CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-01-31

Triton Special

Recapped: 02/02/2017

What happened:  Rey Bucanero unmasked Stuka to set up a singles match next week (even if Bucanero doesn’t want it.) Casas family maintained a hegemony over the Panther family with another win. I remembered the world hegemony and used it correctly in a sentence.

What was good: The Casas/Panther trios match is as good as it every time, but though I liked the 01/06 bout better. On this show, I actually thought the Raziel/Triton was the best (or at least fresher) match up, but the crowd did not care at all about that one and got into the family trios much more.

Where can I watch it: It’s on YouTube. Read More

CMLL Puebla: 2017-01-30

good summary of this show

Recapped: 02/02/2017

What happened: Not much. Los Ingobernables fouled and unmasked Diamante Azul for the main event DQ, and that’s about it.

What was good: The opener was the match I enjoyed the most. The rest of the show seemed like lesser version of matches seen elsewhere or just not interesting.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel and a few matches will air in a couple weekends on 52MX Read More

Bucanero cheats Stuka, AAA La Llave a la Gloria, Elite announces vague plan to do something

photo by CMLL

CMLL (SUN) 02/05/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, Domingos Familares]
1) Quca b Avispón Negro Jr.
Quca took 1/3.
2) Cosmos & Johnny Dinamo b Destello & Destructor
tecnicos took 2/3
3) El Alteño, El Divino, Reycko b Carlo Roggi, Demonio Rojo, Thunder Boy
Alteno replaced Nautilius. Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Mágico, Magnum, Vaquero Jr. b Difunto, Maléfico, Rey Trueno
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Frezzer & Furia Roja DCOR Joker & Sádico [super libre]
hair match challenges followed (setting up a double hair match next week.) Joker & Sadico appear to be the crowd favorites of the two rudo teams.

Difunto is a new name here (and does not appear to be the Monterrey one.) He did the Espectro entrance, being brought to the ring in a coffin and rising from the dead. It’s more pageantry and a bigger spot than locals usually get here (and interesting that they’re trying things at all.)

CMLL (TUE) 02/07/2017 Arena México [CMLL, SuperLuchas]
1) Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico b Acero & Aéreo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Oro Jr., Pegasso, Starman b Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Metálico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Starman’s first match since October. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Cancerbero, Sagrado, Virus b Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cancerbero replaced Skandalo. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Hechicero, Misterioso Jr., Vangellys b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Soberano replaced Johnny Idol on Friday. Rudos took 1/3.
5) Rey Bucanero b Stuka Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Stuka worked despite being injured the day before (and was the better guy in the match.) Bucanero took 2/3 used the the ropes to get the pin.
6) Carístico, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3. Mr. Niebla replaced Negro Casas on Friday

It sounds like Stuka put on a one man performance in his match and that might be worth watching.

A recap of Dragon Lee’s recent matches in NJPW ends with a mention that Lee will be there more frequently in upcoming months. My guess that he’d be going to NJPW full time looks wrong, but it seems like he’ll be going back whatever happens on Saturday’s title match. Shueisha also has a two part interview with Dragon Lee about his feud with Takahashi. Dragon Lee admits he has no idea if he’ll win or not in their title match this weekend, but guarantees it’ll be interesting.

AAA, Roshfrans and Record announced La Llave a la Gloria, a talent search competition. Aspiring luchadors, 15 to 45, can send in their information by February 22, and will get to participate a tryout on February 25. The winner will participate on TripleMania. (I’d assume that means a match, but it’s worded in a way where it could just be waving to the crowd as part of a sponsor segment.)

This is similar to the Quien Pinta Para La Corona AAA talent search in 2011 and 2012. That one was more nationwide search, where they held events at various cities around the country, with the best being invited to Mexico City for the finals, and one women, man and mini would win. The 2011 winners were La Magnifica, Daga and Dinastia (with Samuray del Sol/Kalisto and Lucky Boy/Venum two of the notable runner ups.) The 2012 winners were La Jarochita, Saturno and Rey Celestial. That first year went better than the second year, but I’m skeptical how much this helped AAA actually find talent. Daga was known to AAA, known to anyone who followed Mexican wrestling, and actually appeared on TV (as Rocco) in between qualifying for the finals and winning the whole thing. He was getting picked up by AAA win or loss. I don’t know that he was in the competition as a ringer, but he wasn’t found by the talent search. You could say the same thing about Dinastia, who was a regular in DTU while they were working with AAA, had already had a Japan tour, and is a relative of Super Crazy; he is great, but he was not some undiscovered gem who would’ve only been found by this contest. La Magnifica wasn’t around AAA much – I believe she left wrestling to have a child soon after the competition, and then wasn’t much booked much when she came back. The second group of winners didn’t do much better, with only Jarochita being booked even semi-regularly. (You have to look hard for the Saturno and Rey Celestial AAA TV bookings.) The success of this competition is probably dependent on which high level indie talent they get to participate.

That’s an issue. Getting notable/capable luchadors to participate a tough situation in the current AAA climate. The first comments on Facebook (since deleted) were people joking about how sending in your character name to AAA means AAA is going to trademark them all. (I don’t think they’d do it for all of them, but there’s no mention of that issue that’s at the top of everyone’s minds – there’s no real long legal section like you’d normally see for a contest.) Beyond the name issue, I think there’s word out among the top indie guys that AAA is not a place where you want to be tied to at the moment, given what’s happened with La Rebelion and others leaving. If you’re an indie luchador who has the talent or name to make it someplace, The Crash or even Elite are still out there to aspire to join. They may not being better more successful than AAA in the long run, but they don’t have the baggage AAA does at this moment.

I have no doubt AAA will have a lot of people at this tryout on the 25th, because you might as well give it as shot if you’re a lower level guy just who doesn’t have a name and really wants to make it in a main promotion. The higher end talent who might have given this a try a few years ago seem less likely to give a shot. AAA really does only need 1 really great person to make this a success, but they also have to find and select that one person, and their own recent AAA additions haven’t been strong selections. An AAA who’s added Dave the Clown and Big Mami in 2016 may not make the greatest pick in 2017. If I was AAA, I’d follow that model from 2011 and “encourage” a safe pick to sign up so AAA knows they’ll have someone they like at the end, but I’m not confident about AAA’s ability to make a good safe pick right now.

Ideally, AAA makes contact with a lot of new promising people, because they could use a lot of new wave of people to make people forget about the wave of people who are going out the door. The problem is what AAA really needs more is new big stars, and a reason people are leaving are because of AAA’s inability into making people big stars in Mexico. The past years of this competition didn’t help with that either, Daga and Dinasita didn’t advance much more from the day they joined AAA to where they ended up in 2017. They’ll have to do better with the next group.

+LuchaTV had a new EN+CARADOS podcast, including an interview with Zorro. Zorro said he left AAA for his own reasons, separate from La Rebelion, but they seem to come from the same place: he was frustrated with his spot in AAA for a while and wanted to try something else. He told Joaquin Roldan he was leaving after the taping in Toluca, and Joaquin was surprised. Zorro says he planned on working his announced dates but it sounds like that won’t happen now that the word is out about him leaving. He hopes Scoria & Cuervo get a good new partner to replace him because they deserve it. I’m not even sure who would that be out of the current roster.

Zorro’s departure from AAA also comes up in Leo Riano’s column, who mentions Zorro was getting the same run around as Garza (promoters asking for him were told he wasn’t available), and is certain Marisela Roldan didn’t know anything about this. Riano’s trying to protect the Roldans as innocent, but he’s actually making them seem clueless about what’s going on in their own business. It also comes off as though the person in charge of bookings spot shows is much more valuable than the luchadors, since they keep going and he isn’t.

Elite resurfaced with an image promoting a Night of Champions. (I’ll give you until the end of this paragraph to remember who are the Elite champions.) There’s no date, there’s no location, there’s really nothing at all to go on, but it’s the first time Elite’s said anything in about month and a half. They did tag Azteca7 in their tweet, for what it’s worth. Bigger indie shows for early March are starting to be announced (see below), so Elite probably ought to have that date/location stuff worked out by now if they’re really running in late February, as Golden Magic mentions on the +Lucha podcast. Elite seems to wait until the last minute to announce things so maybe not having hard info yet means it’s business as normal.

The Elite champions, at least check, are Heavyweight champion cibernetico, Middleweight champion Caristico and Welterwegiht champion Bandido. Caristico won the Liga Elite and Michael Elgin won their international tournament, but no idea if those are meant to be defended. I suspect any Night of Champions will include 1 to 3 more titles being randomly added. Zorro might also make sense for this group now, though there’s been nothing hinted along those lines.

Lucha Memes 02/19 in Coliseo Coacalco
1: Totem I & II vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako 
2: Ronnie Mendoza vs Hechicero
3: Diva Salvaje & Demasiado vs Baby Star & Black Metal
4: Astrolux vs Demus 3:16
5: Yoshi Tatsu vs Aramis
6: Belial vs Virus – yes! I’m very excited for this one.
Two more matches to come, both of which should be title matches

NPR’s All Things Considered has a story on Sam Adonis and his pro-Trump gimmick. The comments from the Mexican fans make the story for me – they just seem him as a caricature who’s entertaining to watch lose, not someone with actual malice.

ESPN Deportes now has a Lucha Libre section. It’s mostly WWE stories, but it has the Atlantis story from earlier this week (and a Marco one earlier I missed) and might mean more to come.

On Instagram, Rey Fenix talks about his decision to leave AAA.

CultIcon writes about Atlantis vs Sombra.

There will be a benefit lucha show on 02/19 in Texcoco for a local paralympic school.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.


CMLL (TUE) 02/14/2017 Arena México
1) Shockercito & Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Magia Blanca, Marvel, Sangre Imperial vs Grako, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
3) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma vs Okumura, Skándalo, Virus
4) Pegasso vs Disturbio [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

This is a lesser version of the usual not that interesting Tuesday show, with the tercera and lightning match not as promising as usual. Trios champions against a random tecnico trio again in the main event.

CMLL (TUE) 02/14/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mágico & Nautilius vs León Blanco & Relámpago
2) Magnum, Príncipe Diamante, Starman vs Cancerbero, Canelo Casas, Difunto
3) Blue Panther Jr., Drone, The Panther vs Cavernario, Puma, Tiger
4) Diamante Azul vs Pierroth
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Azul/Pierroth happening, and maybe as a test run for running in Arena Mexico later. At least the match before and after are better (and note Dragon Lee is back a few days after the tour.)

AULL (WED) 03/01/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Príncipe Mexica & Tigre De Oro vs Rey Inmortal & Violento
2) Hijo De Ciclón Ramírez, Mike Segura, Súper Astro Jr. vs Holkan, Impulso, Ironía
3) Gallo Tapado Jr., Hijo de Máscara Sagrada, Hijo del Solar vs Hijo de LA Park, Hijo de Zumbido, Hijo del Fishman
4) Golden Magic vs Laredo Kid, Imposible, Extreme Tiger, Sádico
5) LA Park & Rey Escorpión vs Daga & Penta Zero M

Years ago, Arena Lopez Mateos Wednesday shows used to be regular deals. I suspect this one is simply happening because they couldn’t get Penta Zero M on a weekend.

Cara Lucha (FRI) 03/03/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Astrolux & Torito Negro vs Black Metal & Moria
2) Keira & Lady Maravilla vs ? & Chik Tormenta
3) Sky Man vs Saturno [MUCHAS LUCHAS CHAMP]
4) Glen Calavera & Jerry Calavera vs Brian Villa & Willy Banderas and Corsario Negro & Drako and Crazy King & Makabre [super libre]
5) Demus 3:16 & Yoruba vs Black Terry & Toxin [Juventud y Gloria, semifinal]
6) Hijo de LA Park & LA Park vs Black Tauro (Elite) & Daga

An odd main event. Not just for the participants, but, as @vyrassa pointed out on Twitter, this is the same day Alberto & LA Park agreed to a hair vs mask match. As everyone knew, including those two guys, that match isn’t happening.

I can’t get over that the skeleton brothers names are Glen and Jerry.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-28 

Australian Suicide

Recapped: 02/01/2017

What happened: Averno & Chessman got a cheap victory over the Apaches yet again. The slight difference this time it was the Xinetez who helped them, either turning back rudo or remaining rudo the entire time but having a mystery plan. Aerostar & Super Fly were the final two in a cage match and will meet at Rey de Reyes in a mask/hair match.

AAA did their best to edit Daga out from existence in the cage match.

There’s a tremendous amount of time spent on video packages to start the show and a replay the Psycho/Wagner press conference. If you’re not interested in all of that, you need to

What was good: Both matches were better than expected but neither was satisfying.

Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel.

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2016 watch later catch up, part 13 of 13

be careful with your purses near Diablo

In this post

  • Rayo Star © vs Sky Man [Mucha Luchas SUPREMO], Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 08/20/2016 
  • El Hijo del Diablo vs Blatck Terry hair vs hair, Arena Naucalpan, 10/23/2016 
  • Puma King & Tiger Casas vs Neza Kid & Ronnie Mendoza, Arena Neza, 12/17/2016 
  • Leo, Mike, Rafy © vs Cerebro Negro, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro for the Mexico State Tag Team Championship, Arena Naucalpan, 12/21/2016 

And that’s it. I don’t plan on doing any more 2016 stuff (outside of Lucha Underground matches.) I’ve updated the 2016 MOTYC list one last time. By my count, I wrote about 1390 lucha matches  (up from 1194 last year), 109 (8%) were rated Great, 24 (2%) were rated Excellent. I don’t know what those numbers mean, but I’m fairly certain they are numbers. 

Rayo Star © vs Sky Man [Mucha Luchas SUPREMO]
Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 08/20/2016
FollingDTRUDO VISION+LuchaTVEstrellas del Ring

  1. Sky Man headscissors into seated toe hold (2:33)

  2. Rayo Star top rope frankensteiner (4:42)

  3. Sky Man Spanish Fly (7:01)

Winner: Sky Man
Match Time: 14:16

Review: [good] an athletic match, which is to be expected with these two guys, and one without a lot of serious errors, which is better than expected for these guys. Still, it seemed a slower match than usual, with a lot of time setting up spots and not a lot of build. They two big near falls before the finish were kind of more impressive than the finish itself, but those too suffered from spots being done for the reason than it was that guys’ turn. They can play a lot of great notes but still haven’t grasped how to put a song together (and don’t have someone to help them.) This was far smoother than expected with these guys, but they need to regularly work with better guys to take the next step up.

double rotation headscissors
of course there’s a balcony dive with these two
well timed lo mein pain

El Hijo del Diablo vs Black Terry for the hair
Arena Naucalpan, 10/23/2016
Estrellas del Ring+LuchaTV+LuchaTVIWRG tv

  1. Black Terry nudo (2:21)

  2. DQ Black Terry [excessive violence] (3:59)

  3. Hijo del Diablo martinete (10:13)

Winner: Hijo del Diablo (2/3)
Match Time: 16:33
Notes: Acero hands Diablo a guitar about nine minutes into the third fall, which he swings at Terry but hits the referee instead. Terry fouls Diablo walks around a bit, then covers. A second referee comes in, but Diablo kicks out at two. Acero distracts the referee, and Diablo gives Terry a martinete for the win.

Review: [good] It’s at this point where I can’t totally remember if I’ve seen this before, or if I just saw Diablo throwing the purse into the stands in clips. I don’t remember seeing the guitar bit before. This match, at least this time didn’t work for me. Terry destroys Diablo with brawling that didn’t always look good, but was so one sided that Terry came off like the rudo. Only, Diablo’s clearly the rudo in the end. It also felt a long and slower than the match needed, and it’s only affect was to get both guys to bleed (but the match went long enough that blood was dried by the time they got to the end.) I’m not sure how Diablo isn’t disqualified for hitting the first referee when he wakes up after the match. This was good but nothing to go out your way to see.

devastating plywood
referee is more blinded than hurt by the guitar wrapped around his head

Puma King & Tiger Casas vs Neza Kid & Ronnie Mendoza
Arena Neza, 12/17/2016
Adrian Martinez

Winner: Ronnie & Neza (Ronnie Spanish Fly TIger)
Match Time: 8:32 (joined in progress)

Review: [good] a medium level sprint; it’s better than you’d expect given the 5% attendance turnout but still something well short of the biggest/bestest match with all these four guys. (The ever mysterious Neza Kid doesn’t take out any seats with his dive.) The CMLL cats seem to flow better with Ronnie than Neza Kid, but the match is at a good level whichever guys is in it. There’s just not a lot to this one. Another good match but not anything you need to go out of you way to see.

a nice moonsault by the mysterious Neza Kid
Tiger roll counter dropkick

Leo, Mike, Rafy © vs Cerebro Negro, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro for the Mexico State Tag Team Championship
Arena Naucalpan, 12/21/2016
thecubsfanEstrellas del Ring

  1. rudos

    • Oficial Fierro powerbomb Leo (7:09)

    • Cerebro Negro floataround DDT Rafy (7:14)

  2. Tortuga Ninja

    • Leo huracanrana Fierro (4:18)

    • Rafy huracanrana AK47 (4:18)

    • Mike Cerebro huracanrana Negro (4:18)

  1. Tortuga Ninja

    • Mike splash Fierro (5:11)

    • Leo inside cradle Cerebro Negro (5:15)

    • Rafy inside cradle AK47 (5:15)

Winner: Tortuga Ninjas (2/3)
Match Time: 16:47

Review: [good] an entertaining comedy match, with the Turtles getting in some of their usual spots and playing off other ones. It never hits a competitive level for a great title match, but it’s solidly entertaining match with the rudos stooging around and the Turtles looking unbeatable when they have things going their way. I didn’t watch nearly enough 2016 Ninja Turtles but it’s nice to end with an easy to watch match.

Tortgua loose into the crowd
hiptosses for everyone
Teelo on a roll

Diamante Azul/Rush in Puebla, Bucanero/Stuka? tonight, Yoshi Tatsu in Coacalco

CMLL (MON) 02/06/2017 Arena Puebla [CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva]
1) El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, Perverso b Arkalis, Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Dalys, La Seductora, Zeuxis b La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Okumura, Puma, Tiger b Drone, Esfinge, Soberano Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla b Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Mr. Niebla replaced Negro Casas. Stuka was stretchered off after a knee injury.
5) Diamante Azul, Euforia, Valiente DQ Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles] LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush fouled Azul.

Third match is the match worth watching on the show.

Stuka appeared to be hurt on a plancha in the second fall of his match. That’s an issue more than usual because Stuka’s getting a rare three fall singles match tonight against Rey Bucanero. We’ve seen guys leave matches with injuries and then show up fine soon after, but this is a quick turnaround in what looked like it would be a tough match normally. CMLL hasn’t said anything about Stuka being replaced, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be a sub. (Stuka’s also weirdly booked in Guadalajara too, and someone’s definitely replacing him.)

There’s also got to be something up with Negro Casas, since Niebla’s replacing him in multiple places this week. That includes the main event tonight, with Niebla teaming with Felino & Ultimo Guerrero versus Carsitico, Maximo and Volador Jr. in the usual go home happy main event. There’s some maybe good stuff in the middle of the card. Drone, Guerrero Maya, and Soberano face Hechicero, Misterioso and Vangellys, and the Panthers & Stigma take on Skandalo, Virus, and Sagrado. The second match of the doomed is Oro Jr., Pegasso and Starman against Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo and Metalico; we’re spared Arkangel this week. The partnership of Acero & Aereo, who really need a team name, take on Pequeno Nitro & Pequeno Olimpico.

CultIcon has a preview. The show airs on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 7:30pm.

Guadalajara has a main event for the national trios titles, with the Hijo del Infiernos against Atlantis, Angel de Oro and Titan. A title change would be a surprise but can’t be totally ruled out.

Black Terry Jr. has photos from Sunday’s DTU show in Tulancingo. They seem to have drawn very well.

ESPN Mexico had a nicely lengthy interview with Atlantis. Not a lot of new info about his career but it’s a good recap. His sons come up. He’s got two, one 20, one 18. Both trained with Ringo Mendoza for a few years, but the older one is interested in other things besides lucha libre. The younger one was the one seen at Arena Coliseo but is also years away from debuting. Atlantis wants to retire someday with zero warning, which is the way I want to go too.

Lucha Memes 02/19 in Coliseo Coacalco
1: Totem I & II vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako 
2: Ronnie Mendoza vs Hechicero
3: Diva Salvaje & Demasiado vs Baby Star & Black Metal
4: Astrolux vs Demus 3:16
5: Yoshi Tatsu vs Aramis 

Lucha Memes promoter Dhani had to put up a video explaining why they were bringing in Tatsu and not Liger or Tanahashi, which seems like a ridiculously thing to have to answer. (They’re bringing in Tatsu because he’s in Mexico thru CMLL and the only way to get people from NJPW is when CMLL brings them in.) He does say Tatsu is in Mexico for only two weeks, which is going to crush the hopes and dreams of the NJPW fans and I could not be happier.

03/31 Revolution Pro (in Orlando) has Zack Sabre Jr. vs Penta el Zero M

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and this week’s Lucha Report.

Lucha Va Voom’s promoters talk about reaching 15 years of running the company with this weekend’s Lucha Va Voom show.

Box Y Lucha 3270 has Diamante Azul on the cover.

Telemundo Dallas has a story about an aspiring local luchador who doubles as a painter.


CMLL (MON) 02/13/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja & Flyer vs Ares & Guerrero Espacial
2) Asturiano & Black Tiger vs Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr.
3) Lestat & Rey Samuray vs Disturbio & Policeman
4) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma vs Okumura, Pólvora, Sagrado, Skándalo, Virus [cibernetico]
5) Rush vs Diamante Azul
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, La Máscara, Negro Casas

Rush/Diamante Azul was awful last time and Puebla probably won’t make it better. Main event looks good (if Casas is there and not replaced by Niebla) and the cibernetico should be fun.

MDA (SUN) 03/05/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) La Chocolata & Sexy Piscis vs Chica de Arabia & La Gaviota
2) Babe Fox & Extreme Boy vs Gallardo & Mini Bengalí
3) Tekilita & the Tiger (Tamaulipas) vs Faceman & Vazco Jr.
4) Hijo de LA Park & Quinto Elemento vs Galactar & Ninja Jr.
5) LA Park, Masada (Texas), Rush vs Carlito, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Hernandez

That’s a very strange main event with guys who don’t exactly make sense together, but these shows seem to be more about names than good matches.

new lucha videos for the weekend of February 3rd, 2017

I didn’t get AAA this week because of a recording issue, but it’s already up on their YouTube channel.

YouTube playlist: Cloud Drive

02/04 & 02/05 WWC: Cloud Drive

02/04 Elite (best of episode): Cloud Drive

CMLL on 2017-02-03
Cloud Drive – matches 1 and 3 did not record complete
taped 2017-02-03 @ Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Shockercito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. vs Disturbio, Okumura, Virus
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
4) Titán vs Cavernario in a lightning match
5) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-02-04
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-01-23 @ Arena Puebla
1) Esfinge, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
2) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Diamante Azul vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
3) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs La Máscara, Máscara Año 2000, Vangellys

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-02-04
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-01 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Odín & Shadow Boy vs Araña de Plata & Keiser Dragón
2) Alfa, Aramis, Omega vs Adrenalina, Avisman, Diablo Jr.
3) Black Dragón, Dragón Fly, Pantera I vs Hip Hop Man, Mosca (Argentina), Pibe Alfajor
4) Chicano, Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Eterno

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-02-06
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-05 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón & Dragón Fly vs Hip Hop Man & Pibe Alfajor
2) Eterno vs Demonio Infernal
3) Cerebro Negro © vs Mosca (Argentina) for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship
4) Danny Casas, Dr. Cerebro, Villano IV vs Herodes Jr., Negro Navarro, X-Fly
5) Mr. Electro & Pirata Morgan vs Golden Magic & Pirata Morgan Jr. in a relevos suicidas match

2016 Lucha Libre Win/Loss Records

I got these done a little earlier than usual, but then I’ve been busy with other posts.

Year (2009 on) Shows Matches
2009: 2368 shows, 10169 matches (+9 events from last year)
2010: 2590 shows, 11270 matches (+10)
2011: 2721 shows, 12044 matches (+17)
2012: 2890 shows, 13147 matches (+69)
2013: 2840 shows, 13419 matches (+116)
2014: 5551 shows, 25264 matches (+1)
2015: 6381 shows, 28863 matches (+56)
2016: 7032 shows, 31988 matches

Please note that I’ve already found at least one more 2016 since writing this post. No way the year total 7000 again any time soon. We’re on a pace for about 6000 right now. The increase is mostly because KrisZ was searching for posters, isn’t now, and surely is better for them. Promoters are getting slightly better about just uploading a card, but wrestlers are terrible at and so a lot of stuff will be missed. There’s probably a point where all this information isn’t even useful in bulk, and that’s likely a point I passed long ago.

All this date is available on here, if anyone needs it.

Most Matches

2008: Ultimo Guerrero (228)
2009: La Parka Jr. (211)
2010: Mistico (204)
2011: Último Guerrero & La Mascara (188)
2012: Último Guerrero (189)
2013: Último Guerrero (205)
2014: Atlantis (215)
2015: Atlantis (207)
2016: Atlantis (217)

217 Atlantis
216 Máximo
216 Último Guerrero
210 Volador Jr.
194 La Máscara
191 Psycho Clown
189 Mistico II
182 Valiente
171 Rush
169 Mephisto

Psycho Clown is the real notable inclusion. AAA luchadors never make it in this list. They seem to work less regularly and their lineups are harder to fine. Those AAA lineups turned up more in 2016, and the fewer AAA main eventers meant Psycho Clown was working a lot. The most in 2015 for AAA was Pentagon Jr. at 144, so that’s an increase of a month full of matches. Pagano, Monster and Murder Clown are all grouped around at 157.We will all be long gone from this world, not even a memory, and Atlantis will still be wrestling 200 matches a year. Still, Atlantis might only be the top of the list because Volador was in NJPW for three weeks. These numbers are never completely accurate and always missing small shows that aren’t advertised anywhere online (or maybe anywhere at all when it comes to CMLL private shows); the top four probably should thought of as a tie.

Aeroboy had the most of luchadors who were primarily indie wrestlers at 126. (Mascara Sagrada Jr. is technically higher, but it’s either the two different sons getting billed with the same name, or the ex-AAA wrestler and usual Billy Boy partner using the name too.)

Most Wins

2008: Blue Panther (97)
2009: Mistico (110)
2010: Mistico (128)
2011: Ultimo Guerrero (90)
2012: Atlantis (93)
2013: La Mascara (102)
2014: Atlantis (99)
2015: Volador Jr. (113)
2016: Volador Jr. (120)

120 Volador Jr.
101 Atlantis
093 Máximo
093 Mistico II
093 Valiente
086 Último Guerrero
085 Stuka Jr.
079 Carístico
079 Marco Corleone
074 Ángel de Oro

It’s the usual CMLL top 10, almost all tecnicos and one Ultimo Guerrero. Psycho Clown led AAA luchadors with 44, which illustrates the reporting difference between the two main promotions. If he was a CMLL wrestler, he’d be one behind Puma and tied with Astral. Trauma I is just behind with 43 wins. Flyer won 48 times, which tells you a lot about how much wins mean in CMLL.

Most Losses

2008: Averno (84)
2009: Negro Casas (86)
2010: Negro Casas (75)
2011: La Mascara (72)
2012: Ultimo Guerrero (79)
2013: Ultimo Guerrero (84)
2014: Ultimo Guerrero (82)
2015: Ultimo Guerrero (80)
2016: Ultimo Guerrero (91)


91 Último Guerrero
84 Mephisto
80 La Máscara
72 Máximo
68 Euforia
67 Negro Casas
67 Volador Jr.
67 Ephesto
65 Rush
64 Terrible

And this is the usual inverse to the wins list: rudos who wrestled a bunch, and tecnicos who wrestled the most. (Atlantis is just off the list at 63.) Next time UG’s on Informa, someone should ask him about having the most loses in lucha libre five years running. I bet that’ll go great.

Mamba won 11, lost 44 (most of AAA), had 1 draw and had 83 matches without a confirmed result. Trauma I & Emperador Azteca both have 36 losses, the most in indies, because they were in places where results turn up.

Best Win % (with at least 10 known results)

2008: Psycho Clown & Zombie Clown (100%)
2009: Psycho Circus (100%)
2010: Tondar (GDL) (100%)
2011: Mini Monster Clown (90%)
2012: Rayo de Oro (Guatemala) (97%)
2013: Tinieblas Jr. (90%)
2014: William Rock/Pequeno Violencia (92%)
2015: Súper Muñeco (93%)

84.62% Huracán Ramírez
83.33% Sky Kid
81.08% Electrico
80.95% Octagón
80.00% Avispón Negro Jr.
80.00% Miss Gaviota
80.00% Gemelo Muerte I
80.00% Matanza
79.63% Astral
79.41% Pimpinela Escarlata

“Huracan Ramirez” is multiple people using the same name.  Avispón Negro Jr. is a Arena Coliseo Guadalajara opening match tecnico who’s never been in angle. Matanza’s numbers only include Lucha Underground matches which have aired so far.

Worst loss % (with at least 10 known results)

2008: Carrona (0%)
2009: Espectrito (0%)
2010: Metailk II (GDL) (11%)
2011: Akron (13%)
2012: Mini Talisman (8%)
2013: Estrella De Fuego (5%)
2014: Psicosis I/Nicho el Millionario (0%)
2015: Lady Shani (5%)


10.53% Nahual (Morelos)
12.50% Paranoiko
13.04% Pequeño Universo 2000
15.63% Mr. Apolo (Jalisco)
16.28% Pequeño Nitro
16.67% Power Bull
16.67% Mariposa
17.07% Lady Shani
17.65% El Chacal (Jalisco)
17.86% Último Gladiador

Nahual is part of a trio with locals Hechicero & Raksas in Cuernavaca. Mr. Apolo is Avispon’s rudo opposite, though they don’t seem to have faced all that much (and Apolo hasn’t been around since November.) Power Bull mostly shows up IWRG FILL shows. Poor Mariposa picked up losses in the Lucha World Cup too. Hooray for Shani getting a modicum of wins in 2016.


IWRG results (Argentina wins), Puebla preview

IWRG (SUN) 02/05/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Araña de Plata b Aramis
Arana de Plata declared himself #1 contender to Relampago for the middleweight title
2) Black Dragón & Dragón Fly b Hip Hop Man & Pibe Alfajor
3) Eterno DRAW Demonio Infernal
both guys submitted each other at the same time
4) Mosca (Argentina) b Cerebro Negro © [IWRG IC WELTER]
Mosca won the title. Arana de Plata was Cerbero’s second, but purposefully hit him with a chair to set up Mosca’s win. Arana de Plata unmasked to reveal it was actually Hip Hop Man under the mask. Cerebro Negro loses the title on this second defense.
5) Danny Casas, Dr. Cerebro, Villano IV b Herodes Jr., Negro Navarro, X-Fly
Villano IV submited Negro Navarro. Danny Casas replaced Heddi Karoaui.
6) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. © DQ Trauma I [IWRG Rey del Ring]
Second defense. (Estrellas del Ring has Mascara 2000 Jr. winning the IWRG Juniors title instead?) Negro Navarro got caught hitting Mascara to cause his son to win.
7) Mr. Electro & Pirata Morgan b Golden Magic & Pirata Morgan Jr. [relevos suicidas]
Mr. Electro beat Golden Magic, then Pirata Morgan defeated his son. Pirata Jr. & Golden Magic will have an apuesta match on 02/12. The Piratas beat up Golden Magic after the match, with Herodes Jr., Mascara 2000 Jr. and Mr. Electro trying to make the save. Villano IV and Negro Navarro attacked them. Pirata said Villano IV and Navarro were now together as Los Consagrados.

Negro Navarro, Villano IV and Pirata Morgan against Herodes Jr., Mascara 2000 Jr. and Mr. Electro is not a feud for me. On the other hand, everyone’s going to show up to yell at Golden Magic again next week and that’ll be fun. Pretty strong evil plan for Hip Hop Man.

Today’s Arena Puebla show has a promising tercera. Puma, Tiger and Okumura take on Drone, Soberano and Esfinge. The Casas kids are usually good, Drone & Soberano are usually good, and the other guys can usually be pulled along in good matches.

The rest of the show, I’m not sure about. the main event is Rush, Volador and Pierroth against Diamante Azul, Euforia and Valiente. The Diamante Azul & Pierroth feud was dreadful on Friday. They’ve got better people around them but it’s also a Monday ngith in Puebla. Maximo, Stuka and Titan versus Negro Casas, Felino and Cavernario could be a good match, but it’s probably more likely an easy crowd friendly match. The women are in the segunda, with Vaquerita, Jarochita and Marcela against Dalys, Zeuxis and Seductora. The six random people picked for the opener are Arkalis, Hijo de Centella Roja (first match without his father), Meyer versus Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, and Perverso. Chicana’s been around forever, but the others are young guys who might be motivated to do something.

CultIcon has a preview of the show. The show airs on CMLL’s YouTube at 9pm.

AMW says their show of random indie matches will now be on Green TV, Saturdays on 9pm. The channel does stream free on the internet (and AMW started to put up their episodes.) It’s unclear when that starts; they’re not on the website’s schedule right now. The promotion was airing on EfektoTV until the end of the year, but had been in reruns for months. There was an AMW show this weekend, so they might have new content whenever they turn up.

La Rebelion are going to Monterrey on 02/20 for a a fan meeting.

Psycho Clown & Pagano are coming to New York on 03/25 (which is a different show from Psycho Clown coming on 02/18.)

MedioTiempo writes about the Pentagon/Fenix trademark situation.

great match roundup, week of 2017-01-21

The last two weeks of FansticaMania meant I liked a lot. Still searching for the first Excellent match but a lot of Good matches all around. Even in AAA! I think this the fewest percentage of matches below the cut line since I’ve started to do this.

Down to four shows a week, which means I’m going to try and make doing a bonus recap/catchup as part of the rotation, but we’ll see. Just catching up on recaps this point was a pain.

Good or better matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Atlantis vs Rush NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
great Máximo Sexy © vs Hechicero for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
great Mistico vs Euforia NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
great Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
great Mephisto © vs Carístico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship Mephisto © vs Carístico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscara de Bronce vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscara de Bronce vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown (posted by thecubsfan) Lucha inicial de Chilpancingo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Enero 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21 2016-12-17
good Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Súper Fly Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Súper Fly (posted by thecubsfan) Lucha semifinal desde Chilpancingo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Enero 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21 2016-12-17
good Stuka Jr. vs Okumura NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Kushida, Ryusuke Taguchi, Soberano Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Okada, Will Ospreay NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good David Finlay, Dragón Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson, Titán vs Bushi, EVIL, Hiromu Takahashi, Naito, Sanada NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Mistico & Volador Jr. vs Euforia & Último Guerrero NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Jushin Liger, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask vs Hechicero, Okumura, Raziel NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Dragón Lee & Titán vs Bushi & Hiromu Takahashi NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Juice Robinson, Máximo Sexy, Ryusuke Taguchi vs Ephesto, Okada, Will Ospreay NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Atlantis, David Finlay, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kushida vs EVIL, Naito, Rush, Sanada NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Pegasso, Stigma, Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, VirusLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-01-24 2017-01-24
good Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Ripper, Sam Adonis, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-01-24 2017-01-24
good Shockercito & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio Shockercito & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27

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