02/06 AAA TV Results (Cuautitlán)

AAA TV (SAT) 02/06/2016 Auditorio Bentio Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estado de México [AAA]
1) Lanzeloth, Mini Charly Manson, Mini Psycho Clown b Dinastía, Mascarita Sagrada, Octagoncito
Lanzeloth filled in for Mini Abismo. Charly beat Sagrada with a package piledriver.
2) Australian Suicide & Fireball DQ Parka Negra & Súper Fly
Parka Negra replaced Daga. Tecnicos won by DQ when Daga ran in anyway and threw a chair at Suicide’s head, cutting him open.
3) Aerostar, Drago, Fénix b Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
Tecnicos won and asked for a trios title shot. Zorro said no (no no)
4) Daga & Taya b Bengala & Faby Apache and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Lady Shani [AAA MIXED TAG, #1 Contenders]
In a segment at the start of the show, Daga announced he’d be replacing Fantasma (injury). Pentagon interrupted, unhappy fellow Perros del Mal were coming for his title and promising not to take it easy on them should they won. They did: Faby beat Shani, and Daga submitted Bengala to the metaleon for the win. They face Pentagon & Sexy Star (at least that’s how AAA announced it) on 02/19.
5) Averno & Chessman b Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr.
In a surprise, Averno & Chessman defeated Pentagon. Pentagon & Lider had problems after the match.
6) Blue Demon Jr. b Dr. Wagner Jr., Garza Jr., Taurus [Rey de Reyes, semifinal]
Wagner appeared in the opening segment to take issue with Pentagon Jr’s claim he’d win Rey de Reyes. Psycho Clown interrupted him, not to talk about Rey de Reyes, but to demand a singles match with Wagner tonight after Wagner cost them the match in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera. Wagner declined, saying he already had this match. Psycho Clown joined the announcers for this match instead. Taurus eliminated Garza Jr., Wagner beat Taurus, and Blue Demon Jr. beat Wagner after Wagner hit everyone with a chair, Psycho hit Wagner with a chair, and Demon gave Wagner Devil’s Wings for the win.

Air Date: 02/13 & 02/20

Blue Demon’s back, so Blue Demon wins. The finish sounds a lot like the finish on Guerra de Titanes, where Dr. Wagner gets the certain visual win before losing the match. It’s the finishes that happen when you bring in Dr. Wagner. It’s the problem with this Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner feud they’re trying – either Psycho will just lose the Latin American title to Wagner, or Wagner will lose in a way that won’t mean much. It’s what’s he’s been doing for a decade. Demon’s pretty much the same, and Taurus taking his first pinfall to one of them illustrates the change in philosophies happening right now.

Anyway, it does start to give us a Rey de Reyes card.

03/11 Tampico

  • Texano Jr. vs Mesias for the AAA Heavyweight Championship – lock
  • Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Psycho Clown for the AAA Latin American Championship – likely, maybe actual main event
  • Aerostar, Drago, Fenix vs Zorro, Cuervo, Scoria for the AAA Trios championship – likely
  • Rey de Reyes final (Demon vs other 3 block winners) – lock
  • probably something with Suicide and Daga
  • probably a mixed match

That’s six, so it might be it. The recap implies the trios title challenge is a follow up of that same trio winning the CHIKARA King of Trios back in September. That match sounded like it went well last night and should be good on the show.

It doesn’t look the tag title match is on at the moment with Lider & Pentagon losing and having issues. It’s not exactly my favorite use of Pentagon to have him losing in those matches, but anything that pulls him away from Lider can’t be all bad.

Suicide got sliced open in the head by Daga’s chair shot, which looked a bit reckless on video. You don’t need to throw the chair that hard from that close.

Taya & Daga were announced as facing Pentagon & Sexy Star at the Queretaro show, so either that’s still the plan or they haven’t coming up with a new one. When all the stuff was going on with Sexy Star giving up her title, Taya posted a message of five laughing emojis. That’s another Twitter post that’s been deleted. It sure seems like Sexy Star was told she was losing the tag titles to Taya and her partner and was very unhappy about it. (It may be about Taya, but it also may just be Sexy not liking the idea of losing to anyone – like Demon & Wagner, that’s not something she’s done a lot.) Whatever it is, AAA’s still advertising the match – though they were still advertising Fantasma at this show and didn’t say anything until it started.

PW Insider says Konnan was at the taping.  It’s strange he wasn’t in the Sociedad segment to start the show, which had a hole without Fantasma being around. (Maybe the story they’re telling is the breakup happened because Fantasma and Konnan weren’t around to fix it?) Konnan hasn’t said anything on Twitter since promising that press conference. The creative changes without him are being more apparent – the signature booking trope of the prior era, strong giant rudo stables, seem to be going away. La Sociedad lost three members on the first taping, this tapings had two different moments suggesting the Perros del Mal were breaking up. They’ve gone down the road and turned around before  – the last time Lanzeloth made TV also had Joquin Roldan ending La Sociedad forever three years ago – but everything else makes it feel like it may take this time.

That PWInsider article brings up the Mysterio situation and more money issues. The reports says AAA wrestlers who worked in Lucha Underground were paid thru AAA, with AAA taking a cut of their money. (This is similar to how AAA works with most outside promoters.) PWInsider says AAA was taking a “sizable” cut. For season 2, Lucha Underground started paying the AAA luchadors directly, but AAA has been pressuring those luchadors to kickback the same cut to AAA. The AAA/LU crew see it as their money they shouldn’t have to give back. It’s enough that those affected are thinking of leaving AAA, only the concern is they’d lose their Lucha Underground spots – everyone loves Lucha Underground, there’s no problem there.

The report doesn’t say those leaving AAA would go to Elite, but Elite’s been going after everyone in AAA already and are the obvious alternative location.

PWInsider says AAA has ownership points in Lucha Underground, but not creative control. That seems apparent from the different products they present, but it does appear AAA has at least some input over who gets brought in from their side; there’s people debuting in season 2 who are only doing so after agreeing to work with AAA. AAA’s not going to be able to job someone out in LU for not paying them, but the concern about not being able to work LU without AAA seems very legitimate.

It does feel a bit like something’s going to break soon – but if you hadn’t know there was drama behind the scenes, last night’s taping seems a normal build to a PPV.

 

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Dorada returns to Arena Mexico with a win, TDN, Rey outside of AAA, AAA in Cuautitlán

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CMLL (FRI) 02/05/2016 Arena México [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Astral & Eléctrico b Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Olímpico
14:29. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit
11:33. Rudos took 2/3.
3) Boby Z b Stuka Jr. [lightning]
6:29. Zavala won with a kick following a powerbomb.
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Titán b Luciferno, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
13:32. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy b Kamaitachi, Terrible, Último Guerrero
10:29. Tecnicos took 2/3. Lee beat Kamaitachi as part of the finish, but did not issue a title challenge (yet)
6) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Mephisto, Negro Casas
8:30. Tecnicos took 1/3. Casas faked a foul to draw the DQ in the second, and Volador actually fouled him and got away with it to take the the third. Volador challenged for a hair match again, Casas walked out again.

Not advancement in any feud – Casas & Volador are in a holding pattern and Dragon Lee/Kamaitachi weren’t even that – and no must watch match for me, but an enjoyable Friday night show from top to bottom. CMLL had a bigger than usual crowd and they were very into the show, which helped a bit. It’s not clear why the crowd was up; Dorada’s return was the only notable thing on the show, but the crowd din’t particularly react to him (and there were other people who seemed more over.)

This might have been the first TDN taping, but I’m curious about that whole show now. There are TV listings out now for February 14th, when the show is first supposed to air, and there’s no CMLL show listed. There is a sports magazine show doing a hour on lucha libre. I believe that’s a repeat of something that’s aired before, but maybe it’s not and maybe TDN was just filming footage for that show and not planning on airing a weekly show? That would be a very uninteresting outcome. It could just be the schedule is wrong.

Next Friday’s show is still listed as airing ClaroSports.com. It’s always a week by week thing, but there was no sign it was going away any time soon last night.

AAA has a TV taping tonight in Cuautitlán. It’s an interesting card. The main event is Rey de Reyes qualifier which doesn’t look especially good (Wagner, Demon, Garza and Taurus) but will probably tell us a lot about what that show is going to look like.  There’s a three way tag match where no one’s quite sure what’s on the line, but it should be a good match given the people involved. The three opening matches all have great promise as well.

No one’s really talking about the lineup today! It’s all about the latest drama with AAA. Pro Wrestling Sheet reported Rey Misterio is out of AAA because they haven’t paid him for all the dates he was working for them. It reads like a dispute over which dates Rey is getting for: Rey is saying the contract calls for him to be paid for every day he’s with AAA and not home, and the implication is AAA has decided some of those days don’t count. The WON had been saying for a while that there was a money issue between AAA and Rey, and money issues are never about being paid too much. AAA hasn’t said anything about this.

The Pro Wrestling Sheet leaves it as an open question if Rey will be returning. From watching AAA, it definitely seems like they’re moving on with no expectation of him (and Mundo and others) being brought back any time soon. Rey’s last appearance in AAA was being helped from the ring in Arena Neza in December. It’d be a shame if that was his last appearance in AAA, but it seems like it might be the case unless the issues get fixed.

Lucha Underground is a separate entity and would not be directly affected by Rey’s issues with AAA. However, we know he’s also had problems with them (over being able to do the Combate Americas appearances), there was never any public mention of the length of his contract, and whatever issues he’s having might allow him to get out early similar to Alberto. My hunch is Rey’s going to end up back with the WWE on a part time schedule as soon as he’s legally allowed to make that deal.

Edit: The WON reported Rey Mysterio has a two year contract with Lucha Underground. (Which is strange, given everyone else has been said to have a Season based contract.)

In a possibly related development, Konnan announced on Twitter last night that he’d soon have a press conference, teasing AAA revelations. It’s an easy guess that Konnan’s about just as upset about Rey not getting paid as Rey is, though it’s not clear if it’s about that or something else.

Sexy Star ended up deleting her Twitter message saying she was giving up the AAA Mixed Tag Titles. No idea if that means she’s going thru with the program.

Chessman says Joe Lider & Pentagon must defeat Averno & himself to get a title shot. That match is happening today. I wonder what will happen.

This week’s AAA TV confirmed Rey de Reyes is March 11 in Tampico.

Rossy Moreno says she was surprised to be invited back to Arena Mexico and thought her brought Oriental was playing a joke when he told her Elite wanted to bring her in. She’s proud to be back this Sunday after 20 some years (even she doesn’t seem to know when she last wrestled there) and hopes her entire family will soon be back.

Hijo del Santo annually makes a trip to his father’s grave on the day of his passing, and follows with a few words to the press. It didn’t seem too newsworthy this year, but Hijo del Santo did say he would be open to returning to Arena Mexico if the people wanted. If Hijo del Santo is really going to retire this year, and Elite is going to continue running Sunday shows with whomever they want, it seems like an easy decision. It’s never easy with Hijo del Santo.

Eric Mutter writes about el Santo.

Chairo 3 (03/06, Arena Naucalpan, Chairo Kingdom) card so far
Mascara Dorada vs Extreme Tiger, falls count anywhere
Super Muneco vs Maximo
Atlantis vs Caifan
Hijo del Solar vs Solar – new

ChilangaMask (03/20, Coliseo Coacalco) 3rd Anniversary card so far
Los Caifanes vs Los Traumas
Tigre Universitario vs Jeque
Makabre, Shiryu Dragon vs Wotan, Impulso
Raymond Rowe & Matt Cross will appear
El Sagrado & Sangre Fri & Dorado Jr. vs Aero Boy & Fulgor I & Fulgor II
Hijo del Angel, Fly Warrior, Emperador Azteca, Metaleon, Psycho Kid, Astro, Fly Star, Freelance, Mike Segura in Aerial Assualt – new

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

AAA posted the second half of Guerra de Titanes last night. This is the show airing this afternoon.

Segunda Caida wrote about Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro vs Trauma I, Trauma II, Ultramán Jr.

Lineups

IWRG (WED) 02/10/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Osiris vs Aramis
2) Fireman & Galaxy vs Acero & Troll
3) Dragón Fly, Freyzer, Kanon vs Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Picudo Jr.
4) Emperador Azteca, Pantera I, Veneno vs Oficial AK47, Violencia Jr., X-Fly
5) Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Canis Lupus, Eterno

The main feud takes the main event. AK47 back for the first time since November.

CMLL (FRI) 02/12/2016 Arena México
1) Bengala & Robin vs Espiritu Negro & Inquisidor
2) Fuego, The Panther, Tritón vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
3) Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., La Máscara vs Boby Z, Hechicero, Kamaitachi
4) Valiente vs Euforia [lightning]
5) Marco Corleone, Rush, Thunder vs Cibernético, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Negro Casas

Main event is a rematch from last night, keeping Volador/Casas going.

There’s no real reason Rush & Marco should be teaming with Thunder, except CMLL got tired of booking Dragon Rojo & Polvora in that match every week. Cibernetico versus Thunder would be epic lucha libre action, a true treat for fans of mat wrestling.

Second and third matches seem like they could be quite good.

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CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-02-05 

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Recapped: 02/05/2016

What happened:  Volador cheated to defeat Negro Casas after Casas had done the same. Volador still wants that hair match, but Casas refuses to even discuss it.

Mascara Dorada made his first appearance in Arena Mexico in a year.

Kamaitachi also returned, losing again to Dragon Lee in the semimain. No title match was teased.

What was good: Most of the card. The first couple matches didn’t quite make the cut for me, but weren’t that far off and everything else was enjoyable. There’s no MOTYC on this show but it was one of the better Arena Mexico shows from top to bottom in a while.

Where can I watch it: It’ll be up on my YouTube channel on Tuesday and the main event is up on Claro’s site
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Sexy Star gives up her title, Raijin & Fujin debut in loss, CMLL on Claro tonight

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CMLL (TUE) 02/02/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Akuma & Bengala COR Demonio Rojo & Mr. Trueno
Akuma was listed a surprise tecnico, though he was there in the original poster and not a sub. Tecnicos took 2/3, the last when Trueno couldn’t return after an Akuma tope.
2) Mercurio, Pierrothito, Relampago b Cosmos, Shockercito, Stukita
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
Tecnicos took 1/3, Stuka beating Okumura. Debuts for Fujin and Raijin.
4) Rush b Kráneo
Rush beat Kraneo (and Mije), taking falls 2/3 clean.
5) Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. DQ Ephesto, Euforia, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 1/3. Rudos dominated the first fall, but Maximo snuck in a kiss on Euforia to set up the win. Euforia fouled Maximo in the third.

Maximo & Euforia are matched up again this week, so that might be a program. Really hope Rush/Kraneo turns up. Really hope Mije is still in one piece.

Mascara Dorada’s return tour comes to Arena Mexico tonight. He teams with Mistico & Volador against Cavernario, Mephisto and Negro Casas. That match should continue the Casas/Volador issues. Volador was teasing a big surprise, while Casas had Puma & Tiger helping him out last week – neither seems involved this week, but perhaps there will be something notable at the end of the show. Dragon Lee and Kamaitachi are back at in the semimain, with Maximo, Marco, Terrible and Ultimo Guerrero rounding on the trios. The rest of the card looks solid if not extraordinary. There’s no Thunder, thankfully. There’s five Fridays after this show and before Dos Leyendas, and things will probably be advancing towards the matches for that show.

This show will air on Clarosports.com at 8:30pm CT. CMLL was previously airing their Friday shows on about a week delay. If that’s still the plan, this is the first TDN show (and then it’s a good sign it’s still airing on the internet as far as that is concerned.)

So, as one does late night on Twitter, Sexy Star relinquished the AAA Mixed Tag Team Championship. Let me try translating:

“I renounce the [Mixed Tag Championship], to me it’s worthless, I’ve had it for so many years and never have defended it, the only result is mismatched pairs will fight in an eliminator to face Pentagon and me, I’m not interested in this belt, so I will not fight anyone to defend it, I’ll gift it, end statement.”

Sexy Star later emphasized that she’s not quitting AAA. Pentagon Jr. posted a message last night along the lines of “I’ll still defend it!” and then deleted it soon after. AAA hasn’t said anything about this publicly.

The mixed tag title was supposed to be part of the two AAA TV tapings this month. The eliminator on Saturday has Fantasma & Taya vs Bengala & Fabi vs Shani & Pirata, and the winner would have faced on February 19th. The most likely outcome is Sexy Star is going to do exactly what she says, and hand over the titles to the winners – that’s about what AAA just did with the men’s tag titles.

Sexy Star’s statement doesn’t make complete sense: she seems upset they’ve never done anything with the belt but, now that they want to do something with the belt, she even more upset now and wants nothing to do with it. We don’t know that Sexy Star & Pentagon Jr. were going to lose the championships on the 19th, but that’s definitely the implication from this: Sexy was aware she was going to lose, she didn’t want to, maybe she’s even annoyed about never getting that chance to do something with the titles, and so she’ll give up the title rather take loss on screen.

If I was AAA (and assuming this isn’t some weird shoot angle), I’d be very upset with Sexy Star for airing her issues in this unprofessional manner and messing up the next two weeks of TV, to the point of wondering if this is a person you can put in any more storylines if she’s just going to blow them up. I’m not sure the actual loss was going to be that meaningful – Averno or Chessman costing Pentagon the match to build the other tag title match is the most likely AAA result and there are other ways to accomplish that – but the relationship between AAA & Sexy Star has some serious problems for this to be aired publicly.

Sexy Star is 100% correct that the AAA mixed tag belt has no value. AAA is and has done a terrible job with all their championships. They exist as something to fill out the card if they have room, but it’s nothing anyone talks about trying to win or seems concerned about when those rare title programs aren’t happening. Four of them (Mega/Heavyweight, trios, tag, mixed tag) now have had the champions giving the belts up in recent months. Taya defended her title last four months ago, which is pretty good for an AAA title. Psycho Clown won his belt in August and hasn’t ever defended it. Fantasma hasn’t defended the cruiserweight title on TV since last March, and they’ve started and stopped title feuds for it at least twice. Those three are all people AAA seems to like and wants to feature, but there’s no energy being put into the championship belts they have.

Maybe she eventually is? If Elite talked to La Jarochita about jumping from AAA, they must have talked to literally every single person in AAA. But I don’t think that’s necessarily the issue here. There’s clearly some level of turmoil going on in AAA. Konnan being removed as booker told us that (and Konnan supported Sexy Star’s decision on Twitter.) Creative changes usually led to different people being featured, and unhappiness when those changes are made. There are hints of issues beyond that going on as well, and some new level of unhappiness within AAA at on it. Sexy Star might have just been the first one act on her feelings publicly, and this seems like it may have just been the tip of an iceberg.

Elite had a show last night in Xalapa that seemed to have filled the ArenaOctagon was honored by the local government earlier in the day.

Today’s the 32nd Anniversary of El Santo’s death.

The LA Times has a nice article about Lucha Underground. There are spoilers (or at least there are if you know what to look for) and Vampiro makes an appearance as unidentified man in black. Of note, it’s said their most viewed show had 250,000 viewers. No El Rey airing has ever reached that number. Is that a El Rey + Unimas number? Is that just Unimas? (Both would suggest the Unimas viewership was lower than figured; the guess was 250-300K as an average not a peak.) Is that – like calling AAA “Asistencia Asesoria y Administracion” – just something randomly plucked from the internet? I dunno.

Magno has been released from his WWE/NXT deal. He always seemed like a long shot given his age, and there was the weirdness of him wrestling under his mask while they were announcing him under what appeared to be his real name. He rarely was used on their live events, only turning up recently after being there for months. WWE seems to have a “half Noah” policy where they only one of each variety of diversity in NXT at a time, so Sombra coming aboard probably was the beginning of the end for Magno. He’ll probably resume main eventing shows in Ciudad Juarez should be want to continue wrestling. (Although, someone else has been using the Magno name there of late.)

This is the stupidly most important story of the day to me: remember when I was posting ancient Guadalajara results, and I was completely confused by this weird match type called relevos uruguayos? It’s a 2v2 match one person being listed as a wild card, but they never explained the rules or why it’s named after Uruguay. Well, Arena Jalisco is running an honest to goodness relevos uruguayos match this weekend! They even explained the rules: whoever wins the first fall gets the wildcard on their team for the next two falls. That makes the first fall really important! I still don’t know why Uruguay but I at least have part of the mystery solved.

LuchaWorld has a detailed recap of this week’s CMLL Informa

03/12 RIOT card so far
Unmexicans vs Compadres Extremos
Alberto Dos Rios vs Psycko Kid
Tony Rodriguez vs Rico Rodriguez
Kratoz vs Kamikaze (ex-Viento Divino)
Arez vs Caifain vs Dralion – new

I’m just now listening to it, but I’ve heard Colt Cabana’s podcast with Jack Evans is really great.

Taya was interviewed by the CBC. It never occurred to me that the northern lights suplex is Canada reference, that’s cool.

Herodes Jr. says he respects Mr. Niebla & Demus, his opponents on a 02/20 show in Gimnasio Hercules, but isn’t scared of them.

Zeuxis talks about her life as a paramedic outside the ring.

Segunda Caida reviews this week’s Lucha Underground. Phil is the only person who thought the same things as I did on this week’s episode.

Rey Misterio Sr. tries to explain the deal with all of the other people who are running around with his name.

PWR has a show in San Francisco on 02/27 with Silver King and Juvi.

 

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lucha TV preview for weekend of February 6th

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This half of AAA has Guerra de Titanes part 2, with Australian Suicide, Fireball, Jack Evans vs Daga, Parka Negra and Super Fly, probably the best match on the show.

Dragon Lee and Kamaitachi are back at it on the Friday Night ClaroSports stream. (That remains still on.)

Azteca has a Caristico vs Rush singles match.

Lucha Underground includes Kobra Moon’s debut. She is not facing a woman.

IWRG may be back to airing two episodes a week; I’ve just got the Sunday one.

That Tuesday CMLL YouTube stream looks so bad.

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Mariachis versus Insoportables, Dos Leyendas, lots of links

IWRG (WED) 02/03/2016 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Alas de Acero & Aramis b Ángel De La Muerte I & Ángel De La Muerte II
2) Dragón Fly, Fireman, Omega b Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Vampiro Metálico
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy b Avisman, Hip Hop Man, Vórtize
4) Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible b Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Hijo del Alebrije, Pantera I
Los Mariachis Locos got another win, but the Insoportables ran out to attack them post match. That led into the main event.
5) Apolo Estrada, Canis Lupus, Eterno b Argos, Emperador Azteca, Pantera I
Canis Lupus is officially part of the Insoportables now. Pantera I was a last second sub for Danny Casas and worked two matches in a row. Rudos took 1/3, the last by Apolo & Eerno cheating Argos. Los Mariachis Locos attacked them post match.

A logical feud set up in IWRG! I wonder what will get changed before they actually have the big match

CMLL held a brief press event yesterday officially announcing Salvador Lutteroth and Lizmark are those honored at Homenaje a Dos Leyendas on March 18th. CMLL’s press release writes Lizmark was under consideration for the honor in other years, and there’s no other option this year. Lizmark was honored as part of a group of past stars in 2010, which would’ve been his last time in rena Mexico.

This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentions Lucha Underground officials met with WWE officials in December “regarding talent”, but it didn’t go anywhere. LU’s Eric Van Wagenen previously mentioned WWE’s Canyon Ceman was an old friend, so I wonder if that’s how it came about. Ceman and HHH were the WWE officials.

+MasLuchaTV has launched a new YouTube, Esto Es Lucha!  It’s a PTI/Around the Horn like discussion show about a different topics. Apolo Valdez and Dhani Ledesma joining Bernado and Jose Manual (and el Monje) to talk about the best show and luchador of 2015 among other topics.

Cara Lucha, who’s been dormant since their New Year’s Day show, announced their next show as February 21, with a tease of DTU participation.

The Queretaro Hurracarrana column says Elite may be running a show in Queretaro in March. As they noted in the column, that’s where the last iteration of Elite crashed and burned after a show fell apart minutes before it was supposed to happen.

Revolution Pro Wrestling announced Ricochet for their April 16 show, which probably rules that weekend out at as a Lucha Underground taping. (Though, the LU story was the wrestlers weren’t told the tape dates yet, so maybe not 100% confirmed.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and extensive picks for the best of 2015.

RobViper has highlights of July 31, 2015 CMLL.

The Tag Rope has an interview with Pentagon Jr. about Lucha Underground.

Proyecto Suplex writes about the lessons learned from maestro matches.

Criterio Hidalgo interviews Ram el Carnero, who debuted in IWRG last year and has been wrestling since 2011. He’s still only 17.

There’s a benefit show for Pato Soria with CMLL luchadors on 02/27 in Mexico City.

Mascara Dorada talks about his time in NJPW and his interest in going to WWE in a video interview with Plantilla Deportiva. He also did a (text) interview with MiedoTiempo. Dorada says his new move is called the Dorada Driver. NJPW seemed to be calling it the Dorada Screwdriver and I’m tempted to stick with it because it’s slightly more colorful.

Espanto Jr. wants to join a faction, hopes to win En Busca de un Idolo in 2016. These are not great ideas.

El Diario de Coahuila has a profile of Monterrey luchador Sergio Romo Jr.

Dia HEARTS, the faction Flamita was most recently aligned with in Dragon Gate, lost a losing unit must disband match today.

The NFL’s Houston Texans and Oakland Raiders are expected to play a game in Estadio Azteca this year. The date has not been announced. That’ll probably bring a good amount of US tourists, which probably means a good weekend for lucha.

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03/04 AAA TV Lineup (Toluca)

03/04 Toluca

AAA TV (FRI) 03/04/2016 Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México
1) Goya Kong, Mascarita Sagrada, Niño Hamburguesa vs El Apache, Mini Psycho Clown, Taya
2) Aerostar & Drago vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Taurus
3) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
4) Pentagón Jr. vs Hijo del Fantasma, Fénix, ? [AAA Rey de Reyes, quarterfinal]
5) El Mesías vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Texano Jr. [bull terrier]

Air Date: 03/12 – probably one week with the opener being left off.

The main event and the tercera feel like Dr. Wagner is suddenly going to be elevated to the main event title match and Psycho’s going back to challenging for the trios titles. Could just be a fakeout. It’d be disappointing to see Psycho relegated, but Wagner versus Texano versus Mesias is a better draw than Texano versus Mesias.

Full Rey de Reyes blocks:
1: Dr. Wagner Jr., Blue Demon Jr., Garza Jr., Taurus (02/06)
2: Villano IV, Electroshock, Chessman, Jack Evans (02/19)
3: La Parka, Psycho Clown, Averno, Zorro (02/19)
4: Pentagon Jr., Hijo del Fantasma, Fenix, ? (03/04)

It’s possible Pentagon and Fantasma will be coming into this match having met in the mixed title match on the previous taping. The mystery man silhouette appears to be Flamita/Fireball again. The Toluca crowd is always great, and that match is a match of the year candidate on paper. Pentagon seems unlikely to advance because he’s got the tag title match. Whoever else wins this block needs to win Rey de Reyes or come very close. AAA needs new top stars and their best candidates are pretty much all in one block.

The segunda also looks very good. I’m wondering if Anarquia might be another one of those storylines that have been dropped with the the creative change, since Hijo del Pirata Morgan has been pulled out of the faction at the times to feud with Electroshock. There seemed to be two different directions for him at once, and it seems an easy guess Konnan was behind the one that had him part of a trio that was having good matches.  Daga is actually pictured on the poster, but not in the match – maybe they were short one tecnico for this one?

Next taping has to be Rey de Reyes. (Which might mean we know the card before we know who’s advanced to the final of the tournament.) Given the SLP taping on the 23rd and when AAA will need TV, Rey de Reyes is March 13th if they run on a Sunday night as usual for a big show.

Edit: RobViper reminds me Drago, Fenix and Pentagon are already booked in Atlantis on 03/13. Maybe it’s Friday the 11th? The Tampico promoters, the people who were originally going to have Guerra de Titanes, had that show scheduled on a Friday. They hinted they were getting Rey de Reyes as a makeup, and promoters usually schedule on a certain day of the week.

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Lucha Underground 2×2: The Dark and The Mysterious

the matches

best sequence of Killshot’s night

Johnny Mundo defeated Killshot (Fin de Mundo, 4:23, OK)
the Mack defeated PJ Black (Stunner counter, 6:45, OK)
Prince Puma & Pentagon Jr. [O] defeated the Disciples of Death (Siniestro de la Muerte, Barrio Negro, Trece [X]) (Puma 630 senton with Pentagon stealing the pin, 7:36, good)

the developments

The main plot followed up on the events from last week. Puma & Pentagon Jr. were paired up in two versus three handicap match. In the locker room, Pentagon thanked Puma for assist in helping him break Mil Muertes arm last week, hoped Puma would do the same with the Disciples so their arms could be broken, and then promised to do the same to Puma. Puma didn’t like this idea, and they fought to a quick indecisive finish. Puma and Pentagon Jr. did win the handicap match despite Pentagon being a poor teammate. They did get it together, and they were aided by two of the Disciples taking each other on a misaimed dive spot. Puma and Pentagon’s fight resumed after Pentagon Jr. stole the pin. Pentagon tried to break Puma’s arm, but Puma got away. Both men made it clear they want Mil Muertes, but equally have problems with each other. For his part, Mil Muertes was back on his throne this week, but his broken arm was in a sling. (There was no hint he might be giving up the belt.)

Vampiro appeared to be conflicted and confused by the Pentagon Jr. thing. He didn’t like it when Striker would ask questions about their relationship (and if Vampiro orchestrated the attack on Muertes last week – Vamp deflected that), but he also didn’t like it when Striker would say negative things about Pentagon.

forget "big man"; the Mack is agile for a man of any size
forget “big man”; the Mack is agile for a man of any size

Everyone’s gunning for Muertes. The opening segment of the night saw Johnny Mundo pick up a win over Killshot (though it took an unseen foul) and issue his own title challenge. Mundo was interrupted by Cage, who added his name to the mix of challengers. Mundo and Cage had an argument over this – and over Cage beating Mundo back in Season 1. Mundo backed off for a fight, tried to sneak attack anyway, and was knocked away. Cage came off as the less detestable of the two.

The night featured a lot of Season 2 characters being introduced. PJ Black, possibly inhabited by the spirit of a wolf, fought off luchador bikers in a vignette but didn’t have the same success with the Mack. Kobra Moon got her own debut vignette and will be on next week’s show. To close out the show, the hooded man from the end of last season (and from the very first segment of the first show) was formally revealed as Dragon Azteca Jr. His new mentor explained he was trained by Dragon Azteca as well, was off the mask but went a different path, but will pass that training onto Azteca Jr. That new mentor is Rey Mysterio Jr., making his first on screen appearance.

(Dragon Azteca Jr. seemed to change people in season one, but now is clearly Tijuana luchador Rey Horuz, the former second Hijo de Rey Misterio. That adds some metatext to this plot.)

There was also a check in on Marty the Moth and Sexy Star. They’re in a new location than the end of Ultima Lucha, with Marty in normal people (normal preppy people)’s clothes, but still obsessed with moths and Sexy Star. Sexy is still locked up. Marty did say “they” would eventually bring Sexy back to the temple, though Marty’s sister remained unseen.

Pentagon was a little amped up
Pentagon was a little amped up

Thoughts

The second episode seems to be the tough one. The second episode of the first season was one of the roughest of that season, and this felt like a marked step down from the first episode. That first episode set a high bar, but this one still felt off by normal measures.

The Killshot/Mundo match appeared to be heavily edited. There were abrupt jumps between spots, and Striker was pushing this as a great Killshot performance when the match was two minuted old and he’d been on offense for maybe 45 seconds on it. It only went about four minutes total and the announcers were reacting to a much longer match. Mundo had a few matches against guys who haven’t been in the big title picture during season 1 (Angelico and Aerostar are the first I can think of) and those matches felt more substantive and just plain better than this one. Killshot hasn’t really connected at all yet. It seems like there’s more plans for him – those military vignettes should air at some point – but he’s missing the match to go along with it.

another day, another springboard SSP
another day, another springboard SSP

PJ Black’s vignette was great in it’s over the top Lucha Underground style. The rival bikers taking off their helmets to reveal lucha masks was so ridiculous it was right in the usual style. (Like wise, the Kobra Moon vignette was fun – laser sounds for punches – though her character was less clear.) The match itself against the Mack was missing something. I liked it more than opener easily, but it never clicked for me and the character came off weaker after it. Vampiro being unimpressed with the Darewolf nickname and not knowing much about him only kind of works if Vampiro is impressed by Black by the end of the match. The Mack won, and Vampiro wasn’t impressed, so I dunno what we were doing here. (“Darewolf” is not great, but it’s better than “Black To The Future” – especially when you’re facing The Mack.) Black wasn’t helped by Killshot using Black’s 450 as a near fall in the last match. I understand they want surprises on this show, but Black didn’t get to do his big move (which some else did), he didn’t get any other memorable spot (Mack got that), he was billed as the ‘other’ South African whose cool nickname from the vignette was silly in the match, and he also lost. This was not a successful segment.

(Flipside argument: El Rey aired a very nice Black History Month video right before the Mack’s match, including clips of the Mack in action, and I was suddenly dreading Lucha Underground having their only two black luchadors be used as enhancement talent.)

Main event felt very WWE, with the feuding top guys beating the midcard tag team champions even though they’re still feuding. The difference here is it was even 2 on 3, though they at least set up a sensible finish where the Disciples took each other out and it was suddenly the Puma/Pentagon team that had the numbers. Still – felt like there should’ve been some talk about two guys beating the trios champions, who could’ve been trios champions had they just dragged a third person out of the crowd to stand on the apron all match. The announcers avoided that topic at all. The commentary for that match sounded very post produced, as if they were retaping it to try to get something (Vamp/Pentagon?) more in the direction they wanted. There was a lot more talk about Vamp being in the mental hospital in that match than the entire first episode too.

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sweet dive out of Siniestro de la Muerte anyway

I did like some stuff on this show! Context aside, the main event match was fun and easily the best match on the show. The intro vignettes were good. So was the Pentagon/Puma bit to start the show. And ending with the Rey reveal felt like a big moment.

When you look back at it – this was not a show with a superb match and this was a not a lot happened that you needed to see. They added some new pieces to the game, but they didn’t advance most of the ones you were interested in last week. Cage/Mundo was set up for down the line. Mysterio debuted, but in a 20 second bit which is only important if you missed the hype for Mysterio debuting (and the plot there was covered better in the comic book last week.) Puma/Pentagon/Muertes is going on, but you knew that last week. The Fenix/Cuerno story and the Ivelisse/Havoc/Angelico stories took a week off. If you took a week off too, you’ll probably be OK. It’ll probably be better next week.

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I always like this escape into a headscissors

LU episode 2, boring CMLL show, Konnan talks about AAA changes, Jarochita & Argos

CMLL (TUE) 02/02/2016 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Cholo & Espanto Jr. b Metatrón & Sensei MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:54. Rudos took 2/3.
2) El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo b Hombre Bala Jr., Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:05. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Tritón MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:17. Cancerberos took 1/3.
4) Hechicero b Delta [lightning] MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:45 via conjuro.
5) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Super Porky b Felino, Ripper, Tiger MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:54. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Thunder DQ Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Niebla Roja MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:44. Revolucionarios took 1/2, then last when Thunder tossed his mask to Niebla for the DQ.

Another pointless Tuesday show. I liked Hechicero/Delta but I always like Delta Hechicero. Cuatrero & Sanson are nice additions because they’re better than the Arkangel/Nitro class of guys who’d normally be in that match. Their match wasn’t Good, but there’s a promise of them being there in a few months. Really, that’s the same thing with Fujin and Raijin, who will give CMLL some different and likely better match ups than the status quo. It’d be much better if CMLL actually booked interesting matches or put people in positions to have them, but slight turnover of the roster can help where nothing else is happening (and CMLL’s best ‘booking’ trend of the last few years has been adding new talent to the mix.)

Fujin and Raijin are supposed to be on today’s CMLL Informa at 5pm CT. It’s their only streaming appearance in the near future: they’re working only Tuesday Guadalajara shows and Sunday Elite shows so far, and almost every other show is steamed. The other guests are Lluvia, Shocker, Okumura, Kamaitachi, and Mascara Dorada.

Lucha Underground has (kind of) announced three matches for tonight’s episode, ”

  • Johnny Mundo versus Killshot
  • PJ Black (debut) versus The Mack
  • Pentagon Jr. in action

That’s the complete list of matches. Pentagon Jr.’s match will be set up during the show. PJ Black is WWE’s Justin Gabriel, originally from South Africa. There may be one more debut behind the scenes on this show; one of these characters has a new associate but they’re not seen in front of the crowd for a few more weeks.

On this week’s MLW Radio, Konnan says he’s out as booker in AAA. He’s still with the company as a road agent, and he came up with finishes for Guerra de Titanes, but the matches and storylines currently on are the work of Dorian and Joaquin Roldan. This is a fluid situation that’s changed a few times: he’s made it clear prior that the TripleMania card and the original December Guerra de Titanes card were not his, but the Heroes Inmortales show in between did include his storylines. (It did come off like a permanent change this time.) Konnan’s not a big fan of what was done instead, but he also sounds like a man who was tired of the stress of the position. Here’s a rant, started off by Konnan noting people ask him for jobs in creative all the time and Konnan explaining creative is not just putting names together in matches:

When you actually get in that position – first of all, why have so many people failed in that position, have you ever asked yourself that question? I mean, why have so people fai-because there’s so many inherent politics and filters and bullshit and shit beyond your control, plus the fact you got to keep – how many people are on your roster, you’ve got to keep twenty, thirty, forty, fifty people happy – everyone’s got to be happy.

You’ve got guys that don’t like each other, you guys that stand you up for money, you got guys that want extra money to do a job, you got guys that who want to hook up their friends, you got your boss who doesn’t like a certain guy or certain idea, you got so many variables that come in to making shit work. Then, if you use certain guys, it’s because you like them. And if you don’t use certain guys, it’s because you hate them.

According to Konnan, the Fenix/Mesias storyline and also the Pentagon/Jack one (which was supposed to lead to mask versus hair) are both dead. The Australian Suicide/Daga one is expected to continue. Konnan said there was a lot on Guerra de Titanes that didn’t make sense to him. He thinks it was silly to have Angelico & Jack vacate the tag titles when Angelico’s going to be back in a month and while they’ve had many other championships go undefended for months. He thought the trios title match was strange, with two teams who hadn’t teamed ever and one team that had teamed for three months, instead of any sort of normal team. He didn’t understand why they were going with Mesias and Texano as a feud when both have been rudos are in the same faction. (Averno & Chessman are confirmed to be out of La Sociedad though.) Konnan wasn’t harsh or loud in his criticism, but just didn’t think it made sense.

With all that said, Konnan felt Guerra de Titanes did well live, and credits it to the product being hot because he doesn’t think the specific lineup was all that good.

Konnan says Rey isn’t returning to AAA until some money issues are worked out, and remains open to a part time schedule with WWE but has no interest in a full time return similar to Alberto del Rio. Konnan uses Rey’s experience with the Five Star Wrestling tour in the UK as an example of promoters being dumb today, pointing out a lot of stuff mentioned in the Observer that they did that made Rey look bad.

Konnan was more harsh towards two people who left AAA:

Konnna says La Jarochita told the press Taya was getting paid more than other girls and it’s because she’s Konnan’s friend. Konnan says he doesn’t decide the pay at all in AAA. Jarochita complained when she started about not being used right, but Konnan says she came in super out of shape (“you came in fat”) and wore outfits that exposed it. “Now that you’re in CMLL, see if you can get by on your wrestling talents, and not trying to sleep around like you did in AAA with who you thought had power.”

Argos said Konnan stopped young guys from getting over. Konnan mentions Dinstia, Fenix, Daga, Taya off the top of his head as young people he didn’t stop. Konnan tells the classic Argos story: he and Semental had a tryout before an AAA show, and Konnan was very impressed with both. Except, once Argos was a tecnico on his own away from Argos, he was falling down all the times in matches and it turned out Semental had just been awesome in that match. (Konnan rates Semental as one of the top 5 bases in AAA.) Other wrestlers told Konnan that Argos was hard to deal with, and didn’t want to work with him because he was too focused on getting his own stuff in. (Those people would tell Konnan, not Argos, who remained oblivious.) Argos started to gain weight, so Konnan tried turning him rudo to see if that would work any better, and it did not. Argos just isn’t any good, so he didn’t get pushed – Konnan points out Elite isn’t even putting him that high and thinks he probably wouldn’t be used at all if not a favor for Myzteziz.

In a fun fact, Konnan says Perro Aguayo Sr. & Jr. used to call Texano and Silver King “big cassette and little cassette”, because they used to watch all the VHSs they could get from Japan to get ideas. It’s quite noticeable there’s been no talk about Lucha Underground TV on these podcasts; there’s even open to talk about it when Melina’s time there comes up, and both hosts kind of step around it. Maybe they’re just not interested in it this season.

In an interview from Guerra de Titanes with +LuchaTV, Sexy Star talks about being disappointed with missing the show and isn’t sure how soon she’ll be back. She does say it might be quick, and it apparently was so – she did wrestle on last weekend’s Lucha Underground tapings.

There’s Elite show in Juarez on 03/27 – or maybe 03/20, depending if you’re looking at Aereo’s comment or the poster. That’s a Sunday, so it joins the 02/21 Sunday in Monterrey where Elite is listed some place besides Arena Mexico.

03/12 RIOT card so far
Unmexicans vs Compadres Extremos
Alberto Dos Rios vs Psycko Kid
Tony Rodriguez vs Rico Rodriguez
Kratoz vs Kamikaze (ex-Viento Divino) – new

It looks like one of the Incontenibles took Arana Negra III’s mask in Arena Lopez Mateos. This was Arana Negra III’s debut match.

AAA’s uploaded their version of Guerra de Titanes part 1.

Segunda Caida reviews Virus vs Rocky Romero

Atomic Star talks about winning El Protector for the third time.

The boxing, lucha and MMA regulations are being updated in Ensenada.

Skayde Jr. talks about the show he’s promoting outside of Chicago with Atlantis & Octagon on Sunday, straight up against the Super Bowl. Good luck.

Lineup

IWRG (SUN) 02/07/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón & Kaling Black vs Adrenalina & Vampiro Metálico
2) Astro, Emperador Azteca, Súper Astro Jr. vs Balak, Hip Hop Man, Novasonic
3) Diva Salvaje, Dr. Cerebro, Pantera I vs Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
5) Danny Casas, Dragón Fly, Hijo De Dos Caras, Veneno vs Atomic Star, Heddi Karaoui, Herodes Jr., Trauma I
6) Hijo del Pantera & Pantera © vs Negro Navarro & Trauma II [IWRG IC TAG]

Navarros won in straight falls this past weekend to set up that match. Semimain has the finalists from El Protector to continue the Herodes/Dos feud. Some new names listed in the early matches (and Kaling Black is making his once a year appearance?)

CMLL Elite (SUN) 02/07/2016 Arena México
1) Centvrión & Fly Warrior vs Artillero & Cholo
2) La Jarochita & Rossy Moreno vs Amapola & Dalys
3) Dinamic Black, Fuego, Metaleón vs Fujin, Heddi Karaoui, Raijin
4) Golden Magic & Tritón vs Puma & Tiger
5) Juventud Guerrera, Super Crazy, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Máscara Dorada vs Cibernético, La Máscara, Mephisto

You can tell Elite isn’t booked by CMLL’s normal crew because they actually use the Ingobernables as rudos. There are some promising matches.

Fujin & Raijin making their debut against two indie guys and teaming with the French MMA guy is so CMLL on the non-TV show.

The last match I have with Rossy Moreno in Arena Mexico was Febuary 23, 1990. There’s plenty of missing gaps in the early 90s, but we’re talking something like 25 years between matches in this arena. She’s another person who was working on the Todo x el Todo shows previously.

CMLL (TUE) 02/09/2016 Arena México
1) Flyer & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Artillero
2) La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Reyna Isis
3) Súper Halcón Jr. vs Disturbio [lightning]
4) Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., Stigma vs El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo
5) Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
6) Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

There’s no match that I think it’ll be better than OK on this show. That’s depressing.

CMLL (TUE) 02/09/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mágico & Magnum vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
3) Fuego, Titán, Tritón vs Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Dragón Lee vs Cavernario, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy vs Euforia, Kráneo, Último Guerrero

Meanwhile, Fujin & Raijin stay off the streaming shows for the moment. Their match look better than every match on this Arena Mexico, and this is the better card easily.

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Cholo Driver

CMLL Arena Mexico: 2016-02-02

Cholo Driver
Cholo Driver

Recapped: 02/02/2016

What happened: Thunder cheated to beat Mr. Niebla in the main event trios. And that’s it – unless they’re bringing that back another week, there’s no new program set up.

What was good: Hechicero/Delta lightning match was the best match on the show. The rest was forgettable.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

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