CMLL Martes: 2019-07-02

down goes Edgar

Recapped: 07/02/2019


Retro & Sangre Imperial beat Akuma & Rider
(11:41 [5:22, 3:22, 2:57], 2/3, ok,

Dalys, Metálica, Reyna Isis beat La Jarochita, Marcela, Sanely
(11:19 [6:39, 1:54, 2:46], 2/3, n/r,

Misterioso Jr. beat Universo 2000 Jr. in a lightning match
(7:15, ok,

Hechicero, Kawato San, Vangellys beat Blue Panther, Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr.
(14:32 [6:15, 3:36, 4:41], 2/3, ok,

Atlantis, Flyer, Stuka Jr. beat Felino, Mephisto, Templario
(10:43 [4:30, 2:34, 3:39], 2/3, ok,

Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Dragón Lee beat Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(10:33 [2:02, 2:27, 6:04], 2/3 DQ, ok,

What happened:

Felino finds out which leg is the bad leg

Cavernario fouled Dragon Lee, setting up a singles match for the following week.

Rider debuted.


Cavernario and Dragon Lee were so fired up to fight each other for the random build up trios match. It gave me great hope for the title match, even with them not breaking out the biggest moves. It’s not just another Tuesday when they face. Casas & Angel de Oro, a long forgotten rivalry, showed they still had good chemistry here as well. This was still mostly about an effective build to next week’s match.

It is painful to watch Atlantis painfully limp around the ring. He was struggling to move on this show so much that I was hoping he was going from the show to the operating room for more surgery. Not sure that can actually be fixed but it feels like he’s reached the point in his decline where that match with Villano IV can’t actually happen without being sad.


Rider wins?

Guerrero Maya & Hechicero are beautiful wrestling together. I guess it would get old if they just faced each other all the time, but CMLL should try it much more than they do just to find out. Kawato seems to have gotten more confident after winning the super light championship, or at least is putting out that aura. The top rope double stomp still looks bad. Vangellys stealong Arez’s finish from Robin remains hilarious. It needs to get continue to be stolen by about two more people up the chain before it makes it to a relevant match.

Universo decided to wrestle his lightning match with his straps down. It was not an ideal look for him. As he stood visibly gassed in the ring, I reflected on how his cousins all seem to be in great shape and are pushed hard and Universo is neither. Misterioso is no cardio monster himself but was clearly carrying Universo thru the last few minutes. Universo is not terrible but he’s clearly established himself as a guy who is in CMLL because his family was in CMLL.

Rider fit in CMLL immediately as yet another bland luchador. He seems competent and he was willing to take tecnico offense but he didn’t show much. It is not recommended to make your big spot of your debut match “taking a suplex”, that doesn’t help you much. If you’re reading this back ten years from now and Rider is a star, it definitely wasn’t obvious he was going to be one someday. He was just a guy. I think he’s better than Retro, but Retro has size so he’s likely going to get a chance at some point. Rider didn’t show a standout attribute.

CMLL Mexico: 2019-06-25


Recapped: 06/25-26/2019


Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico beat Acero & Aéreo
(14:17 [4:47, 5:26, 4:04], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Nitro, Raziel beat Magnus, Retro, Robin
(16:09 [6:43, 3:20, 6:06], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Súper Astro Jr. beat Halcón Suriano Jr. in a lightning match
(8:30, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Pólvora, Vangellys, Virus beat Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego
(12:58 [5:02, 3:29, 4:27], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Felino, Hechicero, Templario beat Audaz, Flyer, Rey Cometa
(15:11 [5:26, 4:29, 5:16], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Místico, Soberano Jr., Valiente
(12:42 [3:08, 5:00, 4:34], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:



this GIF isn’t for the botch but how annoyed Hechicero is about it

Mistico is the new king of Tuesday tourist shows. People like him there. They booed NGD. There wasn’t many of them but it is a very safe space for the gold and silver prince and maybe they’d like to take advantage of it. He jumped right into the finish instead. Oh well. This was otherwise the usual Tuesday night special, enough highspots for the casuals while not doing anything you haven’t seen before.

The semi-final was off a little bit at moments, especially early on, that kept it from being a match I’d recommend. It still felt better than the usual CMLL match, with Hechicero & Audaz particularly showing what they can do when they get a chance. It wasn’t one of the stronger Templario performances, notable being way out of position on a spot that mad Hechicero look bad (and he couldn’t hide how upset he was about it.) I wish Cometa’s new look came with a few new spots.

The lightning match had a good flow until the first big dive, then it kind of lost momentum a bit with Super Astro taking a header. There were some beautiful spots, but the match felt like it was drifting back and forth with no big impact. Astro’s tope was cool but really weirdly set up by Halcon doing a neck crank over the ropes to set it up. Both guys had good spots like that, more so for Halcon, it just didn’t feel complete. I’d like to see them against a rudo opponent in the same situation.

Good for Acero & Aereo for getting somewhat matching gear. They’ve progressed as a team by having dozens of this match. Acero is still better of the two but any progression is nice. If only it could go somewhere.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2019-05-21

Star Jr. tornillo

Recapped: 05/29/19


Leono & Sonic beat El Coyote & Grako
14:18 [5:58, 3:20, 5:00], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Halcón Suriano Jr., Magia Blanca, Oro Jr. beat Disturbio, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca
13:05 [5:22, 2:52, 4:51], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Star Jr. and Sagrado went to a draw in a lightning match
(10:00, good,

Blue Panther, El Audaz, Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Pólvora, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr.
14:03 [4:53, 3:41, 5:29], 1/3, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Flyer, Kráneo, Rey Cometa beat Hechicero, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero
12:44 [5:53, 2:15, 4:36], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Niebla Roja in a relevos increíbles match
15:07 [2:13, 3:43, 9:11], 2/3 DQ, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Halcon Suriano is quick to holds as well

Los Ingobernables were DQed for excessive violence in the first fall of the main event. Rush faked a foul in the third fall to draw the win and set up a singles match for next week.

Star Jr. & Sagrado went to a time limit draw. Sagrado blocked a moonsault about twenty seconds before the time limit, then covered Star Jr. just as time expired. Star Jr. still immediately kicked out. Sagrado unmasked and powerbombed Star Jr. well after the time limit.


The main event was not actively bad, but it was also pretty much a nothing match. Los Ingobernables weren’t strongly into the match and Atlantis was involved, so this wasn’t going to be much. The first two falls weren’t much, the third fall was long without being interesting and with a bad ending.

Audaz flip rana

I am often hard on Audaz. I think it’s the cross-promotion comparisons; the AAA young flyers are having good/great matches fairly often and Audaz is in a lot of forgettable matches. The AAA high flyers are also working with great bases, while Audaz did a flip rana onto to Universo 2000 Jr. here. There’s got to be some allotment for degree of difficulty. Tiger was much more Audaz’s speed and those two have the best chemistry together. Maya & Panther seemed to take a step back to let Audaz do his stuff, and his stuff looked as good as it ever has here. The finish was neat, a smart reversal that only happens with Blue Demon. This was much better than a usual Tuesday match, and it was no surprise they were still picking up money while the next match came out.

The lightning match was Star Jr.’s best match in sometime. His big dives, both to the ramp and to the floor, looked out of control and yet really cool. Sagrado kept up with Star Jr.’s offense well while still looking sharp in his own moments. There were a couple of good near endings near the end, especially the Spanish Fly that could’ve ended it. The match ending indecisively with no plan to follow up is disappointing, but a standalone good lightning match is still a good lightning match.

Is Sonic the new Camaleon or the new Fresbee? He’s better than the openers but he’s small so he’s never escaping them (or being booked more than twice a month), so I guess it comes down to him forming his own lucha libre promotion or not.

CMLL Mexico: 2019-02-05


Recapped: 02/06/2019


Inquisidor & Príncipe Odín Jr. beat Bengala & Sangre Imperial 
(14:32 [5:34, 4:18, 4:40], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Amapola, Dalys, Metálica beat Kaho Kobayashi, La Jarochita, Lluvia
(11:14 [6:03, 5:11], 1/2, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Sagrado beat Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma 
(16:58 [5:55, 3:33, 7:30], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Audaz beat Tiger in a lightning match
(7:01, code red, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther, Flyer, Titán beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Vangellys
(11:40 [4:04, 2:21, 5:15], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cavernario, Euforia, Terrible beat Kráneo, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr.
(9:43 [3:41, 1:56, 4:06], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Nothing. I mean, the rudas won their match in straight falls, that’s close to something.


this is Tuesday execution

I gave up on the semi-main when Vangellys missed his wheel kick to Flyer badly. First fall was all Ephesto/Blue Panther maestro mat work, they came back to it at the end and they might as well just do the match. Flyer is using armbars as finishes now but his flying to finish the match went fine.

Tiger/Audaz was an easy fun short match, the sort, the kind we expect Audaz to have all the time and that Tiger doesn’t get to have. Tiger gave Audaz a lot, both in taking his tricky moves but allowing Audaz to survive his bigger spots. The backcracker is usually the end in Audaz matches, so Audaz kicking out meant something to Tiger even if the crowd didn’t seem to recognize it. Audaz never looked inexperienced and some of that credit has to go to Tiger. Even the early wrestling section was a bit creative. This is his strongest singles outing in recent memory and hopefully gets another chance against a young flyer.

The creative effort was up in the tercera, but there were a number of spots that didn’t look well, and the end of the second fall was messed up by Tirantes being in his own world. It is hard to find the urgency to try new things when you don’t get great support at it and it’s simpler just to do the same things over and over even if it is boring. This paragraph is aware enough to know that it appears in a CMLL b-show review.

CMLL Mexico: 2018-09-11 

getting so many hits from a Metalico GIF

Recapped: 09/25/2018


Cancerbero, Metálico, Nitro beat Magnus, Robin, Star Jr.
(11:54 [7:30, 4:24], 1/2, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Kawato San, Okumura, Tiger beat Fuego, Pegasso, Stigma
(13:47 [4:41, 3:09, 5:57], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Shocker beat Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr.
(11:57 [5:46, 2:21, 3:50], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Kráneo, Valiente beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(9:51 [3:57, 3:36, 2:18], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Volador Jr. beat Cavernario
(>4:00, 1?/2 DQ, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

The Mexico men’s soccer team was playing a game against this show. It might be responsible for CMLL forgetting to stream the opener, and for the segunda going two falls for no other reason.

The stream also goes out during the first fall of the main event, joining in the second fall (though it’s not at all clear a fall break has been missed until the match is over.)


I watched the main event just so I could give an OK and write these words, because it’s going to be weird to have a streamed Volador/Cavernario match without a rating. There’s no reason to watch this one – I’m rating it OK primarily so I don’t have to recall why I didn’t rate it – because Volador is doing almost nothing and the match is messed up pretty badly by the stream dying. There’s no circumstance where a good match would’ve come out of matching these two guys up days before their Aniversario match, and this exists as a testament to the weaknesses of CMLL’s booking.

The rest of the card was usually Tuesday filler. I watched most of the show that aired and yet don’t have it me to do match reviews. The Fuego match was the most classical fan friendly easy Tuesday match, a borderline good match where everyone worked hard in usual midcard fashion. Blue Panther tried to switch it up a little bit during his match, and it was more distracting than creative this week. Also distracting was Dragon Rojo deciding he needed to start wearing white face point. The semi-main was aggressively nothing, as was the Nitro match.

maybe not the only move Volador did but it seemed that way

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-07-17 

Sanson backbreaker pwoerbomb

Recapped: 07/18/2018


Angelito & Fantasy beat Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
(15:30 [8:10, 3:18, 4:02], 2/3, n/r, via

Cancerbero, Metálico, Sangre Azteca beat Astral, Eléctrico, Robin  
(12:52 [5:54, 2:24, 4:34], 1/3, n/r, via

El Audaz, Fuego, Pegasso beat Disturbio, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr.
(14:35 [5:38, 2:36, 6:21], 2/3, ok, via

Ephesto, Luciferno, Templario beat Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr.
(16:17 [7:12, 2:54, 6:11], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Niebla Roja © vs Sansón for the CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship
(19:33, 1/3, great, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Niebla Roja reverse campana (4:43)
  2. Sansón backbreaker (2:02)
  3. Niebla Roja super Furia Roja (12:48)

Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Soberano Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Rey Bucanero
(8:04 [1:38, 2:55, 3:31], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

this is done a lot but still cool

Niebla Roja retained his title, the second streaming title defense in two days.

The rudos were awful in the segunda, with Metalico blowing an Eléctrico spot on the floor, and Sangre Azteca just deciding not go for a Robin armdrag. These matches are unpleasant to watch, sand I’m watching as little of it as I can.

Angelito nearly dies in the opener because Pequeño Violencia doesn’t bother to get both his arms up to catch him and cannot catch a man tossed to him with one arm. He limped thru the third fall, eliminated without really getting in offense. 


great effort

The main event was the usual rushed post-title match Tuesday main event trios. Though, of now, I’m thinking they prefer to be in this spot than have the title match last so they can get out with a quick match. A lot of this match was Rey Bucanero taking bumps scared of Atlantis, who was not taking bumps but did pull off a huracanrana in the end. Soberano meshed well with the Dinamitas as always, and they did get in some spectacular moves in the short time this match lasted.

Niebla Roja & Sansón had a much superior match to their two brothers on Monday. They seem like they’re much more adept at singles matches. They have deeper reservoirs of offense to pull from, instead of just the same stuff we see in trios matches without their partners. They also can make those moves feel like they’re more important; Sansón freaking out as he was about to be finished was a nice touch a lot of people in CMLL don’t do in general. These two guys got the crowd by building to bigger and bigger moments and keeping the crowd guessing. There’s are parts where they could improve – chop exchanges are probably overdone, but these guys could’ve used some other than an impact move or a dive to mix it up some – but this was a lot of fun and worth going back to watch.

I thought Black Panther did some reversal until Luciferno got the pin

I thought the Panther match had moments but was overall sloppier than usual. Luciferno seemed to mess up his own finishing move among other moments where people had to take sudden left turns to get in position. Blue Panther & Ephesto had a basic mat wrestling over six minutes that didn’t go anywhere interesting, but it was better than Blue anther Jr. looking backward before deciding to bump. It’s not as bad as this is making it sound but it was definitely off a bit.

The tercera was borderline good on the Tuesday sliding scale, with good if unfocused action. Didn’t like one of the finish I like Disturbio. I enjoyed his Neymar comedy spot. I did not like him going to a double pin with Audaz. CMLL has decided Disturbio is not special and I do not want them to do the same to Audaz. This wasn’t Audaz’ most show match, but he still springboarding from angles not many are trying.

Audaz angles

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-07-03

lucha libre!

Recapped: 07/04/2018


Stukita & Último Dragóncito beat Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
(14:24 [7:49, 2:46, 3:49], 2/3, n/r, via

Akuma, Hijo del Signo, Metálico beat Astral, Eléctrico, Príncipe Diamante  
(14:18 [6:12, 4:06, 4:00], 1/3, bad, via

Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Sangre Azteca beat Drone, Fuego, Pegasso
(11:02 [5:03, 2:01, 3:58], 1/3, n/r, via

Audaz beat Universo 2000 Jr. in a lightning match
(6:34, springboard huracanrana, ok, via

Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto  
(12:17 [3:39, 2:39, 5:59], 1/3, ok, via

Ángel de Oro, Kráneo, Niebla Roja beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(13:37 [5:39, 2:43, 5:15], 2/3, good, via

What happened: 

Nothing really. Sansón pinned Niebla Roja in the main event, which might go somewhere but might not. Black Panther appears to have new music.


Black Panther swing kick

The main event was a usually efficient NGD/Chavez match, maybe a touch less their Friday matches but not so much less that the Tuesday crowd minded. Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja are getting good at figured out how to work in whatever partner they had that week, and the NGD showed more of their offense than they sometimes do on Tuesday. Cameras missed the shot of Mije getting kicked, when seems to defeat the point of him being kicked.

The semi-main was about the usual from the people involved, which satisfied the crowd on this night. They did a bit of a misdirection on the finish, which would’ve meant more to a crowd familiar with the rules. CMLL should probably be doing something with the Panthers already other than endless meaningless trios matches. Black Panther has figured out how to get reactions from Tuesday crowds pretty reliable and should be trying to master something else.

around the post

The lightning match won’t go into the Audaz highlight reel, but it was a good job of getting around Universo’s limitations. This match seemed both an admission he’s not ready for a singles match with a flyer, but that he or Audaz or whoever put this match together was smart enough to keep it simple for him. Audaz did his usual amount of rolls and flips, but never really needed Universo to be involved in them. He was going around and into the rudo, but Universo wasn’t called upon to do much basing in this match. They didn’t do the armbar finish, they went with a middle rope huracanrana instead (and Universo’s bump was mistimed.) Universo’s offense was a kept to a few things he does well and he looked strong even in a defeat. This could’ve been a disaster and was not.

The segunda had gotten notice as one of the worst matches in CMLL this year, so I decided to pay attention to it instead of the probably OK tercera. It lived up to the hype. Eléctrico and Metálico got totally lost in the first fall, staring at each other like rookies for an awkward amount of time. Astral fell jumping into the ring in the third fall and it didn’t get any better for him. It felt like the rudos decided just to go home early instead of dealing with him for a moment longer. I don’t know how much of Astral’s performance was the bad fall because he was not much better earlier. Akuma got to do two dropkicks and not a whole lot more. His third fall spots with Eléctrico were slow looking, though still the better moments of this match.

Suirano Suplex

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-05-29 

Panther topes may be why Kawato doesn’t like catching dives

Recapped: 06/07/2018


Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia beat Acero & Aéreo 
(15:56 [6:44, 3:51, 5:21], 1/3, n/r, via

Akuma, Hijo del Signo, Nitro beat Dick Riviere, Star Jr., Starman  
(12:14 [5:44, 2:25, 4:05], 1/3, ok, via

Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Kawato San, Pólvora
(16:28 [6:13, 3:02, 7:13], 2/3, ok, via

Fuego beat Virus in a lightning match
(5:47, La Guelaguetza, ok, via

Stuka Jr., Titán, Tritón beat Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno
(10:37 [2:38, 3:59, 4:00], 2/3, ok, via

Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas
(7:07 [2:44, 3:08, 1:15], 1/3, ok, via

What happened: 



Riviere moonsault

There was so much early técnico offense that I thought they were just going two falls. Instead, they were just going with some short falls, including a third that went barely a minute. The rudos got control just long enough to take the second fall. Volador & Valiente looked flashy in what they did but it’s not like they had time to do a lot. Atlantis being in no bumps mode is actually a good thing in this match, but Atlantis getting even worse at attempting for the Atlantida is the opposite of the good thing. Either Atlantis suffered another injury or they need to just make up an injury at this point to give him cover. This is probably not great news for Tiburon either, who’s going to have to be rushed to make it.

The semimain was the usual spots from the usual guys in a brief amount of time. CMLL técnicos need an alternative spot from the apron beside the diving headscissors, it’s happening in way too many matches. Luiciferno really took Titan down hard on the powerbomb at the end of the match.

this did not go well for Titan

Long ago, Fuego & Virus had a really fun match that involved Fuego going way out of his comfort zone and doing a lot of mat wrestling to start to set up the big ending later. This was not that match, this was more bog standard lightning match action, setting up dives and then doing a pinfall. Fuego’s way more over now so maybe it’s working for him. This still was an action match, fitting in a bit more than the time would indicate, but it felt like a smidge of what they could do.

The tercera match was better off for going thru a long third fall, and running thru a lot of nears falls to make the match a little more exciting. It was ordinary otherwise, with the highlight being Tirantes not counting the second pinfall because he thought the Panthers were going to lift up the rudos for a nudo lagunero submission instead. Kawato took the Panther reverse 619 kick as hard as anyone has so far, one of a couple times Panther ended up hitting him very hard..

The second match was only really notable for France’s Dick Riviere making a one off appearance. He’s a Nitro trainee, from his time in APC promotion, and looked better than usual for these low level guest appearance. It was a little rehearsed, but he pulled off everything he seemed asked to do fine. The dive even went ok, though it’s made it weird CMLL allows the guy with the least experience to do a dive and no one else. Star Jr. looked leagues better than everyone here and then slipped when going for his second fall moonsault. That’s how it goes sometimes and he moved on quick.

Virus slam

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-05-22 


Recapped: 05/27/2018


Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro beat Acero & Aéreo 
(13:15 [5:32, 3:22, 4:21], 2/3, n/r, via: 

Akuma, Espanto Jr., Nitro beat Magia Blanca, Retro, Star Jr.
(10:21 [4:53, 2:23, 3:05], 1/3, n/r, via: VideosOficialesCMLL)

Disturbio, Okumura, Virus beat Esfinge, Stigma, Tritón
(15:23 [6:30, 5:18, 3:35], 2/3, ok, via: VideosOficialesCMLL)

Felino, Hechicero, Shocker beat Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther
(11:44 [5:10, 3:09, 3:25], 2/3, ok, via: VideosOficialesCMLL)

Último Guerrero © beat Stuka Jr. for the NWA World Middleweight Championship
(16:20, 2/3, good, via: 

  1. Stuka hammerlock DDT (4:32)
  2. Último Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero (1:44)
  3. Último Guerrero crucifix cradle (10:04)

Atlantis, Carístico, Mistico beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(7:52 [1:52, 2:00, 4:00], 2/3, ok, via: 

What happened: 

almost enough

The sound is off for nearly the complete first fall of the fourth match.

Magia Blanca, a late fill in for Sensei, tears his ACL at the end of his second match. Akuma just happens to fall on the back of Blanca’s leg taking an armdrag on Akuma.



CMLL Tuesday main events following a singles matches are never great. This one was especially nothing for two falls, even though they got more time than usual for this spot. The end of the second fall had some of the most transparent rudo feeding for rudo moves you’ll ever see. Action picked up a little bit in the third fall, until Atlantis came in. He did just get Mephisto up in the Atlantida, so point for him.

The title match was a standard Último Guerrero big match, up until Stuka got his foot on the ropes on the Guerrero Special. It seems like he’s aware enough of everyone catching on to the same thing finish every time that it’s not the ending right now, but there was no strong twist or novelty to the match to that point. Último Guerrero didn’t go thru everything he could do, but it felt about the same as normal. The sequence after Stuka got his foot on the ropes was surprising and the match itself was well done. Beyond that finish, it’s going to be hard to separate this from all the other UG singles matches.

Triton versus everyone

Shocker pulling a middle rope elbow drop is more amazing then CMLL forgetting to turn the sound on. That happens all the time. That match wasn’t the greatest set up for the Panthers, though Hechicero seemed to have fun knocking Blue Sr. around. Felino seemed to be barely in the match, though it wasn’t much of a match to be in.

The tercera had the names from good matches but didn’t mesh in any way interesting. The match slowed way down with the rudos in charge, and the técnicos never made much of a comeback. Triton’s fish outfit doesn’t really work without the shirt. Okumura doesn’t really work as Triton’s base.


CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-05-08 

like old times

Recapped: 05/13/2018


Bengala & Leono beat Apocalipsis & Cholo
(11:05 [4:35, 3:07, 3:23], 2/3, n/r, via

Dalys, La Metálica, La Seductora beat La Guerrera, Lady Maravilla, Mistik
(14:39 [5:02, 4:44, 4:53], 2/3, ok, via

El Audaz, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa beat Puma, Sagrado, Virus
(14:57 [6:00, 3:16, 5:41], 2/3, great, via

Tiger beat Kawato San in a lightning match
(6:43, powerbomb, ok, via

Blue Panther, Kráneo, Soberano Jr. beat Okumura, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
(12:30 [4:40, 3:32, 4:18], 1/3, ok, via

Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. beat Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero  
(9:21 [2:36, 2:03, 4:42], 2/3 DQ, ok, via

What happened: 

Mistik’s celebrated a bit too soon

Último Guerrero & Stuka randomly started feuding to set up a title match in a couple weeks. UG unmasked Stuka at the end.


The main event was the standard building stuff with Stuka & UG, plus Diamante Azul doing strong people stuff. There was nothing special to the feud, except for UG calling the handwaving chants on himself after getting himself disqualified at the end. Atlantis did very little in this, and couldn’t take a bump when his time killing hold was broken up in the third fall. They didn’t pin him either, so he wouldn’t have to take that bump. At this point, I’m kind of left hoping he’s picked up a minor injury that he’s working his way thru, because there needs to a chance of an improvement at some point.

Audaz operates on a different set of physics

The lightning match was solid and no one died on a dive, though Tiger did his dive in a way where he landed on his feet about the same time he made impact. Tiger made sure he wouldn’t have to worry about being caught. Kawato showed more varied offense in this than has in his singles match and didn’t build towards the double stomp, so I can’t hate him. It was alright and that’s about what I expected.

The tercera was a cut above usual CMLL midcard matches. The guys involved are usually good, but they were totally clicking in this match. Audaz was unremarkable on Monday and totally impressive in this match better designed to show his talents; the first big evasion spot was amazing. No one else is doing the things like his middle rope springboard backwards into a sunset flip. Audaz does a cool dive here, which reminded me that he’s not really doing all that many dives yet – his big spots are in the ring, just using the ropes in crazy and fast ways. They’ve downplayed the Virus/Audaz stuff – even here, when Audaz submits Virus, it’s not treated as a big deal – but I hope they go back to it to at least give us one awesome. It wasn’t just him. Puma was nailing people with superkicks, and he and Rey Cometa had their usual great chemistry thru the match. Sagrado worked well as a rudo and a base, and Maya was efficient in what he did.
Always glad to have new people involved to learn more individual quirks and peculiarities, but can’t say I was impressed by the new women. Mystique has the flashier moves of the two, including lots of cartwheels, but also seemed like she was struggling the ropes. La Guerrera outright struggled in a couple of moments and didn’t show a personality. The double corner headstand spot was clearly supposed to be their big showcase moment, and instead came off as slow and clunky. Then they seemed lost for a moment on what to do that next. Metálica nailed Maravilla with a forearm in the second fall , one of those ones that remind me why she seemed interesting at first here. She hasn’t been great lately, in a group where not a lot of people are great. Maybe having some young girls to destroy will wake her up; she gave Guerrera a piledriver she’s not doing with the other women.

Tiger wins