10/18 Lucha Underground Results

Lucha Underground (SAT) 10/18/2014 Lucha Underground Temple, Boyle Heights, Los Angeles, California
1) Son of Havoc b El Americano
Dark match (though Havoc cut a promo before the match.)
2) Cage b Angélico, Aerostar, Argenis
AAA debutantes looked good in their spots, but this was more about getting Cage over. The next segment (unrelated to the match) had Chavo Guerrero Jr. coming out to apologize to Blue Demon Jr. Crowd (mostly unaware of what he was apologizing for) rooted for Blue Demon Jr. to beat up Chavo, and Demon obliged with chair shots. After Demon left, Catrina and Mil Muertes came in the ring to give Chavo the Kiss of Death.
3) Prince Puma © b Fenix (AAA) [LUCHA UNDERGROUND CHAMP]
Prince Puma’s first defense in an excellent high flyer vs high flyer match.
4) Drago (AAA) DCOR King Cuerno [three falls match]
main event of first taping. Drago did a second floor dive onto Cuerno, which along with the finish set up the falls count anywhere match.
5) ? & Cortez Castro b Mascarita Sagrada 2007 & Pimpinela Escarlata
opener of the second episode. Castro (Reyes) teamed with a member of his usual group, not specified which one. It was not Big Zeke – he came out after the match and was attacked by his (former?) partners.
6) Pentagón Jr. b Súper Fly
Pentagon Jr. showcase. Pentagon appealed to Vampiro to mentor him (similar to Konnan and Prince Puma? Pentagon appears to be next title challenger.)
7) Sexy Star b Mariachi Loco
8) King Cuerno b Drago (AAA) [falls count anywhere]
Cuerno used the top rope to choke out Drago for the win. Cuerno appeared to be doing

Air date: a month that ends in “y”. Probably January. We’ll come back to this in a bit, because I’d rather talk about the matches.

Everyone’s just raving about Fenix/Puma. There are other strong matches on this taping – both Drago/Cuerno matches and the four way match were specifically touted to me – but Puma/Fenix is said to be a possible match of the year.

They were already busy setting up challengers. Tecnico Prince Puma works well against rudo Pentagon Jr., rudo King Cuerno (once he’s done with Fenix) and rudo Mil Muertes. I don’t think all of those things are going to happen on Sunday’s taping – that should probably be seen as a taping break point, but not a storyline break point. (If there was one of those in this batch, it probably was the Prince Puma title win in the prior episode.)

Greatly amused by a tease of a Vampiro/Konnan issue. It is a feud which will never die, which will out live us all, and which now exists in multiple realities. Also, I guess Vampiro is meant to be a rudo? Or maybe Pentagon will have to convince him to be one again? Vamp’s not presented as a rudo (or a tecnico) in the material released so far, so we’ll have to wait and find out.

The Chavo stuff is interesting. We’re missing a bit of results, so some stuff has to be guessed at – presumably whatever went down with Big Ryck and his crew to break them up happened at the last set of tapings – and I’m guessing Sexy Star won the feud over Chavo (because she kind of had to.) Chavo definitely gets the worst of his issue with Blue Demon here, and his odds against Mil Muertes seem bad. This is not the high profile heel run it looked after that second show, but a guy with some name value putting over people left and right. I wonder Mil Muertes might finish off Chavo and he’s not much of a key onscreen figure going forward (but still has the same backstage responsibilities.) I’m not looking to run off Chavo here, just trying to make sense of a pattern.)

It’s not hard to figure who the top guys are supposed to be here. Lucha Underground has clearly decided who their stars are and are completely behind them. Prince Puma’s the man here, but they’re also focusing a lot on Fenix, King Cuerno and Pentagon Jr. (who may have worked his way into the mix like always.) That’s a pretty exciting top 4. Other people may be breaking into that mix – Cage and Mundo are harder to place – but there’s not a slug among them. The names picked are amazing for someone who’s watched AAA the last few years. One dissatisfaction I – and others – have with AAA is there’s never the big singles matches between the young wrestlers, and instead they just get thrown together multiman matches. So what AAA has done here is created a wholly separate promotion where they’re running the type of singles matches I’ve been wanting to see so long, and they brought along Ricochet Helios in a new mask just for fun. (It’s so nice of them, thanks!)

As a card carrying member of the Aerostar fan club, I would’ve liked them to do much more with him here, but they’re throwing a lot of new names and faces at the audience at one and they’ve got to keep a narrow focus on the ones who really matter at first if they’re getting over. It looks like that’s what they’re doing and it looks like it’s going to work. Eventually it’ll be time for new faces and hopefully he (and Jack Evans and let’s not make a list here but you get the idea) get a shot to be those new faces, but once they decided who to go with at first, it’s got to be this way for everyone else for now.

Kind of curious about the dark matches. They’ve been pretty consistent on taping them, even on shows like this where they might be more concerned about burning out the crowd. There must be a reason – maybe they’ll be released as extra content (YouTube bonus matches? DVD extras?) or maybe they’ll be subbed in as real matches if something doesn’t go right.

One last taping going on right now, and then they’re done until January. Well, the luchadors are done taping matches, but I’d guess there’s still going to be plenty of busy people putting these things together.

And hopefully announcing air times. Let’s unpack that here: Lucha Underground announced the 10/29 show would be a two hour premiere (the first two episodes airing back to back) when it was pushed back from the official start date. The TV listings for 10/29 El Rey started turning up yesterday with just one new hour of Lucha Underground. El Rey’s own website (and Comcast’s listings) have it as a 2 hour show. Meanwhile, there’s still no official announcement of the Unimas airing of the show That was expected to start Saturday 11/01, airing something 4pm, but no one’s said anything and we’re less than two weeks out from that now.

That’s what we know officially. Unofficially…eh. Kind of tired of trying to sleuth things out on this front and getting nowhere. I know Lucha Underground and Unimas were talking the last few days and they want to get the deal done. I know it’s going to be an obstacle if that doesn’t come thru, but either the show airs or doesn’t – there’s no point in speculating at this point, we’re going to know soon enough. Same thing with the El Rey two hour slot: if it’s two hours, the social media accounts will loudly proclaim that for the next 10 days. If it’s only one hour, they’ll quietly announce the change but we’ll still know. If it’s only on El Rey, that’ll be sad for those who don’t have the network, but if you can find this obscure corner of the internet I’m pretty sure you’ll be able to find the show.

The questions about when/where the show will air are meaningful questions. But the others questions I wanted answered back in September have been pretty much been answered:

  • Will Lucha Underground have people I wanted to see on Lucha Underground? (YES)
  • Will Lucha Underground have matches I would like to see? (YES)
  • Does Lucha Underground appear to be something enjoyable to watch? (YES)

Yes, there’s still a thousand different ways what was taped in the building could turn out disappointing on the screen. You know I can come up with that cynical list if you’ve read this website for any length of time, but I’m not really too concerned about all those things. The foundation, especially as they get in deeper into the series, looks very solid. Lucha Undergroudn looks as good as could be expected. Maybe better.

Ten days to wait.

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Ultimo Guerrero outsmarts Rush

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 10/17/2014 Arena México
1) Astral & Eléctrico b Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito
2) Makoto, Narumiya, Zeuxis b Dark Angel, Lluvia, Marcela
3) Dragon Lee b Kamaitachi [lightning]
4) Mr. Niebla, Terrible, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Fuego, Titán
5) Euforia, Shocker, Thunder b Máscara Dorada, Máximo, Stuka Jr.
Stuka replaced Diamante Azul. Thunder powerbombed Dorada for the win.
6) Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero DQ La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush
Straight falls. UG faked a foul in the second. Rush and UG challenged for a singles match.

Terrible won! Also the main event does seem to be heading to a singles match. Very thin CMLL.com recap and no Twitter updates last night.

AAA’s already posted today’s TV, which includes a TV vignette teasing Electroshock’s retirement. The show announced TV tapings for 11/22 (Apizaco) and 11/28 (Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera). AAA likes to save it’s big angles for when it returns to Guerra de Titanes, but this time that would require holding much of the Guerra de Titanes card until less than 10 days after the event. Two tapings means there’s some of these (including Leon on 11/17) are one week tapings – or maybe they’re just dumping usual the three weeks of Best Of shows, because they’d have plenty of material to air thru the new year now. However it turns out, AAA’s going to go 36 days without a taping, then run four tapings in 20 days. It’s such a weird schedule.

Bill has a new channel and posted highlights of 03/02/14 CMLL.

Doradafan has highlights of 07/29/14 CMLL.

Atlantis poses with his collection of masks.

One more batch of Cara Lucha promos for today’s show: Xtreme Tiger, Triton, and Aeroboy.

Pentagon Jr. wants revenge on Myzteziz.

Another interview with Thunder.

El Brazo’s family is upset about others using his name.

Lineup

CMLL (FRI) 10/24/2014 Arena México
1) Oro Jr. & Soberano Jr. vs Disturbio & Guerrero Negro Jr.
2) Estrellita, Lluvia, Princesa Sugehit vs La Comandante, Makoto, Narumiya
3) Delta, Dragon Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Mephisto
4) Máximo vs Rey Escorpión [lightning]
5) Titán, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero vs La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush

Rematch in the main event, the Rey Escorpion/Maximo feud pops back up in the lightning match. Video promo has Hechicero.

Ingobernables/Guerrero, WWE to Mexico, Arena Coliseo San Luis Potosi to close?

I lost most of my post today. The writing part isn’t hard, but regathering all the links is insane. So not many links today.

CMLL’s main event today is Ingobernables against the Guerreros. That seems like a set up to a trios title match, but might instead end up with Rush/UG instead. We’ll find out more today. Semifinal includes Azul/Shocker feud, special gives Terrible a winnable match, Dragon Lee and Kamaitachi meet in the lightning match which might be a lot of fun, and might sneak on TV. And a women’s match and a good minis match round out the show.

WWE comes to Mexico this weekend with a stop in Mexico City on Saturday (mostly just cheap tickets left0 and Monterrey on Sunday (lots of tickets left). There’s no real buzz for this show, either positive or negative in response to the Alberto’s firing. I’d been expecting this would be the point we’d hear one more time from Alberto about his firing – after this point, it’s kind of old news – but there’s been nothing new there. For it’s part, the Mexican promoters of the WWE insisted there’s no racism, because why would they try to make money off Mexicans if they were racists? (Hmm.) Sin Cara says it’s divine justice that he’s now got the character and emphasized how he’s a much more complete wrestler (as if that’s what the Mexican fans were looking for.) He’ll face Fandango on the shows. Kalisto will not be on the shows.

Taya will apparently join Angelico, Aerostar and Argenis in making her Lucha Underground debut this weekend. An article announcing changes to a show in Villahermosa has Taya, Mascarita Sagrada, Pimpinela and Drago off the show because they’re headed to LA. (For what it’s worth, Taya hasn’t said anything about this and instead posted about going to the gym today instead of all the travel to LA messages everyone else seems post.) Daga is also mentioned as being off for surgery. Daga has missed his last few TV appearances with a knee injury but this is the first we’ve heard of his severity. Super Fly has also mentioned he’s headed to LA, so it wasn’t just a one time appearance.

SuperLuchas (with some help from Sabor del Ring, I think) reports Arena Coliseo San Luis Potosi may have be sold with plans of shutting it down for lucha libre. (Usually, this means tearing down the building and putting something else up, though that’s not said here.) No one’s confirming it – the promotion who runs Sunday shows there isn’t saying anything – but I can’t remember the last time I saw a decent looking crowd there. The building has been in existence since 1958 and has regularly held lucha libre events and other functions since that time. The article says there’s a plan for a final show in the building on 11/23 with local legends on the show. The change in the ownership would happen soon after.

They did an episode on this ownership situation on the El Rayo, Vida de Lucha reality show: Rayo de Plata was offered the chance to buy Arena Coliseo SLP but ultimately turned it down. It came off more as a TV storyline to provide Rayo an excuse to meet with old friends (and maybe a chance to show how the rival promotion in town was struggling and his place was doing better.) It wouldn’t have made sense for Rayo de Plata to buy it anyway, because the building they run is much smaller and they don’t seem to be filling it up.

SuperLuchas catches up with Hijo del Lizmark and says he’s one of the most in-demand independent luchadors. The numbers don’t seem to bear that out: we don’t get every lineup, but he’s been listed as being on only 9 shows since May and none this month. This is not meant as a criticism; I’d just assumed he’d moved onto other things. Anyway, the message of the interview is Hijo del Lizmark would definitely be interested in AAA if they called (but one would figure they probably already would’ve if they wanted him.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida reviews La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker

Cara Lucha posted a promo where the Magnificos have to withdraw from this weekend’s tag team, and Alfa & Omega will take their place.

Myzteziz says Copa Antonio Pena was one of the biggest winner of his year.

SuperLucha wonders if LA Park’s recent surgery might be the end of his career. Probably not. (LA Park questioning why promoters haven’t been helping out seems weird for an internet.)

Kcidis is working on a Lucha tatoo project.

Vengador Radioactivo is now Maximus.

Lineups

LyC (SUN) 11/30/2014 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Chamaco Gurrola & Tequilita vs Mini Difunto & Mini Hator
2) Halcon Real vs Demenzía, Medico Infernal, Memo Valles, Face Man, Kaientai, Gato Fantasma, Aguila Azteca
3) El Ninja, Ninja Jr., Ultimo Ninja vs Hijo Del Mongol Chino, Mongol Chino, Mongol Chino Jr.
4) El Pulpo, Hijo De Dos Caras, Tigre Universitario vs Canek Jr., Espectro II, Silver Star
5) Dos Caras Sr., Mil Mascaras, Sicodelico Sr. vs Angel Blanco Jr., El Hijo del Solitario, Pirata Morgan

The Mascaras brothers together for another maybe one last time, only Dos Caras seems unlikely to actually wrestle here due to his leg injury. Guess we’ll see.

10/18-19 lucha times

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Daylight savings time (different in US than Mexico) and Lucha Underground are coming, but this week is still normal.

== AAA ==

AAA-Televisa: the rest of the Zumpango taping, inculding Faby/Suicide vs Eterno/Sexy and Mesias/Myzteziz vs Perro/Texano.

== CMLL ==

FOX2: Copa VIP final and Ingobnerables vs Euforia/Thunder/UG

Azteca: a week behind, so Copa VIP Block B this week.

52MX: Volador vs Shocker.

Claro: The previews they taped prior to the taping did not seem to include one of the minis title match. The Cachorro/Pegasso/Triton vs Delta/Maya/Stuka match should be good anyway.

C3: Atlantis/Stuka/Valiente vs Peste Negra

TVC Deportes (Puebla): Gran/Niebla/UG vs Atlantis/Azul/Sombra

Terra Sunday: Diamante Azul vs Shocker

== Other ==

Noches de Coliseo: reruns

IWRG (LAS/AYM): Probably the Myzteziz show – except the Sunday airing has mysteriously disappered of the schedule. Someone wants to make sure I never get the Ninja Turtles match.

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Rudos gifted win in Naucalpan, Ultimo Guerrero says no to Dr. Wagner, Gronda vs Demon Clown

Los Gringos & Hip Hop Man temporarily stop the karate turtles photo by Black Terry Jr.

AAA IWRG (WED) 10/15/2014 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr),Estrellas del Ring, IWRG]
1) Emperador Azteca & Metaleon b Anubis Black & Atomic Star
straight falls.
2) Leo (IWRG), Mike, Rafy, Teelo b Apolo Estrada, Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Hip Hop Man
3) Jennifer Blake, La Jarochita, Súper Nova b Eterno, Sexy Lady, Taya Valkyrie
Jennifer beat Taya
4) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown DQ Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan
Hijo de Pirata tried sneaking in a foul on Monster but was caught.
5) Averno, Chessman, Texano Jr. DQ Hijo De Dos Caras, Myzteziz, Psycho Clown
Rudos took 1/3. Myzteziz got La Mistica on Averno, only for Chessman to hit both referees with a chair. Psycho got the chair and fought off the rudos, but the ref awoke to see Psycho with the chair and DQed him.

Fuego en el Ring has an interview with Ultimo Guerrero, who says an announced title match with him and Dr. Wagner in Merida is not happening – the card is false and he’s not going. UG says he no interest in Wagner coming back to CMLL, believing CMLL has their own stars and do not need Wagner. UG is asked about upcoming trios title defenses – he says he believes there’s one coming up soon in Puebla and maybe one more. There seems to be one set up for Friday night in Arena Mexico, but perhaps not. Puebla would mean Atlantis, Maximo and Valiente are probably getting a title match on 10/27.

This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter says AAA almost but didn’t sell out for San Luis Potosi, drawing 8,500 to Domo. (Capacity is listed as 11,000, though it’s always smaller when they start cutting off seats the set.) WON’s started reporting lucha attendance for regular shows the last few weeks – CMLL’s Friday crowd is listed at 4000.

The WON also mentions TNA’s Zema Ion is headed to Mexico while TNA is off the next few months. Ion helped Tigre Uno get into TNA, so I suspect this is Tiger repaying that favor. DTU’s anniversary shows are going to be announced next Friday, and Ion’s worked with them previously. Robbie E may also come to Mexico

Angelico, Aerostar and Argenis will debut on this weekend’s Lucha Underground tapings. Are they going alphabetical? Poor poor Soul Rocker. Aerostar and Angelico should be good.

Cassandro, Diva Salvaje, Puma and Niebla Roja are headed to Belgium for Halloween. Cassandro visited the Arena Mexico show on Tuesday and there’s a new video feature on him. Cassandro has been a world traveler for many years, but the New Yorker article has predictable opened up even more doors.

CMLL Informa had no real news and plenty of odd interviews. They interviewed the Japanese women (or mostly Okumura cutting promos for them), the Mexican women (and the Puerto Rican woman) and Diamante Azul. They’ve also put up the Stellar Moments for last week.

This week’s Tercera Caida was surely a better show even though I haven’t seen yet. The after the show video is up as well.

AAA’s posted this week’s TV show, with Fantasma vs Aerotar for the cruiserweight title.

Segunda Caida raves about the Negro Casas vs Rush hair match.

Kilvan and Yoruba are added to the CaraLucha tag tournament and a Super Nova promo for his match with Trauma II.

The outdoor lucha libre photo exhibit in Puebla has opened.

Lineup

IWRG (SUN) 10/19/2014 Arena Naucalpan
1) Saruman & Sky Ángel vs Araña de Plata & Atomic Star
2) Metaleon & Septimo Dragon vs Anubis Black & Hip Hop Man
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Canis Lupus, Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Spartan
4) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan Jr.
5) Grond XXX, Pantera, Veneno vs Demon Clown, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Pirata Morgan

Original Gronda versus Demon Clown. This a real main event, with a team of Gronda, the guy who won’t give up wearing his mask and crazy man of god Veneno. I don’t even know. Just put the turtles in the main event already. If you’re going to make ludicrous main events, at least make them fun.

CMLL Tuesday results, El Rayo renewed, Fuego & Dorada in BOSJ Tag

 

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 10/14/2014 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Camorra & Espanto Jr. b Flyer & Sensei
2) Black Panther, Oro Jr., Soberano Jr. b Canelo Casas, El Rebelde, Metálico
3) La Comandante, Makoto, Narumiya b Estrellita, Goya Kong, Princesa Sugehit
Debut for Makoto & Narumiya. Rudas took 2/3.
4) Rey Cometa DQ Niebla Roja [lightning]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6:27. Niebla Roja accidentally fouled Rey Cometa on a flapjack kick
5) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Boby Zavala, Hechicero, Rey Escorpión
Tecnicos took 2/3
6) Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente b Bárbaro Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
Tecnicos took 1/3, Atlantis beating Negro Casas.

The foul in the lightning match was after a complicated set up to Niebla Roja’s flapjack toss and kick to chest, only the kick didn’t hit the chest. Rey Cometa sold it like a foul so there was no choice but to call the DQ, but it was fluke ending to a match.

Not much going on. I watched Valiente/Mephisto last night – it was good! – but that was from a few weeks ago and they’re no sign of the usual monthly big match here. maybe they’ll throw together something next week.

CMLL (TUE) 10/14/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Metatrón & Star Jr. b Akuma & Ráfaga
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Meteoro b Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
Tecnicos took 2/3, Astral beating Pierrothito.
3) Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado b Esfinge, Gallo, Omar Brunetti
Rudos took 1/3, Pierroth beat Gallo.
4) Máximo b Rey Bucanero
Maximo took 2/3, winning the last in a kiss filled finished.
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Titán
Guerreros took 1/3.

Pierroth and Gallo is a frightening feud.

Today’s IWRG show has an infusion of AAA luchadors, with Myzteziz, Psycho Clown, Hijo de Dos Caras vs Averno, Chessman and Texano as the main event..

El Rayo, Vida de Lucha, the ‘reality’ show on Rayo de Plata promotions in San Luis Potosi is coming back for a second season. They list a premiere date of “first quarter 2015″, which probably means they’ve already started taping. Last season was 13 episodes, no mention of how many episodes this time. Apparently it did very well on video on demand.

Over on the UKFF forum, a thread about with one of the people who ran the Wrestling Channel mentions the process of getting CMLL onto the station: they started out talking to Paco Alonso, but were passed over to Sandra Granados (who remains the head of the press department) and was hard to reach. TWC offered $800 an episode, CMLL sent them a random bit of episodes, TWC attempted to pay CMLL via the bank details they sent, the bank said the details weren’t correct, TWC tried many times to get ahold of CMLL to get the correct info and CMLL never would respond. They say they tried their best to pay but never could, so they ended up with the CMLL episodes for free. (And then they canceled the show when no one was watching it.)

That is a perfect CMLL story. I wonder how many other times they’ve just failed to get money that was owed to them due to apathy. Also, why haven’t I tried to do for free lucha?

Silver King, who used to team with a Silver King Jr. and declared that he was his son, now says Silver King Jr. is a fraud. Someone didn’t get paid.

Speaking of relatives, the Pentagon Jr. bio on Lucha Underground acknowledged he’s Fenix’s brother and implies that’ll be brought up on TV, which would be the first time they’ve done that. Also, the Drago bio is years out of date unless the Bizarros are working some D-level AAA spots shows

Los Fulgors, Keira and the RCH promoter will appear on Tercara Caida today.

CMLL Informa will have Makota, Narumiya, Estrellita, Amapola and Diamante Azul as guests.

LuchaWorld has a review of the 10/11/14 CMLL Azteca and KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida reviews Atlantis, Máximo, Rush vs Felino, Negro Casas, Rey Escorpión from 06/08/2014 CMLL.

Volador Jr. is a new father.

 

Texano says Alberto will be a disappointed loser, just like Blue Demon and Mesias.

AAA writes about Alberto’s upcoming schedule: to the UK this weekend and to Japan at the end of the month.

Cavernario promo for his match with Extreme Tiger.

Arena Coliseo Monterrey is teasing an all legends show for 11/30.

There will be a wrestling art show and panel discussions at a expo in Tijuana.

Lucha Libre in Japan

Fuego and Mascara Dorada are headed back to NJPW for their Best of Super Juniors tag team tournament. They’ve surprisingly been set on different teams. Mascara Dorada teams with BUSHI versus ROH’s ReDragon team (who seem like they have a good shot to win the entire tournament, so Dorada’s odds aren’t great.) Fuego teams with Ryusuke Taguchi – Taguchi’s old partner moved to Florida to learn how to drive or something, so they brought in someone who can dance with him. They face Taichi and Desperado in the first round, though Taguchi was hurt on the last NJPW show and seems to be a question mark here. The first round match ups are on 10/25, the semifinals are on 11/01 and 11/02, and the final is on 11/03. The entire tour goes to the 8th, so Fuego and Dorada are probably out of CMLL after next Tuesday’s show until the Puebla show on 11/10 or the Tuesday shows on the 11th.

Lineups

CMLL (TUE) 10/21/2014 Arena México
1) Leono & Robin vs Akuma & Inquisidor
2) Aéreo, Angelito, Astral vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico
3) Black Panther, Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Skándalo
4) Cachorro vs Virus [lightning]
5) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
6) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Marco Corleone vs Rey Escorpión, Shocker, Thunder

Another really good looking Virus lightning match on Tuesday.  Some of the undercard looks promising.

CMLL (TUE) 10/21/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Metatrón vs Jocker & Thunder Boy
2) Magnus, Starman, Stigma vs Demonio Maya, Demonio Rojo, Satara
3) Dark Angel, Goya Kong, La Vaquerita vs Amapola, Makoto, Narumiya
4) Dragon Lee, Máscara Dorada, Valiente vs Boby Zavala, Maléfico, Pólvora
5) Diamante Azul, La Máscara, Rush vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Terrible, Vangellys

Semimain has a chance to be a fun match.

Guerra de Titanes on 12/07, Atlantis vs Guerrero in Puebla, CMLL Tuesday

CMLL (MON) 10/13/2014 Arena Puebla [Periodico Enfoque, Periodico Enfoque (fotos)]
1) Centauro de Fuego & Rey Apocalipsis b Arkalis & Rey Samuray
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Fuerza Chicana, Nitro b Black Tiger, Milenium, Robin
3) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Tigre Rojo Jr. DQ Olímpico, Puma, Tiger
Tecnicos took 1/3. Olimpico fouled Rey Cometa.
4) Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible b Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Super Porky
Shocker and Azul are feuding here too.
5) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero b Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente
UG pulled Atlanti’s mask and rolled him up for the win.

TV is more than month behind reality, but it was interesting to see a low turnout here on the TV taped right before the Anniversary show. There wasn’t much more interest in the general product before the mask match (maybe less) and it doesn’t seem that much different last night. The hard camera position doesn’t help – it seems like most people here are seated to the camera left and the camera right (and the Porras are in the balconies in that position – so it’s probably never quite as empty as it looks on the static shot. Still, all evidence points towards the stipulation itself being more over than the Ultimo Guerrero/Atlantis feud. We’ll probably get more evidence in a couple weeks.

CMLL hypes tonight’s Arena Mexico around Hechicero’s new mask. It’s a nice new mask. Probably need more than that. Main event is Peste Negra (Felino, Casas, Cavernario) vs Atlantis, Valiente, and Stuka. They might be setting up a Atlantis match here too, as much as they’re setting up anything. Hechicero teams with Rey Escorpion and Bobby Zavala versus Angel de Oro, Delta and Guerrero Maya in the best chance for a good trios match. Niebla Roja and Rey Cometa meet in the lightning match, and it’s worth checking out CMLL’s YouTube channel around 9pm CT tonight to see if they’ve posted that match. Japanese visitors Makoto & Narumiya debut in the tercera. They made it to Arena Mexico in time for a tiring training session yesterday. Guadalajara has Guerreros vs Titan, Marco, and Azul and a Bucanero/Maximo singles match. Will Maximo lose immediately after winning a tournament? (Possibly.)

Dorian Roldan announced Guerra de Titanes would take place on Sunday December 7th in Zapopan, Jalisco. AAA has run many big shows at the Auditorio Benito Juárez just outside of Guadalajara, most recently Guerra de Titanes 2012 (Chessman beating Vampiro in a six way cage match via fire extinguisher.) Texano Jr. won the Mega championship on that show, and his defense against Alberto el Patron is the first official match for this year’s show.

AAA TV this week announced a 11/17 taping for Leon (and got rid of the one I mentioned previously), which should take them thru the November 29th TV show if they continue taping two weeks of TV at every event. That means there’s probably one more taping in late November prior to Guerra de Titanes and about 4 weeks of TV to set up any other matches. Guerra de Titanes looks to air on TV 12/20 and 12/27, though AAA intends to air it live on iPPV as well.

AAA’s traditional year end taping is usually in Chilpancingo, Guerrero and AAA’s announced a show for Chilpancingo on 12/20, but it’s not listed as a TV taping. It looks like a TV taping level card but they wouldn’t announce a taping lineup this far out.

There’s a handheld video of Alberto & Mesias vs Texano & Perro up on YouTube.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and KrisZ’s news update.

DoradaFan has highlgihts of 07/22/2014 CMLL

This week’s Lucha 2000 and Box Y Lucha both have Maximo, Cuchillo and Antonio Pena on the cover.

Segunda Caida has a review of 08/09/14 CMLL.

Maximo is #1 on the CMLL top 10. Kamataichi is 10, because the arrival of the Japanese luchadoras will give him encouragement to rise to the top.

DJ Spectro has a short bio of Gran Davis.

Fulgor I is interviewed about the upcoming ChilangaMask show in Coacalco. Uno says he’s more adventurous in thinking up moves; Dos is definitely the calmer one of the two.

Diagonal has an interview Okumura and Kamaitachi on a recent trip to Cancun. Okumura says he was good youth baseball pitcher before suffering an arm injury, planned to come to Mexico for only a year, and was going to return to Japan when he broke clavicle but Negro Casas took care of him and convinced him to stay. Kamaitachi claims the first time he ate tacos, he ate 30 of them.

Cavenario says he’s not an overnight success, is looking forward to going to FantasticMania. We’re probably about a month away from hearing more about that show.

Thunder says the real him is a rudo so he’s glad he’s on that side and he knows he needs to improve his Spanish if he’s going to stay in Mexico.

The next AAA show in San Luis Potosi has Sin Cara, Mesias and Elegido vs the Hell Brothers (and no Texano or Alberto.)

CMLL’s highlights of the week.

Lucha Libre in Japan

Alberto will face Masakatsu Funaki on the 11/01 Wrestle-1 card. For what it’s worth, they’re not bringing up AAA here – this is Alberto coming in as a freelancer. The match should air in Japan on 11/30.

Lineup

CMLL (MON) 10/20/2014 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & Milenium vs Blue Center & Guerrero Espacial
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Akrón, King Jaguar, Siki Ozama Jr.
3) Blue Panther, Fuego, Tritón vs Kamaitachi, Okumura, Olímpico
4) Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Hombre sin Nombre, Kráneo, Morphosis
5) Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

More Atlantis/Guerrero.

Like Olimpico, Morphisis hasn’t been to Arena Mexico since June. Unlike Olimpico, Morphosis isn’t booked in Guadalajara. He’s getting about a booking per night (and working a lot of indy shows.) I don’t think the Invasors are going to win their war.

Cara Lucha (SAT) 10/18/2014 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) Magnifico I & Magnifico II vs Hombre Bala Jr. & Súper Halcón Jr. and Andy Boy & Danger and Oro Jr. & Star Jr. and Belial & Impulso and Kilvan & Yoruba and Fly Star & Toxin Boy andLátigo & Rayo Star [Copa Caralucha de Parejas]
8 team tournament
2) Súper Nova vs Trauma II
3) Aeroboy & Flamita vs Rey Cometa & Tritón
4) Extreme Tiger vs Cavernario

Full card for previously announced show. The main event was originally a trios but was split into a singles and a tag, both which could be found. The full list of participants in the tag team tournament are on the poster, though they’re still doing promos with each team: the modified Sky Stars (Latigo Stars?) are the seventh entrant, so we’re just short a promo from La Resistianca team of Yoruba & Kilvan. (Why do the indy teams have names but the CMLL teams do not? Get on it, Star & Oro.) There’s also a promo with Xtreme Tiger on his new singles match with Cavernario.

10/07-13 lucha videos

Issues: No new Monterrey still. Hopes crushed. We missed Aerostar/Fantasma, hopefully AAA will have it up in a day or two. LAS is now airing 1.5 IWRG shows a week, but the Ninja Turtles were in the 0.5 not aired. Terra is in Atla because the HD feed was buffering on me. Sound is messed up on the 52MX matches. They’re up on YouTube but not in the playlist. The show reruns on Wednesday and I’ll stick the good version in the playlist when I have them.

EDIT: New links added for 52MX, and WWC links are fixed as of 10/15

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYyNnOBGWP7TQihlG1zofPBPfTPUjw4Y0

10/08 CMLL Informa: http://ul.to/08hdpevs

10/11 WWC: http://ul.to/rf5qetfv
10/12 WWC: http://ul.to/ryfponkf

10/12 Sobre el Ring: http://ul.to/aow4fmmz
10/12 La Lucha se Hace: http://ul.to/aow4fmmz – the MexiCanal version of this show remains months behind; in real time, they’ve changed pretty everything but the name to a highlight/interview show that’s being posted on YouTube. They had AAA guests on last week before Heroes Inmortales.

IWRG Zona XXI: 2014-10-07
taped 2014-10-05 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Cien Caras Jr. & Demon Clown vs Hijo De Dos Caras & Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 in a relevos suicidas match
http://ul.to/0s53k5p0

2) Hijo De Dos Caras © vs Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 © for the IWRG Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship and for the IWRG Rey del Ring
http://ul.to/zhj7hvr1

3) Black Terry, Máscara Sagrada, Pantera vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr.
http://ul.to/rw8ux5k7

AAA on Televisa: 2014-10-11
taped 2014-09-26 @ Domo Deportivo Noe Hernandez, Zumpango, Estado de México
1) Aerostar vs Hijo del Fantasma © for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship
no link :(
2) Bengala, Blue Demon, Fénix vs Pentagón Jr., Steve Pain, Villano IV
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ioh3pb
3) Angélico & Jack Evans vs Averno & Chessman
https://www.sendspace.com/file/j9ind2
Ending
https://www.sendspace.com/file/qrvknt

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-10-11 
taped 2014-09-30 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Maléfico © vs Rey Cometa for the Occidente Light Heavyweight Championship
https://www.sendspace.com/file/n42r90
2) Black Panther, Cachorro, Máximo vs Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Olímpico
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ikbw9o
3) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
https://www.sendspace.com/file/u5y45k

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-10-11
taped 2014-10-07 @ Arena México
Inro
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ka9wsr
1) Fresbee & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Camorra
https://www.sendspace.com/file/9wdam3
2) Esfinge, Sensei, Starman vs Artillero, Canelo Casas, Súper Comando
https://www.sendspace.com/file/6lxs6x
Stellar Moments
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gtm6pt
3) Hombre Bala Jr., Stigma, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Kamaitachi, Metálico, Okumura
https://www.sendspace.com/file/v8ks4t
4) Blue Panther, Fuego, Super Porky vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Hombre sin Nombre, Pólvora
https://www.sendspace.com/file/a1ewgl
5) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Rey Escorpión
https://www.sendspace.com/file/g9v3br
Ending
https://www.sendspace.com/file/f3sxxa

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-10-11
taped 2014-10-03 @ Arena México
Intro
https://www.sendspace.com/file/8afdgc
1) Stuka Jr. vs Delta [Copa Jr. VIP eightfinal]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xrp9dr
2) Máximo vs Puma  [Copa Jr. VIP eightfinal]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/kaw46y
3) La Sombra vs Ángel de Oro [Copa Jr. VIP eightfinal]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/a7hgfr
4) Rush vs Euforia [Copa Jr. VIP eightfinal]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dyh3se
5) Máximo vs Stuka Jr. [Copa Jr. VIP quarterfinal]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/rt5mki
6) La Sombra vs Rush [Copa Jr. VIP quarterfinal]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/r1h400
7) La Sombra vs Máximo [Copa Jr. VIP semifinal]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ct6n56
8) Mephisto, Thunder, Último Guerrero vs Diamante Azul, La Máscara, Volador Jr.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/nubagd
Ending
https://www.sendspace.com/file/g7lotn

Lucha Azteca (CMLL): 2014-10-11
taped 2014-09-26 @ Arena México
http://ul.to/s5xa4u7q
Copa Junior Block A
8) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Valiente vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

CMLL on Terra: 2014-10-12
taped 2014-10-12 @ Arena México
1) Bengala & Star Jr. vs Cholo & Inquisidor
https://www.sendspace.com/file/0wx072
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi vs Amapola, La Seductora, Zeuxis
https://www.sendspace.com/file/a4weob
3) Cachorro, Pegasso, Tritón vs Boby Zavala, Puma, Tiger
https://www.sendspace.com/file/j7m2rj
4) Astral © vs Eléctrico for the CMLL World Pequeño Estrellas Championship
http://ul.to/05h3fi9x
5) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
https://www.sendspace.com/file/y5dk6a
6) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada vs Felino, Negro Casas, Shocker
https://www.sendspace.com/file/fl4tp5

IWRG Zona XXI: 2014-10-12
taped 2014-10-08 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Galaxy & Sky Ángel vs Araña de Plata & Atomic Star
http://ul.to/s2bkvf73
2) Dragón Celestial & Imposible vs Anubis Black & Hip Hop Man
http://ul.to/yxmqcbxv
3) Dr. Cerebro, Metaleon, Veneno vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo
http://ul.to/zhj7hvr1
4) Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Kenshi Kabuki vs Danny Casas, Eterno, Oficial 911 in a super libre match
http://ul.to/5klhe44j

CMLL Puebla: 2014-10-13
taped 2014-09-16 @ Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis, Meyer, Paris vs Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/g3kjv3
2) Dark Angel & Estrellita vs Amapola & Zeuxis
https://www.sendspace.com/file/9cifee
3) Black Panther, Blue Panther, Cachorro vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gbgqnu
4) La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Shocker, Vangellys
https://www.sendspace.com/file/hroxn9
5) Marco Corleone & Rush vs Rey Escorpión & Terrible [Copa 81 Anniversario]
https://www.sendspace.com/file/fzr5hv

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Piratas get one over on Hijo de Dos, CMLL English language announcer passes away

IWRG (SUN) 10/12/2014 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Septimo Dragon & Sky Ángel b Cirujano Jr. & Hip Hop Man
Guanajuato’s Septimo Dragon and Estado de Mexico made their debut.
2) Diva Salvaje, Estrella Divina, Miss Gaviota b Rayan, Spartan, Violencia Jr.
Estrella’s debut and Violencia’s first match here since March 2013.
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo DQ Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Oficial 911, Oficial AK47
911 faked a foul to get the second, so Rafy did the same in the third.
4) Canis Lupus, Demon Clown, X-Fly b Dr. Cerebro, Pantera, Veneno
straight falls. Last fall saw Pantera & Cerbero have Lupus & X-Fly in submissions, but the referee rule that capitan Veneno gave up to Demon Clown first.
5) Hijo De Dos Caras, Negro Navarro, Toscano b Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr.
Negro’s first match here this year. Piratas took 1/3, when Hijo threw a beer in Dos’s face to set up Pirata Sr.’s win.

With Pirata Morgan Jr. involved, IWRG continues to increase the number of (kind of pointless) masks which could fall at Castle of Terror. I could see them stretching out the Demon Clown match until December. Ninja Turtles are here a couple weeks and they’re already doing screwy wins. Just winning is not creative enough.

Stewart Allen, who did English language announcing for CMLL, has passed away. The story goes CMLL sold a run of tapes to a company in France and Stewart and another announcer was brought in to do a new commentary track so it could be sold again elsewhere. (Stewart’s started with as Dave Bradshaw as his partner, then it was changed to Matty Deller later on.) It being CMLL, these tapes were months old, without any context and sometimes vastly out of sequence, so we talked a couples times as Stewart tried to track down airing dates and understand what was happening. He enjoyed calling CMLL and would’ve loved the chance to do it at a bigger level if CMLL had the forethought to run their own current English language broadcast. (He would’ve been great for TripleMania too.) Instead, the tapes eventually changed to an all Minis show, then dried up entirely. The shows still air on the Fight Network in Canada under the Fighting Spirit name (including tonight), but they haven’t had new material in many years. I’d still hear from him when his women’s wrestling podcast had a lucha libre related guest was on, and he did plenty of other types of wrestling. Stewart always struck me as a guy who loved wrestling and was happy to be part of it. He’d be in my neck of the globe when Shimmer would run shows, and I always thought about how I should go over there just to say hi and thanks. I regret that I never did. Stewart will be missed.

Willie Mack was released from NXT. He had just started with NXT. I have no idea how that works that quick, but Mack was a guy AAA and Lucha Underground were clearly interested in prior to him signing with NXT. It seems like 50/50 odds he’ll be picked up by the next batch of Lucha Underground tapings in January, especially if he’s headed back to Los Angeles anyway.

The picture of Mr. Niebla and Rush here is pretty good.

Segunda Caida reviews the first Blue Panther vs El Hijo del Santo from the UK.

Lucha Libre in Japan

10/12 Stardom: Star Fire & Mystique b Miho Wakizawa & Koguma [Goddesses of Stardom] – this is a league tournament, with two blocks of four teams (so three matches each and a final.) Star Fire & Mystique start off 1-0.

10/12 AAA TV Results (San Luis Potosi) – Heroes Inmortales

AAA TV (SUN) 10/12/2014 Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosi, San Luis Potosí
1) Dinastía, Faby Apache, Niño Hamburguesa, Pimpinela Escarlatab Eterno, Mamba, Mini Abismo Negro, Taya Valkyrie
Hamburger splash on Abismo.
2) Hijo del Fantasma © b Angélico, Jack Evans, Joe Lider,Bengala, Aerostar, Súper Fly, Steve Pain [AAA CRUISER]
Aerostar was hurt taking bad fall in the match. Hijo del Fantasma’s second defense
3) Averno, Chessman, Cibernético b Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown [street fight]
4) Myzteziz b La Parka, Blue Demon Jr., Australian Suicide, Zorro,Pentagón Jr., Fénix, Villano IV [Copa Antonio Pena,lumberjack]
worked as a royal rumble match, with Pentagon and Suicide starting, followed by Fenix, Zorro, Villano IV (replacing Daga), Myzteziz, La Parka, and Demon last. No one went out until every went in. Suicide, Fenix, Parka, Zorro (Parka costing him the match), Villano & Demon draw, and Pentagon fell to a La Mistica.
5) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo & Texano Jr. b El Mesías & El Patrón Alberto
Mesias got Texano in an armbar, Tirantes broke it up, then Tirantes turned the other way as Texano fouled Alberto and beat him in his home town. Albert challenged for a title shot anyway and Texano accepted for Guerra de Titanes.

Air Date: 11/08 and 11/15 (probably a two weeks taping even though only five matches.)

Looked to be a sell out and loud. They gave out Thunderstix to the crowd, and it seems like the crowd might have actually used them. There’s a clip of the crowd chanting for Alberto from early in the main event.

Everything went to form until that main event, where it sure looks like Alberto lost just to surprise people. Even with tonight’s outcome, no one believes Texano is going to (or should) win when he faces Alberto for the title. The way Texano’s been booked for the last 12 months isn’t going to be fixed by one more screwy win. It’s way too late for him and a bucket full of El Hijo del Santo matches prove Mexican fans will pay for obvious outcomes if they care about the protagonist. You just got to keep the protagonist special. Giving Alberto a win in front of a full crowd there to see him in front of a crowd going nuts for him would sure make him look special and footage you could use for every Alberto video package from now until the end of time. Instead, a loss that’ll mean nothing in three months.

Alberto is getting the same shot he would’ve gotten if he had won, so why not just have him win? Or, if you had to have Texano get a win, Mesias is right there. There were alternate options which don’t take the shine off your new top star.

This isn’t going to kill Alberto by any means. It may hurt him only a tiny bit. But why hurt him at all?

The good thing is they did make the Guerra de Titanes main event because look at those airs dates, it’s going to be about Guerra de Titanes time by the time this show airs. They’ve got five weeks of TV in the can, which feels crazy.

Aerostar got back on Twitter after the match and said he was okay. It seemed like they were setting up a Super Fly/Aerostar challenge there, which may have not happened because of the fall (or maybe Super Fly caused the fall.)

Next taping is 11/07 in Tampico. They may just have one more taping after that before Guerra de Titanes.

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