Trios challenge, AAA taping tonight, lineups

CMLL (TUE) 07/27 Arena Mexico [CMLL, @cmllmagazine]
1) Robin & Trueno b Disturbio & Semental
2) La Seductora, Princesa Sujei, Seuxis b Dalys la Caribeña, Lluvia, Marcela
3) Euforia, Raziel, Shigeo Okumura b Diamante, Pegasso, Rey Cometa
4) Hijo del Fantasma, Sagrado, Strong Man DQ Histeria, Jushin Lyger, Olímpico
5) Héctor Garza, Terrible, Texano b La Máscara, La Sombra, Máscara Dorada

Rudos winning the main events sets up a title match for next week.

Lyger fouled Fantasma for a DQ in the semimain.

Okumura replaced Virus.

Cesar has a really great post about How To Buy Tickets At Arena Mexico (and not from the ticket scalpers.) There’s pictures and trips and such, but it appears the important lesson is “go buy it from a music store that has a Ticketmaster hookup in advance, or at least realize there are ten different windows and you don’t have to stand in line for the most visible one.” It does seem like CMLL could use someone(s) standing outside the ticket windows, navigating people to shorter lines so they’re not as tempted to go to resellers.

AAA sent out a bunch of press releases to sites yesterday. The one which seemed to grab the most attention was AAA promising a surprise to help fight back against Legion & Los Perros at tonight’s taping in Toluca. The implication is it’ll be someone jumping sides or debuting in AAA, though my best guess is it’s simply Mesias returning to TV to set up the trios match for Verano de Escandalo.

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AAA will be covering the taping on their Facebook account, and I’ll have a results post sometime tonight or tomorrow.

Remember the odd Traumas vs Negro Navarro & Paranoiko match, where Paranoiko walked off for reasons which were not particularly explained? Video has turned up that clues us in on an expected explanation. Keep scrolling down in that thread for a great, and similar, incident with the Traumas and the Gemelos. The Dinastia Navarro have a reputation for being, uh, demanding.

In other gossip from the Expo, but without the fun video evidence (so far), the WON reports AAA and Perro Aguayo Jr. are on shaky terms after Perro Jr. “showed up in bad condition and was slurring his words when he did the mic work during the [show ending] angle.” To defend Perro Aguayo Jr., I’ve felt the same way after sitting thru a complete AAA taping. I get commercial breaks, Perro might have indulged in adult beverages or something to cope.

Also, X-Fly challenged Vampiro to a fight.

That sentence needed to stand alone. Halloween & Damian are in AAA no matter whatever else happens, but everything else with the Perros is iffy.

The WON also the actual reasons AAA moved Verano de Escandalo from Monterrey was due to increased protection fees from drug cartels in the area. Every entertainment group has to pay up or risk being messed with (which makes one wonder about that shooting outside Arena Coliseo Monterrey a while back), and there’s not the same level of issues elsewhere.

In news from Dorian Roldan tweets: Rain’s contract with AAA ended over the weekend, and Kenzo Suzuki is only temporarily in AJPW and will be back in AAA.

Mascara Magica will protest his hair loss to the Guadalajara commission, angry they restarted the match when he cheated, but not with the tecnicos did. Metal Blanco says all that matters is they got the win.

The organizers of the Lucha Libre Expo says they’ll be back next year. Attendance was 6,547 for Friday (blamed on rain and “other factors”), 9,365 for Saturday, and 9,486 for Sunday for a total of 25,398.

Fuego en el Ring has the bio stats for Bestia 666, Damian 666’s son who debuted on the last Perros taping.

Super Crazy tells SuperLuchas that he was eventually paid what he as owed from EAW.

R de Rudo has video of Arkangel’s training session from the Expo.

Quitos on Box Y Lucha’s foro has an interview with Puebla’s Asturiano.

Black Silver Jr. & Hijo de Black Silver won the Acapulco Tag Team Championship this past weekend. has a story on Morelia luchador Orion. The only local wrestler this site seems to cover is Guerrero Universal, though usually without full lineups or context, and Orion is one of his students who’ve been wrestling in Arena Jalisco.

100% Lucha is running shows today and Sunday, where admission is free with donated canned food. Came close to doing a 100% Lucha recap this week, but probably will be doing the recent CMLL off Fox instead.

Pierko el Boricua was spotted wearing his mask again in Arena Aficion.

Cronicas Y Leyendas looks back at Gigante Baba in Arena Mexico.

Dr. Alfonso Morales is actually a psychiatrist. The more you know…

DJ Spectro looks back at Pavillion Azteca and some thoughts about the merchandise stands.

Kcidis previews the first half of the Universal tournament.

Juvi singing. I’ve told you all you need to know, you’re either in or you’re out.


LIMEX (SAT) 07/31 Teatro al Aire Libre Carlos Colrado
1) Aguila & Tristar vs Angel Guardian & Legendario Extremo
2) Aguila Tapada & Impostor Macabro vs Mr. Zebra & Super Pinocho
3) La Parkita & Mascarita vs Calaquita & Espectrito de Ultratumba
4) Super Muñeco, Super Pinocho, Super Raton vs Canek Jr., Coco Amarillo Jr., Coco Blanco

Memorial show for Popitekus.

indy (SUN) 08/01 Arena Azteca Budokan
1) Rey Neza & Skyderman vs Golden Bull & Quinto Elemento
2) Genesis & Mini Oriental vs Dr. Jenkins & Mini Apache
3) La Chola, Rossy Moreno, Tiffany vs Flor Metalica, La Italiana, Vanelly
4) Cocolores, Gran Alebrije, Ultraman vs Histeria II, Monsther, Skándalo
5) Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Huracan Ramriez, Oriental vs Charly Manson, Mr. Águila, Olímpico

Hyped as first unmasked match for Oriental (though we know he already wrestled unmasked in Texas.) First in his home building, I guess. Mostly an Invader show, which makes Skandalo working the semimain interesting.

CMLL (MON) 08/02 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger & Stigma vs Sauron & Siki Osama
2) Dalys la Caribeña, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, Seuxis, Yeska
3) Fuego, Metro, Stuka Jr. vs Euforia, Pólvora, Virus
4) Blue Panther, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Místico, Rotoporky, Shocker vs Charly Manson, Héctor Garza, Psicosis

More Mistico/Psicosis in the main event.

I now believe they brought back the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Titles and then did nothing with them as an elaborate way of being annoying. Got to respect the long game. That tercera might be setting up a title match for the next Fan Appreciation show, but it’s more likely to be for the Mex Trios titles.

Is Silueta starting as a DF regular after losing her mask? That’s a new one.

Stigma, getting matches in back to back weeks, was interviewed in Luchas 2000. He’s yet another member of the Robles/Paniaco/Mar family, though who exactly he’s related to isn’t said. The interview makes it sound as if he’s a Puebla regular rather than a DF CMLL guy; he’s been training with Police Man and Toro Bill Sr.

CMLL (TUE) 08/03 Arena Mexico
1) Horus & Trueno vs Cholo & Zayco
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Metálico, Molotov vs Durango Kid, Puma King, Tiger Kid
3) Diamante, Fabián el Gitano, Rush vs Cancerbero, Euforia, Raziel
4) Hijo del Fantasma, Máximo, Sagrado vs Charly Manson, Histeria, Universo 2000
5) La Máscara, La Sombra, Máscara Dorada vs Héctor Garza, Terrible, Texano Jr. [CMLL TRIOS]

Fan Appreciation show, which is why they’re doing a title match. It’s not a good time to be doing it, with a title tournament going along.

No word on how a trios title change would affect the Universal tournament, which probably means we don’t have to worry about a title change. CMLL would have 15 champions – La Mascara (scheduled for the 08/06 block)  & Sombra (could win this week’s block) would be out of titles, Terrible would have one. Or maybe my old theory about the Tuesday, Friday and Sunday shows being booked individually by people who have absolutely no idea what’s going on the other shows is actually slightly accurate.

Kinda hoping they were done with Universo. Guess not. Also returning is Guerrero Maya (actually, on Sunday); he’s been MIA for most of July.

CMLL (TUE) 08/03 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Meteoro & Nocturno vs In Memoriam & Nube Roja
2) Silueta vs Princesa Maya
3) Hierro & Leo vs Exterminador & Máscara Mágica
4) Delta & Valiente vs Shigeo Okumura & Yoshihashi
5) Místico, Rotoporky, Shocker vs Jushin Liger, Mephisto, Negro Casas

The people who last lost apuesta matches here – Silutera, Exterminador, Mascara Magica – all make their first appearance since on this show. None of the people who beat them are on the show.

IWL (FRI) 08/13 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Histeria II & Psicosis II vs Hijo del Cien Caras & Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
2) Ryan Taylor vs the PWG Champion from England
3) Chuck Palumbo vs Charly Manson

One EAW falls, another rises in it’s place. Lineup from here. There’s no PWG champion from England, unless we lost Davey Richards and Washington State in a war I slept thru. Their tag team champions are Paul London and Generico, and either of those doing a British gimmick in Mexico might be hilarious, but I don’t think that is what’s happening here. Maybe it’s Pac? I forget if he was on the poster that turned up earlier for this group.

I can not emphasize this enough: people on this show should ask for as much of your money as possible up front, and make sure you can get your own lodging/flight home if need be. Rule of thumb is if someone’s flying in one guy from the US, then they possibly could have a clue (no guarantee), but if they’re doing more than that, expect disaster. I’ve never heard anyone said a bad word about Chuck Palumbo, but I think they could put Chico Che in the same spot and draw just about the same amount (and the same TV rating), and they’re not paying Chuck Palumbo what they’d pay Chico Che. Even more true with the undercard.

Hereos del Ring roster, latest version

They released a roster to 1up yesterday. There are slightly different rosters for the 360/PS3 version and the Wii(/PSP?/DS?) version. They’re a rare double fail.

Just 3 weeks ago, the official Facebook site for the game posted a roster, which is quite different from the roster linked above. There are 17 guys listed last time who are out of the game – the likes of Alex, Nicho, Teddy, Gladiador. Sorry, Crazy Boy, you’ll have to make yourself in the game. Their Facebook page has since deleted those roster pages (1, 2) from its site, but Google still has a cache of those pages (1, 2). My guess is the people who run the facebook are some PR team that copied a list off wikipedia, and maybe didn’t do the best job of checking to see if the list was actually right. Those pages are dated 07/10, so they probably pulled it a few weeks ago, decided to pretend they never existed, and so it’s just become evident now. Also, people really should stop trying to delete things on the internet, there’s always a copy floating around somewhere.

The other problem is the list of guys who are the PSP/360 version and not the Wii version. Assuming there’s reasoning to have different rosters (maybe they thought the Wii version would sell better with female wrestlers, though that doesn’t explain why Sexi Star wasn’t included), I’d figure the guys to get removed would be the ones who aren’t actually with AAA any more or aren’t on TV. Cut Charly, Psicosis, Gronda and maybe Alan Stone and they’d have the room.

They went a different route, cutting Silver King, Extreme Tiger, Jack Evans, and the guy on the cover of the video game, Dr. Wagner Jr. That is unfathomable, so much so that either that Wii roster is just wrong, or there’s some sort of DLC coming to add those guys very early on. That they left Doctor Wagner Junior out of the AAA video game on purpose with no plans to add him is impossible to believe.

(I’m still pre-ordering the game, when we’re a week or two away and they’re not moving it again, but I’m glad I’m getting the PS3 version.)

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CMLL Guadalajara on Teleformula #4 (07/24/2010)

taped Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, 06/29/2010

the horror!

Four episodes in, and I’ve already lost my enthusiasm for this show. To be fair, the luchadors did first.

In a world where five of the six CMLL weekly events shows airs somewhere, covering 61% of the matches, you’re going to get repeats, you’re going to get matches which just aren’t as good as other ones, and you’re going to get non essential stuff. Guadalajara seems to hit all three; the top guys tend to take it easy; even if they didn’t, there was a match featuring three of these same four guys on another channel at the same time, and it was much better.

If you’re going to air lucha libre from Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, make it be of Guadalajara. TVC Deportes does a good job with Puebla, pretty much always including the locals match because it’s what make Puebla different than Puebla. I understand why you have to air Mistico if you have a match with them, but the most interesting thing on this show was how Gallo worked with the CMLL guys (pretty good, they made him look like he was on their level), and maybe the second most interesting thing was the video of the tercera (Neutron! Palacio Negro!) airing behind the announcers during their standup. If the semimains are going to be CMLL midcarders who don’t make enough of a different to main event, you ought to be airing the undercard matches of guys who might not be as complete but are working a lot harder.

07/31-08/01 Lucha Times


AAA-US: Lots of pairs matches, Wagner/Parka vs Chessman/Park, 187 vs Hernandez/Zorro, plus Damian/Halloween return to face Jack/Rocky, and Alex/Christian vs Aero/Fabi for the mixed tag titles. Last TV match for the time being for Chessman, and the last match for Rocky – his turn on the next taping was cut from the Mexician airing.

The big news here is the show airs 2 hours earlier (unless you’re on the West Coast feed), which makes life a little easier for people who are also recording 52MX and Teleformula at the same time.

52MX: Minis match (Saturno’s annual appearance), plus Manson/Alebrije/Olimpico vs Panther/Dorada/Sagrado

CMLL-LATV: next episode in line is Double Dorada – the mini with Astral/Dragon vs Nitro/Violencia/Warrior, and the bigger one with Stuka & Metro vs Poder Mexica. Odds a new episode airs: 10%

CMLL-TF: Angels/Stuka vs Cancerbero/Okumura/Ysho, plus Maximo/Sagrado vs Garza/Texano. Never really understood how often Maximow as in Guadalajara until I started watching this show.


CMLL: hopefully just the Universal tournament and Mistico/Psicosis, though they squeezed another match in last year.

AAA-MEX: Expo taping, already. CiberClowns vs Legion, Electro/UG vs Wagner/Tiger, minis, people in no condition to perform on the microphones

CMLL-FOX: Tuareg vs Stuka/Fuego/Rush, where the feud set up is NOT for the Arena Coliseo Tag Team championship. Makes no sense to me. Also, Mistico/Shocker/Strong Man vs Averno/Mephisto/Lyger

Doesn’t look like there’s a Sunday replay this week.

C3: The Tuesday results I forgot to post today, including a set up for a trios title match next week.

Puebla: is this airing? I haven’t seen anything about it since it should’ve come back on. Main is Invaders vs Mistico/Mascara/Panther

Perros: see above, except I have no guess.

ACM: Next taping would be Aventurero/Hator/Estrella with title and hair on the line. No idea what’ll air.


CMLL-TFN: I think $tew said he did voice overs for Infierno en el Ring; this would be the week for that, and maybe Super Sky Team vs Atlantis/Niebla/UG

AAA on Televisa #948 (07/24/2010)

Auditorio Benito Juarez, Zapopan, Jalisco, 06/20/2010

she meant to do this, right?

Chikayo Nagashima, Fabi Apache, Meiko Satomura vs Christina Von Eerie, Jennifer Blake, Sexy Star: hey, these Japanese girls actually want to have a match this time! Too bad they’re in one built around throwing drinks at Mari Apache. This was still more fun than it should’ve been, though maybe they could’ve shown a replay of the finish so we could’ve got the spot they built around.

Alan Stone & Chris Stone vs Cuervo & Ozz: Worked better than last week, though they probably could’ve done this breakup without facing group every week. I liked the idea of angry/gullible Chris Stone being distracted by Hijo de Tirantes lies, that was a nice touch.

Heavy Metal, Octagón, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Electroshock, Silver King, Último Gladiador: I don’t understand why Electroshock & Metal were feuding before this match, but I understand why they might be after this match. Chris Stone and Heavy Metal both seem to be doing losing streak storylines at the same time, though at least they’re going different ways with it. It felt like they did what they usually do, but over a much shorter time, so I was okay with it.

Extreme Tiger, Joe Lider, Nicho el Millionario vs Alex Koslov, Chessman, Super Crazy: I am liking matches with 187 and Tiger. AAA must’ve broken me. I’m not sure about debuting the Perros in a semimain, but the match worked pretty well.

Cibernético, Dr. Wagner Jr., La Parka Jr. vs Hernandez, LA Park, Zorro: This was just okay, and then had the brawl that had fifteen things going on with it to make it hard to follow (including Tirantes/Apache, which seems totally unnecessary unless Tirantes is wrestler or Apache is becoming a referee.) The three way title match setup is more apparent in retrospect, though I still don’t understand why Vampiro didn’t attack Silver King.

Konnan sometimes does that nerd thing where they’re so excited to share their knowledge on something, they blurt it out even though no one besides them actually cares at that moment. It’s so weird to think of Konnan as a nerd.

Stuka & Metal Blanco keep their masks, LLUSA

CMLL (TUE) 07/27 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring, SuperLuchas]
1) Relampago b Cerveruz
2) Ángel del Mal & Infierno b Angelo & Astaroth
3) Neutrón & Palacio Negro b Malefico & Mr. Trueno
4) Máximo, Rotoporky, Shocker DQ Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Bucanero
5) Metal Blanco & Stuka Jr. b Exterminador & Máscara Mágica [hair]

Rudos won the first, and were going to win the second when they got themselves DQed for pulling off the tecnicos match. In the third, Stuka was eliminated, then Exterminador, so it came back to the Magica/Metal feud it started with. Magica gave Metal a neckbreaker and pinned him and got the win.

Except the commission rep noticed Magica’s feet were on the ropes and ordered a restart. This time, they had a ref bump and Magica fouling Metal Blanco. Stuka jumped back in the ring, dropped Magica, did his splash, and put Metal Blanco back on top. Tecnicos won. Rudos walked off, but came back and got their hair cut off.

Maximo faked a foul from Atlantis in the semimain.

PWInsider says Lucha Libre USA episode #2 got a 0.09 rating. That’s half the number as last week, and half the average for the network. Bad sign.

Dos de Tres acknowledged the Verano de Escandalo lineup from last week.

Latin Lover says there’s on going litigation over his name, but he can use it while it goes on. He’s also recently moved to San Antonio.

Sangre Azteca is back in Mexico. Terrible and Texano say their are no challengers for their Occidente Tag Team titles, and they would be willing to face Hector Garza & Mr. Aguila in a battle of rudos for the World Tag Team titles.

Ovaciones has a page long feature on Blue Demon Jr.

R de Rudo has photos and video of Shelly Martinez and Annie Social from the Lucha Libre Expo.

Estrellas del Ring has photos from the 200th episode of Tercera Caida and an interview with Cuernavaca luchador Randy Balderas

The show in Chicago which had advertised Santo (where he ended up working in Dallas), ended up with a main event of Pantera, Hijo de Cien Caras, Hijo de Solitario losing in two falls to Rayo de Jalisco, Blue Demon, and Super Porky.

Cesar runs thru the possibilities for the CMLL Anniversary main event.

Ohtani’s Jacket has more reviews of some random matches.

Segunda Caida reviews even more Black Terry.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.


CMLL PG (SAT) 08/07 Campo de Beisbol Veterans Feild
1) Rossy Moreno & Tiffany vs La Diabólica & Medussa
2) Corazón de Barrio, Rey Lanzer, Rossu vs Estrella Universal, Hator, Hombre Sin Miedo
3) Angel Blanco Jr., Histeria, Mr. Águila vs El Alebrije, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Intocable
4) La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Shocker vs Jushin Lyger, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi
5) La Sombra, Místico, Volador Jr. vs Atlantis, Averno, Héctor Garza

The usual monthly show from this group, but on the other side of the border, in Laredo, Texas. Hope there’s no problems with that. Super Sky Team together is a bit odd.

Earlier in the week, there’s a tag team tournament with CMLL wrestlers in Leon. Mistico & Mascara Dorada is the way to go. Odd they’re running in Leon on a Wednesday.