lucha libre on hold following Mexico City earthquake, LU

Lucha libre in Mexico is largely on pause following yesterday’s 7.1 earthquake in Puebla. Last night’s CMLL Arena Mexico show was canceled following earthquake, which brought building to the ground in Mexico City. This earthquake took place on the 32nd anniversary of an 8.0 earthquake in Mexico. Many places in Mexico City had or were in the middle of earthquake drills when then actual earthquake happened. The city is forever affected by the 85 earthquake – every building has exit signs in case of an earthquake, building codes were changed – but there’s still significant damage to many buildings in the city and in the rest of Mexico. It’s helped some amount, but there’s still obviously going to be a significant death toll when this is over. Mexico is still digging out today; the twitter feeds I follow that usually talk about lucha libre are passing along notices about volunteers needed at different locations, trying to reunite children and elderly with their families, and passing along emergency contact info.

CMLL’s arenas are said to be undamaged. They didn’t run because the city asked them, asked all big public shows, to go dark for the night in effort to clear the streets of as many unneeded people as usual. CMLL will probably run Friday if things settle down, though it’s possible they’ll need to pass an inspection before they can reopen to the public. CMLL hasn’t announced Informa is canceled today but assume it is.

(FWIW: The last canceled Arena Mexico show was the 07/21/2012 show, due to a protest around the nearby Televisa building. The last canceled CMLL DF show was a 09/01/2013 Arena Coliseo show due to a march, with a never rescheduled Hiroshi Tanahashi/Atlantis match as the match planned.)

The Guadalajara show went on as a scheduled. The DF wrestlers were already on the bus heading out there when the earthquake happened, and that location was unaffected by the earthquake. There’s no word about Arena Puebla, but it’s not mentioned among the buildings which were damaged in that city.

The DTU show scheduled in Morelos, near the epicenter of the earthquake, is canceled. The local promoter says the building seems fine, but has to be inspected before they can run an event and that’s not going to get done in time. Refunds are being offered at point of purchase. The Mexico City ExpoLucha show scheduled for Saturday is also canceled.

MedioTiempo has a roundup of fundraising activities. Polvora and Dragon Rojo are collecting donations of supplies at Arena Mexico today, and others will be doing the same at Arena NaucalpanDTU will be collection food on it’s upcoming shows. Arena Kalaka in Ciudad is holding a show tonight to raise money to send to Mexico City; Pagano will be part of that show. AAA edecan Bere will be signing autographs and taking photos tonigth in exchange for donations at Super Astro’s restaurant. There will likely be places for money donations in upcoming days.

Tonight’s Lucha Underground is episode 36 of the 40 episode season, entitled “The Rise of the Ring Announcer”. Matches on the show

  • Dante Fox vs Texano (clip)
  • Marty the Moth & Mariposa vs Fenix & Melissa Santos
  • Gift of the Gods championship match: Pentagon Dark vs Son of Havoc vs Drago vs Cortez Castro vs Paul London vs Saltador vs Mala Suerte

This is the final show of the June 12th taping, the last taping Rey Mysterio attended. He had a family obligation during Ultima Lucha weekend. If there’s going to be any resolution to Rey being dragged off by Matanza, it probably airs tonight (though they could and have aired things out of order.) The rest of the season is Ultima Lucha 3.

The preview says “More Ultima Lucha plans are made”; I’d expect we finally get the full list of Ultima Lucha matches after this. That main event seems like it should have an effect on the already announced Puma/Mundo match. Pentagon already believes he’s winning the Gift of the Gods in this promo and he’s not alone.

Melissa wrestling means Lucha Underground is short one ring announcer for the night.

10/21 Lucha Libre y Pasion in Arena San Juan

There’s a lucha libre expo scheduled for Oaxaca this weekend. That one appears to be still be on, with the idea of raising money for those suffering from the earlier earthquake this month.

A show on 09/30 in Arena Olimpica Laguna is listed as a Jerry Estrada farewell show. Feels like there’s been some of those in the past.

Segunda Caida doesn’t recommend the Warriors vs Terry/Diablo IWRG tag title match.


ACG (SAT) 09/30/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Alteño, Javier Cruz Jr., Johnny Dinamo vs Demonio Rojo, Linterna, Thunder Boy
2) El Rielero, Explosivo, Mágico vs Gran Kenut, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
3) Silueta vs La Pantera [lightning]
4) Omar Brunetti & Vaquero Jr. vs Joker & Sádico and Esfinge & Magnum and Frezzer & Furia Roja
5) Flash, Flash I, Flash II, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Ángel Negro, Ráfaga, Ráfaga Jr., Satánico

This is a benefit show for children suffering from cerebral palsy.

Gran Guerrero beats Niebla Roja (again), Panther/Virus tonight


CMLL (MON) 09/18/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika b Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 18  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Guerrero Espacial replaced King Jaguar (moved up) on Sunday.
2) Disturbio & King Jaguar b Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 18  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
King Jaguar replaced Canelo Casas on Sunday
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b Dalys, La Comandante, Zeuxis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 18  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Lady Maravilla replaced Skadi (injury) on Sunday. Sugehit submitted Zexuis again.
4) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Esfinge, Stigma, Stuka Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 18  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. DQ Kojima, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 18  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ultimo Guerrero replaced Mr. Niebla and fouled Caristico for the DQ.
6) Gran Guerrero b Niebla Roja LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 18  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Gran Guerrero submitted Niebla Roja to set up a title match next week.

I didn’t see this one yet. Attendance looked down. It’s be easy to blame Guerrero & Roja as non-draws, but Puebla attendance seems very random most weeks.

CMLL hypes today’s main event around Mr. Niebla. Mr. Niebla didn’t wrestle last night and who knows about tonight. This is the danger in writing in advance. The scheduled main event is Caristico, Mistico & Volador against Mr. Rey Bucanero, Terrible and Mr. Niebla, but who knows. It sure seemed like the scheduled plan for an upcoming main event was a Diamante Azul & Stuka vs Negro Casas & Shocker tag title match, but they haven’t successfully gotten everyone in the same place for a while. They may all be there for today’s semifinal, with Valiente & Vangellys filling out the trios.

The match of the night will probably be the Virus/Blue Panther lightning match. It’s only the second time CMLL’s held this match. The last ended in a time limit draw, with the battle mostly staying off the ropes and about swapping the holds. That’s likely to happen again this time, 10 minutes is just not long enough, but it should be something pretty different than the usual lightning match. Panther’s sons and Titan face Los Revolucioanrios and Hechicero in a near rematch from Saturday. Fiero makes a segunda appearance, teaming with Metatron & Oro against Metalico, Nitro and Raziel. The opener is a minis tag, with Acero & Aereo against Pequeno Universo 2000 & Pequeno Violencia.

Guadalajara has Marco versus Euforia for the heavyweight title, with Marco being heavy favorite.

AAA posted a series of GIFs from the first Lucha Underground All Night Long match to show Johnny Mundo is capable of wrestling for a long time and may not be in trouble wrestling 3 matches at Heroes Inmortales. They also have quotes from Lady Shani & Ayako Hamada building up their Heroes Inmortales match.

AAA officially announced the Metepec card that was posted a few days ago, and posted a behind the scenes video package of TripleMania.

A few weeks ago at Arena Roberto Paz, Mr. Aguila said he thought his TripleMania appearance would lead to more AAA dates.

Bandido told R de Rudo he’s “close” to going to WWE, following William Regal and Dark Angel scouting him at a Lucha Memes show in the recent past. It’d be his dream to go.

Lucha Memes says they’re running a show on 10/22 in Puebla’s Arena La Loma.

Box Y Lucha #3301 has the unmasked losers from the Anniversario.

Hijo del Santo didn’t get to have his show in the Zocalo; they went with Ricky Martin instead.  El Universal has an interview about El Santo with what they say are Hijo del Santo & Axel. That would be very strange and big news given the long time legal issues between the two (so I wonder if they’ve confused Santo Jr. for Axel.)

LuchaWorld has the latest lucha report and this week’s Poster-Mania.

Lucha Sorpresa has some match recommendations from last week.

+LuchaTV has the latest edition of their podcast.


IWRG (SUN) 09/24/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Ángel Oriental vs Power Bull
2) Demonio Infernal & Shaolin vs Súper Brazo Jr. & Tackle
3) Aramis vs Diablo Jr.
4) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Gallo Frances, Taylor Wolf, Violencia Jr.
5) Bombero Infernal, Imposible, Villano V Jr. vs Black Warrior, Eterno, Warrior Jr.
6) Herodes Jr. © vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr. [IWRG JUNIORS]
3rd defense

IWRG tapings are about counting backwards to see if the cool looking small guy match will make TV. Aramis/Diablo Jr. is fourth from the top, so it should barring power outage.

CMLL (MON) 09/25/2017 Arena Puebla
1) París & Vega vs Ares & Joker
2) Asturiano & Millenium vs El Malayo & Rey Apocalipsis
3) La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Drone, Esfinge, Stigma vs Cuatrero, Sagrado, Sansón
5) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
6) Niebla Roja © vs Gran Guerrero [CMLL LH]
first defense

Niebla Roja had to agree to lose his mask to be in that Anniversary main event, and the rumor has been that he’s leaving CMLL shortly. (Niebla’s booked in Nevada on the following Friday, thru an Arizona indie lucha promotion he’s worked for in the past.) CMLL would probably want him to lose his title before leaving, and they could get that done quickly here.

Fourth match is a rematch, which didn’t seem necessary based on the outcome on yesterday’s show.

Kojima isn’t on any cards past Friday, so he must be finishing up. They figured it out enough never to put him in a singles match.

new lucha videos for the weekend of September 15th, 2017

This is small. YouTube has the videos I shot as well. IWRG didn’t air because of the power outage, and I think I need to start looking for a new AAA Regional source before next week.

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-09-16
taped 2017-09-08 @ Arena México – Mega
1) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
2) Titán vs Rey Bucanero in a lightning match
3) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Pierroth, Rush

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-09-16
taped 2017-09-12 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara – Mega/YouTube
1) Astral, Robin, Star Black vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Sádico, Sangre Azteca
2) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Gran Guerrero, Pólvora
3) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Kojima, Mephisto


CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-09-05 

Misterioso succeeds by doing little

Recapped: 09/16/2017


Espíritu Negro & Grako beat Fiero & Magia Blanca  
(11:07 [5:48, 2:40, 2:39], 1/3, ok, via

Drone, Pegasso, Star Jr. beat Cancerbero, Forastero, Nitro
(13:57 [5:58, 3:52, 4:07], 2/3, ok, via

Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
(13:52 [8:14, 2:38, 3:00], 1/3, ok, via

Misterioso Jr. beat The Panther in a lightning match
(7:55, Gory Special, good, via

Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora beat Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Johnny Idol
(15:09 [5:04, 2:58, 7:07], 2/3, ok, via

Carístico, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Terrible
(9:28 [2:40, 2:17, 4:31], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

In angles that exist but have never gone anywhere, Misterioso is still taking masks after wins.


weekly Fiero highlight

The main events breezed thru their match without doing match, and then Mr. Niebla got dumped on his head by Diamante Azul for the finish. Zacarias running away in fear was the correct reaction. I don’t know what was supposed to be happening on the plancha spot before hand, but neither did they and it didn’t matter much. Nothing on this show mattered much.

The semimain had Blue Panther weirdness. Though, if they’re doing bits where Dragon Rojo of all people is out manuevering Blue Panther on the mat, then maybe Panther needs to call it a day. Angel de Oro coming back to quickly beat Hechicero to win the first fall right away was unexpected, and it was one of those unexpected endings Panther matches.

The lightning match was the match of the night for me. They had a few big spots (Panther’s missed plancha, his topes later) to build the match around, a competitive feeling the rest of the way, and everything looked pretty solid. It was pretty enjoyable for a Tuesday match.

foreshadowing (but its on a Tuesday so no one cared)

Tiffany had a tough time in the women’s match, especially early on. It was an ordinary match otherwise, with a bit of focus on Sugehit leading into her mask match.

I watched most of a Nitro match because Forastero is pretty fun with these técnicos. They all couldn’t work with him, but they seemed to be trying to make it work and it didn’t drag on as much as some of these segundas.

Fiero might have been toned down after his brush with death the previous week, or his lack of highspots may have just been usual CMLL variance. Magia Blanca ended up getting as much spotlight as him. Blanca is looking better of late, though he’s still not as good as Fiero.

running seems like the right option


Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero rematch, Rey Mysterio & Hijo del Santo team, KaientaiDojo

(photo via KDojo)

LLT (SUN) 09/17/2017 Cicero Stadium, Cicero, Illinois [thecubsfan, YoDeportes]
1) Chris Michael & Rey b Blue & Dante Dvs
2) Alonzo & Guiterrez b Tony Scarpone & Wild Liger
3) Zafiro (Chihuahua) b Kendra (Illinois)Nataly SensacionCalamity JaneLuna Mágica
4) Love International, Octagoncito (original), Payaso Cocoliso, Vengador Futuro b ?, Destructor, Destructor Jr., Eros
5) Huracán Ramírez Jr. & Tritón b Skayde & X-Fly Skayde & X-Fly vs Huracán Ramírez Jr. & Tritón (posted by thecubsfan)
6) Discovery, El Hijo Del Santo, Rey Mysterio Jr. b Dr. Cerebro, Súper Crazy, Yakuza Discovery, El Hijo Del Santo, Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Dr. Cerebro, Súper Crazy, Yakuza (posted by thecubsfan) Hijo del Santo y Rey Misterio Jr. triunfan en Chicago (posted by

Most of the undercard names are totally, totally wrong. But so was the women’s match, where it appeared the lucha talent wanted nothing to do with the local woman and then the lucha women didn’t really work well with each other, and then Zafiro & Sensacion did a promo bit forever that went nowhere and accomplished nothing and I accomplished some reading. Always bring a book or a friend to a indie lucha libre show.

You know what was good in the undercard? I have no idea who “Alonzo” is (and only knew that much because it was on his gear), but he’s stood out as really good. A random Octagoncito appearance was nice to see, and he was leaps and bounds better than the other people in the match. Rey Horus was not seen; he was advertised, so maybe he was still hurt from PWG (but it didn’t stop him from working in New York last week so I dunno.)

Main event was, as best I can tell, the first time Rey Mysterio and Hijo del Santo have teamed up in 16 years – back during Rey’s bucket list CMLL run in 2001. They both gave a fair effort for this level of show (about half full at very expensive tickets); I was surprised to see Santo do the flip senton off the top to set up a tope on the floor spot. People treated Santo like a big deal but Rey was definitely the bigger star for this crew. Super Crazy did a good job of leading things on the rudo side and then vanished the moment the match was over.

He missed them doing a bit with Santo and Cerebro about Cerbero wrestling the match with a mask. Cerebro brought up the five year rule, they talked a while longer, and then they did the 10 second mask match bit with Cerebro running off instead of getting unmasked. Santo objected to someone who lost his mask putting it back on, but he later clarified to Rey that he was exempt. Rey was cool with it.

IWRG (SUN) 09/17/2017 Arena Naucalpan [@TKD_117, +LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Lunatic Xtreme & Skanda b Ángel Celestial & Hijo Del Bombero
Hijo del Bombero replaced Celestial Boy (injury). Straight falls.
2) Pantera I © b Aramis [IWRG IC Light]
second defense. Panthera took falls 1/3 to retain.
3) Eterno b Relámpago © [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
second defense. The power went out during the third fall of this match. Eterno took falls 2/3 to win the title.
4) Imposible © b Súper Mega [IWRG Rey del Ring]
third defense (all vs Mega, last went to a draw). Imposible took 1/3 to retain.
5) Emperador Azteca © b Hijo del Pantera [IWRG IC WELTER]
second defense
6) Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. © b Herodes Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 Jr. [IWRG IC TAG]
first defense. Warriors took falls 1/3 to retain. Herodes & Mascara fought each other after the match. Two mystery men showed up to help Mascara Jr. against Herodes. The power went out a second time early on.

The power outage seemed to be because of the storm, because it likely means most (or all) of this show doesn’t end up airing.

IWRG results have Celestial Boy, instead of Angel Celestial, but Celestial Boy is in a neck brace following an injury on a Coacalo show last week. He may be out a long time.

Niebla Roja gets another shot at Gran Guerrero tonight in Arena Puebla. They’re the main event in a single match, following the mask match on Saturday.  It’s the highlight match of an otherwise normal card.

Caristico, Dragon Lee and Soberano are a good tecnico team, but are facing Kojima, Mr. Niebla and Negro Casas. The NGD face Esfinge, Stigma, Stuka. Sugehit and Zeuxis rematch in a woman’s trio, with Marcela, Lady Maravilla (replacing Skadi), Dalys and La Comandante round out the match. Canelo Casas continues to be MIA, with King Jaguar stepping in for him again to team with Disturbio against Black Tiger & Espiritu Maligno. The Centella Rojas face Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabolika in the opener. The show will air at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube,

Rey Celestial, real name Oscar Leonardo Torres Parra, died after being hit by a car just a few minutes before the Canelo fight started Saturday night. The driver drove away, and the only information they have is the car was white and his rear view mirror. He leaves behind a young daughter. He’ll be buried today.


The Eli Drake/Mascara de Bronce match airs on Impact this week. Impact’s PPV and next set of tapings will be taped in Ottawa, with Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano and Texano scheduled to appear.

CultIcon finishes his history of CMLL pieces.

Atlantis, Shocker and Daniel Aceves were part of a food drive for those affected by the recent earthquake.

Lucha Libre in Japan

09/18 KDojo:
Sammy Guevara beat Taishi Takizawa, Daigoro Kashiwa and Dicky Maye
TAKA Michinoku & Black Terry beat Tank Nagai & Kyu Mogami
Douki beat Syrus in the main event

It sounds like all the lucha matches went well. Douki is going for the title. TAKA liked teaming with Terry.


XXX (FRI) 10/06/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Hijo De Cadáver vs Enjambre Jr.Hikuri
2) Broken & Dollar vs Golden & Hijo Del Ángel and Kroos & Terremoto
3) Mini Rey Misterio vs PentagoncitoBlack Shadito
4) Oriental vs Guerrero Siam
lucha libre vs MMA
5) Jack Evans vs Villano III Jr.TiagoGrond XXXBlack TaurusDecnnisSharly RockstarHijo del Lizmark [mask, hair]

This is a weird Naucalpan lineup that turned up over the weekend. I hope XXX Promotions means this a Gronda run show. I guess Tiago is the favorite to lose in the main event but Decnnis and Sharly aren’t impossible.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-09-04 


Recapped: 09/15/2017


Black Tiger, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr. beat El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial
(17:42 [5:41, 4:49, 7:12], 2/3, ok, via

Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico beat Asturiano, París, Último Dragóncito
(15:40 [7:55, 3:34, 4:11], 1/3, ok, via

Ángel de Oro, Drone, Soberano Jr. beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
(13:53 [4:48, 4:41, 4:24], 1/3, ok, via

Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Sam Adonis beat Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Valiente
(12:31 [5:08, 1:30, 5:53], 1/3, ok, via  

Mistico, Octagón, Volador Jr. beat  Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Último Guerrero
(11:53 [5:43, 1:39, 4:31], 2/3, ok, via

What happened:

Octagon returned to a CMLL show for the first time in 25 years. He is only working select Puebla shows at this point, clearly getting a trial run.

Cavernario and Adonis had a testy relationship but didn’t actually betray each other.

In the opener, Tirantes forgets who’s on which team, and grabs Tigre Rojo’s arm to raise simply because he’s close to him when the fall ends. Tigre Rojo is a tecnico, it’s the rudos who won, and Tigre Rojo explains this to Tirantes.


Soberano tornillo

This was a very boring show. Nothing was too terrible, but nothing was worked all that hard. Any match that looked promising really wasn’t much, and most everything felt like it never got out of first gear.

In the main event, Octagon looked no different than he did in all of his indie matches – like he probably shouldn’t be wrestling at this point and definitely isn’t interested in taking any bumps. He did do a tope, which is more than you’re going to get out of him in a random Mexico State show, but he’s way too limited to be part of good matches. But, if having good matches was what mattered, he wouldn’t have been brought in the first place. His performance wasn’t a surprise and probably was meaningless.

Soberano’s having a trouble landing his tornillo as a plancha of late. He’s always landing on his feet and sort of leaning forward into his rival. It doesn’t look right.

Independence Day results, Rey Celestial, Flip/Euforia

photo by CMLL

CMLL (SAT) 09/16/2017 Arena México [Claro, CMLL, CultIconSuperLuchas]
CMLL 84th Anniversario
1) Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora b Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther
21:23. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
13:21. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas DQ Kráneo, Rush, Sam Adonis
9:21. straight falls.
4) Zeuxis b Princesa Sugehit [mask84 Aniversario CMLL Mascara vs Mascara Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Momentos Estelares  PRINCESA SUGEHIT Vs  ZEUXIS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
20:49. Zeuxis took falls 2/3 to win. Princesa Sugehit is Ernestina Sugehit Salazar Martinez, 37, 21 years a luchadora.
5) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. b Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero Lucha Semifinal Aniversario 84 CMLL (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:04. Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Gran Guerrero b Niebla Roja [mask84 Aniversario Mascara vs Mascara NIEBLA ROJA vs GRAN GUERRERO mov (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Lo Mejor de Niebla Roja Vs Gran Guerrero (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
18:23. Gran Guerrero took 2/3. Niebla Roja is Sergio Raymundo Chavez. He is 31, 11 years a wrestler

CMLL & AAA’s big show are always going to be compared. AAA was much more ambitious, failed badly in some ways, but delivered the one match they really cared about. CMLL had better matches, but also aimed much lower and the complacency in the promotion was impossibly to ignore. Both had parts to enjoy, but neither was such a complete good show that I feel any great urge to argue for one over the other.

LI (SUN) 09/17/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Magic Girl & Tarahumara b Eva Bernal & Guerrera Isis
2) Ángel Negro, Hijo Del Villano III, Villano III Jr. b Flash I, Pantera del Japon, Súper Astro Jr.
Pantera de Japaon replaced Hijo del Pnatera (IWRG). Money thrown in.
3) Pantera, Solar I, Súper Astro b Heddi Karaoui, Rocky Casas, Veneno
4) Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 Jr. b Rayman, Satánico, Villano IV
Satnaico replaced Fantasma but turned on his parnters.
5) Rayo de Jalisco Jr. b Canek
Cien Caras seconed Canek, but the ref threw him out before the finish. Rayo won. Money thrown in.

They threw in money for Rayo & Canek so I’m ok with never using money being thrown in as a good indicator of a quality match.

CMLL (SUN) 09/17/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito b Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
2) Cancerbero, Puma, Raziel b Pegasso, Starman, Stigma
rudos took 1/3
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
Sugehit wins her first match unmasked. Tecnicas took 2/3.
4) Dragón Lee, Flip Gordon, Rey Cometa DQ Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
tecnicos took 2/3. Euforia fouled Flip to set up a singles match next week.
5) Carístico, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Rush
Niebla Roja wins his first match unmasked, taking 2/3.

Mask match losers getting the win in their next match is the biggest lock in professional wrestling. I like to dream Euforia is feuding with all the ROH talent to get him ready for a big TV title run. (Even in my dreams, I can’t dream big.) Probably more that he’s a guy they trust with these guys who has some name value. This will mean two singles matches next week for Euforia, since he’s also going for the heavyweight title Tuesday in Guadalajara.

Puebla luchador Rey Celestial passed away Saturday. DTU held a moment of applause in his memory tonight. No cause of death has been mentioned. He was wrestling as recently as Wednesday in San Luis Potosi for The Crash. Rey Celestial was 22 when he passed away. He would’ve been about 17 when he was the minis winner of the second edition of Quien Pinta Para La Corona. That’s the competition that’s sort of become a cautionary tale for AAA’s latest talent search contest. Rey Celestial, La Magnifica and Saturno won the competition, but AAA didn’t appear to have any real interest in using the winners. Celestial spent about a year working small shows, and ended up with as many matches on AAA TV as on DTU’s TV show. (This would’ve been around the time of that AAA brand split that never actually happened.) Celestial was still good when he would turn up on video, and had worked a handful of The Crash shows before his passing. Winning the AAA contest probably didn’t change his career, but it did change his life – he and La Magnifica were a couple at the time of his passing.

CMLL posted a clip of a documentary on Dragon Lee on Facebook.  Dragon Lee’s been mentioning working on it at Twitter, but it surprised me it was CMLL project – it’s something NJPW does a lot with their guys, but CMLL’s not done one prior.

AAA posted this week’s TV show, which was part two of AAA. But right now ti’s down.

Rey Fenix & Penta won tag titles in Ecuador.

Diosa Atenea unmasked Zuzu Divine in Arena Aficion. Zuzu is Azucena Angeles Flores, 23 years old.

Motocross took Chico Che’s hair in Arena Neza.

Galactico took Zafado’s hair in Arena Roberto Paz.

Super Terry took Cerbero Maligno’s hair in Arena Lopez Mateos.

TLN in Canada is back to airing episodes that haven’t aired on El Rey. They aired part 2 of Ultima Lucha (skipping three episodes, including the next two episodes.)


CMLL (FRI) 09/22/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Fantasy vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis
3) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Luciferno
4) Negro Casas vs Sam Adonis [lightning]
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Kráneo
6) Flip Gordon, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

That main event would’ve been a good semimain on Saturday. Oh well.

Reyna Isis is back after an extended trip to REINA in Japan.

CMLL (SAT) 09/23/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Sangre Imperial & Sensei vs Artillero & Inquisidor
2) Bengala, Fiero, Magnus vs Akuma, Cancerbero, George Kebrada
3) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany
4) Johnny Idol vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Flip Gordon, Mistico, Rush vs Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Último Guerrero

The Idol/Rojo match is random and not from anything they set up.

CMLL (SUN) 09/24/2017 Arena México
1) Flyer & Sonic vs El Coyote & Templario
2) Drone, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Puma, Tiger
3) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Kráneo, Pólvora
4) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Flip Gordon vs Euforia

Semimain will probably be pretty great. NGD have leapfrogged a lot of people.

CMLL (SUN) 09/24/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. vs Quka
2) El Yaqui & Principe Daniel vs Mr. Apolo & Relámpago Azul
3) Black Sugar, Javier Cruz Jr., Tigre Blanco vs Demonio Rojo, Difunto, Thunder Boy
4) El Alteño, Mágico, Neutrón vs Carlo Roggi, Mr. Trueno, Nautilius
5) El Rielero, Explosivo, Vaquero Jr. vs El Chakal, Pitbull I, Ráfaga

Chakal & Daniel have been wrestling on the indies for the last year, but are back here.

CMLL 84th Anniversary Show: 2017-09-16 

we could all use a hug

Recapped: 09/16/2017

All matches aired live from Arena México on iPPV


Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora beat Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther
(21:23 [7:42, 5:27, 8:14], 2/3, good)

Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(13:21 [6:49, 2:17, 4:15], 2/3, good)

Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas b Rush, Kraneo, Sam Adonis
(9:21 [5:02, 4:19], 1/2 DQ, ok)

Zeuxis beat Princesa Sugehit in a mask vs mask match
(20:49, 2/3, great)

  1. Princesa Sugehit rana (3:21)
  2. Zeuxis bridging cradle (3:45)
  3. Zeuxis Spanish Fly (13:43)

Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. beat Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
(16:04 [5:22, 2:40, 8:02], 2/3, ok)

Gran Guerrero beat Niebla Roja in a mask vs mask match
(18:38, 2/3, great)

  1. Niebla Roja springboard plancha (2:06)
  2. Gran Guerrero wristlock armscissors (1:35)
  3. Gran Guerrero fireman’s carry powerbomb (14:57)

What happened: 

king of spades?

Niebla Roja was unmasked as Sergio Raymundo Chavez. He is 31, 11 years a wrestler. He wrestled without any side of an injury, though they checked on his knee after the second fall.

Princesa Sugehit was unmasked as Ernestina Sugehit Salazar Martinez. She is 37, 21 years a luchadora.

Sam Adonis and Negro Casas continue to feud in their match. Adonis gave Casas an inverted atomic drop, which was ruled to be a knee lift foul.

Mima Shimoda accompanied Kojima for his match.

The iPPV feed aired without any major problem, though they continued to replace the dance numbers with video packages (even though they’re in no danger of being taken down by YouTube whe they’re not on YouTube.)


he did it!

CMLL’s two big matches delivered on their promise. Roja wasn’t hampered by any leg injury or by a negative crowd reaction (they were definitely cheering for Gran Guerrero but did not reject the match.) The crowd got into the women’s match as much as they have for any big women’s match. Both matches were about as good as they could’ve hoped to be, and fans of those four luchadors left happy with the effort (if maybe not all happy with the results.)

The problem for this show is there weren’t enough fans of those four people to make for a strongly attended show, and they didn’t do enough with the other luchadors people might care about to make up the difference. There were sections of the show booed, but it came across more as indiference on the iPPV stream, and for good reason. The opener was the kind of extra effort match normal for a big show, but the other trios matches didn’t have that extra bit. The NGD match was good given who was involved but was unexpectly more a showcase for the técnicos. The third match was an early match feud, one that didn’t feel near hot enough to make it worthwhile. And the semimain was kind of a more, a match that didn’t feel like it should be be part of a big show on paper and one where the participants didn’t work all that hard to change that perception. The malaise that’s overtaken the rest of CMLL cards this year was just as present on the biggest show of their year. An underwhelming anniversary show is an accurate representation of the last year.

Zeuxis will steal your beer!

If Niebla Roja does a run of interviews swearing that he wasn’t injured, that everyone was making it up, people would have a hard time disproving him on based on his performance here. Both he and Gran Guerrero talked about wanting to prove they belonged in this spot. This was not an epic on the level of the Atlantis matches, but this did feel like the best possible Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero match, one that was capable of pulling in a disincllined crowd to react to the big near falls. (All the near falls felt big too. Unexpectedly, CMLL doing such a lackluster job of building interest into the match made the match seem a little bit more fresh – this was not simply a better version of a match they’d done many times because they not had a singles match before this.) I wish Gran Guerrero was more his own man and not such an Último Guerrero cover band, but he did the best version of UG’s style with his own finishes as he could. Niebla Roja didn’t connect strongly with the crowd, but he did try everything he could here to make the match dramatic. This would’ve been a breakout singles match if it had happened prior to the Anniversary, and feels underwhelming mostly because of how CMLL positioned it and not what they did.

The semifinal definitely feels underwhelming based on what they did. CMLL’s going to roll out Kojima and Flip Gordon in trios matches for a while, and you’ll liable to see ones just as good as the semimain from the Anniversario show. Gordon didn’t really stand out beyond the kip up spot. Kojima seems like a nice guy, but is definitley in the wrong promotion, and wasn’t a great pick for an extended tour. The other guys coudl’ve made up for it, but were just checking off moves from their big matches with no particular excitement. There was no urgency or pressure that you’d expect for a match on this level of show, and just that made it more disappointing than it would’ve been on a regular show.

this was a good match but I think Angel de Oro took the best bump

The woman’s match was actually a little disappointing to me for the first couple of minutes, with both women working unconvincing holds unlike they had done in previous matches. The finishes were good, and it really picked up in the third fall. (Though, I am still disappointed Sugehit next landed the Asai plancha.) The crowd was more into this match from the start, but it didn’t feel like they knew these women as well. Sugehit using the satellite armbar she’s won with the last couple weeks to no reaction stood out as the crowd liking the idea of this match but not as diehard fans as you might expect. Thye should have new fans after this one; they did a lot of big stuff and it came thru well. The cradle reversal out of Sugehit’s armbar was cool, as was Zeuxis accidentally taking out a fan with a knee. Even the Spanish Fly went well, and that’s no guarnatee here.

The tercera served the purpose of getting the next big feud over in front of this crowd, but it didn’t come across as strong enough to get people to really care. I don’t think Negro Casas is into this right not as much as Blue Panther was from the start. Panther sold Adonis bigger as a foreign invader, while Casas more treats him as the guy he happens to be facing at this moment. The other guys around it weren’t much help. Cavernario/Rush sounds like an interesting match on paper, but Rush just kind of ate up Cavernario and that was that. Kraneo & Felino were not big factors.

Flip baffled the Mexicans

I misread the second match. It wasn’t another NGD exhibition. They were just taking the spot of the Hijos del Infierno or the Revolucionarios or any other midcard rudo stable, there to stooge around to set up the técnicos offense on a big show. That might have still worked great if the técnicos were Soberano, Mistico and Dragon Lee, but these guys weren’t quite as exciting. The técnicos did generally break out the best stuff in their cabinet (except Valiente’s mask and blond hair, which is about the worst look), but it’s also the same general stuff (except the Valiente moonsault) we get to see from them a lot. Forastero got to land his dropkick on a big show, and they looked good when they worekd as a team. There just could’ve been more of it. This still would’ve been a good show is this was the least quality match on it. It just was not.

The sole trios match which felt like luchadors going at top effort for a top show was the opener. I guess it really shouldn’t have been a surprise that the person who was the best when everyone was at their best was Hechicero. The second fall was just a showcase for all he could do, and he totally won over the crowd. (I wonder if he was watching some of the MYC, because the “leap into my submission hold” finish was seen there too.) This was a little messy at times, with Dragon Rojo and Pólvora not really connecting cleanly on things. It was still a lot of fun.

the end

CMLL Anniversary show today, LU on Season 4 & Sexy Star

Today’s the CMLL Anniversario show. Here’s that lineup one more time:

CMLL (SAT) 09/16/2017 Arena México
CMLL 84th Anniversario
1) Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
2) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
3) Kráneo, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
4) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis [mask]
5) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
6) Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero [mask]

This show start at 5pm local time, and is a $15USD iPPV on

I wrote a longer preview on Voices of Wrestling. CultIcon wrote a preview. CMLL’s preview still lists Diamante Azul. I think CMLL would’ve quietly disappeared him from the preview if he really wasn’t going to appear, so don’t go in hoping for a surprise appearance by someone else.

This would be one of the best Claro/YouTube cards they’ve done if this was a random Friday in June. It’s not right for an Anniversary show. Still the opener should be good, the women’s mask match should be good. NGD on a big stage should be crazy, and Flip Gordon has the right rudos to make himself a name in one night. The Peste Negra match is likely to be storyline over action, but the crowd will be into it.

The loudest I’ve ever heard someone get booed at a wrestling show, any wrestling show, is the Mistico/Mascara Dorada/Valiente vs Dragon Rojo/Polvora/Rey Escorpion trios match at an Anniversary. That was a great match, but the crowd hated it, hate the promotion, hated the concept of lucha libre because it followed Volador & Sombra winning the tag match so their mask match (and not Atlantis/UG) would be taking place that night. I do not know if the fans will show up to reject Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero quite as loudly, but something like that is in play for the main event. It’s also possible they’ll throw everything at the wall (need to count the stage dives tonight) and have something approaching a **** match in the main event just to prove they should be there – and still get booed along the way. These aren’t the right guys, but they’re not Diamante Azul & Pierroth. Most of the problem isn’t them, but how CMLL got to this point.

Lucha Underground

Lucha Underground EVP Eric Van Wagenen was on yesterday’s Masks, Mats & Mayhem, and there was some interesting LU related discussion

  • Season 4: “I’m still hopeful for it. There’s still conversations going on between the LLC (LU) and the network (El Rey).” El Rey still has the right to pick up the show for some (unsaid) amount of time. “I have no indications that we’re not coming back, the timing of it is just now in question.” Van Wagenen says he was on a call about (the potential) Season 4 just a few hours before the podcast – people are working on the situation, it has been forgotten. “It’s going to take some clever budgeting” (which confirms the obvious, it’s a money issue) but he thinks the doomsday stuff has been overblown.
  • El Rey had a crew at TripleMania, shooting some behind the scenes stuff. Some of the LU partners were there.
  • Sexy Star is not currently under Lucha Underground contract. She signed a 3 year deal, which expires at the end of these upcoming episodes. At the end of Season 3, LU was told she was leaving wrestling to go into boxing or maybe have another kid, which is the story she was telling everyone at the time. LU couldn’t fire her after TripleMania because she doesn’t work there any more, but it sounds like they will not be bringing her back because of that incident. “We have a zero tolerance policy for wrestlers intentionally hurting other wrestlers….We’ve let people go for that in the past.” (He avoids naming names there.) He can’t say she won’t be back for a Season 4 because they don’t have a Season 4 greenlighted, but they don’t want it back.
  • They really liked Lorenzo Llamas and just the idea of having Lorenzo Llamas on Lucha Underground, but Llamas wasn’t all that interested in acting due to his other businesses and asked to be wrapped up. So, he died on short notice. Chris DeJoseph came up with the death, and the eyeball squish.

Kevin Kross was also on the show. He says he still has the #1 contenders briefcase but we’re not seeing it because he doesn’t want someone else to take it. In less storyline news, Kross says he’s hoping for LU S4 like the rest of us, but has been working on backup plans if the show gets canceled.

Other Shows

Rockstar Pro (FRI) 09/15/2017 Rockstar Pro Arena, Dayton, Ohio[+LuchaTV]
1) Fly Star b Pompano Joe
2) Clayton Jackson b Mojo Mcqueen
3) Guerrero Maya Jr. b Zachary Wentz
4) Drastik Boy b Nate WingsMyron Reed
5) Alex Colon & Dustin Rayz © DQ Hijo del Solar & Solar I [Rockstar PRO TAG]
Billed as the last match for this title, which will be replaced by a trios title. Champions snuck in a foul on Solar Jr. to retain.
6) Trey Miguel © b Aeroboy [Rockstar Pro CHAMP]

Aeroboy/Miguel sounds like it was the best match of the night.

It’s one of the biggest weekends of the year:




LuchaWorld has a great obit of Ruben Juarez.

Revolucha says their next show will have Rey Mysterio & Rush, and they’ll announce the full card on Monday.

AAA officially announced the card for Heroes Inmortales. It’s the same as the most recent version they announced.

The Lucha World Cup will air on SamuraiTV on 10/17, and will include highlights of the LU/AAA show from the day before.

An interview with soon to be retiring Cordoba luchador Ringo Acosta.


MDA (SUN) 10/08/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Rielero & Vaquero Jr. © vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno [OCCIDENTE TAG]
2) Último Dragóncito vs Mini Rey Misterio
3) Esfinge & Magnum vs Trauma I & Trauma II
4) Dragón Lee (CMLL) & Hechicero (CMLL) vs Juventud Guerrera & Satánico
5) Último Dragón & Volador Jr. vs Laredo Kid & Negro Casas

The Ultimo Dragon anniversary shows will never end. That main event looks fun, and the semimain has a weird collection of people.

AAA TV (FRI) 10/20/2017 Palenque de la Feria, Metepec, Estado de México
1) Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa vs Australian Suicide & La Hiedra
2) Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzeloth vs Ángel Mortal Jr., Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr.
3) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs Monsther Clown & Murder Clown
4) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Texano vs ?, ??, ???
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown vs Kevin Kross & Rey Escorpión

AAA lineups a month form now mean nothing, especially after a PPV. I’d guess the idea is for Impact wrestlers in the semifinal, since those are the three guys appearing on GFW’s show. Looks like the Llave winners are just going to be grouped in with the Lanzeloth/Venum guys who aren’t much, which should produce really good matches if limit how big a star they’re going to be.