CMLL/NJPW FantasticMania 2012, night 2

taped 2012-01-22 @ Korakuen Hall



Máscara Dorada vs Kushida for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship: a battle for survival for Dorada. He spent most of his last defense doing anything he could think of, while this match was more about surviving everything Kushida could do before slipping out a win. Both were about Dorada’s toughness, just different ways of going about it. Still, this felt more like a Kushida match than a Dorada match that I’m used to Mexico – Dorada only got in small bursts of offense at opportune times, and I wasn’t into it as a I thought. It was good but not especially so. I assume a rematch to come.

these .gifs are fun for spots, but aren't great at capturing the feel of a match. This is as close as I got.

Hirooki Goto vs Rush: and this was kind of the opposite. Goto got less than the match than Dorada, easily so. Rush just crushed him for the first five minutes before Goto started getting anything in. This is so clearly what they were going for with the two Terrible/Rush matches, but haven’t been able to achieve yet (Goto is better at this than Terrible, which is not a big surprise.) Rush held his own as a luchador the whole way, the rookie mistakes long gone or at least just not showing up here, and seemed to impress the fans. This is about as good start as he could’ve had. Like everyone else, I’d like to see what Rush could do in a G1 situation; I don’t know that he’s got a lot more to show that he didn’t do here, but that kind of environment could force him to develop a bit more.

the end

La Sombra vs Volador Jr. for the NWA World Welterweight Championship: Great. They worked this differently than every other match on the show – no chop fights, no slow down, really nothing but action. There was a minute or two of first fall work, but this was mostly the longest third fall possible with both guys pulling everything they had. I kind of would’ve liked to see three falls just so they – more so Volador – could get a pin with another finish to make it seem bigger later, but they fans did tremendously get into to the match. This was a complicated well executed match in their style, and it was one that seemed like it was better than the matches the previous two years. These two keep getting better together.

Devil's Wings


peace, out

In the other matches: I thought Nakamaura wearing the Mephisto (which is actually the Kahoz) eyes and mouth on his hood was a really neat touch. The Japanese likely have a higher opinion of Diamante than the Mexicans. He wasn’t that much different, but here he was the singular super young future star of the company, instead of one of dozens who all might (or might not) turn out that way. Liger is the best. Yoshihashi actually seems worse off in NJPW than he was at the end of CMLL; just sort of lifeless and more limited. Anyone willing to spend a year and a half a hemisphere from home just to get better is someone who deserves to make it, but I don’t know that he will.

CMLL on SamuraiTV: 2012-01-21

taped 2012-01-21 @ Korakuen Hall


YOSHI-HASHI as Yoshihashi

I’m not going to do the traditional short description per matches here, because I basically did that for the recaps. This is going to be shorter than short. You still get your moving pictures.

Misterioso STRONG

Goto/KUSHIDA versus Mascara Dorada/Rush was that match of the night. Team Jalisco came out roaring and just took it to their more established team. This was finally getting to see Rush as a rudo, while weirdly also getting the same of Dorada. Rush came off looking like a monster in his first appearance and both singles matches were built well. This was a total success.

team Dive

I’ve watched very little NJPW this year. I went thru some of the CMLL participation early this month, but the entire Sombra G1 run is still sitting on my DVR, waiting for a day when I’ve somehow managed to exhaust all the lucha I have to watch. Tama Tonga was totally new to me and a nice little surprise. “Son of Haku” turns out to be less Haku islander and more excitable Jimmy Snuka islander. He really has a good sense of his character and the fans seemed to be getting into him. I’m also always trying to figure out how CMLL could use these people when they randomly bring them in for three weeks. They’ve been using the NJPW guys exclusively as rudo so far, but Tonga would get over great as a tecnico.

and then there was the time Diamante almost killed Yujiro
Volador Spiral

It appears they’re going to do Dino/Maximo vs Taichi/? every year, which is fine. Misterioso and Diamante fit in well in their roles and were surprisingly well accepted by the crowd. Mephisto could probably hang out with Chaos full time. I wanted more Volador vs Tanahashi, just because Volador versus any popular tecnico is a good time right now, but they did the right finish to set up Day 2 well. Okada kept reminding me of WWE’s Jack Swagger, appearing to be a physically talented guy but missing that extra spark to be a top guy. He did not seem near Tanahashi’s level. Not that I’m the first or last to say that.

01/21-22 CMLL/NJPW Fantastic Mania 2012 lineups

NJPW CMLL (SAT) 01/21/2012 Korakuen Hall
***Fantastic Mania 2012 (Day 1)***
1) Danshoku Dino & Máximo vs Taichi & Taka Michinoku
2) King Fale & Tama Tonga vs Shigeo Okumura & YOSHI-HASHI
3) Prince Devitt, Ryusuke Taguchi, Tiger Mask IV vs Gedo, Jado, Misterioso Jr.
4) Hirooki Goto & Kushida vs Máscara Dorada & Rush
5) Diamante, Jushin Liger, Tetsuya Naito vs Mephisto, Shinsuke Nakamura, Yujiro Takahashi
6) Hiroshi Tanahashi & La Sombra vs Kazuchika Okada & Volador Jr.

Day 1 is primarily setup this year; they don’t seem as concerned with loading up both shows. Also, NJPW’s juniors champions (Devitt & Taguchi) are kept away from the CMLL guys for the most part. These are stand alone shows and shouldn’t be excepted to directly set up anything more CMLL/NJPW related.

NJPW is busy setting up a Tanahashi/Okada match, as you can tell from all these lineups.

The secret CHAOS/Hijos de Averno alliance still seems to be in effect.

Misterioso was supposed to face Tiger Mask in the H1N1 canceled appearance (this was when they were doing Mistico/Tiger Mask a lot), so he finally gets a hold of him here. He should fit in well with Gedo & Jado, he’s got the “‘o” already. Misterioso, Diamante and Mephisto seem mostly here just to make up the numbers (and Diamante looks to be taking direct losses both nights), but hopefully they’ll get a chance to show off a bit.

Taichi and Maximo continue their feud in the opener.

NJPW CMLL (SUN) 01/22/2012 Korakuen Hall
***Fantastic Mania 2012 (Day 2)***
1) Prince Devitt, Ryusuke Taguchi, Tama Tonga, Tiger Mask IV vs Gedo, Jado, Shigeo Okumura, YOSHI-HASHI
2) Jushin Liger & Máximo vs Misterioso Jr. & Taichi
3) Máscara Dorada vs Kushida [CMLL WELTER]
4) Hirooki Goto vs Rush
5) Diamante, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Tetsuya Naito vs Kazuchika Okada, Mephisto, Shinsuke Nakamura
6) La Sombra vs Volador Jr. [NWA WELTER]

This is the interesting show. Volador and Sombra in a match seemed guaranteed once they were both announced for this show. They’re going to be all out for this one, and the only danger is trying to do too much.

Hirooki Goto versus Rush is an interesting match. Non-title points toward the finish, but Rush has a strong chance to make a name for himself in two nights. After, Goto and Rush can commiserate about failing to win the heavyweight title.

Mascara Dorada lost the CMLL Welterweight Championship to Taguchi last year. I think he’ll hold onto it this year, in what could be a good year for him in Japan.

These shows are broadcast on SamuraiTV rapidly, so they’ll be showing up thru the puroresu videos sites. You should also check out the Mask Mania blog for posts about how it’s like to be there.

04/28: GDL, No Limit, canceled shows

CMLL (SUN) 04/26 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [MT]
5) Dragon Rojo Jr., Rey Bucanero, Ultimo Guerrero b La Sombra, Mascara Dorada, Mistico

Rudos won the first, tecnicos took the second, Sombra and Mistico did dives, and Dragon powerbombed Sombra for the clean pin. After the match, they set up Sombra defending his NWA welterweight title against Dragon Rojo Jr. next week.

New Japan’s Yurijo & Naito (team No Limit) are currently scheduled to work CMLL. These are apparently the two Ovaciones mentioned yesterday, because they were actually listed by name on this past week’s Ras de Lona. SuperLuchas says they’re headed in May 11, which is safely after the swine flu shutdown at the moment, but this is a fluid situation. No Limit’s currently hanging around TNA, with a NJPW storyline of trying to win back the IWGP Junior Tag Team titles from the Motor City Machine Guns, and a TNA storyline of being stereotypical anti-American foreigners. If they do make it to CMLL, No Limit vs Volador & Sombra for CMLL’s tag match is the obvious big match.

Unfortuantly, it appears CMLL guys won’t be headed to Japan. Strong Style Spirit mentions Mistico, Misterioso II, and Okumura have been restricted from traveling to Japan due to the swine flu, so they’re off the shows next week. They’ll surely reschedule this down the line, but it’s a tough break.

Going around the country:
– Canceled: all lucha in Nuevo Laredo, up to and including the shows next Monday
– Canceled: all lucha in Puebla, up to and including the shows next Monday
– Canceled: all lucha in Durango, as part of a prohibition of all public gatherings for the duration.
– Canceled: lucha in Mazatlan, thru May 7th.
– Canceled: all lucha in Tamaulipas, thru May 6th
– Canacled: Tuesday’s show in Arena Coliseo Monterrey, though Sunday’s AAA show is still on at the moment.
– AAA says 90% of it’s shows have been canceled, 60 shows, but doesn’t specifically mention anything but the TV tapings. I presume a lot of those shows hadn’t/wouldn’t make it to their event listings, because there’s not sixty shows there even if you go back to the start of the week.
– CMLL’s also canceled it’s shows in SLP and Cuernavaca this week. IWRG and AULL are also off.
– Still On: Torreon, where the Wagner show on Friday is still on, though the promoters are waiting to hear otherwise. Not sure about the nearby Thursday AOL show.
– Still On: a lucha show on Saturday in Guanajuato, for student graduation, where they’re also watching the situation

I’m horrible with Mexican (and Canadian) geography, but I do know some of those places are not near Mexico City. Everyone’s being super cautious, understandably so. It surprised me that Guadalajara is not added to this list. ESPN Deportes’s lucha blog has an entry on the flu. I think I’m going to make a post of canceled lineups later on.

In addition to all of that, yesterday’s 5.7 earthquake was felt in both CMLL’s arenas, and Ovaciones says they’ll need to be inspected to make sure there’s no damage.

Luchando Libre points out TripleMania tickets are already on TicketMaster. Prices appear to be from 1200 to 10 pesos ($85 to $7, although they list some VIP tickets for under a dollar but I have no idea where the seats are.)

Cesar’s blog mentions a bar fight with Chessman, Cibernetico, and Fabian el Gitano, including Cibernetico trying to bribe the police after the match. I knew this blog was going to be fantastic. There’s also one two posts pointing out the ridiculousness of the independents (“authentic wrestling” = metric ton of bs, fraud and shenanigans), and a post noting Dr. Wagner would still prefer to be in CMLL.

AAA wants you to know they have no idea what they’re doing with the Cruiserweight tournament. Now you know.

Kcidis has Cibernetico vs Perro.

If you need something to cheer you up, watch this week’s Ras de Lona. Most of the show is various wrestlers goofing around at a circus, Circo Hermanos Vazquez, which is the closest to the old wacky vignettes in a long time. See Sombra on the trapeze, Dragon Rojo on a runaway horse, Stuka on a very tiny tricycle and Felino and Tiger Kidd actually in a tiger cage.

DJ Spectro looks at Audaz and Flama Azul.

Guerreros del Ring #188 has Pierroth on the cover, with friends and rivals talking about him. Luchas 2000 #468 seems to be promoting the return of their annual legends show, though no date is mentioned on the cover.

LuchaWorld has Robert on GDL 12/16 & 12/23/07, MVS shows from 02/09 & 02/10 CMLL and AULL 01/12/08, plus KrisZ‘s news update.

CMLL (FRI) 05/08 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Angel de Oro & Angel de Plata vs Dr. X & Hooligan
2) Bam Bam, Mascarita Dorada, Saturno vs Pequeno Black Warrior, Pequeño Damian 666, Pierrothito
3) Dark Angel, Lady Apache, Marcela vs Amapola, Hiroka, Princesa Blanca
4) Mascara Dorada vs Virus [CMLL SL]
5) La Sombra & Volador Jr. vs Atlantis & Ultimo Guerrero [CMLL TAG]

Amazing how CMLL’s Arena Coliseo Guadalajara anniversary shows just keep happening to occur on the same day of big indy shows.

LLL’s idea of taping this is good, but I think the hope right now is CMLL would be running Arena Mexico by the 8th. (Dorada vs Virus = TAPE IT ANYWAY.) Dark Angel’s CMLL status is ongoing matter of debate; Cesar says she’ll be working as Dark Angel in CMLL while TNA gives her a new name, but SuperLuchas says not so sure about Dark Angel working this show. SuperLuchas tends to have the best Dark Angel info, but I hope they’re wrong – Sarah has been really awesome this year in every CMLL match I’ve seen her.

Negro Casas & Texano in NJPW

Negro Casas and Texano Jr. are in NJPW. Yes, that’s what happened to them.

I haven’t been much interesting in this excursion, becuase it’s such a random meaningless pairing; these two haven’t teamed in CMLL, and won’t be when they come back. I’m not expecting to win title or achieve some higher rank or leap ahead in progress; they’re just gone for a couple weeks. I think I ought to care, because Negro’s still good and Texano’s got the connections were you know he’ll be an important part of CMLL (or AAA) in years to come, but I can’t get too worked up over a nothing happening tour.

Fittingly, the tour I can’t get worked up about is the one where the lucha guys are actually getting wins. NJPW’s setting up a tour ending IWRG Junior Heavyweight Tag Title match, Negro and Texano challenging Jado and Gedo. This is the same championship Felino & Negro challenged for last year. The lucha team’s gotten some wins to build towards the match, and Jado & Gedo have insisted on contesting the title match under lucha libre rules to leave no doubt about their (sure thing) victory.

(Results via Strong Style Spirt)

11/25: Tiger Mask, Negro Casas, Texano Jr. b Jado, Gedo, Milano Collection AT {DQ Milano}
11/26: Koji Kanemoto, Negro Casas, Texano Jr. b Jushin Liger, Minoru, Prince Evitt {Kanemoto beat Minoru}
11/29: Negro Casas & Texano Jr. b Mitsuhide Hiraswa & Tetsuya Naito {Texano {Torando Texas} Naito}
(I’d guess that’s the fireman’s carry backbreaker.)

12/02: Negro Casas, Texano Jr., Ryusuke Taguchi vs Jushin Liger, Jado, Gedo [lucha libre rules]
12/03: Negro Casas, Texano Jr. vs El Samurai & Ryusuke Taguchi
12/05: El Samurai, Negro Casas, Texano Jr. vs Jado, Gedo, Prince Devitt
12/07: Koji Kamemoto, Negro Casas, Texano Jr. vs Jado, Gedo, Minoru
12/09: Tiger Mask, Negro Casas, Texano Jr. vs Jado, Gedo, Milano Collection AT
12/10: Jado & Gedo vs Negro Casas, Texano Jr. [IWRG JR TAG, lucha libre rules]