AAA on Televisa: 2018-01-27 

Bengala & Drago tope

Recapped: 02/12/2017

All matches were taped on Plaza de Toros Monumental, Apizaco, Tlaxcala on 12/16/2017. This is the final episode regaular episode taped in 2017.

The January 24th episode (finally) airs an abbreviated version of the 2017 Lucha World Cup, taped back in October. From January 31st on, this Televisa show becomes the third run version of AAA. The matches now air live on Twitch first, then air on Space channel one week prior to when they air on Televisa.

At this point, the Televisa version continues to be the one posted on AAA’s YouTube channel and so those episodes remain important to see any developments in the Noti AAA segment or any backstage vignettes not shown during the live broadcast. The matches themselves are not important (except if you want to go deep and figure out what’s been edited out.) If you’re trying to read these in order, you’ll want to jump from this to the 2018-01-26 AAA Twitch one, and follow along the Twitch recaps from here until all of this changes again.


Aerostar, Drago, Raptor beat Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly and Argenis, Bengala and Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana
(13:16, good, via Lucha Libre AAA)

05:55 Argenis frontcracker Raptor
07:14 Argenis Spanish Fly Averno
07:21 DQ Super Fly foul on Argenis
07:31 Tito Santana pin Argenis
08:34 Aerostar springboard frontcracker Tito Santana
09:05 Chessman pin Aerostar
09:38 Carta Brava frogsplash Chessman
10:46 Carta Brava powerbomb Bengala
Mocho Cota huracanrana Drago
13:16 Drago Dragon Tail Mocho Cota

Rey Escorpión & Texano Jr. beat Hijo del Fantasma & Psycho Clown  
(10:45, Texano pin Fantasma, ok, Lucha Libre AAA)

Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. beat Hernandez
(10:39, Wagner moonsault Hernandez, ok, Lucha Libre AAA )

What happened:

this didn’t look fun

The show begins with Hernandez walking up to Poder del Norte, and telling them they just looked bad out there. I have no idea what he’s talking about. Because I’m watching this wildly out of order and very late, it’s possible I’m missing something. More likely, this was intended to air after the four way trios match. Anyway, Hernandez recruits them to unite with him and Johnny Mundo, specifically to help him beat Hijo del Dr. Wagner tonight. Mocha Cota wants help with the trios title match at Guerra de Titanes, and some money. Hernandez quickly agrees to the first. He doesn’t have money in his pocket for the second part, and assures he’ll get it to Poder del Norte soon. Poder del Norte seem skeptical but do end up interfering.

Later, Hernandez is in the bathroom, seemingly on a phone call with Johnny Mundo. Hernandez is sure he’s going to beat Hijo del Wagner and is not scared of Vampiro. Vampiro comes in the bathroom and Hernandez is scared of him. Vamprio tells him Hernandez can pick the Guerra de Titanes match stip if he wins, but he’s making tonight’s match no disqualification. Hernandez is also scared of this.

Tirantes breaks up Fantasma’s attempts at doing the Thril of the Hunt, ignores Texano fouling Fantasma from behind, and quick counts him for three. Texano and Tirantes shake hands after the match.

Argenis & Bengala should have Mascara de Bronce as a third man for the opener based on where they’re going. He’s not there. No one attempts to explain that or why they’re a two man team. That match is a single fall, and the last minute surprise stipulation is the winning team gets to use a weapon for their Guerra de Titanes match. That stipulation never comes up during the match.

Noti AAA sort of mentions Guerra de Titanes, less a preview and more as something airing in the future since it’s already happened now. The Aguascalientes & Tlaxcala cards (with Johnny Mundo) are previewed. They even hype an AAA house show lineup on 02/04, which doesn’t normally happen.

Poder del Norte do run in and attack Hijo del Wagner, so I guess Hernandez eventually paid them. Hernandez tries to distract Piero, even though he should know it’s a no DQ match since Vampiro just told him. Aerostar, Drago and Raptor slowly walk to the ring, and kind of sort of pull Piero before he can count three. The six other people all fight in front to Piero, who knows he doesnt need to be distracted. The técnicos do dives and everyone walks to the back, and then match goes on for a couple more minutes.

The doctor watches the entire match from the entrance area, which is dead center of the hard camera and more than a little distracting.

Hijo del Wagner is about to announce the stipulation for his match, when he’s interrupted by his father’s music. The younger Wagner is happy to see his father, though is obviously upset when his father announces he’ll pick Vampiro as special referee. Everyone – the cameras, the announcers, Vampiro – picks up on it except for Rey Wagner.


They really needed to air this main event before Guerra de Titanes if they wanted their own angle make any sense. AAA had plenty of time and choice not to do that. They probably should’ve aired the Texano match too, since that started the Tirantes alliance.

Hernandez/Wagner was not much. It certainly was different than a normal AAA match, though not in a strongly positive way. It’s a really good thing Hijo del Wagner was turned rudo soon after this. He’s not good at being a tecnico at all, doesn’t have the offense or personality for it right now. The crowd seemed to care not all about this main event, which is no great surprise. I really don’t understand why the tag match didn’t go last – even the Rey Wagner & Vampiro post match stuff doesn’t come off as a big deal. Hernandez filled his role as overconfident bully fine, there just wasn’t enough here to work with.

The 2v2 was an ok match, maybe a good match, with the start of more evil referee stuff. Everyone before it followed the usual AAA formula, with nothing too exciting but a fair enough effort for the occasion.. Fantasma’s Punisher mask looks cool. It also seems to make it harder for him to show emotion during the match, and that’s really what he needs to do with Texano.

AAA doesn’t do cibernetico eliminations matches often, if ever. AAA didn’t quite do that with the opener, but it ended up being wrestled that way for a large part and it made it interesting to see in that CMLL style. They handled 11 people running around pretty well, with some very fast exchanges to start and getting people in and out of the ring when needed later on. It was funny to see that sequence where they definitely had planned to be a third person with Bengala & Argenis to help trip people up and dive and couldn’t totally ignore it. This was missing the standout individual performance to make it memorable; there were a lot of people doing their part well but no great moment.

I’m just tired of every técnico win having the rudos pop up and get the better of them two seconds later and that happening again here took the match a small bit.

AAA on Twitch: 2018-01-26 

leaping into the unknown

Recapped: 01/26/2018

All matches aired live from Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera.


Australian Suicide beat Lanzelot © to win he AAA World Cruiserweight Championship
(11:47, F5 into a double knee gutbuster, good)

Faby Apache beat Lady Shani © to win the AAA’s Reina de Reinas championship
(8:24, Faby German suplex, great)

Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, La Parka beat Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
(13:45, La Parka urange Dave the Clown, ok)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana defeated Aerostar, Drago, Raptor and Angelikal, Bengala, Máscara de Bronce and Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly © to win the AAA World Trios Championship
(16:18, great)

Angelikal huracanrana Chessman (7:41)

Carta Brava frogsplash Raptor (10:59)

Mocho Cota Jr. pin Bengala (16:18)

Psycho Clown beat Rey Escorpión in a bull terrier match
(18:06, DQ for Murder/Monster run-in, great)

Dr. Wagner Jr. beat Johnny Mundo for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship
(19:05, Vampiro chokeslam, below average)

Hijo del Fantasma © beat Texano Jr. in a cage match to keep the AAA Latin American Championship
(13:06, inexplicable DQ, below average)

What happened: 

move when he tells you to move

AAA’s Guerra de Titanes was a pretty fun undercard with two bewildering matches prior to close it. Four title changed hands. Johnny Mundo appeared to finish up with the promotion, while La Mascara & Máximo debuted for the group. The entire show aired on Twitch, which was only announced a few hours before the show.

The cage match was moved to the main event spot, to save on dead time for construction. They might as well not have bothered with the cage. Hijo del Tirantes interfered three times to help Texano. Bengala came out and spat water in his brother’s face to stop him from escaping. At that point, Vampiro and the commissioner arrived to stop the match, declaring Fantasma the winner by DQ. It wasn’t clear why that happened and even the announcement of the finish was hard to understand. Fantasma and Texano made challenges, and brawled (with Bengala & Tirantes again getting involved), and Vampiro announced they’d have a hair match match in Rey de Reyes in six weeks from now.

Dr. Wagner Jr. is the new heavyweight champion, though that ended up the third most important story in his own match. His son, for reasons not explained on this show, attacked his father with a chair from behind to stop him from winning, then attacked Vampiro and tossed the chair to Hernandez to hide his turn. (Though not well; Hijo de Wagner was rooting for Mundo the rest of the way. Hernandez & Mundo didn’t seem to be part of Hijo de Wagner’s plan.) The match eventually continued for a few more minutes with a second referee before Hijo de Wagner took him out as well and revealed his betrayal to his father. Vampiro recovered, beat up all the rudos, chokeslammed Mundo, Wagner crawled on top for the pin, and Vampiro forced the referee to make the third count.

Johnny Mundo is currently listed on the Aguascalientes card, though Taya on Twitter quickly stated after the match that this would be Mundo’s final AAA show.

aim could’ve been a little better

Psycho Clown & Rey Escorpión’s chain match also finished strangely. It was at least better received. The match proceeded normally for a chain match (in that it took nearly ten minutes and security getting involved to get Escorpión to put on his part of the chain). Psycho was close to winning when Murder Clown & Monster Clown ran in for the DQ. Two mystery men in masks made the save, and revealed themselves as Máximo & La Mascara. The Brazos are back together.

The four way trios title match was elimination style, which didn’t stop everyone from breaking up pins. (Also, Angelikal replaced Argenis, for reasons not explained.) Poder del Norte regained the titles by defeating the Bengala, Mascara de Bronce and Angelikal trio with an unseen foul. OGT immediately attacked the new champs after the match, making them the likely challengers.

La Parka got the best of Dave the Clown in their trios street fight. Parka was left alone with the Clowns after Cuervo & Scoria were put thru tables early. He managed to turn it around himself even before they got involved, and pinned Dave with an urange.

I don’t know why I don’t just have a galley of Faby reaction images

Faby Apache once again became Reina de Reinas champion by defeating Lady Shani. The match was mostly notable for being extremely hard hitting at times.

Australian Suicide won the Cruiserweight championship in the opener. Suicide twisted around Lanzelot’s mask to blind him for a moment, distracting the champ to set up the finish.

In a segment not shown on the Twitch stream, an in-ring segment was taped for the upcoming Ultima Caida show.


a part of the main event that looked good

This was another confounding evening with AAA. The undercard was generally a lot of fun. Look back it, there were a screwy finishes, but they didn’t feel like the fan got cheated out of anything. Chain match ending in a DQ was strange. Máximo & La Mascara showing up more than made up for it. There was no real problem with the other stuff, and the matches were entertaining even with a flaw here or there. The final two matches were the AAA classic disaster flicks, as we’ve come to know on big shows. Wagner/Mundo was flaws in ways expected ever since Vampiro was announced as being involved. Texano/Fantasma was an unexpected super flat ending to the show. It really cooled off what had been a hot show to that point.

The cage match ended flatter the state of Kansas. I’m very willing to believe something didn’t go right – someone missed their cue, someone screwed up the spot, some surprise no-showed and they had to scramble at the last second – because I have trouble believing anyone thought Fantasma winning by DQ in a cage match when the last thing that happened was someone interfering to help Fantasma. On the other hand, it doesn’t really matter why the finish sucked, it still sucked. I’m not sure the match would’ve been all that great anyway. Fantasma & Texano were working here, but saddled with having to build the match around Tirantes getting involved to help Texano many times. Tirantes hadn’t been involved in this feud until now and his involvement felt like lame AAA crap. Texano and Fantasma seemed to know how much failed by trying to make it up with it a big brawl afterwards to convince the fans. It’s tough to be convinced about anything positive at this point. Fantasma & Texano probably can have a great apuesta match. There’s zero reason to believe they’ll have a great one at Rey de Reyes. AAA obviously has zero trust on those two guys to do it themselves and will send people to get involved a million ways in a misguided attempt to help.

bad times for Aerostar

Speaking of misguided: even if Rey Wagner came to AAA and demanded they turn his son so they can feud, could they have at least done in a match where the father and son breakup isn’t treated as a midmatch transition spot? Hijo de Wagner’s turn came off as useless and irrelevant by the end of the match, when his turn didn’t mean anything. The only person who’s actions got the mean something in this match was Vampiro, who got his revenge on Johnny Mundo – for Johnny Mundo being angry at how poorly Vampiro acted, I guess. Vampiro did get a pop for doing Vampiro things, but Vampiro could’ve gotten a pop for doing Vampiro things at any time, and this could’ve been used to make someone who’s actually going to be wrestling for AAA for the next decade a bigger deal by running off Mundo. In the end, the person in charge of creative for AAA went with the idea that the best thing for AAA was the person in charge in creative getting their ego fed (and the people actually in charge of AAA was totally OK with that.) Making stars is irrelevant when it comes to getting yourself wins over people who don’t like you. The match really wasn’t much of anything before the angle override kicked it; Mundo wasn’t much good, maybe checked out because of the situation, and Wagner isn’t really doing a lot any more. It was a slower pace than anything else onto to the show up to this point.

Rey Escorpión is exactly the opponent Psycho Clown needs, so the non-finish there is actually a relief if it keeps the feud going. The post match teased Murder/Monster/Escorpion versus Maximo/Mascara/Psycho, which is not entirely as interesting. Rey Escorpión can do everything Psycho Clown loves to do – brawl, play off the crowd, bleed a disgusting amount – and do it even better than Psycho. Escorpión came off as a guy who really good at wrestling while being totally hateable, the correct opposite of Psycho. Máximo & La Mascara will probably do well in AAA, though I suspect they’ll end up like Wagner and continue to do a fair amount of indie dates on their own.

The four way match was complete and total chaos. It was the mostly the good kind of chaos, with guys fighting six at a time during the portion where all four teams were involved. It was also just a little hard to keep up with during those times. There was probably too much mask ripping in this match given how much there was also going to be the rest of the show and how little any of it really meant. (It did mean Angelikal and Drago were wrestling almost totally uncovered at points.) Angelikal seemed like he knew what he was supposed to be doing there, not just a late sub for Argenis, so there might be more to that story. Cota stealing Bengala’s mask, so we’re left to think he’s gone to the back to get a new one when he’s actually also going to the upper level to set up the moonsault, was a nice way of camouflaging that spot. There were just so many spots that I don’t think a lot of it really stood out – the random técnico trio probably ended doing the best because they were still around to do them when there were just two teams left. This was very watchable if hard to follow.

a long wait for Murder but it paid off for the other team

The street fight – the blood and the weapons – did the best it could to cover up the weakness of the match, but it still dragged in places. The long beatdown of Parka wasn’t at all interesting. Parka sells a lot by just laying there dead. There were some really bad looking spots later on. Parka was supposed to punch Dave to the start the comeback and it didn’t come close. Cuervo and Monster had a bulldog spot go very wrong. The ending sequence went well, carried by a forced by neat looking tope/table spot.

I’m not sure if I should be evaluating Lady Shani and Faby Apache as a wrestling match or a MMA bout. Shots were very often pulled. To Lady Shani’s credit, she tried to give it back to Faby just as hard as Faby was giving it to her. Faby just seemed to be doing more; the powerbomb prior to the finish looked super brutal. This continued the trend of the (non-CMLL) women’s matches looking like the stiffest fights in all of Mexico. If they’re both OK with how it went, I’d love to see the rematch.

Australian Suicide & Lanzelot had some really good spots, though not always in a logical order. The piledriver on the apron being a spot to slow the match down for rest holds was a strange choice. They picked up back at the end and the match finished pretty well. It wasn’t a very memorable match by the time the show ended – the trios match well eclipsed it for insanity. It still was a pretty good showing.


AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-04 


Rudo double team.

Recapped: 11/19/2017

The first match is from Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí, taped 10/01/2017. It only aired on stations which get a longer version of the AAA show (and likely aired as part of one of the previous weeks of TV on those channels, only I can’t consistently track down that show.) It has not aired on any regular AAA show and there’s no public explanation or reason why it hasn’t, which is very unusual for a main event of any TV taping. 

The last four matches aired from Palenque de la Feria, Metepec, Estado de México, taped 10/20/2017.


Pagano beat El Mesías and Joe Lider in a death match
(10:06, Pagano Air Raid Crash thru a table on fire Joe Lider, below average, via thecubsfan)

Bronco González Jr. & Chicano beat Rugido & Solaris
(6:40, Chicano top rope senton con giro Rugido, good, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa beat La Hiedra & Villano III Jr.
(8:54, Niño Hamburguesa frog splash Villano III, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzeloth beat Ángel Mortal Jr., Australian Suicide, Tiger Boy
(7:52, Lanzeloth spinning fireman’s slam Australian Suicide, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown beat Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, La Parka  
(11:05, Dave frontcracker La Parka, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

can you play dead for about 10 seconds for a video package shot, Pagano? Thanks

Earlier in the night, Cuervo & Scoria wanted to talk strategy with La Parka about the main event match, but Parka didn’t want anything with them. Like everyone else who follows this promotion, he never saw these two dudes turn técnico and doesn’t really trust them. He wants them to earn his trust. In one of those remarkable coincidences, they get that chance two seconds later: Psicosis & Histeria attack Parka for no reason and Cuervo & Scoria make the save. That wins Parka over. In the match itself, Los Vipers return to attack the Secta when they have the match won. (Tirantes distracted himself poorly to miss the interference.) Parka stares at the rudos, and gets caught by a frontcracker by Dave the Clown.

Australian Suicide is looking like the lead singer of Green Day now. Tiger Boy is now The Tiger Boy.

The técnicos are mixed tag champs. They pose before the match like the titles are not on the line, but it’s apparently not a title match. La Hiedra is wearing a Sangre Chicana inspired outfit. Hiedra walks out on Villano III for losing the match.

Rugido is another new name for Dizzy, presented as AAA’s new find.

Noti AAA has Dia de los Muertos celebrations and Dr. Wagner Jr. talking about his evolution. They’ve cut back on listing him as “Rey Wagner”, but he still pushes the idea of it here.

a bad idea

I grabbed the Heroes Inmortales off one of the TV internet feeds (and so the video quality is terrible.) It’s also very obviously clipped. The really obvious edit comes about 5:30 into the video, where suddenly a wood board with light tubes and a ladder materialize in the ring. On fan video of the full match (which has since been removed from YouTube but appeared to be close to 30 minutes total), you can see Mesias have trouble folding the ladder, the ladder tipping in the crowd, the fans yelling at Mesias about it and him yelling back. Mesias and Pagano crowd brawl a while later, and it doesn’t seem like the floor camera tries to follow them. The TV version resumes a minute or so after they come back, and Mesias is noticeably limping by that point. There’s more edits after that – a moment where Mesias leaves the ring to yell at fans, fans throw drinks at him, and Mesias goes harder after the fans is also not shown on TV. Same thing with Lider choking Pagano with the barbed wire and a powerbomb on the announce time, Pagano doing a splash to the floor that misses to set up Lider cutting him again, Joe Lider doing an Asia Moosnault, and Mesias taking a splash.

Everyone bleeds. Joe Lider, who seems to have gained a lot of weight lately, takes the Air Raid Crash onto a flaming table. Somehow that’s not the finish – Pagano has to DDT Mesias too, and then covers Joe Lider, who’s grabbing his head and doesn’t actually have his shoulders down. (This is Mesias’ last match for now. In the bigger picture, it comes off like Mesias was probably supposed to be get surgery after TripleMania, was convinced to stick around because they had a shortage of actual Lucha Underground people for the Japan LU shows, and they made this match the main event as a reward while adding Joe Lider just to take the load off. It’s one of many AAA storylines which don’t make sense on screen and only make sense when you guess at what must’ve been going on behind the scenes.)


Hijo del Vikingo is still on this show

The main event combined a lot of wrestlers who aren’t all that interesting into one familiar feeling matches. The Traidor Clowns are one of the least capable groups to stooge Parka’s comedy, but they’re doing it all the same anyway. Cuervo & Scoria were occasionally in the match, but this was much more abut the Vipers and Dave/Parka than anything they had to offer.

The third match and the regular tag match shared some energy and the young guys trying to big things. They both had issues with smoothiness – a little bit of people hesitating on moves, or going at the speed they must’ve practiced the spots rather than naturally reacting to what was happening behind them. Hijo del Vikingo still can do some amazing things but didn’t get focused as much as the star in this one as he did in past match. There really wasn’t any particular direction to the match, and there sort of needs to be one in every match when you’ve got so few of them as week. The finish itself didn’t look as strong as a lot of things that came before it, and this came down to a borderline match on my part. The ending looked like it was a screw up – Angel Mortal broke it up just at 3 – and the result didn’t make any sense if Suicide was going to get the title shot on the very next taping. Maybe AAA didn’t know for sure Suicide was challenging next, but they probably still could’ve safer pinned Tiger Boy or Angel Mortal since there’s very obviously no plans for them. The week to week storytelling is abysmal.

The mixed tag is what you’d expect, a lot of Big spots around Mami & Hamburguesa. They did what they do about as well as they ever do. La Hiedra’s offense didn’t look good at all, but it’s not so much of a surprise given who they were working with here. Villano III trying to do tricky armdrags with Big Mami was pushing it. Really, the rudos couldn’t do the comedy stuff well, and they’re not great enough wrestlers themselves to make this work themselves. Villano III was the better of the two at it, but not so much that you need to see it.

Parka as Mistico, the clowns as Avenro & Mephisto, just slower

The actual opener was borderline match. Nothing much stuck out to me but it kept moving for the time they had. Match was pleasantly fine for a novato match except for the spot about four and half in where Chicano and Solaris were hopelessly lost for about 10 seconds. These aren’t really novatos though; Rugido’s been around forever and Chicano’s not a spring chicken, but they’re being given novato amount of things to do. Bronco is one of their better bases of this group, and so it wasn’t probably an accident he was around to make Rugido’s iffy spots look good. Not sure why you’d make that effort and also have him lose in his debut but so it goes.

The three way match combined the mindless violence of a poor hardcore match with the directionless violence of a bad three way match. We saw an XMW three way hardcore match live, everyone but me seemed to hate it (I just didn’t care enough to hate it, a personal flaw) and I’m not sure it was any worse than this. This was Mesias’ last match before going in for double knee surgery, and he’s moving erratically and painfully for most of the match. The editing definitely hurts the match – it seemed as much for time as content. I’d be livid if I was one of these guys who took all this abuse, very few people got to see it on TV, and more than half the crazy stuff I did wasn’t shown at all. That just shouldn’t be happening in 2017. (A lot of this shouldn’t be happening in 2017.) Even the stuff we did get on TV was made worse by how it was presented; the crowd was much more into Pagano in the match live than it came thru.

This match brings back the old DTU tradition of putting barbed wire on one side of the ring, and everyone (mostly Lider) stopping short of hitting the ropes for no logical reason. That draws snickers from the fan cam I watched, for this super serious death match they’re trying to do. This match is not something I want to see at all, but they also managed to make the least of it.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-02 

next on Mexico’s funniest home videos

Recapped: 09/14/2017

All matches were taped at Palenque de la Fiera Nacional De San Marcos in Aguascalientes on July 27.


Angélico beat Joe Lider
(6:31, Fall of the Angels, below average, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Lady Shani defeated Big Mami, Goya Kong, and La Hiedra to win a spot in the Reina de Reinas title match at TripleMania
(5:56, Lady Shani backracker La Hiedra, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker beat Aerostar, Drago, Raptor
(0:49, Mocho Cota cradle suplex Drago, n/r, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Pagano & Psycho Clown beat  Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Mesías
(14:56, Psycho Clown Code Red Dr. Wagner, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

who need a tailbone

Even though every other AAA tag match is first pinfall for the win, and even the multiwoman match was first pinfall, the main event suddenly became an elimination match after Pagnao was pinned. Everyone was confused, but they mostly wanted Psycho to be handicapped and get two pins in a row to win. Mesias beat Pagano, Psycho beat Mesias, and Psycho beat Wagner after a few minutes more. Wagner attacked and unmasked Psycho to end the show.

Raptor landed a plancha on one of Poder del Norte, but the others snuck in thru a ground exit. They laid out Aerostar & Raptor with moves on the steps, then Cota quickly beat Mocho Cota. The post match attack lasted about as long as the match. Ratpor was treated as injured, but he was on TripleMania, so who knows. The técnicos now lead two matches to one.

The four way match was for the title shot that already happened at TripleMania. Goya attacked everyone on the way to the ring, which didn’t mean anything but started everyone attacking everyone else. Shani seemed to be back to being a ruda here.


this was good for Raptor

The AAA shows feel more like something to endure than enjoy. This particular lame duck taping is the worst – this is where the Hard Rock show needs to go, even though it’ll never happen – but this hasn’t been a fun show in a while.

The main event was explicitly a preview of TripleMania, as hyped by the announcers. It’s unnecessary and beside the point after the fact, outside of the oddity of Psycho & Wagner running thru the TripleMania finish. It looked better here, as did Pagano’s dropkick off the apron. The crowd was way into this, but I could find a reason to care.

The best matches on these shows have been the Poder del Norte/tecnicos match, so this one was scarely more than an angle. I guess the idea is not to make sure all the matches feel different, but I would’ve been happy with five about the same.

The woman’s match was just a lot of moves. The tried to set up sequences but it was mostly the women betraying each other repeatedly with no direction. It ended and that was good, the moves generally look OK, and there wasn’t enough here to hate. It did feel a lot longer than six minutes, maybe just because Goya was attacking before the whistle, maybe because it was just a lot of stuff.

Someone totally forgot the finish in the opener. Either Angelico forgot, or Lider went to the top for it far sooner than then he was planned. Both men spent a lot of time waiting for each other to do something, and I spent time wondering why AAA couldn’t have made an edit. This was a boring match with a really bad looking moment, not exactly the return to TV you’d hope for Angelico. It’s also not a super logical build for Joe Lider, who’s only been on TV three times since April, lost all those matches, and will somehow be main eventing the next card. Did AAA not know Lider was main eventing the next show at this point? Were they trying to do something to convince Angelico to stick around? Does it just not make any sense because it’s AAA? Probably.

this was not good for Raptor

AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-05 

Mundo moonsault

Recapped: 08/08/2017


Dr. Wagner Jr. beat El Mesías
(7:25, Wagner Driver, ok, via 
luchalibreaaatv )

Psycho Clown versus Pagano had no finish
(9:25, Mesias & Wagner run in, ok, via

Johnny Mundo © beat Texano Jr. for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship
(8:48, foul, ok, via

What happened: 

I needed an extra GIF and this seemed OK

Earlier, Fantasma tried to talk Vampiro into doing the three way title match. Vampiro explains he already made Texano & Mundo for the title tonight and he can’t change it, but he can make Fantasma referee. Later, Mundo berates Vampiro only to find out Vampiro stripped Taya of the Reina de Reinas title belt. Vampiro threatens to do the same to Mundo, and Mundo threatens lawyers. Vampiro says it won’t matter because “next week”, Texano will beat him for the titles anyway. Mundo isn’t concerned because he has Kevin Kross on his side. Vampiro points out Kross is fighting #1 briefcase now and might be coming for Mundo at any time. (Hilariously, we can see the #1 briefcase sitting on a table nearby.) In the graphics, AAA’s stopped referring to the individual titles and are simply calling Mundo the “Tri Champion”. Vampiro shows up before the match to announce Hijo del Fantasma as special referee.

Texano is more técnico in this match, though he and Fantasma have problems with Fantasma accidentally gets in his way on a dive. Mundo kicks out of both of Texano’s finishing moves on fair counts. Mundo crawls out and brings in a chair, Texano kicks him and grabs it, Fantasma stops Texano from using that chair and pulls it away, and Mundo fouls and cradles Texano while Fantasma is throwing out the chair. Fantasma counts the pin, also missing a tights pull. Mundo makes Fantasma raise his arm after the fact. Texano attacks Fantasma for costing him the match, but Fantasma takes him out. Kevin Kross urns in for no obvious reason, and that’s enough to get Fantasma and Texano stop fighting. Kross still gets with a double clothesline. Mundo comes in to congratulate Kross on a job well done, but Kross gets in his face. (No one has a briefcase here.) Hernandez walks out to argue with Kross, and Mascara de Bronce follows behind to springboard into a dropkick on both Hernandez and Kross. Mundo gets his turn to slam Bronce, then Texano and Fantasma attack Mundo. Neither Kross nor Hernandez make the save, watching from the outside. Mundo’s held in the middle for a lasso shot. Hernandez, Mundo and Kross all leave together even though they were about to fight. Texano and Fantasma argue in the ring and Bronce mostly disappears.

Psycho tope

Announcers discuss the Alvarado’s terrible history in apuesta matches. This time, Mesias’ played nine minutes in, but Mesias actually came out – he came thru the crowd and attacked Pagano. From behind. Psycho just watched as Mesias hit Pagano with the barbed wire bat, then decided to make the save. Wagner runs out, and Psycho Clown stands around doing nothing until Wagner gets there and hits him with a chair. It’s dumb. Both Psycho and Pagano end up bleeding, Pagano bleeding a lot. Pagano should win by DQ for Mesias’ attack, but no decision is ever called. Medics come into take the técnicos away without doing anything to stop the rudos, and get attacked. The técnicos are repeatedly pulled off the backboards and attacked viscously for a while; this is the same bit as in Juarez, but goes on for longer and feels heavier.

Jesus Zuniga announced this match as the semifinal. Even live, it’s not the semifinal – but it was on the poster so I guess he was looking at that. Dr. Wagner is totally a técnico thru the match. Pagano’s music starts to play seven minute in. Pagano is never seen, but Mesias stops fighting to look for him, waits about twenty seconds, and then is easily beat because of the distraction.

La Llave de la Gloria and the annual AAA pilgrimage are talked about in the Noti AAA. They also talk about the Mesias/Pagano rivalry.


excessive dive GIFs are the refuge of someone with no good ideas

This wasn’t the greatest advertisement for TripleMania. None of the three singles matches came across as a big deal as expected, and all the matches had underwhelming endings if they even had endings. These matches were supposed to be TripleMania level, but they weren’t as good as Suicide/Bengala last week and it didn’t feel like a big show was coming. The post match attack after the second match was at least a little bit effective, but the title match picture has so many different agendas and none of them are really clicking.

The main event was fine, I guess, and maybe I’m underrating it, but it felt underwhelming considering the guys involved. They working slow wand less impressively than you’d expect with the similar match on Lucha Underground. This was the one of these matches where someone actually trying the moves that actually win matches, only the crowd didn’t seem to care all that much and it never felt the intensity of a big title match. All the different subplots and extraneous aren’t helping the match they’re building at Triplemania; the three way doesn’t feel like the big title match, but the minor one that’s killing time for a PPV cycle before they get to the really important matches (Kross/Mundo? Fantasma/Texano?)

Pagano & Psycho Clown tried to have a straight technical match and it was OK at best. It’s not what either man does well, and looked slow and clunky at times. The crowd wasn’t all that into it, not reacting much to the near falls they were doing. They seemed to like the characters but weren’t much interested in the outcome, or they knew there was not going to be an ending until a finisher or a foul. That turned out right, since this was just a set up to have the TripleMania rudos destroy the TripleMania técnicos, and they cared much more about. The angle was effective but the match itself wasn’t worth seeing.

The opener was a casual singles match that was just doing the safe but not so interesting stuff, and then had the always terrible music finish. Pagano never even actually appearing made Mesias look even dumber, but it’s still a dumb finish. Given that ending, they wisely didn’t seem like it was that important to do all that much in the match. Wagner showed more than Mesias, but this wasn’t a shadow of the TripleMania fight they were redoing here.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 

Venum dive

Recapped: 07/16/2017

All matches were taped at Poliforum, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas on 06/19/2017 


Texano Jr. beat Marty Martinez
(7:59, sit down powerbomb, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa beat Lady Shani & Venum for the AAA World Mixed Tag Team Championship
(7:52, Mami inside cradle Shani, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria ©  beat Hernandez & Máscara de Bronce for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
(6:38, Cuervo powerbomb Mascara de Bronce, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana © beat Aerostar, Drago, Raptor for the AAA World Trios Championship in an outcome later overturned (7:10, Tito Santana frog splash Raptor, good, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened:

every taping crazy Aerostar dive

In a vignette, Mocho Cota tries to raise Carta & Soul’s spirits after losing their masks. We’re shown that backstage, and then shown a camera with Jesus Zuniga coming into interview them. It’s like two different styles of interviews happening at once. OGT pop up from nowhere to reiterate their challenge for the title match. Soul Rocker is called “Tito” here and Tito Santana on the graphic – Arturo eventually explains it for those who don’t know. it stills says Soul Rocker on Tito’s Poder del Norte shirt. Poder del Norte is mostly the Milicia now, borrowing that look (which was also Mocho Cota Sr’s look for a time) as a trio. Raptor has the 3 briefcase to cash in for this title match.

Raptor gets a visual pin on Carta Brava, but Piero is looking outside for reasons not clear. Mocho Cota lips in a foul soon after and pins Raptor, and Tito adds a frog splash for the win. Poder del Norte’s music play for about 5 seconds before Vampiro’s music interrupts. He walks to the ring, and Poder del Norte walk around him to pose on the stage. Vampiro says it was an exciting match but that isn’t the way to win a title match in AAA. Vampiro announces he’s throwing out this match, and Poder del Norte vs the técnicos in a best of five series where the winning team keeps the trios titles. The tencicos do a triple dive on the rudos, which is half missed by the camera.

The new Panini Album is released July 19th and is pushed hard as a result. Noti AAA focuses on the plane unveiling.

dropkick is not good, sell is a lot

Mascara de Bronce looks for Vampiro before his match, and finds him with Hernandez. Neither are happy to see either, and Vamp points out Mascara de Bronce doesn’t have his briefcase. Vampiro explains they’re partners for a tag team title match tonight. He doesn’t explain why, because there is no explanation. Hernandez refuses a tag in the first minute of the match. Cuervo and Scoria repeatedly knock Hernandez off the apron anyway, which appears to anger him to enough to want to get into the match. He still can’t for a while, but does come in with a double clotheslines on the rudos when they mess up, works with Bronce for a minute or two, then pulls Bronce off a pin. Hernandez talks Bronce into continuing, and of course they mess up their next spot (in storyline and in real life.) Bronce gets pinned, then Kevin Kross comes out and throws him around for a bit. Hernandez gets Mascara’s briefcase from somewhere – and now it’s the #4 one, and Bronce definitely didn’t bring it to the match – gives it to Kevin Kross for some reason. I have no idea.

La Hiedra tries flirting with Venum to be his partner for the mixed tag title match, but he says he’s already got a partner. Lady Shani shows up just in time to pull Venum out of that mess and to their match. Announcers are still billing Lady Shani as a ruda, though she’s been on the tecnica side for months. (I haven’t fixed it either, guess I should.) Venum has a “1” briefcase, which isn’t the right number and appears to be an actual briefcase as opposed to the one they had earlier. Shani has the match probably won with a backcracker on Big Mami, but lets go of the pin and stands up because La Hiedra’s music is playing. (This is so dumb.) Hiedra is still nowhere near the ring when Shani, motionless, gets inside cradled by Big Mami.

The Marty/Texano match didn’t air on the TV show but is included on the YouTube channel. Something the announcers say is very obviously removed around at the 5:10 mark.


Kross suplex watch

The main event was a little sloppy at time – a problem with all the matches this week – but had some exciting moments and these two teams have potential for a good series of matches if they get better as they go along. The Poder del Norte work much better against these técnicos in action matches than they were getting out of the main event feud and they’re obviously motivated by their recent focus. Raptor is not yet at the level of his partners but these matches will help him get there. This could’ve gone a bit longer, but it’s one of probably six, so it’s fair that they’re going to save things for other matches. It would’ve been less dramatic but less forced if Vampiro had earlier decried there would no more fouls in title matches as part of making the matches more serious rather than coming off as inconsistent by bringing it up here only after the main event was over. The general idea – AAA is going to take title matches seriously now so title should be taken seriously – makes sense as a big concept, but it’s tough to believe in when both the other title matches had silly/dumb finishes and weren’t about deciding who was the best team. Saying you want title matches to be serious on the same show where two people who’ve never teamed and are feuding getting a title match is incongruous. AAA’s track record is they’re going to ignore this push when it suits them too, so there’s no reason to buy in caring until they prove otherwise, and they didn’t prove anything on this show

The tag match was whatever.. They did try to have it make internal sense, but it was still a match which made little sense to exist and accomplished little. It doesn’t even benefit Scoria & Cuervo to get an easy win because no one took the match seriously and they were bit players in it. It’s not doing all that much for Mascara de Bronce (or Hernandez, who was so dumb that he didn’t want to win the tag titles.) It didn’t do much for storyline Vampiro commission, booking a match that didn’t make any sense. There were a couple good spots, but there was also some awkwardness and nothing worth checking out outside of the context.

flying moth

What we learned about in the mixed tag title championship is that title is less important than a Shani/Hiedra feud, about the twelfth most important feud in the promotion right now. Yet, that feud isn’t important enough to actually give them the mixed tag titles to fight over (so maybe they really are going to fight for the Reina de Reinas championship.) Instead, Hamburguesa and Mami win the belts in a match where they seem much less over than usual and do not look especially good in the ring. Shani & Venum do some cool things, enough to just pull this up to OK for me, but there are some groaners of bad spots, no particular flow or story to the match since they’re both sort of tecnica teams and a terrible cliched finish. That OK is a generous grade.

There may be other weirder reasons why Texano/Marty was cut out of TV, but it comes across as easy to skip anyway. It’s not bad, but it’s a cold match – the crowd doesn’t really know Marty, there’s not much to get him over, and they don’t care about this fight all that much. The biggest reactions are to the normal lasso spots, which leads into the finish. I’m not sure what Texano is supposed to be at this point: he’s the slight técnico here and hasn’t been presented as rudo much since the turn. It’s also a little bit sloppy at times, not enough to tank it but it never gets a high level.

keep on swinging

07/27/2017 AAA TV results from Aguascalientes (final main taping before TripleMania)

AAA TV (THU) 07/27/2017 Palenque de la Fiera Nacional De San Marcos, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes [AAA]
1) Angélico b Joe Lider
dark match. Angelico won via crucifix powerbomb.
2) Bengala b Australian SuicideVenumMáscara de BronceNiño HamburguesaMurder ClownMonsther Clown [battle royal]
Probably start of Part 1. Winner gets a spot in the Copa TripleMania (others may not be involved in it.) Order of elimination: Mascara de Bronce, Venum, Australian Suicide, Nino Hamburguesa, Murder Clown, Murder Clown, leaving Bengala as the winner.
3) Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin b Averno, Chessman, Pirata Morgan, Súper Fly
Averno fouled Pirata, and Lanzelot picked up the pin.
4) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. b Johnny Mundo & Kevin Kross
Fantasma pinned Mundo after Texano was put thru a table. Vampiro confronted Mundo after the match.
5) Discovery (Aguascalientes) b Xtreme-X [hair, mask]
Discovery kept his mask, took Xtreme-X’s hair.
6) Lady Shani b Big MamiGoya KongLa Hiedra [Reina De Reinas, #1 ContendersEliminatoria para sacar retadora al Reina de Reinas AAA en Triplemania XXV (posted by Nada mas que lucha libre)
Lady Shani beat La Hiedra to get the title shot at TripleMania.
7) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker b Aerostar, Drago, Raptor Raptor, Drago y Aerostar vs El Poder del Norte por el Campeonato de Tercias AAA (posted by Nada mas que lucha libre)
Match went only about a minute. Raptor did a springboard plancha onto one of the other rudos before the match started, but the other two came thru the crowd and took out the tecnicos. Raptor was taken out (and said to be taken to the hospital) after a move in the aisle, and Drago was quickly double teamed and beat. The tecnicos lead the series 2-1.
8) Pagano & Psycho Clown b Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Mesías
Psycho won, but Wagner once again left him unmasked.

Air Date: 08/26 (hours before TripleMania) and 09/02.

You know what? This is going to come off as cruel and maybe even small minded, but it’s a busy day for me and this is a simple way to hack thru it. Let’s make this a “what’s AAA did wrong in this match” post to be quick about.

1: at least Angelico won? But it’s a dark match. Angelico not being in the plans for TripleMania is sort of fair – it was his choice to go elsewhere for a while, AAA had other things to do – but there’s no real reason he couldn’t have been in the #30 spot battle royal. Or Lider, for that matter. Maybe things will get better after this event cycle, but is only reluctantly using someone who should be an important piece for them.

2: and then the battle royal itself has people who were announced for other matches on TripleMania. Does that mean they’re working Copa TripleMania and working twice? Maybe. Maybe AAA just needed more bodies for a battle royal, but they didn’t use two guys they had. Mascara de Bronce, who’s occasionally teased as challenging for the title in this promotion, is thrown out first. It’s totally going to backfire if AAA puts the titles on Bronce, I like him a lot and do not want to see his career screwed up by a bad creative decision, and I really don’t understand why they haven’t used him stronger to this point.

3: You may remember Pirata Morgan turned on the OGT last time we saw him and had a second mysterious speech to La Parka. You may not remember this, because it hasn’t been followed up in weeks. You may remember that the tecnicos didn’t want anything to do with Ricky Marvin because he abandoned them. It’s unclear if anyone remembers any of this. AAA is doing far more storylines this year, but the week to week consistency is barely existent.

4: Obviously Mundo doesn’t have any big problems if he’s taking pinfalls. The post match was Mundo & Vampiro replaying their bit from Tijuana, where Mundo wants to give up the belts but Vampiro says giving up the belts is disrespectful to lucha libre history and says Hijo del Fantasma & Texano are going to beat him for them. The AAA recap gives the impression that Hijo del Fantasma and Texano stand meekly off camera while this is happening, they are not functional character in their own storyline. On Facebook, Vampiro put over his favorite performer (Vampiro) for his performance. Vampiro is really good at getting himself over with these bits, Vampiro is not really good at getting anyone else over, it’s unclear if this bothers anyone in AAA. (Not just AAA – LU’s Cero Miedo was all about Vampiro being awesome for going thru the flaming table, and Vampiro being awesome for revealing himself as Pentagon’s master. It’s always going to be about Vampiro.)

5:  No one should ever call themselves Xtreme-X. I want a national lucha commission just to veto stupid names, and I want to have that job. If you come in with any version of the word Extreme, any Dragon or any Sexy, you are being rejected. There are enough of all those already.

6:  Lady Shani is now in line for the title shot at TripleMania. She still may not be the only one getting it; MedioTiempo mentions the possibility of unnamed foreign women being brought into get the shot too. On +LuchaTV’s podcast, Sexy Star made it clear that she was back in AAA to be champion but the actual women in AAA weren’t worth her time. Shani’s the best woman AAA could’ve chosen of those who were there, There’s a possibly really good story that could be told her about Shani avenging her real life friend/mentor Taya to get back the title she never lost, but she’s at best just the opponent for Sexy Star to beat, and possibly will still have only a minor role on TripleMania. AAA needs to be making stars who want to work for the promotion, and will instead be using them as filler.

7: Poder del Norte vs Aerostar, Drago and Raptor seems like the best match on the show, so it goes sub 2 minutes. When I saw this result, I thought the tecnicos were going to get forced into having Match 4 on the same night, battle valiantly but lose to tie the series. Instead, the whole thing goes on hiatus for weeks.

8: Dr. Wagner standing over Psycho Clown is a great visual to set up TripleMania. That match is slotted to air the week after TripleMania. I’d like to have hope that they’ll switch things around, but they haven’t bothered in the past.

The next main taping is August 26th for TripleMania – but AAA is doing La Llave a La Gloria on Saturday in Ceyala and 08/15 in Naucalpan, and I’ve realized those are parts of AAA I’m actually more interested in by right now. So look forward to those.


TripleMania XXV lineup (08/26, Mexico City) – Wagner/Psycho, Mesias/Pagano

AAA TV (SAT) 08/26/2017 Arena Ciudad de México, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
TripleMania XXV
1) ? vs ?? [Llave a la Gloria]
Finals of the tournament. Number of participants, format, and the actual participants TBA.
2) Big Mami, Dinastía, Estrella Divina, Máscara de Bronce vs Hernandez, La Hiedra, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown
3) Sexy Star vs ? [Reina De Reinas]
winner decided in Aguascalientes. First TV defense, 2nd overall.
4) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs Aerostar & Drago and Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Gfw 1 & Gfw 2 [AAA TAG]
3rd defense
5) La Parka vs LashleyMoosePsicosis IIIntocableScorpió Jr.Pimpinela EscarlataLanzeloth9101112131415161718182021222324252627282930 [Copa TripleMania]
will include people who are not in AAA but maybe have worked in the past. Pirata Morgan, Sangre Chicana, Blue Demon Jr., Villanos mentioned as possibly being in the match, and AAA luchadors not otherwise booked may be in as well. Lanzeloth earned his spot from the Golden Opportunity match.
6) Johnny Mundo © vs Texano Jr.Hijo del Fantasma [TLC, AAA HEAVY, AAA CRUISER, AAA LA]
third defense for Cruiserweight/Heavyweight, fifth defense for Latin American title.
7) Pagano vs El Mesías [street fight]
8) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. [mask]
members of their families (Brazo de Plata mentioned, Maximo & La Mascara teased) may appear at this match

Vampiro, Dorian Roldan and a Roshfrans rep went thru all the matches, on a stream aired on Facebook Live. I was not able to watch the whole thing and there were a few techinical issues with the stream, but I think we got pretty much all of it.

Pagano & Mesias was treated as the biggest match they were announcing today. They closed the press conference by trying to get in a fight with security (and, occasionally, Vampiro) getting in between them. Vampiro talked of the extreme matches he had with Mesias elsewhere. This is clearly going to be the same sort of weapons and stunts spectacle match.

Maybe that’s the bigger theme here: the top 4 matches are all spectacle matches. They’re each a different kind of spectacle. They might be good matches, but the focus is more on being remarkable happenings.

Texano Jr. and Hijo del Fantasma appeared to talk about the triple title TLC match. Unlike Pagano/Mesias, these two tag partners turned enemies were not emotional. Hijo del Fantasma even spoke of wanting to be friends with Texano again after this, though that seemed unlikely. Vampiro confirmed Johnny Mundo had not actually relinquished the title, and blamed it on fans and media misunderstanding what was happening (and not the participants doing a poor job of doing the story in a way that the audience could follow.)

Aside 1: Vampiro’s Facebook explanation for taking the Reina title away from Taya was that Taya had won it by referee stoppage after an illegal choke, they were taking titles seriously now, and they really had to change hands by pinfall or submission. Vampiro has now made a match where the men’s titles will change hands not via pinfall and not via submission. This is reason #14 why Vampiro shouldn’t have made that Facebook post, it just keeps looking dumber.

Aside 2: the TLC stip allows for all sorts of weird finishes, especially when AAA want to be known as exciting creative storytellers. There are three belts, maybe they begin splitting them back up by having someone grab two but not one of the others. Maybe Kevin Kross, conspicuously missing from the lineup, completes his betrayal of Mundo by grabbing the belts himself. Maybe Mascara de Bronce gets the briefcase back, cashes it in during the match, and gets the belts himself. Maybe it’s just a normal finish.

Aside 3: I think Taya being caught off guard by AAA taking the Reina de Reinas title from her and giving it to Sexy Star was very real. I think Mundo & Taya’s anger over the situation is real. And I also think Taya & Mundo reached a decision that the best revenge would not to be to quit the company early, but to make sure AAA paid Mundo every dollar that was owed to him and satisfy themselves with clowning Vampiro on social media in the meantime. AAA has shown they’re not going to stop working with Mundo whatever he & Taya say about Vampiro; they’re untouchable as long as they keep on Vampiro. They’re also smart enough to be using this for attention and sympathy, but the storyline there is seems more to build them up for other promotions than one with AAA. AAA’s not deviating from their original plan, and it doesn’t seem like it was a big question from the media.

The Copa TripleMania was said to be a “ruleta rusa”, which is usually a multiman match or tournament when the winner escapes and the loser has to keep going until the last person loses their hair or mask. It’s 30 people, so I think it’s really just a royal rumble this time. AAA kind of announced this back in May when Lanzeloth won a shot for a dream battle royal at TripleMania. It was explained here as a match celebrating the different eras of AAA for the 25th Anniversary. (They should’ve made advertised it as a 25 person match!) The AAA website lineup lists only La Parka, Scorpio Jr., Intocable and Psicosis (II) in the match. However, they seemed say Lashley and Moose would be participating at the press conference, and Dorian threw out Blue Demon, Villanos, Pirata Morgan and Sangre Chicana names as possible. Chicana appeared on AAA TV this week in a cameo that seemed to foreshadow him being part of this, and Pirata is a semiregular on TV.

Psicosis being there was actually the biggest surprise of the night. The luchador also known Ripper left AAA in 2009, and was part of a group of wrestlers (Kraneo/Alebrije and Morphosis/Histeria most notable) who fought AAA for the rights to their names in court. There was no dispute that AAA created the characters, but they argued they had given value to them by carrying them for many years and should be able to keep them. They joined CMLL in 2010 as Los Invasors, but eventually changes to their current names because CMLL decided they no longer wanted to be part of any lawsuit. It appeared these guys never won the rights to names, but could still get away with using them off TV and out of CMLL. Showing up in this press conference means quitting CMLL, but I don’t think it necessarily means Psicosis will be appearing in AAA full time – like Scorpio and Intocable, it may just an AAA special appearance or two and headed to the indies. Histeria/Morphosis has barely been used in CMLL the last few years and I’d suspect he’ll be in this match if AAA is interested. I’m doubtful Kraneo will do the same.

Aside 4: Psicosis and Sexy Star returning to AAA shows that AAA is willing to make a deal with anyone, no matter what happened before, if they like the deal. I don’t think Fenix or Pentagon or Daga or Garza want to go back to AAA right now or any time soon, but there will be an offer if they ever change their minds. Never say never because never is a very long time.

Despite probably being in the middle of a Best of 5 Series, the Aerostar/Drago/Raptor vs Poder del Norte feud won’t appear here, with Aerostar & Drago challenging (and unlikely to win) for another team title. The Poder del Norte and OGT have been large focuses of TV time the last three months and they’re maybe in the battle royal but didn’t even get announced for it.

Dorian talked around not having a specific GFW tag team to announce for the tag title match. Eddie Edwards & Davey Richards had been announced as appearing at TripleMania months ago and they may have been planned to be the team, but Davey Richards had said he wasn’t staying with GFW just this week. (Richards & Edwards had also broken up and been feuding, but that’s probably a lesser concern here.) They’ll probably find someone else to team with Edwards.

AAA has a 2v2 women’s tag match on their poster for Aguascalientes, but the two women most likely to get that title shot – Faby Apache & Ayako Hamada – are not booked in it. AAA could easily acknowledge who’s in the #1 contenders match, which might be an added reason for people to come to show to Aguascalientes. This year has shown AAA will obstinately continue to promote the lineup they’ve acknowledged is false, and it’s probably not a smart idea for to be spending this many words on this lineup too.

Aside 5: Big Mami & La Hiedra being announced as in the Relevos AAA is an oversight, since I’d assume they’re still going to be in the contender’s match and we’re supposed to believe they have a shot at winning it.

I’m still not quite sure what’s going on with the La Llave a la Gloria contest, but they did announce dates for things. The final tryout is Saturday in Celaya. They will select the finalists in Arena Naucalpan in August (probably the 12, but Record has it as the 15?). The finalsts will appear on TripleMania. Not sure if the means two teams of finalists facing off or some AAA wrestlers being added to an opening match.

Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner did not appear at the press conference, with the idea that they’d appear at a future press conference and this was more about the rest of the card. They did mention Super Porky and perhaps other members of both families in the corners of both men. That’s a tease of Maximo & La Mascara, though Maximo’s already said he’s taken a booking elsewhere. One of the reasons to bring Sexy Star back would seem to be these sort of media events, but she did not appear either.

This show will probably air live at least in Mexico, but AAA was not ready to say when or how. It certainly appears Leo Riano’s claim that Televisa would be broadcasting the show is at least on the table, since that’s the only non-PPV option. There’d be a certain strangeness about Televisa airing the show. AAA never can refer to the Arena Ciudad de Mexico building by name on TV because the building is owned by rival Azteca, so Televisa broadcasting a show from there would be unusual.

AAA does not list a start time, which might be an oversight or it might be up in the air because of the television situation. The ticket website lists an 8pm start and that’s what MedioTiempo reported. It’s possible that’s just when the doors open and it’s 9pm.

AAA claimed they’ve sold 60-65% of the arena. At the last press conference, they were claiming to have sold 80% of the arena. Those numbers seemed like pressure sales tactics and probably still are, but I can’t imagine this being any less than 90% full when it happens

The lineup is – ok? There’s a lot of caveats and a lot of adjusting for what AAA is now as opposed to a few years ago, but it’s a good effort considering what they have. Psycho/Wagner will probably be worth the price of admission, with the high emotion overcoming a likely predictable worked match. Pagano/Mesias will probably be a gory death match but they’ll both go so far over the top that it’ll be memorable. Ladder matches in AAA (and most of lucha libre) don’t usually hold together all that well, but Mundo’s got experience in some very good ones and he could make it work.

The front half of the card isn’t as promising but it’s not death. The Copa TripleMania will probably be jaw dropping bad at points if the likes of immobile 2017 Scorpio Jr. are already being included, but there will at least be the novelty of seeing who else will show up – if they’re giving away Ripper at the press conference, there’s probably at least one more random name being kept secret. The tag title match is actually kind of disappointing: I’d have much rather seen the tecnicos against Poder del Norte, it’s a match that shown to have a higher ceiling and neither Cuervo/Ozz or Murder/Monster have been that interesting with a lot of TV matches this year. I wasn’t sure Dinastia was making this card so I’m glad to endure another Relevos AAA for his 60 seconds of ring time. And the Llave match might steal the night depending on who makes it thru and what limitations they have.

I’m really happy they’re not wasting time with an Alberto match. Moose and Lashley in a battle royal seems a waste of bringing them in, but I’d rather see them wasted then them being wedged into a different program they don’t fit in. (More AAA’s fault for not setting anything up prior.) There’s also no NOAH guys announced, but perhaps they’ll side into the Copa TripleMania too. There’s a lot of OK stuff here but there’s nothing truly terrible, and that’s an improvement. You take what you can get from AAA this year.

07/16 AAA TV in Monterrey – Sexy Star (yes, her) returns & wins Reina de Reinas


AAA TV (SUN) 07/16/2017 Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon [AAA, LuchaMania Monterrey]
1) Australian Suicide, Mamba, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown b Bengala, El Elegido, Estrella Divina, Marty The Moth
Marty was on the tecnico team for no apparent reason and turned on the team. Murder pinned Eleigdo. Suicide and Bengala feuded.
2) Kevin Kross b Máscara de Bronce
Segment started as a tribute to Pimpinela. Kross interrupted and Mascara de Bronce ran in to make the save and start the match. Billed as winner gets the title shot briefcase, unclear if Kross ended up with it.
3) Argenis, La Parka, Psycho Clown b Averno, Chessman, Dr. Wagner Jr.
Psycho won, but was unmasked by Wagner after.
4) Sexy Star b Faby ApacheLa HiedraLady ShaniGoya KongBig Mami [Reina De Reinas]
Vampiro declared the title vacant because Taya wouldn’t come to Monterrey to defend. (She hadn’t been advertised.) Sexy Star won the title in her return to the company in her hometown. Kevin Kross beat up everyone after.
5) El Mesías b AngélicoPagano
Angelico returned in this match, which started as him versus Pagano but Mesias added himself. He fouled Pagano to set up his win.
6) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker [AAA TRIOS]
Tecnicos lead 2-0
7) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © b Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. [AAA TAG]
made a title match. Cuervo & Scoria’s second defense. Kross helped them win, and got yelled at by Vampiro.
8) Dr. Wagner Jr. b Psycho Clown
Wagner beat and unmasked Psycho Clown, with Hijo del Tirantes back to helping Psycho Clown.

Air Date: August 12 and August 19th. If TripleMania is starting around 9pm (ticket website says 8pm, that could be doors open), maybe one more week of TV will squeeze thru. This still is probably going to be the last thing most people see who are going to the show.

As best I can work out, AAA and Sexy Star decided they were working together again at near the end of June. It may have been in the works for a while: that’s when Dulce Garcia appears to have taken down her pinned tweet about saying goodbye to the Sexy Star character and starting asking her fans if they’d like to see Sexy Star. It was close enough to start of Lucha Underground Season 3 Part 2 that it seemed like she was reference that, but the other things we know point at a decision then. AAA has been working hard at trying to bring some names back, and Sexy Star seems to be the one agreeable.

It does not appear to be a cheap deal. Sexy Star came back to AAA, but she came back by being given the Reina de Reinas title in her hometown. To do that, AAA had to get the Reina de Reinas title back from Taya. Taya was supposed to be on the 06/19 Nuevo Laredo taping, and maybe AAA would’ve taken it from her then, but she missed the show (and others) due a neck injury.  On today’s Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer says AAA then asked Johnny Mundo to bring the belt to 06/30 taping in Puebla. Johnny didn’t know anything was up, so he brought and had no problem leaving it with AAA when they told him they needed to shoot some photos of it. AAA posted the press release about the title being vacant the next day, not having told Mundo or Taya that was the plan.

Taya was booked in Los Angeles and was never advertised for Monterrey. (Mundo initially was advertised for Monterrey, then wasn’t on the poster when it came out.) Vampiro told the Monterrey crowd that Taya was scheduled to be in Monterrey but refused to defend the belt or come to the show, and that’s (now) why he was stripping Taya of the championship. A six way was held for the belt with the returning Sexy Star and the remaining women. Sexy Star won.

…and all of that was just a set up to Kevin Kross beating up six women, including putting Faby Apache thru a table for the second time. (You may not remember the first time, because it was laughed off after.) Kevin Kross currently doesn’t have a match announced for TripleMania, but he has the title shot briefcase (I think – he said so on Twitter but it’s not clear in the results) and maybe a match with Vampiro in August.

The WOR report says AAA was still planning on having Mundo lose the titles to Mascara de Bronce. (I’d guess that means Bronce is getting the briefcase back at some point, and that AAA is trying to do some variation of ECW Mikey Whipwreck. It hasn’t really been working.) It’s unclear if Mundo will come back to AAA at this point. This perfectly sets up Johnny Mundo showing up at the next Crash show in Tijuana, dumping on AAA and being entered into The Crash’s own heavyweight title match, if that’s what Mundo would want to do. It really depends on what’s he’s required to do for AAA at this point – even if he does have to come back, I don’t think this is going to set up for AAA getting great things out of him. AAA would probably be best off just moving on and taking Mundo out of the title picture, but there’s the small problem of him having the belts.

(And lord knows how this is going to go over in season 4, where the divide between people with AAA and those without are not over.)

Vampiro’s responded on Twitter – Storify helpfully keeps deleting Tweets – with the idea that Actually, this is all Taya’s fault for refusing to go along with their plan and they can’t let talent have dictating the plans of the “hundreds” of people involved in creating storylines and lineups. People who pay attention to AAA will note that AAA changes storyline and lineups all the time, and that the talent has always had a role in dictating storylines. It seems safe to assume that Sexy Star was only coming back if she was going to be champion on her first day in Monterrey – there’s literally no other reason to do that match, as it would’ve been a selling point for TripleMania if Sexy Star instead challenged for it. Heck, it’s even faintly possible Taya might been willing to go with whatever storyline they’ve got here, but it doesn’t appear Vampiro or anyone else actually told Taya was going on before it happened. They’ve been lying to her and Mundo for a while now, and the AAA view on the wrestling business is it’s her fault for not silently enduring it.

Vampiro’s promised a video later, which will probably be attacking people who don’t see the wisdom of AAA’s ways if it’s anything like those Twitter comments. He’s best just not saying anything, every social media thing he’s done in this situation in the last couple weeks has just made things worse for him and AAA. It’d be great if he could clear this all up and explain AAA’s position but I suspect he’s just going to be digging a bigger hole.

Sexy Star last was Reina de Reinas champion in 2012, when she vacated the championship. It wasn’t explained on TV that it was due to pregnancy – they instead let her do a self serving interview talking about how she was the real champion no matter who else would hold the belt but she was giving it up for secret reasons. Sexy Star was last in AAA in February 2016. She had been having problems with the company for months, including bailing on a January taping claiming a neck injury from a car accident on the way to the show. (In a remarkable coincidence, Sexy Star’s good friend Keira happened to be available as a substitute with flashy new gear.) Sexy Star was scheduled to defend – and lose – the long dormant mixed tag titles in February because AAA had figured out she was losing and wanted to move them to Taya & Daga while they could. Sexy Star told her fans that she believed the mixed tag titles were actually trophies she was entitled to forever and had no idea she was required to defend them, and told AAA that she wasn’t coming to lose them because she had retired. (AAA instead had Pentagon defend the titles 1 vs 2, win to surprise everyone, and then declare the title vacant anyway. It was really dumb. They just brought the belts back a month ago.) Sexy Star has spent the time out of AAA claiming she was totally retired, then that was she retired in Mexico but wrestling in the US ($$$), then that she was not retired part of the time but willing to wrestle when she could fit in her boxing schedule. Sexy Star had one boxing match (and some private warm up matches) where she won against a tomato can while looking like a mid 30 year old women trying professional boxing for the first time in her life and not being a natural at it. She had recently said she was going to have her next match in August; it’s unclear if that’s still on.

There’s no reason for Sexy Star to ever agree to lose her title belt again if she doesn’t want to, because it’s clear AAA will let her get by with anything. She is above the law and has played this out masterfully. Sexy Star’s interviews should always be treated as playing a character – she appears to have been lying about focusing on boxing because she must’ve already agreed to go back to AAA – but it doesn’t matter, people bend to her will anyway.

I have no idea how this is going to work if/when all these disputes are part of the same Season 4 Lucha Underground locker room and I’m glad I don’t have deal with figuring it out. All that said, and all everyone’s said, what the Sexy Star situation shows is AAA will probably take back anyone if the circumstances are right for them and they think the person is an important enough deal. Sexy Star left the company on pretty bad terms, said not nice things about AAA, and got her spot back as strong as ever when she wanted it.

There were other matches here too! If we weren’t talking about Sexy Star and Taya, I think we’d be talking about whatever’s going on with the Lucha Underground rights in Mexico. It appears AAA can’t put the LU gimmicked wrestlers on their TV show for some reason. Marty the Moth came as Marty Casaus last year, but his two matches as Marty the Moth have not aired on TV this year (one made it on YouTube only) and he appears to be in a dark match spot too. (That probably means Killshot didn’t wear his Killshot mask because he was told not to.) The LU match from last year’s TripleMania did not air on TV either. It’s unclear why AAA would still be bringing in Marty if they can’t use him on TV, or why they wouldn’t just stick with calling him Marty Casaus, but there’s some rights issue going on.

The change in matches is the usual bit of changes, but I think the order is back to being in TV order again, with Psycho & Wagner wrestling twice to get them on both weeks of TV before TripleMania. Two thru four will air the first week, five thru seven will be the week prior to TripleMania. (EDIT: or this could be all wrong because I forgot to actually put the women’s match in the results.) There’s a startling lack of other matches being set up for TripleMania, but they seem to assume Psycho & Wagner will be the match and nothing else really matters.

Angelico is back! Angelico got nothing to do on his return, just a bystander to another feud. He doesn’t seem to have a big role for TripleMania.

The tecnicos going up 2-0 in the best of five is odd. OGT & Poder del Norte still teasing a match on TV is odd.

Other random AAA things

06/30 AAA TV Results (Puebla) – Reina de Reinas championship vacant


AAA TV (FRI) 06/30/2017 Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla [AAA]
1) Ashley, Dragón Solar, Némesis b Black Fury, Mini Rocker, Royer Boy
Dark match, La Llave de la Gloria match. Dragon Solar, Nemesis and Mini Rocker were not listed as advancing in La Llave de la Gloria prior. Mini Rocker was listed as Mini Espiritu by non-AAA sources and that appeared to be the gimmick he was doing. 
2) Australian Suicide b Bengala
Suicide wins the battle of ex-parnters.
3) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
This is now a best of five series for the trios title. Raptor got the pin on Soul Rocker, so the tecnicos lead 1-0.
4) Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly b Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth
Ricky Marvin returned to attack the OGT, but it cost the tecnicos the match. The tecnicos were upset at Ricky and did not accept his apology.
5) Máscara de Bronce b HernandezKevin Kross [briefcase]
Prior to this match, Johnny Mundo interrupted to ask why his bodyguard Kross was fighting for a title shot against him. (If there was answer, it wasn’t reported.) Mascara de Bronce won again, Kross took the briefcase from him afterwarwds anyway again
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. b El Mesías
Rematch of TripleMania XVII. Mesias was distracted by Pagano’s music.
7) Psycho Clown NF Pagano
Rematch of TripleMania XXIV. No finish when Wagner & Mesias attacked both men.
8) Johnny Mundo © b Texano Jr. [AAA HEAVY]
Mundo retained after Fantasma got involved. First defense

Air Date: 07/29 & 08/05.

And now a bunch of stuff on something that wasn’t even on the show.

This morning, after this show, AAA announced the Reina de Reinas championship is vacant. The AAA press release gives no reason but says the method of determining a new champion will be announced in upcoming days. On Facebook (and not referenced by AAA), Vampiro says he’s enforcing stricter rules around this title going forward where titles have to change hands on a pinfall or submission. Ayako passed out due to Taya’s chokehold, which is not a pinfall or submission, so Vampiro is ruling the title could not change hands and is taking it away from Taya. Vampiro says Taya will get a title shot later when she wanted it.

(Pause to note Vampiro’s explanation is really dumb. It’s dumb that passing out and the referee stopping the match is always a winning condition, it’s dumb in that it was street fight so a chokehold should be legal, it’s dumb that it would come three months after the title change when Vampiro was there and praising the match on screen, and it’s dumb in that Johnny Mundo and Mini Psycho Clown both won their championships by breaking the rules. It’s a storyline patch to cover up whatever they don’t want to talk about, but it’s a really ill thought out one that matches how ill thought out a lot of AAA is right now.)

Taya was scheduled to be on the 06/19 Nuevo Laredo taping, but missed it citing injuries from a recent car accident. She has not been on any future TV tapings, but was listed as defending the title on a 07/21 (non-TV) show in Tijuana against Faby Apache and Ayako Hamada. To the best of my knowledge, Taya has not wrestled since the injury. She could be back by that match, she could not, but it’s also not like AAA has been concerned about delivering scheduled matches.

It appeared Taya might have been informed of this last night, but says she was not told this was happening before AAA posted the announcement, has no idea why the decision was made, is annoyed the company isn’t supporting her as much as she’s supported them, and is playing around with the idea of going with The Crash guys. Taya is reacting not reacting like this is part of some storyline. This is a weekend where The Crash & AAA guys are going to be working together on a show, so it’s tough not to be a little suspicious AAA is doing some odd angle. It’s does seem more likely AAA is being weird, because AAA is always weird. It’s also a dangerous thing to do: they sort of need Johnny Mundo to still be around for TripleMania to lose all his singles titles and they seemed to have angered his fiance.

This show itself was the most normal wrestling promotion thing that’s happened in AAA for a while. All but one of the advertised matches happened. All the finishes generally made sense with the TripleMania matches in mind.

The Best of 5 trios series should conclude on TripleMania but, if they run one match per show, they’re only going to be on match 4 on that show. When this same crew did this bit on TripleMania, they’ve done two matches in one show along the way, and I suspect that’ll happen somewhere – maybe even on TripleMania itself.

The story thread I’m more interesting in seeing on TV is the Mascara de Bronce, because I have no feel about how it’s being played. He’s winning, but he’s losing the briefcase every time. Is he looking impressive while beating guys twice his size? Is he getting fluke banana peal wins and looking like a chump after? I don’t know. I have my guesses but it’s hard to tell from what AAA is saying.

Marvin’s disappearing act is being used as an AAA storyline, with La Parka pointing it out on Twitter. It’s another bit that hasn’t come across clear on results and maybe on TV, though it seems like they’ve cut down on doing vignettes to explain what’s going on. Which leaves us in the same situation as Taya, not really knowing what’s going on with AAA.

The next taping is two weeks from Sunday, July 16, in Monterrey.