CMLL FantasticaMania Tokyo Day 1: 2018-01-19 

Soberano Jr.

Recapped: 01/19/2018


Okumura beat Fuego  
(6:49, reverse DDT, good)

Bushi, Hiromu Takahashi, Rush, Tetsuya Naito beat Dragón Lee, Hirai Kawato, Satoshi Kojima, Star Jr.
(15:57, BUSHI boston crab Kawato, good)

Atlantis, Drone, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Disturbio, Puma, Último Guerrero
(12:33, Atlantida on Puma, good)

Cuatrero beat Ángel de Oro © for the CMLL World Middleweight Championship
(11:42, spinning crucifix powerbomb, good)

Soberano Jr. © beat Sansón for the Mexican National Welterweight Championship
(11:16, fire driver, great)

Niebla Roja © vs Gran Guerrero for the CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship
(16:14, super Furia Roja, excellent)

What happened:

when things were going well for Angel de Oro

Cuatrero won the middleweight championship in a surprise.

Los Ingobernables beat up Kojima and Star Jr. after their match

Disturbio pulled up a little lame near the end of the match, appearing to have pulled a hamstring.

The second match was the annual Black Cat memorial match.


back at it again

The final two matches are worth going out of your way to see. I thought the main event had a little more to it and felt a little less like an exhibition. Sanson/Soberano had more athletic amazement, a better pace, so I could see people enjoying it more. It’s closer in my mind than the great/excellent difference up there.

No one rose to the occasion more than the two guys in the main event. This was a really tough ask for guys who’ve not been in that position a lot, but Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero put together their personal best match and the best built match of the night. It was hot from the start by the powerbomb catch, and they found little ways to keep escalating it. The clothesline/spinning forearm exchange was the moment where it was clear they had something, and the Japanese crowd loved Roja’s spinning forearm even more than I do. Both men really leaned into taking their opponents big moves in the most destructive looking ways. They also showed more offense than usual; I don’t know where Gran Guerrero got the super Michinoku drive but it looked great here. Everything pretty much went well, and you can say that for a most of this show – it was especially clean show given some of the youth in key positions. Niebla totally won over the crowd by the time it was done. Hope he can get that feeling in Arena Mexico too.

The Sanson/Soberano match was a super Soberano showcase, with him unloading all the biggest dives in his arsenal. He nailed every move had had to, with all his tornillos coming off well and the rare in-ring move going OK too. Sanson’s much more of a personality than his brother, and he’s also got much more he can do in singles matches at this point. I liked how they surprised with his near finish at the end, and they gave Sansón enough spots where he looked almost as good Soberano.


fair catch

The fourth match seemed all the world like a good Angel de Oro match, and a safe way to use Cuatrero in a single match. Angel de Oro picked up a knee injury, which didn’t stop him from doing his extended dive package, and it seemed like he was cruising to the campana win, until he lost it. Cuatrero winning clean with his crucifix powerbomb was an absolute shock. Cuatrero was fine for his first televised singles matches. His strikes, his stomps and small kicks, look really on point and painful. He could’ve used a bit more offense and he had one dropkick that looked horrible. Cuatrero didn’t come off as an undeserving champion, but a more overwhelming performance would’ve made more of an impact. He was more just moving around for Angel de Oro’s spots for a lot of this.

The second atomicos was more a getting to know you match than one going full out, but they accomplished their goal well. Disturbio’s done well for himself on this tour, showing more aggressiveness. Mistico & Último Guerrero continue to play a lot to the crowd on these shows, which gets over and their big moves later in the match get over. Cavernario seemed to talk to the crowd in-between every move, and the crowd really liked it, so I’m not going to stop him. Atlantis looked fine, which is probably partly due to Puma. It’s possible they could’ve had a better match but this worked for what they were going for.

Sanson bomb

This played out a lot like the Day 1 tag, just with slightly longer Dragon lee/Takahashi and Kojima/Rush segments to build that latter match. (You’d think they were doing the other one too soon, but that’s it for them as a combo on this tour) Star Jr. had an an eye opening performance for new fans, with the beautiful tornillo and surviving long in the match with his mask ripped. Rush destroyed Star Jr.’s mask pretty completely, and he had to kind of just work thru it or a while, then Star got crushed by a Rush chair shot to the head. Kawato shows some good fire and it’ll be interesting to see what happens when he gets to do some moves.

The opener worked for me. Fuego did so much more in an opener here than he does in an average match in Arena Mexico, though that’s not much of a surprise. It was nice to see the fosbery dive back for one night. Breaking out the springboard moves explained why he went thru his crowd playing moves so early. Okumura slapping Mima got the wrong kid of heat, and I think they quickly realized they had messed up there.

everyone dropkick

CMLL on 2018-01-12 

Triton is pretty good

Recapped: 01/12/2018


Eléctrico & Stukita beat Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
(11:55 [4:02, 2:55, 4:58], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr. beat Flyer, Pegasso, Stigma
(16:42 [6:18, 4:59, 5:25], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Sagrado, Tiger, Virus beat Blue Panther Jr., The Panther, Tritón  
(15:00 [6:54, 4:13, 3:53], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Titán beat Rey Cometa in a lightning match
(8:01, figure four cradle, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Valiente beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Sam Adonis
(9:01 [2:54, 2:09, 3:58], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone beat Kráneo, Vangellys, Terrible
(12:22 [4:52, 2:47, 4:43], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Stukita is a wizard

Shocker was supposed to be in this match, then Mr. Niebla, and it ended up with a rare Friday night Vangellys main event. Terrible and Diamante Azul feuded, with Azul pinning Terrible cleanly after stopping a foul and a mask pull.

Negro Casas appeared before the match, giving Blue Panther a present to give to Sam Adonis. It was a new USA flag. Adonis started waving it around without realizing the image in the center was of a bald Donald Trump. Sam also tried wearing his wig all match, only for it to get pulled off just before the end of the match.

The opener was Electrico’s final minis match. He will start in the main division in two weeks.


Sagrado guides Triton into the barricade

The main event looked like an off night show closer and played out that way for the most part. Marco had good timing on his spots, and Kraneo was amusing as always. Vangellys and Carístico did not have a lot of chemistry, though I’m not sure Carístico would’ve done much better with Mr. Niebla or Shocker. Terrible and Diamante Azul didn’t really do enough to give a sense of how that title match is going to work, but I’d be disappointed if Terrible lose it already.

The bald Trump flag was an inventive way to keep a sidelined Negro Casas still a little bit involved with Adonis, and gave a bit more energy to what looked like a normal match on paper. Blue Panther played Adonis enemy well, so much that third fall couldn’t start due to him waving around the flagpole empty. This was a fine enough match made fun by the little extra thought.

Cometa folds up Titan

Titan/Rey Cometa was an inventive lightning match. It wasn’t the throw everything at the wall match like with Dragon Lee and Titan, but a more building back and forth match. Their was a clear story that Titan had far surpassed Rey Cometa. Everything Cometa could do, Titan could do a little bit better. Cometa pushed Titan to have an entertaining match, but didn’t come all that cross to winning. Matches with definite winners and losers can work too.

Triton walking the ropes to set up the headscissors was incredible in the tercera, but it couldn’t save the rest of his team. T. Panther had some good moments, especially taking Tiger’s DDT. Blue Panther Jr. somehow messed up a roll up with the same Tiger. Sagrado is a fine jerk, but this match was more memorable parts than a complete picture for me.

The second match followed the first with the same layout. The rudos methodically took apart the técnicos for two falls before finally giving an opening. The difference here were the rudos also taking chunks of the third fall for no narrative reason. Raziel at least did some interesting mat work early, but this was a struggle to watch. Universo 2000 Jr. really had a tough time during the comeback and never really was all that good.

The opener should’ve been an Eléctrico exhibition, a showcase of why you should want to follow Eléctrico in the main division. The opener was instead an explanation of why Eléctrico would want out of the minis. The rudos were literally walking thru spots for the first two falls, just going thru their usual offense in a bored fashion. Stukita gave the match a little bit of life in the third. Eléctrico looked alright when he finally got his chance, but just alright – it wasn’t Fiero’s final match, and these rudos were definitely not Templario. It was just the same average minis match as always.

Mije can fly or at least fall

CMLL on 2018-01-06 

Fiero! or Audaz! or whomever

Recapped: 01/06/2018


Fiero, Flyer, Magia Blanca vs El Coyote, Templario, Yago
(9:44 [6:16, 3:28], 1/2, great,

Pegasso & Titán beat  Raziel & Virus
(24:13 [8:16, 5:22, 10:35], 1/3, ok, via

Soberano Jr. beat  Rey Cometa
(6:20, 2/3, good, via

  1. Rey Cometa Canadian Destroyer (1:37)

  2. Soberano tornillo (1:27)

  3. Soberano springboard legdrop (3:16)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr.
(16:06 [6:52, 3:03, 6:11], 1/3, good, via
VideosOficialesCMLL )

Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero
18:54, 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Gran Guerrero reverse armscissors (2:02)

  2. Niebla Roja huracanrana (3:50)

  3. Niebla Roja Furia Roja (13:02)

Último Guerrero & Valiente  vs Cavernario & Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(15:26 [4:11, 1:44, 9:31], 1/3, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Gran Guerrero casually catching, strolling, powerbombing

Though Audaz was announced for the match, Fiero wrestled under his previous name. After he won the match, Panico and JCR came to the ring to talk him up, and announce he’d be now known as Audaz. Fiero switched masks and celebrated. Panico spoke about this being the first of a lot of opportunities for young talent this year.


cool, but would’ve been cooler if he could pull it off a bit quicker

The main event had the elements of a good match, but it was missing a little heart for me. The issue with this format of rematches of big matches is the rematches are not as big. The rematches lack the same stakes that drove the wrestlers and the fans in the first match, and it feels a little flat in comparison. This one felt more like an all star tag exhibition match of showcasing moves rather than one where people were desperate to win. Último Guerrero, the worst offender, is better in theory in tag matches because there are people who can come in and out and he can’t just do the checklist match. In this one, he crossed a while bunch of the checklist with Volador before finally letting the other people play. They didn’t just do UG’s stuff, they repeated what seemed to be a lot of the final, but no one quite got into it as much the final, and it was one of those matches where no one was really close to winning until it was time to finish. There’s far worse and it entertained the fans, it just wasn’t all that interesting.

The Gran Guerrero/Niebla Roja match went very long. Maybe the plan, maybe because they were making up for other things going short. It led to it having a slow pace all the way thru, not even the rush at the end that happens frequently. Maybe they would’ve gotten to that moment; the finish seemed like it was a three count that shouldn’t have been one. The big moves were impressive, the crowd hating Niebla Roja was also impressive. I think I would’ve better enjoyed a much shorter version of this.


The fourth match was about normal for the NGD of late. They’ve plateaued on offense, rolling out almost the same spots every match and could use some freshening up there. Their selling is still good, actively making the técnicos look better in a way uncommon for a lot of rudos. Esfinge looked really good in this match, and I can’t credit him for all of that. They got a lot of time and tried to make use of it all the way thru better than the second match.

Soberano/Cometa was going along well enough, then Edgar counted three when Rey Cometa kicked out, or Cometa waited until too late to kick out. It seemed more on Cometa, and it seemed a disappointment compared to what was expected: this was effectively a lightning match with fall breaks. The highlights looked good but the match didn’t come the way it could’ve been. It’s alright if you’re not expecting a lot.

this is going to need a name

The segunda was going to have trouble following what happened to open the show by any means, but this match would’ve been a downer on a dead Tuesday show. Raziel & Virus killed the pace, with only sporadic moments of interest and no real direction. Pegasso & Titan would’ve had to go all out to make it work, and they could just make it sort of passable. The crowd wasn’t reacting to anything they were doing, which just make it stick out worse. They did end up unloading everything they could do b the end, and the crowd did react to Titan eliminating Raziel, but it sure took a long time to get to that point, and it was odd this came down to Pegasso.

I’m probably overrating the match because I was so excited to see an all out match in an CMLL opener, and these guys haven’t been as overexposed as others. Fiero’s superb, and they not so subtly made all the biggest moments of the match about him to build him up for his name change. This still wasn’t a one many show, with everyone else getting their own moments. Templario might one day surpass his técnico rival, and that they had him work every big spot with the guy they’re trying to get over speaks very well of him. Magia Blanca looked completely lost when he started in CMLL and has come so long way. Everyone looked like a strong prospect for the future, a hopeful way to start off this show.

cavernario ends a long day with a celebatory dropkick

great match roundup, week of 2017-12-30

didn’t want this to get hidden in the dark.

shows watched

That’s it. AAA is still in repeat mode. There’s no Friday show in this arbitrarily defined week; that’s a Saturday show. That doesn’t leave much to recommend, but at least I’m timely for once and I got to take a few days off to refresh.

That’s also means I don’t really have any backlog to post and the streak of recap posts on work days might end soon. The 01/28 Tapatia deadline is to force me to stick to one, so I’ll get the rest done soon enough.

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Negro Casas vs Sam Adonis for the hair LUCHA LIBRE CABELLERA VS CABELLERA NEGRO CASAS VS SAM ADONIS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-01-01 2018-01-01
good Tritón vs The Panther in a lightning matchLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE ENERO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-01-02 2018-01-02

Other Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Eléctrico & Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE CABELLERA VS CABELLERA NEGRO CASAS VS SAM ADONIS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-01-01 2018-01-01
ok Oro Jr., Star Jr., Starman vs Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Raziel LUCHA LIBRE CABELLERA VS CABELLERA NEGRO CASAS VS SAM ADONIS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-01-01 2018-01-01
ok Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther vs Nitro, Sagrado, Virus LUCHA LIBRE CABELLERA VS CABELLERA NEGRO CASAS VS SAM ADONIS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-01-01 2018-01-01
ok Drone, Esfinge, Titán vs Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE CABELLERA VS CABELLERA NEGRO CASAS VS SAM ADONIS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-01-01 2018-01-01
ok Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE CABELLERA VS CABELLERA NEGRO CASAS VS SAM ADONIS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-01-01 2018-01-01
ok La Jarochita, Maligna, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, La Metálica, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE ENERO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-01-02 2018-01-02
ok Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Sagrado LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE ENERO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-01-02 2018-01-02
ok Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE ENERO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-01-02 2018-01-02
not rated Fantasy & Shockercito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE ENERO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-01-02 2018-01-02
not rated Astral, Robin, Starman vs Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE ENERO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-01-02 2018-01-02

2017 watch later catch up, part 11 of ∞

maestro Eterno

Ángel Oriental, Aramis, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Dinamic Black, Power Bull, Skanda vs Aero Boy (Arena 23 De Junio), Centella Salazar, Danny Barrio, Homerito, Payachucho, Richy Beda, Último Conde, Xcorpio [Torneo FILL]
(IWRG FILL @ Arena Naucalpan on 08/23, 29:47, good, iwrgtv)


This was another fun cibernetico, though just short of great for me. It plays out differently than the previous version, with Aramis being a bit player instead of the big winner. (The crowd explodes when Black Dragon comes thru at the end, and I’m still confused by him losing the mask match.) Danny Barrio & Payachucho feel like they get bigger runs in this match, a lot against Dinamic Black. Dinamic is not a big deal but he absolutely towers over those dudes. They’re still very entertaining and a fun team I’d like to see more of. There’s no one feeling like a weaklink this time – even Fake Aeroboy is better this time – but maybe not the intensity of last matches’ brawl and not a strong feeling finish. You do get something different out of watching them both, and I wish they could combine the best parts into one best match.

Danny and Payachucho
+Lucha actually blurred out a face, which puts them ahead of 90% of lucha libre
Dragon threw himself into this one

Bombero Infernal vs Eterno, hair vs hair
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 09/03, 27:52, great, +LuchaTV)

Review: This was a wild feeling brawl. The brawl itself was crazy at times – the weird faceoff between Eterno and a fan was strange – but it also felt like the técnico/rudo sides switched multiple times during the match. Or that it wasn’t even that structure. It was a bit like the teacher giving his student one final test. It was also a lot like the crime boss’ underling trying to make a play to knock off his leader, getting caught and beaten unmercifully, gutting thru the pain and getting in the lucky/smart shot at the end. Eterno got stretched apart for an unusually long time for a third fall of a big match – maybe too long without getting comebacks, but the crowd still wanted to see him fight his way back to win. The veteran Bombero naturally should come off as the hero of this story, but it was Eterno who just kept surviving hold after hold to keep going. IWRG does blood better than AAA and is at it’s best when it can get emotion out of long term regulars in big matches, and this was both of those things. This feels like the best IWRG match of the year and could see people enjoying it even more than I did.

old man elbow smash
Atomic Star thrashed by fahter/son combo

Villano III Jr. vs Imposible
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 09/03, 10:02, good, via +LuchaTV)

Review: Villano III Jr. has been more fun than expected in AAA, and Impossible is always good, so this made the list to see what a competitive match between the two would look like. This is not really that; this is barely a competitive match. Imposible squashes V3 for the first two thirds of the match. I was surprised when the crowd was still into it when V3 finally got in something (even then, they were mostly behind Impossible.) There’s enough going on here that this is watchable, but they probably have a much more complete match in them if they ever got a chance.

we need to have one of these every time it’s an all IWRG edition
brillo villano

Pantera I © vs Aramis for the IWRG Intercontinental Lightweight Championship
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 09/17, 12:56, good, via IWRG tv)

Review: Aramis continues to look pretty good, if he still has a rough moment here or there. The first fall is a really good exhibition for what he can do. It slows down a bit from there until Aramis kills himself with a dive, and feels like it ends a bit too easily for a Pantera win, but he pulls off a lot of sharp looking spots here. Pantera works with him well, and the stuff that gets messy in the first fall never completely derails. Aramis comes off as a guy who’s close but not quite there, and might get there in 2018.

Aramis lived
Aramis is strong???

Emperador Azteca © vs Hijo del Pantera for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 09/17, 10:45, good, IWRG tv)

Review: This match picked up in the last few minutes, but felt like it was missing something in the middle. They were selling exhaustion and desperation big moves sooner than I was expecting, and it hurt the pace of the match. Not having lights was a distraction, just for me, but they also didn’t seem completely sharp. I’m still searching for that match where it comes together totally for either of these guys in a big match. This was good, but if that match.

Emperador spaanish fly

Eterno, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Arez, Centvrión, Séptimo Rayo
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 10/11, 25:01, great, IWRG tv)

Review: This match wasn’t at all what I was expecting. The young-ish guys spent two falls working like old lucha libre maestros, for a match built around exchange holds instead of big high spots and dives. The latter ones do come in to the third fall, but the exchanges before it are really interesting. Both the Centvrion/Trauma II and Arez/Eterno long back and forth include creative submissions; this didn’t feel like the rote usual holds, but some unique stuff done to impress. It did impress. Trauma I/Septimo Rayo wasn’t the same level, which made it more interesting that it led to a pinfall. The third fall got wrapped up a little easy compared to what happened before, and I felt like they could’ve gone even father if they wanted, but this is still a match worth going out of your way to watch.

Here’s a free idea I haven’t been able to shake for months. I’m never going to promote a lucha libre show but if I did, my idea right now would be to steal the concept of CHIKARA’s Johnny Kidd Invitational, a techinically tournament, just with Mexican luchadors. Every (old) media person says that’s the style of wrestling they would like to see and, while I’m not convinced fans would feel the same, it would make really easy to get attention for your show if you can sell it right. Anything that makes your show different and special compared to the million other indie shows is a big help. I’d lean heavily towards guys like in this match rather than loading it up all with Solar/Navarro types, because you can more easily make a memorable performance with someone surprising with their technically ability than the guys who always do that style. (You probably need one ‘Solar’, but you also need to have seven clean finishes, no draws, and that’s tough to do with a Solar.) They showed they could do it if they’re put in a position to do it here, they just need the right context.

Arez can be super smooth
so many strange submissions

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-01-02 

Panther tope

Recapped: 01/03/2017


Fantasy & Shockercito beat Pequeño Nitro & Pierrothito
(13:13 [5:39, 2:58, 4:36], 1/3, m/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Nitro beat Astral, Robin, Starman
(8:12 [5:53, 2:19], 1/2, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dalys, La Metálica, Tiffany beat La Jarochita, Maligna, Princesa Sugehit  
(14:13 [7:38, 2:22, 4:13], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

The Panther beat Tritón in a lightning match
(5:09, pinfall after missed top rope move, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. beat Felino, Mr. Niebla, Sagrado
(9:14 [2:28, 2:44, 4:02], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(13:25 [4:49, 2:37, 5:59], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

shout out to Fuerza M

Triton suffered a rib injury on a missed twisting senton from the top rope. It was clearly not the planned finish to the match: the ref held up at 2, then counted three again.

Mije was with the rudos (Cancerbero in particular), and attacked Starman as he had Signo up for his finish. That allowed Signo to get free and foul Starman for the DQ.


Niebla Roja & Angel de Oro seem to like working with the NGD a bit, and hopefully that means they go somewhere with this at some point. Maybe it’ll just be this year’s never ending match up that doesn’t have a title match. The Roja/Oro flip spot still has to go, but this generally should be a tag team program. Carístico was also present and the match was fine in the usual Tuesday way.


The semimain was an energetic match, especially down in the closing stretch. They didn’t break any new group but worked well together. Sagrado looks so skinny next to Felino & Niebla, but not as skinny as Soberano. Guerrero Maya’s new mask is strange.

Sacrifica Panther

The Panther nailing Triton with a tope before the match was pretty shocking. Triton ending the match on a missed move was pretty shocking too. They were trying pretty hard in between, really their own attempt at doing what Titan & Dragon Lee did a few weeks ago in their lightning match. It was a fast paced with tons of spots. There was so much action early on that I was honestly confused when the clock showed only two and half minutes had elapsed after a dive. I don’t think they were going the full ten even if Triton had not been injured, they would’ve burned out too soon, but they were going for as great a match as possible. It’s CMLL, so there’s no telling if they’ll never do a rematch or if they’ll come back in three weeks, but at least the técnico/técnico match ups of the new format have been occasionally interesting.

I watched the women’s match just to get a sense of Maligna. She seemed alright at standing on the apron watching Sugehit & Dalys wrestle most of the match. The new girl only got time in the first fall, and it’ll take some more matches to see if they’re hiding her or if there’s more there. She didn’t stick out positively but it was an absurd amount of time. You would’ve thought they were setting up a champion vs champion singles match with the way the match went, but it’s mostly just going nowhere.

and on and on

great match roundup, week of 2017-12-23

Volador & Caristico

shows watched

This is the last one of these for 2017. The next one will have 12/30, but there wasn’t anything new aired prior to 01/01. I still have one The Crash show from 12/01, and, at this point,

recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
good Blue Panther Jr., Star Jr., The Panther vs Puma, Sagrado, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-29 2017-12-29
good Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-29 2017-12-29
good Volador Jr. © vs Carístico for the NWA World Welterweight Championship LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-29 2017-12-29

other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok La Jarochita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis LUCHA LIBRE 10 MASCARAS EN JUEGO LUCHA EN JAULA LUNES 25 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-25 2017-12-25
ok Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther Jr., Niebla Roja vs Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE 10 MASCARAS EN JUEGO LUCHA EN JAULA LUNES 25 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-25 2017-12-25
ok Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE 10 MASCARAS EN JUEGO LUCHA EN JAULA LUNES 25 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-25 2017-12-25
ok Star Jr. vs NitroOro Jr.TemplarioStarmanCancerberoFieroHijo del SignoPegassoRaziel in a cage match and for the mask LUCHA LIBRE 10 MASCARAS EN JUEGO LUCHA EN JAULA LUNES 25 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-25 2017-12-25
ok Bengala & Retro vs El Coyote & Yago LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-12-26 2017-12-26
ok Flyer, Sangre Imperial, Sensei vs Akuma, Artillero, Espíritu Negro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-12-26 2017-12-26
ok Drone, Fiero, Fuego vs Disturbio, Nitro, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-12-26 2017-12-26
ok Virus vs Universo 2000 Jr. in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-12-26 2017-12-26
ok Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Pólvora LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-12-26 2017-12-26
ok Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Shocker LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-12-26 2017-12-26
ok Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-29 2017-12-29
ok Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-29 2017-12-29
below average Shockercito & Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE 10 MASCARAS EN JUEGO LUCHA EN JAULA LUNES 25 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-25 2017-12-25
below average Magia Blanca & Robin vs Metálico & Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-12-29 2017-12-29
watch later Arez, Bombero Infernal, Dr. Cerebro, Fantasma de la Ópera, Internacional Pantera, Oficial 911, Robin Maravilla, Yakuzavs Akira San, Cadilac, Diablo Jr., Dragón Bane, Fulgor II, Lacerado Kid, Moto Cross, X-Corpio in a cibernetico match Maestros vs Students cibernetico from IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-12-23 (posted by thecubsfan) IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-12-23 2017-12-20

The Crash: 2017-11-04 

450 thru the table

Recapped: 12/25-26/2017

Back on the handhelds for this one; Konnan’s Patreon never posted November’s Tijuana show, and he’s secretly gone by the time the December one happens. It’s great that there are kind people recording this show themselves for no or little money, but it is frustrating to go back to rough camera angles; you’ll probably get tired of me saying some variation “this match would probably be better if I could see all of it.” The bigger issue is MegaKakashi only recorded about half the card. Other people posted highlights, but reviewing off highlights is fruitless. The four matches I’m watching are the only ones I could find in full. I’d very much like to watch Flamita/Laredo vs Flip/Sammy, but there doesn’t appear to be a full one available.


Keyra © vs Christi Jaynes vs Lacey Lane vs Baronessa [The Crash WOMEN]
(6:17, good, via

Review: the women went full speed for six minutes and everyone was better off for it. Even Baronessa looked better than usual. Lacey Lane getting in the fancy springboard in the opening seconds got her over here. There is a problem where this feels a little bit too much like the men’s matches without strong personalities to get them over. Maybe it’s just the stacked up superplex. Everyone needs to stop doing the stacked up superplex. I liked the hard hitting aspect of the women’s matches, even as borderline unprofessional they sometime seemed to be, because it was different than everything else. This was a well put together highspot sprint, which is nice but not as different.

There is a long term problem here: every women’s match is either a mixed tag or a multiwomen to get more people involved, except Keyra’s winning them all and everyone else is just getting over as “people Keyra beats.” Maybe that’s enough, but it feels like she’s got to face people the fans see as threats if Keyra matches are going to be a draw. I’m both not sure if that’s possible, or who that would even be that this crowd would know? Maybe Taya, if she could/would work here? Maybe you could bring name US indie women, but are they big enough name to matter? Maybe she just grandstand challenges people in AAA or CMLL until one of them inevitably becomes available? There’s gotta be a next step here.

fancy armdrag one
fancy armdrag 2

Hanson & Raymond Rowe vs Brian Cage & Shane Strickland and Mr. 450 & Willie Mack
(16:30, good, via

What Happened: Mack & 450 have slight problems during the match, which leads to a feud between them later on.

Review: An action match others might like more than me. This match was really picking up steam nicely and then the Stunner series just struck me as to cut. It worked better the other few times I saw it. Crowd liked it, but it took me out of the moment. At times before, it just felt like a series of moves, some really nice moves, but it took a while to progress to the point where it felt like they were doing more than an exhibition, and then the most exhibition-y spot happened. They got it back a bit, with the crowd into the big Cage/Strickland and 450/Mack near falls, but it also had to serve the Mack/450 split up story. One thing I did think was cool is they did a couple spots where the guy taking the move is ‘supposed to’ land on their feet, messes up and lands on their knees, but then it turns out someone leaps off their back in the flow of action for a big move. It was a nice way to change expectations. On the other hand, they didn’t have the best of luck catching dives in this one.

this came together nicely
Mack launcher

Rey Mysterio 619 vs Rush vs Penta Zero M vs La Máscara for The Crash Heavyweight championship
(18:43, ok, via MegaKakashi619)

What Happened: There’s no actual belt. The story is the belt was done in time. The belt incorporates Rey Mysterio’s mask in its design, alongside photos of Eddie Guerrero and Perro Aguayo, so it also probably would’ve given away the result had it been shown.

After the match, a man in a Volador mask comes to the ring, and helps Rush & Mascara attack Mysterio & Penta. He unmasks as Voaldor Jr., shocking the crowd. Following a CMLL angle, Volador considers putting up Los Ingobernable salute to join them, but does not. The CMLL (and ex-CMLL) trio and Rey/Penta go back and forth on the mic. This is a big deal in the moment, and absolutely none of it has gone anywhere.

Review: This is a match that feels like it doesn’t really get started until ten minutes into the bell time (17:42 total), and that’s just a one minute Penta/Rey faceoff. That’s after the two sections of crowd brawling, none of which the camera could keep up with. These guys milk a rabid crowd but it definitely loses something not being there in the moment and becomes tedious to watch and settling down for about nine good minutes of action. It is worth going thru to the post match to hear the shocked reaction of the crowd when the man under the Volador Jr. mask turns out to actually be Volador Jr.

this didn’t seem fun

Bestia 666 vs Jack Evans , hair vs hair
MegaKakashi619, great)

Review: [great] The big blowoff match is built around big spots, and they do a good job of teasing them out enough to make the moment they happen more meaningful The impact afterwards always there, but it does cumulatively add to the drama. The last big spot they want falls apart – literally, the light tube table they had planned falls apart when Jack’s placed on it – but I think it actually works to the matches’ advantage. They adapt pretty quick to go to valagueza back and forth and the crowd believes the match could end at any point after the last prop is broken. The other big spots come off well, and the bigger disappointment is more that the crowd isn’t that into until those few spots. Still, this felt like a worth big hair match. (This video is hurt by not following the action early on, and not being able to later on, but it’s still pretty good overall.)

table destruction

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-12-26 

Virus is small, but that just means he doesn’t need a big opening

Recapped: 12/26/2017


El Coyote & Yago beat Bengala & Retro
(12:35 [4:43, 3:07, 4:45], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Flyer, Magia Blanca, Sensei beat Akuma, Artillero, Espíritu Negro
(15:23 [7:39, 4:23, 3:21], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Drone, Fiero, Fuego beat Disturbio, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
(13:35 [5:05, 5:25, 3:05], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Virus beat Universo 2000 Jr. in a lightning match
(6:41, step over toe hold chickenlock, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL

Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Pólvora beat Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Tritón
(14:40 [6:01, 2:58, 5:41], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Titán beat Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Shocker
(9:09 [2:45, 2:07, 4:17], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

flying cat

Nothing as far as storylines. This didn’t build up anything for another show.

Shocker is now wrestling without his face protection head gear.

Mije is with Mascara Año 2000. This Is Triton’s first match here in about 9 months, spending that time in the US. He seems to have lost some weight and is no longer wrestling a shirt, at least for his debut.

Espíritu Negro suffers some a facial injury when Sangre Imperial messes up a boosted up dropkick and forearms Espiritu in the face. Edgar is slow to realize what’s going on, more concerned with Negro’s feet getting out off the ropes for the pin. The doctor is slower, and Flyer actually springboard over Espiritu to land his legdrop on Akuma. They strangely can’t wait until Espíritu is off the pain to start the third fall.


Coyote senton

The main event wrapped up well enough even if it was a bit of a drag earlier. The third fall really got over well with the tourists, with spots that shouldn’t surprise hardcore fans getting loud reactions. Shocker seems slightly better the last couple of weeks, even as he sucks large amounts of air on the apron in between runs. He still needs to lose weight, for his own sake and for his mobility, but he might not be the worst wrestler in the promotion.

The rudos didn’t seem all that into in the semimain. Maya’s comeback starts in the seconds fall with Pólvora & Mascara watching peacefully as he runs by for a tope. The técnicos got in a little in the third fall, but this was an underwhelming match. Triton seemed to be in good shape in his return, even if his return was treated as a minor deal.

The lightning match actually told a logical story: Universo 2000 Jr. is much bigger than Virus and used his size to batter Virus for most of the match. Virus could occasionally avoid a shot, but was one chop away from being knocked back down. Universo 2000 just didn’t have enough to put away Virus, and Virus just needed an opening to submit him. It covered nicely for Universo 2000 Jr. not really being able to do a lot right now: for a match built around Universo offense, he didn’t impress much. This is probably about as good a match as you’re going to see out of him for the time being.

Shocker DOWN

The tercera was closer to good than usual for matches with Sangre Azteca & Nitro. I didn’t hate myself for watching it. It’s not just the entertaining técnicos, the rudos brought more energy than usual for whatever random usual. Fiero didn’t get to go crazy like he does with Templario around but did get in one nice dive at the end. Drone’s corkscrew headscissors submission is an interesting idea but it looked too much like he was getting pinned by Disturbio at the end.

Sangre Imperial is bad and dangerous. I thought maybe Flyer didn’t boost him high enough, but it’s not like Imperial tried to get the dropkick at any point. He screwed up and someone else paid the price. He then set Akuma in the wrong corner to do his moonsault, which made it take much longer and he still missed it after all. Akuma and Flyer continue to look like guys who would do fine at a higher level – they handled having to come up with an extra finish well. Good luck on them getting out of there.

Sangre Azteca is so into his dropkicks

There must be some standard of deciding when a trainee is ready to make the leap onto shows, but it’s not one that’s really evident by their performance in the matches we see: Yago, Coyote and Retro all look at far different points in progression. Bengala might as well be considered an official trainee, because either he’s teaming with a Sonic or he’s facing a Coyote pretty much every match. Retro shows nothing and looks awkward, but he’s tall and his body is changing so Rob’s point about him eventually getting a big push makes sense. Yago knows he’s got to get over the moment he steps out there, and acts like a guy who’s been around for a lot longer that most of these trainees. Maybe I’m just suspicious of everyone’s age after Signo, but Yago just doesn’t come off like the other guys.

CMLL on ClaroSports: 2018-01-01 

Adonis 450

Recapped: 01/01/2018


Eléctrico & Último Dragóncito beat Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
(12:03 [4:56, 3:29, 3:38], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL )

Oro Jr., Star Jr., Starman beat Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Raziel
(11:42 [6:01, 3:09, 2:32], 1/3 DQ (2 also DQ), ok, VideosOficialesCMLL )

Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther beat Nitro, Sagrado, Virus
(14:35 [6:52, 4:33, 3:10], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL )

Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Vangellys beat Esfinge, Titán, Valiente Drone  
(10:36 [2:35, 2:48, 5:13], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL )

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(13:17 [5:57, 4:34, 2:46], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL )

Negro Casas beat Sam Adonis, hair vs hair
(12:37, 1/3, great,  VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Negro Casas scorpion (2:30)
  2. Sam Adonis 450 splash (3:19)
  3. Negro Casas casita (6:48)

What happened:

Titan clearing out the side

Dalys seconded Casas. Johnny Idol & Okumura were with Adonis, but the commission said he could only have one. After a bit of stalling, Johnny Idol was sent away. It didn’t really factor into the match, though Dalys and Adonis did have a brief post match skirmish when Adonis attacked Casas while trying to get away. He did come back and get his hair shaved.

Signo & Starman continued to feud. Starman fouled Signo for the DQ in the second, Signo unmasked him in the third. The rudos unmasked Star Jr. as well.


Casas was taking superplex and dealing missile dropkicks

The main event was a success. The heat was there, the crowd cared far more about this match than anything on this show. It was the action that was more of a surprise, this felt like the best action performance by Adonis in his CMLL run. This wasn’t the hidden flag pole shot, interference match that seemed teased by the build up, but an unexpectedly clean battle. It turned out, at least on this night, they didn’t really need it. The crowd was into every chop, every weird mafia kick block exchange, and stayed with the match the entire way threw. Adonis’ performance (and his post match antics) came off strong enough that I think CMLL could build him up and run something like this again if they wanted to – there absolutely seemed to be more mileage in him. This felt a little shorter than the usual CMLL apuesta match, but it was probably better that way. Casas can go hard for a limited amount of time, and they went just the right time for him. Plus, the sudden casita win was a shocking but memorable way to close it.

The semimain was an alright match after some really boring matches, and nice for that. It still wasn’t NGD at their best, but it had moments of actual excitement before rushing to the finish. It wouldn’t have stood out positively on another show.

The técnicos had some good energy in the fourth match, but they didn’t really have good opponents to work with. Vangellys & Shocker didn’t have much to add, and Niebla’s not exactly carrying this thing by himself. This was not a good match when they put it together and lived up to expectations.

the referee freezing in place really makes it come together as a failure.

The tercera had the usual big run at the end, but it wasn’t that big, didn’t last that long, and didn’t make up for exceedingly mailed in performance prior to it. Everyone was at fault, and no one was trying. Blue Panther Jr. lost Virus on the nudo lagunero (slippery hands) and thought pinning him would just be enough. That was not a correct belief.

Losing his mask has given Signo a little more focus and energy. He’s still not any good and neither was this match. No one besides the two guys in it have much interest in this feud going on, and the brawling wasn’t enough to turn it around.

An ordinary minis match led this show off. This had more effort than the equivalent match on the Christmas Day show, but they weren’t going that hard – Mercurio seemed more interested in what weird stuff he could work into the match. He did a lot of not a lot. Some day, the minis will have a direction and it’ll be mindblowing.

just a nice camera angle