CMLL on 2016-09-23 

Volador gets the rudos, misses me

Recapped: 09/23/2016

What happened: Rush beat Matt Taven in Taven’s tour ending match. Barbaro Cavernario & Volador advanced to the Reyes del Aire final.

What was good: The Reyes del Aire was a lot of fun and Rush/Taven is good too.

This is another where I was there live and already reviewed the show in other formats. Maybe I should’ve written down my notes for this recap then, but I didn’t think about it.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my channel, via magic.

Match 1: Oro Jr. & Star Jr. vs Cancerbero & Raziel
Arena México, 09/23/2016

  1. rudos
    • Raziel reverse campana Oro Jr. (7:12)
    • Cancerbero motocicleta Star Jr. (7:36)
  2. técnicos
    • DQ Cancerbero [Star Jr. mask pull] (1:05)
  3. rudos
    • double submission (3:59)

Winner: rudos (1/3)
Match Time: 12:40
Notes: Star Jr.’s mask comes off while Cancerbero gave him an inverted crucifix powerbomb. It came off after Star Jr. hit the mat, it wasn’t pulled off. Still, on TV, it feels like one of the Cancerberos trademark fake accidental mask removals.

Review: [below average] The usual stubborn performance by Raziel & Cancerbero against the rookies, where they take most of the match and an accidental mask pull means the técnicos don’t get a comeback and offense until very late. The técnicos didn’t have a good match but weren’t getting much help. There’s a springboard spot by Oro Jr. which looked not good live and doesn’t look much better here, but it’s clear it was Cancerbero unwilling to go along with the move. At least their double teams were nice.

wait for it
which team is the high flying tecnicos?

Match 2: Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
Arena México, 09/23/2016

  1. rudos
    • Virus half crab armbar Fuego (7:49)
  2. tecnicos
    • Pegasso torito Puma (3:27)
    • Soberano guillotone moonsault Tiger (3:45)
  3. rudos
    • Puma & Tiger mouse trap Soberano (4:38)
    • Tiger backcracker & Puma middle rope double stomp Pegasso (5:42)

Winner: rudos (1/3)
Match Time: 17:16

Review: [OK] better than the last match, and really good in stretches, just with some oddness and obvious being held back by being in the second match. Puma & Tiger were rolling on the double teams, but it went a lot smoother with Pegasso than Soberano for whatever reason. Soberano’s moonsaults looked nice anyway. Virus and Fuego had good exchanges but (as a result of those double teams) really disappeared down the stretch.

Soberano guillotine moonsault
and one more moonsault

Match 3: Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Bobby Z, Ephesto, Hechicero
Arena México, 09/23/2016

  1. rudos
    • Ephesto shoulderbreaker Johnny Idol (4:27)
    • Bobby Z dropkick Titan (5:22)
  2. técnicos
    • Angel de Oro Skayde Special Bobby Z (4:16)
    • Titan El Inmortal Hechicero (4:18)
  3. técnicos
    • DQ Ephesto [foul to Johnny Idol] (7:00)

Winner: técnicos (2/3)
Match Time: 16:40

Review: [good] The (apparently) short lived Johnny Idol/Ephesto feud! It’s been a long time since the hat has been that random, but I get the feeling CMLL believes Idol is Corazon de Leon 2016 and they’re doing things to make him seem sympathetic. It’s a very slight feud, a little bit early which doesn’t stick until you look for it and the ending late, and then doesn’t seem to go anywhere after this. Surrounding it is a very exciting well worked match, with Titan and Hechicero stealing the show. Hechicero is the best assistman in the promotion, setting up his teammates all the time while also getting in his own shots. Angel de Oro looked smooth. Bobby Z needs a second offense move desperately, but at least he makes a lot of his move.

rising knee lift
leaping kick to the face
Titan top rope moonsault to the floor

A Paralympic wrestling gold medalist is honored between matches.

Match 4: Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr. vs Shocker, Terrible, Último Guerrero
Arena México, 09/23/2016

  1. técnicos
    • Shocker elbow drop Marco Corleone (3:38)
    • Ultimo Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero Stuka Jr. (3:54)
  2. rudos
    • Marco Corleone Aero Italia Ultimo Guerrero & Terrible (2:13)
  3. rudos
    • Ultimo Guerrero inside cradle Atlantis (4:28)
    • Shocker pin Stuka Jr. (4:33)

Winner: rudos (2/3)
Match Time: 10:40

Review: [ok] Normally, when I mention something seemed like a much better match in the building, I’m guessing based on the crowd reaction. This time, I was there, this was much better in the building. It’s a predictable ordinary comfortable match between these teams that came off professional but unmemorable on TV, and it was a fun time live. I can’t recommend it because you can’t travel back in time, but it’s a reminder that sometimes the simple stuff works well too. The finish, with the rudos just suddenly win off simple pins, was the exception. The rudo fans were happy about it, but it came off abrupt on any method of viewing.

Aero Italia

Match 5: Rush vs Matt Taven
Arena México, 09/23/2016

  1. Matt Taven springboard kick (2:03)
  2. Rush corner dropkick (3:38)
  3. Rush Driver (4:40)

Winner: Rush (2/3)
Match Time: 10:21

Review: [great] This did also come across as more live, and felt a lot longer/deeper in person. It’s still a pretty good TV blowoff match, with Rush selling big for Taven’s moves, Taven looking impressive, and Rush nearly killing him on the bad dive catch before actually finishing him off with the Rush Driver. Neither man was really all that strong a técnico or rudo in this match, they just had a fight with Rush being his usual arrogant self. (The pose on the announce desk for no reason was pretty great.) I’m not sure I ever thought Taven was going to win, and it could’ve used more drama before the end, but it was still plenty entertaining.

Taven springboard head kick
Rush corner dropkick
not the greatest work on the catch
Rush Driver

Match 6: Bárbaro Cavernario & Volador Jr. vs Negro CasasMisticoLa MáscaraDragón LeeMáximo SexyMephistoValienteEuforia,Máscara DoradaDragón Rojo Jr. in a CMLL’s Reyes del Aire Tournament match
Arena México, 09/23/2016
Video: , 

  1. Valiente Buster on Dragon Rojo (5:36)
  2. DQ La Mascara [unmasking Dragon Lee] (7:32)
  3. Negro Casas casita Mascara Dorada (8:39)
  4. Euforica Special on Valiente (9:01)
  5. Mephisto Devil’s Wings on Máximo (10:03)
  6. Dragon Lee double stomp (12:21)
  7. Cavernario cavernaaria Dragon Lee (12:48)
  8. La Mistica on Euforia (14:10)
  9. Barbaro Cavernario springboard pump splash Mistico (14:43)
  10. Volador pin Mephisto (24:16)

Winner: Volador & Barbaro Cavernario
Match Time: 24:16

Review: [great] an amazing high spot fest and a high rate of action, especially in the first half of this match. There were so amazing spots that I lost track of them all. Volador stood out as a superhero at the end, but it felt like all the tecnicos got in great moments and they even fit some story in there with Mascara & Dragon Lee.

This was easily better the Taven/Rush, but the three way section pinfall breakup really annoyed me. I complain about it every time, but it’s a point where the last thing you want to do is break up pins, and they build the whole thing around breaking up pins. Even without that part of the match felt overly long, and like they were stretching it out to fit in a lot of ideas. The ending came off as cold and would’ve under any circumstance, but waiting so long to get there didn’t help.

This one worked better live too. TV is really good at following the one on one action, but it felt like they were missing during the multimans early. The big four way dive spot looked very good on TV, but was absolutely incredible live (plus had another dive they missed – poor Máximo got missed twice!) and the production just couldn’t keep out. The announcers weren’t any better at getting across the idea of the final two advancing to next than they were at getting across the idea live.

Dragon Lee tope
operacion Dragon
wait, what was Dorada’s actual plan here
this looked 500% more amazing in person
Valiente Special
just the normal boost headscissors to the floor


CMLL on 2016-10-14 

this is impossible
this is impossible

Recapped: 10/14/2016

What happened: Valiente – yes, Valiente – won Block A of the Universal tournament. Mascara 2000 fouled Marco Corleone, which may be a feud for some reason.

What was good: Mascara Dorada and friends had an outstanding match.

The ‘main event’, the block final between Ultimo Guerrero and Valiente, was a good match that the crowd was fighting thru the finish.

Where can I watch it: If you’re in Japan, you can watch it on NJPW World right now. I’ll have it up sooner or later. Read More

CMLL Puebla: 2016-09-26 

Dragon Rojo step up plancha
Dragon Rojo step up plancha

Recapped: 10/10/2016

What happened: Dragon Rojo retained his title over Angel de Oro. Rush won the main event in straight falls, thanks to an inconsistent Tirantes performance.

What was good:  The only match I really watched closely was the semimain, and that’s worth checking out. Nothing else really stood out, though there were parts of the fourth match I liked

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel in full and has already aired on 52MX (though they skipped the main event) Read More

Lucha Underground 3×6: The Open Road to Revenge

Aerostar is the highlight of the show he's on for a minute
Aerostar is the highlight of the show he’s on for a minute


Famous B [O] & Dr. Wagner Jr. beat Son of Havoc & Máscarita Sagrada [X] (6:23, Wagner Driver->Famous B stethoscope press, good)

Sexy Star defeats Jack Evans (9:13, swinging neckbreaker, good)

Pentagon Dark [O] beat Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Rey Mysterio Jr. [X] (8:37, good)


Sagrada scissors
Sagrada scissors

Remember early season 1, where it looked like Chavo Guerrero Jr. was going to be the main heel of Lucha Underground? That didn’t last all that long. If it had, I’d guess it would’ve looked something a lot like tonight’s episode, where Chavo was all over the place.

The scheduled main event was Dragon Azteca Jr. versus Pentagon Junior. It didn’t happen. Chavo could not defeat Azteca in the ring (thanks a bit to Rey), so he beat him up in the locker room with a chair. Rey was a little too late to help out this time and – after Azteca was sent to the hospital – stormed into Dario’s office to demand a match with Chavo. Chavo was already in there to demand the match with Pentagon himself. They fought in Dario’s office, which Dario enjoyed, and Dario decided they should fight in the ring too, in a three way match with Pentagon. There were no alliances in the match, but trip by Chavo left Rey hanging off the top rope, and Pentagon pulled Rey off into a package piledriver for the clean win. (Pentagon wasn’t distracted by Vampiro’s existence, a difference from episode 1.) Chavo lost his mind after the finish, destroying Rey’s knee with a chair and taking out referee Marty Elias when he tried to intervene.

Chavo Guerrero Sr. – or “Chavo Classic”, as they used his WWE name – was mentioned a lot during the show. Dragon Azteca Jr. had a poster of Dragon Azteca versus Chavo Guerrero, which Chavo Jr. claimed was a resounding win for his father. Striker & Vampiro brought up Chavo Classic a lot in commentary, with Vampiro talking about Chavo KO-ing (an unnamed) Rey Mysterio Sr. in a locker room fight years ago. It was too much to be incidental, and more like they were introducing the concept of Chavo Classic before we saw him.

Jack broken

The other two matches didn’t have any vignettes, but they did have some story. Máscarita Sagrada rode in a side car to Son of Havoc’s bike on the way to the ring, and Sagrada was more effective as a tag partner than he has been on his own. Still, he was cleanly beaten by a Wagner Driver. Wagner tagged in B to allow him to get the pin, which the announcers noted was B’s first in Lucha Underground. (Son of Havoc seems to be friends with Sagrada off of Famous B & Wagner costing him his title shot at the end of Season 2, but it wasn’t brought up in commentary.)

Sexy Star survived the challenge of Jack Evans – and some other people – to remain Gift of the Gods champion. PJ Black used a kendo stick to play air guitar/distract the referee late, allowing Johnny Mundo to spear Sexy Star on the outside and send her in for a near fall. Mundo seemed to have no issue with Jack winning the title he so desperately wants, despite Vampiro predicting the opposite. Aerostar & Drago ran off Black & Mundo, and Fenix distracted the referee from a pin when Jack tried using the ropes on his usual bridge. In the confusion, Sexy got the kendo stick, fouled Jack with it, and beat him with a swinging neckbreaker.

There was another vague Rabbit Tribe teaser. They’re coming, but they’re not here yet.

Maybe they’ll be here next week. Two matches were announced during the show definitely for next week: another Dial of Doom title match against Matanza, and Mil Muertes vs Prince Puma.


fall to nowhere
fall to nowhere

I liked all three matches, though all in very separate ways and with different expectations attached. They’re all rated the same up there, but the main event was the best for me – and still a little disappointing. It never found a great rhythm, with Chavo/Rey feeling a lot different than Pentagon/Rey (and Chavo/Pentagon not really feeling all that much.) It was great to see Pentagon pick up a win, and a pretty definite won, to come back after his early loss. It’s a little weird to realize this Dragon Azteca storyline was all a setup for a Chavo/Mysterio feud, but that seems where they’re at.

The opener was heavily comedy. I enjoyed it, not just because the comedy was good, but because Dr. Wagner had to sell for a mini and that made me happy. It doesn’t take much, sometimes. That seems to be building to a Famous B/Mascarita Sagrada match, and I think the fans are actually going to be into it.

In fact, if you hit pause right now and ran a Lucha Underground PPV this Sunday, you’d be able to put together a card without thinking too hard

  • Matazna vs Dial of Doom winner
  • Puma vs Mil
  • Rey vs Chavo
  • Mundo vs Sexy Star for the Gift of the Gods
  • Texano vs Cage
  • Famous B vs Máscarita Sagrada
  • Ivelisse/Jeremiah vs Mariposa/Marty?
  • Maybe a trios title match?
  • some sort of payoff for the Cortez/Ryan & Killshot storylines

LU is definitely going places with these feuds, it’s just without the mile markers of a traditional PPV cycles. You’re kind of stuck waiting each week to see if this is the episode they’ll get there. Announcing Puma vs Mil for next week helps.

(And as seen tonight with Pentagon/Azteca, sometimes they don’t actually get there.)

neckbreaking piledriver
neckbreaking piledriver

Sometimes you just are required to have faith things will work out. I know I didn’t have any faith in Jack Evans versus Sexy Star at all, and I still wouldn’t regard it as a great match by any means. Jack’s offense had to be dumbed down or done away with – in some ways, he would’ve been able to do more than with the proverbial broomstick – but it was amazing he was able to get 9 minutes out of mostly selling for Sexy Star. She was not so great, but Jack went beyond the call of duty to make her look like an equal or better. The entire match wasn’t Jack bumping around, but it would’ve been nothing without him doing it. There’s not many people who could’ve done this as well as he did.


CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2016-09-20 


Recapped: 10/10/2016

What happened: Mephisto kept the CMLL Welterweight championship over Titan.

What was good:  You should check out the Mephisto/Titan match, and the main event was good too.

I previously talked about the rest of the card when I saw it live; everything was OK and not really worth talking about again.

Where can I watch it:  It’s on CMLL’s channel. Read More

CMLL Puebla: 2016-09-19


Recapped: 10/08/2017

What happened: Negro Casas & Shocker kept the tag team titles by taking out Mistico’s knee. Ultimo Guerrero/Rush and Angel de Oro/Dragon Rojo matches were set up.

What was good: I really liked the main event and there was a lot of solid stuff in the undercard.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel, and the Guerreros del Ring TV version has aired by the time you’re reading this (which curiously omitted the title match.) Read More

Lucha Azteca7 Elite: 2016-09-17 

the best shot of this ever
the best shot of this ever

Recapped: 10/06/2016

What happened: Rey Escorpión betrayed on Cibernético for no reason. Blue Demon debuted, got hurt, kind of turned heel but it was edited out, and then was back to being a técnico against Cibernético.

What was good:  Nothing. This was long and very boring.

Where can I watch it: It’s on the Liga Elite channel. Azteca never actually put this up on their own website, which isn’t a big loss.

Read More

CMLL on 2016-09-16 


Recapped: 10/03/2015

What happened:  CMLL honored legends by putting them in the ring. Many should’ve passed on that honor. Matt Taven debuted and cheated to beat Rush. Rey Escorpión had his last match as an Ingobernable, though no one knew it at the time.

What was good: The main event was the worst match on a major show in any promotion in the world this year.

I liked the two current day CMLL matches, and the third match was the most salvageable of the legend matches.

Where can I watch it: I watched it on RockerGamer’s channel. I think. Read More

Lucha Azteca7 Elite: 2016-09-10

Extreme Tiger cleans house
Extreme Tiger cleans house

Recapped: 10/03/2016

What happened: I finally got back to recapping after a break. Elite taped their first show outside of Arena Mexico, moving to Arena Naucalpan for what would be a two week stint. This is their first TV show without CMLL, which is not acknowledged during the show. The show generally feels like they’re just putting out a card to fill out TV time, and haven’t yet figured out how the show is going to work with most of the Liga Elite guys no longer available. (Even near a month later, it’s unclear if they’re figured it out.) This show is really not notable outside of it being the start of the post-CMLL era; nothing really happens besides Rey Escorpion showing up at the end and Octagon & Fuerza having another singles match. 

What was good: Nothing much. There were good spots, but the action never held up thru a whole match.

Where can I watch it: The YouTube Liga Elite channel. Read More

Lucha Underground 3×5: The Prince and The Monster

Matanza is sudden and strong
Matanza is sudden and strong


Ivelisse defeated Mariposa (6:16, sunset flip powerbomb, OK)

Cage defeated Texano (6:26, F5, good)

Matanza defeats Puma (12:57, Wrath of the Gods, great)


post match was more fun than the match
post match was more fun than the match

The Dial of the Doom was a big part of the show for the third time this season, though a little differently than before. Dario spun the wheel at the start of the show, and landed on Puma. He declared that would be the main event, not the immediate match the last two occasions. It was a main event quality match, both entertaining and Puma coming as close to a win as anyone besides Pentagon Dark. Puma landed the 630 in the corner, but was immediately speared by Mil Muertes. Dario ordered the referee to not call the DQ. Striker drew attention to how Matanza was slow to get up and might have not kicked out had their been a cover (and ignored how close he was to the ropes.) Matanza and Mil, meeting for the first time on this show since their Grave Consequences match, had a brief glare before Matanza finished off Puma himself. Vampiro continues to push the idea that Puma needs to get in touch with his dark side (not in those words) to reclaim his spot, but attacking Muertes to do so might have cost him the title here.

We’ll have to wait until next time to see who gets Puma’s spot on the wheel. Ivelisse got the Mack’s spot, but her name obviously didn’t come up. Instead, she had an ordinary match with Mariposa. Ivelisse won despite Marty interfering, and suffered an attack from the siblings after the match. Later, as Ivelisse was recovering in the locker room, her new boyfriend caught up with her – he missed her match, tried to cover by saying he figured she would be in main event, and threatened to break the face of the Martinez’s for attacking her. His name is Jeremiah (the debuting Sami Callihan) and he seems like a wonderful total scumbag. Ivelisse wanted him to stay out of it, to keep her Lucha Underground life separate from her real life, but I don’t think any of this is going to work out well for her.

also couldn't think of a lot to GIF in this one
also couldn’t think of a lot to GIF in this one

Cage beat Texano to go up 2-0 in their best of 5. It was more of a brawl, but Cage is dominant in the standings. He’s one win away from an opportunity. I guess Mundo is also one win away from an opportunity, but he can’t seem to get that right win and is upset about having to do it in the first place. For about the third time in five episodes, Mundo demanded Dario give him a title shot against Matanza or Sexy Star, and he got turned out down again. Mundo pointed out his team won the atomicos match, and Dario pointed out Jack actually got the win, so Jack will get a shot against Sexy Star next week. Mundo is less than thrilled with Dario’s booking.

The preview mention seeing the Rabbit Tribe. We got a vague :30 teaser for the Rabbit Tribe that seemed to have less info than the preview. The previewed mention a chilling message for Killshot. We got just that. Joey Ryan said a mystery man handed him an envelope to hand to hand to Killshot. (Given Joey’s current status quo, who knows about any of his stories.) Inside was simply a message saying “You Left Me For Dead.” Back in his intro vignette, Killshot mention he believed he was the only one of his unit to make it out alive from being a prisoner of war. Looks like he might have not been wrong on that one, or maybe not telling the truth.


Matanza kicks Puma's head off
Matanza kicks Puma’s head off

Main event really brought the show up. It was a very competitive and exciting match. I’m willing to trade Matanza’s reduced invulnerable for more of him just tossing people around like a ragdoll. Puma can be a pretty good ragdoll, and he can impressively knock Matanza around. They went 12 minutes and felt like they were just starting to get into an exciting end game; there’s a lot more here if they have a chance to get back to it. Mil costing Puma the match was a rare interference bit that got an actual angry reaction from the crowd. I think they’re ready to see that match.

The opener was perhaps Lucha Underground’s best argument yet for intergender wrestling, because the woman versus woman match wasn’t all that interesting. I rated it OK and that feels generous: it was a slower speed match than normal LU, the action wasn’t as good, and there were some noticeable edits/framing to hide some moves not looking good. Mariposa’s in storyline performance hasn’t been great – she’s in danger of Catrina sucking out her soul too – and her actual work on this show has been disappointing on this show. I still love the No Mas match, but nothing else has been much good. The promise of this being a mixed tag feud was not promising. (On the other hand, Jeremiah does seem like he’ll be entertaining at least – he had a pretty good sense of his character in his first time out.)

Cage/Texano was definitely better this time (though “This Is Awesome” chant four minutes in was a bit much, or we missed a whole lot.) The concept itself isn’t working as well this time. Drago & Aerostar were about on the same level when they did this. Cage has had title challenges on both seasons, Texano has…been on both seasons, and Cage dominating the series is re-enforcing those standings. Hopefully Texano’s inevitable comeback will give people a better reason to care about him and this series.

Matanza is sudden and strong
Matanza is sudden and strong
Puma is strong too
Puma is strong too