12/02 AAA TV Results (Zapopan) – Guerra de Titanes

photo by Black Terry Jr.

AAA TV (SUN) 12/02/2012 Auditorio Benito Juarez, Zapopan, Jalisco [AAA (R de Rudo), AAA Photos (Deportivo), Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring, Informador, MT (1-5), MT (6), SL491]
***Guerra de Titanes, 2012***
1) Cuervo, Fabi Apache, Mascarita Dorada, Pimpinela Escarlata b Halloween, Mari Apache, Mini Charly Manson, Yuriko
Tecnicos won because of Gran Apache interference – he tried to hit Cuervo with a chair and got Halloween instead. Halloween and Apache hugged after the match.
2) Daga b Juventud Guerrera, Fénix, Joe Lider, Psicosis, Jack Evans [AAA CRUISER, Ladder]
16’17”. Juventud Guerrera is the champ. No Teddy, no TNA wrestler, and Juvi left early after taking a blow from a Lider ladder. Daga beat Fenix for the title. Fenix appeared to be hurt after the match.
3) La Parka, Octagón, Octagon Jr. b Parka Negra, Pentagon Jr., Silver King
18’53”, Parka Negra and Pentagon Jr. were Silver King’s surprise partners, introduced by Dorian and Konnan. Octagon pinned Silver King get the pinfall.
4) Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown b Devil Rocker, Machine Rocker, Soul Rocker
13:13. Rockers took their first loss. Uro attacked Murder again after the match and the Clowns were beaten up despite the loss.
5) Texano Jr. b El Mesías [AAA HEAVY]
29:12. Mesias is champion. Fenix was scheduled to be his second, but Octagon Jr. replaced him. Silver King was Texano’s second. Both bled and there was at least one ref bump and one time Silver pulled the ref out to stop the count, but Texano Jr. won the match and the title with a sit down powerbomb cleanly.
6) Vampiro L Cibernético, Dr. Wagner Jr., LA Park, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Chessman [cage, hair]
30:29. Order of escape went LA Park (attacked by Jeff & Karen Jarrett, who also took his mask), Dr. Wagner, Cibernetico (attacked by the Bizarros – Cuervo tried to save and failed, Fabi helped later), and Perro Aguayo Jr. Chessman and Vampiro went for a long while before Chessman escaped due to help from Konnan, Dorian and a fire extinguisher. Konnan, with the winning rudos, announced they would repeat 1996 and leave with the best guys to a new promotion. Joaquin Roldan told Konnan his contract expires next year (???) and he’d be free to go then. Joaquin had the AAA guys run off La Sociedad to prove they weren’t all that much.

Air Date: 12/15 & 12/22

(Live coverage is here)

AAA has done Invasion/opposing promotions storylines since it’s first year, when the opposing promotion was UWA. It’s been near constant since, from PROLLM to Promo Azteca to LLL to whatever Konnan’s calling his group this week. Some of them have actually run their own shows. (Some of them still are – I’m not sure what ‘we should leave AAA and run our own promotion’ actually means to the Perros del Mal.) It’s unclear from the official recap – the only one that mentions Konnan’s contract running out – if the deal ends at midnight on 12/31, or just ‘sometime in the new year’.

It’s not yet clear where this is going. It does occur to me that the debut of a new off shoot promotion starring Konnan is as about as good a place for Konnan to return to the ring as any time.

Vamprio got some hair cut in the cage, some more cut backstage, and ended up with a bit left. I’m thinking that if Vampiro had just gotten his head shaved, it’d take him maybe a couple weeks to get that spiffy new hair do back. (It works for him.) Instead, he and AAA are didn’t deliver on their main event just because they could. Not the first time this has happened – Fabi Apache was the last memorable one – but AAA is caught between wanting to put it’s stars in big apuesta matches to draw fans and their wrestlers not actually wanting to pay the price for that loss.

(Also, if he has a brain tumor like he said this morning, he probably should not be worried about keeping any of his hair.)

(Also, for all our complaining, it does look like Chessman won the feud. A gift win by the sound of it, but you take what you can get when you are the Chessman. Nice of Jarrett and Chessman to get past Chessman’s problems with Abyss and be friends by the end of the show too.)

There’s a compelling case that putting a whole bunch of people in a cage match – a bit we all (AAA included) have mocked CMLL before – is not actually a good way to draw people. SuperLuchas calculated 7,000 people in attendance early in night. It does not come across that full in the photos. This website lists the capacity of the building as 13,000. It includes seats on the floor, though that’s for a concert performance and not something with a big ring in the middle. I would’ve guessed 4,000 people, but I’ve never done the work to see how close my guesses are to reality. The last major show here, Guerra de Titans 2010, was reported as 6,000 people in the WON. That show ran against Rayo de Jalisco and Universo 20000 returning to Arena Coliseo Guadalajara.

Juvi’s injury was to his shoulder, the same shoulder which had kept him out of the ring until now. Fenix’s injury is unclear, but looks like maybe shoulder and neck based on the pictures. (How No other injuries were mentioned. Texano and Mesias bled a lot in their match.

Rockers/Clowns was said to be least match of the night, while Texano/Mesias was said to be the best. Compliments to the ladder match as well. Vampiro and Chessman went 16 minutes by themselves to end the cage match, more than half the length of the match, which sounds way too much for both of them. Some of that is Chessman climbing and missing a moonsault (because he’s Chessman and he must fall off high objects.)

Dorian Roldan went out of his way to note Super Fly is NOT Pentagon Jr. – which makes sense, Super Fly let everyone down and got kicked out of La Sociedad, why would Dorian want him back? I posted a link to Facebook of Mortiz being mentioned as Parka Negra. I’m not sure that’s actually true, but it gives us something to look for when the show airs.

AAA has just 1 main TV in about the next six weeks, a 12/21 show in Acapulco. The period after Guerra de Titanes thru February is normally AAA’s slowest period of the year as far as shows and development, and they usually won’t start building Rey de Reyes until they’re a month out. There should still be Fusion tapings during this stretch – the next one might be announced this week.

02/01: Neza, Monterrey, Puebla, Tijuana


CMLL (SUN) 01/28 Arena Neza Results [The Gladiatores]
1) Chamaco Badillo b Dr. Trauma
2) Dragon Chino, Rey Mariscal b Redentor, Vampiro Metalico
3) Chac-Mol, Rayo Tapatio I b Chamaco Davila, Kid Star
4) Bam Bam, Mini Fantasy, Shockercito b Fire, Mini Violencia, Pierrothito
5) Místico, Negro Casas b Atlantis, Eclipse

indy (TUE) 01/30 Arena Coliseo Monterrey Results [rfc]
1) Marrullero Vence b Larry Miranda Jr.
2) La Pulga, Ricochet b Angel Negro, La Mancha
3) Burrito, Mini Burrito b Borriquito, Guerrero Griego
4) La Kalaka, Sky, Turbina b Enrique Vera, Red Flama, Vudu
5) Casanova, Dulce Poly, Humberto Garza Jr. b Pancho Tequila, Potro Jr., the Beast
6) Hijo de Espanto II, Konnan Big b Axxel, Mario Bezares

Mario Bezares is a ex-boxer/celebrity to fight Konnan Big this month.

CMLL (MON) 02/05 Arena Puebla Lineup [hugo999 @ box y lucha]
1) SWAT, King Jaguar vs Murcielago, Ares
2) Asturiano, Centella de Oro, the Tiger vs Espiritu Maligno, Fuerza Chicana, Siki Osama
3) Emilio Charles Jr., Okumura, Dr. X vs Mascara Purpura, El Valiente, Virus
4) Shocker, Negro Casas, Dos Caras Jr. vs Ultimo Guerrero, Alex Koslov, Atlantis
5) Texano Jr. vs Maniacop [hair]
6) Averno vs Volador Jr. [CMLL MIDDLE]

Main event is a one fall match.

BAJA STAR (SAT) 02/10 Auditorio de Tijuana Lineup [aledesp @ Satanico’s Mansion]
1) Calavera, Kimura vs Duende, Clon
2) Pancho Cachondo, Angel Negro Jr. vs Ricochet, Super Rhino
3) Star Boy, Extassis vs Pierroth Jr., Enfermero Jr.
4) Rey Misterio Sr., Hijo de Rey Misterio, Super Astro vs TJ Boy, Principe Arandu, Mortiz
5) Latin Lover, LA Park vs Hector Garza, Super Parka

01/26.2 : Box Y Lucha

There’s Box Y Lucha articles I didn’t notice before, and there’s some good stuff in them.

There’s a couple about Texano, now one year after his death. Negro Navarro, and Super Nova talk about their relationships with Texano. (This article mentions Vaquero is Texano’s nephew.) Another article briefly covers Texano’s career.

The rest of the articles are all AAA. Parka’s suspension is a headline story this week, so they’ve got an interview with La Parka Jr. and Joaquin Roldan.

Parka can’t believe he got suspended for month because of a single foul; if the Hell Brothers were treated as such, they would be banned for all time. Roldan makes the case that it’s not specifically the foul, but the attempt to break the alliance between the Hell Brothers and the rest of AAA by doing such a thing. Roldan reached back to Antonio Pena defending Cibernetico after the Sect and Foreign Legion turned on him on 07/30; he’s trying to carry out the plan of Pena by keeping everyone together until all of opposing forces are finished. (In this case, he just means the Dark Family.)

Parka can’t believe the rest of AAA is forgetting about all the times Cibernetico tried to take over the promotion, and all he’s done against the company in the past. Roldan figures La Parka will eventually make peace with Cibernetico, but Parka declared otherwise in his interview, vowing never to help Cibernetico and always to oppose him.

Park’s got valid points, but the way he’s described – an angry man who’s rage grows while discussing this subject – sure makes it sound like we’re getting a rudo La Parka Jr. when he returns.

Mr. Niebla talks in general terms about his jump to AAA for the most part. He notes he’s closed some doors with his actions (he’s in AAA because CMLL said no), and also states that he didn’t want to be a rudo, but that’s the spot AAA decided for him, so he’ll be a professional and go along with it. Maybe I’m strange, but I’d keep that to myself.

Charly Manson discusses his femur injury, from the ladder spot gone wrong in 2001. When he got hurt, he requested no one told his family – so they didn’t find out till they saw it on television. I can only guess he didn’t think it was as serious as it was (many long months of painful rehab included.) Charly’s doctor told him that he’s should thank God he’s still alive and give up lucha libre, but of course he didn’t.

The injuries till affect him. He loved to read books, but the impact on his head has left him unable to read. He’s in constant pain from his femur injury, and the platinum plate they stuck in it. That’s the big problem – the plate’s gotta come out this year, in November, and Charly thinks it’s very probable that will mark the end of his career. “There are hopes, but they are not many.” He vows to leave it all in the ring before he goes to the operating room.

If the article is an accurate in describing Charly as he gives this speech, he really needs to make this a promo on TV.