CMLL early week results, a problem of multiple Mini Psycho Clowns


CMLL (MON) 09/26/2022 Arena Puebla [@TribunaDeportes]
1) Centella Roja, Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer vs Espíritu Maligno, Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar
2) La Jarochita & Lluvia DQ Olympia & Reyna Isis
3) Akuma, Dark Magic, Espanto Jr. b Halcón Suriano Jr., Perverso, Rey Samuray
4) Arkalis, Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Stigma DQ Magia Blanca, Magnus, Rugido, Volador Jr. Facebook video (posted by )
Stigma tossed his mask to Magia Blanca for the DQ.
5) Místico DQ Atlantis Jr.
Mistico tossed his mask to Atlantis Jr. to draw the DQ.

Strange to do the same exact finish in the top two matches but I think that speaks to level of care given to these shows.

CMLL (TUE) 09/27/2022 Arena México [CMLL, Kaiser SportsThe Gladiatores (video)]
1) Bengala & Retro b Apocalipsis & Príncipe Odín Jr.
2) Angelito, Kaligua, Shockercito b Full Metal, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Polvora CMLL: Shockercito, Angelito y Kaligua derrotan a Pequeño Pólvora, Full Metal y Pequeño Olímpico. (posted by mluchatv)
tecnicos took 1/3
3) Hera, La Seductora, Tiffany b La Guerrera, La Magnifica, La Vaquerita CMLL: Tiffany, Hera y La Seductora vencen a La Vaquerita, La Guerrera y La Magnífica (posted by mluchatv)
rudas took 2/3
4) El Hijo del Villano III, Felino, Rey Bucanero b Dark Panther, El Audaz, Panterita del Ring CMLL: Hijo del Villano III, Rey Bucanero y El Felino vs Panterita del Ring, Dark Panther y El Audaz (posted by mluchatv)
rudos took 1/3
5) Ángel de Oro, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero DQ Star Jr., Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. CMLL: ¡Ángel de Oro es descalificado por faulear a Volador Jr! (posted by mluchatv)
Angel de Oro replaced Stuka on Tuesday. Tecnicos took 2/3, the last when Angel de Oro fouled Volador. He was DQed but counted his own pin anyway.

Volador/Angel de Oro might be an actual feud on a Tuesday show, a rare thing at this point.

I had issues with both this stream and the Guadalajara one. Both broadcasts had some weird audio issues going and that made everything fall apart when it stopped working. I was able to rescue Guadalajara and it went up on the drive this morning, this one I had to scrap and maybe it’ll go up later. I miss the stream just being up for everyone last week already.

CMLL (TUE) 09/27/2022 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [thecubsfan]
1) Logan, Luminoso, Quka b Gran Kenut, Jabalí, Minotauro
2) El Divino, Hijo del Solar, Mágico b Cris Skin, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
3) Adrenalina, Explosivo, Fantástico b Akuma, Dark Magic, Espanto Jr.
Tecnicos are Los Magnificos
4) Hombre Bala, Robin, Suicida b Omar Brunetti, Principe Daniel, Vaquero Jr.
5) Diamond, Magia Blanca, Magnus, Rugido b Bestia Negra, Dragón Rojo Jr., Joker, Misterioso Jr.
6) Blue Panther, Fuerza Guerrera, Solar I DQ Atlantis, Black Warrior, Satánico
Fuerza fouled Atlantis. Solar challenged Satanico to a title match, Satanico refused.

The main event was said not to be good.

CMLL (SAT) 10/01/2022 Arena Coliseo
1) Micro Ángel, Micro Gemelo Diablo I, Micro Gemelo Diablo II vs Átomo, Chamuel, Periquito Sacaryas
2) Astral, Oro Jr., Valiente Jr. vs Dr. Karonte I, Dr. Karonte II, Enfermero Jr.
3) Flyer, Hombre Bala Jr., Robin vs Disturbio, Okumura, Raider
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Luciferno, Virus
5) Fugaz, Místico, Soberano Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Niebla Roja, Terrible

Dragon Rojo matched up with Fugaz & Soberano, could be a direction either way.

Lucha Memes has a show on 10/16 in Arena Coliseo Guadalajaara. It has Hechicero vs Jonathan Gresham, which could be great. It has Atlantis & Octagon challenging for local tag team titles, which is very weird. It’s a show where I thought it would be useful to have English commentary because it’s the right show to boost viewership, except even I don’t know some of the opening guys so it’d be a challenge. That doesn’t really matter because Lucha Memes says there’s no plans to air it live or on delay. I’m willing to pay but I’m also willing to throw my hands up and move on.

On that Memes show, Sexy Sol is replacing Dark Silueta in a singles match with Lluvia. Lucha Memes mentioned Silueta will undergo surgery soon and was advised to work only tag matches until then. I figure Silueta is working to the Gran Prix and then getting a knee worked on. Dark Silueta would normally be a favorite to win the women’s CMLL Universal starting next week, and less so if she can’t wrestle in the singles match at the end.

CMLL Informa has a lot of the Night of Champions challengers: Los Infenrales, Amapola, Dulce Gardenia, Rugido, Suicida and Pierrothito.

CMLL posted a recap of the last few days of Stephanei Vaquer & Dalys in Japan. Vaquer got to meet with the Chilean ambassador to Japan, which was something she had pushed for on social media after she and Dalys got to meet with the Mexico ambassador earlier in the trip. Vaquer lost a title match to Saori Anou in Ice Ribbon, Dalys retained the CMLL Japan Women’s championship over Tae Honma. Vaquer, Dalys, Honma, Mei Surgura and Hikari Shimizu all were part of a press conference on Wednesday to promote the CMLL Gran Prix. Dalys & Vaquer have a show on 10/02 and are headed back to Mexico after.

PubliMetro asked Lluvia about her OnlyFans account. She had taken some photos for a calendar she sold and later uploaded the photos to Instagram. Her followers told her she should be selling that sort of content on OnlyFans instead. She’d previously heard that as a recommendation during the pandemic and had talked to others who were having success with OnlyFans. Lluvia was still hesitant and she had to work up the courage to try it. She says it’s been complicated to set up but she’s happy with the results. One piece of advice she got is to leave the OnlyFans for free for now to build up a following and only then start doing paid content. She’s planning on “very sexy” photos without “vulagirty or nudity” and she sees it as an additional income, not something that’s going to take her away from wrestling.


A new TV taping:

AAA TV (SAT) 10/08/2022 Explanada Malltertainment, Puebla, Puebla
1) Octagoncito & Sussy Love vs Mini Psycho Clown & Reina Dorada
2) Emperador Azteca vs ToxinPuma King
3) Octagón Jr. vs Villano III Jr.Abismo Negro Jr.
4) Mr. Iguana & Niño Hamburguesa vs Carta Brava & Chessman
5) Murder Clown & Pagano vs Cuatrero & Forastero

This wasn’t a TV taping until Monday, when AAA just abruptly started listing as is one. There doesn’t seem to be an obvious need for more TV; I can’t figure out when this one will air:

  • 10/01 Hard Rock Part 2
  • 10/08 Guadalajara (Zapopan) Part 1?
  • 10/15 TripleMania
  • 10/22 TripleMania Part 2?
  • 10/29 Guadalajara Part 2?
  • 11/05 Puebla??

This Puebla show doesn’t look like a planned TV taping lineup given the level of matches involved. We know the matches will change because they always do, but it doesn’t feel special. It feels like AAA doing the building a favor by converting it into an unplanned TV taping to make it attractive for ticket buyers, but I’m not sure if that’s the case either. It’s hard to figure out the plan here.

Also hard to figure is AAA having a new Mini Psycho Clown. That’s him on the AAA show. The previous one, who was minis champion for a short time, is the guy teaming with a new Mini Psycho Circus on the indie. I’m not sure why this change was made or why he’s getting to use the gimmicks if he’s been replaced.

The latest edition of Jeff Jarrett’s podcast is another discussion about AAA. Co-host Conrad Thompson mentions he’s going to be at TripleMania and that he spent a few hours with Konnan in Mexico in recently. For his part, Jarrett makes it sound as if his WrestleCon appearance was something decided just minutes before the show. Jarrett also claims he’s booked somewhere else the day of TripleMania. It would be consistent for AAA to start an angle with a foreigner and then that foreigner ends up busy the day of TripleMania. I’m not sure I believe Jarrett on this one. In possibly related news, the podcast included a long story about a real fight Jarrett & Psycho Clown got into after a match, though Jarrett assured us they’re all good now.

AAA had a swing of shows this week through the state of Puebla, with stops in the city of Puebla, Tehuacan and Atlixco. (This again might be a reason why the Puebla Mall show was upgraded to a TV taping.) All seemed to be government-sponsored shows to some extent and so there are articles talking about what a success they were with no details on the matches. The Tehuacan show made news for something that happened prior to the matches: part of a bleacher collapsed beneath a vendor, leaving him and his potato chips falling to the floor below. There is some video of the aftermath; the vendor appears to be shaken up but not seriously hurt. This isn’t something AAA is responsible for, the local promoter and the local government would be the ones in charge of the venue for a show like that.

Big Lucha

No Big Lucha World tonight. Bandido is busy. Big Lucha did announce their next show for 10/16, the day after TripleMania, and then removed the announcement.


No Thursday show this week, as previously announced. Those should be back this week. IWRG will have another episode of Retro on their YouTube channel, and their Wednesday night talk show will have the lineup.

Other News

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

The Lucha Memes Battle of Coacalco is up on IWTV.

Black Taurus faces Delirious and Laredo Kid & Trey Miguel face Ace Austin & Chris Bey on Thursday’s Impact show.

Leon luchador Fuerza K9 (Mario Rodolfo Galindo Sandoval) passed away Monday. No cause of death was mentioned but there were recent posts from friends mentioning Fuerza had been hospitalized with an illness and trying to raise money for his medical bills.

Box Y Lucha being Box y Lucha, has Irma Gonzalez as the biggest topic on issue 3520 (because she won a poll on their Instagram).

Jericho/Bandido for the ROH title on AEW Dynamite, AAA in Juarez on 11/20

This is the second post today. Scroll down for the weekend stuff.

I mentioned earlier how Big Lucha is the “it” Mexico indie promotion of the moment and how other groups want to associate themselves with Big Lucha to help get themselves over. I didn’t realize that extended to AEW.

AEW announced Bandido will challenge Chris Jericho for the Ring of Honor championship this Wednesday on AEW’s Dynamite show in Philadelphia. Bandido lost the Ring of Honor championship to Jonathan Gresham on the April 1st Supercard of Honor show. That match was put together when Sinclair owned ROH, though Tony Khan had taken control of the promotion by the time the match happened. Bandido hasn’t been booked in the wider Khan-verse since that time. That match seemed to go well, and fans have been asking about seeing him. There are many AEW/ROH people already, and there may be reasons beyond Bandido himself that he’s not been back. It would be cool if this was the start of a regular Bandido run in Dynamite but I’m only thinking of it as a one-off for now.

This Jericho/Bandido title match seems to exist primarily to add some authenticity to Jericho’s new ROH title reign by having him face a former champion. There are not a lot of recent former champions to choose from at the moment. Jericho beat Claudio Castagnoli, and the rematch is probably being held off. Jonathan Gresham had his falling out with AEW. Rush is an option but he’s taken a few high-profile losses in AEW lately. PCO and Matt Taven are working for Impact and may not be available. Jay Lethal and Dalton Castle are around but not pushed at world singles challenger level.  Jay Briscoe is apparently under contract but also apparently can’t be used on TV. It would be really funny to book a Davey Richards or a Low Ki versus Chris Jericho match to see what would happen and I encourage that sort of lunacy, but you can also see why AEW might not want to do that. Bandido’s a good pick but also maybe the only fitting pick if AEW’s looking at it that way.

(On AEW, Daniel Garica is teasing quitting Chris Jericho’s stable. Daniel Garcia also beat Bandido for the PWG title not that long ago. AEW is a place where everything that happens anywhere may count, so maybe that’s a subplot that comes up.)

I suppose no Big Lucha World this week. Big Lucha actually should do a watch-along of the match from the gym for fun. And maybe Bandido and Emi Sakura can exchange tips on how to build a cult internet following for your non-US boutique promotion.

There’s also an AAA taping lineup announced for Juarez in November. It’s further announced then usual, but it probably was building off the Juarez marathon show this weekend.

AAA TV (SUN) 11/20/2022 Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
1) Aéreo, Cobarde, Microman vs Arez, Mini Abismo Negro, Rey Horus
2) Reina Dorada, Sexy Star, Sussy Love vs Flammer, La Hiedra, Maravilla
3) Jack Cartwheel & Willie Mack vs Bestia 666 & Mecha Wolf
4) Bandido, Hijo Del Vikingo, Octagón Jr. vs Flamita, Gringo Loco, Villano III Jr.
5) Pagano, Pentagón Jr., Psycho Clown vs Rey Escorpión, Sam Adonis, Taurus

Five matches is not six, the amount AAA needs to tape to get two weeks of TV out of a single taping. That meant something gets added or a dark match gets shown on tapings this year. It would be my pick just to do Octagon Jr/Villano III Jr. and let the other guys do a 2v2, so at least one of these singles feuds has a singles match. That doesn’t seem to be AAA’s preference.

Psycho and Adonis seem paired up past TripleMania. Gringo Loco may actually wrestle Hijo del Vikingo. AAA booked the same Carthweel/Mack vs Bestia/Mecha match back in Sinaloa in July. The sides in the opener are strange.

Hijo del Vikingo is pictured as champion – but it’s AAA, so that’s more likely to be whatever image they handly to use and not an indication of title match plans.

My guess is this airs December 3rd and 10th; it could end up being the last first run footage to air on Space this year. That’s just a guess, it’s hard to know for sure this far out.

Bandido wins Big Lucha title, Panthers/Panteritas, AAA notes

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CMLL (FRI) 09/23/2022 Arena México [CMLL, Cronista del RingEstrella del RingKaiser SportsR de RudoThe GladiatoresThe Gladiatores (video), thecubsfan]
1) Minos, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito b Angelito, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito CMLL: Pierrothito, Minos y Pequeño Olimpico derrotan a Último Dragoncito, Angelito y Shockercito (posted by mluchatv) Pierrothito, Pequeño Olímpico y Minos derrotan a Último Dragoncito, Shockercito y Angelito (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
2) Halcón Suriano Jr., Sangre Imperial, Suicida b Akuma, Dark Magic, Espanto Jr. CMLL: Sangre Imperial, Suicida y Halcón Suriano Jr. vencen a Akuma, Dark Magic y Espanto Jr (posted by mluchatv) Suicida, Sangre Imperial y Halcón Suriano Jr. derrotan a Akuma, Dark Magic y Espanto Jr. (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
3) Blue Panther & Dark Panther DCOR Panterita del Ring & Panterita del Ring Jr. ¡Terminan en empate! Blue Panther y Dark Panther y Panterita del Ring y Panterita del Ring Jr. (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) Blue Panther y Dark Panther empatan ante Panterita del Ring y Panterita del Ring Jr. (posted by mluchatv) CMLL-PANTERITA DEL RING JR-PANTERITRA DEL RING VS DARK PANTHER -BLUE PANTHER/ARENA MEXICO -23-09-22 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Blue Panther & Panterita Sr. were eliminated, then neither Panterita Jr. nor Dark Panther could make it back in after a Panther tope.
4) Atlantis, Hijo de Octagón, Octagón b Ángel de Oro, Felino, Fuerza Guerrera CMLL-ATLANTIS -H. DE OCTAGÓN-OCTAGÓN VS FELINO-ÁNGEL DE ORO- FUERZA GUERRERA/ARENA MEXICO -23-09-22 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Octagón, Atlantis y el Hijo de Octagón derrotan a Fuerza Guerrera, Ángel de Oro y Felino (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
5) Dragón Rojo Jr., Místico, Stuka Jr. b Euforia, Soberano Jr., Titán CMLL-DRAGÓN ROJO JR-STUKA JR.-MÍSTICO VS TITÁN-SOBERANO JR.-EUFORIA/ARENA MEXICO -23-09-22 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Con La Mística, Místico, Dragón Rojo Jr. y Stuka Jr. derrotaron a Euforia, Titán y Soberano Jr. (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)

The Panthers/Panterata was great and greatly laid. Blue Panther is a fan cheer machine but also smart enough to know the point should be to get over Panterita Jr. (and Dark Panther) and they laid out the match to make the younger guys the stars in the end. Dark Panther didn’t really connect on his tope over the barricade but it still kind of worked. CMLL seems committed to doing making Panterita Jr. a top guy and I hope it works.

The attendance was nowhere near last week, not that anyone should’ve expected that. It seemed a little bit up from the usual Friday night. The CMLL iPPVs, for about a year, start off with a segment where the TV announcers in the ring and talking about the big matches on the show to hype the top matches (and probably actually let them know what’s on the show for the people who speak Spanish but don’t really follow the promotion.) Octagon’s name got a noticeable big reaction when he was brought up in that segment. He weirdly didn’t seem as over in the actual match, which was about exactly what you’d expect with the people involved. The Atlantis/Fuerza feud was completely dropped to go back to Fuerza/Octagon. There were no challenges after and no indication if these guys were in for one night or more often.

The rest of the show was generally good if not particularly substantial. Both Pierrothito & Suicida got winning pinfalls before their fan-driven title shots next week, which is more care to booking than usual. Euforia did take the loss in the main event.

CMLL did not mention Starman on the show. Arena Neza did have a moment for him.I’m not sure if I should read into it any more than “CMLL didn’t consider him on the roster like Razie or important enough to mention”, but it felt strange. Between Starman, Raziel, Toro Bill Jr. and Guerrero Espacial, there’s been a run of 40-50 year old CMLL adjacent luchadors who’ve passed away in the last five months.

The Gladiatores mentioned Starman’s real name is Othoniel Trejo.

CMLL (SAT) 09/24/2022 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Full Metal, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia b Acero, Aéreo, Pequeño Magía Facebook video (posted by )
Rudos took 1/3.
2) La Guerrera, La Magnifica, La Vaquerita b La Seductora, Olympia, Tiffany Facebook video (posted by )
Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, StigmaAkuma, Magnus, Pólvora Facebook video (posted by )
Akuma replaced Okumura. Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Dragón Rojo Jr. b Fugaz Facebook video (posted by )
5) Atlantis Jr., Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Esfinge, Negro Casas, Star Jr. Facebook video (posted by )

Fugaz remains not built for singles matches.

CMLL (SUN) 09/25/2022 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Cholo & Príncipe Odín Jr. b Bengala & Neón
2) Cachorro, Leono, Valiente Jr. DQ Disturbio, El Consejo, Raider
Consejo is Nitro reprising a short lived gimmick from five years ago. The live results still called him Nitro when he got the win.
3) Cancerbero, Luciferno, Virus b Audaz, Diamond, Halcón Suriano Jr.
Rudos took 1/3
4) El Coyote, Felino, Hijo del Villano III b Dulce Gardenia, Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Terrible b Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado
Los Ingobernables took 1/3.

Wins and losses don’t matter much in CMLL but Los Malditos losing to every other top trio seems like a reason they shouldn’t be trios champions. They do seem like someone’s pet project and maybe that’ll win the day.

We are still guessing about what the Consejo thing as we were did five years ago. I feel good about the guess (“copyright reasons”) but CMLL didn’t give a reason this time around either.

Puebla has Mistico vs Atlantis Jr. scheduled, though I’m not sure i that’s the match happening given the next change:

CMLL (TUE) 09/27/2022 Arena México
1) Bengala & Retro vs Apocalipsis & Príncipe Odín Jr.
2) Angelito, Kaligua, Shockercito vs Full Metal, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Polvora
3) La Guerrera, La Magnifica, La Vaquerita vs Hera, La Seductora, Tiffany
4) Dark Panther, El Audaz, Panterita del Ring vs El Hijo del Villano III, Felino, Rey Bucanero
5) Star Jr., Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. vs Ángel de Oro, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Angel de Oro replaced Stuka on Tuesday

An unexpected day of the week for an Atlantis/Stuka rematch. Or it would’ve been, but Atlantis Jr. got pulled from this show Monday morning. Guerreros and Volador aren’t working a lot of Tuesdays, but they’ve got to pick up a match somewhere since they didn’t make the night of champions show.

Would you like to watch a video of Mexico City police working an Arena Mexico show accompanied by dramatic music for no reason?


AAA TV this week was the first of the two Hard Rock shows. It kind of felt like the 2021 TV shows, the amount of resort footage was reminiscent of the luchadors visiting various cultural and historical sites last year. The opener, Arez & Aramis vs Komander & Latigo, was a spectacular match. Not everything worked right but the stuff they did was impressive. The other two matches were the usual house show level matches more the norm on these resort shows.

There were two storyline vignettes on this show. Las Toxicas confronted Taya and demanded she stop defending it against foreigners and defend it against Flammer, so the title stays in AAA. Taya pointed out she doesn’t make the matches. This didn’t seem to satisfy Las Toxicas, who attacked Taya after her match. Another video had a Laredo Kid & Aramis discussion interrupted by Johnny Caballero, who told Aramis he should be listening to him instead since Johnny has all the WWE success (and the AAA Megachampionship) and Laredo does not. Johnny is also carrying around a stickhorse named Lorenzo de Llamas, a fun joke that makes it hard to take him seriously when he talks about his achievements. Caballero claims he’s starting a group. Like all AAA, wait and see if it goes anywhere.

AAA playing Psycho Clown’s music for Pagano and not bothering to fix it later was a great example of the effort level put into these TV shows. There was a moment in the opener tag where all four guys were frozen after something went wrong, and they kinda figured it out. It was a moment to edit out if anything is ever going to be edited, and it was not edited out. So it goes.

Space did run an advertisement saying they’re airing TripleMania but didn’t list a start time. My impression from the press conference is the show starts at 7 live (and on FITE) and Space picks it up around 8, but I know other people were confused. AAA might make this clearer closer to the show.

A few more TripleMania thoughts with a weekend to think about it

  • It’s every TripleMania card for the last decade, no better or worse. It should go well. They’ll be all sorts of angles and surprises in the opening matches to make them seem less pointless. One of them will be great. You can also really just tune in for the last three or four matches and see all you need to see. I wish the formula got shaken up but I also can see why they don’t feel like they need to do that.
  • Plenty of fans seemed frustrated there was no FTR appearance (or, to a lesser extent, no Sammy/Taya one.) Like I said before, it doesn’t serve AAA’s purposes to explain why they couldn’t get their tag team champions to appear on a date they should’ve had booked for six months; no one cares the reason why. It would be good to say when they’re going to bring them in. That would assume AAA has a date and who knows.
  • Kamille from the “NWA” probably doesn’t mean anything to almost all Mexican fans; the Billy Corgan era of the NWA has had no obvious reach in Mexico outside of super invested fans who pay attention to everything. It’s possible you could count on two hands the number of people in Mexico who watched the previous NWA match between Taya & Kamille. Kamille, “tall striking human being”, probably does mean something to Mexican fans and it was a good idea to bring her to the press conference to get that size over.
    • I believe doing AAA doing a copromotion with NWA means almost nothing as far as additional international attention. There definitely will be NWA fans who buy the TripleMania show, but I believe most people who pay for the NWA are the level of fans willing to buy pretty much any ‘major’ wrestling show and the TripleMania Mexico City already fits as a major wrestling show. FITE probably has the numbers to find this out better than I do though.
  • Argenis posted a photo from the Arena Mexico stage on Friday. It’s the usual “look, I might show up in another promotion” social media post that luchadors do whenever they’re unhappy about something. They never actually act on it. Mistico might be able to get his brother back in CMLL but it doesn’t seem like that’s actually the plan. Argenis is likely disappointed about not being on the TripleMania card. AAA’s strategy of bookings TripleMania shows so as many wrestlers as possible get booked still leaves a bunch of people unhappy. I vote for less people involved and more meaningful matches but I’m not the person who has to deal with angry wrestlers.

AAA ran their latest Showcenter event on Sunday. Posting the results more out of habit than usefulness. These aren’t being taped and the tournament long stopped making sense.

AAA (SUN) 09/25/2022 Showcenter Complex, San Pedro Garza García, Nuevo Leon
1) Mamba b Baby LoveViva Van
Baby Love and Mamba replaced Goya Kong
2) Aramis b Baby ExtremeDulce Kanela
Scheduled as a tag match, Mamba was moved to the next match.
3) Puma King & Toscano b Murder Clown & Panic Clown
Toscano (replacing Carta Brava) beat Panic Clown (surprise partner)
4) Toxin b Antifaz [Showcenter Tournament]
money thrown in
5) Aerostar, Octagón Jr., Vampiro b Dinámico, Rey Escorpión, Taurus
Octagon Jr. (return from injury) replaced Drago. Dinamico replaced Villano III Jr.

They went 1 out of 5 announced matches, even switching around a match where they had everyone there. I don’t know why they announce lineups. Toxin vs. Antifaz was the only match that stayed as it was announced. Neither of those two people was in the tournament bracket when it was originally announced.

AAA’s been pretty consistent on announcing the next show date during the event every month, and the plan was for a show every month. The next show would be 10/30 by the usual pattern and I’m sure they’re still running there. WWE’s Monterrey show is on 10/29, so maybe that’s the issue.

Vampiro did a lot of press to highlight his appearance on this show. In Posta, Vampiro said he’s in his late steps as a luchador but will keep working in the AAA office. I don’t know that it’s public that he’s been working back in the AAA office. Vampiro also has a full array of projects outside of wrestling as always. He says his Alzheimer’s condition is stage 4 but he wants to live his life to the fullest as long as he can.

Big Lucha

Big Lucha (FRI) 09/23/2022 Bandidos Gym, Iztapalapa, Distrito Federal [Estrellas del Ring, Mas Lucha, R de Rudo]
1) Sol & Torito Negro Jr. b Elipse & Orbita and King & Kong King y Kong vs Elipse y Órbita vs Torito Negro y Solo BANDIDOS GYM/BIG LUCHA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Sol y Torito Negro VS King y Kong VS Órbita y Elipse | Lucha completa (posted by mluchatv) Triangular espectacular parejas: Sol y Torito Negro Jr Vs King y Kong Vs Órbita y Elipse Big Lucha (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
2) Yutani b ViajeroÉxtasisForneoGaleno del MalFulgorEl Potro de OroElementalCometa MayaRadioactivoTiranoMr. Win, Wagner Kid, Huby [Torneo Alas de la Independencia] Torneo Alas de Independencia Big Lucha: Yutani, Viajero, Tirano, Galeno del Mal, Limbo, Radioactivo (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) Torneo Alas de la Independencia | Lucha completa (posted by mluchatv) Torneo ALAS DE LA INDEPENDENCIA desde el Bandidos Gym con BIG LUCHA (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Yutani won a title shot in the future
3) La Hiedra & Lady Shani b Catalina & Sussy Love La Hiedra y Lady Shani de AAA Vs Sussy Love y Catalina de Big Lucha (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) LA HIEDRA Y LADY SHANI VS CATALINA Y SUSSY LOVE. (posted by hector godfrey) Lady Shani y la Hiedra vs Catalina y Succy Love BANDIDOS GYM/BIG LUCHA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Lady Shani y La Hiedra VS Catalina y Sussy Love | Lucha completa (posted by mluchatv)
Lady Shani replaced Sexy Star
4) Bendito, Carito, Emperador Azteca, Gravity, Komander b Accion Jackson, Andrew, Hannya, Jack Evans, Shocko Emperador A-Carito-Gravity-Komander-Bendito Vs Jack Evans-Shocko-Mentallo-Acción Jackson-Andrew (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) México vs Resto del Mundo BANDIDOS GYM7BIG LUCHA (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Hannya & Andrew replaced Mentallo & Shun Skywalker. Emperador won the match. The Tiger confronted Azteca after the match and was joined by Los Creatures del Kaoz (Cibernetico, Charly Rockstar, Diosa Quetzal, Steel Angel (ex-Hijo del Angel)) and they fought with Black Generation. Ciber introduced Mr. Electro as the new member of the group, which upset Rockstar into walking out.
5) Blue Demon b Dr. Wagner Jr.Skayde BLUE DEMON VS DR. WAGNER VS SKAYDE LUCHAN ENMASCARADOS EN TRIANGULAR DE BIG LUCHAS. (posted by hector godfrey) Dr. Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr vs Skyde BANDIDOS GYM/BIG LUCHA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Lucha de maestros: Dr. Wagner Jr Vs Blue Demon Jr Vs Skayde en Big Lucha (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
Demon beat Wagner with a foul
6) El Bandido b Flamita [BL WORLD] Bandido vs Flamita CAMPEONATO MUNDIAL BIG LUCHA/BANDIDOS GYM (posted by Estrellas del Ring) BANDIDO VS FLAMITA. POR EL CAMPEONATO MUNDIAL DE BIG LUCHA (posted by hector godfrey) Luchota: Bandido Vs Flamita por el campeonato Mundial de Big Lucha (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
Bandido beat Flamita to become the first champion. Flamita gave him credit but said he still wanted the mask match. Yutani confronted Bandido post match.

I’ve watched everything but the fourth match from this show. Mas Lucha’s initial airing had the video dropping out from time to time; it seems better in the individual match uploads they’ve put up.

Bandido/Flamita looked like it might get derailed early due to a Flamita foot/ankle injury. They killed some time by throwing each other into chairs and Flamtia seemed to be more comfortable once they got going again. They then really got going, an intense clean title match that went back and forth and had a very vocal crowd involved. It was everything you’d want out of the first title match in the promotion. I’m sure it comes off as as questionable to have Bandido the champion of the Bandido wrestling federation to people who don’t follow the group, but it came off as the right decision in watching the show.

Demon, Wagner, Skayde was not good at all. Everyone looked slow and old and the crowd wasn’t into it. The wrestlers, especially Wagner, seemed unhappy with how it went. The women’s match was fine. It was a novelty to me to see Hiedra & Shani in just a normal match instead of fighting guys or doing hardcore or a multiperson situation.

The Copa went very long, had some good moments, had Cometa Maya crashing and burning badly on a dive. I’m starting to really like Forneo based on his work here and in the recent tournament. Galeno del Mal had a great stretch of looking like a monster. Yutani was a good pick for a winner and first challenger. It was clear Big Lucha hadn’t given the announcers a list of participants. No one knew who “Juby” was and I’m still not sure.

The opener was the usual good effort match with a few moments that could’ve gone better. I’m not sure if there’s a different method of preparation going on but X-Devil and Sol look a lot steadier in Big Lucha than they do in other groups.

Big Lucha is the “It” indie promotion in Mexico right now, which has benefits and downsides. It is clear other groups are trying to work with Big Lucha in hopes of using that bit of attention to help themselves. Everything after the 5v5 seemed to be angles just to get over matches for KAOZ wrestling, a promotion that does not run shows. (The Tiger, in a post show interview, made it clearer that he wanted Emperador Azteca’s mask but back in Monterrey for KAOZ.) I suspect KAOZ paid for this all to happen but it felt like an intrusion on a Big Lucha event. The Big Lucha people are going to get a lot of offers for co-promotion as long as they stay the “It” group and they can afford to be choosier about them.

Big Lucha did not give a next show date, or a date of when that Bandido/Yutani match is happening if those are two different shows.


IWRG (SUN) 09/25/2022 Arena Naucalpan [Mas Lucha]
1) Kenji b Súper Boy LIVE 🔴| Abismo Negro Jr. regresa, Caballero de Plata VS Hellboy, Cerebros VS Oficiales y más (posted by IWRG tv)
2) Feroz & Rey Aztaroth b Baby Star & Jhon Tito LIVE 🔴| Abismo Negro Jr. regresa, Caballero de Plata VS Hellboy, Cerebros VS Oficiales y más (posted by IWRG tv)
3) Noisy Boy, Paymon, Spider Fly b Limbo, Nishikawa, Rey Halcón LIVE 🔴| Abismo Negro Jr. regresa, Caballero de Plata VS Hellboy, Cerebros VS Oficiales y más (posted by IWRG tv)
4) Hijo del Alebrije, Luka, Relámpago b Feroz, Maniacop 360, Yorvak LIVE 🔴| Abismo Negro Jr. regresa, Caballero de Plata VS Hellboy, Cerebros VS Oficiales y más (posted by IWRG tv)
Feroz replaced Garra Mortal.
5) Hell Boy, Oficial 911, Oficial Fierro b Caballero de Plata, Cerebro Negro, Cerebro Negro Jr. LIVE 🔴| Abismo Negro Jr. regresa, Caballero de Plata VS Hellboy, Cerebros VS Oficiales y más (posted by IWRG tv)
Hell Boy beat Cerebro Negro via foul.
6) Abismo Negro Jr., Aster Boy, Tonalli b Dick Angelo 3G, Legendario, Puma de Oro LIVE 🔴| Abismo Negro Jr. regresa, Caballero de Plata VS Hellboy, Cerebros VS Oficiales y más (posted by IWRG tv)

This show was said to be not very good.

Remember how the IWRG tag team title situation was going to get resolved on Sunday in GALLI? Jessy Ventura didn’t make the show due to flight issues. They did run the tag title match anyway, with Joey Marx and Mason Conrad winning the tag titles. I have no idea if that means they’re coming to Naucalpan or if they’re just the newest team to hold the titles around Chicago until a Mexican team can come in.

IWRG announced they’ll decide a new IWRG women’s champion on their 12/16 anniversary show. Amapola was the most recent champion, winning the belt in 2005 and last known to defend it in 2007. That was when CMLL and IWRG were working together, they haven’t for many years now. IWRG also hasn’t been much interested in a women’s division for most of those 15 years, just occasional matches. They’ve made more effort in the last few years, though it’s still pretty inconsistent. At any rate, they’re making a new belt and will decide a new champion on that year end show.

Caballero del Plata did donate his lost hair to a charity.

Nacion Lucha Libre

Their first taping did place on Saturday. There’s not too much written about it; the usual sites aren’t going to cover a show where they can’t take video. I could find scattered video but not really results.  Attendance looked decent if carefully arranged to look bigger on TV. It reads like a lot of tickets were given out for free for anyone who wanted them, so I’m not sure the attendance should be considered significant of anything. Nacion’s gameplan seems to make their money on TV, especially international TV, so a taping with lots of people is more important to them if they paid. Giving away free tickets across the street from Arena Naucalpan sure doesn’t help IWRG but I don’t think that’s a Nacion concern.

The main heel group appeared to be some combination of the Colons, Super Beast, and Travis Banks. Alberto sees himself as someone wrongly accused and so it’s unsurprising Banks could convince him they’re the same.

There didn’t seem to be an announcement about when this taping would air; the original idea was October and that’s getting close. (Nacion did film other footage for TV a week back so I believe it’s actually airing, just that they and TV network Imagen haven’t gotten around to promoting it.) There also didn’t seem to be a push for the next taping.


Sniper took Black Fish’s mask in a cage match in Guadalajara. This doesn’t appear to be the Black Fish who was Fishman Jr. for some time. This Black Fish is Juan Manuel Morales.

Lucha Libre CM was to open their own arena in Ecatepec on Sunday with a show. The show didn’t happen; the local government declared they couldn’t run the building. The promotion insisted they had everything taken care of and would run the show that day somehow. It doesn’t appear they were able to run in the end.

The Juarez marathon lucha libre event was said to draw 8,000 people. I believe that was a free admission show.

Mexa Wrestling (SAT) 10/01/2022 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) ? vs ????????????????????
Arena San Juan school, no names announced
2) Lolita vs Diosa Quetzal
3) Flama Roja & Toro Negro vs Corsario Negro & Drako
4) Noisy Boy & Spider Fly vs Alas de Acero & Iron Kid and Sol & X-Devil
5) Tonalli vs Brazo De Oro Jr.
6) Alpha Wolf & Dragón Bane vs Aramis & Toxin
7) Galeno del Mal & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Centvrión & Metaleón

This is the “only good matches” show and I guess every match could be a good match if it works out. I don’t feel confident about six straight good matches. You also probably shouldn’t put Mexican wrestling trainees on a show where the idea is just good matches but maybe that’s part of the deal to get the building.

Metaleon is now Leon Dorado Jr. everywhere but here, because here they were going to do a Centvrion/Metaleon mask match at some point and it just hasn’t happened. It’s by no means hot after the promotion hasn’t run all year, but it’s also overdue for Mexawrestling to either announce when they’re going to run the match or to try focus on something new. I don’t know if Mexa Wrestling really is meant to be anything beyond this one show but it feels like they’re stuck in a dated moment.

10/08 Riot (Nuesta Raza, Nueva Lucha)

That could be a really good trios match.