Tag: great match roundup

included in this group

• (AAA is the first week of the Hard Rock show, which was covered live)
• 10/09 CMLL Puebla
• 10/10 CMLL Mexico
• 10/11 Lucha Underground (3×39)
• 10/13 CMLL Claro

It’s November and I’m posting the second week of October stuff. So it goes. GIF burn out is real. It looks like I actually had this specific post ready on October 17, but it took me two weeks to finish the Crash stuff. I guess you’re getting what you pay for.

This was the Leyenda de Plata week, which was really good. Taya/Sexy Star was better than Dalys/Sugehit live but I think the TV version was worse? I don’t know, it’s a long time ago. The real thing TV couldn’t capture is how cathartic it was to see Dante Fox & Killshot win together 24 hours after seeing them tear each other apart.

Recommended matches

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
great	Carístico & Volador Jr. vs Mephisto, Mistico, Cavernario, Negro Casas, Dragón Lee, Sansón, Soberano Jr., Forastero, Guerrero Maya Jr., Virus, Titán, Puma, The Panther, Tiger in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13	2017-10-13
good	Dalys © vs Princesa Sugehit for the CMLL World Women’s Championship	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09	2017-10-09
good	Esfinge, Pegasso, Stigma vs Cuatrero, Sansón, Virus	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09	2017-10-09
good	Sexy Star vs Taya [last luchador standing]	Lucha Underground: 2017-10-11	2016-06-26
good	Drago, Pindar, Vìbora © vs Dante Fox, Killshot, the Mack[LU TRIOS]	Lucha Underground: 2017-10-11	2016-06-26
good	Son of Havoc vs Pentagón Dark in a ladder match and [Gift of the Gods]	Lucha Underground: 2017-10-11	2016-06-25

Other things recorded

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
ok	Drago vs Aerostar, La Parka, Mocho Cota Jr., Carta Brava Jr. [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]	AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07	2017-09-23
ok	Monsther Clown vs Murder Clown, Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Marty The Moth [Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament semifinal match	AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07	2017-09-23
ok	Súper Fly vs Averno, Chessman, Australian Suicide, Argenis [Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament semifinal match	AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07	2017-09-23
ok	Texano Jr. vs Hijo del Fantasma, Eddie Edwards, James Storm, EC3 [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]	AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07	2017-09-23
ok	Astro & Meyer vs Joker & Sombra Diabólika	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09	2017-10-09
ok	Centella Roja & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Inquisidor & Rey Apocalipsis	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09	2017-10-09
ok	Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Hechicero, Luciferno, Mephisto	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09	2017-10-09
ok	Euforia, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero vs Rush, Sam Adonis, Terrible in a relevos increíbles match	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09	2017-10-09
ok	Bengala & Flyer vs Apocalipsis & Artillero	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10	2017-10-10
ok	La Vaquerita, Lady Maravilla, Marcela vs La Comandante, Metálica, Tiffany	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10	2017-10-10
ok	Rey Cometa vs Pólvora in a lightning match	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10	2017-10-10
ok	Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Máscara Año 2000, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10	2017-10-10
ok	Cavernario, Felino, Terrible vs Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10	2017-10-10
ok	Drone & Esfinge vs Cancerbero & Raziel	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13	2017-10-13
ok	Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Luciferno, Rey Bucanero	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13	2017-10-13
ok	Diamante Azul, Kráneo, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Rush, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13	2017-10-13
below average	Valiente vs Pierroth in a lightning match	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13	2017-10-13
not rated	Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10	2017-10-10
watch later	Flyer, Magnus, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Robin, Star Jr.vs Esfinge, Explosivo, Mágico, Omar Brunetti, Star Black, Vaquero Jr. in a cibernetico match	CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-10-07	2017-10-03

• 09/30 AAA
• 10/02 CMLL Puebla
• 10/03 CMLL Mexico
• 10/04 Lucha Underground (3×38)
• 10/06 CMLL Claro
• 2017 watch later part 7

I posted this at a reasonable rate of speed. Can’t imagine that’ll last. Soberano/Cavernario and Fenix/Marty were both really watchable in doing very different matches (though ones that exactly fitted the current style of their promotion.)

MOTYC is updated.

Recommended matches

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
great	Soberano Jr. © vs Cavernario for the Mexican National Welterweight Championship	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-02	2017-10-02
great	Fénix vs Marty The Moth for the hair and for the mask	Lucha Underground: 2017-10-04	2016-06-25
good	Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Tiger in a lightning match	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-03	2017-10-03
good	Valiente vs Hechicero in a lightning match	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-06	2017-10-06
good	Dragón Lee, Mistico, Soberano Jr. vs Luciferno, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-06	2017-10-06

Other matches watched

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
ok	Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs EC3 & James Storm	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-30	2017-09-04
ok	Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Rey Escorpión	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-30	2017-09-04
ok	Princesa Sugehit & Sanely vs Dalys & Zeuxis	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-02	2017-10-02
ok	Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Stigma vs Cuatrero, Sansón, Virus	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-02	2017-10-02
ok	Euforia, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero vs Flip Gordon, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-02	2017-10-02
ok	Eléctrico & Último Dragóncito vs Fantasy & Pequeño Olímpico	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-03	2017-10-03
ok	La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-03	2017-10-03
ok	Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino, Pólvora	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-03	2017-10-03
ok	Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Euforia, Gran Guerrero	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-03	2017-10-03
ok	Paul London vs Saltador, Mala Suerte, Argenis, Cortez Castro, Son Of Madness, Vinnie Massaro, the Mack, Joey Ryan, Ricky Mundo, PJ Black, Máscarita Sagrada, Pimpinela Escarlata in a battle royal match	Lucha Underground: 2017-10-04	2016-06-25
ok	Ivelisse vs Catrina	Lucha Underground: 2017-10-04	2016-06-25
ok	Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Vangellys	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-06	2017-10-06
ok	Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis in a relevos increíbles match	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-06	2017-10-06
ok	Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Último Guerrero	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-06	2017-10-06
below average	Mini Psycho Clown © vs Dinastía for the AAA World Minis Championship	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-30	2017-09-04
below average	Astral, Pegasso, Starman vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Templario	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-03	2017-10-03
below average	Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-06	2017-10-06
not rated	Arkalis, Black Tiger, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial, Policeman	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-02	2017-10-02
not rated	Lestat, Príncipe Diamante, Star Jr. vs El Malayo, Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar	CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-02	2017-10-02

the last short week

• 09/23 AAA (TV)
• 09/23 AAA (Twitch)
• 09/27 LU

No one try to top Killshot/Dante Fox. I probably need to make a separate Twitch label if AAA runs it again. This is my 11,000 post as I write it. That’s a large number.

Recommended Matches

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
excellent	Killshot vs Dante Fox [Hell of War]	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-27	2016-06-25
great	Drago vs Marty The Moth, Texano, Australian Suicide[Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament final match	AAA PPV: 2017-09-23	2017-09-23
good	Ángel Mortal Jr., Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr. vs Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Solaris	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-23	2017-09-04

Other matches watched

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
ok	Big Mami vs Ayako Hamada, Faby Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani in a Number One Contenders Match match and in a AAA’s Reina de Reinas Tournament match	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-23	2017-09-04
ok	Argenis, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-23	2017-09-04
ok	Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-23	2017-09-04
ok	Drago vs Aerostar, La Parka, Mocho Cota Jr., Carta Brava Jr.[Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]	AAA PPV: 2017-09-23	2017-09-23
ok	Monsther Clown vs Murder Clown, Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Marty The Moth [Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament semifinal match	AAA PPV: 2017-09-23	2017-09-23
ok	Súper Fly vs Averno, Chessman, Australian Suicide, Argenis[Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament semifinal match	AAA PPV: 2017-09-23	2017-09-23
ok	Texano Jr. vs Hijo del Fantasma, Eddie Edwards, James Storm, EC3 [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]	AAA PPV: 2017-09-23	2017-09-23
ok	Lady Shani vs La Hiedra	AAA PPV: 2017-09-23	2017-09-23
ok	Psycho Clown & Rey Escorpión vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Pagano	AAA PPV: 2017-09-23	2017-09-23
ok	Dr. Wagner Jr. & Famous B vs Texano	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-27	2016-06-25

• 09/16 CMLL iPPV
• 09/18 CMLL Puebla
• 09/19 Lucha Underground 3×36 (“The Rise of the Ring Announcer”)

The rule is no extra recap on a week where I have to do something extra live (or when I’m drastically behind.) I think Niebal Roja/Gran Guerrero was the better of the two matches but there wasn’t a big difference.

Recommended matches

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
great	Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis for the mask	CMLL iPPV: 2017-09-16	2017-09-16
great	Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero for the mask	CMLL iPPV: 2017-09-16	2017-09-16
good	Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora	CMLL iPPV: 2017-09-16	2017-09-16
good	Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón	CMLL iPPV: 2017-09-16	2017-09-16
good	Skayde & X-Fly vs Huracán Ramírez Jr. & Tritón	Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-09-17	2017-09-17
good	Discovery, El Hijo Del Santo, Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Dr. Cerebro, Súper Crazy, Yakuza	Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-09-17	2017-09-17
good	Dante Fox vs Texano	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-20	2016-06-12
good	Mariposa & Marty Martinez vs Fénix & Melissa Santos	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-20	2016-06-12
good	Pentagón Dark & Son of Havoc vs Paul London, Mala Suerte, Saltador, Drago, Cortez Castro [Gift of the Gods]	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-20	2016-06-12

Other matches watched

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
ok	Kráneo, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas	CMLL iPPV: 2017-09-16	2017-09-16
ok	Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero	CMLL iPPV: 2017-09-16	2017-09-16
ok	Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, La Comandante, Zeuxis	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-18	2017-09-18
ok	Esfinge, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-18	2017-09-18
ok	Carístico, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. vs Kojima, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-18	2017-09-18
ok	Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-18	2017-09-18
not rated	Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja vs Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-18	2017-09-18
not rated	Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno vs Disturbio & King Jaguar	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-18	2017-09-18

This week

• 09/11 CMLL Puebla
• 09/12 CMLL Martes
• 09/13 Lucha Underground (3×35, “Cien”)
• plus the bonus 06/23 The Crash review thanks to your pledges on Patreon my personal insanity

The CMLL Anniversary show, which seems ages ago now, was a Saturday show so it’s part of next week’s group of matches. This AAA TV week was the first of two on TripleMania and I’ve already done those (and haven’t added them to TV chart yet.)

As I’m writing this, 1AM on Monday, I’ve caught up with all the TV, just short one more indie catch up post. It’s not a lot to catch up with, given how many shows were not around, or had recaps I’ve already posted. It goes roundup->recap->roundup->recap->roundup this week, if I can bother to finish things off.

My MOTYC list is updated. I’ve relying heavily on Rob’s list and this list to find interesting Mexican indie matches I’ve forgotten, so you should check them out too.

Recommended Matches

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
great	Billy Star & DJZ vs Penta el 0M & Rey Fénix (US)and Gringo Loco & Skayde Jr.	Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-09-10	2017-09-10
good	El Gallito & Microman vs Chamuel & Mije	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12	2017-09-12
good	Pentagón Dark vs Dragón Azteca Jr. [Aztec Medallion]	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-13	2016-06-12
good	Matanza vs Rey Mysterio Jr.	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-13	2016-06-12

Other stuff watched

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
ok	Golden Dragón & Slayer vs La Máscara & Máximo	Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-09-10	2017-09-10
ok	Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Vangellys	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11	2017-09-11
ok	Ángel de Oro, Kráneo, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Johnny Idol in a relevos increíbles match	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11	2017-09-11
ok	Carístico, Octagón, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Negro Casas	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11	2017-09-11
ok	Retro & Sangre Imperial vs Templario & Yago	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12	2017-09-12
ok	Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Luciferno, Tiger, Virus	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12	2017-09-12
ok	Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Shocker	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12	2017-09-12
ok	Cage, Fénix, Prince Puma, Sexy Star vs Johnny Mundo, Marty Martinez, PJ Black, Taya	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-13	2016-06-12
not rated	Centella Roja, Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer vs Ares, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11	2017-09-11
not rated	Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Disturbio, Espanto Jr., King Jaguar	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11	2017-09-11
not rated	La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Metálica	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12	2017-09-12
not rated	Drone, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12	2017-09-12

• 09/02 AAA
• 09/04 CMLL Puebla
• 09/05 CMLL Mexico
• 09/06 Lucha Undeground 3×34
• 09/08 CMLL Claro
• watch later part 6

So far behind. I didn’t have any urgency to watch much when nothing else was happening, and really didn’t have much interest either. It’s not far from here to be caught up.

Recommended Matches

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
good	The Panther vs Misterioso Jr. in a lightning match	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-05	2017-09-05
good	Drago vs the Mack [Aztec Medallion]	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-06	2016-06-12
good	Cortez Castro vs Joey Ryan [police brawl] and [Aztec medallion]	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-06	2016-06-12
good	Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-08	2017-09-08

Other matches watched

rating	matches	TV Show	taped
ok	Big Mami vs Lady Shani, Goya Kong, La Hiedra in a AAA’s Reina de Reinas Tournament match and in a Number One Contenders Match match	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-02	2017-07-27
ok	Pagano & Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Mesías	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-02	2017-07-27
ok	Black Tiger, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-04	2017-09-04
ok	Asturiano, París, Último Dragóncito vs Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-04	2017-09-04
ok	Ángel de Oro, Drone, Soberano Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-04	2017-09-04
ok	Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Valiente vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Sam Adonis	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-04	2017-09-04
ok	Mistico, Octagón, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Último Guerrero	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-04	2017-09-04
ok	Fiero & Magia Blanca vs Espíritu Negro & Grako	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-05	2017-09-05
ok	Drone, Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Forastero, Nitro	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-05	2017-09-05
ok	Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-05	2017-09-05
ok	Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Johnny Idol vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-05	2017-09-05
ok	Carístico, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Terrible	CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-05	2017-09-05
ok	Matanza vs Paul London, Mala Suerte, Saltador	Lucha Underground: 2017-09-06	2016-06-12
ok	Astral & Oro Jr. vs Akuma & Espanto Jr.	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-08	2017-09-08
ok	Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Puma, Tiger, Virus	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-08	2017-09-08
ok	Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-08	2017-09-08
ok	Titán vs Rey Bucanero in a lightning match	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-08	2017-09-08
below average	Angélico vs Joe Lider	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-02	2017-07-27
below average	Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Pierroth, Rush	CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-08	2017-09-08
not rated	Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker	AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-02	2017-07-27
watch later	Villano III Jr. vs Imposible	IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-09-04	2017-09-03
watch later	Bombero Infernal vs Eterno for the hair	IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-09-04	2017-09-03