CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-11-02


“they’ll fix this in editing”


taped 2013-10-29 @ Arena Mexico
Leono & Robin vs Apocalipsis & Ramstein: not the exact same formula as the last two weeks but definitely not an improvement. Second fall turned into amateur hour and the rest of the match was no great shakes. A waste of time.


double stomp

Aéreo, Bam Bam, Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Warrior: This was not a good match, but it completely got derailed by the second fall unexpected disqualification and never rebounded. Third fall was disjointed; laid out in a way to be a big finish but really never building any momentum to get there. The Warrior teased feuds of the last two weeks were completely ignored.


not a good tope, not sure why I grabbed this one

Fuego, Pegasso, Sagrado vs Boby Zavala, Sangre Azteca, Virus: Another match which really never got going before a lame result. I don’t know if there was a push for more ‘surprise’ finishes to falls, but there sure has been enough of them to drain all surprise the last month or so. Rudos did a random blend of trapping a guy inside for a hot tag, then stopping trapping for no reason, then never really letting the técnicos get hot. This was not good.


return of the Volador jerk dropkick!

Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión: Another formula match, though a more entertaining formula. Very straight forward and again short (though if every match on Tuesday is short, I’m not sure I should still be calling them short.) Good while it lasted.


Mije saved – and trashed

La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Super Porky vs Morphosis, Mr. Águila, Volador Jr.: The absolutely minimum stuff possible. I think Dorada got in like 3 spots in the entire match. It was really the rudos directing the action, and directing it to be a very basic very easy match for them. Crowd was okay with it because it was Porky and Volador, but it was not really a suitable main event. Mailed in.

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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-11-02

appeared to be an armdrag


not totally sure what this was.

taped 2013-10-22 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Black Metal, Esfinge, Leo vs Espectrum, Hooligan, Nitro: In a world where CMLL was actually bringing Leo to Mexico City soon (instead of just something invented by the announcers to kill time), why would you air a match where Leo is so bad? CMLL airs hours and hours of TV, but they also have hours and hours more – why is picking the good stuff hard? Leo did look bad, but Nitro was also not in a mood to help him out at all. Everyone else was in shouting distance of alright but nothing memorable.

no one gets destroyed like Namajague

taped 2013-10-27 @ Arena Mexico
Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Namajague, Puma, Tiger: Very good, borderline great. A really fun trios match for something only two falls and note exceedingly long.) Under the circumstances, they actually built stronger to a Namajague/Maya singles match than the actual tag match, but both are good ideas. Atlantis was surprisingly good working against Tiger and Puma and Delta were good as well. There were definitely places that could’ve been cleaned up – not sure what the German suplex near the end was supposed to be – but overall a pretty fun time.


Mistico always goes straight up on backcrackers.

Mistico, Rush, Titán vs Averno, Mephisto, Volador Jr.: Good booking for next week, although Mephisto and Titan actually had more rough spots than every other combination. Still, Titan looked very strong in the end here; someone’s working hard to make him look good. The surprise sudden turnaround is done too much (because there’s three falls), but the dropkick a seated guy off the apron bit that set it up here in the second fall is also way over exposed and never looks that good. It doesn’t seem like an easier bump, and it’s not really a more impressive one at this point.

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AAA on UTDN: 2013-10-31


taped 2013-10-18 @ Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo de Puebla

Mesias uses the hit stick on Fenix

El Mesías vs Monsther Clown and Silver King and Fénix in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: This was less than expected. Monster Clown wasn’t part of it long, which seemed like a good thing, only not so much since some of the other guys weren’t in it. Silver King and Mesías were bad together, awful for guys who are thought of individually as good wrestlers. The sunset flip spot sticks out but they were on different pages the whole way thru. Fenix and Silver should’ve also been stronger to finish it but it was just okay.


Mesias does not use the jump button

Octagón vs Hijo del Fantasma, Daga, Axel in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: Got better as it went along, and the lesser people went out. Octagon has nothing to offer, but Axel was much better than his last appearance. He still isn’t good, or even OK, but not embarrassing is a nice change. Could’ve used a lot more Daga & Fantasma at the end. Fantasma probably needs to work on the non-ramp finisher thing, but a casita works perfectly fine (and feels like a Consejo winning maneuver.) What’s the point of the second referee on the outside when no interference gets stopped?


Mascara 2000 Jr. attempts to fly

La Parka vs Parka Negra II, Electroshock, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: The Mascara Ano 2000/Electroshock you never knew you wanted. Wait, you probably didn’t want this. This was really weirdly the Electroshock showcase, as he was the center of action for most of the match. La Parka was barely in, and spent most of the time in staring at Zorro (who seemed to specifically have no point in being here other than putting him back into circulation.) The big Parka/Parka Negra fight turned out to be so slight, it seemed like a possible blow off to that and maybe even the Parka Negra character. Three for three on run-ins.

Cibernético vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo and Psicosis and Chessman in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: Not really much of a match; when you cut out the interference and stalling in these matches (none of which has added anything), they’re not much more than CMLL tournament matches. Perro & Cibernético’s elimination made no sense in the context of the match – they were apparently disqualified for someone attacking them. They need to stop putting these guys in tournament matches if they have to come up with increasingly ludicrous ways to get them out of tournaments without ever jobbing. (Much less them coming out after the match to show how stupid it is for them not to able to continue – that had to be Perro doing it on his own.) Four for four on interference setting up eliminations.


Fantasma learns about Parka’s bad arm.

Fénix vs Hijo del Fantasma, La Parka, Chessman for the Copa Antonio Pena: Whoever decided these matches needed a referee outside the ring must hate the AAA referees and want them to come off all as morons. Four straight matches of the interfering people getting right past the outside referee, and one match of the outside referee watching as Fantasma gives Fenix the most illegal move in lucha libre and doing nothing about it. If your spot requires the inside the ring ref to be distracted, maybe you should also think about the guy outside? This was so dumb. This tournament didn’t work at all – it’s tough to make any tournament built around a 2013 La Parka, but this was a 2013 La Parka who really had little to offer. Parka, for whatever reason (and there are obvious ones), did not seem interested in any of his matches and it really dragged everything down. Fantasma laughable ends his debut show by getting stretcher out from an armbar or all things. This was a bad tournament.

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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-10-26

Herb Dean would’ve stopped it


taped 2013-10-18 @ Arena Mexico
Super Porky vs Rey Escorpión for the hair in super libre plus: I have this as Good and not great – though this is an incredibly weird match to rate. It did really feel like a different match than usual (like the submission match), where the spots they’d normally do in a match (the plancha!) felt wildly out of place and made the match seem more goofy than they were otherwise going for. Same thing with the three falls. There was a case for them, because they got over the holds as finishes in the first two falls and played off them in the third fall, but it seemed really silly to have Escorpion choke out Porky in under two minutes and then the match just keep going like Porky just wasn’t unconscious. When they did play it serious, there were some really serious moments. The punches near the end were really good, but all the brawling just came off as more violent. The finish was kind of in between – it made sense for Máximo to break it up but, if they’re playing fake MMA, it didn’t make sense for the referee not to stop it. Maybe I didn’t understand the rules, but I don’t think I’m the only one who thought that. This was still good more than bad, but I think it was too all of the over the place to be great. It’s one still worth checking out.

Maximo’s boxing skills. (Note Zavala deciding to stay as far out of range as possible.)

Tama Tonga & Terrible vs La Máscara & Rush: Not good, disappointing. La Mascara was not into the match at all, moving half speed and having no energy. I’m not sure if his mind was just elsewhere because of the circumstances, but it turned out to be a poor performance. He and Tama Tonga were so slow in the first fall, as if building to a much longer match than was happening, and the match only picked when Rush was involved. They really could’ve used a much hotter start to distract from the lackluster title change. It didn’t help that they turned the sound way down – probably because of some negative reactions to the bait and switch. It sounded like no one cared, and it was tough to find a reason to care in the match itself at all. I’m very much not excited for the inevitable title rematch.

best thing Mascara did all match was mostly Tonga’s work

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CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-10-26


taped 2013-10-22 @ Arena Mexico

Disturbio double knee

Metatrón & Robin vs Disturbio & Zayco: A very formula primera, with the same sequence of events at the same points as all the other openers ever. It was a little bit livelier in the third fall and it was actually one of Robin & Metatron’s better days, but it was so also so incredibly routine and uninspired.


[crowd chant here]
Aéreo, Fantasy, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito: Stukita is one of the handful of most exciting minis CMLL has, as he was again here, and it’s a shame we’re not getting to see him more often. Pequeño Warrior is one of the worst (Pequeño Universo holds the crown) and he’s seems to be getting a hair loss payoff in the next few months. He really put as little effort as possible here and built no interest in a match with him and Aereo. Everyone else was okay, but this was the rare two fall match where they actually gave the match less time and it showed.


Delta’s rolling over the ropes headscissors

Fuego, Sagrado, Starman vs Namajague, Sangre Azteca, Virus: Didn’t reach the potential of this match but still solid enough. Starman really seemed to enjoy wrestling Namajague and Virus was good, but a lot of the rest of this was the usual bits with the usual guys. An improvement over the last two matches.


great Titanics

Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpión, Vangellys: Vangellys has come a long way, but a Vangellys/Atlantis feud and Vangellys actually winning a match over Atlantis is still a pretty shocking sight. Vangellys made it seem not totally absurd. The match itself wasn’t as all out as some of the weekend Maya/Delta exploits but had some good moments.

Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Volador Jr. vs Super Porky, Titán, Valiente: Unusual for a CMLL match building to a hot tag – and then not really getting the técnicos a lot of offense after it. Rudos won pretty quick and easily in the end. Match was fine for a Tuesday main event, but a match with Valiente & Titan where the only guy who did a dive was Super Porky (so totally strange.) Aguila seems to be a Tuesday night star for the time being, but looked decently motivated here.

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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-10-26


Rudas plan needed some work.

taped 2013-10-15 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Luna Mágica, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit: Only aired because everyone was on auto pilot. Not a good match, not really interesting in anyway. Between the rest of CMLL’s Sunday show and the Guadalajara one, there surely were more interesting matches to be had, but what we had was a lackadaisical luchadora match.

Valiente crushes Ultimo Guerrero

taped 2013-10-20 @ Arena Coliseo
Valiente vs Último Guerrero: Straight up Ultimo Guerrero match, with Valiente plugged into the opponent spot. He did fine and the crowd was into him but it really wasn’t about him. There’s been a lot less singles UG matches of late and it’s been a pleasant change. UG still has no plans of changing how he does singles matches – not even the order of the moves in the third fall – so at least they’re giving chances to other people instead of doing these. This seemed a little longer and little better live, but neither version is worth going out of your way to see.


can’t believe this didn’t work!

Atlantis, La Máscara, La Sombra vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto: This seems like a real match live, but was edited down to not be much of one for the first two falls and then total autopilot for most the last two falls. I guess it was enough, but it was also very nothing special.. Crowd cheering more for Mascara than Sombra is feels so wrong but happened here. Unclear if there was a plan for a Mephisto/Mascara match the following week which got scuttled, or if this was just usual a CMLL random finish.

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CMLL En Busca de un Idolo: 2013-10-26



taped 2013-07-26 @ Arena Mexico

Vangelis is strong, mean

Fuego, Hijo del Fantasma, Negro Casas, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Misterioso Jr., Sangre Azteca, Tiger, Vangellys, Virus in a cibernetico match: Fast paced and exciting cibernetico. They still found time to bury the losers with the in between promos – “here’s why these guys will never be big stars, now watch them on TV every week!” – and Misterioso continued his character of Village Idiot, but there were also some really good sequences in between. Vangellys and Valiente were more protected in their finishes than it seemed in match summary back in the day, though it’s still odd to use this as a lead up match without them being the final two. I really wanted more Virus/Negro near the end; the 90 seconds they showed wasn’t enough for such a unique match. (I could’ve gone for more Valiente/Virus too, but we’re at least likely to get that.)

Zacarias instant haircut

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AAA on UTDN: 2013-10-24


taped 2013-10-10 @ Plaza de Toros Jorge Guiterrez, Tlahuelilpan, Hidalgo


Pain & Psicosis try to balance the head trauma

Dinastía, Faby Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba, Mini Charly Manson, Taya Valkyrie: For a twelve minute match, it did not seem like it had as much as other mixed tag matches – the women were not in a lot, and the rudo section did not last long. Minis were good with the time they had but there was not a lot here.

Angélico, Australian Suicide, Jack Evans vs Daga, Psicosis, Steve Pain: The first couple minutes were totally fun and different with Daga & Jack Evans. The rest of the match was good too, just more in the vein of the other matches they’ve been doing with this técnico trio and I kind of got stuck day dreaming what it would be like if Daga and Jack actually got to have a singles match. That’s not the point here, just to continue to introduce Suicide (which seems be going well enough.) Suicide & Psicosis seemed a bad idea pairing to start but got better near the end.


Psicosis has no fun

Cibernético, El Mesías, Electroshock, La Parka vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Ozz, Dark Scoria, Dark Spíritu: La Secta against main eventers, and tread no different than the midcard geeks they’re set up to be. Normal AAA main event técnico showcase where the rudos did very little of note on offense and spent much more time selling. The match was built to give as much glory to the técnicos as possible, which doesn’t help an already nonthreatening rudo team to get over. Not quite sure why you need a distraction on a foul when it’s not a DQ for someone to run in and hit one of the participants with a chair. (Especially when they need a distraction for interference last week.)



Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Silver King, Texano Jr. in a cage match: a lucha libre cage match. They did some random spots, people climbed up, people climbed down, it ended and I was thrilled to move on with my life. It was probably as good as a cage match with nothing on the line was going to be, but that didn’t mean it did anything for me.

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CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-10-19


taped 2013-10-15 @ Arena Mexico


Akuma’s clever “standing up” counter

Metálico & Molotov vs Akuma & Misterioso Jr.: Misterioso as a replacement made it the usual opener less than that. He wasn’t so into being here and it showed, doing what he just needed to get by. Akuma and the técnicos had no chemistry and this was a lot less than last week’s match. This is also the usual bit of a midcard wrestlers struggling to beat early match guys, because no one’s any better than any one else (which means they’re all not too good.)



Acero, Eléctrico, Fantasy vs Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito: Warrior versus Fantasy is the most random of all random feuds. Eléctrico is getting really good, especially he works with Pierrothito, but there frequently doesn’t seem to be enough motivated skilled people around to have a good trios match. This was not a good match Acero’s back and you would’ve hardly noticed he was here at all, then you would’ve noticed he looked way out of form.


heads up, Rey Cometa

Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Namajague, Shigeo Okumura, Virus: Fun match that would’ve been even better with a little more time. First two falls were more intense and inspired while the last was the usual stuff set up to a finish, but everything was done well. Tecnicos were really great as a team, which is unusual for a midcard trios group. Good build up to the tag title match (possibly by compelte concidence.)


Maximo as Mije!

Marco Corleone, Máximo, Thunder vs Euforia, Felino, Mr. Niebla: Standard trios match, with Niebla being mean towards Máximo instead of playing along with his antics. Woke up on the wrong side of the bed, I guess. Crowd reacted for the spots they were supposed, but definitely the match you’ve seen before outside of Marco’s wild punching spree near the end. (Repeating the spots is kind of the points, I understand.) Thunder is more interesting when he’s facing Euforia, for reasons which only exist in my mind.


rope flip into a kick

La Sombra, Shocker, Titán vs Morphosis, Mr. Águila, Volador Jr.: A mostly ordinary but kind of dead match that did pick up a little bit in the closing moments. I couldn’t believe Mr. Aguila wrestled the whole match in that big outfit, I could believe he was a little off because of all the time he spent off. Otherwise normal Volador/Sombra feuding with a splash of the other guys.

Sombra dropped on his head, yawn

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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-10-19


It’s tough being Triton

taped 2013-10-08 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Fuego, Sagrado, Tritón vs Felino, Puma, Tiger: High energy match with some occasional flaws. Triton and Sagrado had typical moments of things going not there way, but there was still enough here to make it worthwhile. Rudos are fun when Tiger & Puma are clicking.




Niebla Roja is a braver man than me

taped 2013-10-13 @ Arena Coliseo
Mistico, Thunder, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero: build up match for Valiente versus Ultimo Guerrero with not a lot to that feud. Valiente brought the emotion, at least. And the tope. Niebla Roja got stuck working with Thunder and barely lived to tell the tale.


Valiente crushes UG

Atlantis, La Máscara, Máximo vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Volador Jr.: Standard main event with no surprises. Just a standard Sunday main event. Volador is still way over but the crowd will still chant for Máximo to kiss him.

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