CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-08-08 

Forastero tope

Recapped: 08/14/2017

Matches: 

Acero & Aéreo beat Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
(12:40 [5:38, 3:14, 3:48], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany
(9:11 [5:59, 1:02, 2:10], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Rey Cometa beat Forastero in a lightning match
(6:54, huracanrana roll thru, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno beat Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr.
(11:31 [4:10, 2:35, 4:46], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Titán
(13:55 [4:09, 5:09, 4:37], 1/3. n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero beat Mistico, Rush, Valiente  
(9:17 [2:15, 1:48, 5:14], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

this is how Niebla Roja’s year has been going

Último Guerrero feuded with Mistico. UG had Mistico beat after the front superplex, but Rush pulled Tirantes away. Rush simply unmasked Mistico and pinned him anyway. They teased a singles match for next week, which is not happening yet.

Niebla Roja clearly uses the bottom rope to beat Terrible in the second fall of the semimain, though nothing comes of it and it’s probably just a mistake. Luciferno reverse a huracanrana into a Styles Clash for the win the same way in consecutive matches.

Thoughts: 

slide kick

An easy a Tuesday recommendation as it comes. This wasn’t much deeper than a cool spot move fest but they were really cool. Forastero – and all the NGD – are benefiting a bit from the Nuevo part of their name. They’re fresh, so their sharp moves stand out more than ones seen a hundred times already. I’m not sure if we’ve seen the roll into the sliding one foot kick to face from Forastero before, but I wasn’t expecting it and unexpected wrestling sequences are more interesting to watch. His dives looks cool and he took Cometa’s well. Cometa is getting more charismatic as he gets older; he seems like a guy who’s going to figure out a way to stay entertaining even as his body begins to betray him. The reversal finish here was a nice surprise and I could stand to see these two fight a few more times.

Black Dragon unmasks Gallo Frances, Zeuxis 2nd title match tonight, Alberto

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 08/13/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)The Gladiatores]
1) Atomic Star b Fly Tiger
2) Climax & Shaolin b Demonio Infernal & Skanda
3) Bombero Infernal & Bombero Infernal Jr. b Eterno & Lunatic Xtreme
Eterno used the ropes. He and Bombero Infernal continued to fight backstage.
4) Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro b Argos & Dr. Karonte
5) Hijo del Pantera DQ Emperador Azteca
Pantera tricked Azteca into being DQ.
6) Herodes Jr., Internacional Pantera, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Dinamic Black, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras
Mascara pulled Dos’ mask and cradled him for the win.
7) Gallo Frances b Black Dragón [mask]
Gallo Frances was unmasked as Jérôme Motta, 35, 15 years a wrestler from Lyon, France.

Main event looks like the typically dramatic IWRG mask match. Gallo Frances is also known as Jerry Motta & Jerry Snake.

CMLL (SUN) 08/13/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CMLL (highlights)]
1) Artillero & Espanto Jr. b Bengala & Sonic
2) Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Nitro b Astral, Oro Jr., Sensei
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Johnny Idol, Pegasso, Stigma
4) Zeuxis b Marcela [CMLL-REINA INTL] Campeonato Internacional CMLL-REINA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Marcela vs Zeuxis por el campeonato CMLL Reina (posted by TvRegeneracion)
Zeuxis took falls 2/3, the last with the La Roca package piledriver, to win the vacant title. She’s announced as going to Japan in October.
5) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Valiente DQ Cuatrero, Hechicero, Sansón
Sanson fouled and unmasked Angel de Oro
6) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Pierroth
Pierroth replaced Shocker (so CMLL had to relent on no father vs son for the night.)

The second video link has a slightly longer version of highlights for the title match.

Zeuxis has her second title match in as many days, tonight in Arena Puebla. She beat Marcela for the vacant CMLL-REINA International championship, and she faces rival Princesa Sugehit tonight for the Mexican Women’s Championship. CMLL usual booking philosophy is they’ve already done the one title change to build up this feud (when Sugehit beat Zeuxis) so they probably won’t do another one at least until after the mask match – but two title wins in two days would be a good story. They’ve have good matches during this feud and this shouldn’t be different.

The main event is another rematch, with Caristico, Marco and Mistico against Diamante Azul, Ultimo Guerrero and Negro Casas. That seems to be setting up Azul vs Marco, possibly for the heavyweight title. Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja are opposite sides of a trios match once again, this time in the semimain with Angel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Sam Adonis, and Euforia rounding out the match. If you think you haven’t seen Johnny Idol much, you’re correct; his last YouTube appearance was about three weeks ago, and you have to go back to June for an appearance on a non-Tuesday show. Idol hasn’t been on a Friday show since January, though that streak should end soon.

The Panthers & Soberano face the Invasors in another rematch from last week. In the surprise of Morphosis actually showing up last week, I didn’t think about the other thing going on with him: he wrestled the whole match in his mask, which he lost back on Christmas. Morphosis’ only other YouTube match of the year was in June, where he started the match masked but unmasked during it. I guess he “forgot” to do last week. We’ll see what happens this week, or if maybe something else is going on. (Technically, Morphosis is a different character than Histeria, but he gave up wearing the Morphosis outfit years ago and just wrestles in a Histeria one.)

Second match is a rare straight Puebla vs DF match, with Lestat & Espiritu Maligno against Disturbio & Metalico. They usually only run those matches when they’re setting something up, but there’s plenty of other stuff happening on this show. It may just be numbers. The opener is an equally strange match of tecnicos versus tecnicos, with Millenium & Paris facing Centella Roja and his son. The show airs on YouTube at 09pm.

GFW announced that Alberto el Patron has been stripped of their championship. He remains indefinitely suspended. GFW hints at some conditions Alberto has to meet before he’ll be suspended; it stands to reason he’s probably not expected to meet those conditions by their next taping on Thursday if they’re stripping him of the title. I was skeptical of this suspension being anything more than PR, but it looks like they were serious about it.

Last week, the WON mentioned Alberto and The Crash were no longer working together. They hadn’t worked together this year except for Alberto doing a promo on the Mexico City show to set up a match with Carlito that never happened, but perhaps he was in the plans to be used on the 09/02 show with the usual names not around because of BOLA. Alberto still seems to be working with Tinieblas’ FULL promotion (September 17th in Tlaxcala) and MDA. Last month, Alberto told SI that he was defending the GFW title at TripleMania and there was a lineup floating around with Alberto defending against Lashley. Lashley was announced in Copa TripleMania instead, and maybe AAA had been told Alberto wouldn’t be champion by TripleMania in advance.

Imagen Deportes has a video story on Arena Azteca Budokan.

Lucha Underground posted a Rey Mysterio fact sheet.

Hip Hop Man, La Mosca, and El Pibe won the Arena Azteca Budokan trios titles on the Hip Hop Man anniversary show. They beat Yakuza, Kamikaze and Hanaoka, so hopefully that means Hanaoka’s injury in the La Llave a La Gloria tryouts wasn’t so bad.

The Crash’s poster for a show in Toluca (no date) includes Rey Mysterio.

Lineups

CMLL (SUN) 08/20/2017 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Starman vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca
3) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Dragón Lee, Juice Robinson, Rush vs Pólvora, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Diamante Azul, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mephisto, Negro Casas

CMLL sees Taven as a bigger start than Juice – which makes sense from a Mexican perspective, since this is Taven’s third time in and Juice is new.

Sanson/Angel de Oro rematch, so good chance they’re headed to the title match in a couple weeks.

CMLL (SUN) 08/20/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Amperage & Avispón Negro Jr. vs Destructor & Stress
2) Cosmos & El Yaqui vs Linterna & Relámpago Azul
3) Príncipe Kisho & Terremoto King Jr. vs Gran Kenut & León Blanco
4) Esfinge, Magnum, Neutrón vs Difunto, Pitbull I, Ráfaga
5) Espectrúm vs Guerrero de la Muerte [hair]

My expert analysis is “uh, maybe Guerrero de la Muerte wins, I don’t really know.”

CMLL Puebla: 2017-08-07 

Mije

Recapped: 08/10/2017

Matches: 

Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja beat Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika
(17:38 [7:27, 6:06, 4:05], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Black Tiger, Lestat, Robin beat El Malayo, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana
(14:05 [5:40, 4:43, 3:42], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Comandante & Zeuxis beat La Vaquerita & Princesa Sugehit  
(11:28 [7:22, 4:06], 1/2, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther  went to a draw against  Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico
(14:56 [4:05, 3:15, 7:36], rudos 1/tecnicos 2/DCOR 3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto © beat Stuka Jr. for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship
(12:10, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Mephisto roll counter cradle (3:25)

  2. Stuka huracanrana roll thru (1:08)

  3. Mephisto super devil’s wings (7:37)

Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero beat Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico in a relevos increíbles match
(11:40 [5:38, 1:29, 4:33], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Stuka snake style moonsault

Diamante Azul worked rudo, snuck in a foul on Marco Corleone, and grabbed the bottom rope. They’re setting up a title match, but not quite yet.

Tirantes got taken out about five minutes into third fall of the title match. Mephsito immediately lands the Devil’s Wings for the certain three count, but Tirantes doesn’t recover quickly enough to count. Mephisto yells at Tirantes, then turns around into a fireman’s drop from Stuka. Stuka lands the torpedo splash but Mephisto kicks out at two. Stuka’s next move is to set up Mephisto on top, but Mephisto stops Stuka as he climbs up and drops him with a super Devil’s Wings for the win.

The rudas won in straight falls without a problem, setting up a Sugehit/Zeuxis title match for next week.

Psicosis/Ripper said Morphosis would be coming with him to TripleMania, but he’s still appearing in CMLL as usual for now. Everyone was too busy brawling outside after a second set of tecnico dives, causing the third fall countout. It’s the second draw in four weeks on this show.

Thoughts: 

The title match was a basic title match done well. The fake out ref bump things was clever, but the match itself was them going thru a lot of their normal trios spots and adding nothing much extra or different for a singles match. They’re effective in what they do, but not especially creative outside of playing off that cliched ending. That’s really Mephisto & Stuka’s style, and in was unsurprising how predicable the match turned out to be.

Zeuxis new REINA champ, DTU w/Freelance/GALLI

CMLL (SAT) 08/12/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito
2) El Coyote, Metálico, Sangre Azteca b Fiero, Oro Jr., Star Jr.
Coyote replaced Arkangel
3) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Drone, Fuego, Pegasso
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. b Sagrado [lightning]
5) Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone b Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible

A show. The Tuesday Guadalajara results also got posted on Saturday, and they were also just a normal show. Euforia unmasked Diamante Azul in the main event to set up their title match.

Tonight in Guadalajara, Espectrum and Guerrero de la Muerte set up a hair match for next week.

CMLL hasn’t posted results from tonight’s Arena Mexico show as of the time I’m writing this, but they upload highlights of Zeuxis defeating Marcela for the vacant REINA International Championship. She’ll be going to that promotion in October.

In IWRG, Black Dragon unmasked Gallo Frances as expected. Gallo Frances was unmasked as Jerome Motta, 35, 15 years a wrestler from Lyon, France. I couldn’t find any more info on him via cagematch or wrestlingdata, so I guess he must normally wrestle under another name.

Chicago promotions Freelance & GALLI announced they’ll be working with DTU later this year. Freelance says Matt Knicks, Stevie Fierce, and Isaias Velazquez are headed to Mexico in November. GALLI says DTU luchadors will also be coming there and Freelance that month.

This seems similar to the deal DTU has with GCW, which has now led to some DTU shows turning up on SmartMarkVideo. They’re selling the complete June Pachuca & Queretaro shows as one download, and the July Guadalajara & San Luis Potosi in another. Each are $12. These are the only full DTU shows to be released this year – so, while you might not know the Freelance guys (they’re all solid from what I’ve seen), maybe they’ll record shows again when they come in November, or the GCW guys will in September. It shouldn’t really take a US promotion coming to Mexico to bring a camera to these shows to be taped and made available in full, and it’s another instance of Mexican indie promotions being staggeringly behind the rest of the world, but beggers can’t be choosers. These deals are good news for fans of DTU.

Indy Nation say they’ll be returning to IWRG on August 30th.

Mary Apache won the High Speed Championship in Stardom on 08/13.  She celebrated with her children.

Generacion 21’s show on 09/11 has a typically loaded card, and the odd team of Marco Corleone, Sam Adonis and AAA’s Hernandez. Hernandez seems to have a deal with AAA where he’s allowed to work wherever when he’s not on TV.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Lineups

CMLL (SAT) 08/19/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Sangre Imperial & Sonic vs Grako & Yago
2) Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei vs Akuma, Artillero, Espanto Jr.
3) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito
4) Rey Cometa vs Virus [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
6) Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven vs Hechicero, Pierroth, Shocker

Pierroth and Shocker are heavyweights and Shocker speaks English so CMLL thinks they’re swell opponents for Robinson and Taven. This is not a savvy judgement call.

IWRG (SUN) 08/20/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Climax vs Lunatic Xtreme
2) Látigo & Shaolin vs Harry The Sick & Taylor Wolf
3) Hijo del Alebrije vs Villano III Jr.ImposibleDanny CasasVillano V Jr.Diablo Jr.Hijo del PanteraHijo De Dos CarasEternoRelámpagoDinamic BlackDragón FlyCerebro NegroAramisTrauma IGolden MagicPantera IAceroTrauma IIInternacional PanteraGallo FrancesAlas de AceroWarrior Jr.Bombero InfernalEmperador AztecaVenenoMáscara Año 2000 Jr.FreelanceEl Hijo del DiabloHerodes Jr. [Gran Cruzada]

This 30 man battle royal gives someone a title shot in their weight division for winning. It could be anyone, but it’s IWRG, so it’s probably a big guy.

La Llave a La Gloria semifinal, CMLL continues towards Anniversario, Canada preferred LU country

america

CMLL (FRI) 08/11/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Culticonthecubsfan]
1) Mercurio & Pierrothito b Shockercito & Stukita LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:44. rudos took 1/3.
2) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther b Disturbio, Puma, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:59. tecnicos took 1/3
3) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:36. Rudas took 2/3. Zeuxis pulled Sugehit’s mask to win, and they agreed to a mask match.
4) Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis b Carístico, Soberano Jr., Valiente LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:11. Rudos took 2/3 after Adonis hit Caristico with the flagpole from outside. Cavernario argued with Adonis over the flag and Adonis attacked him, which eventually led to everyone beating up Adonis.
5) Diamante Azul b Rush LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:56. Azul took 2/3. Rush was DQed for smashing a piece of plasterboard over Diamante Azul’s head. Azul pinned him clean in the third.
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Niebla Roja b Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:45. Straight falls, Gran DQed for unmasking Niebla Roja. They agreed to a mask match after.

CMLL continued on to it’s apuesta matches matches. They’re very clear that Gran Guerrero/Niebla Roja is happening on 09/16, and what else happens still doesn’t seem to be clear. Even as sure as Roja/GG is as happening, they’re not bringing up it being the main event, just on the show.

Azul/Rush seemed like a test to see if it would work on the Anniversary show rather than specifically building towards it. They were working like something important was on the line, and not like it was a Tuesday show they couldn’t get done quickly enough. It looks like the 09/16 possibilities are Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero in the main and Zeuxis & Sugehit in the fourth match, or Diamante Azul/Rush in the main and Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero in the fourth. I think the first possibility are better matches but the fans are likely to be more accepting of the second one.

The Adonis thing was probably to set up a united Mexico versus the World leading into the Gran Prix next week.

AAA held the semifinals of it’s La Llave a la Gloria tournament today. They held twelve matches, and all of them are watchable on their Facebook page. On his Facebook page, Vampiro said there were 72 people trying out. I haven’t gone back and counted, but that seems about right – and means that a couple dozen people got in outside of tryouts.

AAA says the winners will be announced on Wednesday in Record. We still don’t know what the winners exactly will be. AAA announced various things at the press conference, mostly pointing towards either one winner or one winner in each category, but they do need opponents to face. My guess is it’ll be actually six winners (two men, two women and two men as minis) for a trios match, but no one knows.

Roshfrans posted a La Llave a la Gloria recap video on YouTube. It’s nice, but it has a whole 19 views and I think at least 3 of them are mine.

TLN in Canada is now ahead of El Rey on airing Lucha Underground episodes. TLN had been airing up to 3 episodes a night of Season 3, since starting the season in May. Apparently, El Rey/LU must’ve sent them the full 40 episodes, because they’re airing the episodes before El Rey gets them on air. That’s usually not permitted in these sort of international syndication deals, and this is probably a simple goof up, but LU simple goof ups have a way of not getting fixed. I’ve looked around and haven’t seen the episodes which aired last night – the semifinals and finals of the Cueto Cup – probably because not many people thought to look for them to be airing. I suspect later episodes will turn up TLN continues airing in advance.

Lucha Underground did post a video of Marty Elias explaining the rules, which are helpful to know 90 episodes into a wrestling series

This is a quiet weekend of lucha shows

Saturday

Sunday

Kcids draws Gran Guerrero vs Niebla Roja.

Lineups

CMLL (FRI) 08/18/2017 Arena México
1) Astral & Robin vs Cholo & Espíritu Negro
2) Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr.
3) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs La Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Ephesto, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto
6) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Juice Robinson, Marco CorleoneMatt Taven

Main event is listed as tecnicos vs tecnicos. Taven was a tecnico last time we saw, but it’s also more of a Mexico vs the World thing. Juice is probably so beat up by NJPW’s G1 that he may be on vacation mode here.

The other feuds continues on in the 5th and 3rd matches. Cholo’s still around after losing his hair.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-08-11 

if the tope doesn’t get Rush angry, the drink definitely will


Recapped: 08/11/2017

Matches:

Mercurio & Pierrothito beat Shockercito & Stukita
(13:44 [4:54, 3:41, 5:09], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther beatDisturbio, Puma, Tiger
(13:59 [4:05, 3:35, 6:19], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis beat Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta
(13:36 [5:39, 2:27, 5:30], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis beat Carístico, Soberano Jr., Valiente
(15:11 [7:04, 3:14, 4:53], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Diamante Azul beat  Rush
(10:56, Arena México, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Rush corner dropkick (1:52)
  2. DQ Rush plasterboard (2:58)
  3. Diamante Azul German suplex (6:06)

Dragón Lee, Mistico, Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
(10:45, 1/2 DQ, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

What happened: 

this was insane

Niebla Roja and Gran Guerrero feuded heavily during their match, with Gran Guerrero unmasking Niebla Roja for the straight fall loss. Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja agreed to sign contracts for a mask match next week before Gran Guerrero unmasked Niebla Roja again.

Princesa Sugehit & Zeuxis also agreed on a mask match, though they set no date. Zeuxis picked up the win this week with a mask pull, after both earlier so destroyed each other’s masks that they had to take an unofficial time out to fix them.

Sam Adonis hit Carístico with his flagpole to set up a Cavernario win in the fourth match. Cavernario didn’t seem happen with Adonis and threw down the USA flag post match. Adonis attacked Cavernario, Negro Casas attacked Adonis and got the flag pole and everyone ended up stomping down Adonis. This was possibly a Carístico/Adonis tease for Japan, since both they and Diamante will be in AJPW by this time next week.

Rush was pinned cleanly by Diamante Azul – well, he was yelling at Edgar and didn’t see Azul coming to grab him for a German suplex, that’s close enough. No challenges were made after the match, though Rush suggested the possible of an Anniversary match on commentary.

Juice Robinson and Matt Taven were announced as appearing next week.

Thoughts: 

when you have one thing that’s working, just keep running with it until someone stops you

An overall good show. I had couple matches rated OK, but the show in it’s enterity was enjoyable and went by well. It was better than it looked as a lineup.

The main event was the most effective Niebla Roja and Gran Guerrero have been so far. They went after each other hard and Niebla Roja showed more fire (by doing not much more than one move he does well many times.) They were handicapped a little bit doing a bit of crowd brawling after Diamante Azul & Rush did a lot of crowd brawling. The bigger problem is it comes off as the third most important técnico feuding with maybe the third important rudo in every one of these matches. Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero work work as a main event of a lesser show or a lesser match on a main show, but there’s not enough here to make it a main event of the Anniversary show and everyone knows it. They’ve got four more Fridays to find it, but it doesn’t feel like it’s happening.

Diamante Azul versus Rush probably does have enough to be the main event of an Anniversary show, and they were working like this singles match was an audition for this spot. It still wasn’t great, but it was much better than what they’ve delivered before in a watered down version of Rush’s matches with LA Park. It’s weird the much older and much heavier LA Park has a bigger tank than Diamante Azul, and Rush here didn’t put exactly the same effort, but it was better than usual. There wasn’t enough here for me to want to see that match on the big stage but CMLL hasn’t left themselves with a lot of options.

I expect this to happen to me every time I go to Mexico

Something with Adonis seems like the only other option, and the post match set up all sorts of interesting possibilities. The trip to Japan is ill timed to work any of them out, and it seems like it’d be almost too late to do anything by the time he and Carisitco are back, but I guess we’ll see if anything settled by then. The match itself was the weakest of the night for me, btu the post match made it worthwhile.

Zeuxis/Princesa Sugehit is definitely happening and yet still seems unclear. JCR teased it for the Anniversary show and it may be, but not giving a date is another thing that suggests CMLL still didn’t have their plans locked in before tonight. They actually seem to be taking less of the matches as it goes on, but the mask ripping came off serious. Maravilla wrestles impressively, but is clearly meant to be the least important woman on any tecnica trio right now and we may have a long wait before we see her in anything beyond those trios. She’s ready now. Silueta had an iffy night, with things derailing badly at the end of the second. Dalys was all over the place in this match.

The Panthers and the Casas brothers continue to have good matches with whoever they’re teaming with. This wasn’t quite their peak, but it was pretty good. Puma & Tiger have teamed up with Disturbio enough that they’ve adapted their own finishing sequence to work in his double knee smash. Esfinge seemed to disappear on me for long periods of time but looked sharp in the third fall. Blue Panther Jr.’s backbreakers land awfully to me, but he might as well keep doing as long as the multiple ones get a strong reaction.

The minis match was a higher end match for both minis and the opener; the Shockercito monkey flip into a huracanrara was more exciting in 10 seconds than most of these matches are in 15. Mercurio even did a new taunt (even if it was the same Dragon Ball fireball bit people have been doing for a decade.) this warmed up the show well.

Gran getting him up was as impressive as throwing Niebla Roja hard

CMLL tonight, The Crash in SLP, La Llave a La Gloria wraps tomorrow

tonight (and that Cavernario photo is always welcome)

The Crash (THU) 08/10/2017 Domo de San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí [El Sabor del Ring]
1) Aero Kid, Androide, Belcebu b Cancerbero, Gran Amenaza, Súper Kiss
locals match
2) Látigo, Pegasuz, Tiago b Astrolux, Rayo Star, Rey Celestial (Puebla)
money thrown in
3) Keira © b La MagnificaChik TormentaDiosa Quetzal [The Crash WOMEN]
Both Magnifica & Quetzal replaced Lady Maravilla. Keria beat Quetzal to retain the title.
4) Drastik Boy, Flamita, Jack Evans b Bestia 666, Demus 3:16, Hijo de Pirata Morgan
Draztick Boy replaced Rey Horuz. Bestia & Jack fueded.
5) Daga & Zorro DQ Garza Jr. & Último Ninja
everyone (referee included) fouled everyone before the DQ was called.
6) Blue Demon Jr., Rey Mysterio 619, The King (Rey Fenix) b La Máscara, M-ximo, Rey Escorpión (Indie)

This was a big building (11K) and they filled a lot of it. Like every other promotion, the photos they sent out were carefully chosen and it wasn’t quite as packed on other sides of the arena, but I’m thinking this might be the biggest attendance they’ve had for a show so far. Tickets were reasonable prices, 100 to 350 pesos.

MicromanFever has a recap of Garza Jr.’s interview Fuego en el RIng. Garza says some interesting stuff, and makes the case that The Crash having a TV show or even full matches on YouTube is not that important in 2017, highlights are enough. This is a worthy debate, except the most recent highlights The Crash have posted are from March. The Crash is farther behind on The Crash shows than I am.

Garza Jr. said he and Fenix are headed to NOAH for a week at the end of September, and then they’ll stay for two months if they get over. That doesn’t quite make sense, especially with both of them booked in Torreon in October, but it’ll come out in the wash.

Today’s CMLL show is one of those times where I’m more preoccupied by what we can learn about CMLL going forward than any of the matches actually happening today. I’m wondering about one of the feuds. It’s not the Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero one, though that’s the main event. It’s not really the Diamante Azul/Rush one, though it plays into it. It’s the Princesa Sugehit versus Zeuxis mask match rivalry, the longest running of all of the and the one where both people have been pointing towards the Anniversary show first. We might find out if they’re actually getting to it tonight.

Last year’s Gran Prix featured both the 8v8 main event, but also an excellent Cavernario versus Rey Cometa hair versus hair match underneath. There probably will be a space for an apuesta match underneath again this year. Only we know it can’t be Diamante Azul vs Rush since they’re in the Gran Prix itself, and it’s not likely to be Gran Guerrero versus Niebla Roja since they’re already getting to talk about the Anniversary show in-ring. (CMLL rule of thumb is none of the backstage promos really matter, but in-ring mentions of a date means it’s actually happening on that date.) That just leaves the women’s match, probably the match of the three most people would like to see on the Anniversary show, maybe happening two weeks early. There’s also really no room on the Anniversary show if both Guerrero/Roja and Azul/Rush are happening. CMLL could (correctly) see Rush putting up his hair as the biggest possible draw on a show that’s otherwise featuring a feud between the formerly third and fourth members of a group and maybe their best shot at drawing a good house this year.

I didn’t think Azul/Rush was happening before last week, and I’m still not sure it is – they could easily just be screwing around for the sake of something to fill out August, or to build tension on the Mexico team before the foreigners start to arrive (and they may start to arrive next Friday, that’s probably why the King Haku news came out this week.) And the women have been pretty consistent at saying they want their match at the Anniversary show for months; you’d think someone would’ve given them the heads up by now if that’s not happening. We’ll have more information by the end of the night. If Zeuxis & Sugehit make in-ring mask challenges but don’t mention a date, and if Rush & Diamante Azul looks like it could keep going, then you can start to put next month’s show.

The card itself is a lot of matches that could be good but nothing that really jumps out as speical. Dragon Lee & Mistico are Niebla Roja’s partners of the night against the Guerreros (with Mephisto in for Euforia.) Diamante Azul and Rush will have a singles match, which has been no good every time they’ve had it. Caristico is in a fourth match, rare for him, teaming with Soberano and Valiente against Sam Adonis, Negro Casas and Cavernario. It’s a weird fit unless Caristico is the next Adonis rival. Zeuxis teams with Amapola & Dalys against Sugehit, Silueta and Maravilla in what should be one of the better CMLL women’s trios matches. The Panther brothers & Esfinge face Puma, Tiger and Disturbio, and Shockercito & Stukita versus Mercurio & Pierrothito open the show at 8:30pm.

Besides the foreigners possibly coming in, Mistico, Titan, Ultimo Guerrero and Rey Bucanero will be going out, off next weekend for those ROH UK shows.

Tickets for the CMLL 09/01 Gran Prix are on sale, will run from 185 to 830 pesos including service charges. That’s the scale CMLL seems to for it’s lesser big shows; it’s the same range they ran back in December 2014 for a cage match with a bunch off upper level guys and Felino losing his hair.

Televisa announced TripleMania will air on Canal 5 (an over the air station available nationwide) on August 26th. The announcement was a single tweet, and there’s no info about when it’ll air (which is expected to be late in the night after the McGregror/Mayweather show) or how much will air.

AAA’s La Llave de la Gloria tryout will finish up Saturday. (I’d suspect the next news update won’t come until after it concludes.) AAA will select winners, who will get to work the opener of TripleMania in a couple weeks. We’re not sure how they’ll choose, how many they’ll choose, or even really who exactly they’ll choose from, but parts of the event will likely be streamed on AAA’s Facebook.

Part of me hasn’t liked this contest, because I liked logic and consistency in things and the logic of this tournament has been kept well hidden if it exists. On the other hand, you can’t turn over a rock in Mexico without finding a guy who can do a cool headscissors you’ve never heard of in your life, and it’s interesting to see people out of nowhere who are really great at what they’re doing. AAA’s track record of utilizing talent contest winners is sketchy, but a lot of the people who want far in the Quien Pinta Por La Corona contest years ago ended up getting noticed and used by indie promotions too. It’s worth watching to see who uses this to break out everywhere, and who’s worth scouring random YouTube channels to find a little bit more.

AAA now says tickets for the La Llave de la Gloria semifinal will be free for anyone who shows up at 10AM tomorrow. They’ve got the star of the deal twice as big as anyone else on that poster.

Dr. Wagner Jr. was doing a press tour yesterday to promote the TripleMania mask match. Here’s a clip from ESPN. There doesn’t seem to have been any news, but they’re pushing the show hard locally and I’d suspect Psycho Clown will make the same sort of rounds next week.

Nicho’s operation went well. It sounds like he got both knees done at the same time.

SuperLuchas has a Q&A with GCW referee Kris Levin, who will be back with those wrestlers when they work the September DTU shows.

German filmmaker Doris Dörrie says her next film will be made about a family of Mexico luchadoras. There’s no estimation of when the movie will be made.

The Gladiatores has a recap of a local Tijuana show. Hope everyone had a good time but the finishes sound awful: no finish because a faction ran in, no finish because both teams broke up, a clean finish!, that same faction wins via cheating but then kicks one person out and adds another, and a main event where a team lost because they broke up by the end. Indie lucha libre trying to be creative makes for some dreadful sounding shows; they’re twenty years behind the times on these finishes.

Lucha Memes started announcing matches for 09/03 in Coliseo Coacalo
1) Keira vs Makabre

Lucha Libre Mexicana-Los Reyes del Ring says 80s micro luchador Nicoali is in poor health.

Hijo del Santo writes about Dory Dixon.

Segunda Caida reviews Black Terry, Diablo Jr. & Demonio Infernals vs the Villanos.

Kcidis draws Sam Adonis.

A story on policeman/luchador Guerrera Rock.

There’s an exhibition of Mexican masks in Lisbon, Portugal.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-05 

Mundo moonsault

Recapped: 08/08/2017

Matches: 

Dr. Wagner Jr. beat El Mesías
(7:25, Wagner Driver, ok, via 
luchalibreaaatv )

Psycho Clown versus Pagano had no finish
(9:25, Mesias & Wagner run in, ok, via
luchalibreaaatv)

Johnny Mundo © beat Texano Jr. for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship
(8:48, foul, ok, via
luchalibreaaatv)

What happened: 

I needed an extra GIF and this seemed OK

Earlier, Fantasma tried to talk Vampiro into doing the three way title match. Vampiro explains he already made Texano & Mundo for the title tonight and he can’t change it, but he can make Fantasma referee. Later, Mundo berates Vampiro only to find out Vampiro stripped Taya of the Reina de Reinas title belt. Vampiro threatens to do the same to Mundo, and Mundo threatens lawyers. Vampiro says it won’t matter because “next week”, Texano will beat him for the titles anyway. Mundo isn’t concerned because he has Kevin Kross on his side. Vampiro points out Kross is fighting #1 briefcase now and might be coming for Mundo at any time. (Hilariously, we can see the #1 briefcase sitting on a table nearby.) In the graphics, AAA’s stopped referring to the individual titles and are simply calling Mundo the “Tri Champion”. Vampiro shows up before the match to announce Hijo del Fantasma as special referee.

Texano is more técnico in this match, though he and Fantasma have problems with Fantasma accidentally gets in his way on a dive. Mundo kicks out of both of Texano’s finishing moves on fair counts. Mundo crawls out and brings in a chair, Texano kicks him and grabs it, Fantasma stops Texano from using that chair and pulls it away, and Mundo fouls and cradles Texano while Fantasma is throwing out the chair. Fantasma counts the pin, also missing a tights pull. Mundo makes Fantasma raise his arm after the fact. Texano attacks Fantasma for costing him the match, but Fantasma takes him out. Kevin Kross urns in for no obvious reason, and that’s enough to get Fantasma and Texano stop fighting. Kross still gets with a double clothesline. Mundo comes in to congratulate Kross on a job well done, but Kross gets in his face. (No one has a briefcase here.) Hernandez walks out to argue with Kross, and Mascara de Bronce follows behind to springboard into a dropkick on both Hernandez and Kross. Mundo gets his turn to slam Bronce, then Texano and Fantasma attack Mundo. Neither Kross nor Hernandez make the save, watching from the outside. Mundo’s held in the middle for a lasso shot. Hernandez, Mundo and Kross all leave together even though they were about to fight. Texano and Fantasma argue in the ring and Bronce mostly disappears.

Psycho tope

Announcers discuss the Alvarado’s terrible history in apuesta matches. This time, Mesias’ played nine minutes in, but Mesias actually came out – he came thru the crowd and attacked Pagano. From behind. Psycho just watched as Mesias hit Pagano with the barbed wire bat, then decided to make the save. Wagner runs out, and Psycho Clown stands around doing nothing until Wagner gets there and hits him with a chair. It’s dumb. Both Psycho and Pagano end up bleeding, Pagano bleeding a lot. Pagano should win by DQ for Mesias’ attack, but no decision is ever called. Medics come into take the técnicos away without doing anything to stop the rudos, and get attacked. The técnicos are repeatedly pulled off the backboards and attacked viscously for a while; this is the same bit as in Juarez, but goes on for longer and feels heavier.

Jesus Zuniga announced this match as the semifinal. Even live, it’s not the semifinal – but it was on the poster so I guess he was looking at that. Dr. Wagner is totally a técnico thru the match. Pagano’s music starts to play seven minute in. Pagano is never seen, but Mesias stops fighting to look for him, waits about twenty seconds, and then is easily beat because of the distraction.

La Llave de la Gloria and the annual AAA pilgrimage are talked about in the Noti AAA. They also talk about the Mesias/Pagano rivalry.

Thoughts: 

excessive dive GIFs are the refuge of someone with no good ideas

This wasn’t the greatest advertisement for TripleMania. None of the three singles matches came across as a big deal as expected, and all the matches had underwhelming endings if they even had endings. These matches were supposed to be TripleMania level, but they weren’t as good as Suicide/Bengala last week and it didn’t feel like a big show was coming. The post match attack after the second match was at least a little bit effective, but the title match picture has so many different agendas and none of them are really clicking.

The main event was fine, I guess, and maybe I’m underrating it, but it felt underwhelming considering the guys involved. They working slow wand less impressively than you’d expect with the similar match on Lucha Underground. This was the one of these matches where someone actually trying the moves that actually win matches, only the crowd didn’t seem to care all that much and it never felt the intensity of a big title match. All the different subplots and extraneous aren’t helping the match they’re building at Triplemania; the three way doesn’t feel like the big title match, but the minor one that’s killing time for a PPV cycle before they get to the really important matches (Kross/Mundo? Fantasma/Texano?)

Pagano & Psycho Clown tried to have a straight technical match and it was OK at best. It’s not what either man does well, and looked slow and clunky at times. The crowd wasn’t all that into it, not reacting much to the near falls they were doing. They seemed to like the characters but weren’t much interested in the outcome, or they knew there was not going to be an ending until a finisher or a foul. That turned out right, since this was just a set up to have the TripleMania rudos destroy the TripleMania técnicos, and they cared much more about. The angle was effective but the match itself wasn’t worth seeing.

The opener was a casual singles match that was just doing the safe but not so interesting stuff, and then had the always terrible music finish. Pagano never even actually appearing made Mesias look even dumber, but it’s still a dumb finish. Given that ending, they wisely didn’t seem like it was that important to do all that much in the match. Wagner showed more than Mesias, but this wasn’t a shadow of the TripleMania fight they were redoing here.

lucha TV preview for weekend of August 10th

full size

Lucha Underground also mentions Catrina making a move on Cage’s gauntlet, and Rey Mysterio & Johnny Mundo meeting before their title match the following week.

AAA will have the first taping from Monterrey, if I’m right this time.  I’m just too excited to see Sexy Star back.

IWRG on Sunday has a quicky mask match.

1988 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

latest in a long series

I added 1988 lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio, to the luchadb database over the last week. They’re integrated the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. I think this is the first one of these which isn’t bigger than the last one. The link actually works this time, but no one asked me about the link not working last time so this is probably is totally unnecessary. Some day, some Google robot will come by and be lost forever.

This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. This year, the paper not only covered lucha for the entire year, but would regularly post results of Sundays hows on Tuesdays or Wednesdays. Not all undercard matches were covered, but this is about as thorough information as we get today, with more hints about how well the show drew than now. Lucha libre is often portrayed as another Mexican sport, but this is a rare time it was being treated like one.

The schedule is Arena Olimpico Laguna on Thursdays, and the Auditorio most Tuesdays, and either the Plaza de Toros or Palacio de Los Deportes on Sundays. The Auditorio disappears for much of the summer, so they may have been holding bull fights there too. Or other events – there’s no usual New Year’s Day shows because boxing is running in all the arenas instead. Still, 175 events total, more than 3 a week. Again, the shows feature UWA and EMLL talent coming in, though there’s some attempt to push local talent.

This “year”, I started remembering to link to articles which seemed a little interesting.