Ultimo Guerrero once again CMLL heavyweight champion, Ayako in Mexico, LU

photo by CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 10/16/2018 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Acero & Aéreo b Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000 LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Espanto Jr., Inquisidor, Metálico b Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Robin LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3
3) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego DQ Kawato San, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
straight falls when Unvierso 2000 unmasked Blue Panther Jr.
4) Audaz, Esfinge, Tritón b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3, with Misterioso and Sagrado stumbling into defeat once again. Virus seemed annoyed with his partners.
5) Euforia, Nitro, Rey Bucanero b Mistico, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Nitro replaced Shocker. Rudos took 1/3.
Battle for vacant title (Marco Corleone.) UG took falls 2/3 to win the championship for a second time.

Ultimo Guerrero did a promo for CMLL’s YouTube, and then general media ones (The Gladiatores, Box Y Lucha). He will also be on Informa. Guerrero said he’d like to defend the title first against Gilbert. It’s no real surprise Ultimo Guerrero won a singles title; he’s usually has one in CMLL. The flip side is an Ultimo Guerrero versus Diamante Azul heavyweight match seemed to draw no better than usual, and perhaps worse

If that match isn’t going to draw on Tuesday, it’s hard to understand why CMLL won’t give guys like Fuego a try in a big match. It can’t draw worse than what they’re already doing. Maybe they’ll get lucky and hit on something. Maybe the experience will be better. I’m not sure if the Universo/Blue Jr. thing is setting up a match, but it also should absolutely set up a match. Why not?

A large portion of this show was unwatchable live due to YouTube having issues. It doesn’t seem to have affected the stream, which is up in full like normal.

CMLL (TUE) 10/16/2018 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Black Sugar, Magnum, Star Black b Bobby Black, Difunto, Ráfaga
2) La Guerrera, La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit b La Seductora, Metálica, Reyna Isis
tecnicas took 1/3.
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino, Pólvora b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
rudos took 2/3.
4) Blue Panther, Kráneo, Volcano b Dark Magic, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 1/3
5) La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible b Atlantis, Carístico, David Finlay
Ingobernables took 1/3.

The search for the Finlay feud goes on.

Soberano Jr. & Volador Jr. took the loss to Jushin Lyger & Tiger Mask in their second Super Junior Tag League. Soberano took the pin, which probably will be happening a lot for the next few weeks.

CMLL luchadors visited the Mexico national anthropology museum, as part of a co-promotion for the Dia de Muertos shows.

Lucha Underground 4×19 is titled “Savagery”

It does not appear they’re going the normal Medalion route to determine a new Gift of the Gods winner. There doesn’t appear to be enough time, and there also doesn’t appear to be enough people left alive and not already in feuds to have 14 people compete for seven Medalions.

This is episode 19. Including it, there are four episodes and five hours of Lucha Underground left this season. I was looking back at the post I did on the Season 4 trailer, and there’s a fair bit of stuff left that hasn’t been shown. The Dragon Azteca/King Cuerno/Aerostar meeting is the one that’s come up a lot, but there’s other stuff (and at least one character) we haven’t seen yet. Rey Mysterio Jr. returning to WWE last night reminds me we still haven’t gotten the explanation of his status this season; they eventually got to writing on Sexy Star, so it seems safe they’ve got something planned for Rey. I figure some of this stuff might even be saved until the end of the season but, with Ultima Lucha 4 nearly already set, they might have time for other things tonight.

+Lucha had Ayako Hamada on as a guest last night, and they were joined by lots of her friends. When Hamada was last in the news just a few months ago, it appeared she was going to jail for a while after drug charges in Japan. It’s unclear how she is in Mexico now; she was evasive when asked about the situation, giving no details that might explain what’s going on now. The interview seemed to turn more into talk about her career in general and growing up in wrestling. However she’s come to be in Mexico, Ayako sounds like she plans on resuming her career after taking a break to recover. I hope she’s well.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Underground episode 4×8.

new CMLL heavyweight champion tonight, Volador & Soberano pick up a win in NJPW


CMLL (MON) 10/15/2018 Arena Puebla [CMLL, Lucha Central]
1) Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Tigre Rojo Jr. b King Jaguar, King Rocker Jr., Toro Bill Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 15 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Avispa Dorada, Lluvia, Marcela b Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 15 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Avispa Dorada replaced Sanely. Tecnicas took 2/3.
3) Kawato San, Okumura, Templario b El Audaz, Stigma, Tritón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 15 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja DQ Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 15 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3, the last when Mephisto unmasked Diamante Azul.
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Carístico, David Finlay, Mistico LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 15 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.

Show sounded like it was OK.

Tonight’s CMLL show will crown a new CMLL Heavyweight Championship, with Ultimo Guerrero and Diamante Azul facing for the vacant championship. UG is looking to become a two-time champion, while Diamante Azul attempts to become a world solo champion for the first time. Guerrero just lost the NWA Middleweight Championship a couple months ago, and he usually has a singles title. Having a double champion (Guerrero is a trios champion) helps the Universal math, though it’s unclear when/if that thing is happening this year. It’ll also be tough for Ultimo Guerrero to have as good a match as he did Friday, this time with Diamante Azul, but he’ll deserve a lot of credit if he comes close.

There’s not a lot on the rest of the card. Mistico, Niebla Roja and Stuka draw Rey Bucanero, Euforia, and Shocker, which sounds like a few good spots in an average match. Audaz, Esfinge, and Triton face Virus, Sagrado, and Misterioso, which could be good but probably won’t be. Fuego continues to be in midcard purgatory, teaming with the Panthers against Tiger, Universo, and Kawato. The opening matches aren’t much.

The show will start at 7:30pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Los Ingobernables take on Atlantis, Caristico and Dave Finlay in Guadalajara.

Volador Jr. & Soberano won their opening match in the NJPW Junior Tag League over ACH & Ryusuke Taguchi. As a rule, the CMLL rep must win the first match of the league, get off to a good start, and then band things happen. The show is up on NJPW World in English and Japanese.

CMLL will hold a press conference for the Dia de Muertos shows on Friday night, at 6:30 (two hours before the Friday night show.) I assume this will be streamed by I may assume wrong. The Dia de Muertos press conferences tend to talk more about the art and artists involved than announcing any matches.

Unspecified CMLL talent was mentioned as coming back to ROH soon on Friday’s PPV, according to this tweet.

The #5 moment of Blue Panther’s career, according to CMLL, is winning the Toreno Leyenda Azul in 2000 and being given the trophy by Blue Demon himself.

Lucha Central is doing a week of Blue Panther content, including a look back at his career and his feud with Love Machine.

DTU is opening a school in Pachuca. Negro Casas, Miedo Extremo, Ciclope, Pesadilla, Paranoiko, and Crazy Boy will appear at the opening.

AAA TV in Juarez

Demon betraying Psycho Clown in his last appearance and teaming with him in a month is why it’s hard to care all that much about AAA stories. Total waste of bringing in Cage to have him work with those tecnicos. You can see the top of the lineup poster here; Pagano, Joe Lider, Laredo Kid, Hijo del Vikingo, Carta Brava Jr., and Mocho Cota are pictured without yet being announced in the match. No LA Park, Fenix or Penta.

El Hijo del Santo has been promoting his new documentary, which is in theatres last week and this week only. AAA’s Arturo Rivera accused Santo of living off his father’s name and wasting his career. AAA people are still very unhappy with Hijo del Santo after the lawsuit between them, and Santo usually trashes AAA in these interviews. Santo called Arturo Rivera a bitter alcoholic on drugs. Hugs all around.

The Mascarita Sagrada return was said to be because he was part of a sponsor’s commercial campaign. You can now see the commercial, and see Sagrada is a small part of it. (They just needed someone small, and AAA doesn’t have any mascots right now.) The focus is really on Chessman vs Guardian del Emperador, the mascot of the Emperador cookie brand.

Space has put up the first episode of its Por La Mascara lucha libre drama up on YouTube for free. Some familiar names work as extra characters on the show.

MexaWrestling will return on 12/08. This is billed as the start of their second season. They had announced they would be taking a break after the August show.

Over at Pro Wrestling Only, JR Goldberg writes about Caifan vs Karonte.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

+LuchaTV has this week’s podcast.

Criterio Hidalgo interviews local Pachuca luchador Sangre Azul Jr.


CMLL (SAT) 10/20/2018 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Leono vs El Coyote & Grako
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Súper Astro Jr. vs Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca
3) Pegasso vs Tiger [lightning]
4) Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Universo 2000 Jr.
5) Kráneo, Stuka Jr., Volcano vs Máscara Año 2000, Okumura, Rey Bucanero
6) Atlantis, Carístico, Diamante Azul vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

This is Tiger’s fifth lightning match since the start of September.

CMLL (SUN) 10/21/2018 Arena México
1) Arkalis & Sonic vs Apocalipsis & Cholo
2) Shockercito, Stukita, Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia
3) Audaz, Drone, Fuego vs Disturbio, Kawato San, Tiger
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Kráneo, Volcano vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Shocker
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Dark Magic, Euforia, Terrible

Dark Magic gets to be in a main-event. It mostly seems like he’s working with Diamante Azul, and Azul is in the main event.

Stukia is back for the first time since July. He missed some CMLL bookings to work elsewhere, which might be why he wasn’t getting any more CMLL bookings. Stukita is Halcon Suriano’s grandson, so it’s noticable he’s not part of that Blue Panther show so far.

CMLL Martes: 2018-10-02 

this doesn’t seem fun in a CMLL ring

Recapped: 10/02/2018


Mercurio & Pequeño Violencia beat Acero & Aéreo 
(12:52 [5:30, 3:57, 3:25], 2/3, n/r, 

Cancerbero, Nitro, Sangre Azteca beat Pegasso, Príncipe Diamante, Súper Astro Jr.  
(8:15 [4:41, 3:34], 1/2, n/r, 

Felino, Misterioso Jr., Tiger beat Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr.  
(14:09 [4:51, 2:43, 6:35], 2/3, n/r,

Ángel de Oro, Audaz, Niebla Roja beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Luciferno, Pólvora
(17:11 [4:43, 5:11, 7:17], 2/3, n/r,

Mistico, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Negro Casas
(8:22 [1:49, 3:34, 2:59], 1/3, good, 

Carístico beat Gran Guerrero for the NWA World Middleweight Championship
(18:58 [5:21, 1:39, 11:58], 1/3, great,

  1. Carístico cradle (5:21)

  2. Pulpo Guerrero (1:39)

  3. La Caristica (11:58)

What happened: 

Nitro is now wearing pants that match Cancerbero, instead of his old Tuareg gear. The rudos win straight falls easily.


Maestro Caristico

The title match was very much a Guerrero style championship match, which used to be a Carístico/Mistico style match when he had a lot of them here. They didn’t break any new group, but put together something that was pretty dramatic. There’s still something in Carístico for the diehards who are diehard enough to show up on a Tuesday show, and these two worked a match with a lot of near falls sucked them in. Gran Guerrero held his end as a base, keeping up with Caristico’s offense – the top rope headscissors at the end was the only shaky moment to me, and that was more about the ropes being shaky. Carístico took much more high impact than he really had to here, but it made Gran Guerrero come off as a worthy contender. Given their positions in CMLL, I suspect this won’t be the only time we see this matchup, but it’s hard to imagine it going much better than it did here.

I didn’t have much to write about the undercard, but 3/4/5 did all seem like they had more life than usual. The Blue Panther match was as different as usual but they worked well with what they did. The Chavez brothers had a solid match. I thought the Mistico trios match was the best of them all, with a Friday night level effort. I didn’t grasp how short it was – almost as short as the two fall match – until I went to figure it out later. They tried for as long as they were out there.

Dragon Bane still king of the IWRG air, Puebla

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 10/14/2018 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), The Gladiatores]
1) Death Metal b Ángel Estrella Jr.
2) Shil-Kah COR Leo
3) Hijo de Canis Lupus b Hijo del Alebrije
They wanted a rematch in superlibre.
4) Capo del Norte, Capo del Sur, Demonio Infernal b Diablo Jr., Freelance, Multifacetico 2.0
straight falls
5) Metaleón, Pasion Kristal, Rafy b Fantasma de la Ópera, Pitbull, Último Gladiador
straight falls, setting up a Pasion Kristal versus Fantasma de la Opera hair match.
6) Hijo De Dos Caras, Relámpago, Toscano DQ Herodes Jr., Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Hijo de Sangre Chicana
Los Masters Juniors lose their first match as a team, though by excessive violence DQ in the third.
7) Dragón Bane © b Aramis [IWRG REY DEL AIRE]
ended in a double pin. They (mostly Aramis) asked for another fall, Black Terry also agreed with them, the extra fall was permitted, and Bane got the win quickly after the restart.

This is really short today because I’ve got other emergencies going on. Puebla has Caristico, Finlay, and Mistico against the Guerreros, which should be alright.

Ovaciones says Ludark & Diosa Atenea will be part of IWRG’s annual Castillo del Terror match and have an intense rivalry. Ludark & Diosa have had two matches ever against each other, the last one being about a year ago.

MLW announced Rush versus Sammy Guevara on 11/08 in Chicago. That’ll be Rush’s MLW debut.

CMLL Puebla: 2018-10-01 

normal Monday night match

Recapped: 10/08/2018


Black Tiger & Meyer beat Ares & Fuerza Chicana
(14:56 [5:37, 4:10, 5:09], 1/3, n/r, 

Arkalis, Astral, Magnus beat El Perverso, Espanto Jr., Policeman
(14:30 [5:09, 4:38, 4:43], 2/3, n/r, 

Princesa Sugehit beat Reyna Isis in a lightning match
(7:36, Michinoku Driver, ok, 

Dragón Rojo Jr., Okumura, Pólvora beat Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stigma
(15:11 [4:34, 5:16, 5:21], 2/3, ok, 

Diamante Azul, Kráneo, Michael Elgin beat Cuatrero, Dark Magic, Sansón
(13:44 [2:00, 4:32, 7:12], 2/3, ok, 

Cavernario, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible beat Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, Volador Jr.  
(19:09 [5:05, 5:22, 8:42], 2/3, ok,

What happened: 

Cavernario beat Volador to set up a title match for next week. It had seemed the last few weeks like they were going in a Rush/LA Park direction, and perhaps something had changed.


LA Park getting away wiht what most people can’t

This whole show kind of dragged and the main event wasn’t as different as I’d hope. There was some fun stuff lately, though it took two long falls to get there. These didn’t feel quite as alive as with Rush in them, with those first two falls feeling packed with LA Park & son spots and the rivalry pushed to the background. They finished well, and a main event in a Park match ending cleanly was surprising. Not so surprising it didn’t involve him, but they did have a nice fake-out with a ref distraction early.

I studied the Dark Magic match the day of the show to find some deep insights on this guy who had barely wrestling in CMLL. It turned out that he looked like a guy who had barely wrestled in CMLL. Beyond the moves, he didn’t seem like he totally grasped where he was supposed to be or what was happening at times. Kawato, as much as he’s struggled, seems to get it more than Dark Magic at this point. Kawato just doesn’t look like Dark Magic. It remains odd to see Cuatrero & Sansón simply being used as bodies to be thrown around by Elgin. It looked sloppy at times; the double powerslam really looked wrong. Cuatrero was much better at the chop spot. The NGD guys can stooge well, they’re just not asked to do it much.


Last week, I thought the Costa Ricans had a less appealing match with the Stigma/Panthers team than usual. This week, the Costa Ricans look a lot better. This was a pretty boring match, more than normal for this trios team. They never really got the match going at a decent speed, and it was plain boring at times. It’s not a great sign when Black Panther is walking thru dives, though it seemed it might have been due to some leg injury. No one did much of anything iht his one.

Reyna Isis, “woman who has trouble removing her pants”, is the most I’ve ever liked her. I guess they’re tropes because they work. The lightning match with Princesa Sugehit was fine in the usual fashion, with nothing much to write about. The notable thing here is CMLL didn’t put up the giant graphics, confirming they exist solely for the big screen on Arena Mexico and the freeloaders watching online aren’t a concern.

CMLL weekend results, Guadalajara referee killed


CMLL (SAT) 10/13/2018 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Acero & Aéreo b Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
tecnicos took 2/3
2) Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo, Príncipe Odín Jr. b Arkalis, Astral, Magnus
Hijo del Signo replaced Nitro. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Kawato San, Okumura, Virus b Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr.
rudos took 1/3.
4) La Metálica b La Jarochita [lightning]
La Jarochita replaced Sanely
5) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente
NGD took 1/3
6) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b David Finlay, Kráneo, Volcano
Guerreros took 1/3.

There is a Metalica promo talking about her win.

CMLL (SUN) 10/14/2018 Arena México
1) Apocalipsis & Inquisidor b Bengala & Leono
rudos took 1/3.
2) La Comandante, La Metálica, La Seductora b La Guerrera, La Vaquerita, Skadi
Skadi’s return after a year and a month (leg injury.) Another two fall match in a run of them.
3) Tiger b Tritón [lightning]
Tiger won in 6:30.
4) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stigma b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. b Felino, Hechicero, Pólvora
tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Ángel de Oro, David Finlay, Mistico b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
tecnicos took 1/3

CMLL posted promos from Tiger and Skadi. CMLL’s comittment to doing nothing on these shows remains strong.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara referee Pedro el Millionario (Pedro Davalos) was killed Saturday night. He was refereeing as recently as this week; he’s in the Guadalajara videos I uploaded this morning. A moment of remembrance was held for him on tonight’s show. Pedro was among of a group of people walking near Arena Coliseo Guadalajara when a red truck drove up and shot at them according to this article. Pedro died after being taken to the hospital. Two other people also died in the attack. The motive is unknown. This story got more media attention because of the

There was a rumor that Pepe Casas passed away, but Tiger stated it wasn’t true.

CMLL picked for Blue Panther’s 7th biggest moment was beating Hijo del Lizmark for his mask, and the debut of his sons as the 6th moment. In talking about the Blue Panther Anniversary show, Estrellas de Lucha Libre points out the Black Warrior versus Mistico mask match was the highest priced ticket in the history of Arena Mexico at that time. If I knew that, I forgot that.

Gilbert talks about coming to CMLL. He says he owns the Mesias name but AAA owns the right to market it. That’s confusing.

AAA’s Juarez promoter sems to be announcing matches from their 11/18 taping on their Facebook. Not in order, but they are saying which match it is.

Aerostar & Drago were interviewed by Record about their impending breakup. It hasn’t actually happened yet, but it’s clearly about to. Aerostar doesn’t want to be part of a team anymore, he wants to show what he can do as a single and feels being in a team with an injured Drago (shoulder) has held him back. Drago thinks Aerostar needs to handle wins and losses better.

The president of the Box Y Lucha commission in Tepic explained the lack of lucha libre in the area as the lack of places to run lucha libre, the local luchadors being poorly organized, and the local luchadors not being any good.

Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Underground 4×7.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Mini Spiderman is teaching lucha libre techniques, among other things, to police in Hidalgo.

Ultimo Guerrero defeats Elgin, Dia de Muertos schedule, Blue Panther 40th lineup


AAA , ELITE (THU) 10/11/2018 Palenque de la Feria, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes [AAA]
1) Príncipe Seira & Xtreme X ?? Dark Finder & Discovery and Corazón Forajido & Índio Yori
2) Faby Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani b Keyra, Lady Maravilla, Starfire
Shani & Apache were able to get along.
3) Bandido & Flamita b Aerostar & Drago
Aerostar & Drago had more problems leading to their defeat. Texano & Escorpion confronted Mexablood after the match, talking about their title match on 10/28.
4) Chessman, La Parka, Súper Fly b Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Jack Evans
Emperador Azteca replaced Teddy Hart.
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Rey Escorpión, Texano b Electroshock, Puma King, Taurus
Fantasma beat Electroshock after a foul. This gave AAA a 3-1 over Elite.
6) Psycho Clown b FénixPaganoPentagón Jr.
Psycho Clown beat Pentagon Jr. with a destroyer

AAA finally wins a battle over Elite, only when there are no cameras to film it. I would be suspicious of biased refereeing if that wasn’t actually normal for AAA.

The seemingly periodic rumors of Elite actually running a show are back again.

CMLL (FRI) 10/12/2018 Arena México [CMLL, Lucha CentralMarcaOvaciones]
13:07. Rudos took 1/3
2) Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis b Avispa Dorada, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:22. Rudas took 1/3.
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Templario b Audaz, Esfinge, Soberano Jr.LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:22. Esfinge replaced Titan (not back from hand injury?) Rudos won in straight falls.
4) Atlantis, David Finlay, Hijo de LA Park b La Bestia Del Ring, Okumura, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:40. La Bestia del Ring replaced Hechicero (moved up). Okumura replaced Shocker. Rudos took 2/3.
5) LA Park, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Hechicero, The Chris LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:40. Hechicero moved up to replace Ciber on Friday. Tecnicos took 1/3.
18:44. UG took falls 1/3 to win.

This match had more good matches than last week’s iPPV. 3, 5, and 6 are worth watching, depending on your feelings of the performers involved. Ultimo Guerrero put on a legendary Ultimo Guerrero performance.

CMLL posted promos from Ultimo Guerrero and Michael Elgin. Elgin expressed a desire to return to Mexico again soon in an interview with +Lucha, while Ultimo Guerrero declared Elgin his #1 rival.

CMLL announced the Dia de los Muertos schedule for this year. Themed shows will take place on November 2nd (Friday), 4th (Sunday), and 6th (Tuesday.) If CMLL is running the Cl4n/Guerreros cage match soon, the 11/02 date would make the most sense. They seem to have moved away from that feud again, so perhaps it won’t be happening for now. The Sunday Dia de Muertos show is sometimes streamed as a bonus.

CMLL’s #8 Blue Panther moment was the draw finish between him and Negro Casas in their 2012 hair match.

The Gran Prix is now up for free on CMLL’s YouTube channel. Giving away an iPPV after a week is probably fine; 95% of the people who were going to pay to see it have already seen it, and they never said it’d be pay-only forever. It would’ve been good to tell people that’s what was happening though. CMLL is not good at explaining things, and weird enough to still be promoting Honor Club having this show while they’re putting up for free. I am going to be good at explaining things in this sentence: you don’t really need to watch that show.

Fuego complained about his lack of opportunities to El Grafico, but also to +LuchaTV. This was probably all from the same media event, though it does make me wonder why they even had Fuego out there for media.  Usually, they have some who’s got something going on or has something they want to promote – Avispa Dorada was part of this session to introduce herself, Shocker & Bucanero are still trying to get over their group. Fuego ended up talking about having nothing to talk about. You’d think a CMLL PR person would’ve been standing just off screen and told Fuego to cut it out after the first interview, but then you’d think they wouldn’t put him in that position to begin with.

Space’s lucha libre themed drama “Por La Mascara” debuts tomorrow night. It’s Space’s first TV show, and it’s obviously an attempt to keep the audience they’ve (theoretically) built with AAA this year around their show. That strategy makes sense but hasn’t always been successful in the US. That article mentions Space reaches 17 million homes, which is about 1/3rd of Mexico.

R de Rudo’s El Hacker column claims wrestlers for the PALL affiliated promotions are being asked to only work for the affiliated promotion in that town. The example they give is if a wrestler wants to work in Monterrey, it has to be for MDA, or they have to get permission. If they do not, they’re not eligible for the social security payments in case of injury. My hunch is this is not going to mean much, that most wrestlers are going to be too skeptical agree to be PALL-exclusive until they see with their own eyes that those benefits are actually going to be paid.

R de Rudo also points out a Box Y Lucha interview, where Natsumi explains she’s not going to take on the “Apache” surname until she is as good a wrestler as he mother (Mary Apache) and grandfather (El Apache.) That may take a while. That may take anyone quite a while.


CMLL (FRI) 10/19/2018 Arena México
Blue Panther 40th Anniversary
1) Pegasso & Stigma vs Cancerbero & El Coyote
2) Diamante Azul, Mistico, Valiente vs Dark Magic, Felino, Negro Casas
3) Ángel de Oro, Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Espanto Jr., Luciferno, Misterioso Jr., Templario [Copa Halcon Suriano]
4) Black Warrior, Blue Panther, Euforia, Panterita del Ring vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
5) Carístico, David Finlay, Penta 0M vs Cavernario, Rush, Terrible

Prices are slightly up for the Blue Panther Anniversary show. Penta is back, and maybe a tecnico now. Him teaming with Caristico seems like a setup, since they were feuding here until it gets dropped. I haven’t checked Penta’s schedule, but I wonder if he might be free to finally do that singles match with Caristico on one of the Dia de Muertos shows.

CMLL on Marca: 2018-10-12

Ultimo Guerrero, for your consideration

Recapped: 10/12/2018


Akuma & Camorra beat Robin & Star Jr.
(13:07 [5:42, 3:18, 4:07], 1/3, below average, 00:01:25)

Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis beat Avispa Dorada, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit
(14:45 [7:21, 3:19, 4:05], 1/3, ok, 00:22:47)

Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Templario beat Audaz, Esfinge, Soberano Jr.  
(12:22 [4:57, 7:25], 1/2, good, 00:48:23)

La Bestia Del Ring, Rey Bucanero, Okumura beat Atlantis, David Finlay, Hijo de LA Park
(11:33 [5:32, 2:18, 3:43], 2/3, below average, 01:09:24 )

LA Park, Mistico, Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Hechicero, The Chris
(15:40 [5:48, 4:52, 5:00], 1/3, great, 01:33:29 )

Último Guerrero beat Michael Elgin
(18:44, 1/3, great, 02:02:06)

  1. Pulpo Guerrero (5:58)
  2. Michael Elgin powerbomb (2:36)
  3. Guerrero Special (10:10)

What happened:

After he lost wrestling as a rudo, Michael Elgin turned back técnico. He told the crowd he loved Mexico and respected Último Guerrero.

Okumura replaced Shocker in the fourth match.

Rudos won clean in the third match for no particular reason. That seems to be a second men’s match pattern now.


LA Park

Michael Elgin versus Último Guerrero will be talked about as one of the best matches of the year in Mexico. It had strong action, with the two working together like they’d wrestled a hundred matches. It had Elgin looking strong and powerful at every opportunity, laying it into Último Guerrero on chops and clotheslines. Other people on this show looked impressive too – if you want spectacular looking offense, this is a good show for you. What broke this match out was Último Guerrero’s epic performance. Último Guerrero has spent most of his career as a powerful, skilled and dangerous rudo. He’s been pretty great at it. Somehow, someway, Último Guerrero is even better the exact opposite role, at being a sympathetic underdog. UG reacted to every blow, fought thru the beatings, crawled on his hands and knees to get show he was refusing to give up even while he was totally overmatched. The nominal top rudo in the promotion is better at showing a tecnico’s fighting heart than most of the técnicos. It’s crazy he’s so good at something isn’t really his part most of the time. Elgin helped too, mocking Último and demonstrating rudo qualities much more than he had the rest of this tour. He did a great job of being the big obstacle UG had to keep fighting back against. This could’ve gone down just like something the two people in the match were interested in finding out who was better, but they told a great story that made sure the entire crowd was sucked in. This was an all-time Último Guerrero match.

I have small quibbles with Elgin’s style, though even then I think he was better than usual. I can’t find in myself to give it an excellent, which probably means it’s the elephant in the room. At the same time, I think that if there was a vote among Mexican CMLL fans about the best match of the year, this match would beat even the LA Park/Rush match.

the future of CMLL

The semi-main was outstanding trios match when it was going strong, and it was going strong for a lot of the way. The Mistico toss sequence both were executed well, but also looked great, with the overhead camera being utilized well for once. The bit of Mistico & Hechicero trying to wrestle with unceasing interruptions in the first fall gave a different feeling to this match, and the match stayed feeling different from the usual CMLL match the rest of the way. It also allowed LA Park to interact and react to Mistico, and he’s so good at the little things like that. This match overcame an amazingly terrible triple suplex spot early to look really good later, with the third fall particularly going really well. Cavernario came off as more serious than usual, and Hechicero fit in well with the main event guys. LA Park looked like he was having more fun than any other non-Rush match here too.

The fourth match couldn’t follow the match which preceded it. It also wasn’t good by any other standard. Bestia del Ring treated the world to his usual batch of physical and mental mistakes. Bestia not being able to hold up light Hijo de LA Park on a running powerbomb was amazing. Finlay continues to show nothing interesting, though he hasn’t been in a good scenario on Friday night yet. Rey Bucanero & Okumura weren’t on the level of the rudos who Hijo de LA Park usually wrestlers with CMLL and his performance was less impressive as a result. An easy match to skip.

not safe for all audiences

The tercera was a great exciting showcase for the técnicos, who also somehow lost in straight falls. I have no idea why we’re getting so many rudo two fall wins, but at least this one was fun getting there. Audaz looked very impressive, and he did it while barely working with Templario. He was getting around the ropes and onto his opponents with ease no matter who he was facing. That meant Templario worked a lot with Soberano, and that turned out to have strong chemistry. Soberano worked pretty hard for a guy who’s about to head to Japan for weeks, pulling off a nice tornillo at the end. I hope he and Templario get to a title match at some point. Even Esfinge was good when he was annoying, and the other rudos contributed. The only thing holding this back from being a great match was a bit more time.

The women’s match was the usual not much match. It was something I wasn’t really interested in beforehand and they didn’t do much to change my mind. Avispa Dorada got to her dive but not much more. I was worried they were going to freeze her out after getting over last week, but Dalys did give her a little bit of time in the third fall. Jarochita looked off a lot. Dalys tried hard, seemingly because she was getting her win back this week.


Robin was the only one in the opener who looked like a possible good wrestler. Star Jr. normally is one but was off often on offense. His second fall moonsault was so not close to hitting that CMLL actually held off showing the replay. He really needed to have the awareness to realize his mistake and add in another move there. Akuma sometimes is but didn’t have a good night as a base. Camorra never is good and lived up those expectations, blowing the setup to his finish and then struggling to get Robin from the ropes.

1930s Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

I added 1930s lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio to the luchadb database in the last few days. This covers every year from 1930 to 1939. They’re integrated into the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. The project is done! I can move onto other equally futile endeavors.

Really, it’s all done. I couldn’t find a reference of lucha libre prior to 1934. The Guadalajara newspaper had lucha libre mentions pre-Salvador Lutteroth. Torreon didn’t get it until a few months after EMLL was founded, or at least it didn’t come up. The lineups resemble the cards of the early days in Mexico City in style if not the same talent, with just one or two singles matches on early cards. It starts to expand to about four matches with the occasional tag match or battle royal by the end of the decade. With no more than 8 people per show, it was quicker to go thru a month of lineups than it is to do one card today, so this was quick to finish.

Shows added by year that include some link to El Siglo de Torreon

193X  255
194X  414
195X  979
196X  133
197X  268
198X 1169
199X 1730
200X 1575
201X   23
     6546 events total

This was very much a still figuring out how lucha libre worked period. There are only a couple title matches, there were no real apuesta matches, the shows are in venues which would quickly disappear. The posters would show up more days in advance than later years, probably because there was more space needing to be filled.

There also isn’t much news on lucha libre outside of lineups and results. There are occasional stories about lucha libre in Mexico City and the odd wire story from New York slips through. Even in the 1930s, there were recaps of shows complaining about how silly things had become.

I got a lot of lineups in this project. I didn’t get many results, but the lineups alone were helpful in getting a sense of what lucha libre looked like in Torreon and Gomez Palacio during different points of time. This has always been a busy area for lucha libre, and the newspapers gave indications when the business was going up and down. I felt like I learned some, and also learned that I, even more, wish there was a public newspaper archive like this for a Mexico City or Monterrey paper that covered lucha libre. I do have plenty of magazines which did so, and I should go back to figuring those out.

Elgin/UG headlines Arena Mexico, Fuego steamed about lack of chances, AAA/ELITE

Michael Elgin and Ultimo Guerrero meet tonight in the main event of Arena Mexico’s show. Elgin beat Guerrero last week. They before in 2016, which CMLL aired as a $1 live PPV. That match was very good and won by Ultimo Guerrero, and I suspect the same will happen tonight.

Ultimo Guerrero’s next feud should be his previous feud with CL4N, but the CL4N seems to be vanishing. Scharly Rockstar was not around last week. Ciber the Main Man was listed on this week’s show, and later replaced by Hechicero. The Chris is the only member left standing. He seemed to be doing the best of the three, so there’s some hope for him, Hechiceor and Cavernario facing Mistico, Volador, and LA Park. Park seemed annoyed with Ciber’s performance last week, and that’s a plausible reason why CMLL might not put them in the same ring again.

Atlantis, David Finlay, and Hijo de LA Park take on Shocker, Rey Bucanero and La Bestia del Ring, which doesn’t seem a good mix of wrestlers. Titan was at one time scheduled in the third match but was quietly replaced by Esfinge there. That suggests Titan hasn’t yet been cleared to return. Soberano & Audaz will instead team with Esfinge against the Revolucionarios and Templario.

The women’s match is a virtual rematch of last week. Amapola steps in for La Metalica, teaming with Reyna Isis & Dalys against Marcela, La Jarochita and Avispa Dorada. The opener is similar to last week’s show too, just with two last people. Robin & Star Jr. team this time around, against Akuma & Camorra. That match last week teased a Signo/Camorra feud, which was awful. Perhaps Camorra will try feuding with someone better.

(Sidebar: Ovaciones has Bestia in semimain and Hechicero in the fourth. I wonder if that was a plan at some point until they decided to stick with the “no fathers versus sons” rule.)

CMLL is back to being on Marca on Friday nights for the foreseeable future. You can watch them on their website (currently regionblocked) and on Facebook (no link up yet.) I’ll be streaming on YouTube.

Lucha Central has a preview of the show.

The article of the day is in El Grafico, where Fuego complains strongly about never being given a chance in CMLL. Fuego wants matches against the likes of Terrible, Hechicero or Cavernario and isn’t getting them. Fuego feels he has the ability to wrestle those guys but hasn’t been the opportunities while others have gotten them. Fuego argues that he’s had chances to wrestle top wrestlers in Japan (Ricochet, Lyger, and Tanahashi mentioned) but not in his home country and can’t understand it. Fuego says this is his goal for 2019. If he can’t achieve that, he will have “grab my bags and leave” – he doesn’t want to be stuck in the position he’s in forever.

This was all from an interview in Arena Mexico. There’s video of it here. It was probably set up by CMLL, since it came out on the usual interview schedule If this was any other promotion, it’d seem like a setup for some sort of angle. It is strange that Fuego was hyped last month as one of the guys who are the future of CMLL and now is a guy who doesn’t seem a future in CMLL, but that first list never made any sense. Fuego probably should be moved up, but I’m also not sure I believe his threat. Guys who threaten to leave are usually not that interested in actually leaving, they’re just desperate for something to change so they can comfortably stay. I think Puma King had the same sort of complaints, and he just started exploring his options instead of making his comments publically known. I will believe Fuego is really thinking about leaving when he starts to take bookings outside of the CMLL sphere.

The timing of Fuego’s complaint might be related to the FantasticaMania details being revealed. A press release says CMLL will be sending 20 luchadors, which is the same number that were scheduled last year. Here’s last year’s 20:

Atlantis, Místico, Volador Jr., Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Ángel de Oro,, Soberano Jr., Fuego, Drone, Star Jr., Rush, Último Guerrero, Negro Casas, Gran Guerrero, Bárbaro Cavernario, Sansón, Cuatrero, Okumura, Puma, Disturbio

There are some obvious people who won’t be back. I think we can be pretty sure Drone will not be making a return trip. Puma’s left. Disturbio and Star Jr. are the rotating midcard spots. Atlantis is on every one of these but this would be the year to skip if he’s ever going to skip it – he probably should wait to go back until Atlantis Jr. is ready to go with him. Negro Casas could’ve skipped, but he ended up missing these shows and so he’s got to be a lock for this year. Dragon Lee will probably be back by then (though maybe not by next month when they announce the names.)

Drone, Puma, Disturbio, Star Jr. and Atlantis off would be five open spots. Forastero, Audaz, and Templario are strong bets to make their debuts. There will probably be one early match tecnico and one early match rudo rewarded with a spot – let’s say it’s Robin & Akuma to pick names. If CMLL wants to add anyone else – perhaps Flye, since he won the Gran Alternativa, or Kraneo since he’s been pushed hard – then you have to start bumping off guys like Angel de Oro, Niebla Roja or Fuego. Perhaps Fuego found out he got bumped off and that triggered his rant. I don’t know, but the timing matches up.

Reporte Indigo has an interview with Avispa Dorada, happy to be living her dream of wrestling in Mexico. Like Costa Rica’s Sonya, Avispa mentions she mostly wrestled men in her home country because there were no luchadoras to face.

CMLL starts a look back at the top 10 moments of Blue Panther’s career, starting with being the first middleweight champion and training Halcon Suriano.

CMLL has a new video up promoting classes. Virus is teaching Tuesdays & Thursdays, Ultimo Dragoncito is teaching Mondays & Thursday, Hijo del Gladiador is teaching Monday, Thursday and Saturday and Tony Salazar is teaching Monday & Thursday. That’s a lot of classes on Thursday.

AAA said they won the AAA vs ELITE show in Aguascalientes. You can see a sliver of the Aerostar & Drago vs Flamita & Bandido on Facebook.

AAA posted Yo Soy Parka Negra. It is good but I would’ve liked it better if he just totally refused to break character the entire bit.

Ni Tu, Ni Yo, the new lucha libre movie including AAA wrestlers, opens in Mexico today. The lead characer in the movie is Halcon Negro, so they had a luchador who uses that name as part of the red carpet.

Bandido is being hyped as appearing in Australia at the end of November, which is odd since he’s also seemingly supposed to be in Dragon Gate at that time.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report, including a recap of Puma King’s interview with +Lucha and lots of Ultimo Guerrero on Informa.

The Gladiatores has an interview with Gilbert el Boricua.

+LuchaTV has the latest edition of Aqui esta la Lucha.