Rush vs Thunder, Perro Aguayo press conference notes

photo by CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 03/27/2015 Arena México
1) Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito b Astral & Eléctrico
2) Cancerbero, Canelo Casas, Raziel b Flyer, Soberano Jr., Stigma
3) Bárbaro Cavernario, Kamaitachi, Negro Casas b Delta, Dragon Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr.
straight falls, with Kamaitachi using the ropes to pin Dragon Lee.
4) Titán b Vangellys [lightning]
Titan won in 6:54.
5) Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible b Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr.
6) Rey Escorpión, Thunder, Último Guerrero b Marco Corleone, Máximo, Rush
Rush and Thunder continue to feud. Rush went to pull off Thunder’s mask again, but Thunder stopped him and fouled him, getting away with it for the win.

Rush/Thunder is happening at some point.

Jocker took Sadico’s hair in the Guadalajara cage match.

Today’s AAA show will be a Perro Aguayo Jr. special. They’re show his matches from the 2012 Rey de Reyes, his hair match with Cibernetico, and a recent match with Myzteziz. They also will have other clips of his career, which mostly seem to be on the YouTube channel already.

El Fantasma, Dr. Orozco (Perro’s doctor) and Perros del Mal promotion representative Kahn held a press conference mostly to dispel rumors about Perro’s death – the usual things affirming the medical treatment was fine and the Perro family supports Rey Misterio and he’s not retiring. The commission showed Perro Aguayo Jr.’s license, insisting he was completely fine when they checked him out earlier this month. The doctor made special mention of Perro Aguayo Sr., saying Perro Sr. has suffered normal physical problems from a career of wrestling, but denied anything worse and said no one should talk of such things without medical reports. Kahn said they’re not authorizing any commemorative t-shirts or shows besides the next AAA TV taping on 04/01. (Rey Misterio Jr. said he’d be on that show, which came as total surprise to the local promoters. Some of these things are just communication issues.) The final statement at the press conference was heavy criticism of Hijo del Santo. Santo has been telling the press of a rumor that Perro had a neck injury, and they denied that. They also said Santo had not talked to Perro or his family since January 2011, is lying about how close he is to the family, and should stop giving statements.

WWE held a moment of silence for Perro Aguayo Jr. before the start of their International Media Day interviews on Friday. Also, Bad News Barrett professed to be a big fan of Super Porky.

TV Announcer Leonardo Riano claimed on Twitter than Rey Bucanero punched him at a private show. No other details or Bucanero’s side.

Aeroboy vs Solar is the first match for the on 04/28 ChilangaMask show, also in Coliseo Coacalco.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Jonathan Gresham vs Drastick Boy

+LuchaTV has an interviews with Impulso, Danger, and La Sombra, Rush explaining LA Park is a dream match (for LA Park) (Ingobernables are interested in humilating them), Danger talking about showing how good the indies are, Psicosis vs X-Fly vs Ovett highlights and Psicosis and Ovett fighting after their DTU match

Jose Luis Feliciano was announced as being part of a lucha libre seminar in Japan on April 18th and 19th.

SuperLuchas looks back to March 27th, 2009.

A short interview with Alas de Acero of IWRG.

A bio of Sombra de Ecuador.

Lineups

CMLL (FRI) 04/03/2015 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito
2) Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
3) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Syuri vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
4) Valiente vs Rey Escorpión [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Máximo vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
6) La Sombra, Negro Casas, Rush vs Thunder, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

They’re stretching out the build to Rush versus Thunder because there’s absolutely nothing else going on. Video preview here.

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Rey Misterio Jr. not retiring, Mexican politicians have many ideas

Rey Misterio Jr. is not retiring. He said this repeatedly last night, including as part of the recording of MLW’s WaleMania event, saying he believes this is what Perro would’ve wanted him to do. (There’s a video clip here.) Rey indicated he’s very close to signing with Lucha Underground.

A Mexican senator has proposed dissolving all the lucha libre commissions and replacing them with oversight from department of fitness and sports to standardize everything on a national basis. That would displace most of the people who are currently in charge of lucha libre commissions, set a series of rules which would be applied everywhere (which might change/end extreme wrestling), and cover areas which don’t have active commissions. It would also seem to end up with either new people unfamiliar with lucha in charge, or those displaced commissioners just being brought back under a different umbrella.

Another pair of senators want a hospital that will focus on luchadors, boxers and MMA fighters. This is an idea that’s floated around for years; here, it’s said the concept was actually approved last year, but no funds were allocated to it and they’re hoping to change that.

Fuego en el Ring talks to indy promoters HUMO (Hugo Montemayor) and Fusion Ichiban (Giovani Frias) about the struggles about putting on shows. Both tend to promote in Mexico State, outside of Distrito Federal. Montemayor says most shows lack an ambulance or medics qualified for emergency treatment. He also notes it’s hard to sit out stars who show up in non-condition, because the wrestlers may not show up until during the event, and then the fans have been expecting the match for a while. Frias notes the legal requirements for promoting a show in Merida were different than in Mexico City and the need for consistency.

The next show in Auditorio de Tijuana is tonight, with Mistico, Mr. Niebla, Oriental versus Nicho, Damian, and Halloween as the main event. Halloween was part of the Thursday press conference, saying the show must go on but his trio would abandon plans for a Familia de Tijuana reunion to instead be Perros del Mal for one night. Tony Casanova, the wrestler who was said to suffer a back injury this past week, is off the card and replaced by Huichol.

Nicho, Halloween, and Rey Misterio Sr. expressed support for Rey Misterio Jr.

Rafael el Maya complains the referees today are under trained or not at all trained.

I’m big fan of Japanese wrestling blogger enuhito, and even more so after he got a sit down interview with Dorian Roldan. Most of the interview is occupied with corrected the mistakes in reporting on Perro Aguayo Jr.’s death – facts wrong, translation issues – wanted to make it clear Misterio had nothing to do with Perro’s death. (Dorian believes it was the impact on the apron which caused most of the damage.) In the Japanese version of the post, it turns out Dorian happened to already be in Japan, because he was meeting with Japanese wrestling offices on the 25th in 26th to bring in wrestlers for the Lucha World Cup trios tournament coming up in May. No groups are named.

On Voices of Wrestling, Rob Barry writes about five of his favorite Perro Aguayo Jr. matches.

CMLL (TUE) 03/24/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) El Tapatío & Frezzer b El Chacal & Sádico
2) Magnum, Oro Jr., Starman b Disturbio, Espiritu Negro, Maléfico
3) Dark Angel, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b Dalys, La Gitana, Reyna Isis
4) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Pólvora, Rey Escorpión, Ripper
Angel de Oro & Rey Escorpion feuded, with Oro winning in the end.
5) Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero b Atlantis, Mistico, Titán
Rudos took 2/3, Mephisto getting away with a mask pull on Mistico.

CMLL’s show today is built around Thunder, so it’s still boring around here. The preview mentions his problems with Rush and Marco, but it’s mostly been Rush.

TKD has notes from visiting three different shows on his visit to Mexico last weekend.

LuchaWorld has Thursday’s KrisZs news update and the latest LuchaWorld Podcast

+LuchaTV has highlights of Latin Dragon, David Star, Keria vs Belial, Arez, Chik TormentaAeroboy vs Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero vs Black Terry, ACH vs Xtreme Tiger and Pagano vs Masada, as well as interviews with Guerrero Maya Jr., Aeroboy, Pagano, Masada, who suggests ChilangaMask wrestlers come to Texas. There’s also CaraLuchas focused interviews on the Impulso/Danger King match, some Traumas vs Ingobernables back and forth, La Mascara on Perro Aguayo Jr.’s death

Segunda Caida wraps up Sin Salida with Taichi vs Maximo.

ClaroSports has a 10 minute video feature on Hechicero.

Soberano Jr. vs Aero Boy vs Alas de Acero has been added to the 04/12 Coliseo Coacalco ChilangaMask show.

Reyna Isis talks about debuting in lucha; her family aren’t fans of this career.

SuperLuchas looks back at the March 26th show.

Periodico Enfoque interviews Zaeta Roja Jr.

Black Terry Jr. has video of an XMW dance party.

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03/28-29 Lucha Times

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Normally, this would be the first week of Rey de Reyes. (They aired the missing segunda match from DF on UTDN; the only match not to air is the one where Mesias turned, which is very strange.) AAA’s already said this show will be dedicated to Perro Aguayo Jr., which may mean the whole show on him. AAA will have more info on their website tomorrow.

CMLL Fox Sports 2 is listed as one hour, so lots of editing will need to be done if they plan on airing three matches. Maybe even with two. There’s also a small chance something strange happens and expected matches don’t air because of the Cinepolis deal.

 

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Perro Aguayo autopsy, Rey Misterio possible retirement

Perro Aguayo Jr. fractured three vertebrae and died on the way to the hospital. They tried to revive him for 90 minutes. That’s according to the autopsy report from the Baja California Attorney General’s office. They’re still investigating the death and have said they plan on talking with everyone in the match, the lucha commission members on hand, and the medics who worked on Perro. A longer (and Spanish) version of the same article specifies it was the first, second and third vertebrae fracturedThe report believes it was a combination of the two different impacts which caused the fracture and no level or speed of medical treatment would’ve changed the outcomes

Dr. Gustavo Zavelta, of the Mexican City lucha libre commission, says Perro Aguayo Jr. was examined “15 days” prior to his death and checked out fine. I’m unsure what those tests actually include, but it’s likely to have taken place on or around the March 6th taping in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera. Both Zavelta and head of the commission Fantasma backed the Tijuana’s commission’s actions after the injury. Zavelta noted Konnan moving Perro was not medically sound, but understandable under the circumstances, and theorized the referee might have simply believed Perro was selling (not using that word.) Zavelta said it was impossible to be sure exactly when the injury occurred.

A survey conducted by El Universal said 26% of Mexican people consider themselves lucha libre fans, and 98% of all Mexicans had heard about the death of Perro Aguayo Jr.

Universal also has an article of various luchadors being interviewed about medical conditions for a luchador, with those in the front offices of the promoters insisted that injured luchadors are always taken care of, and luchadors saying different. The complaint about no health insurance for luchadors is brought up, but they find an insurance company which insurances bullfighters and race car drivers who say they’er open to anyone. (It’s not cheap.) El Hijo del Santo deplores how promoters treats wrestlers and urges more active oversight by commission and luchador uniting together. (It’d be pretty powerful if he explained how things were different when he was running Todo x el Todo, but he suspiciously never makes those claims.) Tirantes sums it up: “If I start pointing at someone, I’ll just uncover a sewer, because we’re all culpable.”

Rey Bucanero told La Aficion that he’s talked to Rey Misterio Jr., and Misterio Jr. does not want to fight anymore and is leaning towards retirement. People who know Misterio have indicated the same things to me.

UPDATE: Rey Misterio Jr. has said he will not retire. More tomorrow.

As of last notice, Rey and Konnan were still supposed to be part of tonight’s WaleMania event near the site of WrestleMania. The original idea included Rey talking about his departure from WWE and future plans. I don’t know what’s going to happen, don’t think anyone can be 100% sure, but it’d be both men’s first public statements after Perro’s death (outside a few posts on Twitter.) Rey Misterio Jr. is still also billed as signing autographs at WrestleCon.

Apolo Valdes has a good column about the reaction to the death, in Mexico and the world: “everyone talks about lucha libre, but few seem to understand it.

Rey Misterio Sr. talked about his nephew Rey Misterio Jr. and the death of Perro Aguayo Jr. on TV Azteca Baja California. Marco Corleone talked about Perro Aguayo Jr. on PRI radio.

CMLL Informa started out with a tribute to Perro Aguayo Junior.  They still had the Leyenda de Plata plaque he broke, starting his rudo turn, and displayed on the show as a way of memorializing Perro.

There are rumors all shows in Tijuana have been canceled for the time being, but CMLL’s Mistico was still flying out there today for a press conference. He’s scheduled to wrestle on show Friday, in the same building where Perro died but for a different promotion.

The 04/03 AAA TV taping in Xalapa is now billed as honoring Perro Aguayo Jr. He was scheduled to be in the main event, and will be replaced by a mystery man from the US. Given Alberto is on the the tecnico side, this would make sense for another Brian Cage appearance.

On Twitter, Octagon alleged multiple people from AAA staff bus accident are still hospitalized, with some in comas and one person who lost a limb. Octagon does not come off as the most trustworthy source – it’s simply his vehicle take shots at AAA whenever possible, even if it’s not true or sensible – but there’s been very little information about the other injuries on staff and he cares about them. I hope everyone is okay or gets there.

All Elite has announced Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Rush on 04/19 in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara. That match would do 10K+ if promoted halfway decent in Arena Mexico. They’ve also announced a 05/03 show in Monterrey, with no venue attached.

Super Nova says he’s getting surgery next week, so he’s off the AAA TV tapings. This was mentioned before, but Nova agreeing to take that Spanish Fly thru a table to the floor when he’s just finally gotten a foothold in AAA seems a very poor decision. It’s not that you have to take it easy, but maybe not put yourself at great risk. (Laredo Kid doing crazy stuff while being in line for a WWE tryout also seems dumb.)

LuchaWorld has a recap of this week’s +LuchaTV.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of the IWRG vs XMW match from last week’s XMW show.

+LuchaTV has highlights of Traumas vs Mr. Maldito & Platino plus interviews with Mr. Maldito & Platino, Trauma IIDavid Starr & Latin Dragon and Keira.

Segunda Caida reviews Hijo del Fantasma, Maximo, Volador Jr. vs Ray Mendoza, Okumura, Taichi and Negro Casas vs La Fiera.

DJ Spectro looks back at Enigma de Oro vs Betmen, El Santo mask wins and  Satanico losing his.

A video promo with Skadi, Reyna Isis and Gitana aired on the REINA show, indicated they’d all be coming to Japan soon.

SuperLuchas looks back at past shows from March 25th.

Sangre Azteca says he’s going back to France soon.

La Sombra doesn’t care if you go to the CaraLucha show this Sunday, he’s going to humiliate people either way. Trauma II suggested the Ingobernables try to learn a hold besides the campana.

Texano Jr. says winning Rey de Reyes proves his loses in 2014 (especially TripleMania) were just flukes.

Los Colisenos writes about the emptiness of H2L; in past years, people would be up in arms, but CMLL’s reached the point where few even care.

A column wonders what adding Marco Corleone will do to the overall make up of the Ingobernables, since he’s not as annoying as the other three. (That’s not how they write it.)

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Lucha Underground 1×20: The Art of War

Angelico corner tope con giro

the matches

Son of Havoc b Angelico (6:39, shooting star press, good)
Alberto el Patron (c) b Texano Jr. to retain the AAA World Mega Heavyweight Championship (8:22, armscissors over the ropes, great)
Prince Puma (c) b Son of Havoc to retain the Lucha Underground Championship (12:13, 630 senton, great)

the developments

Ivelisse, in an angrier mood than usual, spent the match yelling at Havoc (and occasionally the referee.) Announcers pushed that Havoc was showing marked improvement and wondered if Ivelisse’s behavior was causing it. Son of Havoc didn’t think so, pausing to dump Ivelisse before hitting the shooting star press for the win. Ivelisse couldn’t believe it, and took out her anger with a kick to Angelico when he tried to flirt again after the match.

table explodes

The rules for the bullrope, as explained by Striker, were victory by pinfall, submission or touch all four corners. Neither man attempted to touch the corners, but they did take advantage of the lack of disqualification. Texano brought a chair and table into play, and both men used the cowbell in the center of the rope on each other. Alberto won by using his cross armbreaker while hanging backwards over the ropes, a move which would not be legal in a normal match.

In his office, Dario signed Hernandez to a deal and noted he would not be limited to a tag team in Lucha Underground. Dario also told Hernandez that Konnan convinced Dario on the merits of Hernandez. Hernandez seemed satisfied but not completely on the same page as Dario. Later, Hernandez happened on Puma and Konnan while they were warming up for the title match. Konnan greeted him warmly, bringing up their time to get as part of LAX, but Puma seemed a little wary. Hernandez watched the main event from the front row. (Striker and Vampiro were surprised to see him and not sure why he was there; it’s clear they haven’t been seeing the vignettes.) Dario presented a new Lucha Underground championship belt before the match.

crazy SSP (and great angle too)

Cage and Puma brawled and used weapons in the street fight main event. Puma impressed, but missed the 630 senton. Much like their last match, Cage powerbombed Puma into oblivion and rained punches from the mount. Konnan did not throw in the towel, but could not as Cage had knocked Konnan down prior. Cage could’ve gone for the pin, but instead beat up Puma more, and seemed to pick a fight with Hernandez. (Hernandez had not gotten involved in anyway, Cage just saw him and challenged him too.) Herandnez got on the apron, allowing Konnan to sneak in and hit Cage with the new cane as he turned around. Puma recovered, landed the 630 senton, and remained champion.

Stray Thoughts

No tribute to Perro.

I actually read the Art of War last summer. Figured I’d heard enough wrestling promos about it, might as well just read it myself. It’s not that long; it’s the background pieces and scholarly discussion about what the words actually were supposed to mean at the time that take forever to get thru. It’s all about convincing your army they have no choice but to win, and put it in the best position to win. Putting Prince Puma and Cage in a street fight didn’t figure to be the best situation for Cage to win a street fight, but maybe Konnan figured all along that he’d eventually have a shot to use that cane at a key moment. It seemed like Cage beat himself in the end; Hernandez wasn’t going to get involved until Cage prompted him.

The dynamics of the Angelico/Son of Havoc/Ivelisse triangle seemed very changed even to start. Son of Havoc was an underdog cult favorite tecnico from the start of the match, and only solidified by dumping Ivelisse and winning. Ivelisse was much more antagonistic than in past matches. Angelico was neutral, but kind had the rudo role in the match.

Puma goes a long way on the springboard 450 splash

Alberto and Texano was good and different than the other matches they’ve done in Mexico. One constant in Lucha Underground is the stipulation matches always emphasis the aspects making it different from other matches. The bull rope match had a ton of rope spots (Bruce Dickinson would be happy with the amount of cowbell) and a finish that wouldn’t happen in a normal match. Kind of the same thing in the street fight too.

Announcers pushed the finality of the matches – the two title matches were going to settle the issue. They gave the impression that Havoc and Ivelisse were done with each other too. And sure enough, next week is something slightly different…

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CMLL results, Lucha Underground notes, Mexicans losing in Japan

CMLL (TUE) 03/24/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) El Rebelde & Espanto Jr. b Metatrón & Molotov
2) La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany b Goya Kong, La Vaquerita, Skadi
3) Arkángel de la Muerte, Okumura, Virus b Hombre Bala Jr., Pegasso, Súper Halcón Jr.
4) Misterioso Jr. b The Panther [lightning]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Blue Panther Jr. was listed as replacing his brother, but The Panther ended up in the match. Panther slipped on a springboard and was beaten by Gori Specail.
5) Blue Panther, Tritón, Valiente b Boby Zavala, Hechicero, Luciferno
Valiente replaced Super Porky on Monday.
6) Bárbaro Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas b Dragon Lee, La Sombra, Stuka Jr.
Dragon Lee replaced Dragon Rojo (still injured). Casas cheated to win.

CMLL would have a better case about how great they are about taking care of their wrestlers if they weren’t knowingly advertising injured Dragon Rojo in matches all week. (Also, the commissions would have better cases about how serious they are about things if they weren’t letting it go.)

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara had a moment of applause for Perro Aguayo Jr.

Rey Bucanero said Perro Aguayo Jr.’s death was an accident, but better ring conditions and medical help is needed.

El Hijo del Santo, who got himself into a dumb controversy when he posted a photo of himself and Perro Sr. from the wake and then was offended people were critical of him for taking the photo for the purely altruistic reason of “I needed a photo for my column” (that’s actually his defense), has also been on news shows complaining about promoters (CMLL) forcing wrestlers to work thru injuries and not protecting luchadors himself. I can only assume this means Santo is never wrestling again, by his own reasoning.

Apolo Valdes writes a column about changes that should be made: referees should be trained in first aid, there should always be a doctor at ringside (no matter how many other people are injured) and there should be better regulation.

Lucha Underground

Tonight’s the 20th show, the midpoint of the first season. The matches scheduled

  • Alberto el Patron (c) vs Texano Jr. for the AAA Heavyweight Championship in a bull rope match
  • Angélico vs Son of Havoc
  • Cage vs Prince Puma © for the Lucha Underground Championship in a Boyle Heights Street Fight

They’ve posted a commercial for the show, as well as Dario making a new signing: Hernandez. Tonight’s the debut of the new Lucha Underground Championship; it’s a decided improvement.

Other News

IWRG has no Wednesday show this week, and this IWRG article says they only Sunday ones these two weeks.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Hechicero & Belial vs Okumura & Centviron vs Skyade & Fly Star vs Valiente & Fly Warrior, which he said was one of the best matches he’s seen this year.

RobViper has a music video of 11/28 & 12/05 CMLL.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

+LuchaTV has a lot of ChilangaMask highlights: the Aerial AssaultImpulso vs Jason Gory and Violento Jack vs Herodes Jr., plus interviews from Draego, Jason Gory, Impluso and Herodes and this week’s Leyendas Inmortales and this week’s +LuchaTV TV show.

Segunda Caida stumbles upon Sangre Chicana vs Satanico.

Rudy Valentino was remembered in San Luis Potosi.

The Xalapa show included a mixed trios match where a woman (Karina Duval) teamed with her son (Vengadorcito Radiactivo). Can’t think of that happening much if it at all.

SuperLuchas looks back at past March 24th shows.

Kamaitachi still wants to be the best Japanese luchador ever in Mexico.

Terra has an bio of Marcela.

Lucha Libre in Japan

03/24 Dragon Gate: Akira Towaza b Flamita [BRAVE GATE]
Flamita loses in challenging for the title he never lost.

03/25 REINA:
Narumiya b Amapola (c) [CMLL REINA INTL] – title change
Syuri (c) b Silueta [CMLL WOMEN]

With Zeuxis out hurt, that title change means CMLL’s roster has zero active champions. (Correction: Silueta is still REINA Junior Champion.) Syuri’s coming to Mexico soon to fix that. Amapola and Silueta are still in Japan thru the 04/05 REINA show (and Silueta is working an 04/04 Ice Ribbon show.)

Lineups

CMLL (TUE) 03/31/2015 Arena México
1) Aéreo & Angelito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Goya Kong, Marcela, Syuri vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany
3) Pegasso, Soberano Jr., Starman vs Boby Zavala, Okumura, Sangre Azteca
4) Titán vs Misterioso Jr. [lightning]
5) Delta, Dragon Lee, Tritón vs Kamaitachi, Puma, Tiger
6) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr. vs Hechicero, Negro Casas, Vangellys

Dragon Rojo is going to be healthy one of these days.

Semimain could be very good.

CMLL (TUE) 03/31/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Bengala & Robin vs Furia Roja & Mr. Trueno
2) Esfinge, Gallo, Omar Brunetti vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
3) The Panther vs Sagrado [lightning]
4) Blue Panther, Marco Corleone, Máximo vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Sky Team versus Hijos del Infierno.

Lightning match might mean four matches make TV.

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03/22 Lucha Underground results (episodes airing 06/10 & 06/17)

These are episodes 31 and 32.

There’s some big, slightly spoiler news: episode 39, the last of the original order, appears to be named “Ultima Lucha.” It comes off as the first season finale. It’s not clear if that means there will be a hiatus, but they are moving to a big event at the end. That end isn’t until August 5th, you’ve got this show for a lot longer.

You can see the match listings. Tomorrow’s episode is 20, so this is now about 3 months away from what you’re seeing on screen.

Someone new popped up in a dark match.

(more…)

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Perro Aguayo Jr. funeral, other notes, Alberto el Patron kickboxing?

Perro Aguayo Jr.

The funeral was yesterday. The church was overfilled, with what looks to be at least hundreds of people standing outside, just wanting to be there. (R de Rudo has a video of what the scene outside looked like.) The service was a a celebration of Perro’s life. Rey Misterio, Konnan, Latin Lover, Rayo de Jalisco were among those who stood as ceremonially guard next to the casket the entire time. There were many wrestlers in and out of masks at the service, but Konnan and Latin Lover being on opposite sides of the casket was striking. Those are two men who’ve not gotten along at times, and very much not gotten along at other times. Perro Aguayo Jr. was friends with them both. Rayo’s knew Perro Jr. since he was child. I believe I saw Terrible at the service in another picture; his biggest break was teaming with Perro Aguayo Jr. in a hair match. X-Fly’s visible in the second row with his blond hair; Perro Jr. knew him since he X-Fly was a kid hoping to get in the wrestling business and hoping to find a home. The lucha libre world can be a fractious, divisive place, but Perro had a connection with everyone and was friends with many. He reached so many very different people.

Hijo del Santo voiced a theory, one that others have brought up, that Perro Aguayo Jr. was already dealing with a back or spine injury prior to the match. The Aguayo family doctor told the press yesterday that, as far as he knows, Perro Jr. did not have any pre-existing spine or back injury. The doctor does not that luchadors often have at least two doctors. The doctor continued to absolve everyone involved of blame. A Yahoo article quotes an AAA spokesman as saying “they could’ve had 50 doctors in the arena” and it wouldn’t have helped.

Rayo de Jalisco Jr. took solace in Perro Aguayo Jr. dying doing what he loved. Rayo pushed for better protection for luchadors generally, in both insurance and medical services, but does not believe anything different could’ve been done in this case. Rayo was one of a few people noted as talking to Rey Misterio Jr. at the service; Rey (who did not wear his mask) is reported as being completely devastated. Rey’s friends surrounded as he left, to protect him from the media. The Tijuana commission has talked about wanting to talk to Rey to get his statement about what happened – they only talked to him briefly that night – but the lucha libre commission has repeatedly said they do not expect any charges to be filed.

El Universal has a video interview with Negro Casas, Blue Panther and Vaquerita about Perro’s passing. Casas is very emotional.

The next AAA TV taping is April 1st in San Luis Potosi. The local promoters have asked all their fans to wearing their Perros del Mal gear as part of a memorial.

Masked Republic will be releasing a special Perro memorial t-shirt, with the profits benefiting the family.

Boxer Jhonny Gonzalez, who been associated with AAA for a while, said he’s dedicating his fight on Saturday to Perro. There was a moment of applause for Perro in Arena Puebla.

Kcidis says goodbye to Perro Aguayo.

Related News

This is a lot of fallout, what’s next, and tangential items.

A photographer at the Tijuana show noted that all three men involved in that crazy Spanish Fly spot on the Tijuana show ended up taken to the hospital. A commentator on the photo claims Super Nova fractured his clavicle, Star Boy had an unspecified injury, and Tony Casanova had a lumbar injury. Lumbar is lower back, the type of injury you’d keep on a stretcher. Nova’s confirmed the shoulder injury. If that rest of the story is true, it matches the story the commission has been giving. (Also, if it’s true, it shows what a drastically ill considered spot it was.)

A senator will propose a bill on Thursday calling for establishing protocols for medical care in lucha libre and boxing, and establishing compensation for families when a luchador passes away or is permanently disabled in a match.

Dr. Alfonso Morales ripped the authorities for their post injury medical situation. A member of Mexican Red Cross listed all the mistakes the medical team made in treating Perro Aguayo Jr.

CMLL’s Miguel Reducino said it’s referees are instructed to stop a match immediately if there is a severe injury. Reducino says the DF commission requires a medical test to renew their license and says CMLL conducts periodic tests and random doping tests at events. Reducino also says medical insurance is impossible – no one would offer it to the luchadors – but the union does pool money together as fun to support luchadors, and CMLL itself has an relationship with two nearby hospitals in case of an injury. Reducino goes onto say CMLL has specifically banned the usage of chairs, tables and other weapons to avoid greater injury and because it doesn’t fit with their seriousness. Reducino says luchadors are examples for children and it’s not a good thing for children to see luchadors use weapons and bleed.

The licensing thing has a loophole – a license in any state is valid in all of them, and there’s been plenty talk in the past of wrestlers traveling to commissions with lax or no standards to be renewed to avoid tougher standards elsewhere. I don’t know if that’s the situation with Brazo de Plata, but any commission that’s found Super Porky OK to wrestle for most of the last ten years is conducting some strange medical tests. I know of no story of anyone being denied of a wrestling license because they failed a medical test. It has to have happened, but it’s never been talked about as happening. Same thing about the drug tests; they do come up when these sorts of stories are written but there’s never any talk about anyone being suspended (which may just be a private issue) or what is actually being tested for (which ought to be public knowledge.)

The insurance bit is confusing, since AAA talked a lot about getting it’s wrestlers insurance over a year ago.

Psicosis (II) actually inadvertently pokes a hole in the idea of the commission doing it’s job. He does say the commission will have doctors at shows, conduct testing and require a yearly medical checkup (which he feels should happen more often, but he also goes onto say there wasn’t actually an ambulance on hand at a recent show he worked in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera. That would have to be the Vamper Revolution show. If the commission isn’t mandating an ambulance at a building that size, they’re hardly ever doing it.

AAA posted the TV show from last week. I’m not sure what will end up on TV next week; they aired the tease of the Mesias turn, but the match where he actually turned in Mexico City did not air. It’s possible they may have been planning on airing two weeks from Mexico City despite having less matches than usual. It’s also possible it just becomes a Perro Aguayo tribute and his Rey de Reyes appearances are never shown.

This death has journalists digging into lucha libre who wouldn’t normally pay much attention to it. Judging form Twitter, this has resulted in an immense amount of idiotic things being said on TV channels. It’s also brought to light things which would be interesting under other circumstances. Universal has an article talking about how little luchadors are actually paid. The story says they’re usually only getting 50-75% of what the local promoter is paying for them, with CMLL or AAA keeping the rest the promoter is getting 50-70% of the booking fee, and the luchador is keeping the rest. I’m skeptical of all the numbers in this story – there’s a list of prices that places indy Rayman working small Jalisco shows at the same price as Volador Jr. & La Mascara – but the general concept mentioned is what I’ve been told in the past. Those on top still do very well; Dr. Lucha mentioned on Sunday’s Wrestling Observer Live that Perro Aguayo Jr. was actually making more money on his merchandise sales than wrestling for a number of years.

An interview with the commission in Puebla says all shows are required to have medical personal and an ambulance. Promoters should already be following their local rules, but this is obviously a moment for promoters to be sure they’re following all regulations. Other people will be checking.

Results

IWRG (SUN) 03/22/2015 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Hip Hop Man b Electro Boy, Atomic Star, Alfa, Dragón Celestial
2) Liderk, Rayan, Spector b Diva Salvaje, Estrella Divina, Miss Gaviota
3) Golden Magic, Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Veneno b El Hijo del Diablo, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Rayan
First Sagrada appearance here in nearly 3 years. Rayan worked double, replacing Eterno. Money thrown in.
4) Eterno, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Negro Navarro DQ Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 Jr., X-Fly
Eterno replaced Pirata Morgan. Wagner refused to get along with his partners, since he had feuded with Navarro the previous week. Wagner even stopped to hug X-Fly at one point. Navarro team took 2/3. Match came to an end with X-Fly, Wagner and Navarro in the ring. Wagner tossed his mask to Navarro (to cost himself the match?), but Navarro tossed it to X-Fly, and X-Fly had it in his hands when the referee turned back around. Perro Aguayo Jr. was honored after the match.
5) Hijo De Dos Caras © b Pirata Morgan [IWRG IC HEAVY]
Original plan was Super Nova defending IWRG Juniors championship against Dos (Dos had won the title shot a couple weeks previously.) Nova suffered an arm injury taking a Spanish Fly in Tijuana and could not wrestle. Instead, Hijo de Dos defended his own heavyweight championship against what was ruled to be his #1 contender – Pirata Morgan. Pirata submitted Dos in the first, but would not let go and was DQed. Pirata had Dos beat again in the second fall after a powerbomb, but the referee belatedly noticed Pirata’s feet were on the ropes. Dos wrapped Morgan in a rana for a three count, but Pirata argued he had his shoulder up and the match continued. The referee was soon knocked down and Hijo del Pirata Morgan interfered. Veneno (Dos’ second) made the save with karate chops and Dos submitted Pirata as the referee recovered. Straight falls. Fourth defense.

Super Nova’s injury messes up plans here – Dos seemed sure to beat him for the title, he wins all his other big matches – and they might actually not strip him of the title and delays things so Dos can get that win later on. It also comes at a poor time for Nova himself. He had seemed to make it into AAA as a regular, and it’s no sure thing he’ll have the same chances when he gets healthy.

CMLL (MON) 03/23/2015 Arena Puebla [El Popular, Periodico Enfoque]
1) Artillero, Policeman, Súper Comando b Arkalis, Meyer, Zaeta Roja
Zaeta Roja’s debut in a loss.
2) Dalys, La Comandante, Tiffany b La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit
3) Kamaitachi, Okumura, Puma b Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr.
4) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush b Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Thunder
Rush got away with a low blow and a mask pull on Thunder.
5) Último Guerrero DQ Mistico
Tecnico took 1/3. Ultimo Guerrero took Mistico’s mask for the DQ. He kept the mask and left.

That’s a strangely flat way to end that program.

Other News

Today’s Wrestling Observer Radio clarified the Alberto el Patron situation. Alberto is hurt, and Dave Meltzer revealed it actually came in training for a kickboxing match against Bill Goldberg for the Glory promotion. (This is a real story.) Alberto probably said he got hurt in a match in Mexico because he didn’t want to give away he was training yet. It’s unclear if the injury means the fight is off; Alberto’s claimed it wasn’t as bad as originally reported. I’ve got no idea how his matches in Australia went, but those would probably indicate his condition. There’s no reported date of when that fight would take place.

CMLL updated Sunday’s lineup. Mistico vs Casas is now the main event. Gran Guerrero replaces Barbaro Cavernario in what’s now the semimain. Niebla Roja replaces Virus in the fourth match; that seems to throw off the Virus vs Dragon Lee feud. CMLL continues to list Dragon Rojo on Sunday, and even pushes him as part of the preview for tonight’s show, so maybe there’s something they know about his injury status that they’re keeping quiet. A promotion insisting they take the best care of their luchadors probably shouldn’t be pushing someone into the ring too early.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update, this week’s Poster-Mania, and a recap of the Lucha Libre VIP show with Sombra vs Volador Jr.

SuperLuchas looks back at past March 23rd shows.

Tercera Caida added Keira vs Impulso to it’s 04/12 Coacalco show.

DJ Spectro looks back at Black Man & Blue Panther vs Sombra de Platas and Mascara Roja.

Lineups

IWRG (SUN) 03/29/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Araña de Plata vs Atomik Star, Hip Hop Man, Alas de Acero, Aeroman
2) Diva Salvaje, Estrella Divina, Miss Gaviota vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, Liderk [lumberjack strap]
3) Chicano & Danny Casas © vs Rayan & Spector [IWRG IC TAG]
Rayan & Spector previously won a #1 contenders match. Chicano & Casas’ 2nd defense.
4) Hijo de Pirata Morgan © vs Veneno [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
Pirata’s 4th defense.
5) Hijo De Dos Caras & Máscara Sagrada vs Negro Navarro & Pirata Morgan

Eh.

Guessing that’s actually not the 2010 Aeroman in the opener.

CMLL (MON) 03/30/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano, Paris, Rey Samuray vs Disturbio, Espíritu Maligno, Inquisidor
2) Dark Angel, La Vaquerita, Syuri vs La Seductora, Skadi, Tiffany
3) Stigma, Stuka Jr., Tritón vs Puma, Sagrado, Tiger
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Shocker
5) Rush, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Rey Escorpión, Thunder

Rush/Thunder feud here as well in DF. Maybe a dry run?

Syuri starts here again on Sunday. Skadi’s been moved to the ruda side – an experiment with Zeuxis out? Women of Skadi’s size are usually rudas.

DTU (MON) 04/06/2015 Auditorio Municipal, Pantepec, Puebla
1) Artikus, Lanzeloth, Rocky Lobo vs Jimmy, Kevin (DTU), Tony
2) Hormiga & Yuriko vs Chica Ye-Ye & Príncipe Halcón
3) Lady Apache, Lokillo, X-Fly vs Drastik Boy, Keira, Paranoiko
4) Hijo De Dos Caras & Súper Nova vs Black Fire & Slayer Pack and Cíclope & Miedo Extremo
5) Crazy Boy, Dr. Wagner Jr., Pesadilla vs Aero Boy, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Violento Jack

The Wagners on a DTU show is pretty surprising, but it seems to be sponsored by the town as part of their fair, so they could be footing the bill.

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some Perro Aguayo thoughts

There’s not much news left at this point.

This week’s MLW Radio didn’t include Konnan, of course, but Court Bauer mentioned he had talk to Konnan in the last couple of days. There’s been a criticism directed at Konnan for moving Perro after he was injured. Court relays that Konnan, in that moment, believed Perro had been only knocked out and was trying to revive him. Konnan wasn’t even thinking about a neck injury. “In that moment” is the key – it’s much easier to have to think things thru when you already know the outcome and can watch it on infinite loop, it’s a lot a harder when a person you care about has just suddenly fallen unconscious right in front of you. Konnan did the best he could in the moment, and nothing he could’ve done would’ve changed the outcome.

That’s the problem. Everyone’s understandable very emotional about the situation and wants to direct that emotion at something. The Rey stuff is just utter garbage and blaming Konnan is just as misguided. It’s a situation where people want to, need to, find something the doctor did wrong or the commission did wrong so all that emotion can go towards them. There are a lot of problems with lucha commissions and doctors, but, from what we know what right now, there’s no medical treatment which would’ve stood much of a chance saving Perro once he was hurt. There’s a lot of problems with extreme wrestling and criticism of wrestlers taking too many big risks. That’s just not what happened here. This was a man falling out of the ring, and falling into the ropes, two things which have been done since the start of wrestling, things that could’ve easily have happened in a safe sterile WWE match or a 40 year old ring on a dirt floor in the tiniest show in Mexico.

Perro’s death just appears to be a freak accident that could’ve happened any time, any where, and nothing about the context of the rest of the world really mattered. It’s a completely unsatisfying answer. It’d be so much better if there was just someone or something we could just get angry at, and maybe new information will come out in the next few days to give us that. This answer we have today doesn’t give us a solution so we can go on believing (pretending) this sort of thing won’t happen again. Unless you’re willing to ban lucha libre – and there are columnists asking for that today – it’s going to remain just dangerous enough that this danger exists. Hopefully it doesn’t happen again for a long time, but everyone lives with the knowledge that it might again some day.

The one missing piece is the state of Perro Aguayo’s neck prior to the match. There’s been speculation that maybe he had neck problems, but no one close to him has come out and said Perro had neck issues. It might be that no one does. Neck examinations, as part of actual medical exams to license luchadors, would be a nice forward step no matter the circumstances, but it seems unlikely to happen unless someone close to Perro specifies that as the issue.

The funeral service is happening as I write this. It looks like there’s a massive amount of people who could not even getting in. There are people covering it with more detail; Info_AlanR has pictures and video from the ceremony.

Silver King led a tribute to Perro Aguayo Jr. at a show in Satillo. Silver King talked about all those he had lost – Perro, his old tag partner Texano Sr., his father among them. Gronda XXX noted to the reporters that if everyone knew how many injuried wrestling had caused him, no one would ever want to do it.

Matt Farmer has a look back at Perro Aguayo Jr.’s career.

Cronicas and Leyendas looks back at Perro Aguayo Jr. breaking the Leyenda de Plata trophy in 2004. That was really the moment where he became the Perro del Mal character he’d be known as for the next ten years. That incident introduced the personality, that match where he utterly destroyed poor Rey Bucanero set up the wrestling style. SuperLuchas reprints it’s article naming Perro as wrestler of the year in 2004, right when that ascension was happening and just before the Perros del Mal name become official.

Other Links

Black Terry Jr. has a ton of photos from Sunday’s ChilangaMask show.

CMLL has highlights of Dos Leyendas.

Segunda Caida continues it’s Hechicero review with a Monterrey trios.

A show in Veracruz is listed as being taped for TV – in Japan. Because it’s a main event Japanese trio (Kamaitachi, Dowki, Hanaoka) and probably not because it’s actually airing.

Muneca de Plata wrestled in the main event of a mixed trios match in Puebla; she replaced Goya Kong and appears to have wrestled unmasked. A Tiffany led trio won.

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