CMLL on Marca: 2019-06-21


Recapped: 06/21/2019


Espíritu Negro & Hijo del Signo beat Robin & Súper Astro Jr.
(10:28 [4:38, 2:15, 3:35], 1/3, ok, 

Drone, Fuego, Tritón beat Disturbio, Tiger, Virus
(14:17 [5:24, 2:32, 6:21], 2/3, ok, 

Hechicero, Kawato San, Templario beat Audaz, Flyer, Soberano Jr.
(16:53 [4:41, 4:44, 7:28], 1/3, good,

Negro Casas beat Titán in a lightning match
(6:32, casita, ok,

Ciber the Main Man, Gilbert el Boricua, The Chris beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(13:11 [4:02, 2:03, 7:06], 1/3, below average,

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat La Bestia Del Ring & Rush to win Copa Dinastia
(21:15 [1:12, 6:12, 13:51], 2 DQ/3, ok, 

What happened:

better get your hands up

Copa Dinastia ended messily. Niebla Roja & Bestia del Ring were eliminated, leaving Angel de Oro & Rush. Rush gave Angel de Oro a martinete in front of referee Edgar, then go up and walked to the ropes near Niebla Roja. Oro recovered immediately to foul (also in front of the referee) and inside cradle Rush for the win. It appeared Bestia was supposed to have been involved in the finish and forgot, causing some (poor) improvising.

Earlier, Rush picked up the DQ in the second fall for bringing a video cable into the ring and hitting the Chavez brothers with it. Los Ingobernables losing a fall by DQ in a match they’re losing (so they only get pinned one) happens in every big match.

Ciber also used a foul to defeat Ultimo Guerrero in the semi-main. UG challenged for both a hair match and a trios rematch. Ciber seemed willing to do the trios match but wanted a title match before any hair match.

Triton & Tiger continued to feud, though Triton won cleanly with a 450 splash.

A new PSA was shown asking fans not to throw coins at the ring. Coins were thrown at the ring following the third match.


Audaz flies

A cold show outside of the third match. It took until the last moments of the main event for the crowd really to get into it. They dropped out of the Negro Casas/Titan match very quickly. Both Ciber/UG and Angel de Oro/Rush were slightly suggested as Aniversario main events. Both will need work to get people to care.

The work in the main event was interesting in how it was put together not to fail. They’d clearly run thru it before. Rush was still visibly coaching his father to get him thru it. He did so generally OK before the botched finish. It also felt like they dumbed down the match so much that what was left was unexciting. The Ingobernables controlled sections lacked excitement and creativity. The Chavez felt like they went a long time with getting in nothing outside of dives. This was not the disaster the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas match was. It was a competent match, just not a very interesting one.


The Chris & Gilbert were on such different pages on a double team move (well, at least one of them though it was a double team move) that it didn’t appear the semi-main was going to even be competent. The outside trio stuck with standing and punching for most of the rest of the time. It wasn’t impressive. The UG/Ciber direction is the UG/Mascara 2000 match feud brought back awfully quickly for something that didn’t seem to work the first time. Ciber can’t do much more than Chucho and would obviously have just as limited singles match if they get that far. Maybe they’d get by if these crowd cared about these guys, but the semi-main got as little reaction as anything all night. CMLL flaked out on the Guerreros/CL4N feud last year and one can only hope they’ll do so again.

Titan & Negro Casas lost the crowd during the match. I can’t really identify for sure why, but they were cheering loudly for Casas and then not really caring when Casas was doing things. The match went heavily back and forth where neither man got much momentum and ended quickly, but there’s plenty of lightning match that flowed a little better than this. Casas and Soberano have had better matches lately, so this was a disappointment.

the roll really makes it.

The guys in the third match went for it. It didn’t totally work but the effort was pretty outstanding. Audaz felt unleashed in a way that hasn’t been seen in a lot of his matches. Maybe it because Templario & Hechicero were around, but some of his riskier stuff was done with Kawato nearby. Soberano & Templario are good together but Soberano & Hechicero are great. Hechicero seems to break Soberano of his usual routines to include some creativity, including the excellent finish. Both third fall dive sequences were a lot of fun, especially Kawato & Flyer’s plunge to the floor. Flyer had his timing issues and Templario messed up his springboard dropkick; there were mistakes that could’ve been fixed here with another try. Hope they get it.

There was plenty of time for the segunda but it didn’t really come together. Tirton & Tiger seemed hotter last week. Tiger was about as enthusiastic about taking the first Triton stage dive as I was about watching the opener. At least him selling that made it seem less silly he was standing in place for the second one. Everyone else was fine but there was an energy missing from the match.

The opener was completely forgettable. Super Astro got out in one piece leading into the super lightweight cibernetico on Sunday, on the outside chance he gets to advance in the ring. He didn’t get to show as much as usual, everyone else did the same couple spots they do in every match.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-06-14

everyone lived

Recapped: 06/14/2019


Magia Blanca & Star Jr. beat Akuma & Espanto Jr.
(10:25 [3:50, 2:25, 4:10], 2/3, ok, 00:01:35)

Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Tritón beat Kawato San, Pólvora, Tiger
(10:52 [3:46, 7:06], 1/2 DQ, good, 00:19:02)

Atlantis Jr., Soberano Jr., Valiente beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Hijo del Villano III
(14:09 [3:58, 4:10, 6:01], 1/3, good, 00:39:45)

Euforia beat Rey Bucanero in a lightning match
(8:47, inside cradle, below average, 01:04:02)

The dumb battle royal lasted 1:24

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero & Último Guerrero in a Copa Dinastia quarterfinal
(5:51, ok, 01:24:02)

Dragón Lee & Místico beat Máscara Año 2000 & Sansón in a Copa Dinastia quarterfinal
(4:40, ok, 01:32:55)

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat Dragón Lee & Místico in a Copa Dinastia semifinal
(12:35, good, 01:40:15)

Austin Theory, Carístico, Volador Jr beat Cavernario, Negro Casas, Rush
(9:32 [2:06, 3:29, 3:57], 2/3, ok, 01:57:25)

What happened:

Sanson welcomes Dragon Lee back

Austin Theory won in his CMLL debut.

Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja advanced to the finals of Copa Dinastia. They will face Rush & La Bestia del Ring next week.

Tiger pulled Triton’s mask for a DQ in the second match. He then took Triton’s replacement mask too.

In post-match promos, Dragon Lee announced he was vacating the CMLL Lightweight Championship.


Rocket Soberano

This was a better show than the lineup suggested. Copa Dinastia was much better and the midcard matches delivered more than expected.

Austin Theory’s debut went well. He got in a few impressive moves, he got some air on his dropkicks and he stood out. This would’ve been the nice start to a month or two run, though I’m still skeptical we’ll even see him in CMLL again. Maybe it’ll encourage CMLL to continue to bring people in from The Crash. The match itself was definitely on the short side. It was for the best, a long match wouldn’t have worked as well after a length show and a heated match prior.

The Copa Dinastia seems to have been ill constructed. The Dragon Lee/Mistico vs Angel de Oro/Niebla Roja match came off as a worthy final, only instead the Chavez brothers are moving onto face the lesser Munoz team next week. Much like Soberano/Euforia last week, the Guerreros were ushered out in shockingly quick fashion. At least they lost to a better team. Mascara 2000 did not fit in at all in his match, making it a 2 on 1 often even before he was eliminated. Perhaps CMLL didn’t want to beat the Sanson/Cuatrero team (though the teams they did pin are just as protected), but sticking in Forastero or even Universo 2000 Jr. would’ve been an improvement.

The Chavez vs Munoz block final stood out enough that it’s worth a watch even outside of the context of the tournament. They attempted to wrestle tecnico/tecnico style, though the crowd surprisingly turned again the Chavez brothers a bit. Mistico & Dragon Lee again appeared to be a promising team when given a chance to wrestle as a pair. Both teams kept up the action thru a long match by tournament standards. Even if this couldn’t be the final for whatever they’re setting up next week, this would’ve been better as the first week of the tournament. Knowing Dragon Lee & Mistico couldn’t advance (because CMLL’s not going to book them against their father) hurt the drama tremendously for me. It didn’t seem to bug the crowd as much. They were into the show all night long, strongest during this match.

double team magic

Euforia/Bucanero was a mistake on paper that proved to be a bad idea in the ring. Rey Bucanero heroically did his semi-annual crazy dive early on to make this work. It was crazy and it also seemed to exhaust him for the rest of the match. Nothing went seriously wrong, this just moved at a snail’s pace compared to the rest of the show and felt like it lasted forever. I suspect this match was done to get both closer to their promised amount of bookings for a month, not because anyone thought it would be good. It just shows the problems of CMLL’s setup.

The reaction I saw on Twitter was a lot more enthusiastic about the tercera than I came away with it, so maybe I’m just off. I’m still not particularly impressed by the rookies and Valiente didn’t have an especially good night. Still, Soberano was great and this match came together as more of a group effort than anything else. This trios got significantly more time than the matches underneath it (and the ones after it) and squeezed in a lot more highspots for that time.

Tiger & Triton gave the segunda much more of a direction, unexpected as it was. (It was also a relief, given Kawato & Esfinge interacting a lot earlier in the match. I don’t rule that out totally.) Tiger continues to be in great form in this matches when give a chance to do something, though maybe he should be aiming higher than his post-show challenge for the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Championship. CMLL seemed to take the restrictions off the second match guys on this show. Cometa’s running Spanish Fly to the was nutty, even more so since Kawato was the guy taking it. Kawato’s kicks are looking good. Hope his knee is as well after that landing.

Espanto Jr. crotched himself on the finish of the opener, so business as usual there. The rest of the match had some good spots and slow speed into and out of them. The other three wrestlers all still show promise but don’t seem like they have any chance of developing here. Magia Blanca could really use a good indie booking for us to find out if he can do more than he’s shown in CMLL since returning from injury.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-06-07

Templario impresses

Recapped: 06/07/2019


El Coyote & Grako beat Eléctrico & Oro Jr.
(12:19 [4:36, 3:35, 4:08], 1/3, ok, 00:01:10)

Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr. beat Disturbio, Kawato San, Virus
(16:29 [6:22, 1:28, 8:39], 1/3, good, 00:21:22)

Audaz, Stuka Jr., Valiente beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero
(11:07 [3:44, 3:15, 4:08], 1/3, ok, 00:46:35)

Cavernario beat Templario in a lightning match
(9:45, Cavernaria, great, 01:06:19)

Gilbert el Boricua, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero beat Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja
(13:57 [5:22, 2:16, 6:19], 1/3, ok, 01:20:13)

The dumb battle royal went 1:24

Flyer & Volador Jr. beat Felino & Negro Casas in a Copa Dinastia quarterfinal
(6:34, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Bestia Del Ring & Rush beat Euforia & Soberano Jr. in a Copa Dinastia quarterfinal
(7:10, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Bestia Del Ring & Rush beat Flyer & Volador Jr. in a Copa Dinastia semifinal
(5:36, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

I don’t know why he went for a pin

Rush & La Bestia del Ring won this block of Copa Dinastia.

Kawato attacked Black Panther before their match officially started, but the feud wasn’t much of the match.


Copa Dinastia was worse the sum of the matches. Euforia & Soberano were the most interesting team and the most interested team and were dismissed after one match. Rush & Bestia treated this as a normal Tuesday match. Volador treated this like Puebla. They saw it as just another miscellaneous CMLL tournament not worth getting excited for, and a final with La Bestia del Ring does not seem like something many will be excited to see. All the matches were OK at best, but stopping watching this show at the Templario/Cavernario match is really best.

I came into this show more tired than usual and I’m not sure if that’s why the matches didn’t seem to connect with me than usual. The last trios match of the night was all the usual bigger match spots from these wrestlers but it felt more like going thru those motions than something that came together as exciting. Gilbert got re-established as a big guy who can slap around the likes of Angel de Oro, but just slipping him in place doing Guerrero team spots felt off. Ultimo Guerrero’s superpower to reverse everyone’s finisher into a cradle remains strong.

Panther tope

Templario & Cavernario turned into an unexpected dive exhibition for an extended part of the middle of the match. The dives looked really cool, Templario nailed his while coming like an inch from hitting his head on the apron. This was overall Templario’s best performance in one of these so far, showing good offense and feeding into Cavernario’s counters. The crowd loves Cavernario at this point and they should, and his way into the cavernaria at the end was excellent. They probably have a better match in them if they’re not rushing to get done in 10 minutes.

The third match didn’t come together fully. Audaz got in a slightly higher spot than usual and had a hard night. Some of it was his fault, some of it was the rudos not giving proper help, some of it was production not showing the moves well. It didn’t add up to a great presentation. He still got the win but it is not a positively memorable performance. The rudos weren’t great in general, though that is about what is expected out of them.

I didn’t think much of the Panther match for the first two falls, outside of Virus being awesome in submitting Blue Sr. quickly to win the second fall. (Blue Panther doesn’t protect himself much in the layout of these matches nowadays.) The third fall was a lot of fun, since Blue Panther Jr. has a lot of impressive looking power moves he can do now that are different from the rest of the show. I am not sure why Black Panther is doing a train horn pull motion before his dropkick but at least he’s doing something. This was the most effective the brothers have looked in a while.

The opener was a regular level match that went a little bit crazy in the last couple of minutes. The crowd had loudly turned on the match a fall and a half earlier and it didn’t win them back but the thought was nice. Too much people standing around waiting to get hit and Electricochecking behind himself before finishing a springboard. Grako doing an elbow drop to the floor and covering was great comedy.

Cavernario gets a reversal at the last second

CMLL on Marca: 2019-05-31 (Juicio Final)

one last moonsault for the road



Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa beat Disturbio, Kawato, Misterioso Jr.
(9:25 [5:30, 3:55], 1/2 DQ, good)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(12:19 [3:47, 2:50, 5:42], 2/3, ok)

Virus beat Metálico in a loser must retire
(20:25, motocicleta, excellent)

Amapola beat Kaho Kobayashi in a hair vs hair match
(9:58, 1/3, good)

  1. Amapola sort of Skayde Special (1:01)
  2. Kaho Kobayashi headscissors cradle (0:51)
  3. Amapola Devil’s Wings (8:06)

Euforia & Gran Guerrero beat Diamante Azul & Valiente © for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship
(13:24 [4:26, 1:56, 7:02], 2/3, ok)

Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr. beat Bárbaro Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(7:06 [1:23, 1:34, 4:09], 2/3, good)

Último Guerrero beat Máscara Año 2000, hair vs hair
(10:05 [0:47, 0:56, 8:22], 2/3, ok)

  1. DQ Mascara faked foul (0:47)
  2. Último Guerrero senton de la muerte (0:56)
  3. Último Guerrero inside cradle (8:23)

What happened:

wheelbarrow destruction

Disturbio interfered often to help Mascara Año 2000 as his second, including breaking up a Pulpo Guerrero with referee Edgar turned around. Gran Guerrero got into a fight with Disturbio after that one, causing both of them to be thrown out. A few moments later, all of the Dinamitas (Sansón, Cuatrero, Forastero, Universo 2000 Jr., and Hijo de Mascara Año 2000) came out as a referee distraction. Mascara Año 2000 tried to sneak in a foul kick, but Guerrero blocked it and easily cradled him for the win. The Dinamitas stormed the ring and attacked Guerrero. Security quickly got involved.

Gran Guerrero & Euforia won the tag titles from Diamante Azul & Valiente.

Kaho Kobayashi lost her hair to Amapola, than sat in the ring and got her hair cut.

Metalico’s career came to an end by losing to Virus.


maybe they need to rethink this spot

Many people on this card showed a lot more than was expected of them going in. Mascara Año 2000 was not one of them. The main event had tons of smoke and mirrors by CMLL standards, with Disturbio being as active as the guy he was seconding. Último Guerrero still forced in a few of his usual moves. Mascara 2000 tried, he just didn’t have much to add. This crowd was into everything, which kept this from ever feeling sad, but it wasn’t ever anything great. The post match seemed to tease a lot more to come, which would all have to be better than this match.

The semimain was unnecessary and rushed, but it was the easy fun match it was meant to be. The técnicos did their usual bits but looked sharp doing them. The crowd loved cheering for the rudos and booing Místico. It didn’t hit the peaks of other versions of this match, but it also never really had the time to do so.

Gran Guerrero & Euforia winning the tag team titles won’t be remembered as much, though it is a lot better to see them with the championships. Diamante Azul gave the effort of a man who was not happy to be losing the titles, and Valiente topes couldn’t make the match alone. Los Guerreros showed their usual good team work but didn’t have much to work with here. There’s potential for them to have a lot better opponents down the line. Most opponents will be better than this.

UG was making sure Mascara was going down

Amapola delivered her best performance in years in the hair match. The match wasn’t perfect – the first two falls seemed cut down as if a consequence of the long-running show. There were times where they seemed to be running out of gas; the battle to get the superplex stuck out. The superplex did look great when they got it to work, and the match had more exciting moments than it seemed like it would at first. The casual crowd wanted to boo Kaho, assuming the foreigner was the evil one as usual, but she kept winning them over with her offense and by coming close to a win. Kaho kept fighting back, even when she got demolished by Amapola’s toe con giro, and the image of her stoically taking the hair cut was memorable.

Virus & Metálico exceeded all expectations. The crowd completely bought into the gravity of the match from go, and both men lived up to the atmosphere. This might have been Metalico’s best match of his career and it goes right along the classics Virus has had. They took this very seriously, hitting each other very hard (and playing off the idea that there’s no way this was ending with a cheap DQ, so punches and questionably low shots were in play.) Virus had his usual bit of stunning reversals, while Metálico went deep in to playbook to pull out moves from him that we haven’t seen since he and Tigre Blanco were still a team. Both men seemed to slow down after the really hot first ten minutes, but they came back strong during the last moments of the match. I really liked Virus killing Metálico with big move after big move until it was finally enough, something completely different than how CMLL usually handles big matches. A lot of this felt different than the big CMLL matches and it;ll be reminded a lot longer for that reason.

The segunda had some cool spots, with the second fall finish coming off well. It lacked the urgency of the opener and felt more like people going thru the usual offense than doing something bigger. Soberano insisting on taking a destroyer in every match is actually good because we’ll be able to easily identify him actually learning something about wrestling when he finally stops doing it.

The opener was worked at a pace suggesting they had no time to mess around. I wish they always had no time to mess around because it produced a heavy action match. This was fully big show effort at work, with Kawato pulling out a dive as impressive as Misterioso actually doing the ring post spear spot to set up a Cometa one. The effort paid off well though, and they got the most out of this time. Kawato & Black Panther is definitely an idea, it remains to be seen if it is a good one.

this is when Kawato decided which Panther not to go after

CMLL on Marca: 2019-05-17

maybe Cometa telegraphed this

Recapped: 05/18/2019

This is definitely something I thought I posted weeks ago.


Akuma & Espanto Jr. beat Magia Blanca & Star Jr.
(11:33 [4:40, 3:29, 3:24], 2/3, ok,

Kaho Kobayashi, Marcela, Sanely beat Amapola, Metálica, Tiffany
(13:09 [5:34, 3:04, 4:31], 1/3, ok,

Felino, Hechicero, Tiger beat Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Tritón
(13:50 [5:08, 4:31, 4:11], 1/3, ok, 00:43:25)

Negro Casas beat Soberano Jr. in a lightning match
(8:43, casita, good,

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero beat Ephesto, Máscara Año 2000, Mephisto
(8:52 [2:35, 2:40, 3:37], 2/3 DQ, below average,

Cavernario, Cuatrero, Sansón beat Carístico, Místico, Valiente
(6:33 [1:54, 4:39], 1/2, below average,

What happened:


Cavernario cheated to beat Místico in the main event, setting up a singles match next week

Sansón & Cuatrero ran in to attack Último Guerrero when Mascara 2000 was in danger of being put in the Pulpo Guerrero.

Tiger beat both Triton and Esfinge to win, though that seemed partly because Hechicero got himself eliminated after suffering thru an injury. He wasn’t shown again.

Kaho hyped the hair match after her trios match.


this doesn’t seem fun

The main was totally disappointing, a sub 7-minute match with not the action to make up for the time. The técnico offense was nearly limited to the same Místico led dive run that happens in every match with him. They could’ve done a lot more and still gotten to the same ending and they instead ended with one of the quickest shows in recent memory. This wasn’t acceptable as a main event.

The semi-main was surprisingly not over for a feud scheduled to headline the next major CMLL show in two weeks. The crowd was way into the previous match but this didn’t do a thing for them. It didn’t do much for me either, with the Guerreros not doing any of their flying and the Hijos del Infienro not doing anything in particular. Mascara & UG have a wild brawling spot and not much more, and that wasn’t close to enough here.

Negro Casas did a lot more in the lightning match than normal and survived it better than Soberano. The Canadian Destroyer wasn’t needed, didn’t look good, and didn’t get the reaction the casita did, but everything else went well. The dive catch post spot looked brutal, as did the powerbomb Soberano almost lost him out, but that part enhanced the match. I wouldn’t have tried the fosberry flop dive on Negro Casas but Soberano trusted him and it worked out, like most of the match.

the timing here is pretty great

First two falls of the tercera were pretty hot. Not as much in the third fall to keep it that level. Maybe it was derailed a bit by Hechicero’s injury, though Tiger beating two técnicos made for a different ending than usual. Cometa was the best técnico easily.

The women’s match went a while, built towards big spots at the end and had a quick happy ending. No surprise the crowd liked it. It felt too similar to everything else I’m using to seeing from them for it really to stand out for me, but the effort was still strong. Kaho is likeable enough for the Mexico crowd not to just to root for the (evil) Mexican, which is pretty hard to do.

Magia Blanca was generally better working with Akuma this week than when he was with Espanto last week but still made some hysterically bad looking moves. The Silver King headscissors spot was a good try gone wrong. The first fall springboard headscissors was never going to work unless gravity was suddenly disabled. Everyone else was fine, Espanto wasn’t as horrendous as last week. It wasn’t boring.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-05-24

Mistico watching those NJPW matches

Recapped: 05/24/2019


Cancerbero & Raziel beat Magnus & Robin
(14:35 [5:16, 3:47, 5:32], 1/3, ok, 00:01:17)

Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego beat Kawato San, Misterioso Jr., Virus
(12:20 [5:11, 4:02, 3:07], 2/3, ok, 00:22:46)

Amapola, Dalys, Metálica beat Estrellita, Kaho Kobayashi, Princesa Sugehit
(10:17 [3:26, 2:02, 4:49], 1/3, ok, 00:44:46)

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Templario beat Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Valiente
(13:07 [4:19, 3:12, 5:36], 1/3, good, 01:03:34)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000 beat Felino, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
(10:26 [4:57, 5:29], 1/2, ok, 01:26:46)

Místico beat Cavernario
(19:21, 2 DQ/3, great, 01:49:02)

  1. Cavernario headscissors armtrap cradle (2:01)
  2. DQ Cavernario mask pull (3:05)
  3. Místico La Mistica (14:15)

What happened:

almost final Virus lightning submission win?

Gran Guerrero & Euforia (but strangely not Templario!) ran in to attack the Dinamitas in the second fall when they were triple teaming Último Guerrero. NGD were briefly unmasked. UG & Mascara went back and forth on the microphone after the fight was broken up.

Kaho & Amapola talked up their hair match after their trios match.


The main event delivered CMLL’s dream Místico match. He looked spectacular, nothing went wrong, and he was the cheered victorious hero in the end. This was the match they’ve been looking for him since the moment CMLL gave him the Místico character. It only took seven years to get here but it happened! Cavernario continued his all-world run by helping Místico look as clean as possible in between getting in his own devastating offense. I’m not sure we needed everything we got here, including the big splash at the end, but it did work to pull in a crowd that was lukewarm all night during the build-up for Juicio Final. They finally got something that was big in itself for this show, with both men making it feel big time with their performance. I think there’s another level here – Místico showed that he had enough offense from his big trios matches to have a big single matches but didn’t really go beyond the expected – but if this is as good as it gets, it’s still pretty good.

Soberano tornillo

The build to Último Guerrero versus Mascara Año 2000 is 30 seconds of standing and trading punches, which Mascara loses most of the time. I’m not really sure what that match is going to be. The match here wasn’t much but a set up for the run-in, Felino & Negro Casas existing to be taken out and vanishing during the post-match.

Nothing fancy to the fourth match, but it was a rare chance to see the non-UG Guerrero show they can work as well as a team without the big boss. The direct Euforia/Soberano match ups were kept few but Gran Guerrero & Templario did well basing for the younger person in that family. Stuka & Valiente stuck to the usual but pulled it off efficiently until they were destroyed at the end. This overall came together as a lesser version of the super flying técnico teams against the Guerreros, and that kind of just was what it was.

Kawato travels by air

The women’s match was just Amapola & Kaho feuding. It was good enough to make me believe next week’s match might be good, but not enough to make this week’s match good. It’s hard to imagine it going long and it probably would be best at a one fall match, but they did enough that maybe they can figure something out. Estrellita still has unlimited rights to do topes whenever she wants.

Virus submitted two técnicos in about thirty seconds of the first fall of the segunda, which seemed like a set up to an interesting bit of Virus domination leading into next week’s big retirement match. And then everything else wasn’t interesting and Virus ended up taking all the técnico finishes in the third fall. This was a slightly less exciting than usual segunda in the end and I’m not sure why.

The opener started with a regular Cancerbero match. They ran thru their offense to no great reaction, not that the técnicos were that interacting with the crowd that much either. Magadan yelling after the finish had more energy than this match, which was mostly executed fine but missing any spark.

Estrellita tope

CMLL on Marca: 2019-05-10

this goes badly for Mascara

Recapped: 05/10/2019


Magia Blanca & Stigma beat Espanto Jr. & Hijo del Signo
(13:18 [5:04, 2:57, 5:17], 2/3, bad, )

Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Kawato San, Pólvora, Vangellys
(14:10 [4:57, 4:13, 5:00], 1/3, ok, )

Kaho Kobayashi and Amapola went to a draw in a lightning match
(6:03, double count out of the ring, ok, )

Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Soberano Jr. beat Hijo del Villano III, Rey Bucanero, Villano IV
(13:03 [4:07, 4:47, 4:09], 1/3, ok, )

Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(8:11 [2:46, 5:25], 1/2, ok, )

Dragón Lee, Místico, Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(11:51 [4:06, 2:04, 5:41], 1/3, ok, )

What happened:

Both Kaho & Amapola and Mascara & Último Guerrero agreed to hair versus hair matches. No dates were set. Kaho & Amapola went to a double countout of the ring in their lightning match, while Mascara snuck in a foul on Ultimo Guerrero.


out of here

This was a skipable show, on the lines of a Tuesday show

The main event was a perfectly fine Tuesday main event to send people home happy which happened to be on a Friday. A dozen people could’ve been in Dragon Lee’s spot. The sequences with him and Negro Casas wouldn’t have been as good with most people but it wouldn’t have affected all that much. Mr. Niebla did some Mr. Niebla things (and got pinned in the middle of them) and everyone went around with their normal sequences. This was inoffensive and unmemorable.

If effort along can make the Mascara/Ultimo Guerrero feud work, they showed that effort in the brawling moment of this match. It’s the rest of the moments that aren’t good. They’re doing the sensible thing by putting Mascara over strong, but putting Mascara over strong can make for some boring matches by NGD standards. I don’t know if this can work, but it is working as well it could be expected.

The fourth match focused on the kids. Like the kids, it was fine but not spectacular. Hijo del Villano III has added so much weight so quickly that it is strange they didn’t have him do it before he debuted. It doesn’t seem to have hurt his performance, and he’s going to eventually win over people by doing salida de banderas. Atlantis Jr. had a few more flashy moves, though not as flashy as those who proceeded. There’s not really the spark in the rivarly between them, at least not in a way that got the fan’s interest. Soberano really has his trios offense run down, which is good that it gets over and not so good in that he’s not feeling a need to keep it fresh.

science proves Gran Guerrero has the hardest dropkick

The lightning match was strange. They got in big shots early, but they never got to near falls before the surprising double count out finish. Amapola’s spear on Kaho looks good but she doesn’t do a lot more. Both did have good energy but this didn’t really develop into anything. Maybe the hair match will be bigger.

The segunda was an improvement over the opener just for being a professional match. It was also mostly just a standard midcard match, right down to the stacked up superplex. Drone has new gear that looked good, Vangellys struggling to get over for La Guelaguetza did not look good.

The end of the first fall was so bad that the rudos were shaking their hands at it. The rudos won that fall. It didn’t get much better, with the rudos botching basing spots while still getting in their own offense. Espanto Jr. and Magia Blanca were a particularly bad combination. The finish was super flat, perhaps a cover for another messed up move.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-05-03

Brooks and Mechawolf

Recapped: 05/03/2019


Magnus & Oro Jr. beat Akuma & Grako
(12:28 [4:59, 2:49, 4:40], 2/3, ok, 00:01:13)

Avispa Dorada, Kaho Kobayashi, La Jarochita beat Amapola, Dalys, Reina Isis
(15:01 [6:59, 2:39, 5:23], 1/3, good, 00:21:23)

Soberano Jr. beat Mephisto in a lightning match
(6:33, guillotine moonsault, ok, 00:45:28)

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat Adam Brooks & Mecha Wolf 450
(22:58 [8:16, 3:14, 11:28], 2/3, great, 00:57:10)

Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(11:43 [4:48, 2:45, 4:10], 1/3, good, 01:30:50)

Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible
(12:22 [3:13, 1:53, 7:16], 1/3, good, 01:57:19)

What happened:

Gran Guerrero

Mascara got away with a foul on Último Guerrero. UG wants a hair match, but he and his partners were unmasked by the técnicos.

Terrible & Bestia are bald again for whatever reason. Los Ingobernables took a rare clean loss.

The fourth match was a The Crash vs CMLL special tag match.


The main event seemed set up to be a quick match with a typically screwy Los Ingobernables finish. Instead, the rudos worked surprisingly hard in the third fall. Rush had a great sequence with Volador, Terrible does the giant swing much better than Vangellys, and La Bestia del Ring did nothing La Bestia-like. They let the técnicos look great too. This was close to something you might expect with the flyers and Los Guerreros than Los Ingobernables. I have no idea why they did it this way, but it worked.

The latest edition of the flying Guerreros was fun until Euforia’s misaimed tope ended the party. I prefer to see Euforia catching people rather than being caught, but this was one of the better matches of their matches playing against type. The NGD worked well with them and Mascara 2000 seems motivated by the decision to give him another feud. This was about as good as this match up could be. Mascara/UG seems not a good use of anyone’s time to me but they got the crowd to care.

a tough way to bite your lip

The CMLL versus The Crash guys may have been the names people were hoping for but it was the match the show needed. This felt different than normal CMLL, and much different than what a normal fourth match in this position. It was the best or cleanest match. The first fall was a bit dry and there were moments where Brooks and his opponents (and occasionally his partner) didn’t seem familiar enough with each other to be on the same page. It got a lot better over the last two falls, with the effort from guest wrestlers once again driving the CMLL wrestlers to raise their own game to match them. This had the Canadian Destroyer on the apron level of violence not usually seen in Arena Mexico (at least when Dragon Lee isn’t around.) It also had something as basic as a tease of a countout and someone sliding back in 19 to keep fighting, something that’s so routine to be a cliché elsewhere and totally unheard of here. (Earlier in the night, the 20 count was taken so much for granted that the opener was treated like it was over while the referee was still counting. That made this bit seem even more surprising.) I liked Adam Brooks more than I had after seeing him in PWG and this was a really good night for MechaWolf. CMLL teased the idea of this being the beginning of a series of matches. It is tough to believe them – The Crash doesn’t lose the first match if there are real plans – but this demonstrated the reason to do to this sort of thing. It may not necessarily need to be these two guys, but adding people on short term basis has frequently helped CMLL to be better over the last few years.

Soberano went his whole match without doing a tornillo but Mephisto went his whole match without doing much of anything so it worked out. Soberano looked great with everything else, though it felt flat because it was one-sided. Mephisto’s big spot was a powerbomb on the floor that was more about Soberano’s flip and a Canadian Destroyer that was also about Soberano’s flip. He did a lot of flips.


The women’s match didn’t totally work for me but still felt like one of the better ones of this year. Kaho was moving faster than any woman in CMLL in recent memory and hitting her spots well. She seems very into this feud, and Amapola looked the best so far in this feud. Avispa’s new dive looked great and I was amazed it was caught well. Dalys wiped out Jarochita too, and this match moved pretty well. The action just doesn’t impress me as much as other matches but the effort was there.

Opener seemed like it could be good at full intensity. It had something less than that. It wasn’t actively bad but they moved around as if it was the rehearsal match rather than the normal one at times. Rudos too a lot of the match in uninteresting ways as well, with only the Oro headscissors at the end sticking out.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-04-26


Recapped: 04/26/2019


El Coyote & Grako beat Sonic & Súper Astro Jr.
(15:23 [6:55, 3:20, 5:08], 1/3, ok)

Kaho Kobayashi, Marcela, Tae Honma beat Amapola, La Comandante, La Seductora
(10:32 [6:16, 4:16], 1/2 DQ, below average)

Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Tritón beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(9:51 [4:56, 1:30, 3:25], 2/3, ok, )

Valiente beat Hechicero in a lightning match
(9:24, Valiente legtrap armbar, good)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000 beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr.
(18:32 [5:33, 5:22, 7:37], 2/3, good)

Bárbaro Cavernario & Titán beat Último Guerrero & Volador Jr. in the Torneo Increible de Parejas final
(23:03 [5:59, 2:42, 14:22], 2/3, great)

What happened:

Titan & Barbaro Cavernario won the tournament. Volador & Último Guerrero had problems late in the match, culminating in UG powerbombing Volador on the floor. It did not directly lead to the results, though Guerrero attacked Volador after the match.

Mascara snuck in a foul on Niebla Roja for the win.

Amapola once again was disqualified for excessive violence, this time for choking on the ropes.


people flying eveywhere

I was all set to give up on this when they got to the very predictable Guerrero Special finish. The match was good but lacked in any creativity to that point, just going thru the motions of a normal match. It picked greatly after that point, going back and forth well before it descending into an unexpected breakup angle. Cavernario & Titan came across as the equal of Último Guerrero & Volador even with the break up issue, getting the clean wins at the end. This match was more dramatic in those last half dozen minutes than it was exciting.

The técnicos showed out by the end of the semi-main with some big dives. The match wasn’t too harmed by Mascara 2000 subbing in for Sansón, though it still wasn’t at the level of the recent Tuesday matches with him staying out of the way. Mascara 2000 getting involved with an angle seems a poor use of time.

Valiente Especial

Valiente and Hechicero just went for all big moves all the times and pulled off lots of big moves. It was almost a bit of disappointment that the finish was just a normal submission hold, underwhelming compared to people flying around for big moves. Valiente’s moonsault looked incredible for the brief moment where it didn’t look like it was going to happen. There was one corner spot where Hechicero seemed to slip and both were frozen for a moment, but the rest of the match looked pretty nice.

Atlantis and son continue to produce solid if not spectacular matches. Triton seemed toned down than usual teaming with them. Hijos del Infierno are an equally not an exciting team. This was mostly a route to get to the father and son winning at the same time and they got to that ending.

skinny dudes are no match for Mascara 2000

The women’s match finish was lame – they haven’t figured out a way to do a satisfying DQ finish for unmasked women still. Kaho and Amapola have some chemistry in the little time they work together but I have no idea what a three fall match between them would look like. Tae Honma got to do a dive in Arena Mexico and seemed thrilled. Seductora was an odd pick to work with her most of this match.

Sonic & Super Astro were a fun team in a match that had some spotty moments. My theory is Sonic can do some cool stuff if he had good bases to work with. These were not the right bases. Coyote & Grako are getting very slowly, very small better. Demus is missed, though I bet Demus doesn’t miss working CMLL openers. Sonic does take big bumps that his body probably isn’t going to hold up long doing. I hope they find a way to do something with him first.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-04-19


Recapped: 04/19/2019


El Coyote & Grako beat Arkalis & Halcón Suriano Jr.
(15:08 [5:50, 2:49, 6:29], 1/3, good)

Kaho Kobayashi, Princesa Sugehit, Tae Honma beat Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis
(15:33 [6:35, 3:50, 5:08], 1/3 DQ, ok)

Rey Cometa beat Kawato San in a lightning match
(4:02, 450 splash, ok)

Ángel de Oro, Atlantis Jr., Carístico beat Hijo del Villano III, Rey Bucanero, Sansón
(15:15 [5:26, 3:06, 6:43], 2/3, ok)

The dumb battle royal went 3:14

Cuatrero & Místico beat Hechicero & Stuka Jr. in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(5:36, ok)

Atlantis & Negro Casas beat Audaz & Templario in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(3:31, ok)

Último Guerrero & Volador Jr. beat Niebla Roja & Terrible in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(3:23, ok)

Rush & Vangellys beat Gran Guerrero & Valiente in a Torneo Increible de Parejas eighthfinal
(2:47, below average)

Atlantis & Negro Casas beat Cuatrero & Místico in a Torneo Increible de Parejas quarterfinal
(3:14, below average)

Último Guerrero & Volador Jr. beat Rush & Vangellys in a Torneo Increible de Parejas quarterfinal
(2:28, DQ, bad)

Último Guerrero & Volador Jr. beat Cuatrero & Místico in a Torneo Increible de Parejas semifinal
(6:10, ok)

What happened:

Bienvenido a Mexico

Tae Honma made her debut. She was pinned in the third fall by Dalys, but Dalys and Amapola kept hitting each other by mistake while aiming for Kobayashi. Amapola eventually got disqualified for excessive violence on Kobayashi.

Volador & Último Guerrero won the second block and will face Titan and Cavernario next week.


The tournament is totally skippable, a far cry from last week. There were no surprises and not much action. Rush wrestled twice while actually wrestling not at all. It was still better than what Vangellys was doing. The first round had two different versions of a team falling apart and fighting. (Audaz & Templario waited until after their to fell apart), but the cameras weren’t there to see. Rush decided to dropkick the referee in the face instead of breaking up a pin. Hechicero & Stuka tried a team and the main event had some effort, but it was so to the formula for both winners that it does not give great hope for next week.

The semi-main was a very easy, the técnicos cleanly doing high spots and not much more to it. Villano III Jr. & Atlantis Jr. didn’t look like rookies. That’s an improvement, though it still felt like a stretch to have them this high up. Villano has added some weight, Atlantis is still skinny and slow at the Atlantida.

he was making certain this would connect

Rey Cometa seemed to be annoyed Kawato had forgotten a sequence in the lightning match and decided to end it immediately. I can’t be sure that was his decision, but Kawato definitely forgot whatever he was supposed to in response to the second handspring and that was that. Cometa’s tope looked really cool, but that was mostly because he aimed it directly at Kawato in a way where Kawato’s head was going to break the fall even if he didn’t get his arms up. After a year, they don’t trust Kawato with must and he proved them right not trust him. He needs a fresh start any place else and it is a waste of his time to keep going in CMLL. This is not working at all and no one’s going to get much out of an apuesta with him.

Honma was not good in her first exchange with Amapola. She’s seemed ok the rest of the way but no strong impression. She was small enough that she made Amapola’s spear look great. Kaho had some bad luck with ugly looking shots during the. It didn’t seem to slow her down. Reina Isis was almost too short to do the Sugehit shove off the off spot.

The opener was a great Halcón Suriano showcase we haven’t gotten from him since long ago Stukita days. Grako & Coyote were fine, better than some of the latter mini rudo performances, and that was enough to be a platform for some impressive moments. Even given his height and travel, it is surprising they don’t do more with him. Though maybe not Grako’s flying elbow drop at all could be a clue. They had a lot more action to it than usual, not just from Suriano, and that effort was enough to call it worth checking out.

you take him