CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-11-08

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Tercera Caida leaves TVC Deportes, the Young Bucks aren’t coming LU

only a couple of items today due to time constraints; maybe no links until Saturday.

Jose Manuel Guillen announced Tercera Caida has left TVC Deportes. The last episode was on the 17th, they usually run special shows around this time but instead they’re just done after nine and a half years. You can hear JMG talk about in the YouTube link, but they’ll be continuing on with the +LuchaTV YouTube channel project as a group and he’s moving onto a new job, and they hope to be able to bring the show back on a different network. (I don’t know how it works in Mexico, but JMG and Bernardo were the ones who came up with the show name and concept, so it’s possible it can just land complete on a different network.)

This was a sudden announcement, but it did not seem to be a total surprise to the people involved with Tercera Caida. JMG hinted back at this when we had him on the podcast back in September. Just generally, his level of optimism with TVC Deportes changed quite a bit from when we talked him in 2013 and 2014. TVC Deportes itself is going thru some hard times – they lost the cable rights to WWE Raw, and they were taken off cable/satellite systems. At the time, articles were predicting doom for the network, and now it sounds like they’re shifting more onto football/soccer to try to fight off that doom. Tercera Caida was still good, and the network might have still thought it was good, but it was a causality of other events.

Tercera Caida was one of the best parts of lucha libre. I hope they’ll be back soon, and they’ll be missed until they do get back. There’s really nothing on their in lucha libre – in wrestling in general – that can replace them. I also think a great wrestling show and quality wrestling programming in general would be a good addition to any cable network looking to draw in a new group of eyeballs, and hope someone figures that out quick.

I would assume, but I’m not certain, this is also why CMLL’s Puebla TV has disappeared from TVC Deportes. Guillen been the lead announcer on that show, though his cohost changed 3 times in 2014 after Bernardo left. CMLL’s shifted those Puebla matches onto other networks when they’ve lost the TVC Deportes deal in the past. Not sure if they will again.

The Young Bucks sent out a series of Twitter messages on Tuesday, feeling disrespected with a contract offer sent to them (much less than they can get elsewhere.) They narrowed the list of companies who sent it, and then turned into a joke when they narrowed it down a little bit too far. The bad contract figured to be Lucha Underground based on the clues and the Wrestling Observer Newsletter confirmed that to be the case. It reads as if it’s the same seven year low money offer given to people back in the fall.

I’m not thrilled that a) no Young Bucks on the show and b) this is the exact same cycle as happened before the first tapings (wrestling LU people promise things to indy guys, other LU people send bad contract, indy guys are offended and make sure every one knows) and it appears no one’s learned anything and we all get to go thru it again. At least it should be a shorter list this time.

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-11-09


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AAA on Televisa: 2014-11-08


taped 2014-10-12 @ Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosi, San Luis Potosí

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Cholo/Ramstein vs Soberano/Star set for 01/06, Pequeno Reyes del Aire

photo by Alexis Salazar

CMLL (TUE) 12/30/2014 Arena México [CMLL, Notimex]
1) Acero & Fantasy b Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Sensei, Soberano Jr., Star Jr. b Cholo, Inquisidor, Ramstein
straight falls. Star Jr. & Soberano again demanded a  mask match, and Cholo & Ramstein agreed this time.
3) Hombre Bala Jr., Stigma, Súper Halcón Jr. b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Nitro
4) Sangre Azteca b Pegasso [lightning]  (posted by Rob Viper)
Sangre submitted Pegasso in 7:22.
5) Blue Panther Jr., La Máscara, Super Porky b Morphosis, Niebla Roja, Olímpico
Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Máximo, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Felino, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero
Tecnicos took 1/3, Volador sneaking in a foul on Rey Bucanero. Volador said they all forgot Volador knows how to be a rudo too, and he wants that hair match. Bucanero declined.

More Volador/Bucanero in the main event, but it’s going somewhere.

CMLL recap doesn’t list the opener, calls Morphosis “Histeria.”

CMLL (TUE) 12/30/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara Facebook (1), Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara Facebook (2), Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara Facebook (3),Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara Facebook (4), Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara Facebook (5), Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara Facebook (6)]
1) Artillero & Súper Comando b Brillante & Metatrón
2) Maléfico, Puma, Tiger b Demonio Maya, Starman, Tritón
Demonio Maya replaced Omar Brunetti.
3) La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Marcela b Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
Dalys replaced Amapola on Friday.
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, The Panther b Bárbaro Cavernario, Hechicero, Virus
5) Mr. Águila, Mr. Niebla, Shocker b Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán
6) Mephisto b Máscara Dorada

Dorada’s going to need more luck on Friday.

No known shows anywhere due to New Year’s Eve. That makes some sense for Christmas, but it does feel like the night for a crazy hardcore show (with the ring blowing up at midnight, that sounds like something they’ve actually done in Japan.) There’s a monsoon of shows tomorrow.

I missed this from a week ago, but El Hijo del Santo said Todo x el Todo will return and is interested in hiring Octagon, but believes signing Alberto or Myzteziz would not be viable. No dates or locations were specified. Santo also ‘reveals’ he and the late Jose Sulaiman were planning on creating a national commission for lucha libre, to combat issues like Silver King putting his mask back on and Konnan Big’s continued existence.

Mr. Niebla pulled Atlantis’ mask for the DQ on Monday in Puebla.

LA Park defeated Atlantis & Dr. Wagner Jr. in a usual foul/mask pull filled match in Monterrey. They’re still teasing Park vs Atlantis.

Sunny War Cloud passed away yesterday.

Toro Bill Jr. won the Arena Coliseo San Ramon Copa Junior tournament, over Paris.

Caifan & Silver Star defeated Negro Navarro & Dr. Cerbero in a great match in Terraza Elma (outside of Monterrey) on Sunday.

Sarcistan del Diablo took Dr. Boris’ mask in Arena Aficion. Dr. Boris is Daniel Quiterio.

Shira took Dama de Hierro’s hair in Monterrey.

Nicho says he’s suspended from Juarez for a month for hitting a security person during a brawl. That must’ve been on the 12/13 show, when he and Damian faces Aereo & Pagano.

LLNEI has photos of the LuchaRama show. The building looks packed.

Impulso talked about his upcoming handicap match against Pagano.

RobViper has music videos of AAA March 1994 Toluca, mid February 2000 AAA, and 09/07/14 AAA.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Super Nova vs Trauma II and a trios match from Christmas Day’s CaraLuchas show. +LuchaTV has highlights of the first match too.

Sunday’s Fuego en el Ring had Titan as a guest. Super Libre interviews Malefico.

Segunda Caida reviewed Terrible, Texano Jr., Vangelis vs Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara


CMLL (TUE) 01/06/2015 Arena México
1) Magnus & Starman vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
3) Astral vs Eléctrico, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito, Shockercito, Demus 3:16, Pierrothito, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Nitro, Mercurio [Pequeno Reyes del Aire]
4) Soberano Jr. & Star Jr. vs Cholo & Ramstein [mask]
5) Dragón Rojo Jr., La Máscara, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
6) Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero

Instead of doing main events on Friday and Sunday, they’ve moved them all to Tuesday. Volador and Rey Bucanero have their singles match and the Pequeno Reyesl del Aire takes place. It’s a pretty packed show.

past Pequeno Reyes del Aire winners
2007: Pequeno Damian 666
2008: Mascarita Dorada
2009: Pequeno Warrior
2012: Ultimo Dragoncito
2012 (GDL): Pequeno Warrior
2013: Aereo
2014: Electrico

No Stukita this year, but a good group of rudos. Nitro & Mercurio are the best secret tag team of 2014.

recent January apuesta matches
2014: none (they did an undercard Copa Junior instead)
2013: Bobby Zavala & Disturbio b Leono & Tigre Blanco – end of Tigre Blanco in CMLL
2012: Hombre Bala Jr. & Super Halcon b Rayo Tapatio I & Rayo Tapatio II – end of Rayo Tapatios in CMLL

Ramstein and Cholo aren’t just underdogs, this could also be the end of one or both of their CMLL careers.

Not to run this bit into the ground but: the kid’s focused Three Kings Day would’ve be a great time for Mistico to return. Mistico is still not back. Mistico’s said to be wrestling in Osaka a week from this show, but I dunno. We’ll know in a few days.

CMLL (TUE) 01/06/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Virgo vs Évola
2) Esfinge & Metatrón vs Exterminador & Maléfico
3) Fuego, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Hombre sin Nombre, Kráneo, Olímpico
4) Dragon Lee, Máscara Dorada, Rey Cometa, Titán, Tritón vs Demonio Maya, Ephesto, Mephisto, Mr. Águila, Pierroth [cibernetico]
5) Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

Maximo and Valiente are not going to FantasticaMania because he’s too busy main eventing every single day. Really fun tecnicio side for the random cibernetico, maybe not so much on the rudo side.

great match roundup, week of 2014-11-08

Good/Great/Excellent matches
Lucha Underground: 2014-11-12
taped 2014-09-13 @ Lucha Underground Temple, Boyle Heights, Los Angeles, California
Fénix vs Pentagón Jr., Drago – [EXCELLENT]

AAA on Televisa: 2014-11-08
taped 2014-10-12 @ Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosi, San Luis Potosí
Angélico vs Jack Evans, Joe Lider, Hijo del Fantasma ©, Bengala, Aerostar, Súper Fly, Steve Pain for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship: [GOOD]

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-11-08
taped 2014-10-31 @ Arena México
Rush vs Último Guerrero: [GREAT]

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-11-09
taped 2014-10-28 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Black Panther, Blue Panther, Cachorro vs Kamaitachi, Okumura, Tiger: [GOOD]

Shows Watched But Nothing Worthwhile
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-11-08

Matches To Watch Later

CMLL Puebla: 2014-11-10
taped 2014-10-13 @ Arena Puebla
Arkalis & Rey Samuray vs Centauro de Fuego & Rey Apocalipsis:


CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-11-01


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CMLL notes for tonight, Chilanga Mask in Puebla

No Puebla results; Periodico Enfoque doesn’t have the recap. Probably the writer has the week off. Something happened with Mr. Niebla/Atlantis, since they have a title match.

CMLL’s main event tonight has Maximo, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, and Rey Bucanero, the tecnicos teaming up against Peste Negra team. It should be a little different Felino and Rey Bucanero having to deal with each other as much as the tecnicos, but it’s probably a lot of another comedy focused match. Star Jr. & Soberano Jr. face Cholo, Ramsiten in the segunda. The 01/06 match seems like the right day to do the match, but CMLL still hasn’t said anything about it happening – either it’s really obvious it’s happening tonight or it’s some other day. CMLL’s preview mentions Stigma in Sensei’s place, but still has him in the tercera as well. Possibly typo, possible busy night. Pegasso vs Sagnre Azteca is the YouTube lightning match.

Mascara Dorada starts off a busy week tonight in Guadalajara. He face Mephisto (in a match that’ll air on 01/10), then has the Negro Casas title match this Friday (also airs 01/10 in Mexico, 01/17 in US.) As mentioned previously, Mascara Dorada had zero CMLL singles matches this year, but will suddenly have two in the next five days. There’s a really good fourth match, Guerrero Maya, Rey Coemta, The Panther vs Barbaro Cavernario, Hechicero and Virus, which is Cavernario’s last match before his title match on Saturday vs Titan.

On December 30th, 2014, CMLL decelerated the biggest stars of the past week were the Hermanos Dinamitas. Negro Casas & Mascara Dorada, competing for a world title, were #2 and #3. (And the winner will probably be #1 next week.) Kemonito & Periko tied at 10. The text for that mentions fans coming to the 01/06 will be able to take a picture with the mascots – Mije too.

Lucha Underground posted a teaser for Aztec Warfare. El Rey will be airing a marathon on New Year’s Eve, and again on 01/07 leading up to the new show.

Mr. Coyote took the mask of the Xalapa based Zafiro (who actually turned out to be from Tabasco.)

Rob has a music video of 08/29/14 CMLL.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of the Violento Jack vs Ciclope no mat match from DTU.

+LuchaTV has highlights of the Guardianes de la Galaxia & Kastigador vs Tortuga Ninjas & Criss Boy from the Lucha Memes show, as well as the dance the winners got. There’s also highlights of Traumas vs Herodes/Metalico and Segura/Freelance from that show, and of Galaxy vs Kratoz vs Violento Jack from LuchaRama.

CaraLucha promo for the Traumas vs Texano/Nova.

Ohtani’s Jacket reviews El Hijo del Santo, Misterioso, Ultimo Dragon vs. Emilio Charles Jr., Fuerza Guerrera, La Fiera, CMLL 11/22/91 and Ultimo Dragon vs Negro Casas.

Segunda Caida reviews Rey Hechicero vs Black Terry.

Photos from Deportivo Lee Roy’s final show.


CHILANGA MASK (SAT) 01/17/2015 Arena Coliseo San Ramón, Puebla, Puebla
1) Arez, Belial, Impulso vs Rey Dragon, Rey Fenix, Tonak
2) Keira vs Orion
3) Asturiano vs Judas el Traidor
4) Tigre Rojo Jr. & Toro Bill Jr. vs Trauma I & Trauma II
5) Black Terry & Negro Navarro vs Tigre Rojo & Toro Bill Sr.

Chilanga’s stop in the new Puebla arena. Top two matches could be good, but the Tigre Rojos and the Toro Bills are constantly at war and will have to work together here. Other matches should be good – Rey Fenix is a well regarded Puebla flyer.

CMLL (MON) 01/05/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger, Robin, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Artillero, Policeman, Súper Comando
2) Astral, Astro, Asturiano vs Demus 3:16, Espíritu Maligno, Saurón
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Marcela vs Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Máximo, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Pólvora
5) Atlantis vs Mr. Niebla

Astro is probably Astro Aereo Jr., who was last here in October. I wonder if Estrellita or Zeuxis will actually wrestle in that match.

12/27-28 lucha videos

IWRG was a rerun of the cage match show. Puebla didn’t air and isn’t on the schedule at the moment – no idea if it’s off TVC Deportes or it’s just because they’re showing a lot of other sports. CMLL still isn’t airing on TV Mexiquense, I taped that all weekend just to be sure.

The current version of CMLL on Terra on DailyMotion is no good; I think I’ll put up a good version on YouTube as an experiment.

AAA, a second part of their year in review, will be up later. AAA will have it on their YouTube channel.

Anyone got a better idea than

YouTube playlist:
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on CMLL, lists, recording streams and the general state of things

This is a either brilliant or dumb stuff no one cares about that illustrates why you need someone to stop you from posting things late at night. I will probably delete this in the morning. I’ve likely had too much caffeine. I will definitely delete this in the morning.
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