CMLL on 2016-02-05 

Rey de Aire
Rey de Aire

Recapped: 02/05/2016

What happened:  Volador cheated to defeat Negro Casas after Casas had done the same. Volador still wants that hair match, but Casas refuses to even discuss it.

Mascara Dorada made his first appearance in Arena Mexico in a year.

Kamaitachi also returned, losing again to Dragon Lee in the semimain. No title match was teased.

What was good: Most of the card. The first couple matches didn’t quite make the cut for me, but weren’t that far off and everything else was enjoyable. There’s no MOTYC on this show but it was one of the better Arena Mexico shows from top to bottom in a while.

Where can I watch it: It’ll be up on my YouTube channel on Tuesday and the main event is up on Claro’s site

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Sexy Star gives up her title, Raijin & Fujin debut in loss, CMLL on Claro tonight


CMLL (TUE) 02/02/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Akuma & Bengala COR Demonio Rojo & Mr. Trueno
Akuma was listed a surprise tecnico, though he was there in the original poster and not a sub. Tecnicos took 2/3, the last when Trueno couldn’t return after an Akuma tope.
2) Mercurio, Pierrothito, Relampago b Cosmos, Shockercito, Stukita
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
Tecnicos took 1/3, Stuka beating Okumura. Debuts for Fujin and Raijin.
4) Rush b Kráneo
Rush beat Kraneo (and Mije), taking falls 2/3 clean.
5) Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. DQ Ephesto, Euforia, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 1/3. Rudos dominated the first fall, but Maximo snuck in a kiss on Euforia to set up the win. Euforia fouled Maximo in the third.

Maximo & Euforia are matched up again this week, so that might be a program. Really hope Rush/Kraneo turns up. Really hope Mije is still in one piece.

Mascara Dorada’s return tour comes to Arena Mexico tonight. He teams with Mistico & Volador against Cavernario, Mephisto and Negro Casas. That match should continue the Casas/Volador issues. Volador was teasing a big surprise, while Casas had Puma & Tiger helping him out last week – neither seems involved this week, but perhaps there will be something notable at the end of the show. Dragon Lee and Kamaitachi are back at in the semimain, with Maximo, Marco, Terrible and Ultimo Guerrero rounding on the trios. The rest of the card looks solid if not extraordinary. There’s no Thunder, thankfully. There’s five Fridays after this show and before Dos Leyendas, and things will probably be advancing towards the matches for that show.

This show will air on at 8:30pm CT. CMLL was previously airing their Friday shows on about a week delay. If that’s still the plan, this is the first TDN show (and then it’s a good sign it’s still airing on the internet as far as that is concerned.)

So, as one does late night on Twitter, Sexy Star relinquished the AAA Mixed Tag Team Championship. Let me try translating:

“I renounce the [Mixed Tag Championship], to me it’s worthless, I’ve had it for so many years and never have defended it, the only result is mismatched pairs will fight in an eliminator to face Pentagon and me, I’m not interested in this belt, so I will not fight anyone to defend it, I’ll gift it, end statement.”

Sexy Star later emphasized that she’s not quitting AAA. Pentagon Jr. posted a message last night along the lines of “I’ll still defend it!” and then deleted it soon after. AAA hasn’t said anything about this publicly.

The mixed tag title was supposed to be part of the two AAA TV tapings this month. The eliminator on Saturday has Fantasma & Taya vs Bengala & Fabi vs Shani & Pirata, and the winner would have faced on February 19th. The most likely outcome is Sexy Star is going to do exactly what she says, and hand over the titles to the winners – that’s about what AAA just did with the men’s tag titles.

Sexy Star’s statement doesn’t make complete sense: she seems upset they’ve never done anything with the belt but, now that they want to do something with the belt, she even more upset now and wants nothing to do with it. We don’t know that Sexy Star & Pentagon Jr. were going to lose the championships on the 19th, but that’s definitely the implication from this: Sexy was aware she was going to lose, she didn’t want to, maybe she’s even annoyed about never getting that chance to do something with the titles, and so she’ll give up the title rather take loss on screen.

If I was AAA (and assuming this isn’t some weird shoot angle), I’d be very upset with Sexy Star for airing her issues in this unprofessional manner and messing up the next two weeks of TV, to the point of wondering if this is a person you can put in any more storylines if she’s just going to blow them up. I’m not sure the actual loss was going to be that meaningful – Averno or Chessman costing Pentagon the match to build the other tag title match is the most likely AAA result and there are other ways to accomplish that – but the relationship between AAA & Sexy Star has some serious problems for this to be aired publicly.

Sexy Star is 100% correct that the AAA mixed tag belt has no value. AAA is and has done a terrible job with all their championships. They exist as something to fill out the card if they have room, but it’s nothing anyone talks about trying to win or seems concerned about when those rare title programs aren’t happening. Four of them (Mega/Heavyweight, trios, tag, mixed tag) now have had the champions giving the belts up in recent months. Taya defended her title last four months ago, which is pretty good for an AAA title. Psycho Clown won his belt in August and hasn’t ever defended it. Fantasma hasn’t defended the cruiserweight title on TV since last March, and they’ve started and stopped title feuds for it at least twice. Those three are all people AAA seems to like and wants to feature, but there’s no energy being put into the championship belts they have.

Maybe she eventually is? If Elite talked to La Jarochita about jumping from AAA, they must have talked to literally every single person in AAA. But I don’t think that’s necessarily the issue here. There’s clearly some level of turmoil going on in AAA. Konnan being removed as booker told us that (and Konnan supported Sexy Star’s decision on Twitter.) Creative changes usually led to different people being featured, and unhappiness when those changes are made. There are hints of issues beyond that going on as well, and some new level of unhappiness within AAA at on it. Sexy Star might have just been the first one act on her feelings publicly, and this seems like it may have just been the tip of an iceberg.

Elite had a show last night in Xalapa that seemed to have filled the ArenaOctagon was honored by the local government earlier in the day.

Today’s the 32nd Anniversary of El Santo’s death.

The LA Times has a nice article about Lucha Underground. There are spoilers (or at least there are if you know what to look for) and Vampiro makes an appearance as unidentified man in black. Of note, it’s said their most viewed show had 250,000 viewers. No El Rey airing has ever reached that number. Is that a El Rey + Unimas number? Is that just Unimas? (Both would suggest the Unimas viewership was lower than figured; the guess was 250-300K as an average not a peak.) Is that – like calling AAA “Asistencia Asesoria y Administracion” – just something randomly plucked from the internet? I dunno.

Magno has been released from his WWE/NXT deal. He always seemed like a long shot given his age, and there was the weirdness of him wrestling under his mask while they were announcing him under what appeared to be his real name. He rarely was used on their live events, only turning up recently after being there for months. WWE seems to have a “half Noah” policy where they only one of each variety of diversity in NXT at a time, so Sombra coming aboard probably was the beginning of the end for Magno. He’ll probably resume main eventing shows in Ciudad Juarez should be want to continue wrestling. (Although, someone else has been using the Magno name there of late.)

This is the stupidly most important story of the day to me: remember when I was posting ancient Guadalajara results, and I was completely confused by this weird match type called relevos uruguayos? It’s a 2v2 match one person being listed as a wild card, but they never explained the rules or why it’s named after Uruguay. Well, Arena Jalisco is running an honest to goodness relevos uruguayos match this weekend! They even explained the rules: whoever wins the first fall gets the wildcard on their team for the next two falls. That makes the first fall really important! I still don’t know why Uruguay but I at least have part of the mystery solved.

LuchaWorld has a detailed recap of this week’s CMLL Informa

03/12 RIOT card so far
Unmexicans vs Compadres Extremos
Alberto Dos Rios vs Psycko Kid
Tony Rodriguez vs Rico Rodriguez
Kratoz vs Kamikaze (ex-Viento Divino)
Arez vs Caifain vs Dralion – new

I’m just now listening to it, but I’ve heard Colt Cabana’s podcast with Jack Evans is really great.

Taya was interviewed by the CBC. It never occurred to me that the northern lights suplex is Canada reference, that’s cool.

Herodes Jr. says he respects Mr. Niebla & Demus, his opponents on a 02/20 show in Gimnasio Hercules, but isn’t scared of them.

Zeuxis talks about her life as a paramedic outside the ring.

Segunda Caida reviews this week’s Lucha Underground. Phil is the only person who thought the same things as I did on this week’s episode.

Rey Misterio Sr. tries to explain the deal with all of the other people who are running around with his name.

PWR has a show in San Francisco on 02/27 with Silver King and Juvi.


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lucha TV preview for weekend of February 6th


full size version

This half of AAA has Guerra de Titanes part 2, with Australian Suicide, Fireball, Jack Evans vs Daga, Parka Negra and Super Fly, probably the best match on the show.

Dragon Lee and Kamaitachi are back at it on the Friday Night ClaroSports stream. (That remains still on.)

Azteca has a Caristico vs Rush singles match.

Lucha Underground includes Kobra Moon’s debut. She is not facing a woman.

IWRG may be back to airing two episodes a week; I’ve just got the Sunday one.

That Tuesday CMLL YouTube stream looks so bad.

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Mariachis versus Insoportables, Dos Leyendas, lots of links

IWRG (WED) 02/03/2016 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Alas de Acero & Aramis b Ángel De La Muerte I & Ángel De La Muerte II
2) Dragón Fly, Fireman, Omega b Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Vampiro Metálico
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy b Avisman, Hip Hop Man, Vórtize
4) Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible b Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Hijo del Alebrije, Pantera I
Los Mariachis Locos got another win, but the Insoportables ran out to attack them post match. That led into the main event.
5) Apolo Estrada, Canis Lupus, Eterno b Argos, Emperador Azteca, Pantera I
Canis Lupus is officially part of the Insoportables now. Pantera I was a last second sub for Danny Casas and worked two matches in a row. Rudos took 1/3, the last by Apolo & Eerno cheating Argos. Los Mariachis Locos attacked them post match.

A logical feud set up in IWRG! I wonder what will get changed before they actually have the big match

CMLL held a brief press event yesterday officially announcing Salvador Lutteroth and Lizmark are those honored at Homenaje a Dos Leyendas on March 18th. CMLL’s press release writes Lizmark was under consideration for the honor in other years, and there’s no other option this year. Lizmark was honored as part of a group of past stars in 2010, which would’ve been his last time in rena Mexico.

This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentions Lucha Underground officials met with WWE officials in December “regarding talent”, but it didn’t go anywhere. LU’s Eric Van Wagenen previously mentioned WWE’s Canyon Ceman was an old friend, so I wonder if that’s how it came about. Ceman and HHH were the WWE officials.

+MasLuchaTV has launched a new YouTube, Esto Es Lucha!  It’s a PTI/Around the Horn like discussion show about a different topics. Apolo Valdez and Dhani Ledesma joining Bernado and Jose Manual (and el Monje) to talk about the best show and luchador of 2015 among other topics.

Cara Lucha, who’s been dormant since their New Year’s Day show, announced their next show as February 21, with a tease of DTU participation.

The Queretaro Hurracarrana column says Elite may be running a show in Queretaro in March. As they noted in the column, that’s where the last iteration of Elite crashed and burned after a show fell apart minutes before it was supposed to happen.

Revolution Pro Wrestling announced Ricochet for their April 16 show, which probably rules that weekend out at as a Lucha Underground taping. (Though, the LU story was the wrestlers weren’t told the tape dates yet, so maybe not 100% confirmed.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and extensive picks for the best of 2015.

RobViper has highlights of July 31, 2015 CMLL.

The Tag Rope has an interview with Pentagon Jr. about Lucha Underground.

Proyecto Suplex writes about the lessons learned from maestro matches.

Criterio Hidalgo interviews Ram el Carnero, who debuted in IWRG last year and has been wrestling since 2011. He’s still only 17.

There’s a benefit show for Pato Soria with CMLL luchadors on 02/27 in Mexico City.

Mascara Dorada talks about his time in NJPW and his interest in going to WWE in a video interview with Plantilla Deportiva. He also did a (text) interview with MiedoTiempo. Dorada says his new move is called the Dorada Driver. NJPW seemed to be calling it the Dorada Screwdriver and I’m tempted to stick with it because it’s slightly more colorful.

Espanto Jr. wants to join a faction, hopes to win En Busca de un Idolo in 2016. These are not great ideas.

El Diario de Coahuila has a profile of Monterrey luchador Sergio Romo Jr.

Dia HEARTS, the faction Flamita was most recently aligned with in Dragon Gate, lost a losing unit must disband match today.

The NFL’s Houston Texans and Oakland Raiders are expected to play a game in Estadio Azteca this year. The date has not been announced. That’ll probably bring a good amount of US tourists, which probably means a good weekend for lucha.

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03/04 AAA TV Lineup (Toluca)

03/04 Toluca

AAA TV (FRI) 03/04/2016 Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México
1) Goya Kong, Mascarita Sagrada, Niño Hamburguesa vs El Apache, Mini Psycho Clown, Taya
2) Aerostar & Drago vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Taurus
3) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
4) Pentagón Jr. vs Hijo del Fantasma, Fénix, ? [AAA Rey de Reyes, quarterfinal]
5) El Mesías vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Texano Jr. [bull terrier]

Air Date: 03/12 – probably one week with the opener being left off.

The main event and the tercera feel like Dr. Wagner is suddenly going to be elevated to the main event title match and Psycho’s going back to challenging for the trios titles. Could just be a fakeout. It’d be disappointing to see Psycho relegated, but Wagner versus Texano versus Mesias is a better draw than Texano versus Mesias.

Full Rey de Reyes blocks:
1: Dr. Wagner Jr., Blue Demon Jr., Garza Jr., Taurus (02/06)
2: Villano IV, Electroshock, Chessman, Jack Evans (02/19)
3: La Parka, Psycho Clown, Averno, Zorro (02/19)
4: Pentagon Jr., Hijo del Fantasma, Fenix, ? (03/04)

It’s possible Pentagon and Fantasma will be coming into this match having met in the mixed title match on the previous taping. The mystery man silhouette appears to be Flamita/Fireball again. The Toluca crowd is always great, and that match is a match of the year candidate on paper. Pentagon seems unlikely to advance because he’s got the tag title match. Whoever else wins this block needs to win Rey de Reyes or come very close. AAA needs new top stars and their best candidates are pretty much all in one block.

The segunda also looks very good. I’m wondering if Anarquia might be another one of those storylines that have been dropped with the the creative change, since Hijo del Pirata Morgan has been pulled out of the faction at the times to feud with Electroshock. There seemed to be two different directions for him at once, and it seems an easy guess Konnan was behind the one that had him part of a trio that was having good matches.  Daga is actually pictured on the poster, but not in the match – maybe they were short one tecnico for this one?

Next taping has to be Rey de Reyes. (Which might mean we know the card before we know who’s advanced to the final of the tournament.) Given the SLP taping on the 23rd and when AAA will need TV, Rey de Reyes is March 13th if they run on a Sunday night as usual for a big show.

Edit: RobViper reminds me Drago, Fenix and Pentagon are already booked in Atlantis on 03/13. Maybe it’s Friday the 11th? The Tampico promoters, the people who were originally going to have Guerra de Titanes, had that show scheduled on a Friday. They hinted they were getting Rey de Reyes as a makeup, and promoters usually schedule on a certain day of the week.

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Lucha Underground 2×2: The Dark and The Mysterious

the matches

best sequence of Killshot’s night

Johnny Mundo defeated Killshot (Fin de Mundo, 4:23, OK)
the Mack defeated PJ Black (Stunner counter, 6:45, OK)
Prince Puma & Pentagon Jr. [O] defeated the Disciples of Death (Siniestro de la Muerte, Barrio Negro, Trece [X]) (Puma 630 senton with Pentagon stealing the pin, 7:36, good)

the developments

The main plot followed up on the events from last week. Puma & Pentagon Jr. were paired up in two versus three handicap match. In the locker room, Pentagon thanked Puma for assist in helping him break Mil Muertes arm last week, hoped Puma would do the same with the Disciples so their arms could be broken, and then promised to do the same to Puma. Puma didn’t like this idea, and they fought to a quick indecisive finish. Puma and Pentagon Jr. did win the handicap match despite Pentagon being a poor teammate. They did get it together, and they were aided by two of the Disciples taking each other on a misaimed dive spot. Puma and Pentagon’s fight resumed after Pentagon Jr. stole the pin. Pentagon tried to break Puma’s arm, but Puma got away. Both men made it clear they want Mil Muertes, but equally have problems with each other. For his part, Mil Muertes was back on his throne this week, but his broken arm was in a sling. (There was no hint he might be giving up the belt.)

Vampiro appeared to be conflicted and confused by the Pentagon Jr. thing. He didn’t like it when Striker would ask questions about their relationship (and if Vampiro orchestrated the attack on Muertes last week – Vamp deflected that), but he also didn’t like it when Striker would say negative things about Pentagon.

forget "big man"; the Mack is agile for a man of any size
forget “big man”; the Mack is agile for a man of any size

Everyone’s gunning for Muertes. The opening segment of the night saw Johnny Mundo pick up a win over Killshot (though it took an unseen foul) and issue his own title challenge. Mundo was interrupted by Cage, who added his name to the mix of challengers. Mundo and Cage had an argument over this – and over Cage beating Mundo back in Season 1. Mundo backed off for a fight, tried to sneak attack anyway, and was knocked away. Cage came off as the less detestable of the two.

The night featured a lot of Season 2 characters being introduced. PJ Black, possibly inhabited by the spirit of a wolf, fought off luchador bikers in a vignette but didn’t have the same success with the Mack. Kobra Moon got her own debut vignette and will be on next week’s show. To close out the show, the hooded man from the end of last season (and from the very first segment of the first show) was formally revealed as Dragon Azteca Jr. His new mentor explained he was trained by Dragon Azteca as well, was off the mask but went a different path, but will pass that training onto Azteca Jr. That new mentor is Rey Mysterio Jr., making his first on screen appearance.

(Dragon Azteca Jr. seemed to change people in season one, but now is clearly Tijuana luchador Rey Horuz, the former second Hijo de Rey Misterio. That adds some metatext to this plot.)

There was also a check in on Marty the Moth and Sexy Star. They’re in a new location than the end of Ultima Lucha, with Marty in normal people (normal preppy people)’s clothes, but still obsessed with moths and Sexy Star. Sexy is still locked up. Marty did say “they” would eventually bring Sexy back to the temple, though Marty’s sister remained unseen.

Pentagon was a little amped up
Pentagon was a little amped up


The second episode seems to be the tough one. The second episode of the first season was one of the roughest of that season, and this felt like a marked step down from the first episode. That first episode set a high bar, but this one still felt off by normal measures.

The Killshot/Mundo match appeared to be heavily edited. There were abrupt jumps between spots, and Striker was pushing this as a great Killshot performance when the match was two minuted old and he’d been on offense for maybe 45 seconds on it. It only went about four minutes total and the announcers were reacting to a much longer match. Mundo had a few matches against guys who haven’t been in the big title picture during season 1 (Angelico and Aerostar are the first I can think of) and those matches felt more substantive and just plain better than this one. Killshot hasn’t really connected at all yet. It seems like there’s more plans for him – those military vignettes should air at some point – but he’s missing the match to go along with it.

another day, another springboard SSP
another day, another springboard SSP

PJ Black’s vignette was great in it’s over the top Lucha Underground style. The rival bikers taking off their helmets to reveal lucha masks was so ridiculous it was right in the usual style. (Like wise, the Kobra Moon vignette was fun – laser sounds for punches – though her character was less clear.) The match itself against the Mack was missing something. I liked it more than opener easily, but it never clicked for me and the character came off weaker after it. Vampiro being unimpressed with the Darewolf nickname and not knowing much about him only kind of works if Vampiro is impressed by Black by the end of the match. The Mack won, and Vampiro wasn’t impressed, so I dunno what we were doing here. (“Darewolf” is not great, but it’s better than “Black To The Future” – especially when you’re facing The Mack.) Black wasn’t helped by Killshot using Black’s 450 as a near fall in the last match. I understand they want surprises on this show, but Black didn’t get to do his big move (which some else did), he didn’t get any other memorable spot (Mack got that), he was billed as the ‘other’ South African whose cool nickname from the vignette was silly in the match, and he also lost. This was not a successful segment.

(Flipside argument: El Rey aired a very nice Black History Month video right before the Mack’s match, including clips of the Mack in action, and I was suddenly dreading Lucha Underground having their only two black luchadors be used as enhancement talent.)

Main event felt very WWE, with the feuding top guys beating the midcard tag team champions even though they’re still feuding. The difference here is it was even 2 on 3, though they at least set up a sensible finish where the Disciples took each other out and it was suddenly the Puma/Pentagon team that had the numbers. Still – felt like there should’ve been some talk about two guys beating the trios champions, who could’ve been trios champions had they just dragged a third person out of the crowd to stand on the apron all match. The announcers avoided that topic at all. The commentary for that match sounded very post produced, as if they were retaping it to try to get something (Vamp/Pentagon?) more in the direction they wanted. There was a lot more talk about Vamp being in the mental hospital in that match than the entire first episode too.

sweet dive out of Siniestro de la Muerte anyway

I did like some stuff on this show! Context aside, the main event match was fun and easily the best match on the show. The intro vignettes were good. So was the Pentagon/Puma bit to start the show. And ending with the Rey reveal felt like a big moment.

When you look back at it – this was not a show with a superb match and this was a not a lot happened that you needed to see. They added some new pieces to the game, but they didn’t advance most of the ones you were interested in last week. Cage/Mundo was set up for down the line. Mysterio debuted, but in a 20 second bit which is only important if you missed the hype for Mysterio debuting (and the plot there was covered better in the comic book last week.) Puma/Pentagon/Muertes is going on, but you knew that last week. The Fenix/Cuerno story and the Ivelisse/Havoc/Angelico stories took a week off. If you took a week off too, you’ll probably be OK. It’ll probably be better next week.

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I always like this escape into a headscissors

LU episode 2, boring CMLL show, Konnan talks about AAA changes, Jarochita & Argos

CMLL (TUE) 02/02/2016 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Cholo & Espanto Jr. b Metatrón & Sensei MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:54. Rudos took 2/3.
2) El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo b Hombre Bala Jr., Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:05. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Tritón MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:17. Cancerberos took 1/3.
4) Hechicero b Delta [lightning] MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:45 via conjuro.
5) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Super Porky b Felino, Ripper, Tiger MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:54. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Thunder DQ Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Niebla Roja MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:44. Revolucionarios took 1/2, then last when Thunder tossed his mask to Niebla for the DQ.

Another pointless Tuesday show. I liked Hechicero/Delta but I always like Delta Hechicero. Cuatrero & Sanson are nice additions because they’re better than the Arkangel/Nitro class of guys who’d normally be in that match. Their match wasn’t Good, but there’s a promise of them being there in a few months. Really, that’s the same thing with Fujin and Raijin, who will give CMLL some different and likely better match ups than the status quo. It’d be much better if CMLL actually booked interesting matches or put people in positions to have them, but slight turnover of the roster can help where nothing else is happening (and CMLL’s best ‘booking’ trend of the last few years has been adding new talent to the mix.)

Fujin and Raijin are supposed to be on today’s CMLL Informa at 5pm CT. It’s their only streaming appearance in the near future: they’re working only Tuesday Guadalajara shows and Sunday Elite shows so far, and almost every other show is steamed. The other guests are Lluvia, Shocker, Okumura, Kamaitachi, and Mascara Dorada.

Lucha Underground has (kind of) announced three matches for tonight’s episode, ”

  • Johnny Mundo versus Killshot
  • PJ Black (debut) versus The Mack
  • Pentagon Jr. in action

That’s the complete list of matches. Pentagon Jr.’s match will be set up during the show. PJ Black is WWE’s Justin Gabriel, originally from South Africa. There may be one more debut behind the scenes on this show; one of these characters has a new associate but they’re not seen in front of the crowd for a few more weeks.

On this week’s MLW Radio, Konnan says he’s out as booker in AAA. He’s still with the company as a road agent, and he came up with finishes for Guerra de Titanes, but the matches and storylines currently on are the work of Dorian and Joaquin Roldan. This is a fluid situation that’s changed a few times: he’s made it clear prior that the TripleMania card and the original December Guerra de Titanes card were not his, but the Heroes Inmortales show in between did include his storylines. (It did come off like a permanent change this time.) Konnan’s not a big fan of what was done instead, but he also sounds like a man who was tired of the stress of the position. Here’s a rant, started off by Konnan noting people ask him for jobs in creative all the time and Konnan explaining creative is not just putting names together in matches:

When you actually get in that position – first of all, why have so many people failed in that position, have you ever asked yourself that question? I mean, why have so people fai-because there’s so many inherent politics and filters and bullshit and shit beyond your control, plus the fact you got to keep – how many people are on your roster, you’ve got to keep twenty, thirty, forty, fifty people happy – everyone’s got to be happy.

You’ve got guys that don’t like each other, you guys that stand you up for money, you got guys that want extra money to do a job, you got guys that who want to hook up their friends, you got your boss who doesn’t like a certain guy or certain idea, you got so many variables that come in to making shit work. Then, if you use certain guys, it’s because you like them. And if you don’t use certain guys, it’s because you hate them.

According to Konnan, the Fenix/Mesias storyline and also the Pentagon/Jack one (which was supposed to lead to mask versus hair) are both dead. The Australian Suicide/Daga one is expected to continue. Konnan said there was a lot on Guerra de Titanes that didn’t make sense to him. He thinks it was silly to have Angelico & Jack vacate the tag titles when Angelico’s going to be back in a month and while they’ve had many other championships go undefended for months. He thought the trios title match was strange, with two teams who hadn’t teamed ever and one team that had teamed for three months, instead of any sort of normal team. He didn’t understand why they were going with Mesias and Texano as a feud when both have been rudos are in the same faction. (Averno & Chessman are confirmed to be out of La Sociedad though.) Konnan wasn’t harsh or loud in his criticism, but just didn’t think it made sense.

With all that said, Konnan felt Guerra de Titanes did well live, and credits it to the product being hot because he doesn’t think the specific lineup was all that good.

Konnan says Rey isn’t returning to AAA until some money issues are worked out, and remains open to a part time schedule with WWE but has no interest in a full time return similar to Alberto del Rio. Konnan uses Rey’s experience with the Five Star Wrestling tour in the UK as an example of promoters being dumb today, pointing out a lot of stuff mentioned in the Observer that they did that made Rey look bad.

Konnan was more harsh towards two people who left AAA:

Konnna says La Jarochita told the press Taya was getting paid more than other girls and it’s because she’s Konnan’s friend. Konnan says he doesn’t decide the pay at all in AAA. Jarochita complained when she started about not being used right, but Konnan says she came in super out of shape (“you came in fat”) and wore outfits that exposed it. “Now that you’re in CMLL, see if you can get by on your wrestling talents, and not trying to sleep around like you did in AAA with who you thought had power.”

Argos said Konnan stopped young guys from getting over. Konnan mentions Dinstia, Fenix, Daga, Taya off the top of his head as young people he didn’t stop. Konnan tells the classic Argos story: he and Semental had a tryout before an AAA show, and Konnan was very impressed with both. Except, once Argos was a tecnico on his own away from Argos, he was falling down all the times in matches and it turned out Semental had just been awesome in that match. (Konnan rates Semental as one of the top 5 bases in AAA.) Other wrestlers told Konnan that Argos was hard to deal with, and didn’t want to work with him because he was too focused on getting his own stuff in. (Those people would tell Konnan, not Argos, who remained oblivious.) Argos started to gain weight, so Konnan tried turning him rudo to see if that would work any better, and it did not. Argos just isn’t any good, so he didn’t get pushed – Konnan points out Elite isn’t even putting him that high and thinks he probably wouldn’t be used at all if not a favor for Myzteziz.

In a fun fact, Konnan says Perro Aguayo Sr. & Jr. used to call Texano and Silver King “big cassette and little cassette”, because they used to watch all the VHSs they could get from Japan to get ideas. It’s quite noticeable there’s been no talk about Lucha Underground TV on these podcasts; there’s even open to talk about it when Melina’s time there comes up, and both hosts kind of step around it. Maybe they’re just not interested in it this season.

In an interview from Guerra de Titanes with +LuchaTV, Sexy Star talks about being disappointed with missing the show and isn’t sure how soon she’ll be back. She does say it might be quick, and it apparently was so – she did wrestle on last weekend’s Lucha Underground tapings.

There’s Elite show in Juarez on 03/27 – or maybe 03/20, depending if you’re looking at Aereo’s comment or the poster. That’s a Sunday, so it joins the 02/21 Sunday in Monterrey where Elite is listed some place besides Arena Mexico.

03/12 RIOT card so far
Unmexicans vs Compadres Extremos
Alberto Dos Rios vs Psycko Kid
Tony Rodriguez vs Rico Rodriguez
Kratoz vs Kamikaze (ex-Viento Divino) – new

It looks like one of the Incontenibles took Arana Negra III’s mask in Arena Lopez Mateos. This was Arana Negra III’s debut match.

AAA’s uploaded their version of Guerra de Titanes part 1.

Segunda Caida reviews Virus vs Rocky Romero

Atomic Star talks about winning El Protector for the third time.

The boxing, lucha and MMA regulations are being updated in Ensenada.

Skayde Jr. talks about the show he’s promoting outside of Chicago with Atlantis & Octagon on Sunday, straight up against the Super Bowl. Good luck.


IWRG (SUN) 02/07/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón & Kaling Black vs Adrenalina & Vampiro Metálico
2) Astro, Emperador Azteca, Súper Astro Jr. vs Balak, Hip Hop Man, Novasonic
3) Diva Salvaje, Dr. Cerebro, Pantera I vs Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
5) Danny Casas, Dragón Fly, Hijo De Dos Caras, Veneno vs Atomic Star, Heddi Karaoui, Herodes Jr., Trauma I
6) Hijo del Pantera & Pantera © vs Negro Navarro & Trauma II [IWRG IC TAG]

Navarros won in straight falls this past weekend to set up that match. Semimain has the finalists from El Protector to continue the Herodes/Dos feud. Some new names listed in the early matches (and Kaling Black is making his once a year appearance?)

CMLL Elite (SUN) 02/07/2016 Arena México
1) Centvrión & Fly Warrior vs Artillero & Cholo
2) La Jarochita & Rossy Moreno vs Amapola & Dalys
3) Dinamic Black, Fuego, Metaleón vs Fujin, Heddi Karaoui, Raijin
4) Golden Magic & Tritón vs Puma & Tiger
5) Juventud Guerrera, Super Crazy, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Máscara Dorada vs Cibernético, La Máscara, Mephisto

You can tell Elite isn’t booked by CMLL’s normal crew because they actually use the Ingobernables as rudos. There are some promising matches.

Fujin & Raijin making their debut against two indie guys and teaming with the French MMA guy is so CMLL on the non-TV show.

The last match I have with Rossy Moreno in Arena Mexico was Febuary 23, 1990. There’s plenty of missing gaps in the early 90s, but we’re talking something like 25 years between matches in this arena. She’s another person who was working on the Todo x el Todo shows previously.

CMLL (TUE) 02/09/2016 Arena México
1) Flyer & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Artillero
2) La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Reyna Isis
3) Súper Halcón Jr. vs Disturbio [lightning]
4) Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., Stigma vs El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo
5) Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
6) Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

There’s no match that I think it’ll be better than OK on this show. That’s depressing.

CMLL (TUE) 02/09/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mágico & Magnum vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
3) Fuego, Titán, Tritón vs Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Dragón Lee vs Cavernario, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy vs Euforia, Kráneo, Último Guerrero

Meanwhile, Fujin & Raijin stay off the streaming shows for the moment. Their match look better than every match on this Arena Mexico, and this is the better card easily.

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Cholo Driver

CMLL Arena Mexico: 2016-02-02

Cholo Driver
Cholo Driver

Recapped: 02/02/2016

What happened: Thunder cheated to beat Mr. Niebla in the main event trios. And that’s it – unless they’re bringing that back another week, there’s no new program set up.

What was good: Hechicero/Delta lightning match was the best match on the show. The rest was forgettable.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel.


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Volador/Casas in Puebla, Joker wins in Guadalajara, Lucha World Cup

CMLL (SUN) 01/31/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Diplomático & Guerrero de la Muerte b Johnny Dinamo & Micro
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Javier Cruz Jr. & Linterna COR Demonio Rojo & Quca
Lintera replaced Capitan Cobra, Quka replaced Mr. Apolo. Quka was eliminated last, couldn’t return after a Lintera tope.
3) Cancerbero & Raziel b Esfinge & Gallo
Rudos demanded a tag title match.
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Magnum, Neutrón b Kempo Dragón, Príncipe Kisho, Ripper
Tecnicos took 2/3, Neutron beating Ripper after they had feuded.
5) Joker b Omar Brunetti [OCCIDENTE MIDDLE, final]
Joker took 2/3, the last with a piledriver variant, to win the vacant title.

Joker seems like a good choice for champion here – and if he doesn’t go to Mexico City, maybe he’ll defend the championship at some point.

CMLL (MON) 02/01/2016 Arena Puebla [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Asturiano & Black Tiger b Ares & Espíritu Maligno LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:25. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. b Magnus & Metatrón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:53. Batallon de la Muerte took 1/3.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Delta, Stigma b Boby Z, Pierroth, Sagrado LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:17. Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Ángel de Oro, Titán, Tritón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:27. Rudos took 1/3, the last when Mephisto stole Angel de Oro’s mask and pinned him.
5) Rush b Thunder LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6:45. Rush took 1/3, the last when Thunder fouled Rush.
6) Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero b Dragón Lee, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:41. Rudos took 1/3. Atlantis & La Mascara were replaced by Dragon Lee & Mascara Dorada late Monday (hours after the lineup went up.) Negro Casas sort of powerbombed Volador and put his feet on the ropes for the win. Volador demanded a one fall match with Negro Casas – which happened for a bit, including the crowd counting three after Volador nailed Casas with the running kick to the head. Volador dumped Casas to the outside to end the fight.

The Casas/Volador bit is carry over from Friday. Dorada and Dragon Lee looked good as long as the match lasted, but the ending came off a bit flat. The postmatch seemed like an attempt to salvage the bit.

Rush/Thunder felt like CMLL booked the match, then immediately regretted it. Rush did not mail it in, but this was not a high priority match.

Mephisto/Angel de Oro felt like the start of a title feud. Oro was making title motions before the match – the Hijos del Infierno are still Mexican trios champions, but it felt more like Oro might defend his.

Enuhito says he’s been told the plans for the Lucha World Cup are an expanded two day event in June. It’ll include a Women’s version of the tournament and the number of organizations participating will increase. Last year’s competition got great press for AAA, and it would make sense to do it again. The logistics of getting enough promotions involved is always going to be the challenge.

CMLL Arena Mexico has Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, and Niebla Roja versus Dragon Rojo Jr., Polvora and Thunder as the main event. That sounds terrible! The show is scheduled to stream Tuesday night at 7:30pm on CMLL’s website (thru YouTube), but it’s not a good card at all and the main event is pretty bad. Maybe the semimain will be good if people keep replacing Super Porky, since the rest of the match is Fuego, Guerrero Maya, Felino, Ripper and Tiger. The lightning match is a Hechicero singles against Delta. Those don’t look bad, but the Tuesday shows seemed to have a lesser effort level than other days of the week.

Guadalajara has a more interesting card. Mascara Dorada returns to his home arena to team with Maximo & Volador against Ephesto, Euforia and Mephisto. Rush takes on Kraneo in what is sure to be an entertaining battle. Raijin and Fujin debut, teaming with Okumura vs Esfinge, Rey Cometa and Stuka. That’s a spot higher in the card than the previous debuts been, but it might simply be because the segunda is a minis match on this show.

recent NJPW trainee debuts:
2014-01-31 Arena Mexico (2nd): Kamaitachi, Sangre Azteca, Okumura defeated Fuego, Super Halcon Jr., Triton
2012-02-05 Arena Coliseo (3rd): Misterioso, Namajague, Okumura vs Black Warrior, Sagrado, Sangre Azteca

Rey Mysterio talks about Lucha Underground, and the time Fenix didn’t meet him.

Llaves y Candados announced Rush vs Cibernetico vs Konnan Big is actually happening on 02/28. They teased this match last week.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and this week’s Poster-Mania.

RobViper has highlights of 07/28/15 CMLL.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Black Terry vs Solar, the IWRG opener, and drunk woman at the IWRG show.

Zeuxis talks about her title defenses and her match on the 02/20 show at Gimnasio Hercules.

Psycho Clown wants a match with Dr. Wagner after betraying him in the tag match. They certainly seem to build a mask match here.

This week’s Box Y Lucha includes a Mr. Niebla & Zacarias poster.


No Coliseo show on Saturday. There’s a boxing show instead.

CMLL (MON) 02/08/2016 Arena Puebla
1) París & Zaeta Roja vs Guerrero Espacial & Saurón
2) Arkalis & Meyer vs Akuma & Espanto Jr.
3) Black Tiger, Pegasso, Starman vs Fuerza Chicana, Metálico, Policeman
4) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Tritón vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas [lightning]
6) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero

Volador/Casas having a lightning match that lasts eight minutes is probably better than a three fall match last eight minutes.

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