2017 watch later catch up, part 1 of ∞


In this post,

  • Rey Hechicero vs Caifan
    Cholo de Tijuana, Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California, 01/06/2017 
  • Blue Panther, Stigma, The Panther vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
    CMLL, Arena Coliseo, 01/21/2017
  • Freelance vs Aramis vs Araña de Plata vs Demonio Infernal vs Black Dragón
    IWRG, Arena Naucalpan, 01/22/2017 
  • Imposible vs Relámpago for the IWRG Intercontinental Middleweight Championship in a super libre match
    IWRG, Arena Naucalpan, 01/22/2017 
  • Templario © vs Corsario Negro Jr. [CaraLucha The Best]
    Cara Lucha, Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 02/04/2017 
  • Volador Jr. vs Fénix El Rey
    Cara Lucha, Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 02/04/2017 

I’m kind of forcing myself to get started with this, because I’ve got more time now to do it (though these seem to take a lot longer than normal TV recaps) and maybe I won’t have the time later. There’s still a bunch left from the first two months of the year to catch up with, it just does not stop.

The MOTYC list should go up soon.


great match roundup, week of 2017-02-11

I watched some TV, played some video games this week. It was so weird. I did not see many good matches, which is very normal. Things are going to be much busier a month from now. There’s an AAA match on the top of the list, which is a bit sorted randomly but still not something I see every week. There’s also so much just skipable stuff.

rating matches TV Show taped
good Dinastía, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce vs Mini Psycho Clown, Parka Negra, Soul Rocker AAA Worldwide desde Toluca Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Febrero 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Dinastía, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce vs Mini Psycho Clown, Parka Negra, Soul Rocker (posted by thecubsfan) Lanzelot, Dinastía y Mascara de Bronce VS Parka Negra, Soul Rocker y Mini Psycho Clown (posted by ENTRE SEGUNDA Y TERCERA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-02-11 2017-01-27
good Fuego vs Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma, Okumura, Pólvora, Sagrado, Skándalo, Virus in a cibernetico match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-02-13 2017-02-13
good Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-02-17 2017-02-17
good Dragón Rojo Jr. & Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Atlantis & Euforia in a National Parejas Increible Tournament match and [8f] CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-02-17 2017-02-17

everything else

Volador versus Ephesto & Euforia, La Rebelion in Monterrey, FULL/Dristomanía

CMLL (SUN) 02/19/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Quca b Avispón Negro Jr.
Quca took 2/3.
2) Cosmos & El Alteño b Thunder Boy & Vitela
Vitela (new?) replaced Relampago. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Linterna & Mr. Brisa b Mágico & Reycko
Reycko was hurt in the second fall, leading to a straight fall win.
4) Explosivo, Metatrón, Neutrón b Demonio Rojo, Difunto, Gran Kenut
tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Flash II, Star Black, Vaquero Jr. b Frezzer, Furia Roja, León Blanco
tecnicos took 1/3.

Vitela hasn’t wrestled before, so maybe that’s a typo I haven’t grasped yet. Reycko leaving a match injured might be important later, since he’s supposed to debut this Sunday in Arena Mexico in the minis cibernetico. I’d guess he’ll be in that match if it all possible.

CMLL (MON) 02/20/2017 Arena Puebla [CultIcon, El Popular]
1) Flyer, Millenium, Zaeta Roja b Guerrero Espacial, King Jaguar, Perverso LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Lestat, Pegasso, Tigre Rojo Jr. b Disturbio, Espíritu Maligno, Policeman LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper b Blue Panther Jr., The Panther, Tritón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Ángel de Oro, Máximo Sexy, Valiente LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Niebla Roja, Yoshitatsu LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Euforia fouled Volador, then fouled Tirantes too. This set up a Volador/Euforia match for next week.

Sounded like a show of a lot of OK matches, and a main event angle to set up a match next week. Maybe someone in CMLL decided just to push everyone with E to start their name and big times are coming for Espanto Junior? I dunno, Volador/Ephesto should at least be good.

CMLL’s told the press there will be a press conference on Wednesday to decide the main event of Homenaje a Dos Leyendas. There’s other feuds – Volador wants to face Cavernario! – but the thing that’s gotten the spotlight has been Diamante Azul versus Pierroth. Like I wrote on Saturday, it’s not official until they do the contract signing, but doing the contract signing already is not a good sign for people hoping for a good match. The Informa guests were announced as Princesa Sugehit, Pequeno Joker, Reycko, Pequeno Relampago, Diamante Azul, and Ultimo Guerrero. CMLL usually has one or both of the people in the contract signing on Informa after, and Diamante Azul is right there.

Today’s Arena Mexico has a strange main event. Volador defending the NWA Welterweight Championship title isn’t weird, but Ephesto getting the title shot is odd. There’s so many interesting people could’ve picked, and it’s as if CMLL couldn’t get Mephisto so they went to the next guy in the normal trio. Ephesto’s match with Guerrero Maya last December was his first singles match outside a tournament in years, and he hasn’t been in a singles title match since losing the CMLL Light Heavyweight Championship to Rush in 2011. Ephesto’s not the worst guy in CMLL, but his performance is about what you’d expect when I’m defending him by saying he’s not the worst. Ephesto was a great luchador when he was young and a perfectly OK singles luchador who was useful in trios for many years, but he’s slowed down since passing the age of 50. This main event isn’t really a great use of Volador, or Ephesto, or a Tuesday CMLL show in general. The most positive theory I can think of is CMLL getting Ephesto some solo ring team to set up a mask loss, which he’s kind of over due for, but there’s no real feud set for him right now. There might be a Volador/Ephesto challenge after this match (which could help build suspense for tomorrow’s announcement), but there’s nothing that close.

The upper half of the card looks like better than usual for the Monday/Tuesday shows, but the opening matches are not so great. The semimain has Titan, Mistico and Maximo facing off against Cavernario, Casas and Mephisto. The fourth match has a unique match of Puma & Tiger teaming with NGD’s Sanson against Rey Cometa, Fuego and Stigma. That could steal the show. The women are in the tercera, with Sanely, Skadi and Princesa Sugehit versus Zeuxis, Tiffany and Reina Isis. That’d be a good time to do a Sugehit/Zeuxis feud before their match on Saturday. Principe Diamante has his best chance to get a win yet, teaming with Starman & Oro Jr. against Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo and Espanto Jr. (back from injury). The show opens with Metatron & Bengala vs Inquisidor & Apocalispis, a very skippable match.

CultIcon also previews the show, which airs at 7:30 pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Guadalajara has Atlantis, Diamante Azul and Valiente versus Pierroth, Rush & Yoshitatsu tonight. Their facebook says Hechicero will replace Dragon Rojo in the semimain. It’s not clear if Dragon Rojo’s wrestled since he was hurt on Saturday; he was scheduled for a match on Sunday in Delta.

CMLL posted the minis cibernetico from Sunday. They still haven’t mentioned it anywhere but it’s on their YouTube if you look for it.

CMLL’s also changed the Sunday card from what was listed in Box Y Lucha. They’re adding a Mistico vs Cavernario to replace the trios semimain. Titan & Gran Guerrero replace Blue Panther Jr. & Tiger in the second match, and everyone else is just not booked. If CMLL is going to post the cibernetico from this show too, they should do something with Mistico/Cavernario.

La Rebelion held a press conference last night in Monterrey. There was a lot of talking about their situation with AAA, though not much new if you’ve been following so far. (You should check out the translation of Penta’s interview with Los Reyes del Bitiful for more, especially his thoughts on PWG and Chris Hero.) They did announce a The Crash/Llaves y Canados show at Arena Coliseo Monterrey on April 9th with all these guys. They also aired a video announcing Garza Jr. & Zorro vs Cibernetico & TBA for next week.

Konnan and Octagon, who said very not nice things about each other last year, are now old friends meeting on Sunday at Arena Coliseo Monterrey. Changing times makes for changing feelings about each other.

FULL held a press conference today, with the same Octagon and Alberto el Patron. Tinieblas pushed this as the start of the new era for his promotion, but there wasn’t a lot of new news. As with recent AAA press conferences, the promotion put out the main details (Dristomanía on May) out on social media first, and then just mostly repeated that again for the sake of TV cameras. Maybe there will be more later, but there was a lot of Twitter posts from reporters saying they were at the FULL show, and then not a lot of actual news following that up. They put out a list of people scheduled to appear, which also includes Blue Demon Jr., Zorro, Cibernetico, Garza Jr., among usual names. (The Argentina guys are going to be back by then, it appears.) Alberto said Dristomanía was the start of a deal to send talent back and forth between the UK and FULL. The UK Hooligans (who are Paige’s brothers) and Drew McIntyre (a good friend of Alberto) have been announced as coming into from the UK; I’m skeptical there will be more to it until it’s announced.

Everyone needs to stop using Mania in their new names.

Alberto also posted a note on Facebook that he was coming to Lucha Libre Elite. That’s a pretty good sign Elite is alive, and Alberto is a big enough star to keep them on TV. Plus, Combate Americas is on Azteca, so it could be a good tie up. There’s still no news on when Elite might be running.

Prensa Libre has a story about Mascara Negra, a Guatemala luchador who passed away after a match in 1964. He was only 29. He’d been complaining about chest pains after a match on February 1, went to the doctor, and his wife said the doctor told him it was no big deal and gave him so pills. He had two more matches, appearing to have broken a rib somewhere along the way but just taping up his chest and going, before returning to the hospital on February 10th and passing away. The doctor disputed the story afterwards, and an investigation says Mascara Negra was referred for future treatment after the first visit, but didn’t go back until it was very severe.

ESPN’s wrestling section writes about Marco Corleone, wrestler and telenovela star. I think being in the media hub of Mexico City many times a week helps in getting this attention for Sam Adonis and Marco. They’re not sending reporters to Tlaxcala for lucha libre stories (which is bad for me because I would go for some Tlaxcala lucha stories) and it’s easier to be noticed when someone might go to your show any day of the week than when you’re running TV 3 times a week.

The Yaneth Cantando performance didn’t air on CMLL’s stream, but there’s photos of it here. Hechicero and Mephisto got involved.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of their podcast, which is still not on a RSS feed and so takes me like a half hour just to get to my phone to listen. You should probably just listen to it on YouTube. The title says “the birth of Titanes del Cosmos” and Aerostar’s a guest, so I bet they have a name for the Aerostar/Drago/Argenis trio.

The WWS Women’s promotion says they’re on pause for a while, but will announce someone going to Japan (Stardom) for three months and will run a title tournament when they come back.

AJPW says Jun Akiyama will return to Mexico for this year’s DragonMania show. Other AJPW wrestlers are coming, and they’ll be here from 05/25 to 05/31. That’s longer than usual; I wonder if they’ll work IWRG or something.

A few photos and a quick report of PILLA (Cuernavaca)’s 1st anniversary show. Skadi has a giant scary wolf/dog mask that I don’t think we’ve seen in Mexico City.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania, the latest Lucha Report and a new Lucha Clasica episode on Chavo Guerrero.

CultIcon pleads for Rush vs Atlantis.

PCW has Rey Fenix vs Extreme Tiger and Penta on 03/24 in Wilmington (Los Angeles), California

SWF has Penta el Zero Miedo vs Alberto el Patron on 06/10 in New Jersey.

LG Promociones in Veracruz is working with a local group to help people fighting cancer.

Conan O’Brien got lucha libre lessons from Casandro, Magnus and others on Facebook Live.

Blim has the Hijo del Santo movie on their service now. Blim has the Blue Demon TV show, so this is getting similar programming around it.

Vulcano Jr. took Pirata Fantasma’s hair in Arena Aficion, and Super Crazy took Golepador’s hair in Deportivo 11 de Julio.

There’s a memorial show for Morelia luchador Copernico, who passed away recently..


CMLL (SAT) 02/25/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Leono, Marvel, Sensei vs Artillero, Camorra, Cholo
2) Astral, Príncipe Diamante, Starman vs Metálico, Nitro, Virus
3) Zeuxis © vs Princesa Sugehit [MEX WOMEN]
8th defense, fourth straight against Sugehit.
4) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Cavernario, Euforia, Mr. Niebla vs Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Mistico

Sugehit probably should win – failing four times in a row is not great, both because she keeps failing and CMLL has no other ideas. The problem is Zeuxis is the best luchadora CMLL has and there’s no path for her to win the main title while Dalys is still world champion. I suspect Zeuxis retains but I wouldn’t rule out a change.

Principe Diamante isn’t winning that match. He’s got to win tonight.

CMLL (SUN) 02/26/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Metal Blanco & Micro vs Linterna & Mr. Brisa
2) Neutrón & Sky Kid vs Évola & Exterminador
3) Gallo, Magnum, Metatrón vs Difunto, Maléfico, Ráfaga
4) El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Explosivo, Omar Brunetti, Star Black
5) Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Esfinge vs Furia Roja, Pierroth, Terrible

CMLL sending 4-6 people to Sunday Guadalajara shows was the standard until a couple years ago. Maybe it’s coming back, but it’s also strange to see Dragon Lee and Pierroth on opposite sides of a match. CMLL’s gone out of their way to avoid Pierroth facing his sons in the past and maybe a change is coming.

NGD are still the Guadalajara trios champions, facing a group of likely challengers.

Metal Blanco in the opener sticks out. Triton was the most recent Metal Blanco and it’s way too soon to repeat that name unless it’s a family member.

CMLL (MON) 02/27/2017 Arena Puebla
1) París & Zaeta Roja vs Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr.
2) Millenium & Robin vs Espíritu Maligno & Policeman
3) Fuego, Oro Jr., Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Okumura
4) Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Mephisto
5) Volador Jr. vs Euforia [lightning]
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Rush vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Volador/Euforia is only a lightning match, which might mean they do two straight singles matches. Rush is actually on the tecnico side when teaming with his brothers.

new lucha videos for the weekend of February 17th, 2017

YouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYyNnOBGWP7QA8sifCadtx9K0avV9J7dl

02/18 & 02/19 WWC: Cloud Drive – aired at the normal time after all

02/18 Elite: Cloud Drive

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-02-17
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-17 @ Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
3) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Yoshitatsu
4) Negro Casas & Ripper vs Terrible, Último Guerrero, La Máscara, Euforia, Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero in a seeding battle royal match
the National Parejas Increible Block B (matches 5-11)

AAA on Televisa: 2017-02-18
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-01-27 @ Salón Rojo del Club Toluca, Toluca, Estado de México
1) Big Mami & Faby Apache vs Goya Kong & Lady Shani
2) Aerostar, Argenis, Bengala vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Súper Fly
3) Hijo del Fantasma, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. vs Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Pagano

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-02-18
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-06 @ Arena Puebla
1) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela vs Dalys, La Seductora, Zeuxis
2) Drone, Esfinge, Soberano Jr. vs Okumura, Puma, Tiger
3) Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-02-18
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-15 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Alfa, Black Dragón, Omega vs Diablo Jr., Douki, Hip Hop Man
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy vs Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Nigma
3) Emperador Azteca vs Diablo Jr.
4) Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Heddi Karaoui vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Relámpago

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-02-20
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-19 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Leo, Pantera I, Rafy vs Cerebro Negro, Power Bull, Súper Mega
2) Apolo Estrada Jr. vs Relámpago
3) Veneno vs Danny Casas
4) Hijo del Alebrije vs Diablo Jr., Alfa & Dragón Fly, Black Dragón, Hip Hop Man, Imposible, Demonio Infernal El Protector seeding battle royal match
5) Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera vs Hijo De Dos Caras & Hijo del Alebrije in a El Protector quarterfinal
6) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I vs Herodes Jr. & Imposible in a El Protector quarterfinal
7) Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro vs Hip Hop Man & Mr. Electro in a El Protector quarterfinal
8) Dragón Fly & Villano IV vs Alfa & Máscara Año 2000 Jr. in a El Protector quarterfinal
9) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I vs Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera in a El Protector semifinal
10) Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro vs Dragón Fly & Villano IV in a El Protector semifinal
11) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I vs Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro in the El Protector final

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-02-17 

uh huh

Recapped: 02/18/2017

What happened: Ultimo Guerrero & Valiente advanced to the final of the incredible pairs tournament. Diamante Azul & Pierroth agreed to a mask match. Yoshitatsu debuted.

What was good: The opening minis match was the best match on the show, and the opening tournament match was the best of those. The Azul/Pierroth trios build up was dreadful.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my YouTube channel

Match 1: Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. rudos
    • Mercurio dropkick to the head sliding dropkick Electrico (4:30)
    • Pierrothito nudo Stukita (5:02)
  2. técnicos
    • Stukita triple moonsault Pequeño Pierroth (3:32)
    • Eléctrico springboard elbow drop Mercurio (3:50)
  3. rudos
    • Pierrothito Pierrothina Stukita (4:10)
    • COR Eléctrico [Mercurio tornillo] (4:37)

Winner: rudos (1/3)
Match Time: 13:29
Notes: There are now edecanes in Volaris outfits, positioned closest to the cameras. They’re not allowed to do anything but stand there and pose, and block our view of the people who are dancing I guess. Stukita appears be imitating Silver King with his water spit. He wears a half Halcón Suriano mask to the ring.

Review: [good] Fun minis opener. They were missing the drama of a match down later in the card but they worked in more than usual at this spot (including Mercurio getting in his first tornillo in who knows when.) Stukita seems like he’s going to get a bigger role with Astral not around – maybe the #4 mini técnico, maybe the #2? – which helps freshen things up a little bit. He can do mat work with Pierrothito that were weren’t seeing from other people. This was fast paced but felt fluid, and the rudos seemed into it. Hopefully the cibernetico on Sunday goes the same way.

this is both good and bad at the same time
Mercurio tornillo

Match 2: La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. rudas
    • Tiffany inverted crucifix powerbomb Marcela (6:00)
  2. técnicos
    • Vaquerita elbow drop middle rope elbow drop (3:32)
    • Sanely inverted STF Metalica (3:32)
  3. tecnicos
    • Vaquerita Rosa DDT Reina Isis (3:38)
    • Marcela double stomp Tiffany (4:14)

Winner: tecnicos (2/3)
Match Time: 13:46

Review: [ok] Better than expected, though still not good. Sanely’s opening exchange with Metalica was tough – she had to run across the ring to retry a springboard, she fell oddly on a dropkick, her own dropkick didn’t look good. Isis struggled too. Metalica has some rough moments, but this match just showed she’s way ahead of those other two. Sanely has more flashy offense than Isis, but more moments where spots go obviously wrong. Tiffany and Marcela did a good job as possible as working around Tiffany’s limitation (which mostly meant just putting Tiffany in spots and having Marcela do the running.)

Vaquerita lands hard on Isis on the elbow drop
flying Sanely

Match 3: Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Yoshitatsu
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. rudos
    • Kraneo running hipsmash Marco Corleone (1:45)
    • Pierroth second middle rope elbow drop Diamante Azul (2:52)
  2. rudos
    • DQ Diamante Azul [mask pull] (3:59)

Winner: rudos (1/2)
Match Time: 6:51
Notes: Diamante Azul is now just wearing the sponsor’s t-shirt, but also has masks to hand out to children (who seemed very ready for the masks to be put on them.) Azul rushes Pierroth, and the new girls are a little slow to realize they need to get out of there. Yoshitatstsu still takes his time getting introduced. Volador knocks off Violencia off the ramp. Tatsu is still wearing his Bullet Hunter gear, but he’s got half his face painted white.

Diamante Azul challenges Pierroth to a mask match while facing the crowd and not Pierroth, which seems odd. La Mascara and Rush come out to confront Azul while the rudos get Pierroth a new mask. Azul says he’ll beat Pierroth, then Rush. Pierroth accepts.

Review: [below average] maybe a generous grade! This is not good in itself and not good in what it means for the next six weeks or so of matches Never has an elbow drop made me laugh as much as the one Pierroth did in the first fall. He put so much effort into it for something that still looked bad. Tatsu put a lot less effort into his top rope wheel kick and it still looked bad. Tatsu appeared to have limited idea of what was going on, but who was exactly supposed to be communicated with him on his team? It seemed like Kraneo was directing him, but this was a tough ask for anyone to start. CMLL cutting away from a Monito/Mije fight to show Pierroth brawl badly with Azul is the worst thing they’ve done. Pierroth’s punches are awful. Pierroth is awful. This feud is pretty awful.

Volador rids himself of Pequeno Violencia

Match 4: Negro Casas & Ripper vs TerribleÚltimo GuerreroLa MáscaraEuforiaDragón Rojo Jr.Hechicero in a National Parejas Increible Tournament match and in a seeding battle royal match
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. Dragon Rojo Jr. out (0:48)
  2. Euforia out (1:15)
  3. Terrible out (2:21)
  4. Hechicero out (2:43)
  5. Último Guerrero out (2:54)
  6. La Mascara out (3:08)

Winner: Negro Casas & Ripper
Match Time: 3:08

no one told Terrible this was a dumb battle royal

And in the tournament itself

Match 5: Atlantis & Euforia beat Dragón Rojo Jr. & Guerrero Maya Jr. (6:33) – a good energetic tag match with the underdog team coming off as if they really had a chance. This felt like an actual match with a beginning and a middle (instead of just the end game) and was the best of this block.

Maya hits everything on the way down

Match 6: Rush & Terrible beat Hechicero & Stuka Jr. (7:47) – the feed dies during this match, and struggles the rest of the match. Significant sections of matches go missing along the way. It didn’t seem to be any big loss in this match, with Rush not doing much and Terrible looking hurt late in the win.

Match 7: Último Guerrero & Valiente beat Dragón Lee & La Máscara (6:33) – the first half of this was unwatchable due to stream issues, the second half ends with La Mascara breaking up a Dragon Lee pin. In between, Valiente surprises by taking the apron headscissors but that’s about it.

Dragon Lee takes out Valiente

Match 8: Mistico & Negro Casas defeated Ripper & Titán (6:10) – match is going along OK when Titan is counted down for three by Tirantes on a Mistico huracanrana. Titan did wait until the last moment to kick out, but he did, and it clearly wasn’t meant to be the finish. Tirantes kicked Titan out and this stumbles to a finish. The Titan/Mistico stuff seemed interesting and it would’ve been neat to see how they finished.

Match 9: Atlantis & Euforia defeated Rush & Terrible (4:02) – feed is at it’s worst during this, going out at the finish (though you can see it coming.) Terrible accidentally punches Rush to lead to the team’s defeat in a forgettable fight.

Match 10: Último Guerrero & Valiente defeat Mistico & Negro Casas (4:14) – wasn’t as good as it would’ve seemed with the names involved, Casas & Valiente even do a double duck down bit. They seemed to be rushing or just short on time.

Match 11: Último Guerrero & Valiente defeat Atlantis & Euforia (7:14) – Último Guerrero wrestling the same UG match, but the novelty of him doing with Euforia. Valiente working rudo was sort of interesting, but this match wasn’t.

that is a lot of Euforia to flip over

Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I win El Protector, Puebla preview

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 02/19/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring]
2) Cadillac & Kanon b Acero & Picudo Jr.
straight falls
3) Cerebro Negro, Power Bull, Súper Mega b Pantera I, Rafy, Teelo
Power Bull replaced Yakuza.
4) Danny Casas b Veneno
Danny Casas won via chair shot
5) Apolo Estrada Jr. COR Relámpago
Relampago couldn’t return after a tope. Apolo wants a title match.
6) Alfa & Dragón Fly b Hijo del Alebrije, Diablo Jr., Black Dragón, Hip Hop Man, Imposible, Demonio Infernal [El Protector]
Alfa replaced Emperador Azteca on Tuesday. Winning team will get a title match against Veneno & Chicano
7) Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera b Hijo De Dos Caras & Hijo del Alebrije [El Protector, quarterfinal] Hip Hop Man y Mr. Electro vs Negro Navarro y el Demonio Infernal en  Protector 2017. (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Herodes Jr. attacked Hijo de Dos Caras
8) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I b Herodes Jr. & Imposible [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Black Terry replaced Pirata Morgan. Imposible switched teams with Hip Hop Man.
9) Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro b Hip Hop Man & Mr. Electro [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Hip Hop Man (switched teams with Imposible) & Mr. Electro had issues.
10) Dragón Fly & Villano IV b Alfa & Máscara Año 2000 Jr. [El Protector, quarterfinal] Villano IV y Dragón Fly vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr y Alfa en el Protector 2017 (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
11) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I b Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera [El Protector, semifinal]
12) Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro b Dragón Fly & Villano IV [El Protector, semifinal]
13) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I b Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro [El Protector, final] Black Terry y Diablo Primero Jr vs Negro Navarro y el Demonio Infernal. (posted by Estrellas del Ring) El protector  DIABLO JR contra DEMONIO (posted by lucha libre)
Black Terry & Diablo Jr. win the tournament and a tag title shot against Veneno & Chicano. This was Terry’s fourth tag match of the day.

Four matches is a long day, but Terry & Diablo have a decent chance of winning the tag tag titles. Rob posted video of the Relampago dive; poor guy destroys himself.

Black Terry Jr. has photos from yesterday’s Lucha Memes show.

CMLL has the most ordinary show possible tonight in Puebla: five matches, all trios matches, absolutely nothing to any of them. The main event is Dragon Lee, Mistico & Volador against Euforia, Niebla Roja and Yoshitatsu. Tatsu hasn’t shown a lot in Mexico so far, but this is a better chance to have a decent match than Friday. The semimain has Angel de Oro, Maximo and Valiente vs Hechicero, Rey Bucanero and Terrible, where Hechicero is tonight’s replacement for the injured Shocker. Blue Panther Jr., The Panther, Triton face Kraneo, Olimpico, Ripper in the tercera in what might be the best match on the show, which is to say there may not be a good match on this show. First two matches have the usual mix of Puebla luchadors and low ranked DF guys: Lestat, Pegasso and Tigre Rojo Jr. face Disturbio, Espiritu Maligno, and Policeman, and Flyer, Millenium, Zaeta Roja versus Guerrero Espacial, King Jaguar and Perverso open the show.

CultIcon has a preview of the show. It’ll air at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

La Union has an interview with luchador Chamaco Valaguez. The upside down neckbreaker called La Valagueza is named after him, and he explains his other job as a butcher gave him lots of practice to carrying large weights over one shoulder, making it easy to do the same with an opponent. Valaguez says El Anibal was the best luchador, talks about his match with Mocho Cota as his best match.

LigerFever has a full transcript of Penta el Zero M on Los Reyes del Biutiful.

KDNA promotions seems offended by whatever Konnan said last night in Monterrey, posting a photo of their mostly full arena and accusing Konnan of being on drugs.

Lucha 2000 #861 hypes LA Park vs Rush.

PWR’s debut show on FloSlam is this Saturday.

Lucha Memes, Pierrothito advances in minis tournament

CMLL (SAT) 02/18/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala, Flyer, Leono b Akuma, Camorra, Cholo
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, La Comandante, Zeuxis
Tecnicas took 2/3. Sugehit beat Zeuxis to set up a title match next week.
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
Tecnicos took 2/3. Dragon Rojo was hurt at the end of the match, but said he was OK later on.
4) Titán, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Rey Bucanero
Volador replaced Caristico. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Último Guerrero DQ Rush
UG took 2/3, Rush for the DQ.

CMLL was probably pretty aware Caristico was missing all the shows this weekend whenever they sent Volador in his place for the Lucha Libre Boom show, but decided to make no effort to announce substitutions on their own shows this weekend or even acknowledge that changes were being made.

CMLL (SUN) 02/19/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Artillero & Inquisidor b Robin & Sensei
Rudos took 2/3.
2) Fuego, Magnus, Starman b Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Nitro
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Pierrothito b Eléctrico, Pequeño Astro, Stukita, Fugaz, Aéreo, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Universo 2000, Espíritu Maligno [CMLL MINI, #1 Contenders]
Arena Mexico debuts for Fugaz (Guadalajara), Aereo (Puebla) and Espiritu Magino (Puebla – he’d wrestled in Arena Coliseo prior.) Rudos vs tecnicos. Eliminations: Pequeno Universo (Fugaz), Aereo (Espiritu Maligno), Pequeno Violencia (Astro; each of the new guys got a pinfall to start), Fugaz (Mercurio), Espiritu Maligno (Stukita), Astro (Pierroth; each of the new guys pinned in the same sequence), Mercurio & Electrico (DDQ), and Pierrothito beat Stukita to advance. He’ll face next week’s winner on 03/05
4) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr. b Bobby Villa, Felino, Misterioso Jr.
5) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Mistico DQ Cavernario, Ephesto, Mephisto
Mistico replaced Caristico, Cavernario fouled him for the DQ.

Neither of those guys – or Caristico – are booked next week, so the main event DQ was just to do a DQ.

The lineup for next week has another minis cibernetico, so this was one of those times where CMLL just doesn’t explain what they were doing. Pierrothito and Pequeno Violencia are calling themselves the Pequeno Ingobernables now.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 02/19/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [@TKD_117, +LuchaTV]
1) Demasiado & Diva Salvaje b Baby Star & Black Metal
2) Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako b Totem I & Totem II
money thrown in
3) Demus 3:16 b Astrolux
Astrolux looked good before Demus destroyed him.
4) Virus b Belial
very good match
5) Black Terry & Negro Navarro © b El Cuatrero & Sansón [Arena Coliseo TAG]
first defense. Good match.
6) Alas de Acero & Iron Kid © b Dragón Negro & Sádico [EdM TAG]
Crazy match.
7) Yoshitatsu b Aramis
Short match. Aramis looked good.
8) Hechicero b Ronnie Mendoza
best match on the show

Sounds like it was a fun show. Hechicero/Mendoza seems like an obvious pick for one of the VOD matches, but they could go with a few different choices for match 2.

Jocay took a Periscope of Penta vs Rey Horuz from New York today.

Vampiro says AAA sold out their show in Tijuana on Sunday. Elegido says they sold out in Morelos today.

Konnan & Zorro showed up as a surprises on tonight’s Arena Coliseo Monterrey show, helping out Garza Jr. Konnan talked about “cleaning up the damage other wrestling promoters have done” with the Crash and independents. The big group appearance of La Rebelion in Monterrey is tomorrow.

Mistico was scheduled for a show in Autlautla, Estado de Mexico, but says he canceled due to not getting payment from the promoter.

Trauma II appeared for the first time in months at a show in Iraputo.

Takashi Sasaki and Daisuke Masaoka are announced for the DTU show on 03/24 in Arena Aficiona 03/26 show in Tulancingo. As mentioned on the podcast, there’s a really good chance that 03/24 DTU show is another iPPV.

AAA posted this week’s TV show.

Garza Jr. is interviewed on this week’s The Dave Dynasty show.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Tampico luchador Relampago Gutierrez passed away.


CMLL (SUN) 02/26/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca, Magnus, Oro Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
2) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol vs Felino, Luciferno, Tiger
3) Último Dragóncito vs Fantasy, Aéreo, Shockercito, Reiko, Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Relámpago, Pequeño Joker [cibernetico, CMLL MINI, #1 Contenders]
4) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Vangellys
5) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

Released in Box Y Lucha, may change when it’s posted on CMLL’s website. More outside names in the minis match. Reiko and Relampago are from Guadalajara, there may be confusingly two different Relampagos wrestling in Guadalajara, or this one wrestles indie shows too. Pequeño Joker is usually Mini Joker in Puebla. (The original CMLL minis used “Mini”, CMLL switched to Pequeño after that group left for AAA.) Ultimo Dragoncito & Shockercito are the two obvious favorites. CMLL wasn’t afraid to do a tecnico/tecnico minis title match previously, so a rudo/rudo final isn’t out of the question.

como estaz 4×11: Terry’s friend Gersom

(this is not Gersom)

Rob & TKD are back in Mexico, and they bring along Black Terry Jr. and Gersom of Sensacional de Luchadors to talk about the shows they’ve seen the first couple days of the trip. I ask questions along the way. There’s discussing of the Friday night Lucha Libre Boom show, Juventued Guerrera’s Super X show (with a strange referee), and Saturday night in Arena Coliseo. Plus, we talk with Gersom about how got into filming lucha libre and discuss how we think the current rise in paid lucha libre content is going to work out. The podcast runs just about two hours.

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Thanks for listening. We’ll be back in a month, if not sooner.


Ultimo Guerrero & Valiente advance, La Llave a la Gloria, LLB

photo by Black Terry Jr

CMLL (FRI) 02/17/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Estrellas del RIng, SuperLuchas, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely b Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
Tecnicas took 2/3.
3) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. DQ Kráneo, Pierroth, Yoshitatsu
straight falls in a poor match, with Azul unmasking Pierroth for the DQ.. Azul & Pierroth agreed to a mask match at Dos Leyendas
4) Negro Casas & Ripper vs Terrible, Último Guerrero, La Máscara, Euforia, Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero [natl pi, seeding battle royal]
all rudos in the match
5) Atlantis & Euforia b Dragón Rojo Jr. & Guerrero Maya Jr. [natl pi, 8f]
Rojo unmasked Maya after the match
6) Rush & Terrible b Hechicero & Stuka Jr. [natl pi, 8f]
7) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Dragón Lee & La Máscara [natl pi, 8f]
8) Mistico & Negro Casas b Ripper & Titán [natl pi, 8f]
9) Atlantis & Euforia b Rush & Terrible [natl pi, quarterfinal]
10) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Mistico & Negro Casas [natl pi, quarterfinal]
11) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Atlantis & Euforia [natl pi, semifinal]
UG & Valiente face Volador & Cavernario next week

Ultimo Guerrero wins! Ultimo Guerrero winning next week seems like the most likely outcome.

The recaps are very definite on Pierroth and Diamante Azul agreeing to a mask match. The old theory was CMLL would never have Pierroth wager his mask because (as most people know), he’s already lost a mask in Arena Mexico. The old theory doesn’t appear to be correct. This would be a lackluster match for Homenaje a Dos Leyendas but that doesn’t seem to be a concern and the challenges are said to have gotten a big reaction.

There’s still a month away from the show, and time for the main event to change. The press conference locks it in – sometimes they come right after mask challenges like that, sometimes they wait until a couple weeks before the show.

LLB (FRI) 02/17/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), R de Rudo]
1) Epidemia, Kid Jaguar, Osiris b Devil Terror, Macho IV, Macho V
2) Mini Pinochito b Felinito, Bracito De Plata, Súper Loco, Águila Solitaria, Caramelito, Panterita [LLB MINI]
Aguila was stretched out after hitting the barrier on a tope
3) Atomik Star, Fly Star, Heronia, Toxin Boy b Araña de Plata Jr., Crazy Star (F), Lunatik Fly, the Tiger (Tamaulipas)
Star Warrior (Black Warrior Jr.) attacked Atomic Star after the match.
4) Axxel, Fandango, Golden, Kempo Dragón b Ninja de Fuego, Sagrado, Shadow, Tony Rivera
Axxel submitted Sagrado. Challenges followed.
5) Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Cerebro Negro, Fantasma de la Ópera b Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Fresero Jr.
Fresero was stretched out.
6) Aero Boy & Violento Jack b Cíclope & Miedo Extremo and Ángel o Demonio & Ovett and Halloween & X-Fly
7) Black Warrior, Juventud Guerrera, Súper Crazy DQ Mr. Águila, Ronnie Mendoza, Volador Jr.
Volador replaced Carsitico (injury?). Warrior fouled Volador for the DQ.

Sounds like this was a good show from the people who were there. Seemed decently full in Arena Lopez Mateos. Still no update on how badly Caristico’s hurt, but obviously it’s some issue since he’s been gone all week.

Goya Kong won the women’s cage match in Arena Neza. Building looks about half full.

Saturday Arena Coliseo has Rush vs Ultimo Guerrero in the main event. AAA is in Tijuana with a three way tag match. Martinez is running a show with Violento Jack vs Penta in Texas.

Sunday Arena Mexico is a mostly normal show with a minis cibernetico. The final two face off next week for the vacant CMLL Minis championship. (That match probably should be stream this week, definitely next week, but no idea if either will be streamed.) Sunday’s match is the debut of Arena Puebla’s Astro, but he’s really more Contla, Tlaxcala’s Astro. His hometown paper notes he’ll be the first Tlaxcala luchador to wrestle in Arena Mexico in modern times. Tlaxcala is one of the smaller Mexican states, though densely populated. It just doesn’t seem to have much of a lucha libre infrastructure – most of the ‘locals’ working shows there are from nearby Puebla. (That article also mention Astro’s real name.)

A few more notes on the La Llave a la Gloria contest. The general message was the same as with the Psycho/Wagner mask match: everything’s not just fine in AAA, they’re having their biggest and best year ever. It’s not crystal clear how many winners there will be; some reports just mention one winner but second and third place awards, some said each a man/woman/mini/exotico, some said exotico was a maybe. I think it’s probably safe to assume they’re working all of this out as they go and not to expect to stick to exactly what they’ve said in February by the time TripleMania comes around. MedioTiempo’s report notes that AAA said luchadors beyond the winners may be signed, which makes sense and is the norm in any talent search. Dinastia, Mamba and Nino Hamburguesa were brought on as examples of people who’ve achieved the dream of making it to AAA. Dinasita won the Quien Pinta Por La Corona contest. Mamba & Hamburguesa did not, but did well enough that they were brought back in later on.

Vampiro emphasized they don’t need someone with great ability, but with great heart. The plan is to make this an annual thing. (Like with the previous contest, that’s probably up to the sponsors.) Vampiro hypes it as being previously impossible to join AAA, which I guess means Dave the Clown did the impossible. In truth, AAA doesn’t seem to have the time/resources to go search for talent that’s not presented to them, so this is a way to get more people to come to them. Vampiro says he’s going to have veterans like Wagner, Parka, Marvin, Averno and Chessman help him teach the new guys.

SuperLuchas is the only one I’ve seen so far who got a quote from Dorian Roldan about the logo. He says it’s tough to know who came up with what, but AAA definitely doesn’t want to offend, sometimes mistakes happen, and this is just the first teaser for La Llave a la Gloria – implying we’ll see a different logo in the future. (It’s really not tough to know; the Arizona lucha libre group had been using the logo for years, Dorian says this idea started six months ago. FWIW, I do suspect it was Record or Roshfrans who came up with this logo and Roldan is just being a good partner by not blaming them.)  Dorian also says Vampiro was one of many people AAA considered for the director of talent position, Dorian also reaffirmed the idea of closer bonds between AAA and Lucha Underground, saying that’s his goal as “head of Lucha Underground”. I know there’s some drama about the Lucha Underground organizational chart or whatever but, at least for the Mexican press, Dorian was presenting himself as the guy on the top of the pyramid.

Marco Corleone had thoughts about what AAA is actually looking for in this contest. People who win are going to be paid in mild TV exposure, and should expect not to be paid much in money beyond that. It’s very noticable AAA is promising chances but not saying how the winner is actually going to get paid for winning.

Alberto, Tinieblas Jr., Zumbi and Hip Hop Man are doing an interview on Wednesday. That could have more details on the Distriomania shows in May.

DTU announced Takashi Sasaki for their 03/24 show.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of Aqui Esta La Lucha

LuchaWorld has their latest podcast.


CMLL (FRI) 02/24/2017 Arena México
1) Robin & Star Jr. vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Esfinge, Soberano Jr., Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Sagrado
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
4) Ángel de Oro vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Pierroth, Rush, Yoshitatsu
6) Cavernario & Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero & Valiente [natl pi, final]

Yoshitatsu seems to be with the Ingobernables on Fridays, but just a random rudo other days. Angel de Oro & Rey Bucanero did a split up on last week’s show, Dragon Rojo & Guerrero Maya did a split up last night, so obviously teh follow up is Angel de Oro vs Dragon Rojo. Should be good anyway. Main event really should be too.

CMLL TRAGEDIAS (SAT) 03/04/2017 Deportivo Pavón, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) ? vs ??
2) Metálico & Skándalo vs Demasiado & Magnético
3) Marcela & Sanely vs Dalys & Zeuxis
4) Bobby Z & Dragón Rojo Jr. vs El Cuatrero & Sansón and Bengala & Rey Bucanero
5) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Máximo vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

A Brazo de Plata 40th Anniversary show. He’s not wrestling on this one – though he is listed on one the next day. This is probably also a fundraiser for his medical expenses, and a 40 year veteran who’s been on top for 30 years still needing charily shows to pay for wrestling related injuries is probably a good reason not to join the wrestling business. Goya Kong & Psycho Clown can’t wrestle on the show, but will sign autographs.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-02-14

Star Jr. moonsault

Recapped: 02/16/2017

What happened: Ephesto pinned Volador twice to get a title shot next week. That’s about it.

Also, there’s a new Roshfrans mat. Or at least it seemed new to me. It’s very black. The CMLL logo is now on screen the entire show (which is how it is often on the NJPW World version of this show.)

What was good: a This was one of those shows where I rated pretty much everything OK. They’re always different levels of OK, but they’re all in the same range where you don’t really need to go back to watch them.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)