2016 watch later catch up, part 10 of ∞

Rey Mysterio Jr. is still good

Matches reviewed in this one

  • Sammy Guevara vs Syrus vs Ronnie Mendoza, Gran Plaza, Fort Worth, Texas, 08/06/2016 
  • Ryan Kidd vs Puma KingAeroboy [OWA US], 2100 Park Blvd, San Diego, California, 11/19/2016 
  • Teelo vs RafyLeoMike, Salón Citlalli, Ecatepec, Estado de México, 09/04/2016 
  • Máscara Dorada vs Extreme Tiger [falls count anywhere], Arena Naucalpan, 03/06/2016 
  • Black Terry vs Judas el Traidor in a super libre match, Arena Naucalpan, 08/10/2016 
  • Brian Cage & Sammy Guevara vs Laredo Kid & Rey Mysterio Jr., Brownsville Sports Park, Brownsville, Texas, 11/05/2016 

More random matches to get thru 2016, as we’re down to the matches I kind of wanted to see and can actually find easily. A huge chunk of the remaining stuff is Lucha Memes where I have to decide if I’m going to watch in part or not at all. Didn’t even put the Christmas day show on the list.

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CMLL’s big Three King’s Day card preview, Fantasma, Laredo, Chairo, Riot


Tonight’s CMLL show is the strangest and best looking show in memory. It’s completely out of the ordinary for CMLL, looking more like a US indie lineup. They’re breaking from the rigid “five tag matches and maybe one singles match” to offer a show with three single matches and other best of 2016 rematches.

The show opens with a women’s trios match, which pulls in the two biggest women’s matches from last year. Zeuxis and Vaquerita are on opposite sides after their mask match. So are Dalys & Marcela, who spent the year feuding over the main women’s title. Amapola and Estrellita round out the match, and it’s one of the better women’s trios CMLL can put together.

Rey Cometa being in the second match in the card isn’t that surprising, but getting to see him face Cavernario in a singles match is pretty special. This is a rematch of the best of 2016 (title match and hair match) and 2014 (hair). We all mocked CMLL for forgetting this feud happened around the Universal tournament, and I’m pretty glad they remembered it this time.

The third match is Negro Casas, Puma King, Tiger Casas and Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., and The Panther. Those two teams did meet in the recent Torneo Dinastia, but it’s really more a best of 2014. The Panther kids debuted right into a feud with Tiger & Puma, they’ve had hot matches ever since then. This should be no different. The preview dutiful brings up the owed trios title shot from that match and says it’ll be happening “soon.” Not until Ephesto gets back from Japan, at least.

Volador and Mephisto are in the fourth match, which seems weird after a year of Volador big main events, but it’s a weird card. They’re the second singles rematch, following up on a November title match between them – or maybe their FantasticaMania match, or maybe their other untelevised matches. They’ve had a lot of matches, with Volador winning the last six of them. I have a memory block where I can’t seem to remember Mephisto is not on the FantasticaMania tour; he just always is, this year is a weird exception. It’s most likely CMLL bring random, but if you’re looking for a reason to expect the upset, maybe Mephisto is doing something the next few weeks and gets a win over Volador in a non-title match to set it up.

The fifth match, La Mascara & Rush versus Maximo & Marco Corleone, is a rematch of a match that didn’t exactly happen. That was the feud from this spring, leading to the mostly forgotten great Maximo/Rush match, but CMLL never got around to doing the exact 2v2 match in Arena Mexico because CMLL’s structure is too rigid to allow such a thing. (It did eventually get booked in Oaxaca.) That’s how odd this card is: CMLL is booking a throwback match now when they couldn’t bring themselves to book it during the feud.

Valiente faces Ultimo Guerrero in the semimain. Those two met many times for Ultimo Guerrero’s NWA Middleweight championship (06/17, 10/01, 12/12 made air) and in Valiente’s Universal Championship tournament win, but it’s most directly a rematch of the Leyenda de Azul final.

It’s only the main event that doesn’t exactly fit the formula: Atlantis, Caristico & Mistico versus Euforia, Gran Guerrero & Niebla Roja don’t have any special history, but should still be a positive match given the people involved.

The matches, all the match, should be good on this card. A lot of them have a chance to be great if they get enough time. Time is the big question on the show: this would stretch well past 11pm if all the matches were allowed to go their “normal” length. Will CMLL just have really short falls to fit everything in? Will matches go just one fall? CMLL hasn’t said anything, which ordinary would mean they’re sticking with the usual rules. Everything else about this show is out of the ordinary, so who knows.

Today is Three King’s Day in Mexico, a major children’s holiday where children get even more gifts. There’s quite a few kid’s focused lucha libre shows tonight and this weekend – Cibernetico and familiar Elite wrestlers have one in Queretaro, Super Muneco is the headliner in Tijuana for that reason. Most of them have cheap or free tickets in hopes to draw in kids and their parents. It’s no different for CMLL. Their poster says children’s tickets are 10 pesos ($0.47 USD) for the 11th row and back, but their preview says they’re also just giving away children’s if purchased with an adult ticket in the”Preferente” section and beyond. That’s the first elevated section, in front of the fences.

Tickets are currently moving well in the normal priced ring side ticket area, and the kid’s tickets should produce strong walkup before the shows. This show is the best CMLL has to offer without putting a major mask on the line, and they’re giving away tickets to get people to come. The gate’s not going to be anything huge, but the turnout should be. CMLL’s got to draw over 10K for this show easily, or there’s some big questions to be asked. (And if they do draw well with this setup, does that affect how they run the rest of the year? That’s the other big question for tonight.)

CultIcon also previews today’s show. Today’s show will air on ClaroSports and NJPW World (Japan only, though their listing is all messed up) at 8:30pm.

The Nueva Generacion Dinamitas kept the Occidente Trios titles in Arandas, Jalisco on Wednesday. On his (locked) Instagram, Forastero mentioned he suffered ligament damage in the match. No world on the severity or when we’ll see him again.

From about a week ago, Vice Mexico has an interview with CMLL luchadors before and after they go to the ring. Caristico has a great Caristico story.

Hijo del Fantasma said his title match at Guerra de Titanes is the first step to earning a spot at TripleMania. Hijo del Fantasma having a singles match at TripleMania feels like a good barometer to determining if the show is going to be good. A Fantasma 1v1 alone will not make a card, but Fantasma multiman match would suggest a whole bunch of exciting luchadors have been bundled into one match to create space for a not as good match. Speaking of not as good matches, Fantasma also mentions Garza Jr. needs to wrestle more like himself and not Hector Garza.

It’s worth noting Guerra de Titanes, on Friday on 01/20, will be running against CMLL’s Friday night show without half their stars. That sets up well for AAA.

Laredo Kid is apparently debuting in Evolve on 01/28. It’s the second of two shows in San Antonio. Laredo looked great in a lot of places in 2016. His work in AIW probably got him noticed for this, but he keeps popping up in fun matches as I catch up the minor stuff. Evolve/WWN have stayed away from using luchadors due to bad experiences. If this was Pentagon or Fenix, it’s be Evolve getting past that because those guys are draws. With Laredo, it’s got to be people saying positive things on his behalf, though the biggest factor is probably just they’re in Texas for the Rumble and Laredo is close enough that they can just pay him to drive in. Still, I hope he does well, in and out of the ring, and helps prop the door open for others to come thru.

Lucha Memes Chairo 8 on 01/29 in Arena Naucalpan
1: Hechicero vs Dr. Cerbero
2: Silueta (c) vs Keira [REINA IJ]

To be honest, when Lucha Memes said “we’re having a CMLL title match!”, this was not among my first dozen guesses. This is probably the most obscure CMLL title: the last Mexico defense was September 2015 (also against Keira) and it hasn’t been defended on TV since 2014. Still, that’s not really a problem, both women are good and so should be the match. Keira didn’t get lots of high profile matches in 2016, but imagine if she had actually stuck with AAA instead and spent the year losing repeatedly to the Apaches or in nothing opening matches instead. A bullet dodged.

Still can’t get over that Hechicero is going to main event two (likely to be) sold out shows in 8 days. We need to get this one on NJPW World too.

RIOT returns on 03/04 in Arena LLF in Monterrey with “Show Me The Money”
1: Sammy Guevara vs Jack Evans – that’s going to be a thing.

TJ Hawke put together his best matches of ROH 2016, and Angel de Oro versus Kamaitachi ranks 6. The four way match from that weekend is in the top 15. Kamaitachi versus Dragon Lee is 4th. I think Kamaitachi might be really good.

Raizel told Plantilla Deportiva that he wants a title shot against Rey Cometa. I am for that idea.

AyTV has recent quick interview with “Dron“, Ripper, Okumura and Sangre Imperial.


indy (FRI) 02/17/2017 Deportivo Colon, Xalapa, Veracruz
1) Crimen, Pánico, Payaso Asesino vs Fantasma del Espacio, Jaguar, Peligro
2) Freelance, Mike Segura, Relámpago vs Arez, Belial, Impulso
3) Flamita, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras vs Corsario De Fuego, Poseidón, Triple X Jr.
4) Black Terry & Solar I vs Negro Navarro & Satánico
5) Rey Fénix (LU) & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs El Patrón Alberto & Xtreme Tiger

Unlikely to be taped unless +Lucha sends someone, but notable given all the names involved. The last group to use this venue was AAA for TV, and that’s an AAA TV main event in a better universe.

For what it’s worth, Leo Riano defended Alberto in his column this week, telling a story of what happened in Alberto’s latest incident that’s different from what the actual local reports had. (It’s not worth writing about, except to remember Riano does a lot of spinning in his column.)  He also says last week’s Arena Mexico show was 75% full, which did not appear to be the case.

2017 FantasticaMania lineup revealed


Hooray! Quick takes on the lineups:

CMLL NJPW (FRI) 01/13/2017 EDION Arena Osaka, Osaka, Japan
1) Henare & Soberano Jr. vs Jado & Raziel
2) Jushin Liger, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask vs Ephesto, Gedo, Okumura
3) Blue Panther Jr. & David Finlay vs EVIL & Sanada
4) Dragón Lee & Titán vs Bushi & Hiromu Takahashi
5) Kushida, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Euforia, Último Guerrero
6) Atlantis & Máscara Don vs Naito & Rush
7) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Ryusuke Taguchi, Máximo Sexy vs Hechicero, Okada, Will Ospreay

This show opening event is the sole taping understood to be airing exclusive on SamuraiTV (and may surface about a week later.) It’s the first of two shows to have Lee/Titan vs Bushi/Takahashi, though this is probably build for the second.

Will Ospreay being included on this tour is a surprise. They haven’t used non-Mexican fly-ins for these shows in the recent past. It’s not a clear build to a match, since Ospreay is just flying out tags. The heavyweight ranks of CHAOS (Yano, Ishii, Yoshi-Hashi) aren’t around, so maybe he was pulled in as a really good fill-in.

Mascara Don is Manabu Nakanishi’s mask persona, which he’s used on this tour in previous years.

Raziel is working against Soberano most of the tour. In some other parallel universe, Raziel might be Jado. Raziel, Soberano, Blue Panther Jr. and Ephesto are limited to tags the entire tour.

CMLL NJPW (SAT) 01/14/2017 Ehime World Trade Center, Ehime, Japan
1) Henare & Jushin Liger vs Ephesto & Jado
2) David Finlay & Soberano Jr. vs Gedo & Raziel
3) Blue Panther Jr., Ryusuke Taguchi, Tiger Mask vs Bushi, EVIL, Sanada
4) Dragón Lee & Stuka Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario & Okumura
5) Máximo Sexy & Volador Jr. vs Hechicero & Último Guerrero
6) Atlantis, Máscara Don, Titán vs Hiromu Tanahashi, Naito, Rush
7) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kushida, Mistico vs Euforia, Okada, Will Ospreay

The first of three untelevised shows. The 4th and 5th matches are the ones I’ll miss the most, though the main event is no slouch.

Jushin Liger is seven months older than old man Ephesto.

CMLL NJPW (SUN) 01/15/2017 KBS Hall, Kyoto, Japan
1) Blue Panther Jr. & Henare vs Ephesto & Raziel
2) Jushin Liger & Stuka Jr. vs Jado & Okumura
3) Kushida, Ryusuke Taguchi, Titán vs Bushi, Hiromu Takahashi, Sanada
4) Dragón Lee & Tiger Mask vs Bárbaro Cavernario & Gedo
5) Máximo Sexy & Mistico vs Euforia & Hechicero
6) Atlantis, Máscara Don, Soberano Jr. vs EVIL, Naito, Rush
7) David Finlay, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Volador Jr. vs Okada, Último Guerrero, Will Ospreay

Main event looks fun here as well. Henare is a heavyweight rookie who will be taking the loss in every match he’s in.

CMLL NJPW (MON) 01/16/2017 Nagoya International Conference Hall, Nagoya, Japan
1) Henare, Jushin Liger, Tiger Mask vs Gedo, Jado, Raziel
2) David Finlay & Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto & Okumura
3) Ryusuke Taguchi & Soberano Jr. vs Bushi & Sanada
4) Blue Panther Jr. & Máscara Don vs EVIL & Naito
5) Máximo Sexy, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Hechicero, Último Guerrero
6) Atlantis & Titán vs Hiromu Takahashi & Rush
7) Dragón Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kushida vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Okada, Will Ospreay

This is the additional date that was added late. Another great looking main event that we won’t get to see.

I wish I could bet on the outcome of the third match. It doesn’t look good for the tecnicos at all.

CMLL NJPW (FRI) 01/20/2017 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan
1) Blue Panther Jr. & Henare vs Ephesto & Will Ospreay
2) Jushin Liger, Soberano Jr., Tiger Mask vs Gedo, Jado, Raziel
3) Máximo Sexy & Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero & Okumura
4) Atlantis, David Finlay, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kushida, Ryusuke Taguchi vs Bushi, EVIL, Naito, Rush, Sanada
5) Juice Robinson, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Okada, Último Guerrero
6) Titán vs Hiromu Takahashi
7) Dragón Lee © vs Bárbaro Cavernario [CMLL SL]
4th defense

This is the meat of it. The last three shows will air live on NJPW World, though the Friday and Saturday shows will have no commentary. All Korakuen Hall shows are listed as starting at 5:30pm local, which is 2:30AM 3:30AM Central Time.

The top two matches could be outstanding. Cavernario and Dragon Lee go back to their En Busca de un Idolo year, when Barbaro won both of their matches. They haven’t had a big feud Arena Mexico feud since, but Dragon Lee’s beaten him twice since the tournament, including a match in Guadalajara for this same title back in March (aired locally, but never turned up.)

We were begging for CMLL to put Kamaitachi against more people on the CMLL roster, and we finally get it with him taking on Titan. The outcome of both these matches seems obvious, but this a huge match for Titan regardless of the result. Titan’s stuck in the role as good but replacable CMLL junior in NJPW’s eyes, and could use a breakout match if he wants to advance past that role.

The rest of this card isn’t a slouch. The 10 man tag is the annual Black Cat tribute match. The third match is building to singles matches on the next show.

CMLL NJPW (SAT) 01/21/2017 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan
1) Blue Panther Jr., Henare, Jushin Liger, Tiger Mask vs Ephesto, Gedo, Jado, Raziel
2) Stuka Jr. vs Okumura
3) Kushida, Ryusuke Taguchi, Soberano Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Okada, Will Ospreay
4) David Finlay, Dragón Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson, Titán vs Bushi, EVIL, Hiromu Takahashi, Naito, Sanada
5) Mistico & Volador Jr. vs Euforia & Último Guerrero
6) Atlantis vs Rush
7) Máximo Sexy © vs Hechicero [CMLL HEAVY]
9th defense

I couldn’t quite figure out which NJPW guy they’d allow Maximo to beat in a title defense, and that’s because it turned out to be a non-NJPW guy. Hechicero goes from being in the extra undercard rudo role Ephesto & Raziel are on this tour to main eventing a show. (He’ll be main eventing the slightly bigger Arena Naucalpan 8 days later. What a crazy time.) Truth be told, he’s main eventing here because he’s not a big name, and so they can afford to feed him to Maximo, but it’s still amazing. Hechicero is beloved in lucha libre circles and not really considered that much outside of them, and this could change that. Maximo can find another gear in big matches and this will be one of the biggest in both men’s careers. A slight improvement over Mascara 2000, at least.

Atlantis versus Rush will be something else entirely. The old man is going to have a long night. This will be the first real match between them: they ran into each other in 2012 Unviersal tournament with Rush winning, but this will go a lot longer than that. This would be a meaningful win for Rush.

Fifth match is Sky Team versus the Guerreros without the least important people on both teams. That’s probably good. Third match looks like a delight, though Okada’s going to need to learn some flips to keep up.

Okumura gets a singles match because of course he does.

CMLL NJPW (SUN) 01/22/2017 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan
1) Blue Panther Jr., Henare, Soberano Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Gedo, Jado
2) Jushin Liger, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask vs Hechicero, Okumura, Raziel
3) Dragón Lee & Titán vs Bushi & Hiromu Takahashi
4) Juice Robinson, Máximo Sexy, Ryusuke Taguchi vs Ephesto, Okada, Will Ospreay
5) Atlantis, David Finlay, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kushida vs EVIL, Naito, Rush, Sanada
6) Mistico vs Euforia
7) Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero

The final show is – good, but kind of underwhelming? Maybe too similar to the formula from past years and hurt by my own expectations. Dragon Lee/Takahashi is happening, but probably not until February. Volador/Kushida doesn’t appear to be in the card at all despite the teases. There’s not even a Never Trios title defense, despite Nakanishi working some shows on this tour. (Maybe card is subject to hcange; this feels short one big match compared to previous years.)

Instead, we get Volador versus Ultimo Guerrero. It sets up for the usual Volador showcase to end the tour, and neither man’s title being on the line muddies up the outcome a bit. Mistico versus Euforia is the Mistico showcase we get every year. Euforia should bring out the best in him. The tercera tag match should be great. This card should be good. Still, the last night is usually by far the best night of the three, and it’s a lot more even this year.

lucha TV preview for weekend of January 6th

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No CMLL Sunday shows now. LU finishes up for now just in time for AAA to come back with new episodes. The Lucha Underground preview doesn’t outright specify matches, but Dragon Azteca probably is going to get himself killed against Matanza.

Still can’t believe Friday’s card is for real. It’s going to be something. It’s a NJPW World airing too.

IWRG will have another addition to the Imposible title match playlist

Dragon Lee shows up in NJPW, CMLL to WM weekend

apparently you can say hello with a German suplex

Dragon Lee showed up this morning on NJPW’s New’s Year Dash show, attacking Hiromu Takahashi (Kamaitachi.) He wants a shot at Takahashi’s IWGP Junior Championship and sounds like he’ll get it at FantasticaMania. I keep on figuring that Dragon Lee’s travels are going to be a big lucha libre story of 2017.

FantasticaMania lineups will be out by 11pm tonight.

Sangre Azteca was one of the guests on last night’s CMLL Informa, revealing he’ll soon be out three months with dental issues. That’s some messed up teeth. In less mentioned disappearance of midcards, Starman hasn’t been on a CMLL show since October 4. He appears to be taking indie bookings, so he’s likely outside of CMLL now.

On the same Informa, Puma & Tiger tried to find out when he and his family were getting the trios title shot and got no answers. Alfredo has a bigger recap of this and the latest En+Carados podcast in the Lucha Report.

Sam Adonis & Ultimo Guerrero versus Mistico & Stuka Jr. will take place on 04/01 (Saturday) in Orlando. I believe it’s the noon show listed here, part of the many shows happening around WrestleMania. This is the same Saturday night as the ROH, who’ve said they’ll have CMLL people on this show. It’s possible the CMLL guys could double up there, but my impression is those at least started as separate deals.

At yesterday’s AAA media day, Pagano said he’d like new challenges, like challenging Texano for his title. Given how hard AAA’s pushed Pagano in the last year and Texano’s lack of things to do, that would make the most sense and is something they could easily set up at Guerra de Titanes. (That’s still two weeks away.) And then all the rudos and tecnicos there ate a meal together, which seems weird but OK.

AAA’s posted the full Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner guest appearance on the holiday edition of Zona Ruda. This is a good idea for AAA to post; for years, one of the most viewed videos on my channel was a Televisa Deportes talk show with luchadors discussing the state of lucha libre.

Vaquerita says she wants a title match with Zeuxis and plans to change her look soon.

Lucha Memes says there will be a CMLL title match on their next show.

TKD and CultIcon review this week’s Lucha Underground.

Segunda Caida reviews Bandolero & DJ Z vs Skayde Jr. & Gringo Loco.

A short article on the making of plastic lucha libre figures.


AULL (SAT) 01/14/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Princesa Mexica & Starcross vs Dragón Force & Prehispanic
2) Cometa, Juan el Ranchero, Súper Panda vs Diva Salvaje, El Caporal, Juana La Loca
3) Epitafio, Leviatham, Samael, Tormento vs Dante, Euro, Filder, Holkan
4) Diosa Atenea © vs Keneisha Moon [WWS WOMEN]
5) Ángel Del Amor, Mr. Potro, Rocky Santana vs Ángel o Demonio, León Rojo, Ovett
6) Emperador Azteca & Flamita vs Sádico & Yoruba © [AULL TAG]
first defense

There’s little change this is going to turn up, but the main event has a) the people who were last tag team champions defending the belt without some sort of phantom change and b) Flamita versus his best indie rival, Sadico.

The WWS Women’s championship is the most logically built up title in Mexico.

CMLL Martes de Glamour: 2017-01-03 

rope skills

Recapped: 01/03-04/2017

What happened: Máximo lost to Negro Casas in much the same way Carístico lost to Carístico the same night before.

What was good: There wasn’t a title match, but the undercard was generally less life destroying.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. Read More

Lucha Underground 3×18: Evil Rising

Drago breaks Saltador


Sexy Star defeat Mariposa (top rope double stomp, 6:52, ok)

Drago [O], Vibora, Pindar defeat Mala Suerte, Saltador, Paul London [X] (6:55, running blockbuster DDT, ok)

Johnny Mundo beat the Mack (low blow, 9:40, good)


that poor desk

Johnny Mundo beat the Mack and Johnny Mundo is still the Lucha Underground champion, but Johnny Mundo and the Mack still are yet to have a Lucha Underground championship match. Dario Cueto, in his most bait-and-switch move in a while, changed tonight’s match between the two from a title match to one where the winner would choose the stipulation. As easily foreseen when the Mack told Sexy Star to stay out of it, Worldwide Underground interfered to give Johnny the win. Mundo insulted the Mack post match, then declared their match would be an All Night Long iron man match.

Sexy’s own night went better: she defeated Mariposa again. Mariposa showed a bit of the spark from her Battle of the Bulls fight, but was defeated cleanly at the end. There was still no indication or admission she had been behind the spider taunting, which predictably means it was someone else. Marty the Moth came to the ring after Sexy had left, helping Mariposa up to predictably attack his sister.

The middle trios match was less predictable. For one, both the Rabbit Tribe (who erroneously believe Máscarita Sagrada is their white rabbit leader) and the Reptile Tribe are both too new to be predictable. We saw some of the same hi-jinks from the Rabbits as last time, but the Reptiles are pretty much new. Kobra Moon ordered a previously chained Drago to take her place in the match, and he had no problems working with his captors. The announcers speculated Drago had been brainwashed or drugged in some way. Fenix and Aerostar saved him post match. The surprise here was Drago didn’t immediately turn on them, but he still seemed to be pretty confused.

The only other outside of the ring story started and closed the show. Mil Muertes was understandably upset about Prince Puma violating the rules of a Grave Consequences match by showing up alive – only he’s allowed to do that! Catrina correctly blamed Vampiro, and Mil Muertes thrashed Vampiro to end the show. (In a very A New Hope touch, Prince Puma made it as far as the apron but couldn’t/didn’t stop his mentor from getting a flatliner to death.)

Reptile double team

One other thing: Jeremiah Crane tried to brag to Catrina about defeating the person she loves, only to be crushed when Catrina revealed she loved someone else. That’s what happens when you miss season 1, Crane!

There was one single commercial and one station bug adjacent message noting next week’s show as the midseason finale. It’s subtle enough that people might have missed it, and I’m guessing most people who don’t closely follow the show won’t realize it until it shows up on c&p sites tomorrow; it’s the danger of breaking news late on a Wednesday! It appeared that audio references to the Mundo/Mack title match happening in two weeks were muted. That makes sense, though not having Striker or Melissa in front of a microphone to replace their audio suggests a) they had to get it done quick/cheaply and b) they might not have known exactly when it was coming back when they made the changes.

Nothing was announced for next week, for the first time in a while. It’d be fair to expect the title match is happening next week given the way the show ended, but they never explicitly said it and it seems intended to air on episode 20, the first episode of the second season. (There’s could always switch up the order, but the preview for the next normally scheduled episode has a non-wrestling segment with Mack and Mundo that would have to be replaced if they did.)


seems familiar

Whenever season 3 is done and we’re (maybe) ranking episodes again, this will be an easy one to file in the skipable range. The matches weren’t great and the storylines didn’t really move a whole lot, or at least didn’t need the full episode to move as much as we did. It feels like the Sexy Star/spider story didn’t move at all. I guess we’re supposed to think Sexy is so perfect that she couldn’t be picking on the wrong person, because at no point in the storyline did they even work in a red herring to make one believe Mariposa was actually behind things. If there’s no progression, then it’s just another Sexy Star singles match in a season with a lot of them, and a Sexy Star/Mariposa rematch that’s not near as good as the last one you had. There’s not going to leave all that much useful out when they cut it down to 10 seconds in the next previously opening montage.

The main event was not a lot better as far as moving things along. Dario could’ve announced the All Night Long match in his interaction with the Mack backstage and it would’ve meant as much. The idea that they were facing each other to determine a stipulation really wasn’t given time to have any weight, and we barely had time to think about what stipulation either guy would want before the match was happening. (What would’ve Mack picked? I guess Falls Count Anywhere worked out ok for him.) I liked the match, with Mack’s size forcing Mundo into more of a pounding brawl than usual. The idea of Mundo as a long term champion with lots of title matches, like Puma and Matanza, but being forced to adapt to his challengers styles instead of his own has some promise. This didn’t totally get to that potential but it was enough to for me to like it fine. The finish came off super flat, with Mundo down for a long time as Mack and the referee kept going back and forth between PJ Black and Jack Evans on the apron. It felt like Mundo missed his cue about when to get back up, and it was strange they couldn’t save it in editing.

They really need Sexy Star and the Mack to start realizing they can’t just go alone when Mundo’s interfering, or at least give better reasons to do it than pride. By now, the frustration isn’t on Worldwide Underground for interfering, it’s on the técnicos for not at least attempting to stop them.

Mundo was in danger whenever Mack could grab him

The Russo swerve of Marty attacking his sister is the worst of predictable booking. It’s always done where there’s no reason for the two friendly characters to be having this interaction without the turn, and without really any good explanation for the turn. They really needed some follow up on this show, right after Marty attacked Mariposa, to make it mean something. It felt cheap and pointless as it was presented, but maybe one of them might now win a feud. There’s nothing there that you’ll wouldn’t get the same amount out of when it airs to start a show.

The trios match seemed to not work as intended. I think the idea was to get over the Reptile Tribe, but the Rabbit Tribe is so colorful and wacky that the slightly newer guys got overshadowed. Pindar seemed like he got nearly as much in on Aerostar after the match as he did during the match. Maybe Vibora too; Fenix and Aerostar were better at being gnats for them to swat away, and maybe some Argenis-level team would’ve helped give a stronger first impression. The mystery over Drago’s actions at least came thru well. Drago came back to técnicos awfully quickly , which probably means this story isn’t over, but it’s interesting enough that I want to see that more.

That’s the deal. Predictable stuff is good if you’re interested in the destination. This one just had a batch of storylines where I’m not that interested in them right now and the matches didn’t really make up for it. The good thing about LU is there’s so much stuff – maybe too much stuff! – so we’ll likely get a whole different batch of stories moving forward next week and I’ll probably like those more. And I’m intrigued to find out how Mundo & Mack can go 40 minutes, but I may have to wait a while for that.

This did look cool.

Tuesday results, LU preview, Lider keeps his hair in a hair loss

Skadi & Metalica

CMLL (TUE) 01/03/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon]
1) Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Universo 2000 b Acero & Aéreo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 3 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:46. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Estrellita, Sanely, Skadi b La Seductora, Metálica, Reyna Isis LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 3 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:07. Tecnicas took 1/3.
3) Okumura, Skándalo, Virus b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 3 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:26. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Sagrado b Tritón [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 3 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Ephesto, Hechicero, Ripper b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 3 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6) Euforia, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero b Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 3 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3, Casas sneaking in a foul on Maximo.

Second straight day where Casas snuck in a foul on someone to win in the last trios match of the night. I guess there’s worst people you could do it with. I’ve seen the first half of this show so far, and was half paying attention to the main event. You don’t really need to see the first half of this card (though the women’s match was not the disaster it could’ve been.) Sagrado/Triton sounds like it was the best match.

A CMLL article talks about, after defeating La Mascara in Puebla, Volador will be going into FantasticaMania as champion. The article then ends saying they have no idea if Volador will actually defend the title on the tour. That’s about as helpful as I am. The lineups are expected to be out in the next two days.

Lucha Underground tonight is episode 18 of the season, “Evil Rising”. Matches scheduled:

  • Mariposa vs Sexy Star (open)
  • Paul London, Mala Suerte, Saltador vs Vibora, Pindar, Kobra Moon
  • Johnny Mundo (c) vs the Mack for the Lucha Underground Championship.

This is the second to last episode of the newly invented half season. Someone who asked LU writer Chris DeJoseph got a “go ask El Rey” answer about when LU would return for Season 3 Part 2, but later said he was told but couldn’t remember. That does give us that there’s an actual plan here, just one El Rey hasn’t been much interested in communicating; there’s been no mention of the midseason finale outside of the commercial.

I have an unconfirmed idea of when the show will be back; my impression is it’ll be along the same lines as the break between season 2 and season 3. That was 6 weeks. It’s probably a little longer this time, but not much.

You’ll know what the big deal is for episode #20, which would be second half premiere, by the end of this episode.

AAA is doing a media day for Guerra de Titanes. There probably will be stories from that tomorrow, but nothing much interesting has been said the last few; it’s purpose is to remind people they exist and they’re running a show. Doesn’t look like there was a fight to set up a match this time.

Lucha Memes announced they’re running Chairo 8 on 01/29 in Arena Naucalpan. It’ll be the third straight week for them to run the building, so it must be working for them. First match announced
1: Hechicero vs Dr. Cerbero

Post match interviews from the Arena Neza cage match show Joe Lider with just the sides of his head cut like a normal hair cut. It’s enough hair so Pagano can triumphantly post about the hair he won, but it’s the definition of a fraud. (Really, even if he got his head shaved five minutes after that video ends, not doing the hair cut stipulation in front of the fans is not giving them what they paid for.) As Rob pointed out on Twitter, he’s probably planning to lose the rest of it in Arena Aficion in a couple weeks.

Cross Arm Breaker reviews Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Canis Lupus.

Ultimo Dragon announced DragonMania will take place May 27th. It’ll be his 30th anniversary as a wrestler and he’s invited Jun Akiyama to return.

The president of the Tepic Box Y Lucha commission says there’s not any lucha libre fans in Tepic, and the luchadors aren’t much good either. I’m not the most negative person today! Super Calo is opening a school there soon, which seems like it’d help.

Mr. Coyote unmasked Rey Tornado in Xalapa.


CMLL (TUE) 01/10/2017 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Robin vs Cancerbero, Disturbio, Grako
3) Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, Stigma vs Forastero, Okumura, Virus
4) Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Niebla Roja
5) Máximo Sexy vs Negro Casas
6) Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

They did do a feud! Just a quick one, since Maximo is off to Japan sometime after this show. This is nearly FantasticaMania Day 0 given all the people scheduled for this show who are on the tour.  Five in the main event, Maximo, everyone but Niebla Roja in the tercera, Blue Panther and Okumura in the segunda. They’re saving a lot of people who will still be around for Friday bookings.

CMLL (TUE) 01/10/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Sky Kid & Smaker vs Frezzer & Furia Roja
2) Leono, Magnum, Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Inquisidor, Rey Trueno
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Tritón vs Puma, Sagrado, Tiger
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Valiente vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Cavernario, Felino, Mephisto

Speaking of people who will be around: Diamante Azul is back. Not so excited for that. Tercera seems really fun for the people who get to see it.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-01-02 

Rey Cometa is the most Mexican man alive

Recapped: 01/03/2017

What happened: Volador kept his title over La Mascara, and Negro Casas and Carístico have issues.

What was good: The last two matches, though the last one is more of a grudging acknowledgment than a strong recommendation. I liked parts of the tercera.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. Read More

2016 watch later catch up, part 9 of ∞

quien es proximo

Matches reviewed in this post

  • Guerrero Maya Jr. & The Panther vs Puma & Tiger for the Arena Coliseo (DF) Tag Team Championship, Arena Coliseo, 02/27/2016
  • Laredo Kid vs FlamitaAerostarSéptimo Dragón, 8105 Campo Bowie West Blvd, Benbrook, Texas, 06/03/2016 
  • Hechicero & Máscara Dorada vs Ángel Blanco Jr. & Flamita, Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 09/03/2016 
  • Arez vs Sammy Guevara, Arena Coliseo Monterrey, 09/04/2016 
  • Heddi Karaoui © vs Imposible for the IWRG Intercontinental Middleweight Championship, Arena Naucalpan, 09/04/2016 
  • Drastik Boy & Jinzo vs Genio del Aire & Próximo and Aero Boy & Black Boy, Arena Nacionalista, Mexicali, Baja California, 11/27/2016 

I’m trying to mix up who I watch, and that’s leading to some weird combination of matches. I’m actually done with February! It’s only 11 months later, doing pretty good.

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