CMLL on 2017-02-03 

Dragon Rojo blasts his hat off

Recapped: 02/03/2017

What happened: a Los Ingobernables continues to feud with Diamante Azul, only this time Azul abandoned his mask to foul Pierroth and get the win. The Revolucionarios won again as a team, continuing their win streak since adding Bobby Z (who was joked to be Bobby Villa on the night.) My internet went out a couple times and I missed portions of the show.

What was good: Titan/Cavernario was really good and what I saw of the the Revolucionarios trios was pretty good. The main was bad.

Where can I watch it: The matches I have complete will be on my Twitter feed and I’ll track down the other ones elsewhere. (more…)

CMLL Martes: 2017-01-24

Adonis barely stays in one piece going out, so Maya mows him over

Recapped: 01/25/2017

What happened: Rey Bucanero and Stuka’s names got pulled out of the hat, so now they’re feuding. Rey seemed to be trying, but not enough for me to want to watch the build up trios match.

What was good: The fourth and fifth matches were good, though maybe I’ve subliminal put Tuesday matches on a curve now. The second match was an abomination.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

LU/Netflix, AAA/trademarks, CMLL (actual lucha libre matches), Lucha Memes VOD

CMLL tonight

How’s your week going? Here’s how Diamante Azul’s last couple have gone

01/22 (Sunday): Pierroth fouls Diamante Azul
01/23 (Monday): nothing happens to Diamante Azul (because Marco gets fouled instead)
01/27 (Friday): Pierroth unmasks Diamante Azul
01/29 (Sunday): nothing happens to Diamante Azul (because Caristico gets fouled instead)
01/30 (Monday): Rush fouls Diamante Azul and La Mascara unmasks him
01/31 (Tuesday): Pierroth unmasks Diamante Azul

That’s no good. That’s no good because it’s six straight matches with screwy endings. It’s not good because it’s a lot of matches with Pierroth. It’s not good because CMLL almost never carries feuds over from different days. Every feud is focused on one day of the week, one building, and often painfully ignored if those people meet on different shows. The only times where feuds carry over between shows is when CMLL is running short on time to build a match, and/or it’s supposed to be a big match on a big show. You’ve got to hope it means CMLL’s running a big show this month (maybe Diamante Azul is leaving again soon?), because the alternative is we’re seeing the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas main event being set up. CMLL running a tribute to one of their best matches by running one of their worst possible main events would be no good.

That’s the future. Tonight, it’s just more Diamante Azul versus Ingobernables trios. La Mascara, Pierroth and Rush take on Atlantis, Diamante Azul & Volador in a match which seems certain to end with a DQ or a foul. Mascara 2000 bounces back to the top of the card, as he teams with Cuatrero and Sanson against Angel del Oro, Marco Corleone and Maximo. The best match on the show will probably be the Titan versus Cavernario, a former welterweight feud reunited for one night. Los Revolucionarios team up again against Drone, Guerreor Maya Jr. and Rey Cometa in another match that should be good. Fuego, Pegasso and Soberano Jr. (back home in the second match) against Disturbio, Okumura and Virus. Electrico looks for another partner in Shockercito against Pequeno Nitro & Pequeno Olimpico in the opener.

The show airs at 8:30pm CT on Claro.

Lucha Memes VOD is up!

It ended going up yesterday afternoon for $3 USD. If your country is showing up blocked, tweet @maslucha and they may be able to fix it. The two matches being offered are Raymond Rowe/Rush and the Jack Evans/Rey Horuz atomicos. Early review are really positive about that 4v4 match and all over the place on Rowe/Rush. One of these days, when it’s less insane, we probably need to sit down and have a conversation about where Rush is in 2017, but it sounds like the crazy spotfest match may be worth the price of the purchase by itself.

Unlike the CMLL shows, this is a purchase and not a rental, so you’ll have as long you want to watch it and you’ll be able to go back to it later. This is good news for absolute fools who’ve been spending the last few days on Netflix and trademarks and not even on actually watching the wrestling (or even the Blue Demon telenovela.)

AAA/LU/Rebelion trademarks

The trademark situation is still weird. The former Pentagon Jr. clarified last night that his new name should be spelled “Penta Zero M“. That’s very slight different than “Penta 0m”, the name AAA trademarked in Mexico. Different enough to count? I don’t know, I’m not a lawyer. Penta Zero M also said his name registered. It’s still not on Mexico’s IMPI trademark system. It could be in the Induator author rights system, which has a section set up specifically for wrestlers. That database doesn’t appear to be searchabale online, or at least can’t find a way to search it after hours of looking. And I have no idea which one takes precedent- can Penta Zero M work under that name, but not market t-shirts under it since AAA has the trademark? I don’t know, I’m still not a lawyer.

Pro Wrestling Sheet found that Penta 0M had also been trademarked in the US. I was checking on this morning and noticed there’s also one for Rey Fenix, filed just this Monday. Of note, it’s not AAA itself who’s filed trademarked it, but Lucha Libre FMV, the Lucha Underground parent company. All of the AAA trademarks have been filed that way, so it may just be operating as a US shell for AAA, but it still puts Lucha Underground in the middle of this name issue. Lucha Libre FMV has already held the rights to “Pentagon Jr.” and “Fenix”, but has never stopped them from using those names on indie shows, while LU created characters like Prince Puma and King Cuerno haven’t been seen on indie shows. Just like the Mexico trademarks, this looks a nuisance filling where AAA will never directly make any money off those names but the exist solely to antagonize their former luchadors (with perhaps a blue sky goal of forcing them back into AAA, or convincing others not leave.)

Intermission of dumb to entertain me 

I’ve been spending too much time on the Mexico trademark site, but I had reason to go into again for another reason. Everyone’s friend Caristico did an interview where he revealed the awful “Mistico 2.0” plan was actually a secret plan. Liger Fever translated the interview, where Caristico claims he never planned on using the Mistico 2.0 name, but just used it as the introduction to fake AAA into trademarking it while he waited until the actual show to reveal the name he really trademarked.

This is a fantastic story! It’s completely a lie, but it’s a fantastic story. If you go look up “Mistico 2.0” in the trademark search, you’ll find that Caristico did trademark it himself, because he was actually going to use it until he got talked out of it. It was not a fakeout and AAA didn’t try get that one. The Carsitico name wasn’t revealed just before his first match either, but announced it to the press ahead of the show.

Anyway, don’t believe anyone. Which leads us into…

Netflix and Lucha Underground and basic communication skills

Will Lucha Underground be on Netflix on February 15? Court Bauer of MLW, working off info from inside Lucha Underground sources, said Yes. Justin Harvey, of the Masks, Mats and Mayhem Show, working off info from inside Lucha Underground sources, said LU is getting on Netflix, but is still working on getting the shows in Netflix standard and don’t know when they’ll be ready.  Netflix Canada says Yes! Lucha Underground officially says – uh, they say nothing at all.

What do I know? I know I would like to mute the word Netflix on Twitter. That’s not too helpful but it would feel so good.

“Justin Harvey, of the Masks, Mats and Mayhem Show” scans as some random dude with a podcast, one of a five million podcasts in the world, so I’d suspect most people will probably just go with what Court’s saying and be confused why I’m even bringing up another take here. What I can say is I talked to Justin a bit last time I was out at Lucha Underground, where he’s a regular in the crowd, and I saw the people he was talking with, and it gives me confidence that he and the rest of the podcast group are plugged in a bit. Check out a list of the guests they’ve had on their show – the executive producer, the two leader writers of the show among other – or realize they’re dudes appearing in the promos during episodes and it’s clear they’ve got connections. So does Court, and I’d guess they’re just with different people in the same organization who may not be communicating clearly with each other.

Justin was careful to say it’s not definitely 02/15, it’s more they’re not far enough along to know when they’ll get done. Everyone seems to be agreeing that deal to get Netflix on Lucha Underground is done or close to being done, and this is he said/he said argument over timing. Unless it takes some really extended time to get them prepped, they’ll probably be up long before we get to see an actual new episode.

Let’s throw out everything related to Netflix for a sec and focus on the Lucha Underground part a different way.  That banner, with 5.31.17 is still up on the Lucha El Rey Twitter. It’s been their since Wednesday. I assume it’s the date they’re back, because they’ve done the same bit with putting the date on social media every time they come back from a break. I can only assume that, because it’s Friday and there’s still no official press release announcing this. This is Lucha Underground and El Rey’s date – they’re not holding up waiting to sign some papers, they probably already have the next episode ready to air, they just have to announce the decision they’ve already made. And yet, nothing official at all, nothing but some art work that implies everything but doesn’t officially say anything. What in the world?

This is the same thing that’s going on with Netflix but this one’s totally in their control. They could’ve already confirmed announced this date that same day, that same hour, thru the Lucha Underground main Twitter account, or thru Dario’s account or thru someone one staff’s account or thru El Rey’s twitter account or Facebook or Instagram or YouTube or a generic press release on some page. They’ve done none of it. It’s not that hard to do, it’s probably easier than creating art work with a date on it. It would’ve been a really good thing to do! It’s still not done. Just like with Netflix, that date is going to come (whether it’s 05/31 or some other day) and the show is going to be on. That’s not the point. The point is it’s another missed chance to promotion your TV show, it’s a half effort bit where the full thing needs to be communicated.

Justin made a really good point about how we probably shouldn’t be getting our LU news from a guy on a podcast that may not have anything to do with Lucha Underground. The problem was Justin was, in that moment, a guy on a podcast giving us news about Lucha Underground. Why am I getting all my news about Lucha Underground thru podcasts? I’ve been hammering at this for months, Lucha Underground’s communication is insufficient to build their promotion. They can’t just appear one a week on Twitter to write a couple tweets and disappear for the rest of time and hope to (re)build buzz that way. They’re not going to sell t-shirts by mentioning it once a week in a 10 second advert for a show. There needs to be a more constant presence out there to keep people paying attention, and to channel that energy in a helpful direction. They’ve got to get better at this, and quick.

more unlikely CMLL wrestlers to ROH 

Ring of Honor announced Marcela and Amapola will debut in their promotion on their 04/01 Orlando show on Saturday. This was so weird that the first reaction was this was a fake poster. It is not. Their match is not announced. A tag or trios match with some of the ROH’s regular women (as part of their Women of Honor division) seems most likely

As a fan of this women for a long time, I’m happy they’re getting a trip to Orlando. They more than earned it, especially from when CMLL relaunched their women’s division until about 2013 or 14 or so when they were both in the argument for best female wrestler in the wrold. They’re not really those ladies any more, time catches up to us all. They’re still among the best CMLL women has to offer, so if it was just Ring of Honor wanted some Mexican women, they could’ve done worse. (They could’ve done better. Zeuxis is so obviously the right pick and has been suggested to ROH enough times that it glaring she wasn’t selected, like there must be some other reason we’re not privy to right now.)

It’s just strange that ROH wants CMLL women on their card for a big show. There’s a lot of guys who would’ve made a bigger impression, and names that might have sold tickets better. The ROH press release is transparently someone grabbing facts from wikipedia, written as if the person has never seen these two women in their life. That’ll also likely be true of most the people in the crowd that day. All unknown people are going to have an uphill battle getting over in front of a ROH crowd in 2017. The ROH crowd generally didn’t know who Dragon Lee was when he was he debuted. Even figuring the WrestleMania crowd will draw in more hardcore fans, there still will be very few people who know or care about these women being in this match unless ROH does a great job of hyping them (which they haven’t with anyone else.) This seems like a waste of two plane tickets for ROH – but, come to think of it, I don’t really care how ROH uses their money, so hooray, free trips to two women who killed it for years and are being recognized much later than they should’ve been.

ROH has other issues and this is not really a big one. Still weird, like everything with CMLL & ROH. Still happy for them.

upcoming shows

Sexy Star and Taya face off on 02/11 in New York.

Flamita is headed back to Dragon Gate in March.

Lucha Memes 02/19 in Coliseo Coacalco
1: Totem I & II vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako 
2: Ronnie Mendoza vs Hechicero
3: Diva Salvaje & Demasiado vs Baby Star & Black Metal

Penta is OFF the 03/04 show for Smash Wrestling in Toronto.

RIOT 03/04 in Arena LLF in Monterrey with “Show Me The Money”
1: Sammy Guevara vs Jack Evans
2: Dulce Kanela vs Larry Miranda
3: Los Kamikazes del Aire (Aramis, Iron Boy, Alas de Acero) vs Los Mismos de Siempre (Kamikzae, Kratoz, Erik Ortiz)
4: Los UnMexicans (Kaientai & Byron) vs Tony Rodriguez & TBA 
5: Low Rider vs Septimo Dragon

GALLI announced Aero Boy coming back on 03/12 and Penta el Zero M on 06/04.

Many familiar luchadors, including what looks to be Extreme Tiger, Fenix, Aeroboy, Violento Jack and Rey Horuz, are heedad to Puerto Rico on 03/18. Lluvia’s pictured, which is notable. She hasn’t been in CMLL since November 25. She’s battle knee problems (losing most of 2012 and 2013 due to them), so maybe that’s what’s going on and she’ll back around in March.

Rey Fenix is announced CZW’s 04/01 Battle of the Best tournament in the Orlando area.

Other Stuff

Blue Demon Jr. refused to talk about the TV series when asked about it.It could be a situation where he’s not legally allowed to say anything negative about it due to the name rights, so he’s just refusing to talk about it. In his own life, he hopes to make another move and write an autobiography, and won’t be back in the ring until the February Crash show.

The latest Fuego en el Ring podcast is up.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-01-23 

Espiritu splash to the floor

Recapped: 01/24/2017

What happened: Valiente wore a shirt and pants. Times have changed! Also La Mascara gave Marco a lame looking foul to start a feud.

What was good: Nothing. I wanted to like the tercera but it never quite got there. The first three matches all dragged. I had been warned off the top matches.

I don’t think there’s a lot to get out of TGR or Mascara 2000 matches unless they’re surrounded by a lot of motivated and interesting. I’m going to try to do better at skipping matches which don’t warrant a review. My time is better served elsewhere.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel (more…)

lucha TV preview for weekend of February 3rd

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This is a two episode IWRG week! I’ll probably miss one of them somehow.

AAA will finish up Guerra de Titanes, which probably means tag matches and not those singles matches. Unless they can edit out all of Garza’s offense from his match with Fantasma, I guess. It would be cool to see them go over the top with it.

Lucha Retro is two hours early this week, but probably still a repeat. I’m giving it two more weeks.

Elite should be interesting. In real time, they aired reruns a week before switching over the all-indie, no-CMLL shows. They could skip around randomly.


2005 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

Last week, I added another year set of 2005 lineups I could find from El Siglo de Torreon. I had a handful of these in there already, and added about ~250 more. I’ve added the info to the wiki where possible. I now have more lineups for Arena Olimpico Laguna, a venue that doesn’t get talked about outside of it’s local area, than UWA/CMLL stronghold Arena Puebla. (An accessible Puebla newspaper archive would be helpful to fix this.)

Those lineups are in the luchadb. I haven’t done the export this time because lack of interest, but I can whip one up if people want them in a different format than I have here. You can use the data however you want, though I’d appreciate you giving me and any sources credit when possible.

I’m also playing with an idea of doing some more through caching of the database, which might speed up the match finder and other processes. If things are working weird, I may get around to fixing it. Who’s to say?

In addition the results, I’ve got the usual links to articles that caught my interest below the fold. Remember, these are all 2006 stories, not current ones.


AAA files for ex-AAA trademarks, attempts to edit Daga out from TV

IWRG (WED) 02/01/2017 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Atomic Star & Enigma b Fireman & Geo
Fireman replaced Fly Star. First match for Geo & Enigma in summer.
2) Araña de Plata & Keiser Dragón b Odín & Shadow Boy
Shadow Boy’s partner is an unnamed novato
3) Alfa, Aramis, Omega DQ Adrenalina, Avisman, Diablo Jr.
Diablo Jr. fouled Aramis. Avisman’s first match here since last August.
4) Hip Hop Man, Mosca (Argentina), Pibe Alfajor b Black Dragón, Dragón Fly, Pantera I
Mosca sneaked in a foul on Dragon Fly. Pantera I replaced Freelance.
5) Chicano, Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible b Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Eterno
Eterno replaced Relampago (injury), which allowed him to feud with Demonio Infernal. Eterno cheated to beat Demonio Infernal.

The Gladiatores will probably have the mystery novato’s name. Edit: they did! Eterno seems back to give previous novato Demonio Infernal a big feud, which is a better way of using veterans than usual. They have a singles match on Sunday

There’s not much news except AAA news. It’s not positive news! You may want to skip if that’s now if you don’t want negative stuff.

Last Tuesday, the same day as the Psycho/Wagner press conference at Arena Ciudad de Mexico, AAA filed trademarks on the names “PENTA 0M” and “FÉNIX EL REY”. They’ve previously trademarked “CERO MIEDO”, “FÉNIX EL REY” and “REY FÉNIX”, as well as the original Fenix and Pentagon Jr. names. (The name “Penta El 0M” name is not trademarked. It’s hard to link directly to this, but you can go here and punch in those names; make sure to include accents.) The lawyer at that press conference was an intellectual property lawyer, which was a pretty good clue of what else AAA was up to that day, and another lawyer from that firm has their name on the trademark applications. These trademarks are not listed as approved, just as “nominated” (requested), so it’s possible they can be fought or rejected. If approved, AAA could force those guys to stop using those names, but the process usually takes a long time and all AAA can do is make threats at the moment.

This does not surprise me at all, this is simply what AAA does when someone leaves and they’re angry about it. It seems like poor behavior – trying to own the names they used in AAA seems fair enough, trying to own new deriviations is murky at best and probably meant more to be a nuisance than any legal standpoint. The bigger surprise is there’s not applications filed by Penta El 0M, Fenix el Rey and/or their representatives. This is AAA’s move, this is always AAA’s move, and so I would’ve guessed the Rebelion guys would’ve been ready for it. I’m not a trademark lawyer and I’m definitely not a Mexican trademark lawyer, please do not use me as advice on what to do.

La Rebelión is not trademarked. Garza Jr. trademarked his own name. Daga’s name is curiously not trademarked; he used it before AAA, but that hasn’t stopped AAA from at least attempting to trademark for others. There are no trademarks currently listed in the US for those names, though that may be in progress.

I caught up with AAA TV last night. A recap will turn up someday, but the one thing you need to know is there’s little chance Pentagon/Mundo or Fantasma/Garza will ever be aired. They aired the cage match as this week’s main event, with some video and audio edits. Daga is listed in the match lineup screen, but the bit where he added himself to the match is edited out completely. Later, when Daga is escaping the cage, they briefly cut to a shot of Angelico walking to the back while Jesus Zuñiga talks about Angelico instead of Daga escaping. It’s so bad that it seems like it might be a normal AAA production error, but the audio definitely is not. AAA’s commentary is generally done live at the shows, but the next couple of minutes are all Jesus Zuñiga doing new audio from a studio, doing his best not to acknowledge Daga as he tries to stop Australian Suicide from interfering. This is all kind of mitigated by Arturo Rivera marking out for Daga early on and screaming “Daga” loudly a few times, but they tried with the rest. AAA clearly are very upset about this situation.

It’ll be much easier just not to air the matches with the other two guys, and just only the opening mixed tag and the semimain trios match with Wagner & Psycho this week. I’m hoping we get a classic match and not just the same half hour Wagner/Psycho stuff from this past week as filler, though I imagine that’ll be it. Both Mundo/Pentagon and Garza/Fantasma have fan cams on YouTube if you really want to see them.

You won’t be seeing Drago in New York, at least on the Tier 1 Wrestling show on 02/19. He will now be replaced by both Matt Cross and Rey Horuz, which should still be good. It’s not said why Drago is off the show. I don’t see him on an AAA show in Mexico right now, though there’s enough shuffling that it’s possible. Drago (and probably AAA) would seem to make more off US bookings right now than Mexico ones. It’s possible, though not confirmed, that AAA is forcing promoters to pick between their guys and La Rebelion wrestlers since Pentagon is also booked for that show. I guess we find out if that happens with other shows.

02/18 in Tijuana has a main event is Texano & Joe Lider vs Dr. Wagner & Pagano vs Monster & Murder Clown. Taya is in the semimain; it would be her first non-TV AAA show since about August, since she relocated to the US. Tijuana is an easier trip from LA than, like, San Luis Potosi would be so maybe that’s it.

WXW announced Pentagon, Vampiro (not wrestling?), Drago, Angelico, and Fenix for their 03/13 show.

Pentagon Jr. faces Davey Richards on 04/07 in Seattle. That one made me think of Arturo Rivera saying those guys would be out of work in a month and a half. April is a lot farther away than a month in a half!

Roshfrans is teasing a surprise deal with AAA & Record. It might have with all those photos they were shooting a while back. It also could be something to do with a national talent search Leo Riano mentions in his column. AAA could definitely use some new people, but they could really more use it in the middle and the top, and past talent searches usually have only added people at the bottom. It’s another thing if it’s just supposed to be part of a marketing campaign.

Shocker broke his jaw. He must’ve broke it over the weekend, and is out of action for the time being.

Lucha Memes has been announcing matches for their 02/19 Coacalco show.

They’ve also mentioned two title matches will take place on the show.

Daniel Tibbets, GM of El Rey, was on a panel of niche (or small) networks, talking about how they can remain viable in cable when money is starting to shift elsewhere. Tibbets is quoted as saying you can find other revenue streams as long as you have a “engaged, niche audience.” Judging from the many tweets asking Netflix UK, Netflix Latin America and other Netflix affiliates about Lucha Underground, they may have that.

There’s still no official news from Lucha Underground about Netflix or anything else. Netflix Canada confirmed they’d have the show on the 15th and people who work for LU say it’s coming on the 02/15, but there’s no press release about it or the return date. There really should’ve been one already, but maybe they’re got a lot of things getting done at the same time. Season 2 (and only Season 2) of the series is on Amazon US right now. It’s in the same style as iTunes, not an addition to their own Netflix like service. I looked around at other similar services and didn’t see anything.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report . Alfredo was also on the latest edition of The Winter Palace.

Mas Por Mas has another series of quick interviews with people who work in Arena Mexico. Bobby Z mentions he was training with Santos Laguneros but preferred lucha.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21 

no cameraman is safe from Dinastia

Recapped: 01/25/2017

What happened: Hijo del Tirantes helped OGT again. Lady Shani pinned Dinastia, which I think means she’s owed a minis title match. (Maybe not, but it is her second win in a row.)

What was good: The first two matches were perfectly acceptable TV matches, no problem to watch even if they might not make a year end bit. The main event was the usual Hijo del Tirantes show and you already know how you feel about that by now.

Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel, but I hadn’t gotten to put those links in the database so you’re stuck with mine for this post (more…)

2016 watch later catch up, part 12 of ∞

Flamita is amazing

in this post

  • Estrellita, Marcela, Sanely vs Amapola, La Jarochita, La Metálica, Arena México, 09/16/2016
  • Ángel de Oro, The Panther, Titán vs Hechicero, Puma, Tiger, Arena Coliseo, 09/17/2016 
  • Magnus, Marvel, Robin vs El Coyote, Grako, Nitro, Arena Coliseo, 09/24/2016 
  • Trauma I & Trauma II vs Puma (CMLL) & Tiger, Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 06/24/2016 
  • El Bandido & Volador Jr. vs Flamita & Fly Warrior, Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 06/24/2016 
  • Dark Ozz & Low Rider vs Fénix (AAA) & Máscarita Dorada, Gran Plaza, Fort Worth, Texas, 08/06/2016 

This started out as “main CMLL stuff I wanted to cross off my list, even if it wasn’t going to be MOTYC”, with the idea idea I’d watch the full 09/17 show I had attended live to rate it. After watching the one match I liked the best and not liking it as much on TV, I abadoneded that idea and just worked thru a couple of other matches.

Down to just four matches after. Might look around for a couple more things to round up the list, but this is about done.


Lucha Underground on Netflix 02/15, new episodes 05/31, CMLL results, Alberto


CMLL (TUE) 01/31/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Plantilla Deportiva, SuperLuchas]
1) Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial DQ El Coyote & Grako LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3, the last when Coyote unmasked Sangre Imperial
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca b Flyer, Robin, Sensei LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Tritón b Raziel [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Triton won with the 450 splash
4) La Jarochita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b La Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicas took 1/3
5) Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger b Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Casas family took 2/3. Money thrown in.
6) Carístico, Stuka Jr., Valiente DQ Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Bucanero unmasked Stuka again for the DQ.

CultIcon says Panther/Casas and Triton/Raziel are the matches to watch, and everything else is worth avoiding.

Lucha Underground Season 3 will return on May 31st. Lucha Underground posted the date on it’s social media. A press release is probably coming soon. The season, barring anything also weird happening, will run until October 18th. I’d suspect that means the other new programming for El Rey is expected to be ready around that time. May 31st is a long way away, but pretty good considering where summer 2017 could’ve turned out.

In the meantime, El Rey will continue to air repeats in the meantime. They’ll be airing 19 weeks of repeats, which is exactly how many new episodes they aired. That might be how they figured out the length of the break. If we really want to overextend that thought out to guess at the future: there’s 21 episodes left in the season, and a 21 week break after would put Season 4 starting on March 14th, 2018. That’s a real long shot, but it does kind of fit with December or January tapings.

Court Bauer, on MLW Radio, says Lucha Underground will be coming to Netflix on February 15th. Seasons 1 and 2 will be made available for “North America and parts of South America”, with options for future seasons. The show will continue to air first on El Rey. The discussion starts about 49 minutes in.

It’s not said which exact countries are included. Mexico wasn’t named checked and would be a big deal. (Mexico is part of North America on on a map, but usually not for distribution.) It would not seem to include the UK or any other European market. Netflix usually adds full seasons at a time, Season 3 normally wouldn’t be added until some period of time after the final. I was surprised by the solidness of this news; there’s a cottage industry of websites that track what’s coming to Netflix in the next month, and none of them have been mentioning Lucha Underground. Bauer usually knows what he’s talking about there. Perhaps it’s a recent deal or LU is small enough to go unnoticed in those. LU being on Netflix is nice for people who haven’t checked out the show and want to marathon, but it’s bigger positive message for the state of show. A Netflix deal isn’t likely to pay for S4 itself, but it’s a sign of forward progress which hasn’t been seen in many months.

Lucha Underground repeats tonight are “Trios Champions” and “Fight to the Death” (Fenix/Mil Muertes death match). If you’re on Spectrum, you probably won’t be able to see either of them tonight (or Blue Demon). Univision pulled off all it’s affiliated channels (including Unimas & El Rey) last night in a rate dispute. El Rey is a small fish in the bigger issue. I can’t imagine this will go too long with Univision being involved, that’s too many viewers displaced to stay that way. In the meantime, at least those viewers aren’t missing new episodes.

Solowrestling has a good 25 minute (English language) interview with Ricochet about a variety of topics. Of note to Lucha Underground, Ricochet says he’s no longer under contract, but under a no-compete until Season 3 finishes airing (which comes up in the context of him appearing in ROH this year. He’d like to if it was possible.) Ricochet earlier says anything is an option, and “I know where I want to go, and I know what I need to be to get there.” It sounds like he’s trying to get himself in position for the best WWE deal possible when it becomes open to him again. There’s nothing ruling him out out from working a LU live shows, if such a thing were to exist, but he seems highly unlikely to sign anything long (or even short) term that’ll keep him from getting where he wants to go.

+LuchaTV’s latest podcast had Pirata Morgan & Hijo del Fantasma. Pirata was his usual mean old man self, claiming he’s blackballed from CMLL because he used to beat up the guys who are now in charge of booking, those guys got their revenge with how they booked him and others and he can’t stand to take orders from them. I’d suggest he isn’t being used because he’s not very good at this point in his career, but Mascara 2000 is in main events every week so that can’t be it.

The Fantasma interview is more relevant to the Lucha Underground talk today. He wasn’t on any of the Season 3 Part 1 episodes. Fatnasma seemed to be having problems with AAA & LU during that period, but also had back surgery last year and back surgery isn’t something you do just to sit out – it wasn’t clear how much each issue contributed to him Fantasma not being around.  Fantasma revealed he renegotiated his deal with LU last year, and (now?) has a legal duty to AAA/LU, which he feels the other guys should’ve honored as well. There’s initial LU deals were said to be not good terms for the wrestlers who signed them; I wonder if Fantasma questioned those terms as a way of trying to get out of the deal, and both sides eventually reached a fairer agreement. AAA & LU don’t seem to redo those deals on their own.

The podcast also explains why one match got changed on the Lucha Memes show: Ronnie Mendoza was late getting to Arena Naucalpan due to an accident on the highway, so Laredo (wrestling sick) got moved to the match with Arez instead and Ronnie was in a three way. The VOD deal for that show was supposed to be up by yesterday, but has yet to turn up as far as of when I’m writing about this. I’m still not sure which of those two matches will be part of the package.

Alberto el Patron mentioned he’d be part of a new promotion, Distromania, on May 21st. He hypes ex-WWE wrestlers and his brother-in-laws the UK Hooligans for the show. Like the Octagon “Legado Dragon” show last weekend, this appears to be a Tinieblas Jr.’s FULL show underneath the surface, with Octagon/Alberto’s name on top (and maybe responsible for bringing in some of the top names.) The Legado Dragon show seems like it drew well, so maybe Tinieblas has found a business model in vanity promotions.

REINA mentions Keira winning the CMLL-REINA International Junior championship. No trip to Japan to defend the title is mentioned quite yet, but the photo of Keira with the belt and her small child is cute.

Aerostar took a photo of a full Arena Aficion last night, where there was an AAA house show last night. That’s more impressive given that arena seems like a hard place to draw.

Today in random AAA controversies which will be quickly forgotten: Psycho Clown got angry with a reporter asking him questions about Dr. Wagner. (I didn’t even watch the clip, but it’s interesting to see Adictos al Deportes suddenly pop back to life with a few bad news for AAA articles.) Meanwhile, Arturo Rivera is betting La Rebelion will last “a month and a half” without TV before people lose interest in them. He also hints someone (Garza Jr.) used the plane ticket AAA gave him for the Toluca show to instead of work the Arena San Juan show. Garza Jr. posted a photo of the plane ticket he bought himself in the comments. Alfredo found all of this.

Sorpresa es Lucha returns to talk about the exit from AAA and the Crash show with TKD.

CMLL has a short bio of Villano III, prior to him being honored on March 17th.

Pro Wrestling Super Blog has the top 10 lucha matches of January. The top two matches are good ones that have hardly been mentioned here.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.


CMLL (TUE) 02/07/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Oro Jr., Pegasso, Starman vs Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Metálico
3) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Sagrado, Skándalo, Virus
4) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol vs Hechicero, Misterioso Jr., Vangellys
5) Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero
6) Carístico, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Rey Bucanero tried really hard in his last two singles matches so maybe this will work. It’s a lot of OK matches. Second match has the first Starman match here in October. He was on the Toryumon show this weekend. Maybe he’s been gone with an injury that’s finally healed?

CMLL (TUE) 02/07/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Javier Cruz Jr. & Metatrón vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Explosivo, Magia Blanca, Robin vs Difunto, El Coyote, Grako
3) Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr., Tritón vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
4) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © vs Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán [MEX TRIOS]
9th defense

Someone else getting a trios title chance before the Casas family is not a big surprise. I’d be fine with a title change – Puma & Tiger are Angel de Oro’s best opponents and Atlantis & Titan would make for a good trios title match. The Diamante/Pierroth feud comes here and the tercera should be fun as well, though it probably won’t have Stuka.

I didn’t pick up on it Sunday, but Difunto is a new name here (unless it’s the old Monterrey guy making an unlikely move.)