AAA and ELITE are pretty safe bets, since they’re both the second half of tapings. The trios match on Elite is a really good sounding match that we probably wouldn’t have gotten to see either. The AAA show is heavy on the Perros/Fronterazos feud.
The Puebla main event not having the Ingobernables and still being a relevos incredibles match is pretty annoying. Other matches on that card look fine.
There’s no lineup for next CMLL Tuesday yet. I dunno.
Pedro Ocadiz, the composer of the song “Los Luchadores”, passed away. If you’ve heard a lucha libre song, you’ve probably heard that one: “El Santo, Cavernario, Blue Demon, el Bulldog” is the lyric from the chorus, and it’s go to song for any news feature lucha libre in Mexico. SuperLuchas reprinted an interview with him from a few years ago; he mentions he didn’t know “Bulldog” was the name of an actual luchador when he put him in the song, he just needed a word that fit.
AAA announced the Pachuca taping would be moving two days later, from Sunday at the bull ring to Tuesday at Arena Aficion. There was a AAA spot show advertised for that day already, so maybe this is some deal to replace that. AAA hasn’t taped in Arena Aficion since the early 2000s, and it might be the smallest venue they’ll run for TV in a long time. It seems a little bit smaller than Arena Naucalpan.
They’re also now listing Mesias in the luchador surprise spot, teaming with fellow Team Trump member Hernandez against Dr. Wagner & Texano Jr.
In that same arena on Tuesday, Canek defeated Mr. Jack for the IWL Heavyweight Championship. The idea is it’s El Fantasma’s title, but he was too busy in his job of Mexico City lucha libre commissioner to remain champion. (He was on the show; he could’ve easily defended it and lost in the main event.)
On Tuesday’s MLW Radio show, Konnan talked about Dorian near the end. As SuperLuchas put it, Konnan called Dorian incompetent, talking mostly about Dorian being first years on the job. Konnan said he’d find Dorian playing Mafia Wars or Candy Crush instead of taking his job seriously, or leaving the office to catch a movie. Konnan blamed Dorian for the terrible deal with Lucha Libre USA, including the money AAA had to pay to finally get out of it, and for putting out the DVD wiht Hijo del Santo – Konnan’s bigger point was that Dorian would’ve been fired long ago if he wasn’t a family member. Konnan claimed he wasn’t bitter about leaving AAA.
(Konnan’s case about Dorian being immature would’ve been slightly stronger if he didn’t take a bong hit during the podcast which some how caused him to disappear for about 10 minutes.)
The WON mentions Court Bauer says he was not forced to choose between MLW/Konnan and AAA/LU. (He also said it himself on his podcast on Friday.) He says it did come up, but they had negotiated around it – Konnan going silent on the rare times they’d talk about AAA/LU in recent months – and it wasn’t the reason Bauer left. Bauer’s been hinting about a WWE/NXT deal this weekend on Twitter.
This week’s CMLL Informa mentioned Diamante Azul has not yet returned from France and would be back next week instead. I’m guessing they meant on Informa itself, and he’d still be back for his matches this weekend (there’s got to be more than one flight a week from France to Mexico), but he may be replaced. The hosts also calmed down concerns about Arena Coliseo, saying CMLL would be back running Sabado Retros next week.
A CMLL recap of the breakup of the Ingobernables has La Mascara pointing out he always had always went against his family in the Ingobernables but Rush wasn’t willing to do the same. More interesting, the recap explains people hate Comandante Pierroth because they see only Norberto Salgado as the only real Pierroth (as if this new guy’s gimmick is officially being a Fake Pierroth, which definitely wasn’t the way it started.) Meanwhile, Rush & Pierroth talk about how no one’s tough like in the old days.
The WON mentions Dragon Lee is not expected in NJPW’s Super J tournament – that’s the two night tournament being held in July and August, not the one Volador is in starting this week. My impression has been other people are being looked at being used as CMLL’s representative.
Sagrado & Misterioso are unhappy Pierroth called them lazy and out of shape, and want to go after his mask. That’s probably not happening. In the same vein, Rey Escorpion on Informa said he was unimpressed with Dragon Rojo & Polvora; he’s probably the third Ingobernable with Rush & Pierroth.
Silver King, who promotes in Torreon, announced he’s going to run a Copa Junior Elite. It’s the Elite name and same weekly league format, but they’re doing 2 points for a win like the Japanese leagues Silver King has been in. He’s splitting it into two groups. Group A has Hijo del Ninja, Silver King, Hijo de LA Park, Hijo de Fishman, Gran Kalifa Jr., Halcon Suriano Jr. and Stukita. Group B has Shocker, Dr. Wagner Jr., Hijo de Dr. Wagner Jr., Hijo del Espectro Jr., Hijo de Dos Caras, Hijo del Medico Asesino, Antrax Jr. It’s all the problems of the Elite tournament plus putting AAA & CMLL guys against each other plus doing it Torreon where many of those guys don’t live. And, it’s Torreon, where no one writes about results of shows, so it’d be tough to get over the concept even if everything else worked out. (It’ll probably not come up again.) They’re hoping for the final in September.
Daga [O] beat Máscarita Sagrada [X], Kobra Moon, Argenis (4:58, Thunder Rosa sit down Air Raid Crash→Daga elbow drop , OK)
Killshot beat Marty the Moth (7:08, storm cradle driver, good)
Chavo Guerrero [O] beat Aerostar, Texano, Joey Ryan [X], the Mack, Marty Martinez, Sexy Star (8:32, Cage Drill Claw->pin, good)
Chavo Guerero is the new Gift of the Gods champion without having even won a Medallion match. Chavo was able to use Cage’s stolen Medallion after tricking Cage into stealing back a medallion sized washer instead. Dario ruled whoever place the Medallion in the belt got entry into the belt, so Cage was out of the match. There was no clear favorite in the match, and everyone eventually teamed up to take out Chavo, only for Cage to walk into the match and destroy everyone but Chavo. Chavo won the match and is indeed the Gift of the Gods champion – this week, and maybe this week only, since Cage revealed Dario had already given him a shot against the winner for the belt next week.
Marty tried confronting Killshot before their match, and ended up on his back. The match was no different, with Killshot pulling out his finish in an even match. Marty took this badly, attacking Killshot and taking his dogtags.
Kobra Moon was more interested in flirting with Daga than winning the match, even giving up the likely winning pin so Daga could take it instead. Daga didn’t appear too interested in anything besides the win.
Vampiro’s “recovery” strategy for healing Pentagon appears to be hurting Pentagon so much that he becomes immune to pain. This week, Vampiro hit Pentagon first with a cane, then a barbed wire bat, as the show ended.
The grades are all about the same, but Marty/Killshot was the best match of the night for me. The others had a few highlights that gave some value for them, these two guys did the best of putting together a match. They clicked well together with a few really impressive spots – Marty catching the dive looked really good, and Killshot’s offense looked sharp. The post match felt a little hammy but obviously the feud must continue.
The fans didn’t seem particularly into the Gift of the Gods match or rooting for any particular person to win, which hurt. They really seemed into the concept at Ultima Lucha. This match was left as a collection of big spots, some cute, but it didn’t overall feel on the level of the other massive man matches they’ve done. Chavo winning was a groaner, and can only salvaged by Cage destroying him next week. There’s decent hope of that – we are a long way from episode 2 LU lead rudo Chavo.
The four way was as good as it could’ve been expected to be when the random selection of people (and Daga & Argenis were better at working with Máscarita than most people they could’ve picked.) Not sure what to make of Kobra Moon & Daga, though between it and Joey & Sexy in the main event, we had two intergender “fights” that turned into something else.
My first thought when this was over was to check my notes and figure out how much longer we have of these Pentagon Jr./Vampiro vignettes. They are not working for me. Pentagon will get built up at the end, as everyone does, but they’re taking him way down before they get there. And the Ian/Vampiro thing is just all over the place’ maybe the idea is he’s now Vampiro all the time but pretending to be Ian at the Temple, but I’m not sure and I’m not sure I care all that much. I’d like to just get back to seeing Pentagon in the ring, soon.
This was one of the weaker episodes of the season; it’s felt like a lot of setup for things they’re going to payoff later, and the payoff episodes are the much better ones. There was nothing terrible on this one, but not a lot worth going back and checking out.
CMLL (TUE) 05/17/2016Arena México [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Demus 3:16 & Mercurio b Aéreo & Último Dragóncito 13:32. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Metálico b Flyer, Metatrón, Robin 15:51. Rudos took 1/3. Metatron replaced Star Jr.
3) Soberano Jr. b Sangre Azteca [lightning] 8:23. Soberano won via small pacakge.
4) Blue Panther Jr., Oro Jr., The Panther DQ El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo 11:31. Straight falls, with Skandalo feuding with Panther and unmasking him in the second fall.
5) Bobby Z, Mephisto, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr. 14:39. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Máscara Dorada, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero 11:17. Tecnicos took 2/3. Ultimo Guerrero bullied Stuka, Stuka beat him in the end.
This show died in the first hour and never really recovered. Skandalo losing his mask to The Panther as a retirement makes some sense on paper, but I’m not sure I’d like to see that two month feud. There wasn’t much of an indication they’re going that way, CMLL just has no real reason to do a Skandalo feud except for him to lose his mask right now.
Ultimo Guerrero has a championship and Stuka makes as much sense as a challenger as anyone, but there were no challengers. Like Monday night in Puebla, the main eventers just got out of there as quick as possible without saying anything.
There is no ELITE show today. They’ve moved to Saturday, at least for the moment. Today, Press Conference Wednesday, would make sense for an ELITE press conference to explain what’s going on, but there’s no sign of one happening.
Today’s Lucha Underground episode is “Crime and Punishment”, the 17th of the season. Matches on the show
Daga vs Kobra Moon vs Mascarita Sagrada vs Argenis
Over at Roster Resource, they list all the Lucha Underground luchadors sorted by tiers of importance. There’s no one they rank in tier one in a match tonight. There’s only a couple people in tier two. This show features the a lot of the bottom half of the roster by any measure, with people who’ve only lost feuds or haven’t been put in them. It doesn’t mean the show will be bad – people given opportunities usually do pretty well on Lucha Underground – but it’s interesting to see if the ratings reflect the lack of star power or if the week to week variance is shown to be more random noise than actionable information.
Rey Mysterio & Johnny Mundo were at the Univision upfront yesterday, taking photos with invitees. Univision owns 5% of El Rey and they appeared to be the (sole) representatives from the channel, but there was no news about the channel. Univision itself announced a deal with Netflix, but maybe not the one you’d expect: the TV network will be airing Netflix’s originals Club de Cuernos (soccer drama) and Narcos (drug drama) after they’ve aired on Netflix. Mysterio’s been doing press for Lucha Underground all week: this twitlonger post has links to his interviews with ESPN & SI.
AAA announced the third women’s team for the Lucha World Cup: a Team Canada, with Taya, KC Spinelli and TNA’s Allie. “TNA’s Allie” actually appeared with that name for the first time a few minutes after she was announced on the team; she debuted with the new name on last night’s TNA show, and is better know on the indies as Cherry Bomb. (She’s married to “TNA’s Braxton Sutter”, also better known as Pepper Parks, and it’s possible he’ll end up on one of the men’s teams.) Spinelli, like Taya, is a Lance Storm trainee who appeared on the World of Hurt reality show and has wrestled in Canada and in the US for women’s promotions.
Seven of the twelve teams are now complete. It seems like the LWC strategy is to announce a new name or trio every evening to keep people talking about it. Tonight would be a good night for the US people from Lucha Underground or Rey Mysterio’s team.
TNA announced Tigre Uno/Extreme Tiger has signed a new contract. There’s no details. There’ are reports TNA is trying to sign their wrestlers to exclusive contracts, which might mean he’d be prevented from working ELITE or elsewhere in Mexico. It wouldn’t be in Tiger’s interest to sign a deal like that – he’s working a lot more in Mexico than he is in TNA due to their limited schedule – so there must be something else going on.
Electroshock is listed under his AAA name, which is probably a mistake. Ultraman and Fuerza haven’t been here for a while. Imposible has been here for a while, and is giving Freelance a second chance in a row. Tercera is a prelude to a title match if Dinamic Black can win.
What happened:Rey Escorpión seemed to cause problems between La Mascara & Rush, but was dumped to the side at the end. The first two matches had botched finishes due to referees counting unplanned eliminations, and the third had a pointless DQ.
What was good:The semimain was the best match, with some of the undercard derailed by the bad finishes (and the main event hurt by feed issues.)
Where can I watch it: It’s on rockerGamer30’s channel.(more…)
CMLL (SUN) 05/15/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Esto es Lucha GDL, Fuego en el Ring]
1) El Diplomático b Micro
2) Fugaz & Johnny Dinamo b Carlo Roggi & Mr. Apolo
3) Capitán Cobra, Cosmos, Reyko b Gitano, Linterna, Relámpago Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Kempo Dragón & Príncipe Kisho b Gallo & Vaquero Jr. Sinaloa outsiders took 1/3. Kisho was eliminated, but pulled Gallo’s mask from the outside and Kempo got the pin. Kempo’s normally a tecnico and noted they didn’t win cleanly, but still wanted a shot at Gallo & Vaquero’s Pacific Coast tag titles, held by Vaquero & Gallo.
5) Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Ráfaga DCOR Joker, Maléfico, Sádico Team Joker took fall 1, Team Rafaga took fall 2, and both sides battled outside after dives for the very rare main event draw.
So, we have to have an unhappy conversation about Rush. We don’t even know if there’s something going on with Rush, so the unhappiness could just be getting concerned about something that’s not existent, not true. Still, Rush losing cleanly to one friend Marco here, the end of the Ingobernables setting up a singles match with Rush’s other friend La Mascara, and (at least) a short term run getting team with his father can be interpreted as Rush checking items off his CMLL bucket list, not so different from La Sombra’s single matches before he left town. It does not mean Rush is going to WWE, but it’s a possibility now worth considering as things go forward. It’s seems like something happened in the last month, with the Maximo/Marco vs Rush/Mascara program seemingly swapped out for Mascara/Rush, and an offer to go elsewhere is one of many possible reasons.
I don’t claim to know anything about this – I was very wrong about the trios title change last night – but I’m just pointing it out as something to keep an eye on.
(There’s not even any point in really asking Rush about it, because Sombra insisted there was nothing to him going to WWE until the day he showed up in Florida, though Rush deserves the chance to deny rumors all the same.)
Tonight’s CMLL main event is a reunion of Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero, best tag team of the early 2000s but mostly having gone separate ways for the last decade. They team with Gran Guerrero to take on Stuka, Mascara Dorada and Volador, in Volador’s final match before heading to Japan. Dragon Lee is listed as returning to action, after a 23 day injury break, teaming with Blue Panther & Guerrero Maya Jr. versus Mephisto, Vangellys and Bobby Z.
The fourth match includes the Dinamita kids (Sanson & Cuatrero) teaming with Skandalo against Oro and the panther kids. Soberano, probably in his own mask and gear this time, takes on Sangre Azteca in a lightning matches. The segunda match, with Flyer, Robin and Metaleon against Arkangel, Metalico and Canelo Casas and the opener, Ultimo Dragoncito & Aereo vs Demus 3:16, & Mercurio, don’t seem to offer much new or interesting, so maybe you’d like to tune in a little late. (Edit: Wait, Metaleon? That’s new. He’s in for Star Jr.) The show itself is scheduled to start at 7:30pm, and stream on CMLL and YouTube.
Kronosport posted Lady Maravilla’s message about leaving AAA, and it’s not totally clear if she left AAA or if AAA let her go after reading it. (Also, Facebook translates róster to rooster, which is not correct but definitely funny.) She was only rarely used on TV, as AAA have moved away from doing may all women matches. I think they’re down to Taya, Faby Apache, Mary Apache, Lady Shani, La Hiedra as regular, with La Hechicera working occasional house shows, Keira occasionally listed on shows and very occasionally working those shows, and Sexy Star technically employed.
There’s also a Mangifico & Templario interview when they say they’re from Ultimo Guerrero’s school, so Magnifico II is training with the same guy as his brother. Maybe Magia Blanca hasn’t been used yet because they’re waiting for Magnifico II to get approved to debut? (But then, no one’s of the trainees are going anywhere.)
Lucha Underground Executive Producer Eric Van Wagenen’s other show, the Apprentice, returns in January 2017. LU episodes seem to be finished (with all the extra work done after the live event is finished) a few weeks before they appear, but I wonder if they’ll just keep going and finish off many season 3 shows this fall so Van Wagene can shift to the Apprentice when that show airs.
CMLL (MON) 05/23/2016Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & Astro vs El Malayo & Guerrero Espacial
2) Oro Jr. & Soberano Jr. vs King Jaguar & Policeman
3) Astral vs Saurón [lightning]
4) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
5) Dragón Lee, Titán, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
6) Atlantis, Carístico, Negro Casas vs Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy, Mephisto [Relevos Increíbles]
Astral/Sauron don’t have their title match, but do have a singles match. Main event has some interesting combinations, and the top three could all be good matches.
This might be the last week of mediafire links. They’re discontinuing their desktop sync client in July, and their web upload client has always taken about 10-15x longer to upload files. I’m considering moving to Mega.nz unless someone has a better idea. (I’m using Dropbox for other uses and don’t want to mix these files on there.) I’m unsure of when I’ll switch, but it doesn’t make sense to keep putting them up on the service I won’t be using.
I subscribed to Mediafire a year, so the links will continue to work until January. You can always ask for the videos or download them off YouTube after that point.
There’s more Azteca HD episodes below, and I added some late last week if you missed them. Kamaitachi/Dragon Lee was 3 GBs alone.
I missed out on most of this week’s AAA episode; it aired much later than usual on one channel I record, and not at all the other. The PROESA episode was a repeat. The IWRG show started early, but it seemed like we caught most of the match. (more…)
AAA TV (SUN) 05/29/2016 Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
1) Atomic Boy, Dinastía, Pimpinela Escarlata, Venum vs Apache, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown, Soul Rocker
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs La Hiedra & Taya
3) Aerostar, Drago, Fénix vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin [#1 Contenders, AAA TRIOS]
4) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Damián 666, Halloween, Nicho el Millionario
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Texano Jr. vs ? & Hernandez
6) Psycho Clown vs Pentagón Jr. vs Pagano
Also, the TV show revealed Verano de Escandalo will take place on 06/19 in Monterrey. That’s a little bit of an interesting choice in venue, since some of the guys in Monterrey AAA might go to for help for local promotion are now doing a podcast with Konnan. Maybe everyone can just work together amicably.
They stopped putting the silhouette that gave away the mystery person! Now maybe just stop doing mystery person? It probably should be Cage or Mesias and it’d be odd for them not to just be listed. Still seems like they’re headed to Wagner/Parka/Texano vs Team Trump, which doesn’t seem like a big match for a PPV main event. (Maybe a six way instead?)
The finish in the third match feels telegraphed by Averno & Chessman already having an opponent for the tag titles. Xinetez/tecnicos should be good the second time. I don’t like La Hiedra’s odds in the second match, or Argenis’ crew in the fourth match.
Pagano probably should be getting a Latin American championship shot by beating Psycho Clown – and Psycho seems like the odd man out by winning his feud with Dr. Wagner, so maybe he’s a long term part of this feud
the Mexico 06/05 Lucha World Cup final has a start time of 4pm. That’s early for an AAA show.
There’s a nice look back at AAA 1992 posters, as part of a piece writing about the 24th Anniversary of the promotion. Dorian Roldan mentioned to +LuchaTV that AAA is planning for something big for the 25th Anniversary. That’d be a change; there’s no bigger difference between the two promotions than CMLL building it’s whole year to it’s birthday and AAA typically just mentioning their own relatively quietly. (But getting 1992 posters is cool to me.)
Edit: Kronosport says Lady Maravilla quit AAA. Her Facebook is mostly friends only, so I don’t see a message saying that but it’s probably there.
It’s unclear if there’s another taping between this show and Verano de Escandalo; it really depends on if they’ll be airing the Lucha World Cup as part of normal TV. It feels like there ought to be another one, because the Verano de Escandalo card doesn’t feel like it’s taken shape much at all, but we’re also a month away from the show in real time. Might as well take one guess at the card:
random mixed tag
random other match
Los Xinetez (c) versus Aerostar, Fenix, Drago for the AAA Trios Championship
Averno & Chessman (c) versus Faby Apache & Mary Apache for the AAA Tag Team Titles
Psycho Clown, Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagon versus Pagano, Nicho, Damian, Halloween
La Parka, Dr. Wagner, Texano Jr. versus Hernandez, Cage, Mesias
Again, it’s missing a big match; it feels more like a TV taping than a major show. Maybe something will happen yet.