Alberto, AAA, Rafa el Maya

Dragon Lee vs Aramis/photo by Black Terry Jr.

As expected, both the MLW show and Wrestling Observer Radio talked a lot about Alberto last night. Some highlights:

The time line is in question. Konnan said WWE had been in contract with Alberto “for a while”, HHH called Alberto within the last week, Alberto named his price, HHH said it was too high, and the deal didn’t get done until Vince got involved. Dave Meltzer also says AAA did not know until Saturday night or Sunday morning, but the deal was “clearly done weeks ago” based on what he heard from people in the company and stuff like Alberto already having a new shirt out. Meltzer says one person knew weeks ago, and Alberto had been the guy planned to beat John Cena on this show for a while. Meltzer says the chances of Alberto coming to WWE increased as soon as Alberto & LU parted ways (which Meltzer says wasn’t a mutual decision); without the Lucha Underground money, Alberto wasn’t making close to he had in WWE and that was going to be the best option. Konnan agrees, saying WWE just offered Alberto a deal a company their size can not match.

I’m guessing Alberto didn’t lose his title at Heroes Inmortales because he probably wouldn’t be thrilled to lose in San Luis Potosi once again, and maybe AAA thought they would have a few more months to work this out. (For his part, Meltzer thought Alberto was going back to WWE, but was thinking more a Royal Rumble surprise.) Alberto was nice to AAA when telling him he was leaving and told them he would be working out his dates, but that’s not for sure – no one know what WWE is going to say. There are conflicts between Alberto’s remaining AAA schedule and what WWE would probably want him to work:

11/02 AAA TV in Reynosa and WWE Raw TV on 11/02 in Denver
11/07 ZZinc in Veracruz and WWE live in Leeds/Madrid
11/15 AAA TV in Juarez; no WWE but they’d be on their way back from Europe
11/19 ZZinc in Leon; no WWE show (break from Europe)
11/20 ZZinc in Morelia; no WWE show
11/21 ZZinc in Queretaro; no WWE show
11/22 ZZinc in Aguascalientes; WWE Survivor Series
12/05 AAA TV Guerra de Titanes (new date, no location); WWE in Augusta & Fayetteville

Konnan said he was headed to Raw in San Diego today to talk with Alberto and see where everything’s at. It seems unlikely Alberto will work in Reynosa or Aguascalientes unless he got an outstanding deal. The Juarez and the other ZZInc shows are plausible; there are logistical difficulties (beyond upgraded plane tickets) for WWE adding people to their European tours. If they can’t add him anyway, he’d be free. The Guerra de Titanes show are opposite normal house shows. If he’s going to be allowed to do any show, it’ll be that one.

The MLW Radio show, especially the first 28 minutes, has a lot more on AAA. It was Konnan first public statement on Caristico leaving; it sounds like Konnan wasn’t happy with the way it went down, but doesn’t feel losing a rudo Myzteziz is a big loss. He didn’t feel like Myzteziz could physically handle making the tecnicos look good, and put the blame on the problems with the TripleMania match on him. Konnan confirmed that TripleMania was the show where Myzteziz and Alberto were being kept on opposite sides of the building, which caused trouble putting together the Rey/Myzteziz match. He says Alberto thought he and Caristico were friends again by their end of their WWE stint – there was an incident where Sheamus was rough with Sin Cara in a match, and Alberto ended up getting in a fight with Shemaus over it – and Alberto was surprised when Myzteziz badmouthed him by telling the lockerroom that Alberto only wanted to have matches against his US friends. (Alberto says this is not true, but it’s going to be interesting to see who wins the Mega title from him – if someone even does.)

In other random notes, Konnan was really proud of Heroes Inmortales and both he and Court Bauer noted they wished that was the TripleMania show. Konnan said AAA isn’t sitting on their hands about the departures and will have a “humongous surprise” that the Mexican fans will like. (I’d guessed this would be a jump, but Alfredo suggested this might be Lucha Underground coming to Mexico – that fits with Bryan Alvarez’s rumor that LU had gotten their funding for season 2 and season 3.) The original Guerra de Titanes main event was to be Alberto vs “Jeff”; guessing that means Jeff Jarrett, leading out of the post-World Cup angle which was quickly dropped. Willie Mack will be in AAA soon; he’s already coming for a few shows (the ZZInc shows?) and will be teaming with Speedball at Guerra de Titanes. Flamita is probably going to be in Lucha Underground, and Mr. 450 impressed in his AAA TV appearance enough to be brought back in the future.

SuperLuchas reminds us they mentioned a rumor Alberto was going to WWE last week and Dorian Roldan shot them down. Oops! They also wonder if Alberto will lose the AAA title as cleanly as John Cena lost the WWE US title to him.

Referee Rafa el Maya also says he’s leaving AAA. He left CMLL after being left off the anniversary show, and it sounds like things were fixed after a meeting during the Elite Lucha Libre show. Maya says he has nothing bad to say about AAA.

CMLL (SUN) 10/25/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Linterna & Rey Halcón b Gitano & Relampago
2) Explosivo & Star Black b Gran Kenut & Mercenario
3) El Yaqui & Nube Roja DCOR El Chakal & Mr. Apolo [super libre]
double countout in the no DQ match. Hair match challenged followed.
4) Omar Brunetti, Pepe Aguayo, Vaquero Jr. b Maléfico, Ráfaga, Sádico
5) El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
Sangre Dinamita won falls 1/3, setting up a title match in the future.

They won’t be doing the title match next week, because that’s the Elite show here.

CMLL Puebla tonight will be an hour later than usual due to the time change, starting at 11pm ET. It’s a one week change. Shocker versus La Sombra main events, with Revolucionarios versus Guerreros as the semimain. The Batillion del Muerte opens the show, so you’ll want to stay up to see their wacky entrance (or just watch it the next day.)

Cadena3 went off the air and was replaced by ExcelsiorTV this morning. Their programming schedule is hard to find and may not be updated, but there’s no sign of CMLL on it. The change over was so quick that things could still change on that.

Caristico believes he made Mistico, Sin Cara and “another name” into big deals, so he can do it again with a four name.

Ricochet was pulled off the 11/14 JAPW show. That’s believed to be the first taping of the new season for a while, though one would expect ticket info to come out soon if that’s a case.

Blue Panther Jr. said he’s off to visit the doctor today, so maybe he missed Friday’s show due to injury?

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Dragon Lee vs Aramis.

Super Libre’s guests included Rey Trueno, Rayman, and Rush.

Segunda Caida watched Ephesto vs Blue Panther. I sometimes forget that Ephesto is 50 years old, but he moves like it.


CMLL (SUN) 11/01/2015 Arena México
1) Aéreo & Angelito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Star Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Canelo Casas, Espanto Jr., Nitro
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Luciferno
4) Blue Panther, Super Porky, Valiente vs Felino, Mephisto, Vangellys
5) Marco Corleone vs Kráneo
6) Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Shocker, Último Guerrero

The second of the Dia de Muertos shows! We feared it was going to be an all Thunder singles match week, but it turns out to be an all Kraneo singles match week. Great! I’m looking forward to Marco and Kraneo and think this card is not so far off from the one they’re putting on iPPV (which is more a complaint about the iPPV card quality.)

No Coliseo show; they’re hosting boxing on Saturday instead.

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CMLL Puebla: 2015-09-14

classic Dark Angel

Recapped: 10/16/2015

What happened: Rey Escorpion cheated Atlantis to set up a title match next week. Dark Angel won her final match in Arena Puebla.

What was good: The Dark Angel match, maybe? The minis match had moments.

Where can I watch it: it’s on CMLL’s channel, and edited versions of the matches aired on 52MX already. (more…)

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Alberto leaves AAA, Carístico returns to Arena Mexico, Lucha Memes

photo by Black Terry Jr.

Alberto leaves AAA

There’s not a lot worthwhile to say about the Alberto situation that won’t be added to or corrected in a few hours. Both MLW and the Wrestling Observer have podcasts out later tonight which will likely add more information about the situation. I’m going to stumble thru a few paragraphs anyway, but I’m making assumption which could quickly said to be wrong.

My best guess is Alberto is working Guerra de Titanes, drop the title, and that’s it. It appears he (unlike Myzteziz) let AAA know ahead of time and he’ll work out the rest of his dates, but previously saying he wanted to take no bookings in December is the indication of when he’ll be working only WWE. (No one’s said when Guerra de Titanes is, but I’m under the impression it’s late November this year, maybe 11/29.) Alberto’s already changed his Twitter profile back to just WWE and there was no mention of AAA on the PPV; any thoughts of some sort of alliance is wishful thinking. AAA is just some indie dates Alberto’s finishing up, as far as they’re concerned. I’m guessing Alberto got an awesome deal as part of returning; beating Cena clean on his first night is a good start.

AAA has to decide what to do with the Megachampionship next. The best case is Texano or Fantasma or Mundo or Cage just beating Alberto, but it may be a situation where Alberto can not or will not lose cleanly and they’ll have to add a third person to get beat. Mundo’s the guy most recently set up to challenge, but he’s not a regular and he’s also a guy it would seem WWE would make a run at. (It’s possible he’s under Lucha Underground contract; those ones seem to still matter.) Myzteziz only lost to Averno, Perro and Rey. Alberto’s lost in non-significant ways to Cage and Texano. Rey hasn’t lost. AAA’s going to boast about having a lot of young promising stars even after the defections of Alberto and Myzteziz; one of them really needs to get a win here.

Lucha Underground says Alberto leaving their group was a mutual decision. There have been reports about Alberto not coming back since pretty much last season ended but, given what happened with Hernandez, there had to be a real release given at some point or WWE wouldn’t have brought Alberto in. (It’s the LU contract that’s important; the AAA ones don’t seem especially binding.) There’s also been occasional reports for weeks/months in the Observer and Steve Sims’ section of the Figure Four that at least one member of the Myzteziz/Alberto/Rey Misterio group weren’t happy with what they were being paid by AAA, as it wasn’t what they were promised.

Elite Lucha Libre

Elite Lucha Libre (SUN) 10/25/2015 Arena México [+LuchaTV, MT]
Attendance: 8000
1) Pegasso & Puma (CMLL) b Fly Warrior & Principe Diamante
Pegasso worked rudo, and landed on Fly Warrior’s ribs while failing at a 450 splash.
2) Aeroboy, Ángel de Oro, Golden Magic b Kamaitachi, Okumura, Tiger
Said to be a very good match
3) Bárbaro Cavernario & Hechicero DQ Heddi Karaoui & Zumbi
Zumbi fouled Hechicero.
4) Blue Panther & Negro Casas b Negro Navarro & Solar I
Money thrown in. Los Traumas came to the ring to challenge the Panther and the Casas families to matches. It was announced one of those matches would happen on the upcoming show.
5) Máximo, Silver King, Valiente b Bestia 666, Damián 666, Halloween
Silver King wore facepaint instead of his mask. Maximo was introduced as Maximo Sexy. Damian fouled Maximo.
6) Carístico & Volador Jr. DQ La Máscara & Rush
the original Mistico was listed as Ex-Mistico, announced his new name would be Mistic 2.0 (to wide mockery) and declared his name would now be Caristico. His team took falls 2/3, with Rush fouling Caristico and unmasking him for the DQ. Volador & Carístico showed no tension. Los Ingobernables declared this was their arena now, not Carístico’s.

Show did not draw especially well, a surprise to everyone involved. The estimate is 8,000. That’s more than a normal Friday show gets, but a lineup with this many names and with the first Mistico I match in Arena Mexico in five years should crack 10,000 easy. Both the Dia de Muertos shows last year appeared to outdraw this show and it’s possible this year’s shows will do so as well. The original All Elite shows did better than this attendance. Elite surely was disappointed with the numbers and it seem fair to already wonder how many of the Sundays shows they’re going to be around for if this is night one turnout. Again, 8,000 is much better than CMLL draws, but they’re doing it at much higher than CMLL costs.

Mistic 2.0 announced he was changing his name once again, this time to Caristico, in a post show interview. (It appears he was actually announced as Mistico.) Caristico is a combination of (Sin) Cara and Mistico. It’s a slightly better name than anything with a “2.0” in it.  His explanation is he felt there would be too much confusion between Mistico and Mistic 2.0.

In an interview from Friday with +LuchaTV, then Mistic 2.0 now says he didn’t have an AAA written contract because his word was good enough. (LuchaWorld has a full recap.) He says he left AAA because they had no plans for him, and he had no problems with anyone backstage.

I’m fairly certain AAA had plans for Myzteziz for Guerra de Titanes, and everyone was well aware they wanted to have him and Rey Mysterio rematch at TripleMania.

Maximo confirmed on Twitter that he was being forced to change his name to Maximo Sexy. (He also spelled it Sxy.) It’s an awful name. Looking thru the trademark database, there is a pre-existing Maximo trademark being aimed at children and being used on shirts, and the CMLL Maximo trademark was applied for but never approved. CMLL did apply for another Maximo name at that time, but it was actually “Sexy Maximo”. Maybe CMLL will change it in a few weeks. The La Mascara’s trademark is in a similar state of being applied for years ago but apparently never approved.

It’s kind of silly CMLL is going thru all this work to own the trademark on characters they barely do anything to merchandise. And there’s many better names than Maximo Sexy, a name most people will never actually use. (Like, they’re not great, but couldn’t they just call him “Maximo Alvarado” or “Maximo Brazo”?)

Lucha Memes

Lucha Memes (SUN) 10/25/2015 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV]
1) Alastor, Leviatham, Sádico b Indio Makawi, Jasson, Súper X
Sadico’s team is Zona 23.
2) Alas de Acero & Iron Kid b Atomic Star & Super Mega
good match.
3) Demasiado © b Juana La Loca, Diva Salvaje [War City Exotico]
Demasiado kept the championship. Good match.
4) Black Terry b Belial
Very good match.
5) Disturbio b El Hijo del Diablo
Ciber Punk helped his Lucha Kaos leader get the win.
6) Keira b Rocky Lobo, Garrobo Punk
No Garrobo Punk, so this was turned into a three way. Keira beat Ciber Punk.
7) Arez & Impulso b Decnnis & Toscano
Maybe a slight upset, very good match with money thrown in. Revenge challenges followed.
8) Dragon Lee (CMLL) b Aramis
Said to be a MOTYC, money thrown in.

This slips a bit under the radar with the bigger news happening, but sounds like it was a good show with Dragon Lee versus Aramis a must see match. Disturbio’s match is up on YouTube as always and Black Terry Jr.’s photos are going up here.

Other news

CMLL (SAT) 10/24/2015 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala b El Rebelde
2) Sensei b Akuma
3) Stukita COR Mercurio
match ended early when Terror Chino counted Mercurio out as he was coming back in fromt a dive.
4) Súper Halcón Jr. b Cancerbero
5) Delta b Sangre Azteca
Virus replaced Sangre Azteca on Monday.
6) La Vaquerita & Marcela b La Comandante & La Seductora
7) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Volador Jr. b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Vangellys
Vangellis replaced Negro Casas on Monday. Angel de Oro replaced Titan.

A show. (I’m going to push Arena Coliseo Guadalajara to Monday.)

On Friday, Bryan Alvarez said on Wrestling Observer Live that he heard a rumor Lucha Underground had gotten a lot of funding, enough to easily cover seasons 2 and season 3. Steve Sims, on the line at the time, said he had not heard that. There was also discussion about the benefits/downsides of LU moving away from wrestling and more sci-fi, with the different hosts disagreeing on it. Somewhere in here, Bryan (seemingly joking) suggested an alien character, which caused Lucha Underground producers to mock the idea on Twitter. I don’t think we’re getting aliens.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida watches some random recent CMLL.


IWRG (WED) 10/28/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Bambio, Canario, Fly Tiger vs Gafe, Kabra Kan, Skanda
2) Charly Boy, Guerrero 2000, Vardeus vs Ángel De La Muerte I, Ángel De La Muerte II, Vengador
3) Fireman, Rey Flecha, Shadow Boy vs Acero, Blue Monsther, Macho
4) Atomic Star, Galaxy, Kanon vs Picudo Jr., Troll, Violencia Jr.
5) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Black Drago, Dragón Fly, Fresyer, Hijo del Alebrije, Látigo, Power Bull vs Ángel Dorado, Ángel Dorado Jr., Cruz Del Silencio, Emeprador Sayri, Hades, Obituary, Rene Rocks, Toro Machine [Copa Higher Power]
Torneo FILL XLVI; Gym FILL versus Gym SCW.

SCW is a Morelia based promotion. Neither team is listed with a trainer, but that looks like an Eterno team. Cruz del Silencio is a deaf luchador who wrestled briefly with DTU.

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Alberto el Patron back to WWE; AAA losing another major star

AAA started the year with a pretty formidable big four

  • Rey Mysterio Jr.
  • Myzteziz
  • Perro Aguayo Jr.
  • Alberto el Patron.

Perro passed away. Myzteziz is returning to Arena Mexico as I write this. And Alberto del Rio just returned to WWE.

Alberto beat John Cena for the US championship in a match which was planned to be Cena’s last match for a few weeks. Alberto is expected to return full time to WWE, though the details are unknown.

It appears AAA knew about this in advance. There was an MLW podcast announced with Konnan prior to the reveal, and MLW would have the best info about Alberto doing anything. Dorian Roldan sent out a positive message about Alberto and suggested he’d be in both promotions, at least for the moment. My hunch is Alberto is working with AAA for all his announced dates – as Mistic claimed he wanted to do – and losing a title match to someone at Guerra de Titanes. But this is obviously a very strange story.

Alberto’s next scheduled appearance is on 11/02 in Nuevo Laredo, the pushed back TV taping.

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Naito helps Los Ingobernables win, CMLL offers weak iPPV, FantasticaMania

Los Ingobernables/photo by Alexis Salazar-CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 10/23/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Estadio Deportes, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Okumura, Sangre Azteca, Súper Comando b The Panther, Tiger, Tritón
Tiger replaced Blue Panther Jr. and didn’t get along with his partners. Super Comando beat the Panther by using the ropes and they continue to feud.
2) Blue Panther, Delta, Rey Cometa b Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Hechicero b Heddi Karaoui [lightning] TERCERA LUCHA VIERNES 23 DE OCTUBRE 2015 CMLL (1) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:17. Hechicero submitted Karaoui in a match which derailed near the finish.
4) Dragon Lee, Máximo, Mistico b Ephesto, Kamaitachi, Mephisto EVENTO ESPECIAL VIERNES 23 DE OCTUBRE 2015 CMLL (2) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dragon Lee was back wrestling, and beat Kamaitachi for the win.
5) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Thunder LUCHA SEMIFINAL VIERNES 23 DE OCTUBRE 2015 CMLL (3) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Terrible & Rey Bucanero replaced Gran Guerrero & Euforia on Monday. Ultimo beat Thunder clean with the Guerrero Special
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush b Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. LUCHA ESTELAR VIERNES 23 DE OCTUBRE 2015 CMLL (4) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Naito showed up with Los Ingobernables and spend the match wandering around ringside. Naito snuck in the ring to foul Volador and set up a Sombra win.

The Ingobernables were happy about humiliating VoladorHechicero was satisfied with his win.

The feed was blocked in the US and probably should be assumed to be any time it’s on ClaroSports going forward. It’s frustrating. The feed died at the end of the fourth match and it took me until the sixth match to get back on.

Naito’s not booked next week or any place else I can still in Mexico. He might be in Mexico City only just to hang out between NJPW appearances and interfere in matches.

The next big show in Arena Mexico is the first one of the relaunched Elite Lucha Libre group. Like everything else, it’s main evented by Volador versus Los Ingobernables, with Volador teaming with old friend/enemy Mistic 2.0. +LuchaTV interviewed Principe Diamante, Fly Warrior and Golden Magic about their appearances on the show.

NJPW announced the schedule for the 2016 FantasticaMania tour

01/17 Kōchi
01/19 Kyoto
01/20 Osaka
01/22 – 01/24 Korakuen Hall in Tokyo

Kochi replaces Kagawa from last year. They ran one of the three Tokyo shows in Shin-Kiba 1st ring in previous years. Some of the shows will be on NJPWWorld, but it won’t be announced which ones for quite a while.

The list of luchadors on the tour typically comes out the day after the November NJPW major show, so maybe 11/09 this year. They’re teasing the possibility a different CMLL luchador may be loaned out to NJPW for a year, like Mascara Dorada this past year. Given Mascara Dorada hasn’t really done that much, this doesn’t seem like the greatest plan. (Mascara Dorada lost in a first round of a tournament today, as always.)

Guerrero Negro Jr. is doing better after being shot, and told Zocalo Deportes that CMLL invited him to return to the promotion after he recovers. He expects to return to Arena Mexico the second week of January. That’s when many guys will be gone for FantasticaMania, so it’s a little believable CMLL would have spaces to bring people in. I’m not sure I totally believe this story, but it’s something to watch out for.

Cadena3 is indeed still on the air, and their internet feed was still working as of this writing, so tonight’s episode of Tuesday lucha will air as scheduled. That’ll be it, at least for now.

RobViper has highlights of 05/08/15 CMLL.

LuchaWorld has a new edition of the podcast and KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida reviews La Fiera versus Black Magic

RIOT wrestling put up Sammy Guevara & Low Rider versus Kratoz and Ultimo Ninja for their first show.

Joe Lider challenged Angelico & Jack Evans for the tag team titles.

The Moreno family talks about the upcoming Arena Azteca Budokan 59th anniversary show on 11/29.


CMLL (FRI) 10/30/2015 Arena México
1) Acero & Último Dragoncito vs Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Esfinge, Oro Jr., The Panther vs Raziel, Skándalo, Súper Comando
3) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero vs Boby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Thunder
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Rush vs Máximo, Super Parka, Valiente
6) Volador Jr. © vs La Sombra [NWA WELTER]
5th defense

This is a very ordinary card outside the main event, a match they’ve done many times and just two months ago for free on the internet. You’re not trying to hard when Pequeno Unvierso makes an iPPV cut, and you really have to do more than one meaningful match. With the strange and seemingly uncoordinated way CMLL works on things, it feels like maybe the iPPV & TV people were excited to do a big show for Dia del Muertos, but maybe not so much the programming group.

The real selling point is the Dia de Muertos set dressing and costuming, which will look great but might not be enough for people who can just see the one important match for free a few weeks later. (Also, I’d expect a good amount of people confused if they can actually watch it since the previous Friday shows have been blocked.) It is only $6, but the buys are going to well down from last time.

Super Comando/The Panther is a real feud.

IWRG (SUN) 11/01/2015 Arena Naucalpan
Castillo del Terror, 2015
1) Black Drago & Dragón Bane vs Atomic Star & Vampiro Metálico
2) Leo, Mike, Teelo vs Diablo Jr. I, Imposible, Vortize
3) Mega, Super Mega, Ultra Mega vs Eterno, Oficial AK47, Spector
4) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. © vs Hijo De Dos Caras [IWRG IC HEAVY]
first defense
5) Golden Magic vs Trauma II, Súper Nova, Hijo del Pantera, Rafy, Canis Lupus, Trauma I, El Golpeador, Rayan, Astro Rey Jr. [cage]

This is actually the bigger card (in the context of the promotion) than the CMLL iPPV, though the Mega/Comandos cage match seems to have disappeared. And I’ll probably skip that title match. Second match is Teelo’s first since July.

Golpeador seems like the favorite to lose his mask, but Rayan’s there too. Astro Rey hasn’t been on these shows in quite a while and you can never rule out a Ninja Turtle. The Traumas, Golden Magic, Canis Lupus, Super Nova and Hijo del Pantera all seem very unlikely to lose their mask.

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CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12

Astral gets blasted by a dropkick

Recapped: 10/06/2012

What happened: Astral kept the CMLL minis title. Triton beat Cavernario and asked for a title shot. Cavernario accepted it, but only while taking Triton’s mask.

What was good: I really enjoyed the minis match, and liked the third match.

Where can I watch it: I have it on YouTube. (I don’t have a copy of the main event.)


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CMLL preview, Cadena3

CMLL’s main event tonight has Los Ingobernables versus Atlantis, Volador and Valiente. CMLL not announcing the Dia de Muetros main event may mean they’re waiting for some angle to set up the main event. The most logical main event is another Sombra/Volador match, so that could come out of that. There are other possibilities. NJPW fans have repeatedly mentioned Naito is not on their current tour; he’s said to both have an ear lobe injury and also not be in Japan at the moment. There’s no sign of Naitro being on any match in Mexico any time soon, but we do know Sombra’s scheduled to be teaming with him next month in Japan. There’s also a small possibility of the first Ultimo Guerrero/Thunder match next week – they meet in the semimain with Terrible, Rey Bucanero, Dragon Rojo and Thunder also involved – but it seems more like they’re saving that for down the line.

The Hechicero/Karaoui feud, pushed strongly on CMLL Informa and in interviews, leads to a lightning match between the two tonight. Dragon Lee and Kamaitachi are scheduled to meet in a trios, but Lee’s missed all his matches this week due to injury and seems unlikely to wrestle tonight. The opener has The Panther, Super Comando and Sangre Azteca repeating from last week, where there seemed to be the seed of an issue involving all three.

CMLL hasn’t written a preview for this show, instead using the same spaces to promote next week’s Dia de Muerteos show. The show will air on ClaroSports, though your guess is as good as mine if it’ll be viewable in the US. They are also airing a MMA event and the feed has tended to be geoblocked on weeks where they’re airing another event.

Not much else going on today.

CadenaTres officially announced it was shutting down last night. The explanation seems to be a scheduled switch over from analog to digital was going to be pushed back to at least New Year’s Eve (because Televisa wasn’t ready), this meant many people would be unable to see CadenaTres for months, and so the parent company decided to shut the whole thing down. They’re saying they’ll relaunch a network “a little more than a couple months” after the changeover happens, though there’s no guarantee the switchover won’t be pushed back again. They’re still working on setting up their new national network, so they’re not going away and will be a factor at some point down the road. All their live shows are saying their farewells today, though SkyTV is listing Cadena Tres as ending on October 26 instead. Might still be worth checking to see if the channel is still running on Saturday.

Reforma has an interview with Mistic 2.0, but only a little section of it is available for free. In that, Mistic says he believes AAA didn’t offer him a contract because they thought he was stuck in AAA and didn’t have any options elsewhere.

Big Ryck’s agent says Big Ryck hasn’t retired.

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AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12

Machine lariat!

Recapped: 09/13/2015

What happened: Daga & Steve Pain cost Angelico & Jack a win, but they sort of also cost Lider & Pentagon the win and there’s some tension inside Perros del Mal. Myzteziz and Rey Mysterio started feuding in main events and I’m sure that’ll end up well. There’s a mystery person stalking La Secta, an angle I had completely forgotten existed when I finally put up this recap.

What was good: Everything! The opener was great (and a surprising Australian Suicide focused match), and the three way tag and the main event were good as well.

Where can I watch it: It’s up on AAA’s YouTube channel.


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lucha TV preview for the weekend of October 24


Cadena3 is listed up there but this may just a memorial. Maybe the show returns in January when the channel returns under a new name. Maybe it gets shifted over to a new network quickly. No one knows and we may not know until someone stumbles onto the show randomly (because it’s not like anyone involved is sure to promote it.)

AAA starts a run of one taping per event episodes (which means the main guys make appear more frequently.) Tomorrow’s taping that was going on while Myzteziz was showing up in Arena Mexico. Beyond the matches, this is the first show after Heroes Inmortales so they might start to announce when/where Guerra de Titanes will be held

The time change only really affects CMLL on Puebla and IWRG on this week; they’ll both start around 11pm Eastern on Monday if you’re in the US. (Also, change your clocks on Sunday.) It’ll also push back Noches de Coliseo, but that airs at a random time as it is.

This is a strangely busy week for Heddi Karoui singles matches, between and IWRG.

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great match roundup for week of 2015-09-12

This week is pretty much all internet shows and AAA, though the Tuesday show had a good minis match too.

I believe this will be the last normal week where I’ll have four recaps still to post. Puebla and the iPPV weren’t recapped live, though I think I might have written or talked about the Anniversary show a bit. I will probably change how I’m doing these if C3 is really done Friday, because it’ll just be AAA that I’m not recapping live.

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Atlantis vs La Sombra for the mask CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
great Australian Suicide, Súper Nova, Venum vs Carta Brava Jr., Machine Rocker, Súper Fly AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12 2015-08-31
great Astral © vs Mercurio for the CMLL World Pequeño Estrellas Championship CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
good Angélico & Jack Evans vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoriaand Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr. AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12 2015-08-31
good Fénix & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs El Mesías & Myzteziz AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12 2015-08-31
good Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Okumura, Puma CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
good Astral, Asturiano, Eléctrico vs Espíritu Maligno, Pierrothito, Saurón CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
good Dark Angel vs Princesa Sugehit in a lightning match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
good Esfinge, Fuego, The Panther vs Disturbio, Puma, Virus CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
good Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
ok Pegasso, Starman, Stigma vs Canelo Casas, Nitro, Raziel CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
ok Fuego, The Panther, Tritón vs Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
ok Molotov, Starman, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar, Policeman CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Atlantis, Mistico, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Rey Escorpión, Terrible CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Dark Angel vs Princesa Sugehit CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
ok Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Dragon Lee, Mistico, Valiente CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
ok Shocker, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. vs Marco Corleone, Rush, Thunder in a relevos increíbles match CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18

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