CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-03-13 


Recapped: 03/23/2018


Mercurio & Pequeño Violencia beat Angelito & Fantasy
(12:09 [5:38, 2:24, 4:07], 2/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Nitro, Raziel beat Eléctrico, Robin, Sensei 
(12:04 [5:08, 3:27, 3:29], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther beat Kawato San, Puma, Tiger
(12:53 [5:16, 4:54, 2:43], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto beat Stuka Jr., Titán, Tritón
(10:55 [3:52, 4:51, 2:12], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Máscara Año 2000 beat La Bestia Del Ring
(8:14, 1/3, below average, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Mascara step over tirabuzon (2:57)

  2. La Bestia del Ring crab with ropes (3:22)

  3. Mascara crab with ropes (1:55)

Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr., Valiente beat Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(11:01 [2:55, 3:13, 4:53], 1/3 DQ, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Angelito destroyed by a chop

Cancerbero was Mascara’s second and Nitro was Bestia’s second, as the rest of the Munoz family was all in Guadalajara. Nitro interfered much more flagrantly than usual for a second in a CMLL match and was eventually tossed from the match. Bestia used the middle rope on a crab to win the second fall. Mascara did the same in the third fall, though Bestia tapped out before Mascara could grab the ropes it on.

Mascara gestured for Bestia to stay near the ring so he can do a promo bit post match. Bestia instead waited a half second before walking to the back, and he’s gone by the time Mascara gets the microphone to tease future match ups.

Triton suffered a minor knee injury in the second fall of the fourth match, which sidelines him and derails the match. The second fall ends with Triton being counted out instead of them just pinning Titan, which came off as weird. Triton came back in the third fall to set up the planned finish, Mephisto giving Titan a super Devil’s Wings onto to Triton after a shoulderbreaker.


Tiger clears house

Poor Soberano and Cavenario were having an interesting mat battle to open the match and Niebla running across the ring to slap Marco put an end to that. They worked well together and should have a good match. Soberano and Casas had a nice section right before the finish too. The crowd reacted loudest to Marco and Niebla’s antics, and it was the usual Tuesday match worked for the audience.

The singles was no good and you shouldn’t watch it. It was bad for the clumsily slow reasons you’d expect, and for Bestia messing up the really easy finish of “not taping until Mascara does the thing”. The high points of the match were Mascara doing a good job selling being totally overwhelmed by Bestia (until he wasn’t) and Nitro’s towel trip looking good. I wonder if Nitro was supposed to get more involved than he did; the commissioner seemed unhappy about what was going on enough to stand on the ramp and glare until he was sure Nitro was gone and Mascara wouldn’t throw another beer.

The fourth match doesn’t work out due to Triton’s injury. They can’t cover for it well and cut it short. It wasn’t really going great before it either; the first fall includes the rudos forgetting to trip up Stuka as he bounces off the ropes, only Stuka stops and turns around like it happened anyway. The crowd really got on them for that, and they were only bailed out by Titan quickly and impressively winning the fall right after. Titan’s Titanics headscissors on Mephisto got the other big reaction of the match

The tercera was the better version of the usual Puma/Tiger/Panthers match, with a strong surge in the last moments and a good pace the whole way. Kawato is now an average luchador. He knew how to do the missed elbow drop spot, he can do a senton (though maybe not accurately), he doesn’t feel lost. He also doesn’t feel special. The crowd connection isn’t there yet, and neither is the fire that made him stand out. That’s tougher on the rudo side and he’s still making improvements, I’m just not sure what the finished product is going to look like yet. He’s also not going to make it to being a finished product if he doesn’t turn to catch dives.

CMLL Martes de Glamour: 2018-03-06

Rush & Kraneo

Recapped: 03/19/2018


Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro beat Stukita & Último Dragóncito
(11:42 [5:15, 2:49, 3:38], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Flyer, Magnus, Príncipe Diamante beat Metálico, Príncipe Odín Jr., Sangre Azteca
(12:56 [5:22, 2:33, 5:01], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Hijo del Signo beat Arkángel de la Muerte in a lightning match
(7:40, nudo Signo, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
(10:36 [3:36, 1:47, 5:13], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther Jr., Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(15:15 [4:08, 3:27, 7:40], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Gran Guerrero, Marco Corleone, Máscara Año 2000 vs Kráneo, La Bestia del Ring, Rush in a relevos increíbles match
(7:54 [2:41, 5:13], 1/2 DQ, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Stukita cool mat work of the day

Pierroth is now known as La Bestia del Ring, though they go back and forth using each name. Mascara 2000 fouled Bestia for no real reason and it set up a singles match next week.


The semimain was a usual match that was up and down. Soberano was trying to do too much and it wasn’t working for him. Soberano’s stage dive tornillo looked nice, didn’t really fit in at all in the match. Luciferno totally missed catching him on his dive at the end of the match, and Soberano had two headscissors go wrong. His dive on the end of the match went right.


Drone looked fine in his return, clearly having been training during his secret suspension. He wasn’t going to break out anything new in the fourth match of a Tuesday show, but he didn’t feel like he had lost a step. The first two falls of that match were slow and it didn’t really pick up in the third to make it work seeking out. You could use your time in worse ways.

I didn’t pay enough attention to Signo/Arkangel, but they seemed to be wrestling the standard two dives big spots match lightning despite being the wrong guys to do that match. I’m not sure there is a winning strategy to Signo/Arkangel though.

I wouldn’t normally watch the segunda, but I haven’t checked in on these guys in a while and there wasn’t a lot appetizing on this show. The announcers were very excited for Metalico’s judo takedown on Principe Diamante and not much more. Metalico seemed the best of the rudos, which is not saying much. Principe Odin Jr. seemed to be trying to cut down his running to the times where it’s absolutely necessary and was content to walk from spot to spot. His near gear looks good, probably just because it’s new.


CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-02-27 


Templario is very good

Recapped: 03/12/2018


Acero & Aéreo beat Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Universo 2000
(12:07 [5:00, 3:36, 3:31], 2/3, n/r, via

Astral, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante beat Akuma, El Coyote, Príncipe Odín Jr.
(13:33 [6:29, 2:48, 4:16], 2/3, n/r, via

Cancerbero, Raziel, Templario beat Pegasso, Star Jr., Stigma 
(15:06 [7:50, 2:39, 4:37], 1/3, ok, via

Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Flyer in a lightning match
(7:03, German suplex, good, via

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. beat Kawato San, Luciferno, Pólvora
(15:23 [6:55, 2:45, 5:43], 2/3, ok, via

Gran Guerrero, Marco Corleone, Máscara Año 2000 vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match
(9:18 [4:30, 4:48], 1/2 DQ, n/r, via

What happened: 

Pierroth fouled Mascara 2000 in the second fall to start a feud.



Templario & Star Jr.

I’m probably not giving the semimain enough credit; they were working hard and yet I found it hard to pay attention to. Stuka, one very much into doing the same moves in every match, broke out the handspring he doesn’t do a lot and a sort of DDT I can’t recall him using. Kawato is still taken aback every time he gets to win a fall. His kicks were better, his headscissors looked good, he probably should be a técnico. Niebla Roja is way over with this crowd.

Guerrero Maya is going to be a Blue Panther-ish rudo at some point in his CMLL career. It’d be ideal if it was sooner rather than latter. This lightning match felt like a small preview of why that chance would make sense. Maya wasn’t a rudo here, and it was broadly a técnico/técnico match where both guys dived. It also was Maya out wrestling and out smarting the more acrobatic flyer, all the way to the quick and nifty German suplex finish. Maya assisted Flyer to maybe his best singles match ever, guiding him thru some good mat wrestling portions and kept the match interesting throughout. This felt like a more complete match than I’d expect Flyer to have in this spot, which makes it intriguing what Maya might due with others.

Star Jr. looked great with Templario in the third fall of the tercera. Everyone looked good in the third fall of the match, which really moved compared to the first two falls.

Maya teaches Flyer a lesson

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-02-20 

Panther might have become a little predictable

Recapped: 03/06/2018


Acero & Aéreo beat  Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia
(13:37 [6:31, 4:18, 2:48], 2/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Metálico, Raziel beat Magnus, Metatrón, Sensei 
(11:01 [4:49, 2:44, 3:28], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat Amapola, La Comandante, Reyna Isis
(14:55 [7:26, 7:29], straight falls, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Pólvora beat Tiger in a lightning match
(9:07, Super Polvora Driver, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther beat Johnny Idol, Mephisto, Okumura
(12:14 [3:32, 3:34, 5:08], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Diamante Azul, Mistico, Valiente beat  Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(12:14 [3:32, 3:34, 5:08], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

In the women’s match, Amapola was disqualified for excessive violence in the second fall, including refusing a choke. That’s it.


sometimes you need to see something badly to appreciate how hard it is to do well

Último Guerrero whiffed on the Mistico ramp catch spot, which hasn’t been seen much of late. Maybe he’s out of practice. The crowd did not care at all. That’s the Tuesday/Friday difference. This was a Msitico showcase match in the way they haven’ been doing them for a while and the crowd ate it up. No one else continued a lot. It still was better than most Tuesday night main events.

Blue Panther got his annual win via farmer’s roll. Johnny Idol winning with a springboard dropkick on someone who was being held seems more unlikely, the rudos always fail in that situation. Mephisto tripping The Panther up on this springboard dropkick was a nice reverse on a usual bit. This wasn’t a memorable matches except those few spots. It was ok enough for a Tuesday.

The lightning match felt into the pattern of guys just taking turning doing moves. Tiger was nominally the técnico during the match, but Pólvora actually seemed to get the reaction and neither had a strong role in the match. There was no real story besides how’s turn it was, and the moves weren’t done fast or impressive enough to be memorable. These matches should be opportunity do something different, but they usually come off sameish.

Mistico headscissors

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-01-30 

Audaz even makes Tirantes mark out

Recapped: 02/16/2018


Shockercito & Stukita  beat Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
(12:06 [5:24, 3:03, 3:39], 2/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca beat Flyer, Magia Blanca, Magnus  
(10:31 [4:35, 2:25, 3:31], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Audaz, Fuego, Tritón beat Cancerbero, Nitro, Raziel
(16:05 [7:18, 5:19, 3:28], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Tiger beat Disturbio in a lightning match
(5:47, casita, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ephesto, Luciferno, Pólvora beat Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr.
(13:09 [4:55, 3:07, 5:07], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Rush beat Cuatrero, Shocker, Terrible
(8:42 [4:06, 4:36], 1/2 DQ, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Cuatrero & Angel de Oro feuded in the main event.


sliding is tough when you’re 50

The main event was mostly the Angel de Oro/Cuatrero build up. They played it up well, though it still feels manufactured. Angel de Oro blocking the foul only for Cuatrero to unmask him was cute. Rush seemed to have more fun teaming with Dragon Lee than he does even with Pierroth. I think I would enjoy them as mismatched tag team champions.

The semimain had both the pump armbar spot and the star, so they were really into old lucha libre bits. More than half the luchadors were wrestling in t-shirts, which is a bit more modern. The match was the sort of usual offense exhibition you’d expect from both of those situations, plus Stuka trying to do a death valley driver on Luciferno on the apron for some reason.

Rush and Mini Rush

Tiger and Disturbio went better than Puma and Disturbio, but it still felt like a random collection of moves and sequences with no order or meaning. The moves were performed well, the dive looked nice, Tiger slightly played técnico, I didn’t understand why Mije was there.

The third match was better than it looked on paperp Audaz worked with Raziel in the open, Cancerbero in the second fall, and had Tirantes marking out for him. The grumpy guys were noticeable less grumpy this match, but very noticeably not ambushing Audaz like they might otherwise do to a novato. They did drop Triton on his head and Audaz took the piledriver so not everything can work out Nitro being be unable to do the corner slide out spot seems like a really big neon sign he shouldn’t be doing this any more. The third fall wasn’t much but playing with Fuego’s mask so I wouldn’t recommend the match in total. It is a good sign if Audaz is having a good night even with the guys.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-01-23 

look at how much the mat does not move

Recapped: 02/11/2018


Shockercito & Stukita beat Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
(12:29 [6:37, 2:32, 3:20], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Sanely beat La Comandante, Metálica, Tiffany
(15:26 [8:19, 3:16, 3:51], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Sangre Azteca, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr. beat Magia Blanca, Pegasso, Stigma
(12:50 [5:21, 3:37, 3:52], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Hechicero, Pólvora, Shocker beat Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Tritón
(16:24 [4:55, 3:10, 8:19], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto © beat Titán to keep the CMLL World Welterweight Championship
(18:24, 1/3, excellent, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mr. Niebla, Pierroth, Rey Bucanero beat Guerrero Maya Jr., Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr.
(11:37 [2:46, 2:17, 6:34], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:


Nothing except Mephisto keeping his title


wrong way Cometa figures it out on the second try

Mephisto versus Titan is as good a title match which will happen in Arena Mexico all year. The Volador matches may be more spectacular, but titan brings more of an exciting rollercoaster to his matches. It’s not just the big moves, though there are absolutely big moves in this one. It’s the fast small moves, the submissions that might actually, the back and forth counters and escapes. Titan big title matches are full of drama that’s not just limited two-and-a-half counts. It starts off strong, with Mephisto surprisingly cutting off a normal opening fall sequence to Titan in a submission. It did feel like a fall blown thru because they don’t really want to do three falls, it felt like Mephisto made a smart move and forced the match to end early.

That also made Titan as the underdog for the rest of the match, both on the scoreboard and just from getting pummeled for the next half of the second fall, and rallying back from a deficit is where he excells. He’s also gotten really good at pulling the fans into his matches. The crowd was way into this match from the double dive spot on since it came so fast and spectacularly, but he still worked at rallying them as he was going for his (doomed) headscissors of the apron. It doesn’t feel forced, it feels like he desperately needs that support.

maybe the waving gave away his plan

I thought they went back and forth in interesting ways, not just relying on the big kickouts to get a reaction. It was smart to not just do the Super Devil’s Wings the first chance they had, because it made Mephisto actually connecting on it the second time feel even more sure as a match ender. Titan got something out of it even if he didn’t last much longer. I don’t think Mephisto added a lot besides doing his signature moves a few times and being in the right place, but that’s all he needed to do with Titan. This is an easy recommendation.

Titan is the coolest


The fourth match featured Rey Cometa looking the wrong way in a group pose and Shocker & Hechicero having a mid match rock/paper/scissors contest (both went scissors on the first try, Shocker won with paper over rock on the second), so it was not the most serious affair. It was pretty fun CMLL filler, with Triton capable of doing some incredible things. Hechicero set up Shocker’s spear to look great in the end. Cometa is full on committed to being a goofball at all moments – his wacky dance was one thing, but he also exited the ring by laying on the middle rope and falling over to the apron.

Triton is impossible

The tercera was better than usual. There were a few moments of awkward waiting but the pace was really good otherwise. All that teaming with the Panthers has taught Pegasso that the key to happiness is doing a lot of topes in a row, a lesson he tried to pass to his partners here. Magia Blanca suffered a lot in this match. He’s also as good or better than Universo Junior. Universo is greatly benefiting from his name and height at the moment.

the ramp is softer?

The women’s match had a hilarious bad ending to the second fall, where Metalica went up top for the flip senton only to find Tiffany had pulled Silueta too far away to do it and just decided to do nothing. Marcela is wearing gear with “CTFRM” on it and I don’t know what that means.

Tiffany pulls Silueta too far away, Metalica decides she can’t do her senton. The next minute is them arguing with each other and Edgar about who’s fault it was. At least they care!

The opener wasn’t far off the better Friday minis match, for better or worse. The crowd wasn’t much into it at first, but Stukita put on a good performance and Shockercito was trying.


CMLL Mexico de Nuevo Valores: 2018-01-16 

this one moves in all three dimensions

Recapped: 02/06/2018


Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia beat Acero & Aéreo
(14:56 [6:19, 4:43, 3:54], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Sanely beat Dalys, Metálica, Reyna Isis
(13:53 [6:37, 3:11, 4:05], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Magia Blanca, Pegasso, Starman beat Nitro, Templario, Virus
(14:49 [7:34, 3:10, 4:05], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Johnny Idol, Sam Adonis, Vangellys beat Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther  
(9:35 [0:20, 4:30, 4:45], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Stuka Jr., Titán, Valiente beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(12:26 [5:41, 2:01, 4:44], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico beat Euforia
(14:44, 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Euforica Special (1:58)

  2. Carístico springboard huracanrana (1:10)

  3. La Carística (11:36)

What happened:

Templario tossing Magia Blanca around

Titan pinned Mephisto twice, setting up a title match challenge.

Adonis & Idol are beat in the first fall within seconds, cradles from behind while they’re waving their flags.


Titan off the stage

The main event turned into a lengthy Carístico exhibition. Euforia works better in these spots in some ways because he hasn’t had a chance to do them with smaller guys and feels fresher. He also hasn’t won any of these, which meant they did a lot of nice near falls and the only people buying Euforia having a chance of winning on any of them were the announcers. Carístico getting increasingly frustrated with Tirantes being Tirantes is a nice hidden subplot. It doesn’t feel he’s as much selling the physical punishment of each near fall as he is selling the emotional toll of a referee who just won’t count like normal people. He pulled off the moves too, but that was a more storytelling than the rest of the match had.

The semimain was not super interesting out of Titan getting the surprise pins to set up his title match, and even then the surprise was a bit too much for CMLL’s cameras. They missed his second fall win except for the count, then nearly missed him diving off the stage while showing a relay of that. Stuka & Valiente were taking it easy and the other rudos didn’t stand out.

Typically, a quick first fall will led to the time redistributed elsewhere. This time, it just led to a quick overall match that never really developed. The Panthers ripping the wig off Sam Adonis and then immediately getting dropped for the loss was a bit deflating. It was fine while it lasted, it just didn’t really last long.

Templario matches feel like must watch ones at the moment. One spot with him and Magia Blanca goes badly near the end, though the slightly save that one, and Templario makes an even bigger save for the finish. Templario’s doing springboard dropkicks and then taking headscissors from behind, he is up for doing anything at this point. Pegasso and Nitro both wrestling Superman logos was not great, but Pegasso trying to do a casadora armdrag to send Nitro thru the ropes was worse, Nitro stood no chance of making it thru the ropes.

Euforia makes it look easy

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-01-09 

strange things

Recapped: 02/05/2018


Magia Blanca & Retro beat Akuma & Yago
(10:24 [4:35, 2:31, 3:18], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Drone, Fuego, Star Jr. beat Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
(12:40 [6:40, 2:44, 3:16], 2/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Puma beat Disturbio in a lightning match
(4:13, casita, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Rey Cometa
(11:46 [5:13, 1:55, 4:38], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dragón Lee, Rush, Soberano Jr. beat Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
(9:35 [1:45, 3:23, 4:27], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Carístico, Volador Jr. beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(6:27 [3:15, 3:12], 1/2 DQ, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

pobre Yago

This is the final show before FantasticaMania for many of the people on this show, with them heading to the airport after this show. The average match quality is down from usual as a result, with luchadors trying to primarily stay in one piece before getting on a plane a few hours later. Euforia and Carístico aren’t going anywhere, so they feud in the main event to set up a singles match next week.

Drone’s match turns out to be his last Arena Mexico match for time being. He’s currently suspended for an indefinite amount of time following wrestling in no condition to perform in Japan.


this doesn’t work

Assuming everything progress on like we’d expect, there’s going to be a lot of NGD vs Dragon Lee/Soberano matches in the future, and this was a little preview of that. Little because it didn’t even crack ten minutes, yet the young guys showed promising chemistry. Rush seemed to even be into the match at times. It makes me think Rush’s ideal promotion might have been Leyendas Inmortales, where he could’ve just brawled with old men in main events constantly. The Mr. Jack match would’ve been something.

The Axis of Evil have some rougher moments with some of the tecnico spots, but get enough of that matches like the fourth match can hold together. Johnny Idol has found his calling as guy who losses in poses to Niebla Roja. He’s an easily dislikable dork on many occasions in that match. The técnicos are smooth like always, but there’s not a lot going on.

The opener very much felt like a rookie match, though in a way that’s or interesting than most of the openers. Retro is awkward as ever, but at least seems to have a decent amount of offense now. Yago is hero or a fool for taking Retro’s cutter. Akuma and Magia Blanca seem to have some chemistry, showing some emotion against each other. Both of Magia Blanca’s finishes looked poor though.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-12-12 

one of many times where I’ve wondered what Idol is doing

Recapped: 12/18-19/2017


Bengala & Sonic vs Espíritu Negro & Yago
10:07 [4:57, 3:37, 1:33], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca beat Flyer, Magnus, Príncipe Diamante
(18:00 [10:10, 3:04, 4:46], 1/3, below average, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus beat  Fuego, Oro Jr., Starman 
(5:57 [2:48, 3:09], 1 DQ/2, ok, via

Misterioso Jr. beat Tiger in a lightning match
(7:36, Gori Bomb, ok, via

Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr., Titán beat Cavernario, Shocker, Vangellys
(12:33 [4:36, 5:11, 2:46], 1/3, ok, via

Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis beat Dragón Lee, Valiente, Volador Jr.  
(11:15 [2:54, 2:27, 5:54], 1/3, ok, via

What happened: 

Shocker’s back is broken

Misterioso took Tiger’s mask after their match.

Rudos (w/Mije) attacked the técnicos at the start. Tecnicos rallied and Starman unmasked Raziel for the DQ. Of note, Starman gets Raziel with his finish in the third fall but Raziel kicks out, then beats Starman with a powerbomb for the win.

I tried watching a Sangre Azteca/Arkangel match to see if Flyer or Magnus did anything cool and I really should’ve known better. I apologize to all the people I’ve let down by masking this mistake. Magnus’ uppercut is coming along anyway.


Magnus’ uppercut is really coming along

I wasn’t convinced the Sky Team/foreigners feud would work, but they showed enough here that it might turn out pretty OK. To be fair, this was helped a lot by Dragon Lee being a ball of energy and I’m not sure Mistico would be the same, but the rudos were able to keep up with enough action to feel like a big match. Johnny Idol is the weak link, still making mistakes on the rudos side. Maybe he’ll get better yet, but right now he just comes off as lucky there wasn’t another foreigner around when they needed a third. Dragon Lee is a good guy to have around if you want to get over a DDT as a finish. Okumura taking the hanging bump off the double stomp onto his head/neck didn’t seem to as great an idea (and he turned a lot so his shoulder would take it.)

Semimain was the usual Marco Corleone match. Titan and Cavenario getting each other’s face makes me sad we’re not getting that direct match much any more. Shocker was doing a lot of comedy reactions in this match, which is something he’s still pretty good at.

Tiger played the role of generic técnico in his lightning match. He did it fine, his tornillo was cool, and I was pleasantly surprised by the ‘rana off the top. It’s just tough to get much interesting out of Misterioso in a singles match, and this was no different. Apparently Misterioso’s finish is the most deadly in the world because he doesn’t need to do much prior to it.

Tiger tornillo

The tercera was just a short match to push the feuding guys. They’re really sending hints that Starman is about to lose here, and it’s weird to have Starman be in any story at all. Oro does know he’s feuding with these guys at this point, but this was just about getting to the two finishes.

The opener ended super quick into the third fall, with Sonic seemingly coming down badly on a flip powerbomb escape and Yago quickly covering him to get him out there. It didn’t seem that serious, and I would’ve like to see what Yago could’ve done with more time if gotten the opportunity. He continues to look quietly good, if lacking the spectacular moves of Templario. He got himself a bodyscissors submission hold, a great improvement over his old finish.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-12-05 

the entire section ducks and still gets drenched

Recapped: 12/13/2017


El Coyote & Espanto Jr. beat Retro & Sangre Imperial
(14:22 [8:15, 2:45, 3:22], 1/3. below average,

Fiero, Oro Jr., Starman beat Hijo del Signo, Nitro, Raziel
(7:31 [2:24, 5:07], 1 DQ/2 DQ, ok, via

Fuego, Pegasso, Stigma vs Disturbio, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr.
(12:05 [3:22, 2:43, 6:00], 2/3, ok, via

Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(12:47 [4:31, 4:20, 3:56], 1/3, good, via

Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis beat Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr.
(15:10 [5:09, 2:58, 7:03], 1/3, good, via

Último Guerrero beat Rush
(10:04, 2/3, good, via

  1. Rush corner dropkick (2:03)

  2. Pulpo Guerrero (3:48)

  3. UG pin with ropes (4:13)

What happened: 

Pegasso’s dive is now Fiero’s

This is the debut of the Adonis/Idol/Okumura trio, which seems to be a set unit and an important deal going forward. Rudos challenge for a trios title match, which they’re not getting yet even though the técnicos are all for it.

Mije hangs out with Universo for that match. Someone should give Mije a cowboy hat so he can just be a Dinamita until Kraneo returns from his home planet.

Rudos jump Starman on the way to the ring, which seemed to come as a surprise to the edecanes. Rudos are disqualified for excessive violence on Starman in the first, and for a Nitro foul on Starman in the second. Rudos destroy técnicos after the match.


wait, Tiger can do that without Puma?

Último Guerrero/Rush was the better match of the two, the one where it felt like the put in some genuine effort, and still nothing close to what I think a top match between these two could be. I’m convinced they’re facing off at FantasticaMania, and I’m just as convinced they’re going to have a much better match than what we saw in these two days. When the guys at the top don’t seem to be that into it, it’s not a surprise there’s so much filler here.

The new rudo trio did well for their debut match. They’re playing more more heel than the other groups, which gives these matches have a much different feel than the more fast paced spot trios match that preceded it. It was also just nice to see Sky Team working together and doing the fun things we got to see regularly when CMLL remembered these guys were an interesting act. Like last week, this match featured a Valiente and someone getting completely lost near the end but they brought it home OK.

The fourth was an easy good match, close to great. It’s very much what I’ve liked about the NGD trios this year, with a strong and interested group of técnicos working with them. NGD are not just better at teamwork, but better at setting up their opponents. It wasn’t just a reversed whip or a missed corner charge that gave the técnicos their last chance, but their deadly triple corner strike that backfired. I also think what CMLL is doing with Niebla Roja is working based on the reaction he got in this mach. Fans are taking to him in the same way as Marco Corleone, and it doesn’t seem like it’ll take that long for him to be as popular as the sort of similar Hijo del Fantasma, which would’ve been a huge reach at the start of the year. I’m not sure Niebla Roja is going to deliver the same peak matches, but it’s good for him anyway.

Coyote’s suplex is nice

The tercera was much better than the two that preceded, if only because the third fall really picked up in speed an intensity. They also found time to let Mije do something, instead of looking disinterested like his recent appearances. Disturbio seems like a guy who’s trying very hard to get in a groove before FantasticaMania (where he’ll wrestle 7 minute openers, but still.) I am slowly figuring out things Universo Jr. does: a sit down double knee drop, not put his arms out to catch on a dive.

I totally forgot Nitro was actually in the cage match until he fouled Starman to end their match. I guess this match is a good thing. Fiero had a nice 15 seconds round and everyone feuded to build up a show that’s happening on a different day. This was successful if not super memorable.

The opener seemed slower paced than usual. Retro doesn’t move fast, and the rudos were not in a hurry to pick up the pace. Coyote has a couple of nice spots but needs to be in a good match. Maybe he’ll get that chance in 2018.

Forastero is out of here