CMLL & the Crash tonight, CMLL in ROH, Super X results


IWRG FILL (WED) 06/21/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Craken, Matrix Jr., Satán X b Destructor, Dinámico, Dranzer
2) Adrenalina, Skanda, Warrior Jr. b Fly Tiger, Keiser Drago, Voltar
3) Blue Monsther, Celestial Boy, Shadow Boy b Acero, Auzter, Vórtize
4) Hijo del Pantera, Lunatic Xtreme, Toxin b Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon, Leo
Hijo del Alebrije replaced Dragon Fly, Hijo del Pantera replaced Skanda, worked rudo, and snuck in a foul on Alebrije.
5) Ángel Oriental, Aramis, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Dinamic Black, Power Bull b Aeroboy (Estado De México), Alex Pain, Centella Salazar, Danny Barrio, Homonimo, Payachucho, Stone Magic, Último Conde [Copa Higher Power]
Gym FILL (Bombero Infenal) versus Gym Cuatitlan (Robin Maravilla)

Main event looks like about what you expect out of the Copa Higher Power

Super X (THU) 06/22/2017 Big Daddy Latino, Tlalpan, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo]
1) Superxtar b Aeroboy, Eterno
2) Mini Rey Misterio DRAW Mini Juventud Guerrera
double pin
3) Marcela b Sanely
Marcela replaced Lady Apache
4) Huracán Ramírez DQ Hijo De Dos Caras
Dos fouled Huracan
5) Sam Adonis b Súper Crazy
after a match that went all around the night club, Adonis used the ropes to beat Crazy
6) Juventud Guerrera b Dragón Lee
Guerrera won after a mask pull. Dragon Lee asked for a rematch.

I can’t tell who is Mini Juvy from the photos (only they look way too big to be the ex-Mascarita Sagrada.)

After three weeks of a Gran Alternativa, and spotlight title matches on the last three CMLL streams, tonight’s CMLL show is easy to miss. CMLL’s not designed it to be that way, there are storylines going on that they very much would like us to care about, but those feuds are either running in place or not that interesting to start with. There’s a lower chance of good matches than usual.

Maybe one of the three rivalries will move to a next step tonight. One is Niebla Roja versus the Guerreros (as the semimain tonight, with Angel de Oro, Dragon Lee, and Niebla Roja versus Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, and Rey Bucanero.) Another is Pierroth versus Vangellys, who face in a dreadful lightning match. The last is Zeuxis & Princesa Sugehit, who are joined this week by Estrellita, Marcela, Dalys and Amapola. All feel like they have the upside of a secondary apuesta match on the Anniversary show, but there’s three of those and probably only one is going to take place in September. If one or two are happening in July, then it’s time to start making that clear. If they’re not happening until August, or just not actually happening, maybe this show means nothing.

The main event has nothing to do with anything. Diamante Azul makes his latest return, this time teaming with Volador and Marco against Rush, Euforia and Barbaro Cavernario. It’s listed as a relevos increíbles match because CMLL still treats Rush a tecnico despite not being one for years. CMLL also is talking up a Rush/Diamante Azul feud we haven’t seen. Stukita makes a more exciting return in the minis match, with Electrico & Shockercito against Mercurio, Nitro and Violencia. The opener has Arkangel & Disturbio versus Flyer & Robin, with all the advantages to the veteran rudos.

The show will air at 8:30pm on ClaroSports and probably on Facebook. CMLL has also been covertly streaming the broadcast and posting it publicly on their channel within an hour of it airing the last couple weeks. I may not be around to record today (and even if I do, the frequently dying streams may my kill my recording), so probably keep an eye on the official channel if you want to watch it later.

The Crash is also back tonight in Tijuana. The main event is a four way cage match with Daga, Garza, Damian and Nicho, where the loser loses their hair. Everyone, myself included, assumed Nicho was losing his hair when this was announced, as a farewell before getting his leg operation. Nicho’s booked at least thru next weekend, so it may not be as quick a goodbye as thought. Still, only he or Damian should be losing this match.

The semimain has Penta & Fenix against Mascara & M-ximo, which might also be a place for someone new to show up. Jeff Cobb & Keith Lee take on Brian Cage & Willie Mack in a battle of large agile people. Jack Evans & Bestia 666 continue to feud in the tercera trios, and Rey Horus defends his newly won cruiserwieght title against Lion Rush, Matt Sydal and Sami Callian in the second match. Black Danger and Oraculo, who’ve been feuding towards a mask match, open the show.

The Crash’s show is believed to be not streamed anywhere, though you may want to check in on their Facebook later on to be sure. It may show up at some time, in some place, but they’re not saying. Konnan’s said they’d have the video worked out by “next month”, so this would possibly be the final show with this issue. Fancams should turn up as usual.

ROH announced Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero will face Mistico & Atlantis on 08/19 in Liverpool as part of their UK tour. That’s the best match they could do with those four. UG versus Mistico would be the match to run on the show the next day. That’s all fine and good.

ROH’s text piece hyping this is bad. Whoever wrote it believes the Mistico coming to CMLL is Caristico, not the Munoz brother who’s been Mistico for years now. The photo in the piece is Mistico II, but the background information is all about Mistico I’s history with these two guys. Advertising Caristico as Mistico would make CMLL really unhappy, so I don’t think that’s happening here – I think whoever wrote this just doesn’t know CMLL at all. The piece generally reads like it was written based on a history that article that hasn’t been updated since 2010 (they’re not sure if Atlantis & Mistico will be able to be friends), so I’m wondering if it’s just some wikipedia out there that hasn’t been updated. Maybe whoever wrote it just stopped following lucha libre around 2010, which would definitely explain why Rey Bucanero is booked for this tour, he was still great at that point.

ROH actually has a PPV tonight. It’s the one with The Kingdom versus Terrible and Ultimo Guerrero. It’ll probably be better than the CMLL show, though it’ll also cost you about $40. They’ll also probably continue to treat the CMLL guys like WCW treated it’s luchadors during the Nitro era, with the promotions and announcers not bothering to learn or care much about them. That is going to drive me nuts if I watch the show so I’m going to do my best not to do that. It’s probably going to mean nothing to the ROH fans who don’t really know these guys anyway.

Lucha Memes is running Gimnasio Hercules on 07/15
1) Los Traumas vs Freelance & Mike Segura

MDA says they’re bringing Alberto to Monterrey sometime in July. They’re promising more details at their show Sunday.

MedioTiempo has a video feature on Guerrero Maya Jr.’s trip to the Powerbomb.TV show.

The Dr. Wagner Jr. plane paint job took eight people four days to finish.

+Lucha has an interview with Penta 0M.


IWRG (SUN) 07/02/2017 Arena Naucalpan
IWRG Festival de Mascaras, 2017
1) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Hip Hop Man, La Mosca, Pibe Alfajor
2) Orito & Panterita (Freelance) vs Demonio Infernal & Eterno
3) Cerebro Negro & Veneno vs Bombero Infernal & El Hijo del Diablo
4) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro vs Mega, Omega (09), Súper Mega
5) Imposible © vs Súper Nova [IWRG Rey del Ring]
second defense
6) Internacional Pantera, Mr. Electro, Trauma I vs Groon XXX, Guerrero Maya Sr., Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
7) Carístico vs Black Warrior
8) Villano III Jr., Villano IV, Villano V Jr. vs Negro Navarro, Texano Jr., Trauma II
Villano V Jr.’s debut under that name

IWRG’s annual show where everyone can wear their masks for one night and old names are brought back. The main event is a sort of Villanos versus Misionerios match, and Caristico vs Black Warrior is a big feud from almost a decade a go now. It’d normally be impossible for AAA and CMLL wrestlers to be on the same show, but Caristico might be able to get away with it (though a change still seems possible.)

AAA EMW (FRI) 07/21/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Drago vs Mamba, Estrella Divina [EMW MIDDLE]
first defense
2) Argenis, El Hijo del Medico Asesino, La Parka vs Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
3) Faby Apache vs Taya ©, Lady Shani [Reina De Reinas]
first defense
4) Pagano vs Mil Muertes [EMW HEAVY]
new championship
5) Johnny Mundo © vs Hijo del Fantasma, Texano Jr. [AAA HEAVY]
second defense when announced

This is a house show, but AAA’s main titles are being defended so it’s notable. Tijuana is the only place Taya & Mundo are working off TV for AAA. In fact, this is currently the first match Taya’s scheduled to work for AAA since the last show in Tijuana – between the car accident and maybe scheduling issues, Taya & Ayako had a match that AAA themselves thought was awesome and then haven’t been back on TV at all. They’ve failed to take advantage of whatever momentum was there.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-06-19 

Hechicero tricky cradle

Recapped: 06/20/2017


All matches aired live from Arena Puebla

Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja beat Fuerza Chicana & Policeman
(11:22 [5:53, 3:04, 2:25], 2/3, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Estrellita & Sanely beat  Amapola & Dalys
(12:11 [5:28, 3:11, 3:32], 1/3 DQ, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Ares, Arkángel de la Muerte, Rey Apocalipsis beat Black Tiger, Espíritu Maligno, Lestat  
(17:45 [8:35, 3:28, 5:42], 1/3, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys beat Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Titán
(15:45 [5:34, 3:42, 6:29], 1/3, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico beat Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(7:34 [3:24, 4:10], straight falls, via VideosOficialesCMLL, below average)

Hechicero © beat Atlantis for the NWA World Light Heavyweight Championship
(17:52 [4:58, 3:44, 9:10], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, great)

  1. Hechicero conjuro (4:58)

  2. Atlantis double arm cradle (3:44)

  3. Hechicero entanglement submission (9:10)

What happened:

we don’t get this comedy enough

Hechicero beat Atlantis to remain NWA Light Heavyweight Champion

Dragon Lee defeated Negro Casas after the two feuded all match.

Dalys & Amapola were disqualified for excessive violence, setting up a match next week.

Ares & Espíritu Negro show the slightest sign of a feud.


this did not go well

The main worked a great bit in overcoming problems it was creating. Hechicero & Atlantis’ work in first fall was solid, but they were battling thru issues in that third fall and it was remarkable they were able to finish as smooth as they could. Something was off on the side kick spot Hechicero did in the second fall – he covered for it as well as usual, but they went back to it a moment later and nothing looked smooth to finish that fall. Compounding things, Tirantes appeared to pull a muscle in his left leg counting the finishing pin, and was obviously in pain every time to get up and down for counts in the third fall. That third fall was heavily built around doing many third falls, so Tirantes slow movement hampered the speed they could be done, but he was also in too much pain to make a show of himself in the process and the focus remained on the luchadors. Atlantis also bled from the nose for the last few minutes of the match, courtesy of a Hechicero knee to the face on his standing shooting star press. (It’s near that Hechicero can do the shooting star press, but it’s a challenging move to be thrown out as a middle of the third fall random spot and his landings on them have never looked smooth.) Atlantis being able to keep battling at about his normal speed despite taking such a serious blow made the match more impressive, and they did so much that it felt like it was a big deal. Atlantis looks older than ever, but there was enough of him to make this match with Hechicero worked. We’ve now seen Hechicero with Rey Bucanero and Atlantis in this title reign (since the Stuka match never aired), and I hope we get to see with someone a big younger who can move.

Cavernario looked way off in the semimain, struggling to take headscissors from both Carístico and Mistico. It seemed to and derail the match, with the técnicos deciding not to deal with it. Mistico walked off grabbing his neck, having landed badly on the first one. Cavernario would look many times better the next day. Casas/Dragon Lee stuff look good.

SSP knee to the face

The fourth match was a quicker match than usual, good pace, better than Friday but nothing special. Putting the dives pots in earlier changed the feel around usual, and Vangellys getting in the spear gave another peak to the match. Stigma has a springboard kick to the knee that I’m not even sure it was supposed to be to the knee.

Ares more aggressive and central this week, feuding slightly with Espiritu Negro – but so was Arkangel and Lestat was involved too and there’s no direction here unless you also obsessively compare the lineups from week to week. The rudos got some serious static from Tirantes for continuing the beatdown after the match. Tirantes shoved Ares to get him to stop, which might have been needed from a time perspective but I don’t imagine would happen anywhere else.

The excessive violence DQ in the women’s match was not built at all, coming off as random. The rudas were at least looking good at destroying people. The tecnica highlight was Estrellita not remembering how to put on her own finish or didn’t bother because it was going to be broken up anyway.

The opener moved well, had some decent action, was actually OK fine instead of the usual handwave OK.

lucha TV preview for weekend of June 23th

full size

AAA finishes up the Mexico City taping. The minis title match should air this week, but I have a suspicion the La Llave de La Gloria match will air instead. (Hope the missing match makes YouTube either way.)

IWRG is as iffy as ever; I don’t think they’ve aired this Sunday’s taping, and they might instead of the Wednesday show. (The best shot at seeing the Copa Higher Power is +Lucha, as always.)

For people who don’t want to deal with YouTube, this week’s Lucha Azteca should be really good.

The text preview and matches for this week’s Lucha Underground suggests this may be a Crane/Catrina/Muertes/Ivelisse??? focused episode. The police are there too though, and they shouldn’t go so long without addressing their status quo after Delgado’s death.

CMLL Domingos de Familiar: 2017-06-18 

Astral had this coming

Recapped: 06/19/2017


This aired live from Arena México on 06/18/2017.

Akuma & Espanto Jr. beat Astral & Sensei
(10:40 [3:37, 3:10, 3:53], 1/3, ok)

Dalys, Metálica, Zeuxis beat La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit 
(14:05 [4:45, 4:09, 5:11], 2/3, ok)

El Gallito & Microman beat Mije & Perico Zakarías
(17:34, one fall match, below average)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. beat Felino, Hechicero, Pierroth
(18:25 [8:15, 3:06, 7:04], 2/3 DQ, ok)

Marco Corleone © beat Terrible for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship
(15:32 [4:14, 1:01, 10:17], 2/3, good)

  1. Terrible fujiwara armbar (4:14)
  2. Marco Aero Italia (1:01)
  3. Marco Powerbomb (10:17)


Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Shocker
(15:05 [5:07, 3:55, 6:03], 1/3, ok)

What happened: 

required micros stage dive GIF

CMLL aired the Father’s Day Sunday show without advertising it ahead of time. The Father’s Day show was built around seeing the edecanes; the edecanes dance numbers were removed from the show.

Marco Corleone made his first defense of the CMLL heavyweight title, defeating Terrible.

Princesa Sugehit and Zeuxis continued their feud with no obvious change brought on by Sugehit’s newly announced upcoming WWE appearance. This time, Zeuxis was eliminated, but unmasked Sugehit from the outside to set up the win for Dalys. There’s still no post-match microphone challenges; it seems like the mask match is happening, but they’re not close enough to put a date t it yet.

Gallito & Microman remain undefeated over Zacarias & Mije.


Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja still getting their teamwork back up to speed

Yes, I am annoyed they aired this show and not the one with Dragon Lee/Cavernario.

The heavyweight title match was the only thing you should spend any real time on here. We may not take the CMLL titles all that seriously, but the people holding them seem to consider them worth upping their games. Maximo had some of the best singles matches of his career when he was heavyweight champion and Marco and Terrible had a strong match in Marco’s first defense. Marco mixed up his offense a bit for the championship match, and Terrible always seems game if he’s in a singles match with someone who wants to do something. They had a few good near falls that got the crowd believing a title change could happen – the neck scissors submission looked good, the roll thru Aero Italia was a smart spot since it’s often a finish – and the fans reacted well despite Marco’s not being a usual favorite of these crowd. (Putting female favorite Marco against tough guys Terrible on Father’s Day probably should’ve backfired loudly.) Some of the punch spots didn’t go as well as usual and I think they can expand on this, but this was fine for a title match.

The micros seemed to have taken the some unfortunate lessons from their previous success. They went for more spots, more time, and ended up with more things not going well and less of the feeling of an actual match. This match seemed like it proved they’d be best showing up once every few months. The remainder of the show was the usual disposal b-show matches, with the distress of Pierroth feeling he could do Rush’s invisible football spot on his own.

TripleMania date change? Super X tonight


AAA has spent it’s entire year building to Psycho Clown versus Dr. Wagner in a mask versus mask match on August 26th in Arena Ciudad de Mexico. That day might be changing. Last night, the Wrestling Observer Newsletter stated “it appears they’ve already made the call to move it to August 27th.” This would be be because of Mayweather/McGregor fight taking place on August 26, and perhaps with the idea of airing on TV in Mexico. At the same time, Leo Riano’s column in Record says AAA had a plan of airing the show (or at least Wagner/Psycho) live on a Televisa network that day, and would still do against the fight. AAA has said nothing about moving the date, and would be expected to say nothing until they’re ready to make announcement.

It’s not totally clear if Riano is saying this was a done deal, just that’s a possibility, or somewhere in between, and he’s not been a reliable news source. That mask match would probably be highly rated, especially if it came on before the boxing match, but they’d be forfeiting some decent PPV revenue by airing it on TV. (It’s possible Televisa could be paying AAA some money for the rights; it’s been reported in the past that Televisa pays nothing for the weekly AAA TV show.) Airing it over the air in Mexico means AAA might as well air it free on the internet, because pirated feeds would be pretty easy to come by.

I’m skeptical the show will air on Televisa. It does fit AAA’s overall strategy of trying to increase the awareness. Nothing would make AAA seem like a bigger deal than if they were all over today that day. AAA’s also a company that seems be counting it’s pennies carefully and it should be hard for them to give up any revenue. I’m less sure about the date, but that seems like something they’ll want to decide as soon as possible just to make it clear. It’d be a good idea to announce they’re NOT changing if that’s decision too, and it’s noticeable that AAA hasn’t said that either.

Super X runs tonight in Mexico City. Matches include Juventud Guerrera against Dragon Lee, Sam Adonis versus Super Crazy, and Mini Rey Mysterio (the recently ex-AAA Octagoncito) against a debuting Mini Juvnentud Guerrera. It’s a good bet for turning up on the usual fan cam YouTube channels. MedioTiempo has an interview with Juventud Guerrera about his career.

The Lucha Libre World/Todo x el Todo tour starts tonight in Manchester. Hijo del Santo says he’ll defend his WBC title on tonight’s show versus el Bandido. It’ll be his second defense since winning the title in 2007.

CMLL announced NJPW’s Juice Robinson will appear on their 09/01 Gran Prix show. He’ll also be wrestling for Lucha Memes.

CMLL wrestlers (The Panther, Blue Panther, Flyer and Stuka) participated in a panel discussion on blood drives.

EMW says their AAA house show on 07/21 will include a Pagano vs Mil Muertes EMW Heavyweight Championship match. The EMW title was supposed to be on a line on between Psycho & Wagner at the TV taping and I guess they’re assuming everyone knows Mil Muertes is Mesias. They’re also advertising a Taya vs Faby Apache vs Lady Shani Reina de Reinas title match.

KDNA is teasing announcing the lineup for the AAA TV taping on 07/16 in Arena Jose Sulaiman soon. The teaser they posted doesn’t show any foreigners, it’s mostly the usual lineup.

In addition to the normal names, Carlito is advertised for the 08/04 The Crash show in Mexicali.

ChilangaMask will run a show on 09/16 in Camden, New Jersey with Guerrero Maya Jr., Solar, Aeroboy and more.

Belial says he and Impulso said they’re looking for a new partner since Arez is hanging out with IndyNation now.

Hijo de Dr. Wagner picked up an injury, and is off a 06/24 show in Mexicali and 06/30 show in Torreon.

LG promotions (Xalapa) blamed economic conditions for lucha libre shows drawing poorly in Xalapa. They mentioned drawing only 4,000 people in the 6,000 seat Arena Xalapa last December as a sing they’ve started to turn it around.

DJ Spectro says Rey Neptuno passed away.

LuchaWorld has the latest edition of their podcast.

Segunda Caida reviews Virus matches.

LuchaTalk has a new edition of their podcast.

Liger Fever translates an El Dandy story.


MOBIL (SAT) 06/24/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Javier Cruz Jr., Johnny Dinamo, Magnum vs Évola, Gran Kenut, Thunder Boy
2) Ángel Negro, Flash I, Flash II vs León Blanco, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
3) Marcela, Silueta, Súper Estrella vs Chik Tormenta, La Comandante, La Pantera
4) Explosivo, Sky Kid, Smaker vs Exterminador, Furia Roja, Maléfico
5) Motor Machine, Power Diesel, Star Black, Vaquero Jr. vs Joker, Ráfaga, Sádico, Satánico

A show sponsored by a gas station company is a thing that happens when your government starts privatize the gas station industry.

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-06-17 

Jarochita lived

Recapped: 06/21/2017


All matches were taped at Arena Coliseo Guadalajara on 06/13/2017 

La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany beat La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi
(12:26 [5:33, 2:53, 4:00], 2/3, via thecubsfan, below average)

Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(12:07 [5:03, 3:01, 4:03], 1/3, via thecubsfan, ok)

Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(8:57 [3:24, 1:48, 3:45], 2/3, via thecubsfan, good)

What happened:

it stuns me Mistico does this outside of the streaming shows

Nothing really.

Whatever piece of software Televisa Guadalajara uses to block all non-news shows from airing on their internet feed failed and this full show aired for the first time in a long time. The promotion’s Facebook site neglected to post results for this show for about a week, so I decided this would be a good opportunity to get those results and see if they were doing anything noteworthy on this show. Those results turned up before I watched this, but it still felt easier than starting on another 2 hour plus CMLL stream.

This show was announced by the same crew who handle the Fuego en el Ring podcast (which might be a recent change; previous shows were done by the Super Libre radio group.) There’s in fall breaks for the tequila sponsors but not many adds in between the matches. The matches themselves seemed edit down, with time cut out from the beginning of each fall rather than condensing the matches, but they still find time to air the Ecos de Lucha Libre segments CMLL used to be airing on their Mexico City streams.


Jarochita is OK relatively when she’s not reliant on someone catching her

The matches themselves were not that interesting. The main event was the classic version of that match. They did just enough that it just barely crossed the threshold of a good match for me, though it totally felt like a nine minute and there’s plenty of longer/better versions of that sort of match. There’s not as many where the técnicos get cheered and the rudos get booed, and it made me wish we’d get a big match to slip thru under this structure, even with it being edited down.

The other matches were also exactly to form but to lesser results. The second match felt super generic, and their B- match isn’t at the level of the main event. Mephisto and Niebla Roja also had some iffy moments, as the Niebla Roja tecnico experiment is still obviously searching for the right formula.

The women’s match was full of rudas taking bad looking bumps (or being incapable of bumping at all) and the técnicos showing awkward offense, but just generally no good and not something that’d make for good GIFs – up until Skadi didn’t do much to catch Jarochita on a dive. That match was full with luchadoras who wouldn’t be in CMLL if the barrier to wrestling was based on performance, but Skadi still stands out as the least qualified. She’s more dangerous than any first match dive.

Lucha Underground 3×23: Family First

Mascarita & Pindar


Cage beat Vinnie Massaro
(3:29, Drill Claw, ok)

Marty the Moth beat Saltador
(7:25, double underhook inverted powerslam face crusher, OK but interesting)

Pindar beat Máscarita Sagrada
(5:55, Pain Killer, good)

Fenix beat Mariposa
(5:32, Fire Driver, good)


bye Vinnie

Lucha Underground is now halfway through the first round of the Cueto Cup and the format has definitely been established:

  • 4 matches, all from the same group

  • 1 Rey Mysterio/Johnny Mundo video package building to their match

  • heavy focus on a singular storyline (one that was setup before the hiatus)

Last week was Cage’s episode. This week was all about the relationships between Marty, Mariposa, Fenix and Melissa Santos. Fenix and Melissa are flirting with each other. Marty is serial killer levels of obsessed with Melissa; she’s not aware how bad it is. Mariposa relished the idea she might get to have a match with her brother and doesn’t seem to like him, but seems to see him as a tool in whatever long term plan she’s got.

Mariposa’s plan didn’t work here; Fenix beat her in a match that was back and forth but never felt like the former champion was in danger of losing. Marty attacked Fenix afterwards, which the announcers was believed to be about them being next round opponents but was probably more about Marty’s jealousy. Marty himself defeated Saltador, then returned to his lair to reveal an altar of Melissa photos, a piece of Melissa’s hair stashed away, and an extra photo being kept in Marty’s pants.

Mascarita Sagrada diving headscissors

The other two matches were without as much incident. The Rabbit Tribe still believes Máscarita Sagrada to be their god. He doesn’t share their belief, and it didn’t help him much against Pindar of the Snake Tribe (though he got in a lot before losing. Cage also advance by defeating Vinnie Massaro. Vinnie got in a surprising amount of offense before deciding to mess with Cage’s glove and angering him. There seemed to be some definite backslide in that plot line this week: Cage was able to remove the glove (Delgado believed Cage could not last week, though perhaps that was just a bad assumption) and Cage’s post match gloved punches to Vinnie’s head bloodied him, but did not blast his head to pieces. Vinnie was battered as usual, but lives to fight another day. Just not in this cup.


The other pattern in this first round Cup matches is they’re giving everyone at least some time, and giving chances for the obvious first round losers to still get some attention in a loss. Vinnie got nearly 4 minutes, Sagrada got about 8, the other two were in between. There hasn’t been an upset yet, but those out of the tournament are getting to showcase their personalities in the ring in a way that’s going to help when Saltador is back teaming with the Rabbit Tribe or Mariposa is part of a group instead of an individual.

Fenix well timed dropkick

These matches also just felt more successful than last week. The Rabbit Tribe matches are good examples: Mala Suerte showed off his skills, but had trouble connecting it to his persona. Saltador did a whole bunch of weird and strange mat wrestling matches that fit better with a strange guy in checkered outfit. At this level, it’s not about establishing finishers for credibility, it’s about just making the guys more identifiable next time they come on screen.

Vinnie became identifiable as the guy who will totally kill himself in his one squash a season. He got in the snoring elbow, he got in more offense than anyone thought, but – just like in the Pentagon match – he took a few huge bumps to put over his opponent big. Getting dumped all the way to the floor looked devastating. I’d like to see him more often, but I’d also like to see him one piece.

this got violent

Pindar is the best guy on the roster to have a match with Máscarita Sagrada. No one’s going to be a better base for his moves, and do his best to make it look good. This was the best Máscarita Sagrada has looked in a match on this show, even considering the Believer’s Backlash is going to be much more remembered. It’s probably the best he’ll look unless they bring in a mini rudo to work with him.

The Mariposa character is inconsistent – she was introduced as just about the baddest woman in the world, but she’s definitely never been booked that way for long and her acting scared of superkicks played against that even harder. (If it was supposed to be a ploy to distract Fenix, it wasn’t done well enough.) It also pushed to questions of man on woman violence to the forefront of a show trying to background those concerns as much as possible. They may have done all that to make it clear Fenix isn’t a jerk for fighting a woman, but one of the larger premises of the show is everyone’s equal in the Lucha Underground ring and those two thoughts don’t mesh. The action of the match was really good, one of Mariposa’s best matches here, and the story they told around those elements was fine enough, but the context made it less enjoyable.

The Marty stuff would feel over the top if I didn’t just see Lorenzo Lamas’ eyeball on the floor last week. He’s going all in the character – which is almost not even needed, since the crowd seems to be reacting to him that way without having even seen the vignettes. But at least it’s a direction for their second round match, the only one so far that has an obvious issue.

snoring elbow from @snoringelbow

AAA on Televisa: 2017-06-18 

just another day for Mascara de Bronce

Recapped: 06/20/2017

All matches taped at Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal on 05/26/2017.


Aerostar & Drago beat Australian Suicide & Bengala for a AAA World Tag Team championship match
(7:59, Dragon’s Lair on Bengala, via AAA, good)

Máscara de Bronce defeated Venum  Lanzeloth, and Raptor in a four way Oportunidad de Oro elimination match
via AAA, ok)

  • Raptor code red Venum (5:34)

  • Mascara de Bronce 450 splash Lancelot (7:07)

  • Mascara de Bronce code red Raptor (8:30)

El Mesías & Pagano © beat Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
(14:19, Pagano Air Raid Crash Scoria,
via AAA, ok)

What happened:

Destello Azul style plancha

Mesias & Pagano defeated Cuervo & Scoria to win the tag team championship. The match was originally a non-title match, but made a title match by Vampiro (off screen) before it started. Mesias looked disinterested in being there until the titles were on the line, and he and Pagano had no issues while winning the titles.

A new concept, “Opurtunidad de Oro” debuted. The match was a four way elimination match, where the wrestlers would be awarded attaché cases with special contracts in order of their elimination. Venum was out first, and was given a shot at the mixed tag team titles if he can find a partner. Lancelot was out second, receiving a spot on TripleMania in a legends battle royal. The debuting Raptor (Atomic Boy in a dino costume) got a trios title shot with two partners of his choosing. Mascara de Bronce won the match, and received a case containing a contract for a Heavyweight Championship shot whenever he wants.

new tag champs

Aerostar & Drago won a spot in the Verano de Escandalo tag title match by defeating Bengala & Australian Suicide. (The match was said to be with both Pagano/Mesias and Cuervo/Scoria, and no mention of any change to that lineup was made after the main event tag title change.) Suicide acted like a normal tecnico most of the match, but shoved referee Copetes into the ropes late to knock Bengala off the top rope. Suicide wanted to try to win the match himself, missed on his usual finish, and Drago beat Bengala shortly after. Suicide sarcastically offered Bengala a handshake after the match, but Bengala walked out on him.

The show began with Faby Apache and her two non-wrestling sisters Nancy & Jessy. It’s bookended by a Lady Shani’s parentes talking about their daughter, who thanks her father for Father’s Day.

Noti AAA talks about AAA partnering with Mexico City on a health promotion. There will also be a special Panini magazine for TripleMania.

The referees have new “MILANO” shirts. Tirantes’s suspenders would cover up part of the logo, so he’s stuck having them just hang from his pants this show.


Mascara de Bronce tricky armdrag

This show had three matches about at the same level. Nothing bad, though not really came together to be great. I liked them in descending order.

The opening tag match was good as a spot fest. It never developed as more than being one dimensional, and it wasn’t crazy enough to really stand out, but it still felt different and more interesting than most things around here. The crowd was ready to boo Suicide, partly for the same reasons the Mexico City crowd always boos Angelico and maybe partly because they figured out he’s supposed to be the rudo, and maybe the match would’ve felt like it had a story if Suicide worked a rudo for the whole match instead of just one spot near the end. It really made no sense that everyone was fine with him when he attacked them all last time we saw them, and Bengala looks like a dope to continue to team with him, but so it goes in AAA. This had Drago & Aerostar doing neat things and that’s all I ask for.

a Drago dive

The four way was also just kids doing crazy stuff and it worked for being that, coming off as exciting if sloppy indie match dropped on to this show. Mascara de Bronce looked the best and deserved winner, though I wish him missing a dive to the floor meant something a bit longer. Raptor is a more identifiable character than Atomic Boy, but the mask looks too much like a rudo goon for a guy who’s supposed to be a tecnico, and he struggled with moves while trying to figure out his character. It might have helped if had more time in the outfit before this TV Match. AAA did a generally ok job presenting the concept (though it sure looked like the ‘contracts’ were just random printouts), though I was left wondering if the match would’ve been more over if they announced the prizes beforehand: the crowd treated the match like it was not that important and maybe would’ve gotten more into the finish if they knew it was for a title shot.

The tag team title match just didn’t hang together for me, even though the effort was there and they worked closer to a tecnico versus rudo story than the opener. They even bypassed the hardcore spots to just make a move match, something that should appeal to me more but I couldn’t get into for some reason. Cuervo & Scoria still aren’t clicking as characters, and this featured a lot of Pagano trying to impress with what he can do and doing it not well. (He’s also the king of standing around and watching blankly while obviously waiting for his next spot.) The crowd was into this match and into Pagano, so I don’t argue with the decision at all, it just wasn’t for me.

Volador outlasts Cavernario, Cueto Cup continues, Santo in the UK


CMLL (TUE) 06/13/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Magnum & Rielero b Exterminador & Maléfico
2) Cosmos, Eléctrico, Stukita b Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Relámpago Azul
3) La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany b La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany (posted by thecubsfan)
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto (posted by thecubsfan)
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan)

This is not last night’s Guadalajara results. These are last week’s ones, which were only posted last night. And by posted, I mean the only text was mentioning the main event result and I’m guessing the rest of the results via the pictures. Apparently posting results is really hard and you should all be amazed I’m able to do it in the regular as well as I do (which is not well enough.)

CMLL (TUE) 06/20/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Culticon, Ovaciones]
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Universo 2000 LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Magnus, Metatrón, Oro Jr. b Akuma, Canelo Casas, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Cuatrero, Sam Adonis, Sansón b Blue Panther, Drone, Fuego LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Adonis snuck in a foul Blue Panther.
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Carístico, Mistico, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6) Volador Jr. © b Cavernario [NWA WELTER] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15th defense (seems to be billed as 14)

You should go out of your way to see the main event. Culticon had it as the best CMLL singles match this year and I think that may be right, the best matches so far this year have all been tag matches. This is the fourth strong singles match of the year for Cavernario already, joining the FantasticaMania match against Dragon Lee and two with Rey Cometa (plus one of those really good tag matches.)

The rest of the card didn’t seem quite as strong as hoped but it was still a good card and a well attended one due to the discount.

Lucha Underground tonight is episode 3×23, “Family First”. It’s expected to be the first round matches in Group B of the Cueto Cup:

Family First would seem to refer to Marty & Mariposa. Last time we saw Marty, he was spying on Melissa Santos and then tied up in rope by Mariposa (payback for Marty attacking her before.)

The Lucha Libre World/Todo x el Todo annual tour of England begins tomorrow. They’re running in Manchester’s Albert Hall tomorrow, and York Hall in London on Friday and Saturday. This is the tour where Santo Jr. debuted last year. The Santos, Casandro, Laredo Kid, Silver King, Bandido, Mascartia Sagrada and Octagoncito are among those advertised.

AAA showed off a Dr. Wagner logo plane, which will take fans buying their travel package to the Ring & Rock StAAArs show in September. There’s also scheduled to be a Psycho Clown plane.

AAA’s show in Nuevo Laredo looks like it had a lot of open seats in this news report. It looks like some of the pictures from Juarez, where ringside was full and the bleachers were most full but the floor seats a few rows back were vacant.

Lucha Memes says one of their wrestlers will debut in CMLL on July 21st, Black Terry & Negro Navarro will return to the promotion sometime that month. and they’ll be debuting in a new building to lucha libre on July 15.

The PWG tag title match is now available on Highspot’s Network. I believe it’s two one camera shoot with no announcers.

Negro Navarro will be in Seattle this weekend, appearing on the Lucha Libre Volcanica show and teaching a two day seminar.

Dos Caras will appear at Slammiversary, in Alberto’s corner for the Impact/GFW championship match against Bobby Lashley. Dos has been in Alberto’s corner for matches in AAA (and WWE when they toured Mexico), and might figure into the finish – something where people go after Dos and Alberto is distracted fits as a usual out.

A new luchador named “SuperXStar” is scheduled to debut at Juventud Guerrera’s Super X show tomorrow. R de Rudo interviews him, reveals he’s the former Alas de Oro.

The Los Exoticos documentary will be aired on June 24 in Mexico City’s Faro Aragon. An all exotico lucha show will proceed it. That documentary has been around for a number of years but hasn’t gotten wider distribution.

There will be a lucha libre art exhibit on June 29th in Guadalupe, Nuevo Leon.

Hijo del Santo is angry a tournament on an AAA spot show is named after El Santo.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

DoradaFan has highlights of January 17, 2017 CMLL

MDA announced a mystery wrestler for a mystery location sometime in July.

The Gladiatores has an interview with Rey Fenix, talking about defending the PWG titles in Mexico.

Periodico La Voz interviews Sexy Francis.


IWRG (SUN) 06/25/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Tentaculo vs Power Bull
2) Climax Jr. & Shaolin vs Atomic Star & Lunatic Xtreme
3) Alas de Acero & Aramis vs Demonio Infernal & Metaleón
4) Dinamic Black, Gallo Frances, Pantera del Japon vs Cerebro Negro, Eterno, Tyson La Bestia
5) Heddi Karaoui, Trauma II, Villano III Jr. vs Emperador Azteca, Hijo del Pantera, Pantera I
6) Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible, Veneno vs Black Warrior, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Trauma I
7) Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro [hair]
3 v 3 hair match

Now we know why the Oficials are back. I think Hijo de Pirata Morgan can do a better first hair loss than this, unless he really just wants the moment of losing his hair with his father and brother. The officials will have more trouble.

The fourth match has a French chicken & Japanese panther. The third match looks good.

Tentaculo is a new name. Octopus?

CMLL (TUE) 06/27/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Sugar & El Alteño vs Carlo Roggi & Destello
2) Explosivo, Leono, Sensei vs Akuma, Joker, Metálico
3) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi vs La Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Valiente vs Pólvora, Sam Adonis, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

A show. Sugehit/Zeuxis make their way here. CMLL has two different people on their lineups named Joker at the same time, possibly hasn’t figured it out.

CMLL (TUE) 06/27/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Sangre Imperial vs Cholo & Templario
2) Astral, Magnus, Robin vs Artillero, Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo
3) Johnny Idol, Oro Jr., Stigma vs Raziel, Sagrado, Virus
4) Esfinge vs Disturbio [lightning]
5) Fuego, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Diamante Azul, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

We’re getting so much Diamante Azul next week, I wonder what new tattoos he’ll have. Hijos del Infierno are teaming up a lot without a trios title program. Opener would be the first CMLL streaming appearance for Templario since July.

06/19/2017 AAA in Nuevo Laredo Results (Mami & Hamburguesa mixed tag champs)

photo via AAA’s Twitter

AAA TV (MON) 06/19/2017 Poliforum, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas
1) Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa b Lady Shani & Venum [AAA MIXED TAG]
vacant titles following Sexy Star quitting the company (apparently over refusing to lose them) and Pentagon Jr. forfeiting them after defending them 2 v 1. Mami & Hamburguesa won qualifying matches. Venum got his shot from the Oro de Oportunidad and picked Shani as his partner. Hamburguesa & Mami are the 14th champions, both winning an AAA title first.
2) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © b Hernandez & Máscara de Bronce [AAA TAG]
First defense. Hernandez didn’t get along with Bronce (and it’s unclear why they were a team getting a title shot except to break up.) Kevin Kross took Bronce’s title shot case after the match.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker © NC Aerostar, Drago, Raptor [AAA TRIOS]
would’ve been second defense. Poder del Norte won via foul, but Vampiro threw out the match and declared the two teams would have a series of matches. The length of the series was left unspecified.
4) Marty Martinez b Texano Jr.
Billed as a Lucha Underground match. Killshot was advertised for this show, did not appear.
5) Estrella Divina b Pimpinela Escarlata
At some point in the show (maybe after this match), Averno attacked Pimpinela, but Sangre Chicana made the save.
6) Averno & Súper Fly b Argenis & La Parka
Presumably intended to be a tag match, but mostly a Argenis vs OGT match with no La Parka. He showed up later, apparently having been attacked backstage. OGT fouled Argenis to win. (Vampiro did not annul this result.)
7) Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Kevin Kross b Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Psycho Clown [Relevos Increíbles]
Billed as a relevos increíbles though Pagano is essentially a tecnico now. Texano distracted Fantasma to set up Kross’ win.

Air Date: 07/15 and 07/22

This was the usually 0 for 7 on advertised matches. Usually, everyone ends up on the show but in different matches. This time, 8 people (Ricky Marvin, Killshot, Taya, Faby, Mamba, Australian Suicide, Bengala, Lanzelot) all missed the show. Taya mentioned on Twitter that she was out due to injuries suffered from a drunk driver hitting her car last week. They might have not brought Faby without her. Marvin appears to be working spot shows but not TV. Killshot hadn’t mentioned AAA at all and I’m guessing plans changed there some time ago and AAA just didn’t say anything. The other are more interchangable, and there were people changed onto the show in their places, but it’s odd that Mamba didn’t wrestler on her hometown after being advertised.

The mixed tag title match happened out of nowhere but Mami & Hamburguesa were the obvious winners when the concept was announced. They keep doing bits where Mascara de Bronce loses the briefcase, so maybe they’re heading to a ladder match for it or something (pulling in guys like Kross and Hernandez and anyone else who doesn’t have something to do.)

An Aerostar/Drago/Raport vs Poder del Norte series of matches sounds fun, but it’s hard to believe AAA will carry it out in any way that makes sense with how scattered everything is at the moment. Not announcing how many matches the series sure seems like a sign they haven’t planned this out yet. (It probably should be three, to squeeze it in time for TripleMania.)

I suspect Texano/Marty won’t air. Divina beating Pimpi is a random finish but maybe a win going back later. They had set up Divina & Mamba versus Pimpi back in Arena Aficion, but that’ll be about six TV weeks before this show, hopefully they’ve taped something more in between that we haven’t been told about. The top two matches continued the usual feuds.

working TripleMania 25 card for August 27, version 1.1. Italics indicate match not official.

  • Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., mask vs mask
  • Johnny Mundo (c) vs Hijo del Fantasma vs Texano Jr. for all three AAA championships
  • a dream battle royal with Lanzelot and TBA (Sangre Chicana? OGT?)
  • probably Mesias vs Pagano in an extreme match
  • maybe something with the OGT vs Parka/Argenis/Ricky
  • maybe something with the #1 contender shot (Mascara de Bronce, Kevin Kross, Hernandez?)
  • perhaps Aerostar, Drago, Raptor versus Poder del Norte for the AAA Trios Championship
  • perhaps Faby Apache vs Taya for the Reina de Reinas title

Next taping is a week from Friday, June 30 in Puebla. That’s the farthest ahead lineup we have right now, with Monterrey not happening for about four weeks.