TripleMania XXV lineup (08/26, Mexico City) – Wagner/Psycho, Mesias/Pagano

AAA TV (SAT) 08/26/2017 Arena Ciudad de México, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
TripleMania XXV
1) ? vs ?? [Llave a la Gloria]
Finals of the tournament. Number of participants, format, and the actual participants TBA.
2) Big Mami, Dinastía, Estrella Divina, Máscara de Bronce vs Hernandez, La Hiedra, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown
3) Sexy Star vs ? [Reina De Reinas]
winner decided in Aguascalientes. First TV defense, 2nd overall.
4) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs Aerostar & Drago and Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Gfw 1 & Gfw 2 [AAA TAG]
3rd defense
5) La Parka vs LashleyMoosePsicosis IIIntocableScorpió Jr.Pimpinela EscarlataLanzeloth9101112131415161718182021222324252627282930 [Copa TripleMania]
will include people who are not in AAA but maybe have worked in the past. Pirata Morgan, Sangre Chicana, Blue Demon Jr., Villanos mentioned as possibly being in the match, and AAA luchadors not otherwise booked may be in as well. Lanzeloth earned his spot from the Golden Opportunity match.
6) Johnny Mundo © vs Texano Jr.Hijo del Fantasma [TLC, AAA HEAVY, AAA CRUISER, AAA LA]
third defense for Cruiserweight/Heavyweight, fifth defense for Latin American title.
7) Pagano vs El Mesías [street fight]
8) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. [mask]
members of their families (Brazo de Plata mentioned, Maximo & La Mascara teased) may appear at this match

Vampiro, Dorian Roldan and a Roshfrans rep went thru all the matches, on a stream aired on Facebook Live. I was not able to watch the whole thing and there were a few techinical issues with the stream, but I think we got pretty much all of it.

Pagano & Mesias was treated as the biggest match they were announcing today. They closed the press conference by trying to get in a fight with security (and, occasionally, Vampiro) getting in between them. Vampiro talked of the extreme matches he had with Mesias elsewhere. This is clearly going to be the same sort of weapons and stunts spectacle match.

Maybe that’s the bigger theme here: the top 4 matches are all spectacle matches. They’re each a different kind of spectacle. They might be good matches, but the focus is more on being remarkable happenings.

Texano Jr. and Hijo del Fantasma appeared to talk about the triple title TLC match. Unlike Pagano/Mesias, these two tag partners turned enemies were not emotional. Hijo del Fantasma even spoke of wanting to be friends with Texano again after this, though that seemed unlikely. Vampiro confirmed Johnny Mundo had not actually relinquished the title, and blamed it on fans and media misunderstanding what was happening (and not the participants doing a poor job of doing the story in a way that the audience could follow.)

Aside 1: Vampiro’s Facebook explanation for taking the Reina title away from Taya was that Taya had won it by referee stoppage after an illegal choke, they were taking titles seriously now, and they really had to change hands by pinfall or submission. Vampiro has now made a match where the men’s titles will change hands not via pinfall and not via submission. This is reason #14 why Vampiro shouldn’t have made that Facebook post, it just keeps looking dumber.

Aside 2: the TLC stip allows for all sorts of weird finishes, especially when AAA want to be known as exciting creative storytellers. There are three belts, maybe they begin splitting them back up by having someone grab two but not one of the others. Maybe Kevin Kross, conspicuously missing from the lineup, completes his betrayal of Mundo by grabbing the belts himself. Maybe Mascara de Bronce gets the briefcase back, cashes it in during the match, and gets the belts himself. Maybe it’s just a normal finish.

Aside 3: I think Taya being caught off guard by AAA taking the Reina de Reinas title from her and giving it to Sexy Star was very real. I think Mundo & Taya’s anger over the situation is real. And I also think Taya & Mundo reached a decision that the best revenge would not to be to quit the company early, but to make sure AAA paid Mundo every dollar that was owed to him and satisfy themselves with clowning Vampiro on social media in the meantime. AAA has shown they’re not going to stop working with Mundo whatever he & Taya say about Vampiro; they’re untouchable as long as they keep on Vampiro. They’re also smart enough to be using this for attention and sympathy, but the storyline there is seems more to build them up for other promotions than one with AAA. AAA’s not deviating from their original plan, and it doesn’t seem like it was a big question from the media.

The Copa TripleMania was said to be a “ruleta rusa”, which is usually a multiman match or tournament when the winner escapes and the loser has to keep going until the last person loses their hair or mask. It’s 30 people, so I think it’s really just a royal rumble this time. AAA kind of announced this back in May when Lanzeloth won a shot for a dream battle royal at TripleMania. It was explained here as a match celebrating the different eras of AAA for the 25th Anniversary. (They should’ve made advertised it as a 25 person match!) The AAA website lineup lists only La Parka, Scorpio Jr., Intocable and Psicosis (II) in the match. However, they seemed say Lashley and Moose would be participating at the press conference, and Dorian threw out Blue Demon, Villanos, Pirata Morgan and Sangre Chicana names as possible. Chicana appeared on AAA TV this week in a cameo that seemed to foreshadow him being part of this, and Pirata is a semiregular on TV.

Psicosis being there was actually the biggest surprise of the night. The luchador also known Ripper left AAA in 2009, and was part of a group of wrestlers (Kraneo/Alebrije and Morphosis/Histeria most notable) who fought AAA for the rights to their names in court. There was no dispute that AAA created the characters, but they argued they had given value to them by carrying them for many years and should be able to keep them. They joined CMLL in 2010 as Los Invasors, but eventually changes to their current names because CMLL decided they no longer wanted to be part of any lawsuit. It appeared these guys never won the rights to names, but could still get away with using them off TV and out of CMLL. Showing up in this press conference means quitting CMLL, but I don’t think it necessarily means Psicosis will be appearing in AAA full time – like Scorpio and Intocable, it may just an AAA special appearance or two and headed to the indies. Histeria/Morphosis has barely been used in CMLL the last few years and I’d suspect he’ll be in this match if AAA is interested. I’m doubtful Kraneo will do the same.

Aside 4: Psicosis and Sexy Star returning to AAA shows that AAA is willing to make a deal with anyone, no matter what happened before, if they like the deal. I don’t think Fenix or Pentagon or Daga or Garza want to go back to AAA right now or any time soon, but there will be an offer if they ever change their minds. Never say never because never is a very long time.

Despite probably being in the middle of a Best of 5 Series, the Aerostar/Drago/Raptor vs Poder del Norte feud won’t appear here, with Aerostar & Drago challenging (and unlikely to win) for another team title. The Poder del Norte and OGT have been large focuses of TV time the last three months and they’re maybe in the battle royal but didn’t even get announced for it.

Dorian talked around not having a specific GFW tag team to announce for the tag title match. Eddie Edwards & Davey Richards had been announced as appearing at TripleMania months ago and they may have been planned to be the team, but Davey Richards had said he wasn’t staying with GFW just this week. (Richards & Edwards had also broken up and been feuding, but that’s probably a lesser concern here.) They’ll probably find someone else to team with Edwards.

AAA has a 2v2 women’s tag match on their poster for Aguascalientes, but the two women most likely to get that title shot – Faby Apache & Ayako Hamada – are not booked in it. AAA could easily acknowledge who’s in the #1 contenders match, which might be an added reason for people to come to show to Aguascalientes. This year has shown AAA will obstinately continue to promote the lineup they’ve acknowledged is false, and it’s probably not a smart idea for to be spending this many words on this lineup too.

Aside 5: Big Mami & La Hiedra being announced as in the Relevos AAA is an oversight, since I’d assume they’re still going to be in the contender’s match and we’re supposed to believe they have a shot at winning it.

I’m still not quite sure what’s going on with the La Llave a la Gloria contest, but they did announce dates for things. The final tryout is Saturday in Celaya. They will select the finalists in Arena Naucalpan in August (probably the 12, but Record has it as the 15?). The finalsts will appear on TripleMania. Not sure if the means two teams of finalists facing off or some AAA wrestlers being added to an opening match.

Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner did not appear at the press conference, with the idea that they’d appear at a future press conference and this was more about the rest of the card. They did mention Super Porky and perhaps other members of both families in the corners of both men. That’s a tease of Maximo & La Mascara, though Maximo’s already said he’s taken a booking elsewhere. One of the reasons to bring Sexy Star back would seem to be these sort of media events, but she did not appear either.

This show will probably air live at least in Mexico, but AAA was not ready to say when or how. It certainly appears Leo Riano’s claim that Televisa would be broadcasting the show is at least on the table, since that’s the only non-PPV option. There’d be a certain strangeness about Televisa airing the show. AAA never can refer to the Arena Ciudad de Mexico building by name on TV because the building is owned by rival Azteca, so Televisa broadcasting a show from there would be unusual.

AAA does not list a start time, which might be an oversight or it might be up in the air because of the television situation. The ticket website lists an 8pm start and that’s what MedioTiempo reported. It’s possible that’s just when the doors open and it’s 9pm.

AAA claimed they’ve sold 60-65% of the arena. At the last press conference, they were claiming to have sold 80% of the arena. Those numbers seemed like pressure sales tactics and probably still are, but I can’t imagine this being any less than 90% full when it happens

The lineup is – ok? There’s a lot of caveats and a lot of adjusting for what AAA is now as opposed to a few years ago, but it’s a good effort considering what they have. Psycho/Wagner will probably be worth the price of admission, with the high emotion overcoming a likely predictable worked match. Pagano/Mesias will probably be a gory death match but they’ll both go so far over the top that it’ll be memorable. Ladder matches in AAA (and most of lucha libre) don’t usually hold together all that well, but Mundo’s got experience in some very good ones and he could make it work.

The front half of the card isn’t as promising but it’s not death. The Copa TripleMania will probably be jaw dropping bad at points if the likes of immobile 2017 Scorpio Jr. are already being included, but there will at least be the novelty of seeing who else will show up – if they’re giving away Ripper at the press conference, there’s probably at least one more random name being kept secret. The tag title match is actually kind of disappointing: I’d have much rather seen the tecnicos against Poder del Norte, it’s a match that shown to have a higher ceiling and neither Cuervo/Ozz or Murder/Monster have been that interesting with a lot of TV matches this year. I wasn’t sure Dinastia was making this card so I’m glad to endure another Relevos AAA for his 60 seconds of ring time. And the Llave match might steal the night depending on who makes it thru and what limitations they have.

I’m really happy they’re not wasting time with an Alberto match. Moose and Lashley in a battle royal seems a waste of bringing them in, but I’d rather see them wasted then them being wedged into a different program they don’t fit in. (More AAA’s fault for not setting anything up prior.) There’s also no NOAH guys announced, but perhaps they’ll side into the Copa TripleMania too. There’s a lot of OK stuff here but there’s nothing truly terrible, and that’s an improvement. You take what you can get from AAA this year.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-07-10 (yes, from two weeks ago)

bad times for Titan

Recapped: 07/11/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla


Cancerbero, El Malayo, Raziel beat Arkalis, Asturiano, París
(17:20 [7:39, 5:17, 4:24], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ares, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado beat Blue Panther Jr., Lestat, The Panther  
(17:47 [8:41, 4:37, 4:29], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dalys © beat Marcela to retain the CMLL World Women’s Championship (9:49, 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Dalys double wristlock cradle (4:00)

  2. Marcela tapatia (2:29)

  3. Dalys boot counter (3:20)

Cavernario, Euforia, Felino beat Dragón Lee, Titán, Valiente  
(16:06 [4:29, 7:52, 3:45], 2/3, ok via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Niebla Roja beat Último Guerrero
(9:35 [5:12, 4:23], 1/2, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Niebla Roja huracanrana (5:12)

  2. Niebla Roja small package (4:23)

Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. beat  Carístico, Kráneo, Ripper in a relevos increíbles match
(9:01 [1:21, 1:54, 5:46], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 


Rush snuck in a foul on Caristico to win the main event. Niebla Roja surprised UG to win in straight falls. It seemed like Marcela was meant to kick out on the third fall finish and didn’t in time. Misterioso added The Panther’s mask to his collection.


don’t trust Blue Panther Jr. to catch you 

Uploading GIFs to this web site is a pain – it’s one of the reasons it’s down half the time – and writing about boring shows is not fun. I’ve stayed on my usual schedule despite not posting anything but Claro & LU for a couple weeks, I just haven’t bothered to finish writing about them and putting them up. I’m doing more out of guilt of not getting the MOTYC list, but it’s not like those shows are actually adding to those lists.

This was another uneventful show for match quality. Niebla Roja & Ultimo Guerrero was a one sided match set with Niebla Roja just getting a couple of surprise pins. Dalys & Marcela came off as though the third fall ended prematurely. Nothing else really got going.

It’s nice to see Volador back as a rudo – where he belongs!! – but it’s also messed up considering what match CMLL is trying to promote. The early matches had the usual pacing issues. Arkalis & Asturiano do just enough to convince you that they’re probably having good matches far away from here.

TripleMania press conference today (w/Rey?), Rush/Caristico in Puebla

this seems rude

CMLL (MON) 07/24/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, CultIcon]
1) Guerrero Espacial & Perverso b Arkalis & París LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24  DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Pierrothito b Shockercito [lightningLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24  DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
The intended person won but the finish seemed screwed up by a Tirantes count. Pierroth gets a title match next week.
3) La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely b La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24  DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24  DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas b Dragón Lee, Mistico, Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24  DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6) Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. b Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24  DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
After saying on Wednesday that he had no interest in being in Los Ingobernables, Volador wore an Ingobernable Rush jersey for the match. Rush unmasked Caristico setting up a singles match next week.

Main event was short and not good but the promos to build up next week sound like they went well. It sounds like the fourth match was the best of the bunch.

Today’s CMLL show has nothing important coming into it, but a couple interesting matches. Virus gets a singles match with Rey Cometa seems like the best match on the show. The main event has Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero and Terrible against Angel de Oro, Marco Corleone and Volador Jr., who will probably be right back to normal today. Dragon Lee teams up with Guerrero Maya & Johnny Idol against Dragon Rojo, Polvora & Vangellys. Misterioso goes for another mask, teaming with Polvora and Disturbio against the Panther Brothers & Stigma. The second match is an Arkangel match. The opener has newbies Fiero & Sangre Imperial against Yago & Apocalipsis.

Guadalajara has the more interesting show: the #NGD face Hijos del Infernals for the national trios titles, with the young Dinamitas trying to win a second championship in a week. It’s unlikely they’ll repeat their Arena Coliseo Tag Team chance but it’s a good chance for them. The main event has Diamante Azul, Mistico & Rush against Euforia, Hechicero and Kraneo.

Someone named “El Consejo” replaced Astral on Sunday and Fuego on Saturday in the lineups. Maybe it’s just a place filler. Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre is just boring and uninspired enough to name someone “El Consejo” while genuinely believing that’s a solid name. It’s a terrible name, but CMLL is only naming someone after their promotion if he’s going to be a big deal. CMLL trademarked the name in 2012, probably in response to AAA using that as a name for a faction.

While I was searching around on trademarks, I noticed CMLL’s also filed for design trademarks on a lot of mask designs. CMLL filed trademark for about 25 mask designs back in May. The list on the tradmark site is Volador, Valiente, Ultimo Guerrero, Titan, Sanson, The Panther (or maybe all three?), Rush, Ripper, Polvora, Pierroth, Niebla Roja, Mr. Niebla, Mephisto, Mascara Dorada, la Sombra, Kraneo, Monito, Forastero, Sagrado, Dragon Rojo (in his half Diamante Negro mask), Dragon Lee, Cuatrero, Caristico, Atlantis and Angel de Oro. There’s also a couple cartoons of Rush in there. I don’t know what rights that gives them, or if they’ll be acting on them; they haven’t been officially granted anything yet. They also trademarked Torneo Natalia Vazquez a few days before announcing it.

I also noticed AAA was officially awarded some of the Penta Zero M trademarks but the Penta 0M ones and Fenix ones are still undecided, and they’ve asked for Raptor and Lucha Libre Victoria World Cup – which means that concept is still alive even if AAA’s not mentioned it this year. Maybe they’ll do it later today.

TripleMania press conference this afternoon

AAA will have a press conference today in Mexico City at 3:30pm CT to talk about TripleMania. AAA usually streams their press conferences, so keep an eye on their Facebook. AAA also is usually late, so don’t be surprised if it’s starting more around 4pm or later. The promo says it’ll be “big surprises” for TripleMania. They’d previously said they’d be announcing the full card for TripleMania, but perhaps that’s changed.

I suspect it’s an afternoon press conference simply because people were  flying in this morning. Rey Mysterio checked in around noon, and he’s probably not in Mexico City without being involved in this. Mysterio’s been pretty solidly with The Crash up to this poing, but he’s Rey Mysterio and can work for both places if he wants to – they’ll both be happy to have him. Rey’s on track to work a lot more in 2017 than he did in 2016, working smaller Crash shows and related shows in addition to wrestling elsewhere. I don’t know how this plays in his future decisions, but it would put Rey on the same show as GFW wrestlers.

I also believe Alberto is still in Mexico and one of the big surprises will be him appearing on TripleMania. Promociones Juniors also announced Heroes Inmortales will be on 10/01 in San Luis Potosi, so perhaps the TripleMania match will set up a second match in Alberto’s hometown. I’m not sure AAA needs Alberto, they drew a full house there last week with a normal house show lineup, but it fits.

(AAA scheduling geek side note: a 10/01 date is earlier than usual and means only the Irapuato taping will air before Heroes Inmortales actually happens. Don’t expect a lot for matches on that show. Also, there was no October SLP stop in the schedule AAA handed out at the start of the year, but they were clear about the last third of the year changing as it got closer.)

This will be the first time AAA will be in front of the press since everything that’s happened with Taya, Sexy Star and Johnny Mundo. By this point, they’ve turned it into a storyline and anything they say will probably be furthering that. (Vampiro was on Zona Ruda last night, so I suspect it came up there as well – but no one writes much about Zona Ruda and it’s not put up on YouTube until mid week.) My guess is Mundo is working the scheduled match against Hijo del Fantasma & Texano.

Most of the card is a mystery; there’s stuff AAA has announced in passing, and there’s stuff they’ve pointed towards, but nothing’s been really been treated like an important deal beyond Wagner/Psycho. They’ll be betting on Alberto being a big positive deal if he’s appearing, but I don’t think anything else they matter is going to mean a whole lot to move tickets. It’s really the mask match and the idea of TripleMania that have been selling tickets so far. The rest of the card is interesting in the hopes of getting some good matches (too rare on AAA shows this year) and to see where AAA has everyone positioned (are feuds like Bengala/Suicide or Hiedra/Shani making the show in a meaningful way? is there a reason Angelico is back?) but AAA’s going to live or die with that main event. I guess this is the last real chance of AAA getting out of the mask match by putting someone else it, but I’m not sure they can escape it and I can’t seem them actually doing it.

Other Things

Mucha Lucha Atlanta has Caristico & Rush on their 10/08 show.

Sanson & Cuatrero say it was an honor to beat Negro Navarro & Black Terry for the Arena Coliseo Tag Team championship.

The Winter Palace Podcast interviews Sam Adonis.

LuchaWorld has an interview with Guerrero Maya Jr. and this week’s Poster-Mania.

Segunda Caida watches some Blue Panther/Sam Adonis trios.

SuperLuchas writes about Puma de Oro, who passed away recently.

El Concerto interviews Gallego.

Red Dragon took Barbaro III’s hair in Puebla.


CMLL (MON) 07/31/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray vs Ares, Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis
2) La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
3) Shockercito © vs Pierrothito [CMLL MINI]
first defense
4) Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Stigma vs El Malayo, Puma, Tiger
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Negro Casas
6) Carístico vs Rush

Arena Puebla has gone with a July full of big shows and this is one more with Caristico & Rush in a main event. The title match should be good. Malayo working a fourth match is rare; part of it has to be because the 2nd or 3rd matches are not the men’s division, but it might be more than that since he’s across from Stigma.

new lucha videos for the weekend of July 8th, 2017

Guadalajara took their feed offline Saturday night so no lucha there. AYM did air the IWRG Sunday show, but the feed died during the opener. I’ll put it up if pops up during the week.

07/21 CMLL Claro: mega

07/22 CMLL Azteca:  mega  – US TV skipped over Vangellys/Pierroth (both the hair match and the build up trios match the week before)

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-07-22
taped 2017-07-19 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Climax Jr. & Shaolin vs Lunatik Xtreme & Warrior Jr.
2) Aramis, Gallo Frances, Hijo del Alebrije vs Kempo Jr., Monaguillo, Pantera del Japon
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Dragón Yuki, Ovett, Relámpago, Taylor Wolf
4) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Cerebro Negro, Eterno, Hijo del Pantera

Caristico beats Black Warrior (again), Puebla preview, Canelo/Cholo signed

IWRG (SUN) 07/23/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
IWRG Prison Fatal 2017
1) Demonio Infernal b Lunatik Xtreme
super libre rematch challenges folllowed
2) Dragón Yuki & Warrior Jr. b Kaving & Tackle
Kaving, in his return from fracturing his femur, replaced Maquina Infernal.
3) Bombero Infernal b Eterno
Bombero used the ropes to win.
4) Argos, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo b Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Gallo Frances
Argos & Gallo Frances were added to the match. Gallo Frances betrayed Dinamic Black after problems.
5) Hijo del Pantera b Emperador Azteca
Pantera wants a title shot.
6) Villano III Jr., Villano V Jr., Zorro b Imposible, Internacional Pantera, Sharly Rockstar
Zorro suffered a knee injury but his team still won.
7) Black Warrior L CarísticoTrauma IIMr. Electro [Prisión Fatal, hair, mask]
Escape order: Black Warrior, Mr. Electro, then Black Warrior came back in, Trauma II escaped, adn Caristico escaped leaving Black Warrior bald.

The Puebla show tonight as a lot of mid sequence feuds. The difference than usual is that volume: usually it’s lucky if CMLL has one and it’s easy to tell what match they’re setting up. They’ve got three on this show, and I’m not sure which (if any) are headed to the blowoff match next week.

Shocker & Pierrothito meet in a lightning match, which might set up a Shockercito minis title defense. Los Hijo del Infernales face Angel de Oro, Stigma and Stuka in a rematch from last week’s draw and could set up a trios title match. Caristico, Diamatne Azul, Euforia face Pierroth, Rush and Volador in the main event is also supposed to be a rematch, but Rush didn’t show up last week. The Volador/Caristico feud they did could be a match they were building up, or it could’ve been just something to do with no Rush.

Dragon Lee, Mistico and Titan face the Peste Negra in the semimain which might be the best match. Sugehit & Zeuxis meet once again in the women’s trios with Vaquerita, Sanely, Seductora and Tiffany scheduled. (CMLL previously said Tiffany missed the Copa Natalia Vazquez due to injury, Tiffany was posting photos from back home in Monterrey on Twitter, I have no idea.) Arkalis & Paris open it up against Guerrero Especial & Perverso. The show airs on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 9pm.

Gallo & Principe are the new Jalisco (indie) tag team champions, defeating Rayman & Makabre in Arena Jalisco. Gallo picked up half of tag team titles just after he was stripped of the CMLL/Occidente version of those same titles, which is probably not a total coincidence. It was also a backdrop to Makabre & Rayman, who’d been leading a rudo faction there for the last year or so, breaking up and Rayman going back tecnico.

In a long interview with 24 Horas (pointed out by R de Rudo), Shocker says he’s been trying stand up comedy as a post wrestling career. He’s not retiring from wrestling (thought he’s current MIA again.) Shocker got the name from the movie of the same name, and tells the story of his military service: he enlisted, says he got bored, and decided to go live with his parents in Guadalajara in 1990 without actually leaving the military. About six years later, when he had a layover in Los Angeles flying back from Japan, the military grabbed him. He thought he’d be in jail about nine months but it reads like they let him go after less than one. He says it cost him a WWE opportunity, which probably was Super Astros.

Monito, Blue Panther Jr. & Espanto Jr. visited a Best Buy.

CMLL (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Retro & Sonic vs Akuma & Templario
2) Angelito, Fantasy, Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
3) Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Hijo del Signo, Nitro, Virus
4) Rey Cometa vs Sagrado [lightning]
5) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Soberano Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
6) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

Angelito’s booked so I assume he’s alive.

CMLL (SUN) 07/30/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca, Robin, Sonic vs Artillero, Espanto Jr., Espíritu Negro
2) Astral, Oro Jr., Pegasso vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
3) Marcela, Silueta, Skadi vs Amapola, La Comandante, Metálica
4) Cholo vs Canelo Casas [hair]
5) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Felino, Ripper
6) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Kráneo, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

It’s really happening. It takes some people months, years to get to the hair match, but CMLL was making sure this one had to happen. And it surely had to happen.

CMLL (SUN) 07/30/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Amperage vs Paymon
2) El Patriarca & Micro vs Carlo Roggi & Destructor
3) Fantástico & Tigre Blanco vs Linterna & Relámpago Azul
4) Cirujano, Flash II, Magnum vs Difunto, Gran Kenut, Pitbull I
5) Frezzer, Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte vs Espectrúm, Joker, Sádico

Rudos versus rudo main event; the two sides had been feuding earlier.

The Crash (SAT) 08/05/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) ? vs ??
2) Jonathan & Keyra vs Chik Tormenta & Último Maldito
3) Rey Horuz vs FlamitaArkángel DivinoBlack Boy
4) Willie Mack, Xtreme Tiger, Zorro vs Black Taurus (Indie), Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Rey Escorpión (Indie)
5) Daga, Jack Evans, Oraculo vs Bestia 666, Black Danger, Garza Jr.
6) Penta Zero M vs La Máscara [super libre]

I’m a few days late on this one. The Crash in Tijuana shows continue every third week, though this one is noticble with less foreign names than usual; just Oraculo and Willie Mack really. Oraculo & Black Danger get moved up to the semimain to continue their feud. Konnan’s suggested another cage match might be coming up, and everyone in the top two matches would fit.

MDA Lucha Memes (SUN) 08/06/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Keira vs La MagnificaSúper Estrella
2) Arez, Belial, Impulso vs Alas de Acero, Esfinge, Iron Kid (Estado de México) and Aero Boy, Demasiado, Rey Apocalipsis
3) Black Terry & Negro Navarro vs Hijo de LA Park & Magnum
4) Caifan & Hechicero (CMLL) vs Cavernario & Satánico
5) Cuatrero & Sansón vs Laredo Kid & Rey Cometa
6) Dr. Cerebro vs Virus
neither man is allowed to use the ropes
7) LA Park vs Rush

Full show for the combo show card here. Tickets are really cheap considering the lineup. MDA/Memes shows are firmly in the “I dunno” territory of us ever seeing it, but the fifth match is really interesting if the tecnicos are into it. Rey Apocalipsis must’ve impressed the most of the recent Puebla guys (or he was the one available?) Keira couldn’t go to CMLL because every high end indie needs her for their women’s match. Or that’s why she doesn’t need to go.

Canelo Casas/Cholo hair match?, NGD new Coliseo champs, Mundo still champ

new champs/photo by CMLL/Alexis Salazar

CMLL (SAT) 07/22/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial b El Coyote & Templario
Magia Blanca replaced Sensei. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Flyer, Fuego, Pegasso b Apocalipsis, Canelo Casas, Grako
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Johnny Idol, Soberano Jr., Titán b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Felino b Stuka Jr. [lightning]
5) Cuatrero & Sansón b Black Terry & Negro Navarro [Arena Coliseo TAG]
Cuatrero & Sanson win the titles, taking falls 1/3. Terry & Navarro fall on the 4th defense
6) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente b Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

Terry & Navarro as champs was neat while it lasted. Those two teams didn’t mesh well in their previous meeting and it sounds like this wasn’t much better, but it should set up for better things. And, while it’s not going to happen, I’d be thrilled if CMLL used this as the real tag team titles and defended them frequently if they’re never going to do anything with Shocker and Casas.

CMLL (SUN) 07/23/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Stukita b Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Astral, Oro Jr., Stigma b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Nitro
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Cholo, Espanto Jr., Inquisidor b Artillero, Canelo Casas, Espíritu Negro
Team Cholo took 1/3, Cholo using the ropes to beat Canelo. Canelo wants a hair/hair match.
4) Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas

Of all the feuds going on, CMLL is most on top of the Cholo/Canelo Casas feud. Nothing else oging on here.

Record has an interview with Sexy Star, which AAA put up as photo. Half of it is posted on Record’s site. She’s going with the idea that she never actually lost her mask in a match so it’s OK for her to put it back time. The only women in AAA she considers a rival is Faby Apache. (If you’re Hiedra, Shani, Big Mami and Goya Kong, you’re probably going to be in the same role until the next falling out.) She’s still planning to box, though she doesn’t mention when this time, just that she figures she can take a month or a month in a half off from wresting when it’s time to prepare for boxing.

Record also has an interview with Mascara de Bronce, who really wants that match with Johnny Mundo (even though he doesn’t have that briefcase yet.)

This week’s AAA show up. It’s a show. The real news is the tease of a Mundo/Kross split finally made screen this week. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I could see Bronce beating Mundo for the titles, Mundo blaming Kross and then Kross destroying Mundo right out of AAA as his write off – or at least, that was probably the plan back when they filmed this all in Nuevo Laredo. I strongly wish AAA didn’t put numbers on those briefcases: when the title shot briefcase has a 1 on it one week, a 4 on the next week, and a 3 on the following week, I feel like I’m wasting my time watching a dumb show.

Toro Road says they’re canceling the entire tryout now that Vampiro and Lucha Underground have pulled out, and insists they never took any money for the tryout. I hope that’s correct. This thing is just going to disappear right back into the ether from where it came.

This week’s La Parka column says there will be many surprises on TripleMania. This is very accurate because we know about 3 matches of a maybe 9 match card and I have no idea how they fit everything in or make sense of half of it. The press conference is Tuesday at the Polanco La Chilanguita restaurant. (time not said.)

Johnny Mundo made familiar anti-Vampiro comments on promos and at WrestleCircus (didn’t see) to try and get something out of the attention he’s getting for the AAA issue. It’s working better than the Cage/Adonis attempt at least. Without addressing the subject directly, AAA’s Twitter account said there had been no changes in the AAA championships this week – as far as AAA is concerned, Johnny Mundo is still triple champion. Maybe that changes Tuesday, but this is a time to pay attention to actions and not words if you’re trying to figure out what’s going on.

Zeuxis is announced as appearing in REINA on 10/25. They also say the CMLL World Women’s Championship will be defended. CMLL’s Facebook mention assures the reader it’ll be Dalys if she’s still champion at that time, but the poster interestingly doesn’t include a photo of Dalys.

Sometimes The Crash wrestler Mr. 450 is now going by The Mecha Wolf. He told contralona he changed names to get away from bad things from earlier his career associated with the Mr. 450 name and start new. (He seemed responsible for some of those bad things.)

Roshfrans posted an interview with La Llave A La Gloria participant Hijo del Vikingo. He is very good, and mentions he’s the Puebla indie luchador King Vikingo.

Octagon says Promociones Ring Side, which ran a show on June 24 in Mexicali, hasn’t paid him or many other wrestlers on that show.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Mundo shows up in Tijuana to win and give up belts, Sugehit wins Copa Natalia Vazquez, Adonis/Panther official

Princesa Sugehit wins

CMLL (FRI) 07/21/2017 Arena México [Claro, CMLL, CultIconNotimexOvacionesthecubsfan]
1) Puma & Tiger b Blue Panther Jr. & The Panther LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:19. 1/3.
Panther & Adonis earlier agreed to a hair match on 08/04. Brawl on the outside led to the draw (though it probably should’ve been a countout). They fought again after the match.
3) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone DQ Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos IncreíblesLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:00. 2/3. Rush fouled Caristico.
4) Princesa Sugehit b MarcelaDalysEstrellitaAmapolaSiluetaZeuxisLa VaqueritaLa ComandanteSanelyMetálicaSkadiLa SeductoraLady Maravilla [Copa Natalia Vazquez] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
34:34 (plus a 6 minute battle royal to pick sides.) CMLL debut for Lady Maravilla. Order of elimination: Skadi (Comandante), Metalica (Vaquerita), Seductora (Lady Maravilla), Comandante (Dalys), Vaquerita (Sanely), Maravilla (Silueta), Sanely (Marcela), Silueta (Estrelita), double pin with Marcela & Estrellita, Amapola (Sugehit), Dalys (Zeuxis), Zeuxis (Sugehit). Sugehit is the first ever winner of this competition.
5) Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:16. 2/3. Gran Guerrero fouled and unmasked Niebla Roja after the two had feuded all match.

Matches were all good. If you’re into the CMLL women, you’ll like the cibernetico but it’s a really long watch if you don’t care as much.  After I wrote yesterday’s post, I realized picking Zeuxis to win the cibernetico was quite dumb. It’s the Copa Natalia Vazquez, a tournament celebrating the designated first ever Mexican luchadora, a Mexican luchadora kinda had to win it. This still seems headed in the direction of Zeuxis/Sugehit, but they didn’t do anything to push it closer.

Same thing really with Gran Guerrero & Niebla Roja, which didn’t really advance. And Caristico/Rush appears to be a thing based on them being matched up next week. I don’t think CMLL can or wants to do that match straight up, but SovietShooter’s suggestion of a Relevos Suicidas with those two feuds as the teams makes a bit of sense. (It also might led to Niebla Roja getting rejected for winning, but I think they’re on that path anyway.)

Dragon Lee keeps mentioning he’s shooting scenes for a documentary. Maybe something coming on NJPW World?

AAA EMW (FRI) 07/21/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Maquiavélico, Pánico, Psycho b ?, Fantasik, Tahúr Jr.
maybe 2 v 3?
2) Drago b Mamba ©Estrella Divina [EMW MIDDLE]
Mamba falls in first defense. Drago is second champion.
3) Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown b Argenis, El Hijo del Medico Asesino, La Parka
Medico betrayed his partners.
4) Sexy Star © b Faby ApacheLady Shani [Reina De Reinas]
first defense for Sexy. Originally first defense for Taya, but new champ Sexy replaced her two days out. Shani beat Faby, then Sexy Star beat Shani on a fast count. Thunder Rosa showed up to challenge Sexy Star post match.
5) Mil Muertes b Pagano [EMW HEAVY]
Mil won the new championship with a flat liner.
6) Johnny Mundo © b Hijo del FantasmaTexano Jr. [AAA HEAVY]
Second defense. Texano & Fantasma worked together early, but betrayed each other and Mundo retained with a foul on Texano. Post match, Mundo threw the titles down at Vampiro’s feet. Vampiro praised Taya & Mundo but told Mundo he was disrespecting the belts and lucha libre by throwing the titles down, and shoved them back into Mundo’s hands. Mundo repeated his Twitter comments, threw the belts down again, and said he’d come to Aguascalientes if they paid him what he was owed. Vampiro picked up the belts and started to leave while Mundo was talking, and Mundo threw the mic at him. Vampiro came back to tease a fight, and Mundo walked out.

Whatever the situation was before, the situation now appears that Mundo and AAA are still working together. Mundo showed up here, AAA had him win, and they threw out the possibility of him showing up for Aguascalientes TV taping on Thursday. The live reports seemed to not exactly match up with what Mundo said – you can watch the bit here sideways – and I don’t think anyone’s completely clear if Mundo is meant to still be the AAA champion or not at this point. Guess we’ll find out Tuesday.

It is clear that, however bad they’re making it out to seem on social media, it’s not as a bad relationship in real life. (Thunder Rosa showing up is another clue; she seems to be close friend of Taya & Mundo and so would be unlikely to be showing up here to lose to Sexy Star next month if the schism between AAA & the non-AAA LU wrestlers was that big.) They made the emotions feel real in that segment, and Vampiro babyfacing him to the crowd as the defender of Mexican wrestling was amusingly real, but the segment doesn’t even if they’re really that mad at each other. My guess is Mundo works thru whenever his end date – which seemed all along to be TripleMania or the vacation show after – and maybe Mascara de Bronce winning the title from Mundo is pushed even more as Vampiro getting his revenge to wrap things up.

I’m highly skeptical an angle like this is going to move the needle much for AAA’s super casual audience. I don’t think it’s putting together any matches English speaking fans are really going to want to see, but I’m sure we’re in for another month of this.


Vampiro announced he will not be participating on the 08/20 Toro Road tryout, where people were going to be chosen to get chances to appear on LU, AAA and WWC. Vampiro explained he would be too busy with the final week of prep for TripleMania. TripleMania is six days later, but was announced as the date before this tryout was announced – perhaps Vampiro just found out AAA is going to want him in Mexico at that time, or maybe something else was going on. Toro Road’s website is still up at the moment, but their Twitter and Facebook have been deleted. They had promoted the tryout hard around April, disappeared for a while, popped back up again at the end of June tweeting like mad and setting a deadline of 07/31 to sign up. This was a $200 fee, and I hope people get that money back but this seems like a situation where that’s not going to happen. About two weeks ago, Vamp tweeted at them to get in touch – maybe he knew then he couldn’t make that date and was seeing if it could get changed, or maybe there were other reasons.

(I would strongly advise against taking this as meaning anything for Lucha Underground Season 4 – it always felt like LU had nothing to do with it, but were oddly not shutting ti down.)

Tonight’s CMLL show has Negro Navarro & Black Terry defending the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Championships against Sanson & Cuatrero. I’d be surprised if the titles stay with the maestros; I think the only way it happens is if CMLL believes NGD have already surpassed these titles. Negro Navarro refers to he and Terry has a lot of respect from “el publico de internet”, which is hilarious and true and sad because the only el public de internet is seeing this match is if Black Terry Jr. goes with his father to the show. Every CMLL title match should be filmed and offered in full in one fashion or another and it’s amazing this is something that isn’t being done in 2017.

It’s otherwise a quiet weekend for shows. Gimnasio Hercules has a benefit show today. Sunday’s big show is IWRG’s Prison Fatal, where Trauma II & Caristico will risk their masks but actually Mr. Electro or Black Warrior will lose their hair. CMLL’s shows in Arena Mexico and Arena Coliseo Guadalajara don’t have much notable.

Stardom announced Mary Apache’s daughter Natsumi will be training with them to debut in the spring. Mary and her children have moved to Japan for the time being, which is why she’s disappeared from AAA. It’s surprising Natsumi is training; just about a year ago, Mary mentioned (in an interview translated by Micromanfever) her children had no interest in wrestling and Natsumi (then 13) would fall asleep at wrestling matches. Mary Apache starts with the promotion this weekend.

Microman translates the latest Podcast Boom with Konnan, which you can see here.

Lucha Underground has a PJ Black promo for his match with Rey Mysterio.

ROH announced Mistico, Jushin Liger & Delirious vs Dalton Castle & the Boys for their 08/18 show in London.

Los Nómadas (Violento Jack, Miedo Extremo & Ciclope) are hosting a tequila and tacos party in Japan today.


IWRG FILL (WED) 07/26/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Fireman & Puma King vs Guerrero 2000 & Matrix Jr.
2) Celestial Boy & Fly Star vs Power Bull & Tentáculo
3) Blue Monsther, Picudo Jr., Vórtize vs Acero, Atomic Star, Lunatik Xtreme
4) Ángel Oriental, Kanon, Shadow Boy vs Kempo Jr., Monaguillo, Skanda
5) Gallo Frances, Hijo del Alebrije, Mike vs Marduk, Taylor Wolf, Warrior Jr.
6) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Dinamic Black, Emperador Azteca, Eterno vs Centvrión, Fly Star, Fly Warrior, Fulgor I, Fulgor II, Glenn Calavera, Látigo, Séptimo Dragón [Copa Higher Power]
IWRG (Black Terry) vs Indy Nation (Arez)

Really hoping that main event turns up because the Indy Nation guys are likely to go nuts for a big match in Naucalpan. I think +Lucha said Latigo was out of Indy Nation but it appears he’s still fufilling his booking.

CMLL (FRI) 07/28/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Puma, Raziel, Tiger
3) Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis
6) Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

Lots of good matches on this card, with Niebla Roja versus the Guerreros continuing. Rush & Pierroth have finally found a partner more hated then them.

CMLL on 2017-07-21 

just out here waving a flag and got jumped by an old man

Recapped: 07/21/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico


Puma & Tiger beat Blue Panther Jr. & The Panther
(12:19 [3:59, 2:23, 5:57], 1/3, good)

Blue Panther went to a draw against Sam Adonis in a lightning match
(10:00, time limit draw, good)

Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone  beat  Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match
(11:00 [2:12, 3:10, 5:38], 2/3 DQ, good)

Princesa Sugehit, won the first ever Copa Natalia Vazquez (34:21, good)

  1. La Comandante splash Skadi (11:42)
  2. La Vaquerita double underhook piledriver Metalica (15:10)
  3. Lady Maravilla northern lights suplex La Seductora (19:01) 
  4. Dalys senton La Comandante (22:49)
  5. Sanely bridging headscissors La Vaquerita (24:02)
  6. Silueta valagueza Lady Maravilla (26:57)
  7. Marcela Michinoku Driver Sanely (28:26)
  8. Estrellita bridging cradle Silueta (30:00)
  9. double pin Marcela (31:13)
  10. double pin Estrellita (31:13)
  11. Princes Sugehit spinning headscissors armbar Amapola (32:31)
  12. Zeuxis inside bridge cradle Dallys (34:26)
  13. Princesa Sugehit satellite armbar Zeuxis (35:34)

Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr.  beat  Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

(9:16 [2:14, 1:33, 5:29], 2/3 DQ, good)

What happened: 

cool Sanely submission

Sam Adonis and Blue Panther agreed to a hair versus hair match on August 4th. They signed contracts to start the show, then brawled to a time limit draw later on.

Princesa Sugehit won the first ever Copa Natalia Vazquez, defeating rival Zeuxis last. No challenges were made post match.

Gran Guerrero unmasked Niebla Roja in the main event after the two had strongly feuded all match. No challenges were made post match (though GG did do the mask challenge in the interview area afterwards.)

Rush fouled and unmasked Carístico in the main event after the two had lightly feuded all match. No challenges were made post match.


Volador & Dragon Lee

A good overall show even if nothing turned out to be must see. Even with only one match officially announced, there was a fair bit of teasing or building to other matches and it reduced the endings of these matches. Two foul finishes and one time limit draw the show.

The main event seemed to be limited by the rest of the show as much as itself. The crowd was worn down after the cibernetico, took a while to get back up for this, and the long rudo segment didn’t seem to help (though they did react for the triple submission to the end the third fall.) It got hotter at the close, but the story of the Niebla Roja programs continue to be that Gran Guerrero is looking like the much more interesting prospect He’s more confident and more impressive in his performances. Volador and Dragon Lee did well in their third fall runs and Euforia did a great job of carrying on after a Dragon Lee slip in a way to make it seem natural.

The women’s cibernetico was a technically good match without a lot of error and some good spots. It also was extremely long and didn’t have really have the great moments you’d hope for given that time. The length wore on the crowd. You could hear a few people turning on the match about half way thru, and the reaction to the finish was a lot smaller than it expecting given the build up and the Zeuxis/Sugehit feud. I complain about battle royals a lot, but putting those women out there for several more minutes only deeped the problem. Individually, I think Maravilla did well (as expected) in her debut. Sanely had a good night and a cool submission. A lot of people were just fine and they probably needed a more standout performance at the end to make this memorable.

Puma ramp running powerbomb

The tercera better than the usual Ingobernables trios match. They were working harder, and Kraneo’s always a great edition for this match. Diamante Azul easily picking up Kraneo was looks impressive. The crowd was fired from the Panther/Adonis pull apart and it carried over well into this. Carístico seemed to be filling it. Rush, like always, didn’t do much but got the crowd enough. This went better than it’d looks on paper.

I was about to write this lightning match off as another clubbering match that was fine being just that because of the reactions they were getting, and then Blue Panther surprised Adonis with a tope to the back and things got crazy. Sam Adonis tried pulling out a Art Barr frog splash and the brawling was a little weird. The referee playing obvious rudo was a bit out for this, but they were effective for where they wanted to go. They sold people on this hair match.

I’m kind of split on the opener. There’s was good action here, but there’s also a crowd who mostly isn’t to it at all, and there’s more sloppiness than normal between these two teams. It’s stuff that would be chalked up to nerves, if there was something to be nervous about a CMLL opening match. The third fall moment with Puma and Panther repeatedly getting confused on what spot they were doing really didn’t look good when they finally had the crowd going a bit. It was exciting when they got rolling and Puma’s ramp running sunset flip powerbomb worked well, but I might be overrating it.

Zeuxis double smash

AAA & Johnny Mundo status, CMLL setting up end of summer plans?

tonight (in old promo photos)

CMLL (TUE) 07/18/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Exterminador & Guerrero de la Muerte b Mágico & Micro
rudos took 2/3
2) Cancerbero, Difunto, Raziel b Astral, Explosivo, Star Jr.
Rudos took 1/3
3) Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón and Felino, Puma, Tiger
billed as a rare three way trios match (though, in reality, it appears to be the Panthers beating the Felinos and a second match with NGD beating the Panthers.) The NGD were given a trios title shot for their win.
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. b Pierroth, Ripper, Rush
tecnicos took 2/3.

That three way is how CMLL does three way matches and how almost no one else does three way matches.

Today’s a seemingly normal Friday that may turn out to big day for lucha libre news

What’ll happen with AAA’s Triple Championship?

AAA spot shows are rarely mentioned because here. Results are hard to come by, nothing really important happens, and the matches are usually said not to be good, with the luchadors saving themselves for TV shows. Today’s EMW show actually looks worse than usual, because even though the matches look better than usual, the promotion is also creating champions with no purpose. The pattern is, if you’re suddenly adding a lot of titles, you probably haven’t spent much time trying to figure out what works and are going to have problems in others ideas.

However, EMW going all in on title matches on this show meant they happened to have Johnny Mundo working his only AAA spot show of the year to defend the triple championship. It’s an incredible fortunate break for AAA, who might be able to get themselves out of the mess they got themselves into. Or, it could be a sign of something has been worked out. I don’t know what exactly will happen tonight, but it does sound like Johnny Mundo and AAA are working something out.

Afterbuzz TV talked to both Johnny and Taya at San Diego Comic Con. You should watch the whole thing for context, and to see how excited they both still are for Lucha Underground – even while being upset about the AAA situation, this week’s LU show convinced them they still wanted to be part of that. The interviewer did ask the important question:

Interviewer: So, are you guys done, is this done? Are you 110% done with AAA?

Mundo: Never say never in wrestling.

Taya: He still has three of their championship belts!

Mundo: I still have the AAA titles, we still have business to take care of. We’re working things out, with several different companies, and, um, we’re dealing with a firestorm with the comments that have been flying back and forth on Twitter because of the situation, so I don’t know what’s going to happen, but –

Taya: -but we’re just taking it as it goes, and, honestly, I’m blown away by how many people are supporting us, supporting me, have been sending messages and their regards and how they’ve been supportive of the whole thing. And honestly, it’s awesome. I’m so proud how I’ve had so many fans reach out to me both in Mexico and the States.

What I’ve found when discussing this situation with other people is other people have different definitions for the words “work” and “shoot” than I know them to me. So, let’s change the discussion slightly: are they still willing to do business with AAA? Johnny definitely appear to be willing to do business with AAA. Maybe only not to damage his relationships with other promotions (LU, GFW?), and maybe he’s only doing it if AAA does certain things to for him, but he’s also willing to play it up as mystery to make it bigger story for everyone if/when he does turn up. My guess is that means AAA risks they can work things out and doesn’t do a house show title change tonight. It’s still a big risk, and it’s not like Johnny’s changed his message on other things:


Mundo: Vampiro is a yes men. Vampiro just says yes to everyone, and he’s got his nose way up Dorian’s turd cutter and it all it does it tell people what they want they want to hear. And ultimately it sucks because he tells us what we want to hear, and he tells someone else what they want to hear, and ultimately he’s just lying to everyone.


It’s interesting the AAA TripleMania press conference got moved from today to Tuesday. My guess was availability issues – if all these guys need to be in Tijuana for a show, it’s tough to have them in Mexico City to hype the next show – but it may simply be AAA wasn’t sure they’d have the card worked out by this afternoon.

CMLL Decides Future Big Matches Tonight?

CMLL has said the Anniversario show is on 09/16. I believe there’s another show on 08/04. There are a lot of possible matches for both those dates, but we do not yet know what goes where. Tonight would be a good day to find out. CMLL needs to set something up for 08/04 on this show, which may reveal the 09/16 matches by elimination.

Today’s CMLL show – on Claro at 8:30, CultIcon has a full preview – includes both the Sam Adonis/Blue Panther feud (in a lightning match) and the Sugehit/Zeuxis feud (in the Copa Natalia Vazquez), and those seem like the focuses for the near term. Niebla Roja vs the Guerreros is in the main event, but that feud has been less focused (wavering back between UG & GG) and less close to an ending. It could still be an Anniversario match, but not one in two weeks. Soberano/Misterioso is still out there, but not on this card, which means it’s also probably not happening in two weeks. That leaves the USA/Mexico feud and the women who’ve been feuding all year.

In the big picture, there’s a spot for one of those matches on 08/04 (probably semimain), and a spot for the other one on 09/16 (likely fourth). CMLL has tended to go with men’s matches on the Anniversary show, but I think the more advantageous positioning has Adonis & Panther on their own show. It’s the feud the crowd reacts to the most, and figures to be more of a draw than Sugehit/Zeuxis. (Women’s apuesta matches don’t have a strong track record of drawing, though they usually aren’t getting strong dates either.) We also know already know Adonis is going to Japan for a while in August, and will be in the Gran Prix match on 09/01. Panther isn’t on the Mexico team, so CMLL won’t be able to match those two up regularly leading to 09/16.

(There’s also a Zeuxis interview today specifically saying she wants Princesa Sugehit at the Anniversary show – but that’s what everyone says.)

My guess on this one is Adonis & Panther agree to a hair match tonight, with a press conference to make it official next Wednesday. And Sugehit & Zeuxis maybe have one more thing – Zeuxis pins Sugehit tonight to set up one more title match? – to get them to 09/16.

Even beyond the intrigue, tonight’s CMLL show looks good. Puma/Tiger vs Panthers is always good. Adonis/Panther should be good. The main event should be really good. The luchadoras are going to want their match to overachieve (and, with only five matches on the show, they’re going to get plenty of time to try.) The relevos increibles will at least produces some GIFs. This should be an entertaining show.

Ovaciones has an interview with Dalys about being in this cibernetico.

Other Stuff

CMLL added a Stuka/Felino lightning match to Saturday for no obvious reason. Maybe someone was short on dates. Not sure they’re getting a big payoff out of a Saturday Coliseo show.

Ring of Honor announced Titan challenging KUSHIDA for the Ring of Honor TV title (if Kushida is still champ) on August 18th in London as part of their UK tour. Titan & KUSHIDA have never had a match against each other, but have been on the same time three times on FantasticaMania shows. They lost all three!

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

This week’s Fuego en el Ring was up.

Mas Por Mas talks to Octagon about his career. And one with Canek. And one with Ciudad Victoria’s Jhonny el Pulpo, which I don’t think is the famous one.


RIOT (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Femenil, Monterrey, Nuevo León
1) Hell Raider vs Black Raider
2) Sayrus vs Low Rider
3) Psicótico vs Muerte Extreme [hardcore]
4) Erick Ortiz vs Black Terry
5) Fly Warrior vs Shane Strickland [POWERBOMB.TV CHAMP, quarterfinal]
6) Arez vs KratozDarlionSammy GuevaraFuego Del Sol

Full card for the show next Saturday. Since there’s a Powerbomb.TV tournament match, I suspect this one will show up on that service quicker.

lucha TV preview for weekend of July 20th

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AAA finishes up Nuevo Laredo with, uh, another Pimpienla singles match, a tag match that’s really a handicap match, and a usual AAA main event.

Lucha Underground finishes up the second round of Cueto Cup, and Rey/PJ is the first non tournament match on the show in about seven weeks. The preview says we’ll learn more about Son of Havoc and Son of Madness; LU showed a vignette with them way back at C2E2, and I think it’s finally airing.

CMLL Claro should be an interesting show, but don’t miss Virus/Cometa on Tuesday.