2015 FantasticaMania lineups announced

Just posted on NJPW. 

CMLL (TUE) 01/13/2015 Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium, Osaka, Japan
1) Rey Cometa & Tritón vs Bárbaro Cavernario & Mr. Niebla
2) Ángel de Oro vs Okumura [lightning]
Okumura 20th Anniversary/10 Years in CMLL match
3) Jushin Liger & Mistico vs Gedo & Pólvora
4) Stigma, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask vs Mephisto, Shinsuke Nakamura, YOSHI-HASHI
5) Captian New Japan, Kushida, Máscara Dorada vs La Sombra, Ryusuke Taguchi, Tetsuya Naito
6) Atlantis, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Kazuchika Okada, Último Guerrero

Tercera is Mistico’s first match since his car accident. He hasn’t wrestled since May 1st, so it’s a 257 day break. There’s no telling how he’s going to do here, but it would be difficult for anyone to have good matches in this situation.

Taped for SamuraiTV, not on NJPW World. Not sure who was asking for an Okumura match but that one sets up a later one. CMLL pretty much flew Niebla over to work random tags, it’s odd.

TNA tag partners Volador and Tanahashi are reunited, good to see.

CMLL (WED) 01/14/2015 Takamatsu-city General Gymnasium, Kagawa, Japan
1) Ángel de Oro & Kushida vs Okumura & YOSHI-HASHI
2) Jushin Liger & Stuka Jr. vs Gedo & Mephisto
3) Rey Cometa & Stigma vs Bárbaro Cavernario & Mr. Niebla
4) Mistico & Tritón vs Kazuchika Okada & Pólvora
5) Atlantis, Captain New Japan, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Shinsuke Nakamura, Último Guerrero
6) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Máscara Dorada, Tiger Mask vs La Sombra, Ryusuke Taguchi, Tetsuya Naito

Only show listed as not being aired anywhere. That’s generally fine, pictures of the oddness of the fourth match should suffice.

Maybe Tiger Mask’s only NJPW main event of the year?

CMLL (THU) 01/15/2015 KBS Hall, Kyoto, Japan
1) Kushida & Rey Cometa vs Bárbaro Cavernario & YOSHI-HASHI
2) Ángel de Oro & Stigma vs Mr. Niebla & Okumura
3) Mistico & Tiger Mask vs Gedo & Pólvora
4) Captain New Japan & Stuka Jr. vs Kazuchika Okada & Mephisto
5) Jushin Liger, Máscara Dorada, Tritón vs La Sombra, Ryusuke Taguchi, Tetsuya Naito
6) Atlantis, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Shinsuke Nakamura, Último Guerrero

Taped for SamuraiTV, not NJPWWorld. Still in the random tag matches portion of the tour. Stuka and Captain New Japan figure to get along well, lose terribly.

I could not have more conflicted feelings about the Cavernario/Yoshi-Hashi team.

CMLL (SAT) 01/17/2015 Shin-Kiba 1st Ring, Tokyo, Japan
1) Rey Cometa & Stuka Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario & Mr. Niebla [quarterfinal]
2) Stigma & Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero & Último Guerrero [quarterfinal]
3) Mistico & Tritón vs Mephisto & Pólvora [quarterfinal]
4) Atlantis & Máscara Dorada vs La Sombra & Tetsuya Naito [quarterfinal]
5) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [semifinal]
6) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [semifinal]
7) Ángel de Oro © vs Okumura [CMLL LH]
Angel de Oro first defense.
8) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [final]

Taped for SamuraiTV, not NJPWWorld.

It’s the Okumura/Angel de Oro match you never wanted to see, plus an authentic bad one night lucha libre tournament. There are some amusing teams and it looks like Sombra & Naito in the final (maybe Guerreros, maybe Peste Negra), but this not a card I’d be that interesting in seeing if held in Mexico. Maybe it’ll be better in Japan.

CMLL (SUN) 01/18/2015 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan
1) Ángel de Oro, Jushin Liger, Tiger Mask vs Gedo, Tomohiro Ishii, YOSHI-HASHI
2) Kushida, Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Okumura
3) Captain New Japan, Mascara Don, Máscara Dorada vs La Sombra, Ryusuke Taguchi, Tetsuya Naito
4) Volador Jr. © vs Gran Guerrero [NWA WELTER]
Volador Jr.’s first defense.
5) Stuka Jr. vs Mephisto © [MEX LH]
Mephisto’s 11th defense
6) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Mistico, Stigma vs Kazuchika Okada, Pólvora, Shinsuke Nakamura
annual Black Tiger tribute match.
7) Atlantis vs Último Guerrero

Live on NJPWWorld, 3:30 AM Mexico City time on Sunday morning.

Atlantis & UG can do the main event in their sleep, may try.

Stigma gets in his uncle’s tribute match; Tanahashi is going to have his hands full in that one.

Mephisto/Stuka feels like a match which has to have happened sometime before, but it’s a first time ever.

Gran Guerrero’s probably not up to the demands of a Volador exhibition match; Cavernario would’ve been so much better in that spot.

Mascara Don is Nakanishi in a mask doing wacky things (and probably giving Dorada & Sombra a night off before the finish.)

Assuming Jado’s back to being retired and that’s why Ishii is wrestling on these. Though Ishii could probably also use the rest; there has to be a better solution.

CMLL (MON) 01/19/2015 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan
1) Jushin Liger, Kushida, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask vs Gedo, Okumura, Tomohiro Ishii, YOSHI-HASHI
2) Captain New Japan & Tritón vs Ryusuke Taguchi & Tetsuya Naito
3) Ángel de Oro & Stigma vs Gran Guerrero & Mephisto
4) Rey Cometa vs Bárbaro Cavernario
5) Mistico vs Pólvora
6) Atlantis, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kota Ibushi, Volador Jr. vs Kazuchika Okada, Mr. Niebla, Shinsuke Nakamura, Último Guerrero
7) Máscara Dorada vs La Sombra

Live on NJPWWorld, 3:30 AM Mexico City time on Monday morning.

Mascara Dorada versus La Sombra, another first ever is super intriguing. It’s CMLL’s top NJPW heavyweight vs CMLL’s top NJPW junior heavyweight, which usually means the junior heavyweight is doing down, but also usually means they don’t do this match to avoid being anyone.

Mr. Niebla in the semifinal is his one significant match on the tour, assuming Peste Negra doesn’t advance

No Welterweight title match; fifth one might have been if they didn’t take it away last week, and I’m less sure why they bothered to do that. Polvora’s going to have a busy day.

I’d be thinking Triton might be the guy to surprise people, do well on the tour, and get brought back a couple times later, like Fuego last year and Titan the year prior. It looks like it lines up a lot better for Cavernario to be in that spot, especially since he gets Cometa on the 19th.

The plan is for live coverage of both shows, though I’m not exactly sure how I’m going to pull that off for the second one. We’ll see.

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Eterno vs Casas, Turtles get another win

IWRG (SUN) 01/04/2015 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Anubis Black & Araña de Plata b Alfa & Black Niko
straight falls
2) Dragón Celestial & Metaleón b Dowki & Hip Hop Man
very good match.
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo b Ciclon Black, Dr. Killer, Roller Boy, Tony Rivera
Ninja Turtles beat Neza Boys. Rafy pinned Tony, who alleged he was only down for two and demanded the referee reverse the finish. The referee declined. IWRG debuts for Killer and Roller Boy
4) Canis Lupus, Oficial 911, Oficial AK47 b Emperador Azteca, Pantera I, Veneno
Oficials weren’t happy with Canis Lupus but the rudos got along in the end. Rudos went after Pantera I, ripping his mask. AK-47 beat Pantera with a powerbomb
5) Hijo De Dos Caras, Relámpago, Súper Nova DQ Chicano, Danny Casas, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000
Eterno was watching the show from the crowd. Tecnicos took fall 1, after Danny accidentally hit Eterno after a dive. After a series of dives, Chicano was left alone in the ring (refs went to check out people), and Eterno decided to run in and give Danny Casas a martinete. Eterno fled the scene of the crime, Mascara & Chicano returned to the ring and were baffled as to what happened to Danny Casas. Danny was stretchered out, and the tecnicos took advantage to tie the match. Mascara fouled Dos in the third.

This is why you have to move when people are diving, otherwise you end up feuding with Danny Casas.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida looks back at Rey Hechicero vs Valiente.

+LuchaTV has Fenix raving about Flamita and saying he should be in AAA’s Reyes del Aire. They were all friends after the match. Flamita says this is his time.

Ohtani’s Jacket looks back at Fuerza Guerrera vs Misterioso from ’91.

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Titan holds on to his title, Maximo/Casas

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (SAT) 01/03/2015 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Akuma b Bengala
2) Espanto Jr. b Magnus
3) Cancerbero b Soberano Jr.
Soberano replaced Starman and goes into his mask match on a losing note.
4) Raziel b Súper Halcón Jr.
5) Kamaitachi & Virus b Dragon Lee & Pegasso
6) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Valiente b Felino, Niebla Roja, Pólvora
First tecnico win of the night.
7) Titán © b Bárbaro Cavernario [MEX WELTER]
Titan took falls 2/3 to keep his title in a very good match. Titan’s 7th defense. Money thrown in.

Reaction to the title match was very positive. Crowd appeared to be growing for this shows, or at least up for the main event.

Dragon Lee double stomp on Sagrado

CMLL (SUN) 01/04/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Flyer & Robin b Camorra & El Rebelde Flyer & Robin vs Camorra & El Rebelde, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
OK. Flyer and Rebelde repeated the Destroyer spot in the second fall
2) La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany b Lluvia, Marcela, Skadi  (posted by thecubsfan)
OK. Long. Rudas took 2/3, Comadante counting the double stomp and putting Marcela in an inverted campana for the win.
3) Dragon Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther b Hechicero, Hombre sin Nombre, Sagrado  (posted by thecubsfan)
Great. Tecnicos took 2/3, Dragon Lee finishing off Sagrado with a tree of woe double stomp.
4) Rey Cometa b Niebla Roja [lightning] Rey Cometa vs Niebla Roja in a lightning match, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
7″46, middle rope Furia Roja.
5) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán b Bárbaro Cavernario, Felino, Pólvora Angel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titan vs Barbaro Cavernario, Felino, Polvora, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
6) Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero b Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente Atlantis, Maximo, Valiente vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
OK, but possibly least match of the night. Negro usesda casita and the ropes to beat Maximo. Maximo wants a hair vs hair match. Negro tricked Maximo, kicked Maximo and walked away.

Fourth match was a really fun match worth checking out. Niebla Roja/Rey Cometa went smoother than last time. Main event felt like they were setting up Negro Casas/Maximo while everyone else was on time.

Rebelde and Flyer are going to repeat that spot on every show they work together until they get put in different matches.

El Patron Alberto debuted last night in Ring of Honor. He won his debut match against Christopher Daniels and appears to be programmed against Jay Lethal to feud for the TV title. That match will probably happen on their 03/01 PPV. Alberto was very enthusiastic about his appearance on Twitter afterwards. It doesn’t sound like he was presented as AAA Heavyweight Champion, and it also doesn’t seem like he’s likely to lose before that title match.

Tigre Hispano said he’ll be back in two weeks on Saturday’s Cadena3.

There’s a lot of video from the Salon Citali show on Saturday, though not full results as of yet. Click the little filmstrip icons for +LuchaTV and Black Terry Jr.

3) Corsario Negro Jr. vs Wotan +LuchaTV highlights (posted by +LuchaTV) Black Terry Jr. highlights (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
4) Arceus & Rayo Star vs Freelance & Suicida +LuchaTV highlights (posted by +LuchaTV)
5) Trauma II vs Rey Hechicero +LuchaTV highlights (posted by +LuchaTV) Black Terry Jr. highlights (posted by tvluchadelpasado)


(It suddenly occurs to me I could create custom icons for each YouTube channel, if I were more graphically inclined.)

Black Terry Jr.’s flick images for that show are also up.

Rob has a music video of 09/05/14 CMLL

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update

Segunda Caida reviews Negro Navarro vs Virus.

SuperLuchas looks back at the Brazos on a past January 4th and Bobby Bonales vs rudo Santo on the 3rd.

Muerte Fantastico was the loser of the Queretaro New Year’s Day cage match. Halcon Fuego gets credit for the win.

DJ Spectro notes the announcement of Francisco Flores’ promotion 40 years ago this month,

Voices of Wrestling has an article about five lucha MOTYC.

Cross Arm Breaker also has a list of their favorite CMLL matches of the year.


CMLL (FRI) 01/09/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Tapatío & Índigo vs Gitano & Relampago
2) El Divino & Explosivo vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
3) Sky Kid & Smaker vs El Cuatrero & Sansón
4) Leo, Magnum, Omar Brunetti vs Exterminador, Maléfico, Niebla Roja
5) Blue Panther, Dragón Rojo Jr., Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Satánico, Último Guerrero

With no explanation, Satanico’s back. The programmer is going to owe him a favor to come out of retirement (and team with two of his proteges.) Rayo/Cien seems to have ended without the feud, but a) maybe the theme here is going to be old legends intermixing in with new guys and b) maybe Satanico is going to feud with Panther or Rojo to give this building a program while other people are unavailable.

CMLL (SAT) 01/10/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Flyer vs El Rebelde
2) Molotov vs Disturbio
3) Esfinge vs Boby Zavala
4) Blue Panther Jr. vs Sangre Azteca
5) Marcela vs Dalys
6) Delta & Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
7) Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Terrible vs Blue Panther, Dragón Rojo Jr., Máximo

No one’s here who’s also on the FantasticaMania shows, so they must be leaving sometime Saturday. Fourth match is a recent lightning match. There’s no ramp for Flyer and Rebelde in Coliseo, don’t think they had those in the 30s.

CMLL (SUN) 01/11/2015 Arena México
1) Angelito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Starman vs Cholo, Metálico, Ramstein
3) Blue Panther Jr., Dragon Lee, The Panther vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel
4) Blue Panther, Fuego, Super Porky vs Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico
5) Máximo vs Negro Casas
6) La Máscara, Titán, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Shocker

Maximo and Casas can’t get a main event? (Might work out better, since they could easier do a 12 minute match as a semimain.) The guys missing starts to show a bit more here, with that odd fourth match and the interesting third. Second is the first unmasked match for two people, and opener is Angelito’s return from getting CMLL a YouTube strike.

This might be the last week of Sunday Mexico shows – maybe one more? I wonder if Saturday Coliseo season will end when Sunday Coliseo resumes; Saturday Coliseo was promoted as a limited run, but things have changed with that project.

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Mascara Dorada wins welterweight title, Rayo/Cien continue to feud, Lucha Underground schedule

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 01/02/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Notimex]
1) Disturbio & Metálico b Magnus & Starman
Magnus was in a bad car accident on Thursday, still wrestled here.
2) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi
Skadi replaced Dark Angel (not in the country – flight issues?) Rudas took 2/3.
3) Okumura, Pierroth, Sangre Azteca b Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Tritón
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Ángel de Oro, Máximo, Super Porky b Ephesto, Kráneo, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Atlantis, La Máscara, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Terrible
Tecnicos took 2/3, with Mascara & Volador not costing each other the match this time.
6) Máscara Dorada b Negro Casas [CMLL WELTER, final]
final for Mistico’s vacant title. Dorada previously beat Casas in 2010 to win this title. Dorada took falls 1/3 to win the title, the last with a casita. Crowd cheered Casas.

Dorada becomes the 29th champion and holds this title for the third time. Dorada winning the title logically sets up a FantasticaMania title match – maybe with Polvora, Mephsito, Cavernario or even a rematch against Volador. (But I keep expecting logical things which don’t occur.) Those lineups may be out this time tomorrow, but the hint now is it might wait until after the 01/05 NJPW show.

CMLL (FRI) 01/02/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Facebook (1), Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Facebook (2), Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Facebook (3), Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Facebook (4), Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Facebook (5)]
1) Meteoro & Reycko b El Yaqui & Satara
2) El Chakal, Jocker, Sádico b Javier Cruz Jr., Sky Kid, Smaker
3) Esfinge, Gallo, Magnum b Exterminador, Maléfico, Ráfaga
Exterminador replaced Demonio Maya and is back to being a rudo. Magnum replaced Omar and beat Malefico (who bled in this match.)
4) Dragon Lee, Titán, Valiente b Felino, Pólvora, Sagrado
5) Blue Panther, Brazo de Oro, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. DQ Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000
Brazo de Oro replaced Super Porky. Tecnicos took 1/3. Rayo tried for a martinete on Cien, referee broke it up, Cien fouled Rayo and was caught for the DQ. Rayo vs Cien or Rayo vs Universo was teased.

Crowd looked good and it does seem like they’re doing the Rayo singles match. Malefico was on Super Libre declaring himself the best Occidente champion (and complaining the other titles haven’t been defended much), so he might have talked himself into a title program.

Titan and Cavernario meet tonight in Arena Coliseo. They had one of the best matches of last year, they’ll likely have one of the best matches of this year again. Titan’s National Welterweight championship is on the line, but it’s unlikely to change hands on a non-televised show. Even if they wanted to do it to promote interest in these shows, no one’s really writing about them.

CMLL has video promos for Soberano & Star vs Cholo & Ramstein and the mascots generally promoting the 01/06 show.

Lucha Underground sent out information about their January tapings. They’ll be taping on the 17th & 18th and 24th & 25th (Saturdays and Sundays) and all shows will be four hour tapings to cover two weeks of TV. They’re only releasing info month by month for now. I’ve read Ricochet is booked on 02/15 but don’t know if Underground is taping that weekend. Hope not.

The 01/14 Lucha Underground episode details completely give away the result of this Wednesday’s Aztec Warfare, so maybe be careful reading Lucha Underground stuff the next few days if you don’t want to be spoiled. Usually TV shows try to hide those sort of plot developments a bit more, and this is a little more surprisingly given how concerned they were about spoilers getting out.

Today’s AAA show isn’t airing until 6:30pm for some reason. 52MX appears to have also changed their schedule; the first airing of Guerreros del Ring is now 2pm CT.

RobViper has a music video of 09/02/2014 CMLL.

DoradaFan has a music video of 11/11/2014 CMLL

LuchaWorld has a recap of the 12/13/14 Lucha Azteca.

Naoki writes (in Japanese) about going to the New Year’s Day IWRG show.

+LuchaTV has highlights of Negro Navarro vs Hechicero from Christmas Day. Navarro praised Hechicero after the match. Segunda Caida has a review of the match.

There’s footage of Rey Neza vs Motocross too.

Kcidis starts 2015 horoscopes with Carpricornio.

Principe Odin Jr. unmasked Cyberman. He’s Luis Enrique Ramirez Alvarado, 25 years old from Estado de Mexico, 5 years a wrestler.

SuperLuchas goes back to the 70s to find shows on New Year’s Eve, a variety show on New Year’s Day, and a busy January 2, 1966.

Ohtani’s Jacket was disappointed by Delta, Fuego y Guerrero Maya Jr. vs. Hechicero, Hombre sin Nombre y Virus. There is a downside to just watching random matches; very few matches get hyped from Guadalajara of late, and the almost always dead crowd is something you might pick up if you watch a  lot of it. They’re quiet for anything except chanting at each other, or chanting at the pretty girls. The announcers were even sort of burying the crowd by saying this match would’ve been better appreciated in a different building. A good match is one where the crowd should care, but it’s possible the crowd in that building may have been taught to care about other things. (The downside with watching everything is you watch much less interesting stuff than this on a regular basis.)


CMLL has pulled Dark Angel from Monday (Skadi replaces) and Tuesday (Princesa Sugehit).

CMLL (FRI) 01/09/2015 Arena México
1) Leono & Sensei vs Akuma & Espanto Jr.
2) Esfinge, Pegasso, Tritón vs Okumura, Puma, Sangre Azteca
3) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Máximo vs Mr. Águila, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Marco Corleone vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker

One last show for the FantasticaMania crew? Ingobernables vs Peste Negra & Shocker again, which might leave Shocker and Marco to feud while others are busy.

One more time for Dragon Lee & Kamaitachi to kill each other. Last time was memorable, this should be as well.

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01/03-04 lucha times

box. It’s after the jump too.

Something listed as “Lucha Libre” has been airing irreguarlly on TDN (MexicO) the last couple of weeks. No one’s talked about it and I haven’t figured out what it it, but it’s also airing at 3AM a lot so I don’t want anyone to make any effort to watch it and have it turn out to be a cut down version of the AAA show or something. (Attempts to capture it via stream haven’t worked, but AAA is most likely since they’re partnered with UTDN.) If you know anything, feel free to share.

As noted previously, it’s likely Puebla is done on TVC Deportes. Noches de Coliseo is due back with new episodes at some point.

The Lucha Libre Boom show aired previously on AYM. It was listed under IWRG’s program information, and it may pop up again.

== AAA ==

Maybe back to normal and Tuxtla Guiterrez part 1? If I keep guessing this, it’ll be right.

== Lucha Underground ==

Back. You’ll be shocked to find out the name of the episode is Aztec Warfare, a 20 man timed elimination match to determine the champion. If you don’t know, spoilers have long been out on the winner, so maybe don’t look around too much if you want to stay surprised

== CMLL ==

FOX2: Shifts to 11AM this week. Welterweight Cibernetico, which could be great, should air here.

Azteca: Decent chance Bárbaro Cavernario vs Dragón Rojo Jr. airs here even though it didn’t on Fox, as they’ve done it in the past. Bucanero/Volador feud either way.

52MX: Mascara, Dorada, Valiente vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Thunder, w/ Cavernario/Zavala/Aguila vs Panther/Panther/Titan as the semimain.

Claro: Felino/Niebla/Thunder vs Dorada/Valiente/Volador Jr.

C3: final build to double mask match, Volador/Bucanero in the main

Terra Sunday:

== IWRG ==

IWRG (LAS/AYM): New Years Day show with Ninja Turtles


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AAA beats indies in CaraLucha, Lucha Underground trademarks & announcers

photo by Black Terry Jr.

AAA Caralucha (THU) 01/01/2015 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring, LLNEI, TerceraCaida]
1) Arceus & Rey Lobo Jr. b Anubis Black & Stripper
Rey Lobo Jr. is a new name for Arkanos
2) Kilvan & Yoruba b Andy Boy & Danger
Danger is sometimes listed as Danger King (but isn’t the CMLL guy either way.) Money thrown in.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Drago, Súper Fly b Fly Star, Guerrero Mixtico, Rayo Star Black Terry Jr. (highlights) (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
Super Fly wrestled unmasked. AAA vs Indy match
4) Fénix, Hijo del Fantasma, Pentagón Jr. b Flamita, Hijo del Fishman, Sky Man Black Terry Jr. (highlights) (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
Great match. Another AAA vs indy match. Flamita and Fenix had issues, maybe beyond storyline. Flamita’s partners (including the returning Skyman) were also said to be terrible, yet the match still got money thrown in.
5) Súper Nova & Texano Jr. DQ Trauma I & Trauma II
Super Nova bled a lot. Traumas wanted a double apuesta match.
6) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown NC Broken Clown, Dave The Clown, Rothen Clown
Unclear if there was a winner; Psycho had Dave beat when Fantasma, Texano and Pentagon ran in to attack the Circus. Clown Corp were sort of okay with it, but also threw out three masks vs three masks challenges to the Circus.

BT JR. called the fourth “the best match ever”, so that sounds OK. All the AAA teams beat the indy teams (or at least had them beat.)

Flamita’s Open the Brave Gate championship is no longer Flamita’s – Dragon Gate announced the title was vacant and will be filled in a tournament this month. I’d figure Flamita would’ve just lost it if he wasn’t coming back, and I’d be shocked if he wasn’t back in Dragon Gate going forward. Dunno what they’re setting up, but I still think this is a setup to a return angle. All the Mexico indy shows might as well use him while they can. You can see Flamita’s last Dragon Gate match for the moment here.

IWRG (THU) 01/01/2015 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG]
***IWRG 18th Anniversary***
1) Freyser & Hip Hop Man b Alfa & Sky Ángel
Freyser, seen last week on an ex-IWRG team, returned here to replace Arana de Plata. Straight fall win for the rudos.
2) Douki, Imposible, Tony Rivera b Diva Salvaje, Estrella Divina, Miss Gaviota
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo b Apolo Estrada Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Liderk, Oficial AK47
4) Chicano, Danny Casas, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 b Canis Lupus, Eterno, X-Fly
straight fall win for the Chicano team. Recap teases Canis/Eterno vs Chicano/Danny.
5) Hijo De Dos Caras, Máscara Sagrada, Pantera I b Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Monsther, Pirata Morgan
Monsther (II?) replaced Pirata Morgan Jr. Tecnicos took 2/3, with Sagrada sneaking in a revenge foul on Pirata. That’s the feud, but Sagrada also asked for a trios title match with this team vs the Piratas.

Last week’s show, with the promising tag team tournament, never made TV. I believe this one has already started to air.

Speaking of weird lucha TV, the Lucha Libre Boom show is being advertised as airing exclusively this week on Teleforumla. Not so exclusive, since AYM aired it a couple days ago. Probably more of it than will air on Leyendas Inmortales, but maybe they’ll show the main events falls in order – AYM seemed to fall 3, fall 1, fall 2.

In no surprise, one of the Gran Markus – “Hijo” – lost his mask in the Arena Neza New Year’s Day cage match. In a bit of a surprise, it was Averno who won, not Wagner or Myzteziz.

Volador defeated La Mascara in Arena Aficion in front of a pretty poor crowd.

PWInsider reported on a list of new Lucha Underground trademark names. (The site also forwarded me to a webpage which tried to download a hijack version of Adobe Flash, so be cautious if you use the link; the list is on the US Trademark site if you look around) There was a line in the first Prince Puma intro video about him being from one of seven tribes and that was meant to be a plot point. It may be a plot point that was dropped (like Cueto buying the guys from AAA), but the original idea was to introduce people from those six other tribes and more. The people behind this spent the time leading up to the start coming up with a lot of character sketches along the lines of Puma than have been seen (though Cuerno was definitely another one of them.) I would suggest not to read much into them, because it may just be a case of locking up names they might use, not that they will.

I’d also point to the recent issues with the Young Bucks as a sign that Lucha Underground may still be in process of signing new people to fill these roles, but obviously the roles are coming before the people if they’ve already done the trademarks and just now are sending out contracts. This is not taking a guy and figuring out a gimmick, but (mostly) writing a character and casting someone for it.

Interesting to note that while many of the Lucha Underground exclusive characters have been trademarked, the AAA gimmicks (Drago, Fenix, Pentagon Jr., Pimpinela, Mascarita Sagrada, Sexy Star) have not been. Also, we all learned how “Beal” is supposed to be spelled, so that’s a win.

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter had two AAA notes (that weren’t quite in the AAA section):

  • GFW/Jarrett will broadcast TripleMania in the US if this weekend’s NJPW show goes well (closer to 10K buys than 5K)
  • AAA wants Jim Ross as an English announcer for it’s iPPVs; Lucha Underground wants Jim Ross as the lead announcer for it’s shows starting this month.

I haven’t been around much the last few days – you may have noticed – but I was kind of surprised more people haven’t thought about that last one. Jim Ross is broadcasting with Matt Striker on the NJPW show. Lucha Underground wants to replace Striker with Jim Ross. Awkward. I’d assume it actually means Striker moves one chair over, making the English announce team JR & Striker and the Spanish Hugo & Vamp. It’s hard to figure how LU could afford JR while giving the Young Bucks a low ball offer, but as seen with other possible deals (Alberto), they have one rate for stars and one rate for everyone else and the Young Bucks are (somewhat surprisingly) in the everyone else category. It should definitely be noted that, at least as it comes off in the newsletter, Meltzer expects WWE to make Jim Ross an offer good enough to keep him from working for competing promotions, and it’s possible nothing comes from this.

Lucha Underground is still pretty to catch up on: the entire history is about 8 episodes, 12 by the time the next tapings start. AAA & TripleMania’s going to be tougher to do. It’s a lot different than NJPW or WWE, and there’s not as many people who are that knowledgeable about it to bring people up to speed. You can’t really go to Dave Meltzer or John Pollock on that one – people may follow the big shows but you have to go to places like this for the thorough AAA news. And as this last week has shown, I’m a half-intelligible goofball so this entire enterprise would rest on RobViper’s shoulders. (I guess Konnan counts, but for all Konnan’s good points, “remembering past storylines” is not one of them. I’ve heard Dr. Lucha is retired so no go there.)  Not knowing the product was a definite problem last year, one AAA supposedly didn’t help much with, and I’d hate to see it happen again. I’m sure Ross would work on very hard, it’s just much harder to get the source material.

(Thank you for your support, by the way. I don’t think anyone quite got what I was saying but people saying they appreciate the effort is always appreciated. I’ve rewritten the post five times in my head.)

The great difference in the two products is also a reason why it’s so odd they’re being tied together for GFW’s purposes. I can sort of see it as “if one niche product fails, maybe it’s not worth trying others”, but there’s very little cross over between those two audiences. NJPW is 100x more popular among the online diehard wrestling fan base, but AAA should appeal to a more casual fan base and they already have US TV (Lucha Underground) to at least run advertisements for the show: there’s decent reason to believe TripleMania might actually do better than AAA.

It’s also random and weird. If you were going to buy the NJPW PPV, I’d say great and go do it, but I wouldn’t go out of your way to just to inflate the numbers for TripleMania being on in the US – too many things can happen. (Also, you’d be voting with your dollars for a Jeff Jarrett TripleMania match, think about it.)

Dark Angel is not in Mexico and will not be on tonight’s show, Puebla on Monday, or Mexico on Tuesday. Link may be dead by the time you see it, but CMLL was still promoting her on tonight’s show this afternoon. CMLL is a bit of a joke.

Meanwhile, CMLL posted a Facebook photo of a contract signing for Tuesday’s mask match. Ramstein signed on Wednesday, we’re told. Cholo talked about how the Principe Azuls have nothing and he’s a real luchador. They’re doing the standard “young guys in search of a big win vs tough experienced veteran” bit here, only the reality is Star Jr. and Soberano Jr. have more big wins than Ramstein and Cholo (especially Cholo!) and are actually already much higher than the rudos. The rudos are actually vast underdogs by any way you look at it. I’m not sure it matters much but some forethought would’ve fixed that.

Your entire Friday night preview, hidden down where no one will find it: Mascara Dorada’s beating Negro Casas for the title. The card update for next Friday is interesting – will the FantasticaMania guys be gone? Will Mistico get in his one match before heading to Japan?

CMLL Informa did air on New Year’s Eve, in one two three four five parts covering the end of the year. Even if they wanted to put out Titan/Cavernario after the fact, they’d have to find a way to split in half to actually upload it. Most views is about 1200 on the last one.

AAA put it’s two year in reviews up: the one from Christmas week, and the one from the end of the year (which I haven’t put up yet.) They currently have about 10x times as many views as the CMLL shows with about exactly the same theme.

BxB Fly has music videos of mid February ’14 IWRG, 10/07/14 CMLL Guadalajara, and 10/12/14 CMLL Mexico


LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news up from New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day.

Segunda Caida reviews Hector Garza in the 2010 Gran Alternativa.

AAA’s Enrique and Oscar debate the (AAA) match of the year.

ChilangaMask has added Electro Boy vs Draego vs Emperador Azteca vs Mike Segura vs Dragon Celestial vs Freelance to it’s 03/22 show.

The Wagners vs Monterrey Ninjas match being teased on social media will take place on 02/25, will air on TV.

SuperLuchas has the looks back at past shows on 12/31, 01/01 and 01/02, but I haven’t gotten a chance to dive in them. So I’ll point them out today, and then probably again in about 14 hours.

Vice talks to Hijo de Medico Asesino, Sexy Polvora and Solar about their diets, weirdly translates their proper names.

On Twitter, @offearthart is doing a series of Lucha Underground art: Pentagon Jr. and Drago are up so far.

Estrellas del Ring recaps the year in lucha libre in Morelos.

Los Colisenos examines lucha libre while repeatedly declaring it’s been dead for 8 years (so it was dead in 2007?) and concluding that the current form of lucha libre will never be successful. The talking point, in those articles as always, that adding recent major events is a determent to all the other shows, seems less and less valid the more I look thru older results. EMLL was building to major events going for decades before they came up with names; it was just “the last show before it heads back to Arena Coliseo for a while” instead of “Sin Piedad”. I like to think the fans figured it out without needing the branding. (The problem isn’t those 4 shows, it’s the other 152.)

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Tercera Caida leaves TVC Deportes, the Young Bucks aren’t coming LU

only a couple of items today due to time constraints; maybe no links until Saturday.

Jose Manuel Guillen announced Tercera Caida has left TVC Deportes. The last episode was on the 17th, they usually run special shows around this time but instead they’re just done after nine and a half years. You can hear JMG talk about in the YouTube link, but they’ll be continuing on with the +LuchaTV YouTube channel project as a group and he’s moving onto a new job, and they hope to be able to bring the show back on a different network. (I don’t know how it works in Mexico, but JMG and Bernardo were the ones who came up with the show name and concept, so it’s possible it can just land complete on a different network.)

This was a sudden announcement, but it did not seem to be a total surprise to the people involved with Tercera Caida. JMG hinted back at this when we had him on the podcast back in September. Just generally, his level of optimism with TVC Deportes changed quite a bit from when we talked him in 2013 and 2014. TVC Deportes itself is going thru some hard times – they lost the cable rights to WWE Raw, and they were taken off cable/satellite systems. At the time, articles were predicting doom for the network, and now it sounds like they’re shifting more onto football/soccer to try to fight off that doom. Tercera Caida was still good, and the network might have still thought it was good, but it was a causality of other events.

Tercera Caida was one of the best parts of lucha libre. I hope they’ll be back soon, and they’ll be missed until they do get back. There’s really nothing on their in lucha libre – in wrestling in general – that can replace them. I also think a great wrestling show and quality wrestling programming in general would be a good addition to any cable network looking to draw in a new group of eyeballs, and hope someone figures that out quick.

I would assume, but I’m not certain, this is also why CMLL’s Puebla TV has disappeared from TVC Deportes. Guillen been the lead announcer on that show, though his cohost changed 3 times in 2014 after Bernardo left. CMLL’s shifted those Puebla matches onto other networks when they’ve lost the TVC Deportes deal in the past. Not sure if they will again.

The Young Bucks sent out a series of Twitter messages on Tuesday, feeling disrespected with a contract offer sent to them (much less than they can get elsewhere.) They narrowed the list of companies who sent it, and then turned into a joke when they narrowed it down a little bit too far. The bad contract figured to be Lucha Underground based on the clues and the Wrestling Observer Newsletter confirmed that to be the case. It reads as if it’s the same seven year low money offer given to people back in the fall.

I’m not thrilled that a) no Young Bucks on the show and b) this is the exact same cycle as happened before the first tapings (wrestling LU people promise things to indy guys, other LU people send bad contract, indy guys are offended and make sure every one knows) and it appears no one’s learned anything and we all get to go thru it again. At least it should be a shorter list this time.

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