Drone, Pegasso, Star Jr. beat Cancerbero, Forastero, Nitro
(13:57 [5:58, 3:52, 4:07], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
(13:52 [8:14, 2:38, 3:00], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Misterioso Jr. beat The Pantherin a lightning match
(7:55, Gory Special, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora beat Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Johnny Idol
(15:09 [5:04, 2:58, 7:07], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Carístico, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Terrible (9:28 [2:40, 2:17, 4:31], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
In angles that exist but have never gone anywhere, Misterioso is still taking masks after wins.
The main events breezed thru their match without doing match, and then Mr. Niebla got dumped on his head by Diamante Azul for the finish. Zacarias running away in fear was the correct reaction. I don’t know what was supposed to be happening on the plancha spot before hand, but neither did they and it didn’t matter much. Nothing on this show mattered much.
The semimain had Blue Panther weirdness. Though, if they’re doing bits where Dragon Rojo of all people is out manuevering Blue Panther on the mat, then maybe Panther needs to call it a day. Angel de Oro coming back to quickly beat Hechicero to win the first fall right away was unexpected, and it was one of those unexpected endings Panther matches.
The lightning match was the match of the night for me. They had a few big spots (Panther’s missed plancha, his topes later) to build the match around, a competitive feeling the rest of the way, and everything looked pretty solid. It was pretty enjoyable for a Tuesday match.
Tiffany had a tough time in the women’s match, especially early on. It was an ordinary match otherwise, with a bit of focus on Sugehit leading into her mask match.
I watched most of a Nitro match because Forastero is pretty fun with these técnicos. They all couldn’t work with him, but they seemed to be trying to make it work and it didn’t drag on as much as some of these segundas.
Fiero might have been toned down after his brush with death the previous week, or his lack of highspots may have just been usual CMLL variance. Magia Blanca ended up getting as much spotlight as him. Blanca is looking better of late, though he’s still not as good as Fiero.
LLT (SUN) 09/17/2017 Cicero Stadium, Cicero, Illinois [thecubsfan, YoDeportes]
1) Chris Michael & Rey b Blue & Dante Dvs
2) Alonzo & Guiterrez b Tony Scarpone & Wild Liger
3) Zafiro (Chihuahua) b Kendra (Illinois), Nataly Sensacion, Calamity Jane, Luna Mágica
4) Love International, Octagoncito (original), Payaso Cocoliso, Vengador Futuro b ?, Destructor, Destructor Jr., Eros
5) Huracán Ramírez Jr. & Tritón b Skayde & X-Fly
6) Discovery, El Hijo Del Santo, Rey Mysterio Jr. b Dr. Cerebro, Súper Crazy, Yakuza
Most of the undercard names are totally, totally wrong. But so was the women’s match, where it appeared the lucha talent wanted nothing to do with the local woman and then the lucha women didn’t really work well with each other, and then Zafiro & Sensacion did a promo bit forever that went nowhere and accomplished nothing and I accomplished some reading. Always bring a book or a friend to a indie lucha libre show.
You know what was good in the undercard? I have no idea who “Alonzo” is (and only knew that much because it was on his gear), but he’s stood out as really good. A random Octagoncito appearance was nice to see, and he was leaps and bounds better than the other people in the match. Rey Horus was not seen; he was advertised, so maybe he was still hurt from PWG (but it didn’t stop him from working in New York last week so I dunno.)
Main event was, as best I can tell, the first time Rey Mysterio and Hijo del Santo have teamed up in 16 years – back during Rey’s bucket list CMLL run in 2001. They both gave a fair effort for this level of show (about half full at very expensive tickets); I was surprised to see Santo do the flip senton off the top to set up a tope on the floor spot. People treated Santo like a big deal but Rey was definitely the bigger star for this crew. Super Crazy did a good job of leading things on the rudo side and then vanished the moment the match was over.
He missed them doing a bit with Santo and Cerebro about Cerbero wrestling the match with a mask. Cerebro brought up the five year rule, they talked a while longer, and then they did the 10 second mask match bit with Cerebro running off instead of getting unmasked. Santo objected to someone who lost his mask putting it back on, but he later clarified to Rey that he was exempt. Rey was cool with it.
The power outage seemed to be because of the storm, because it likely means most (or all) of this show doesn’t end up airing.
IWRG results have Celestial Boy, instead of Angel Celestial, but Celestial Boy is in a neck brace following an injury on a Coacalo show last week. He may be out a long time.
Niebla Roja gets another shot at Gran Guerrero tonight in Arena Puebla. They’re the main event in a single match, following the mask match on Saturday. It’s the highlight match of an otherwise normal card.
Caristico, Dragon Lee and Soberano are a good tecnico team, but are facing Kojima, Mr. Niebla and Negro Casas. The NGD face Esfinge, Stigma, Stuka. Sugehit and Zeuxis rematch in a woman’s trio, with Marcela, Lady Maravilla (replacing Skadi), Dalys and La Comandante round out the match. Canelo Casas continues to be MIA, with King Jaguar stepping in for him again to team with Disturbio against Black Tiger & Espiritu Maligno. The Centella Rojas face Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabolika in the opener. The show will air at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube,
Rey Celestial, real name Oscar Leonardo Torres Parra, died after being hit by a car just a few minutes before the Canelo fight started Saturday night. The driver drove away, and the only information they have is the car was white and his rear view mirror. He leaves behind a young daughter. He’ll be buried today.
XXX (FRI) 10/06/2017Arena Naucalpan
1) Hijo De Cadáver vs Enjambre Jr., Hikuri
2) Broken & Dollar vs Golden & Hijo Del Ángel and Kroos & Terremoto
3) Mini Rey Misterio vs Pentagoncito, Black Shadito
4) Oriental vs Guerrero Siam lucha libre vs MMA
5) Jack Evans vs Villano III Jr., Tiago, Grond XXX, Black Taurus, Decnnis, Sharly Rockstar, Hijo del Lizmark [mask, hair]
This is a weird Naucalpan lineup that turned up over the weekend. I hope XXX Promotions means this a Gronda run show. I guess Tiago is the favorite to lose in the main event but Decnnis and Sharly aren’t impossible.
Black Tiger, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr. beat El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial
(17:42 [5:41, 4:49, 7:12], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCML)
Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico beat Asturiano, París, Último Dragóncito
(15:40 [7:55, 3:34, 4:11], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ángel de Oro, Drone, Soberano Jr. beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
(13:53 [4:48, 4:41, 4:24], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Sam Adonis beat Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Valiente
(12:31 [5:08, 1:30, 5:53], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Mistico, Octagón, Volador Jr. beat Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Último Guerrero
(11:53 [5:43, 1:39, 4:31], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Octagon returned to a CMLL show for the first time in 25 years. He is only working select Puebla shows at this point, clearly getting a trial run.
Cavernario and Adonis had a testy relationship but didn’t actually betray each other.
In the opener, Tirantes forgets who’s on which team, and grabs Tigre Rojo’s arm to raise simply because he’s close to him when the fall ends. Tigre Rojo is a tecnico, it’s the rudos who won, and Tigre Rojo explains this to Tirantes.
This was a very boring show. Nothing was too terrible, but nothing was worked all that hard. Any match that looked promising really wasn’t much, and most everything felt like it never got out of first gear.
In the main event, Octagon looked no different than he did in all of his indie matches – like he probably shouldn’t be wrestling at this point and definitely isn’t interested in taking any bumps. He did do a tope, which is more than you’re going to get out of him in a random Mexico State show, but he’s way too limited to be part of good matches. But, if having good matches was what mattered, he wouldn’t have been brought in the first place. His performance wasn’t a surprise and probably was meaningless.
Soberano’s having a trouble landing his tornillo as a plancha of late. He’s always landing on his feet and sort of leaning forward into his rival. It doesn’t look right.
CMLL (SAT) 09/16/2017Arena México [Claro, CMLL, CultIcon, SuperLuchas] CMLL 84th Anniversario
1) Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora b Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther 21:23. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón 13:21. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas DQ Kráneo, Rush, Sam Adonis 9:21. straight falls.
4) Zeuxis b Princesa Sugehit [mask] 20:49. Zeuxis took falls 2/3 to win. Princesa Sugehit is Ernestina Sugehit Salazar Martinez, 37, 21 years a luchadora.
5) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. b Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero 16:04. Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Gran Guerrero b Niebla Roja [mask] 18:23. Gran Guerrero took 2/3. Niebla Roja is Sergio Raymundo Chavez. He is 31, 11 years a wrestler
CMLL & AAA’s big show are always going to be compared. AAA was much more ambitious, failed badly in some ways, but delivered the one match they really cared about. CMLL had better matches, but also aimed much lower and the complacency in the promotion was impossibly to ignore. Both had parts to enjoy, but neither was such a complete good show that I feel any great urge to argue for one over the other.
LI (SUN) 09/17/2017Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Magic Girl & Tarahumara b Eva Bernal & Guerrera Isis
2) Ángel Negro, Hijo Del Villano III, Villano III Jr. b Flash I, Pantera del Japon, Súper Astro Jr. Pantera de Japaon replaced Hijo del Pnatera (IWRG). Money thrown in.
3) Pantera, Solar I, Súper Astro b Heddi Karaoui, Rocky Casas, Veneno
4) Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 Jr. b Rayman, Satánico, Villano IV Satnaico replaced Fantasma but turned on his parnters.
5) Rayo de Jalisco Jr. b Canek Cien Caras seconed Canek, but the ref threw him out before the finish. Rayo won. Money thrown in.
They threw in money for Rayo & Canek so I’m ok with never using money being thrown in as a good indicator of a quality match.
CMLL (SUN) 09/17/2017Arena México [CMLL]
1) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito b Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
2) Cancerbero, Puma, Raziel b Pegasso, Starman, Stigma rudos took 1/3
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis Sugehit wins her first match unmasked. Tecnicas took 2/3.
4) Dragón Lee, Flip Gordon, Rey Cometa DQ Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Terrible tecnicos took 2/3. Euforia fouled Flip to set up a singles match next week.
5) Carístico, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Rush Niebla Roja wins his first match unmasked, taking 2/3.
Mask match losers getting the win in their next match is the biggest lock in professional wrestling. I like to dream Euforia is feuding with all the ROH talent to get him ready for a big TV title run. (Even in my dreams, I can’t dream big.) Probably more that he’s a guy they trust with these guys who has some name value. This will mean two singles matches next week for Euforia, since he’s also going for the heavyweight title Tuesday in Guadalajara.
Puebla luchador Rey Celestial passed away Saturday. DTU held a moment of applause in his memory tonight. No cause of death has been mentioned. He was wrestling as recently as Wednesday in San Luis Potosi for The Crash. Rey Celestial was 22 when he passed away. He would’ve been about 17 when he was the minis winner of the second edition of Quien Pinta Para La Corona. That’s the competition that’s sort of become a cautionary tale for AAA’s latest talent search contest. Rey Celestial, La Magnifica and Saturno won the competition, but AAA didn’t appear to have any real interest in using the winners. Celestial spent about a year working small shows, and ended up with as many matches on AAA TV as on DTU’s TV show. (This would’ve been around the time of that AAA brand split that never actually happened.) Celestial was still good when he would turn up on video, and had worked a handful of The Crash shows before his passing. Winning the AAA contest probably didn’t change his career, but it did change his life – he and La Magnifica were a couple at the time of his passing.
CMLL (FRI) 09/22/2017Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Fantasy vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis
3) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Luciferno
4) Negro Casas vs Sam Adonis [lightning]
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Kráneo
6) Flip Gordon, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
That main event would’ve been a good semimain on Saturday. Oh well.
Reyna Isis is back after an extended trip to REINA in Japan.
CMLL (SAT) 09/23/2017Arena Coliseo
1) Sangre Imperial & Sensei vs Artillero & Inquisidor
2) Bengala, Fiero, Magnus vs Akuma, Cancerbero, George Kebrada
3) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany
4) Johnny Idol vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Flip Gordon, Mistico, Rush vs Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Último Guerrero
The Idol/Rojo match is random and not from anything they set up.
CMLL (SUN) 09/24/2017Arena México
1) Flyer & Sonic vs El Coyote & Templario
2) Drone, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Puma, Tiger
3) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Kráneo, Pólvora
4) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Flip Gordon vs Euforia
Semimain will probably be pretty great. NGD have leapfrogged a lot of people.
CMLL (SUN) 09/24/2017Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. vs Quka
2) El Yaqui & Principe Daniel vs Mr. Apolo & Relámpago Azul
3) Black Sugar, Javier Cruz Jr., Tigre Blanco vs Demonio Rojo, Difunto, Thunder Boy
4) El Alteño, Mágico, Neutrón vs Carlo Roggi, Mr. Trueno, Nautilius
5) El Rielero, Explosivo, Vaquero Jr. vs El Chakal, Pitbull I, Ráfaga
Chakal & Daniel have been wrestling on the indies for the last year, but are back here.
Gran Guerrero beatNiebla Rojain a mask vs mask match
(18:38, 2/3, great)
Niebla Roja springboard plancha (2:06)
Gran Guerrero wristlock armscissors (1:35)
Gran Guerrero fireman’s carry powerbomb (14:57)
Niebla Roja was unmasked as Sergio Raymundo Chavez. He is 31, 11 years a wrestler. He wrestled without any side of an injury, though they checked on his knee after the second fall.
Princesa Sugehit was unmasked as Ernestina Sugehit Salazar Martinez. She is 37, 21 years a luchadora.
Sam Adonis and Negro Casas continue to feud in their match. Adonis gave Casas an inverted atomic drop, which was ruled to be a knee lift foul.
Mima Shimoda accompanied Kojima for his match.
The iPPV feed aired without any major problem, though they continued to replace the dance numbers with video packages (even though they’re in no danger of being taken down by YouTube whe they’re not on YouTube.)
CMLL’s two big matches delivered on their promise. Roja wasn’t hampered by any leg injury or by a negative crowd reaction (they were definitely cheering for Gran Guerrero but did not reject the match.) The crowd got into the women’s match as much as they have for any big women’s match. Both matches were about as good as they could’ve hoped to be, and fans of those four luchadors left happy with the effort (if maybe not all happy with the results.)
The problem for this show is there weren’t enough fans of those four people to make for a strongly attended show, and they didn’t do enough with the other luchadors people might care about to make up the difference. There were sections of the show booed, but it came across more as indiference on the iPPV stream, and for good reason. The opener was the kind of extra effort match normal for a big show, but the other trios matches didn’t have that extra bit. The NGD match was good given who was involved but was unexpectly more a showcase for the técnicos. The third match was an early match feud, one that didn’t feel near hot enough to make it worthwhile. And the semimain was kind of a more, a match that didn’t feel like it should be be part of a big show on paper and one where the participants didn’t work all that hard to change that perception. The malaise that’s overtaken the rest of CMLL cards this year was just as present on the biggest show of their year. An underwhelming anniversary show is an accurate representation of the last year.
If Niebla Roja does a run of interviews swearing that he wasn’t injured, that everyone was making it up, people would have a hard time disproving him on based on his performance here. Both he and Gran Guerrero talked about wanting to prove they belonged in this spot. This was not an epic on the level of the Atlantis matches, but this did feel like the best possible Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero match, one that was capable of pulling in a disincllined crowd to react to the big near falls. (All the near falls felt big too. Unexpectedly, CMLL doing such a lackluster job of building interest into the match made the match seem a little bit more fresh – this was not simply a better version of a match they’d done many times because they not had a singles match before this.) I wish Gran Guerrero was more his own man and not such an Último Guerrero cover band, but he did the best version of UG’s style with his own finishes as he could. Niebla Roja didn’t connect strongly with the crowd, but he did try everything he could here to make the match dramatic. This would’ve been a breakout singles match if it had happened prior to the Anniversary, and feels underwhelming mostly because of how CMLL positioned it and not what they did.
The semifinal definitely feels underwhelming based on what they did. CMLL’s going to roll out Kojima and Flip Gordon in trios matches for a while, and you’ll liable to see ones just as good as the semimain from the Anniversario show. Gordon didn’t really stand out beyond the kip up spot. Kojima seems like a nice guy, but is definitley in the wrong promotion, and wasn’t a great pick for an extended tour. The other guys coudl’ve made up for it, but were just checking off moves from their big matches with no particular excitement. There was no urgency or pressure that you’d expect for a match on this level of show, and just that made it more disappointing than it would’ve been on a regular show.
The woman’s match was actually a little disappointing to me for the first couple of minutes, with both women working unconvincing holds unlike they had done in previous matches. The finishes were good, and it really picked up in the third fall. (Though, I am still disappointed Sugehit next landed the Asai plancha.) The crowd was more into this match from the start, but it didn’t feel like they knew these women as well. Sugehit using the satellite armbar she’s won with the last couple weeks to no reaction stood out as the crowd liking the idea of this match but not as diehard fans as you might expect. Thye should have new fans after this one; they did a lot of big stuff and it came thru well. The cradle reversal out of Sugehit’s armbar was cool, as was Zeuxis accidentally taking out a fan with a knee. Even the Spanish Fly went well, and that’s no guarnatee here.
The tercera served the purpose of getting the next big feud over in front of this crowd, but it didn’t come across as strong enough to get people to really care. I don’t think Negro Casas is into this right not as much as Blue Panther was from the start. Panther sold Adonis bigger as a foreign invader, while Casas more treats him as the guy he happens to be facing at this moment. The other guys around it weren’t much help. Cavernario/Rush sounds like an interesting match on paper, but Rush just kind of ate up Cavernario and that was that. Kraneo & Felino were not big factors.
I misread the second match. It wasn’t another NGD exhibition. They were just taking the spot of the Hijos del Infierno or the Revolucionarios or any other midcard rudo stable, there to stooge around to set up the técnicos offense on a big show. That might have still worked great if the técnicos were Soberano, Mistico and Dragon Lee, but these guys weren’t quite as exciting. The técnicos did generally break out the best stuff in their cabinet (except Valiente’s mask and blond hair, which is about the worst look), but it’s also the same general stuff (except the Valiente moonsault) we get to see from them a lot. Forastero got to land his dropkick on a big show, and they looked good when they worekd as a team. There just could’ve been more of it. This still would’ve been a good show is this was the least quality match on it. It just was not.
The sole trios match which felt like luchadors going at top effort for a top show was the opener. I guess it really shouldn’t have been a surprise that the person who was the best when everyone was at their best was Hechicero. The second fall was just a showcase for all he could do, and he totally won over the crowd. (I wonder if he was watching some of the MYC, because the “leap into my submission hold” finish was seen there too.) This was a little messy at times, with Dragon Rojo and Pólvora not really connecting cleanly on things. It was still a lot of fun.
Today’s the CMLL Anniversario show. Here’s that lineup one more time:
CMLL (SAT) 09/16/2017Arena México CMLL 84th Anniversario
1) Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
2) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
3) Kráneo, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
4) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis [mask]
5) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
6) Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero [mask]
This would be one of the best Claro/YouTube cards they’ve done if this was a random Friday in June. It’s not right for an Anniversary show. Still the opener should be good, the women’s mask match should be good. NGD on a big stage should be crazy, and Flip Gordon has the right rudos to make himself a name in one night. The Peste Negra match is likely to be storyline over action, but the crowd will be into it.
The loudest I’ve ever heard someone get booed at a wrestling show, any wrestling show, is the Mistico/Mascara Dorada/Valiente vs Dragon Rojo/Polvora/Rey Escorpion trios match at an Anniversary. That was a great match, but the crowd hated it, hate the promotion, hated the concept of lucha libre because it followed Volador & Sombra winning the tag match so their mask match (and not Atlantis/UG) would be taking place that night. I do not know if the fans will show up to reject Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero quite as loudly, but something like that is in play for the main event. It’s also possible they’ll throw everything at the wall (need to count the stage dives tonight) and have something approaching a **** match in the main event just to prove they should be there – and still get booed along the way. These aren’t the right guys, but they’re not Diamante Azul & Pierroth. Most of the problem isn’t them, but how CMLL got to this point.
Lucha Underground EVP Eric Van Wagenen was on yesterday’s Masks, Mats & Mayhem, and there was some interesting LU related discussion
Season 4: “I’m still hopeful for it. There’s still conversations going on between the LLC (LU) and the network (El Rey).” El Rey still has the right to pick up the show for some (unsaid) amount of time. “I have no indications that we’re not coming back, the timing of it is just now in question.” Van Wagenen says he was on a call about (the potential) Season 4 just a few hours before the podcast – people are working on the situation, it has been forgotten. “It’s going to take some clever budgeting” (which confirms the obvious, it’s a money issue) but he thinks the doomsday stuff has been overblown.
El Rey had a crew at TripleMania, shooting some behind the scenes stuff. Some of the LU partners were there.
Sexy Star is not currently under Lucha Underground contract. She signed a 3 year deal, which expires at the end of these upcoming episodes. At the end of Season 3, LU was told she was leaving wrestling to go into boxing or maybe have another kid, which is the story she was telling everyone at the time. LU couldn’t fire her after TripleMania because she doesn’t work there any more, but it sounds like they will not be bringing her back because of that incident. “We have a zero tolerance policy for wrestlers intentionally hurting other wrestlers….We’ve let people go for that in the past.” (He avoids naming names there.) He can’t say she won’t be back for a Season 4 because they don’t have a Season 4 greenlighted, but they don’t want it back.
They really liked Lorenzo Llamas and just the idea of having Lorenzo Llamas on Lucha Underground, but Llamas wasn’t all that interested in acting due to his other businesses and asked to be wrapped up. So, he died on short notice. Chris DeJoseph came up with the death, and the eyeball squish.
Kevin Kross was also on the show. He says he still has the #1 contenders briefcase but we’re not seeing it because he doesn’t want someone else to take it. In less storyline news, Kross says he’s hoping for LU S4 like the rest of us, but has been working on backup plans if the show gets canceled.
The Ultimo Dragon anniversary shows will never end. That main event looks fun, and the semimain has a weird collection of people.
AAA TV (FRI) 10/20/2017 Palenque de la Feria, Metepec, Estado de México
1) Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa vs Australian Suicide & La Hiedra
2) Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzeloth vs Ángel Mortal Jr., Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr.
3) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs Monsther Clown & Murder Clown
4) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Texano vs ?, ??, ???
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown vs Kevin Kross & Rey Escorpión
AAA lineups a month form now mean nothing, especially after a PPV. I’d guess the idea is for Impact wrestlers in the semifinal, since those are the three guys appearing on GFW’s show. Looks like the Llave winners are just going to be grouped in with the Lanzeloth/Venum guys who aren’t much, which should produce really good matches if limit how big a star they’re going to be.
Pagano & Psycho Clownbeat Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Mesías (14:56, Psycho Clown Code Red Dr. Wagner, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)
Even though every other AAA tag match is first pinfall for the win, and even the multiwoman match was first pinfall, the main event suddenly became an elimination match after Pagnao was pinned. Everyone was confused, but they mostly wanted Psycho to be handicapped and get two pins in a row to win. Mesias beat Pagano, Psycho beat Mesias, and Psycho beat Wagner after a few minutes more. Wagner attacked and unmasked Psycho to end the show.
Raptor landed a plancha on one of Poder del Norte, but the others snuck in thru a ground exit. They laid out Aerostar & Raptor with moves on the steps, then Cota quickly beat Mocho Cota. The post match attack lasted about as long as the match. Ratpor was treated as injured, but he was on TripleMania, so who knows. The técnicos now lead two matches to one.
The four way match was for the title shot that already happened at TripleMania. Goya attacked everyone on the way to the ring, which didn’t mean anything but started everyone attacking everyone else. Shani seemed to be back to being a ruda here.
The AAA shows feel more like something to endure than enjoy. This particular lame duck taping is the worst – this is where the Hard Rock show needs to go, even though it’ll never happen – but this hasn’t been a fun show in a while.
The main event was explicitly a preview of TripleMania, as hyped by the announcers. It’s unnecessary and beside the point after the fact, outside of the oddity of Psycho & Wagner running thru the TripleMania finish. It looked better here, as did Pagano’s dropkick off the apron. The crowd was way into this, but I could find a reason to care.
The best matches on these shows have been the Poder del Norte/tecnicos match, so this one was scarely more than an angle. I guess the idea is not to make sure all the matches feel different, but I would’ve been happy with five about the same.
The woman’s match was just a lot of moves. The tried to set up sequences but it was mostly the women betraying each other repeatedly with no direction. It ended and that was good, the moves generally look OK, and there wasn’t enough here to hate. It did feel a lot longer than six minutes, maybe just because Goya was attacking before the whistle, maybe because it was just a lot of stuff.
Someone totally forgot the finish in the opener. Either Angelico forgot, or Lider went to the top for it far sooner than then he was planned. Both men spent a lot of time waiting for each other to do something, and I spent time wondering why AAA couldn’t have made an edit. This was a boring match with a really bad looking moment, not exactly the return to TV you’d hope for Angelico. It’s also not a super logical build for Joe Lider, who’s only been on TV three times since April, lost all those matches, and will somehow be main eventing the next card. Did AAA not know Lider was main eventing the next show at this point? Were they trying to do something to convince Angelico to stick around? Does it just not make any sense because it’s AAA? Probably.
MedioTiempo talks about the history of what day the Anniversary show has been held on. I write a little about this in a preview going up on Voices of Wrestling, but I wonder if CMLL might permanently attach this show to Independence Day. It would seem like a good idea if they can draw with this card, and most of their biggest shows are now held on or about holidays. The Dia de Muertos shows are coming up (and would be a logical place for an Adonis/Casas match if that’s the direction), and CMLL will also hold big shows on Christmas Day and New Year’s Day. 09/16 falls on Sunday next year, a more traditional CMLL day where they could pull this off again.
An English language El Desperado interview on NJPW’s site brings up Coliseo Coacalco in passing. Desperado calls the ring and the locker room terrible as part of a larger point that it doesn’t matter how bad the situation is (with Coacalco being put up there as pretty bad), it’s still wrestling and he’s still giving it his all.
I happened to be getting thru some podcast backlog today and heard Drew Galloway/McInteyre on Chris Jericho’s show. Drew talks about all the difference places he wrestled during his hiatus and AAA immediately springs to mind when he’s talking about the worst rings. He worked a Lucha World Cup and those Viva el Rey tour shows in 2015. I think Mexican wrestlers are used to these situations because they haven’t experienced anything also, but they should know that everyone outside of Mexico has a poor impression of Mexican wrestling because of the conditions they’re asked to work in.
I think I successful updated the date this time. I think I really liked the Gran Prix. I think even I don’t understand how I didn’t give the ladder match a better grade. Maybe everything after it ruined it? I think AAA had three really bad matches on the TripleMania main card alone, and yet are probably going to get away with it because the people who care were there just for Psycho/Wagner and the curious onlookers don’t think much of AAA anyway. I think not having AAA for a couple weeks (and not having a Mexico trip impending) is going to make this a little quicker to catch up.
Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Euforia, Mephisto, Rush, Último Guerrero, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Kenny King, Kojima, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin, Sam Adonisin a CMLL Gran Prix Tournament match
CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-01
Ángel Mortal Jr., Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr. vs Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, The Tigger [La Llave a La Gloria]
AAA PPV: 2017-08-26
Carístico, Mistico, Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-01
Big Mami, Dinastía, Estrella Divina, Máscara de Bronce vs Hernandez, La Hiedra, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown
AAA PPV: 2017-08-26
Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs Aerostar & Drago and Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Andrew Everett & DJZfor the AAA World Tag Team Championship
Argenis vs Bengala, La Parka, Australian Suicide, Faby Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata, Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly, Bobby Lashley, Jeff Jarrett, Moose, Decnnis, Scorpió Jr., Zumbido, Histeria, Maniaco, Psicosis, Halloween, Mr. Águila, X-Fly, Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Niño Hamburguesa, Heavy Metal, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin, Blue Demon Jr., El Cobarde, Pirata Morgan [Torneo Triplemania]
AAA PPV: 2017-08-26
Astral, Pegasso, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-29
Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Diamante Azul vs Gran Guerrero, Pierroth, Rush