CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2019-05-14

Templario es fuerte

Recapped: 05/22/2019

Matches:

El Coyote & Grako beat Arkalis & Halcón Suriano Jr.
(
12:01 [4:20, 2:46, 4:55], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Metálico, Nitro, Sangre Azteca beat Eléctrico, Retro, Súper Astro Jr.
(
15:44 [8:06, 2:29, 5:09], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Disturbio, Kawato San, Sagrado beat Fuego, Pegasso, Stigma
(11:51 [3:30, 2:44, 5:37], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Templario in a lightning match
(7:30, bodyscissors cradle, good,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

El Audaz, Flyer, Kráneo beat Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Shocker
(
10:37 [3:57, 4:27, 2:13], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Niebla Roja
(
10:55 [2:45, 8:10], 1/2, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

this is not a view you want to have in life

Terrible snuck in a foul on Niebla Roja for the pin. The técnicos try to set up a rematch for next week but get punked out for a second time.

CMLL loses the picture for a couple of minutes starting with Metalico’s entrance. It only removes about 15 seconds of the match. Super Astro took a stretcher after Nitro’s piledriver. That happens fairly frequently with piledrivers; CMLL no longer treats anything besides the tombstone version as a DQ, but they’re all still treated as dangerous moves. In this particular case, following Silver King’s death and the lax medical attention, it might have also had to do with demonstrating CMLL’s procedures. Referee Edgar, in particular, seems much more alert to the situation and waving in help than usual.

Thoughts:

The lightning match was one of Templario’s best performance as a power style wrestler in CMLL, just dropping Guerrero Maya with strong moves after another in the closing half of the match. He still does a handspring and all, but Templario comes off as a dangerous threat in a way most of the rudos don’t. Guerrero Maya hasn’t looked this good in a singles match in a long time, mostly because he hasn’t had someone who pushed him this hard and made him go beyond the usual. I really wish they had a stronger finish or had just kept going thru the one that didn’t work to something better. The idea of Maya’s experience catching Templario was good but the execution of that particular spot was not.

Not quite as exciting as Halcón Suriano’s Friday exhibitions, but he still has some good moments. He might have won if he would just stop moonsaulting but there are worse ways to lose I suppose. Grako’s clapping on his corner charge is so obvious that I’m sure it’s supposed to be part of the spot but I’m not sure how. Grako & Coyote can sometimes do sequences while hesitating onto the next one, which causes these matches not to feel a bit rough.

Audaz has a finish!

CMLL Puebla: 2019-05-13

this is not the way Soberano intends to tornillo

Recapped: 05/22/2019

Matches:

Black Tiger & El Malayo beat Millenium & Tigre Rojo Jr.
(11:46 [5:05, 3:01, 3:40], 2/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Olímpico, Sagrado, Universo 2000 Jr. beat Drone, Fuego, Star Jr.
(13:56 [5:52, 3:51, 4:13], 2/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Niebla Roja, Rey Samuray beat Cuatrero, Sansón, Toro Bill Jr.
(11:44 [5:53, 1:59, 3:52], 2/3,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

The dumb battle royal went 2:30

Ángel de Oro & Euforia beat Guerrero Maya Jr. & Shocker in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(6:44, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cavernario & Flyer beat Negro Casas & Stigma in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(6:23, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mr. Niebla & Stuka Jr. beat Gran Guerrero & Soberano Jr. in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(4:33, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto & Volador Jr. beat Forastero & Kráneo in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(3:53, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro & Euforia beat Cavernario & Flyer in a Torneo Increible de Parejas quaterfinal
(6:18, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto & Volador Jr. beat Mr. Niebla & Stuka Jr. in a Torneo Increible de Parejas quaterfinal
(1:26, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto & Volador Jr. beat Ángel de Oro & Euforia in a Torneo Increible de Parejas semifinal
(3:44, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Silver King was honored before the battle royal.

Mephisto & Volador advanced in this tournament.

Thoughts:

Stuka tope

If you managed to skip this show so far, keep with that. Nothing terrible, nothing to see here.

Seven thoughts about the tournament matches, submitted mostly as proof I actually watched them enough to qualify for “ok (whatever)” grades

  • Shocker and Guerrero Maya went to get back in the ring at the same time. Guerrero Maya hits the ropes and come back with a clothesline before Shocker gets thru the ropes.

  • Flyer/Stigma having to follow Cavernario/Casas is quite unfair. Flyer beating Casas with a casita seems wrong.

  • Mr. Niebla doesn’t really need multiple matches.

  • There’s a 25 second moment here where Mephisto waves in Volador in for a double team, Volador gets there but keeps on walking to tell off one set of fans, turns around but goes past them again to tell off another side of fans, and then finally comes back for the double whip. It does not work out for Volador or for anyone.

  • Flyer didn’t botch anything but still stuck out as just not being on the level as the other guys in his semifinal,

  • Stuka’s boot clearing tope on Volador was the best moment of this bracket.

  • Angel de Oro is so fired up for the final that it seems like he cares about winning this, a rarity. It is the only one of the matches where Mephisto & Volador seem half awake.

Rey Samuray trying a between the ropes fosberry flop?

great match roundup, week of 2019-05-03

flips for days

shows

All 2019 round-up posts2019 MOTYC list is up now.

I thought it was likely unhealthy living and bad luck which caused me to be sick after this week. Maybe it was the lucha libre. That’s a reluctant “good” for Caristico & Volador, a very fun Poder del Norte match, and a whole lot to forget.

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Flamita, Hijo Del Vikingo, Myzteziz Jr. vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-05-05 2019-05-05
good Carístico vs Volador Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MAYO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-06 2019-05-06

Other Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Arez & Samoano vs Big Mami & Hijo del Tirantesand Faby Apache & Niño Hamburguesa  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-05-05 2019-05-05
ok Drago, Golden Magic, La Parka vs Arez, Monsther Clown, Taurus  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-05-05 2019-05-05
ok Dr. Wagner Jr., Pagano, Psycho Clown vs Chessman, Rey Escorpión, Texano Jr.  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-05-05 2019-05-05
ok Atlantis, Místico, Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MAYO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-06 2019-05-06
ok Audaz vs Misterioso Jr. in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-07 2019-05-07
ok Flyer, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-07 2019-05-07
ok Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-07 2019-05-07
ok Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Kawato San, Pólvora, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-05-10 2019-05-10
ok Kaho Kobayashi vs Amapola in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-05-10 2019-05-10
ok Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Soberano Jr. vs Hijo del Villano III, Rey Bucanero, Villano IV LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-05-10 2019-05-10
ok Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero vs Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-05-10 2019-05-10
ok Dragón Lee, Místico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-05-10 2019-05-10
below average Mamba & Máximo vs Chik Tormenta & Lady Maravilla  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-05-05 2019-05-05
below average Magia Blanca & Stigma vs Espanto Jr. & Hijo del Signo LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-05-10 2019-05-10
not rated Espíritu Maligno & King Rocker vs Ares & Guerrero Espacial LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MAYO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-06 2019-05-06
not rated Asturiano & Millenium vs El Malayo & Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MAYO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-06 2019-05-06
not rated King Jaguar, Star Jr., Tritón vs Disturbio, El Coyote, Nitro LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MAYO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-06 2019-05-06
not rated Esfinge, Kráneo, Volcano vs Hechicero, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MAYO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-06 2019-05-06
not rated Acero & Aéreo vs Mercurio & Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-07 2019-05-07
not rated Pegasso, Stigma, Súper Astro Jr. vs Cancerbero, Metálico, Raziel LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-07 2019-05-07
not rated Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Tritón vs Sagrado, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MAYO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-05-07 2019-05-07
watch later Ángel de Oro vs Mephisto Ángel de Oro vs Mephisto (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2019-05-04 2019-04-30

CMLL on Marca: 2019-05-24

Mistico watching those NJPW matches

Recapped: 05/24/2019

Matches:

Cancerbero & Raziel beat Magnus & Robin
(14:35 [5:16, 3:47, 5:32], 1/3, ok, 00:01:17)

Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego beat Kawato San, Misterioso Jr., Virus
(12:20 [5:11, 4:02, 3:07], 2/3, ok, 00:22:46)

Amapola, Dalys, Metálica beat Estrellita, Kaho Kobayashi, Princesa Sugehit
(10:17 [3:26, 2:02, 4:49], 1/3, ok, 00:44:46)

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Templario beat Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Valiente
(13:07 [4:19, 3:12, 5:36], 1/3, good, 01:03:34)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000 beat Felino, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
(10:26 [4:57, 5:29], 1/2, ok, 01:26:46)

Místico beat Cavernario
(19:21, 2 DQ/3, great, 01:49:02)

  1. Cavernario headscissors armtrap cradle (2:01)
  2. DQ Cavernario mask pull (3:05)
  3. Místico La Mistica (14:15)

What happened:

almost final Virus lightning submission win?

Gran Guerrero & Euforia (but strangely not Templario!) ran in to attack the Dinamitas in the second fall when they were triple teaming Último Guerrero. NGD were briefly unmasked. UG & Mascara went back and forth on the microphone after the fight was broken up.

Kaho & Amapola talked up their hair match after their trios match.

Thoughts: 

The main event delivered CMLL’s dream Místico match. He looked spectacular, nothing went wrong, and he was the cheered victorious hero in the end. This was the match they’ve been looking for him since the moment CMLL gave him the Místico character. It only took seven years to get here but it happened! Cavernario continued his all-world run by helping Místico look as clean as possible in between getting in his own devastating offense. I’m not sure we needed everything we got here, including the big splash at the end, but it did work to pull in a crowd that was lukewarm all night during the build-up for Juicio Final. They finally got something that was big in itself for this show, with both men making it feel big time with their performance. I think there’s another level here – Místico showed that he had enough offense from his big trios matches to have a big single matches but didn’t really go beyond the expected – but if this is as good as it gets, it’s still pretty good.

Soberano tornillo

The build to Último Guerrero versus Mascara Año 2000 is 30 seconds of standing and trading punches, which Mascara loses most of the time. I’m not really sure what that match is going to be. The match here wasn’t much but a set up for the run-in, Felino & Negro Casas existing to be taken out and vanishing during the post-match.

Nothing fancy to the fourth match, but it was a rare chance to see the non-UG Guerrero show they can work as well as a team without the big boss. The direct Euforia/Soberano match ups were kept few but Gran Guerrero & Templario did well basing for the younger person in that family. Stuka & Valiente stuck to the usual but pulled it off efficiently until they were destroyed at the end. This overall came together as a lesser version of the super flying técnico teams against the Guerreros, and that kind of just was what it was.

Kawato travels by air

The women’s match was just Amapola & Kaho feuding. It was good enough to make me believe next week’s match might be good, but not enough to make this week’s match good. It’s hard to imagine it going long and it probably would be best at a one fall match, but they did enough that maybe they can figure something out. Estrellita still has unlimited rights to do topes whenever she wants.

Virus submitted two técnicos in about thirty seconds of the first fall of the segunda, which seemed like a set up to an interesting bit of Virus domination leading into next week’s big retirement match. And then everything else wasn’t interesting and Virus ended up taking all the técnico finishes in the third fall. This was a slightly less exciting than usual segunda in the end and I’m not sure why.

The opener started with a regular Cancerbero match. They ran thru their offense to no great reaction, not that the técnicos were that interacting with the crowd that much either. Magadan yelling after the finish had more energy than this match, which was mostly executed fine but missing any spark.

Estrellita tope

2019 indie catch up, part 6 of ∞

everyone in the pool

Volador Jr. © vs Bárbaro Cavernario for the NWA World Welterweight Championship
(CMLL GDL @ 03/05, 9:27, good, thecubsfan)

I think Volador’s problem is overexposure. Here I am seeking out more Volador matches to watch. Who’s the real villain? This is a lightning match in three falls form, with two finishes that never are one and selling near doom two minutes in to the third fall. You do get most of the dives, though Volador thankfully cuts Cavernario off from the most dangerous one. It is really just one more Volador match, which might be good and I’m jaded or might be only ok.

Silver King style dive

Galactar, Rico Rodríguez, Silver Tiger vs Imposible, Súper Nova, Yoruba
(Revolucion Lucha Libre @ 03/09, 14:04, good, Estrellas del Ring)

I think a Hector Godfrey one might be longer but there are days where it is not worth the time to go thru 6 different versions of the match to see which one is complete. (Maybe I should go back to not linking to more than one video per match from him?) All these micro-promotions with their interchangeable rosters may not do a lot for me but they were working great for this crowd, who totally got into the brawling parts of the match (and post-match.) Super Nova’s fire helped with that crowd reaction. Yoruba’s tope was really good. On the other hand, Imposible did so little in this match that stood out that I was sure it was Emperador Azteca in the match until I looked at the lineup. Doing two different chop standoffs in the last minutes kind of slowed the match down too much for me besides being repetitive. Still, this was better than the random collection of people would respect.

Yoruba got a bit of him

Lilith Dark vs Ludark Shaitan
(IWRG @ 03/10, 7:40, good, Internetv Deportes)

Didn’t think much of this early; Lilith messes up an early exchange enough for Ludark to cut her off, and there’s another awkward moment shortly after. This match also made me wonder if the chop exchange spot has become the Guerrero/Malenko roll up  sequence of a new generation. This turned with some hard hitting corner dropkicks, Lilith had a nice looking suplex and Ludark totally killed her in the end. Not the strongest recommendation but still a bit worthwhile.

i was people would stop switching camera angles during moves

Aero Boy & Súper Crazy vs Black Taurus (Indie) & Dragón Bane
(Lucha Libre Real @ 03/15, 8:05, good, Estrellas del Ring)

Fast paced if obviously edited match. Aeroboy & Taurus is a matchup I haven’t seen a lot of despite them both being around the indies for the last few years. They seemed to work well together, even if a thing here or there looked off. Super Crazy did not seem particularly thrilled with young Dragon Bane when Dragon Bane wanted to do something on the ramp. Crazy really didn’t do a lot besides lock the finish in, but he really locked the finish in.

Dragon Bane can do a cool headscissors

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Alas de Oro, Alas De Plata, Diamante
(FILLM @ 03/16, 11:55, good, Estrellas del Ring)

A solid NGD trios match, not really slipping from their CMLL effort levels. The técnicos didn’t do anything special for me but their timing was good on offense. Rafael el Maya looks like he got walloped by a foot for the ref bump here. Might have been a trick of the camera angle but it still was impressive. I’ve noticed an Estrellas del Ring pattern of cutting the first fall to 20 seconds in these matches. It is not a pleasant pattern.

this started bad but ended up properly painful

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Esfinge, Titán, Tritón for the Mexican National Trios Championship
(18:16 [3:51, 3:02, 11:23], 2/3, great, thecubsfan)

A very fun trios title match that builds in stages. It’s just a normal weekday match between these two teams for a while, then they go past that to do some of the usual title match bits, and then they find a bigger higher dramatic level in the last section. It doesn’t feel like anything special at first but has the time to get there, in a way to seen with most of these Guadalajara title matches. The técnicos get the necessary one big near fall moment, but that’s not the end of it, they keep attacking. The OneAtos team wearing matching gear – that I can’t even remember if they had before – was a nice touch to make it feel like a bigger match. The finish is pretty definitive on which team is on a different level, though they had to work to get that win. This might be the best Guadalajara match all year.

maybe the smoothest he’s pulled this off

CMLL Martes: 2019-05-07

this is “Tuesday Arena Mexico Effort” in GIF form

Recapped: 05/09/2019

Matches:

Mercurio & Pierrothito beat Acero & Aéreo
(13:57 [4:40, 4:50, 4:27], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Pegasso, Stigma, Súper Astro Jr. beat Cancerbero, Metálico, Raziel
(13:53 [6:30, 2:48, 4:35], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Sagrado, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr. beat Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Tritón
(9:56 [3:22, 2:28, 4:06], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Audaz beat Misterioso Jr. in a lightning match
(4:48, mask pull/foul DQ, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Flyer, Stuka Jr., Titán beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(11:45 [4:16, 2:09, 5:20], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja beat Euforia, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible
(9:59 [2:58, 2:05, 4:56], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Acero apparently hurt his right knee on his second fall winning moonsault of the opener. He’s not in immediate obvious pain, but disappeared from sight for a couple of minutes and then is loaded on a stretcher. He hasn’t appeared again since this match.

Thoughts:

half of what is great about this is it’s not another headscissors off the apron

The main event was like the rest of the show, an easy match to get the crowd to react while also not sticking out in anyone’s mind. Carístico probably doesn’t like the Tuesday payouts as much but is one of the better técnicos at working that sort of tourist-friendly match. The Chavez brothers seemed to be trying. I enjoyed the low effort double clothesline by Terrible and Bestia.

The Titan trios match was less than I would’ve hoped. There wasn’t much flying until the third fall, with the second fall being the surprise pin done here occasionally. The técnicos did come thru with a normal comeback run in the third fall but this was just a generic Tuesday match.

Misterioso wasn’t going to be a great base for Audaz, or at least wasn’t motivated to be much of one on this night. Audaz did his solo evasion and his dives, but trying to a fancy armdrag didn’t work. Misterioso didn’t take much of the match, but he also ended it rather early. Audaz is a great highlight wrestler but still hasn’t put together a great match together. It wasn’t going to happen in this matchup but it ought to be happening in CMLL sometime soon.

this is a good idea and they’ll have another decade of being in these matches to get it down better