06/04 AAA TV Lineup (Ciudad Juárez) – six way mask match headlines Verano de Escandalo

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AAA TV (SUN) 06/04/2017 Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
1) Aerostar, Bengala, Drago vs Australian Suicide, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce
2) Argenis, La Parka, Ricky Marvin vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
3) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © vs El Mesías & Pagano [AAA TAG]
second defense
4) Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba [bull terrier, hair]
5) Hijo del Fantasma vs Kevin Kross
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Psycho Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Carta Brava Jr., Soul Rocker [mask]

Air Date: 06/17 & 06/24

This is after Tlaxcala and after Pachuca, and about six weeks from now.  It also doesn’t appear to be an official poster, since the photos of Cuervo & Scoria are still as Xinetez. Maybe we’ll get an update down the line, but AAA probably would’ve preferred to keep this quiet at least until after this Saturday’s taping.

Four matches were already announced – it’s only the tag title tag & singles match which are newly revealed, and those fit where things appear to be going. It does confirm Taya & Mundo aren’t going to be around for a moment. They’ll probably turn up again before TripleMania, but the pacing suggests Fantasma versus Mundo for the titles on that show. (Of course, they did a tease for Jarrett/Fantasma on TV this week, so nothing’s for sure.)

The main event theoretically has a chance to disrupt the one match we know for sure for TripleMania, but no one’s really going to be too worried about. Any of the other four people could lose, but Soul Rocker would make more sense – he’s got an unmasked gimmick, and the Infierno Rockers have otherwise been dropped.

Pagano’s either winning the tag titles or having a violent breakup with Mesias in his hometown. Either way, this is a long way to set up the same match AAA ran on the last major show, with Cuervo & Scoria (so far) not seeming any more over than they were before.

That match, like all others, are subject to change. Mamba/Pimpinela seems most likely, because you’d only know it’s happening based on stuff coming out of Juarez. The feud’s been hinted at TV, but you’d have to know it was there to even think they were going somewhere with it.

AAA hasn’t officially announced a taping past this point on TV, but the Nuevo Laredo promoters are already advertising a date on the 19th.

Poder del Norte & Taya are new champs (04/21 AAA TV results from Tijuana)

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AAA TV (FRI) 04/21/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [AAA, El Tijuanese]
0) El Hijo del Medico Asesino & Fantastik b Clásico & Enigma
dark/locals match
1) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown b El Mesías & Pagano
Traidor clowns won after Scoria & Cuervo cost Mesias & Pagano the match
2) Ricky Marvin b Chessman
Ricky Marvin came out in an OGT shirt to face no clear opponents, when Averno & Chessman confronted him. This set up Ricky/Chessman, and Ricky won with La Parka countering Averno.
3) Ayako Hamada © b Taya [Reina De Reinas, street]
A street fight, with Taya bleeding. Said to be a very good match. Ayako falls on first defense and needed medical attention after the match. Taya is now a two time champion.
4) Aerostar & Drago b Killshot & Marty The Moth
Lucha Underground match. Shane Strickland was announced as Killshot but wrestling unmasked in his Shane Strickland gear. Aerostar pinned Killshot for the win.
5) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © b Australian Suicide & Bengala [AAA TAG]
unannounced title match. First defense for Cuervo & Scoria. Suicide & Bengala, Pagano & Mesias and Aerostar & Drago all wanted to get at the champions after the match.
6) Kevin Kross b Hijo del Fantasma [tables]
Prior to the match, Texano came out to announce his neck injury is no longer serious, but it’ll be a while before he returns to the ring. He seconded Fantasma in the next match and was taken out. Kross put Fantasma thru a table (though Kross speared thru a table himself earlier.)
7) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker b Dr. Wagner Jr., Faby Apache, Psycho Clown © [AAA TRIOS]
Nuevo Poder del Norte demanded a trios title shot. Faby brought out Wagner & Psycho as the other members of her team (instead of her sister and father.) Taya attacked Faby with a chair to give the rudos the win. Faby falls on her first defense.

Air Date: 05/06 & 05/13, likely.

They honored Joaquin Roldan prior to the show.

I’ll write the same things I write every time now: They filled the building, that’s good. They advertised a Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner match and didn’t deliver and that seems dangerous towards TripleMania but maybe they’ll get away with it. They changed most of the card and fans should not take AAA lineups seriously at this point, though they still might end up with a better card. (This show had 2 titles matches advertised, ended up with 3, hope EMW didn’t spend money on a belt that’s never going to be used.)

Vampiro says Taya/Ayako was one of the top five matches of all time. People there thought pretty highly of the match as the match of the night. Taya coming back at the end to get Faby seems to point in that direction, but AAA spend two years not doing that match so it also could just be a return to the old nothing happening status quo. (There is a five way women’s match on the next show that could double as a #1 contenders match, if it happens at all.) Ayako’s not listed on any shows going forward, so it’s possible this was it for her. If it was, and at least AAA made heavy use of Ayako was she was around, a nice improvement from previous short guests. If she’s sticking around, maybe there’s more good matches to come.

The trios title stuff is all bizarre looking, but probably about what they had planned. The OGT had to lose the belts quick because they were splitting Ricky out of the group, Poder del Norte needs whatever credibility they can get from winning them, and it made the most sense to use the Apaches in between so they could get the big win if that feud is being dropped. They may have actually hoped to have Mary & Apache involved – Mary’s injury was a last minute thing, no one’s saying what the deal is with the father (a very troubling sign given history of ill people stops talking about) – but Wagner & Psycho fit with the more important story they’ll telling.

The Texano thing is hard to predict. This could be Texano doing a heroic return from injury to go after Mundo, or it could be Texano faking a neck injury to betray Fantasma and join Mundo/Taya/Kross. Texano is actually healthy enough to be in the ring, he wrestled last Friday in Naucalpan, so he should really be fine for whatever they’re setting up.

Verano de Escandalo looking like

  • Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown vs Carta Brava Jr. & Soul Rocker in some sort of apuesta match
  • maybe Mamba vs Pimpinela in a hair match
  • maybe Mundo/Kross vs Texano/Fantasma
  • maybe Cuervo/Scoria vs Pagano/Mesias vs Aerostar/Drago vs Suicide/Bengala for the tag titles
  • maybe Chessman, Averno, Super Fly vs La Parka, Ricky Marvin and a third person
  • maybe Faby/Taya/Ayako
  • and one more match

That’s three tapings away. The next show is a week from today, April 29th, in Tlaxcala.

Edit: El Tijuanese’s recap of the show adds the dark match (with promoter Medico Asesino), and includes Monster & Murder among those looking for a tag title shot.

05/16 AAA TV (Pachuca) – Wagner/Psycho scheduled

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AAA TV (TUE) 05/16/2017 Arena Aficion
1) Concord & Guerrero De Plata vs Bronco González Jr. & Hijo Del Vikingo
2) Lady Shani & Pimpinela Escarlata vs La Hiedra & Mamba
3) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown vs Carta Brava Jr. & Soul Rocker
4) Australian Suicide & Bengala vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria
5) Aerostar & Drago vs El Mesías & Pagano
6) Argenis, La Parka, Ricky Marvin vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
7) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr.

Air Date: 06/03 & 06/10. There’s over two weeks between this and the previous taping (Tlaxcala on the 29th) but the busy run of tapings in late March and April will stack up a big backload. As a result, this show won’t finish airing until 25 days after it tapes. This is the one and only taping in May, so that gap will shrink back down a bit.

It’s also a partial lame duck taping. AAA could still set up things on this show, but the first half of it won’t air until the day prior to Verano de Escandalo and the other half won’t air until after. There’s no real exceptional matches on paper, making this feel like a taping that’s going to be quickly forgotten.

Of course, the matches on paper are likely not to be the exact matches which happen. There are matches which flow into the current storylines – Ricky Marvin joining the tecnicos to fight OGT, Pimpinela and Mamba matched up – but there’s no telling if they’ll be changed. Cuervo & Scoria and Mesias & Pagano could be picking up wins before their match in Juarez, but then they could all end up in an atomicos for what we know.

The four guys in the opener are the same exact four guys as in San Luis Potosi, so they could be regular additions to the crew. Maybe we should give them one more appearance to be sure.

Next taping is June 4th in Ciudad Juarez for Verano de Escandalo. It’s still a long way from happening, but we may have a good idea of what’s the plan after Friday night’s show in Tijuana.

04/12 AAA TV Results (San Luis) – Poder del Norte agree to apuesta match w/Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner

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AAA TV (WED) 04/12/2017 Domo de San Luis, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí [AAA, Rostro Oculto]
1) Concord, Hijo Del Vikingo, Octagoncito b Bronco González, Guerrero De Plata, Mini Abismo Negro
billed as La Llave de la Gloria prep. Losing side names not confirmed (there’s at least one change from the original lineup)
2) Big Mami, Lady Shani, Pimpinela Escarlata b Goya Kong, La Hiedra, Mamba
Mami pinned Goya. Mamba & Pimpi feuded.
3) Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly b Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum
Super Fly replaced Ricky Marvin on the OGT team. Ricky ran in post match to attack Chessman & Averno, but Pirata Morgan helped out the rudos (and maybe is in OGT?) La Parka saved Ricky Marvin.
4) El Mesías & Pagano b Australian Suicide & Drago and Aerostar & Bengala
Changed from an atomicos to a three way #1 contenders tag match (w/no Hijo del Pirata & Super Fly moved to another amtch.) Mesias & Pagano beat Australian & Bengala to earn the shot, though were said to have issues with each other thanks to Cuervo & SCoria
5) Johnny Mundo, Kevin Kross, Taya b Argenis, Ayako Hamada, Hijo del Fantasma [no dq]
Turned into a no DQ match somewhere along the way, so Taya used a chair to defeat Ayako. Vampiro announced Taya & Ayako would now have a street fight for the Reina de Reinas title in Tijuana, while Mundo would have to defend all three titles against Fantasma on the same show.
6) Carta Brava Jr. & Soul Rocker b Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown
Nuevo Poder del Norte attacked Wagner & Psycho before they could have their singles match, so Vampiro turned it into a tag match. Mocho Cota Jr. helped his team get the win, and they pushed their luck by challenging Psycho & Wagner to an apuesta match at Verano de Escandalo. Psycho & Wagner accepted.

The show began with a remembrance of Joaquin Roldan, with his family in the ring and Marisela saying a few words. They had two urns at ringside, with the Joaquin one joining the Antonio Pena one.

Air Date: 04/22 and 04/29 (though there’s a small chance it could be compressed into one show.)

A long term plan does seem to be emerging from the chaos. The Verano de Escandalo (06/04 in Juarez) card is looking like

  • Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown vs Soul Rocker & Carta Brava in some sort of apuesta match (2 v 2? 1 mask on the line?)
  • Mesias & Pagano vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria for the tag team titles (happening, but timing is unknown)
  • Pimpinela versus Mamba in a hair match (advertised locally, hinted at on TV)
  • OGT (Averno, Chessman, Super Fly, Pirata?) vs Ricky Marvin, La Parka, two more (Drago & Aerostar could fit here)

There’s nothing yet for Taya & Mundo, but they’re got stuff for Tijuana. Mundo facing Fantasma is notable because Mundo wasn’t even scheduled to be on Tijuana when they had he poster. Fantasma was supposed to have a table match with Kevin Kross, and perhaps Johnny slides in there. Taya/Ayako had already been announced but they’re adding a stipulation for it.

There were last card changes on this one, but the changing the advertised singles main event is a pretty big one. Soul Rocker & Carta Brava can beat Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner ever day for the next two months and few are going to believe Poder del Norte is going to beat the TripleMania main eventers for their masks, but people will still show up to see their heroes get a big win. The bit AAA should be worried about people not believing is not believing Psycho Clown versus Dr. Wagner won’t happen at TripleMania. I suspect a lot of the advertised Wagner/Psycho main events are going to be changed by Vampiro, and I worry about that affecting people’s willingness to pay for that match at TripleMania if they don’t know if they’re getting it. That match is so important to AAA that I’d be scared of messing it up, but AAA does have a better idea of how it’s doing on ticket sales than we do.

Ticket sales for this show were strong. It did not go unnoticed that AAA drew well on a Wednesday, while The Crash was not a successful a week ago.

The upside is this random Poder del Norte/Wagner/Psycho feud is a lot more interesting than three to six months of Wagner & Psycho having trios matches and trading irrelevant wins. It would also be something if the Carta Brava name issue ended with AAA one losing his mask in a big match (though I think it’s more likely to be the end of Soul Rocker only.)

La Parka & Ricky Marvin being friends is odd since they’re scheduled for a singles match in Tijuana, but these cards change otherwise so it’ll be fine. Maybe they’ll change Psycho & Wagner and won’t have a new random title, I can only dream. Poder del Norte versus Faby/?/?? in the opener is also now kind of interesting. If the match happens, Poder del Norte should win, and maybe should go as far as getting the trios titles, but that may be politically tough.

In other AAA news:

The taping after Tijuana is in Tlaxcala, which had a 2×1 ticket deal going yesterday. It was a one day thing, so I’m not sure if it means anything for sales.

Cantu Promociones is listing the Nuevo Laredo taping as on June 19, a week later than originally planned. It doesn’t seem to affect the TV scheduled at all.

OGT were among the guests on this week’s Zona Ruda.

Next taping is a week from Friday, April 21st, in Tijuana.

04/29/2017 AAA TV Lineup (Tlaxcala)

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AAA TV (SAT) 04/29/2017 Paleqnue del Centro Expositor, Tlaxcala, Tlaxcala
1) Niño Hamburguesa vs Bengala, Australian Suicide, Joe Lider, Hijo de Pirata Morgan
2) Faby Apache vs Big Mami, La Hiedra, Goya Kong, Lady Shani
3) Máscara de Bronce & Venum vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria
4) Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba
5) Carta Brava & Soul Rocker vs Monsther Clown & Murder Clown
6) ?, ??, La Parka vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
7) Psycho Clown vs Hijo del Fantasma, Kevin Kross

Air Date: 05/20 and 05/27

I’m willing to give out advice and not as good at taking it, but I’m going at taking it. I’m going to try to be a bit better here: until AAA starts actually running shows that resemble the cards they announce, there’s no point in writing previews. It’s just a list of people announced, and those matches probably won’t happen as listed. I’d like to be interested in La Secta versus Bronce & Venum but there’s no telling if it’ll happen.

Here’s some solid things we can work with

  • AAA’s overloaded on TV content by this point. I had this penciled down as one show taping, but that looks like two weeks of TV. Every taping before looks like two shows too. I think the 05/26 Queretaro taping has been quietly canceled/rescheduled, which gives them a second week for this taping. They’d only have one week for Pachuca (05/16), but they’re also short a week before TripleMania so maybe it’ll work out.
  • Mamba attacked Pimpinela Escarlata at Rey de Reyes and I totally forgot because there was 500 things going on and it’s not like they haven’t been feuding for five years anyway, but this was a really convenient point to bring it up.
  • AAA needs to get some Kevin Kross photos to use for their posters
  • The mystery team must not be the Traidor Clowns and seem unlikely to be the Apaches working the semimain, even with the OGT on the other side. Maybe Ricky Marvin has a new partner? Maybe they’re trying to get people to come in as a team?

Or maybe they’ll just quietly disappear when the card changes. I should stop here.

Next taping is 05/16 in Pachuca. Dr. Wagner versus Psycho Clown has been announced locally as the main event.

03/31/2017 AAA TV Results (Neza) – new tag champs

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AAA TV (FRI) 03/31/2017 Arena Neza [AAA, Estrellas del Ring]
1) Neza Kid b Némesis
Unadvertised match. Neza Kid appears to be Freelance this time.
2) Mamba b Estrella Divina
Unadvertised match; both were an atomicos originally. These first two matches may not air.
3) Súper Fly b Niño Hamburguesa
Super Fly interrupted the official start of the show by complaining about Vampiro restarting his match at Rey de Reyes. Nino Hamburguesa interrupted him, and Tirantes announced they had now been scheduled for a match (by Vampiro?). Super Fly won anyway.
4) Bengala, Dinastía, Joe Lider, Lady Shani b Dalton Bragg, Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro
Shani, who’s now a tecnica without explanation, pinned Hiedra. Dalton Bragg, who advanced to the semifinals of Saturday’s La Llave de la Gloria, also simultaneously advanced to a TV debut. All but the women and the minis were replaced in this match.
5) Argenis & Hijo del Fantasma b Averno & Chessman
Earlier in the night, Texano (Fantamsa’s original partner) announced he had a grade two neck strain and would be out for some time, but vowed not to retire. Argenis was subbed in (his cruiserweight title match was removed), and Chessman & Averno replaced Mesias (in Orlando) and Pagano. Ricky Marvin seconded the OGT team, but accidentally cost them match. Chessman & Averno attacked Ricky after the match, kicking him out and replacing him with Super Fly.
6) Australian Suicide, Dr. Wagner Jr., Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Psycho Clown b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Soul Rocker
started out as Lanzeloth/Bronce/Suicide vs Soul/Mocha/Carta, then Wagner & Psycho ran in (to attack the rudos?), then Monster & Murder ran in, then Vampiro made it a 10 man tag. Wagner stole a pin from Psycho Clown to beat Cota.
7) Parka Negra b El Elegido
(inexplicable) added match. Elegido won, but Parka Negra had his foot on the ropes and the referee missed.
8) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria b Aerostar & Drago © [AAA TAG]
Originally a tag title match, then no longer a tag title match a few days later, then made for the title right before the match anyway. Drago & Aerostar fall on their 3rd defense. Cuervo & Scoria are 18th champions, Cuervo champion for the second time (first with Ozz.) Pagano showed up to congratulate the new champions, then attacked them.

Air Date: 04/08 & 04/15

Hold up a sec. Look at that card. Look at those results again. That is the story: not a single match advertised on this card happened as scheduled. Some of the changes were minor – anyone who had been following along could’ve guessed the tag titles would end up on the line  – but most of the card doesn’t resemble anything as advertised. The new creative team seemed to be in control when they announced the card, and it still didn’t resemble what they ended up doing. It’s good to know what the rules of the games are, and the rules here appear to be no matches on AAA TV lineups should be taken seriously at this time, just treat it as a list of names announced for the show.

This show was missing Mesias (which AAA should’ve known a month ago) and missing Texano (which may have been known in advance, and we’ll have a better idea if it’s an angle after today’s TV show.) Still, this is designed chaos, a choice to make changes without explaining them. AAA can’t exactly that Super Fly/Nino Hamburguesa is happening, since the story is it was a surprise match. AAA could’ve easily said Aerostar & Drago were now defending the tag team titles after the Rey de Reyes. They didn’t (and maybe didn’t need to, they sold out Neza anyway), but it shows they’re very much not concerned with explaining what’s going on publicly. It works if people leave happy and come back next time, but they’re taking some risks when Psycho & Wagner get shuffled into 10 man tags and they can’t find a match for Pagano while Elegido & Parka Negra are having a singles match (and program?)

A fan did tell AAA & Vampiro he didn’t like all the changes, and Vampiro explained that part of growing up is changing.

They do seem to explaining these changes behind the scenes. Dalton Bragg’s Facebook indicates he knew he was wrestling on this card a week ago, and was hinting about getting into AAA almost a month ago. Check that timeline; On Friday, Bragg was told he was getting an AAA match. On Saturday, he did the public tryout with AAA. Maybe he’s not actually a ringer in the competition, but I’d think that means the tryout didn’t really mean much for him. Maybe not others.

The ultimate problem with this strategy is the entire year is built around the idea that AAA is definitely going to do Dr. Wagner Jr. versus Psycho Clown, but they’re meanwhile not committing to do any other match. They may do any match, most of the matches announced at Rey de Reyes actually happened, but there always will be reason to be skeptical of Wagner/Psycho as happening as advertised until the moment one of them unmasks, and this gives pause to be a little more skeptical. At the same time, that’s the only feud that hasn’t been changed, continuing with them weirdly teaming up nowadays.

Super Fly added to OGT and Ricky Marvin out kind of explains why the trios titles changed hands. The Apaches may not get around to defending them, but OGT was just about out of changes to lose them. AAA not breaking up Pagano & Mesias might have been to set up them as new tag challengers based on the main event angle; they have to be setting up Pagano for something big for Juarez. The shifting matches obscures the fact that not a lot else seems to be happening. Maybe they’re actually doing a Elegido/Negra program, or maybe that’ll end as quick as it seems to for Cota’s group.

Next taping is scheduled to be on 04/12 in San Luis Potosi. Who knows what’ll happen there.

04/21 AAA TV Lineup (Tijuana)

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AAA TV (FRI) 04/21/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) ?, ??, Faby Apache vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
2) La Parka vs Ricky Marvin
3) Aerostar & Drago vs Killshot & Marty The Moth
Lucha Underground match
4) Australian Suicide & Bengala vs El Mesías & Pagano
5) Ayako Hamada © vs Taya [Reina De Reinas]
first defense
6) Hijo del Fantasma vs Kevin Kross [tables]
7) Psycho Clown  vs Dr. Wagner Jr. [EMW HEAVY]

Air Date: 05/06 & 05/13. Here’s the big list. AAA now has three tapings announced at once: Neza on Friday, SLP on the 12th and this one.

Just after AAA turns three belts into one, AAA might be adding another. The EMW championship, as best I can figure, is a new title. EMW is the local promoter of AAA shows (including this one), but hasn’t had their own title belts. It’s possible, even probable, this is a one off appearance for the belt (though it’d be better a Copa or a Trofeo in that case.) It’s also probable this is a title match just to give this matchup something different to do. They’re apparently going to be doing this match a lot in a short stretch:

03/31 Neza: Murder Clown & Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Monster Clown
04/12 SLP: Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. main event
04/21 Tijuana: Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. main event
04/29 Tlaxcala: card not announced, maybe not still happening (not listed on TV in upcoming events, with Puebla in it’s place.)
05/16 Pachuca: no card announced but saying they’ll have Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. main event

The same match on 3 out of 4 tapings, at least. These matches are not bad, no matter how much I’m going to complain about it, but they’re also not Dragon Lee versus Kamiatachi. You’ve seen one, you’re probably not getting a lot more out of the next two. An interesting midcard could help a lot.

This midcard is interesting! AAA TV is pushing this being the start of a new, Vampiro-rific, era of AAA. La Parka versus Ricky Marvin in a singles match that’s second on the card is definitely AAA being a new era. Four singles match on the show is definitely new, and much different than usual Mexican wrestling for a normal TV card. Fantasma & Kross is technically a Tijuana Table match, and I liked Tijuana too much to make a joke here. There are rarely gimmick. Taya gets a rematch for what used to be her title, a much quicker follow up on that sort of thing than normal. This is different.

The amount of matches and the stipulations involved overshadow how much less people are booked than their used to be. There are 22 people booked on this card. About one year ago, there was 36 luchadors on a similar show in Leon. There’s 22 here because AAA’s gotten Ayako and Kross and the LU guys to come in; they wouldn’t have much of a card without them.

Marty showing back up here is not a surprise, maybe only unexpected in that it took this long to happen after he impressed late last year. Killshot being on the show is a surprise. His Shane Strickland alter ego was just on The Crash show, and no one’s gone back and forth between the feuding promotions since this year. It’d probably be best for everyone if the promotions could get along and allow guys to work wherever but I don’t think that’s what’s going on here. It’s possible that a thing that is a big issue in Mexico is not something a wrestler who works on the US indies is paying much mind to, and Killshot doesn’t know/care what he’s stepped into. It does help AAA & EMW to have a few outside/different names when The Crash is focusing on doing the same.

It’s notable that Marty & Killshot are being allowed to use their LU personalities here; being the guy in charge of those decision and AAA probably helps. AAA’s ran a Lucha Underground on Netflix commercial on TV each week since it’s aired. It’d be an advantage if they could get more LU guys to work their shows.

The mystery spots in the opener seem set up to be the other Apaches, listed as surprises because AAA might not know if they’re going to be there (and Tijuana’s commission has historically come down harder on no-shows, so it might be wise to be careful.) I think they might end up being Monster & Murder as back up, since they had slight issues with that new unnamed rudo group on the other side.

Following taping is scheduled to be 04/29 in Tlxacala but, again, I suspect that’ll change.

04/12 AAA TV Lineup (San Luis Potosi)

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AAA TV (WED) 04/12/2017 Domo de San Luis, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí
1) Bronco González, Concord, Octagoncito vs Guerrero De Plata, Hijo Del Vikingo, Mini Abismo Negro
2) Big Mami, Lady Shani, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Goya Kong, La Hiedra, Mamba
3) Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
4) Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Bengala, Drago vs El Mesías, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pagano, Súper Fly
5) Argenis, Ayako Hamada, Hijo del Fantasma vs Johnny Mundo, Kevin Kross, Taya
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Psycho Clown

Air Date: 04/22 & 04/29

Wagner/Psycho as normal on top.  They had a singles match back in October that had no finish. I wouldn’t count on a result here either.

Everything underneath is the new abnormal. If I told you six months ago that there would be a trio of Argenis, Ayako Hamada and Hijo del Fantamsa, you wouldn’t believe me. You also wouldn’t believe me if I told you six days ago. Trust issues aside, they are following up on the big issues of Rey de Reyes here. You can see some of those reflected in the 03/31 Neza card too, so we’re definitely onto the new creative team by this point and we’ll soon have an idea if the card charges are going to be a regular thing or just part of a transition.

Taya loses her title but gets an actual feud, so it’s not a loss. Fantasma and Kross are doing promos back and forth on Twitter. Argenis would be the #1 contender to the cruiserweight title if he wins the four way in Neza, so that match may be building an Argenis/Mundo match. That is a real sentence.

If Argenis winning the Rey de Reyes sword means the trio that formed of Argenis, Drago, and Aerostar will never actually get around to teaming. That was an old creative thing, may be out the window already with the person who trapped Faby Apache in a room. Aerostar & Drago found good replacement partners in an atomicos that might actually be good. Aerostar/Super Fly feuding seems like the only reason for that match but it still seems like they’re telling a story with Pagano & Mesias. They’re teaming here and back in Neza.

OGT versus the kid also a plot line. The trios match here seems like it builds on Averno & Chessman vs Lanzeloth & Mascara de Bronce back in Neza. Averno was really good at working with young high flyers in CMLL and Chessman’s done that in the past in AAA, they just haven’t been used in those roles here of late. Ricky is back after not appearing at Rey de Reyes, which suggests the surprise trios title change wasn’t about any of the OGT members leaving. Maybe the reason was just the surprise, a shock title change to fit the feeling of a lot of shocking things going on and a way to blow off the Apaches/OGT feud which seems to be downplayed or going away. It still doesn’t make a lot of sense to make the Mary & Gran Apache champions if they’re not going to be around any time soon and those titles might have been useful with the OGT with wherever they’re going with the kids, but I can’t totally object to a lucha title being taken out of play.

Shani seems to be starting as a tecnica in Neza. Pimpinela and Mamba get grouped in with the women.

I think that opener’s airing, even though it’s mostly non-AAA people. They have to get two weeks of TV out of this taping. What’s notable is those are not San Luis Potosi locals either. Concord is from Pachuca, Bronco Gonzalez usually wrestles in Mexico State, Guerrero de Plata & Hijo del Vikingo mostly work Puebla. These aren’t people who advanced in La Llave de la Gloria; there’s some other scouting/recruitment going on.

The show after this is 04/21 in Tijuana

03/19/2017 AAA TV Results (Monterrey) – Argenis wins Rey de Reyes 2017

some of these matches happened as scheduled

AAA TV (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon [Lucha Libre AAA]
2) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria b El Mesías & Pagano [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
Moved to the TV opener. Cuervo escaped, then Mesias speared Scoria thru the cage. Fans were confused, thinking the luchadors had to go over the top to get out of that match, but referees ruled that was it and gave the match to La Secta. Mesias & Pagano did not have issues. Cuervo & Scoria are owed a tag title shot now (and face Aerostar & Drago in Neza already.)
3) Ayako Hamada b Faby Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Goya Kong, Big Mami [Reina De Reinas, #1 Contenders]
Ayako Hamada was the surprise luchador, in her first AAA TV match since 2008. Mary Apache missed the match due to skull fracture and will be out indefinitely. Eliminations: Faby, Goya, Hiedra, Big Mami, Lady Shani, leaving Ayako as the winner. Ayako was wearing her Perros del Mal gear in this match.
4) Johnny Mundo b Hijo del Fantasma, Texano Jr. [AAA HEAVY, AAA CRUISER, AAA LA]
Prior to the match, Dorian Roldan and officials from Impact Wrestling (including Jeff Jarrett) came to the ring to announce a deal between AAA & Impact. They were booed. Before this match started, Vampiro put all three men’s titles on the line. Fantasma got a visual pin with a Thrill of the Hunt on a chair on Texano, but the referee was done. Texano was stretchered away. Mundo beat Fantasma after a run-in by a mystery man (Kevin Kross, but specifically given no name in the recap.0 3rd defense of the Latin American title. Fantasma loses in his eight defense of the cruiserweight title. Mundo is the 9th champion. Texano loses in his heavyweight fourth defense. Mundo is 14th champion.
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown b Monsther Clown & Murder Clown
Wagner & Psycho Clown got along enough to win. All four men were attacked and left laying by Soul Rocker, Carta Brava Jr., and Mocho Cota Jr.
6) Ayako Hamada b Taya © [Reina De Reinas]
Ayako becomes the 20th champion. Taya’s title reign ends after 2.5 years, and on her fourth defense.
7) Argenis b Averno, Chessman, Bengala, El Elegido, Pimpinela Escarlata, Niño Hamburguesa, Joe Lider, La Parka [Rey de Reyes]
Unannounced match, apparently added as the real Rey de Reyes match with the announced one becoming a title match instead. Royal rumble rules, though the last two might have gone to a pinfall (and like most AAA rumbles, no one eliminated until everyone gets in.) Eliminations: Pimpinela, Nino Hamburguesa, Elegido, Lider, La Parka, Chessman (by Averno by mistake), Bengala and Argenis defeated Averno to win.
8) Aerostar b Súper Fly [hair]
Super Fly earlier appeared on the show saying he’d hurt his arm wasn’t cleared to wrestle but he was going to do it anyway. Bloody match, with Aerostar doing a big dive off the upper level. Super Fly used knuckles to KO Aerostar for the win. Vampiro restarted the match and Aerostar came back to win.

(AAA & Impact/Anthem also announced an alliance. The recap has no more details on it.)

Air Date: 03/25 & 04/01.

The building looked full. It might have not been capacity – AAA always cuts off some of the seats to fit in the entrance – but they probably sold as many tickets as they could. Arena Coliseo Monterrey with CMLL luchadors did not do nearly as well. (Calling this show Rey de Reyes helped. If there’ anything to take from this weekend, it’s that branding events will help over the course of a few years.)

Like we saw in Apizaco, the card announced and the matches which took place changed. It was a lot more in order than content tonight, though changing how they were doing the Rey de Reyes tournament was pretty noticeable. It’s still going to take time to figure out how much of this is a purposeful attempt to make the shows feel more unpredictable and how much of this is AAA announcing lineups and then changing the creative process behind them. Neza might have been done before the change, but nothing past that has been announced (so there shouldn’t need to be more reshuffling after that, unless reshuffling is just supposed to be part of the feel of the show.)

My first impression was that it’s good to be known to the LU crew. Mundo won, Aerostar won, Argenis won (?!?!), Kevin Kross debuted. Kross is working LU dark matches and is signed so may show up in vignettes, but AAA hasn’t been bringing in many foreigners so someone had go to the back to him, probably off that Lucha Underground experience. (Kross might be getting a new name. I wonder if Vibora is next?) On the other hand, Mundo beat two other people on LU, Aerostar wasn’t losing his mask and Argenis – well, I can’t explain Argenis. And there’s other non-LU people who had a good day: Ayako Hamada isn’t on LU, and I can reveal that Carta Brava, Soul Rocker and Mocho Cota Jr. do not show up in the Temple in Season 3 to cause havoc.

Maybe the LU idea is that everyone gets something to do, and everyone gets a chance to be stars. AAA’s biggest hole is in upper level guys, and they gave big moments to a lot of people. I don’t know if the fans are going to accept Carta Brava, Soul Rocker and Mocho Cota as a faction taking on Dr. Wagner’s mask, but AAA is more interesting with them trying to do instead of just wrestling 40 straight weeks of openers in slightly different combinations. Argenis as Rey de Reyes winner is going to look so strange in the list of winners for quite a while, but there might be a bigger plan here – he’s in that Cruiserweight title match in Neza, assuming that it doesn’t change.

Mundo being both heavyweight and cruiserweight champion at the same time is sorta goofy but, as person who hates pretty much every single title belt in Mexico, I don’t have a problem with having less champions. None of the belts have been treated in a meaningful way, reducing the number of champions might help, Mundo’s the most close to being a big deal of the three right now, and it’d be a big moment if they spent five months building to Fatansma or Texano winning the titles back at TripleMania. They could do Texano/Fantasma vs Kross/Mundo in between as build up. Long term, I’d like to see the Latin American title dumped because there’s not enough TV to make three different singles titles useful, and something changed with the cruiserweight title if there’s not going to be any meaningful difference between it and heavyweight. It’s Mexico so I’m sure we’ll see those belts split apart at some point.

Mary talked about the skull fracture this week on TV. She was out for years before with a head injury, and the recap makes it sound like she might not be back any time soon from this one. The injury appears to have happened before Faby won the trios belts – maybe tehy didn’t realize how bad it was? Maybe something else is going on? Ricky Marvin took the loss to Faby and hasn’t been in AAA since, including not being on this show when AAA was getting everyone on the show. I dunno. Faby was the surprise first person out of the Reina de Reinas match, but Ayako Hamada being champion opens the door for Faby to go back to challenging to that title, which helps if she doesn’t have a healthy family member to team with.

These tapings are now a lot harder to judge just based on results and photos since things are actually happening. It’s going to take actually seeing it to have an idea about how all these things are working.

EDIT: things I thought about too late

  1. all the AAA photos show Super Fly with a short hair cut, not bald. Hmmm.
  2. main event seemed set up to give Vampiro a hero moment, which is not so great. But he appears to no longer a mysterious person off stage and an actual person who is seen.

Next taping is 03/31 in Neza.

03/05 AAA TV Results (Apizaco)

AAA

AAA TV (SUN) 03/05/2017 Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala [AAA]
1) Argenis, Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido b Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra
Argenis beat Parka Negra
2) Súper Fly b Bengala [no dq]
Moved down to the second match. Aerostar appeared, but he was still in a sling and not medically cleared. Vampiro appeared to put Bengala in the match instead.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker b Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum
Moved up to the third match. Carta beat Mascara de Bronce
4) Angélico & Australian Suicide b Dark Cuervo & Joe Lider, Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
The announced Cuervo & Zorro and Bengala & Lider teams were merged into one (and Escoria was there to interfere), but Angelico still pinned Lider for the win.
5) Faby Apache b Ricky Marvin © [AAA TRIOS]
This was originally a lumberjack match with all three Apaches versus all three OGT. Instead, it was announced Mary Apache (car accident?) and El Apache (personal issues) were out of action. Averno offered Faby a singles match with Ricky Marvin, where Faby would win the trios titles if she won but would have to retire if she lost. (It’s listed as championships vs careerS, so Faby may have put the entire families’ career on the line.) Faby accepted and defeated Marvin to win the trios titles. The Apaches are eight champions, Faby & Mary the first women to win the titles. OGT lose the titles on their second defense (first on TV).
6) Texano Jr. © b Dr. Wagner Jr. [AAA HEAVY]
Scheduled as a three way with Psycho Clown, but Psycho didn’t appear. Vampiro instead made a singles match, with Texano’s title on the line. Late in the match, Psycho Clown appeared in the crowd bloodied, and that distracted Wagner to give Texano the win.

Air Date: 03/11 & 03/18 – this starts airing this upcoming. weekend

AAA is a promotion that seems to pride itself on taking things slowly, and saving’s it peak moments for a few shows a year. Until this show, where the seven months build to Faby & Mary finally getting the best of OGT happens in a spur of the moment match. I guess it possible that AAA was changing so many matches that they felt they had to do something big to make up for it, but some of those changes (like Psycho not being in the main event) seem to be AAA choices. It’ This is just random, and make all the slow story telling frustrating when the payoff is something given a segment of set up.

Speaking of long storytelling going no where, The photo of Hijo del Tirantes raising Faby Apache’s arm to signify victory is amazing. Though not for the “women wins men’s title!” bit AAA is going with. Hijo del Tirantes has been making Faby Apache’s life for years, and has been directly been heavily feuding with her for the last few months, as one of the focal points of the TV show. Suddenly, in Cuautitlan, on the TV airing this week, Hijo del Tirantes is a neutral referee with no explanation. Faby’s greatest enemy could’ve cost her career (and maybe her families careers too), but we’re supposed to not think about that because – uh, AAA’s decided to go in a direction? AAA just couldn’t be bothered to have another referee to do the match? I dunno.

Look, I don’t want to see Hijo del Tirantes as a heel referee. The end result here is good. Just, don’t expect people to take your storylines seriously when you can’t be bothered to tell endings to them. To be fair, it’s probably not an ending, and Hijo del Tirantes will be back being a heel referee sooner or later, and none of this will ever make sense. It is so dumb that I’m spending so many words on something not making sense in AAA because that’s the default position and expecting things to change is not smart. I can’t help myself.

(Theory: Did Vampiro come in with a booking change? Because this seems like a booking change. There’s noticeably nothing on this show that built up Rey de Reyes in anyway; the only thing they accomplished was to make you think Super Fly vs Aerostar wouldn’t be happening. Vampiro’s noticeably all over this show, when authority figures haven’t been a big presence on AAA TV of late. AAA switching from going out of their way to remove Pentagon, Daga and Garza off their lineups to changing half their TV lineup and not telling anyone is also suspicious.)

AAA’s sparse on Mary & Gran Apache’s status. Presumably they’re coming back soon if they’re being included in the trios title team, but this was so spur of the moment that I wouldn’t be sure they’ll ever defend the belts until they actually do. Again, Gran Apache hasn’t been seen in a match on December 3, is a guy in his 50s who’s spent his life doing professional wrestling, and I hope he’s OK.

Angelico seems like he’s out of country starting in April, so I suspect he and Suicide’s title shot will be the new long running plot line that AAA’s forgotten. Maybe they can actually just add them to the tag title match in Neza.

Joe Lider is 2 for 2 on taking the pins since the Rebelion left, and they didn’t even need to have him in the match this time. Texano/Wagner sounds interesting until the finish. Let’s all assume Wagner beat up Psycho and never think about it again.

On the Ciudad Juarez show last night, it was announced Verano de Escandalo would take place on June 4th. That’s about halfway between Rey de Reyes and TripleMania. Who knows what’ll happen then.

Next show is Rey de Reyes on 03/19.