What happened: Carístico beat Último Guerrero, though by DQ, and UG agreed to a match next week. Just, only a one versus one match, with Carístico getting the mask/hair match only if he wins. Máximo came close to beating Mascara Año 2000 in straight falls, only for the new Dinamtias to all run in attack (which did give Máximo the straight fall win anyway.) The luchadoras mentioned the cage match roughly five billion times in a post match promo. It’s unclear if anyone else cares about either of those matches.
What was good: Main event and the second match were the best on the show.
Where can I watch it: I’ll have it up soon.Read More
AAA’s advertising Star Battle airing this week. It appears like it’s only a one part episode, which means it’ll be edited down. The preview also does not show anything of the main event, which may or may not be meaningful.
CMLL Retro may have Valiente versus Ultimo Guerrero, if you’ve been waiting four days to see it again
Elite on the US has the first round of the international tournament, which means some people are going to flip thru channels and be very confused to see Sabu wrestle in Arena Mexico
I finally watched the IWRG mask match everyone’s been talking about! (Wait, what? Oh.) I was actually making good progress on getting thru this list, feeling like there was an outside shot of getting this done before February, maybe even in 2016 itself, and then I got derailed this week. This particular post was sitting around for a week because uploading GIFs broke my site repeatedly and I just gave up for a while. Plus, I went thru Rob’s list and found about a dozen more matches to watch. This is what I have left, plus whatever I add for December. The recommended match list has also been updated.
Going in, we thought the action would be worth the six dollars and the stream would be the more issue. Coming out, the show was good and the streaming had it’s difficulties. It was great when it was running, but there was a half hour break between the end of the free show (the third match) and the main show, when they tried to get the secure stream going and it didn’t work. They thankfully switched to an insecure one and the video was good the rest of the way (and there didn’t seem to be all that much pirating), but it made for a show that went late into the night. Still, as late it was, the the last two matches were the best matches. The tag title match was a standout, and the preshow matches were all fun. Those openers felt like a big difference from the major promotion by being fun: CMLL openers usual aren’t (and are much more restricted) and a lot of stuff that’s meant to be fun on AAA often comes across as annoying or frustrating. This was just guys (or kids) having fun action matches before the bigger stuff later on.
There was no specific date mentioned for another try at this, though that definitely seemed like the plan when they ended the show. The promotion itself heads to Tulancingo and Neza this weekend. The iPPV itself didn’t seem like it was that purchased, and there wasn’t a lot of talk about it on Twitter even just focusing on the usual people.
Today’s another CMLL show killing time before the big shows to end the month. The main event is Volador, Valietne and Caristico versus Euforia, Gran Guerrero and Ultimo Guerrero, with the hope that Caristico & UG will set a date for their singles match. The semimain is a Maximo versus Mascara Ano 2000 three falls singles match, where the idea is people would want to see this match a second time after seeing it on this show. They’ll have to make it quick. Similarly, the third match has Zeuxis, Amapola and Metalica against Vaquerita, Jarochita and Estrellita, in another preview to the already announced women’s cage match on 12/25.
The rest of the card is the normal random tag matches. Rush is back from Japan, and teams with Pierroth and La Mascara against Marco Corleone, Atlantis and Stuka. The usual good second match is Soberano, Star and Flyer against Okumura, Sagrado and Misterioso (which seems to be more iffy than usual.) The show will open with Shockercito & Stukita versus Mercurio & Peequeno Nitro.
CMLL has a preview. It’ll air at 8:30pm on ClaroSports. It’s also back on NJPW World after CMLL being off the channel for a few weeks. NJPW’s schedule also now lists the 12/25 cage match show as airing, which means CMLL is running some sort of stream on Sunday. The NJPW streams have always been just the free streams aired elsewhere, so the 12/25 (and possibly the 01/01 show) are probably airing for free.
El Proceso has a detailed story on Octagon’s lawsuit against AAA over the naming rights. The quotes are all from Octagon’s side, AAA doesn’t speak on it, but they explain where everything stands. Octagon is demanding the rights to his name, and also 7 million pesos (about $300,ooo USD) in various benefits and other compensation. He’s basically asking to be declared an employee over the time he worked for AAA, and retroactively getting all the benefits a normal employee would’ve gotten.
AAA disagrees, of course. It looks like Leo Riano was correct, and Octagon did lose a judgement in October. His claim to have the rights to the character were dismissed, with the judge ruling the actual person couldn’t/didn’t establish they were the guy playing Octagon prior to AAA copywriting the name in 1996. This comes off strangely – even Octagon’s wrestling license is dismissed, because the judge feels it doesn’t rule out someone else actually being in the ring . You can see what Octagon still thinks he’s got a shot at overturning this on appeal (which was filed in November.) It took about 12 months for the first round to get done, so we may not hear about this again for a while.
Octagon’s bigger picture idea is to restart the wrestler’s union (with himself in charge), to protect the naming rights of luchadors and to raise the pay for everyone. He’s looking to do it among independent luchadors. The name he mentions are mostly of his generation, some not wrestling much any more, some who actually back in CMLL and AAA now. He does say one of the goal of his union is to set/raise the amount of money paid for each level of match, including making sure those working the opener are getting paid at least 1000 pesos (near $50USD). That seems unlikely, but the interview seems generally to rally support and to get more luchadors to come on board with them, so a raise in the minimum wage is a smart thing to bring up. Like most union talk, it’s hard to believe it’ll go anywhere but it seems like it’d be a good thing if it did.
Main event is Golden Magic and three people who don’t seem like a big deal if they lose their mask. Pirata Jr. being involved is random, but I’d still beat on Killer Jr. losing his mask. Pirata losing his hair makes me wonder if he’s out of AAA already. Turtles versus Oficials should be fun.
I’ve added lineups (and very limited results) for lineups from 1980 to 1984 from the El Siglo de Torreon archive. (If you follow the @lucharobot, this is what you saw earlier this week.) Most of the shows are from Gomez Palacio or Torreon. It’s not complete, because there are some days which are missing and we’re only limited to the shows which are advertised in the paper. An article in 1982 mentions Gran Markus having an incident with a 12 year old at Arena Olimpico Laguna, but that’s the only indication that year the arena exists. Still, it’s a few hundred more events added and some neat designs as they get into 1984.
If you’re someone who collects these lineups, I’ve broken them down by year. The files include the graphical cards when I could find them, which should make it easier to check my woeful spelling.
This timespan starts out with one show a week with almost all locals at the bull ring for 1980 thru 1982. That promotions either stops advertising or falls apart by the early 1983, and there’s months with no mention of lucha in the paper until Arena Olimpico Laguna (which dates back into the 60s) starts to advertise. 18 months later, there appears to be four distinct promotions all advertising: at the bullring (having come back from the dead), at AOL, at the Auditorium, and at the Palacio de los Deportes. Those locations are still in use today.
The AOL building is Promociones del Norte/UWA affiliated. The Norte tag team titles are the main titles in the building and the title pattern seems to make sense (and makes me wonder if those brand of titles are historically underrated because there’s enough research on them.) Negro Casas & Black Terry are among the UWA young wrestlers who wrestle in AOL. The Auditorio & Palacio also bring in Mexico City talent, but it’s more unaffiliated guys; Tinieblas is defending the AWWA title as big belt. It’s not until the Plaza de Toros promotion returns that EMLL guys have any regular presence (though some do come thru AOL.)
Some random stories I found thru
a story on a boxer who passed away at Arena Coliseo Mexico City. Oro and Sangre India are well known, but the boxers seem less remembered.
I plan on continuing on these later, because I got some interesting stuff out of it, I know more is coming as I get later in the 80s, and it was just more time consuming than difficult. However, the site has put up a paywall (or finally gotten the old paywall to actually work), it doesn’t make sense for me to pay for access until I’ve got a full month to work at it, and I probably won’t have that for the near future. I’ll try to get back at this in 2017.
CMLL (TUE) 12/13/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Explosivo & Sky Kid b Furia Roja & Sádico tecnicos took 1/3
2) Grako, Maléfico, Metálico b El Divino, Robin, Sensei rudos took 1/3
3) Esfinge, Soberano Jr., Stigma b Disturbio, Nitro, Virus Tecnicos took 2/3
4) Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper b Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa Rudos took 1/3.
5) Niebla Roja, Terrible, Último Guerrero b Atlantis, Tritón, Valiente Triton replaced Maximo. Rudos took 1/3. UG fouled Valiente and got the pin. Valiente demanded a singles match.
Triton got a main event! because Maximo was off doing who knows what. The setup, and next week’s singles match being non-title, suggests Valiente is going to win next week. You do never know with UG.
IWRG (WED) 12/14/2016Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring]
1) Bambino & Voltar b Crezy & Crezy Tiger
2) Magic Dragón, Sombra Metálica, Último Caballero b Águila Enmascarrada, Kira, Rey Flecha
3) Fireman, Omega, Vardeus b Fly Tiger, Guerrero 2000, Vampiro Metálico
4) ?, Blue Monsther, Hijo del Alebrije, Shadow Boy b Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Keshin Black, Picudo Jr. Atomic Star and someone else added to the match
5) Ángel Oriental, Atomic Fly, Cremosito, Keiser Drago, Kilvan, Lady Cat, Marduk Jr., Salchichita b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Araña de Plata, Barba Roja Jr., Cadilac, Demonio Infernal, Dragón Fly, Skanda [Torneo Fill] Team FILL (Black Terry) vs Team Gym Zeus (Oficial 911), with Kilvan defeating Demonio Infernal with help from 911. Barba Roja Jr. replaced Black Dragon.
Leo Riano’s column says Elite is expected to no longer air on Azteca7. They’re still under contract at the moment, but it’s expected Azteca will not renew it. As guessed here, Azteca adding Combate Americas was them moving on to a different sort of combat sport. The Elite “season” came to an end soon after, which seems to back up Riano’s report. Riano says the lucha show wasn’t getting the ad sales the TV company was hoping for. I’d assume this means they will also be off Azteca in the US, when they complete their run or sooner. Riano is certain will get a new TV deal and doesn’t even bring up the idea that this might be the end.
Rafy gave his side of the incident with Alberto el Patron on the EN+CARADOS #3 podcast. Alfredo has a translated summary of it in the latest Lucha Report that I’m heavily cribbing from. Alberto’s story has been that Rafy groped Paige. Rafy’s story is he said “pass by, beautiful” to Paige and didn’t touch her at all. Rafy says Alberto flipped out and pulled off his mask, Rafy retreated to the locker room, and Alberto went in there to attack Rafy. Rafy says he didn’t win the fight, but the reports about how hurt he was were blown up. Paige later told Alberto that Rafy hadn’t touched her, Alberto apologized, Rafy apologized for saying anything, and they thought it was over until it got into social media.
Before the fight, Alberto told the press he expects to be back in AAA in 2017, downplayed the injuries from the stabbing attack, and blamed the whole controversy on social media. Someday, Alberto will actually be responsible for something that happens to Alberto, but that day is apparently not today.
Tonight is DTU’s first ever iPPV, with a Negro Casas vs Flamita vs Ronnie Mendoza main event (though it’ll probably happen earlier in the show.) The full card is here, I wrote a long preview over on Voices of Wrestling about the matches.
The show starts live at 7pm CT. The iPPV stream scheduled to start around 8:30pm, though it might be worth checking earlier. You can buy the iPPV for $6 USD at dtu.com.mx. Make sure to create an account before you click on the banner to buy the show. If you don’t create an account, it’ll auto create one, and you’ll have to click on “Users” to find the Nombre de usuario, then “Editar perfil” to set up a password. If that still doesn’t work, contacting DTU on Twitter or Facebook will get you help in English. (Ignore the countdown clock, it’s off.) If you can’t watch it live, they say the show will be available on VOD.
There’s no way of knowing if this will work until it does. We’re all crossing our fingers. Really, in these situations, the issue isn’t the money. I’d rather have $6 than not have $6, but the aggravation is more the feed not working and no one involved letting you know what’s going on. I hope the feed works without a problem, but I also hope there’s someone there to talk about it if it doesn’t go well.
Facebook lucha site CuadrilateroTV says they’re doing a pre-game show live from outside the arena at 6:30pm. We’re planning on doing the opposite. I mentioned this on the last podcast and I think we might actually be able to pull it off: myself and Rob are planning to do a podcast recapping the show after it concludes. We’re planning to do it live on YouTube, so you’ll be able to listen to me stumble over names in real time. We haven’t really planned this out too much, it wasn’t until yesterday where Rob pointed out to me that we’re probably starting around midnight CT, but since the people ordering this show are the same people who are listening to the podcast, it makes sense to combine the two. Check Twitter for a link to the audio-only feed a little bit after the DTU show concludes (and I have no idea what we’re doing if the DTU show doesn’t work.)
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, when writing about WWE signing of foreign women, notes people from England and from Australia are not starting until April due to the red tape in getting working visa. Zeuxis, if she has signed with WWE, could possibly be in the same situation. (It’s possible she has US citizenship from the Puerto Rican side, but her short visits to the US suggest she’s just come as a tourist so far.) That’s good news in that we’re probably at getting at least a few more months of flying double knees into faces, but also slightly hidden bad news. The best case about Zeuxis not losing her mask is it can’t really be her farewell while she still has a title belt (which has mostly gone unmentioned in months.) This timeline suggests 12/25 won’t be the farewell either, but gives CMLL plenty of time to put her in a title feud with whoever beats her for her mask, if that’s the plan. That scenario would also make Zeuxis losing to Dalys the less likely outcome.
DTU Sanchez (SAT) 12/17/2016Arena Neza
1) Flayer Boy vs Toto, Dragón Gold Fly, X-Boy, Drolux
2) Lokillo, Niño De Cobre, Pardux vs Camuflaje, Fandango, Moria
3) El Gio & El Junior vs Rafy & Teelo and Corsario Negro Jr. & Pólux Jr.
4) Gallego & Mr. Cóndor vs Jimmy & Kevin and Pandemónium & Pandemónium Jr.
5) Puma King & Tiger Casas vs Neza Kid & Ronnie Mendoza
6) Crazy Boy & Mr. Niebla vs Ángel o Demonio & Ovett and Maniaco & Psicosis II
Tiger & Puma join in for a show, which sets up a really good semifinal. I wonder what the reaction will be to Rafy this week.
Jeremiah Crane beat Killshot, Dante Fox, Mariposa in a battle of the bulls semifinal (10:57, Cranium Contusion double underhook piledriver on Dante Fox, good)
Drago beat Kobra Moon (2:58, DQ for Pinder run-in, ok)
PJ Black beat Angelico, Son of Havoc, Jack Evans. (8:40, small package, good)
The final four of the Battle of the Bull tournament is set. Cage & the Mack advanced last week. This week, they were joined by unlikely winners Jeremiah Crane and PJ Black. Crane earned his spot in a chaotic match with Killshot, Dante Fox and Mariposa. He defeated Dante Fox after plenty of close calls around. Fox had a rough night all around. Killshot gave him a top rope double stomp after the defeat, making it clear their issues are not done.
There was more on the line in the last semifinal. Johnny Mundo interrupted a Taya documentary interview of Jack & PJ to complain about their losses to Sexy Star, and threaten to kick the pair out if they didn’t advance to night. Jack & PJ worked together some of the match, though tried to steal the win from time to time. PJ finally offered to lay down for Jack, only to cradle him when he did. Angelico & Son of Havoc were respectful towards each other, but did not come across as an old team reuniting, more two good guys passing by each other.
Sexy Star was shown preparing for her match, until she was upset about a spider placed in her locker. There’s something about spiders which specifically bug Sexy Star, and she angrily confronted Mariposa about it. It wasn’t all that successful. Mariposa denied having anything to do with it and Sexy broke a wall with a gloved punch. We did learn that Sexy’s kidnapping listed for six months, but we have no idea who set her off this time. Maybe she should check with Worldwide Underground
The only non tournament match on the show was Drago and Kobra Moon finally meeting in the ring, and not the bathroom. Kobra Moon fought early, but seemed to be no match for Drago. Drago started pausing between following up on moves, which came off as if he wanted Kobra just to give up. Give up on this match and give up on taking him back. Kobra Moon isn’t giving up and eventually showed her hand. The gray lizard introduced last week (Pindar) first attacked Drago for the DQ. Aerostar and Fenix rushed in to help their trios partner. Kobra Moon waved in Vibora, the taller of the two new lizards, and the técnicos had much less success with him. Vibora gave Drago a martinete, and the Lizard Tribe took Drago away.
The only other skit on the show was the show closing bit. Dragon Azteca visited Rey Mysterio in his oddly Eastern influenced dojo. Mysterio is still having trouble getting around, but was concerned when he noticed Azteca was injured. Azteca explained Matanza’s attack last week, but explained it as a positive thing. Dragon Azteca feels like his destiny has been revealed to him, he’s meant to face Matanza. Mysterio said it was a bad idea, Azteca agreed, but decided to go after the monster by himself anyway. Hope Rey gets healthy before his protege gets destroyed again.
This was a better episode than last week, with two fun matches. I was surprised the first match was being hyped so much more than the second match. Angelico, Son of Havoc, Jack Evans and PJ Black are the heralded names on this show you’d expect to have a good match, and they did, and maybe the credit should go for the four less hyped people being as good. The big difference was the second match having the story of Jack & PJ working together (to a point), and them first match was more four people trying to make a name for themselves going all out in classic Lucha Underground style.
Dante & Killshot already make a good combination, plus Crane and Mariposa had really strong performances. This is easily Mariposa’s best non-No-Mas match on the show, finally coming off as the scary and destructive fighter she was billed as in her introduction. The chair stuff didn’t do a lot for me given the tradeoff in abuse (especially the chair superplex spot, a gigantic move for the middle of the match that didn’t mean anything twenty seconds later), but the visual of Mariposa whipping chairs at her opponents and owning the ring made her come off as someone to reckon with. She did well in the vignette with Sexy Star too, coming off as disturbed as her brother. Just getting a shot to show a personality was a bonus. LU is overdoing the sound effects on Crane’s kicks, but the kicks still look great and he’s just generally wrestling like someone with a lot to prove. Ivelisse’s injury stunk not just because it sidelined her, but it also had a side effect of leaving the Moths and Crane without a lot to do. This kind of performance makes up for it, and came off as if they were making sure they didn’t get lost in the mix. I’m not sure the Crane character has caught on yet, not sure if they’ve figured it out by this point, but he did well enough to want to see more of him.
The other fourway had some good moments too. I wish they could’ve done a little bit more on Angelico. Returning in a four way is a tough draw, especially one where the attention is going to be on another story, and he got in a bit, but they needed more (non-roof-dive) moments to remind you why he came off impressively in previous seasons. They’ve got him to set up to face Mundo at some point, but he didn’t get to come off as a top guy here quite yet. Maybe they figured they’d need a longer ramp up, and that’s why he didn’t earn that shot quite yet. Jack is generally great but really good in this role, and that match was filled with lots of fun stuff, I don’t want to knock it.
The middle match didn’t amount to much. It was fine early, but more a set up for the character introductions. The home audience would’ve been totally confused without the vignette last week, but it was still weird for Striker & Vampiro to be relatively blasse about a lizard and a dinosaur walking in. At this point, anything must seem normal from there. Kobra Moon taunting Drago after her troops won was her best character moment of the series, and Vibora looked impressive in his first in-ring moment. (Pindar, not so much. How did Daga get killed by this guy?)
The Sexy Star/spider bit was mostly good simply because it was an obvious teaser to Sexy Star’s next feud, and gives us all hope Sexy Star versus Worldwide Underground will be over next week regardless of the outcome. Hooray. Taya working on her movie was much more fun than Sexy Star’s training that followed it.
What happened: Hijo del Tirantes cheated to help the OGT, which may set up a match with Faby versus Hijo del Tirantes. Mundo beat Garza with help with Taya (thus proving Chavana made no difference either way.) Pentagon still wants a match with Mundo. Nothing really was advanced.
What was good: Nothing. The second match would’ve been rated among the worst of the year if I hadn’t given up on caring by now. It’s the same heel ref stuff that seems to get over live in it’s ridiculous but is so tiring. None of the matches interested me in the least, even when people I often like. This Juarez show as one of the least entertaining of the year and a hard way to close that year off.
AAA started 2016 boasting about having the greatest collection of young talent since their glory days. This taping is definitely not reflective of any great talent base, and it feels like they’re very far away from being that AAA as the year ends. They couldn’t help but put together good matches a year ago, and now it’s a struggle to come up with the next match which might be great on this show.
Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel.Read More