Volador/Casas in Guadalajara, mascot match for kid’s day, La Llave de la Gloria round 2

mascot warfare

CMLL (TUE) 03/28/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara, Martes de Glamour]
1) Frezzer & Furia Roja b Omar Brunetti & Vaquero Jr.
2) Demus 3:16, Pierrothito, Relámpago Azul b Cosmos, Eléctrico, Fantasy
3) Fuego, Star Black, Stigma b Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Raziel
Star Black replaced Rey Cometa.
4) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Ripper
5) Carístico, Mistico, Volador Jr. DQ Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Negro Casas fouled Volador for the DQ.

Ah, they’re doing another Casas/Volador match. Probably on 04/11.

CMLL announced a four mascot tag match for Kid’s Day on April 30. It’ll be Zacarias & Mije against Gallito from Guadalajara and the debuting Microman with Guapito as referee. This seems like something that should be announced in the US a couple days from now as an April Fool’s Day joke, but it’s a real match with a press release and everything. These are the more mobile mascots (more than Monito, who was not mentioned the whole show) but it will be tough to have anything more than a brief skirmish. April 30th is a Sunday, so this match won’t air unless CMLL does something special.

Also on Informa, Pierroth said he wants to be known as La Bestia del Ring or La Bestia Ingobernable. CMLL’s still listing him as Pierroth.

AAA announced the people who advanced from the second La Llave de la Gloria tryouts: Auster, Shaoling, Fetiche Jr., Dalton Bragg, Star Shock, Destructor de Galaxias, Lirio de Plata, Máscara de Angel, Nuevo Angel, Laxus Dragón del Trueno, Palacio Maya , Espíritu Negro Jr., Akanyel Extrem, Demonio Azteca, Genex, Charly Madrid, The Tigger, Tiger Boy, El Americanista, and Mandala.  That’s 20 names (so 32 have qualified so far between the two sessions.) I’m confused, because the photos and videos we saw on Saturday only showed about 32 people. AAA’s report on the session listed about 130 people, which didn’t seem supported by their own photos but maybe there were just a few sessions we didn’t see.

A lot of people are guys who are fringe members for the super indie promotions or work all around the Mexico City area without a specific hoe; this kind of contest helps them at least get more noticed and maybe some regular work. Charly Madrid is a bull fighter who had some good matches a few years ago before becoming a lot less visible. “The Tigger” is probably the Tiger, a Nuevo Laredo luchador who’s been working matches there and around Mexico State with Eterno. Genex and Star Shock are both young luchadors who’s shown up in DTU’s Kids division.

A couple of notable maybe missing names are Kortiz, one of Villano V’s sons who was in the tryout videos, and Hector Chavez, who had that write up in Record because his sister is a known model. Hector and his sister Danielle visited the AAA offices yesterday, so I’m guessing he’s either on the list under another name or they’re working on something else with him. Those who didn’t make it are encouraged to resubmit their information to be eligible for another tryout.

SoloWrestling interviewed Sexy Dulce, which LigerFever translated. If you’re in the mood, it’s got Sexy changing her story on why she missed her title match for the third or fourth time (she had asked Dorian for time off, she was hurt, she would’ve been happy to go appear and hand over the belt except – well, she never explains why.) There are couple notable things about her mindset right now. She again talks about her match in SHIMMER this weekend as her final match before taking time off to focus on boxing. Sexy has to be aware she’s booked on the Crash show a few days later, so I would assume this to mean she’s not going to wrestle on that show and will likely also give up that title without getting beat. (The title doesn’t mean anything, so that’ll be fine.) Sexy also sounds more open to returning to AAA than she has in the past, being complimentary towards Dorian, sidestepping any criticism of the promotion, and making the case that she never actually lost her mask so there’s nothing legally to prevent her from wearing it again. She doesn’t sound in a hurry to go back, but may go back on her terms. (Unless that gets a bad reaction, then she’ll reveal she’s been misquoted.)

ESPN Lucha Libre has an interview with Miguel Reducino about CMLL, which is the usual mainstream interview: wrestling person talks about how great everything is and the author nods along approvingly. Reducino explains CMLL does not do chair shots or blood because that would be disrespectful to the people. Reducino explains the difference between CMLL and AAA is AAA doesn’t keep it’s economic promises to luchadors and that’s why they come back to CMLL. Tours of Europe & South America, which haven’t happened in years, are mentioned like they’re normal things.

Dorian Roldan posted on Facebook about all the things AAA is doing over a two week (plus) stretch: getting on Netflix with Lucha Underground, makign the deal with Impact, Rey de Reyes, the launch of Zona Ruda, a new movie, the La Llave de La Gloria, doing shows with Kidzani, filming a US commercial and other things. A new movie? That part got explained last night, as AAA luchadors were part of wrestling scenes for a movie called “Ni tu ni yo”, about the life of a luchador. There a little bit of video of the work here and there was an article in Record about it. AAA luchadors were also present at the World Dance Music Awards last night.

AAA posted the first edition of the Zona Ruda show and says they’ll be uploading them each Wednesday. That’s a nice deal, I wasn’t sure we’d get to see these. I haven’t gotten a chance to wathc it yet, but they have interviews with Dorian Roland and Mesias, highlights from TV, and vignettes from Psycho Circus. There’s also a feature on Perro Aguayo Jr.’s mass.

Killshot confirmed he’s going to be on the AAA show in Tijuana. I have a list of which Lucha Underground wrestlers have worked with AAA & the Crash, but what I think I’m going to do with it this evening is print it out and then set it ablaze. I can’t figure this out.

Lucha Underground wrestlers will now NOT be part of the Blackest of the Black music festival, a reversal from a few days ago. It was announced before a deal got signed, and then the deal didn’t get signed. Masked Republic says they’ve heard familiar wrestlers will still be involved and I’ve heard the same.

Lucha Mexico will be shown in Mexico City as part of Festival Ambulante on April 6. The directors and some of the subjects were interviewed by Notimex. They’d like to get the documentary into Mexico movie theaters.

Leo Riano’s column mentions the Arena Mexico bathrooms and dressing rooms have recently been renovated.

SuperLuchas has an obit for Dardo Aguilar.

LuchaWorld interviewed Trauma II.

CultIcon writes a profile of Triton.

Cross Arm Breaker reviews Texano vs Ricky Santana.

ChilangaMask say they’re coming to Chicago on May 7th with the Traumas, Aeroboy and Fly Star.

Pro Wrestling Revolution is running a show on FloSlam on 04/15 in Santa Rosa with Atlantis, Octagon and Juventued Guerrera. They also announced Penta el Zero M versus Super Crazy on July 8th.

Donde Ir has nine places to visit around Mexico City for lucha libre.

great match roundup, week of 2017-03-18

Triton moonsault

ongoing 2017 recommend match list

This was a good week for random trios matches in CMLL; there’s a few good which could easily be argued higher. This was also the week where I determined I liked my new format for the recap but it takes longer than I anticipated. And also that no one really was that interested in me doing something different.

recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Drone, The Panther, Tritón vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-21 2017-03-21
great Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Hechicero, Kráneo, RipperMáximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Hechicero, Kráneo, Ripper (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-24 2017-03-24
good Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker AAA Worldwide desde Apizaco Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Marzo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker (posted by thecubsfan) AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-18 2017-03-05
good Mephisto © vs Carístico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-20 2017-03-20
good Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Virus in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-21 2017-03-21
good Luciferno, Mephisto, Pólvora vs Negro Casas, Puma, TigerLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-21 2017-03-21
good Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-21 2017-03-21
good Dragón Lee vs Niebla Roja in a lightning match Dragón Lee vs Niebla Roja in a lightning match (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-24 2017-03-24
good Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-24 2017-03-24

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What To Watch When You’re Watched All The Lucha Underground On Netflix

there is a season 3! it’s not on that streaming service yet!

Hello! You’ve just completed watching two seasons of Lucha Underground on Netflix. And – yes, yes, I know you’re very upset about [redacted plot development], I understand. Trust me, you’re not alone, it was a big thing. Just take a couple breaths while I assure you that things change later on. Keep in mind that season two and season three were worked out close together, so they do have a plan. I can’t promise you that you’ll like that plan, but there is a plan.

Still with me? Let’s start:

There is a third season of Lucha Underground. It’s just not on Netflix.

  • About half the third season of Lucha Underground has aired. The entire third season will eventually be added to Netflix, but we’re unsure of exactly when that’ll be. We know the plan is to have S3 up when they start taping Season 4, but Lucha Underground hasn’t quite decided when they’ll be taping again, and a wide range of start dates (October to February) have been rumored. If you’re only going to watch Lucha Underground on Netflix, you’re going to have a long wait for new episodes.
  • New episodes are’t actually airing anywhere right now. El Rey, Lucha Underground’s TV home, gave Lucha Underground an unexpected midseason break. New episodes will resume airing on May 31st. It’s been a long wait for new episodes for us watching each week, but it does give you time to catch up.
  • Catching up isn’t hard to do, if you’re willing to pay a little. Individual Season 3 episodes are available for $3 each on both Amazon and iTunes. iTunes also offers a season pass, a nice discount if you’re going to get all 40 episodes.
  • El Rey will begin reairing Season 3 episodes, starting April 5th. If you don’t have El Rey, it’s part of the basic package for Sling TV and also available on Fubo.TV for US users.
  • If you live in Canada, Season 3 will start airing on TLN (Telelatino) on May 5th. You’ll be a little behind US viewers, but you probably already get the channel.

There’s other Lucha Underground adjacent content out there

  • Lucha Underground’s owned in part by Mexican lucha libre promotion AAA, where many Lucha Underground luchadors work when they’re not in the Temple. They’ve also recently had a greater Lucha Underground influence on their product, both in front and behind the scenes. It still looks more like a traditional lucha libre than Lucha Underground, but there’s enough familiar people to make it easy to jump on. It’s also an easy promotion to watch: they just have a single 70 minute TV show to keep up with, and a new episode is shared every Saturday night for free on their YouTube channel. The biggest stumbling block is the show is only freely available in Spanish. The focus is more on the matches, so you should be able to follow along as best as anyone who understands the commentary.

    This Saturday’s AAA TV show (04/01, Rey de Reyes 2017 Parte 2) is an easy jumping on point. It has three big matches, the kind you might see on a bigger Lucha Underground episode, but you won’t be missing much if you just start to watch now.

  • Many other luchadors, including some who used to be in AAA, are now instead wrestling around the independent promotions. Prince Puma (masquerading as some unmasked king named Ricochet), Brian Cage, Pentagon Dark (as Penta el Zero M), Fenix (as Rey Fenix) and many more are wrestling around the US and the rest of the world every weekend. They’re just as fun live as they come off as TV, and it’s a lot easier to buy a t-shirt in person than it is on Netflix. It’s impossible to keep up where everyone is working all the time, but they’re probably coming to where you live soon, especially if you live in the United States or the UK. Los Angeles’ PWG and Chicago’s AAW are good places to start if you’d rather just buy a video, and you can find more info on live appearances via everyone’s social media.
  • Lucha Underground itself has made noise about running their own non-TV shows this summer, but hasn’t announced anything final. There was word they might have a show at a music festival, but that deal apparently fell thru. Stars from the show are announced as appearing on a panel at Chicago’s C2e2 on April 23rd. More things may be announced; keep an eye on Lucha Underground’s social media.

Lucha Underground is it’s own unique show. Nothing else is quite like it, but there’s more out there with the people involved if you’re looking for it.

04/21 AAA TV Lineup (Tijuana)

AAA

AAA TV (FRI) 04/21/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) ?, ??, Faby Apache vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
2) La Parka vs Ricky Marvin
3) Aerostar & Drago vs Killshot & Marty The Moth
Lucha Underground match
4) Australian Suicide & Bengala vs El Mesías & Pagano
5) Ayako Hamada © vs Taya [Reina De Reinas]
first defense
6) Hijo del Fantasma vs Kevin Kross [tables]
7) Psycho Clown  vs Dr. Wagner Jr. [EMW HEAVY]

Air Date: 05/06 & 05/13. Here’s the big list. AAA now has three tapings announced at once: Neza on Friday, SLP on the 12th and this one.

Just after AAA turns three belts into one, AAA might be adding another. The EMW championship, as best I can figure, is a new title. EMW is the local promoter of AAA shows (including this one), but hasn’t had their own title belts. It’s possible, even probable, this is a one off appearance for the belt (though it’d be better a Copa or a Trofeo in that case.) It’s also probable this is a title match just to give this matchup something different to do. They’re apparently going to be doing this match a lot in a short stretch:

03/31 Neza: Murder Clown & Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Monster Clown
04/12 SLP: Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. main event
04/21 Tijuana: Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. main event
04/29 Tlaxcala: card not announced, maybe not still happening (not listed on TV in upcoming events, with Puebla in it’s place.)
05/16 Pachuca: no card announced but saying they’ll have Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. main event

The same match on 3 out of 4 tapings, at least. These matches are not bad, no matter how much I’m going to complain about it, but they’re also not Dragon Lee versus Kamiatachi. You’ve seen one, you’re probably not getting a lot more out of the next two. An interesting midcard could help a lot.

This midcard is interesting! AAA TV is pushing this being the start of a new, Vampiro-rific, era of AAA. La Parka versus Ricky Marvin in a singles match that’s second on the card is definitely AAA being a new era. Four singles match on the show is definitely new, and much different than usual Mexican wrestling for a normal TV card. Fantasma & Kross is technically a Tijuana Table match, and I liked Tijuana too much to make a joke here. There are rarely gimmick. Taya gets a rematch for what used to be her title, a much quicker follow up on that sort of thing than normal. This is different.

The amount of matches and the stipulations involved overshadow how much less people are booked than their used to be. There are 22 people booked on this card. About one year ago, there was 36 luchadors on a similar show in Leon. There’s 22 here because AAA’s gotten Ayako and Kross and the LU guys to come in; they wouldn’t have much of a card without them.

Marty showing back up here is not a surprise, maybe only unexpected in that it took this long to happen after he impressed late last year. Killshot being on the show is a surprise. His Shane Strickland alter ego was just on The Crash show, and no one’s gone back and forth between the feuding promotions since this year. It’d probably be best for everyone if the promotions could get along and allow guys to work wherever but I don’t think that’s what’s going on here. It’s possible that a thing that is a big issue in Mexico is not something a wrestler who works on the US indies is paying much mind to, and Killshot doesn’t know/care what he’s stepped into. It does help AAA & EMW to have a few outside/different names when The Crash is focusing on doing the same.

It’s notable that Marty & Killshot are being allowed to use their LU personalities here; being the guy in charge of those decision and AAA probably helps. AAA’s ran a Lucha Underground on Netflix commercial on TV each week since it’s aired. It’d be an advantage if they could get more LU guys to work their shows.

The mystery spots in the opener seem set up to be the other Apaches, listed as surprises because AAA might not know if they’re going to be there (and Tijuana’s commission has historically come down harder on no-shows, so it might be wise to be careful.) I think they might end up being Monster & Murder as back up, since they had slight issues with that new unnamed rudo group on the other side.

Following taping is scheduled to be 04/29 in Tlxacala but, again, I suspect that’ll change.

Niebla Roja out of the Guerreros?, CMLL injury updates, LU-ish show in Toronto, Octagoncito

trouble with the Guerreros

CMLL (TUE) 03/28/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Notimex]
1) El Coyote & Grako b Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
rudos took 1/3
2) Dalys, Metálica, Reyna Isis b La Vaquerita, Sanely, Silueta LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudas took 2/3.
3) Sagrado, Skándalo, Virus b Esfinge, Soberano Jr., Tritón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3. Triton continues his losing streak.
4) Bobby Villa b Titán [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Bobby Villa won 08:02 via counter dropkick
5) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo Sexy b Puma, Terrible, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3
6) Atlantis, Matt Taven, Valiente b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3. Gran Guerrero & Euforia had problems with Niebla Roja and attacked him by the end of the match.

Niebla Roja is as confused by what happened as anyone else. Niebla Roja has been feuding with Dragon Lee and a split comes out of nowhere. Roja’s been part of the Guerreros almost since the moment he redebuted in spring of 2012, starting off as a Ultimo Guerrero’s protege. He’s been much better as a rudo than his tecnico run as Angel de Plata; Roja getting shuffled to another rudo group seems preferable than to him going to the tecnico side. The recap says nothing is certain until Ultimo Guerrero weighs in. Niebla Roja teams with Gran Guerrero and Ripper on Sunday.

A CMLL press release has injury updates on five luchadors, including one who it wasn’t clear was still around. Super Halcon Jr. hasn’t been seen in CMLL since last May 6th, with no word why he disappeared at the time.  CMLL now says Halcon went under a retina operation in 2014 so he’d no longer have to wear glasses, but something went wrong and he underwent a second operation the day after his last match. He’s still recovering ten months later and CMLL doesn’t offer a time table for his return.

There’s also no longer a schedule for Okumura’s return. He was originally supposed to be out a few weeks after suffering a neck injury in training. Rest hasn’t healed the neck, and he’s returned to Japan to undergo surgery. It’s not clear how serious the surgery is, which would great affect when he would return. They do say he’s planning on returning.

Shocker is back in the gym training to come back. CMLL explains he’s been slow coming back because, after his jaw surgery, he had a bad fall while in the US and needed another surgery. That had to suck. Ephesto’s blood poisoning is said to be from a bad injection (??), and he’s recovering on schedule. Estrellita is also recovering well after her fall on Homenaje a Dos Leyendas.

CMLL says this Saturday’s Arena Coliseo, with Euforia vs Caristico, happens to be the 74th Anniversary show for the building. They make a lesser deal about that every year.

Lucha Underground Season 3 starts on TLN on May 5th. They’re going to be closer to being on El Rey than usual, may even catch up if they air multiple episodes a day.

Smash Wrestling & Lucha TO announced a Lucha Underground themed show on 05/28 in Toronto. Aerostar, Drago, Son of Havoc, and The Mack are listed as wrestling and Vampiro is the host. Matt Cross being billed as Son of Havoc and Willie Mack as the Mack suggests this show is approved by Lucha Underground, so maybe they’re making progress at getting guys booked off the show.

Octagoncito has apparently quit AAA. The original Octagoncito says he’s teaming with his replacement, who will now be going as Mini Rey Mysterio, on a 03/31 show in Tijuana. The last time Octagoncito was on TV, the angle was him complaining about how he wasn’t getting a shot against Dinastia. Near the end of 2016, in a newspaper article, Octagoncito said he felt the minis were being forgotten by AAA and was considering leaving, which gives this report a little credible. Using the name Mini Rey Misterio is more surprising; there’s a couple of (fake) Rey Misterios on that show, so maybe Rey Misterio gave him the name.

AAA officially announced Verano de Escandalo will take place on 06/04 in Ciudad Juarez. This had been announced on the last AAA show in Juarez. No matches are announced or even hinted at yet. (Maybe Mundo/Argenis?) Tickets are on sale, running from 150 to 1400 pesos (or $8 to $74).

Aerostar says he’s changed his focus to the tag team titles. He and Drago face Cuervo & Scoria on Friday, which is currently not listed with anything on the line but figures to be made a tag title match given the pattern of changes on recent shows.

WrestleCircus mentions they’re not allowed to book AAA wrestlers as long as they’re using Penta & Rey Fenix. If this tactic is supposed to get people to stop booking those guys, it doesn’t seem to have worked: those guys are working at least a half dozen shows this weekend.

Luchador Dardo Aguilar has passed away. He wrestled for EMLL in the 70s & early 80s, and part of Super Muneco’s AWWA promotion and a trainer later on. Quien es quien has a quick bio from a couple years ago.

Martinez promotions in Texas is back on 04/09 with Rey Horuz & Low Rider vs Black Taurus and the debuting Lucifer Black. Lucifer Black is said to be an ex-AAA and ex-CMLL luchador and talked very slow in a promo. No idea who it is but, to take a shot in the dark, I wonder if it might be the former Mortiz. He did jump from CMLL to AAA to team with Taurus for a while before Mortiz dropped out of AAA.

There’s a video on the tie up the new Arena Mexico Freedom Bar is doing with the Turibus & CMLL.

+LuchaTV has Angel de Oro, Rayman, Black Terry and Crazy Boy on their podcast.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Segunda Caida reviews the latest LA Park vs Rush.

Juventud interviewed Sexy Dulce & Ronnie Mendoza on his show. Dulce says she still doesn’t know who she’s facing in her debut match that’s only three and half weeks away.

Lineups

IWRG (SUN) 04/02/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Fireman vs Atomic Star
2) Cadilac vs Skanda
3) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Shadow Boy vs Avisman, Demonio Infernal, Hip Hop Man
4) Emperador Azteca vs Eterno
5) Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Nigma vs Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
6) Freelance, Heddi Karaoui, Veneno vs Súper Mega, Trauma I, Trauma II
7) Herodes Jr. © vs Danny Casas [IWRG JUNIORS]
first defense

Eterno and Azteca in a singles match sounds fun.

CMLL (TUE) 04/04/2017 Arena México
1) Flyer & Sensei vs Camorra & Espanto Jr.
2) Eléctrico, Fantasy, Shockercito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
3) Astral vs Virus [lightning]
4) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Black Terry, Negro Navarro, Sangre Azteca
5) Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo Sexy, Rey Cometa vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

Arena Coliseo champions Negro Navarro & Black Terry make it back to Arena Mexico. Both have been back in Arena Mexico as part of Elite, Toryumon and nostalgia shows, but I think you have to go to Navarro to find 2001 on a regular Arena Mexico show and 1996 for Terry – or maybe that that was the mysterious Guerrero Maya. You might have to back to 1989 to find him under his own name on a normal CMLL show, but it was still EMLL back then.

CMLL (TUE) 04/04/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Explosivo vs Exterminador & Maléfico
2) Robin, Star Black, Star Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Furia Roja
3) Esfinge, Soberano Jr., Tritón vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
4) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Bobby Villa, Luciferno, Pólvora
5) Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

They did a foul finish with Volador last night in Guadalajara, but the recap isn’t clear who he’s feuding with.

AAA (FRI) 04/14/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) ? vs ??
2) ? vs ??
3) Big Mami, Faby Apache, Niño De Cobre vs Goya Kong, Lady Shani, Máscarita Negra
4) Joe Lider & Súper Fly vs Aerostar & Drago and Atomic Boy & Dizzy
5) La Parka, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. vs Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Pagano

A non-TV show in Naucalpan. Fourth match is confusing billed as a battle between promotions when they’re all from the same promotion. DTU’s Nino de Cobre has been popping up on AAA spot shows of late. I wonder who they get to work the opening matches.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-03-21 

Triton moonsault

Recapped: 03/24/2017

Matches: 

Cholo & Inquisidor beat Bengala & Leono (rudos 2/3, 17:51 [8:12, 2:51, 6:48], ok)

Nitro, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo beat Magia Blanca, Sangre Imperial, Starman (rudos 1/3, 15:21 [8:24, 3:19, 3:38], below average)

El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat The Panther, Drone, Tritón  (NGD 2/3, 14:38 [4:49, 3:46, 6:03], great)

Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Virus in a lightning match (Sacrifica Maya, 9:59, good)

Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger beat Luciferno, Mephisto, Pólvora   (Team Casas 2/3, 14:50 [3:41, 4:22, 6:47], good)

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero beat Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone (Guerreros 1/3, 12:17 [5:26, 2:04, 4:47], good)

What Happened:

this didn’t go well

Nothing much!

Team Casas beat nearly the national trios champions in a very good match.

Guerrero Maya defeated Virus with less than a second left. It was amazing timing.

Magia Blanca was hurt when Nitro whiffed on catching him on a headscissors.

The Panther replaced his father in the tercera.

Ultimo Guerrero went into about the eight row of the crowd to confront a fan for completely unclear reasons; whatever happened must’ve happened while they were showing post fall replays. Nothing came of it, with Caristico brawling with UG to pull him back to the ring.

Thoughts: 

perfect timing

One of the best CMLL Tuesday shows in a long time, with fun midcard matches. The main event was good too but, if it had something like Cometa/Cavernario to end it, it would easily be better than Homenaje a Dos Leyendas.

I really liked both of the big trios matches, and I’m keep changing my mind on which one I’d rather better. (Part of the problem was forgetting to write down the ratings I had live; new format needs some work.) There were a lot of little things to like about the NGD match; the setup to Panther/Sanson sequence setting up Triton’s 450 splash was well down. Cuatrero stands out an athlete even with athletic flyers like the three here. The Dinamitas are at the stage where they’re constantly adding something, trying something new and it makes each match worth checking out. It really works that they’re facing the Panthers a lot lately, because it feels like when those Panthers debuted against Tiger & Puma and also kept surprising. Triton also looked great in this match, working hard even as he’s finishing up here and they’re having him lose every night in Arena Mexico. It’s a good sign for his US work. Forastero made things easier for himself by cutting out the ramp running part of his dropkick. It’s a trade of a little bit of the drama for a lot of difficulty.

The Casas trios match was a rare chance to see Puma & Tiger as tecnicos. (Negro Casas played Negro Casas, kind of existing beyond tecnico/rudo status at this point.) They worked nearly as well there as they do on the rudo side, and showed off great teamwork. This match felt more dramatic coming to the close. Nothing was really on the line, but this came off as the replacement for the owed title match, and was worked like the titles were on the line at the end. The huracanrana to end the second fall didn’t go well, but the third fall finish came off much sharper.

The Panther learn his old partner’s move

Guerrero Maya and Virus went about eight minutes without touching the ropes. They never actually bounced off of them, but used them for flying spots to get to the finish. The only problem with the match was it felt paced for a twenty minute match and they had half that amount of time, so they spent eight minutes working their way around in holds and the last two minutes trying to fit in the things the fans expected. The mat work was well done if not creative, but also a little lost on this crowd and probably much more appreciated by the people watching on YouTube. The timing of the finish was incredible, so unexpectedly perfect for CMLL that I can’t believe it was actually meant that way – like it was supposed to be a draw and the referee counted too fast for once. Everyone played it off like that was the finish (and it makes not much difference either way.)

The main event was a usual main event, with both teams getting in their high points but not too much to the match. Dragon Lee seemed on and the Guerreros were sharp. It made the match better than usual for this spot, but not something I’ll remember a week from now.

nice set up for the kick

I think Magia Blanca overshot his target on the headscissors, but veteran maestro should’ve done a lot more to catch him. He may physically be unable to do so, he moves quite slow, but maybe that’s a reason not to put him out there. The biggest upset is they played out the third fall mostly normal instead of the usual quick to the end bit when there’s an injury.

It was nice to see Cholo is alive. Bengala didn’t appear to be thrilled to be in another boring opener, especially to take the Cholo Driver at the end.

push up revenge

CMLL Puebla: 2017-03-20 

check out these hard hitting punches

Recapped: 03/22/2017

Matches: 

King Jaguar, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr. defeated Meyer, París, Vega (rudos 2/3, 13:43 [6:39, 3:36, 2:49], ok, video link)

Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel defeated Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray, Zaeta Roja (rudos 2/3, 14:44 [7:16, 3:11, 3:50], ok, video link)

Zeuxis defeated Princesa Sugehit in a lightning match
(Zeuxis cradle, 5:48, ok,
video link)

Dragón Rojo Jr., Kráneo, Luciferno defeats Lestat, Rey Cometa, Stigma
(rudos 1/3, 16:09 [5:11, 3:20, 7:05], ok, video link)

Diamante Azul, Mr. Niebla, Terrible defeated La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match
(Team Azul 2/3 [DQ for Pierroth removing Azul’s mask], 12:50 [2:48, 3:51, 6:11], ok,
video link)

Mephisto © defeated Carístico to keep the CMLL World Welterweight Championship
(Mephisto 1/3 [La Caristica blocked into faceslam], 15:40, good,
video link)

What happened: 

Vega dropkicked totally out of his stage

There was a marriage proposal (which they almost totally missed in an ad break.) She said yes.

Mephisto cleanly defeated Caristico once again. The finish came off as lame, with Mephisto just blocking La Caristica (Mistica), Caristico falling onto the mat, and Mephisto getting a pin off that.

Zeuxis defeated Sugehit with the same cradle again this week, and asked for a title match. Sugehit pushed the idea of it being a mask match instead. It’ll be a title match.

Policeman and Espiritu Maligno continue to feud, and Maligno even picked up a fall win this time, but still lose cleanly in the end. Perhaps CMLL decided Maligno is an ex-mini and must lose at all times.

Vega cool armdrag

Pierroth unmasked Azul, again.

Dragon Rojo replaced Morphosis, who may or may not still be a CMLL luchador at this point. He hasn’t been back since he lost his mask and wasn’t around much prior to it.

Rey Cometa was stretchered out after a Kraneo running hipcheck to the head. This appeared to be a real injury (replay show some whiplash) but Cometa hasn’t been reported as missing time.

Thoughts: Nothing much special on this Puebla show, and a little bit disappointing.

this is both awful and great at the same time

Caristico/Mephisto tried in the third fall, but it still felt like a lesser version of the singles match we just saw in Arena Mexico. The finish just didn’t work at all, even the announcers were caught off guard by how a minor looking spot was it. The crowd got into the match, but Caristico’s also at the point where it’s tough to believe he’s going to win anything important until he actually does again. It was still the best match on the show, but it was nothing needed to see unless you have to see everything these guys do.

Not much good from the rest. Sugehit/Zeuxis was an ordinary lightning match. Stigma had a dumb moment in his trios match and very much seemed to be carried around. Lestat looked good, will continue to go nowhere. Vega looked good, will continue to go nowhere. Batillon did better than usual and the opener almost worked, but this recent format of short third falls in the first match hurt. At least the fans react to the never ending Ingobernable feud; they’re not into the Policeman/Espiritu stuff at all and weren’t much into Zeuxis/Sugehit either.

Lestat tornillo

I’m skeptical “Pierroth” will continue to be known as Pierroth for long. They’ve changed around his character a lot since he was brought back, and it’s really clear how very little connection the current performer has to the gimmick now that he has no mask. There’s some yellow in his gear, and that’s it. This man’s gimmick is “Rush’s Father”, right down to wearing the same style boots as Rush, and it doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense for him to use the name. It’s CMLL, so inertia might mean no change (he’s teaming with an unmasked guy named La Mascara), but it was glaring how extraneous the name is at this point.

Princesa Sugehit has to do a springboard/Asai dive if she and Zeuxis have a mask match. She’s teased it (or more just done a spot to get countered) every single match. I’m not even sure she doing it as a something to pay off forever, but people who watch too much CMLL would go crazy if she did even just a cross body off that springboard.

Giving Terrible something to do is nice, but CMLL seemed to miss the point that rudo is pretty good.

 

Sugehit keeps title over Zeuxis, Tuesday preview, stolen title belts

Misterioso gets the best of Soberano

CMLL (MON) 03/27/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, CultIcon]
1) Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja b El Perverso & Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Apocalipsis, Inquisidor, Policeman b Black Tiger, Espíritu Maligno, Millenium LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Misterioso Jr., Skándalo, Toro Bill Jr. b Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Princesa Sugehit © b Zeuxis [MEX WOMEN] LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sugehit took falls 2/3 to retain. 2nd defense.
5) Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3. Los Ingobernables rushed out and attacked the tecnicos after the match.
6) Diamante Azul, Mr. Niebla, Terrible DQ La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Pierroth shoved the ref and unmasked Rush.

CMLL’s show tonight is an ordinary show, with nothing much on the line. Atlantis, Matt Taven & Valiente face the Guerreros (no UG) in the main event. The best match trios match of the night might be Drone, Guerrero Maya and Maximo versus Puma, Tiger and Terrible. Terrible & Maximo will probably wrestle a lot together, but I’d like to see Terrible face the other guys. Titan versus Bobby Villa will be a good lightning match. Esfinge, Soberano and Triton face Sagrado, Skandalo and Virus, which probably won’t break Triton’s win streak. Vaquerita, Sanely & Silueta are scheduled against Dalys, Metalica and Isis in the women’s match. (CMLL’s preview lists Princesa Sugehit, Skady & Jarochita vs Zeuxis, Amapola and Tiffany, which is Friday’s women’s match.) An all rookie match of Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial versus El Coyote & Grako opens the show.

CultIcon previews the show. It starts 7:30pm local, though 8:30pm for people in the US. It’ll be on YouTube like normal.

Guadalajara has Caristico, Mistico and Volador against Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas. Hechicero replaces Dragon Rojo in the semimain. Dragon Rojo hasn’t indicated why he’s missing the show on his Twitter, but he is working on a Revolucionarios music video.

Okumura is headed back to Japan for treatment on his still injured neck.

Vampiro says he’s off of WrestleCon in Orlando this weekend because he’s decided to be at the Neza taping instead. Vampiro’s been announced for WrestleCon for months, and this Neza taping has been announced for over a month, but it’s portrayed as a conflict that just now came up. I dunno. AAA still isn’t saying anything about Mesias, who’s booked to be both in Orlando and Neza on Friday.

Record writes about Chilean Hector Chavez, who was part of the most recent La Llave de la Gloria tryout and brother of model/singer Daniella Chavez. She’s with Televisa, so AAA might have been encouraged to include Hector in the competition, but he looked pretty decent for a guy I hadn’t seen before in the tryout match. He was on the XMW show back on the 11th (and listed as Romeo there; not sure if that was a mistake or the name he normally wrestles under.)

Lucha Underground airs on Wednesday and Thursday this week on El Rey. It does not air Friday, maybe because that’s when Rey Mysterio Jr. hosts a series of short action films instead.

This news article mentions a match on Saturday’s The Crash show interrupted by a surprise performance of Tijuana’s ensemble vocal opera. The article says the crowd enjoyed it. There’s a little sideways video of this, making it more clear that it happened before the matches.

Veracruz’s Coliseo Fraternidad says Mascara Sagrada Jr. stole their title & Billy Boy stole their title. They only found this out because Sagrada & Billy had a title match for the allegedly stolen belt this past weekend in Arena Azteca Budokan.

LuchaRama on 04/08 in Mexico City

Mala Hierba actually teams up and Baku the lucha elephant returns, that’s already my favorite match of the entire LuchaRama.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

MDA Promotions, who usually only run in Monterrey, says they’re coming to Guadalajara on 06/18.

Hijo del Santo complained Televisa security wouldn’t let him in the door without unmasking. He later explained he knows there are rules, but they usually don’t apply to him.

Sam Adonis says the bad image Americans have of Mexico is wrong.

Lineups

IWRG (WED) 03/29/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Omega vs Keiser Drago
2) Cadilac vs Picudo Jr.
3) Kanon & Saruman vs Avisman & Skanda
4) Shadow Boy vs Lunatic Extreme
5) Camaleón, Hijo del Alebrije, Pantera I vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Heddi Karaoui
6) Golden Magic & Veneno vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr. & Relámpago

Main event is building towards Magic/Relampago. A couple of surprising names: Camaleon was a rarely seen opening match veteran in CMLL before getting hit by a truck in 2014 and suffering a leg injury. He’s recovered enough to wrestle on indie shows the last couple of years (and the Baby Camaleons around are his nephews, I believe.) Saruman was an indie name of note around 2012, most notable in Todo x el Todo, one of a few guys who were training in CMLL forever and seemed promising but never getting a shot in that promotion. He mostly disappeared after 2014 and I assumed he wasn’t coming back, but he’s excitedly talking up his return on his Facebook.

CMLL (MON) 04/03/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & París vs El Malayo & Joker
2) Asturiano & Rey Samuray vs Cancerbero & Raziel
3) Espíritu Maligno, Fuego, Pegasso vs Disturbio, Policeman, Skándalo
4) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Diamante Azul vs Pierroth
6) Atlantis, La Máscara, Rush vs Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

Los Ingobernables having no friends leads to an odd main event. Azul/Pierroth wasn’t good in Arena Mexico and probably will be much worse in the rematches. Panthers versus Revolucinarios should at least be good. I presume the Joker in the rudo is actually Pequeno Joker and not the Guadalajara Joker.

new lucha videos for the weekend of March 24th, 2017

this week in IWRG

Elite jumped back to the first episode ever, so no need for that. There are a few episodes that haven’t aired in the US but, if they’re just repeating the same episodes over again, there’s no point in recording it. It says something if CMLL can’t get back on the air in the US over now twice warmed over repeats.

YouTube Playlist

03/25 & 03/26 WWC

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-24
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-24 @ Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Shockercito vs Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito
2) Princesa Sugehit, Sanely, Silueta vs Dalys, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis
3) Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Hechicero, Kráneo, Ripper
4) Dragón Lee vs Niebla Roja in a lightning match
5) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
6) Diamante Azul, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match

AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-25
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-19 @ Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon
1) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs El Mesías & Pagano in a Number One Contenders Match for the AAA World Tag Team Championship and in a cage match
2) Faby Apache vs La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Ayako Hamada, Goya Kong, Big Mami in a AAA’s Reina de Reinas Number One Contenders Match match
3) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown vs Monsther Clown & Murder Clown
4) Argenis vs Averno, Chessman, Bengala, El Elegido, Pimpinela Escarlata, Niño Hamburguesa, Joe Lider, La Parka in a AAA’s Rey de Reyes Tournament match

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-03-25
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-13 @ Arena Puebla
1) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis
2) Drone, Esfinge, Lestat vs Puma, Skándalo, Tiger
3) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Titán vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Ripper

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-03-26
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-22 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Diablo Jr. vs Black Dragón
2) Cadilac, Emperador Azteca, Kanon vs Avisman, Eterno, Ovett
3) Pantera vs Demonio Infernal
4) Freelance, Golden Magic, Imposible vs Cerebro Negro, Heddi Karaoui, Relámpago

AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-18 

Mascara de Bronce

Recapped: 03/21/2017

Matches:

All matches taped at Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala on 03/05/2017 

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker defeated Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum (9:02, Carta Brava hanging double stomp on Máscara de Bronce, good, video link)

Angélico & Australian Suicide defeated Dark Cuervo & Joe Lider and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan to (possibly) earn an AAA tag team championship match (5:39, Angelico Fall of the Angels on Joe Lider, OK, video link)

Texano Jr. defeated Dr. Wagner Jr. and Psycho Clown to keep the AAA Heavyweight Championship (7:43, Texano backcracker on Wagner, OK, video link)

doom for Venum

What happened: Texano Jr. is still the AAA heavyweight champion, despite being forced into defending the championship in a three way match with Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner. He got a little help. Mystery assailants kidnapped Psycho Clown prior to the match. Psycho made it back about six minutes into the match, just long enough to get a near pinfall on Texano via a destroyer (Wagner pulled out the ref) and then distract Dr. Wagner into a loss. Psycho claimed not to know who had attacked him.

Angelico & Australian Suicide may have won a tag team championship match. The announcers mentioned the three way match as for a title match, but it wasn’t mentioned in the graphics and may have been quietly dropped. Joe Lider took the loss after he and Cuervo had a miscommunication, and Cuervo & Scoria beat up Lider for his mistake after the match. Lider is now 0-2 since the Perros del Mal have left and has been humiliated by his partners after both matches.

Mary Apache revealed her injury is a skull fracture and talked about her history of head injuries. A previous injury kept her out for three years. It’s unclear when she’ll return.

Aerostar & Super Fly argued some. The show ended with the Lucha Underground trailer for Netflix.

There were 22 minutes and 24 seconds of action on this show

Thoughts: 

unclear if anyone has caught Angelico on a dive in the last six months

They broke the AAA formula. The matches came off not as regimented as usual, or at least with new ideas and didn’t feel as much like the different people being plugged into the same setup. The openers are usually a brief tecnico warmup, a sub two minute beatdown, tecnico dives and that’s it. This opener had a little of that, but it kept going back and forth between the two sides for the last few minutes, to the point where even the final sequence between Bronce & Carta Brave could’ve gone either way. The tag team title match was in the mold of the really fun matches from Angelico & Jack Evans tag title run, with a fast pace and lots of pinfall breaks ups. It didn’t have the time or the quality of the others ones, but the effort was there. The main event felt more like a CMLL lightning match, with Wagner & Texano rushing into get pinfall chances (and not just aimlessly brawling for eight minutes before they did the ‘real’ stuff.) There’s no one right way to have matches, but it gets numbing if you have them the same way all the time. Shaking those things up is an obvious positive of the creative change. I didn’t think the matches were great (and I’d still like to see one get time) but it feels like they’re trying to get there.

There was still a lot of Vampiro on this show, but it didn’t feel like the show was about Vampiro this week. It’s hard to know what the show was about; they spent some time on the Rey de Reyes show and it was impossible to miss how nothing on this show had anything to do with that lineup. But it still feels more like something is happening here much more than before.

a nice SSP

The other obviously immediate change is the return of vignettes. There were the Apaches discussing (and reinforcing) what had happened last week, Psycho & Wagner both taunting poor Texano about how they were going to take the title away from him, Psycho getting stuffed into a van. AAA’s felt like they were mostly just rolling out matches for the last year, and now it feels like there’s more effort in making them matter.

The changing matches thing is still something to wait and see about. It’s a normal US thing and not as much in Mexico. The crowd was very unhappy when they didn’t think Psycho Clown was going to wrestle in the main event as scheduled. He got a big reaction when he turned up, but only showing up for about 90 seconds might have left people disappointed.

That opener was really good. Soul Rocker struggled a bit, but everyone else was really good and Mascara de Bronce’s tornillo looked great. They’re still having trouble catching all the dives these guys do, but they looked spectacular when we saw them.

Psycho’s already hurting before this