AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-11 

new champion

Recapped: 03/13/2017

All matches taped 03/05/2017 in Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala. Full epsiode is on AAA’s channel.


Argenis [O], Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido beat Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra [X] (moonsault, 7:02, ok)

Super Fly defeated Bengala (powerbomb, 5:09, good)

Faby Apache beat Ricky Marvin © to win the AAA World Trios Championship (Chessman chair show→inside cradle, 4:32, good)

What happened:

a nice Abismo/Dinastia sequence

Faby Apache (and presumably Mary Apache & El Apache) are the new AAA Trios Champions. Faby won the titles for her team all by herself, defeating Ricky Marvin in an impromptu one on one match. Announcer Jesus Zuniga, as part of many moments on the show where he spoke for Vamprio, explained the scheduled Apaches vs OGT match was off because Apache was away with “personal issues” and Mary had been hurt in an accident. (One very short clip of Mary in ambulance was shown twice; it appeared to be something filmed from a previous angle being reused.) Averno – not Vampiro – proposed Faby put up her and her families’ career for a shot at ‘their dream’, the AAA trios championship. Faby accepted without hesitation, and won when Chessman accidentally hit Marvin with a chair. OGT seemed slightly upset with each other after the match, but not to the point of breaking up (at least yet.)

Super Fly defeated Bengala in another match announced by Announcer Jesus Zuniga as being a decision of Vampiro when Aerostar was ruled unable to compete. Super Fly earlier said he’d been looking all around for Vampiro to ask him about this match and could not find him anywhere. Everyone was certain Aerostar would still compete at Rey de Reyes, though Super Fly believed Aerostar wasn’t as much hurt as scared of him.

(AAA hyped both of these matches as if they would happen as scheduled during the show, a break from times where they’d give away the changes in the lineup screen.)

Texano Jr. visited the AAA offices in his own search to find Vampiro. He did not find him, but found a closet marked as Vampiro’s office. Inside was a note and a candle. The note explained Texano would have to defend his heavyweight title against Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner. Texano was displeased to read that, and more so when the light mysteriously blew out.

More La Llave de la Gloria footage was shown, with Villano coaching and in-ring highlights shown. Some of the eventual ‘winners’ in this round (Papillon, Douki, Hanaoka) got interview time, though the winners haven’t been announced on the show yet.

The Lucha Retro segment was on the first Relevos Mixicos de Locura match, as an innovative match part of AAA’s 25 year history

Carta Brava Jr., who talks to the son of the original who accompanied his fathers to all his matches. Calls out Argenis.

The técnicos won an atomicos opener.


moonsault looked better than the landing

Vampiro! Vampiro! VAMPIRO! Not five seconds afrer the opening mentioned, the announcers screaming about an announcement Vampiro made. Super Fly’s promo was tangentially about Aerostar ducking him, but pointedly about Super Fly not being able to find Vampiro. Bengala doing well in the match was about Vampiro putting him into that position. Vampiro was put over in the NotiAAA. Vampiro was specifically the one for knowing the Apaches weren’t there. Texano had to find Vampiro’s office and it was another Vampiro mystery, with Vampiro’s non appearance the real biggest story of the show. Vampiro!!!

This was way too much Vampiro. It would be way too much anyone. They sure seemed to set up Vampiro as the biggest and most important person on the show, which might even work in the short-term but doesn’t address any of their long term issues. There hasn’t been any show domination like this on AAA TV since Konnan and the Roldans were at their most visible, and even then it seemed to be split among them. This was all a lot of attention one one guy, including in some parts (like announcing the people who were missing the show) were it didn’t seem to be needed.

Vampiro not actually being on-screen, but being refereed to as some all-powerful Oz, doesn’t make it better. And Vampiro as a mysterious shadowy guy doesn’t work when we’re seeing him as just a normal wrestling dude in the La Llave de la Gloria segments. I’m guessing they purposefully lead the show off with that segment to get it as far away from the spooky message at the end, but those two concepts can’t really work on the same show together.

Maybe this was one just one weird taping and it’ll get better on a more normal show (or after they actually watch this show.) There are more changes on there than Vampiro. Both the Super Fly/Aerostar and Apaches/OGT feud got video packages to make it clear how things got to this point, and Super Fly got an actual in ring promo before a match. I’m sure this isn’t right, but it feels like Super Fy hasn’t done a promo since season 1 of Lucha Underground (and he seems much more confident in his role here than there.) The Apaches/OGT video package even made a note of Secta’s win last week, so it doesn’t just feel like a random outcome that was never mentioned again.

The Hijo del Tirantes deal deserves it’s own space. It’s clear this week that not only has he been told not to do rudo referee spots, everyone’s been told to treat him like he’d never done one. The announcers stay away from the obvious Faby/Tirantes issues and even Faby’s in the same spot. There was a moment in the Marvin/Apache match where the crowd that Faby got a three count. It was two, a fair two, the crowd was just a bit anxious to see her win, but any count where the fans disagree with Tirantes is usually a moment for Faby to get in Tirantes face for a reaction. She just moved right along this week. I’m really fine with no more rudo referee spots, it’s what I’ve wanted all along, but I still feel cheated there’s this years long story about Tirantes cheating Faby and the payoff is everyone agrees to never talk about it again. I’m cautious at asking for even more Vampiro, but there needs to be some in front of the camera bit where Tirantes is told to knock it off to mirror whatever’s clearly happened behind the scenes. Right now, we’re mostly expected to forget something that’s been a focus of the promotion for years.

Bengala sliding headscissors

The Super Fly/Bengala was the most effective match of the show, with Bengala looking good in a rare singles chance for him and Super Fly getting the clean win he needed. It lacked a bit in drama; Super Fly won on the first big move he tried, and Bengala never felt that close to winning. (A problem here is even I can’t remember what Bengala’s using as a finisher, it doesn’t come up much.) Super Fly seems much more comfortable as a rudo now than he even did a few years ago, and there’s reason to have hope for the mask match.

Faby/Marvin had drama, but the stakes didn’t mean anything. I don’t believe the fans really thought for a second Faby was at risk of losing her career, because she didn’t spend a second thinking about it herself. OGT freaked out about losing their trios titles for minutes, selling the idea it meant a lot to them. The crowd got into the idea of Faby defeating a man in a singles match, but the idea of winning titles for her not present family members didn’t mean anything. Remember, this match was never supposed to be a title match – it was a lumberjack match of all things – so everything about the stipulations for this match was strange in the recap and just as strange on TV. The one difference on TV is it came across like they were opening the door for the OGTs to be done soon. That’d be quick, it’d make sense to take the titles of them while they could, but I’m not sure. The match itself was alright and helped by the energy, with the short time making it feel like a midstoryline Lucha Underground match than anything AAA usually provides.

Super Fly/Bengala also felt different from what normally airs on TV, which was a nice change from the opening atomicos. That followed the same formula as usual, including the super rushed heel beatdown segment in the middle of the match. Everyone seemed motivated to work really hard, but that didn’t mean it looked all that good. Elegido was the leader in doing a lot without doing much well, but Argenis ending moonsault looked particularly poor. Big Mami seemed to get a lot more attention than Dinastia, a worrying development. Mami even got to do her comedy back bridge spot while didn’t get to do his cool one.

Lucha Underground on Netflix, Cometa keeps his title over the caveman

Cometa & Cavernario

CMLL (TUE) 03/14/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Fantasy b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Drone, Metatrón, Starman b Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Drone replaced Magnus. tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Esfinge, Fuego, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Olímpico, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Rey Cometa © b Cavernario [MEX WELTER] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cometa took falls 2/3 to win in a very good match. First defense after Cometa won the title from Cavernario last June.
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. b Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cometa & Cavernario is worth going out of your way to watch, as usual. It wasn’t as nuts as some of their matches but still pretty entertaining. Cometa winning is a nice surprise. In a better world, Cometa is defending this title against the Sagrado/Tiger/Pumas of the world, and Cavernario has a bigger title. In this world, I’m just happy to have this match.

Lucha Underground is on Netflix, if you are in the US, Canada or Latin American markets. (If you’re in places like the UK, Australia or Brazil, you’re still out of luck unless you want to run a VPN. Also, my secret shame is I’ve never subscribed to Netflix.)  It’s the first two seasons in HD, exactly as hyped on the day Lucha Underground said it’d be released. This is a good day for Lucha Underground. TV Insider has an interview with Johnny Mundo about what the show could mean for the series.

One surprise is there’s Spanish language commentary for both seasons. This bit leaked out yesterday afternoon – this article previewing the series mentioned there was second season Spanish commentary. I almost wrote something correcting it because, as well all know, Lucha Underground stopped recording sections in Spanish after they stopped airing on Unimas. Apparently, we (I) don’t know anything, because Season 2 does indeed have a second language track. It’s a mishmash: there’s voice actors dubbing over the parts of the wrestlers and for the on camera desk shots of Striker & Vampiro, and then Jose Manuel Guillen and Bernado Guzman of +Lucha taking over the actual play by play of the matches. I kind of want to see it to see how they’d call the bigger matches.

(aside 1: It was always a bit short sided not to continue recording segments in Spanish – this show probably needs to air in the native language of lucha libre if it’s going to succeed – but LU’s bank accounts are not infinite and it might have been a tradeoff to use that money on other things. Still, it seems like something that should come back in season 4.)

(aside 2: people think I do a lot of stuff. No, the +LuchaTV crew really does a lot of stuff. Jose is doing commentary for the English version of CMLL that’s airing in Canada and the Spanish version of AAA’s Lucha Underground, that’s a real rarity and would be busy enough for most people. That crew is also producing multiple video shows a week for their YouTube channel, doing a podcast, going to multiple shows and editing highlights packages, producing paid content, and probably ten other things I don’t even know about. It’s not just two guys, or two guys and one Monje, it’s a crew of people working on the project now who deserve to share in some of the credit, but the project is responsible for a tremendous amount of important lucha libre content. I don’t know how long it can last this way, someone big is going to notice what they’re doing and give them and offer just to work on their stuff someday, but +LuchaTV feels like the most irrepalacable part of the lucha libre landscape at the moment for how many different parts of it they affect.)

The Mistico & Stuka vs Sam Adonis and Ultimo Guerrero match in Orlando on 04/01 is off. This doesn’t affect the CMLL people appearing for Ring of Honor (and doesn’t have anything to do with ROH also using CMLL people.)

At the BARACAL show honoring the original Pierroth, he stated he approved of the new Pierroth using the name. This is the usual bit of a older luchador licensing his name out to someone else, which probably helps the original Pierroth given his medical issues.

Llaves y Candados announced in a video that their ColiseoMania 5 (04/09) top matches will be a main event of Garza, Rey Mysterio and Penta el Zero M against Nicho, Damian and Bestia, and a semimain of Zorro & Daga against Sammy Guevara and a international surprise. Rey Fenix was said to not be on the card this time due to other commitments.

Vampiro was interviewed by his local Thunder Bay paper about his new role with Lucha Libre FMV. He explains he was the perfect person for the position, and will still be spending time in his hometown doing community work and with his martial arts school.

Lector 24 interviews Black Terry, who calls himself a teacher and not a maestro – he helps people get better, he’s not perfect.

The latest +LuchaTV podcast has Texano, Demus and Iron Kid as guest. They’ve also posted Saturno vs Skyman from Cara Lucha, which is said to be really great.

Impact Wrestling has an article on Garza Jr. & Laredo Kid. Mostly Garza Jr., they can’t figure out anything about Laredo Kid because he’s a masked man. Their debut match airs tomorrow on Impact.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Segunda Caida reviews Hijo del Santo vs Negro Casas from 1997.

The FULL show this weekend in Cuernavaca drew 2,500.

Super Fly says Monterrey will see Aerostar’s face.

CMLL’s written a history of Homenaje a Dos Leyendas main events or at least the ones they feel like bringing up. FWIW,

Electrico, Silueta and Demus talk about their trip to Puerto Rico.


IWRG (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Shadow Boy vs Araña de Plata
2) Kanon vs Skanda
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Eterno, Hip Hop Man, Keshin Black, Vórtize [lumberjack]
4) Black Dragón vs Demonio Infernal
5) Heddi Karaoui, Relámpago, X-Fly vs Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Nigma
6) Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Killer Jr., Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Danny Casas, Hijo del Alebrije, Bobby Lee Jr., Silver King Jr., Argos, Diablo Jr., Hijo de Pirata Morgan [Rebelion de los Juniors]
winner gets a shot at the IWRG Junior de Juniors title, held by Herodes Jr.

Silver King Jr., Argos and Bobby Lee Jr. make appearances here to round out the all Junior elimination match. Fourth match is a rematch of a mask match.

CMLL (TUE) 03/21/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Cholo & Inquisidor
2) Magia Blanca, Sangre Imperial, Starman vs Nitro, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Virus [lightning]
5) Luciferno, Mephisto, Pólvora vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Once you get past the really not good first two matches, this is a pretty strong card. Maya/Virus is the eye catching match, but the maine vent has a good mix and the tercera has the Dinamitas against Blue Sr. and a couple of good stand-ins for his sons. The semimain rudo vs rudo match up only makes sense if they’re setting up the Casas family finally getting their – NAH.

CMLL (TUE) 03/21/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
***Homenaje a Dos Leyendas: Salvador Lutteroth & Ringo Mendoza***
1) Capitán Cobra & Fantástico vs Linterna & Mr. Apolo
2) Marcela, Silueta, Skadi vs Amapola, La Seductora, Tiffany
3) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Johnny Idol vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
4) Hechicero © vs Stuka Jr. [NWA LH]
5) Diamante Azul, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

Matt Taven is staying for more than just the weekend. Last week’s Caristico/Mephisto feud didn’t stay, with a sudden left turn into a Hechicero title match instead. That means the Hijos del Infienro might actually be giving up their titles on Friday before the Casas get that shot.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 03/26/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Baby Star, Dragón Negro, Magnético vs Demasiado, Pituso, Vengador Radioactivo
2) Demus 3:16, Mercurio (CMLL), Pierrothito vs Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid
3) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Totem I & Totem II
4) Puma (CMLL) & Tiger vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako
5) Black Terry & Negro Navarro © vs Hechicero & Virus [Arena Coliseo TAG]
2nd defense
6) Dragón Lee & Soberano Jr. vs Sádico & Sammy Guevara
7) Atlantis vs Último Vampiro

Full card for Chairo9 already. Atlantis vs Ultimo Vampiro is a unique match. Semimain could be outstanding. Title match should be fun too, because Negro Navarro appears to be a big Hechicero fan.