Hijos del Infiernos win the trios titles, Casas out with injury, Naito to return

CMLL (SUN) 08/09/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Hijo del Signo & Metálico b Hombre Bala Jr. & Súper Halcón Jr.
2) Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. DQ Kamaitachi, Puma, Tiger
Kamaitachi pulled Stuka’s mask for the DQ.
3) Aéreo b Pequeño Violencia [hair]
Aereo won in a surprisingly quick match.
4) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Super Porky b Kráneo, Pierroth, Ripper
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. © [MEX TRIOS]
Mephisto beat Atlantis clean to win the trios titles. Reyes del Atlantida fall on their 2nd defense. Hijos del Infierno are the 39th known champions. Mephisto’s 2nd reign, Safari/Ephesto’s 3rd reign, and Luciferno’s first reign.
6) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Rey Bucanero, Rey Escorpión, Terrible
Rey Bucanero replaced Shocker on Tuesday. Mistica on Rey Escorpion.

I’m surprised they did the title change after all. That reduces the champions to 14. Maybe that no longer matters? Maybe they haven’t done the math and are going to fix that some other way? It does suggest the Reyes winning the titles were less about them and more about getting the titles off Peste Negra (and Mr. Niebla ASAP.)

Not sure what exactly happened with the hair match but it sounds like it either something went wrong or they weren’t into doing much.

CMLL (MON) 08/10/2015 Arena Puebla [@therealfredo, CMLL, Periodico Enfoque]
1) Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. b Black Tiger & Rey Samuray
Battilon de la Muerte took 2/3.
2) Okumura, Puma, Tiger b Lestat, Stigma, Tritón
Lestat replaced Starman. Rudos took 2/3.
3) Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper b Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán
Invasors took 2/3 in a good match.
4) Ángel de Oro © b Pólvora [CMLL LH]
Angel de Oro took falls 1/3 for his 5th defense. Rematch from 13 days ago in Arena Mexico; this was a good but lesser version of that.
5) Felino, Mephisto, Terrible b Atlantis, Mistico, Rush
Terrible and Felino replaced Mr. Niebla (suspension?) and Casas (injury). Tecnicos took 2/3 in a quick match, with Atlantis submitting Mephisto and challenged for a LH title match.
6) Último Guerrero b Rey Escorpión
UG took 1/3, in a similar but not as good match as their hair match

This show is still up on YouTube. I half watched it while working on other stuff. It was a fine enough show, but nothing must see. Both the rematches from Arena Mexico were lesser versions of those matches. The crowd wasn’t into Ultimo Guerrero as much as in Arena Mexico too, and that really helped the hair match. (They might have just been tired; this was a long show even with a short semimain.)

Periodico Enfoque says Rey Escorpion knocked down one of the photographers during the main event. I didn’t pick this up at all watching on YouTube (but was largely distracted during the show; no one else mentioned it as far as I saw.) They note security didn’t get involved in any way. Escorpion & CMLL photographer Alexis Sanchez have had issues in the recent past as well.

No Saturday show (boxing).

The full Friday night Arena Mexico show will air on ClaroSports. I did not see it, but I was told last Friday’s show aired in full on CMLL.com; perhaps that was a test run.

Tonight’s CMLL show has the Guerreros and Revolucionarios against each other one again.  Pegasso versus Virus is the lightning match, which should be on YouTube after the show. Notable, the Metalico/Leono issue appears to be dropped; they’re off the card tonight.

Negro Casas is out of action for a few weeks with a torn bicep and pectoral. CMLL says he suffered the injury on Friday night (and it’s notable they addressed the situation, unlike the recent issues with Sombra, Rush, Niebla and Shocker.) I don’t remember seeing anything in particular with him, but he was one of those who disappeared very quickly after the match. This is Casas’ second significant injury of the year, after suffering a concussion earlier this year. Casas has defied aging, but even his super powers are going to run out at some point.

This caused some card shuffling. Friday’s main event is now Ingoberanbles (Rush, Sombra, Mascara) versus Atlantis, Maximo and Volador, which might again tease a Sombra/Atlantis issue.  Rush was previously listed as main eventing in Arena Neza, not sure what will happen there.

It was mentioned on this morning’s NJPW show that Naito would be coming back to CMLL in September. I had guessed he would not. That has to tie in with the Anniversary show some how (and maybe it was a late enough decision to change the date? Or just a coincidence?)

Zeuxis told the press that she and Dalys are a Caribbean tag team. Who knew? Does it really matter to be a 2 person tag team in a division with no 2v2 matches? Zeuxis has the same belt with sash hanging off that Ivelisse was wearing on Lucha Underground; I kind of want to believe that’s a Puerto Rician style thing.

Cavernario has no problem with the Ingobernables, but feels Volador, Atlantis and Negro Casas are as good or better.

Interviews with CMLL’s three officials ring announcers.


CMLL (TUE) 08/11/2015 Arena México
1) Acero & Angelito vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
2) Molotov, Oro Jr., Robin vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca
3) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Pegasso vs Virus [lightning]
5) Dragon Lee, Rey Cometa, Valiente vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Luciferno
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpión, Thunder vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Posted before, but changed enough to be posted again. Will Thunder actually wrestle this week? Will we be sad if he does?

CMLL (SAT) 08/15/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Olímpico
2) Molotov vs Hijo del Signo
3) Oro Jr. vs Nitro
4) Stigma vs Canelo Casas
5) Tritón & Valiente vs Rey Bucanero & Terrible
6) Zeuxis © vs Silueta [MEX WOMEN]
first defense
7) Máximo, Mistico, Rey Cometa vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Zeuxis hasn’t defended the belt partly because of the injury, and partly because CMLL. She’s defending against her forever rival here. They had teased the title match two weeks ago and get to do it after a break. I’m going to keep saying this every time: the title match should absolutely be the main event on this show. Even more so with women and minis – the positive press CMLL could generate for it would outweigh the bruised egos.

CMLL (SUN) 08/16/2015 Arena México
1) Metatrón & Sensei vs Apocalipsis & Cholo
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Tritón vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Nitro
3) Fantasy vs Pequeño Violencia [lightning]
4) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
5) Dragon Lee, Rey Cometa, Titán vs Cavernario, Felino, Kamaitachi
6) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja

Sky Team versus Guerreros in the main event, Violencia coming right back in a lightning match.

Semimain looks like more Dragon Lee/Kamatiachi fun, but Cometa gets his hands on Cavernario too. That match would be great if one of Felino’s sons replaced him.

CMLL (SUN) 08/16/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Rey Halcón & Star Black vs El Chakal & Relampago
2) El Divino, Frezzer, Javier Cruz Jr. vs Black Sugar, Demonio Rojo, El Yaqui
3) Neutrón, Vaquero Jr., Virgo vs Furia Roja, Joker, Sádico
4) Draego, Nautilius, Omar Brunetti vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Rayman vs Pepe Aguayo

Rayman and Pepe Aguayo were on opposite sides of the not-CMLL show this past Sunday, set up the rematch on this week’s Sunday show. There’s no real difference, the Sunday is just an partially sanctioned show that uses the local trainees.  (We’re lucky to get the posters on CMLL.com at this point.)

CMLL (MON) 08/17/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Star Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr., Zaeta Roja vs Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar, Metálico
2) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Lluvia vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
3) Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa, The Panther vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
4) La Máscara, Máximo, Super Porky vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
5) Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Atlantis and Mephisto matched up in the main event again. Third match could be quite good.

como estaz 3×1: TripleMania XXIII

Back for a one shot. This is a double feature, combining everything Rob and I saw this past week in Mexico.

Right click to download.

0:00:00 Intro
0:00:39 music interlude 1!
0:01:37 Part 1: IWRG, CMLL, CaraLucha, pyramids, Triplemania predictions
1:20:54 music interlude 2!
1:21:11 Part 2: TripleMania


The como estaz tag should still work as a podcast feed, though I’m not sure when another one will turn up.

08/09 AAA TV Results (TripleMania XXII)

AAA TV (SUN) 08/09/2015 Arena Ciudad de Mexico, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [thecubsfan]
***TripleMania XXIII***
1) Dinastía, Drago, Goya Kong, Pimpinela Escarlata b Daga, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown, Sexy Star
Pimpinela got the win, in a match not as good as usual mixed openers (and not close to last year’s version)
2) Villano III, Villano IV, Villano V b Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown
retirement matches for Villano III & Pepe Casas. V3 and V5 wore their masks for the match. Casas and Copetes were referees, with Casas only dropping down to count the winning pin. Bad match, Villanos struggling. V4 snuck in a foul on Psycho Clown for the win, which annoyed the other Villanos.
3) Averno, Chessman, Cibernético © b Angélico, Fénix, Jack Evans and Hijo del Fantasma, Pentagón Jr., Texano Jr. [AAA TRIOS, cage]
Made a cage match early in the week. Rules were a modification of cage match rules, with the belts hanging from a metal scaffold in the center of the ring (and almost reachable by jumping; cage seemed smaller than usual, or just smaller in person.) Quick match with mostly high spots in the time they did. Chessman was knocked off the side of the cage into tables, but landed badly and hurt his knee. Fenix did a moonsault off the top of the cage. Angelico leaped from the side of the cage to the metal scaffold, but was kicked off before getting the belts. Averno knocked Fantasma down, and carefully unhooked a belt to win.
4) Blue Demon Jr. & La Parka b El Mesías & Electroshock
Blue Demon 30th anniversary match. Crowd was a little into Demon when he appeared, but these four had a completely ordinary TV match (for them, which is not so good) and Demon submitted Electroshock for the win.
5) Alberto el Patrón b Brian Cage [hair, cage]
Incredibly, Tirantes was the referee again for this match. Essentially the same match from Verano de Escandalo, with Fenix and Fantasma as seconds (for a Fenix dive) and Tirantes not going full heel until late and not nearly as much. This time, Alberto kicked out of a powerbomb thru a table, fouled Cage, and put him in the armbar for the win (thanks to Maya.) Cage was shaved in the ring, then attacked Alberto but ended up laid out under the Mexican flag. Best match and more over match of the night.
6) Rey Mysterio Jr. b Myzteziz
Myzteziz descended from the ceiling, Rey had a winged outfit. Myzteziz worked rudo the entire match. Crowd was not nearly as into it as expected, with sporadic whistles and not as many chants for Rey/Myzteziz. Myzteziz bled, landed the 619 to a big boo, and surprisingly lost completely clean to a Misterio Mistica (second time he tried, much better that time.) Joe Lider, Pentagon Jr. and Averno attacked both men for no obvious reason, complete with staple gun spots, but the tecnicos rallied and sent them away. Rey offered a handshake, but Myzteziz spit in his face instead and attacked Rey. Myzteziz turned fully rudo, saying he was embracing the boos, angry the fans were supporting Misterio over him in the match. Myzteziz challenged (semiconcious) Rey to a mask match. Konnan brought the three rudos back a second time to attack Rey, then offered a place in La Sociedad. Myzteziz rejected it, saying he wanted his want to be solo. Myzteziz started to leave, then took a Perros del Mal shirt from someone (a fan?) and put it on. Myzteziz joined the rudos in attacking Rey for a long time before they were finally dragged away.

Air Date: 08/16 and 08/23?

I can’t speak to the US and iPPV issues. I’ve see Twitter, so I know it was nothing but issues. From a live perspective, every match underdelivered. We were having “we’ve definitely seen worst shows than this, right?” discussions on the way back to the hotel. This was a terrible show for new viewers, with stuff not making sense or done in a way that would drive new fans away from the product. You can at least argue the semimain shenanigans ended with a huge pop for Alberto. The mess that was the post main event finish didn’t work for anyone. Alberto & Cage and Rey & Myzteziz were Good, but they needed Great or Excellent to save the show and didn’t get it. The stuff that looked bad was really bad. The stuff that looked like a waste of guys was a waste of guys. It may not mean a lot because the show was a production disaster, but they weren’t messing up a good show by any means.

AAA made a lot of money tonight, filled a big building with a lot of expensive tickets. Maybe that’s enough to consider it a good night. It felt like anything but. I really want AAA to make it, in Mexico and everywhere else, but tonight felt like a failure that’ll haunt them for some time. This was a dispiriting night for lucha libre.

CaraLucha, TripleMania

Cara Lucha (SAT) 08/08/2015 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México[+LuchaTVBlack Terry Jr. (Flickr)Estrellas del Ring,KronosportMano a ManoMedioTiempoThe Gladiatores, thecubsfan]
1) Jimmy Madrid & Príncipe Aéreo b Imperio Negro &Ying Sang
Madrid’s team took falls 2/3
2) Keira & Ludark Shaitan b Felina Metalica & Krazy Star
Teams gave the impression they really didn’t like the opposition, especially Star and Keira. Keira and Ludark took two and three, though LuDark’s knee gave out on the finish.
3) Magnífico I & Magnífico II b Rayo Star & Sky Man
Magnificos took 1/3 in a match with a lot of high spots. the two sides discussed a rematch with masks on the line.
4) Kilvan & Yoruba b Akuma & Demus 3:16
Straight falls, Demus fouling Yoruba (and Kilvan hurt after an Akuma dive.) Yoruba and Demus were covered in blood by the finish and set a match for the 09/16 show.
5) Pólvora b Jinzo and Toxin
Polvora defeated Jinzo with the Polvora Driver after Jinzo beat Toxin.
6) Bestia 666, Damián 666, Halloween DDQ Bárbaro Cavernario, Rey Hechicero, Último Guerrero
Referees called the match when all six men refused to stop brawling in the ring at the same time. Bestia and Cavernario feuded and will fight in September

A fun show. Nothing MOTYC and a heavy focus on setting up September’s big show, but everything was good and cool to see live. We did a podcast talking more about the show which will be up in a few days.

Today is TripleMania. Not a lot of news. Looks like most everyone is already here.  Cage was on morning TV doing interviews and Fantasma made it back from Colombia. Alberto is the only guy who hasn’t been seen. There’s no hints on any surprises; Maximo is trolling people about jumping but that’s about it.

There’s even more Rey (and some Konnan and Striker) interviews today to preview the show. I think the people who are willing to try a wrestling PPV from a promotion they don’t follow will check this out, and they can build a pretty good buzz off of that if the show delivers. I think the goal will be to set up the rematch in a years time but, for the English Speaking audience, it’s just important to have a fun and big show.

I’ll be tweeting from the show,  if internet holds. Maybe a little more too.

Saturday notes: LU Season 2, CMLL app, TripleMania

I’d say its a 99.9% chance that a second season is happening

Erik Van Wagenen started off a Reddit AMA with the answer to the question everyone wanted answered after Ultima Lucha. EVW goes onto say they wanted it to be back by October, it probably won’t be, but it should start no later than January 2016. A post on Voices of Wrestling has some selected interesting quotes from the other answers and I’ll write more about this next week. To me, the January 2016 date is the more important part; they can move the goal posts once, but it’ll be tough to move it again. (It’s also a great pressure release, enough info so people won’t be asked about it every five minutes for a while.)

CMLL launched an official app, available for Android and iOS. It’s simply a mobile version of their existing website, and it was created by the same people currently doing the Anniversary ticket give way contest.

There were people also people giving away a glossy oversized eight page weekly program called Estrellas de Lucha Libre. The copyright info mentions it’s being done by O’Farrell Creative, so it’s another project outside of CMLL but licensed in some way. I’m not sure if it’s a current project: the one I got last night was actually from January and their social media accounts are dead, but I did see a sign that they had an Ultimo Guerrero/Rey Escorpion hair vs hair one a few weeks back.

The AP interviewed Rey Mysterio about TripleMania. All the Rey interviews blend together, but the purpose isn’t for all of them to be read together, it’s to make sure as many people are reached as possible. I’m not thrilled with the lineup – you might be able to tell that from the preview I did at Voices of Wrestling! – but I also think the casual Rey fans who don’t really follow AAA will enjoy the big event pagentary, and selling shows as Big Events seems like the most successful move right now. UFC seems to be doing well with one (or two) actual huge names in the main event and not a lot of great stuff underneath, might work for AAA too.

I’m headed out to Cara Lucha in a few hours. Podcast plans haven’t been decided. Internet issues haven’t been resolved; I’ll probably have something up tomorrow, but don’t expect a lot for a couple days.

08/07 Arena Mexico results (Sombra/Atlantis, Thunder/UG)

CMLL (FRI) 08/07/2015 Arena México
1) Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Olímpico b Eléctrico & Shockercito
Demus Driver on both tecnicos to end the match
2) Dalys, La Comandante, Zeuxis b La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta
Rudas took 1/3
3) Boby Zavala DRAW Esfinge [En Busca de un Idolo]
Double pin draw. Judges were Mascara (replacing Euforia at the last second when he was announced and didn’t appear), Gladiador, Valiente (in for Shocker) and Tirantes. Esfinge scored a 8, 8, 8, 7 (31) and Zavala a 9, 8, 10, 7 (34)
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. DQ Disturbio [En Busca de un Idolo]
Disturbio pulled Maya’s mask for the DQ. Maya sacred a 7, 7, 5, 6 for 25 and Disturbio a 9, 7, 8, 5 (29)
5) La Máscara, Máximo, Super Porky b Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
Vangellys replaced Shocker on Tuesday. Conedy match.
6) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero DQ Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpión, Thunder
Added on Tuesday. Polvora replaced Thunder, who appeared at the end in a sombero to distract UG into a foul from Escorpion. Thunder stomped the sombero and Guerrero challenged him to a mask match.
7) Cavernario, La Sombra, Volador Jr. b Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Negro Casas [Relevos Increíbles]
Main event totally changed around on Wednesday with Mr. Niebla taken off and Sombra returning. Sombra and Atlantis feuded with Sombra pulling the mask to set up the win.

CMLL really pushed Sombra/Atlantis had in the match and the post match. Sombra posed with Atlantis’ mask for a while, Atlantis was stuck laying unmasked in the ring for longer, and everyone else was ushered to the back quickly to not steal the spotlight. It was an obvious tease of an anniversary match, only the crowd reached like it was a normal DQ finish in a main event. The fans were far more into the idea of Thunder/Ultimo Guerrero at this point. My guess is this week’s plan is a cage match, and they’re setting up extra feuds to think you might not get Thunder unmasking.

Thunder again did not wrestle his scheduled match, and again seemed to be walking around fine. Maybe they’ve figured the best way to make Thunder look like an imposing luchador is to have him stop wrestling.

The En Busca de un Idolo standings person gave Esfinge’s week 1 win to Disturbio, a epic screw up. Engine with a 1.5 wins is not going to  advance to the final unless the fan polls radically change. Everyone’s close now, but Esfinge is going to suffer if two more weeks of last place performances are added in. Esfinge and Zavala had the much better match,although giving two guys a mask pull DQ finish is a bit of sabotage. 

Almost every champion had their title belt on the show (which led to an amusing moment of Cavernario & Volador comparing titles during the main event introductions.) That’s an Universal Tournament tease. Guerrero Maya didn’t have his national title, but the En Busca de Un Idolo competition operates in a different world. Negro Casas did not have his belt, and that might be more of a story. Shocker being pulled from cards is said to be a suspension (for the usual reason). It’s unclear how long it would be, but it’s possible CMLL might need to run a tag team tournament really soon and really quickly to fix the situation with the Universal tournament around the corner. (They could also go with a lesser champion or just 15 luchadors, but Casas not having his belt suggested the title may be vacant.)

The entire show aired on YouTube. I’m not sure if that’ll be the way of things going forward, but I do know CMLL’s done with Terra.

Next week’s lineup

CMLL (FRI) 08/14/2015 Arena México
1) Magnus & Soberano Jr. vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Shockercito, Stukita, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia
3) Boby Zavala vs Disturbio [En Busca de un Idolo]
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Esfinge [En Busca de un Idolo]
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Super Porky vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
6) Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Mephisto, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero

No UG/Thunder or Atlantis/Sombra. If the idea is a lot of feuds for a cage, Mephisto/Mistico fits. No Rush back yet.

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2015-07-18

Negro Casas doing a code red

I think this is the last regularly scheduled 52MX recap for the time being. All the matches will air on Puebla first, so there’s no need for these except for the weeks when I miss that show. Until everything changes everything again

Recapped: 07/18/2015