AAA on Televisa: 2017-12-16 

#porraHahastary

Recapped: 12/21/2016

Matches: 

All matches were taped in Arena Xalapa on 12/02

Eslabón Perdido, Poseidón, Rey Infierno beat Cosmos, Kid Lobo, Samuray
(9:28, good, via thecubsfan)

Ángel Mortal Jr., Chicano, Pardux beat Angelikal, Fetiche, Hijo Del Vikingo 
(6:21, Chicano gutwrench powerbomb Angelikal, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Argenis, Estrella Divina, Faby Apache, Lady Shani beat Australian Suicide, Goya Kong, Hahastary, Mamba
(10:19, Argenis Canadian Destroyer Suicide, ok, Lucha Libre AAA)

Bengala & Big Mami beat La Hiedra & Villano III Jr.
(5:21, Big Mami splash Villano III Jr., below average, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened:

Kid Lobo in action

Early in the show, Big Mami is looking for Niño Hamburguesa when Hernandez stops her. Hernandez hits on Big Mami, wanting her to team with him instead. Big Mami pretends to be interested for a second before turning him down and continuing her search. Checking another room, she’s jumped from behind by Villano III Jr. He suffocates her with a towel while La Hiedra takes Big Mami’s blue mixed title belt. She hands it to Hernandez, who calls someone, implies he or they took out Hamburguesa too, and tells the mystery person that they have the belt. It’s unclear who he’s talking to, though Hernandez’ only known friend in the promotion is Mundo.

The 2v2 match is billed as Hiedra & Villano III Jr. vs Niño Hamburguesa & Big Mami for the mixed tag titles, and Niño Hamburguesa’s music plays for his team. Bengala shows up instead, explaining Niño Hamburguesa is not there and no one can find Big Mami. Bengala proposes a triangle match with him and the rudos. They say no, then attack Bengala anyway, and they blow the whistle to start the match.

After about four minutes, when the rudos finally have their acts together, there’s a split screen to Hernandez finding and waking Big Mami backstage. Mami jolts to life, and Hernandez ushers her towards the ring. Big Mami hurrying to the ring is the first thing to get a reaction. Even thought his was a three way match, she’s allowed to get involved. She quickly takes out the rudos, and most of the time in the match involves her slow climb to the the rope for the finishing splash on Villano III.

best air Vikingo got all night

Faby remembers she hates Hijo del Tirantes during this match, but it goes nowhere. Late in the match, Goya does her usual dive, but oddly onto Mamba, Hahastary and Divina, which leaves Suicide 1 on 3. He fights off Argenis with a backdrop off the top rope, and somehow moves just in time for Shani to give Faby a backcracker by mistake. Argenis still gets in a Destroy for the win.

Faby gets back up, spins Shani around, and punches in the face for the backcracker She almost goes after Argenis too when he gets involved, but walks out as the announcers remember they have a title match coming up. Shani sells the one punch like she needs medical treatment (while the doctor actually checks on Suicide, who later appeared to be goofing around.)

Fetiche is a masked Llave de la Gloria finalist, but one who was had only been seen in TripleMania matches (and he was in the bad one) to this point. About seven minutes into the opener, Mr. Aguila & Kahn-Del-Mal come to ringside. Fetiche quickly betrays Angelikal, crotching him on the ropes as he goes for a moonsault, and points to the Perros del Mal. They’ve helped Pardux up on the outside, and wave for Fetiche to join them. Angelikal recovers enough to stand up, but is Chicano grabs him from behind and finishes him. Fetiche and Parudx come back in to stomp Angelikal and Vikingo, and Angle Mortal and Chicano join in. It’s unclear who, or if everyone, is supposed to be with the Perros del Mal at this moment- Chicano looks happily surprised in a way where I keep expecting the Perros to attack him too, but the rudos just leave vaguely together.

I think this is Eslabon Perdido mimicking a freight train

Vampiro’s interview this week is with Hahastary. Hahastary talks about the significance of her name (she’s a warrior.) Vampiro, who ends up on talking just about as much as the guest does in giving a long pep speech at the end, tells her not to set any limits for how he she can go (not settling for just having made it to AAA) and that she can be a good role model for girls even while being a ruda. This didn’t push anything forward but it did give fans something to know about Hahastary.

While most of the big names do not appear in action on the show, it does start with promos from Texano, Dave, Fantasma and La Parka to talk about what happened with them in Juarez and build to them facing off at Guerra de Titanes. The Texano promo is reused for a Guerra de Titanes promo going into every break.

This is likely Goya Kong’s last TV appearance for the time being; she broke her right leg on a dive out of the ring on the earthqauke benefit show, in a clip shown and then shown again in slow motion as part of Noti AAA. An update with her at home appears to show she’s had four screws put in her legs. She talks about her condition and AAA helping her. A full highlight package of the Luchando del Mexico show is shown afterwards, as well as Marisela Pena announcing the entire ticket proceeds would go to repair schools. There’s also video of the AAA celebration of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

Thoughts:

this was the best spot of the night and I’m leaving it all the way down here, sorry Angelikal

There was no heat for the mixed tag that wasn’t, with everyone just totally confused as what to was going on. The story as currently told on TV doesn’t make much sense: Villano & Hiedra wanted the mixed tag titles before (nearly breaking up over not getting them), want the title match when they get to the ring but in the meantime have taken out Big Mami and given the belts to Hernandez as if they didn’t want them. Their motivations don’t make sense and they look foolish during the action. It feels like half the match is Villano III Jr. hitting la Hiedra by mistake to no reaction. This is a pattern on this show: maybe this will make sense later when we get part two or three of this story, but AAA has dropped too many stories to care about them. The match itself wasn’t much.

The opening trios wasn’t one of the stronger Llave matches Hijo del Vikingo had a bad day, messing up his first big spot and coming down knees first on poor Angel Mortal. Angelikal outshined him here easily. The finish was random and only works if it they go somewhere. I think I’m not as concerned about harming the name of Perros del Mal as most – they had all sort of random people in when they were running their own group – but I think most will feel differently. In the bigger picture, it’d be nice to have any sort of direction for these guys, but I’m not trusting AAA to remember this direction when they next show up on TV two months from now. Pardux, walking around in Strong Style gear, is an amusing pick for a replacement Perros del Mal – they used to have one those strong style guys! He didn’t seem to get to show much strong style in this match, though the rudos were good at throwing the técnicos high up in the air.

Suicide takes the worst of this cutter

The dark match was an unexpected bonus. I almost gave up on uploading it after having problems on the first try, but I’m glad I figured it out. These Xalapa regulars worked well together, with the rudos – especially Poseidon – coming off as really good bases for the técnicos. The técnico showcase match to start is really the highlights, it slows a bit down with the rudos in control, but the dives are fun too. It felt like a more complete match that most regular AAA matches.

The mixed match was a very average match, but – just like the opener – they at least had a direction coming out of it. Australian Suicide stood out more with comedy than the highspots, but there wasn’t much way to work his highspots here. Actually, the ring that stood out most was Suicide wearing “ADIOS” shorts in a year where a lot of people have said ADIOS to AAA. Hahastary doing the Aerostar like springboard reverse tope to the floor was unexpected and cool. I’ve always believed Mamba is a person with good fashion sense but the blue hair going on in this match may cause me to reevaluate everything.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-12-09 

Flecha NEgra

Recapped: 12/16/17

All matches were taped in Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua on 11/19/2017.

Matches: 

Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Pagano beat Marty The Moth, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
(8:16, Pagano Noa Noa Driver, Marty, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Hijo del Fantasma beat Rey Escorpión for the AAA Latin American Championship
(13:09, Phantom Driver, good, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Hernandez & Johnny Mundo vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr.
(17:33, Mundo Fin de Mundo Dr. Wagner, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened:

Escorpion helpful to move out of the way for Psycho

Announcers talk about Heranndez and Mundo being the new Gringos Locos in their match. End game of the main event has Hernandez puling Wagner out and giving him a shoulderbreaker on the floor. Mundo fouls Hijos, drops him with the moonsault drive, and pretty much whiffs on the Fin de Mundo but that’s the finish anyway.

Fantasma connects on the Flecha Negra about ten minutes in, after going for it earlier but Escorpión moving out of the way before he could. Fantasma gets back up on the apron, only for Texano to run out and hit him in the back of the head with the lasso. (Tirantes watches it, but he’s back to being evil this week.) Texano gives Fantasma the Texano Driver. Escorpión isn’t sure about it, but goes for and connect on the top rope legdrop, only for Fantasma to kick out. Tirantes holds Fantasma for an Escorpión lasso punch. Psycho Clown’s music starts to play and stops, distracting the fans but not the wrestlers, who must know that wasn’t his cue. Escorpion punches Tirantes by mistake. The music starts up again, and now Psycho Clown comes out. Psycho Cleans house, Fantasma gives Escorpión the Thrill of the Kill (called the Phantom Driver here), and Tirantes come back in to count a fair three count.

Security has a slow first step, so Pagano is mobbed by Juarez fans the moments he steps out on the entrance. Cuervo & Scoria have new music and a new look, so they’re not giving up yet. They’re also attacked by the Clowns (which explains why Pagano entered before them.) As always, Marty wears Casaus gear, the graphic lists him as Marty the Moth, and the announcers call him Marty the Shaman. The announcers do finally mention the Monster High nickname Vampiro has been using for this group for months (presented here as an Arturo Rivera idea.)

thought this was going to be horrible but it just turned out weird

After about five minutes, Dave the Clown wanders to ringside to help his friends by throwing a chair at Pagano. La Parka hobbles to ringside with music, and goes after Dave. They kind of disappear until the match is over. Pagano kneels in front of Parka and shakes his hands, which causes the announcers to scream “VAMPIRO” because of course.

We last saw Texano with the Latin American belt. Fantasma has it here, with the idea that Vampiro made Texano give it back off screen (and that AAA belatedly decided they couldn’t really have this title match unless Fantasma actually had the belt.)

Thoughts: 

Fantasma/Escorpion was one of the better AAA matches of the year, definitely among the best singles match. AAA still had to spend the last couple minutes of it making it clear that the matches we actually are supposed to want to see are Fantasma/Texano and Escorpión/Psycho and it took away from the finish here. I did like that they gave Fantasma a kickout on his own before Psycho made the save. The music cue being screwed up was amusing, as was Psycho obviously telling Escorpión to roll out of the corner so he could do his dive. Escorpión & Fantamsa built the action well on their own and it would’ve been better if they got to finish it on their own, but this match wasn’t the priority.

when you really don’t want to land on your face

The main event was slower paced than a usual AAA match. You can skip the first eight minutes without feeling like you missed anything, and then the next even minutes are the rudos slowly working over Hijo. It does work, in that the crowd gets loud for a moment when Papa tags in, but it’s a long time to get there and it doesn’t get that much interesting when they’re there. Hijo de Wagner was fine in his big chance, but didn’t really come across as a star. Hernandez taking Wagner’s cutter as a back bump was weird, and Mundo probably should’ve redone his finish because they AAA couldn’t hide the miss.

The trios match was a decent encounter to give the Juarez fans the Pagano they had come there to see. It seemed like they might be taking away from his spotlight with the loud La Parka run in, but Pagano still got the moment at the end. I was distracted by AAA seemingly changing camera angles during every move – Scoria’s thru the ropes tornillo is unwatchable, sadly. The match itself was just about the level you’d expect but with a far hotter crowd than usual. They might have waited until the rudos got a win to try to get over the Monster High nickname. Given this crew, it’s possible they’ve been trying to get that name over for months and this just happened to be the week they remembered to do it. They’re not detailed oriented.

Noti AAA includes luchadors singing Christmas songs at a charity event. They also had a meal with make a wish children. The Luchando Por Mexico event is hyped.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-12-02 

Super Fly moonsault

Recapped: 12/12/2017

All matches were taped at Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua on 11/19/2017 

Matches: 

Lady Shani beat Venus in a mask vs mask match
(7:32, backcracker, ok, via thecubsfan)

Faby Apache beat La Hiedra and Big Mami to earn a shot at AAA’s Reina de Reinas championship
(5:30, Faby German suplex La Hiedra, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno & Súper Fly beat Aerostar & Drago and Argenis & Bengala and Carta Brava Jr. & Tito Santana
(10:02, Averno pin Carta Brava, ok, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

La Parka beat Dave The Clown
(7:05, fujiwara armbar, bad, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

AAA action

Hijo del Tirantes, who’s been impartial on this show and all of them of late, helps out Dave during the main event. Dave sells the arm as if been ripped from it’s socket after the finish. Marty runs in after the fact to attack Parka. Suddenly, Dave’s arm is fine. They leave Parka laid out and take his boot.

Copetes is busy checking on everyone after some dives, so Chessman runs in and smacks Carta with a chain to give Averno the win. Somehow, Carta needs a stretcher after taking the chain to the face.

Vampiro has a sit down interview with Averno. Averno feels he’s at his best moment in his career and that OGT will be the best in 2018. Averno and Vampiro talk about Averno being part of the search for new talent. Vampiro also talks to Bengala. Vampiro asks about how he interrupts his version of Bengala, which closer than usual in acknowledging this isn’t the original guy. Bengala talks about trying to personalize the character to separate himself from all the other lucha cats. Vampiro asks what he’s needing to stick out, and Bengala is looking for a big rivalary. Vampiro asks if a feud or winning is more important; Bengala seems to note winning is the point of wrestling, but if you have a good rivalry, people are less concerned about you losing. Averno is the better talker of the two, but neither man had a lot relevant to say.

Noti AAA focused on AAA announcing their earthquake victim benefit show.

The mask match appeared only on the long version of the AAA show. Chari shots are apparently legal. Shani is apparently supposed to blade off the chair shot, but has some sort of problem. Venus takes her outside and hits here with the chair again, then Tirantes cuts Shani while supposedly checking on her (with Shani’s legs kicking around as it happens.). Shani doesn’t end up bleeding all that much, even with Venus attacking the cut. They later tease putting Shani on a stretcher for a knee injury and counting her out, but she gets off and comes back in before 20. Venus does give her name, but I can’t actually make it out.

Thoughts:

Venus spinning side slam

La Parka/Dave the Clown was as bad as expected. There are matches with more technical faults than this one, but only because they didn’t try anything at all in this match. Dave didn’t do anything. Parka couldn’t do anything. They had Tirantes going back to being a rudo just to help out the match, but what would’ve really helped him out was not doing the match. This felt a lot longer the seven minute it took because nothing much but occasional bad brawling took place. I’m unconvinced anything with Marty is going anywhere; this just felt like they needed a way to get him on the card after flying him in.

The four way tag match was all action and really good action at that, so I had no problem with it at all. It was pretty fast paced, maybe too fast to allow anything to develop and I don’t know that much sunk in with me, but I enjoyed watching it. The format also let them hide people a little better – I don’t think Bengala did all that much here, which makes sense given his one arm. Carta & Tito are really effective team. It’s too bad they have this nice giant crane camera and still couldn’t find a way to get Aerostar’s dive in the frame. (They did use it nicely for his entrance.) They did get Super Fly’s nice moonsault. This as good a match that’s come out of these four teams trios feud in a while.

The women’s match was fine for six minutes of action. Faby looked much better than the other two. The crowd enjoys Big Mami. I don’t know what happened on the Devil’s Wings almost going bad, but it did result in Faby slapping Hiedra in the back of the head. Hiedra got folded up nicely on the finish.

The mask match is the same story as the Lanzeloth/Suicide title match, where Suicide controlled most of the match and then was just suddenly pinned. Lanzeloth looked more impressive in that than this. I don’t think they did either women favors with doing the stretcher spot and the chair stuff; they were working overly hard to sell Venus was going to win, but no was going to buy it and it just made for a less entertaining match. Venus really didn’t come all that close to winning – her closest win is Shani being carried away for a knee injury, not trapping Shani in a knee attacking hold and Shani desperately reaching for the ropes – and I have no idea if this was just the most she could do. Shani could’ve used the help of a wildly seen mask win, but this didn’t feel like a big deal and it’s no loss not to make the big show. Still might have been worth cutting together 20 or 30 seconds as highlight, if only to help fill time on the rest of the show (which seemed to be stretching.)

Faby German suplex

AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-25 

starting to concerned Super Fly has a death wish

Recapped: 12/08/2017

All matches were taped in Auditorio Instituto Queretano San Javier, Querétaro, Querétaro on 11/03/2017. There was a dark match I wasn’t interested in watching.

Matches: 

Dr. Wagner Jr. beat PaganoHernandez, and Mr. Águila to earn a shot at the AAA World Heavyweight Championship at Guerra de Titanes
(7:31, Wagner flapjack Hernandez, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly © defeated Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker vs  for the AAA World Trios Championship
(10:13, Averno Devi’s Wings Carta Brava, ok,
Lucha Libre AAA)

Rey Escorpión beat Texano Jr., Psycho Clown to become #1 contender for the AAA Latin American Championship
(7:23, Rey Escorpión foul Psycho Clown, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

no

Psycho enters last, to make it easier for both rudos to attack him as he’s parading around the ring. As with every two rudos on one técnico match ever, Texano & Escorpión get along until it comes time to decide who wins. Psycho gets the advantage when the bullrope spot goes wrong. The match magically turns into a one on one from there.

Finishes sees Escorpión pull Tirantes away after Texano’s hit his finish on Psycho, then circle around the ring to sneak in and foul Psycho as Tirantes looks outside the ring for no reason. Texano throws Escorpión out and covers Psycho for the win. Arturo Rivera says Escorpión is now the challenger for the cruiserweight title, and at least Jesus Zuniga immediately corrects him on that.

Psycho attacks Escorpión the ramp and dives onto him into the crowd, which the cameras struggle to catch – Psycho dives into nothingness. Texano stats to cut a promo in the ring when Fantasma’s music interrupts, and Texano caught off guard by Fantamsa coming thru the crowd to attack him. Tirantes tops Fantasma from using a chair in the attack for some reason, allowing Texano to grab the title and get away.

OGT come out first, get some chairs, and sit waiting for Poder del Norte to come to the ring. Poder del Norte decide to charge the ring. Averno & Chessman kick them, while Chessman just grabs his chair and hits Mocho Cota Jr. with it.

this was dumb when Mesias & Vampiro did it

Late in the match, Carta Brava sends Chessman into referee Copetes to take him out. Mascara de Bronce and Argenis run into attack for no obvious reason, taking out both team. Bengala watches from the stage, then sneaks in to face Cota. Cota turns the tables on him, then runs into Avenro Devils Wings. Super Fly sends Copetes back in the ring to count three.

Poder del Norte go to the back while OGT celebrate their win. After a couple moments, there’s a cut backstage where Argenis, Bengala and Mascara de Bronce are already down and Poder del Norte are standing near them with chairs. Raptor, Aerostar and Drago show up as they cut in, and both sides throw chairs back and forth.

This opener is Mr. Aguila’s surprise return to the promotion (after a cameo at TripleMania.) He’s a replacement for Marty and wrestling as Perros del Mal rep. The match is originally a tag match, but Vampiro makes a four way match before the start, where the winner will get a title shot at Johnny Mundo in 2018 at Guerra de Titanes. They still work it like a tag match, with guys standing on the apron waiting for tags instead of all four people in the ring at the same time.

Hernandez is close beating Dr. Wagner when Hijo del Dr. Wagner runs in and attacks Hernandez from behind. Tirantes looks away from the ring for no particular reason. Wagner wins with a flapjack this time. Mr. Aguila and Pagano get up to fight on the stage, and Aguila throws him off into rows of empty chairs. He gets back up to the ramp after some time, and the Wagners attack him for no real reason. I have no idea.

Polvo de Estrellas, who has not had a televised AAA match since October 25, 2014, is a celebrity acting in a play. Marisela Pena, OGT and the Traidor Clowns are shown coming to the play. This goes a minute. A segment hyping the Xalapa taping goes about 20 seconds.

Thoughts: 

Psycho dive into nothingness

Three way matches are really tough to make interesting and this didn’t have anything to offer that wasn’t boring the last five times I saw it. Escorpión was the most interesting, but barely soon, and this just seemed to be killing time for that finish. Texano, who thinks he should have the Latin American title, seems like he should be much more upset about being cheated his title chance they he seemed here. The post match made the statement that the match was pointless – Fantasma/Texano is the match that matters, not Escorpion getting a title shot. It was at least good that they ended the show with something beside a Wagner or Psycho feud.

I kinda of liked the trios title match up until the overbooked finish. I guess they didn’t want Poder del Norte to lose again clean, but then they probably should’ve just not booked this match, instead of booking people to run in for not any explained reason. (The técnicos were attacking both teams indiscriminately. It was just an excuse.) Poder del Norte seemed very into this match and showed a lot of energy thru out, and the brawling feel of this match was a nice counter point to last week’s técnico/técnico match. I wish they could’ve aired the same week to better draw out that comparison. One thing I’ve noticed is it seems easier to spot the tropes that are way over done from the outside than for the guys in the match. The stacked up superplex is my current pet peeve, but I’m sure the triple pin attempt by Poder del Norte on big moves following it was supposed to be a climatic near fall. Only, the fans barely reacted, because these matches have taught them they’re never ending with three guys getting pinned at the same time. There’s a lot of stuff used for two count reactions like that which don’t get them because they’ve been used only for those reactions too many times, and I don’t think the crowd ever had a moment where they thought the champs were going to retain their titles.

At least the four way was short. All of Pagano’s moves look so ugly. He and Aguila have a bad looking sequence about four minutes in which makes me wonder what I’m doing. I know Pagano must be over because no one this bad who’s not related to someone would be pushed as hard as he is otherwise. I think Mr. Aguila is a good addition but he didn’t really show anything here that would prove it, and the hug plunge thru table was not so great. Hernandez did a great superman dive, which they showed from as far way as possible. Thinking about all the people AAA didn’t go with as hard as they could’ve and then watching Hijo de Dr. Wagner get a big push is hard.

ok

AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-18 

Suicide tornillo

Recapped: 12/04/2017

Matches: 

Ángel Mortal Jr., Australian Suicide, Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr. beat Angelikal, Chicano, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzelot  
(6:03, Australian Suicide layout frontcracker Chicano, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Aerostar, Drago, Raptor beat Argenis, Bengala, Máscara de Bronce
(6:06, Drago flipping DDT Mascara de Bronce, good, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Ashley, Hahastary, La Hiedra beat Big Mami, Faby Apache, Lady Shani 
(8:53, Hiedra powerbomb Faby, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA

Lanzelot © vs Australian Suicide for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship
(10:40, bodyscissors cradle, good, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Thoughts: 

Bronce into the crowd

The episode is centered around an Australian Suicide/Lanzeloth cruiserweight title match. The layout of AAA show stayed the same (as it’s stayed for seemingly forever), but it seems like an attempt to tell a story from beginning to end in one episode, which definitely is different.

Prior to the opening tag match, Suicide interrupts Lanzeloth’s attempt at a generic promo to demand a title shot tonight if his team beats Lanzeloth’s team in the opener. Lanzeloth accepts, though adds on that Suicide will not get another shot if he loses this one.

Vampiro introduced a new sit down interview segment with Australian Suicide as new guest. (This felt like an attempt to recreate the Lucha Underground first season Vamprio sit down interviews.) They talk in English, subtitled in Spanish. Suicide talks about being rained in Australia but wanting to come to Mexico to be the best. He says AAA told him to put on the mask and how to act when he came to the group, but what we’re seeing now is the real him. He argues that he would be a better world champion than Lanzeloth, because Lanzeloth only wrestles in Mexico and Suicide’s wrestled around the world.

The title match is built around a knee injury. It’s nothing Suicide actively does, but instead caused when Lanzeloth flips to the floor. The injury comes and goes during the match. Lanzeloth catches Suicide with a cradle, against the momentum of the match that that moment.

Suicide tries a suplex, it doesn’t work for long

There are other stories on the show. The intro to the show has a (unlabeled) clip from the July 15th episode of this show, where OGT stormed Poder del Norte’s locker room to demand a trios title shot after Santana & Brava lost their masks. Neither team has anything to do on this show, but Poder del Norte come out post match to protest the existence of the tecnicos/tecnicos match, and OGT come out to attack them. It turns into a 12 man brawl.

The women’s match had Shani take out both Hahastary & Ashley with a dive, leaving the other three women in the ring. As Faby went up for a moonsault onto Hiedra, Villano III Jr. ran in (right in front of the ref, no DQ) and dropkicked Big Mami out of the ring. Hiedra pulled Faby off the ropes into a powerbomb for the win. Even though the one and only time we saw Hiedra & Villano III Jr. together ended with them breaking up, it appears they’re still together.

Angelikal spun into a headscissors

Texano explains that the fans taunting him are as dumb as the dummies he’s found. He’s the rightful champion, and the better luchador than Hijo del Fantasma. Texano gets into an argument with a dummy he think is calling him a liar (with the voice helpfully supplied by Zuniga) and demands his trophy.

They push the next day’s Juarez taping during the show, including Wagner looking for revenge on Mundo for faking the DQ in their title match.

There is no story to Chicano and Ashley being on different sides than usual. Ashley is probably a numbers thing, Chicano might just be the guy they wanted to take Suicide’s finish.

Review:

The atomicos was exciting early, but increasingly sloppy as it went by, with more missed spots than you’d want for something that was this short. The Tigger Boy had a rough match, though I’m not sure if it’s him or he just gets stuck with the tricky stuff. The big move firework spot was done really fast, though ending with the reverse huracanrana that didn’t go well was a downer (and Angelikal just roll out without getting hit after it didn’t make a lot sense.) The shooting star press breakups looked amazing, but also looked like they were landing on people in awkward and pinfall fashion. Vikingo is the most eyecatching of the eight guys here. Angel Mortal catching Hijo del del Vikingo was impressive but takes a little too long to get to the powerbomb, and the camera losses them for part of it.

The men’s trios match is the superior of the two highspot tag matches. There’s nits to be picked, but it’s a lot more solid match while keeping the excitement level up. Even beyond the moves themselves, stuff like breaking up every cradle with another cradle was good. Argenis throwing people around as counter to all the flying moves gave the match something different. The biggest problem is this just wasn’t long enough, and using the time for an OGT/Poder del Norte promo was not the a less exciting use of time.

these didn’t seem like the safest pin breakups

The women’s match was alright, with the usual flaws. Big Mami has poor timing at times, but I was impressed that at least one of the two headscissors Hahastary tried with her worked. It really is asking too much to expect those spots to go right for her, and the double boot spot with Faby later on was similarly comedic. It’s like AAA or Big Mami can’t bring themselves to admit that there’s some stuff the other women do that she does not do as well. Hiedra appears to be 90% cleavage at this point. Ashley shows no hidden ruda characteristics – she waves to the crowd after every move – but she and Hahastary did not feel out of place here. Hahastary seemed to work well with both Shani & Faby in limited time.

There was some good action here, though the story took away from the potential of the match. Lanzelot sold his knee fine and this audience is more willing to buy into that story, but it hurts the concept when he has to suddenly feel a lot better so he can pull off his offense or get in position for Suicide. They at least had Suicide keep hammering on the bad knee, but these guys just doing big spots for ten minutes would’ve been fine with me. The finish, getting beat by a weak cradle while being in control, makes Suicide look like a chump who shouldn’t be getting any more shots, but they could’ve given Lanzeloth a stronger win to establish him. He needs to come across as the best cruiserweight after not sticking up out really into this leadup, and he’s coming off like a fluke. Suicide looked like the better guy most of the match, with his tornillo coming off really good. The only way he’s not getting a shot is if he’s leaving AAA too, but I hope he gets more things to do in between his inevitable inclusion in a multiman match.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-11

Wagner off the bleachers

Recapped: 11/29/2017

All matches were taped from Palenque de la Feria, Metepec, Estado de México on 10/20/2017 

Matches: 

Aerostar, Drago, Raptor beat Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
(8:47, excessive violence DQ, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Marty Martinez & Texano beat Hijo del Fantasma & Pagano
(12:19, Marty pinned Fantasma, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown beat Hernandez & Rey Escorpión
(18:37, Wagner Samoan drop Hernandez, ok, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

tecnico triple dive

Everyone starts fighting before the whistle in the main event, while Zuniga announces Vampiro has now made this falls count anywhere. There’s no reaction to the stip. Wagner and Psycho have surprisingly little problem with each other considering. They do some pinfall attempts in a walkway later in the match to play to the stip, but it’s not taken all that seriously and they still finish in the ring. Wagner kind of no sells a clothesline before he beats Hernandez with a Samoan Drop.

Marty is no longer wearing facepaint, but has part of his beard dyed white. He’s wearing a Marty the Moth shirt and his video says Mart the Moth. His gear says Casuas and he’s announced as Marty the Shaman. Texano still has the Copa Pena and title belt that belongs to Fantasma. Texano is still angry about Vampiro taking him out of that match and feels he’s the rightful champion. Texano’s in the middle of telling the crowd they should only be cheering him when Fantasma dives on him. Fantasma takes the belt thru the crowd to where the announcers are stationed, and leaves it there for safekeeping. Later in the match, after he’s been hit by Fantamsa’s tope, Texano walks to the announce booth and takes the title back. Texano eventually hits Fantasma with the belt and pulls Marty on top for the win. He leaves with the belt.

Noti AAA has Vampiro and a doctor talking with Mesias about his knee injury. They blame the Pagano bat shot to the knee that ended the match at TripleMania for the injury (which would seem to only explain one of the two knees, and seemed to actually hit his thigh, but I’m not a doctor.)

The New Ref is down for what seems like forever after taking a kick to the chest from Averno. OGT manage to hit Aerostar with a chair on a dive, unmask Drago, and hit a chair into a chair into Raptor’s knee over a dozen times. Security comes in the ring before the referee comes up and breaks up the match, though the referee (Negro Rosas) does get up and call the DQ. A highlight is a security guy visibly telling Averno to slap him a couple times before Averno does.

Thoughts: 

a positive GIF of Pagano every so often to keep you off guard

The main event was hurt a bit by being the third match done in the same style, and not being done in a particularly interesting way. The crowd reacts to the spots they wrestlers want to them to react to, and generally how they’d like to react, but it comes across as nothing special on TV.

The Fantasma/Texano match focused on getting people into that issue, but come off too long and not that interesting in between the angles. Marty & Pagano didn’t really have any chemistry. Pagano’s selling is so bad. He looks like he’s bored when he’s taking German suplexes from Marty here, and just disinterestedly move from spot to spot. To be fair, I was just as bored with this match at times. Marty took a bump from Pagano throwing a drink at him, which as good a way as any to waste time while the attention was on Fantasma & Texano. Crowd got into those two but I didn’t think the action was all that special. This is another finish that doesn’t make much sense with the story they’re telling: Texano is upset about people thinking Fantasma is the rightful champ, so why is he passing off a free pin on his hated rival to Marty? Probably because none of this matters.

The trios match was all about putting OGT strong over as rudos. It was successful at that, even though it wasn’t clear why it was being done – if these guys aren’t OGT’s next técnico opponents, it’s unclear who would be. If they are, the other matches might be better: the rudos took most of this and the técnicos barely got to do anything at the end. Not really sure why they did a ref bump when the match is ending in DQ anyway. The finish came off as if was an injury angle for Raptor, only Raptor was back on the next TV taping as healthy as ever. Something got lost.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-28 

it’s in here, somewhere

Recapped: 10/30/2017

I’m watching these shows with the hope that maybe the action will turn out to be better than described in the results. Unfortuantely, this was a show that was worse than expected. Cage matches and battle royals in lucha libre remain consistently terrible, and the singles match had a terrible finish telegraphed from the opening. AAA best matches are the ones with the least booking to them, because their storytelling is usually badly executed and detracts from everything they’ve done in the match. Nothing is going to change.

The show starts with the roster coming out for a Marisela Pena speech remembering Antonio Pena.

Noti AAA airs AAA wrestlers being part of a march to remember the victims of the September earthquakes. We also see the annual Dia de Muertos offering, with pictures of people who’ve passed away.

Hijo del Fantasma defeated La ParkaRey EscorpiónPsycho ClownJohnny Mundo ©HernandezPsicosis IIMambaMurder ClownDark CuervoMonsther ClownDark ScoriaEstrella DivinaHisteria IIMarty MartinezPimpinela EscarlataDave The Clown to win the AAA Latin American Championship and the Copa Antonio Pena
(21:53, below average, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

01:50 Hijo del Fantasma enters
01:51 Pimpinela Escarlata thrown out (by Dave the Clown)
03:19 Hernandez enters
04:34 Estrella Divina enters
05:35 Dave The Clown thrown out (Psycho Clown)
05:57 Monster Clown & Murder Clown (Psycho Clown)
07:10 Johnny Mundo enters (last enter)
07:55 Monster Clown out (Murder Clown)
08:08 Murder Clown & La Parka out (Cuervo & Scoria)
09:40 Psycho Clown out (Rey Escorpion)
10:46 Estrella Divina out (Mamba)
11:52 Rey Escorpion out (Psycho Clown)
12:31 Mamba out (Fatnasma)
13:04 Scoria out (Histeria & Psicosis)
13:31 Histeria out (Cuervo)
13:41 Psicosis out (Cuervo)
14:24 Cuervo out (Johnny Mundo)
15:44 Hernandez out (Marty)
17:06 Marty out (Fantasma)
21:53 Johnny Mundo pinned (Hijo del Fantasma Thrilled of the Hunt)


What Happened:

DAVE

Prior to the show, announcers Arturo and Jesus are talking about the show. Arturo is sitting in a van for some reason. Texano comes up to say hello and Arturo says he hopes Texano is going to win Copa Antonio Pena. Vampiro happens to stop by, and explains Texano is not going to win because he’s been suspended. Texano is confused, and Vampiro says it was for threatening Fantasma on the last taping, you can’t threaten a member of the commission. You could’ve told Texano this before he came all the way to San Luis Potosi, Vampiro!

The match started with 11 people in the ring, but the last seven people entered royal rumble style. It was supposed to be one minute intervals, but they screwed up the first one. Monster & Murder entered together for no reason. Johnny Mundo entered to Texano’s video.

Psycho Clown pulled Rey Escorpión right in front of Tirantes (though behind Copetes, who was in the ring for no real reason.) Escorpión pulled Psycho Clown off the apron to eliminate him, then went back in, and Tirantes let him continue. Later, Psycho pulled down the middle rope and Escorpión went thru, which apparently eliminated him anyway.

Mundo, Marty and Hernandez briefly worked along against Fantasma at the end, until Marty eliminated Hernandez and Fantasma eliminated Marty. Mundo & Fantasma went to a pinfall, with Fantasma winning. Fantasma got the cup for winning, and the title belt. Texano came out of the crowd to attack Fantasma, teases breaking the trophy, but instead takes it, the mask, and the title for himself. Even though Texano was suspended, there’s no attempt by anyone to stop him. You’d think Vampiro would be involved since he specifically didn’t want Texano to have the title tonight and Texano ended up with the title, but it’s treated as no big deal.

Fantasma tope

Review: [below average] The three minute Johnny Mundo/Hijo del Fantasma match at the end was pretty good. Fantasma worked much of the rest of the match and seemed tired, but it held together long enough and the crowd was pleased with the outcome. That was good. The rest was garbage. AAA only knows how to do royal rumbles one way, very badly. I can’t even explain why this was a Royal Rumble: 11 people were in the ring to start with, and only 6 more people came out. More people would’ve gotten in the way, but most of the match was people standing around and doing nothing while other people were using the center of the ring, so it would’ve fit in. The rumble section had a lot of stuff that looked bad and just didn’t make sense – I’m sure there was a plan out there where the Escorpión/Psycho stuff made sense, but it was executed laughably bad – and the match was more bad comedy than anything. Dave the Clown messing up whatever Psycho Clown was supposed to do with Hernandez so he could spear him instead was comedy. Everyone popping up to take a bump for Murder and Monster was comedy. Murder eliminating Monster after all that was comedy. Everyone deciding to do superplexes, pulling people inside the ring in a battle royal, was bad comedy. It’s not just this was bad, but they also didn’t seem to learn much from the mess that was the Copa TripleMania. They never really learn.

Johnny Mundo © defeated Rey Wagner  for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship
(13:02, disqualification for faked chair shot, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

What Happened: Tirantes has a speech saying any foul or object usage will be a DQ and a title change if Mundo loses. Wagner, who’s using a chair in just about every match, is really thrilled about this. Hernandez is Johnny’s second; he wrestled in a shirt for his match but not here.

Hernandez pulls Tirantes out; after all Tirantes said about things being a DQ, this is not. Hijo de Wagner and Hernandez some how sandwich Tirantes between them, which knocks Tirantes dead. Hernandez stires to take out Hijo de Wagner, but Hijo de Wagner hits him with a chair. Johnny Mundo fouls Wagner Jr and drops him with a Moonlight Drive, then flies out of the ring with a pescado out onto Hijo Wagner. Mundo grabs the chair and hits Hijo Wagner, then throws him in to rips his mask. Mundo hits both Wagners with a chair again. Announcers wonder why another referee isn’t coming on as Mundo kills more time. Hijo de Wagner bleeds and takes another chair shot. Mundo stalls and stalls and then throws the chair to Wagner for no reason. Tirantes gets up at that moment (maybe a moment late?) and sees Wagner with the chair. Wagner never swings the chair, but that’s a DQ. There’s money thrown in the ring, but I tend to wonder if that’s less as appreciation for the match and more objects aimed at the performances – Mundo gets ducked by a couple of cups.

Review: [good] The first eight minutes of the Wagner/Mundo match were a lot of fun. Wagner was working very hard and he and Mundo had more chemistry than you’d expect. It didn’t go deeper than each man doing their signature spots, but I’d take that over most AAA matches. It de-evolved into silliness as soon as Hernandez pulled out Tirantes. This is one of those finishes where the concept is the fans will be upset with the heel for cheating, but I believe the fans end up being upset with the referee and the promotion for the silliness. Hijo del Tirantes sold being dead off a slight impact for about three minutes, and then got up perfectly fine the moment the story required him to be fine. Maybe he’s turned heel again, it’s hard to tell. At any rate, the finishes up and down on Heroes Inmortales are completely sabotaging Vampiro’s role as guy laying down the law. Mundo out smarted him, Texano outsmarted, OGT & Poder del Norte outsmarted him for most of the show. They’ve switched from Vampiro being the ultimate hero to Vamprio being off stage while all his plans backfire. Neither is particularly good.

I like Mundo’s knee, both matches he did it

Tito Santana loses a domed cage match and his hair, in a match also with ArgenisLanzelothRicky Marvin, Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly, Mocho Cota Jr.Carta Brava Jr., Raptor, Drago, and Aerostar[domed cage]
(13:24, below average,
Lucha Libre AAA)

03:39 OGT all escape
05:40 Ricky Marvin, Argenis and Lanzeloth escape
07:00 Mocho Cota escapes
07:40 Aerostar escapes
10:53 Raptor escapes
12:11 Carta Brava escapes
13:24 Drago escapes

What Happened: The rudos work together, the técnicos bleed, then OGT all climb out to leave Poder del Norte behind. The tecnicos all work together then the Lanzelot, Argenis and Ricky Marvin group al climb out. (Marvin has trouble getting over, but everyone just decides to stop trying to get him.) That means the six people supposed to be in this match are all out of it after five minutes.

Mocho Cota climbs out with almost no one noticing. He slides in a chair for the rudos to use. There’s already a ladder in there from the start, so it’s not like they really need it all that much. Rudos handcuff Raptor to the ropes, and Cota waves around the key. This backfires pretty easily– the tecnicos just come back, attack Cota, and Aerostar eventually passes the key to Drago. (That takes some time. Rudos make no attempt to escape.) Raptor leaves immediately, leaving Drago behind. Drago cuffs Tito Santana and taunts Carta Brava with the key. Drago tosses the key out, Carta attacks him and escapes. Tito thinks Carta has left him for dead, but Carta is actually going for the key. (A ringside worker has picked up the key and starts to walk away with it, but Carta gets it from him.) Carta tosses the key in, but too far away from Tito and Raptor jumps on Carta from the top of the cage. Drago climbs out and that’s it for the match.

Tito is freed from the cage. They cut off a chuck of his hair, but he’s clearly not shaved by the time they cut away.

Review: The main event was a very whatever match. The action wasn’t good, and the people supposed to be in the match leaving quickly was a rip off. It makes it harder to get your next storyline over when you so fail to deliver like they did here. There’s never a lot of action in a cage match and the stuff here was not good and not shot well. The earlier trios title match was not good, but still better than this. They tried to create drama with the key bit, and I kind of wonder if it would’ve worked better if Carta never gets to toss in the key because Raptor cuts him off with the dive first, rather than Carta screwing up and throwing the key too far away from Tito. That’s the least of the problems with this match, which has never been good any time they’ve done it and that won’t stop them from doing it again.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-21

Villano III is delightfully crazy

Recapped: 10/26/2017

Matches: 

Ashley, Pardux, The Tigger beat Ángel Mortal Jr., Chicano, Hahastary
(6:38, Ashely Canadian Destroyer Hahastary, good, via
Lucha Libre AAA )

Lanzeloth beat Johnny Mundo ©  Máscara de BronceVenum, , Hijo Del VikingoSolarisDragón SolarVillano III Jr.AngelikalTiger Boy to win the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship
(10:11, Lanzeloth moonsault Villano III, good, via
Lucha Libre AAA )

Lady Shani beat Ayako Hamada to win the AAA’s Reina de Reinas championship
(8:21, Lady Shani guillotine choke, ok, via
Estrellas del Ring)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker beat Aerostar, Drago, Raptor for the AAA World Trios Championship
(9:30, Carta Brava frontcracker, good, via
 Lucha Libre AAA )

What happened: 

Fenix and Aerostar are having a great armdrag battle

Aerostar does a big dive off the light tower, which wipes out Mocho & Tito. Drago and Carta are left in the ring for about 20 seconds before OGT get involved. Dragon has Carta in his cradle, but the referees pull referee Copetes away. Drago argues, and Carta gives him a backcracker and an odd looking cradle for the win. Carta was posited so oddly that he might have also had the ropes, but they didn’t really show it.

Averno says his guys want a shot at the trios titles (which was teased between these two teams before the start of this, though no one brings it up), and it’s not important what Vampiro thinks of it. An angry Drago demands Vampiro come out to fix the result. Averno says Drago’s scared of them as Drago continues to yell for Vampiro. Vampiro does show up to salute the crowd. Drago rather angrily gets in Vampiro’s face and demands he do something about his team being cheated out of the titles. Poder del Norte says his side is the real champs. Vampiro stops for a Vampiro chant. Vampiro’s solution is to put Drago’s team in the cage match so they can get revenge on OGT. Drago likes this idea. Poder del Norte like this idea too, which seems to say it’s a bad idea. Vampiro reacts by putting Poder del Norte in the cage match too. They storm out.

this seems a tough outfit to do that move

Ayako teased fighting Shani after the match, but instead put the belt on her and they hugged.

All the Llaves guys came out as a group for the Cruiserweight, which makes it quicker but just gets people to think of them as a “Llave” guys. They haven’t done anything to help the fans get into them as individuals and it’s probably not happening any time soon. Everyone attacks Mundo at the opening, which eventually leads to him just rolling out. Mundo stayed outside a long time, and then refused to participate in the dive train. Leo Riano is confused on the finish; referee counted one as he was doing an over dramatic flop to the mat.

Noti AAA has Marisela congratulating Pagano & Psycho for winning the LWC belt back from the Americans. Psycho and Pagano also talk about their win while still in Japan.

Thoughts: 

Pardux and Chicano

The two trios had better matches earlier in the series then they did to end it. This is definitely one of those things where what I’m looking for in matches just doesn’t fit with what they feel will get the best reaction. The Aerostar dive is incredible, but it also ceased the momentum of the match, which really could’ve used a more dramatic ending for being the fifth in a five (or really six) match series, but neither team was close to winning before the interference kicked in. And the interference didn’t make a lick of sense, as the OGT could’ve just as easily challenged the técnicos if they won – there was no reason for them to care who won this match enough to get involved. Before, the work was generally good, though off in small places. Raptor’s outfit now looks better than his shaky wrestling. It’s good AA did this series because the matches were good early on, but the idea of doing a five match series is to build upon what you’ve done before, and this one just felt like it could’ve been announced the day of the show for all the meaning it had. I guess I liked it enough to be good, but I don’t feel strongly about it.

Lady Shani and Ayako Hamada went for it – and missed. They were self consciously trying for a great match and ended up with a sloppy fight that the fans never really got into it. It felt closer to the fans turning on it when Shani messed up the Gori Special, but they were mostly polite and there were enough of fans of Shani cheering for her win that this wasn’t embarrassing. It just didn’t come together at all, with moves looking off, strike exchanges looking messy, and no real build to the finish. Ayako’s offense looked better, crushing Shani with a powerbomb later. Shani’s choke came out of nowhere, isn’t a move the fans are used to seeing a finish, and no one seemed to think it was the finish until the referee stopped the match. They can do better than this, but the OK is a generous grade.

rudo teamwork

The Cruiserweight match had some enjoyable moments amid stuff that didn’t work out go anywhere. The good stuff was good enough for me, but it also felt like they could’ve had more with less people. The match was split up into parts: everyone stomping Mundo, everyone else taking a turn of offense, Mundo beating up everyone one on one, and a very quick wrap up to a finish. The non-Mundo offense was the most entertaining, but it was hard to miss the story of the match being Johnny Mundo being much better than these scrubs. I don’t know that they’re really trying with anyone here, but it doesn’t help for Mundo mow thru each one of them as if he’s much above their level. Bronce’s big revenge after all of this was a DDT on the floor, which was cut away from as quick as possible (even though Bronce was taking a Spanish Fly on the floor.) The one on ones were quick and exciting, but so numerous that it was tough for anyone or anything to have a singular impact. There were some rough points, and they could’ve done them favors by editing around the Villano III spots with Solar and Hijo del Vikingo. (Even despite this, V3 looked like the best rudo.) Mascara de Bronce and Venum’s experience in AAA for the last year should’ve helped them stand out, but they looked as shaky as everyone else. This win seemed to mean a lot to Lanzeloth, but he came off like the winner of a door prize than obviously the best guy, and there’d be a lot more to do if they wanted to get him or this title over. Not sure they’re that invested in it.

Tito tries to wipe out a dinosaur

The opener was an enjoyable Llave de la Gloria match. The rudo team carried it for me for the most part, coming off as an effective unit for an improvised trio. Chicano seems like he’s always in the right position and both he and Mortal took big bumps. Hahastray had one of her better matches. Pardux stands out with his dives, and I’m kind of surprised he wasn’t in the cruiserweight match – I guess not everyone could be.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-30 

EC3

Recapped: 10/01/2017

All matches were taped on Palenque Inforum, Irapuato, Guanajuato on 09/04/2017 

Matches: 

Mini Psycho Clown © beat Dinastía for the AAA World Minis Championship
(4:20, Psycho foul Dinastia, below average, via
luchalibreaaatv)

Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs EC3 & James Storm
(9:07, Storm superkick Fantasma, ok, via
luchalibreaaatv)

Dr. Wagner Jr. beat Rey Escorpión & Psycho Clown 
(8:12, Wagner casita Psycho Clown, ok, via
luchalibreaaatv)

What Happened:

Marty makes some friends

Psycho Clown starts the show by talking about TripleMania. There are noticeable boos, but it’s even more noticeable the building is half full at best. It would fill up later on but it looks bad for this promo. Wagner shows up to give Psycho respect for the win and to repeat the unmasking for this crowd. They’re interrupted by Rey Escorpión, who says he’s looking to face the best in AAA, and not really happy Wagner is ripping off his “Rey” idea. Both Wagner & Psycho attack him and Wagner hits his catchphrase to end the bit.

Finish of that main event is Escorpión fouling Psycho while Tirantes is distracted, Wagner shoving Escorpión out of the way, and using a casita to beat Psycho. Kevin Kross came out of the crowd to beat up all three men after the match.

this bit would’ve been better if they didn’t shoot it from the moon

Texano & Fantasma aren’t getting along from the start of their match, which is played up as US vs Mexico by the Impact guys. Fantasma and Texano attacked each other when they got the advantage, which meant that advantage was short lived. Fantasma gets the Thrill of the Hunt on EC3, Texano shoves Fantasma off the pin, Fantasma kicks Texano, and Storm superkicks Fantasma for the win.

Noti AAA talks about the Heroes Inmortales lineup: dome cage match, the three way match (where extreme stuff is promised), Mundo defending all of his titles, Ayako & Shani for the women’s title, and the trios title final. The Antonio Pena mess is on 10/05. There’s also an interview with unmasked Wagner, who talks about love.

Marty comes down to watch this match and pulls Dinastia off Psycho Clown after a Spanish Fly. A weird looking shot (like they missed the original shot and digitally zoomed in from another angle) shows Psycho fouling Dinastia for the win.

Thoughts: 

Kross showing up to suplex people, never to have a match

The main event was another generic OK match. The crowd was way into it, because they really want to cheer for Wagner right now, but the action was nothing special. Psycho Clown is truly a Super Muneco for a new generation, as most of his selling appears to be head nodding. Rey Escorpión was fine, but didn’t make a strong impression one way or another. Kevin Kross laying everyone out and not being in.

The tag match was very much just a match, something were the brawling was OK but this was just another time killing moment until they get to whatever they’re going with Texano/Fantasma. They should be there by now, they’ve been feuding since May, and seeing them cost each other matches has long outlived it’s interested. The crowd didn’t know the Impact guys and why would they with no effort made to introduce them. EC3 is entertaining even as much as it seems he doesn’t want to be there.

The minis title is dead in importance and so are the guys fighting for it. Mini Psycho and Dinastia are having worse matches than when this started (in 2015) and the finish was a joke. Marty’s interference was crap. How can you have Ricky Marvin be disqualified last week for doing something illegal the ref didn’t see, and Mini Psycho isn’t disqualified for something the ref did see? Dinastia no longer comes off as special and didn’t stand out at all in this match. They’re obviously being Marty, but I don’t know why anyone would care about the rest of this.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-23 

would’ve been even better without the camera switch while they were running

Recapped: 10/01/2017

All matches were taped on Palenque Inforum, Irapuato, Guanajuato on 09/04/2017.

Matches: 

Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Solaris beat Ángel Mortal Jr., Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr.  
(7:15, Angelikal & Hijo del Vikingo shooting star press Villano III & Tiger Boy, good, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Lady Shani beat Big MamiAyako HamadaFaby ApacheLa Hiedra  to be part of the AAA’s Reina de Reinas decision match (6:02, Lady Shani Gori Special La Hidera, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly beat Argenis, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin
(9:44, Ricky Marvin DQed when Super Fly hits the referee with the chair and frames Marvin, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker beat Aerostar, Drago, Raptor
(7:49, Carta Brava foul Raptor, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

rudos get Angelikal both ways

OGT threw chairs at the tecnicos to start the match early. Ricky bleeds off a chairshot to the face. Argenis mask is tore to pieces, he’s covered in blood too, and Lanzelot is bleeding by the end. Super Fly hits Copetes with the chair and tosses it to Ricky to draw the DQ win. Averno gets about three words of taunting Marvin before Vampiro comes out to kiss up to everyone. Vampiro, in a long speech, makes a dome cage match where the loser loses their hair or mask.

Vampiro explained his concept of having Johnny Mundo defend each of his titles at Heroes Inmortales to Dorian, in revenge for Johnny trying to manipulate AAA. Dorian gives the OK. Dorian is on the phone after Vampiro leaves, and it’s shot like it’s supposed to be a mystery conversation.

Noti AAA hypes the Ring & Rock Stars, the Panini magazine, the upcoming remembrance of Antonio Pena, and the charity work AAA did with the Red Cross helping out people of the (first earthquake.)

Thoughts: 

good idea, rough landing

The two trios were consciously trying to have a Great match in the main event, but it wasn’t coming together. A lot of stuff didn’t look as crisp or clean as usual. Raptor had two moves off the top in the match and seemed to mess up the landing on both. Drago’s flip DDT didn’t go well, Aerostar’s springboard went ok but the move on Tito didn’t look right. The pace of the match was slow with the rudos control early. It picked up later, but this one didn’t feel all that close good even before the foul finish. Hope the final goes better.

OGT vs técnicos seemed like it was going to be successful in building up the issue between two teams to explain the cage match. It got really serious from the get go. The blood was a bit too much, but it fit with what they were going for. The finish really didn’t work; rudo Super Fly outsmarting Ricky Marvin doesn’t fit the tone of the heated dispute going on. The OGT are jerks, but it felt like a time where they could’ve better gotten away with a foul win (or even an angry Ricky fouling the técnicos.)

Angelikal tornillo

There’s probably enough of AAA multiwoman matches for the time being. There’s not really producing anything interesting. The highlight is cheering for Shani after she pins Hedra, then quiet as people try to figure out if it was an elimination match, and then cheers again when she gets her arm raised. Otherwise, there as just people doing moves and none of them really coming off as important. Ayako and Faby mostly stayed out of it; you’d have trouble remembering Faby is still in AAA right now if she wasn’t in the bumpers. Pushing different people isn’t a problem, it’s just such a drastic switch from the last decade plus of programming – she’s not even being asked to take the losses, she’s just being asked to make up the numbers. Finish looked nice anyway.

The opener was another fun match with the Llaves guys, the best new thing AAA has going this year. This wasn’t a técnico showcase as the TripleMania match, with the rudos seemingly taking the match for longer and looking more impressed while they did. It’s a small thing, but I really like Tiger Boy’s taunting punch duck spot. The técnicos dive spot looking amazing, as did the finish. It feels like these are more worked out in advance the most AAA matches, but it’s making them look like future stars whoever they do it.