11/28 AAA Lucha Libre Premier Lineup

AAA LLP (SUN) 11/28 Six Flags, DF
1) El Elegido, Fabi Apache, Octagoncito vs Alan Stone, Jennifer Blake, Mini Histeria
2) Cibernético, Extreme Tiger, Jack Evans vs El Ilegal, Hernandez, Último Gladiador
3) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Zorro vs El Mesías & Electroshock [Campeonato Premier, semifinal]
4) ?? vs ??? [Campeonato Premier, final]

Projected Air Date (2×5, 2×6)
Mexico: 12/04, 12/11

This is being promoted as the final show, so I guess the season’s just six weeks long this year. I’m heavily suspecting Mesias to win this.

Cibernetico teaming with the Bizarros would make more sense, but I guess they just wanted to get Jack & Tiger on TV?

AAA lists Ilegal as El Boricua on it’s page for this show. You get the sense the new name was a last minute change and some people still aren’t aware.

12/05 AAA TV Lineup (Zapopan) – Guerra de Titanes

AAA TV (SUN) 12/05 Auditorio Benito Juarez, Zapopan, Jalico
1) Gato Eveready, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Decnnis, Mini Abismo Negro, Polvo de Estrellas
2) Aerostar, El Elegido, Octagón vs Alan Stone, Chris Stone, Súper Fly
3) Silver King & Último Gladiador vs Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario and El Ilegal & Hernandez [AAA TAG, Ladder]
4) Espíritu, Extreme Tiger, Jack Evans, La Parka Jr. vs ???, Cibernético, Escoria, Taboo
5) El Mesías vs LA Park
6) Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Damián 666, Halloween, X-Fly
7) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Zorro [AAA HEAVY]

2010 AAA TV Recap
Projected Air Date (#967)
Mexico: 12/12
US: 12/25

I haven’t been on the boards today, so this may have been posted on one of those first, but I saw it on En El Ring.

With the obvious exception of the second match, everything makes sense based on the TV angles they’ve done so far. Super Fly on the rudo team is no surprise, but unless they did a backstage angle to explain it in Leon, they won’t have actually done the turn before this show happens. After all this build up, forgetting to do the actual turn is just about right.

Once Lider brought in a ladder for no reason, it was pretty obvious they were doing a multiteam ladder match soon. I’d guess Ozz & Cuervo would be in this too if they weren’t in a different country.

Mystery man is a New Bizarro. Tecnico side are the guys who the Bizarros have attacked (plus Tiger.)

First time Mesias & Park have had a singles match. That’s really the second biggest match on the show.

Cage match does NOT have hair or masks on the line. When this feud started, it seemed very likely the Perros would be the ones to finally end the streak. Not nearly as likely with X-Fly involved.

Zorro and Dr. Wagner theoretically could have title singles matches for two straight Sundays. They could be in the Lucha Libre Premier finals tomorrow and this title match on Sunday, which may tell you all you need to know about who’s actually going to be in those finals. We like Zorro, but he seems to be just a guy to get to be a challenger here and it’d be a surprise if the title changes hands.

It’s a bit surprising AAA didn’t just use up Chessman’s title match here. If they’re going to adhere to their own rules, Chessman now must cash in the title shot at Rey de Reyes. (They may not.)

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX #261 (11/20/2010)

Perico walks softly, carries a loud noisemaker

Arena Mexico, 11/14/2010. Classic bit of having no memory of anything I saw three days later. We’re in a really boring stretch of TV since the tag tournament.

Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Plata, Fabián el Gitano vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Skándalo: Fabian is programmed like he’s the fourth Angel. That’s a mix. There have been roughly five million versions of this match and at least four million were better.

Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano, Valiente vs Ephesto, Felino, Negro Casas: Too much TV. I don’t need to see the same Toscano/Felino spots every week.

Wagner III wins a mask, Sombra/Dragon Rojo, lineup

OILL (TUE) 11/23 Arena Aficion [DINO @ box y lucha, Estrellas del Ring]
1) Concord b Sable
2) Maldito Jr. & Samot b Brazo Metalico & Chico Che
3) Esther Moreno & Flor Metalica b La Chola & Rossy Moreno
4) el Ángel, Juventud Guerrera, Marco Corleone, Oriental b Espectro de Ultratumba Jr., Scorpio Jr., Super Calo, Zumbido
5) Fishman Jr. & Histeria II b Black Abyss & Canek Jr. [losers advance]
6) Black Abyss & Canek Jr. b Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. & Mascara Sagrada Jr. [losers advance]
7) Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. b Mascara Sagrada Jr. [mask]

Some slight changes. The third Dr. Wagner picked up his first mask. Mascara Sagrada Jr. is the former AAA guy – he might have been announced as “Mascara Jr.” and he was actually wearing his Super AAA gear, but he’s Hugo Torres, from DF, 15 years a wrestler. The Box Y Lucha recap says Mascara hurried from the ring after he lost his mask and they did not give out a name, but Estrellas del Ring’s reporter had backstage access and the photos.

CMLL (TUE) 11/23 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Astaroth b Metalik
2) Hierro & Virgo b Infierno & León Blanco
3) Neutrón & Palacio Negro b Ángel del Mal & Malefico
4) Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Volador Jr. b Delta, Sagrado, Valiente
5) La Sombra, Máximo, Metro b Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino, Negro Casas

Sombra pinned Dragon Rojo to take the match, then challenged for a mask vs mask match. Dragon Rojo said “no”, but did accept a singles match next week. In another interview, Dragon says he’s trying to prove himself by taking on the top guys, and those are Mistico & Sombra, plus he’s got old school issues with Sombra.

AAA says they have a “private” show in Toluca on Saturday, but it’ll be taped for TV. My guess is it’s a special show for Teleton weekend. No lineup announced, but there will be results on Facebook.

11/24 [WSTL]: Ozz & Cuervo b Taru & Rene Dupree [Ozz special on Dupree ]
La Secta is 2-1, 4 points.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.



CMLL (TUE) 11/30 Arena Mexico
1) Camaleón & Freesbe vs Mortiz & Zayco
2) Astral, Fantasy, Pequeño Halcón vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Universo 2000
3) Fabián el Gitano, Fuego, Rush vs Dr. X, Loco Max, Virus
4) Metro, Rotoporky, Shocker vs Shigeo Okumura, Texano, Vangelis
5) Atlantis, Misterioso II, Último Guerrero vs Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Taichi

AAA on Televisa #964 (11/13/2010)

Update 11/28: links fixed

Arena Actopan, 10/20/2010

slap fight

Fabi Apache & Mari Apache vs Alissa Flash & Sexy Star: Alissa wins the match clean over Fabi, hasn’t appeared again. This is a minor thing, but the major show to major show undercard planning has fallen apart this year.

Argenis, Crazy Boy, Gato Eveready vs Billy Boy, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana: I liked this. Argenis is way better than he should for a guy who was legitimately awful to start and doesn’t seem to be booked on spot shows. Militia entertaining themselves is at least entertaining me, and it’s nice they found a trio they can actually get a clean win over.

Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario vs Silver King & Último Gladiador in a handcuff match: For a random stipulation match, this was perfectly fine. Percentage of people who are shocked that Nicho knows how to pick a lock: 0.0000%. This was also the best Konnan interference ever.

Cuervo, La Parka Jr., Ozz vs Chessman, Hernandez, Zorro: New theory: AJPW asked AAA to build up Ozz & Cuervo before they came over for the tag team tournament. It’s as a good an explanation for the switch as any. Still good.

Cibernético, El Mesías, Octagón vs Damián 666, Electroshock, Halloween: Electroshock and Mesias should slap each other more often.

megaupload link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2G81W6JL

11/27-28 lucha times


AAA-US: Fun show, especially the first few matches. Ilegal debuts, Jack & Tiger return from Japan, and Zorro suddenly gets an angle.

52MX: excellent rudo trio of Demus/Escorpion/Puma. Less excellent trio of Polvora/Okumura/Yoshihashi in the main event.

LATV: They have been jumping around here. Next in line is a show with a Electrico/Warrior minis trios and a women’s trios (tecnicas vs Invasors)

TF: the 11/02 taping, which CMLL and Fuego never actually had results for. Escorpion teams with Misterioso and Sangre vs the dream team of of Fabian/Rush/Toscano + Avernos vs Sombra/Maximo/Shocker.


CMLL: Build up for Bucanero vs Aguila + other people having matches.

AAA-MEX: LA Park returns, teams with Maniacos vs Mesias, Jack, Parka. Minis roulette match, lumberjack match.

AAA-LLP: Minis match and one of the quarterfinals.

CMLL-FOX: Durango/Tuareg vs Angel/Starman/*Cameleon* + Dragon/UG/Volador vs Sombra/Mistico/Shocker. That sounds really good.

CMLL-C3: Fantasma, Mascara, Msitico vs Ephesto, Taichi, Texano

CMLL-GDL: bonus match is Neutron & Palacio Negro vs Angel del Mal & Malefico, which is probably pretty solid.

ACM: they went backwards last week, so no idea. I probably should just be asking people on Twitter

IWRG: not totally sure what’s going on here, but maybe Sunday’s show? Time is correct, at least.

CMLL-TFN: Last year’s Sin Piedad = No Limit vs Texano & Terrible.

CMLL Guadalajara on Teleformula #21 (11/14/2010)

Mascara Dorada, 2010

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, 10/12/2010

Women’s split the difference of the other two this weekend. Tiffany was better here, and she’s got a lot more personality than most of the women. There’s a role for her here, and this was a better performance.

It’s always the Panther matches (and usually the Averno ones) where the usual beatdown->comeback formula get thrown out to do something slightly different. It may be because he’s the only left who remembers lucha before that formula and cares enough to try something different. Not a lot of Dorada but he looked good in what he did.

Puebla, Mexico, retirement, lineups

CMLL (MON) 11/22 Arena Puebla [Cinco Radio]
4) Mephisto, Taichi, Vangelis b Máximo, Metro, Sagrado
5) Atlantis, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. b Charly Manson, Olímpico, Psicosis

Last week, Psicosis II unmasked Psicosis III on Luchas 2000. This week, AAA ripped both of them in Luchas 2000. Psicosis II responded after his match, talking about Black Abyss coming to CMLL soon, promising more surprises and saying AAA/Dorian started by treating people badly.


CMLL (TUE) 11/23 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Camaleón & Robin b Cholo & Semental
2) Astro Boy, Molotov, Starman b Escorpion, Inquisidor, Puma King
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata DQ Loco Max, Pólvora, Skándalo
4) Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Toscano b Shigeo Okumura, Vangelis, Yoshihashi
5) Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara, Místico b Ephesto, Taichi, Texano

All tecnico night. All five people who went to the show were thrilled. Attendance looks sparse.

Rey Bucanero was originally listed in the main event, but they switched him out for Ephesto sometime in the last few days, and Yoshihashi took Ephesto’s place on in the semimain. Tecnicos won, but Fantasma was still strechered out after a Taichi move. Two stretcher rides in three days for Fantasma.

Semimain ended with dueling pin – Vangelis on Stuka and Toscano on Okumura – but since Okumura was the captain, the tecnicos won.

Loco Max fouled Angel de Oro for a straight fall DQ loss. His hair still needs at least a couple months.

Also, this past weekend, Arena Puebla handed out it’s awards for locals at it’s annual dinner/dance.

Best Tecnico: Milenium
Best Rudo: Fuerza Chicana
Promising: Akron
Special Recognition: Black Tiger (25 years), Espiritu Maligno.

Mr. Rafaga, who lost his match to Pierrothito last year and last wrestled in October, announced his retirement at this event. This is probably a legit retirement, since there’s not many Puebla spots to go around as it is.

In a video promo for Mi Lucha Libre, Cibernetico promises two more Bizarros at Guerra de Titantes. How big is this group going to be?


  • There are arrest warrants out (and a mug shot) for a suspect in Solid’s murder.
  • Guadalajara’s Black Metal will participate in tomorrow’s CMLL bodybuilding contest.
  • EAW has a show. First time since they disappeared before the Lucha Libre Expo shows.
  • Mephisto says he spent his time in the hospital planning revenge on Fantasma. I guess part of the plan was not treating it like a blood feud on Ras de Lona.
  • Mi Lucha Libre has an audio interview with Dr. Wagner Jr.


CMLL (MON) 11/29 Arena Puebla
1) Lestat & Stigma vs Espiritu Maligno & Siki Osama
2) Astro Boy, Starman, Trueno vs Durango Kid, Hooligan, Inquisidor
3) Diamante, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Cancerbero, Nitro, Raziel
4) Rush, Sagrado, Toscano vs Shigeo Okumura, Taichi, Yoshihashi
5) Brazo de Plata, Shocker, Strong Man vs Héctor Garza, Texano Jr., Volador Jr.

Wow. Maybe find something else to do the last hour?

CMLL (TUE) 11/30 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Astaroth & Virgo vs Templario & Titanio
2) Idolo & Magnum vs Ángel del Mal & In Memoriam
3) Black Metal & Metal Blanco vs Evola & Sangre Azul
4) Blue Panther, Máximo, Toscano vs Averno, Mephisto, Volador Jr.
5) La Sombra vs Dragón Rojo Jr.

Sangre Azul is a new name here. There was one in Xalapa last year. He’s already a favorite, there’s not enough Azuls.

I eagerly anticipate seeing that main event – it’s a Christmas present for the US show.

CMLL (SUN) 12/05 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Metal, Horus, Palacio Negro vs Ángel del Mal, Puma King, Tiger Kid
2) Goya Kong, Lluvia, Silueta vs La Comandante, Mima Shimoda, Princesa Blanca
3) Fuego, Metro, Stuka Jr. vs Escorpion, Pólvora, Semental
4) Máscara Dorada, Rush, Strong Man vs El Alebrije, Olímpico, Psicosis
5) Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Universo 2000

This is going up against Guerra de Titanes, 9 km away. It’s also a Rayo celebration.

top six stories of the last two weeks

  1. Solid, of Lucha Libire USA, was murdered while at his night job as a bouncer
  2. Electrico vs Pequeno Warrior (mask) and Rey Bucanero vs Mr. Aguila (hair) were announced CMLL’s year end show on 12/03
  3. Zorro vs Wagner and Psycho Circus vs Los Perros were announced for Guerra de Titantes on 12/05 in Zapopan. In nearby GDL, CMLL will run Rayo vs Universo.
  4. Los Bizarros attacked both La Sociedad and AAA, establishing themselves as a third unaligned faction.
  5. Apolo Estrada Jr., Ultimo Guerrero and Mima Shimoda all won apuesta matches
  6. The teams of Dr. Wagner & Zorro and Mesias & Electroshock advanced to the final of the Lucha Libe Premiere tournament.
  • Mascara Dorada vacated his third of the Mexican National Trios title. There will be a vote for…something.
  • Electroshock refused to join La Sociedad and may be a tecnico now.
  • La Mascara retained the national light heavyweight championship
  • CMLL annoucned the return of Copa Jr.
  • Dorada & Sombra did not win the NJPW Super Juior tag tournament

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX #260 (11/13/2010)

Arena Coliseo, 11/07/10


Dalys la Caribeña, Lluvia, Marcela vs Amapola, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sujei: THIS was better than the women’s match on the LATV show, with just Lluvia & Dalis in for Estrellita & Tiffany. It was also much less of a (poor) brawl and more Amapola/Marcela, but still…

Hijo del Fantasma, Rush, Sagrado vs Mephisto, Taichi, Yoshihashi: this didn’t get wherever it was going before the Mephisto injury. I’ve seen a hundred things which looked worse in the flow of the action than Mephisto’s injury – so much so that it seemed like it could be a strange angle – but it did look a lot worse when they slowed it down.