CMLL preview, iPPV notes

CMLL’s big draw tonight was supposed to be the one time Arena Mexico team up of La Familia Real, the Parka/Volador trio of Volador, Super Parka and LA Park. Unfortuantly, LA Park got himself fired before that match was even announced (though it was still announced anyway) and so today’s show is a kind of pointless event.

The new main event is Atlantis, Euforia, Ultimo Guerrero versus La Sombra, Rey Escorpion and Thunder in a relevos incredibles that’s not totally incredible. Sombra’s a rudo teaming with rudos, and Atlantis is reuniting his old team with Ultimo Guerrero. This is Thunder’s first Arena Mexico match in a month, though he was advertised as wrestling for a couple weeks and didn’t with no particular explanation. He returned to the ring last Sunday in Guadalajara and it seems like the mask/hair match match with Ultimo Guerrero is still happening down the road (be it October, Decemeber, or Dos Leyendas.) No LA Park means Super Parka & Volador team with Valiente instead to take on Marco Corleone, Dr. Wagner Jr. and Rush. CMLL’s slightly teased Wagner/Volador feuding in the past, and it might come back up with no LA Park & Rush to do their thing.

The undercard includes some interesting matches, and a lot of people who aren’t back on the card next week. Shockercito & Demus, who are feuding on and off, are back against each other in the minis match.

The show will stream on ClaroSports at You do not need a VPN or to use a Hola plugin to watch. The stream is supposed to start at 8:30pm CT, but it often doesn’t work at the start. Next week’s show is the iPPV (more on that in a sec), and it’s unclear if the Friday night shows will be streamed after that.

Atlantis is doing a lot of interviews saying generic things. That’s his move. Atlantis has said in previous years that he would retire if he lost his mask. He hasn’t said that this year, but no one’s asked him directly in anything I’ve read. Atlantis is wrestling on a random show in Tabasco with five people you’ve never heard of one day before the mask match. That would happen in no other major promotion in the world. (It probably wouldn’t need to happen in most other major promotion.)

CMLL sent out a press release advertising the iPPV. They say “vivo” 3 times, they mention on demand viewing zero times. They may actually be doing on demand viewing and not know to advertise it, because this is their first time and they don’t appear to be consumers of the service they’re selling. However, if you know you’re not going to be able to watch the show live, I’d strongly advise you to wait until after the show to buy it just to be sure VOD is an option at that point.

The press release does specifically say the show is available in Mexico. Some people inside CMLL were under the impression it would not be available in Mexico. Usual CMLL communication.

Rob has highlights of 04/17/2015 CMLL.

Segunda Caida reviews Fuerza Guerrero vs Misterioso.

Super Luchas looks back to Sombra versus Mistico in the Copa Bicentenario. I thought there was a chance Sombra could/shoulder win that, but it worked out much better than Mistico advanced to Volador.

Bleak Street/La Calle de la Amargura, a movie ‘inspired’ by the deaths of La Parkita and Espectrito, debuts at the Venice Film Festival. There’s more info on the film here.

El Paso/Juarez luchadors visited a children’s hospital.

Vice Mexico has a story on the Gallo Sureno family.

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09/10 AAA TV Results (Cancún)

AAA TV (THU) 09/10/2015 Plaza de Toros, Cancún, Quintana Roo[@luchalibreaaa, Deporte Por Dentro, Quequi]
Attendance: 5500
1) Ángelus Fly, Hombre Águila, Invencible Jr. b Black Star, Kid Cometa, Silver Star
2) Argenis, Faby Apache, Goya Kong b Apache, La Hiedra, Taya
3) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. b Murder Clown & Psycho Clown
Rudos beat Murder.
4) Brian Cage, El Mesías, Hijo de Pirata Morgan b Drago, Fénix, La Parka
Mesias snuck in a foul on Parka. Brian Cage appeared to be bald.
5) Angélico, Jack Evans, Rey Mysterio Jr. b Joe Lider, Myzteziz, Pentagón Jr.
Jack beat Lider with a 630, and Angelico & Jack demanded a tag title match.

AAA’s recap is not up yet, but there might not be more notes on this short of show. Quequi said it was a sell out and pictures indicate the same. (Capacity is listed as 5,000 or 5,500 depending on where you look, going with the higher number because there are seats on the floor.) Maybe the bullring will be a usual stop before the Hard Rock Hotel, because that’s a pretty good turnout and it means more days on vacation for everyone.

Cage’s hair was growing back at BOLA, so he would’ve had to reshave his head to be bald at this point. That’s super professional. (Picture was fuzzy, so I may just be missing the hair.)

Earlier in the day, Faby Apache, Drago, Argenis visited a children’s hospital, Pentagon Jr., Taya and Fenix had an autograph signing and Rey Mysterio visited a mural of Rey Mysterio.

Local media outlet Queuqi has been writing short pieces about AAA luchadors, seemingly writing about their gimmicks. Pentagon’s learned banned martial arts moves from Indonesia, Malaysia, and China, Fenix is a scholar of ancient civilizations and got the name from a trip to Egypt and Psycho Clown got his idea for character from when he was five and saw a family member was gunned down by assailants wearing clown masks who were never captured, so he decided to use the same sort of mask to defend the innocent when the law is unable. WHAT.

(This is probably not canon or true, but someone a bit bored.)

Next show is Sunday at the Hard Rock Hotel with the same basic group of guys.

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CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-08 

triple moonsault

Recapped: 08/16/15

What happened that mattered? Nothing. 

Should I go back and watch anything? The opener was a good minis match. The Sky Team was alright in the main event, but there are better versions of that match. That’s the same with most everything else. 

Where can I see it? It’s on my main youtube channel. Links below. 


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10/19 AAA TV Lineup (Nuevo Laredo)


AAA TV (MON) 10/19/2015 Polyforum la Fe, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas
1) Faby Apache, Mr. 450, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Hombre Sin Miedo, Mocho Cota Jr., Taya
2) Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Laredo Kid vs Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Steve Pain
3) ?, Angélico, Jack Evans vs Hijo del Fantasma, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr.
4) Drago, La Parka, Speedball vs Averno, Chessman, Cibernético
5) Fénix, Psycho Clown, Rey Misterio Jr. vs Johnny Mundo, Myzteziz, Texano Jr.

Air Date: 10/31 or 11/07. Thinking more the first.

Remains weird the tapings for after Heroes Inmortales have leaked out and not for the show itself. Maybe they’ll holding it until after tonight’s Cancun taping.

Same roster as Reynosa, same basic matches with a few people moved around and a different set of locals. Laredo Kid will be in a fantastic match, that’s pretty cool. Speedball is getting brought all the way to Mexico for a match with La Parka and the Hell Brothers, that seems a waste. (Even though it’d be a demotion for the new guy, I’d rather see Pimpi in that spot and Speedball int he opener.) Weird the Reynosa show has two mystery person and this one only has one – whoever is coming in as the rudo isn’t sticking around for both shows.

(I guessed Chris Hero might be one of the surprises on the last taping, so something where he could only work one show before flying to NOAH or something would make sense. Except, the closest NOAH tour starts on October 16th, prior to Reynosa tour. It’s their singles match league tournament, which Hero was in last year and could be in this year. It’d be impossible for him to be in AAA if he’s on that tour. So maybe we need another guess.)

I understand the travel limitations mean these these cards can’t have a variety of people but, if these double tapings are going to keep on happening, it’d be nice if there were something besides slightly different meaningless trios matches on back to back weeks of TV. The television product would be better if it felt like there were meaningful matches going on. Taya’s on both these shows, Taya’s had zero televised defenses in her year plus as champion, why not just have a Taya title defense against Faby on one of these shows? (There might be a problem getting a good finish, but AAA never has a probably doing a bad finish.) I’d assume the tag team title match is being saved for a reason, but they could do Psycho Clown versus any one on the rudo side in the same way. Good TV needs some special hook to happen one every show, and this is more the CMLL-like way of making boring TV then the Lucha Underground way of making something people have to check out each week.

This may be uneventful TV, but every match – except that semimain – has a chance of being very good and I’m interested in seeing it. Weirdly, the cycle of TV leading up to TripleMania appears to be the most boring section of TV this year. The TV prior was better, the TV leading to Heroes Inmortales looks good, and these shows leading to Guerra de Titanes will at least have some good matches.

No idea of when the next taping is, because this is far into the future. There should be 2 or 3 more tapings after this until Guerra de Titanes. The end of the year is already on the horizon.

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lucha TV preview for weekend of September 12th


I don’t know if I’m doing this week. I guess it depends on what state I’m in Thursday.

  • AAA is easy to call; Myzteziz’s first match on the rudo side and some promising undercard stuff.
  • ClaroSports has the return of Thunder. Sorry.
  • Mercurio/Astral on C3 is probably the best of the weekend CMLL stuff, though Virus/Dragon Lee might be pretty good too.

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AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-08

Averno gives Aero a push

Recapped: 08/16/2015

What happened that mattered? Cage challenged Alberto to a hair match and Alberto accepted. Hell Brothers are still feuding with Myzteziz. Holocuasto are still feuding with Psycho Circus. A month out, it’s arguable if the last two really mattered. They aired the tease of Myzteziz turning rudo from the press conference and mentioned Villano III’s retirement

Should I go back and watch anything? Maybe the opener, but I never saw it complete. The other matches are a long trios ending with a DQ and another silly Alberto/Cage match, both skippable

Where can I see it? This one’s now up on AAA’s YouTube channel, including the missing chunk of the opener.  (more…)

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AAA in Cancun, CMLL Guadalajara, TripleMania buys

CMLL (TUE) 09/08/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Joker & Sádico b Frezzer & Nautilius
2) Magnus, Molotov, Omar Brunetti b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Metálico
straight falls, with rudos being DQ for excessive violence in the first and Brunetti beating Metalico in the second.
3) Dark Angel, Marcela, Silueta b Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
Silueta replaced Lluvia. Dark Angel’s final match in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara. She submitted Amapola to the reinera.
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Super Porky b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
5) Negro Casas, Shocker, Último Guerrero b Atlantis, La Máscara, Volador Jr.
Negro caught Atlantis with a casita.
6) Marco Corleone b Mr. Niebla

Definite proof Marco is better than La Mascara. Neither Sombra & Atlantis are going in to the mask match with a lot of wins. (By the way, we’ve reached about the half way point of Rush & Sombra’s suspensions from wrestling in Guadalajara.)

Metalico talks about his Pedro Infante gimmick, says he never cheats. Probably shouldn’t be a rudo then. Is he going to be able to do this character if he loses his hair next week? That and Omar winning this week makes me think Metalico is not as sure a loser next week as I’d thought.

It’s not mentioned much, because it’s one of the shows I have to way of acquring, but these Tuesday Guadalajara shows are still airing on a couple of the Televisa channels. One of the announcers promotes the lineups occasionally, and it’s usually the top three matches airing.

CMLL Informa briefly touched on the LA Park situation about one hour and ten minutes into the show. It was during the Volador & Super Parka interview, who did not want to comment on the suspension publicly. They were hopeful the Familia Real trios match could still happen at some other Arena Mexico show down the road.

AAA has a TV taping today! They’re in Cancun for the first of two tapings in four days. Start time is listed as 8:30. The main event, and best chance for a good match, is Rey Misterio, Jack Evans, Anglieco versus Joe Lider, Myzteziz and Pentagon. There’s a good crew of luchadors on this shows, but there’s about one or two in every match who are not quite as good. The semimain is a good example: Cage, Pirata, Mesaias, Drago and Fenix all sound promising, but it hinges on how much La Parka helps or hurts.

There probably should be some setup for Heroes Inmortales but a) they don’t seem to be doing any set up for that show and b) this is sort of a vacation show anyway. (Promociones Juniors, the SLP local promoter for Heroes Inmortales, said they’d have that card out this week but haven’t yet posted it. Maybe they got a talking to.)

Not sure how the attendance is on this one. Cancun isn’t a regular stop, this is the first AAA taping in the city since 2008, but that might make fans more excited to finally get a TV show. The Hard Rock shows seem to do fine, but that’s a different crowd. One of the places I use to record AAA TV is the Televisa/GalaTV out of Cancun. That hasn’t been an option the last couple weeks, because the local baseball team made the playoffs and AAA’s been pre-empted to cover baseball instead. (It looks like that’ll happen this week too.) The first week AAA was off was the week the Cancun tapings were announced, so you wouldn’t be as aware of the show if you only followed the TV. The regular TV isn’t the only way to get the word – they got a lot of coverage when they did the press conference a few weeks ago – but it’s a bit of bad luck.

On the Bauer & Pollock show, Court Bauer said TripleMania PPV buys “exceeded all expectations, before refunds”, topping recent TNA & ROH shows and close to what the NJPW Tokyo Dome show drew (which Bauer was surprised by.)  He didn’t give a number of what they did, but said expectations were 1,500-2000 given the visibility of AAA in US/Canada. They have no info on how many refunds yet, and he fully expects there to be a massive amount. Bauer says it’s possible they might do an AAA US PPV again, but it’s not likely in the near future – they’re not going to do it without everyone sure production will go perfectly and they have a great card. Bauer specifically said Heroes Inmortales will not be a PPV (though he believes that’ll have a better card than TripleMania) and it generally came off like we should not be holding our breath for the next one.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Pagano lost the second half of his doubleheader on Sunday, losing in Arena Coliseo Monterrey to LA Park after a Nicho weapon shot. Hijo del Lizmark did not show for the semifinal.

Kcidis sums up LA Park’s CMLL run.

The Gladiatores looks back at Adrenalina.

SuperLuchas looks back at a one night tag tournament.

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great match roundup, week of 2015-08-08

Extra long week, with a couple shows overlapping.

rating matches TV Show taped
great Shockercito, Stukita, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia CMLL on 2015-08-14 2015-08-14
good Fantasy & Último Dragoncito vs Mercurio & Pierrothito CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-08 2015-08-04
good Black Tiger & Rey Samuray vs Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-10 2015-08-10
good Lestat, Stigma, Tritón vs Okumura, Puma, Tiger CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-10 2015-08-10
good Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-10 2015-08-10
good Magnus & Soberano Jr. vs Cancerbero & Raziel CMLL on 2015-08-14 2015-08-14
good Boby Zavala vs Disturbio in a En Busca de un Idolo match CMLL on 2015-08-14 2015-08-14
good Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Esfinge in a En Busca de un Idolo match CMLL on 2015-08-14 2015-08-14
ok Aerostar, Argenis, Myzteziz vs Averno, Chessman, Cibernético AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-08 2015-07-10
ok El Patrón Alberto vs Brian Cage, El Mesías in a bull terrier match AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-08 2015-07-10
ok Volador Jr. vs La Máscara CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-08 2015-07-24
ok Estrellita, Lluvia, Skadi vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-08 2015-07-24
ok Diamante Azul, Shocker, Último Guerrero vs Marco Corleone, Rey Escorpión, Thunder in a relevos increíbles match CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-08 2015-07-24
ok Hombre Bala Jr., Oro Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Okumura, Sangre Azteca CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-08 2015-08-04
ok Blue Panther, Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-08 2015-08-04
ok Stuka Jr., Titán, Tritón vs Cavernario, Felino, Gran Guerrero CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-08 2015-08-04
ok Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Mephisto CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-08 2015-08-04
ok Ángel de Oro © vs Pólvora for the CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-10 2015-08-10
ok Atlantis, Mistico, Rush vs Felino, Mephisto, Terrible CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-10 2015-08-10
ok Último Guerrero vs Rey Escorpión CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-10 2015-08-10
ok Mistico, Super Porky, Volador Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión CMLL on 2015-08-14 2015-08-14
ok Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente vs La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush CMLL on 2015-08-14 2015-08-14
not rated Monsther Clown & Murder Clown vs Electroshock & Hijo de Pirata Morgan and Australian Suicide & Jack Evans and Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-08 2015-07-10

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CMLL talks about LA Park, Astral keeps his title, AAA in Pachuca

CMLL (TUE) 09/08/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Bengala & Leono b Apocalipsis & El Rebelde
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Canelo Casas, Nitro, Raziel b Pegasso, Starman, Stigma
Nitro beat Pegasso.
3) Astral © b Mercurio [CMLL MINI]
Seconds were Mini Olimpico & Starman. Astarl took falls 1/3 to retain, using Mercurio’s own package piledriver to win.
4) Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Boby Zavala, Okumura, Puma
Boby Zavala replaced Kamaitachi on Friday. Guerrero Maya beat Puma for the win.
5) Fuego, The Panther, Tritón b Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
Triton defeated Cavernario in straight falls and challenged for a title shot. Cavernario accepted for next week.
6) Dragon Lee, Máximo, Valiente b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
National trios champions took the loss, with Valiente beating Mephisto.

The big CMLL news of the day was elsewhere. LA Park being pulled from lineups became a big enough story that  CMLL actually explained it: Park disrespected the public and broke the rules of the promotion. It’s not said, but it’s pretty clear Park closing remarks (on what could be done with the fan’s mothers) are what got him fired. The statement says Park apologized and CMLL would consider booking him again, though does not have him booked at this time.

There’s push back from some fans on social media because they want lucha libre to be a place where someone can say that on the microphone, but that’s just not going to the kind of style CMLL is going to promote.

On Twitter, LA Park has said “words never cause anyone to bleed“, to say this shouldn’t have been treated as a big deal. Alfredo speculated if Claro Sports, who broadcast the show, could’ve been angry about what LA Park said. Claro did not post video of the show after posting the complete main event (but sometimes websites are just that random.) Meanwhile, on the weird CMLL mailing list people who bought the PPV were subscribed to without being told (not good!), CMLL official Rosalio Vera says LA Park also hit a fan, which LA Park has denied.

Park was probably going to be done either on the Anniversary show or a week after – he was there to tease the Rush match, and that’s not happening until March at the soonest. If either side stays sane and doesn’t start going after each other, LA Park will probably be back. It’s wrestling, so there’s no guarantee they’ll stay sane.

Not sure when the press release on Flyer missing Friday’s show is coming.

In other news, LA Park confirms he’s not Hulk Hogan.

AAA (TUE) 09/08/2015 Arena Aficion [Funcion Estelar]
1) Diosa Atenea & Zuzu Divine b Princesa Mohicana & Xena
2) Bart Simpson & Homero Simpson b Minion Morada I & Minion Morada II
3) Gotita de Plata, Goya Kong, Niño Hamburguesa DQ Concord, Machine Rocker, Taya
Holocausto (Electro, Pirata and Parka) ran in for the DQ to transition into the next match
4) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown b Electroshock, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra
5) Averno & Pentagón Jr. b Fénix & Myzteziz
Myzteziz hit Fenix with a chair as he was going for the dive to give the tencicos the win. Myzteziz again said he was not interested in being in any faction.

AAA spot show results are rare. They’re also, for reasons never explained, always running storylines months behind what’s on TV. Here, we get Holocausto being still a thing (though TV seemed to send Pirata with Daga & Pain) and Myzteziz still being programmed on the tecnico side. Crowd was good, much better than the local shows and a bit better than the usual CMLL show here, but not a sell out.

AAA’s caught up their YouTube feed to last week’s TV show. It’s the UTDN version, but the only extra material is a long recap of TripleMania. You really should watch the Aerostar/Steve Pain trios.

El Hijo del Santo told a fan he’ll have news of a new show on October 5, and implied it’d be in Leon. He’s mentioned running return shows prior, but nothing’s happened yet.

There hasn’t been much news or progress about any of the laws proposed following the death of Perro Aguayo. A boxing column in Sispe updates the WBC plan. The World Boxing Council, back in April, proposed they’d run a national commission on wrestling and would put Hijo del Santo in charge. This column says the rumors are this would only be half the plan – the WBC would also take over as the national boxing commission, pushing everyone else out and giving the group full control of boxing in the country. In that context, the wrestling is a secondary concern though Santo in charge would still make everyone crazy. There’s no sense of any progress on any of this; I wouldn’t expect it to be coming any time soon.

On the Casanova Pro show in Monterrey, Charles Lucero defeated Silver Star for the UWA Middleweight Championship (a title that always somehow ends up back in Silver Star’s hands.) Guerrero Mixitco, wrestling Rico Rodriguez on the show, appeared to be drunk and had a horrible match.

The new Odessa Steps magazine has interviews with Marco Corleone, Hechicero and Zeuxis.

RobViper has a music video of 04/04/15

Segunda Caida reviews Fuerza Guerrera, Emilio Charles Jr., La Fiera vs Hijo del Santo, Mascara Sagrada and Misterioso.

El Pancracio has pieces on Super Astro Jr. and Septiembre Negro.

SuperLuchas looks back at Tarzan Lopez’s retirement.

A recap of Ciclope & Violento Jack’s tour of Japan.


IWRG (SUN) 09/13/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Emperador Azteca, Metaleón, Mr. Leo vs Acero, Imposible, Picudo Jr.
2) Freelance, Leo, Mike, Rafy vs El Hijo del Diablo, Golepador, Oficial AK47, Rayan
3) Hijo del Pantera, Pantera, Súper Nova vs Black Terry, Relámpago, Suicida
4) Oficial 911 vs Eterno
5) Danny Casas, Máscara Sagrada, Veneno vs Negro Navarro, Pirata Morgan, Shu el Guerrero
6) Hijo De Dos Caras vs X-Fly [IWRG IC HEAVY]
sixth defense for Dos

Dos hasn’t been in IWRG much. IWRG is inherently random, but it would make sense for X-Fly to win the title in this match.

Looks like no Wednesday show this week.

CMLL (TUE) 09/15/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Reycko vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Gallo, Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
3) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther vs Boby Zavala, El Cuatrero, Sansón
4) Omar Brunetti vs Metálico [hair]
5) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
6) Máximo, Super Porky, Valiente vs Euforia, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Still not sure why this isn’t a Wednesday show. Maybe there’s something else going on in Guadalajara? It does mean a few guys are working both ‘Tuesday’ shows. Omar remains the favorite in the hair match.

Note the Cien Caras sons are back in the tercera.

CMLL (WED) 09/16/2015 Arena México
1) La Vaquerita & Skadi vs La Seductora & Reyna Isis
2) Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Kamaitachi, Okumura, Virus
3) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Titán vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
4) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
5) Cavernario © vs Tritón [MEX WELTER]
Cavernario’s first defense
6) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Triton’s an underdog, but just getting a title match is a big moment for him. He’s ascended to the Stuka/Fuego level where CMLL might remember to do something with him every year or so. The match should be great too. Show is an early time of 5pm, which actually makes it even more impossible for our group to make it there. Hope I manage to record it.

That opener looks, uh, very challenging.

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10/17 AAA TV Lineup (Reynosa) – debut of Speedball?


AAA TV (SAT) 10/17/2015 Gimnasio de la Universidad Autonoma de Tamaulipas, Reynosa, Tamaulipas
1) Faby Apache, Karateka Jr., Pimpinela Escarlata vs Gigga, Perfil, Unico Jr., Taya
1) Faby Apache, Magnifico, Mr. 450, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Gigga,Imagen De Oro, Imagen Ii, Taya
2) Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Speedball vs Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Steve Pain
3) La Parka, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown vs Averno, Chessman, Cibernético
4) ?, Angélico, Jack Evans vs ??, Hijo del Fantasma, Texano
5) Psycho Clown & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Johnny Mundo & Myzteziz

Air Date: this is well in the future, so I’ll put down “10/31” but it could shift a week either direction. Likely a one week taping.

Someone messed up; this is a post Heroes Inmortales lineup no one was supposed to see for three weeks more, at least. (@JtSol13so was the first person I saw who had it on Twitter.) There are no storyline giveaways – because there are very few storylines to give away right now – there’s are new names coming out.

The Speedball in the segunda is surely “Speedball” Mike Bailey, rising Canadian indy star of the moment. He’s a high flyer/kicker with a background in taekwondo who’s gotten over in PWG as an undersized fighter. He’s working a lot of well known indies, but it’s in PWG where he had a great match agaisnt Chris Hero which might be the reason he made it here. Konnan raved about that particular match on his own podcast and on the Wrestling Observer one. He’s teaming with Aerostar & Suicide against the maybeAnarakia trio in what should be a great match.

(Note AAA now has a Speedball and a Fireball. One short of a ball trio. Speedball has a masked alterego which might work better here, but not sure AAA would’ve seen that or if he’d just prefer to be unmasked.)

We don’t know who’s in the semifinals. That spot on the card suggest these are people of significance. AAA usually debuts new people and then lists them as surprises for the next couple of tapings, so we may know who these people are by the time Heroes Inmortales takes place (or even by the time the card is announced.) It stands to reason that if the Bailey/Hero match got one guy a spot, it might have gotten the other one a spot as well.

The blue names in the opener are local Reynosa guys to fill out the card. Karateka is from Matamoros, the other three show up in Reynosa. Perfil and Unico Jr. are two different people, so they’re missing a name on the tecnico side. It’s the dark match/maybe interent only match if they’re still doing those.

Edit 3:40pm: There’s a new poster floating around with different names for the opener

  • Mr. 450 is an ex Chicago indy guy who’s been in Puerto Rico (and is currently WWC’s world champ heading into a match with Carlito.) He’s also recently appeared on NXT as a jobber recently. It’s odd AAA would fly him in just to work openers – they have luchadors in Reynosa who could do that – but maybe he’s coming to Mexico on his own or for other reasons and he just picked up more work: he’s also listed on as working in Hidalgo the night prior
  • there’s a Magnifico in Reynosa, not to be confused with the 300 other Magnificos
  • Imagen II has been around Reynosa since at least the turn of the century, appeared on TV tapings back around then. Imagen de Oro often teams with him.

Myzteziz & Rey are still going to be rivals, which means Johnny Mundo may mostly fight Psycho Clown. That’ll be an amazing thing. It’s kind of strange Johnny Mundo ends up working TV tapngs and not TripleMania. I fully support the idea of La Parka replacing Psycho Clown in the circus, those three guys belong together.

AAA uses the just about the same roster when they run two tapings in a short period of time, so this group of people will probably be in slightly different matches in Nuevo Laredo two days later.

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