CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-07-18 

Gran Guerrero puts a stop to Titan

Recapped: 07/20/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico


Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia beat Angelito & Fantasy
(11:56 [4:41, 3:43, 3:32], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Akuma, Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico beat Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Robin  
(15:42 [6:15, 3:15, 6:12], 1/3, ok, via 

Fuego, Oro Jr., Pegasso beat Disturbio, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
(10:51 [3:06, 3:41, 4:04], 2/3, ok, via

Vangellys beat Johnny Idol in a lightning match
(5:41, northern lights suplex, ok, via

Gran Guerrero, Hechicero, Negro Casas beat Rey Cometa, Titán, Valiente
(13:06 [5:05, 3:42, 4:19], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Mistico
(13:23 [5:16, 2:17, 5:50], 1/3, ok, via

What happened: 

Angelito frog splash

Rey Bucanero started a feud with Angel de Oro in the main event.

Johnny Idol clearly had his foot on the ropes on the finishing northern lights suplex pin. CMLL referees are usually reluctant to count pins if someone’s not completely down, but the referee ignored the foot on the ropes here. Idol made sure to point it out, even though it felt like the finish and that he was not actually supposed to do that.

This opener was Angelito’s return after being gone for more than a year. Angelito took a package piledriver from Mercurio as the finish to the opener and went in spasms. They cut away from the ring for a long time and Angelico was quickly being stretchered out when they came back. There was no update and the fans and the promotion treated it like it was nothing important. He continued on with his normal schedule.


Pegasso special

Easy show to skip.

The main event was sufficient if not special. Mistico & Caristico are a fun team. I’m interested if Rey Bucanero will be as good with Angel de Oro as he was with Hechicero (which seems unlikely when I type it like that.) You can skip this though.

The semimain has good pace, good action, and people trying. Even if wasn’t the best action, you had them looking good and trying new things. Rey Cometa’s frogsplash is looking better. His spot with Hechicero getting flipped onto the guardrail chest first. This was a fun match on a show with not much fun on it.

Johnny Idol was a better opponent than Pierroth for Vangellys, and it’s not like he or Vangellys were much better. They were just both competent and able to go for longer than three minutes at stretch, so it’s was a setup from the hair match.

Gran Guerrero toss

It’s hard to care about a match with Nitro & Sangre Azteca. Fuego & Pegasso did look good in their runs, Oro treated his win like a big deal, but it’s quickly forgettable.

Arkangel is one of the least fun guys to watch. He’s not good and he’s not good for a long time, as his matches always seem to go longer. Robin and Flyer’s matching Super Sky Team (Sombra/Volador era) gear looked god, and the second fall finished well. I kind of wonder what Akuma would turn into outside this environment. This one of the matches where looked useful but it’s going to be tough for him to get better in these matches.

The minis match was better than usual because of Angelito being back. He had a good fall two and three, and was looking to make an impression. The third fall seemed like it ended early.

Mercurio celebrates a superkick quite a bit

CMLL Puebla: 2017-07-17 

clothesline versus spinning forearm

Recapped: 07/18/2017

All matches aired live from on Arena Puebla


Fuerza Chicana & Rey Apocalipsis beat Black Tiger & Meyer
(18:34 [9:37, 3:41, 5:16], 2/3, ok, via 

Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito beat Astro, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito
(13:34 [5:30, 4:08, 3:56], 2/3, ok, via

Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar, Sangre Azteca beat Astral, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr.

(14:29 [6:34, 3:08, 4:47], 1/3, below average, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. went to a draw with Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(13:54 [3:41, 4:51, 5:22], 1-1-1 draw, ok, via

Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia beat Mistico, Pierroth, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(11:30 [4:22, 7:08], 1/2, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Último Guerrero © beat Niebla Roja for the NWA World Middleweight Championship
(15:14 [3:11, 1:04, 10:59], 2/3, ok, via 

  1. Niebla Roja roll thru plancha (3:11)

  2. Último Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero (1:04)

  3. Ultimo Guerrero Guerrero Special (10:59)

What happened: 

Dragoncito dive

Ultimo Guerrero defeated Niebla Roja to retain the NWA Middlweight Championship.

Mistico replaced Rush in the main event. Caristico had been feuding with Rush, so he feuded with Volador again and Volador unasked him for the DQ. Carístico asked for one more fall. He did not get one more fall.

In the fourth match, the the usual tower of doom bit for near falls and actually got three counts. Luciferno & Ephesto had Angel de Oro & Stigma pinned at the same time Stuka splashed Mephisto. No one kicked out, and that combination of pinfalls meant the match was a draw. They kind of set up a rematch for next week.

Pierrohito challenged Shockercito to a title match, which explained why Shockercito actually had his title belt.


Pierroth is very tough on his own

Not great matches, though some weirdness with finishes and people playing different roles.

Ultimo Guerrero just went thru a shorter version of his usual match, stripping out a few of the spots but still doing the usual thing. I wanted to see more out of Niebla Roja, but he didn’t really show that much more and the crowd was more into Ultimo Guerrero. They did tease an idea of Niebla Roja out smarting UG early on and last week, but didn’t follow thru in a way to make it meaningful.

The semimain was fun for being absurd: it was just as weird to see Mistico being evil as Euforia being heroic. Diamante Azul and Pierroth got totally lost at one point, and Volador was screwing around with this, but it was still fine as a different match than usual.

Lestat cut down

The Hijos del Infierno match was the best energy match of the night, even while being routine. Someone in this rudo group – maybe Mephisto – has decided to pick up the weird finish torch from Blue Panther and Averno and more weird is always appreciated.

The tercera was an exceedingly boring rudo squash, compounded by the second fall finish being screwed up. The rudos were DQed for being in the ring too long, which didn’t seem a planned finish, and the tecnicos were cost a comeback from it.

Astro’s really good, but even here it felt like he didn’t get to show it as much in the minis. The rest of the guys were just doing the same things they do on other shows, but not as much of it. Joker didn’t feel as big part of the match as usual, and it usually takes the local guys having a strong night to make an early match worth watching.

The opener had some action but was slow and awkward and times.

Rey Apocalipsis claps for his own spot

RIOT, Puebla, Angel de Oro/Bucanero tonight, La Llave a La Gloria

Arkalis & Rey Samuray

RIOT (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Femenil, Monterrey, Nuevo León [LuchaMania Monterrey]
1) Hell Raider b Black Raider
2) Low Rider b Sayrus (Laguna)
3) Hooligan Byron b PsicóticoMuerte Extreme [hardcore]
Hooligan Byron added himself to the hardcore match.
4) Black Terry b Erick Ortiz
Terry submitted Erick Ortiz. Low Rider thought it would be a good idea to challenge Terry after the match and Terry accepted for the next show.
5) Arez b KratozDralionSammy GuevaraFuego Del Sol (Oklahoma)
Many many many moves. Sammy dominated the match late, but Arez took him out with a RKO (into Sammy’s birthday cake) and beat Fuego del Sol with a piledriver. Sammy declared he still wanted his match with Jack Evans that he was denied when Jack was hurt.
6) Fly Warrior b Shane Strickland [POWERBOMB.TV CHAMP, quarterfinal]
Strickland controlled much of the match, but Fly Warrior got the win in the end.

I saw the main event and it was good. Reports on the five way make it sound insane.

CMLL (MON) 07/31/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, CultIconEfekto10]
1) Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray b Ares, Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 31 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany b La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 31 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Shockercito © b Pierrothito [CMLL MINILA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 31 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Shockercito took falls 2/3. first defense
4) Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Stigma b El Malayo, Puma, Tiger  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Mephisto, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 31 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
straight falls, setting up Stuka vs Dragon Lee Mephisto
6) Carístico DQ Rush LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 31 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush took fall 1, Caristico took fall 2, and Rush fouled and unmasked Caristico again in the main event.

Sounds like it was going well until the main event and then Rush did a 2017 like Rush performance.

Tonight’s CMLL main event is totally reliant on effort, which seems ominous after last night. Rey Bucanero’s average match is not especially good at this point, but he showed in his title match with Hechicero that he could up his level a lot if put in a bigger situation for one night. He’s in a bigger situation again tonight, this time challenging Angel de Oro for the CMLL middleweight championship. Angel de Oro is not the level of Hechicero either, but so this is going to be a challenge, but it’d be nice if Rey could turn back the clock one again.

The rest of the show is not that much. Mr. Niebla makes his latest return from unexplained absence to weight down a trios match with Negro Casas & Felino against Mistico, Valiente and Stuka. Fuego, Drone, and Stigma face Sangre Azteca, Misterioso and Raziel in the fourth match – something that wouldn’t look good on a normal show but appears to be the best trios match on this show.

This show also has the long awaited meeting of Arkangel and Consejo in a tercera unfit for human consumption. There are more promising people in the matches prior to it but they can’t be that good if they’re behind that terrible match.

The card starts at 7:30. That main event won’t be until around 9;15 or later and you probably shouldn’t tune until them. I need to take my own advice at some point.

Guadalajara has Caristico, Volador and Marco Corleone (replaced Diamante Azul) vs Euforia, Terrible and Ultimo Guerrero in the main event.

TAO is running an AAA spot show in Queretaro. Local newspaper says they’re close to selling out, though it reads like a promotional piece.

AAA press release on the Llave de la Gloria tryout in Celaya says the Naucalpan final stage is on August 12th (Saturday), not the 15th as I had previously. I’m not sure what AAA is going to exactly do for iPPV this year, and I’m not sure they’ve decided either, but that would be a great event to use as a test run – they’ll get some interest, and it’s better it breaks there than two weeks later. (I suspect we’re more likely to get same Facebook video we’ve gotten of late, which is still watchable.)

Record has a couple pieces up today about some of the tryout participants, which you can zoom in here. (The Thamus one is up on their website too, but I’ve been getting one of those “Your Computer Has Been Hacked” junk ads from Record’s site today, so you may want to stay away.) One article is on Celestial, Cosmico, and Talisman, who were the regular minis on the Perros del Mal shows, haven’t been seen much, but talk about trying to honor their old bosses’ name. There’s also an interview with Thamus from Queretaro. A side bar on that piece says 60 people tried out and 9 people impressed enough to go to the next round. We should get the winners tomorrow midday.

Occasional IWRG title holder Chicano also was spotted among those trying out.

AAA is asking for questions for Vampiro and they say they’ll answer the top 10 ones. This is accompanies by a picture of Johnny Mundo yelling at Vampiro.

On Facebook, Vampiro say he’s going to be teaching wrestling online classes and holding wrestling classes in Mexico.

Johnny Mundo is going to be working the GFW shows as John Hennigan. If this was some sort of LU/GFW deal, it would’ve been easy to work out something to use the name he’s using on TV right now. It appears to be simply a AAA/GFW deal with LU not at all cut in. It also says AAA can’t have much control of LU trademarks if they can’t even get “Mundo” on their own.

Last week’s Zona Ruda with Vampiro & Pagano is now up.

LuchaWorld talks with Puma King, this week’s Poster-Mania, and the latest news update.

CultIcon writes about Sam Adonis vs Blue Panther.


RevoLucha The Crash (SUN) 08/06/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Guerrero Vida vs Black Impuls
2) Chik Tormenta & Lady Maravilla vs Dulce Kanela & Larry Miranda
3) Damián 666 & Hijo Del Espectro vs Genocida & Psicótico [sin reglas]
4) Rey Horus vs Sammy GuevaraBlack Taurus (Indie)Delta
5) Jack Evans & The King (Rey Fenix) vs Bestia 666 & Último Ninja
6) Garza Jr. vs Daga

A new lineup for this weekend’s show. Santo Jr.’s off the card. I didn’t see an explanation, but Santo not doing well in Tijuana might explain it. He’s caught in a bad situation – really needs to be working constantly to get better, but asking so much because of the Santo name that he’s barely going to get used. He really should’ve stuck with Tempestad for years just to get the experience. The outlook is not great.

In his place, the Daga/Garza feud comes here, with the idea that they might doing a hair match in December. (Skeptical, and definitely not the singles match.) Jack Evans gets moved up to feud with Bestia, and Delta’s added to the card. Zorro is also quietly missing from the show.

CMLL (MON) 08/07/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja vs Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika
2) Black Tiger, Lestat, Robin vs El Malayo, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana
3) La Vaquerita & Princesa Sugehit vs La Comandante & Zeuxis
4) Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico vs Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther
5) Stuka Jr. vs Mephisto © [CMLL WELTER]
7th defense
6) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]

The main event is weird – maybe they’re doing Marco vs Diamante for the heavyweight title?

At the TripleMania press conference, Ripper/Psicosis II apparently said Morphosos/Histeria had also left CMLL. CMLL books people after they’ve left because of either a) makes people look bad for not showing up or b) some sort of unemployment/severance rights issues where it gives CMLL leverage if they can show the luchadors stopped showing up. Someone else will be in that spot. Kraneo still appears to be around.

CTLL MARTINEZ (SAT) 08/19/2017 Turf Zone Arena, Kennedale, Texas
1) El Burrito vs Sajbran
2) The Mecha Wolf vs Taurus (Indie)
3) Bestia 666 vs Kapoeria KidTaylor JetSilver TigerEpydemiusBrindis Del AireFuerza AéreaDouki
4) Chik Tormenta vs KeiraChristi JamesMystiqueLady MaravillaKayle Rae [MARTINEZ WOMAN]
5) Penta 0M & Rey Fénix (Indie) vs Arez & Low Rider
6) Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Matt CrossÚltimo NinjaXtreme Tiger

This is a stacked show – even for Martinez, which hasn’t run as often and hasn’t put as many people on shows this year. It would make a great VOD purchase and there’s a giant +LuchaTV add on it, but the only thing that’s shown up the last couple shows were highlights of Ultimo Ninja vs ZSJ.

new lucha videos for the weekend of July 29th, 2017

IWRG had a thing about skipping semimains this week. My understanding is the La Llave a La Gloria match I have will be up on the AAA YouTube channel later (as well as the missing match from Mexico City.)

I’m putting shows up as playlists now because that seems to be the easier way for people to get up; it’s kind of what I’d like to see other channel to do so maybe I should do it myself? That’s what I decided anyway.

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-07-24
taped 2017-07-23 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Gallo Frances vs Argos, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo
3) Villano III Jr., Villano V Jr., Zorro vs Imposible, Internacional Pantera, Sharly Rockstar
4) Carístico vs Trauma IIBlack WarriorMr. Electro [Prisión Fatal] and for the hair and for the mask

CMLL on 2017-07-28
taped 2017-07-28 @ Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Puma, Raziel, Tiger
3) Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero in a lightning match
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis
6) Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-29
taped 2017-06-30 @ Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla
0) Ashley, Dragón Solar, Némesis vs Black Fury, Mini Rocker, Royer Boy
1) Bengala vs Australian Suicide
2) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
3) Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
4) Máscara de Bronce vs HernandezKevin Kross [briefcase]

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-07-29
taped 2017-07-25 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Blue Panther, Esfinge, Vaquero Jr. vs Felino, Olímpico, Sam Adonis
2) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón for the Mexican National Trios Championship
3) Diamante Azul, Mistico, Rush vs Euforia, Hechicero, Kráneo

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-07-29
taped 2017-07-21 @ Arena México
1) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match
2) Blue Panther vs Sam Adonis in a lightning match
3) Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-07-29
taped 2017-07-26 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Celestial Boy & Fly Star vs Power Bull & Tentáculo
2) Ángel Oriental, Kanon, Shadow Boy vs Kempo Jr., Monaguillo, Skanda
3) Gallo Frances, Hijo del Alebrije, Mike vs Marduk, Taylor Wolf, Warrior Jr.

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-07-31
taped 2017-07-30 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Dinamic Black, Hijo del Alebrije, Shaolin vs Demonio Infernal, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo
2) Danny Casas vs Veneno
3) Black Dragón, Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible vs Gallo Frances, Herodes Jr., Trauma II
4) Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan vs Hijo del Pantera & Pantera and Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. and Diablo Jr. & El Hijo del Diablo and Villano IV & Villano V Jr. and Negro Navarro & Trauma I and Golden Magic & Mr. Magia and Bombero Infernal & Bombero Infernal Jr. [Legado Final]

AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 

Venum dive

Recapped: 07/16/2017

All matches were taped at Poliforum, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas on 06/19/2017 


Texano Jr. beat Marty Martinez
(7:59, sit down powerbomb, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa beat Lady Shani & Venum for the AAA World Mixed Tag Team Championship
(7:52, Mami inside cradle Shani, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria ©  beat Hernandez & Máscara de Bronce for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
(6:38, Cuervo powerbomb Mascara de Bronce, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana © beat Aerostar, Drago, Raptor for the AAA World Trios Championship in an outcome later overturned (7:10, Tito Santana frog splash Raptor, good, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened:

every taping crazy Aerostar dive

In a vignette, Mocho Cota tries to raise Carta & Soul’s spirits after losing their masks. We’re shown that backstage, and then shown a camera with Jesus Zuniga coming into interview them. It’s like two different styles of interviews happening at once. OGT pop up from nowhere to reiterate their challenge for the title match. Soul Rocker is called “Tito” here and Tito Santana on the graphic – Arturo eventually explains it for those who don’t know. it stills says Soul Rocker on Tito’s Poder del Norte shirt. Poder del Norte is mostly the Milicia now, borrowing that look (which was also Mocho Cota Sr’s look for a time) as a trio. Raptor has the 3 briefcase to cash in for this title match.

Raptor gets a visual pin on Carta Brava, but Piero is looking outside for reasons not clear. Mocho Cota lips in a foul soon after and pins Raptor, and Tito adds a frog splash for the win. Poder del Norte’s music play for about 5 seconds before Vampiro’s music interrupts. He walks to the ring, and Poder del Norte walk around him to pose on the stage. Vampiro says it was an exciting match but that isn’t the way to win a title match in AAA. Vampiro announces he’s throwing out this match, and Poder del Norte vs the técnicos in a best of five series where the winning team keeps the trios titles. The tencicos do a triple dive on the rudos, which is half missed by the camera.

The new Panini Album is released July 19th and is pushed hard as a result. Noti AAA focuses on the plane unveiling.

dropkick is not good, sell is a lot

Mascara de Bronce looks for Vampiro before his match, and finds him with Hernandez. Neither are happy to see either, and Vamp points out Mascara de Bronce doesn’t have his briefcase. Vampiro explains they’re partners for a tag team title match tonight. He doesn’t explain why, because there is no explanation. Hernandez refuses a tag in the first minute of the match. Cuervo and Scoria repeatedly knock Hernandez off the apron anyway, which appears to anger him to enough to want to get into the match. He still can’t for a while, but does come in with a double clotheslines on the rudos when they mess up, works with Bronce for a minute or two, then pulls Bronce off a pin. Hernandez talks Bronce into continuing, and of course they mess up their next spot (in storyline and in real life.) Bronce gets pinned, then Kevin Kross comes out and throws him around for a bit. Hernandez gets Mascara’s briefcase from somewhere – and now it’s the #4 one, and Bronce definitely didn’t bring it to the match – gives it to Kevin Kross for some reason. I have no idea.

La Hiedra tries flirting with Venum to be his partner for the mixed tag title match, but he says he’s already got a partner. Lady Shani shows up just in time to pull Venum out of that mess and to their match. Announcers are still billing Lady Shani as a ruda, though she’s been on the tecnica side for months. (I haven’t fixed it either, guess I should.) Venum has a “1” briefcase, which isn’t the right number and appears to be an actual briefcase as opposed to the one they had earlier. Shani has the match probably won with a backcracker on Big Mami, but lets go of the pin and stands up because La Hiedra’s music is playing. (This is so dumb.) Hiedra is still nowhere near the ring when Shani, motionless, gets inside cradled by Big Mami.

The Marty/Texano match didn’t air on the TV show but is included on the YouTube channel. Something the announcers say is very obviously removed around at the 5:10 mark.


Kross suplex watch

The main event was a little sloppy at time – a problem with all the matches this week – but had some exciting moments and these two teams have potential for a good series of matches if they get better as they go along. The Poder del Norte work much better against these técnicos in action matches than they were getting out of the main event feud and they’re obviously motivated by their recent focus. Raptor is not yet at the level of his partners but these matches will help him get there. This could’ve gone a bit longer, but it’s one of probably six, so it’s fair that they’re going to save things for other matches. It would’ve been less dramatic but less forced if Vampiro had earlier decried there would no more fouls in title matches as part of making the matches more serious rather than coming off as inconsistent by bringing it up here only after the main event was over. The general idea – AAA is going to take title matches seriously now so title should be taken seriously – makes sense as a big concept, but it’s tough to believe in when both the other title matches had silly/dumb finishes and weren’t about deciding who was the best team. Saying you want title matches to be serious on the same show where two people who’ve never teamed and are feuding getting a title match is incongruous. AAA’s track record is they’re going to ignore this push when it suits them too, so there’s no reason to buy in caring until they prove otherwise, and they didn’t prove anything on this show

The tag match was whatever.. They did try to have it make internal sense, but it was still a match which made little sense to exist and accomplished little. It doesn’t even benefit Scoria & Cuervo to get an easy win because no one took the match seriously and they were bit players in it. It’s not doing all that much for Mascara de Bronce (or Hernandez, who was so dumb that he didn’t want to win the tag titles.) It didn’t do much for storyline Vampiro commission, booking a match that didn’t make any sense. There were a couple good spots, but there was also some awkwardness and nothing worth checking out outside of the context.

flying moth

What we learned about in the mixed tag title championship is that title is less important than a Shani/Hiedra feud, about the twelfth most important feud in the promotion right now. Yet, that feud isn’t important enough to actually give them the mixed tag titles to fight over (so maybe they really are going to fight for the Reina de Reinas championship.) Instead, Hamburguesa and Mami win the belts in a match where they seem much less over than usual and do not look especially good in the ring. Shani & Venum do some cool things, enough to just pull this up to OK for me, but there are some groaners of bad spots, no particular flow or story to the match since they’re both sort of tecnica teams and a terrible cliched finish. That OK is a generous grade.

There may be other weirder reasons why Texano/Marty was cut out of TV, but it comes across as easy to skip anyway. It’s not bad, but it’s a cold match – the crowd doesn’t really know Marty, there’s not much to get him over, and they don’t care about this fight all that much. The biggest reactions are to the normal lasso spots, which leads into the finish. I’m not sure what Texano is supposed to be at this point: he’s the slight técnico here and hasn’t been presented as rudo much since the turn. It’s also a little bit sloppy at times, not enough to tank it but it never gets a high level.

keep on swinging

Villanos win in IWRG, Puebla preview

IWRG (SUN) 07/30/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Lunatik Xtreme & Power Bull b Fly Tiger & Voltar
2) Mike b Pantera del Japon
Mike won despite injuring his left leg.
3) Demonio Infernal, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo b Dinamic Black, Hijo del Alebrije, Shaolin
4) Danny Casas DQ Veneno
Veneno hit the referee for the DQ.
5) Black Dragón, Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible b Gallo Frances, Herodes Jr., Trauma II
Hijo de Dos Caras wants a shot at Herodes Junior title.
6) Villano IV & Villano V Jr. b Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan and Hijo del Pantera & Pantera and Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. and Diablo Jr. & El Hijo del Diablo and Negro Navarro & Trauma I and Golden Magic & Mr. Magia and Bombero Infernal & Bombero Infernal Jr. [Legado Final]
Fathers on each team started and were replaced by sons when they were elimianted. Villano V Jr. beat Trauma I for the win (though with a foul), and earned a shot at Mr. Electro’s IWRG Heavyweight title.

They’ve focused a lot on the Villanos here of late so it makes sense to try a title match with them.

Today’s Arena Puebla is a busy show, closing out it’s typical July run of bigger than usual shows. The main event is a rare Caristico/Rush amtch. It’s a feud that’s been teased off and on in Arena Mexico, but has only happened once before. That match was back in January 2016, with those two getting a main event while half the roster was in Japan for FantasticaMania. That time, Caristico got a visual submission with the referee down, but Rush recovered to beat him cleanly with the Rush Driver. This matchup doesn’t seem like it’ll be a great techinical battle, but they should be good at getting emotion from the crowd.

Shockercito and Pierrothito meet in the tercera for Shockercito’s CMLL minis championship. CMLL’s mini division is not popular at the moment, but this is one of the better singles matches they can throw it out. Pierrothito is getting up there in age but still can move pretty well and is a good bully to go against the undersized Shockercito. These two met back in March to decide this title in what was their first ever CMLL singles match. (They’d also met on the 2016 DragonMania show.) It’s too soon in Shockercito’s title run for a title change, but otherwise Pierrothito would seem like someone could unseat him. The title match and positioning will let these guys go all out and, as long as Tirantes doesn’t screw up a count again, they should put together a pretty entertaining match.

The semimain is Dragon Lee, Mistico and Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto and Negro Casas, which could be a quick good match. Rey Cometa, Soberano, and Stigma face Puma, Tiger and Malayo. Local Puebla guys getting in a high position normally doesn’t get any follow up, but there’s a chance Malayo could be set up as Stigma’s next victim, and it’ll be at least interesting to see what he shows against higher level competition. The second match is a women’s match with Sugehit but not with Zeuxis: the sides are Vaquerita, Sanely and Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys and Tiffany. The show opens with Arkalis, Espiritu Maligno, Rey Samuray versus Ares, Guerrero Espacial and Rey Apocalipsis. It’ll air on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 9pm.

In WMC, brothers Super Comando & Artillero beat brothers Fulgors, which appeared to set up a two hairs vs two mask on the next WMC show.

In AULL, Keira defeated Lady Maravilla to keep that groups’ women’s championship.

The Crash’s show in Torreon looks to be on 10/08. They’re doing discounted tickets if you buy a few months early.

1987 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

Santo vs Espanto

I added 1987 lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio, to the luchadb database over the last week. They’re integrated the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. I think this is the first one of these which isn’t bigger than the last one.

This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. As noted last time, the paper appears to have not written about lucha libre for the first four months of the year before resuming it’s old coverage of show previews in April. What’s new this year is somewhat regular result article start to turn up in the last third of the year. That’s a first, and probably an indication of the local scene being so hot that the paper finally decided it was worth it’s resources to start covering it a bit more. I believe there were some columns too, but nothing interesting enough for me to grab this time.

The schedule is Arena Olimpico Laguna on Thursdays, and then usually all three of Plaza de Toros, the Auditorio and Palacio de Los Deportes on Sundays. There’s a few weekends off (and/or missing from the newspaper), but it’s about 200 shows a year, almost none of which haven’t been in a wrestling database to this point. There’s more Mexico City talent coming in regularly too; this isn’t just the local names fighting each other.

These results have been ready for most of this week, but that poster up there is holding things up. I know I’ve seen a online video of that title match, sometime in the last year. It had an established outdoor shot of the building (with the name of the building), but we couldn’t figure when it was – because I had the title switch in Satillo instead of Torreon. This was like a VHS tape someone had uploaded in one piece to YouTube and hours long. I thought it might be one of the videos on this channel, but I don’t see it there.

I know I had discussed this video with someone, but I can’t find any discussion of it on Twitter or DVDVR or email. I know I had started to work on timestamps for the videos, but gave up when I figuring out dates was impossible. And now I remember and can’t find the video. I keep derailing myself trying to figure out which channel I saw the video and it’s just not happening.


Canelo takes Cholo’s hair, Super Astro show

Cholo & Canelo

Super Astro (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [R de Rudo]
1) Candy White & Eterno b Psicosis Jr. & Rossy Moreno
2) Diva Salvaje, Estrellita, Keira, Pegazus b Demonio Infernal, Hijo del Alebrije, Lady Maravilla, Yuriko
3) Diamante, Hijo del Pantera, Imposible b Aramis, Dinamic Black, Metaleón
4) Draego & Hijo de Máscara Sagrada b Antifaz del Norte & Dr. Karonte Jr.
5) Fishman Jr., Lizmark Jr., Ninja Jr. b Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Ultramán Jr., X-Fly
6) Emperador Azteca, Flamita, Laredo Kid b Atomic Star, Trauma I, Trauma II
7) Hijo De Dos Caras, Oriental, Silver King b Ángel Blanco Jr., Shocker, Valiente
8) Gran Guerrero, Mr. Electro, Último Guerrero b Fresero Jr., La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible
9) Hijo de LA Park & LA Park DQ Dragón Lee & Rush
usual bit of fouls, with Rush getting a three count but being DQed after the fact

We’d be here until Tuesday if I listed all the changes from the original lineup (though I think there was an updated lineup I didn’t see until it stopped mattering.) I’m still not sure it’s right – Sexy Star mentioned how she couldn’t believe she was partners with Estrellita after all these years, but her name doesn’t appear in those results. Maybe CMLL stepped in at the last second and said no? It is odd how CMLL and The Crash people (Flamita, Laredo, Keira) are on the same show as CMLL ones, but the people behind the Super Astro shows seem to have unlimited money to get what they want. I saw the main event on a Facebook stream and it was a pretty fun match. Rush & Park did their usual stuff, and Dragon Lee is so good that he made me want to see him versus Hijo de LA Park in a singles match.

CMLL (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Retro & Sonic b Metálico & Templario
Metalico replaced Akuma.
2) Angelito, Fantasy, Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Blue Panther Jr., El Consejo, The Panther b Hijo del Signo, Virus, Warrior Steel
Match originally had Nitro as a rudo, but El Consejo (Nitro’s new tecnico name) was placed on the tecnico side on Tuesday instead of Fuego, and Warrior Steel turned up for the first time since March 2016 to take his spot on the rudo side. Consejo won in his “debut”
4) Rey Cometa b Sagrado [lightning]
5) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Soberano Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
Tecnicos took 2 (excessive violence DQ) and 3. Rudos attacked Soberano after the match.
6) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys b Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente
Vangellys snuck in a foul on Marco and set up a title match next week.

Vangellys going for the title would be weird on most shows, but 51 year old union leader Nitro was reborn as a tecnico winning matches with a top rope plancha so who even knows what weird is any more.

CMLL (SUN) 07/30/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Artillero, Espanto Jr., Espíritu Negro b Magia Blanca, Robin, Sonic
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca b El Consejo, Oro Jr., Pegasso
El Consejo (Nitro under a new name) replaced Astral on Tuesday. Rudos took 2/3.
3) Amapola, La Comandante, Metálica b Marcela, Silueta, Skadi
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Canelo Casas b Cholo [hairCabellera Vs Cabellera Cholo Vs Canelo Casas (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Canelo took 1/3, winning with a casita. Cholo’s first hair match loss.
5) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno
Luciferno replaced Ripper (left for AAA mid week but never taken off the lineup despite other changes.)

Neither Canelo or Cholo are booked next week yet. This probably should set up Canelo as a tecnico but I’m not sure if they’re doing it, and there’s at least a chance this is a farewell hair match loss for Cholo. Or, they could just be partners again in two weeks. One never knows.

In RIOT, Fly Warrior defeated Shane Strickland to advance in the quarterfinals of the Powerbomb.TV tournament. This aired on Facebook and will be on their service. It had a rough start, but got pretty good as it went along. Powerbomb hasn’t announced when/where the semifinal + finals will be held, but it’s probably a ways out.

AAA’s show in Arena Neza seems to have drawn a strong card. It was built around seeing Psycho Clown or Dr. Wagner masked for the last time in that arena. On the undercard, they set up a Motocross vs Chico Che hair match for 09/16. CMLL should be worried.

Gimnasio Ajusco in Mexico City was reopened this weekend as a lucha libre venue. The article (and probably the politicians) billed it as the first school of lucha libre in Mexico City, which is not really the case. The article goes onto say the school has been certified by CMLL and maybe they mean the first outside school that’s been like that, but even then I’m sure that’s the case and it’s nothing CMLL has acknowledged. Still, more venues in Mexico City are always a good thing.

+LuchaTV celebrated 11 years of existence with cake after tonight’s IWRG show.

This week’s AAA show is up. It’s a good show.

SuperLuchas looks back at the history of apuesta matches between Americans and Mexicans.

Paranoiko teaches lucha libre to the children.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Segunda Caida watches some 07/21 CMLL and off TV Mil Muertes matches.


CMLL (SAT) 08/05/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Retro & Sonic vs El Coyote & Espanto Jr.
2) Príncipe Diamante, Sangre Imperial, Sensei vs Artillero, Warrior Steel, Yago
3) El Gallito & Microman vs Chico Temido & Mije
4) Fuego, Rey Cometa, The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Olímpico, Pólvora
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
6) Marco Corleone © vs Vangellys [CMLL HEAVY]
second defense

Zacarias is booked off in Texas, so Chico Temido makes his CMLL debut. He (blond mohawk) and Chamuel (clown) have been working micro matches since at least 2014 and wrestled Mije & Zacarias back in June in Neza, which might have been a tryout for this.

Olimpico is back in Mexico City, as expected to pick up a Ripper bookings. Warrior Steel’s looks to be back full time, as everyone who appeared last March and disappeared seems to be getting brought back. I wonder if we’ll ever get the story of what happened, because it’s very transparent something did go down.

CMLL (SUN) 08/06/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Flyer, Sensei, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Nitro
3) Marcela vs Princesa SugehitSiluetaLady MaravillaSkadiDalysZeuxisAmapolaLa ComandanteLa Seductora [CMLL-REINA INTL]
4) Diamante Azul, Titán, Valiente vs Kráneo, Negro Casas, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Euforia, Mephisto

Nitro is back being Nitro. Give it a couple days to see if CMLL screwed up or if the El Consejo thing was just a weird one week deal for trademark reasons.

The most recent CMLL-REINA International champion was a British wrestler with a northern European sounding name, Heidi Katrina. She had barely wrestled for REINA. She still seemed to be on good terms as far I can tell on her Twitter timeline, but that promotion seems to change leadership every nine months and she was probably a previous regime’s choice. (Also, they seem to run about six shows every nine months. VOW’s Wrestling Omakase recently podcast did a deep dive into all the current Joshi promotions and REINA is so minor and barely visible that it didn’t even rate a mention. I think Mr. Cacao and his people are now running the group and that’s why CMLL is still involved, but it’s about the exact opposite of their NJPW partnership and this was a long aside so let’s try a new paragraph.)

So, anyone, random vacant women’s title. This shouldn’t be confused with the CMLL-REINA International Junior title held by Keira, but most people will be because there’s no reason in the world this group needs two titles.. Zeuxis & Sugehit are both in this cibernetico, and Zeuxis is already announced for REINA in October, so she’s the logical favorite.

Blue Panther defeats Adonis before their hair match, La Llave de la Gloria, weekend shows

Sobernao and Titan

CMLL (FRI) 07/28/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Culticonthecubsfan]
1) Eléctrico & Stukita b Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:42. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso b Puma, Raziel, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:23. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:06. NGD took 1/3.
4) Hechicero b Stuka Jr. [lightningLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:15. Hechicero won via conjuro
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente b Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:06. Sam Adonis was DQed in fall 1, Blue Panther was DQed in fall 2, Panther submitted Adonis in fall 3.
6) Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja b Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:49. Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja feuded.

This was a fun show. Nothing really bad, a loud (and large) crowd, and a good set up for next week’s show.

AAA concluded it’s La Llave de la Gloria tryouts today in Celaya. There were about 30 male luchadors trying out, and they split them up into seven matches: one two three four five six seven. All the matches seemed fine, but no one really jumped out from me like the previous tryouts. (It was also a darker building and I didn’t really recognize anyone.) AAA’s been announcing winners in Record on Wednesdays, so we’ll figure out who advances from these quickly. After that, the next step is the Naucalpan show in August which we assume will have all the people who advanced past the first round.

We got the answer to the question I had about Hijo del Santo running the Zocalo. In Esto, Hijo del Santo says he plans to run in Tulancingo on September 23rd, the place of Santo’s birthday. He says it’s “80%” he’s also running in Mexico City, but he’s discovered September is a busy month due to the independence day holiday (!) and so maybe they’ll run in October instead.

this weekend’s lucha


Lucha Underground has a Dragon Azteca promo, which reveals he’l face Johnny Mundo this week.

Segunda Caida watches some recent Los Diabolicos.

Hip Hop Man is running a Hip Hop Man 15th Anniversary show on 08/13.


CMLL (FRI) 08/04/2017 Arena México
1) Drone, Fuego, Pegasso vs Disturbio, Sagrado, Virus
2) El Gallito & Microman vs Mije & Perico Zakarías
3) Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Hechicero, Pierroth, Rush
5) Carístico, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
6) Blue Panther vs Sam Adonis [hair]

This is another show where CMLL could’ve gone the iPPV route but appears to be just airing it like a normal Friday show. The secondary draw here are the micros making the Friday debuts, but it’s also a really good looking card. Niebla Roja vs the Guerrero continues in the semimian, and the tercera should be another strong NGD exhibition. The opener is much better looking than usual.

CMLL on 2017-07-28 

one week away

Recapped: 07/28/2017


Eléctrico & Stukita beat Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
(16:42 [4:44, 2:46, 9:12], 1/3, ok)

Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso  beat  Puma, Raziel, Tiger
(16:23 [6:20, 3:36, 6:27], 2/3, good)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán 
(16:06 [5:03, 3:35, 7:28], 1/3, great)

Hechicero beat Stuka Jr. in a lightning match
(7:15, conjuro, good)

Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis
(7:06 [1:38, 2:57, 2:31], 1/3, ok)

Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
(11:49 [2:43, 3:27, 5:39], 2/3, good)

What Happened:

Titan & Sobreano combo

Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero in the main event and took his mask post match, further teasing a mask match between the two.

The first fall (Adonis) and the second fall (Panther) of the semimain both ended with someone shoving referee Edgar down. Blue Panther submitted Sam Adonis clean to the nudo lagunero in the third. Hype promos for next week followed.


NGD take care of business

The main event was solid, with Mistico really carrying it thru with big spots. (Carístico had a La Mistica issue in the second fall, and there was a nearly as awkward spot where he was standing on the apron forever waiting for the careta to be set up.) They’re trying so hard to make Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero that it very slightly worked here but I think people would be disappointed with it as the Anniversario main event. It’s being forced to be something bigger than it is (a midcard match on the same lines of Adonis/Panther) and Niebla Roja is just not catching on. CMLL is so far behind this that it seems unlikely they’ll pull a detour, but it’s not a great path to be going down.

The semimain doesn’t fit the traditional good match description but it was a riot. Crowd keeps getting more into Sam Adonis; they’d be silly to have him lose right now, and the signs are he’s not. The disqualifications made the falls not be much but stirred up the emotion even more. The other four didn’t really fit in beyond having more people, but Diamante Azul third fall clothesline was really well timed and Rush played along with this well.

a normal Mistico day

The lightning match wasn’t quite as good as some of the undercard, but it would’ve stood out on a lesser day. The early match work in this match was totally smooth. The rest of the match was more their ordinary bits, but done well. Maybe everyone in CMLL should stop going for moonsaults, they don’t work out for anyone.

The tercera looked like a show stealer on paper and lived up to it. The NGD as trios champs make sense because they come off as the possibly the best trio in Mexico. Their team work is great, their stomping the heck out of people to get boos is also great. The técnicos meshed together really well, with Drone stepping up level for the match and fitting in. There were some wild spots and some out of control moments: the triple corner dive looked like the end of them, btu they kept it together. There’s still room to improve with the NGD, they have moves that don’t come off as crisp or as impactful as they’d like. It’s crazy to think how much better they could end up getting.

sure why not

The second match was good action the whole way thru. Fuego and these rudos have good chemistry, and Puma & Tiger push the pace really well. The match also randomly included a lot of hard running forearms to the face. Raziel looked a lot better than usual, with good people to push him to do more. All the lesser considers guys hit their spots and didn’t feel like they were lesser guys.

The opener looked like it was gong to be a pretty fun match, and actually was for a fall or two. They did a lot of good spots in the first fall and the rudos fought back with double teams nicely in the second. The crowd didn’t really give them a chance because it was an opener, but it was still watching until a lengthy and boring third fall. The rudos seemed to run out of things to do as they maintained control of the match, then técnicos comeback wasn’t all that exciting, and then the match just kept going and going for no particular reason. Match lost me by the end.