83rd CMLL Anniversary Show to take place on 09/02, won’t be as good as last few

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CMLL unexpectedly announced this year’s Anniversary show is Friday, September 2nd. That’s both weeks sooner than anyone had expected it, and not that many weeks away. CMLL has only five Friday nights events, including tonight’s show, before their biggest show of the year.

They also have no match on the level of the Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero/Volador/Sombra matches from the last three years. It was always going to be tough to follow those with anything, but the effort and the results aren’t close this year. La Mascara will likely be involved, but CMLL’s being meandering in it’s focus on a rivalry, and either Dragon Lee or Rush (or both if Shocker teams with La Mascara) might be the opponent. None of the feuds are particularly compelling; CMLL’s given La Mascara wins, but he hasn’t had an impressing outing, and just feels like a lesser version of rudo Sombra without the quality of wrestling or force of personality.

CMLL’s preview mentions that feud as one of several possibilities. Volador & Ultimo Guerrero are mentioned, and are facing off in the main event tonight, but it seems unlikely they’d be rushed to an Anniversary match after not really feuding much prior. (It does seem a better draw than Rush/Mascara.)  The Dragon Rojo/Guerrero Maya feud, that’s mostly been pushed on Informa and dropped in booking, is brought up. Also mentioned is the Rey Bucanero/Super Crazy match, and that actually does seem fairly likely given the timing, but it’d mean nothing as a main event match and would have to be a secondary apuesta match on the show. CMLL mentioning many different rivalries also leaves open the possibility of a cage match, which is what CMLL held last time they ran the Anniversary show this early in September (on the 3rd, back in 2010.) That cage match saw well liked (and recently returned) company solider Olimpico lose his mask; CMLL could do something similar with Pierroth this time along, but maybe I’ve gotten too cynical.

The 2010 show is one of the reasons I have a bad feeling about all of this. That was a cage match for lack of idea, coasting off the end of the last major boom. Announcing the Anniversary show 5 weeks ahead of time suggest CMLL doesn’t have many big plans for this one either. The advantage to running a big show early in September is so CMLL can come back with a second big show later in the month; back in 2010, they ran Volador/Mistico as a tournament final on the 17th. I’d suspect the same is going to happen, you might see something just as good (but a lot cheaper) if you go to show on the 16th or 23rd. The only other known Anniversary show on September 2nd was the 1966. They did two hair matches on that show, and brought the winners back for another hair match on the 30th. There’s almost certainly going to be another big show in CMLL later in September, but we might not know the date until 6 days before.

The September 2nd date makes it less likely wrestling fanatic foreigners will be going to the show. If you’re the type to travel to watch wrestling, you’ve likely already made plans to go to the Battle of Los Angeles or King of Trios. Conversely, if you were free and wanted to attend both major Mexico shows, you could go to Mexico and see both TripleMania & the CMLL Anniversary show in a week’s span. That doesn’t appeal to me, as a jaded type who’s seen both already, but it’s a good deal if you haven’t gone and just want to see AAA & CMLL for the first time at their peak. If I were a real journalist, I think that’s the week I’d have to go to Mexico. As an idiot with a blog, I believe I’m more likely to go around the weekend of the Chairo show, though I’m still not sure I’m going anywhere.

AAA’s TripleMania has a full card, and it’s happening 6 days earlier. There’s no indication of when CMLL might announced their card, although obviously the main event has to be made clear very soon. Like: tonight soon. NJPW World quietly added the last two CMLL Friday nights in August to it’s schedule recently, so they were probably told of the date in the last day or so.  CMLL itself decided the best idea to announce this was a press release late on Friday (the worst time to announce anything), which suggest they’re planning on setting up the main event tonight and the date was going to get out after anyway.

The CMLL Anniversary card could still really be good. They certainly have the luchadors to have a really good card, and those luchadors will go full out for the occasion. Almost nothing could follow Atlantis/Sombra anyway. It’s not like the other company’s main event is thrilling the readers of this site either, yet the rest of the show looks good. This will probably be a pretty good show overall, but there’s no way CMLL would run their biggest show of the year like this if they had the confidence in it as past years. It’s a definite red flag.

AAA taping in Toluca, Dragon Lee/Mascara, Elite results

tonight’s shows
ELITE (THU) 07/28/2016 Arena México [+LuchaTV, Box y Lucha]
1) Astral & Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Warrior & Pierrothito
2) Hechicero & Raziel b Heddi Karaoui & Pantera
Raziel replaced Blue Panther.
3) Jinzo & Rocky Lobo b Puma & Tiger
Very good.
4) Rey Escorpión b Máscara Dorada [Liga Elite]
Said to be very good.
5) Hijo De Dos Caras, La Máscara, Magno b Ángel de Oro, Golden Magic, Volador Jr.
La Mascara replaced Diamante Azul and pinned Volador.
6) Teddy Hart b Xtreme Tiger [cage, Liga Elite]
Long match. Xtreme Tiger did the required dive off the top of the cage. Teddy fouled Tiger and escaped.

Show seems like it had the usual level of turnout, maybe a little bit better, but really good matches. 3/4/6 were the standouts. This will air on Saturday night and Sunday morning. Reports different if the main event was considered a Liga Elite match or not; we probably won’t know until that TV show. Mascara Dorada & Rey Escorpion talked about their match, which appears to have been the best match of the night.

Tonight’s another Friday with both major promotions running, though in different places in Mexico. CMLL has it’s usual show in Arena Mexico, while AAA continues the road to TripleMania in Toluca. (The shows are about 90-120 minutes apart, depending on if Mexico City traffic is simply bad or if it reaches all the way to horrific.)

CMLL’s seemingly inconsequential main event is Marco, Maximo & Volador versus Shocker, Terrible and Ultimo Guerrero. Volador & UG have issues in Puebla, but that may not even come up tonight.

The big match on the night is the semimain, where La Mascara is again spotlighted, this time against Dragon Lee. Mascara had Dragon Lee beat two weeks ago in the Leyenda de Plata, only for Rush to run in to save his brother. Dragon said he didn’t want that help and that he wanted Mascara’s mask. La Mascara refused the mask match, but Dragon Lee is getting another shot at him in a singles match. Mascara versus is still considered the most likely Anniversary show for lack of any other promoted options; a Dragon Lee win would give them other options. (Shocker being around might mean something as well; he keeps jogging in and out of these feuds with no explanation.)

The other feud carrying over from previous weeks is another Rey Bucanero/Super Crazy trios match, with Vangellys, Bobby Z, Golden Magic and Sharlie Rockstar filling out both teams. Bucanero was talking about having either a title match or a hair match against Crazy, and it seems like one of those must be coming up soon. The concern is the hair match is actually the secondary apuesta match on the Anniversary show, which would be a significant step down from the quality of the previous years.

There’s nothing much going in the other three matches, but they generally look good. The old Estetas del Aire (Mascara Dorada, Mistico & Valiente) trio reunites to face the Peste Negra team of Cavernario, Felino and Negro Casas in what should be a pretty good match. Fujin and Raijin team up with old man Okumura against the somewhat useful team of Soberano Jr., Pegasso and Oro. The minis are in the opening again, with a good foursome: Electrico & Ultimo Dragoncito vs Mercurio & Pequeno Nitro.

CultIcon also previews today’s show.

CMLL’s show will start at 8:30 pm and airs on ClaroSports as usual. The show is not listed as airing on NJPW World today. Their schedule lists CMLL as next airing on August 20 & August 27, which are random seeming Fridays to pick this far ahead of time. Could those dates the first rounds for the Universal tournament?

AAA has it’s second to last taping prior to TripleMania tonight in Toluca. Some of the drama has been taken away from this show by announcing the TripleMania lineup last night, and it seems a general problem that the most interesting things involving AAA seem to be happening away from AAA’s TV tapings.

The main event is another Psycho Clown/Pagano match, this time in bull terrier rules. “Bull terrier” is known as a chain match outside of Mexico, with AAA usually using touch all the corner rules. AAA’s often had this match with a rudo referee, where the referee grabs the chain to stop the tecnico from getting to the fourth buckle at some point. Given Psycho’s remarkable rate of losses, this might be a time where he gets a win just to break the pattern. On the other hand, maybe Hijo del Tirantes costing the match is the justification for next taping’s “winner chooses the referee” stipulation. It’s going to be a ref heavy finish, either way.

The foreigners aren’t in AAA for this show, which leaves a lot of people who’ve been fighting Team Trump instead. The strange trio of Texano, Aerostar & Drago face Perros del Mal (Pentagon Jr., Daga and Joe Lider) in what should be a good trios match. Daga & Lider are semimain event on this show even though they were omitted from the TripleMania card announced yesterday; maybe they’re in the Copa TripleMania. The Apaches, Chessman and Averno are all on this show, which suggests they’ll get involved in each other’s matches once again. The tag champs team with Ricky Marvin against Argenis, Bengala and La Parka, while the Apaches team with Elegido against La Hiedra, Super Fly and Hijo de Pirata Morgan (a trio who literally never wins, and should be encouraging Averno to interfere.) Hijo de Pirata turned up in IWRG last Sunday, and suggested that wasn’t a one off, so there’s a slight chance he might not be in Toluca for this show. He hasn’t quit on Facebook yet, so I think AAA’s probably safe on this one.

It’s less clear who’s actually wrestling in the other matches. Jack Evans & Angelico have a normal tag match on TV for the first time in 392 days. We don’t know who they’re facing. It’s listed as a mystery team on the card, and AAA hasn’t hinted anything (which seems to be the normal procedure now.) We do know Matt Cross & Paul London and Fenix & Fantasma are scheduled to be teams at TripleMania, and it’s possible either team could make their first appearance as a pair tonight. (None of them have given anything away on Twitter.) It could also just be someone else, it doesn’t have to make sense in AAA. The opener is scheduled to be a rare AAA minis trios, with Lanzeloth, Mini Abismo Negro and Mini Histeria against Dinastia, Octagoncito, and Mini Drago, only Mini Drago’s quit the company and AAA hasn’t acknowledged it. The most likely switch is Lanzeloth moving to the tecnico side, and Mini Psycho Clown or Mini Psicosis being added to the rudo team.

AAA’s show is listed as starting at 8:45pm local. They usually get going about 20-30 minutes late, so figure more around 9:10. The show should air on August 13 & August 20th.

Aerostar will be in CHIKARA’s Rey de Voladors tournament, during the weekend of September 2nd. That’s the same weekend as PWG’s BOLA. I wouldn’t think AAA would run a taping the weekend after TripleMania, and it looks like a bunch of people are booked in the US anyway.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

LigerFever has a recap of the latest Podcast, with Blue Demon Jr. as a guest: part one, two, three.

So Cal Uncensored has a good interview with Thunder Rosa/Kobra Moon.

Segunda Caida reviews Gringo Loco & Skayde Jr. vs DJ Z & Bandolero.

Cross Arm Breaker reviews Emilio Charles Jr. vs Shocker.

Uproxx talks about Lucha Underground’s appear to latino fans.

Latin Flyer has a quick english language interview with Tiago (ex-Mini Charly Manson), who explains the name.

Teddy Hart has been added to ColiseoMania 4. Also, Pirata Morgan & Hijo del Pirata Morgan will face Garza Jr. & Ultimo Ninja for the Llaves y Candados tag titles.

A women of wrestling photo exhibit is opening in Monterrey this weekend, and there’s a lucha libre festival in Long Beach.

Ensenada’s Boxing, Lucha Libre, MMA commission has new regulations for shows, only the second time they’ve updated them since 1973. There’s no mention of wrestling, but I was amused to find out this only now make it legal for women to participate in combat sports in that city. Women had been on wrestling shows prior, mostly when AAA came thru.


lucha TV preview for weekend of July 29th


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CMLL Azteca US has the Gran Prix show, which had about 2 hours worth of stuff airing. I’d guess they either either the Gran Prix itself lightly edited, or both it and Cometa/Cavernario heavily edited.

Dave the Clown makes his anticipated debut on this week’s AAA Sin Limite. Also, Fenix vs Daga.

Teddy/Tiger went very long, so they might not be able to air 4 matches on Lucha Azteca 7 (Elite). Here’s hoping


LA Park & Rush suspended, Elite preview, IWRG results, Volador/Horuz

IWRG (WED) 07/27/2016 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Guerrero 2000 & Keiser Drago b Fly Tiger & Vardeus
2) Aramis, Fireman, Omega b Araña de Plata, Keshin Black, Skanda
3) Eddy Santos, Juana La Loca, Viajero Jr. b Avisman, Black Dragón, Yakuza
Avisman & Yakuza replaced Galaxy & Hijo del Alebrije.
4) Demonio Infernal b Dragón Fly
Demonio won in straight falls, leaving Dragon Fly blooded.
5) Judas el Traidor, Rosario Negro, Viajero Extremo DQ Black Terry, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon
Hijo del Alebrije replaced Emperador Azteca. Judas tried to foul Terry twice, Terry stopped him both times, so Judas just faked his own foul for the DQ. Singles match was set up.

Elite tonight has a Teddy Hart versus Xtreme Tiger in a cage, a cage only in the hopes the the novelty of doing a cage match will make up for the lack of star power. (It probably will not, at least in ticket sales, but the match will likely be insane.) TV (and only TV) explained Teddy Hart is a replacement for Bobby Lashley, who “could not come back to Mexico.” Lashley’s price has gone up after signing a new deal with TNA, and I guess that’s a sign that Elite actually has some monetary limit. Teddy takes over Lashley’s results, which would include the June 2nd win in Liga Elite over Extreme Tiger. Everyone faces each other once, so there shouldn’t be another Tiger/Teddy match if any one’s paying attention. People being replaced in a tournament is silly itslef, but if tonight’s Tiger/Teddy counts in the standings, the Lige Elite tournament is officially a farce. In Elite’s favor, I guess, is this tournament has completely failed to get over as a concept and I’d be mildly surprised if anyone else in the press points out how it doesn’t make any sense. They’ll get away with it fine.

The other Elite match, Rey Escorpion versus Mascara Dorada, is also almost a rematch. Escorpion seems to have taken over Negro Casas’ spot in the tournament, despite Casas being back and wrestling otherwise. Casas was supposed to have faced Dorada in Liga Elite on 04/20, but it was the first of his many absences in the match, and Dorada faced La Mascara instead. Escorpion & Dorada should be a great combination, and we’re sure getting some good Dorada matches at the moment.

It’s a good Elite card overall. The semimain is Volador Jr., Angel de Oro & Golden Magic against Diamante Azul, Hijo de Dos Caras and Magno, as Diamante Azul continues to work as a rudo on Thursdays and a tecnico all other days. The tercera is a great looking match with Jinzo & Rocky Lobo versus Tiger & Puma. (DTU praised Ronnie Mendoza for his CWC appearance; Elite is still listing him as Jinzo and said nothing.) The second match is set up to be a technical wrestling fight, between CMLL’s Blue Panther & Hechicero versus Elite’s Heddi Karaoui & Pantera. Pantera wrestled in his mask last time in Arena Mexico, a mask he’s lost in Arena Mexico, and his match did not air on Elite last time. Not sure it’ll air this time either.  The opener is a minis match with Astral & Ultimo Dragoncito versus Pierrothito & Pequeno Warrior. Warrior was the worst performing luchador in CMLL before he left in 2014 and hasn’t looked any better on the indies.

Again, CMLL has not put the Elite card on their own website.

ESTO has an interview with Sharlie Rockstar, who says he’s training wrestlers at Gimnasio Starman.

Leo Riano’s column in Record says LA Park & Rush were suspended for three weeks following their performance in their super libre match on the Elite show. It wasn’t for the violence, but specifically for the blood since a sponsor frowns on that. (Edgar’s freakout did happen after it was clear Rush was bleeding.) Riano notes the suspension is dumb and I agree. Rush did appear on the Leyenda de Plata show two weeks ago, so CMLL suspensions must be odd. A three week suspension would mean they’d both be free to appear starting with next week’s Elite show.

The same column mentions the Octagon reality show recently taped in Veracruz, where he decides a wrestler to get his original Dragon Dorado gimmick, will start airing in a month or so on AYM. The winner is already out; you can click here to find out, because it’s a faintly familiar team which is amusing if you remember how he ended up with that name.

Lucha Memes announced Chairo 5 on 09/25 in Arena Naucalpan. The first match is a pretty big deal
1: Volador Jr. vs Rey Horuz

They could have nothing the rest of the show and it’d still be a must see show. They’re again not allowing people to videotape the show, you’ll have to be there or not see it. It’s still unknown when CMLL will hold the Anniversary show; if it’s 09/23, it’s going to be a busy weekend (and that match still might be better than anything on CMLL’s show.)

CMLL’s changed Tuesday’s lineup, where Dragon Lee takes Diamante Azul’s place. I’d guess Diamante Azul is appearing in Guadalajara again as Caristico’s replacement.

CMLL has an articles on Rey Bucanero on his feud with Super Crazy and Maximo and Rey Escorpion’s title match next week.

Ronnie Mendoza says he’s proud of his performance in the Cruiserweight Classic, and would like to return to NXT or Japan. He was very nervous when they told him 2 million people would see his match on the network.

Cross Arm Breaker talks about Negro Casas vs Bestia Salvaje from October 18, 1996.

The new Podcast Boom includes an interview with Blue Demon Jr. (who’s noticeably not on TripleMania so far.)

Box Y Lucha’s today in history update mentions an Angel Blanco/Raul Reyes apuesta match we didn’t have on the luchawiki.

AAA announced Triplemanía XXIV (08/28) lineup; Pagano/Psycho, lots of LU appearances

AAA TV (SUN) 08/28/2016 Arena Ciudad de México, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) La Parka vs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 [TripleMania Cup]
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman
3) Angélico & Jack Evans © vs Matt Cross & Paul London and Aerostar & Drago and Fénix & Hijo del Fantasma [AAA TAG]
first defense
4) Pentagón Jr. © vs Johnny Mundo [AAA LA]
first defense
5) Marty Martinez, Matanza, Mil Muertes vs Dragón Azteca Jr., Prince Puma, Rey Misterio Jr.
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Texano Jr. © vs Cage [AAA HEAVY]
first defense
7) Pagano vs Psycho Clown [hair, mask]
Referee will be picked by winner of match on 08/19.

(Card may not be final; matches as mentioned on Twitter from people watching the press conference, the lineup hasn’t been officially posted as far as I can tell.)

Air Date: 08/28 (probably on local PPV and iPPV internationally), 09/10 & 09/17 on TV.

AAA held a press conference today to announce the lineup for their biggest show. (It was a surprise to us, but not to the press.) I was not around to watch it, but it’s still up on YouTube. AAA had previously formally announced the Pagano/Psycho, Mundo/Pentagon, and Averno/Chessman vs Apaches matches. Yet to air TV episodes set up the Wagner/Texano/Cage match. The other three matches were new today.

There’s quite a few foreigners, as six LU wrestlers (Marty, Matanza, Azteca, Puma, Cross/Havoc, London) appear in addition to the two regulars who might not be here without the connection (Mundo, Cage) to deepen the card. It’s a stronger on paper card for us because of their presence, though I’m not sure how much it’ll mean to the Mexican fans. Lucha Underground does not air in Mexico, only the hardest of international fans watch it, and most people have no idea who these guys are. That is not a guess. Dragon Azteca (or maybe Azteca Dragon Jr.) was a complete unknown to the press when he came in for the Lucha World Cup and had to explain he was Rey Horuz for people to know who he was. Same thing with Mil, but at least he and Matanza will have a distinctive look that makes it easy to get over. Marty should do well in that match, but he’s also been helped by lots of time on Lucha Underground to get the character over. Either AAA needs to do the same (when they don’t do vignettes for their own guys, and when most of Marty’s LU work includes non-person Sexy Star) or no one’s going to have any idea why he’s there. Marty’s probably just there to be the guy who gets pinned and I’m overthinking it, but it’s worth remembering the LU guys are really more a draw for an iPPV audience than the live crowd.

(And I guess it’s possible Marty’s spot might have been PJ Black’s spot if he didn’t take the Elite booking, since he fits in better, but who knows. Match should be great.)

The one person who will be a draw to everyone is Rey Misterio. It didn’t seem like he’d be back after he worked out his last required dates with the Lucha World Cup, given the reported issues with his contract and AAA’s breakup with Konnan. It didn’t make a lot of sense for AAA to use up their last contracted dates with Misterio on the LWC, but they must’ve been pretty sure they’d get him back for TripleMania and they did it. AAA’s hope was to be able to bring Rey back in from the big shows, and having him as the biggest star on the show will definitely help with this one.

Mesias never getting a TripleMania program makes a lot of sense if Mil Muerte’s is booked. It doesn’t seem like AAA announced anything but the luchadors, but there’s places where Catrina, Dario Cueto or Melissa Santos might fit in o the show too.

I feel like we’ve probably pounded the “Jack Evans hates multiman tag matches” joke into the ground, but the man just can’t escape them. Fenix & Fantasma, who are supposed to have a title match (and might get around to it in November), don’t quite make sense as a team but maybe there’s something happening in Toluca to explain it. Perhaps they’re the mystery team, or the foreigners are. It’s strange “Matt Cross” and not “Son of Havoc” is part of the four way tag match. Maybe that was a mistake that’ll be corrected later. Paul London was a agent for Lucha Underground Season 2 and came to Mexico for the Lucha World Cup in the same role. He might be helping out in that capacity again along with his match.

No one besides La Parka was announced for the TripleMania Cup, but AAA was weirdly specific in announcing 11 so they must’ve worked out the other 10 names (and worked out who’s instead working some 500 fan show in Aguascalientes the same day.) Parka is the favorite for all random trophies.

We don’t know who was left off until the rest of the Cup is announced, but there’s the obvious lack of the usual Relevos AAA opener at this point. (It could’ve just not been announced, an eight match wouldn’t be out of line. I don’t know if there’s a formal card being released today, but one hasn’t turned up yet.) The men and the exoticos might be included in the Cup battle royal, but that means no spot for the minis and no women working the show except for the Apaches. It’s inconceivable Taya would be left off a TripleMania. She’s got to be seconding someone, and perhaps that’ll play into the finish of the Mundo/Pentagon match.

The other notable omission is any TNA involvement, after their participation was strongly hinted at during the Lucha World Cup. I wonder if that’s a sign we’ll also not be getting English commentary, or if it’ll be Matt Striker back instead of Josh Mathews. Or something entirely different. (Update: AAA’s Twitter just said there will be English commentary for TripleMania. Details to come.)

I like this card much better than last year. Last year had matches which were obviously going to be horrendous (and were!) and matches where the participants were limited by absurd stipulations. The 4 way tag match will be great. Pentagon/Mundo will be great, at least up to the finish. The trios match will be great. The three way title match should be very good and possibly great. I’m rolling my eyes at the build up, but Apaches vs Chessman/Averno could actually be great depending on how they play it. There has never been a good lucha libre battle royal, but it’s 10 only minutes I’ll live. Pagano/Psycho will be in a style I do not like and not particularly well done, but the crowd will be into it so it’ll work OK. This is a card I’m looking forward to be seeing. TripleMania is missing a earth shaking, must see match, but it’s a strong card given what they’ve got available to them and I look forward to watch it.

Lucha Underground Season 3 premieres on September 7

There’d been plenty of hints of  a quick return for Season 3, and those panned out: today, Lucha Underground announced they’d be back on September 7th for the new season.

From Dusk Till Dawn returning on 09/06, as announced during the LU season 2 final, was indeed the tipoff. That show only goes 10 episodes, but the new strategy appears to be using the original shows to promote each other. This is such a quick turnaround; the show will be back before the Cruiserweight Classic final airs, for comparison sake. I’m confused as to why LU didn’t just announce the date at the end of the season 2 finale, but their audience is small and hardcore enough that I don’t think anyone’s going to miss finding out about it.

40 episodes is the longest season ever, one more than Season 1. This past season was only 25 episode, and there was frustration, both externally and internally, about it not being enough to tell the stories they wanted to tell. That shouldn’t be an issue this time.

If you haven’t been following along, Season 3 has already been completely taped, running from March until June. Chris DeJoseph has mentioning seeing the first episode complete already, and it’s possible more are already done.

I attended the last tapings of this run. Based on what I saw, Ultima Lucha 3 should start airing May 10th or May 17th and the Season 3 finale on June 7th. This season was also notable for matches being taped out of order and even a match or two which may not air. You may want to look for spoilers, and I know I’m going to be spending some time trying to put together a chart of when everything airs, but I also don’t have much hope of being 100% correct this time around. (I’m not sure even LU knew exactly when everything was airing when they were taping it, though it does all seem to make sense by the end.)

The next thing to watch is an announcement of a Season 4 pickup. There’s been talk about LU coming back to film in November, give or take a month, but they haven’t officially even been announced as getting another season of episodes yet. TV networks seem to announce renewals near the end of one season or the start of another one. Announcing a pickup after this start of Season 3 would give them enough time to tape in November, so everything seems to fit. It’d be amazing/crazy for LU to be taping parts of three different seasons in one year, but that’s the way the show works. (Announcements about Netflix or more international pickups would be nice, but there’s been no hint or movement on those in quite a while.)

That’s it. You’ve got August to do what you want, and they’ll see you back in September.

great match roundup, week of 2016-07-09

  • 07/09 AAA
  • 07/10 CMLL Sunday $1 YouTube rental spectacular
  • 07/11 CMLL Puebla
  • 07/12 CMLL Mexico
  • 07/13 Lucha Underground (Ultima Lucha Part 2)
  • 07/15 CMLL Claro

No Elite recap this week because they moved it to Saturday, moving it to next week in this totally arbitrary cut off. I dunno, I realized I have rated Leyenda de Plata higher than Elgin/UG and I’m not sure I agree with myself or this entire process.

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Mistico vs Dragón Lee, Volador Jr., La Máscara, Titán,Mephisto, Tritón, Cavernario, Guerrero Maya Jr., Ripper,The Panther, Virus in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-07-15 2016-07-15
great Último Guerrero vs Michael Elgin CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-10 2016-07-10
great Mil Muertes vs King Cuerno [death match] Lucha Underground: 2016-07-13 2016-01-31
good Psycho Clown © vs Pentagón Jr. for the AAA Latin American Championship AAA on Televisa: 2016-07-09 2016-07-03
good Astro, Asturiano, Último Dragóncito vs Espíritu Maligno, Mini Joker, Pierrothito CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
good Mephisto © vs Mistico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
good Blue Panther Jr. vs Sagrado in a lightning match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
good Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Kráneo, Okumura, Ripper CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
good Sexy Star vs Daga, Killshot, Mariposa, Marty Martinez, El Siniestro De La Muerte, Night Claw [Gift of the Gods] Lucha Underground: 2016-07-13 2016-01-31
good Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Luciferno CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-07-15 2016-07-15
ok Atomic Boy, Gotita de Plata, Lanzeloth, Venum vs Herodes Jr., Soul Rocker, Súper Fly, Tigre Cota AAA on Televisa: 2016-07-09 2016-07-03
ok Bengala, Garza Jr., La Parka vs Bestia 666, Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario AAA on Televisa: 2016-07-09 2016-07-03
ok Flyer, Pegasso, Templario vs Forastero, Maquiavelo, Skándalo CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-10 2016-07-10
ok La Máscara & Shocker vs Ripper, Atlantis, Volador Jr.,Tama Tonga, Diamante Azul, Kráneo in a seeding battle royal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok Diamante Azul & Rey Escorpión vs Rush & Volador Jr. in a tournament semifinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok Atlantis & Último Guerrero vs La Máscara & Sharlie Rockstar in a tournament semifinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok Atlantis & Último Guerrero vs Michael Elgin & Ripper in a tournament quarterfinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok La Máscara & Sharlie Rockstar vs Negro Casas & Shockerin a tournament quarterfinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok Kráneo & Kushida vs Diamante Azul & Rey Escorpión in a tournament quarterfinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok Rush & Volador Jr. vs Tama Tonga & Tangaroa in a tournament quarterfinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok Atlantis & Último Guerrero vs Rush & Volador Jr. in a tournament final match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
ok Astral, Fantasy, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
ok Estrellita, Lluvia, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
ok Rey Escorpión & Tama Tonga vs Kushida & Niebla Roja in a seeding battle royal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
ok Tama Tonga & Tangaroa vs Rey Escorpión & Shocker in a tournament semifinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
ok Kushida & Marco Corleone vs Felino & Niebla Roja in a tournament semifinal match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
ok Kushida & Marco Corleone vs Rey Escorpión & Shocker in a tournament final match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-12 2016-07-12
ok Máximo Sexy, Súper Crazy, Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-07-15 2016-07-15
ok Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Rush vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-07-15 2016-07-15
below average Black Tiger, King Jaguar, Oro Jr. vs Ares, Disturbio, Fuerza Chicana CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-11 2016-07-11
bad La Vaquerita & Skadi vs Reina Isis & Tiffany CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-07-15 2016-07-15
not rated Acero & Fantasy vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-10 2016-07-10
not rated Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-10 2016-07-10
not rated Diamante Azul, Kushida, Mistico vs Euforia, Tama Tonga, Tangaroa CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-07-10 2016-07-10
watch later Laredo Kid & Última Sombra vs Flamita & Mr. Elektro Noches de Coliseo: 2016-07-10 2016-06-19

08/19 AAA TV lineup (Veracruz)


AAA TV (FRI) 08/19/2016 Auditorio Benito Juárez, Veracruz, Veracruz
1) Gotita de Plata, Lanzeloth, Venum vs ?, Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
2) Big Mami, Mary Apache, Niño Hamburguesa vs El Apache, Lady Shani, Taya
3) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Dave The Clown, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Súper Fly
4) ? & ?? vs Aerostar & Drago and Daga & Joe Lider
5) Pentagón Jr. & Texano Jr. vs El Mesías & Hernandez
6) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario, Pagano [cage]
winning team will choose the referee for the Psycho/Pagano match at TripleMania.

Air Date: 08/27 & 09/03 – one show airs the night before TripleMania, one the week after.

So, Tirantes will be refereeing the apuesta match at TripleMania, until he gets taken out and Piero runs down to make the count, or Tirantes will decided to count three for Psycho even though it makes no sense. Whatever happens, AAA’s always established the referee is the important part and this just continues that.

If anything, this lineup makes me think Psycho Clown might actually stand a chance of winning in Toluca, just so he gets one win to go along with his million losses. He’s not getting that win here. It’s actually a clever stipulation, because they can announce the card before this taping without giving away the result to this match.

Semimain is Pentagon & Texano facing the two Trump guys they won’t face at TripleMania. Mesias not having a sure spot for TripleMania is very odd; maybe he does get added to the heavyweight title match to make it a four way.

There’s a mystery team at the Toluca taping facing Jack & Angelico, so it’s probably the same two guys in this match. A four way between these three teams and the tag champs seems the most likely way to squeeze them onto the card. I have no idea who the team could be, AAA’s done nothing to talk up the opponents, and I’m scared to find out. Broken Clown and Rotten Clown might be free. (We’re missing TNA guys on TripleMania, maybe that’s the way in.)

Dave the Clown gets moved up to the tercera because he’s kind of tall. Be tall, everyone. AAA’s spent all year running in place with Venum and Gran Apache and can’t be bothered to book them in the same match even when they’re on the same show. (Venum is not tall. Neither is Mocho Cota Jr. or Soul Rocker, who would be so much more useful and definitely more deserving to be in the tercera than Dave the Clown.) So they’ll just cost each other their matches, and continue running in place. One of these weeks is going to be a lame duck show, airing the week after TripleMania but having taken place before it, and those would be the weeks perfect for matches which couldn’t ever make a big show. That’s never how it works in AAA though, and the Venum/Apache feud will go onto until they someone gets hurt and they just forget about it.

The mystery spot looks like a spot for a mini rudo; it’s odd it’s not one of the Mini Vipers, and makes feel like there’s a Facebook post I missed. I would not have high hopes for whoever’s in that spot.

Next taping is TripleMania. It looks like that’ll air in order, so the next normal taping might not be as long as until the 09/17 weekend.

Escorpion/Maximo, CMLL title matches next week

bad times for The Panther
bad times for The Panther

CMLL (SUN) 07/24/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Domingos Familiares]
1) Black Sugar & Capitán Cobra b Diplomático & Guerrero de la Muerte
Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Évola & Mr. Apolo b El Yaqui & Javier Cruz Jr.
Rudos took 1/3, only losing the second by excessive violence DQ.
3) Johnny Dinamo & Randy DQ Carlo Roggi & Exterminador
Mr. Apolo & Evola ran in for the save, and Yaqui & Javier Cruz made the save.
4) Metatrón, Nautilius, Reyko b El Chakal, Sádico, Thunder Boy
Tecnicos took 1/3, Reyko beat Sadico to set up a title match next week, though Sadico took Reyko’s mask after the challenge.
5) Joker, Ráfaga, Ripper b El Divino, Magnum, Vaquero Jr.
Rudos took 1/3.

Nothing much exciting happens on these Guadalajara shows, but the booking generally makes sense.

CMLL (TUE) 07/26/2016 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, thecubsfan, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Bengala & Sensei b Apocalipsis & Cholo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE JULIO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:17. Tecnicos took 1/3. Bengala replaced Robin on Friday
2) El Cuatrero, Sangre Azteca, Sansón b Hombre Bala Jr., Magnus, Robin LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE JULIO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:30. Rudos took 1/3. Robin replaced Starman.
3) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE JULIO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:52. Rudos took 2/3.
4) Luciferno b The Panther [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE JULIO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:55, Luciferno winning clean with a Luciferno Clash
5) Euforia, Felino, Hechicero b Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE JULIO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:00. Rudos took 2/3. Rey Cometa replaced Mascara Dorada (moved to GDL) on Tuesday.
6) Ephesto, Rey Escorpión, Ripper b Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 26 DE JULIO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5:50. Rudos took straight falls. Escorpion got away with a foul on Maximo to set up a heavyweight title match show.

Boring show. Escorpion/Maximo might be good next week, but this week wasn’t much. These shows had a low hit rate when they were on Cadena3, but at least it was a shorter show.

No Lucha Underground this week. No Lucha Underground the next five weeks. Lucha Underground is back probably some time in 6 to 10 weeks.

Triton was back off the ROH lineup at last check. Perhaps he’ll be back on a third time by the time you read this.

Chilanga Mask 08/21 show in Coacalco
1: Black Terry vs Wotan
2: Caifan 3 vs Solar
3: Roberto Paz Jr. vs Jeque
4: Laredo Kid vs Extreme Tiger vs Jason Kincaid
5: The Platino & Mr. Maldito vs El Sagrado & Bobby Z
6: David Crist & Jason Gory vs Akon (Arez) & Impulso
7: Dorado Jr. & Mr. Leo vs Fulgor I & Chicano vs Fulgor II & Sangre Dorada
8: Terremoto Negro vs Hijo de Alebrije vs Aramis vs Psycho Kid vs Hijo del Angel vs Kronoz vs Novasonic vs Dragon Fly

A video promo for ColiseoMania 4 (09/04 Monterrey) has Dr. Wagner Jr., Blue Demon Jr., Konnan, Garza Jr., Willie Mack, and Moose.

Dollar talks about the XMW 5th Anniversary show.

Chessman says he and Averno have surprises in store for the Apaches, though this seems more like the generic surprises.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Proyecto Suplex writes about Maximo vs Kamaitachi

Segunda Caida reviews King Haku, Pegasus Kid, Vampiro vs Black Magic, Mocho Cota, Pierroth Jr.

Cross Arm Breaker reviews Charly Manson vs Zorro and La Parka vs Muerte Cibernetica.

CultIcon writes about Teddy Hart.

Tinieblas describes his next project as a sort of rock opera.


IWRG (SUN) 07/31/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Fireman vs Guerrero 2000
2) Aramis & Keiser Drago vs Araña de Plata & Picudo Jr.
3) Astro, Black Dragón, Zatura vs Demonio Infernal, Skanda, Violencia Jr.
4) Emperador Azteca, Freelance, Pantera I vs Cerebro Negro, Hip Hop Man, Relámpago
5) Chicano, Hijo del Pantera, Pantera vs Negro Navarro, Toscano, Trauma II
6) Mr. Electro & Trauma I vs Canis Lupus & Máscara Año 2000 Jr.

The four guys who’ve been feuding for the last few months continue feuding.

CMLL (MON) 08/01/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & Millenium vs Espíritu Maligno & Saurón
2) Black Tiger, Rey Samuray, Starman vs Ares, El Cuatrero, Sansón
3) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Felino, Puma, Tiger
4) Dalys © vs Lluvia [CMLL WOMEN]
5th defense
5) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Mistico, Shocker, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]

CMLL’s recap of last Monday’s show has Volador challenging for a title match, which I don’t recall actually happening but maybe it was supposed to happen. It’s not happening next week, but perhaps that’s what the main event is setting up. Dalys is likely to remain champ. No King Jaguar; apuesta matches are often the end of run for Puebla locals.

CMLL (TUE) 08/02/2016 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Magnus, Oro Jr., Starman vs Canelo Casas, Metálico, Nitro
3) Hombre Bala Jr., Soberano Jr., Tritón vs Disturbio, Skándalo, Virus
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Luciferno, Pólvora
5) Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol, Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
6) Máximo Sexy © vs Rey Escorpión [CMLL HEAVY]
8th defense

A show. Escorpion & Maximo had a title match nearly a year ago in Guadalajara, but the video never turned up. They’ve had good matches in their past

CMLL (TUE) 08/02/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Capitán Cobra & Johnny Dinamo vs Carlo Roggi & Linterna
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, La Seductora, Reyna Isis
3) Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Súper Porky vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Vangellys
4) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
5) Carístico, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Euforia, Mephisto

Caristico said last week that he’d be out a month, so I have no earthly idea why would be advertised for this show. No one’s really explained what the deal with Super Porky, but he’s advertised as well. I wonder if Dorada will be advertised for months after he’s gone.

CMLL Domingo: 2016-07-10

Elgin treats UG like UG treats the rest of the world
Elgin treats UG like UG treats the rest of the world

Recapped: 07/11/2016

What happened: CMLL offered a show after the fact as a $1 VOD, to the surprise of all. I only paid a lot of attention to the main event and the rookie debuts. Ultimo Guerrero defeated Michael Elgin in a non title match.

What was good: Elgin/UG was very good. Could skip the rest, though the Stuka trios seemed fine.

Where can I watch it: It’s still on CMLL’s channel for $1. (more…)