01/27/2017 AAA TV Results (Toluca)


AAA TV (FRI) 01/27/2017 Salón Rojo del Club Toluca, Toluca, Estado de México [AAA]
Attendance: 3000
1) Dinastía, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce b Mini Psycho Clown, Parka Negra, Soul Rocker
Mascara de Bronce beat Mini Psycho with a Spanish Fly. Parka Negra replaced Apache.
2) Goya Kong & Lady Shani b Big Mami & Faby Apache
Rudas won thanks to a Chessman distraction on Fabi.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Súper Fly b Aerostar, Argenis, Bengala
Super Fly put Aerostar thru a table
4) Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown b Averno, Chessman, Joe Lider
Averno & Chessman replaced Daga & Pentagon on 01/23 and this was moved down a spot. Fabi distracted the OGT team, leading to Monsther beating Lider. Lider & Kahn-Del-Mal were still wearing Perros del Mal shirts. Averno blamed them for the loss and mocked them for being left behind.
5) Angélico, Australian Suicide, La Parka b Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
La Parka replaced Garza Jr. and this was moved up. Angelico beat Scoria with the Fall of the Angels
6) Hijo del Fantasma, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. b Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Pagano
Los Totalmente Traidors (which now appear to officially include Dave) tried to interfere. Piero kicked them out, and Wagner told them to go. Psycho Clown beat Wagner after fouls both way. Mesias & Pagano had problems during the match.

Air Date: 02/11 & 02/18

Show sold out about five hours before bell time. AAA noted it at that time, at the start of the show, and a couple times during the show. It seemed like the most important part of the show. The local promoter said the building could hold the same 3,000 as Gimnasio Agustin Milan (currently undergoing renovations) earlier in the week. AAA didn’t and does not announce numbers. The attendance bit probably was intended to be a message & to partner local promoters: everything is still fine, maybe even better than fine. It still came of as a implied message about those who left: they don’t matter, we’er fine without them. (La Parka, who doesn’t seem to use Twitter all that much, made an effort to note how much the crowd was behind Joe Lider last night. You can go back months without him even mentioning anyone but himself and where he’s going – that’s not how he normally uses Twitter.) That’s great for AAA, and great for the people who work for AAA. It’s not a great message for a person who would like to care about these people and the luchas they’re having, but are being informed repeatedly that pretty much all of them this week (with the possible exception of Wagner & Psycho) are interchangeable and wouldn’t be missed if they were gone tomorrow. This was a good night for the business of the wrestling business but not as good if you’re into it for the wrestling portion.

There was no sign of any real change or effect from the departures, with the only acknowledgement in front of the crowd being the highlighted line to Joe Lider. Prior to the departures, AAA was said to have the first four months of the year already planned out. It appears they’re just sticking to that plan, just with those guys left out. Even the speed isn’t changing: AAA’s going to flip Pagano eventually, but they’re sticking with the timeline they have in mind (Rey de Reyes tournament final?) instead of doing it now to create new matchups. No one stepping up as Mundo’s challenge makes me think we might not know what’s happening there until the Rey de Reyes card is announced. Perhaps Psycho finally got to win a match just to make sure things ended on a positive note, but they caravan is still headed in the same general direction it was a week ago.

If you’re not into Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner, you might get Aerostar & Super Fly doing some cool thing in between a lot of interference, and the openers now look like they’re generally going to be fun since the lesser workers have been moved out of them to fill gaps higher on the card, but there’s probably not going to much more than that for you in AAA thru TripleMania. You may be fine with ath if you are into Psycho & Wagner, and you may not if those things aren’t enough, but at least it’s easy to figure out if you’re in or not.


Given the current climate, people missing shows without acknowledgement is going to be read into m more than normal when it’s still probably the same nothing. It’s AAA and general lucha libre policy to not acknowledge when people are missing a show, be it for a day or forever. I don’t agree with that policy even normally, but it seems like an especially ill considered idea when many of your fans are wondering who will next to leave. I’m pretty sure Apache is simply injured, because I’m possibly the sole person not employed by AAA who pays attention to AAA spot shows results and he’s been missing those dates (as well as being a 50 year old man who’s wrestled for a long time.) It’s a safe bet Drago had a similar issue, but AAA not acknowledging it makes it a issue where it’s not meant to be one.

Joe Lider still being a Perros del Mal is not much of a surprise, but it’s probably not going to be clear until it airs if the way Lider was humiliated was meant to be a end for the idea, or the start of Lider rallying back (maybe with new partners) to gain revenge.

Next taping is 02/11, a Saturday, in Cuautitlán.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-01-27

Panthers & Dinamitas

Recapped: 01/27/2017

What happened: Mephisto kept the welterweight title over Carístico. Carístico noticeably has lost his ability to win big CMLL matches when there’s anything on the line, but the quality of the match was the story.

Raymond Rowe and Rush didn’t get along, but didn’t fight, prior to their Lucha Memes match. (CMLL didn’t mention the show, but they were clearly working an angle to build up that show.) That match actually built up the Diamante Azul/Pierroth rivalry, also taking place this past Sunday, with Pierroth unmasking Azul.

What was good: Most everything. The title match is the one must see match, and the Ingobernables match was the weakest, but this was pleasant overall watch.

Where can I watch it: Check my Twitter feed (except for the opener, where I had stream issues.) (more…)

CMLL & AAA taping tonight, notPerros to debut new name

The biggest match on tonight’s Arena Mexico show is the semifinal. Mephisto defends the CMLL Welterweight Championship against Caristico. The original Mistico won many titles during his first turn, including this same championship from this same opponent ten years this April in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara. Caristico’s been kept away from championships in his year plus return (this is actually his first Arena Mexico title match since his famous feud with Volador), and it’s an interesting reading on how much Caristico fits in CMLL’s plans. He’s been used as a top star the last few weeks with people out of town, strong enough to win singles main events in some areans. Mephisto appears to be well thought of by CMLL, but this title isn’t that important, and Mephsito might only be champion because Mascara Dorada could no longer be. Caristico seems to love title matches, so this would mean a lot to him if he wins, and would signal CMLL is going to do more with him going forward. (That also might say something about the status of Elite.)

The main event almost could’ve been on the FantasticaMania tour. Ultimo Guerrero, Gran Guerrero (not on the tour) and Barbaro Cavernario take on Mistico, Volador and Dragon Lee. (Dragon Lee should be around for at least another week before heading back to NJPW.) That should be a pretty good match, though it may be a situation where it’s a challenge to follow the title match. Maybe more for time than quality reasons, this looks like the better match.

The fourth match includes the debuting Raymond Rowe from Ring Of Honor, making a one shot appearance as part of a split weekend with Lucha Memes. He’s teaming with Rush, his opponent in Naucalpan, and Pierroth against Diamante Azul, Marco and Maximo. The tercera has a more promosing match, with the young Dinamtias trying to carry uncle Mascara 2000 to victory against the Panthers family. The second match is a women’s match with some of the better names (Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis vs la Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit) and the show opens with a decent looking minis match (Shockercito, Stukita vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio.)

CultIcon also previews the show. It airs on ClaroSports at 8:30pm.

An article about Euforia’s match with Mr. Cacao mentions he’s expected back on next Friday’s show. I wonder if Okumura is with him, since he hasn’t turned up on lineups since FantasticaMania.

AAA tapes TV in Toluca. This looked like a normal taping eight days ago, and it may still be a quiet one. AAA TV tapings in between major shows don’t usually have much activity. The two biggest news items coming out might just be what shirt Joe Lider wears and how running in Salon Rojo looks different than the usual Toluca home. It seems to me like a chance to show that exciting and surprising things are still happening in AAA. However, AAA’s been treating the departures as if nothing important has happened at all, and no big reaction to them is necessary. That’s probably what we should expect out of tonight’s taping (which is not streamed and will not start until February 11th, when what’s happened will be closer to old news.) AAA does have to figure out who’s taking Daga’s place in the Latin American title match with Johnny Mundo on Rey de Reyes (and I vote for Fantasma and Texano to combine two titles), but it’ll likely still be a slow steady build to TripleMania.

The main event is Fantasma, Psycho and Texano against Wagner, Mesias and Pagano. There was an apparent tease of a Pagano feud with Mesias and a turn at Guerra de Titanes. That actually makes more sense now, AAA sliding Pagano over into Pentagon’s role. The semimain is Angelico, Australian Suicide, and La Parka versus Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro. Parka is a sub for Garza Jr. and the match will be less interesting for the change. Dave the Clown, Monster Clown and Murder Clown team with Averno, Chessman (in for Daga/Pentagon) and Joe Lider in the tercera. There’s no stories to either of these matches, and the biggest deal will be what shirt Joe Lider wears to the ring. Lider still being in the Perros del Mal seems like a poor idea, but AAA definitely left the door open them continuing (something like Kahn-Del-Mal showing up to endorse Lider or a new group.) Penta and friends dropping the name quickly causes me to lean towards believing AAA is planning on keeping it, but we’ll see.

Aerostar an Super Fly continue their feud in the tercera. Argenis, Drago, Carta Brava and Mocho Cota round out the trios, which looks like the best match on the show. There’s a women’s tag match with Faby Apache, Big Mami versus Goya Kong, Lady Shani. Shani’s gotten TV wins, but against meaningless people, after about a year of being treated like a meaningless person herself. She could really use the win over Faby Apache to boost her credibility, and Apache wouldn’t be hurt by it. That seems incredibly unlikely though. Apache’s probably there to interfere in other matches. The opener is Dinastia, Lanzeloth, and Mascara de Bronce versus Apache, Mini Psycho Clown and Soul Rocker, which also could be good. The taping is listed as starting at 8:45, so expect results to start to appear around 9:30.

There’s one other show of note tonight. Promociones Contrereas, which has promoted in Mexico State for years (often with AAA wrestlers, now with the son of the original promoter having taken over in the last few months) had a show full of ex-AAA guys scheduled for Arena San Juan Pantitlan in Neza. The main event is now ex-AAA guys from 7-8 years ago (Histeria, Maniaco, Moco de la Merced and Psicosis (II)) against ex-AAA guys from the last few months (Daga, Garza Jr., Penta el 0M, Fenix el Rey). Garza’s mentioned the group will have their new name and group to debut on this show. Garza Jr. posted a shot of him and Zorro headed to Mexico City. It’s nothing; they’re both flying in from Monterrey and catching a ride out to their shows. As often, the luchadors don’t really have a problem with each other, the problem is with the management.

The last AAA show without a Pentagon replacement is the 03/01 in Arena Queretaro. An interview with the promoter says he’s waiting to hear back about who will replace Pentagon, but is sure it’ll be a top guy. I wonder if that interview is actually a few days old. There’s changes announced for the other AAA show the promotion in Celaya (Joe Lider & Texano in for Daga & Pentagon.) Pentagon and Daga have also been wiped from the AAA cartela page, where they often the graphic for one show or another.

AAA and their local promoters have been swift and efficient in changing to cards with those guys. Not sure if it’s because Pentagon was a bigger deal than other people so an announcement was more necessary, or if they’re just gotten better at doing it.

The newest edition of +LuchaTV’s Usted Querian Lucha includes an interviw with Cibernetico, who says Liga Elite is coming back soon.

ASAD, an association of sports lawyers, mention on Twitter that they’re working with Brazo de Oro on some projects for CMLL. Not sure what this could be, but it looks like they were part of the inauguration of the lucha libre exhibit at the Metro Guerrero stop. Brazo de Oro seems like he’s been busy with CMLL projects, as he was also involved in setting up the Dia de Luchador.

Alberto el Patron was declared Mexican Person of the Year at the Premios Ser award ceremony on Thursday. In an amazing coincidence, Hijo de Dos Caras & Dos Caras Sr. also won awards. (This was more a deal where people could pay to eat dinner with celebrities, so it does say something that they thought Alberto was the biggest one they could get it.)

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

AAW announced Penta el 0M vs AR Fox for 02/04 in LaSalle, Illinois

Fuego en el Ring’s latest podcast is up.

Wrestling With Words begins a look back at Super Astros.


IWRG (SUN) 02/05/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Aramis vs Araña de Plata
2) Eterno vs Demonio Infernal
3) Black Dragón & Dragón Fly vs Hip Hop Man & Pibe Alfajor
4) Cerebro Negro © vs Mosca (Argentina) [IWRG IC WELTER]
second defense
5) Dr. Cerebro, Heddi Karaoui, Villano IV vs Herodes Jr., Negro Navarro, X-Fly
6) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. © vs Trauma I [IWRG Rey del Ring]
second defense
7) Mr. Electro & Pirata Morgan vs Golden Magic & Pirata Morgan Jr. [relevos suicidas]
resulting apuesta match will take place on 02/12

Main event is hard to predict, with both Morgans possible to lose the ultimate match. Mascara 2000 Jr. is occasionally in AAA but hasn’t been of late; possible he could be losing his title as part of heading back there. Strange to see Villano IV picking up a random IWRG match. I think I got the Eterno/Demonio Infernal thing wrong at the start (never forming a group, always feuding), though it’s strange to see Eterno that early on an IWRG card.

2016 watch later catch up, part 11 of ∞

Canis Lupus

Matches reviews in this post:

  • Metaleón vs Centvrión, Arena XMW, Ecatepec, Estado de México, 11/12/2016
  • Black Terry vs Wotan, Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México, 08/21/2016
  • Lokillo vs Danger vs Johnny Madrid, Salón Citlalli, Ecatepec, Estado de México, 09/04/2016
  • Canis Lupus vs Trauma I, mask vs mask. Arena Naucalpan, 09/04/2016
  • Ronnie Mendoza vs Aeroboy. 705 W. Kennedale Parkway, Kennedale, Texas, 11/12/2016
  • Delta vs Galactar, mask vs mask. Arena Coliseo Monterrey, 11/27/2016

This is delayed forever because I had trouble communicating exactly what I wanted to say about those two big mask matches. I still don’t think I’ve gotten exactly what I wanted to say – I really liked them, I may have not liked them quite as much as everyone else because neither made my top 10, but I still really liked them – but time forced me to move on.

Even though 2016 is over by any real standards and there’s plenty of 2017 to catch up on, I’m still going to finish out the ones I’ve got on my list. At least that I can get a hold of easily. (more…)

lucha TV preview for weekend of January 27th

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I have less of an idea of what’s going on this week. Lucha Retro was a weird repeat this past week, which means they could air the next episode or they could skip around. Elite on Azteca US did skip around, so they might be up to the final episode taped in Arena Mexico, or they could be going backwards.

Plus, AAA starts Guerra de Titanes, which is going to be a weird TV show whatever matches air. (Though, the ROH episode this week with the long departed Nigel McGuinness as announcer felt much more outdated than anything AAA is going to do.) I expect everything airs like normal, with maybe Daga’s challenge removed, but AAA had plenty of time think of how they wanted to handle this and could go many ways. They have the two guys who left losing singles matches, there are worst situations.

IWRG had a Wednesday show, with Sunday being the Chairo show. That means the new episode might air on TV a couple days earlier than usual. It should still air on Monday.

03/05/2017 AAA TV Lineup (Tlaxcala)


AAA TV (SUN) 03/05/2017 Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala
1) Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker
2) Argenis, Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido vs Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra
3) Aerostar vs Súper Fly [no dq]
4) Dark Cuervo & Zorro vs Bengala & Joe Lider and Angélico & Australian Suicide and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
5) Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
6) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Texano Jr.

Air Date: 03/11 & 03/18

This follows the taping Friday in Toluca and on 02/11 in Cuautitlan. It’s the last show before (what’s believed to be but hasn’t officially been announced as) Rey de Reyes in Monterrey on 03/19.  It’s AAA’s first taping in this city in ten years; that was a very different show.

AAA’s been running three way main events on spot shots for about a year straight, and it’s only a surprise they took this long to come to TV. Psycho & Wagner are in a holding pattern for another five months, and heavyweight champion Texano’s thrown in. There’s no obvious sign of Rey de Reyes matches for any of these guys. I suspect they’re doing another miscellaneous trios match with Wagner & Psycho at Rey de Reyes as in Guerra de Titanes, but maybe having Texano in there will set something up.

There’s no obvious sign of a Rey de Reyes tournament this year too. With the people they have on hand, and with three singles matches already set (Taya/Shani, Mundo/TBD, Super Fly/Aerostar), it’s probably not going to be a lot of fourway matches leading to a fourway. Hey, I could do this:

Rey de Reyes guess

  1. relevos AAA
  2. Taya vs Shani
  3. Rey de Reyes (royal rumble? they’ll have a lot of midcarders with nothing to do)
  4. Super Fly vs Aerostar, mask vs mask
  5. Wagner/Psycho trios match
  6. Johnny Mundo vs a replacement for Daga

Really, the replacement for Daga is the most interesting thing on the show.

AAA’s roster still is deep enough to run two shows at once, at least at the moment. This is the same day as a show in Juarez that’s seen changes. They are stretched thin enough that Villano IV has to wrestle on that show, and this show looks thin as well. There’s no sign yet of any added talent, new or returning, though it wasn’t clear until now if either Pirata Morgan Jr. or Atomic Boy were still with AAA since neither had appeared in a while. They got the call here.

The tag title #1 contenders match is strange, because it can’t happen for some time: Aerostar’s going to be too busy to defend his half of the title at Rey de Reyes. AAA’s normal time scale means the resulting title match likely won’t happen until Verano de Escandalo in June, and that’s a long way to go to hope nothing else happens. Pentagon and Garza were suppose to be in Juarez, but I suspect the four way was originally booked with Daga in Bengala’s spot. That team would’ve also made sense as the challengers to Aerostar & Drago. Angelico & Suicide seem like the best option, but a tecnico/tecnico match might not make sense. There are bigger problems, though.

This is only the six combination of OGT vs the Apaches match since TripleMania, but it feels like many more. It’s technically a lumberjack match, which means it’s a comedy match in what might have been a serious feud at one point. Aerostar/Super Fly should have cool spots, but a no DQ singles match will probably look like the normal AAA interference laden singles match, only with the referee not looking as dumb. Second match is an amazing collection of human beings. Opener is good.

AAA/the Crash/LU notes, CMLL & IWRG results

CMLL (TUE) 01/24/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Explosivo & Gallo b Maléfico & Pitbull I
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Princesa Sugehit, Silueta, Skadi b La Seductora, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
tecnicas took 1/3
3) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther b Disturbio, Puma, Tiger
tecnicos took 1/3
4) Mephisto b Negro Casas
Mephisto took 1/3, the last by sneaking in a foul.
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
tecnicos took 2/3.

Cavernario not only wrestled, it appeared he wrestled without his hurt shoulder being wrapped. I dunno. Mephisto has three singles matches in one week (Saturday & Friday vs Caristico) because CMLL is not really good at planning sometimes.

IWRG (WED) 01/25/2017 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Ángel Oriental, Rey Dinámico, Voltar b Guerrero 2000, Kira, Último Caballero
2) Cadilac, Kesier Drago, Shadow Boy b Águila Enmascarada, Araña de Plata, Atomic Star
3) Blue Monsther, Kanon, Vardues b Acero, Keshin Black, Vampiro Metálico
4) Dragón Fly b Pibe Alfajor (Argentina) [AIWA ARGENTINA CRUISER]
Second defense.
5) Dowki, Heddi Karaoui, Hip Hop Man, Mosca (Argentina), Picudo Jr., Taylor Wolf, Yakuza b Aramis, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Emperador Azteca, Eterno, Freelance, Hijo del Alebrije [Copa Higher Power]
Torneo FILL 56, FILL vs Legion Extranjera. Eterno replaced X-Fly but he and Demonio Infenrla were having problems all match. Mosca (who’s chest was blood red from chops) beat Emperador when Hip Hop Man threw power in Emperador’s face.

Promociones Conteras held a press conference to talk about their show this Friday. This is the one that started as a reunited Vipers versus Vatos Locos main event, and then notPerros Penta, Fenix, Daga, and Garza got added. Those four were not there, but Garza called in to say the new group name and look would be revealed on that show this Friday. Hope they came up with a good name quick. They haven’t had much luck so far. “The Crash” is an odd name, Fenix el Rey needed two tries on his, and “Penta el 0M” did not get a great reception upon being revealed.

CMLL mentions Astral’s upcoming switch to the main division. They say Astral asked to move up a year ago, and it was approved about two weeks ago. That sounds about right for CMLL.

CMLL also has an article introducing Raymond Rowe, and briefly alludes to Dragon Lee & Volador working the ROH show on WrestleMania weekend.

This week’s WON has some new details on the luchadors who jumped to The Crash. The WON states that Garza, Daga and Pentagon did not tell AAA they were leaving and AAA had no idea it was happening. Garza & Pentagon lost the their title matches because that was the original plan, not a reaction to them leaving. AAA’s plan was for Daga/Mundo at Rey de Reyes, they weren’t going to do a mask/hair match with Pentagon/Mundo, Pentagon was just losing the feud and they were moving on. Mundo’s probably still booked for Rey de Reyes, but we don’t know who he’d face now.

AAA’s belief is Konnan/The Crash will not be able to get Mexico television (which they’ve had meetings on) and the group isn’t going to mean much without it. US TV is more a long term goal.  “Others close to the scene” believe Pentagon and Fenix’s outside of Mexico bookings will diminish without Lucha Underground on the air, and all four will be hurt by not being on AAA TV. (My feeling is AAA TV hasn’t been helping anyone besides Pagano & Psycho Clown in the last year, and Fenix & Pentagon’s indie popularity stopped being driven by LU about a season ago.)

There’s also a mention that LU S4 tapings will now happen in December 2017. That seems tough logistically: they’re not going to want to tape the last two weekend of the year and one of those weekends will have an AAA show. I don’t think anyone really knows for sure at this point and it shouldn’t be taken too seriously until there’s an actual day attached to it. The WON says the delay is due to a funding issue, suggesting the delay isn’t totally due to El Rey but because LU doesn’t have enough money to tape. There’s no certainty about what will happen with these guys if/when those tapings happen, but it reads like they would be released out of their contracts

CMLL luchadors are no longer allowed to work The Crash. It seems to directed at Konnan, but something that would’ve happened anyway as they tried to get TV and were seen as a competition. This ban hasn’t seemed to affect indie shows yet – Volador/Fenix still seems to be on – but don’t count on getting those Crash/CMLL matches going forward.

In the WON, there’s also an mention that CMLL is “believed” to be getting $600-$1200 a week for it’s US TV deal. (It’s not specified which one; Fox Deportes makes most sense, but WON had them still on Azteca recently so can’t be sure.)

On +Lucha’s podcast interview with Daga, he mentioned he’s talked to Joe Lider, and Lider is happy in AAA. Konnan’s Podcast Boom was taped prior to the Crash show, though Konnan does mention Vampiro is no longer working for AAA, says Rey Mysterio’s LU contract has ended, and Roberto suggests The Crash may come to Monterrey with the Hardys. Konnan’s Keeping it 100 mentions the show in the description but I don’t what they say.

AAA and their partner local promotions continue to update their lineups with Daga, Pentagon and Garza. The only ones I haven’t seen updated are the two Tao shows, in Celaya and Queretaro, and it may only be because I can’t figure out what their Facebook page is nowadays. In Juarez, the planned Mucha Luchas title match is off because Penta was the champion. Mesias and Villano IV have been added to the card in Ciudad Juarez, a show about two weeks after Konnan runs there. Villano hasn’t appeared in the ring since early December and seems to be be essentially retired except when there’s no one else available.

Apolo Valdes writes about the AAA departures over the last two years.

Octagon held a press conference yesterday to announce his first Legado Dragon show. The card is nothing special, just Octagon and Fuerza in a tag match so they pretend they’re close to doing the mask match. It’s pretty much a Tinieblas Jr. FULL show with Octagon, Hijo del Octagon, and Dragon Dorado from the reality series added. Octagon announced another announce on February 21st. Octagon’s most recent argument was luchadors were not being paid enough; there was no specific mention of what the luchadors on his show were getting paid.

Ripper told R de Rudo that he changed his name from Psicosis (at least on TV) because AAA held him hostage with harassing lawsuits until he did it. Ripper says it like he didn’t lose any lawsuit, but fighting them cost too much.

AAA posted video of the TripleMania press conference, first attempt. They had Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner go back to do the face off on Wednesday.

ESTO interviewed Dalys, mostly focused on feuding with Marcela. She mentions she and Negro Casas will reach 24 years of marriage this March.

El Universal Queretaro has interviews with Drabek I (a police officer in his day job) and Nieto de Halcon Negro (who’s family has battled addiction problems) as part of a series on lucha in Arena Queretaro.

The Expo Mascaras is being held at the Monumento a la Revolucion on February 19th.

Hechicero teased being Zach Sabre Jr.’s opponent for his upcoming Lucha Memes appearance.

Segunda Caida reviews Kahoz vs La Fiera.


CMLL (TUE) 01/31/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Fugaz & Neutrón vs Destructor & Linterna
2) Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Star Black vs Akuma, Cholo, Ráfaga
3) La Vaquerita, Silueta, Skadi vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Shocker

Sometimes this Tuesday Guadalajara cards look like the best cards of the week. This is not one of those times. Trios champs teaming in the semimain.

Neutron has been around long enough to face the previous Fugaz (Ramstein) and team with a new one.

Perros del Mal, Lucha World Cup outside of Mexico?, AAA TV schedule

photo by CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 01/24/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon]
1) Acero & Aéreo b Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo b Flyer, Metatrón, Star Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Fuego b Skándalo [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Pegasso, Stigma, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa b Ripper, Sam Adonis, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente DQ Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Bucanero fouled Stuka.

Sounds like a just OK show. CMLL’s depth is not that great right now. Tuesday Arena Mexico is getting the people who aren’t big enough names to work the weekly Guadalara show, and the end of CMLL’s roster is iffy at best.

Penta, Daga and Garza Jr. all posted messages on Facebook resigning from the Perros del Mal yesterday. Daga & Pentagon both thank Perro for helping their career, recall that Perro told them they’d have to travel their own path someday, and said they’re doing that today. Garza’s is slightly different, praising Hector Garza as well and talking about how he wanted to represent the same group as Perro and Hector, but were told they couldn’t use the name and so will create a new one. The statements were well written and seemed coordinated.

At the AAA press conference, Dorian Roldan noted the Perros del Mal name is trademark of the family. Those statements suggest the Perros told the ex-AAA guys they couldn’t use it. We don’t know if Joe Lider will still use it. It would look silly for Lider and/or new people to be Perros del Mal and hopefully this is the end of it. We’ll find out on Friday.

TripleMania tickets went on sale yesterday, and the first four rows are already sold out. I figured they would go fast. AAA has super fans like any other promotion, who are going to find a way to pay to be there for the biggest show of the year. Maybe the rest of the building will be slower, but maybe not. They filled the place with Pagano/Psycho last year, Wagner/Psycho is already a bigger deal. Even with nothing else on the card, AAA will do fine on that show. The rest of the year is trickier, but this show seem should fine.

After the press conference, Dorian Roldan told R de Rudo “there is great possibility” the Lucha World Cup is run in a different country this year.  This came up last year, with Dorian saying he’d prefer to run it in the US while Victoria was leaning towards Japan. Victoria foots the bill for this event, so it’s ultimately their call. I got a question about this on Twitter if California was a possibility, and it got me thinking about the MMM conversation with Eric Van Wagenen. Van Wagenen hinted at live shows late spring/early summer out in California where the hosts live. I presumed he meant Lucha Underground branded shows, and maybe that’s just what they are. But, that description also would fit a May date for a Lucha World Cup. I dunno; there’s not enough to here to be even slightly confident, but just a thing to consider.

AAA also handed out their current taping schedule for the year at the press conference. You can see the pre-TripleMania press shows here. The post TripleMania has a few more tentative dates (though probably everything is subject to changes) and I’m adding it to the big AAA chart. This stuff really interests me, and the stuff that I found the most interesting.

  • Rey de Reyes, AAA’s next big show, appears to be on 03/19 in Monterrey. That show is at the bull ring and a later show at Arena Solidaridad. They’re not running Arena Coliseo Monterrey (Multimedio’s venue.)
  • AAA is coming to Tijuana on 04/21. It’s their first show there since 2005, and interesting since that’s the The Crash’s hometown. (It’s probably with local promoter EMW, since they’ve been bringing in AAA talent regularly.)
  • There’s a big break between tapings in late April/first half of May. That’s where the Lucha World Cup has gone in previous years, and that sort of break fits with AAA traveling elsewhere for a week.
  • There’s no obvious Verano de Escandalo date. It really doesn’t fit the calendar to have one – TripleMania’s going to be the biggest thing in mind after the World Cup – but there’s a bunch of tapings who could use the name.
  • AAA’s taping quickly after TripleMania, four days later in San Luis Potosi. That might allow them to keep most or all of TripleMania off free TV.
  • The Hard Rock show is September 16, the same time as usual.
  • Heroes Inmortales is either in Pachuca or Queretaro as listed now
  • They don’t list the December locations, but it does appear they plan on returning to traditional year ending Guerra de Titanes instead of starting the year with it (as has happened the last two years.)
  • I haven’t counted it up yet, but there seems like more tapings this year. That means more tapings which only last one week, which is probably a good thing with their current roster depth.
  • AAA is in Mexico State the next couple of tapings and runs Neza in July, but that’s it for Mexico City area adjacent shows outside of TripleMania. They could always add Naucalpan or Juan de la Barrera later on, but it’s not there now.

There’s a couple of other unusual places, and the weirdness of going to the relatively small state of Tlaxcala three times in about six weeks, but it looks like a normal AAA year. Most of the shows listed are sold shows – the local promoter is paying AAA a fee to bring them in, with the idea they’ll sell enough ticket to profit. These deals were surely made before the departures, but do indicate the local promoters still feel like AAA’s a solid investment.

Texano replaces Pentagon Jr. in Arena Aficion on Tuesday.

Alberto dos Rios defeated Negro Navarro in Monterrey on Sunday – and then announced he was retiring for personal reasons. He’s not even 20, so maybe we’ll see him again someday.

CultIcon writes about downfall of AAA.

The latest En+Carados podcast has Daga, Keira, and Hijo del Tirantes as guests.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Segunda Caida reviews the MS-1 vs Sangre Chicana hair match from 1983, the best match of the year.

The Crash announced Blue Demon Jr. for 02/25. Hope he’s getting the match with Ricochet.


CMLL (TUE) 01/31/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial vs El Coyote & Grako
2) Flyer, Robin, Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Tritón vs Raziel [lightning]
4) La Jarochita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs La Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
5) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger
6) Carístico, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero

Panthers versus Casas again! And maybe the main event will be good. I have no idea what why the women’s match is fourth; there’s not big names in the early matches, I guess. CMLL’s not exactly doing more with Triton this time than they did last time.

AAA announces Psycho/Wagner (again), Puebla, Mexico

CMLL (SUN) 01/22/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, Domingos Familiares]
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Capitán Cobra b Destello & Destructor
Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Fugaz & Johnny Dinamo b Linterna & Mr. Brisa
Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Neutrón, Sky Kid, Smaker b Évola, Relámpago, Thunder Boy
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Flash II, Star Black, Vaquero Jr. b Exterminador, Gran Kenut, León Blanco
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Joker © b Frezzer [OCCIDENTE MIDDLE]
Joker took 2/3. Furia Roja helped Frezzer in the first, then was DQed for involving in the second. 2nd defense

Sadico was Joker’s second, which sets up Sadico/Furia Roja next week. Joker & Star Black still seem like the names to watch here.

CMLL (MON) 01/23/2017 Arena Puebla [Plantilla Deportiva]
1) Lestat, Rey Samuray, Zaeta Roja b King Jaguar, Perverso, Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Perverso (Hijo del Perverso)’s debut.
2) Acero, Aéreo, Asturiano b Espíritu Maligno, Mini Joker, Pierrothito LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Diamante Azul b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Valiente DQ La Máscara, Máscara Año 2000, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
La Mascara fouled Marco.

So La Mascara/Marco is the feud. Show was said to be bad, with the last couple matches being very boring.

In an interview from about a week ago, Máscara Año 2000 says he considered retiring until CMLL brought him back. Why, CMLL. Why.

Today’s starts the return of the FantasticaMania crew, though most aren’t on the Arena Mexico show, which remains a weak directionless show. Atlantis & Stuka return to team with Valiente against Rey Bucanero, Shocker and Terrible. The semimain has Angel de Oro, Guerrero Maya, Rey Cometa against Ripper, Adonis and Vangellys in the best sounding match on the show. Misterioso & Sagrado team up with Virus to face Pegasso, Stigma and Triton. Fuego versus Skandalo is the lightning match, which is not the greatest use of a lightning match. Flyer, Star Jr. and Metatron (first match in DF since November) face Arkangel, Canelo and Hijo del Signo in something you’ll want to skip. The opener is not much better: CMLL’s two worst mini rudos Pequeno Universo & Pequeno Violencia against Acero & Aereo. Aereo has not had a match without Acero since November, and that was only because Astral was hurt that week. They should get matching gear and a team name at this point. The show will air at 7:30 pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel. You probably shouldn’t turn up until at least half way thru, if you watch it at all.

Guadalajara has Negro Casas vs Mephisto and Dragon Lee, Mistico and Volador against Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Ultimo Guerrero. Tercera is Blue Panther, Esfinge, and the Panther versus Disturbio, Puma and Tiger. I have no idea how hard they’re working on Guadalajara shows but this is a very good card on paper.

AAA had a press conference for TripleMania today. The plan was for Psycho Clown and Dr. Wagner to sign for their mask match in Arena Ciudad de Mexico, the site of the match on August 26th. Unfortunately, Dr. Wagner is still in Torreon, stuck due to plane issues. (It must be a mechanical problem, because the weather looks great in the photos.) Instead, the story they went was Psycho and Wagner had actually already signed the contract. A lawyer insisted it was a legal deal and Wagner phoned in to hype the match. They made a point of  no one else will be added to the match and it will remain a one on one match. That’s been the most obvious failsafe leading up to the match, adding a third person to lose if Wagner holds AAA up at the last second and they don’t want to Psycho Clown to lose or Psycho doesn’t want to lose either. (What it does mean is they’re now confident they can get Psycho Clown to do business if Wagner does not – or they’re just not afraid to go back on their word later.) Psycho went as far as saying no one else would interfere and Joaquin mentioned that’s part of the contract, which is hard to believe in an AAA big match. Dorian also said the match would have a winner, no draw.

Tickets will go on sale for TripleMania today. The entire point of this press conference was to convince people who might be tickets that the main event is actually going to happen. (Having their money for up to seven months is a nice benefit.) This wasn’t succesfull in making myself care, but I think it was good enough to sell some tickets. They would’ve sold more if Wagner was there in person. Dorian mentioned there’d be future press conferences to talk about TripleMania, and I expect they’ll try to do what they couldn’t do here with a Wagner/Psycho confrontation.

EditTickets are on sale here, though the website wasn’t working for me on Chrome. It’s 264 Mexican Pesos (12 USD) for the cheapest seats on sale today, and 4680 Mexican Pesos ($218 USD) for ringside. Despite mine feelings or maybe yours on AAA, those ringside tickets usually go fast and probably will go quick again. AAA holds back a few, which means they’ll go faster, but there’s always super AAA fans who will spend a lot to be up close for the biggest show of the year. It’s the rest of the arena that needs seven months of hype to sell.

AAA also announced upcoming shows in Toluca,  Cuautitlán, Tlaxcala, Monterrey, Ciudad Juárez, Aguascalientes, Neza, and San Luis. Those appeared to be tapings (they said there would be 17 tapings total before TripleMania.) We know some of them already. Toluca is Friday, Cuautitlan is 02/11, Tlaxcala is 03/05 and San Luis Potosi is 04/12. If the taping list is in order, AAA would be taping pretty every week in between Tlaxcala & SLP. That doesn’t seem right. I think Monterrey has to be Rey de Reyes, because none of the other cities fit for it.

AAA kept with the line their wrestlers have been saying elsewhere on the jumps: everyone’s there wants to be there, and they wish the others good luck. Psycho Clown framed it as just normal talent movement and said AAA was stronger than ever, while switching the topic to hoping his father could be his second on the card if legally permitted. Dorian said the future of the Perros del Mal group is the decision of the Aguayo family; it’s the families trademark and not AAA. (I suspect that means we won’t see Lider with the shirt and music on Friday.)

Updated AAA lineups without Pentagon, Daga and Garza started to be advertised last night. Friday night’s taping in Toluca will have Chessman & Averno now teaming with Daga to fight the Clowns and La Parka replacing Garza with Australian Suicide & Angelico to face the Xinetez. The La Parka match is now the semifinal, La Parka isn’t working the fourth match on a TV taping. There’s also updated lineups for Sunday’s Arena Neza show, 02/01 in Madero and the 02/03 Arena Campeones show, all replacing Pentagon & Daga. There’s plenty more of those to come, but getting replacement posters is a nice improvement from usual. (I don’t want to give a round of applause for something that should be standard, but I’m appreciative of the effort.)

Every full time AAA star is now booked in Toluca. Mundo, Taya and other foreigners aren’t around, extra unpushed guys like Bengala & Parka Negra can still be fill ins, and there’s miscellaneous minis and women missing, but no else important. That lineup is pretty much what AAA is at this point, for better or worse. The smaller roster is going to put a bigger strain on those who are left: Psycho Clown replaces Pentagon in Arena Neza, but he’s also still listed as main eventing Arena Lopez Mateos the same night. This seems like the time for an big influx of people (the return of Cibernetico and friends if Elite doesn’t run tapings?), but there’s no sign of that happening and it’s unclear if AAA is able to bring people at this point.

Garza Jr. told Record that one of the main reasons he left was AAA was situations where indie promotions would call up the office to try and book him, AAA would tell them Garza Jr. was booked somewhere, and then Garza wouldn’t end up booked at all. It was costing him money, and he knew he could get the bookings on his own, so he wasn’t included to stay. Record has a deal with AAA, so it’s notcable to see negative AAA stories there.  (I can not wait to see the spin in Leo Riano’s column in the next could days, should be amazing.)

Drago & Pentagon Jr. will be in New York on 02/19. AAA doesn’t seem to be pulling their guys from US indie shows which book Pentagon.

Juan Diego Frias was named new lucha libre commissioner in Tijuana. The article mentions promotions the Crash, Cholo, and EMW are the only three licensed in the area right now (which usually only refers to the Auditorio or bigger arenas.)

Luchas 2000 #858 has highlights from Guerra de Titanes & Villano III being honored. Box Y Lucha #3268 has an upcoming boxing match, Astral and Villano III. This is one of those times where those magazines had to be finished off at just the wrong time and they won’t have anything on the jumps until next week.

Los Reyes del Biutiful have had ArezCentvrion, and Latigo on as a recent guests. I want to find out what they had to say but haven’t listened yet.

LuchaWorld has the latest Poster-Mania.

AAA’s put up this week’s TV show, the last show taped in 2017. I think they probably should make an effort to make it seem less dated next time (no Christmas outfits for something airing in mid January), but I suppose they have bigger issues at the moment.

Long time Tijuana luchador Tury Gonzalez passed away Monday.

CHIKARA announced Emperador Azteca would be coming in for their National Pro Wrestling show on February 4th. He’s never worked in the US as far as I know. He’s not as flashy as other IWRG to super indie guys, but he’s very consistent. CHIKARA streams this show free via Facebook Live, and it’s probably a chance for him to work more if he does well and is willing to travel.

Chicago’s Gringo Loco is back wrestling for AIW on 02/17. He had said he hoped to be back in the ring by February so that’s right on track.

Penta 0M faces Will Ospreay on 03/12 in London for XWA.

A profile of the SAW WAG promotion in Colombia.


CMLL (MON) 01/30/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Meyer, París, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Ares, El Malayo, Sombra Diabólika
2) Acero, Aéreo, Asturiano vs Demus 3:16, Mini Joker, Pierrothito
3) Drone, Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Bobby Z, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
4) Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
5) La Máscara, Máscara Año 2000, Rush vs Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy [Relevos Increíbles]

One more week of build for La Mascara & Marco. Main event is listed as Relevos Incredibles even though Rush & Mascara are rudos by every definition. Middle matches might be good. Another week with a minis match.

new lucha videos for the weekend of January 20th, 2017

Lucha Libre Retro was a repeat – or more accurately, a new episode with old matches. Hopefully it was just a one time thing. Currently, it’s the only Mexico based first run show I get on the (overpriced) Hispanic channel tier:

  • Multimedios/Noche de Coliseo is gone, with a faint hope for a return
  • 52MX is really just stuff that’s already being posted on CMLL’s channel quicker, better, and more complete
  • AYM airs IWRG, but I can get it off the internet feed about a week sooner. (TV does have better VQ, but +LuchaTV has been the top matches themselves within a few days with even better VQ already)
  • Elite on Azteca is a repeat, and I think that’s Azteca is actually part of my normal package anyway
  • Everything else is an internet feed and wouldn’t be affected if I dropped that package.

WWC is on that tier, but I only watch it to edit out the commercials, and would’ve stopped recording it a few different times if not for people asking about it. I assume Lucha Retro will have new matches soon and hopefully something else will pop up. If not, there may be changes.

PROESA, the show you’ve forgotten existed, didn’t even show up as a rerun this week. Efekto skipped it entirely, and the Facebook places which were still hyping the show stopped mentioning. I’m assuming it’s dead.

YouTube: Playlist

01/21 & 01/22 WWC: Cloud Drive

01/21 Elite: Cloud Drive

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-01-20
taped 2017-01-20 @ Arena México
Cloud Drive
1) Flyer & Oro Jr. vs Akuma & Inquisidor
2) Fuego, Pegasso, The Panther vs Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
3) Tritón vs Misterioso Jr. in a lightning match
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Marco Corleone vs Felino, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
6) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible

AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21
taped 2016-12-17 @ Plaza de Toros Belisario Arteaga, Chilpancingo, Guerrero
Cloud Drive
1) Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscara de Bronce vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown
2) Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Súper Fly
3) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-01-21
taped 2017-01-09 @ Arena Puebla
Cloud Drive
1) Blue Panther Jr., The Panther, Titán vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
2) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
3) Atlantis, Carístico, Diamante Azul vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-01-23
taped 2017-01-22 @ Arena Naucalpan
Cloud Drive
1) Freelance vs Aramis, Araña de Plata, Demonio Infernal, Black Dragón
2) Dragón Fly, Emperador Azteca, Veneno vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Heddi Karaoui, Herodes Jr.
3) Golden Magic & Mr. Electro vs Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan Jr.
4) Imposible vs Relámpago for the IWRG Intercontinental Middleweight Championship