CMLL on 2015-11-06 

Zeuxis tries to put her boots thru Syuri

Recapped: 11/06/2015

What happened: The main event ended with Rush and Sombra fouling each other and agreeing on a singles match next week. Despite all of that, they insist they are still good friends. Thunder and Ultimo Guerrero continue to feud. The Panther & Super Comando do as well, though this week it was Puma who unmasked Fuego.

What was good:  The opener minis match was very good and the second match had a lot of fun guys. The main event continued the big story and had some really big spots in it.

Where can I watch it:  It aired live on ClaroSports (and wasn’t limited to Mexico this week.) It’ll be up on my YouTube channel eventually. (more…)

new DTU champion, Flamita to AAA, AAA & Elite in Guadalajara, CMLL & AAA previews

Ciclope, new DTU champ/photo by +LuchaTV

DTU (THU) 11/05/2015 Arena Aficion [+LuchaTV, DTU, Estrellas del Ring]
1) Erwin, Irving, Luigi b El Maszito, El Porroito, Lunatic
2) Chica Ye-Ye, El Exótico, Niño De Cobre b Astrox, El Chato, El Junior
3) Miedo Extremo DQ Hormiga, Black Fire, Chico Che
Dark Fire needed a stretcher after a sit down piledriver. Aeroboy did not wrestle but apepared later in the night.
4) Marcela b Lady Maravilla
an AAA vs CMLL match. Marcela was added late as a surprise wrestler and her identity wasn’t announced until the day of the show.
5) Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako b Ángel o Demonio & Ovett
6) Lanzeloth & Pesadilla b Jimmy & Kevin
Tony, not in the match, hit Kevin with a light tube to give them the loss. (Reports differ if it was an accident or not.) The Nerds fought amongst each other after the match and teased a hair match for the ANniversary show.
7) Drastik Boy, Suicida, Tony b Flamita, Freelance, Rocky Lobo
Said to be very good. Money thrown in.
8) Cíclope b Violento Jack © [Rancho de Texas, DTU CHAMP]
Ciclope wins the title, ending Violento Jack’s 500+ day reign. Violento falls on his 6th defense. Said to be a good match. Miedo Extremo congratulated his ally Ciclope but asked for a title shot. Violento Jack felt he should get his rematch first. Aeroboy came in as well, suggested a four way with masks and hair on the line for the DTU Anniversary show.

That DTU 8th anniversary show will be held on 12/19 in Arena Lopez Mateos. It reads as though both apuesta matches will occur. Maravilla was taken off tomorrow’s AAA TV taping some time right, which might have to do with her being free for this show – or maybe it’s just normal lucha randomness.

AAA held it’s first Mexican Madness show last night in Guadalajara. Rudos won the main event. Attendance looks a little low in the pictures they’ve posted. Running a new weekly show against Elite (even at a reduced lineup) and when there’s also an AAA spot show in the area on Saturday makes for a challenging debut. I can’t recall them mentioning these shows on TV either.

There aren’t full results from the Elite show in Guadalajra last night, but Laredo Kid had a nice Twitter post with photos of him with Aerostar from earlier in this week and with Pegasso & Rey Cometa on this show.

Today’s CMLL main event was supposed to be Sombra & Volador teaming up against La Mascara & Rush. CMLL even had Sombra & Volador on CMLL Informa to talk about that specific match. That’s not the match that’s happening. Mistico’s been moved into La Mascara’s spot in the main event. The CMLL preview notes the last minute change but doesn’t attempt to explain it. This seems to make the match more workable; Sombra previously would have to either not participate in the match or behave in a way he hasn’t in the last two years. There’s probably a Rush/Sombra spot they’re building to for the finish, but the match is better if Sombra isn’t fighting with La Mascara for 10 minutes before that.

La Mascara drops down to Mistico’s spot in the semifinal. That makes him partners with the return Diamante Azul and Super Parka, who’ve the Ingobernabels have been hassling since his return. They face the Peste Negra team of Felino, Mr. Niebla and Negro Casas. Ultimo Guerrero is still listed as wrestling, teaming with Euforia & Gran Guerrero versus Thunder, Bobby Z and Dragon Rojo. A CMLL big December show would be 4-6 weeks away, so it’s possible they could move forward on the UG/Thunder feud otnight.

El Pancracio interviews Syuri, who hints towards a (REINA) tag title match with her and Silueta defending against Zeuxis & Dalys. Those four just so happen to match up tonight, with Marcela and Tiffany rounding out the trios match. The Panther & Super Comando continue their feud in the segunda.

CMLL’s show is ‘back’ to starting at 8:30pm CT, if you changed your clocks back an hour this past week. (If your clock doesn’t change, it’s stuck at the new hour until March. Look here if you’re confused.) The show will air on ClaroSports. I do not know if it’ll be blocked for non-Mexico viewers, but it has been the last few times on this website and I’d bet on it happening again. (It does appear there’s a block on videos up now.) I may not be able to record this week’s show.

AAA tapes tonight in Xalapa. It’s a weird lineup, with Brodus (Clay) and Low-Ki working this show because they’re around for the ZZInc show the next day. The main event is Fenix, Psycho Clown, Rey Mysterio Jr. versus Johnny Mundo, Low-Ki and Pentagon Jr. Mundo wasn’t on Monday’s taping and it’s still not clear why. This week’s AAA show teased a Low-Ki/Mysterio feud, so it may not be a one off for him; another trios match like this be on Guerra de Titanes. The semimain is a bizarre Drago, Murder Clown, and Speedball versus Brodus, Mesias and Taurus trios. The full card is here, and the show will air on TV on November 21st.

Flamita will be on that show and has agreed to work with AAA going forward. He can’t work on shows with CMLL wrestlers so he’s off of Cara Luchas show this Saturday, with Angel de Oro stepping up to the main event to replace him. Golden Magic’s new opponent is to be determined. Cara Lucha posted a video explaining the change, making them more professional than the average lucha libre promotion. There’s a promo with Flamita at the end of that video apologizing.

Flamita working with AAA means he’s almost certainly going to be part of the next Lucha Underground season at some point. There’s no mention of where this leaves him with Dragon Gate.

Flamita is working the ZZInc show on Saturday instead of that CaraLucha show. It appears there’s the usual level of AAA disorganization involved; the Wrestling Observer mentioned Roderick Strong double booked himself for that date, because he hadn’t heard back from AAA for a long time and got himself another option, but will work the show as well. Another  unnamed indy wrestler is mentioned as having the same issue.

AAA hasn’t posted new TV yet, but has posted a music video of the latest Ring and Rock stars show. The music they use is the Ingobernables theme song. That’s odd.

An AAA interview with Hijo del Pirata Morgan explains his storyline: he felt like he fit better with Steve Pain & Daga and with La Sociedad in general. Electroshock told him he wanted to continue the Holocausto, Pirata told Electroshock he wasn’t interested and Pirata feels he made the right decision since Electroshock was such a terrible rudo that he joined the tecnicos by the end of the night.

I remembered AAA has an online store. They’ve barely mentioned it since TripleMania and haven’t updated it since then. Of the eight people features, two are no longer in AAA (Alberto & Myzteziz), Perro had passed away before the store went up (and you had to go somewhere else to get his shirt), and Sexy Star hadn’t wrestled with the promotion for months before yesterday.

Lucha Memes & Arena Pepe Cisnerso will promote a show in Puebla’s Arena Coliseo San Ramon on 11/20. Pagano versus Rey Apocalispis vs Tigre Rojo Jr. main events.

Lucha Memes also announced they’d have Caifan vs Hechicero on their 11/22 Arena Lopez Mateos show.

RCH has added the brother incredible pairs match of Pentagon Jr. & Fenix versus Texano Jr. & Super Nova ot it’s 12/03 Arena Naucalpan show.

Lucha World recaps this week’s CMLL Informa, where Ultimo Guerrero’s injury was explained for a moment. They also have KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida explains how trios matches work.

Fenix credits Lucha Underground with making him world famous.

Shocker and Zumbido meeting before their match on 11/22.

Magnus would like to face Matt Sydal.

Short video feature on Tijuana luchador Angel Metalico.

CMLL on 2015-10-09 

Shockercito & Demus magic

Recapped: 10/31/2015

What happened: Mistico I returned. That was a thing!

Atlantis advanced to the final of the CMLL Universal tournament. Heddi Karaoui debuted with a win. Shockercito beat Demus before their hair match next week.

Everyone attacked Mistico all night, including his Sky Team partners destroying his mask multiple times. This was then never mentioned again.

Also, between his three tournament matches, Mephisto wrestled for 18:33 on this show.

What was good: Not Mephisto wrestling for 18:33. Tournament lucha was no good (and so I gave up writing notes on it), but the show prior to it had good action. I really liked the minis opener.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my YouTube channel, in both live and TV versions, and there’s fancams linked as well. (more…)

lucha TV preview for the weekend of November 7th


  • this is the first week of a two week AAA taping, so the preview is just a coin toss. I do not know when AAA will begin putting up the TV shows on YouTube again.
  • CMLL is back on this Friday. I have no idea if it’ll be region blocked, but plan as if it will be. That main event listed there is not the current main event, but I’ll handle that tomorrow.
  • CMLL Informa confirmed ClaroSports (TV) will get Tuesday’s title match and those shows going forward. LATV will also get those Sunday shows, and may get the Terrible/Maximo match next week.

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-10-03 


Recapped: 10/29/2015

What happened: Mephisto fouled Maximo in the main event, but that wouldn’t go anywhere. Really, nothing important happened.

What was good: I liked the second and fourth trios matches the best. This was a more fun Tuesday show than normal because of a very enthusiastic crowd.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my channel, but the volume is very loud. Sorry. (more…)

AAA versus Elite in Guadalajara, DTU in Arena Aficion

photo by Black Terry Jr.

CMLL (TUE) 11/03/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@arenacoliseogdl, CMLL]
1) Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno b Explosivo & Star Black
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Magnum, Súper Halcón Jr. b Artillero, Metálico, Ráfaga
3) Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Boby Z, Disturbio, Virus
4) La Máscara, Máximo Sexy, Super Porky bOlímpico, Rey Bucanero, Ripper
Mascara beat Bucanero to set up a title match next week.
5) Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Negro Casas replaced Ultimo Guerrero (still out injured?) Casas fouled Volador for the DQ, and Atlantis wanted a rematch.

Exciting Mascara/Bucanero times. Back to this in a second.

IWRG (WED) 11/04/2015 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), The Gladiatores]
1) Fly Tiger & Rey Flecha b Kabra Kan & Skanda
2) Blue Monsther, Macho, Trol b Black Drago, Guerrero 2000, Vardeus
straight falls
3) Alas De Plata, Aramis, Rocket b Acero, Ángel De La Muerte I, Ángel De La Muerte II
Rocket (or Rocker) is from the US.
4) Picudo Jr., Vengador, Violencia b Centvrión, Fireman, Shadow Man
5) Black Terry, Hijo del Alebrije, Látigo DQ Atomic Star, Eterno, Kanon
Terry fouled Eterno and faked a foul to draw a DQ. Eterno wanted another super libre.

Random foreigner in Naucalpan is always interesting. Make sure to keep your phone in your pocket when you’re on the microbus.

Ultimo Guerrero’s next scheduled match was today in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara – but that main event has been canceled for unspecified reasons. (That means Real Fuerza Aerea versus Famila de Tijuana is the main event. They’ll add a locals match. It’s very strange.) UG’s new next scheduled match is Friday in Arena Mexico, but maybe we’ll find out differently when that preview comes out.

AAA has it’s first of weekly Thursday shows today, also in Guadalajara. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence that there are opposing shows in the same city today. The first Mexican Madness show has La Parka & Fenix vs Cibernetico & Pentagon Jr. in the main event, with an Angelico, Australian Suicide, Jack Evans versus Daga, Joe Lider and Taurus semimain.

DTU has a show back at Arena Aficion tonight. Violento Jack defends their main championship against Ciclope. This is Ciclope’s home building and they’re setting it up as his last chance at the title. It’ll be in a barbed wire match. Flamita returns to Mexico, teaming with Freelance and Rocky Lobo versus Drastik Boy, Mike Segura and nerd Tony. Where Flamita is working the rest of the week remains an open question.

Pro Wrestling Sheet mentioned Prince Puma wants to talk this season, just to show that he actually can. Puma was mute for season 1, because of the problem of a guy billed as a Hispanic man from Boyle heights actually being a non-Hispanic man from Kentucky. Lucha Underground was throwing a lampshade on Puma’s lack of speaking by the end of the season and it’s something it seems like they’d have to address soon or latter. They could dub over a voice (as they appear to be doing with Son of Havoc), but that doesn’t quite fit with Puma wanting to talk for himself.

The article mentions Puma is not going anywhere because he’s signed for three seasons. Given the talk about LU possibly filming a season 3 this summer, that would seem to free him to go somewhere down the line. (It also depends on what they call those summer episodes; if they take just a couple months off between episodes, is that just an intermission between episodes?) WWE was said to go after Ricochet in between seasons but were denied by his contract. They figure to go even harder against him if Ricochet is a free agent, others may join them, and LU will have to compete. The recent Young Bucks contract saga got a lot of (deserved) attention, but I think a free agent Ricochet might be in even higher demand. It’s going to be pretty great for Ricochet if everything goes well for him the next two seasons, no matter where he ends up.

That paragraph makes it sound like maybe too big of a deal. Prince Puma eventually leaving the LU would seem like a big blow, but we don’t know where he’ll fit in some two seasons from now. More importantly, if LU is unable to keep a guy like Prince Puma two seasons now, it’s probably an indication they haven’t grown as much as they needed to by that point and there are bigger issues going on. Either LU grows and they can afford to fight to keep a Prince Puma, or they don’t/can’t and it doesn’t really matter who they keep.

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentions AAA’s hope for Alberto is for him simply to come to a show (Guerra de Titanes ideally) and do a promo to vacate the championship; they’re not even expecting him to wrestle at this point. It seems like it shouldn’t hard for him to even to send a promo in if he can’t come, but I kind of don’t really expect that to happen either.

The WON also notes Roderick Strong is booked elsewhere (Quebec City) the same night as the first Viva el Rey/ZZInc show. Those tickets are expensive and there’s no real telling who’s going to be there, though I think the fans probably aren’t really informed about what’s going on. AAA sent Mesias, Mr. 450 (who wasn’t even on the show a week ago) and a taped Rey Mysterio Jr. promo to Veracruz to hype the show.

Strong and other ROH wrestlers will be prohibited from working in AAA going forward as part of the ROH/NJPW deal. NJPW wanted ROH to stop sending guys to AAA and ROH wants to talk to CMLL but good luck on that. WON says CMLL doesn’t know the US scene; I think there are people in CMLL who do know the US scene, but they’re more in the ring than the office. (And there’s people on the periphery who could educate the office if they had any urgency to learning.) CMLL has seemed willing to let it’s wrestlers work for indy groups in California, Arizona and Texas on a regular basis this year; I’m sure they’d send people to ROH if they asked thru the right people, but they might not recognize it as anything more than that. ROH people coming to CMLL seems less likely – CMLL hasn’t brought in anyone who didn’t come themselves or get brought in by someone else (Ultimo Dragon & Shocker) in quite some time. Maybe if the Young Bucks train with Arkangel for a while?

CMLL didn’t know Naito was coming and didn’t care enough to change around their preplanned scheduled when he got to Mexico, so that’s why he just did the run-in (wander around?) and it went nowhere. Naito seems like he’s done a ton of tourist stuff instead.

Perro Aguayo Jr. was added to the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. Villano III & Los Misioneros del Muerte rose highly in the ballot to join Cien Caras a few votes short of election. Caristico will be added to the ballot next year.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

IWRG posted a profile of Astro Rey, who of course is no longer known as Astro Rey. They don’t fix the profiles either.

Lucha Memes/Chairo has added Aramis, Iron Kid and Alas de Acero versus home building team Sadico, Terry 2000 and Yakuza to the 11/22 Arena Lopez Mateos show.

SuperLuchas back at Septiembre Negro.

AAA on Televisa: 2015-10-03 

that’s a lot of flower petals

Recapped: 10/24/2015

What happened: Konnan passed leadership of La Sociedad to Fantasma. Cage attacked Drago (and other people) for no real reason, was attacked by Drago to cost him the main event. Lady Shani debuted and got off to an 0-1 start.

What was good: The Machine Rocker trios is great! The rest is stuff you’re not going to think about twice.

Where can I watch it: It’s up on the YouTube channel. (more…)

great match roundup, week of 2015-10-03

This is the week where Heroes Inmortales aired. Recap here. I feel like I underrated the women’s match, because I really liked that one.

The Puebla show from this week was far less interesting.

rating matches TV Show taped
great Angélico & Jack Evans vs Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr. © andDaga & Steve Pain for the AAA World Tag Team Championship AAA PPV: 2015-10-04 2015-10-04
great Shockercito & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Nitro CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
good Oro Jr., Star Jr., Tritón vs Okumura, Sangre Azteca, Virus CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-10-03 2015-09-29
good Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Hechicero, Luciferno, Terrible CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-10-03 2015-09-29
good Goya Kong vs La Hiedra, Taya ©, Lady Shani, Maravilla[Reina del Reinas] AAA PPV: 2015-10-04 2015-10-04
good Drago & Fénix vs Brian Cage & El Mesías AAA PPV: 2015-10-04 2015-10-04
good Garza Jr., Psycho Clown, Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Hijo del Fantasma, Myzteziz, Texano Jr. AAA PPV: 2015-10-04 2015-10-04
good Dragon Lee, Lestat, Stigma vs Kamaitachi, Molotov, Policeman CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-10-05 2015-10-05
good Fuego, The Panther, Tritón vs Okumura, Puma, Tiger CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
good Guerrero Maya Jr., Heddi Karaoui, Stuka Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Hechicero, Luciferno CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Dinastía, Goya Kong, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Charly Manson AAA on Televisa: 2015-10-03 2015-09-20
ok Aerostar, Argenis, Drago vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Machine Rocker AAA on Televisa: 2015-10-03 2015-09-20
ok Psycho Clown & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Brian Cage & Myzteziz AAA on Televisa: 2015-10-03 2015-09-20
ok Flyer & Robin vs Artillero & Súper Comando CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-10-03 2015-09-29
ok Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-10-03 2015-09-29
ok Dragon Lee, La Sombra, Máximo vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Último Guerrero CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-10-03 2015-09-29
ok Cibernético vs La Parka, Blue Demon Jr., Averno, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Electroshock, Aerostar, Chessman, Taurus,Niño Hamburguesa for the Copa Antonio Pena AAA PPV: 2015-10-04 2015-10-04
ok El Patrón Alberto © vs Johnny Mundo for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship AAA PPV: 2015-10-04 2015-10-04
ok Meyer, Milenium, Robin vs Ares, Guerrero Espacial, Metálico CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-10-05 2015-10-05
ok La Máscara, La Sombra, Shocker vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-10-05 2015-10-05
ok La Parka, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown vs Cibernético, Hijo del Fantasma, Texano Jr. AAA on Televisa (Regional): 2015-10-08 2015-09-20
ok La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Ángel de Oro, Super Parka, Super Porky CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Atlantis & Negro Casas vs Mephisto, Mistico, Volador Jr.,Ephesto, Máximo, Valiente for the CMLL Universal Championship and [seeding battle royal] CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Mephisto vs Ephesto for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8F] CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Mistico vs Valiente for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8F] CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Máximo vs Volador Jr. for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8F] CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Atlantis vs Negro Casas for the CMLL Universal Championship and [8F] CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Mistico vs Mephisto for the CMLL Universal Championship and in a tournament quarterfinal match CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Volador Jr. vs Atlantis for the CMLL Universal Championship and in a tournament quarterfinal match CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
ok Atlantis vs Mephisto for the CMLL Universal Championship and in a tournament semifinal match CMLL on 2015-10-09 2015-10-09
below average Black Tiger, Rey Samuray, Soberano Jr. vs Espanto Jr., Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr. CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-10-05 2015-10-05
below average Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-10-05 2015-10-05

Hijo del Infierno keep the trios titles, IWRG says they don’t fix matches

photo by Alexis Salazar-CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 11/03/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Robin & Sensei b Cholo & El Rebelde
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Okumura b Magnus, Oro Jr., Starman
Cancerbero & Raziel were replaced by Arkangel & Nitro, which prevented a Magnus/Raziel rematch.
3) Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado b Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, Tritón
4) Blue Panther b Vangellys [lightning]
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © b Ángel de Oro, Dragon Lee, Stuka Jr. [MEX TRIOS]
first defense
6) Marco Corleone, Rush, Valiente b Hechicero, Kráneo, Terrible
Hechicero replaced Shocker. Terrible appears to be stretchered out after the match, but it’s unclear how he was hurt.

Syuri is back in Mexico today. CMLL notes she and Silueta are REINA tag team champions; maybe they’ll set up a title match.

IWRG posted a press release saying the commission had ruled they couldn’t overturn the referee’s decision final in Castillo del Terror, and they in IWRG do not control the outcomes of the matches. In 2015! The response on Facebook to that is as negative as you’d expect.

Here are some times the Mexico State commission has decided the referee’s decision was not final in IWRG:

  • 01/23/2011: Angel Mortal beats Black Terry in a hair match with a hand on the ropes, commission restarts match, Angel Mortal wins anyway.
  • 06/07/2011: Golden Magic beats Ojo de Tigre after Fresero interferes, commission restarts match, Golden Magic wins anyway.
  • 12/01/2011: Eterno beats Bugambilia del Norte via Apolo Estrada foul, commission rules DQ win for Bugambilia (video)
  • 05/05/2013: Referee rules Dinamic Black & Carta Brava Jr. a draw, commission orders an extra fall
  • 06/20/2013: 911 hits Dinamic Black with a chair to retain the IWRG Rey de Reyes championship; commission calls it a DQ and gives Black the title. (video)
  • 07/28/2013: 911 fouls Dinamic Black to win the WWS Welterweight Championship, commission calls it a DQ and gives Black the win (video)
  • 11/02/2014: Cien Caras Jr. defeats Hijo de Dos Caras for the IWRG Heavyweight championship via Mascara 2000 Jr. foul; commission overturns and gives Dos Caras the win. (video)

They didn’t overturn the finish because Golpeador was supposed to lose, because IWRG does control the outcomes, because all lucha libre has determined outcomes and is not actually a legitimate fight between people. I can’t believe I’m compelled to write this paragraph.

Fancam video of AAA’s TV reveals it was Joaquin Roldan who (at least in storyline) is responsible for bringing back Dr. Wagner to AAA. Wagner turned on Rey at the end of the match. Previous occasions where Joaquin did something and immediately looked like a fool:

  • Joaquin brought back Vampiro, Vampiro immediately turned on him. This didn’t go anywhere, though Vampiro did apologize next time him came back.
  • Joaquin forgave Dorian Roldan at TripleMaina XX and let him out of a hair cut stipulation. Dorian and the rudos immediately turned on Joaquin and took his hair.
  • At Verano de Escandalo 2014, Joaquin Roldan removed biased referee Hijo del Tirantes and replaced him with debuting referee Rafael el Maya. Maya immediately turned rudo to give Texano the title.

Perhaps more concerning is for all the false advertising of Alberto being there (as well as Rey and everyone else), the show looks way short of being sold out. There was a note at the ticket window that Alberto wasn’t going to be there.

Speaking of false advertisements, the Viva el Rey/ZZInc shows seem like they’re probably not going to be too close to what’s on the lineup. The show this weekend has Fireball listed the same time he’s in Cara Lucha, and Pentagon when he’s also billed to be in Toronto. The shows on the 11/21 & 11/22 run against Lucha Underground tapings, which should take out a big chunk of people advertised for those shows. The shows the weekend after that include Fenix & Pentagon, who are booked in the US that weekend. (I haven’t really looked into the foreign wrestlers schedule, but they’re usually good about making it clear when they’re listed for some place they’re not actually working.  All promotion is local, so maybe they’ll have more information about what’s going on with these shows at the ticket offices and things will probably go on. This seems like typical AAA disorganization and cynicism; they’re clearly unconcerned with falsely advertising people after this past week.

Chris DeJoseph was a guest on the Indy Mayhem Show; it’s about an hour and it’s a good discussion about Lucha Underground. You’re not going to get him giving away much about season 2, but there’s a lot about season 1. I liked this quote about what DeJoseph expected the reaction to be, particularly with the storylines

I honestly never expected any positive reviews at all. Usually the internet wrestling community is a generally negative world and there’s lots of negative reviews, but I can see why because I’ve seen the same things that get negative reviews and I hate them too. We just try to do something different and strive to be different, it makes it easier to buy into this world. It takes place in the world – it doesn’t take place in arena in Milwaukee, it’s just in this, you know, it exists in it’s in comic book universe. We can now almost – we killed a guy! We killed a guy!

DeJospeh went on to say they felt they could safely do anything once the fanbase didn’t freak out over the murder. This caused me to think of how the equivalent of a Lucha Underground in Milwaukee would go. Probably a lot of drinking. DeJoseph also briefly mentions pitching an Undertaker themed studio show to WWE, and he and Chris Roach first coming up with the Aztec Warfare concept as part of a pitch to TNA to take over the writing job there. TNA turned them down. Thank you TNA for being TNA.

The identity of Matanza came up during the show, and DeJoseph revealed plans changed him with him. The original plans had Matanza being revealed in episode 9. That changed when Drago, Fenix and Pentagon got stopped at the border, they had to rewrite all the scripts for the first few episodes, and the Matanza reveal got pushed off. After all a while, they decided that it would just be cooler to keep the mystery going. They definitely had a plan for who Matanza was going to be, but changed their mind after they decided to keep him in the cage for longer.

Boby Z says he’s not quite sure why his name is Boby Z, but he think it has to do with CMLL trademarking the name. CMLL just told him he was changing his name one day.

RobViper has highlights of 05/19/2015.

Segunda Caida reviews Misterioso, Solar, Super Calo vs Angel Azteca, Volador and Winners.

Angel de Oro versus Golden Magic is Cara Lucha’s bonus match for this Saturday’s show. Seriously curious as to the reaction to Golden Magic.

Shocker versus the weirdly thin Zumbido has been added to the 11/22 Lucha Memes/Chairo show. They were partners in the Guapos during Shocker’s (forgettable) AAA stint.

RCH added Lady Shani, Super Fly, Mamba vs Goya Kong, Drago, Estrella Divina to theri 12/03 show.

At a press conference for his FULL/MDA 11/15 show in Monterrey, Tinieblas Jr. said CMLL was responsible for Caristico being taken off the card. That’s odd that he’d say CMLL and not Elite. El Dandy was there to explain he doesn’t like Tinieblas but he was professional and would work the show.

Colibiri of Pachuca lost his mask on Sunday. He’s Aristeo Hipolito Matias, 44, wrestling from 25 years.

Puebla will have a lucha libre expo on November 21st and 22nd. There will be four shows over the weekend. Last year’s expo drew 2,500 people.

Eric Mutter tries to preview Ultima Lucha II right now.


ELITE Lucha Libre (SUN) 11/08/2015 Arena México
1) Estrellita, Silueta, Syuri vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
2) Dinamic Black & Metaleón vs Cancerbero & Raziel
3) Ángel de Oro & Golden Magic vs Gran Guerrero & Kamaitachi
4) Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther
5) Máximo Sexy, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Bestia 666, Damián 666, Halloween
6) Atlantis & Carístico vs La Sombra & Último Guerrero

Elite doesn’t quite seem to be working efficiently – not getting a lineup out for Sunday until early Wednesday morning is not ideal. Especially since they had an extra week break to do it. Tickets for this show are also not on Ticketmaster – nothing for Arena Mexico is past this Friday’s show.

Card is actually good. Oro & Magic are enemies one day, friends the next. Traumas/Panthers could be interesting and main event should be a thing.

CMLL (TUE) 11/10/2015 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Camorra
2) Flyer, Magnus, Sensei vs Canelo Casas, Espanto Jr., Inquisidor
3) Star Jr. vs Skándalo [lightning]
4) Hombre Bala Jr., Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
6) Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Shocker

I’m okay missing this show.

CMLL (TUE) 11/10/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Yaqui & Nube Roja vs El Chakal & Mr. Apolo
2) Oro Jr., Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Espanto Negro, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
4) Rey Bucanero © vs La Máscara [NWA LH]
second defense
5) Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

The NWA Light Heavyweight championship is the most obscure championship at the moment; 95% people probably don’t know Rey is champion, even though he was just in the Universal tournament. It’s very off to the side.

Guessing Espanto Negro is Espanto Jr. also getting a new name.

2015 watch later catch up, part 1 of ∞

triple team brainbuster of a sort

The annual attempt to catch up is on! This year, I’m going to try to actually post these instead of letting them die on my hard drive. The idea is to start doing these now so I’m not stuck hurriedly watching 9 hours of lucha day in January and to space out some of the TV recaps.

Matches are generally taken from Black Terry Jr.’s offerings or from the TV shows I don’t normally recap. (That means you might want to yell at me to watch handheld matches which aren’t in those two groups.)

The what happened/what was good bit doesn’t quite work for this format. Let’s start by just listing the matches I’ve watched and figure out how to make it better along the way.

Matches recapped in this post

  • Donatelo, Leonardo, Miguel Angel, Rafael vs Leo (IWRG), Mike, Rafy, Teelo
  • La Sombra, Rush, Último Guerrero vs Eterno, Trauma I, Trauma II
  • Jimmy, Kevin, Tony vs Arez, Belial, Impulso
  • Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Black Terry, Rey Hechicero, Aero Boy
  • ACH vs Extreme Tiger
  • Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Liderk, Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Rayan