AAA TV (SUN) 09/20/2015Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon
1) Dinastía, Goya Kong, Pimpinela Escarlata vs ?, Mamba, Mini Charly Manson
2) Aerostar, Argenis, Drago vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Machine Rocker
3) Angélico & Jack Evans vs Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr. and Daga & Steve Pain
4) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Cibernético, Hijo del Fantasma, Texano Jr.
5) La Parka & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Brian Cage & Myzteziz
Air Date: 09/26. Surprising this is a one week taping. If the Hard Rock show is as well (it should be, it might not be), that means they’ve got to squeeze in one more taping to cover the week before Heroes Inmortales and probably the weekend after as well.
KDNA did say they were posting this lineup on Monday; KrisZ remembered.
At any rate, this is pretty close to the go home show for Heroes Inmortales – we should know the card by the time this airs, if not soon after – and it doesn’t seem like the set up to any big matches. Myzteziz/Myzterio are in a tag match here, figure to be in a main event team match on that show as well keep them against each other without doing the rematch. Brian Cage or Myzteziz working comedy spots with La Parka seems like a hilarious waste of paying them for the night. Not to mention your killer anti-Mexican rudo and your edgy new rudo standing around while Parka merrily skips back and forth on the ropes doesn’t seem to help them too much. (I guess it works if they straight up destroy Parka, but I don’t know that’s the idea.)
Semimain might be setting up a Hell Brothers/Psycho Circus trios title match – they haven’t had one yet without a third team being involved or a case of missing Cibernetico – but it also just might be getting people on the card. Tercera is a replay from Puebla (a week from tonight), with the maybe Anarkia team replacing La Secta. Joe Lider & Pentagon and Angelico & Jack are constants and would make sense for an AAA tag title match at Heroes Inmortales, with other teams thrown in as well.
Second match has no storyline but could steal the show, which is saying something given how good the tercera could be. It’s a really good tecnico team, a motivated Cuervo & Scoria, and the resurgent Machine Rocker. Aerostar is going to do something crazy and Machine Rocker is going to save him from dying, probably. Opener may or may not make TV – the opener on a five match show usually doesn’t – and there’s no telling if they’ll be back to putting matches on the internet a month from now. Best not to think about it too much, though it’s notable for being a mystery ruda luchadora spot instead of just Taya or even La Hiedra. I guess it could’ve been Sexy and they removed her after he injury, but that would be much faster work than usual.
We’re still missing the Hard Rock lineup in between Puebla and this show, but it’s notable Alberto el Patron isn’t on either show. He’s surely on Heroes Inmortales since it’s in San Luis Potosi. This cycle of shows are all Rey Mysterio & [X] against Myzteziz & [Y], and maybe Alberto just fits in as X on that show (and gets the pin on Cage or whomever to finally get the SLP win while leaving Rey & Myzteziz untouched.)
I don’t suspect we’ll be getting that Hard Rock lineup until AAA releases it – the hotel doesn’t need to advertise matches to get people to stay – but at least next Monday’s show will get some AAA news going again.
Poster pulled from KronoSport, but I suspect it’ll be everywhere by the end of the day. FWIW, Tehuacan is about a 100 minutes away from Puebla, so this show isn’t going to affect Arena Puebla (and vice versa) except for the hardcores.
Air Date: 09/05 (the Saturday following) and 09/12.
This card is going to be better than TripleMania, but that’s an incredibly low bar. This lineup has the bonus of looking pretty good on it’s own. Matches two and three in particular have no apparent purpose except for being really good matches, which is something that other show could’ve used.
I’m not really possessed to do the math, but this seems like a much younger card than TripleMania. It’s not just the one time and special event acts like Villanos and Blue Demon; the guys who appeared to be on TripleMania only to keep them happy (everyone in the Demon match, no Cibernetico.) Some guys who are good but aren’t on TV much get a shot.
Myzteziz starts right away on the rudo side, and opposite of Rey Mysterio Jr. Mesias has been best against Fenix (in both countries) and best against smaller luchadors – if he doesn’t have a good match here, he’s never going to have one. I guess the Fenix/Myzteziz Reyes del Aire tag team is dead.
Chessman, last seen participating in his annual dumb fall off a high place in a bad way, gets reassembled to face Psycho Clown. Either Psycho wins the title (which would be great! and maybe the first time this title got to someone where it might get over) or Villano IV costs him the match. I would like to see Jack Evans and Psycho Clown have a prematch strategy session.
It looks like Joe Lider & Pentagon, the actual tag team champions, are back to being a tag team after their misadventures at the end of TripleMania. They’re reintroduced to the tag teams who are actually participating in tag team matches, so those titles should be defended sometime soon. (That seems like the easiest match to figure for Heroes Inmortales, there’s not a lot obviously hinted here.)
Hijo del Pirata hanging out with Daga & Steve Pain (Anarkia lives!) sounds much more fun than Hijo del Pirata hanging out with Electroshock and Parka Negra.
I was a little concerned Venum had vanished when he wasn’t at the AAA march and Ludxor went to Colombia without his tag team partner, but he returns. La Hiedra did well on AAA’s swing thru Nuevo Laredo and gets brought in.
This show continues the pattern of AAA TV mostly being two week shows, so probably not another taping until the second week of September.
I can’t speak to the US and iPPV issues. I’ve see Twitter, so I know it was nothing but issues. From a live perspective, every match underdelivered. We were having “we’ve definitely seen worst shows than this, right?” discussions on the way back to the hotel. This was a terrible show for new viewers, with stuff not making sense or done in a way that would drive new fans away from the product. You can at least argue the semimain shenanigans ended with a huge pop for Alberto. The mess that was the post main event finish didn’t work for anyone. Alberto & Cage and Rey & Myzteziz were Good, but they needed Great or Excellent to save the show and didn’t get it. The stuff that looked bad was really bad. The stuff that looked like a waste of guys was a waste of guys. It may not mean a lot because the show was a production disaster, but they weren’t messing up a good show by any means.
AAA made a lot of money tonight, filled a big building with a lot of expensive tickets. Maybe that’s enough to consider it a good night. It felt like anything but. I really want AAA to make it, in Mexico and everywhere else, but tonight felt like a failure that’ll haunt them for some time. This was a dispiriting night for lucha libre.
Air Date: live, on PPV in Mexico, United States and Canada and on iPPV at http://internetvluchalibreaaa.com/. It should make up the 08/22 and 08/29 TV shows, though that seems a little fast. It wouldn’t be a big surprise if they were bumped back a week.
The lineup was officially announced at a press conference today, though the English site had posted the full card before they got started. They started the press conference by announcing one match would be a cage match, but then never announced which one. Alberto & Cage weren’t at the press conference, but it seems like that would be the match to have a cage. It’d play off the roughly five billion different interference and referee spots in their last match, not that people don’t get involve in cage matches all the time in AAA. The press conference also announced Hijo del Perro Aguayo would be inducted into the Hall of Fame, with his family there to honor him.
The noteworthy moment of the press conference was a Rey & Myzteziz back and forth, with both guys getting testy as their match draws nears. Myzteziz said he would have no problem drawing from his ‘dark side’ to beat Rey, while Rey said he’d show who was the original and who was the copy. AAA has an imbalance of tecnicos and rudos on top. They need to elevate someone or turn someone, and it doesn’t look like they’re elevating all those guys in the segunda. The next ten days are going to include a fair bit of speculation of a Myzteziz rudo turn.
As it turns out, the Alberto/Cage match is the only matches built off TV matches. Rey/Myzteziz have the face to face interviews. Villanos and Clowns have those just for the internet. Everything else is just made up on the spot. It feels like there were multiple, sometimes very different TripleMania cards and they didn’t decide which one would be used until late. Something with Jarrett seemed to have been planned, then unplanned. Just as recently as last week, Dr. Wagner Jr. versus Blue Demon Jr. was thought to be happening on this card. (The Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentions this match too.) It’s a show that should do well if they do a lot of press for the main event. The World Cup was similarly disconnected from everything else going on and it did well because they got people to buy in to the concept too, and this is an easier concept.
As a fan, I wish the third and fourth matches weren’t happening. The Parka/Demon/Mesias/Electro crew will work hard because of the show, but everyone’s going to work hard for this show and there’s better matches which could’ve been made. I’d be happy if the Villanos/Psycho Circus match is only bad, I’m more concerned it’ll be sad. They’ll be allowed to wear their masks, so that’ll help. The WON revealed Villano III’s recent health problem was a stroke and he’s not expected to be able to do much in this match. Hopefully they go short enough that no one notices, but it’s also a situation where the Psycho Circus should win and no one is going to want to see the Villanos lose. (Maybe Villano V defeats Psycho Clown to continue that issue.) Both of these matches are also really going to be tough for casual people checking on the show on PPV.
I like the other matches on this show. Rey Mysterio Jr. versus Myzteziz is going to be an incredible moment that’ll transcend the match itself, and the match itself could be pretty good. Cage versus Alberto should get the crowd and have some good moments, and maybe they’ll learn from what didn’t work in their last match. It’d be cool if the midcard guys got actual storyline at TripleMania, and if Cibernetico got trapped in the a closet, but the guys in the trios match will not let it be anything less than great. And the opener has a pretty good lineup for that sort of thing; it’s great to see Daga instead of other people who could’ve gotten that spot, Sexy Star will play off Goya well, and Dinastia and Mamba will both do crazy things on an opener.
I totally forgot about Sexy Star possibly being the woman to face Goya Kong in the opener. Mostly it’s because she hasn’t been around – this is her first AAA TV match since Verano de Escandalo. She’s hasn’t been working house shows much either; the London show was her first known match in two months. The WON mentions she’s not going to be working with AAA as much going forward and AAA will be trying out more women because they feel they need new faces. (That doesn’t sound particularly promising for Sexy Lady and La Jarochita, who work many house shows but are never used on TV.)
The WON also mentions Dave Meltzer himself was asked to do the English language PPV but turned it down. He thinks Striker or Mike Tenay would’ve done a better job, but isn’t sure if Tenay was asked (might have not bothered since his TNA deal would’ve made it impossible.)
I’ll be at this show and will have more on it before and after it takes place.
AAA TV (FRI) 07/10/2015Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla [@FlyDeportes , AAA, Cinco Radio]
1) Dinastía, Mini Drago, Pimpinela Escarlata b Mamba, Mini Charly Manson, Mini Psycho Clown Pimpi beat Charly.
2) Goya Kong & Niño Hamburguesa b Carta Brava & Taya Valkyrie Goya Kong was the mystery luchadora, is now 2-0 in AAA. Hamburugesa splash on Carta Brava.
3) Fireball & Ludxor b Daga & Steve Pain Ludxor replaced Argenis. Fireball (Flamita) was the surprise luchador. Fireball beat Steve Pain with a Spanish Fly, and Pain was stretched out.
4) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria b Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Electroshock & Hijo de Pirata Morgan and Australian Suicide & Jack Evans Cuervo beat Jack.
5) Aerostar, Drago Argenis, Myzteziz DQ Averno, Chessman, Cibernético Argenis replaced Drago. Myzteziz had La Mistica on Chessman, but Avenro pulled off his mask.
6) Brian Cage b El Patrón Alberto, El Mesías [bull terrier] Cage powerbombed Alberto thru dry wall, then touched four corners to win. Cage covered Alberto up with the American flag, and Cage challenged Alberto to hair versus hair. Alberto later accepted.
Even with that match set, Averno is still hassling Myzteziz. Secta versus Jack & Angelico is still going, and that one could actually be another TripleMania match. (They did a cage match, maybe they do a ladder match? If only they had something to hang up there.)
The Fireball thing is weird. It suggests AAA has larger plans for him than the Belial/Arez level guys who turned up earlier this year, because they’ve gone thru the effort of introducing him with a name AAA will own. (He was still wearing his Flamita gear, so the naming wasn’t any more than that.) I’m sure what it means long term. AAA wanted to bring back Flamita for at least a year, Flamita’s was still said to be going back to Dragon Gate in September at last report, so this might just be a couple shows. CMLL has appeared not to object to their luchadors wrestling those who’ve appeared just once or a few times on AAA TV tapings this year, but they’re also completely inconsistent about those things. Maybe the Flamita/Dragon Lee match in Veracruz happens (help by being a small enough town that no one will know if it does happen), but it’s probably a good thing for CaraLucha that they went to Volador/Flamita right away.
There is no next announced taping until TripleMania. It’d be a four week break as currently scheduled, so the guess is something gets announced today on TV to take place in a couple weeks.
AAA TV (FRI) 07/03/2015 Expotampico, Tampico, Tamaulipas [AAA]
2) Goya Kong, Niño Hamburguesa, Octagoncito b Carta Brava Jr., Mini Abismo Negro, Taya Valkyrie Goya Kong was the surprise luchadora. Hamburugesa Splash on Carta & Abismo
3) Dark Scoria, Dark Cuervo, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Bengala, Drago, El Elegido Scoria beat Elegido.
4) Hijo del Fantasma & Joe Lider b Angélico & Jack Evans Cuervno & Escoria cost Angelico & Jack the mach.
5) Cibernético & El Mesías b Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Electroshock & Hijo de Pirata Morgan Cibernetico replaced Texano Jr., and his team got the win when Mesias beat Pirata with a top rope splash.
6) Averno b Myzteziz seconds were Argenis & Cibernetico. Mytzeziz told Averno prior to the match he’d have his respect if he could beat him cleanly. Averno told Myztzeziz and could unmake him. Averno did win and did break free of La Mistica, but won with a foul (and not cleanly.)
7) Blue Demon Jr. & Villano IV b Brian Cage & El Patrón Alberto Villano IV & Blue Demon won when Cage turned on Alberto and put him thru a table.
Air Date: 07/25 and 08/01 – so, just to be clear, this includes the show airing 8 days before TripleMania.
There are no matches announced for TripleMania, but we can make the same educated guesses on those matches as we could back when this card was announced. Something is happening with Cage & Alberto, something is happening with Avenro/Myzteziz and something is still happening with Angelico/Jack Evans and Scoria/Cuervo – we just don’t know what’s exactly happening with any of it, still.
Money was thrown in for Averno/Myzteziz.
I thought Steve Pain was at this taping, but it turns out Cuervo & Scoria with short hair are kind of tough to recognize.
Next taping is next Friday in Puebla. It could be the last taping until TripleMania, though I suspect we’ll know more after this week’s TV show.
Outside of Goya jumping, this was a pretty quiet taping. No TripleMania announcement, no real hint at any new Triplemania matches. A lot of existing feuds are brought up, but this seems more like a placekeeping show than one of the last few before the biggest show of the year. (Maybe it’s not.)
Texano’s injury was left pretty vague. It would seem like it had to occur in the last couple weeks, since they wouldn’t have moved him into the main event during the shuffle if they knew he was hurt, but it’s not clear when. Texano hasn’t been recorded as wrestling since June 1st and was strangely left off the Verano de Escandalo card (though he did do a run-in), so it could also be something he’s been working thru for a while. Not sure when he’ll be back, though it seems doubtful he’ll have any big role on TripleMania. The rudo side is really weak.
I wonder if Goya is Mascara 2000 Jr.’s mystery admirer?
This was the first of three straight weekends of taping. They’re taping again on Friday in Tampico.
AAA posted a new lineup for this show today, which probably means they’ll be hyping Mysterio’s appearance on this week’s TV. AAA usually doesn’t announce card changes – with Verano de Escandalo, they surely knew Kronos was out in advance but didn’t update – but adding Rey Mysterio is a supposed to sell some tickets and all the other changes just showed up with him.
Mysterio becoming the mystery guy in the main event is the biggest news, but lots of other shuffling going on. Fenix and Myzteziz ended Verano de Escandalo hurt and are both off the show now. Not sure if that’s the same issue with Pentagon and Argenis. The latter could just be adding Aerostar to face Super Fly again.
Chessman essentially gets added to the card to replace Kronos, with the semifinal trios match turned into a trios tag match. Electro & Pirata were already booked as only a tag team on the next two shows (which also have multiteam tag matches.)
Fenix and Pentagon are now not booked on any AAA TV announced taping, and that covers the next six weeks of shows. That might not all be injury, they may be missing the 07/10 show because they’re going on the trip to London, but it suggets there won’t be big plans for them going into TripleMania. (Whenever that is.)
AAA also reposted the 07/10 lineup, but there’s no changes to that lineup. The mystery person on 07/10 show is still listed as a mystery person, but likely is Laredo Kid.
Alas de Oro is worth the price of the show alone, unless you’re completely uninterested in the style. It’s better than last year’s TripleMania 10 way and the 10 way on Lucha Underground, even with Fenix’s injury (and he wasn’t the only one who was probably hurt.) There were so many things going on that it was hard to keep track of them, but it was about as good as you’re going to get with that style. Both Steve Pain and Laredo Kid shined in their debut. (Laredo’s name was actually listed on the prematch graphic, but it was up and down too quick to notice.) If anything, there was so much going on that it’s hard to remember few individual spots, just the overall feeling of amazement.
The cage match is also worth going out of your way to see. Like their TV match this week, it’s a brawl where Angelico & Jack work in a bit of their normal moves. They built in good drama even though it never quite seemed like La Secta were going to win.
The opener and the trios title match were about what they expected. Machine Rocker took a spectacular bump in the opener and it was surprising to see him to beat Elegido (especially in Monterrey.) They did a lot of stuff in the trios title match, some of which went well. It definitely would’ve been more coherent as a 3v3 match, but the crowd seemed to enjoy it. Parka Negra as a Holocausto member seemed to work well enough for them to keep doing it, but it wasn’t sure if that was the plan.
This could be a pivotal moment for the Psycho Circus. Psycho Clown challenging Chessman for the Latin American championship, if it actually happens, makes a lot of sense: it explains why it was important not to have Demon just win the title back, and it gives the title a chance to be the secondary title for the guys who aren’t in the world title picture but need wins to be ready to be part of it later on. (If Alberto is just going to be defending the heavyweight title about 3 times a year against a foreign menace, there’s a big gap to be filled.) Psycho Clown’s plateaued and even dropped down a little bit after TripleMania because of the influx of new names and being relegated back into the trios title picture, but a feud with Chessman might give him a spotlight again.
The title match was aggravating, but I think AAA would say it was intended to be aggravating. Alberto did a post show interview where Alberto declared he’ll leave AAA unless they give him Cage in a cage with hair (and maybe the title) on the line. That was their big angle for TripleMania. It just felt like the usual AAA Tiranates overbooking during the show. It left me not wanting not to see the match again, and just generally disappointing. There’s definitely reason to something to build a rematch, but they did so many different interference/Tirantes spots and it was just kind of absurd. Alberto was a superman who should’ve won nine times over, Tirantes was the guy getting all the heat, and Cage could’ve been Parka Negra or Machine Rocker for all he meant to the match – only he’s the guy they’re expecting the fans pay to see beat. There’s no real reason for Alberto to want a rematch, he won the match and nearly won it cleanly despite tremendous handicaps, but it’s happening because it’s happening.
Alberto also really needed to do that rematch promo during the show, so the whole thing wouldn’t have ended as flat. This was a quick moving AAA show, finishing under three hours, but the crowd seemed to lose energy after the title match and maybe that could’ve brought them back.
(The Tirantes heel ref stuff needs to go away, but it’s needed to go away for years and AAA’s just stubborn on that point. Can they at least change how they do it? Match would’ve been drastically improved by just having Piero start the match to start, and then Tirantes taking his place as the replacement referee when Piero gets taken out. AAA always does it where Tirantes cheats for the rudo, gets taken out and Piero is the second ref coming in. Just like how AAA always has the rudos do a billion cheap shots, none actually work, and then the finish is 10 seconds after someone’s finally thought to do a foul. Maybe try mixing it up a bit.)
The main event didn’t help. Rey’s entrance and gear was great, but the match itself felt like it had the intensity of a house show main event. It was going to have a hard time following the previous matches even if it was good, and it was a match with a lot of La Parka comedy instead. They did the briefest of teases of Mundo versus Rey after the match, but the Lucha World Cup also accomplished that. The idea probably was to get fans used to seeing Mundo by having him here, but he was so inconsequential to the match that it diminished the specialness of seeing him if you already knew who he was.
There was no mention of TripleMania in front of the crowd. No date, no location, no video just teasing the concept. It’s possible the show may have been meant to end with something like that (and it does read as if they expect to announce it this week.) It ended with a “poor signal” message instead. The feed itself declined in quality during the last hour of the show and the main event was bordering on unwatchable at times. The VOD for these shows has been simply a recording of the live broadcast on previous iPPV; hopefully they put up a cleaner version this time.
The recently elected governor of Nuevo Leon was at the show. They announced his presence while setting up the cage.
Next taping is 06/27 in Orizaba, with the Mini Psycho Clown/Dinastia title match. If it’s like their match here, it’ll be great. If it’s like the Heavyweight title match (and the last Dinastia title match was similarly filled with interference), then it’ll be a little disappointing.