CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-14 

this was creative micro counters

Recapped: 07/14/2017

Matches: 

Akuma, Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico beat Astral, Sensei, Star Jr. (18:17 [9:38, 4:50, 3:49], 2/3, below average)

Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis beat La Vaquerita, Marcela, Silueta  
(15:17 [8:08, 2:46, 4:23], 1/3, ok)

Dragón Rojo Jr., Negro Casas, Sam Adonis beat Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Soberano Jr.
(10:39 [2:00, 2:02, 6:37], 2/3, ok)

Pierroth defeated Vangellys in a hair vs hair match
(6:41, 2/3, below average)

  1. Vangellys northern lights suplex (1:17)
  2. Pierroth middle rope senton (1:40)
  3. Pierroth Buca Storm (3:44)

Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Volador Jr. beat Último Guerrero to win the CMLL Universal Championship
(22:42, 2/3, great)

  1. Pulpo Guerrero (4:07)
  2. Volador Code Red (2:43)
  3. Volador Spanish Fly (15:52)

What happened:

everyone lived

Volador defeated Último Guerrero to become the ninth CMLL Universal champion. It is the first time he’s won the annual tournament.

Pierroth defeated Vangellys in their hair match. No new Ingobernable interfered or appeared, and Pierroth won mostly clean. Vangellys later protested that Pierroth had used a piledriver to win, but it was (an attempt) at the same sort of finish Rey Bucanero and Joe Lider have used.

Sam Adonis came out wearing a Love Machine mask while attacking Blue Panther. He and his team were disqualified for excessive rudoness in the first fall. Comissioner Zavela came to the ring to demand Adonis unmask in the second fall, and Panther took care of it by untying and pulling the mask off. Panther through he won with in the third fall with the armbar, but Adonis was under the ropes. Sam Adonis held onto the ropes to beat Panther a moment later. Tirantes was leaning heel the whole match. Blue Panther challenged Sam Adonis to a hair match, but the whole thing got derailed by Azul tossing Adonis’ flag into the crowd and Adonis never got around to responding.

Thoughts:

this was the better triple dive

The main event was a well performed match which I’m probably just not going to say nice things about. When it was going well, it looked impressive but just as predictable. This was the extended version of their big match, which meant all the spots were coming in the third fall, and all in the same order as usual. UG pulling out a Rainmaker when he had exhausted his playbook was amusing for the reference and for UG showing he could actually do something else. This is one where the efficiency of the moves is counter balanced by the lack of creativity in the layout, and your preferences of those two things is going to sway your opinion on the match strongly either way. The crowd totally got into, tremendously more than the other singles match, and this was successful for what they set out to do. I just can’t imagine rewatching it again; it felt like I already did.

The semimain was the showcase match for the técnicos it looked, but it just took a while to get there. The first two falls were kind of slower than expected, maybe because they were purposefully backloading everything for the third fall. It had all the highspots, with Mistico’s ramp running dive looking spectacular as usual. Dragon Lee and Luciferno continue to have good chemistry and they should just pretend Luciferno is a lightweight to do the title match at this point. It got confusing near the end, with the announcer not really doing a good job of explaining who was still alive and Mistico’s SSP not connecting well, but it was still good.

UG catch powerbomb

Pierroth & Vangellys had a normal match, underwhelming in fashion for not being the fiasco and for no shenanigans. It was just the two guys having a match as best as they could, which still wasn’t very good at all. They both move very slow and were all sorts of tired by the end of the match. Vangellys got protected by taking a piledriver and they tried to protect both by going short, but they couldn’t do much even as sort as it was. This was a match only for the interest of the Munoz family and they appeared to be the only people who enjoyed it.

I think once you break out the Love Machine mask, you’re doing the apuesta match. It’s just a matter of time before Blue Panther and Sam Adonis have that match now. They’re still things that can be improved – it’s weird big Adonis is leaping onto Panther all the time – but the crowd a lot cares and it’ll work. Diamante Azul looked clumsy and dangerous during the match, which make me concern when they did the monkey flip spot with Soberano (but that went alright.) Not as much Soberano as in some other matches.

only the second scariest spot with Astral tonight

The second match was better than the opener but that’s the lowest of the bar. It was just a match and boring for a while, with few highlights. It slowed down in the second fall and never really picked back up again to any interesting degree. They didn’t do much, and Dalys was repeating spots while still in the first fall. Zeuxis breaking out the Spanish Fly was the only real highlight.

The opener had the usual problems: a way too long and slow first fall that killed the crowd, tecnicos running thru some of the same sequences as they’d do in a normal match, but unnaturally cut off from dives to boos, Arkangel badly screwing up. To be fair to the técnicos, the crowd ended up booing both teams and the other falls weren’t that much better. We haven’t gotten to see Star Jr. in a real match for a while and this wasn’t one.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-08 

poor Bronce

Recapped: 07/08/2017

All matches were taped from Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua on 06/04/2017

Matches: 

Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly beat Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth
(9:34, Averno foul Lanzeloth, ok)

Hijo del Fantasma and Texano Jr. went to a draw in a cage match also including Kevin Kross in a cage match
(9:06, escape at the same time, ok)

Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown defeated Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Carta Brava Jr. & Soul Rocker in a tag team mask match
(10:01, Dr. Wagner & Psycho Clown beat Carta Brava & Soul Rocker, ok)

What happened: 

Lanzeloth as Mistico

The announcers announce before the match that the losing team, not the losing person, will lose their mask. Only the Traidor Clowns really seem to react strongly to the stipulation and the crowd does not really care. The Traidor Clowns find a screwdriver in a turnbuckle (maybe one they use the tighten the ropes) and stab Poder del Note with it. Copetes is taken out by a dive, and the two rudos teams quickly have the two técnicos pinned with no referee. They cover them for a bit of time before Mocho Cota Jr. arrives with Hijo del Tirantes to make the count. Wagner & Psycho kick out TV. Mocho takes out Tirantes with a chair a few seconds later. Poder del Norte ends up throwing the Traidor Clowns out, Wagner & Psycho give Rocker & Brava backcrackers and cover, and Vampiro shows up to count three. Mocho Cota argues that Vampiro is not a referee, but Vampiro unzips his jacket to reveal he’s smarter than us all and put on a referee shirt since the cage match. Psycho beats up Poder del Norte to force them unmask, though we’re not really given a great shot of them unmasking – they’re eventually shown standing around outside after the fact for a moment.

The cage match was specifically explained as only having one winner, who would get the title shot at TripleMania. True to form, that meant there would be two winners. They used US rules for cage matches instead of Mexican, where the winner was determined by the first person who touched the floor (instead of just getting on the outside of the cage.) Hernandez came out and got involved for reasons no one seemed sure of, least of all him – he stopped Texano & Fantasma leaving at one point, then Kross at another point. Mascara de Bronce came out and attacked Hernandez in term. Fantasma and Texano shockingly worked together at times, and then didn’t get along at other times.

Fantasma escaped the cage first, which meant he would’ve been the winner under normal rules (but they weren’t playing but those rules so it didn’t matter, and the announcers were aware of what was going on.) Fantasma and Texano very carefully climbed down the cage next to each other before taking the plunge off the bottom of the cage to the floor for the usual draw spot in a cage match. Copetes and Hijo del Tirantes did the usual bit of each favoring one of the guys in a draw, though Copetes does eventually make the motion for a tie match before Vampiro arrives. Hernandez waylays Mascara de Bronce with the briefcase while this is going on, and brings him into the cage to destroy him while Fantasma and Texano argue on the outside. Kross interrupts to take the briefcase away from Hernandez, who asks for it back. Vampiro walks out, and everyone ends up in the cage with him. Vamp announces the match as a draw with both men facing Mundo at TripleMania and takes the briefcase back from Koross. This angers Kross, who shoves Vampiro twice. Vampiro teases leaving the cage, but instead locks the door and takes off his jacket to tease fighting Kross. Mascara de Bronce climbs up the cage in the meantime, waits for his cue, and does a plancha onto Kross, Fantasma and Texano. (This seems to take forever because they focus on Bronce climbing up instead of showing the near fight – the spot is hurt because everyone knows it’s coming for too long.) Vampiro hands the briefcase to Bronce, who leaves with it. Vamp leaves too, and Kross beats up everyone else.

poor Bronce again

No lucha libre cage match is good and this match would’ve been better without the stipulation. Texano and Fantasma had to go at each hard because of their issue, but they couldn’t because Kross was always in there too. The cage meant they had to work all three in on every spot instead of focusing on the individual issues. It also meant there wasn’t much room for people to sell and get out of the way. The cage also didn’t allow rope running spots to look good at all (so much stopping right in front of the ropes and gently tapping them because they couldn’t run into them) and they just couldn’t stop doing those spots. The finish is a lame WWE finish, and the post match was primarily about Vampiro. You can see them thinking the Mascara de Bronce plancha spot would get him over to balance what happened before, but it came off as tacked on and fake looking.

Before the opener, Averno bad mouthed the fans and taunts Parka, telling him to leave like Ricky Marvin. Marvin gets named this time, though it’s more just the cue for Parka’s music to play. Averno taunts Argenis & Parka for having no partner (though we just saw Lanzeloth advertised for this match). Parka says Averno talks to much, acknowledges Marvin’s not here, and introduces one of the future stars of AAA as their partner. He poses before OGT beats up the lot of them. As usual, the rudos controlled the entire match until they do their pose spot, and then someone (Argenis this time) comes in to hit one of them. Averno eventually distracted Hijo del Tirantes and snuck in a behind the back foul to beat Lanzeloth. They took his mask too.

Thoughts: 

Super Fly’s usual ankle breaking spot

This week’s show as the Vampiro show, as much as it’s been since he’s been back. The cage match post match was designed to set up a TripleMania match or two, but the key focus was on Vampiro standing up to the new big scary heel and thwarting his plan. The main event had ref bumps seemingly just so Vampiro could be the big hero at the end, and a bit that put the spotlight on him instead of the guys who won the match and are headlining the biggest show of the year.

The main event seemed on paper like it would be a match to show Wagner & Psycho are way above every one else. It didn’t turn out to be that at all. It was a frustratingly even match throughout. Everyone did a big move, everyone did a dive spot, everyone ripped someone’s mask and eveyrone’s got their mask ripped up. Usually all in turn, one after another, as if they were going around in a circle during a preschool match. They even gave the other four a long visual pin over the guys who are main eventing TripleMania. Maybe it was intended to scare people into believing the impossible to happen, but it didn’t sound like the fans bought at all that much. After all that effort to make everyone see the same importance, Carta Brava & Soul Rocker’s mask removal seemed rush and unimportant. When the entire year is built around how meaningful it’ll be for one person or another to lose their mask, you’d think that act would be played up a little better, and less like a minor stipulation the heels were almost escaping.

The opener was better than the last version of that match because the handicap match really didn’t have anything going on it with it. It also helped by the rudos going out of their way to try to make Lanzelot look like someone special as a surprise guy; they even did the Mistico toss spot with him. He did well except for one weird spot with Super Fly, but then was beat and humiliated at the end so I’m not sure how much was really accomplished. La Parka slows this matches down so much, and the rudos seem uninterested in doing anything much during the three minutes they control at the start of every one of these.

what was Parka doing

Volador/UG & Pierroth/Vangellys tonight, The Crash in Tijuana, Alberto/MDA

tonight

CMLL’s annual Universal tournament concludes tonight. Either Ultimo Guerrero becomes the first and only three time champion, or Volador Jr. will no longer be the most important guy in CMLL not to have won this tournament. This is not exactly a new matchup – they headlined the FantasticaMania tour in January and headlined a couple shows last year – and it’s probably not a new match up in style quality.  Ultimo Guerrero and Volador do some very exciting things in their matches. The downside is they tend to do the same very exciting things in all their matches. Both are proponents of CMLL’s checklist match style, where important matches are about fulfilling the fan’s expectations of seeing the same big moves in the same fashion. UG’s usually worse about it, insisting on doing those same spots in the same order. (The front superplex much come before the super powerbomb.) It turns a match into a performance, into a stage play being doing routinely.

I’m sure there are differences and insights gleamed from watching a great actor play Hamlet for the thirteenth time, but I’d rather see a different story or a different role. The match will get over – they’re great actors who will perform their roles as well as anyone, and it’s the kind o high level match that will blow away people who are seeing them for their first time or even the fifth. It’s definitely arguable the problem is less about them, and how we – or I! – consume CMLL, that luchadors should not be required to reinvent themselves on a regular basis to appear to the every show fans, and that perfecting a formula is the better way to reach a mass audience. Still, it’s a high level match that I’m not all that excited in watching.

I’m not arguing the other singles match, Pierroth versus Vangellys in a hair match, will be any better. It will be bad. It will be atrocious. The difference is we don’t know exactly in what ways it will be terrible, but I’d kind of prefer not actually knowing. CMLL has never been concerned about putting bad looking matches in the ring if they had a good reason for it – think back to all the rough main events featuring the previous Pierroth in his bad army days, and you can see them similarly hoping the heavy angles they’ve run building up to the match will compensate for the low quality of action. The difference here is CMLL has tended to shy away from putting someone who lost an apuesta match into another one just a few months after. It’s a sign about how much the Munoz family means to CMLL right now that the least important person in the group – I think they’d agree with that – is getting two apuesta matches in four months.

My suspicions are Volador’s finally going to get the big red belt and that Vangellys is only in this spot because they needed someone with hair to feed to Pierroth build him back up.

The semimain may turn out to be the best match on the show yet. Caristico’s talked a few times about putting together a trio of himself, Dragon Lee and Mistico, and they’re a trio here against the Hijos del Infierno in what should be a big exhibition match. The third match continues the Blue Panther/Sam Adonis issue, with Diamante Azul, Soberano Jr., Dragon Rojo Jr. and Negro Casas rounding out the match. The second match is a women’s match, possibly because CMLL booked a women’s match before they remembered Princesa Sugehit was out of town today. Without her, Silueta appears to step in as Zeuxis’ rival for the night. Silueta teams with Vaquerita & Marcela against Amapola, Dalys and Zeuxis, and all six women figure to be back next week as part of the Copa Natalia Vazquez. The opener has Astral, Sensei, and Star Jr. versus Akuma, Arkangel and Matelicao.

CultIcon also previews this show. It’ll air at 8:30pm on the old ClaroSports page and also on Facebook. CMLL will have it on their YouTube channel about an hour after it ends.

The other major show tonight is The Crash out in Tijuana. The main event is a four way Penta 0M, La Mascara, Jeff Cobb and the debuting Marty Scurll. Maximo & Garza Jr. team up against Daga & Santo Jr., who is also making his debut with the promotion. I think Scurll will do fine, but I have concerns about how Santo Jr. is going to do. This is not the style of show or match he’s worked in Mexico so far, but he’s going to eventually have to find a way to excel in them if the third generation Santo is going to be an important person on his own – there’s not enough companies like FULL promoting traditional style lucha libre to solely make your name on those. (It’d equally be good for The Crash if Santo worked out here, since there are potential fans who probably only pay attention that name.) Nothing I’ve seen so far with Santo Jr. suggests this is going to work out great, but one good match could change some minds.

Jack Evans takes on Bestia 666 in a super libre match which continues to build to a hair match. War Machine face Rey Horus & Rey Fenix (The King) and Sami Callihan & Shane Strickland in a three way tag match. Oraculo & Serpentico vs Black Danger & Jonathan meet in a tag match, where Oraculo & Danger seem headed to a mask match. The opener has Arkangel Divino, Black Boy and the debuting Ultimo Panda against Eli Everfly, Famous B and Ultimo Maldito.

Again, The Crash show is not streaming anywhere – it was close enough to happening that it got mentioned on Konnan’s podcast but it didn’t get done in time again. Konnan’s said he’ll have video on his Patreon again. I still haven’t heard from anyone who saw the last show, but maybe I’ll jump into it this weekend.

This is from a few days ago: Alberto’s announced for MDA’s next show on 07/23 in Monterrey. MDA posted that on Monday, just before his week started to unravel. MDA’s also promoting the AAA TV taping this Sunday in Monterrey, and they’ve focused on that instead of saying any more about Alberto or that 07/23 show.

Metro.co.uk has an interview with Angelico. Angelico’s been wrestling in Europe since March, but mentioned he’s back in Mexico this weekend, and is scheduled on shows in Sinaloa today and tomorrow. I’d be surprised if he didn’t show up as an addition to Sunday’s TV taping. It may not be a forever thing; Angelico’s always been a nomad and mentions in the article that he’s been thinking of leaving Mexico and going to Europe for a year or two. Angelico notes he hasn’t made any decisions, he just has a lot of ideas of things he could try. He says nice things about Lucha Underground and seems to want to keep working there if/when they come back for Season 4, but also says his short term goal is to stay without a contract.

Lucha Underground promoted Johnny Mundo appearing on the PW Blitz (Illinois) show on 08/12. I can’t remember them promoting Lucha Underground guys on indie shows before. It’s not mentioned in the Twitter plug, but Mil Muertes is on there in character, so maybe licensing the LU gimmick will start to come with a social media mention (which would work better if they mentioned Mil was going to be on the show.)

DJZ is the guest on Colt Cabana’s podcast this week, and he talks a fair bit about his experiences in Mexico – including the injury. He says CMLL offered him a contract after his match with Hip Hop Man in the Elite tournament, and he credits +LuchaTV for making fans in Mexico aware of him enough in the first place to get him booked down there. (It’s a great minute of podcast when both +LuchaTV and Jocay come up right after each other.)

The new AAA Panini stickers will also in boxes of 50 stickers for ($22). They’ll sell them in individual packets for cheaper than that (and I haven’t seen how much), but the box is good if you’re trying to collect them all.

Guapito talks up his tag match with Zacarias against Gallito & Microman tomorrow in Morelos. Mije had other things to do, I guess.

CMLL notes today is the 11th anniversary of Misterioso taking Pantera (II)’s mask in a miscellaneous midcard cage match. Pantera’s claimed he wasn’t paid for the match and continues to wear his mask.

Garza Jr. is teasing something with Pagano again. This went nowhere last time.

Apolo Valdes writes about wrestling now against each other.

The Crash will debut in Torreon on 10/08.

AAA has this week’s Zona Ruda on their YouTube page. Hijo del Fantasma is the studio guest.

Fuego en el Ring has a new edition of their podcast up.

Segunda Caida reviews Demus vs Black Terry.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

1986 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

El Siglo de Torreon

I added 1986 lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio, to the luchadb database over the last week. They’re integrated the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. I am really just copying this text and changing the date.

This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. Of note this time, the text descriptions of cards disappear during the year – they’re gone pretty much from April ’86 to April ’87. I thought I screwed up my notes some how and deleted 12 months of content, but went back and double checked and couldn’t find any. There’s plenty of posters still, so I would guess the job of writing the very PR-like previews was simply empty for a while.

There are couple national articles that come thru. Angel Blanco’s fatal accident, which also ended Dr. Wagner Sr.’s career, happens this year. It’s underrated how amazing it was for UWA to not really suffer from losing those two and Solitario in a short time – it’s how loaded they were with stars at that point. There’s also an article about Fray Tormenta, the type that pops up ever 15 months even now.

The schedule is generally the same: Arena Olimpico Laguan on Thursdays, Auditorio and Palacio de Los Deportes most Sundays. UWA/LLI wrestlers are seen more often than EMLL ones, women are around a bit more often, and there’s no great continuity over championships. Pantera del Ring (Ephesto) & Megatron I disappear for most of the second half of the year. They’re around for just one match in October, where it’s mentioned they’ve been in wrestling in Mexico City. I don’t think we have any 1986 Pantera del Ring EMLL appearances, but I suspect we might find them if we had full Naucalpan lineups – or maybe there’s another gimmick we’re missing? And I have no idea who Megatron I ended up being.

 

lucha TV preview for weekend of July 13th

full size

CMLL Claro has two big singles matches. You may have heard.

AAA starts the Nuevo Laredo taping, which was a month ago, which I could’ve pass a test on without looking at the lineup. They did a lot of angles.

Puebla has one more Niebla Roja vs Ultimo Guerrero.

great match roundup, week of 2017-07-01

Fox tope

This week, I could be barely bothered to put these up after they were done. It was that kind of week.

I need to watch the indie stuff and not the CMLL stuff. Will I? No. I will play some PS4 instead.

the few actual good matches

rating matches TV Show taped
good Drone vs Puma in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-04 2017-07-04
good Dragón Azteca Jr. vs Dante Fox [Cueto Cup] and [16f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-05 2016-05-08
good Mephisto vs Mistico for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07

Other stuff watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Máscara de Bronce vs Hernandez Hernandez Vs Máscara de Bronce en Verano de Escándalo - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-01 2017-06-04
ok Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba for the hair CABELLERA VS CABELLERA: Mamba Vs Pimpinela - Verano de Escándalo - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Mamba vs Pimpinela cabellera vs cabellera verano de escándalo 2017 (posted by Mr Luchas) Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba, hair vs hair (posted by thecubsfan) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-01 2017-06-04
ok Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs El Mesías & Pagano © and Aerostar & Drago and Australian Suicide & Bengala for the AAA World Tag Team Championship Mesías destruye a Pagano en Verano de Escándalo - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-01 2017-06-04
ok Asturiano, Black Tiger, Meyer vs El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-03 2017-07-03
ok Marcela vs Dalys in a lightning match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-03 2017-07-03
ok Soberano Jr., Stigma, Titán vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-03 2017-07-03
ok Espíritu Maligno vs Ares for the hair LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-03 2017-07-03
ok Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Kráneo, Mephisto, Ripper LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-03 2017-07-03
ok Fantasy & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-04 2017-07-04
ok Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei vs Metálico, Misterioso Jr., Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-04 2017-07-04
ok Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-04 2017-07-04
ok Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-04 2017-07-04
ok Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-04 2017-07-04
ok PJ Black vs Sexy Star [Cueto Cup] and [16f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-05 2016-05-08
ok Son of Havoc vs Son Of Madness [Cueto Cup] and [16f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-05 2016-05-08
ok La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, La Seductora, Zeuxis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Blue Panther, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Sam Adonis, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Niebla Roja & Soberano Jr. vs Último GuerreroDiamante AzulMephistoMarco CorleoneMisticoEphesto for the CMLL Universal Championship and in a battle royal match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Marco Corleone vs Último Guerrero for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Ephesto vs Diamante Azul for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Soberano Jr. vs Niebla Roja for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Diamante Azul vs Último Guerrero for the CMLL Universal Championship and in a tournament quarterfinal match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Niebla Roja vs Mistico for the CMLL Universal Championship and in a tournament quarterfinal match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
ok Último Guerrero vs Niebla Roja for the CMLL Universal Championship and in a tournament semifinal matchLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
below average Pierroth, Rush, Último Guerrero vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-03 2017-07-03
bad Pierroth, Ripper, Rush vs Shocker, Terrible, Vangellys in a relevos increíbles match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-07 2017-07-07
not rated Prince Puma vs Ricky Mandel [Cueto Cup] and [16f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-05 2016-05-08

 

Alvarados vs Rebelion vs Parks in LLB, Octagoncito/Impact

photo by Black Terry Jr.

LLB NOBA (WED) 07/12/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)SuperLuchas]
1) Toxin Boy b Fly StarTromba
2) Fandango, Kronoz, Shadow, Yoruba b Atomic Star, Chico Che, Hijo del Alebrije, Ojo De Halcón
Kronos & Ojo de Halcon were added to the match. Chico Che was hurt during the match but left on his own power.
3) Fantasma de la Ópera b Fresero Jr.Ángel o DemonioCerebro NegroOvettHerodesCarta Brava Jr. (IWRG)
Fantasma fouled Fresero for the win.
4) Arez, Belial, Freelance, Mr. Águila, Suicida b Aspirantito, Emperador Azteca, Eterno, Golden Magic, Imposible
LLB vs IWRG. Mr. Aguila replaced Aspirantito, who moved to the other team to replace Baxter.
5) Pirata Morgan & Sharlie Rockstar b Garza Jr. & Zorro
Garza & Zorro didn’t get along.
6) La Máscara & Máximo DQ Daga & Penta 0M and Hijo de LA Park & LA Park Los Alvarado vs La Rebelion vs L.A. Parks BOOM en la Arena Naucalpan (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
Hijo de LA Park was LA Park’s mystery partner. Lots of fouls, with Penta being DQed for one on Maximo. They challenged for a cage match with those six with hair and mask on the line (which is not happening)

Good crowd, bad main event finish. The usual!

This week’s Keepin it 100 with Konnan includes a discussion about how it came to be that Octagoncito was in Impact. Konnan says Impact originally wanted to do Torito/Hornswaggle, but Konnna pushed them in the direction of Torito/Demus as a much better match. Demus was up for it, but Torito (Mascarita Dorada) had knee surgery two months ago and it was taking longer to recover than expected. Torito told Konnna a few days ahead of time that he was out and Konnan isn’t using many minis, so he suggested Impact ask AAA for one, suggesting Mascarita Sagrada or Octagoncito. (Konnan says now he should’ve thought about Dinastia.) Konnan figures AAA picked Octagoncito as a way to try and get him back to working with them, and believes AAA may bring in Torito in the future. Konnan also talked a little bit about The Crash, saying they’ve made money on every show except the Mexico City one (which is blamed on being a Wednesday.)

Also on that podcast, it’s explained that the AAA storyline is Johnny Mundo brought in Kevin Kross to watch his back, but then also brought in Hernandez because he was concerned Kross might turn on him. None of that has been explained on TV, as noted on the podcast – they instead asked Kevin Kross, who explained it. Maybe I need to get Kevin Kross to write the AAA recaps.

CMLL’s sending out pieces about how important women’s wrestling has been to them, which feels a little hollow when they gloss over how they didn’t fight the ban of women wrestling for 30 years and all. The women disappearing again in the last 90s and early 00s is treated as an unnamed promoter (AAA) lying to the women about how much better they were going to have it with them but not actually supporting them. CMLL didn’t have women’s matches because CMLL wasn’t interested in having women’s matches until the popularity of Dark Angel caused them to give it another try. Sarah Stock gets a throwaway mention, as if Dian La Cazadora was a bigger deal.

Negro Casas says he tries to pass on everything he was taught to younger generations. He has no thought of retiring.

CaraLucha & Kamicazes del Ring are copromoting a show in Arena San Juan on 07/21, a benefit show for Danger King. Bandido (Elite) versus Flyer (KDR) versus Templario (Caralucha) will be the three way, three champions main event

Tortas Super Astro is running LA Park & Hijo de LA Park vs Dragon Lee & Rush on 07/29 in Arena Lopes Mateos.

AAA’s new TripleMania 25 album will be out July 19th.

Jeff Jarrett says GFW is working on which AAA wrestlers will be on their August 4-6 shows. AAA has spot shows on those days already, but they pulled Fantasma off of them when they needed him for GFW shows so I’d expect the same.

AAA’s show on Front Runner TV is already showing repeats. The success of the NJPW English show on AXS show has been based on having a hot product with buzz, but also because there’s a new hour (and now two) just about every single Friday. Both the CMLL and AAA English language shows have failed at the simple task of airing a new episode each week, and it can’t be simply The Fight Network’s fault if it’s happening elsewhere too.

The Alberto story did finally get mentioned on Record after the suspension was announced.

Lucha Memes/MDA in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara on 08/06:
1) Dr. Cerebro vs Virus in a match where no one is allowed to use the ropes

CultIcon and TKD review this week’s Lucha Underground.

An interview with Morelos luchador Sombra Azteca.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-07-04 

Dronesault

Recapped: 07/05/2017

Matches: 

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico on July 4th.

Fantasy & Stukita  beat  Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
(14:12 [7:16, 4:20, 2:36], 2/3 DQ, ok], via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei  beat  Metálico, Misterioso Jr., Sangre Azteca
(14:57 [6:23, 3:39, 4:55], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma  beat Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr.
(12:27 [6:03, 3:29, 2:55], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Drone beat  Puma in a lightning match
(8:31, headstand double knee smash, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther  beat  Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(11:23 [5:19, 2:46, 3:18], 1/3, ok, via  VideosOficialesCMLL)

Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr.  beat  Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas
(6:58 [2:05, 1:23, 3:30], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Tuesday night action

Universo 2000 hurt is wrist on his second fall finish on Fuego. He can’t hold him down right for a pin, but Tirantes won’t count because Fuego’s shoulders aren’t down. Universo and Tirantes have words as Universo leaves the ring to check with the doctor and then go to the back. It’s a sudden injury that not obvious about what happened, but CMLL is aware enough not to replay it.

Misterioso replaced Arkangel in the second and feuded with Flyer, including Flyer getting the surprise pinfall when Misterioso wasn’t paying attention in the second fall and Misterioso taking Flyer’s mask after the third fall. Flyer had a new (at least to me) tattoo down his spine.

Pequeño Nitro unmasked Fantasy out of nowhere. No one saw it coming, especially not the producer who gave us a clean shot of Fantasy’s unmasked face.

Thoughts: 

don’t dive at Puma slolwy

The ending visual was cool but there’s nothing else to really watch in the main event. I’m not sure if Volador had a new look gear or just wrestled the entire match in his entrance gear, but it was about the effort you’d expect in a Tuesday main event. Diamante Azul looked worse here than his other match and his tope to the floor is oddly bad.

The semimain easily the most fun trios match of the card, but noticeably less than their usual matches and it’s hard not to downgrade it from there. The NGD are still such a good trio that they should never ever break them up; they get the idea of being a team and working together on stuff. Not sure Panther Jr. landed one of his many quebradoras clean, and his STF at the end was so slow that I was wondering if he was hurt somehow. His brother just randomly flying thru the ring to get in an extra tope was wonderful.

The lightning match was a total action match, though maybe too much action – the first half felt definitely like it was scenes from a 15 minute match being cut down to 8. They were just going for the big spots with not as much in between. It showed signs they could they have a real great match in them, but made this felt a bit disjointed. Still a lot here to like, they mesh well with each other and did some creative stuff in the fake finishing sequence.

the end

I have no notes about the tercera, but don’t remember it being all that much outside the injury.

Misterioso, subbing in lower then his usual position, looked that much better than everyone else. He’s pretty much wrestling the same match every time out, but he’s not screwing up things like Principe Diamante and Sangre Azteca in this. Sensei & Metálico had a rough third fall exchange for guys who work together all the time. The finish here made the técnicos look like chumps, as normal.

The opener was typically unmemorable. The rudos played a little stronger rudos than usual and Fantasy was a bit more fired up, maybe because he’s getting an actual feud. Stukita remains much better than he should be for his spot.

Lucha Underground 3×26: A Fenix to a Flame

bad times for Paul London

Matches

Jeremiah Crane beat Taya (6:23, Cranium Contusion, good)

Mil Muertes beat Paul London (9:29, flatliner, good)

Fenix beat Marty Martines (10:31, backslide cradle, good)

Developments

The Cueto Cup moved onto the second round, but it didn’t really move on in content. There were only three matches this week, but it remains purely on this the tournament. The tradeoff is having one less match meant everything got time; two matches went about ten minutes and they still had time left to let the main event angle fully play out.

The first two matches went as mostly expected. Jeremiah Crane defeated Taya in the opener, with a little interference from Sexy Star. Her appearance didn’t cause Taya to immediately lose, but things went downhill for her soon after and Crane moved on with a win. Sexy Star has not moved on from her tournament loss, waking Taya up here to knock her right back out with a brass kuncks aided punch. Crane has a fantastic chance of winning this if he can keep fighting people who have other issues. Unfortunately for him, the guy he faces next round has a big issue with him.

Mil Muertes showed absolutely no affect from Crane’s attack to him a couple weeks back. Paul London’s silliy antics and randomness didn’t affect him much either. Paul London spamming the superkick button did seem to work for a moment, and Mala Suerte running into a Mil Muertes punch did open the door for a London shooting star press. That only got two, a follow up SSP still got two, and Mil finished taking care of business soon after. Mil faces Crane in the quarterfinals.

Fenix superkick (sounded like a shotgun blast)

The main event got a bit more serious. Beforehand, Aerostar and Fenix chatted for a moment, with Aerostar’s encouragement being meant by a well meaning wisecrack – “It’s not really fair to let a time traveler gamble!” Aerostar tried to diffuse any notion he actually traveled time, but that ability to see the future is making him a bit pessimistic about freeing Drago from the Reptile Tribe. The good news for Drago is Aerostar probably can’t see the future that welll, or he would’ve warned Fenix about his match with Marty.

Marty was putting himself in Melissa Santos personal space from the get go, bringing a lunch box and trying to force a sandwich in her mouth pre-match. Melissa escaped and cheered Fenix strongly during the match. Mariposa tried to pass the lunchbox to Marty late in it, but Melissa got involved for the first time to stop it. Fenix won soon after (don’t get distracted!) and will be in the quarterfinals against the winner of Cage & Pindar. Fenix might be still hurting when that match comes around: Marty smacked him with the lunchbox post match, pulled out a metal fork from inside, and repeatedly stabbed Fenix with it. LU stuck with this bit for a while, as Marty licked Fenix’s head and the fork for good measure. Mariposa forced Melissa to helplessly watch the entire attack. That ended the show, but this issue is clearly not over.

The announcers revealed next week will have three more second round matches: Cage versus Pindar, PJ Black versus Prince Puma and Dante Fox versus Son of Havoc. That leaves Pentagon versus Drago and the Mack versus Texano for two weeks from now. We saw a bit of the last man in a bar. Brenda showed up to flirt with Texano (when she wasn’t calling him boring), and a gleeful Famous B watched from afar. Maybe they’ll have made a deal by the time we see Texano next.

Thoughts

London dying again

Everything felt good on this show and it was an enjoyable hour, even if nothing felt specifically great. If this is generally the pacing of show we’re going to get the next two weeks, it’s going to be a better round.

Still, the show being so totally on the Cueto Cup has caused so many other things to just disappear off the side. The two skits didn’t really advance anything, but just seemed to exist to remind you the Drago mindwashed slave plot and Famous B recruiting Texano plots are still active plots even if they haven’t been seen in a month. There’s stuff like Cage’s murder of Delgado and whatever happened to Matanza which have just not gotten the attention they needed. (Conversely, there was no Mundo/Rey bit this week and I didn’t even notice until I got to writing this.)

The opener felt disappointing, but only because I had heard it was a really noteworthy match and it was just a good match. It was more the story of the match, of Taya coming back after being squashed for the first couple minutes, that made it work even more than the moves. The crowd reacted to it a lot stronger than we were seeing on screen, so maybe it got lost in the editing a bit. That crowd reaction did help Taya come off as a big star, and also kind of turned her face in the process. Which made the Sexy Star thing come off more vindictive than it probably was meant to be – like, congrats for knocking out someone who was already semiconscious, great accomplishment.

Fenix dive

London/Mil got there in the end, but it took a long bit of London playing his character and getting occasionally beat up to get to that point. The checklist seemed something like Mil being a monster, London being weird, and getting the one convincing near fall off a shooting star press, and they hit everything on the list, but it felt like it was wasting my time for a bit. Maybe if London doesn’t fool around for seven minutes and doesn’t seem to get his hope comeback with infinite superkick spot then the first shooting star press doesn’t have that feeling of a maybe shocking win, but I spend a fair chunk of this time wondering why it wasn’t going to the opener instead.

I had no such reservations about the main event. My perspective is colored by other events, but Fenix & Marty have surprisingly good chemistry for being very different wrestlers, and Marty doing the frustrated for not being able beat anyone bit everyone does actually works a lot better with the story they’re telling. I wasn’t looking for forks in my lucha libre, but they did get 100% out of this one, giving it time for Marty to make the attack count instead of rushing to something else, and even having the announcers quiet down when the visuals were all we needed. The distraction finishes are still coming too often, though they were self conscious enough in this set to make sure the finishes didn’t come exactly after, and this story needed Melissa to get involved for the first time to actually advance the story.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-07-03 

Espiritu Maligno senton

Recapped: 07/04/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla, 07/03/2017 

Matches: 

Asturiano, Black Tiger, Meyer beat  El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar
(13:35 [6:38, 2:41, 4:16], 1/3, ok)

Marcela  beat  Dalys in a lightning match

(7:56, Michinoku Driver, ok, viaVideosOficialesCMLL)

Soberano Jr., Stigma, Titán  beat  Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
(12:22 [5:49, 2:59, 3:34], 2/3, ok, via  VideosOficialesCMLL)

Espíritu Maligno  beat Ares in a hair vs hair match (14:37, 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Ares double amrbar (2:04)

  2. Espíritu Maligno seated nudo (2:56)

  3. Espíritu Maligno alejandrina (9:37)

Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr.  beat Kráneo, Mephisto, Ripper
(12:20 [6:10, 6:10], 1/2, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Pierroth, Rush, Último Guerrero beat  Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible

(10:18 [2:21, 3:47, 4:10], 1/3, below average, via  VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Ares out of control tope

The Fake Sombra – or a different one – was with Rush & Pierroth as with Friday. This time, the announcers didn’t shy away from identifying him, going the other way and definitively saying this was the real La Sombra we had seen for a while. The actual Manny Andrade traveled back to his hometown during the rest of the week and then went back to NXT. Since the idea is this is the real Sombra, the Fake Sombra went away too, at least until the next NXT vacation.

Diamante Azul wore a half Metro mask, though the announcers just referred to it as something from his past. (Metro was a sponsor , and maybe “was” is the reason it didn’t get named.) Kraneo fouled Volador for the DQ, something that went nowhere even though they were on opposite sides again the following week.

Both men came to the ring wearing their old mask for the hair match. Tirantes slow counted during the match, even at one point in the third fall where Ares appeared to pull Espíritu before the finish. Ares got his head shaved in the ring, and threw some of it at Espiritu.

Misterioso attacked Soberano at the start of their match, but fooled around and got cradled by Soberano at the end. Misterioso still took Soberano’s mask after the match.

Dalys came thru the crowd to attack Marcela to start the match. It helped her control Marcela for the first three minutes of the match, but she still ultimately lost to Marcela’s tapatia. Marcela challenged for a title shot next week.

Thoughts: 

Dalys facelslam

There wasn’t much reason to expect a lot out of the main event, given who was involved. They delivered on less than that. Rush & Pierroth only seemed to be interested when they were doing the Sombra angle, and not into the match at all. Rey Bucanero was doing the most on each team, but there wasn’t much to be had with the other guys. Shocker didn’t seem keen on taking the corner dropkick with his messed up jaw. This was a waste of time.

The semimain wasn’t much, an easy night for some guys who’ve had long days lately. Volador’s schedule probably caused this to be an off night for him, but it’s not like he was holding back this one. It was inactive and tedious, especially during the rudo controlled second fall. Diamante Azul easily slamming Kranoe was one of the more impressive things he’s done. His tope was not.

The hair match was a disappointment. The feud has been badly done, but Arena Puebla talking them into it seemed likely and there waas a big crowd there. They just didn’t come across as caring that much, and the match was just a collection of moves with no meaning. They built it around a surprising amount of dives, especially Ares doing more here than he’s done in the entire feud to this point, and those looked good, but it didn’t feel like it was going anywhere before the finish. Tirantes slow counts were really annoying on this show, and he just takes over the match for a couple minutes in the early with them and with arguing with both guys. I think it’s an attempt to get head for a match that isn’t really getting one – if the fans are booing him, at leas they’re making some noise – but it doesn’t get that reaction and it felt like the moment to check out on this match.

Kraneo, leveled

The lightning match was technically but the crowd did not seem to care about it at all. They did the things sort of bits that should make for an exciting match, and had more believable near endings than typical for a lightning match. The crowd just didn’t seem all that into it. Dalys moved way to the side on Marcela’s corner dropkick. I wouldn’t want to take it either.

This tercera got better as it went along but not so much that it felt totally watchable. It was really just the Soberano show, with him and Misterioso working their feud pretty well. I hope they’re actually heading to the match because their interactions have gotten better as they’ve gone along. Sagrado remains really good, both at talking the fancy offense and doing little things for the tecnicos.

The opener was more aggressive than usual, probably because it was a big show, but the energy didn’t translate into an interesting match. It was a few more action but not much stood out and it still came off as slow at times. Doing the dive tease and having both guys slide out instead just sort of made everyone look dumb, as usual. Every fall ended with a top rope move and only Black Tiger’s senton at the end looked good.