CMLL Guadalajara: 2018-05-19

Audaz has incredible balanace

Recapped: 05/29/2018


Cavernario, Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino beat El Audaz, Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr. 
(12:31 [4:50, 3:33, 4:08], 1/3, ok, via  thecubsfan )

Hechicero © beat Esfinge for the NWA World Light Heavyweight Championship
(19:02, 1/3, good, via thecubsfan )

  1. Hechicero Magia Negra (4:20)
  2. Esfinge Nudo Egipico (1:22)
  3. Hechicero figure four jacknife cradle (13:20)

Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible
(6:22 [1:10, 1:47, 3:25], 2/3 DQ, ok, via thecubsfan)

What happened: 

Esfinge ends Hechicero thru the front row

Soberano & Cavernario feuded thru their match.

Hechicero kept the NWA Light Heavyweight Championship over Esfinge.

Rush fouled Valiente for pretty much no reason.


Hechicero/Esfinge was about as good as an Hechicero/Esfinge match. There was one badly blown spot, but that’s about what you expect with Esfinge. Hechicero got in most of his trademark spots, but his bigger skill was being there for Esfinge’s moves. He was smooth in the smaller moments and sold the big dives well. The match felt longer than I was expecting it go, though they never ran out of things to do. Hechciero has become a bit CMLL-ifed, focusing on a set of trademark spots instead of mixing it up, and I found myself wishing he brought a little bit more different stuff for a bigger match. Esfinge did about as much as Esfinge is going to do, and they reached the limit of that here.

Hechicero could probably use a second taunt

The other two matches didn’t give much to write about. The opener was a standard build up trios matches for Soberano and Cavernario. Audaz working with Dragon Rojo wasn’t always smooth, but Audaz can do enough stuff with the ropes that he’s going to be fine no matter who he’s working with. The main event seemed edited down, but it’s not like Los Ingobernables matches are long. The foul came in the flow of the match but also just felt like a quick end.

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-06-17 

Jarochita lived

Recapped: 06/21/2017


All matches were taped at Arena Coliseo Guadalajara on 06/13/2017 

La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany beat La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi
(12:26 [5:33, 2:53, 4:00], 2/3, via thecubsfan, below average)

Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(12:07 [5:03, 3:01, 4:03], 1/3, via thecubsfan, ok)

Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(8:57 [3:24, 1:48, 3:45], 2/3, via thecubsfan, good)

What happened:

it stuns me Mistico does this outside of the streaming shows

Nothing really.

Whatever piece of software Televisa Guadalajara uses to block all non-news shows from airing on their internet feed failed and this full show aired for the first time in a long time. The promotion’s Facebook site neglected to post results for this show for about a week, so I decided this would be a good opportunity to get those results and see if they were doing anything noteworthy on this show. Those results turned up before I watched this, but it still felt easier than starting on another 2 hour plus CMLL stream.

This show was announced by the same crew who handle the Fuego en el Ring podcast (which might be a recent change; previous shows were done by the Super Libre radio group.) There’s in fall breaks for the tequila sponsors but not many adds in between the matches. The matches themselves seemed edit down, with time cut out from the beginning of each fall rather than condensing the matches, but they still find time to air the Ecos de Lucha Libre segments CMLL used to be airing on their Mexico City streams.


Jarochita is OK relatively when she’s not reliant on someone catching her

The matches themselves were not that interesting. The main event was the classic version of that match. They did just enough that it just barely crossed the threshold of a good match for me, though it totally felt like a nine minute and there’s plenty of longer/better versions of that sort of match. There’s not as many where the técnicos get cheered and the rudos get booed, and it made me wish we’d get a big match to slip thru under this structure, even with it being edited down.

The other matches were also exactly to form but to lesser results. The second match felt super generic, and their B- match isn’t at the level of the main event. Mephisto and Niebla Roja also had some iffy moments, as the Niebla Roja tecnico experiment is still obviously searching for the right formula.

The women’s match was full of rudas taking bad looking bumps (or being incapable of bumping at all) and the técnicos showing awkward offense, but just generally no good and not something that’d make for good GIFs – up until Skadi didn’t do much to catch Jarochita on a dive. That match was full with luchadoras who wouldn’t be in CMLL if the barrier to wrestling was based on performance, but Skadi still stands out as the least qualified. She’s more dangerous than any first match dive.

CMLL Guadalajara: 2012-02-18

taped 2012-02-14 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara

the wind took them!


Dalis la Caribeña, La Seductora, Lady Apache vs La Comandante, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit: Brief match to start the feud. Seductora did not turn out to be a surprise revelation as a tecnica. Probably a good thing time was spent elsewhere.

Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Pólvora, Rey Escorpion, Último Guerrero: Shorter version of the usual match in this feud; nothing they haven’t done more complete in Arena Mexico. The drop off from Dragon Rojo to Pólvora is not too big, which should really concerned Dragon Rojo.

La Máscara vs Volador Jr. for the NWA World Middleweight Championship: Disappointingly, a total CMLL formula singles match. They did the cavernaria spot. They did the guy tries a leg lock and puts on a cradle. They did the guy argues with a count and almost gets beat. They did the many many dives in the last fall (Mascara ran out of them.) Winning wrestler did a Super move to finally win it. I’ve see a lot of these and I’ve seen La Mascara, and this is kind of the match I could’ve just assumed from those. The great news is maybe we’ll see less Máscara singles matches without this title around (though Máscara does have the other one.)

CMLL Guadalajara: 2012-01-21

taped 2012-01-17 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara


a bad time for Electrico

Demus 3:16, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito vs Astral, Bam Bam, Eléctrico: It seems like it’s been a long time since I’ve gotten to see Demus and Bam Bam. (Research backs this up: Bam Bam hasn’t made DF TV since October, Demus since the first day of November. Hmmm.) The breaking news is they’re really good and really fun, and they need to be around more. The opening bit of rudo discord was amusing as well. Demus’ finish needs a name, besides “vastly illegal maneuver.” Or should we just call it the Abismo Negro Driver?



Titán & Triton vs Pólvora & Ráfaga: Good setup match that I forgot to take any notes for this part. This recapping thing is too hard, I should stop soon.


running in place might be the best part

Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Morphosis, Psicosis, Volador Jr. for the Mexican National Trios Championship: Just kind of a match for two falls. The third fall dive sequence was good, but what it made it notable was the back and forth sequence following that. I don’t think this was close to the Arena Mexico version of this match because that felt like a more complete one, but it was pretty exciting down the stretch. Still pretty good for 12 minutes.

CMLL Guadalajara on Teleformula #24 (12/05/2010)

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, 11/09/2010

mad bull on the loose

GDL got better once they started putting guys like Demus, Escorpion and Semental in the semimain. That wasn’t a break out match, but it was pretty sound match considering their skill levels. Escorpion’s quebrada still isn’t working for him.

They tried in the main event, but they tried to do the usual match. It was nice they didn’t walk thru it.

CMLL Guadalajara on Teleformula #2 (07/03/2010)

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, 05/11/2010

Ángel de Oro & Ángel de Plata vs Dragón Rojo Jr. & Sangre Azteca – not so good. Guys who are capable of mroe doing less because they could in this building. This is definitely where you’d prefer to see local guys working their only match of the week rather than those just trying to make thru their fifth.

Asesino Negro, Brazo de Plata, Máximo vs La Máscara, Terrible, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match – This was appropriately wacky for the stipulations. It wasn’t great but it was entertaining. If only they actually showed either match they were building towards.