AAA #903 (09/12/09)

taped 08/17/2009

Always interesting to see what changes between when AAA tapes TV and when they air it. This was the taping with no announcers, though you’d be hard pressed to notice it. There were no shots of announces, and occasionally you could hear the replacement ring announcing, but they removed all traces of the angle done to cover their absence.

You know what would be dumb? A promotion giving away results from a show we haven’t seen yet, for no particular reason.

Rió Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana II vs Argenis, Atomic Boy, Relampago – too much time and not the right guys to fill it. They’ve definitely had better matches than this.

Alex Koslov & Teddy Hart vs Jack Evans & Rocky Romero – At this point, only Alex has a match on the next big show, if you’re just following along to the TV show. So he’s the only one who doesn’t get promo time, and Teddy’s promo doesn’t explain why Nikki’s back or where she’s been. But he does use the time to push his important feud with Harry Smith and Tyson Kidd, so that’s great.

I’d rather watch Alex Koslov in a match than Teddy Hart any day of the week. Teddy is a very athletic individual who can do lots of spots, but Alex can actually be entertaining. A rudo who gets beat up by the tecnicos and only gains an advantage by cheating, what a idea.

Either someone needed to explain to Piero that these guys wanted to use tap outs as submissions, or someone needed to explain to these guys how to give up in lucha libre. Having it go wrong twice in two tapings is lazy.

Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario vs El Elegido & Gronda – Expected mess. The damage is usually self inflicted via stupid risk, but I actually feel sympathy when Joe Lider gets bat up here, because it’s often his opponents being dumb.

Billy Boy & Sexy Star vs Aerostar & Fabi Apache in a street fight match – Billy pinning Aerostar was a pretty clear sign, in retrospect. Oh well. Billy and Aero were having a pretty good match at points, which we saw little off. They’ve certainly built the rudos strong here. The street fight seemed not so completely thought out – they wanted to do a spot on the second floor, but had no idea what else to do, so they just walked over, did the spot, and walked back.

Charly Manson & Marco Corleone vs Chessman & Cibernético – no, this was old school Vipers, especially everything involving Marco. Marco/Chessman is a feud that would be vastly entertaining.

El Mesías vs Dr. Wagner Jr. in a bull terrier match – Good thing this aired after Verano; this match would’ve sold negative tickets. Every time they do these rematches, it seems more likely their TripleMania match was one brilliant but completely isolated moment in time. (Though this was still much better than their one on one in the cage match.)

With Cibernético nearly being awarded a win in a chain match he wasn’t actually even in, I now am convinced that Chessman would’ve won the title last year at Guerra de Titanes if Charly had just stayed out of his way and let him climb that ladder. Chessman was so right to turn on him.

Negro Casas’ wife, Perros, Box Y Lucha

Cesar points out it wasn’t Estrellita Magica who wrestled in the segunda on Tuesday. It was actually “Dalis La Caribena”, Negro Casas’ wife (who’s also Veneno’s sister) Both she and Negro had mentioned she was training to become a wrestler, but it’s still surprising – more so, since CMLL hasn’t actually noted it yet. She has a background in kickboxing and various martial arts before starting wrestling.

Speaking of wifes (or ex-wifes of whatever) – with Groon XXX being out of AAA, does that mean Esther Moreno is gone as well?

AAA says they’ll addres the Ciberentico/Konnan YouTube and Dorian kidnapping on TV this week. Eh.

Box Y Lucha posted many articles, from as old as six weeks ago. There are some completely outdated (Pirata suggesting going to CMLL or AAA when they’ve ended up with Perros), but there’s some still newsworthy stuff:

Los Perros

Perro Jr. says his new TV show will innovate, not immate like other Mexican promotions. They’re not going to mimic US wrestling, but they’re hoping to draw in the Mexican fans who are watching those shows. Speaking of TV, a post on el Martiente says Perro told Reforma’s podcast they’ll be airing Saturdays at 9 pm on Canal 4, which is a different channel and time than we’d heard previously.

– Yet another Charly Manson interview. He was good friends with Marisela and Joaquin, but may sue them if they sue him. Electroshock and he have talked about why Charly left, but Chessman hasn’t and he’s disappointed with Chessman putting him down in the press, even though he figures he’s only doing what he’s told.

Histeria says everyone said AAA would be in trouble after Antonio Pena died, and he feels that’s finally happening. Histeria is to again foreign wrestlers, but they’ve got to focus on Mexican wrestling. He’s heard AAA wrestlers are told to watch US wrestling and imitate that style, and that’s the sort of thing that led to him leaving AAA..

Villano III columns on
being tear gassed by a female fan of Matematico
stories about Scorpio Jr.
his memories of Roberto Paz
– the time he, I and II were mistaken for a criminal gang


India Sioux, Maximo, and child, who was born on August 18th. India does hope to return to the ring, but had a c-section and will need at least a year to recover, and thinks she may might as well restart her career with a new name after being out so long. She’s already figuring on her new son getting into the business, because everyone else in the family is. Maximo says he told India there was no way he was going into the delivery room, but he gathered up the courage at the last moment – and nearly fainted.

Scorpio Jr. about his career. He’s got two kids in wrestling – olympic wrestling – but is hoping they don’t go into lucha libre. But then, his dad wanted the same thing.

Mima Shimoda wants you to know she’s only teammates with Okumura and No Limit, and is looking for a Mexican boyfriend. She’s wrestled less this year because they want to give the newer woman chances.

– Female indy wrestler Oasis is hoping to make it to CMLL, since she debuted on an indy show against Crazy Star and Star Fire. Her trainer is Mini Chessman.

History of Lucha Libre

Other links…

In a recap of Arena Puebla’s show, Sangre Azteca says Black Warrior is out of Poder Mexica. That would put the Mexican National Trios titles in limbo.

Rafael El Maya is asked about referes in Mexico, says most of them outside of CMLL DF need work and don’t take the job professional enough. He and Ultimo Guerrero are talking about opening a referee training school at UG’s gym.

DTU is setting up a feud with CZW. There’s a perfect match.

The Gladiatores has videos from the 101 Llaves and Lances opening, and an interview with Toxico.

Segunda Caida has Negro Navarro as #5 of 2008. I think they’re going to make it.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

AAA (SUN) 10/18 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [RFC]
1) Esther Moreno & Estrellita vs Cinthia Moreno & Tiffany
2) May Flowers, Pimpinela Escarlata, Polvo de Esterllas vs Rey Demonio Jr., Rey Infernal, Rey Sagitario
3) Extreme Tiger, Jack Evans, Rocky Romero vs Sugi San, Teddy Hart, Zorro
4) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Silver King vs El Elegido & El Mesías

Usual post-major show return to ACM for AAA.

10/10-11 Lucha Times


AAA-US: Late, and a split feed for the first time in a while. Oriental’s farewell, a match featuring Groon XXX and Jack Evans, and the WagnerManicas vs Mesias and AAA

52MX: Mistico/Panther/Toscano vs Triad. Dr X as a fill in tecnico, versus the Tuareg.

CMLL: STRONG MAN. Also, Triad vs Sombra/Dorada/Volador

AAA-MEX: if I’m following what aired on AAA TV last week – and that sure is a different look to TV – the Reina de Reinas, hair match, and Torneo Antonio Pena wil air here. And the lights out match will never air because it was a very bad idea.

FSE-CMLL: This show is airing at 10AM this week. UG/Volador, the mask match they really want you to think it’s happening, and in Arena Coliseo too. Also, Rene Guajardo & Romanos vs Astro Boy, Metalico, Starman – actually, no, they’ll be airing something else, that match can only exist in photos.

FSE-AAA: maybe a new episode? Maybe? It’s bumped to Sunday at 5pm, and I don’t see a weekend airing next week. This show has been a pretty total failure so far.

Puebla: More STrong Man,. I’m going to guess they drop the tercera, for no real reason.

Monterrey: Gato Volador/Silver Star/Tiger Universitario is a very Monterrey trio.

AAA #902 (09/05)

taped 08/07/09, which means I’m punctuality two months behind.

Argenis, Atomic Boy, Gato Eveready vs Rió Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana II – the better of the recent ones. Argenis is a not-horrible wrestler who has an occasional high spot, which is not only impressive because it’s nice to see people to improve, but shocking to see someone improve in AAA at this point in time.

Fabi Apache vs Sexy Star – Sexi Star as the most improved wrestler? Sexi Star as the best character in AAA? She needs some sort of award.

Jack Evans & Rocky Romero vs Alex Koslov & Sugi San – if Extreme Tiger was the one who was hurt, why did we never see Teddy here? Maybe this was all explained in commentary I wasn’t paying listening to. This is the cruiserweight match I got bored with – look, we’ll reference ROH spots .005% of the crowd is aware of! – but it does get better.

Charly Manson & El Mesías vs Chessman & Cibernético – I liked the storyline of the Chessman/Charly feud, but the matches…not so much. Meanwhile, Cibernetico just brushing off his former best friends for a feud with Mesias is quite up there in the lameness. Though, and maybe I’m getting matches confused here, there opening sequence felt not like the reunification of the Hell Brothers, but the Vipers falling all over the place to make a tecnico look good.

Alan Stone, La Parka Jr., Marco Corleone vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Electroshock, Silver King – what the heck was the deal with Electro at the end here? Are their people undecided on Electroshock’s technical abilities (after how many years on TV) that he thought he might win them over with a few extra holds? I mean, I’m pretty sure they wanted Electro to look good to justify him being in the new group, but beating Alan Stone isn’t usually going to do it.

Panther hurt, those leaving AAA today, Titanes en el Ring

CMLL (TUE) 10/06 Arena Mexico [ESTO]
2) Estrella Mágica, Lady Apache, Star Fire b Hiroka, La Seductora, Princesa Blanca
3) Arkangel de la Muerte, Nitro, Skándalo b Flash, Rey Cometa, Tigre Blanco
4) Felino, Heavy Metal, Misterioso II b Máximo, Rouge, Stuka Jr.
5) Ray Mendoza Jr., Terrible, Texano Jr. b Blue Panther, Shocker, Toscano

Panther was hurt in the second fall, hitting a turnbuckle on a corner tope and landing badly on the loor.

Tigre Blanco replaced Pegasso, which may be more to set up the mask match than anything with Pegasso.

Lady Apache demanded a title shot at Blanca after winning that trios match. Given the crew she had, Apache earned that title match for pulling out that win.

CMLL (TUE) 10/06 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Ebola & Skaxy b El Divino & Virgo
2) Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno b Egipcio & Leon Blanco
3) Máscara Mágica & Satánico DQ Astaroth & Horus
4) Dr. X, Hooligan, Loco Max b Fabián el Gitano, Metro, Neutrón
5) Hijo del Fantasma & Místico b Atlantis & Último Guerrero

Tecnicos won clean in the main. Neutron was sterchered out of his match. DQ in the tercera was for Magica and Satanico taking both tecnicos’ masks.

And now, people who are no longer in AAA:

– AAA says Groon XXX is gone. If it was his call, Groon XXX is a genius. He got put over on TV for a few weeks and got out before he had to lose. Way to go. If it was AAA’s call, because they just figured out he’s not very good, they need new people in charge. Anyway, points to for scooping everyone else about something leaving their company. You think I’m being sarcastic, but this is an unusual positive achievement for them.

Something to remember Groon XXX by:

Groon XXX doing what he does
Groon XXX doing what he does

Tirantes Sr., who tells the Gladiatores that he doesn’t want to say anything bad about AAA because his family still works there, but also “they violated my rights as a human being.” Tirantes says he could go home to Xalapa and not have to be involved in wrestling again, but he loves wrestling so much, he decided to join the Perros

WagnerMania and LuchandoLibre talked to Charly Manson about his departure. This actually went up a day or two ago, but I didn’t post it because I lost track of which Charly Manson interviews I’d posted. There’s been a few. Anyway, Charly appears to have the Mexican National Heavyweight Championship nailed to his wall, which seems like an odd use.

These are all no problems, because X-Pac is coming back. For the third time.

An exhibtion of Rosalio Vera’s lucha photography opened last night in Gallery Jose Clemente Orozoco in UNAM. It’s in support of the CMLL 101 Llaves and Lances book, featuring his artwork. They let Sangre Azteca help cut the ribbon, and it’s slightly disappointing he did not use them to attack Mascara Dorada. Also, No Limit & Okumura were there, clearly stealing the secrets of Mexican wrestling to defeat Black Warrior. So sad. If you want to steal the secrets of lucha libre, the exhibit runs thru the 30th.

In Argentina, Gengis Khan of the original Titanes en el Ring promotions passed away. Another retired wrestler of the group, Oscar Demelli (who says he played the Mummy but was not the famous one), is using the extra attention to complain about the lack of promised retirement money due to him and the rest of the wrestlers. He’s suing Martin Karadajian’s daughter, and may be totally in the the right, but very much comes off like a paranoid unhinged man. He was held in jail after threatening Argentina’s president for not making the Karadajains pay up, but claims he’s been getting anonymous threatening messages from shadowy people.

Guadalajara’s Guero Loco, just back from a right knee injury, hurt his right knee. They’re hoping he just needed more rehab time, but surgery is possible

Chronicles y Leyenda de Lucha Libre looks back to Jushin Liger’s first trip to Mexico, in 1989.

DJ Spectro’s blog profiles local wrestler Slayer, while Estrellas del Ring writes about Demonio Negro.

Luchas 2000 #490 has results from Heroes de Imortales, including Joaquin Roldan saying AAA owns the name ‘Charly Manson’ and will not let him use it elsewhere.

AAA (SAT) 10/10 Gimnasio Nazario Ortiz Garza, Saltillo [Vanguardia]
1) Gato Volador & Tigre Universitario vs Difunto I & Difunto II
2) Chessman & Konnan vs Electroshock & Marco Corleone

This is the debut show for local promoter Indio Kikapoo (Luis Anaya). Future shows announced are 10/31, 11/15, 12/25 – which is said to be a special TV taping. They can’t possibly really be making people tape TV on Christmas.

CMLL (TUE) 10/13 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Ebola & Egipcio vs Angelo & Saturno
2) Astaroth & Samurai vs Acertijo & Malefico
3) Angel del Mal & Máscara Mágica vs Gallo & Horus
4) Nosferatu & Vangelis vs Ángel de Oro & Ángel de Plata
5) Héctor Garza, La Máscara, Strong Man vs Naito, Terrible, Yujiro

Tirantes out of AAA, Strong Man debuts in Puebla, AAA action figures

Starting December 1st, the US’s Federal Trade Commission will require all writers on the web to disclose all freebies or payments they get from companies for reviewing their products, in a clear and conspicuous manner, or get a massive fine. Massive fines are not in the luchablog/luchawiki budget this year, so now’s a good time to list all of the people who’ve sent freebies or payments to get their products reviewed on this here site:

I feel much better now. Actually, I do get a freebie, but since I think I’ve never gotten around to reviewing magazines (sorry!), I think I’m good on that. You know, there are sites where this bit would vastly more entertaining. (Not that this has a prayer of being enforced.)

Apparently, both Luchas 2000 and Box Y Lucha say Tiratnes Sr. has left AAA to join Los Perros del Mal. Just like Charly Manson, he was involved in major storyline (though it’ll be easier to remove Tirantes) and was a long time fixture of AAA. Tirantes had been a part of AAA since the very first show they put on, and obviously his son is a referee there too. Of the four AAA referees, Tirantes Sr. was the one who seemed to turn up on TV least in recent years, though he’d always work the major shows and often the main events when they wanted to do a disputed finish (2008’s TripleMania comes to mind.)

I’d always guessed Tirantes had some other backstage role and they were just phasing out of the ring, but maybe he didn’t and being off TV and off spot so much for the feud with the Roldans was costing him too much. All I know is, of the original people who worked on the first AAA show, only Octagon and Pepe Casas have been there the whole time.

CMLL (MON) 10/05 Arena Puebla [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Blue Center & Centella de Oro b Akron & Espiritu Maligno
2) Inquisidor, René Guajardo Jr., Tiger Kid b Guerrero Maya Jr., Sensei, Trueno
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata DQ Nosferatu, Vangelis, Virus
4) La Máscara, Toscano, Valiente b Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Héctor Garza, Shocker, Strong Man b Ray Mendoza Jr., Terrible, Texano

STRONG MAN WIN. Rudos all tried to take out Strong Man, but they were not match. Texano got stretched out after taking a German Suplex to end it. Strong Man, especially if we’re really going with ‘Strong Man’ as his name, should only talk as if he’s the Incredible Hulk. Strong Man SMASH! Strong Man CRUSH! Strong Man HOPE TO FIGHT BETTER THAN RAY MENDOZA JUNIOR!

La Mascara got Sangre Azteca with the campana. I think that record is skipping. DQ in the tercera was for Virus fouling Angel de Oro. Guerrero Maya Jr. took a stretcher ride after Inquisidor’s martinete-lilke finish. Akron debuted, lost.

AAA (SAT) 10/03 Plaza de Toros San Sebastian, Comitan, Chiapas [KrisZ]
1) Mr. Sombra b Guerrero Negro, Nocturno, Rey Violencia, Sombra Maligna [copa prinsu 2009]
2) Harahel b Fuego Nuevo [Chiapas MIDDLE]
3) Lobo Warrior b Gringo Loco, Rastaman, Capitan Furia, Dizzy, Murcy Jr., Grana Man [cage, mask]
4) Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario b Crazy Boy & Extreme Tiger [AAA TAG]
5) El Mesías & Marco Corleone DQ Dr. Wagner Jr. & Electroshock

Rare AAA title defense at a spot show. Not the IWRG Gringo Loco won the cage match, and Lobo Warrior was announced as Brayan Sanchez, 10 years of wrestling, from Comitan.

ESTO hypes tonight’s Arena Mexico card as maybe Villano V getting along with this week’s partners (Terrible, Texnao) better than last week. The special match has five of the 12 in the mask match. With V5 in the main event, I’m thinking good tickets are still available.

As mentioned yesterday, Playmates toys will produce AAA action figures starting in 2010, as well as “role-play masks and play-sets.” Maybe you can buy a Laredo Kid mask and play the role of a guy who never gets out of the first hour. Cibernetico, La Parka, and Octagon are particularity name checked. This is deal done via the previous Cookie Jar deal. Besides all articles inevitably including a picture from a CMLL match, this is the weird part of the press release:

Lucha Libre AAA has been the premier wrestling league in Mexico for over 18 years and enjoys a near 80 per cent share of ticket sales domestically

I’d love to see how they get 80%. Maybe 80% of ticket sales by revenue? Even that’s probably not right. Are they tracking CMLL’s attendance plus tracking AAA attendance and doing the mat, or just making things up? (Ah, there it is.) Also, check my math because I’ve been off lately, but 1992 to 2009 is 17. Anyway, getting back to things that actually matter, if AAA is going to be making their own action figures and their own masks, are they going to be selling them just in stores, or at AAA events? If they sell them at shows, will that mean the current gray market vendors are going to be pushed out? Times are changing.

AAA has notes from the Pena mass. Only non-AAA wrestler name checked as showing was Alebrije. Also, Javi still exists. AAA’s also on the radio tonight at 10 PM, and they’ve got web streaming link.

Record has an interview with Jaque Mate, teasing a longer version in this month’s magazine.

Mr. Niebla threatens STRONG MAN and Super Porky. There’s an idea for a team. Fuego en el Ring also has the third part of their interview with el Vengador, as well as an article on the Occidente Welterweight title and .

El Hijo del Santo talks about the importance of customer service when running a business.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and the link to this week’s Ras de Lona.

Ohtani’s Jacket and Raging Noodles continues in it’s best of 2000s series with Perro Jr. vs Universo 2000’s hair match from 2006.

PIERROTH (THU) 10/29 Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca [EdR]
1) Comodiin, Electroshock, Flama vs Hechicero, Nahualt, Raksas
2) Orito, Pequeño Olímpico, Platita, Último Dragoncito vs Leopardito, Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pierrothito
3) Black Spirit, Canelo Casas, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Cien Caras Jr., Hijo del Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
4) Hijo del Lizmark, LA Park, Nosferatu, Toscano vs Fuerza Guerrera, Head Hunter I, Pierrothito, Veneno

This is the show to honor Pierroth, with a mixture of indy guys and CMLL ones. He’s listed in the main event. He could certainly get away with doing nothing more than standing in the corner for 15 minutes, but even that seems like it’d be an amazing amount for him.

Semimain looks like it’s a match of second generation wrestlers, fake and real. Lost track of if Canelo Casas is supposed to be real or fake at this point.

CMLL announces random 12 man cage mask match for 10/18

If you’re wondering if you missed an angle building this up, well, so I am.

Next Sunday is an Arena Mexico fan appreciation show, and apparently they’re back to trying to fill the house for those shows and those shows only. They’re actually running the cage match on the 18th, so it’s Sunday after this Sunday. It does, in fact, continue using the fan appreciation shows to build up a big match the following week, though this is still super quick.

That gives us this 12 man cage match:

  • Pegasso
  • Tigre Blanco
  • Skandalo
  • Hooligan
  • Ángel de Oro
  • Tiger Kid
  • Rey Cometa
  • Flash
  • Pólvora
  • Dr. X
  • Astro Boy
  • Arkangel

Gut reaction is Tigre Blanco, since we’ve heard the retirement talk and he hasn’t been as active in recent years. The Tuareg guys, even Skandalo, make a little sense. Otherwise, it’s just a random unbuilt up mask match with six thirteen days of build. These guys aren’t scheduled for this Sunday’s card – there’s a trios on Tuesday with some of them, but that’s it.

I’m sure this will totally turn around business.

Volador vs UG for the masks? (nah), hair win in IWRG, new champ in GDL, CMLL to Monaco

CMLL (SUN) 10/04 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Delta & Trueno DQ Semental & Zayco
2) Astro Boy, Metálico, Starman b Calígula, Méssala, René Guajardo Jr.
3) Arkangel de la Muerte, Vangelis, Virus b Dr. X, Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso
4) Blue Panther, Místico, Toscano b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
5) Último Guerrero b Volador Jr.

Volador jumped UG out of the gate, UG beat him up, but Volador still stole the fall. UG won a quick second fall. Both guys did all they could in the third, and Ultimo Guerrero beat him clean with the Guerrero Special for the win. “And then they agreed to a mask match.” Just that easy!’s news says UG challenged and Volador just agreed without thinking about it, but there’s no date and this match shouldn’t be taken seriously unless they actually have a date. Doing an actual meaningful mask vs mask feud in Arena Coliseo is strange and enough to make this highly unlikely.

Speaking of dates, CMLL confirms the Yujiro/Black Warrior match will go down on 10/16. Must’ve taken a couple extra days to agree on the contract language!

IWRG (SUN) 10/04 Arena Naucalpan [Estrella del Ring, Black Terry]
1) Extraño b Dinamic Black
2) Eragon & Imperial DQ Maldito Jr. & Samoa
3) El Hijo del Diablo, Tóxico DF, Veneno b Gemelo Fantastico I, Gemelo Fantastico II, Pendulo
4) Chico Che, Exodia, Mike Segura b Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro
5) Avisman b Gringo Loco [loser advances]
6) Bushi b Avisman [loser advances]
7) Gringo Loco b Avisman [hair]

So, there it is. Proof that Chicago > Naucalpan. I always had a feeling.

I don’t know when they changed the main event to a three way hair match, and they weren’t the only changes on this card, but the story here is Avisman beat Gringo Loco, Bushi beat him, Avisman dominated Gringo Loco in the final match (with both bleeding), but Gringo Loco snuck in a small package for the win.

Kinda worried about what shape Freelance must be after that injury on Thursday. This feels like Avisman had already agreed to lose his hair and probably to Freelance based on that feud, but that they’re not waiting for Freelance to return means he’s out for a while.

Sucidia replaced Rigo, and they went on with the challenge without them. DQ in the second match was for excessive post match violence.

CMLL (SUN) 10/04 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
0) Javier Cruz Jr. b Nube Roja Jr.
1) Metatrón & Nube Roja b Güero Loco & Titanio
2) Angel del Mal b Palacio Negro, Acertijo, Virgo, Saturno, Relampago, El Divino, In Memoria, Meteoro, Thunder Boy [OCCIDENTE WELTER, cibernetico]
3) Hooligan & Loco Max b Fabián el Gitano & Metro
4) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas b Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara

Atlantis got away with a foul on Fantamsa for the pin. Semimain was noteable bad.

Title match came down to Angel del Mal and Saturno, and it’s a slight upset for Satunro to lose. Fuego says the title had been “vacant for over a year”, so whenever Metalik went full time in DF (and before he switched to Mascara Dorada.)

CMLL says they’re sending guys back to Europe – Stuka, Fantasma, Dragon Rojo and Misterioso (instead of Sangre) are headed to Monaco on 10/13, for “a major convention of international television.” Looks like this is Sportel Monaco; CMLL is on between 2:15 and 2:45 on Tuesday, if you’re in Monaco and reading this. This seems about selling the TV in more markets. I’ve got an idea for a market that could use CMLL TV, it’s a bit to your north.

One OEM articles talks up the Xalapa show, but say “AAA gave no exact date”. Maybe they should read the OEM Xalapa paper, which says it’s Friday.

Box Y Lucha teases Tirantes with a Perros del Mal shirt. I’d guess that he’s just running an indy show with multiple promotions (as he’s done before), but I don’t know that for sure.

AAA holds is annual Antonio Pena memorial mass tonight. AAA also has a post asking people what they thought about their new production starting on this past week’s television – did anyone watch it on the stream? Did it look different?

brief notes

CMLL’s news update mentions the Yujiro/Warrior feud, but does not commit to a 10/16 or any specific date. Everyone at the show got the impression it was really soon, so this is unexpected. Nothing following up on the Negro Casas/Angel de Oro story either, just the usual praise for wrestling at a higher level.

Al Filo del Ring has na interview with Kato Kung Lee, who talks about the importance of knowing traditional style before trying to innovate.

Nuevo Dia profiles Sonora local wrestler Xxtruendo.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s latest news update.

Ohtani’s Jacket watches Mil vs Perro Sr. from LA in 1982, as well as other short bits of other lucha libre from the same promotion.

SuperLuchas #334 has Santo vs Demon and Liger vs Mistico.

Next week’s lineups.

Bonus midnight post to mention you’ve still got about 10 hours to buy the Chikara Sampler. GO DO IT.

IWRG (THU) 10/08 Arena Naucalpan
1) Keshin Black vs Halcon 2000
2) Jack & Miss Gaviota vs Epidemia & Heavy Boy
3) Eragon vs Hijo del Signo
4) Bushi, Exodia, Hombre Bala Jr. vs Arlequin Amarillo, Arlequin Rojo, Gringo Loco
5) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro vs Barba Roja, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr.

Main probably should be a title match, but it’s not listed as one yet and AK47 wasn’t around last week to give the challengers the non-title win. Arlequins do reappear, a mild upset. Not sure if Hombre Bala turned when I wasn’t paying attention, or if really deosn’t matter at all. Also don’t know why that singles match going. Do know this has to be a cheap card to put on, labor wise.

CMLL (FRI) 10/09 Arena Mexico
1) Delta & Diamante vs Disturbio & Escorpion
2) Dark Angel, Lluvia, Marcela vs Amapola, Princesa Sujei, Zeuxis
3) Máximo vs Misterioso II [lightning]
4) La Máscara, Sagrado, Valiente vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Sangre Azteca, Virus
5) La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
6) Black Warrior, Shocker, Strong Man vs Naito, Shigeo Okumura, Yujiro

Main event is an odd way to debut Strong Man. No Limit should be winning, and Strong Man should have people to throw around. As is, they’re the better matches, but the top 2 rudo teams kinda should be switched (with Warrior going with Yujiro.)

CMLL (SUN) 10/11 Arena Coliseo
1) Molotov & Principe vs Inquisidor & Semental
2) Leono, Metálico, Tony Rivera vs Apocalipsis, Pólvora, Ramstein
3) Eléctrico, Mascarita Dorada, Pequeño Olímpico vs Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito
4) La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Sagrado vs Felino, Heavy Metal, Sangre Azteca
5) Blue Panther, Shocker, Strong Man vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

Strong Man all over the place. Speaking of people coming in, this week’s Ras de Lona apparently says Steele is returning. Also, I saw a link for a Reforma article talking to Super Porky about his CMLL return, but it was behind their subscriber only window.

CMLL (SUN) 10/11 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Thunder Boy & Virgo vs Idolo & Metatrón
2) Leon Blanco & Samurai vs Egipcio & Magnum
3) Horus & Metal Blanco vs Angel del Mal & Asesino Negro
4) Ángel de Oro & Ángel de Plata vs Euforia & Nosferatu
5) Máximo, Toscano, Volador Jr. vs Ray Mendoza Jr., Terrible, Texano Jr.

On the undercard, we haven’t seen Egipico here in a year, and perhaps that’s a relevos match? Main event should have some Maximo/Texano issues.

IWRG (SUN) 10/11 Arena Naucalpan
1) Imperial vs Extrano
2) Eragon & Star Boy vs Maldito Jr. & Samoa
3) Gemelo Fantastico I & Gemelo Fantastico II vs Fantasma de la Ópera & Gringo Loco
4) Bushi, Negro Navarro, Trauma I vs Avisman, Fantasma de la Ópera, Veneno
5) Chico Che, Exodia, Rigo vs Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro

Again, main event probably should be a title match, and maybe it will be in a week.

SuperLuchas also has the lineups for December Gudalajara shows. I usually don’t bother with lineups that far in advance, because it’s never worth taking lineups too seriously until the week before. These are a little extra notable because it’s their annual Lucha Libre Festival, GDL’s answer to the DF’s Expo. Last year, CMLL ran against the AAA show, but they’re contributing the Friday night show this year. (Main event is a multi-man cage match for a singles title. Dunno how that actually works. Also, since they still may run a loaded show that at ACG on Sunday.)

Saturday is the indy show (where it looks like a Coco will lose his mask), and Sunday is the show that we’d talked about being Sexi vs Fabi. In fact, it’s listed as Sexi & Billy vs Fabi & Aero. The rest of the show is filler stuff – it’s a full AAA show, but it looks more like a spot show than a TV taping, and not even close to a major show lineup. Main is Wagner/Parka vs Silver/Mesias in what looks like a relevos increible match, but there’s nothing of any consequence in the undercard. This is not the Guerra de Titanes show after all.