CMLL on Marca: 2019-08-16


Recapped: 08/16/2019


Cancerbero & Raziel beat Robin & Star Jr.
(13:35 [5:23, 3:09, 5:03], 1/3, ok)

Átomo, Gallito, Microman beat Chamuel, Guapito, Perico Zacarías
(13:26 [6:12, 1:54, 5:20], 2/3 DQ, good)

Atlantis Jr., Flyer, Titan beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(13:49 [3:51, 4:10, 5:48], 1/3, ok)

Dalys beat Metálica in the CMLL Universal de Amazonas final
(8:28, suplex, below average)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Diamante Azul beat Cuatrero, Gilbert el Boricua, Sansón
(14:29 [5:31, 3:36, 5:22], 2/3, ok)

Volador Jr. beat Forastero
(12:20, 1/3, good)

  1. Forastero armscissors (1:22)
  2. Volador torito (2:38)
  3. Volador top rope huracanrana (8:20)

Dragón Lee, Místico, Último Guerrero beat Carístico, Ciber the Main Man, Valiente in a relevos increíbles match
(14:19 [4:05, 3:53, 6:21], 1/3 DQ, ok)

What happened:


UG faked a foul at the end of the main event. Ciber covered UG, Edgar counted, then stopped to call the foul. Ciber became the first person to suggest the hair match at the Aniversario show but wanted a title match (again) prior.

After all the weeks of Forastero cheating to win, he never tried to cheat to win in the singles match. Volador just won clean.

CMLL production, as they are prone to do, turned down the arena sound for an ad and forgot to turn it back up again until the match was in progress. This meant there was no introductions for the Universal tournament final. Those watching on the stream missed an announcement that it was a one-fall match. Metalica apparently suffered an injury getting caught in the ropes on a tope, which caused that one fall to end early. Panico presented the new belt to Dalys.

Chamuel fouled Microman to end the micros match. Microman asked for a rematch, which got him attacked by Chamuel. Chamuel had earlier ripped up Microman’s mask. Guapito took Gallito’s mask as well.



The main event I imagined a main event of Ciber & UG darting in and out while the other four were mostly in the ring. What we got instead was Ciber & Ultimo Guerrero being closer to the ring as the other four brawled around the arena. That was unexpected. More expected was Mistico versus Caristico being a lot more over than Ultimo Guerrero. The match itself did better with less time in the ring for both and the crowd seems to be talking themselves into cheering for UG but this isn’t good.

Volador tonight was better than Volador in Puebla. Forastero wasn’t as good as Dragon Lee in Puebla. The product was a match that was smoother than that recent title match if also feeling a lot like other Volador title matches. Forastero did better than his chance with Soberano but still isn’t a compelling singles wrestler. The idea here seemed to make Forastero a bigger deal prior to the Gran Prix and I’m not sure if it really took.

The undercard got shuffled around to give us another Diamante Azul & Mesias match up prior to them running each other at the Gran Prix. Those two were marginally better than usual, though the better work was around them. The Dinamitas controlled a lot of the action, Mesias was set up to look good, and the Chavez were smooth.

life in the opener

Metalica looked nervous trying her tope, didn’t land it, and that was that for the match. Dalys can do nothing but follow her script and her script was for a lot of moves dropping Metalica on the floor when rest might have helped. Metalica didn’t even have the energy for a proper cover by the time she got in the ring. Dalys winning with a basic suplex was very overwhelming but also probably a merciful end. The sound issues really contributed to the flat ending, because no one on watching the stream knew it was one fall, there was no reason to expect it to be. The announcers (and Dalys backstage) hyped about how easy the win was; this was a pretty terrible night for Metalica. It wasn’t any great win for Dalys either.

The tercera was fine, with the Hijos del Infierno seemingly a little better than usual. The tecnicos just didn’t show much out of the ordinary. Atlantis’s new dive looks impressive and every thing else was the usual.

Microman had the highspots, but I think the micros match was the best Chamuel performance so far. He was the start of the night. Chamuel was a great base as always, getting the best out of the tecnicos. His big improvement was being a figure of menace, just tearing into the tecnicos and taking well-timed cheap shots when he had the opportunity. Chamuel came off as mean, not just a comic foil. If CMLL is going with this feud as much as it looks like, it’s going to workout well.

I was intensely distracted during portions of the opener but it seemed like a sloppier version of the usual opening. Robin and the rudos were not working smoothly together at the end of the first fall. It did get better and we got actual third fall dives in an opener.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-08-09

my thoughts exactly

Recapped: 08/09/2019


Magnus & Oro Jr. beat Nitro & Sangre Azteca
(12:54 [6:48, 3:08, 2:58], 2/3, below average, 00:00:00)

Atlantis Jr., Dulce Gardenia, Titán beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Okumura
(13:19 [3:27, 4:33, 5:19], 1/3, good, 00:20:36)

The dumb battle royal went 3:47

Dalys beat Lluvia, Silueta, La Comandante, Mystique, Stephanie Vaquer, La Jarochita, Skadi, Reina Isis, La Magnifica in the CMLL Universal de Amazonas semifinal
(24:27, ok, 00:44:10)

  • 09:38 Skadi middle rope dropkick La Comandante
  • 11:17 Jarochita faceslam Vaquer
  • 13:32 Magnifica Vertabreaker Mystique
  • 15:52 Lluvia corner dropkick Skadi
  • 19:03 Reina Isis frontcracker Silueta
  • 19:55 La Jarochita Gory Bomb La Magnifica
  • 21:13 Dalys swinging slam Lluvia
  • 24:03 La Jarochita tapita Reina Isis
  • 24:27 Dalys spinning crucifix powerbomb La Jarochita

Cuatrero, Negro Casas, Sansón beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente
(11:15 [3:13, 3:09, 4:53], 1/3, ok, 01:20:30)

Último Guerrero © beat Ciber the Main Man to retain the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship
(7:51, 2/3, below average, 01:42:37)

  1. Ciber spear (2:15)
  2. Ultimo Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero (1:23)
  3. Ultimo Guerrero pin (4:13)

Euforia, Forastero, Gran Guerrero beat Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr.
(6:08 [3:03, 3:05], 1/2, below average, 02:03:34)

What happened:


Forastero fouled Volador to beat him, the third straight week Forastero has cheated Volador. Volador wanted a singles match to settle it, but Forastero insisted on putting the NWA Welterweight Championship on the line.

(The referee forgot to turn around in time to avoid seeing the foul, leaving a finish so bad the announcers were laughing about it.)

The semi-main finish was just as a laughable. Ciber fouled UG and immediately faked a foul. UG fell forward, landing on Ciber. This somehow left Ciber unable to kickout and Ultimo Guerrero retained the heavyweight championship. Ultimo Guerrero again pressed for a hair match while Ciber wanted a title rematch.

Dalys unsurprisingly advanced to face La Metalica in the CMLL Universal de Amazons final. The new belt, with a different design than the men’s belt, was presented.

The rudos attacked the tecnicos after the second match for no particular reason.


a tornillo

The CMLL rut continues. Only the second match was something really worth the time. The top two matches were not good with poor finishes. The crowd was disinterested in much of the show, making for a poor atmosphere for a less than stellar show.

Some match was going to get shorted on time due to the women’s cibernetico going very long. I didn’t guess it would be the main event. Euforia & Gran Guerrero brought back some of their teamwork, the tecnicos did their dives, and they got to the finish. This finish would’ve been the worst in some time if not for the prior match being even worse. This one at least was intended to be better, but they didn’t have a referee who could handle turning away at the right time.

Ciber and Ultimo Guerrero was the same lacking match it is every other time. They haven’t figured out a way to make it work (and it doesn’t appear they care to do so.) They got no crowd reaction but there weren’t many crowd reactions to be had so I guess they can’t be blamed. This still this in no way feels like a big feud. Ciber probably hurt himself more by not taking Ultimo Guerrero’s superbomb right. He tried to protect himself and it backfired. The finish was ludicrous, something that would be considered absurd if done in AAA or WWE.

Atlantis Jr.

Of the two undercard trios matches, I preferred the segunda. Dulce Gardenia & Atlantis Jr. are fresher than most of the luchadors. The rudos worked hard, and the entire crew did the best job of engaging the crowd all night. The Angel de Oro led trios match was technically fine but more forgettable. The Dinamtias clearly enjoyed getting to team with Casas, but it never developed into much.

The women’s cibernetico wasn’t really any much better than last week and maybe hurt more by the inevitably of the outcome. La Magnifica was the closest thing to an Avispa Dorada like performance, surprisingly getting an elimination and should be back, but that alone wasn’t enough to make the match worthwhile. A lot of the women, especially Jarochita & Lluvia late in the match, seemed helpfully enthused to have such a big moment. The skills to have a good match just weren’t all there. The announcers try to praise Skadi as having a breakout performance; she did hit a great clothesline on Mystique but looked clumsily by the end. Silueta got to do her Spanish Fly, which seemed a lot more than Vaquer got to do.

Magnus promised the craziest performance ever in the opener. Magnus then had a very normal match. Perhaps Magnus should’ve looked at who he was facing first, or perhaps Magnus thinks he did have a crazy match and we’re all lost. This was a little worse opener than usual because the rudos were very dedicated to doing nothing for about two falls.

this isn’t going to end well

CMLL on Marca: 2019-08-02

Avispa Dorada

Recapped: 08/02/2019


Sangre Azteca & Dark Magic beat Oro Jr. & Súper Astro Jr.
(15:25 [5:58, 3:43, 5:44], 2/3, below average, 00:00:00)

Chamuel, Guapito, Periko Zacarías beat Átomo, Gallito, Microman
(13:49 [4:31, 2:44, 6:34], 1/3, ok, 00:22:47)

La Metálica beat Tiffany, Sanely, La Infernal, Maligna, La Guerrera, La Seductora, Avispa Dorada, Amapola, Marcela in the semifinal of the CMLL Universal tournament
(21:42, ok, 00:47:40)

  • 07:26 Amapola arms tied submission La Infernal
  • 09:54 La Seductora rolling hammerlock La Guerrera
  • 12:48 Sanely La Soberana La Maligna
  • 14:32 Marcela straight jacket cavernaria La Seductora
  • 15:50 Tiffany senton Sanely
  • 18:49 Amapola double pin Tiffany
  • 18:49 Tiffany double pin Amapola
  • 20:04 Marcela Michinoku Driver on Avispa Dorada
  • 21:42 Metalica senton Marcela

Dragón Lee beat Gran Guerrero in a lightning match
(8:35, suplex powerbomb, good, 01:20:56)

Ciber the Main Man, Rush, Terrible beat Cavernario, Dark Magic, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match
(9:20 [2:37, 2:30, 4:13], 1/3, ok, 01:35:35)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr.
(7:23 [1:03, 6:20], 1/2 DQ, ok, 01:54:47)

What happened:

Microman can sneak up on you

For the second straight week, Forastero cheated to draw a DQ. He faked a foul this time to get Volador disqualified.

Dark Magic wrestled twice on the show. He replaced Akuma & Espanto Jr. in the opener alongside Sangre Azteca, then came back to replace Mr. Niebla in the semi-main. Ciber cleanly defeated UG in the match, then challenged him to a title match. Guerrero accepted but wanted a hair match after. This appears to be the Aniversario main event, though it wasn’t said.

Dark Magic replaced Mr. Niebla. Ciber challenged UG to a title match next week. UG asked for a rematch.

Dragon Lee was clearly supposed to win on a running knee smash. Pompin stopped counting at two despite Gran Guerrero never kicking out. Both Dragon Lee and the crowd were furious. Dragon Lee won with his powerbomb a few moments later and led chants against Pompin.

Metalica beat Marcela to advance in the CMLL Universal tournament. The crowd loudly booed when Marcela eliminated Avispa Dorada three from the end.

Chamuel beat Microman in the third fall, the first time Microman has been defeated in Arena Mexico since debuting.


Dragon Lee toss

This was another disappointing show. The main event was technically fine but not at all what it promised on paper, instead of seven minutes and a second straight week of a bad finish. I’m not sure if I would’ve liked it if it was a normal full match, which they had time to do because the heart was taken out of this show by the semi-main.

Ciber versus Ultimo Guerrero seems like the Aniversario main event. The feud was no more over nor good in the ring than usual on this show, less an attraction than King Jaguar versus Perverso, but there was equally no sign of anyone else being added to the match. The names were there for a cage match but none were teased. I guess the match itself was not awful, though Dark Magic was totally out of place (and weirdly a tecnico after being a rudo earlier.) It was generally a lifeless match for a dispiriting feud.

Gran Guerrero versus Dragon Lee was easily the best match on the show, and even it had a botched finish. The two youngsters just ran thru most of their big moves in no particular order or meaning. Having big cool moves put them ahead of most of the people on this show. It seemed like Dragon Lee was risking doom by waiting until the very last moment to kick out of some pin attempts, so it was surprising when the match went too long instead of too short. Credit to the luchadors for being more professional than referee Pompin in finding a way to make the match still dramatically come to an end. This happens way too often in CMLL and much more than in any major league promotion I see.

The women’s cibernetico made a star. It’s a star CMLL doesn’t seem like they’re going to push, even though she did go much farther in tonight’s match than anyone would’ve expected. Avispa Dorada was the winner of the match, looking leagues ahead of her opponents and teammates, even though Metalica technically got the win. This was the best match of her run in CMLL so far, somehow getting more time for a showcase in a ten women match than normally happens in a trios. Avispa got to work with Metalica a lot, which helped. Metalica makes sense as the pick to make a new star and seems to have been the pick to elevate for a while, but it wasn’t the crowd’s choice. No one else stood out positively, with Maligna having the lowest moment of the match by slipping on a dive attempt. La Guerrera doing the same top rope walk rope spot twice doesn’t show great depth. La Infernal had a nice story but was as forgettable as most women in the match.

more Microman

Microman & Chamuel were great together, better than usual. The other four guys exist because CMLL sees this as needing to be a trios match, but they’re not on the level. Gallito & Zacarias had moments and were fine in the end, but the other guys were a struggle. The match is worth watching for the Microman & Chamuel parts at least, but there needs to be more.

Before Dark Magic looked out of place in the semi-main, he looked out of place in the opener. Dark Magic seems to exist to prove that’s it really not that easy for foreigners to pick up lucha libre. Or maybe he’s just hanging around until the bodybuilding contest. He probably was thrown into both matches late and didn’t have much time to work thru them, but he still shouldn’t look as lost as he did. Super Astro Jr. seems wasted when he doesn’t have good rudos to work with and there’s almost no good rudos in the openers. Sangre Azteca using a tornado throat drop of the ropes to set up his low blow dropkick was more thought than usual for him.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-07-26

all he had to do was stand up, Ciber bent over

Recapped: 07/26/2019


Sangre Azteca & Espanto Jr. beat Magia Blanca & Magnus
(11:59 [5:22, 3:00, 3:37], 1/3, ok, 00:00:29)

Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Hijo del Villano III, Misterioso Jr., Tiger
(13:23 [4:11, 4:40, 4:32], 1/3, ok, 00:20:47)

Audaz, Soberano Jr., Titán beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(12:43 [3:24, 4:26, 4:53], 1/3, ok, 01:06:50)

Cavernario beat Valiente in a lightning match
(7:48, Caverneria, ok, 01:06:50)

Ciber the Main Man, La Bestia Del Ring, Rush beat Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match
(8:37 [1:50, 6:47], ok, 01:19:40)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr
(11:22 [3:38, 3:43, 4:01], 1/3 DQ, ok, 01:38:24)

What happened:

a dangerous place to pose

Forastero tossed his mask to Volador to draw a DQ and win the main event. The tecnicos – the Dream Team – asked for a title shot anyway. NGD only offered a rematch before attacking the tecnicos again.

Ultimo Guerrero may have defeated Rush with a powerbomb if Ciber hadn’t pulled out the referee. Ciber fouled UG, with Rush picking up the win. Both sides fought again after the match, with Rey Bucanero making sure to strongly visibly support his old tag partner.

Hijo del Villano III replaced Kawato San.

Akuma seemed to pick up a right knee injury in the opener. Sangre Azteca replaced Espanto.


a Magia Blanca highlight

The main event followed the pattern of most of the card. The moves were generally there, and it was probably a fun show to jump in if you watch CMLL a few times a year. The spirit wasn’t much there, and many of the matches felt like reassembled versions of matches seen many times over. The main event was the best of these kind of matches, but it was still one of those matches. NGD did some of the stuff they do weekly, the tecnicos came back to do some of the stuff they do, and a finish that made no sense within the match or what they’re going with next. Volador again seemed unable or uninterested in doing as much as his teammates, though he was still the center of things at the end. The rematch might be better than this, but a lot of stuff felt like we’d seen the rematch already.

Only the semi-main broke from the repetitive match feel because the lame brawling parts were different from usual. Rush & Casas did meet again and find some good energy. Ciber & UG was the opposite, with Ciber finding a new way to make the barricade leap dive go wrong. I guess barricade dives are not an issue for a cage match. There was a moment where Rey Bucanero tried running early and he probably shouldn’t try running again. The crowd was way into Ultimo Guerrero and will get into any sort of big match finish but this concept wasn’t a lot better than the one on one match.

Rush gets got

The lightning match seemed a comprise, a Valiente showcase match in exchange for a Cavernario won. Valiente took most of the match and Valiente is not a thrilling singles match competitor. He did a couple of impactful dives. Cavernario took big bumps for his offense but didn’t get much of his own until the finish moments.

The tercera was nothing you haven’t seen before from these same group of tecnicos. They executed pretty well, with Soberano looking extra springy on his knees when he wasn’t taken his required Canadian Destroyer, but it’s exactly the sort of match that blends in with the fifty other very similar ones. Audaz still could use some conversion of his evasion flips into some cooler offense. His springboard guillotine 450 splash for the finish didn’t go so well.

Tiger & Guerrero Maya led a professional segunda that was missing a little bit of excitement. They found some of it with the special triple pin but, but the match didn’t stand out much despite the charisma of some of the wrestlers. Fuego seems to wasted in CMLL as a guy working segundas, but there’s no real great solution for him. Villano III needs to spend the week working on kicks to the chest. The first fall ending sequence was well done.

The opener was in the usual range. The rudos don’t do much while in control and the match was lacking pace. The corner dropkick Akuma came up woefully short. Magia Blanca did have some better-looking offense than usual, looking smooth even if some spots didn’t get much rudo help. Sangre Azteca has been doing the same four spots since about 2011, so this was an appropriate show for him to resurface on.

salute splash

CMLL on Marca: 2019-07-19 (Liger Farewell)

LA Park

Recapped: 07/19/2019


Sonic & Súper Astro Jr. beat Cancerbero & Raziel
(13:05 [4:47, 3:10, 5:08], 2/3, ok, 00:00:25)

Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Niebla Roja beat Ephesto, Hechicero, Luciferno
(11:01 [5:39, 5:22], 1/2 DQ, ok, 00:19:41)

Marcela © beat Amapola for the CMLL World Women’s Championship
(12:40 [4:29, 1:48, 6:23], 2/3, ok, 00:39:07)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón, Volador Jr. beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Soberano Jr., Templario in a relevos increíbles match
(14:20 [3:28, 2:58, 7:54], 2/3, good, 01:00:35)

Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, LA Park Jr. vs La Bestia Del Ring, Místico, Rush
(24:55 [4:00, 1:56, 18:59], 1/3, good, 01:26:13)

Jushin Liger beat Carístico, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero in a Relevo CMLL match
(11:17, Liger Bomb on Casas, good, 02:14:30)

What happened:

NGD win

Jushin Liger wrestled his final match in Arena Mexico, defeating Negro Casas in the first ever Relevo CMLL match. Liger was celebrated before and after the match.

LA Park and Rush brawled thru the arena in their latest match, pulling rows of seats and throwing at each other (when CMLL would allow that to be shown.) Rush’s family never actually lost a fall, getting counted out after the dives in the first fall and losing either due to fouls or for shoving the referee in the last fall. Park & Rush teased the mask versus hair match, but they were not allowed to talk on the microphones after the match.

Sanson appeared to suffer a shoulder injury in the fourth match but recovered quickly.

The second match ended oddly, with Hechicero being disqualified for kicking the middle rope to foul Angel de Oro as he came in the ring. Angel de Oro sold it as a foul, though the rudos reacted strongly like they didn’t expect that to be the finish.


run for your life

This was a strong show despite what would traditionally be called a great match. The presentation of the main event made it come off as a giant important deal. The crowd’s intense interest in seeing LA Park & Rush even when some things didn’t go as planned. This felt like a big show.

Caristico, Ultimo Guerrero and Negro Casas had a good match that was helped by the important of the moment. Liger got to work with each CMLL wrestler because of the weird format. It progressed to the happy ending of Liger winning after everyone hit a few of their key spots. Liger’s getting out at the right time but didn’t feel too old for this moment at all. This wasn’t an epic and I’m not sure that’s going to ever be possible for a Relevo CMLL (assuming we see another one.) It did give enough of what people wanted to see out of this moment.

LA Park & Rush also gave the people what they wanted to see, except for the mask versus hair challenge. Rush & Park clearly still want that match and made a point of making sure the fans knew and felt the same when they were done. The match had the wildness and excitement that’s lacking in most CMLL shows, though it had some egregious flaws. The finish was almost messed up because perennially forgetful La Bestia del Ring went out of the ring at the wrong time. That’s expected at this point, less expected is Rush forgetting to stop Edgar for counting three or kickout, making for a very awkward situation. Mistico was predictably hated by this crowd but he and Hijo de LA Park did well as second bananas. LA Park Jr. tried but didn’t have much to work with Bestia as his normal opponent. The magic is still there with Park & Rush but CMLL treated this like a one-off thing to help fill a house and not the start of a build to September.

a Forastero tope

The atomicos match was a struggle early, with spots not going as planned and nothing really clicking until the end of the second fall. (They really caught a break that Sanson’s shoulder wasn’t as bad as it looked since he was a huge part of that fall’s finish.) Volador seemed happy to wrestle a bit as a rudo, Soberano seemed eager to try out more spots with his Guerrero friends assisting and it went a lot better for Volador than it did Soberano. There’s a weird bit here where NGD both are booked as a stronger team than the Guerreros and also came off as better than this particular lineup, but have the lesser trios titles with no sign of that changing. This particular match didn’t totally work but they did find an extra gear in that third fall to make it exciting. The top three are all worth checking out.

The crowd seemed to really get into Amapola and Marcela by the end. The same match seemed slow and not well performed from my screen. Amapola almost wiping herself out with her old tope con giro thru the ropes proved a point to me; these women still try to wrestle like they did eight years ago but it doesn’t work for them. Marcela was the better of the two but she wasn’t great. Still, the crowd cared about the near falls, which means there probably isn’t any incentive to change this.


The second match was going along fine until the abrupt finish. I’d believe any story about what was supposed to happen, from Hechicero having a strange idea for a two fall match or the referee totally screwing up. I thought it was a referee screw up live and a planned spot rewatching it later. Either way, it still felt like they cut it off just as it was breaking out of the usual spots. You can safely skip it.

The opener is also a safely skip, though the effort was better than usual. Raziel & Cancerbero were in a good mood, showing more on offense. The tecnicos just didn’t show as much, either by chance or by rudo design. Super Astro was missing the spark he’s shown in other matches and Sonny struggled at times.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-07-12

that kind of night

Recapped: 07/12/2019


El Coyote & Grako beat Halcón Suriano Jr. & Príncipe Diamante
(14:28 [5:26, 4:14, 4:48], 1/3, ok, 00:00:00)

Átomo, Gallito Tapatío, Microman beat Chamuel, Guapito, Zacarias el Perico
(11:45 [4:34, 1:19, 5:52], 2/3, ok, 00:22:00)

Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Stuka Jr. beat Ephesto, Hijo del Villano III, Hechicero
(9:42 [5:02, 4:40], 1/2 DQ, ok, 00:44:13)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Titán, Valiente, Volador Jr.
(13:47 [3:32, 4:29, 5:46], 2/3, ok, 01:04:40)

Dragón Lee, Místico, Rush beat Gilbert el Boricua, Mr. Niebla, The Chris
(13:02 [2:13, 2:41, 8:08], 2/3, ok, 01:25:23)

Último Guerrero beat Ciber the Main Man
(8:22, 2/3 DQ, below average, 01:50:59)

  1. Ciber spear (1:56)
  2. UG pulpo guerrero (2:39)
  3. DQ Ciber for ref attack (3:47)

What happened:

so many moonsaults

Ciber took out referee Edgar with an accidental charge in the third fall of the main event, then fouled Ultimo Guerrero and put him in a crab submission. Edgar recovered and tapped Ciber on the shoulder. Ciber was sure it was to indicate a win. It, of course, was instead a DQ. Ciber harshly shoved Edgar down and out of the ring.

Paco Alonso was remembered prior to the fourth match.

Villano III Jr. unmasked Atlantis Jr. for the DQ in their match.


This card didn’t look highly promising on paper and didn’t surprise in reality. I kind of just want to write the whole thing off as a group of wrestlers still dealing with the shock and depression of their well-liked boss suddenly passing away. The hardest working people on the show were the Munoz, who was specifically doing it as a tribute. Most everyone else seemed to just be muddling their way thru their state of mind. The Monday and Tuesdays show wasn’t great but they rarely are, it might have had a more noticeable effect here. Next week, with Liger and LA Park around, should be a lot better.

I want to write this show off for me too after spending the first hour of this show trying to figure out why my computer won’t play the audio and sound in sync from YouTube anymore, but I don’t think I get that.

Stuka smooth into the ‘rana

Ciber and Ultimo Guerrero was a boring match devoid of many highlights or entertainment. It was a slog. The very square peg of Ciber didn’t really fit into Ultimo Guerrero’s round hole of a match formula, even the cut down simplified version they did here. UG wasn’t at his best either, slipping on his big leap over the barricade. Ciber was game to take the superbomb, but it wasn’t his night and it’s hard to believe this is going to ever work. The crowd was into this feud only as much as they always like cheering Ultimo Guerrero; there’s no steam in Ciber and the weak finish didn’t help him either. This didn’t work, but it hasn’t worked any time in the last three years. CMLL just can’t let it go for unclear reasons.

The semimain was probably the most fun match of the show, with Mistico, Dragon Lee and Rush enjoying getting to be a team. Their opponents didn’t really add much. Niebla seemed to spend most of the match on the apron while Gilbert and Sharly wrestled as less mobile Hijos del Infierno. This was very much matching making based on trying to get people their promised amount of bookings rather than trying to put together something good and it showed. The one silver lining is Gilbert looked better knocking around Mistico than he has in most of his time in CMLL. He may be still successful as a heavyweight bullying small guys – you know, exactly what he did with Fenix – but that’s not a dynamic CMLL pursues often. The heavyweight battles they want for him aren’t working.

The Volador/NGD trios followed right out of the Paco Alonso tribute. I’m probably projecting things that aren’t really there, but it came off like a purposefully easy match to get the crowd back in. NGD did a new bit of chaining some of their solo finishing moves in series to close out a fall, but most of this was a house main event stuff. They did a “star with a tapatia” fall ending to start and another one that ended directly after the dives, this wasn’t particularly deep. It was fine for what it was.

Atlantis Jr.’s team got beat up and came back to win the first fall of the tercera, which is always a sign the match is probably going two falls. There’s no point in going in so heavy with Hijo del Villano III and Atlantis Jr. at this point, they’re both not completely ready for it and it’d be a tragedy to have them do an actual 1v1 mask match any time soon. CMLL just can’t resist nostalgia in general, and second general rivalries are irresistible nostalgia stuff. Hechicero & Stuka had some good moments. Atlantis continues to struggle to move around.

down he goes

Microman & Chamuel were really good in the micros match, even with Chamuel not doing a lot to hide how much he was helping at the times. The other four didn’t add a whole lot and occasionally took some away. The match was fine, there are just bigger problems here. The first micro matches showed some progression and growth from the wrestlers. That’s not there anymore, and this match felt like some of them were getting worse. It’s one match but the micros could use a positive sign in general.

Halcon Suriano Jr. seems like a guy who would keep doing moonsaults forever if the situation allowed it, and the situation here just about did. I was most distracted during this match, which seemed like a not great night out of the rudos and about a usual one for the tecnicos. Miguel Linares was very excited to refer to Suriano’s submission as La Lanza de Halcon so I’ll note it as well.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-07-05


Recapped: 07/05/2019


Espanto Jr. & Hijo del Signo beat Robin & Súper Astro Jr.
(12:32 [4:40, 2:19, 5:33], 1/3, below average, 00:00:00)

Pegasso, Rey Cometa, Star Jr. beat Okumura, Pólvora, Virus
(11:14 [6:21, 4:53], 1/2 DQ, ok, 00:19:25)

Atlantis Jr. went to a draw against Hijo del Villano III in a lightning match
(7:44, countout of the ring, good, 00:39:13)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón © beat Esfinge, Titán, Tritón to keep the Mexican National Trios Championship
(23:30 [7:20, 4:23, 11:47], 2/3, good, 00:57:20)

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Soberano Jr. beat Ciber the Main Man, Místico, Rey Bucanero in a relevos increíbles match
(8:41 [1:34, 2:22, 4:45], 1/3 DQ, ok, 01:31:27)

Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Gilbert el Boricua, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible
(7:58 [2:00, 3:15, 2:43], 1/3, below average, 01:50:17)

What happened:

Super Astro Jr.

Ciber unmasked Gran Guerrero to end the semi-main and to build towards next week’s singles match with Ultimo Guerrero

NGD retained the national trios titles over OneAtos Style.

Perro Aguayo was honored after the third match. It was the same video package and clapping as every other death, which seemed a bit underwhelming for someone who was as important to the fans as Perro.

Atlantis Jr. and Hijo del Villano III were brawling outside when the count reached twenty. They continued to fight after the match was stopped.

Polvora unmasked Star Jr. to end the second match.

Espanto Jr. appeared to suffer a right shoulder injury on a Super Astro Jr. dive in the second fall of the opener. His countout felt a bit unplanned. He refused to tag in during the third fall, was eventually checked on, and then finished the match to get the win for his team. He was back out in street clothes without a sling or any visible sign of injury for the Perro tribute.



This show was better than it looked on paper. The main event was about nothing and the opener really had the Super Astro dive in it’s favor. The rest was around as good or better than expected.

The semi-main was a totally weird alignment, with one team working much better than the other. Soberano had cool teamwork ideas with the Guerreros, playing off the hundred of times they’ve thrown him around. Mistico and Soberano showed good chemistry as rivals and Mistico against these tecnicos is always going to have a few eye-catching moments. Rey Bucanero and Ciber were out of place, though the entire reason the match was happening was to get to Ciber unmasking Gran Guerrero to tease the match next week.

The Guadalajara version of this national trios championship match was a bit more dramatic. This one lacked a moment where the challengers seemed close to actually winning. They did have an on point for Triton, who pulled off a few incredible spots. Titan and Esfinge, for better and worse, are generally coming thru at the same level in these so Triton’s performances can really swing things. NGD was effective as a team though they’ve had more creative matches and didn’t feel as pushed as they were against the Oro/Roja/Soberano team. The finish was set up nicely, except for the CMLL cameras (missed it live) and Metalico) messed up the count. This is one where I had a hard time deciding on the grade.

feels like Soberano might have wanted to do more than this but had to adjust

Same thing with the lightning match. It’s Atlantis Jr.’s best and maybe most important match yet. He’s looked like a slight pale imitation of his father, with an extra headscissors thrown in, to this point. Atlantis Jr. really needed some offense to stand out on his own in a promotion built around tecnicos doing cool flippy stuff. (Just look at all the GIFs.) Gran Metalik is going to be very upset when he sees Atlantis Jr. took his ramp running headscissors, but he isn’t using it anymore and it helps Atlantis Jr. a great deal. Atlantis looked generally good during the match and Hijo del Villano III Jr. was willing to take the necessary bumps for him. They’re both progressing and not really ready roles they’re in, but CMLL doesn’t seem like they’re going to turn the heat down on this feud soon.

The second was an efficient professional CMLL midcard match. It was a lot of the usual stuff – you can put the Rey Cometa match in your head before it happens now – but it came together fine. Okumura didn’t stick out in his return and that was good news. Star Jr. was the one guy who seemed to be trying a bit more and a little differently, which was promising.

The opener was a usual opener that derailed a bit after Espanto’s injury. Super Astro Jr. is a future star if CMLL treats him like one. Leaving him in the openers hurts. Having him lose in the openers hurts more. I like Pegasso but Astro should be at least in his spot right now.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-06-28

an Arena Mexico debut

Recapped: 06/28/2019


Inquisidor & Nitro beat Eléctrico & Oro Jr.
(10:32 [4:23, 1:53, 4:16], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Amapola, La Comandante, Tiffany beat Avispa Dorada, La Maligna, Lluvia
(13:46 [6:38, 2:25, 4:43], 2/3, below average, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dulce Gardenia beat Disturbio
(6:34, good, crucifix cradle VideosOficialesCMLL)

Esfinge, Titán, Tritón beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(17:27 [5:39, 5:34, 6:14], 2/3, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Stuka Jr. beat Mephisto in a lightning match
(9:07, torpedo splash, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ciber the Main Man, Sharlie Rockstar, The Chris beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(6:27 [2:23, 4:04], 1 DQ/2, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(9:34 [2:34, 4:20, 2:40], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 


Titan and friends challenged for a trios title match next week.

The Chris was disqualified for using his kendo stick in the first fall. UG snuck in a foul on Ciber in the second fall. This set up a singles match in two weeks between them (because Ultimo Guerrero is in France next week.)


The main event was the Tuesday send everyone home happy match on a Friday, with a slightly better crew than usual. Everyone did a bit of their signature stuff, Negro Casas won a fall with a sleeper for some reason, and the fans got the happy finish. Maybe we shouldn’t take these for granted but I kind of do.

CL4N had some teamwork spots that look fine until the Guerreros took over and the difference was unmistakable. The very short match seemed felt like they’d run thru it many times to make sure it wouldn’t suck and it didn’t suck, though it didn’t also do much to make you want to see Ciber and UG. There were moments with those two in particular that looked like they were going slow just so nothing would get missed, but looked more staged because of the speed. The Chris & Scharly did dives and neither seemed broken, which is at least an improvement over the last time this trio was altogether in Arena Mexico.

Casas still takes the best timber bumps

Mephisto singles match remain exactly as good as the tecnico opposition is willing to do. Stuka was willing to do a half dozen big spots in this seemingly insignificant match and so it was very good. The last few were ones he doesn’t do much, if at all lately – he wanted to make this big and it worked. I always appreciate the CMLL match where a guy just keeps hitting moves until he wins just wins instead of the (non-)surprise turnaround; Stuka’s ramp plancha didn’t get the three count itself but meant something because it led to him getting the win.

The NGD/Oneatos style blended their usual spots with a few things they don’t do as usual. It also felt like the tecnicos took the fight to the Dinamitas at times; things like that and Triton picking up a pinfall in the third fall help make this a more believable title match for next week. The two teams mesh well. This wasn’t quite as good as their big title match in Guadalajara but they seemed to be saving the big dramatics for next week, and that should easily be better than this.

I had been told the women’s match was awful and didn’t think it was that way early on. It got there in the third fall. Maligna having been told to leave the ring at one point because it wasn’t her turn stuck out, not just because what she did when it was finally her turn wasn’t effective but also how much these matches are strictly on rails and can’t handle people being out of sequence. That entire third fall should not go on Maligna’s highlight reel or most of anyone. Lluvia bending over to feed herself obviously for a Tiffany faceslam, then getting right back up to chop here was frustratingly bad. It showed all the signs of a rehearsed match but why would they rehearse a sequence that nonsensical.


A dance number takes place to introduce Dulce Gardenia. CMLL again will not air the dance numbers, but someone forgets to turn down the Arena Mexico audio – if the idea is to avoid music issues, they’d have them the same, just without the dance to go with it. Dulce got smoke bombs after the win. Sofia Alonso and a member of the Mexico Tourism department give Gardenia trophy.

The opener was better than usual, seemingly because they got a lot less time than they were planning and had to actually press the pace to get everything done. Inquisidor works at a leisurely pace on Tuesdays and was hustling, especially in the first fall. He still took the Oro Jr. apron headscissors terribly and Oro almost lost him on the valagueza, so working fast doesn’t cure all problems. Oro Jr.’s favorite part of wrestling is definitely the posing. Nitro moves slightly better than an average CL4N member.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-06-21


Recapped: 06/21/2019


Espíritu Negro & Hijo del Signo beat Robin & Súper Astro Jr.
(10:28 [4:38, 2:15, 3:35], 1/3, ok, 

Drone, Fuego, Tritón beat Disturbio, Tiger, Virus
(14:17 [5:24, 2:32, 6:21], 2/3, ok, 

Hechicero, Kawato San, Templario beat Audaz, Flyer, Soberano Jr.
(16:53 [4:41, 4:44, 7:28], 1/3, good,

Negro Casas beat Titán in a lightning match
(6:32, casita, ok,

Ciber the Main Man, Gilbert el Boricua, The Chris beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(13:11 [4:02, 2:03, 7:06], 1/3, below average,

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat La Bestia Del Ring & Rush to win Copa Dinastia
(21:15 [1:12, 6:12, 13:51], 2 DQ/3, ok, 

What happened:

better get your hands up

Copa Dinastia ended messily. Niebla Roja & Bestia del Ring were eliminated, leaving Angel de Oro & Rush. Rush gave Angel de Oro a martinete in front of referee Edgar, then go up and walked to the ropes near Niebla Roja. Oro recovered immediately to foul (also in front of the referee) and inside cradle Rush for the win. It appeared Bestia was supposed to have been involved in the finish and forgot, causing some (poor) improvising.

Earlier, Rush picked up the DQ in the second fall for bringing a video cable into the ring and hitting the Chavez brothers with it. Los Ingobernables losing a fall by DQ in a match they’re losing (so they only get pinned one) happens in every big match.

Ciber also used a foul to defeat Ultimo Guerrero in the semi-main. UG challenged for both a hair match and a trios rematch. Ciber seemed willing to do the trios match but wanted a title match before any hair match.

Triton & Tiger continued to feud, though Triton won cleanly with a 450 splash.

A new PSA was shown asking fans not to throw coins at the ring. Coins were thrown at the ring following the third match.


Audaz flies

A cold show outside of the third match. It took until the last moments of the main event for the crowd really to get into it. They dropped out of the Negro Casas/Titan match very quickly. Both Ciber/UG and Angel de Oro/Rush were slightly suggested as Aniversario main events. Both will need work to get people to care.

The work in the main event was interesting in how it was put together not to fail. They’d clearly run thru it before. Rush was still visibly coaching his father to get him thru it. He did so generally OK before the botched finish. It also felt like they dumbed down the match so much that what was left was unexciting. The Ingobernables controlled sections lacked excitement and creativity. The Chavez felt like they went a long time with getting in nothing outside of dives. This was not the disaster the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas match was. It was a competent match, just not a very interesting one.


The Chris & Gilbert were on such different pages on a double team move (well, at least one of them though it was a double team move) that it didn’t appear the semi-main was going to even be competent. The outside trio stuck with standing and punching for most of the rest of the time. It wasn’t impressive. The UG/Ciber direction is the UG/Mascara 2000 match feud brought back awfully quickly for something that didn’t seem to work the first time. Ciber can’t do much more than Chucho and would obviously have just as limited singles match if they get that far. Maybe they’d get by if these crowd cared about these guys, but the semi-main got as little reaction as anything all night. CMLL flaked out on the Guerreros/CL4N feud last year and one can only hope they’ll do so again.

Titan & Negro Casas lost the crowd during the match. I can’t really identify for sure why, but they were cheering loudly for Casas and then not really caring when Casas was doing things. The match went heavily back and forth where neither man got much momentum and ended quickly, but there’s plenty of lightning match that flowed a little better than this. Casas and Soberano have had better matches lately, so this was a disappointment.

the roll really makes it.

The guys in the third match went for it. It didn’t totally work but the effort was pretty outstanding. Audaz felt unleashed in a way that hasn’t been seen in a lot of his matches. Maybe it because Templario & Hechicero were around, but some of his riskier stuff was done with Kawato nearby. Soberano & Templario are good together but Soberano & Hechicero are great. Hechicero seems to break Soberano of his usual routines to include some creativity, including the excellent finish. Both third fall dive sequences were a lot of fun, especially Kawato & Flyer’s plunge to the floor. Flyer had his timing issues and Templario messed up his springboard dropkick; there were mistakes that could’ve been fixed here with another try. Hope they get it.

There was plenty of time for the segunda but it didn’t really come together. Tirton & Tiger seemed hotter last week. Tiger was about as enthusiastic about taking the first Triton stage dive as I was about watching the opener. At least him selling that made it seem less silly he was standing in place for the second one. Everyone else was fine but there was an energy missing from the match.

The opener was completely forgettable. Super Astro got out in one piece leading into the super lightweight cibernetico on Sunday, on the outside chance he gets to advance in the ring. He didn’t get to show as much as usual, everyone else did the same couple spots they do in every match.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-06-14

everyone lived

Recapped: 06/14/2019


Magia Blanca & Star Jr. beat Akuma & Espanto Jr.
(10:25 [3:50, 2:25, 4:10], 2/3, ok, 00:01:35)

Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Tritón beat Kawato San, Pólvora, Tiger
(10:52 [3:46, 7:06], 1/2 DQ, good, 00:19:02)

Atlantis Jr., Soberano Jr., Valiente beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Hijo del Villano III
(14:09 [3:58, 4:10, 6:01], 1/3, good, 00:39:45)

Euforia beat Rey Bucanero in a lightning match
(8:47, inside cradle, below average, 01:04:02)

The dumb battle royal lasted 1:24

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero & Último Guerrero in a Copa Dinastia quarterfinal
(5:51, ok, 01:24:02)

Dragón Lee & Místico beat Máscara Año 2000 & Sansón in a Copa Dinastia quarterfinal
(4:40, ok, 01:32:55)

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat Dragón Lee & Místico in a Copa Dinastia semifinal
(12:35, good, 01:40:15)

Austin Theory, Carístico, Volador Jr beat Cavernario, Negro Casas, Rush
(9:32 [2:06, 3:29, 3:57], 2/3, ok, 01:57:25)

What happened:

Sanson welcomes Dragon Lee back

Austin Theory won in his CMLL debut.

Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja advanced to the finals of Copa Dinastia. They will face Rush & La Bestia del Ring next week.

Tiger pulled Triton’s mask for a DQ in the second match. He then took Triton’s replacement mask too.

In post-match promos, Dragon Lee announced he was vacating the CMLL Lightweight Championship.


Rocket Soberano

This was a better show than the lineup suggested. Copa Dinastia was much better and the midcard matches delivered more than expected.

Austin Theory’s debut went well. He got in a few impressive moves, he got some air on his dropkicks and he stood out. This would’ve been the nice start to a month or two run, though I’m still skeptical we’ll even see him in CMLL again. Maybe it’ll encourage CMLL to continue to bring people in from The Crash. The match itself was definitely on the short side. It was for the best, a long match wouldn’t have worked as well after a length show and a heated match prior.

The Copa Dinastia seems to have been ill constructed. The Dragon Lee/Mistico vs Angel de Oro/Niebla Roja match came off as a worthy final, only instead the Chavez brothers are moving onto face the lesser Munoz team next week. Much like Soberano/Euforia last week, the Guerreros were ushered out in shockingly quick fashion. At least they lost to a better team. Mascara 2000 did not fit in at all in his match, making it a 2 on 1 often even before he was eliminated. Perhaps CMLL didn’t want to beat the Sanson/Cuatrero team (though the teams they did pin are just as protected), but sticking in Forastero or even Universo 2000 Jr. would’ve been an improvement.

The Chavez vs Munoz block final stood out enough that it’s worth a watch even outside of the context of the tournament. They attempted to wrestle tecnico/tecnico style, though the crowd surprisingly turned again the Chavez brothers a bit. Mistico & Dragon Lee again appeared to be a promising team when given a chance to wrestle as a pair. Both teams kept up the action thru a long match by tournament standards. Even if this couldn’t be the final for whatever they’re setting up next week, this would’ve been better as the first week of the tournament. Knowing Dragon Lee & Mistico couldn’t advance (because CMLL’s not going to book them against their father) hurt the drama tremendously for me. It didn’t seem to bug the crowd as much. They were into the show all night long, strongest during this match.

double team magic

Euforia/Bucanero was a mistake on paper that proved to be a bad idea in the ring. Rey Bucanero heroically did his semi-annual crazy dive early on to make this work. It was crazy and it also seemed to exhaust him for the rest of the match. Nothing went seriously wrong, this just moved at a snail’s pace compared to the rest of the show and felt like it lasted forever. I suspect this match was done to get both closer to their promised amount of bookings for a month, not because anyone thought it would be good. It just shows the problems of CMLL’s setup.

The reaction I saw on Twitter was a lot more enthusiastic about the tercera than I came away with it, so maybe I’m just off. I’m still not particularly impressed by the rookies and Valiente didn’t have an especially good night. Still, Soberano was great and this match came together as more of a group effort than anything else. This trios got significantly more time than the matches underneath it (and the ones after it) and squeezed in a lot more highspots for that time.

Tiger & Triton gave the segunda much more of a direction, unexpected as it was. (It was also a relief, given Kawato & Esfinge interacting a lot earlier in the match. I don’t rule that out totally.) Tiger continues to be in great form in this matches when give a chance to do something, though maybe he should be aiming higher than his post-show challenge for the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Championship. CMLL seemed to take the restrictions off the second match guys on this show. Cometa’s running Spanish Fly to the was nutty, even more so since Kawato was the guy taking it. Kawato’s kicks are looking good. Hope his knee is as well after that landing.

Espanto Jr. crotched himself on the finish of the opener, so business as usual there. The rest of the match had some good spots and slow speed into and out of them. The other three wrestlers all still show promise but don’t seem like they have any chance of developing here. Magia Blanca could really use a good indie booking for us to find out if he can do more than he’s shown in CMLL since returning from injury.