08/28 AAA TV Results (TripleMania XXIV)

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AAA TV (SUN) 08/28/2016 Arena Ciudad de México, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [411Mania, AAA, Culticon, Kronosport, Medio Tiempo (3), Medio Tiempo (6), Medio Tiempo (7),Publimetro, R de Rudo, Sipse, SuperLuchas, Tape Machines are Rolling, Televisa, thecubsfan, Wrestling With Words, Yucatan]
1) Australian Suicide b La Parka, El Elegido, Taurus, Hernandez, Pimpinela Escarlata, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Daga, Súper Fly, Zorro, Mamba, Argenis [TripleMania Cup]
21:13. Moved to the first match. Rules were revealed to be the first four starting in the ring, someone new added every minute, over the top eliminations and the last two having a match. Argenis was the surprise luchador (though he wasn’t identified as such, and came off as a replacement for someone.) Mamba, Suicide, Daga & Parka started. Parka was the last one thrown out, with Suicide & Daga lasting the whole way to face each other. Suicide got the three count after his tornillo shooting star press, though Daga’s foot was on the ropes. Daga had dedicated the win to Perro Aguayo Jr. and attacked Suicide after he was given the win. The trophy broke in the process.
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache NC Averno & Chessman
Around 9:07, no official ending. Moved up a spot. El Apache was referee, helping the rudos early on but stopping them when Averno tried to hit Faby with a beer bottle (as Faby had done to him.) Rudos attacked Apache, preventing him from counting a Faby visual pin on Chessman. Averno hit Faby with a light tube in the back, causing her to bleed heavily from the forehead. El Apache made the save and called for the doctors. Ricky Marvin ran in and hit El Apache with a chair, causing him to bleed as well. The match had no finish or ending, and the best guess is no contest. Averno, Chessman, and Ricky Marvin are now known as OGT.
3) Aerostar & Drago b Angélico & Jack Evans © and Matt Cross & Paul London and Garza Jr. & Hijo del Fantasma [AAA TAG]
11:49. Garza Jr. replaced Fenix, who was never mentioned. Cross & London’s AAA debut. Drago pinned London to win the titles in the best match on the show. Aerostar & Drago are the 17th champions. Angelico & Jack fall on their first defense; this is the second time they’ve lost the titles without being pinned this year.
4) Johnny Mundo b Pentagón Jr. © [AAA LA]
15:05. Mundo defeated Pentagon Jr. when Taya fouled Pentagon. Taya & Mundo are now together in AAA. Mundo is the 7th champion. Pentagon Jr. falls on his first defense.
5) Dragón Azteca Jr., Prince Puma, Rey Misterio Jr. b Marty Martinez, Matanza, Mil Muertes
11:55. Only Vampiro (as special guest announcer) and Misterio were given entrances. Rey wore Perro Aguayo Jr.’s boots, and “Perrito” on the back of his gear. Misterio beat Marty with a frog splash.
6) Texano Jr. © b Dr. Wagner Jr., Cage [AAA HEAVY]
11:16. Moved up a spot. Texano small packaged Cage for the win. First defense. After the match, Hernandez, Mesias, Taya and Mundo helped Cage attack Texano. Mesias posed with the belt. Aerostar, Drago and Garza were all unsuccessful in making the save.
7) Psycho Clown b Pagano [hair, mask]
27:46. Extreme match, with chairs and tables and thumbtacks. Damian & Nicho ran in near the end, Dr. Wagner Jr. made the save, but fouled Psycho Clown. Pagano and Wagner lit a table on fire, then immediately were speared into the table by Psycho Clown. Psycho Clown pinned Pagano for the win. Tirantes was referee, played it fair most of the time, fast counted to help Pagano near the end, then counted the final pinfall without much of an issue. Monster & Murder Clown celebrated with Psycho Clown after the match. Wagner stopped the post match preceedings to challenge Psycho Clown to a mask match in one year’s time, at TripleMania XXV. Psycho Clown accepted, and AAA confirmed it as the plan for next year after the show. Pagano got his head (quickly) shaved in the ring.

Air Date: 09/10 & 09/17.

AAA did the scene at the end of the with the idea they would actually have Dr. Wagner Jr. versus Psycho Clown next year. This time last year, AAA would’ve thought they had Rey Misterio, Myzteziz and Alberto in this year’s main event. This time a year ago, Dr. Wagner was trying to get back into CMLL. A lot can change in a year, and neither AAA or Wagner himself are all that stable. It’s also a very expensive match, and AAA’s seemed to be having financial issues at times. Wagner/Psycho match would be a very big deal match (and one where Wagner would seem likely to finally lose his mask), but it’s a long way from happening.

AAA’s recap only mentions Garza Jr. as running in to save Texano after the title match. It could just be an accidental omission of Drago & Aerostar (the new tag team champions who were mostly laid out off-screen), but AAA’s got a big show in Monterrey in five weeks and it’s the time to do something with him if they’re going to do it. They seemed to point at Mundo/Garza, which justifies the title change in a short sided way.

The building looked full, though we didn’t get a lot of shots of the entire building. (We got lots of close-ups of fans instead.) Joaquin Roldan did say it was a sell out, which is a big success given the lack of star power on the show compared to past years.

Fenix is be done in AAA right now. There was no mention of him on the show, even though they were promoting him on the show as recently as the TV show the night before. He’s already taken dates on Heroes Inmortales weekend. The Pentagon/Fenix match is not happening in AAA. My impression is the problem between Fenix/AAA are not insurmountable (it’s not as bad as Flamita/AAA), but any Mexico lineups currently listed as having Fenix should be treated as false. (The only one I have is the 09/16 show in Ecatepec.) AAA has previously warned there wrestlers that they would lose their role in Lucha Underground if they leave AAA; this hasn’t seemed to apply to Sexy Star and it’ll be worth watching if it happens with Fenix.

(It’s weird that the Fenix & Fantasma team introduction was done in Toluca, the same place the Octagon Jr. character was introduced. Both started great and didn’t last long.)

I had heard Pentagon was also done, but he wrestled as scheduled. This was incorrect info, and I apologize for posting it.

El Cuadrilatero bemoans Wagner stealing the spotlight at the end of the show. If AAA’s going to continue to borrow layout ideas from the WWE model, they should probably take the “RAW after WrestleMania” formula and schedule a TV taping in Mexico City the day after TripleMania every year. There’s logistical reasons to do it – instead of giving away TripleMania on TV two weeks after it airs, it can be the end of the year repeat programming – but it’d also let them set up their new programs without squeezing them all into TripleMania. In this case, it might have flowed better if Wagner to get involved at TripleMania, but the big challenge was saved for the next day as to not overshadow the result of the main event. (Running TripleMania on Sunday makes this harder to do, but I think they could fill Naucalpan on a Monday night.)

Pagano thanked fans for their support. He listed Nicho & Damian as part of his group. Halloween wasn’t at the show, and I’m beginning to wonder if he just invited himself to the pilgrimage and isn’t in AAA any more.

+Lucha has interviews with Pagano and Psycho Clown following the main event.

Joe Lider’s bleeding heavily in the Mundo/Pentagon match was very random. Lider was a surprise wrestler in hardcore promotion NGX Saturday and bled a bunch, so it likely was the wounds from the previous night opening up really easily.

Aerostar & Drago winning the tag team titles was a genuine surprise, as was Daga & Suicide being in the finals of Copa TripleMania. The Aerostar/Drago bit was hurt when they were later used as disposable bodies for Team Trump to beat. My fear is they’re being set up as small guys for Hernandez and Cage to squash while winning the tag titles, my hope is Jack & Angelico get a rematch.

(The Team Trump sure seems like it has an expiration date of November, but AAA also seems to be aiming to carry it thru the rest of the year at least.)

Here’s the three video posts I put up about Matt Striker & Vampiro:

  • Matt Striker referring to a Pentagon tope con giro as “doing it for Bengahzi”
  • Matt Striker going off on either the audience for not liking the above, or on generally on people who question his political views on Twitter
  • Matt Striker & Vampiro entertaining themselves (and pretty much only themselves) during the Lucha Underground match.

The more I think about it, the more I believe Vampiro was kind of forced into doing announcing and didn’t really want any part of it. He absolutely acted like a person who did not want to be out there. (His actual role may have been agenting the Pagano/Psycho match, as it felt like LU matches.)

Matt Striker’s not going to change. The fault lies on AAA on bringing him back time after time. He’s gotten basically the same reviews every time, and AAA doesn’t seem to care all that much. Maybe AAA waiting to the last moment to announce Striker & Hugo was because they couldn’t find anyone else, or maybe it’s because they knew the reaction they’d get. All I know is when I get plenty of people telling me they switched to the Spanish commentators (who are not much better if you understand Spanish), then you’ve really defeated the purpose of having English commentary.

The reality is this is probably a dead issue for, since AAA’s not going to bother with an English feed for Heroes Inmortales and probably not Guerra de Titanes, if they’re even iPPVs.

A while after the show ended (though curiously not during the show), AAA announced participation on a multiple promotion show in Korakuen Hall on 10/26 called Star Battle Japan. It’s a home and home for the Lucha World Cup; many of the Japanese promotions who participated (Noah, Ouduo, Wave, Zero1) are listed on the show. Rey Mysterio, Pentagon Jr., Psycho Clown, Cage and Taya are pictured. In Japan, they’ve mentioned Akebono will wrestle. (He seems to be the entire Ouduo promotion, so he has to if they’re part of it.)

Note that Mysterio is an independent guy, and not an AAA exclusive. He’s working the next The Crash show, which will also have Rush on it. Working the Japan show doesn’t mean necessarily he’s in for more AAA (though it’s always nice to see him.)

The next taping is scheduled to be on 09/16. AAA’s been acting squirrely about that show on TV, but it is listed on the Hard Rock Riveria Maya’s site. The show after that is Heroes Inmortales, and both lineups may be out soon.

08/19 AAA TV Results (Veracruz)

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AAA TV (FRI) 08/19/2016 Auditorio Benito Juárez, Veracruz, Veracruz [AAA]
1) Anarquía & Tiburón b Hijo del Buitre & Squato
Dark match.
2) Gotita de Plata, Lanzeloth, Venum b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
Carta Brava Jr. returned after leaving in April.
3) El Apache, Lady Shani, Taya b Big Mami, Mary Apache, Niño Hamburguesa
Apache beat Mary
4) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala DQ Dave The Clown, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Súper Fly
Daga unmasked Suicide for the DQ.
5) Aerostar & Drago b Garza Jr. & Hijo del Fantasma and Daga & Joe Lider
Garza Jr. replaced Fantasma. Drago beat Lider.
6) Pentagón Jr. & Texano Jr. DQ El Mesías & Hernandez
Team Trump fouled and unmasked the tecnicos.
7) Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario, Pagano b Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown [cage]
Psycho Clown was bloodied and handcuffed to the cage as Pagano escaped. Pagano earned the chance to choose the referee for their match at Triplemania, and of course picked Tirantes.

Air Date: 08/27 & 09/03. Of note, this show was in the 6 sided ring, which hasn’t been seen a lot this year.

Not sure what happened to Fenix. AAA’s recap avoids mentioning anything.  Fenix did a Facebook Live while promoting a show in Dallas today and, after about 15:39 of Fenix promoting upcoming shows and kindly saying hi to various people, he acknowledges he missed both Veracruz and a previous show in Aguascalientes due to for majerue, apologizes, and moves right onto saying hi to Brian (Cage?). AAA knew enough in advance to have Garza Jr. in Veracruz. I presume Fenix is still working TripleMania, because it’s TripleMania, but I’d also assume we’d never be told about a change until someone else walks out in Fenix’s place. That was the case last night.

Carta Brava Jr. is one of the names who left earlier in the year and appears to be back. About a month after Carta Brava Jr. left, Goya Kong did an interview insisting she and her partner had actually not left AAA. Carta Brava Jr. didn’t get booked a lot on the indies and hasn’t been seen since June, so it’s possible they could’ve both made a quick u-turn and Carta’s been back training with AAA in hopes of getting another chance. He’s been very good in the openers in the past (and that match is much better for him being involved), but has been stuck in that position for years.

The main event will obviously air next week; I’d guess matches 3/5/7 air on that episode, and the others on the following show. They could used them as the start of Heroes Inmortales build, if they know the direction. Card could

  • Daga vs Australian Suicide, hair vs mask
  • Team Trump vs Mexico
  • Psycho Circus vs Los Fronterizos
  • Fantasma actually defends his title?
  • a Copa Antonio Pena?

This gets AAA around the short time to build, since it’s a lot of matches they’ve already teased (and matches I thought might be on TripleMania.) I mostly want Daga/Suicide to happen already.

Tirantes was the expected outcome of the main event. It’ll just be a question of AAA doing the spot where he reluctantly counts a Psycho Clown pin or where he gets knocked down and Piero runs into count, but it’s always going to be one of those two finishes

Next taping is TripleMania next Sunday.

07/29 AAA TV Results (Toluca)

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AAA TV (FRI) 07/29/2016 Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México [AAA]
1) Dinastía, Lanzeloth, Octagoncito b Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Histeria, Mini Psycho Clown
Lanzeloth moved to the tecnico side, replacing Mini Drago. Mini Psycho Clown replaced him as a rudo. Laneloth picked up his first direct win by beating Histeria.
2) El Elegido, Faby Apache, Mary Apache DQ Hijo de Pirata Morgan, La Hiedra, Súper Fly
Averno, Chessman and Ricky Marvin attacked the Apaches. El Apache ran out, but only to criticize Faby for her behavior and side with the men. He’ll be special referee for their tag match at TripleMania.
3) Fénix & Hijo del Fantasma b Angélico & Jack Evans
Fantasma & Fenix debuted as a team (Los Fantasmas de Fuego) and got their first win. Fantasma insisted he and Fenix are a permanent team of a tecnico & a rudo.
4) Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin DQ Argenis, Bengala, La Parka
Faby hit Avenro with a bottle for the DQ. Averno bled.
5) Aerostar, Drago, Texano Jr. b Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr.
Texano beat Lider via sit down powerbomb
6) Pagano b Psycho Clown [bull terrier]
Psycho Clown lost again. Bloody match.

Air Date: 08/13 & 08/20

Let’s update the non-LWC matches for Psycho Clown
04/18: L
04/29: W (by countout)
05/14: L
05/31: L
06/16: L
07/03: L (by countout)
07/08: L
07/17: L
07/29: L

Included in that run is three different singles losses to Pagano. Part of the issue is it’s so long between major shows, and everything stays the same between those shows.

I know El Apache is a rudo who’s gone against Faby in the past, but Chessman & Averno have to be fools to trust him to not side with his daughters. I think it’s probably a way to give either side an out for losing that match (but they could’ve done the same with Tirantes either.) It comes across so randomly, with no reason Apache got to make himself referee.

It’s hard to believe Fenix & Fantasma are going to remain a team when Fenix is still due a shot at Fantasma’s title, but perhaps they’ve forgotten. It seems like they forgot.

They’re off for 3 weeks, not taping again until 08/19 in Veracruz.

AAA announced Triplemanía XXIV (08/28) lineup; Pagano/Psycho, lots of LU appearances

AAA TV (SUN) 08/28/2016 Arena Ciudad de México, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) La Parka vs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 [TripleMania Cup]
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman
3) Angélico & Jack Evans © vs Matt Cross & Paul London and Aerostar & Drago and Fénix & Hijo del Fantasma [AAA TAG]
first defense
4) Pentagón Jr. © vs Johnny Mundo [AAA LA]
first defense
5) Marty Martinez, Matanza, Mil Muertes vs Dragón Azteca Jr., Prince Puma, Rey Misterio Jr.
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Texano Jr. © vs Cage [AAA HEAVY]
first defense
7) Pagano vs Psycho Clown [hair, mask]
Referee will be picked by winner of match on 08/19.

(Card may not be final; matches as mentioned on Twitter from people watching the press conference, the lineup hasn’t been officially posted as far as I can tell.)

Air Date: 08/28 (probably on local PPV and iPPV internationally), 09/10 & 09/17 on TV.

AAA held a press conference today to announce the lineup for their biggest show. (It was a surprise to us, but not to the press.) I was not around to watch it, but it’s still up on YouTube. AAA had previously formally announced the Pagano/Psycho, Mundo/Pentagon, and Averno/Chessman vs Apaches matches. Yet to air TV episodes set up the Wagner/Texano/Cage match. The other three matches were new today.

There’s quite a few foreigners, as six LU wrestlers (Marty, Matanza, Azteca, Puma, Cross/Havoc, London) appear in addition to the two regulars who might not be here without the connection (Mundo, Cage) to deepen the card. It’s a stronger on paper card for us because of their presence, though I’m not sure how much it’ll mean to the Mexican fans. Lucha Underground does not air in Mexico, only the hardest of international fans watch it, and most people have no idea who these guys are. That is not a guess. Dragon Azteca (or maybe Azteca Dragon Jr.) was a complete unknown to the press when he came in for the Lucha World Cup and had to explain he was Rey Horuz for people to know who he was. Same thing with Mil, but at least he and Matanza will have a distinctive look that makes it easy to get over. Marty should do well in that match, but he’s also been helped by lots of time on Lucha Underground to get the character over. Either AAA needs to do the same (when they don’t do vignettes for their own guys, and when most of Marty’s LU work includes non-person Sexy Star) or no one’s going to have any idea why he’s there. Marty’s probably just there to be the guy who gets pinned and I’m overthinking it, but it’s worth remembering the LU guys are really more a draw for an iPPV audience than the live crowd.

(And I guess it’s possible Marty’s spot might have been PJ Black’s spot if he didn’t take the Elite booking, since he fits in better, but who knows. Match should be great.)

The one person who will be a draw to everyone is Rey Misterio. It didn’t seem like he’d be back after he worked out his last required dates with the Lucha World Cup, given the reported issues with his contract and AAA’s breakup with Konnan. It didn’t make a lot of sense for AAA to use up their last contracted dates with Misterio on the LWC, but they must’ve been pretty sure they’d get him back for TripleMania and they did it. AAA’s hope was to be able to bring Rey back in from the big shows, and having him as the biggest star on the show will definitely help with this one.

Mesias never getting a TripleMania program makes a lot of sense if Mil Muerte’s is booked. It doesn’t seem like AAA announced anything but the luchadors, but there’s places where Catrina, Dario Cueto or Melissa Santos might fit in o the show too.

I feel like we’ve probably pounded the “Jack Evans hates multiman tag matches” joke into the ground, but the man just can’t escape them. Fenix & Fantasma, who are supposed to have a title match (and might get around to it in November), don’t quite make sense as a team but maybe there’s something happening in Toluca to explain it. Perhaps they’re the mystery team, or the foreigners are. It’s strange “Matt Cross” and not “Son of Havoc” is part of the four way tag match. Maybe that was a mistake that’ll be corrected later. Paul London was a agent for Lucha Underground Season 2 and came to Mexico for the Lucha World Cup in the same role. He might be helping out in that capacity again along with his match.

No one besides La Parka was announced for the TripleMania Cup, but AAA was weirdly specific in announcing 11 so they must’ve worked out the other 10 names (and worked out who’s instead working some 500 fan show in Aguascalientes the same day.) Parka is the favorite for all random trophies.

We don’t know who was left off until the rest of the Cup is announced, but there’s the obvious lack of the usual Relevos AAA opener at this point. (It could’ve just not been announced, an eight match wouldn’t be out of line. I don’t know if there’s a formal card being released today, but one hasn’t turned up yet.) The men and the exoticos might be included in the Cup battle royal, but that means no spot for the minis and no women working the show except for the Apaches. It’s inconceivable Taya would be left off a TripleMania. She’s got to be seconding someone, and perhaps that’ll play into the finish of the Mundo/Pentagon match.

The other notable omission is any TNA involvement, after their participation was strongly hinted at during the Lucha World Cup. I wonder if that’s a sign we’ll also not be getting English commentary, or if it’ll be Matt Striker back instead of Josh Mathews. Or something entirely different. (Update: AAA’s Twitter just said there will be English commentary for TripleMania. Details to come.)

I like this card much better than last year. Last year had matches which were obviously going to be horrendous (and were!) and matches where the participants were limited by absurd stipulations. The 4 way tag match will be great. Pentagon/Mundo will be great, at least up to the finish. The trios match will be great. The three way title match should be very good and possibly great. I’m rolling my eyes at the build up, but Apaches vs Chessman/Averno could actually be great depending on how they play it. There has never been a good lucha libre battle royal, but it’s 10 only minutes I’ll live. Pagano/Psycho will be in a style I do not like and not particularly well done, but the crowd will be into it so it’ll work OK. This is a card I’m looking forward to be seeing. TripleMania is missing a earth shaking, must see match, but it’s a strong card given what they’ve got available to them and I look forward to watch it.

08/19 AAA TV lineup (Veracruz)

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AAA TV (FRI) 08/19/2016 Auditorio Benito Juárez, Veracruz, Veracruz
1) Gotita de Plata, Lanzeloth, Venum vs ?, Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
2) Big Mami, Mary Apache, Niño Hamburguesa vs El Apache, Lady Shani, Taya
3) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Dave The Clown, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Súper Fly
4) ? & ?? vs Aerostar & Drago and Daga & Joe Lider
5) Pentagón Jr. & Texano Jr. vs El Mesías & Hernandez
6) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario, Pagano [cage]
winning team will choose the referee for the Psycho/Pagano match at TripleMania.

Air Date: 08/27 & 09/03 – one show airs the night before TripleMania, one the week after.

So, Tirantes will be refereeing the apuesta match at TripleMania, until he gets taken out and Piero runs down to make the count, or Tirantes will decided to count three for Psycho even though it makes no sense. Whatever happens, AAA’s always established the referee is the important part and this just continues that.

If anything, this lineup makes me think Psycho Clown might actually stand a chance of winning in Toluca, just so he gets one win to go along with his million losses. He’s not getting that win here. It’s actually a clever stipulation, because they can announce the card before this taping without giving away the result to this match.

Semimain is Pentagon & Texano facing the two Trump guys they won’t face at TripleMania. Mesias not having a sure spot for TripleMania is very odd; maybe he does get added to the heavyweight title match to make it a four way.

There’s a mystery team at the Toluca taping facing Jack & Angelico, so it’s probably the same two guys in this match. A four way between these three teams and the tag champs seems the most likely way to squeeze them onto the card. I have no idea who the team could be, AAA’s done nothing to talk up the opponents, and I’m scared to find out. Broken Clown and Rotten Clown might be free. (We’re missing TNA guys on TripleMania, maybe that’s the way in.)

Dave the Clown gets moved up to the tercera because he’s kind of tall. Be tall, everyone. AAA’s spent all year running in place with Venum and Gran Apache and can’t be bothered to book them in the same match even when they’re on the same show. (Venum is not tall. Neither is Mocho Cota Jr. or Soul Rocker, who would be so much more useful and definitely more deserving to be in the tercera than Dave the Clown.) So they’ll just cost each other their matches, and continue running in place. One of these weeks is going to be a lame duck show, airing the week after TripleMania but having taken place before it, and those would be the weeks perfect for matches which couldn’t ever make a big show. That’s never how it works in AAA though, and the Venum/Apache feud will go onto until they someone gets hurt and they just forget about it.

The mystery spot looks like a spot for a mini rudo; it’s odd it’s not one of the Mini Vipers, and makes feel like there’s a Facebook post I missed. I would not have high hopes for whoever’s in that spot.

Next taping is TripleMania. It looks like that’ll air in order, so the next normal taping might not be as long as until the 09/17 weekend.

07/17 AAA TV Results (Oaxaca) – Angelico & Jack win tag titles back

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AAA TV (SUN) 07/17/2016 Pista Los Laureles, Oaxaca, Oaxaca [AAA]
1) Big Mami, Dinastía, Pimpinela Escarlata b Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown
Mami got the win. Likely a dark/YouTube match.
2) Herodes Jr., Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mocho Cota Jr. b Argenis, Atomic Boy, Bengala
Atomic Boy replaced Suicide.
3) Daga & Súper Fly b Aerostar & Australian Suicide
Australian Suicide replaced Garza Jr. (double booked in Reynosa), which allowed Daga to walk off with his mask again.
4) Angélico & Jack Evans b Averno & Chessman © and Monsther Clown & Murder Clown [AAA TAG]
Averno & Chessman fall on their 4th defense, as Jack & Angelico win the titles back in their first challenge after vacating them due to Angelico’s injury. Mary Apache distracted Averno, setting up the Angelico crucifix powerbomb/630 splash
5) Brian Cage, El Mesías, Hernandez b Dr. Wagner Jr., La Parka, Psycho Clown
Wagner, Parka and Clown earlier agreed to work together to face the threat of Team Trump. Team Trump threatened them. The Mexico alliance wasn’t enough, Team Trump took the main event.

Air Date: 08/06.

Psycho Clown’s recent AAA TV record

LOSS 04/18 Leon
WIN! 04/29 Xalapa (but by countout due to Perros interference)
LOSS 05/14 Orizaba
LOSS 05/31 Pachuca
LOSS 06/16 Naucalpan
LOSS 07/03 Ecatepec
LOSS 07/08 Mexico City
LOSS 07/17 Oaxaca

This is a cheat; the Lucha World Cup stuff is removed, and Psycho Clown picked up a few wins on there. And I’m not sure this is a terrible thing; AAA viewers are trained to only pay attention to the main shows as meaningful outcomes and only the most obsessive people will remember that match in Arena Aficion, for instance. Pagano will probably beat Psycho Clown one more time in Toluca, and that’s probably the right call. It’s just definitely a predictable thing, AAA’s become very routine about the lead tecnicos losing all their matches to their big show rival before getting that win on the big show (or not.)

Mary Apache came all the way to Oaxaca (5-6 hour bus trip each way) just to walk to the ring for a minute or so. It worked, so I guess it wasn’t a completely wasted trip. Averno & Chessman as tag team champions is definitely arguable as a wasted trip, since we’re back to the people who could’ve just stayed champion (just as Fantasma did thru injury) and all we got out of it was Argenis & Australian Suicide not winning the title repeatedly in matches with awful finishes. I’d think AAA would argue they couldn’t have gotten to Chessman/Avenro vs Faby/Mary without the tag titles, and that still seems like it has a good chance of happening at TripleMania. (The original reason the Apaches wanted to face Chessman & Averno was to get the tag titles, and the Apaches should be bugging Jack & Angelico now, but I’m guessing that’s not the way it’s going.)

Would the Mexico City commission have allowed AAA to do a men versus women tag title match? I guess it doesn’t matter now, but it may be a factor in why they made the change before TripleMania rather after. Jack & Angelico are facing a mystery team in Toluca, which may indicate their TripleMania program. Otherwise, we know just about as much about that card as we did before this taping. All the announcements are going to come on Twitter or mentioned on TV, it seems.

AAA “show opening segment where the people in the main event talk” to the list of WWE tropes AAA’s borrowing lately. There’s new patterns, but they’re definitely patterns.

Garza Jr. probably main evented small Arena Coliseo Reynosa instead. That’s probably the better choice for him (and “choice” may be overstating it, he may have taken that one first), but it’s weird working a small arena in Reynosa is the better choice than appearing on AAA TV – though he really doesn’t have much of a role here.

Next taping is that 07/29 Toluca show, a week from this Friday, the last to air on TV prior to TripleMania.

07/17 AAA TV Lineup (Oaxaca)

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07/11 card
AAA TV (SUN) 07/17/2016 Pista Los Laureles, Oaxaca, Oaxaca
1) ?, Dinastía, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown
2) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Herodes Jr., Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mocho Cota Jr.
3) Pentagón Jr. vs Fénix
3) Daga & Súper Fly vs Aerostar & Garza Jr.
4) Averno & Chessman © vs Aerostar & Drago and Angélico & Jack Evans [AAA TAG]
4th defense
4) Averno & Chessman © vs Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Angélico & Jack Evans [AAA TAG]
4th defense
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., La Parka, Psycho Clown vs Brian Cage, El Mesías, Hernandez

Air Date: 08/06

07/11 update:

The big changes are in the middle of the card. Aerostar & Drago are pulled out of the title #1 contenders match, with Murder Clown & Monster Clown taking their place. Aerostar gets paired with Garza Jr. against Daga & Super Fly, with the last three all being added to the card to replace Fenix vs Pentagon.

I had been alerted a little while back not to get too excited for the Fenix/Pentagon match, so I assume now they were pulled off the card for a while and it was just announced now. (Remember, the original card was something shared early and not official.) I guess I can go back to annoying people to do that match again. I would assume Pentagon, Fenix and Drago are all booked somewhere else, maybe a US indie show I don’t have in the database.

That tag match might be the best chance for Garza Jr. to have a great match in AAA so far. It’s not going to be Fenix/Pentagon, but I hope they get to go for it.

She’s still listed as a mystery person on the poster, but the mystery luchadora is probably Big Mami.

Original Post (June 23)

KrisZ found this lineup earlier, and it fits the expectation of Oaxaca being a one week taping. It’s a pretty interesting week.

The big news for people who read this site in the tercera: Fenix versus Pentagon Jr. happened in Los Angeles, happened in London, happened in Tokyo, happened in Chicago, happened in Texas, was about to happen in New York City, probably happened in Arena Victoria or Arena Aficion some day long ago, and now it’s finally going to happen on an AAA TV show. This lack of this match was symbolic of AAA’s lack of creativity and unwilling to focus on any of it’s youngsters – they had plenty of chances to do that match over the last five years, and everyone else was/(is?) getting more out of AAA’s own wrestlers than AAA.

Alone, it’s cool that match finally gets to be shown to Mexican fans. The context is more interesting

Ecatepec: Pentagon Jr. vs Psycho Clown for the Latin American Championship, Fenix vs Daga vs Aerostar for a Cruiserweight Title shot
CDMX: Fenix vs Daga
Oaxaca: Fenix vs Pentagon Jr.

AAA carving out a spot for their young wrestlers to have spotlight singles matches is something people have asking for forever. It seems to be happening, at least for the moment. It’s not something  that’s going to pay dividends right away, but it’s something that needs to help these guys in the long term, and it should provide a lot better TV show.  Fenix is likely going to be the #1 contenders to the Cruiserweight title if Aerostar & Drago are challenging for the tag titles and Pentagon Jr. could be Latin American champion (though I’m skeptical that’ll happen.)

The other story on this show is Angelico & Jack returning. Aerostar & Drago should earn a titles shot in DF, but this is also the former tag team champions getting back together for the first time this year due to various injuries. It’s going to be great to have them back.

Main event is about what was expected for the Verano de Escandalo show, only with Psycho Clown in Texano’s spot. Second match could be good and suggests Herodes & Cota are in full time and not just for an odd one shot. The mystery woman in the opener is likely the same as in Mexico City. That opener probably isn’t airing – maybe a YouTube exclusive.

Next taping is 07/29 in Toluca, which will probably be the last TV taping before TripleMania. Based on the matches not being scheduled yet, it seems likely Texano/Wagner and Fantasma’s defense are currently scheduled for that show.  I don’t know if it’ll draw, but that alone sounds like a better card than last year.

 

07/08 AAA TV Results (CDMX)

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AAA TV (FRI) 07/08/2016 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, AAA, Kronosport]
1) Big Mami, Faby Apache, Mary Apache b La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Taya
Big Mami (indie Big Mama) debuted as the surprise luchador. She got the win.
2) Dave The Clown, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Súper Fly b Garza Jr., Niño Hamburguesa, Venum
Dave the Clown debuted as the surprise luchador. Apache distracted Venum.
3) Fénix b Daga
Very good match
4) Aerostar, Bengala, Drago b Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
Earlier, Averno & Chessman appeared as India Maria to mock the Apaches and insist they’re never getting a title shot. Sure enough, the Apaches music distracted Ricky Marvin into a loss.
5) Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario, Pagano COR Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown
Bestia 666 to help to interfere. Pagano beat Psycho Clown again, Pagano putting Psycho Clown thru a table on fire on the outside, and Psycho was unable to return. Pagano said this was the 5th time in a row he had beat Psycho Clown. He demanded a hair vs mask match at TripleMania. Psycho Clown didn’t respond.
6) El Mesías, Hernandez, Johnny Mundo b Hijo del Fantasma, Pentagón Jr., Texano
Hijo del Fantasma made his return as the surprise luchador. Mundo beat Pentagon and demanded a title match

Air Date: 07/23 & 07/30

AAA’s recap headlines this as a night of challenges. It was not a night of responses. It’s obvious Pagano/Psycho, Pentagon/Mundo and Averno/Chessman vs the Apaches are planned to occur at TripleMania, but none of those matches were agreed up on this show. We kind of figured most of those were happening already, so it was just a matter of the characters voicing the matches the announcers had already given away. It’s possible there’s more to come in some of those stories – Angelico/Jack or other teams being added to the tag match are a possibility. Still, in their last appearance in Mexico City and on a show that’ll air about a month before TripleMania, they could’ve started selling tickets to that show based on matches and opted to wait (probably for the less dramatic choice of announcing the sames matches via press release or NotiAAA segment.)

The surprise luchadors were definitely surprising. Everyone guess Fantasma, but no one guessed Big Mama, who does something not far off from Goya Kong’s character. She’ll get over, even in a secondary role like Shani & Hiedra. Dave the Clown is a more random choice. We’ve seen a lot of people jump to Elite from AAA, and he’s technically a rare jump the other way. Of course, Dave’s Elite match was a disaster, a match so horrendous that the normally mild mannered Guerrero Maya & Rey Cometa appeared to shoot unmask Dave at the end of the match. Dave was not used again. Dave’s appeared on AAA TV before, once as part of circus performers at ringside for a Psycho Circus TripleMania entrance, and once when he went into business for himself, jumping out of the crowd (in full gear) to hug Psycho Clown to try make his own storyline. There are literally 100 other luchadors who would be better pick for this spot than Dave – and maybe Dave wasn’t the pick. I don’t know him, but his history marks him as a guy who’s hanging around, hoping for an extra spot a lot, and maybe was a last second fill in for someone else (or maybe Bestia 666 balked at being in a match with opening card guys, since that was definitely an issue in his last AAA stint.) We’ll see if Dave’s used again going forward or if this was just a one off thing.

It’s strange how much AAA’s present booking mimics WWE rather than LU (more successful in creating stars) or even Pena era AAA (which always seems to bet the goal here.) People dressing up in silly outfits to mock their rivals and people losing simply because their rivals music is playing are very much WWE tropes, and not particularly beloved ones.

At least on this night, they did take the idea of “putting two good wrestlers in a match and letting them have a good match” from Lucha Underground. Fenix/Daga sounds like what we’d hope it would be. Konnan’s podcast (a couple paragraphs down) seemed to be trying to stir up trouble between Fenix and AAA, saying the Roldans don’t like Fenix and want to keep him down. He’s got two big wins in two shows for a guy they don’t like. We didn’t get many quality reports on the other matches, but at least that one seems worth checking out when it turns up. Not a lot about the attendance either; Marislea posted a photo talking about good attendance, but it was shot of all the lights being out while people held up cell phones, and that’s not the easiest way to judge a crowd.

Johnny Mundo may be playing a Trump supporter on screen, but confirms he’s very much not one in reality in an interview with Record. Johnny Mundo seems like a good guy.

Related: The latest Podcast Boom includes Konnan talking about Sexy Star, Ludxor and Psycho Clown. LigerFever has the translation in one two parts. The Pagano feud is sort of explained as AAA being stuck on finding heavyweight opponents for Psycho Clown. Uro Rocker was intended for that spot, but wasn’t good and hurt people. Konnan mentions AAA looking at a Brazilian wrestler for that feud but he didn’t do well. That would’ve been Xandao, who wrestled a dark match in Naucalpan right before Rey de Reyes. That may also explain why Pagano started feuding with Pentagon Jr. and was shifted over to Psycho Clown with no resolution – even AAA might have not been sold on Pagano being in that spot until he was around for a month. I’m still something less than sold about a guy who normally walks around bald putting up his hair as the main event of your biggest show of the year.

But, that appears to be the cards that we’ve been dealt. And so, this is what it looks like is happening for TripleMania right now

  • Psycho Clown putting up his mask against Pagano’s hair.
  • Texano Jr. defending the Heavyweight championship against either Dr. Wagner Jr. or Cage or both
  • Pentagon Jr. defending the Latin American championship against Johnny Mundo
  • Averno & Chessman defending the tag team championship against Faby Apache & Mary Apache
  • some match to get a whole lot more people on the card
  • maybe Hijo del Fantasma versus Fenix for the Cruiserweight championship
  • maybe some relevos AAA atomicos along the lines of Taya/Mini Abismo/Mamba/Apache vs Big Mami/Dinastia/Pimpi/Venom

Next taping is Sunday in Oaxaca, with the three way tag title match and Pentagon vs Fenix.

07/03 AAA TV Results (Ecatepec)

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AAA TV (SUN) 07/03/2016 Centro Civico Nueva Aragon, Ecatepec, Estado de México[+LuchaTV, AAA]
1) Atomic Boy, Gotita de Plata, Lanzeloth, Venum b Herodes Jr., Soul Rocker, Súper Fly, Tigre Cota
Venum beat Soul Rocker. Gran Apache wasn’t in the match, but didn’t let that stop him from continuing to attack Venum for no particular reason.
2) Argenis & Australian Suicide DQ Daga & Joe Lider
Los Fronterizos attacked the Perros, which somehow cost the Perros match by DQ.
3) Fénix b Drago, Aerostar [#1 Contenders, AAA CRUISER]
Moved up to the fourth. Aerostar was barely able to participate, left on a stretcher and apologized for his performance, saying he had an ankle injury. Fenix gets a shot at Fantasma at some point, but got attacked by Zorro after the match.
4) Bestia 666, Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario b Bengala, Garza Jr., La Parka
Dropped to the third match from the 5th. Bestia was the surprise rudo, making his return to the promotion in a win.
5) Brian Cage b Texano Jr., Dr. Wagner Jr.
Moved up to the fifth. Cage beat #1 contender Dr. Wagner and wants a title shot of his own.
6) Pentagón Jr. b Psycho Clown © [AAA LA]
To start the show, Psycho Clown came out to talk about his recent losses and Pentagon hit him with a chair. Pentagon is the new champ, Psycho falls on his second defense after Pagano attacked him and Pentagon used the Penta Driver for the win.

Air Date:  07/09 & 07/16 – give or take a week.

Pretty cool to see Pentagon Jr. win a championship, I have to say, though this one was in service of the Psycho/Pagano feud. This was the seventh non-tag (singles/three way) match Psycho Clown’s had this year. He’s lost five of them, and he’s won the time he won this title (where Wagner unmasked him after the match) and he won the LWC qualifying match. Psycho has to be winning in a big way at TripleMania at this point.

Cage getting into the title picture seems like a good use of him. Nice to see Bestia back, and I’m a little curious about the timing in ways I’m not allowed to see due to NDAs. Fenix winning the title shot was expected, though I don’t know why Zorro is still getting involved in there. I wonder if Aerostar has been dealing with this injury for a while; it’d explain what happened with the match length at the AAW show. I’m begging AAA to do one of those filler interview pieces with Apache to explain what’s supposed to be going on with his feud.

It looks like AAA filled the place. It’s not a big building, but AAA ran a lot around Mexico State this weekend – Arena Neza & Arena Lopez Mateos both got shows – and they still did fine.

AAA’s site is currently down – the domain renewal gets them every couple years – but it should be back soon. Their next show is Friday in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera.

07/29 AAA TV Lineup (Toluca)

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AAA TV (FRI) 07/29/2016 Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México
1) Dinastía, Mini Drago, Octagoncito vs Lanzeloth, Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Histeria
2) El Elegido, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, La Hiedra, Súper Fly
3) Angélico & Jack Evans vs ? & ??
4) Argenis, Bengala, La Parka vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
5) Aerostar, Drago, Texano Jr. vs Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr.
6) Psycho Clown vs Pagano [bull terrier]

Air Date: 08/20 & 08/27 – these dates are right, but everything else is wrong because they aired the Lucha World Cup. The TV chart has the correct info.

KrisZ found this one. He also found the unreleased Oaxaca card, so now we’re two tapings ahead of what’s officially been released. This is also essentially the last taping which will take place before TripleMania; there’s a spacer/lame duck TV taping scheduled for early August, but it won’t air until after the PPV.

The location of that last taping and TripleMania’s date were supposed to be released last week, but I didn’t see it unless I missed on the TV show. Perhaps this weekend instead, or maybe they’re holding it back for the Mexico City taping next Friday. TripleMania’s seems a solid bet for August 28, which means this show finishes airing a day before the PPV.

We can pair this bull terrier main event with Leo Riano’s column from Wednesday (also first found by KrisZ), where he mentions Psycho Clown versus Pagano in a mask vs hair match is likely taking place at TripleMania. Pagano has generally been a bald luchador, but has been growing out a red mohawk since he’s started with AAA. Pagano’s been completely protected in booking, beating Psycho Clown and Pentagon Jr. repeatedly in singles matches since March, which starts to make sense if a big loss was the destination all along. It’s also hard to argue Pagano’s not important enough to be in a big TripleMania, when Mascara 2000 Jr. just lost his mask in one not too many years ago. AAA seems to want to recreate the history of it’s Antonio Pena years, and Psycho getting a second big apuesta win in three years helps move him towards the tecnico fan friendly hero of AAA spot La Parka’s held for many years.

The issue is I really don’t like Pagano matches. I haven’t liked them in AAA. I haven’t liked them before he wasn’t in AAA. I haven’t liked them on video, I haven’t liked them when I saw him live. The highest he’s risen is “that’s not as bad as I thought it would be, but still.” I don’t like the style of matches he wrestles, but I also don’t think he’s all that good at the style of matches either. I know there are a group of people who love those style of matches, and I think the car crash stunt show should do OK in front of a TripleMania crowd, but it’s personally a turnoff for me (and I think it’s for other people too, or I wouldn’t be saying this – my happiness isn’t really important here.) It’s not for a lack of effort – the three way for Pachuca had guys working hard to throw themselves thru many pieces of furniture, but I was barely interested enough to keep my eyes on the screen. I don’t see Psycho/Pagano as something really entertaining, or something where I’m happy Psycho gets a win, but something I’m going to have to endure for a half hour. It’s the same way those CMLL Tuesday openers must be endured, only this match is going to be on one of the biggest shows of the year, instead of something else that might get that spotlight.

The positive way to look at this is it’s only going to be 1 of 6 or 7 or 8 matches at TripleMania, and it’s still probably going to be better than the worse match at last year’s TripleMania. And, if I don’t like it as much as I think I’m not going to like it, I could instead spend time on my true favorite pasttime: posting stupid things on Twitter. (Except if I go live, because the internet in Arena Ciudad de Mexico is so awful during a show.)

But what about the rest of the card? I don’t know. I do know that semimain seems really strange. It’s strange to see Texano teaming with Aerostar & Drago, but he’s slowly been moving to the tecnico side. It’s still strange to see him against the Perros del Mal – he’s been again the foreigners, and the Perros have otherwise been busy. Perhaps it’s just something to use up the bodies on the card, but it’s a little bit suspicious that Pentagon Jr. seems to be exiting the Pagano feud for a moment. AAA’s slower than we’d like with Pentagon, but they know enough to make sure he’s got something to do. Dr. Wagner Jr. is due a heavyweight title shot, but maybe this is Pentagon’s path to one of his own as well.

The rest of the card is a bit mysterious. There’s either angles coming on the tapings lead up to this, or they’ve just shuffled people around to not do much before TripleMania. Averno & Chessman are on the same card as Faby & Mary Apache, which probably should be trouble. The champs have to get by another title match first, but the Apaches challenging for the tag titles feels like it can be penclied into TripleMania given how much attention they’ve given to that feud. (I do wonder if the DF commission is going to be OK with that; the Pentagon/Hamada match seemed to be billed as an exhibition to get around those rules.) There’s no hints as to who Jack & Angelico face (if it’s not the Apaches themselves.)

Lanzeloth is bouncing back and forth between tecnico and rudo side, but it’s nice to have him around however we can get him. A minis title defense seems unlikely for TripleMania, but it’d be great to get one on the lame duck taping; that’s the best best way to use those.