CMLL sets up Volador/Cavernario (Mexico) & Dragon Lee/UG (GDL) for next Tuesday, Cain/AAA

Adios Ticos

CMLL (TUE) 09/10/2019 Arena México [CMLL, Lucha CentralThe Gladiatores]
1) Pequeño Nitro & Pierrothito b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Disturbio, Espíritu Negro, Nitro b Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Pegasso, Star Jr., Stigma b Ares (Costa Rica), Escualo (Costa Rica), Kaiser (Costa Rica) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
Rey Cometa won in 8:13.
5) Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys b Flyer, Kráneo, Stuka Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
6) Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla DQ Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cavernario faked a foul from Volador, setting up a singles match.

Rey Cometa talks about ending Polvora’s “win streak” and Barbaro Cavernario & Volador Jr. set up next week’s match. Sounded like a regular Tuesday show.

CMLL (TUE) 09/10/2019 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Mágico, Metatrón, Rielero b Exterminador, Maléfico, Ráfaga
tecnicos took 1/3?. Exterminador’s first match here since May.
2) El Coyote, Hijo del Signo, Sádico b Arkalis, Joker, Retro
rudos took 1/3
3) La Jarochita, La Maligna, Sonya b Amapola, La Metálica, Reyna Isis
tecnicas took 2/3, setting up a Jarochita/Metalica title match
4) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Diamante Azul, Dulce Gardenia, Soberano Jr.
rudos took 1/3.
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja
rudos took 1/3, UG stealing Dragon Lee’s mask to pin him. That set up a UG/Lee match.

Ultimo Guerrero and Dragon Lee would be a first time ever match. Dragon Lee has talked about wanting to face different people and it does seem like there’s a CMLL effort to accommodate that wish. Not sure if they have enough different people for it to last though.

Killer Kross talked to Sporting News about his current issue with Impact. He confirms he was booked on the New York show and then was unbooked once Impact came aboard. Kross says he’s spoken with everyone in AAA and he remains on good terms with them.

(Impact coming aboard the AAA NY show late is still confusing. Did AAA not know they needed a New York wrestling license until late? Did something else fall thru?)

Yesterday, Cain Velasquez was on ESPN’s Ariel Helwani’s MMA show. A lot of the lucha libre stuff had been talked about in previous appearances, though Velasquez gives credit to Psycho Clown for helping him learn the headscissors spots he did at TripleMania. He learned them the night before. Velasquez seemed to say his deal with AAA includes the provision that he can’t wrestle (or fight) anywhere else until after the LA show. That’s a pretty sweet deal for AAA.

At the end of the interview, Ariel asked him where he could watch the AAA in NY show. Cain Velasquez explained it would air on Twitch and free in Latin America. That’s how TripleMania aired and how most AAA shows are airing, but the AAA in NY (and LA) shows are airing on FITE TV for $30. Some goofball on Twitter last night pointed out AAA’s done a typically poor job of advertising this fact. In a remarkable coincidence, AAA started mentioning the PPV and RT-ing Fite’s mentions of the show today. There’s still not a lot of awareness about that showing being a PPV and not being on Twitch; maybe AAA ought to do some programming on Twitch Sunday to let people in the US know they need to buy it and to let the Mexican fans to know it won’t be airing until next week), if that’s allowable under their deal with Twitch.

The plan with this AAA show in NY was all along to get a strong walk-up. That needs some word of mouth in the area. Cain doing interviews this week is part of that plan. It’s a good start. Hopefully there are a lot more interviews this week if AAA is trying to attract a big crowd; Demon or Wagner or Taya should be in New York all weekend. From the outside, the AAA NY show instead feels like something AAA was very interested in first and now is doing just to count it among the accomplishments they’ve done, not because they’re particularly invested in making it a success. That’s probably not the case on the inside, there’s likely a cavalcade of people working hard so the AAA show comes together, but there are pieces missing on the promotional side. Today is Wednesday, nearly half the matches for Sunday are still not announced. There is apparently a card – Adrian Mendoza mentioned it looked good, Dave the Clown says he’s on the show, I guess both of those statements could be true – but it’s still not announced nearly 24 hours after that tweet saying it existed.

The producers of the upcoming documentary about Perro Aguayo mention they never got to talk to Perro Aguayo himself, despite working with the family on the film.

EMW as advertising Tiago on their 09/27 show representing AAA. The former Mini Charly Manson was with the Crash as recently as their July show.

Dark Scoria has opened a wrestling school in Durango. The cost is 50 pesos a week or 200 per month.

Hidalgo’s Jaguar Azteca has opened a burger restaurant.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and this week’s Lucha Report.


IWRG (SUN) 09/22/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Chicanito vs Avisman
2) Puma de Oro & Shadow Boy vs Death Metal & Neza Kid
3) Atomic Star, Auzter, Mexica vs Ra-Zhata, Shil-Kha, Toshiharu
4) Dinamic Black, Freelance, Halcón Negro Jr. vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro
5) Capo del Norte & Capo del Sur vs Herodes Jr. & Hijo de Pirata Morgan and Black Warrior Jr. & El Hijo del Medico Asesino and Demonio Infernal & Eterno
6) Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible, Relámpago, Séptimo Dragón, Súpernova, The Tiger vs Ave Rex, Heddi Karaoui, Hip Hop Man, La Mosca, OT Fernandez, Zumbi

Hip Hop Man posted this one a bit early because it’s Hip Hop Man’s return from injury. (Unless he’s the mystery guy on the Argentina team this Monday.) The new evil ninja turtle will make a second appearance. If I know IWRG undercard gimmicks, there’s no telling if he’ll make a third.

CMLL Puebla: 2019-08-19

everyone slide kick

Recapped: 2019-08-27


Centella Roja, Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis beat Asturiano, King Jaguar, Meyer
(13:36 [5:39, 3:24, 4:33], 1/3, n/r,

El Malayo, Hijo del Signo, Toro Bill Jr. beat Arkalis, Meyer, Tigre Rojo Jr.
(12:41 [6:42, 2:57, 3:02], 1/3, n/r,

Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Tiger beat Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stigma
(17:05 [6:18, 3:38, 7:09], 1/3, ok,

Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente beat Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
(10:11 [4:02, 2:17, 3:52], 2/3, ok,

Cuatrero, Forastero, Místico, Sansón beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match
(8:10 [4:07, 4:03], 1/2 DQ, ok,

What happened:

Mistico tossed his mask to Soberano Jr. when Los Guerreros had the second fall won. Edgar called the DQ. Soberano & Mistico continued to fight post matches, setting up a singles match


Asturiano armdrag

The main event was the most exciting match on the show, with Soberano & Mistico clearly enjoying the chance to go at each other and Mistico getting to play rudo. It just really wasn’t a long match and the two trios existed mostly to set up the match-turning points without getting to develop much on their own. There’s a really satisfying 18-minute match possible and they got 40% of it here.

The other third and fourth matches were fine and not memorable. Stuka is trying to bring his flipping neckbreaker back. It looks good, he should stick with it, and he seemed like the best guy in the semi-main. This Atlantis appearance featured him shuffling around a lot because that was earlier on him. He’s also using a simple takedown as a finish, seeming because it doesn’t require him putting any weight on his legs or jumping. It’s not great.

Hechicero & Panther Jr. went for dramatics on their chop fight. It was alright, like the rest. Hechicero is the best at getting good things out of Panther Jr. but that’s not a surprise. Mascara 2000 attempted to take a dragon screw leg whip from Black Panther and almost lost what is left of his knee.

Puebla, Tuesday preview, Big Daddy

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CMLL (MON) 09/09/2019 Arena Puebla [CMLL, Lucha Central]
1) Ares el Poblano, Black Tiger, Guerrero Espacial b Asturiano, Meyer, Millenium LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Ares (Costa Rica), Escualo (Costa Rica), Kaiser (Costa Rica) LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Hijo del Villano III, Perverso, Universo 2000 Jr. b Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Kráneo LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Perverso replaced Mascara Ano 2000. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Atlantis, Flyer, Titán b Hechicero, Templario, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. DQ Dragón Lee, Terrible, Valiente [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Terrible fouled Casas for the DQ.

The DQ came out of nowhere. No idea if it’s setting up that singles match. Dragon Lee/Volador probably couldn’t happen due to other bookings they have on Monday. Casas & Terrible don’t have Monday bookings yet I’ve got yet.

Arena Mexico tonight has Peste Negra versus Caristico, Valiente, and Volador. Last week’s show ended with Cavernario fouling Volador, which seemed like something just to build-up up the cage match announcement for the following day. It’s also possible CMLL just runs Cavernario/Volador randomly on Tuesday because it’s CMLL. Flyer, Kraneo, and Stuka Jr. face Hechicero, Vangellys and Rey Bucanero in the semi-main. Polvora has yet another lightning match, this time against Rey Cometa. The Costa Rica trio finish up their short stint with Pegasso, Star Jr. and Stigma today. The opening matches again include a minis match to open a show. It’ll stream at 7:30 pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Guadalajara has the Guerreros versus Angel de Oro, Dragon Lee, and Niebla Roja. They teased Ultimo Guerrero versus Dragon Lee there last week. A bigger than usual show next Tuesday as a delayed holiday celebration would make sense for both arenas. There’s been no announcement to that extent yet.

CMLL quietly removed Big Daddy from Friday night’s main event. Sanson will replace him. He’s only wrestled in AAA as part of the Gran Prix ciberneticos and last Friday’s semi-main. He may have as few three Arena Mexico matches in CMLL before main eventing Aniversario. It doesn’t appear to be injury because he’s appearing twice in Texas this upcoming Saturday. We just saw with MechaWolf that CMLL will find a spot for any foreigners who are in, so Big Daddy appearing on nothing but a Friday show suggests he’s just not around now. There’s no sign of any falling out between CMLL & Big Daddy, so I’m not sure this means much.

I don’t think current CMLL is capable of making someone a big star in two weeks and I don’t think he’ll be able to do it on his own in matches. Maybe it’s fine in the way that this already not great. Big Daddy remaining a mystery man will inflate the perception among fans that CMLL put him in the match so they can have a nobody lose, but that was already there and I’m not sure if it’ll affect ticket sales. It would help if they got him over as a threat but I don’t think CMLL is interested in doing that either.

Hijo de Mano Negra says he’s debuting in Arena Mexico soon.

Daga confirmed he’s signed with Impact, though that’s only for the US and he’s still with AAA in Mexico.


AAA posted a promo with Octagon Jr. introducing himself. He says he’ll be on the Morelia show and Heroes Inmortales. There’s a mystery tecnico teaming with Pimpinela and Faby Apache, so that’s probably it for Morelia. No mention of New York.

+LuchaTV has their newest podcast. They talk about the music replacements on Sunday’s AAA show around 1h25m, not really happy about the changes.


CMLL (SAT) 09/14/2019 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Sonic vs Cholo & Yago
2) La Guerrera, La Vaquerita, Sanely vs La Infernal, La Seductora, Tiffany
3) Átomo, Gallito, Microman vs Chamuel, Guapito, Perico Zakarías
4) Audaz, Guerrero Maya Jr., Volcano vs Cancerbero, Dark Magic, Raziel
5) Carístico, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
6) Diamante Azul vs Negro Casas

This turned into Diamante Azul singles match weekend. I don’t think even Diamante Azul wants that.

CMLL (SUN) 09/15/2019 Arena México
1) Leono & Sangre Imperial vs Apocalipsis & Príncipe Odín Jr.
2) Angelito, Kaligua, Shockercito vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia
3) Blue Panther Jr., Dulce Gardenia, Rey Cometa vs Okumura, Sagrado, Virus
4) Stuka Jr., Titán, Valiente vs Ephesto, Felino, Hechicero
5) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Volador Jr. vs Mephisto, Mr. Niebla, Terrible
6) Diamante Azul vs Último Guerrero

There are not many options for lucha libre on 09/15 but maybe a museum would be better than another Diamante Azul main event.

IWRG (MON) 09/16/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Acero II & Águila Oriental vs Biosfera & Príncipe Jr.
2) Ángel Dorado I, Galactus, Spider Fly vs Especie Maligna, Voltar, Voltex
3) Ángel Estrella Jr., Dinámico, Noise Boy vs Canival, Carnicero, Güero Palma
4) Atomic Star, Auzter, Cheff Benito, Chicanito, Death Metal, Mexica, Puma de Oro, Rey Halcón vs ?, Adrenalina, Canibal Jr., Dragón Fly, Guerrero Olímpico, Historico, Marado, Voraz [Torneo FILL 85]
IWRG (Black Terry) vs Argentino (La Mosca)
5) Demonio Infernal & Eterno vs Fresero Jr. & Mr. Iguana
6) Aramis, Imposible, Relámpago vs Cerebro Negro, Fly Warrior, Hijo de Canis Lupus
7) Dragón Bane © vs Toxin [IWRG REY DEL AIRE]
6th defense

Top few matches should look good and you have a usually interesting Copa Higher Power.

TAO (TUE) 10/01/2019 Arena Querétaro
1) Traidor & Zarpa De Tigre vs Ángel Rebelde & Lobo Lafayette and Bon Dracker & Hijo del Mosco X-Fly and Galáctico Dragón & Natague [? TAG]
2) Drabek I, Drabek II, Ursus vs Rey Toro I, Rey Toro II, Rey Toro III
3) Dulce Gardenia, Goya Kong, Halcón Negro Jr., Máscarita Sagrada vs Coquito Amarillo, Hijo Del Picudo, Tifany, Yuriko
4) Lizmark Jr., Mr. Águila, X-Fly vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Ozz, Dark Scoria
5) El Hijo Del Santo & Laredo Kid vs Black Taurus (Indie) & El Hijo del Solitario

Still intrigued by Santo’s bigger schedule. I do wonder if there’s a choice not to wrestle in Mexico City because there are enough goofy promotions that one would pay him to do it if the price has suddenly come down. Independent Goya Kong can work against Tiffany where AAA’s Goya Kong could not.

Lucha Libre Vanguardia (THU) 10/03/2019 Autolavado VM, Tulancingo, Hidalgo
1) Caballero Atena & Dayami vs Guerrero Sagrado Jr. & Zuzu Divine
2) Falcón Fire, Gasparin, Lobo Blanco, Rey Dragón, Símbolo Azteca vs Dragón Boy, Freyzer, Jeff Killer, Josh Snipper, Mr. Chivo
3) Colmillo Blanco, Dragón Latino, Tarasco vs Amo de la Noche, Bobby Cruz, Némesis
4) Calibus vs Aramis vs Draztick Boy vs Juventud Aerea [AEREO NACIONAL]
5) Aero Boy & Violento Jack vs Cíclope & Miedo Extremo and Crazy King & Lunatik Fly

Violento Jack returns to Mexico for one night only to team with Aero Boy again. These Vanguardia shows are interesting but we’ve only gotten to see brief clips of the last two shows on +LuchaTV, including a Virus singles match.

AAA in Puebla results, new Octagon/Abismo/Bengala, MDA

probably not Triton

AAA TV (SUN) 09/08/2019 Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla [AAA, Lucha Central, thecubsfan]
1) Chik Tormenta, Low Rider, Toxin b Aramis, Draztick Boy, La Parkita  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
10:00. Toxin replaced Latigo (China). Tormenta beat Parkita with a powerbomb.
2) Bengala, Dinastía, Eclipse b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
9:43. The newest version of Begnala was the surprise wrestler. Mocha Cota frog splashes Eclipse.
3) Big Mami, Lady Shani, Octagon Jr. b Abismo Negro Jr., La Hiedra, Villano III Jr.  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
13:13. Debuts of Abismo Negro Jr. and the third Octagon Jr., with Octagon beating Abismo.
4) Ortiz (LAX) & Santana (LAX) b Laredo Kid & Myzteziz Jr. and Arez & Daga  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
11:00. Myzteziz Jr. replaced Hijo del Vikingo (still in cast). Earlier, Vikingo appeared to express his disappointment about being unable to wrestle in front of his hometown fans. Averno confronted him to reissue his trios title challenge then attacked Vikingo. Myzteziz & Parka made the save, only for Argenis to attack them with a chair and unmask Myzteziz. Argenis declared only his family has the rights to that mask. Argenis attacked Myzteziz again after this match, giving him a martinete.
5) Averno, Chessman, Texano Jr. b Aerostar, Murder Clown, Niño Hamburguesa  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
15:21. Texano pinned Murder Clown after a mask pull and a distracted by La Hiedra
6) Drago, Psycho Clown, Taya b Ayako Hamada, Blue Demon Jr., Rey Escorpión  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
16:41. Psycho Clown pinned Rey Escorpion with a torito after Dr. Wagner Jr. attacked Blue Demon, hitting him in the hand with a hammer.

It was a generally good show. The undercard was easily watchable, the main event wasn’t strong but Wagner did hammer a man’s hand. There was nothing must watch on it and it wasn’t the most crucial show. The OGTs are maybe getting a trios title shot, but that was set up already. Argenis may be feuding with Myzteziz but I don’t believe in Argenis feuds until they actually exist. LAX winning is sort of a build to the tag title match next but it wasn’t really treated that way on screen.

As would be expected, most of the talk about the show was about the “new” characters. The identities weren’t hard to figure out, and the reaction wasn’t much of a surprise. AAA sees these as roles people play, roles that they own and have invested in and want to stay an active part of their world. Calling Abismo Negro “Jr.” is the acknowledgment that it’s a new character, but this is part of the deal with AAA. If the promotion goes on long enough, there will one day be a Drago Jr., or a Lady Shani Jr., or even a Psycho Clown Jr.

Of course it’s not just AAA who does it. It’s the rejection of Mistico (II) as a character that makes wonder if it’s ever going to be a successful idea in today’s environment. AAA did pull off this replacement idea with La Parka Jr. and their success with that choice can be held up as proof it’ll work for others. It does seem more like one exception in a world of forgettable retreads and where hardcore fans are more knowledgeable and more willing to reject replacements, as they have with Mistico. La Parka has worked but it’s on example against a lot more AAA characters who were never as successful as those people who they replaced (like the second Psicosis) or had runs that have been completely forgotten (Ludxor & Venum).

Pentagon Jr. may be another exception of a AAA putting someone in an old gimmick and it very much working out on him. It’s arguable though; not much of what he became had to do with the Pentagon character, except for the martial arts aspect playing into his perfect personality vignette on Lucha Underground. Penta did end up an international star at the end, and that’s why those people who’ve taken on the new characters are making the same decision. I have no idea if was stated or just implied, but Octagon Jr.’s post-match interview about this being the moment to become an international star hints at the bargain made. Taking on the Octagon Jr. gimmick, given the history of that character specifically, is a big load. It’s one a Mexican wrestler might taken on if they were promised a bigger focus in AAA and the same chances to go internationally as Penta & Fenix got.

People are angry about Octagon Jr. coming back but at least they have a strong feeling about it. Bringing back the Bengala gimmick seems a particularly odd pick. Abismo Negro was a big star in AAA, Octagon was a big star and that seems wrapped up in a legal fight. Bengala, with both Ricky Marvin and Super Nova, topped out in the midcard. Though Bengala Nova hasn’t been on Twitch since January, it still feels like the gimmick needed to sit on a closet for a lot longer, because it’ll pigeonhole the new guy in the same spot.

Abismo Negro Jr. attempting to disguise his voice for his interview was fun. A daughter of Abismo Negro wrote on Facebook to make it clear Abismo Negro Jr. isn’t a family member. She isn’t happy about it though she doesn’t believe there’s anything they can do about it. She also says Abismo Negro designed the outfit. AAA’s side has always been that they came up with it.

I have no idea where these changes leave the trios titles. Octagon Jr. did not have a trios title last night, while Golden Magic definitely did in his Impact appearance taped a couple of weeks ago. It is strange Golden Magic was added to the Jinetes del Aire if he wasn’t going to be Golden Magic much longer, and that points to how quickly this was all probably decided. (In other words, AAA probably hadn’t figured out how they were handling the trios titles either last night, even as they were setting up a title match for them.)

The other big change from last night’s show was the music. Entrance music was changed for Psycho Clown, Drago, Los Mercenarios, Laredo Kid. Others, like Blue Demon & Dr. Wagner Jr., did not have their music changed. Widespread music change usually means some big scale music rights issues. AAA has always used real songs, which would not fly in the US but hasn’t seemed to be much of an issue for CMLL or AAA in Mexico. AAA was aware it was a problem outside of Mexico, replacing all music with a generic song on their YouTube channel for the last couple of years. It may have been a situation AAA was going to have to deal with on the US shows, but there wasn’t any urgency to make a change in Puebla. A lot of the new music was personalized, not the generic music they’ve been using on YouTube. That leaves open the possibility this was AAA deciding they wanted to own their own music, just like they owned the gimmick, rather than something forced on it. It’s a hard adjustment in many cases.

A photographer for Milenio was attacked by guards outside the Puebla show. It seems like they prevented him from getting into the building, he recorded it on his camera, and then they attacked him when he refused to delete it. I’d assume the guards work for the venue and not AAA, but it’s still something that gets connected back to AAA.

AAA announced Kenny Omega’s challenge against Fenix for the AAA Mega Championship would take place on 11/17 in Orizaba at Heroes Inmortales. A Daga/Drago match was also mentioned by the announcers though I’m not sure if that was definite.

The New York show was lightly promoted as well, with no real big push for it on Spanish commentary (but it sounded like there was more in English.) La Parka’s column, which seems partly fictional, has him writing it while waiting for his US visa. Cain Velasquez is going on an MMA show of note to promote the show. He seems like the only person who’s been out to promote the show so far.

It seemed odd that Super Fly, who is from Puebla, was left off this show. It turns out he’s in Colombia doing press for the AAA tour.

There are advertisements out for an AAA TV taping on 11/17 in Ciudad Juarez, which matches a date mentioned previously by +LuchaTV. The remaining unconfirmed tapings are 11/09 in Torreon, 11/30 in Veracruz and 12/14 in Ciudad Madero.

An AAA show in Tuxlta Guiterrez, Chiapas on Saturday drew 2,200, which looked to be a sell out.

Items besides AAA

MDA (SUN) 09/08/2019 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV]
1) Chef Benito & Chicanito b Mexica & Neza Kid and Celestial Boy & Shadow Boy and Shalom & Spider Fly [Copa MDA] Cheff Benito-Chicanito vs Neza Kid-Mexica vs Celestial Boy-Shadow Boy vs Shalom-Spider Fly (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
2) Fly Warrior, Iron Kid, Puma de Oro b Alas de Oro, Alas De Plata, Tromba Alas de Oro, Alas de Plata y Tromba vs Fly Warrior, Puma de Oro e Irón Kid con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
3) Astral b Freelance Astral vs Freelance mano a mano en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
4) Imposible & Sádico b El Divo & Hijo de Canis Lupus Imposible y el Hijo de Canis Lupus vs el Divo y Sádico en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
teams switched around
5) Aeroboy b Dragón Bane Aeroboy vs Dragón Bane mano a mano en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
Jack Evans was briefly listed in this match. Argenis ended up in AAA instead.
6) Penta 0M & Rey Fénix (LU) © b Jack Evans & Pagano [HOG TAG] MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by +LuchaTV) Penta OM y Rey Fénix vs Pagano y Jack Evans Campeonatos de Parejas HOG en MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Dr. Wagner was briefly announced, then replaced by Jack Evans hours later.

A lot of matches were said to be good and nothing great here instead. The main event wasn’t much but the turnout was pretty good.

CMLL’s Arena Puebla show has Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas & Volador Jr. against Dragon Lee, Terrible, and Valiente, a rematch from last week. Volador & Dragon Lee were feuding last week, though plenty of teases to matches have ended up elsewhere in Puebla this year. Atlantis is wrestling, for some reason, with Flyer & Titan against Hechicero, Templario, and Vangellys. The Panther brothers & Kraneo take on Hijo del Villano III, Universo 2000 Jr. and Mascara 2000 (also for some reason.) The Costa Rica luchadors from CWE return for a couple of shows, starting tonight against Drone, Fuego and Guerrero Maya.  The opener is an all locals affair. This streams at 9:00 pm on YouTube.

+LuchaTV has an interview with Hijo del Silver King from his debut, where he says he’s going to give people a lot to talk about. That’s proved to be accurate.

A stream of Soberano Jr. playing video games.


AAA , EMW (FRI) 09/27/2019 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Rayo Star vs Jake AtlasFantastickDouglas JamesDrakeGriffSatana
2) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana, Último Maldito vs Arandú, Arkángel Divino, TJ Boy, Xtasis
3) Australian Suicide, Steve Pain, Villano III Jr. vs Hijo de Canis Lupus, Kamik-C, Skalibur
4) La Hiedra, Myzteziz Jr., Toxin vs Black Boy, Lady Lee, Mirage
5) Averno, Daga, Súper Fly vs Genio del Aire, Jonathan, Tony Casanova
6) Pagano vs Nicho el Millionario

This is the AAA vs indie themed show, which also seems to be dealing with less big names than usual.

CMLL (& ROH) weekend roundup, next Friday’s lineup

(saving AAA for tomorrow, there’s plenty to read on Twitter already)

CMLL (SAT) 09/07/2019 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Fantasy & Kaligua b Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Universo 2000
tecnicos took 2/3
2) Retro, Robin, Sangre Imperial b Inquisidor, Príncipe Odín Jr., Yago
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Vangellys b Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa
rudos took 1/3.
4) Fuego b Disturbio [lightning]
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Kráneo, Soberano Jr., Volcano
rudos took 1/3
6) Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Diamante Azul DQ Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
tecnicos took 2/3, with Casas fouling Azul to set up a match

Diamante Azul vs Negro Casas seems like a bad use of either man.

The Crash (SAT) 09/07/2019 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [@jorgeGCRR, The Crash, Zona Ruda]
1) Miranda Alize & Torito Negro b Terror Azteca & Vipress
2) Ricky Martinez b Dan MoloneyEl Mesías
3) Flamita b Ricky Shane
4) Mr. Iguana, Súper Astro, Súper Astro Jr. b Arandú, Star Boy, Zarco
Super Astro Jr. impressed in a good match
5) Cuatrero & Sansón DQ Trauma I & Trauma II
Cuatrero tossed his mask to the Traumas to draw the DQ
6) Travis Banks, Trent Seven, Tyler Bate b Bestia 666, Mecha Wolf, Rey Horus
very good match

This show sounds like it was pretty good. Turnout was not.

LA Park, Fatu, Jimmy Havoc, Dragon Lee & Barbaro Cavernario were advertised as appearing on the next The Crash show. That’s the MLW TV taping and the first three are regulars there. Fatu was shortly a regular in The Crash before disappearing randomly. Dragon Lee & Cavernario are CMLL regulars and so it’s a bit unexpected to see them work for something being taped for MLW.

CMLL (SUN) 09/08/2019 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Espíritu Negro & Grako b Bengala & Leono
rudos took 1/3
2) Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora b La Guerrera, La Magnifica, Sanely
rudas took 2/3
3) Flyer, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa b Disturbio, Olímpico, Universo 2000 Jr.
tecnicos took 2/3
4) Dulce Gardenia b Misterioso [lightning]
Dulce won via kiss.
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente b Felino, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible
tecnicos took 2/3
6) Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Místico
Flyer replaced Diaamtne Azul. Rudos took 1/3.

La Magnifica says she’s sticking around in CMLL. (We’ll see if CMLL can decide which side she’s on if she does stick around.) Dulce Gardenia wants a hair vs mask match with Misterioso.

CMLL in ROH results:

Saturday in Chicago

  • Silas Young & Josh Woods b PJ Black & Okumura
  • The Briscoes b the Bouncers and Rey Bucanero & Hechicero
  • Rush b Barbaro Cavernario
  • Jeff Cobb, Jay Lethal, Jonathan Gresham b Caristico, Stuka and Triton
  • Matt Taven b Volador Jr. for the ROH Championship

Either Rush/Cavernario or the trios match might have been the best match. Hechicero was far more over (with largely the local lucha fans) than Volador was in his title match, which a problem with the title match.

Sunday in Milwaukee

  • PJ Black b Flip Gordon & Triton
  • Caristico, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. b Okumura, Hechicero, Rey Bucanero
  • Bandido, Tracy Williams, Mark Haskins b The Briscoes & Barbaro Cavernario
  • Rush & Jeff Cobb b Matt Taven & Vincent Marseglia

Triton was eating pins every night in his last weekend connected to CMLL. Rey Bucanero isn’t going anywhere but was taking pinfalls a lot – until this night, because Hechicero was the only one on the team who could take a finish from Volador. Hechicero did well and should be back brought back but I don’t know if that’ll happen. The CMLL involvement went generally about what should’ve been expected: fun matches though nothing great (though I haven’t seen all of Milwaukee) and crowds who were mostly unaware of them. There were some lucha libre fans who came out for the CMLL crew in the Chicago show, but it didn’t seem like much and it seemed like even less the other two shows. If the hope was CMLL to be an easy substitute for NJPW, it didn’t seem to meet that goal. If it was more just to continue to strengthen the relationship between the two companies, it seems like that went well.

Pro Wrestling Revolution has Ultimo Dragon vs Hijo del Santo on 10/05 in San Jose.


CMLL (FRI) 09/13/2019 Arena México
1) Robin & Súper Astro Jr. vs Akuma & Espanto Jr.
2) Dulce Gardenia, Esfinge, Fuego vs Disturbio, Sagrado, Tiger
3) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis Jr., Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
4) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas [lightning]
6) Cavernario, Ciber the Main Man, Diamante Azul vs Big Daddy, Gilbert el Boricua, Último Guerrero

The CMLL Friday lineups seem to have returned to a Saturday afternoon release schedule.

Big Daddy is working no shows this week outside of Friday, which is a vote of no confidence.

First Volador/Casas match in two years. Casas is going to go under ten minutes, best make it a lightning match.

Match four should be good and the third match should be good.

Esfinge is still around. A bunch of people who seemed to quit Arena Coliseo Guadalajara while his father was in charge made a mass run-in on Sunday’s Guadalajara show, so

Misticos defeat NGD, ROH/CMLL weekend, AAA in NY matches, AAA back on Twitch Sunday

Star Jr.

CMLL (FRI) 09/06/2019 Arena México [CMLL, ESTOLucha CentralMarcaNotimexOvacionesR de RudoThe Gladiatoresthecubsfan]
1) Shockercito & Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Violencia & Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 6 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Tiger b Magia Blanca, Príncipe Diamante, Star Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 6 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:58. Rudos took 1/3.
3) El Audaz, Soberano Jr., Titán b El Hijo del Villano III, Mecha Wolf 450, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 6 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
19:09. Tecnicos took 1/3. Mecha Wolf replaced Templario on Wednesday
4) Diamante Azul b Euforia [Copa 78 Aniversario del Diario ESTO] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 6 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:10. Diamante Azul submitted Euforia in a one fall match.
5) Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Big Daddy, Ciber the Main Man, Gilbert el Boricua LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 6 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:09. Straight falls. Ciber rolled up UG clean after a foul on Negro Casas.
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Místico b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 6 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:56. Tecnicos took 1/3.

CMLL promos include

Media interviews with

  • Mecha Wolf, who’d like to return to CMLL (Box Y Lucha)
  • Big Daddy & Ciber, who say they’ll work together in the cage match (Box Y Lucha, +LuchaTV)
  • NGD (Box Y Lucha, +LuchaTV)
  • Dragon Lee & Mistico (Box Y Lucha,+LuchaTV)
    • You can tell Dragon Lee & Mistico would really like to be teaming in the title match and do not understand why they’re not. That’s fair, no one else does either.

Tercera and main event were good and two good Friday night matches is better than usual. The cage match build is more of a boring mess than actively bad, an improvement. I still didn’t feel like I liked the show all that much.

Dragon Rojo was back commentating for the Televisa broadcast. He remains on a very long road to returning to the ring.

some results from ROH in Dearborn last night

  • Rush beat Triton
  • Villian Enterprise (Marty Scurll, Flip Gordon, PCO, Brody King) beat Okumura, Rey Bucanero, Hechicero, Barbaro Cavernario
  • Volador Jr. & Stuka Jr. beat Matt Taven & Vincent Marseglia
  • Bandido beat Jay Briscoe

Bandido/Jay Briscoe was really good. Somehow the post match led to Matt Taven & Rush facing off, which also doesn’t say much for Volador’s chances today. The Atomicos wasn’t a great fit but it did get over in the end. I think Stuka & Triton getting switched around happened for the obvious “Triton is finishing up” reasons.

tonight at ROH in Chicago (Villa Park), 7 pm CT start on Honor Club

  • Matt Taven (c) vs Volador Jr. for the Ring of Honor championship
  • Barbaro Cavernario vs Rush
  • Jeff Cobb, Jay Lethal, Jonathan Greshman vs Caristico, Stuka Jr. and Triton
  • Silas Young & Josh Woods vs PJ Black & Okumura
  • Lifeblood (Mark Haskins, Bandido, Tracy Williams) vs Villano Enterprises (Flip Gordon, PCO, Brody King)
  • The Briscoes vs The Bouncers vs Rey Bucanero & Hechicero

Everyone would be shocked if Volador actually won but that still should be a good match. Cavernario should get in more than Triton did.

tomorrow at ROH in Milwaukee, 5 pm start on Honor Club

  • Lifeblood (Mark Haskins, Bandido, Tracy Williams) vs The Briscoes & Barbaro Cavernario
  • Triton vs PJ Black vs Flip Gordon
  • Caristico, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. vs Okumura, Hechicero and Rey Bucanero
  • Rush & Jeff Cobb vs the Kingdom

I was thinking about going to this one before I remembered AAA had it’s only TV taping of the month on the same day.

AAA returns to Twitch Sunday night from Puebla. The stream start time is 6:30, so figure on matches a little bit after. The lineup is here, the lineup is always subject to change. Dr. Wagner Jr. has been added to the show, Hijo del Vikingo is off the show, LAX are in for the show, Latigo is off in China for OWE by now but is still listed. It’s a good group of wrestlers no matter where they end up using them.

There are three surprise luchadors listed. One is planned to be Abismo Negro Jr. The others are also expected to be old gimmicks coming back with new people underneath them, with AAA working under the idea that they’re not going to push the wrestlers who’ve been in prelim roles until they have a gimmick AAA owns. Anyone you see doing a new version of an old gimmick is someone you’ve seen on AAA shows recently. Octagon and Hijo del Octagon seem to believe one of those characters to return will be a new Octagon and have already put up a video statement against it. Sunday’s going to be interesting to see the reactions both live and on social media.

Lucha Central has a preview of the show.

AAA announced two new matches for the 09/15 New York show

  • Cain Velasquez, Brian Cage, Psycho Clown vs Rey Escorpion, Texano Jr., Terrible, Taurus
  • Lucha Brothers vs LAX for the AAA Tag Team Championship

The matches were announced timed with Velasquez in New York doing some work to promote the show. A press release, which referred to someone called Scorpion King, mentioned there are seven matches on the card. It’s AAA and this show so everything is subject to change, but that means we’re missing three more matches to go with these and the Demon/Wagner & Taya/Tessa matches previously announced. I am hesitant to guess on anything related to this show but it would make sense if they were announced during Sunday’s Twitch show.

The Velasquez match is his match from TripleMania with Cage dropped into Cody’s spot and Escorpion in for Killer Kross, who may be blocked off the show. Lucha Brothers vs LAX was a long Impact feud from earlier this year. I think they’re good matches for the ticket sales but this is now a card all of rematches. It remains a hard sell as a $30 PPV. (I suspect though that PPV may only exist to help cover the costs for recording this for Azteca.)

AAA posted their new video ad roughly two dozen times on social media yesterday. It’s a big deal to them. I’m not sure it’s actually a big deal.

Other notable shows this weekend.


  • The Crash returns from a bit of a hiatus. Tonight’s show is billed as guests from Fight Club Pro, though the bigger names are more recognizable now as from NXT UK. Tyler Bate, Trent Seven and Travis Banks take on Reblion Amarilla’s Bestia 666, Mecha Wolf and Rey Horus. Semi-main has Cuatrero & Sanson vs Los Traumas.
  • MDA runs in Saltillo with a Lucha Brothers vs Jack Evans/Laredo Kid main event and Dragon Bane vs Aramis. Bigger shows from here tend to turn up on the Estrellas del Ring channel.
  • The AAA NY show is not the only high profile lucha libre show in New York this weekend. There’s a show featuring CMLL talent tonight in Brooklyn, though the exact people involved has changed around a bit with some of those names pulled to ROH instead.
  • CMLL has a regular Arena Coliseo show.


  • MDA comes to Naucalpan, this time with Jack Evans & Pagano vs Penta & Fenix and Argenis vs Aeroboy vs Dragon Bane. Star time is at 6 pm and there’s always a chance this could turn up on the InternetTV/AYM Sports YouTube page airing live.
  • CMLL has a regular Arena Mexico show.

Puma King lost the Ironman Heavymetalweight Championship in his last DDT match today. Then he won it back after the match because it’s defended under 24/7 rules. Puma says he’s taking it to Mexico and the US so a lot of other people are likely to win.

Referee El Popo passed away Friday.

The Nuestra Lucha series that focused on the life of Mexican luchadors is getting a second season and planning to go the US and Japan to show wrestling there.

LuchaWorld has a new podcast up.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-09-06

Tiger has enough of the headscissors

Recapped: 09/06/2019


Shockercito & Último Dragóncito beat Pequeño Violencia & Pierrothito
(10:55 [5:01, 2:58, 2:56], 2/3, ok)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Tiger beat Magia Blanca, Príncipe Diamante, Star Jr.
(15:58 [6:34, 3:30, 5:54], 1/3, ok)

El Audaz, Soberano Jr., Titán beat El Hijo del Villano III, Mecha Wolf 450, Virus
(19:09 [4:03, 6:21, 8:45], 1/3, good)

Diamante Azul beat Euforia for the Copa 78 Aniversario del Diario ESTO
(8:10, camel clutch, ok)

Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero vs Big Daddy, Ciber the Main Man, Gilbert el Boricua
(8:09 [2:59, 5:10], 1/2, ok)

Carístico, Dragón Lee, Místico beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(12:56 [2:50, 2:54, 7:12], 1/3, good)

What happened:

neither I nor the camera were ready for this dive

Caristico, Mistico & NGD talked about the trios title match after the main event.

In the second fall of the semi-main, Big Daddy fouled Negro Casas, UG clotheslined him and Gilbert, then Ciber rolled up UG clean for the straight fall win.

Diamante Azul got a trophy.


The main event was the best match on the show while at no attempt to mix it up. If you’ve seen the usual weekly stuff of the tecnicos and NGD, they mashed together in the way they usually do. This was more of a direct set up to the trios title match than usual, and perhaps that’s why Dragon Lee felt more downplayed than usual. That title match should be the noteworthy match, this is just the consistent if too predictable time prior to it.

They’re making the Ciber matches quick, though they’re still not good. They’re just bad for less time. Big Daddy fits the profile of the usual high profile foreigner in CMLL: energetic, wants to do stuff, has absolutely no idea what’s going on. He can talk, though I’m not sure that talking in English is working with for Mexican fans and tourists. The cage match seems headed to being sufficiently mediocre, the standard CMLL seems to aspire to at the moment.

Titan tope

Diamante Azul carrying so much weight really caught up to him when he tried the ramp clothesline. He clipped the ropes but still made it over. That was maybe the only way he was really over here. The match was a basic Diamante Azul showcase, with Euforia getting to kick out of a few things to keep the match going for a while. He did his best. Azul did the same sloppy performance seen from him all year.

Soberano has a big brace on this right shoulder and these are the only rudos willing to go after it. Give credit to Virus for starting the attack. They got a lot of time and there was a lot of action, though it didn’t really build in a huge way. Mecha Wolf fit in fine with these guys. Audaz had some big dives that make you wish he had more to actually do here.


Magia Blanca, Principe Diamante, and Star Jr. are all tecnicos equally lost in the second/third level mix. Star Jr. easily outpaced the other two in this match, pulling off the best high spots in this match. Magia Blanca doesn’t do much post-injury and Principe Diamante wasn’t impressive. Raziel & Cancerbero are better than Espanto & Signo, which is saying very little except Espanto & Signo are still booked higher than them for some reason.

The opener was competent if not a lot more. Shockercito, Ultimo Dragoncito, and Pierrothito are the long-time veterans getting to have a Friday night match. Hasn’t happened much for them lately, may not happen much more, but they didn’t make anything of it. Neither should we.

NGD vs Caristico/Mistico/Dragon tonight, CMLL/ROH Global Wars Espectacular tour begins, Daga

Tonight’s CMLL card looks a tiny bit different than usual but is really the start of a quiet period going into the Aniversario show. The semi-main focuses on the main event of the show. That’s what you’re supposed to do as a promoter but it’s hard to imagine the cage match they’ve set up catching fire in three weeks. The Aniversario is going to do well because CMLL’s trained fans that it’s a show they must go to every year, it’s just hard to imagine they’ll be convincing people on the fence in the next few weeks. It might be better not to see a lot of Big Daddy, Ciber and Gilbert at this point but here they are.

Those three – Ciber the Main Man, Big Daddy, and Gilbert el Boricua – take on CMLL rudos Ultimo Guerrero, Negro Casas, and Gran Guerrero. Volador & Cavernario are the other two people involved in the cage match at the moment, but they’re also off for the ROH tour this week, so Gran Guerrero gets drafted in.

The main event has NGD taking on Caristico, Mistico and Dragon Lee. That’s a bit of a build to Cuatrero, Sanson and Forastero defending their Mexican National Trios championships against Caristico, Mistico and Valiente. That oddness is that most people would say Dragon Lee is a bigger star than Valiente and there’s no obvious reason for the switch in the title match. This should be a good setup match regardless.

Diamante Azul takes on Euforia in a match sponsored by newspaper ESTO. Diamante Azul was previously known as Metro, after a rival paper. You hate to see someone change alliances like this. Titan, Soberano and Audaz take on Mecha Wolf, Hijo del Villano III and Virus in the tercara. It could be the best match on the show and looks like it’ll wrap up Mecha Wolf in CMLL for the time being. I think he would’ve been a slightly better fit for the cage match, but Big Daddy is big and Mecha Wolf is not and that’s probably all there is to it. Raziel & Cancerbero, who looked good getting a chance in a recent higher profile Tuesday match than usual, team with Tiger against Star Jr., Magic Blanca, and Principe Diamante. Ultimo Dragoncito & Shockercito take on Pierrothito & Pequeno Violencia in a rare minis match on a Friday.

The show streams on Marca and their YouTube tonight at 8:30 pm tonight. I’m back to streaming the show tonight and next week.

Lucha Central previews the show.

ROH CMLL Global Wars Espectacular begins tonight in Dearborn, Michigan. All shows air as part of the $10/month basic Honor Club subscription. You can also buy each individual show for $10 on FITE. Tonight’s show begins at 6:30 pm CT, two hours before CMLL begins on Marca. Lucha Libre matches on tonight’s show

  • Matt Taven & Vinny Marseglia vs Volador Jr. & Triton
  • Rush vs Stuka Jr.
  • Rey Bucanero, Okumura, Barbaro Cavernario and Hechicero vs Villian Enterprises (Flip Gordon, PCO, Brody King, Marty Scurll)
  • Bandido vs Jay Briscoe

Rush/Stuka is a match CMLL wouldn’t think to book on their own, though Rush’s dominance in CMLL might lead it to be a short one-sided match. The atomicos match should be good and Bandido/Briscoe should be pretty good.

Volador’s tag match is about setting up tomorrow’s title match. Triton appears to be finished up in CMLL and yet is still working these shows. I take my hat off to him. Caristico joins the tour tomorrow.

AAA’s show in New York has been a mystery in so many ways. One mystery is why the show wasn’t available to buy on FITE in Mexico. AAA solved that one last night, revealing the AAA NY show will air on Azteca on 09/20 (five-day delay.) This seems to just the normal TV slot but with the NY show airing possibly slightly out of order. Far more people will see this show on Azteca than on FITE (or live.)

Meanwhile, WWE’s announced Rey Mysterio vs Gran Metalik for MSG on Monday. It took a few hours for me to realize this was WWE trying to convince people who might be interested in going to the AAA show on Saturday that they can see two of the bigger names from Mexico by going to WWE a few days earlier instead. I don’t trust WWE will make it good but an attempt at counter-programming AAA should’ve been expected. (You can say many things with the AAA NY show haven’t gone right but by getting Gran Metalik a singles match on RAW they truly have accomplished the impossible.) I’d assume Andrade is getting a match on Tuesday.

A charity in Los Angeles says they’ll have AAA wrestlers as part of a function tomorrow. There’s no other word about this, which makes me suspect there’s just some confusion somewhere. Still, as much as we’re (I’m) caught up in whatever’s going on with that New York show, AAA really should also be promoting that Los Angeles show in some way by now to build momentum. I’d expect they’re not going to until after the New York show ends but this was always going to be a difficulty in running two shows in the US within a month.

Daga’s signed with Impact. He hinted at it on Twitter and +LuchaTV says it’s official. Daga was used on last night’s Impact taping in Las Vegas where he was paired up with Tessa Blanchard in that promotion as well. Daga’s wrestled a few times for Impact this year. It was concerning when he wasn’t on the Mexico City tapings but it seems to have worked out. His Impact deal would cover US dates only, so this wouldn’t affect him in Mexico. The timing suggests that Daga’s LU deal has recently expired as well.

Konnan was also on the Las Vegas Impact tapings. It was unclear what his role was going to be with LAX leaving the promotion (and AEW apparently not bringing him in with them.) He appears affiliated with the ex-ECW guys in the Impact at the moment.

El Hijo del Santo was listed as wrestling twelve matches last year. He’s got five matches lined up next month alone. It’s obvious something has changed with his situation. It’s good for people who like to see Hijo del Santo having wrestling matches, which is most people.

Cody Rhodes issued an apologized to Outsports for joining in the “puto” chant at TripleMania. There’s a meaning to that word that’s more nuanced than I can hope to adequately explain here, but the short version is much of the world treats it as a strong homophobic slur, while fans at wrestling (and a lot of Mexican sporting events) have a more “it’s just a simple insult, don’t take it so seriously” attitude towards it. As far as I can tell, AAA & CMLL have not had problems with their wrestlers leading the fans in that chant, where soccer teams have tried to ban it. I suspect Cody and AEW had no idea of the meaning of that word when he said and definitely when they made the strange choice to include as a clip of a video recapping Cody’s TripleMania experience. I sort of expected it to come to something there, but that article mentions Penta’s usage of the word during AEW’s show on Saturday. I’ve heard it on so many lucha libre shows that it didn’t even occur to me this time that people would be offended but AEW is a different audience.

AAA’s Toluca promoter has officially announced a 10/26 TV taping in nearby Zinacantepec. This matches the date given out by +LuchaTV a while back. This follows Heroes Inmortales in Orizaba.

Mil Mascaras is featured in a series determining the best Mexican athlete ever.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.


CMLL (TUE) 09/10/2019 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pierrothito
2) Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante vs Disturbio, Espíritu Negro, Nitro
3) Pegasso, Star Jr., Stigma vs Ares (Costa Rica), Escualo (Costa Rica), Kaiser (Costa Rica)
4) Rey Cometa vs Pólvora [lightning]
5) Flyer, Kráneo, Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
6) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

Polvora trying to keep winning in lightning matches is maybe the most interesting thing here. Espiritu Negro continues to pick up bookings that would’ve gone to Sangre Azteca. The minis open the show for the fourth straight week.

CMLL (TUE) 09/10/2019 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mágico, Metatrón, Rielero vs Exterminador, Maléfico, Ráfaga
2) Arkalis, Joker, Retro vs El Coyote, Hijo del Signo, Sádico
3) La Jarochita, La Maligna, Sonya vs Amapola, La Metálica, Reyna Isis
4) Diamante Azul, Dulce Gardenia, Soberano Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Costa Rica’s Sonya gets her match of the tour here. Exterminador is back after being off since May. Not sure how the holiday will affect Guadalajara’s schedule.

lucha TV preview for weekend of September 6th, 2019

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AAA is back on Twitch on Sunday night. (Don’t get used to it, it’s the only AAA on Twitch for September.) The card we have is likely not correct since Dr. Wagner Jr. is still missing and Hijo del Vikingo is still working. Don’t think one is replacing each other.

AAA on YouTube covers the Aguascalientes taping in just one episode. They’ll be on TripleMania next week.

CMLL Sunday shows should wrap up the Rest of the World appearances. This also doesn’t include the CMLL wrestlers on ROH’s Honor Club all weekend long. For what’s it worth, CMLL did not air on TV Mexiquense last weekend and doesn’t appear to be on their schedule.

full CMLL Aniversario card announced, Abismo Negro Jr. to debut

the concept here is the CMLL programming department was so shocked by having a cage match that they didn’t have a contract ready and had to just scrawl something on the back of another contract and they’re showing it off to show how serious they are about everything. The reality is everyone outside of CMLL looked at this and laughed, and they never should’ve shown it on camera.

CMLL announced the full card for the 86th Aniversario show on Informa.

CMLL (FRI) 09/27/2019 Arena México
1) Audaz, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Misterioso Jr., Tiger, Virus
2) Diamante Azul, Dulce Gardenia, Titán vs Hechicero, Hijo del Villano III, Rey Bucanero
3) Dalys vs ? © [CMLL WOMEN]
fifth defense if Marcela still champion.
4) Ángel de Oro, Mephisto, Niebla Roja vs Dragón Lee, Euforia, Gran Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]
5) Microman vs Chamuel [mask]
6) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón © vs Carístico, Místico, Valiente [MEX TRIOS]
13 defense
7) Último Guerrero vs Big DaddyNegro CasasCavernarioVolador Jr.Gilbert el BoricuaCiber the Main Man [cage, hair]

Dragon Lee is a question mark; the WON had him in Las Vegas on this date.

The CMLL hype for this card is they’re giving the fans two apuesta matches and two championships, four big matches. Maybe the additional relevos incredibles is the best example of the problem with that: it definitely has something attached to the match, but it’s hard to believe anyone cares any more about seeing the mixed-up teams rather than the usual people together. It’s still about the same match. NGD vs three random tecnicos should be good but the titles mean so little that making it a champion match makes little defense when the match comes out of nowhere. (There’s actually a better version of the same match happening this Friday anyway.) The Dalys/Marcela match seems to be a big deal only to a small amount of people and the main event didn’t even seem appealing to those inside it. Quantity does not outweigh quality.

The cage match is a compromise in storyline and probably also in reality, a way to get to a match they didn’t feel comfortable promoting as a singles Aniversario main event. There have been four cage matches in recent Aniversario history. In recent years, the cage matches end with a one fall singles match.

  • 2011: Felino takes Rey Bucanero’s hair
  • 2010: La Sombra takes Olimpico’s mask
  • 2007: Blue Panther takes Hijo del Lizmark’s hair
  • 2001: Satanico takes Mascara Magica’s mask

None of those matches would’ve worked on their own. Panther/Lizmark is the closest. Blue Panther was more a long time semi-main veteran than the legend he is now, but CMLL very clearly didn’t trust that match as big enough on its own. Sombra/Olimpico wouldn’t have worked as a singles main event at all in 2010 and never did happen in a meaningful singles match before or after. Felino/Bucanero might have worked as a Homenaje a Dos Leyendas show and surely as a lesser show but not an Aniversario show even with them being on a reality show at the time. Satanico is the biggest star of any of these guys at the time of the match but he was already being moved down by that point and Mascara Magica was an anonymous midcarder before being pulled into a feud so he could be the guy to lose his mask. CMLL did just run an Aniversario main event of Gran Guerrero vs Niebla Roja, so the bar has been lowered than it was years ago, but going back to a cage suggests the ending match is not something CMLL felt safe promoting as an Aniversario main event. It’s never about the quality of the match but instead the star power of the people involved.

That seems to rule out this cage match as a ruse to get to Ciber vs Ultimo Guerrero. The match has been and would be bad but that doesn’t seem to be a factor. Ciber, UG, and Volador losing their hair is important enough to be a singles match against just about anyone. I would put Cavernario in that group as well – once you main event a real match Aniversario you’re a made man – though I know everyone doesn’t agree on that. That would leave Big Daddy, Negro Casas and Gilbert el Boricua. Big Daddy losing his hair would be a deeply cynical move. I’m not sure if anything could run off the remaining CMLL diehard fans but Big Daddy being the loser in the Aniversario would be a stiff test. It really doesn’t even matter if Big Daddy is good or bad, he’s only been around for five minutes and he’d need to drastically catch fire in the next three weeks for a long time CMLL fan to care about him losing his hair.

That leaves Negro Casas & Gilbert. If you’ve watched Ricky Banderas in Lucha Underground or AAA or WWC, he’s likely as big a star as Ciber and Ultimo and the rest. The people in charge of CMLL clearly do not seem him the same way, having never gone strong with Gilbert since he’s been there. (Gilbert isn’t close to what he was as Mil Muertes, but neither is Ciber.) Maybe CMLL doesn’t seem him as big enough star to main event an Aniversario show with, but would they give him a hair payoff then? Negro Casas is a star, though one clearly near the end. He’s so close to the end that he may not feel comfortable doing a long main event, as most of his singles matches go under ten minutes now. He’s also lost his hair so many times and it hardly ever matters, but he’s a big enough name that CMLL can point to it as an important win both now and later. (Selfishly, I’ve always wanted to see the Cavernario/Casas torch passing match. CMLL’s unlikely to do the feud, but this may be a way to get to that match.) I think Casas fits the best as the person most likely to lose, though it’s not a cinch.

The idea is this Aniversario best card CMLL has to offer. It’s hard to make a case that Stigma & Rey Bucanero are either among the best CMLL has to offer or the most deserving. (It’s impossible to make that case for Big Daddy.) There’s a lot of unhappiness. Blue Panther Jr. and Zeuxis made negative comments on Twitter Wednesday night which were later deleted. There are stories of other issues beyond programming behind the scenes that are angering luchadors. The transition to a post-Paco Alonso era has not gone smoothly and there are rumors of others who maybe be following Sangre Azteca & Triton out of the promotion. If this sounds troubling, it is because it is troubling.

One of the reasons given for Cavernario pulling off of PWG’s Battle of Los Angeles tournament was CMLL needed him for the Aniversario show. That didn’t quite make sense at the time because no one believed the Aniversario show was on the 20th. It’s still not, it’s the week after, and maybe the idea actually was CMLL needed him for the build-up that match. That would suggest CMLL knew they were going end up with this cage match a few weeks ago, even though the entire build for it came just in the last few days. It was CMLL’s choice to wait until the last minute to set up anything but they might have decided it was their end point for a while.

Diario Basta has a column by Salvador Trejo, saying himself and the paper’s sports editor Rodrijo Mojica, were blocked from attending the CMLL Aniversario pres conference by Julio Cesar Rivera. The paper decided they weren’t going to let CMLL dictate their coverage and did not cover the press conference. People in CMLL generally claim to not read or pay attention to outside coverage, though someone there must be finding the negative stuff and passing it around. Other media people have been called into CMLL for questioning about something they’ve written or banned entirely in the past, going back to SuperLuchas being banned over a decade ago. JCR and Ultimo Guerrero obliquely referenced and complained about negative reaction to the Aniversario card on CMLL Informa yesterday. For Diario Basta in particular, a recent lucha libre article was critical of not following up on the Rush vs LA Park rivalry, so maybe that’s what got them banned.

An “Abismo Negro Jr.” is listed on the 10/11 AAA non-televised show in Aguascalientes. My understanding is Abismo Negro Jr. is slated to be one of the surprise luchadors on Sunday’s taping. The name I’ve heard for the role is a familiar person, but I feel safer waiting for Sunday to see if AAA actually goes with it.

Abismo Negro was a top rudo for AAA from 1997 to 2009, one of the iconic characters of the promotion during the period between the initial boom and Antonio Pena passing away. He’d earlier been tecnico Winners, one of the original few who jumped from CMLL to start the promotion. He was a charismatic evil-doer, maybe best compared to Pentagon Jr. in terms of personality if not as a wrestler, who crossed over into the mainstream and had some memorable moments with people outside of wrestling coming into AAA. Abismo Negro dealt with drugs issues and passed away in a strange and sad situation back in 2009.

AAA shot a pilot for a secondary TV show in 2011 at Arena Lopez Mateos called “El Regreso del Abismo”, where the winner of a tournament would become the new Abismo Negro. That pilot never made air. The reaction to AAA bringing back the original Abismo Negro was harshly negative, though I suspect the show didn’t happen more just because AAA couldn’t line up a sponsor for it. I don’t remember this at all, but my post at the time mentions AAA had even said there would never be a new Abismo Negro after the original one had died. Among the 12 luchadors who qualified for the tournament were Argos, Kronos (now Kill Korton), Hijo del Pirata Morgan, Black Mamba (current exotico Mamba who was a ninja), and Dark Dragon/Pentagon Jr. himself. I wonder how the last seven years would’ve gone if he ended up with the Abismo Negro Jr. character instead.

The AAA Aguascalientes also has a Raptor listed. I’m unsure if the old Raptor has quickly returned to AAA or they’ve just put someone new under the mask.  This show also has the LA Parks vs Blue Demon/Rey Escorpion and the Lucha Brothers vs Laredo Kid/Golden Magic, so someone’s paying a lot for these shows.

Arena Coliseo Monclova on Monday has a team of Angel o Demonio & Blue Demon, two people famous for using blocks in their matches. Angel O Demonio has been loud about Demon stealing the bit from him, though Angel o Demonio is loud and doing a bit about most things.

Violento Jack will be on the 10/03 Lucha Libre Vanguardia show. He says it’s his only date in Mexico for the time being.

Lucha Talk has a new edition of the podcast.


CMLL (MON) 09/09/2019 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano, Meyer, Millenium vs Ares el Poblano, Black Tiger, Guerrero Espacial
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Ares (Costa Rica), Escualo (Costa Rica), Kaiser (Costa Rica)
3) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Kráneo vs Hijo del Villano III, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 Jr.
4) Atlantis, Flyer, Titán vs Hechicero, Templario, Vangellys
5) Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. vs Dragón Lee, Terrible, Valiente

Puebla’s Ares is back for the first time since May, the same show as the Costa Rica Ares and his crew are back. They won’t be in for long; they’re headed to Japan on the 15th for Mr. Cacao. Drone faces them here and then heads to Costa Rica on the 28th.

The main event certainly suggests they’ll be running Dragon Lee/Volador II on 09/16. Except, Dragon Lee is already booked in Arena Lopez Mateos that day. He might be able to make both at the normal Arena Puebla start time but they’re planning on starting early for the holiday. Not sure how that’s going to work. I do think that 09/16 Puebla show is now airing since CMLL doesn’t appear to be running Arena Mexico that day after all.

Lucha Libre Real (SAT) 09/21/2019 Domo del Deportivo Plan Sexenal, Distrito Federal
1) Lunatik Fly & Lunatik Xtreme vs Moria & Sobredosis
2) Vazco Jr. vs DemasiadoChris Stone Jr.Juventud AereaLeviathamWarrior Jr.Dragón FlyTroyanoRey SicarioYoruba [Copa Independencia]
3) Baronessa & Rossy Moreno vs Lady Flammer & Sexy Dulce
4) The Tiger vs Xtreme Tiger vs Tiger Casas
5) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Demus & Hijo Del Espectro
6) Aeroboy & Low Rider vs Drako & Fresero Jr. and Emperador Azteca & Hijo del Volador and Legendario & Supernova
7) Cuatrero, Forastero (NGD), Sansón, Universo 2000 Jr. vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Ozz, Dark Scoria, Dark Spíritu
8) Último Guerrero vs Cibernético vs Michael Elgin

Flying in Michael Elgin to have a match where Ciberentico is not going to want to do Michael Elgin stuff is an interesting way to set money on fire. I can’t complain about having all the Tigers face off though.

Super Nova (or the people who make the posters) appears to be stylizing his name as “Supernova” in this indie run. I’m trying to keep up.