04/12 AAA TV Lineup (San Luis Potosi)


AAA TV (WED) 04/12/2017 Domo de San Luis, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí
1) Bronco González, Concord, Octagoncito vs Guerrero De Plata, Hijo Del Vikingo, Mini Abismo Negro
2) Big Mami, Lady Shani, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Goya Kong, La Hiedra, Mamba
3) Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
4) Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Bengala, Drago vs El Mesías, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pagano, Súper Fly
5) Argenis, Ayako Hamada, Hijo del Fantasma vs Johnny Mundo, Kevin Kross, Taya
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Psycho Clown

Air Date: 04/22 & 04/29

Wagner/Psycho as normal on top.  They had a singles match back in October that had no finish. I wouldn’t count on a result here either.

Everything underneath is the new abnormal. If I told you six months ago that there would be a trio of Argenis, Ayako Hamada and Hijo del Fantamsa, you wouldn’t believe me. You also wouldn’t believe me if I told you six days ago. Trust issues aside, they are following up on the big issues of Rey de Reyes here. You can see some of those reflected in the 03/31 Neza card too, so we’re definitely onto the new creative team by this point and we’ll soon have an idea if the card charges are going to be a regular thing or just part of a transition.

Taya loses her title but gets an actual feud, so it’s not a loss. Fantasma and Kross are doing promos back and forth on Twitter. Argenis would be the #1 contender to the cruiserweight title if he wins the four way in Neza, so that match may be building an Argenis/Mundo match. That is a real sentence.

If Argenis winning the Rey de Reyes sword means the trio that formed of Argenis, Drago, and Aerostar will never actually get around to teaming. That was an old creative thing, may be out the window already with the person who trapped Faby Apache in a room. Aerostar & Drago found good replacement partners in an atomicos that might actually be good. Aerostar/Super Fly feuding seems like the only reason for that match but it still seems like they’re telling a story with Pagano & Mesias. They’re teaming here and back in Neza.

OGT versus the kid also a plot line. The trios match here seems like it builds on Averno & Chessman vs Lanzeloth & Mascara de Bronce back in Neza. Averno was really good at working with young high flyers in CMLL and Chessman’s done that in the past in AAA, they just haven’t been used in those roles here of late. Ricky is back after not appearing at Rey de Reyes, which suggests the surprise trios title change wasn’t about any of the OGT members leaving. Maybe the reason was just the surprise, a shock title change to fit the feeling of a lot of shocking things going on and a way to blow off the Apaches/OGT feud which seems to be downplayed or going away. It still doesn’t make a lot of sense to make the Mary & Gran Apache champions if they’re not going to be around any time soon and those titles might have been useful with the OGT with wherever they’re going with the kids, but I can’t totally object to a lucha title being taken out of play.

Shani seems to be starting as a tecnica in Neza. Pimpinela and Mamba get grouped in with the women.

I think that opener’s airing, even though it’s mostly non-AAA people. They have to get two weeks of TV out of this taping. What’s notable is those are not San Luis Potosi locals either. Concord is from Pachuca, Bronco Gonzalez usually wrestles in Mexico State, Guerrero de Plata & Hijo del Vikingo mostly work Puebla. These aren’t people who advanced in La Llave de la Gloria; there’s some other scouting/recruitment going on.

The show after this is 04/21 in Tijuana

03/19/2017 AAA TV Results (Monterrey) – Argenis wins Rey de Reyes 2017

some of these matches happened as scheduled

AAA TV (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon [Lucha Libre AAA]
2) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria b El Mesías & Pagano [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
Moved to the TV opener. Cuervo escaped, then Mesias speared Scoria thru the cage. Fans were confused, thinking the luchadors had to go over the top to get out of that match, but referees ruled that was it and gave the match to La Secta. Mesias & Pagano did not have issues. Cuervo & Scoria are owed a tag title shot now (and face Aerostar & Drago in Neza already.)
3) Ayako Hamada b Faby Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Goya Kong, Big Mami [Reina De Reinas, #1 Contenders]
Ayako Hamada was the surprise luchador, in her first AAA TV match since 2008. Mary Apache missed the match due to skull fracture and will be out indefinitely. Eliminations: Faby, Goya, Hiedra, Big Mami, Lady Shani, leaving Ayako as the winner. Ayako was wearing her Perros del Mal gear in this match.
4) Johnny Mundo b Hijo del Fantasma, Texano Jr. [AAA HEAVY, AAA CRUISER, AAA LA]
Prior to the match, Dorian Roldan and officials from Impact Wrestling (including Jeff Jarrett) came to the ring to announce a deal between AAA & Impact. They were booed. Before this match started, Vampiro put all three men’s titles on the line. Fantasma got a visual pin with a Thrill of the Hunt on a chair on Texano, but the referee was done. Texano was stretchered away. Mundo beat Fantasma after a run-in by a mystery man (Kevin Kross, but specifically given no name in the recap.0 3rd defense of the Latin American title. Fantasma loses in his eight defense of the cruiserweight title. Mundo is the 9th champion. Texano loses in his heavyweight fourth defense. Mundo is 14th champion.
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown b Monsther Clown & Murder Clown
Wagner & Psycho Clown got along enough to win. All four men were attacked and left laying by Soul Rocker, Carta Brava Jr., and Mocho Cota Jr.
6) Ayako Hamada b Taya © [Reina De Reinas]
Ayako becomes the 20th champion. Taya’s title reign ends after 2.5 years, and on her fourth defense.
7) Argenis b Averno, Chessman, Bengala, El Elegido, Pimpinela Escarlata, Niño Hamburguesa, Joe Lider, La Parka [Rey de Reyes]
Unannounced match, apparently added as the real Rey de Reyes match with the announced one becoming a title match instead. Royal rumble rules, though the last two might have gone to a pinfall (and like most AAA rumbles, no one eliminated until everyone gets in.) Eliminations: Pimpinela, Nino Hamburguesa, Elegido, Lider, La Parka, Chessman (by Averno by mistake), Bengala and Argenis defeated Averno to win.
8) Aerostar b Súper Fly [hair]
Super Fly earlier appeared on the show saying he’d hurt his arm wasn’t cleared to wrestle but he was going to do it anyway. Bloody match, with Aerostar doing a big dive off the upper level. Super Fly used knuckles to KO Aerostar for the win. Vampiro restarted the match and Aerostar came back to win.

(AAA & Impact/Anthem also announced an alliance. The recap has no more details on it.)

Air Date: 03/25 & 04/01.

The building looked full. It might have not been capacity – AAA always cuts off some of the seats to fit in the entrance – but they probably sold as many tickets as they could. Arena Coliseo Monterrey with CMLL luchadors did not do nearly as well. (Calling this show Rey de Reyes helped. If there’ anything to take from this weekend, it’s that branding events will help over the course of a few years.)

Like we saw in Apizaco, the card announced and the matches which took place changed. It was a lot more in order than content tonight, though changing how they were doing the Rey de Reyes tournament was pretty noticeable. It’s still going to take time to figure out how much of this is a purposeful attempt to make the shows feel more unpredictable and how much of this is AAA announcing lineups and then changing the creative process behind them. Neza might have been done before the change, but nothing past that has been announced (so there shouldn’t need to be more reshuffling after that, unless reshuffling is just supposed to be part of the feel of the show.)

My first impression was that it’s good to be known to the LU crew. Mundo won, Aerostar won, Argenis won (?!?!), Kevin Kross debuted. Kross is working LU dark matches and is signed so may show up in vignettes, but AAA hasn’t been bringing in many foreigners so someone had go to the back to him, probably off that Lucha Underground experience. (Kross might be getting a new name. I wonder if Vibora is next?) On the other hand, Mundo beat two other people on LU, Aerostar wasn’t losing his mask and Argenis – well, I can’t explain Argenis. And there’s other non-LU people who had a good day: Ayako Hamada isn’t on LU, and I can reveal that Carta Brava, Soul Rocker and Mocho Cota Jr. do not show up in the Temple in Season 3 to cause havoc.

Maybe the LU idea is that everyone gets something to do, and everyone gets a chance to be stars. AAA’s biggest hole is in upper level guys, and they gave big moments to a lot of people. I don’t know if the fans are going to accept Carta Brava, Soul Rocker and Mocho Cota as a faction taking on Dr. Wagner’s mask, but AAA is more interesting with them trying to do instead of just wrestling 40 straight weeks of openers in slightly different combinations. Argenis as Rey de Reyes winner is going to look so strange in the list of winners for quite a while, but there might be a bigger plan here – he’s in that Cruiserweight title match in Neza, assuming that it doesn’t change.

Mundo being both heavyweight and cruiserweight champion at the same time is sorta goofy but, as person who hates pretty much every single title belt in Mexico, I don’t have a problem with having less champions. None of the belts have been treated in a meaningful way, reducing the number of champions might help, Mundo’s the most close to being a big deal of the three right now, and it’d be a big moment if they spent five months building to Fatansma or Texano winning the titles back at TripleMania. They could do Texano/Fantasma vs Kross/Mundo in between as build up. Long term, I’d like to see the Latin American title dumped because there’s not enough TV to make three different singles titles useful, and something changed with the cruiserweight title if there’s not going to be any meaningful difference between it and heavyweight. It’s Mexico so I’m sure we’ll see those belts split apart at some point.

Mary talked about the skull fracture this week on TV. She was out for years before with a head injury, and the recap makes it sound like she might not be back any time soon from this one. The injury appears to have happened before Faby won the trios belts – maybe tehy didn’t realize how bad it was? Maybe something else is going on? Ricky Marvin took the loss to Faby and hasn’t been in AAA since, including not being on this show when AAA was getting everyone on the show. I dunno. Faby was the surprise first person out of the Reina de Reinas match, but Ayako Hamada being champion opens the door for Faby to go back to challenging to that title, which helps if she doesn’t have a healthy family member to team with.

These tapings are now a lot harder to judge just based on results and photos since things are actually happening. It’s going to take actually seeing it to have an idea about how all these things are working.

EDIT: things I thought about too late

  1. all the AAA photos show Super Fly with a short hair cut, not bald. Hmmm.
  2. main event seemed set up to give Vampiro a hero moment, which is not so great. But he appears to no longer a mysterious person off stage and an actual person who is seen.

Next taping is 03/31 in Neza.

03/05 AAA TV Results (Apizaco)


AAA TV (SUN) 03/05/2017 Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala [AAA]
1) Argenis, Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido b Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra
Argenis beat Parka Negra
2) Súper Fly b Bengala [no dq]
Moved down to the second match. Aerostar appeared, but he was still in a sling and not medically cleared. Vampiro appeared to put Bengala in the match instead.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker b Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum
Moved up to the third match. Carta beat Mascara de Bronce
4) Angélico & Australian Suicide b Dark Cuervo & Joe Lider, Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
The announced Cuervo & Zorro and Bengala & Lider teams were merged into one (and Escoria was there to interfere), but Angelico still pinned Lider for the win.
5) Faby Apache b Ricky Marvin © [AAA TRIOS]
This was originally a lumberjack match with all three Apaches versus all three OGT. Instead, it was announced Mary Apache (car accident?) and El Apache (personal issues) were out of action. Averno offered Faby a singles match with Ricky Marvin, where Faby would win the trios titles if she won but would have to retire if she lost. (It’s listed as championships vs careerS, so Faby may have put the entire families’ career on the line.) Faby accepted and defeated Marvin to win the trios titles. The Apaches are eight champions, Faby & Mary the first women to win the titles. OGT lose the titles on their second defense (first on TV).
6) Texano Jr. © b Dr. Wagner Jr. [AAA HEAVY]
Scheduled as a three way with Psycho Clown, but Psycho didn’t appear. Vampiro instead made a singles match, with Texano’s title on the line. Late in the match, Psycho Clown appeared in the crowd bloodied, and that distracted Wagner to give Texano the win.

Air Date: 03/11 & 03/18 – this starts airing this upcoming. weekend

AAA is a promotion that seems to pride itself on taking things slowly, and saving’s it peak moments for a few shows a year. Until this show, where the seven months build to Faby & Mary finally getting the best of OGT happens in a spur of the moment match. I guess it possible that AAA was changing so many matches that they felt they had to do something big to make up for it, but some of those changes (like Psycho not being in the main event) seem to be AAA choices. It’ This is just random, and make all the slow story telling frustrating when the payoff is something given a segment of set up.

Speaking of long storytelling going no where, The photo of Hijo del Tirantes raising Faby Apache’s arm to signify victory is amazing. Though not for the “women wins men’s title!” bit AAA is going with. Hijo del Tirantes has been making Faby Apache’s life for years, and has been directly been heavily feuding with her for the last few months, as one of the focal points of the TV show. Suddenly, in Cuautitlan, on the TV airing this week, Hijo del Tirantes is a neutral referee with no explanation. Faby’s greatest enemy could’ve cost her career (and maybe her families careers too), but we’re supposed to not think about that because – uh, AAA’s decided to go in a direction? AAA just couldn’t be bothered to have another referee to do the match? I dunno.

Look, I don’t want to see Hijo del Tirantes as a heel referee. The end result here is good. Just, don’t expect people to take your storylines seriously when you can’t be bothered to tell endings to them. To be fair, it’s probably not an ending, and Hijo del Tirantes will be back being a heel referee sooner or later, and none of this will ever make sense. It is so dumb that I’m spending so many words on something not making sense in AAA because that’s the default position and expecting things to change is not smart. I can’t help myself.

(Theory: Did Vampiro come in with a booking change? Because this seems like a booking change. There’s noticeably nothing on this show that built up Rey de Reyes in anyway; the only thing they accomplished was to make you think Super Fly vs Aerostar wouldn’t be happening. Vampiro’s noticeably all over this show, when authority figures haven’t been a big presence on AAA TV of late. AAA switching from going out of their way to remove Pentagon, Daga and Garza off their lineups to changing half their TV lineup and not telling anyone is also suspicious.)

AAA’s sparse on Mary & Gran Apache’s status. Presumably they’re coming back soon if they’re being included in the trios title team, but this was so spur of the moment that I wouldn’t be sure they’ll ever defend the belts until they actually do. Again, Gran Apache hasn’t been seen in a match on December 3, is a guy in his 50s who’s spent his life doing professional wrestling, and I hope he’s OK.

Angelico seems like he’s out of country starting in April, so I suspect he and Suicide’s title shot will be the new long running plot line that AAA’s forgotten. Maybe they can actually just add them to the tag title match in Neza.

Joe Lider is 2 for 2 on taking the pins since the Rebelion left, and they didn’t even need to have him in the match this time. Texano/Wagner sounds interesting until the finish. Let’s all assume Wagner beat up Psycho and never think about it again.

On the Ciudad Juarez show last night, it was announced Verano de Escandalo would take place on June 4th. That’s about halfway between Rey de Reyes and TripleMania. Who knows what’ll happen then.

Next show is Rey de Reyes on 03/19.

03/31 AAA TV Lineup (Neza)

Sanchez Lucha

AAA TV (FRI) 03/31/2017 Arena Neza
1) ? & ?? vs ??? & ????
2) Dinastía, El Elegido, Estrella Divina, Lady Shani vs La Hiedra, La Parka Negra, Mamba, Mini Abismo Negro
3) Lanzeloth & Máscara de Bronce vs Averno & Chessman
4) Niño Hamburguesa vs Australian Suicide vs Argenis vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan [AAA CRUISER, #1 Contenders]
5) Aerostar & Drago © vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria [AAA TAG]
3rd defense
6) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs El Mesías & Pagano
7) Murder Clown & Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Monsther Clown [Relevos Increíbles]

Air Date: 04/08 & 04/15

Now, I think this is a TV taping, but it’s not from AAA themselves. AAA changed the location of the taping on this day from Tampico to Neza a couple weekends back. It’s not listed as a TV taping, but the lineup is like a TV taping. It doesn’t look like an AAA TV lineup poster but of course it wouldn’t now, they let the guy go who was doing that. (It looks like a usual poster for Arena Neza; not sure if they’re just doing it because it’s the local arena and it’ll be on the local promoters now, or if they just did it before the AAA could get an official one done.)

This is the taping after Rey de Reyes, and reveals some of the plans. Murder & Monster will probably keep feuding with Wagner after Rey de Reyes, since the main event doesn’t work if they’re all friends. Wagner & Pagano’s break up is going to be dragged out longer. Cuervo & Scoria are going to pick up a tag title shot somewhere, though it could be this weekend in Apizaco or in Monterrey. Shani is on the tecnica side, so she may be turning at Rey de Reyes (or they may have just ran out of tecnicas for that day.)

The card may be subject to change. This is the weekend of WrestleMania, and Mesias is booked on one of the related shows. It’s possible other people are going too. Angelico’s not here because he’s working those shows.

That cruiserweight fourway really exposes the lack of depth on the roster. Nino Hamburguesa is a comedy opening match guy who doesn’t fit a cruiserweight mold, and he’s in there because they don’t have many better options. The other three guys haven’t been taken that seriously either, but are all just one win away from a title shot because there’s no one else. At least the winner might get a win, but that, and the oddness of OGT vs Lanzeloth and Mascara de Bronce (which could be good!), shows how few people they have around.

Estrella Divina has been with AAA since last 2015, working spots shows fairly regularly, and yet this is the exotico’s first time on TV. (Divina worked a dark match in Naucalpan when AAA seemed to be trying out Xandao for the spot as Psycho Clown opponent that eventually went to Pagano, and was on TV in a tryout match back in 2014.) My understanding is there was a storyline idea for Divina that got dropped when Konnan and AAA broke up, but Divina must’ve been well liked enough to keep getting work.

Match 5 should be good; the Aerostar section of the AAA universe is the best part of it, more so when he’s not trying to kill himself. Matches 3 and 4 could be good if things are laid out well.

The taping after this will be on 04/12 in San Luis Potosi.

03/19/2017 AAA TV Lineup (Monterrey, Rey de Reyes)


AAA (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon
1) ? & ?? vs ??? & ????
may be a dark match
2) Faby Apache vs Mary Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani, ?, Goya Kong, Big Mami [Reina De Reinas, #1 Contenders]
3) Taya © vs ? [Reina De Reinas]
4) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs El Mesías & Pagano [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
5) Aerostar vs Súper Fly [mask, hair]
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown vs Monsther Clown & Murder Clown [falls count anywhere]
7) Hijo del Fantasma vs Texano Jr. vs Johnny Mundo [Rey de Reyes]

Air Date: 03/25 and 04/01; perhaps the show could air live, but there’s no indication of that right now.

Remember the story about AAA having everything planned out thru April? I’m not sure about that story now. Maybe just they had the venues planned, or maybe a lot of things went out of the window when people left, because there’s stuff here that are left turns from where they were going before. Lady Shani goes for Taya’s challenger to just one person in a match, Psycho & Wagner are suddenly on the same side, the OGT and the Apaches aren’t in a match, and Fantasma & Texano go from doing nothing to main eventing a show? Super Fly versus Aerostar was set up at Guerra de Titanes, Wagner vs Psycho is the year long program, and the Clowns betraying Wagner will air this week or next, and nothing else that’s airing in these first few months seems to matter all that much.

Maybe the biggest change is the venue. This week’s TV finally announced it, but announced it as Plaza de Toros Monumental (about 11K fans.) The poster has it in Arena Jose Sulaiman, the old Arena Solidaridad. I can’t find a capacity right now, but that’s more in the 6k range, give or take 2K. AAA’s sold out a lot of shows by being wise in which arenas they’re going to, and running the smaller arena is probably a wise move with this lineup. The Aerostar/Super Fly match is the only one that feels like it means anything and they’re usually midcard guys. (They were show opening guys last time AAA was in Monterrey.) There are a couple of matches I’d like to see, but AAA’s still rebuilding star power and there’s no special guest stars here to help outside of the periodic Mundo & Taya appearances. I think they’ll do ok, AAA seems to have a way of filling arenas, but they’re also putting together another big card that just seems like marking time until TripleMania. There’s one show they’re interested in loading up this year and it’s not Rey de Reyes.

If AAA told it, there’s an interesting story to the main event. It’s AAA’s three singles champions (Fantasma is Cruiserweight, Texano is Heavyweight, Mundo is Latin American) having a match to determine who’s the king of the kings. All three guys have no challengers, because of departures or lack of interest on AAA’s part, and this could work as a reset point. AAA’s small roster doesn’t really have a need for three different singles tiles, and if they just treated the winner of this as the guy who was actually The Man, they might be able to make one of the titles mean something. All three guys are generally considered talented luchadors, but have generally had OK to good matches for the longest time. They can fix that, and maybe it’s AAA’s best shot at a non-apuesta MOTYC caliber match this year.

Guerra de Titanes set up title matches for Mundo & Taya at Rey de Reyes. Given how sparingly they’re being used, I’d figured that meant they’d both lose their titles on the same day, and they wouldn’t be around much going forward. (Taya supporting Pentagon and others on Twitter so publicly also makes it seem like she’s not worried about AAA’s feelings going forward.) That doesn’t look to be what’s happening now. Taya will still defend her title, but Mundo isn’t scheduled to defend his and so they both must be sticking around for a while longer.

Psycho Clown is kind of a dummy if he actually teams with one enemy to face two other enemies, but Psycho Clown is always kind of a dummy so it works out I guess. He probably could use some promo time to explain why on earth he’d do such a thing (and why seeing him and Wagner make peace is going to make us want to see them fight for their masks.) That match just doesn’t make any sense to me. Falls count anywhere means they’ll have a big stunt somewhere. I suspect it’s some space filler for whatever the Rebelion guys were going to do.

I don’t think a single person believes Super Fly is winning Aerostar’s mask on this show, but the match itself has the potential to be good. Their TV work has been good, both will try hard in an apuesta match, and the crowd will be into it. The problem, and why my hopes are not as high as they might be, is every AAA singles match is actually a lame two on one handicap match, with the rudo second interfering freely and the tecnico second standing around meekly until they get in their one dive at the end. Carta Brava and Drago are the seconds, and there’s no reason to expect AAA to stop doing this until they actually run one normal. The upside is AAA’s roster turnover has essentially led to Aerostar being pushed as one of the top tecnicos, and who would’ve thought that would’ve ever happened.

AAA’s lost track of their tag team titles or are being confusing or just wanted to put Pagano & Mesias in a tag team match to do their breakup and nothing else matters. There’s already a #1 contenders match in Apizaco with the Piratas, Angelico & Suicide, Bengala & Joe Lider and Cuervo and someone replacing Zorro. I keep checking the AAA website every few days to see if they’ve redone the poster and put Scoria in, and Zorro’s still there every day. AAA rushed to get Pentagon and friends off the lineups, not so much with this one. Anyway, the tag champions are Drago & Aerostar, so it would’ve figured to be a rudo team, and Scoria & Cuervo made more sense than the Piratas. Except, they’re probably not going to get two #1 contender spots, so it’s going to be someone else. Angelico & Suicide would make sense, but Angelico’s got a lot of outside Mexico bookings the next few months. Or maybe La Secta win the shot and put that up against Pagano & Mesias? I dunno. In the long run, I’d suspect Mesias & Pagano are heading to some sort of death match at TripleMania, but it wouldn’t be too big of a stretch for AAA to actually have them win to keep stringing out the breakup. Whenever you think an AAA angle has gone long, they’ll make it go a little big longer.

I suspect Lady Shani is still getting the title shot, and the women’s match is just a way to give her a win before going into the title match. It’s unlikely she’ll get two. There are plenty of luchadors in Monterrey who could fill the mystery spot, which almost has to be a new person given there’s almost no one else left in AAA. (Hechicera is still around, still never on TV.) They could also do the Pimpinela comedy bit, forgetting they’ve already done the Pimpinela wins the women’s title as comedy bit.

I’m cautiously interested in the main event. I want to see whatever crazy thing Aerostar is going to do. Everything else seems not too promising – two different tag team matches where we know a team is going to split up, and the two women’s matches will probably have OGT and other nonsense. AAA hasn’t run an iPPV since TripleMania and there’s no reason to believe this one will be on iPPV either.

Next taping is 03/31 in Tampico.

02/11/2017 AAA TV Results (Cuautitlán)


AAA TV (SAT) 02/11/2017 Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estadio de México [AAA]
1) Dave The Clown, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker b Atomic Boy, Bengala, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce
Moved to the opener. Prior to the match, a moment of applause was held for the recently deceased Chavo Guerrero. Soul Rocker got a very rare pinfall win, fouling Bengala to accomplish it. It’s Soul’s first TV win since May.
2) Dinastía & Octagoncito b Mini Psicosis & Mini Psycho Clown
Mini Abismo was replaced by Mini Psicosis, in his first TV appearance since 2013. Psycho beat Dinastia and (again) challenged him to a title match, but so did Octagon & Mini Psicosis.
3) Carta Brava Jr. & Súper Fly b Aerostar & Argenis
Super Fly moved out of the way of an Aerostar tope con giro, and Aerostar was hurt. He was stretchered out, and Carta pinned Argenis.
4) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria b Faby Apache & Mary Apache and Averno & Chessman
Billed as a trios match with OGT & the Apaches. No reason given why Marvin & El Apache were missing, or why Cuervo and Scoria were added. They won in their first TV match since Zorro quit AAA.
5) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. b El Mesías & Pagano
Texano Jr. & Hijo del Fantasma replaced Daga & Pentagon Jr. on 01/25. They got the win when Mesias & Pagano had issues. Pagano was going to splash Fantasma thru a table when Mesias pulled him off and Pagano went thru on his own. Fantasma beat Pagano with the Thrill of the Hunt.
6) Dr. Wagner Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown b Angélico, La Parka, Psycho Clown
Dr. Wagner replaced Dave the Clown on 01/25. Monster & Murder betrayed Wagner (no explanation) but Wagner still beat Psycho Clown. Wagner declared nothing would stand in his way of getting Psycho Clown’s mask at TripleMania.

Air Date: 02/25 & 03/05

There’s no real explanation for Monster & Murder’s betrayal. AAA track’s records for storylines being explained later is poor; they’d have to pull off the next half dozen of them well to get up to “below average.”. Something is going to have to happen here, because Wagner needs tag partners for these never ending trios matches with Psycho Clown. (Maybe Wagner can be an OGT?) He’ll be fine on the next taping, since that’s simply a three way match.

Pagano splitting with Mesias at the same time as his clown buddies are splitting with Wagner could mean they’re doing some tweener stable with all the evil clown characters. Pagano feels like the Pentagon replacement, which is odd because they started the Pagano turn before Pentagon actually left. (Then again, the way they had been using Pentagon – and Fenix before he left – suggested AAA didn’t have faith they were staying and was already moving on with them. They may have been guessing at a Pentagon departure and got it right.) Pagano, Murder, Monster and Dave being a Perros del Mal replacement is far from ideal, but AAA hasn’t left themselves many options at the moment.

As fan of good wrestling matches, it’s mildly disappointing that AAA is spending all this creative energy on those four guys and Texano & Fantasma continue to be generic talented guys to fill out the midcard. AAA obviously thinks highly of Fantasma, he seems to have taken Taya’s spot as AAA luchador not named La Parka at all the public relations functions, but it doesn’t translate into programming much. I’m excited to see him take on Low Ki out here in Chicago on Friday, and I’m unsure if we’ll get to see him have any sort of interesting match in AAA. He’s everything AAA wants out of a wrestler, has been one of the few people out there defending AAA in recent times, something the people who own the company seem afraid to do, and he still is just a guy on the show. AAA is eventually going to give him something to do – if only because there’s so few people around that they’ll have no choice – but it should be a bigger priority than the times and travails of Monster Clown.

I’m not sure if Apache was hurt or Marvin was hurt or if they simply just wanted to get Cuervo & Scoria a TV win to make a point about Zorro, or all of those things. I do now there was no mention of the word “Xinetez” in the recap. They were still wearing their orange pants, but not the rest of the Xinetez related gear. The concept may be done. Edit: Cuervo & Scoria confirmed to +Lucha that Xinetez is done and they’re back to being La Secta.

Mini Psicosis last appeared on TV in 2013. His last TV appearance was for the short lived IWL TV show on TVC Deportes, a thing I’m sure you don’t believe actually exists but you’ll have to trust me. His last AAA TV appearance was a few months earlier, when he challenges Dinastia for this same title and lost. Nothing much has happened in the last three years, and AAA’s back to the usual thing to do with the minis: multiman title match. At leas they’ve sort of set it up this time.

I keep saying saying referring to those past things as “his”, as possessive, but it’s hard to tell if a masked man who’s been off three years is actually the same masked man. I’d guess Mini Abismo’s reoccurring knee injury flared up, but who knows. I don’t think he quit, but I wouldn’t have guessed at Zorro quitting. Everything in AAA is unknowable except Dr. Wagner versus Psycho Clown.

The next taping is on 03/05 in Apizaco, Tlaxcala; we’re still waiting on an updated lineup with Zorro, but maybe that’ll turn up Monday. AAA’s next big event is the 02/25 La Llave de Gloria tryout.

01/27/2017 AAA TV Results (Toluca)


AAA TV (FRI) 01/27/2017 Salón Rojo del Club Toluca, Toluca, Estado de México [AAA]
Attendance: 3000
1) Dinastía, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce b Mini Psycho Clown, Parka Negra, Soul Rocker
Mascara de Bronce beat Mini Psycho with a Spanish Fly. Parka Negra replaced Apache.
2) Goya Kong & Lady Shani b Big Mami & Faby Apache
Rudas won thanks to a Chessman distraction on Fabi.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Súper Fly b Aerostar, Argenis, Bengala
Super Fly put Aerostar thru a table
4) Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown b Averno, Chessman, Joe Lider
Averno & Chessman replaced Daga & Pentagon on 01/23 and this was moved down a spot. Fabi distracted the OGT team, leading to Monsther beating Lider. Lider & Kahn-Del-Mal were still wearing Perros del Mal shirts. Averno blamed them for the loss and mocked them for being left behind.
5) Angélico, Australian Suicide, La Parka b Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
La Parka replaced Garza Jr. and this was moved up. Angelico beat Scoria with the Fall of the Angels
6) Hijo del Fantasma, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. b Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Pagano
Los Totalmente Traidors (which now appear to officially include Dave) tried to interfere. Piero kicked them out, and Wagner told them to go. Psycho Clown beat Wagner after fouls both way. Mesias & Pagano had problems during the match.

Air Date: 02/11 & 02/18

Show sold out about five hours before bell time. AAA noted it at that time, at the start of the show, and a couple times during the show. It seemed like the most important part of the show. The local promoter said the building could hold the same 3,000 as Gimnasio Agustin Milan (currently undergoing renovations) earlier in the week. AAA didn’t and does not announce numbers. The attendance bit probably was intended to be a message & to partner local promoters: everything is still fine, maybe even better than fine. It still came of as a implied message about those who left: they don’t matter, we’er fine without them. (La Parka, who doesn’t seem to use Twitter all that much, made an effort to note how much the crowd was behind Joe Lider last night. You can go back months without him even mentioning anyone but himself and where he’s going – that’s not how he normally uses Twitter.) That’s great for AAA, and great for the people who work for AAA. It’s not a great message for a person who would like to care about these people and the luchas they’re having, but are being informed repeatedly that pretty much all of them this week (with the possible exception of Wagner & Psycho) are interchangeable and wouldn’t be missed if they were gone tomorrow. This was a good night for the business of the wrestling business but not as good if you’re into it for the wrestling portion.

There was no sign of any real change or effect from the departures, with the only acknowledgement in front of the crowd being the highlighted line to Joe Lider. Prior to the departures, AAA was said to have the first four months of the year already planned out. It appears they’re just sticking to that plan, just with those guys left out. Even the speed isn’t changing: AAA’s going to flip Pagano eventually, but they’re sticking with the timeline they have in mind (Rey de Reyes tournament final?) instead of doing it now to create new matchups. No one stepping up as Mundo’s challenge makes me think we might not know what’s happening there until the Rey de Reyes card is announced. Perhaps Psycho finally got to win a match just to make sure things ended on a positive note, but they caravan is still headed in the same general direction it was a week ago.

If you’re not into Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner, you might get Aerostar & Super Fly doing some cool thing in between a lot of interference, and the openers now look like they’re generally going to be fun since the lesser workers have been moved out of them to fill gaps higher on the card, but there’s probably not going to much more than that for you in AAA thru TripleMania. You may be fine with ath if you are into Psycho & Wagner, and you may not if those things aren’t enough, but at least it’s easy to figure out if you’re in or not.


Given the current climate, people missing shows without acknowledgement is going to be read into m more than normal when it’s still probably the same nothing. It’s AAA and general lucha libre policy to not acknowledge when people are missing a show, be it for a day or forever. I don’t agree with that policy even normally, but it seems like an especially ill considered idea when many of your fans are wondering who will next to leave. I’m pretty sure Apache is simply injured, because I’m possibly the sole person not employed by AAA who pays attention to AAA spot shows results and he’s been missing those dates (as well as being a 50 year old man who’s wrestled for a long time.) It’s a safe bet Drago had a similar issue, but AAA not acknowledging it makes it a issue where it’s not meant to be one.

Joe Lider still being a Perros del Mal is not much of a surprise, but it’s probably not going to be clear until it airs if the way Lider was humiliated was meant to be a end for the idea, or the start of Lider rallying back (maybe with new partners) to gain revenge.

Next taping is 02/11, a Saturday, in Cuautitlán.

03/05/2017 AAA TV Lineup (Tlaxcala)


AAA TV (SUN) 03/05/2017 Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala
1) Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker
2) Argenis, Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido vs Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra
3) Aerostar vs Súper Fly [no dq]
4) Dark Cuervo & Zorro vs Bengala & Joe Lider and Angélico & Australian Suicide and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
5) Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
6) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Texano Jr.

Air Date: 03/11 & 03/18

This follows the taping Friday in Toluca and on 02/11 in Cuautitlan. It’s the last show before (what’s believed to be but hasn’t officially been announced as) Rey de Reyes in Monterrey on 03/19.  It’s AAA’s first taping in this city in ten years; that was a very different show.

AAA’s been running three way main events on spot shots for about a year straight, and it’s only a surprise they took this long to come to TV. Psycho & Wagner are in a holding pattern for another five months, and heavyweight champion Texano’s thrown in. There’s no obvious sign of Rey de Reyes matches for any of these guys. I suspect they’re doing another miscellaneous trios match with Wagner & Psycho at Rey de Reyes as in Guerra de Titanes, but maybe having Texano in there will set something up.

There’s no obvious sign of a Rey de Reyes tournament this year too. With the people they have on hand, and with three singles matches already set (Taya/Shani, Mundo/TBD, Super Fly/Aerostar), it’s probably not going to be a lot of fourway matches leading to a fourway. Hey, I could do this:

Rey de Reyes guess

  1. relevos AAA
  2. Taya vs Shani
  3. Rey de Reyes (royal rumble? they’ll have a lot of midcarders with nothing to do)
  4. Super Fly vs Aerostar, mask vs mask
  5. Wagner/Psycho trios match
  6. Johnny Mundo vs a replacement for Daga

Really, the replacement for Daga is the most interesting thing on the show.

AAA’s roster still is deep enough to run two shows at once, at least at the moment. This is the same day as a show in Juarez that’s seen changes. They are stretched thin enough that Villano IV has to wrestle on that show, and this show looks thin as well. There’s no sign yet of any added talent, new or returning, though it wasn’t clear until now if either Pirata Morgan Jr. or Atomic Boy were still with AAA since neither had appeared in a while. They got the call here.

The tag title #1 contenders match is strange, because it can’t happen for some time: Aerostar’s going to be too busy to defend his half of the title at Rey de Reyes. AAA’s normal time scale means the resulting title match likely won’t happen until Verano de Escandalo in June, and that’s a long way to go to hope nothing else happens. Pentagon and Garza were suppose to be in Juarez, but I suspect the four way was originally booked with Daga in Bengala’s spot. That team would’ve also made sense as the challengers to Aerostar & Drago. Angelico & Suicide seem like the best option, but a tecnico/tecnico match might not make sense. There are bigger problems, though.

This is only the six combination of OGT vs the Apaches match since TripleMania, but it feels like many more. It’s technically a lumberjack match, which means it’s a comedy match in what might have been a serious feud at one point. Aerostar/Super Fly should have cool spots, but a no DQ singles match will probably look like the normal AAA interference laden singles match, only with the referee not looking as dumb. Second match is an amazing collection of human beings. Opener is good.

01/20 AAA TV Results (Ciudad de Mexico) – Guerra de Titanes


AAA TV (FRI) 01/20/2017 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [AAA, ESTO, Estrellas del Ring, R de Rudo, Record, SuperLuchas]
Guerra de Titanes, 2017
Attendance: 5000
1) Dave The Clown, Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown b Bengala, Big Mami, Dinastía, Pimpinela Escarlata
Shani got the pin on Pimpi. Taya came to the ring after the match and Shani challenged her for a title match. Taya, Mundo, Mesias instead beat up all the rudos. Earlier, Bengala did a moonsault of the upper level.
2) Averno & Chessman b Faby Apache & Mary Apache
Xinetez helped OGT win, but said their would be a price to pay for their help.
3) Aerostar & Súper Fly L Argenis, Australian Suicide, Angélico, Carta Brava Jr., Daga [cage]
Moved down a spot. Daga entered himself into the cage match (maybe to beat Australian Suicide again; it wasn’t made clear.) Order of escape was Carta Brava, Argenis, Angelico, Daga and Australian Suicide. Aerostar and Super Fly were the last two and ended up bloody. They advance to an apuesta match at Rey de Reyes.
4) Hijo del Fantasma b Garza Jr. [AAA CRUISER]
Moved up a spot. Fantasma won with the Thrill of the Hunt in what’s aid to be a good match. 5th defense (4th on TV)
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Pagano b La Parka, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr.
Moved down a spot. Monster & Murder helped Wagner win. Pagano and Mesias had issues.
6) Johnny Mundo b Pentagón Jr. [AAA LA]
Moved up a spot. Taya got involved often and hit Pentagon with a light tube to win. 2nd defense. Daga demanded a title shot.

Air Date: 01/28 & 02/04

Mundo & Taya beat up their fellow heels earlier in the show. Pentagon did a pro-Mexico speech in front of a sold out crowd on a highly charged day. The match was moved to the main event, the last thing fans would see that night. It was a dream scenario to make some a top star, a chance to create a memory those fans would have forever, and definitely in mind next time they’re buying a ticket to an AAA event. Instead, AAA did the same match they always do, with lots of interference and Pentagon failing. At least we have some certainty with Pentagon: he’s not going to be a top guy in AAA and will have to go elsewhere if he ever wants to be that guy. No idea if he will. It’s hard to imagine Daga is going to get the win Pentagon wouldn’t get, but it’s hard to understand AAA’s thought process so maybe he will.

Otherwise, they’ve set up Aerostar vs Super Fly and maybe Taya vs Lady Shani for Rey de Reyes. In the window of time after the opener and before the main event, it looked like Taya/Shani was happening so Taya could drop the Reina de Reinas title with her and Mundo finishing up as regulars. Perhaps that’s still happening at Rey de Reyes, but it seems less likely. Shani picked up a couple of previously unlikely wins on the last few TV tapings of the year (including the show airing today), so AAA might have been planning towards that title match for a while.

Mesias & Pagano having issues and Mesias being with Mundo & Taya earlier in the show seem to suggest Pagano is eventually going tecnico. It still seems early for that, and maybe it’s early enough on that it’ll change. On the other hand, this week’s WON said everything in AAA had been planned out until at least April, so they know what direction they’re going with all of this. Mesias & Pagano are booked together on the next two tapings, so there’s space for them to so a split up if that’s happening.

ESPN Deportes writes AAA will hold a press conference Tuesday for Psycho Clown and Dr. Wagner Jr. to sign for their mask match. AAA hasn’t said anything about this yet. This has to be the third or fourth time AAA’s done an announcement for the match, though it’ll obviously get more attention by making it a public event. The same article says TripleMania will be back in Arena Ciudad de Mexico. That’s probably the smart move; it was a strain to figure out how they’d fill up a bigger arena, and nothing they did last night would’ve helped to do that.

Next taping is next Friday in Toluca.

02/11/2017 AAA TV Lineup (Cuautitlan)

AAA TV (FRI) 02/10/2017 Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estadio de México
1) Bengala, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
2) Dinastía & Octagoncito vs Mini Abismo Negro & Mini Psycho
3) Aerostar & Argenis vs Carta Brava Jr. & Súper Fly
4) El Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
5) Daga & Pentagón Jr. vs El Mesías & Pagano
6) Angélico, La Parka, Psycho Clown vs Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown

Edit: this taping was later moved to 02/11.

Air date: 02/18 and 02/25, or thereabouts

What can you say about this AAA lineup that can’t be said about any other one? The main feuds are still the same. There’s still no sure fire great matches, but the undercard matches might be ok. There’s still people who aren’t intersting and it’s still the same people. Not much is changing.

Maybe that’s the story. The old AAA frustration is how they would do a lot at the big shows and not a lot inbetween. Maybe the newer AAA is doing the same, but the only big show is TripleMania. Wagner versus Psycho was announced a year ahead of time, and they might have been able to do the same with the Apaches and OGT. They’ve not moved that feud along an centimeter since TripleMania. The mystery person diversion was dropped on the last two tapings, like so many other AAA mysteries, so perhaps nothing is coming from that.  They’re now doing the trios match they advertised in October in February, and maybe they’ll get around to a title match in March. That doesn’t leave much time (at least by AAA pace) to start another feud. It’s a 18 month build to Faby and Mary vs Averno and Chessman, or Faby vs Tirantes, or some such, only it’ll be more like a three month build with 15 months of running in place. Even if the destination was attractive, the journey is not.

The third match is related to the cage match at Guerra de Titanes and the apuesta match at Rey de Reyes. AAA has me rooting for Argenis vs Carta not because it’s the best match, but because it’ll be an actual surprise. Not a good idea to root for those things, but Carta being in the match might finally solve the Carta Brava identity controversy.

Angelico in a main event seems like such a positive thing, execpt it’s fairly obvious he’s not going to get to do most of what he can do. Maybe he’s got a secret comedy side?

Dave being in the main event is fairly ridiculous. He is easily the worst guy on the whole show. Any one of the rudos in the opening match would do better in that spot. You could take any indie guy in that spot and they would do the same or better, because that’s what AAA has done. It’s also the same problem with Parka Negra: AAA’s done nothing to make people care about them, they’re just dropped into top matches without explanation. No one is getting over that way unless they’re an incredible worker, and that’s not Dave.

Maybe AAA believes they can annoint anyone a star by just putting them on TV. They could point to Pagano, who is clearly their 2016 success story, but Pagano got a cool introduction, time to talk, and an indie rep. The people they’ve introduced since have not gotten any of that. The biggest challenge AAA has in 2017 is to make new stars to replace those they’ve lost, and ust placing people in main events is not enough.

On that note, and noticing Johnny Mundo is not around after Guerra de Titanes, Petagon has to win that title match. Not only win, but win clean, and win dominantly. (Go watch his AAW title win, where he beat up Callihan’s entire crew by himself before winning without any controversy, and steal all that.) Pentagón is the rare modern lucha protagonist who the crowd won’t boo for being successful, and AAA must take advantage of it when they can. Mundo will be fine if he’s gone for months anyway. Same thing at the top here” Psycho has to start beating everyone not named Wagner, or they’re wasting a year of build. AAA needs to be more afraid of missing star making chances than losing people.