AAA #644

AAA #644, aired in the US on 09/29, taped 08/31.

When I skimming thru this, I noticed this four match show had gone the entire three hours (instead of ending an hour early) and I wasn’t quite sure how they managed to do that. I should’ve figured, they just bloated matches out some more.

Obviously, I’ve railed enough about AAA making some of their matches too long for their own benefit enough times that you don’t need to read it again. Every match on this show went over 12 minutes, we saw all the entrances and people got separate ones when they really didn’t need them to extend this a bit longer – there as a lot of setup stuff that I didn’t like, and got in way of me enjoying anything I did like. All the matches felt long; not one of them made me feel like I had to see the next one (most left me dreading the AAA I still yet to recap.) I’m a hard critic but this was an exhausting show to get threw and I was checked out by the end.

You know, if you’ve got a team of one guy who is limping on the way to the ring and another guy who’s got one good arm, maybe they shouldn’t go 18 minutes.

I did like Decnis’ new look, though I’m going to miss how fun Alan and Zumbido were as a team. Everything else, I could have been okay missing.

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AAA #643

AAA #643, aired in the US on 09/22, taped 08/19.

I’m sure Ayako Hamada has many great matches that I should seek out, and maybe she’s a great person. I never want to see another match with her again. It’s not directly her fault, it’s actually whoever is continually booking 6 minute long matches to go 14, but it’s Ayako who always seems to end up in them. All this was eight minutes of killing them (because this is a three hour show, and for no other reason) and then a six minute match tacked on at the end.

I hate these distended matches worse than the Mexican Powers hardcore stuff, if I think about it. At least then, they’ll set up a prop in the first two minutes and you know the match can’t possibly end until they get the spot with the prop in so you can safely tune out. There was nothing they were waiting for in the triangle match, just a signal from the back that it was okay to finish up now (and then they did it as quickly as possible.)

The Intocable/Alan Stone bit had the ghost of Antonio Pena all over it. Anyway, I know the mutual respect story they were trying to tell there, but they didn’t build it up going into enough. I guess the idea was to solidify Alan as a face, but fans were catching on to that anyway.

Zorro vs Chessman was clearly supposed to be for the UWA LH belt – after the fact. Either they changed their minds later, or they didn’t alert Zorro, or Zorro decided not to be alerted. It was treated as a title match after the fact, so – I guess someone didn’t have firm control of the situation, because there are way too many logistical problems here.

Like La Parka Jr. being introduced in the first hour of the show and highlights in commercials throughout but supposed to be a surprise participant in the main event. People in AAA have ideas, and some of them are actually good, but I don’t know that everyone’s on the same page or thinking them thru. That title match was another one that was too long – unfairly so for La Parka Jr., who’s doing the company some good by working thru his injuries and should be helped out a bit.

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10/12: Mexico notes, IWRG, Laredo, Wagner, Leon

Mistico shaves Misterioso/ESTO

CMLL (FRI) 10/12 Arena Mexico
1) Metalico & Trueno vs Arkangel & Hooligan
2) Leono, Stuka Jr., Super Nova vs Loco Max, Ohara, Okumura
3) La Mascara, Rey Bucanero, Sombra vs Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca, Virus
4) Alex Koslov, Blue Panther, Ultimo Dragon vs Averno, Black Warrior, Olimpico
5) Mistico, Negro Casas, Shocker vs Atlantis, Toscano, Ultimo Guerrero

The closest thing to a story is Shocker’s return to main event. It’d be nice if this meant Shocker’s return to being awesome, but I wouldn’t hold your breath on that.

Besides the stuff previously mentioned, ESTO teases Averno vs Koslov for Averno’s title if Alex can beat him tonight.

Both Esto and Ovaciones mention Arkangel will be headed to Canada on 11/05 (and gone for a few weeks) for some shows and some training. I presumed this was the Ultimo Dragon affiliated UWA promotion, but they haven’t been running shows from a while by the looks of their website. Reforma (via Jazzo @ el Martinete) has an interview with Arkangel, but I still don’t know where in Canada he’s going. It’s a big country, and they get mad when you confuse their geography.

Also, Mistico’s workload is on the way UP because he’s got to start working on the soap opera again. UP, they can’t give him time off from the ring while he’s doing something else. So dumb.

IWRG (THU) 10/11 Arena Naucalpan [superluchas]
1) Super Espia b Latin Brother
2) Nemesis IWRG & Rockero del Diablo b Simbolo & Star Boy
3) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro b Freelance, Tortuguillo Ninja I, Tortuguillo Ninja II
4) Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Enterrador 2000 b Fantasma de la Opera, Negro Navarro, Veneno
5) Bogeman, Negro Casas, Ultraman Jr. DQ Enfermero Jr., Nitro, Pierroth

The recap mentions Black Terry successfully defended his title over Fantasma de la Opera on Sunday; I never saw a card for that show, but that makes sense. On this show, Black Terry won in two falls with a low blow in the second. In the main event, Pierroth fouled Bogeman for the loss.

El Manana has a text and video interview with Laredo Kid. He says he’ll be out two months here. (Thanks Chui)

Ovaciones has an interview with Wagner, where he again vows to make all his already scheduled dates and stresses that he’s not going to AAA. He wants his own schedule, it doesn’t make sense to go to some place else that’ll decide it for him. Wagner has a longer interview in Noticas-Oax, though nothing is mention about his departure. The Doctor does shoot down those rumors that lucha libre is fixed, calling lies from the jealous people. I’m so relieved.

CMLL (MON) 10/15 Domo de la Feria de Leon []
1) Astro Boy, Stuka Jr., Super Nova vs Loco Max, Skandalo, Virus
2) Mascara Purpura, Maximo, Valiente vs Ephesto, Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
3) Alex Koslov, Heavy Metal, Mistico vs Black Warrior, Toscano, Ultimo Guerrero

In ESTO, the Mexico TNA reprsenative says the 12/15 Toreo de Cuatro Caminos show will be a PPV. TNA is scheduled to run a US PPV on 12/02 (Turning Point), so that can’t be right unless they’re doing a Mexico only PPV – that’d be a disaster. TNA’s gotten a half hour show on TVC, but I still don’t know how they’re going to sell tickets for these shows as is (they don’t really do that in the US), much less PPVs.

Santo and Park drew 6000 in Spain. Park is back in this hemisphere, as part of the NWA Pro show tomorrow in Irving, Texas. Sicdelico Jr. gets a shot at the NWA Heavyweight title on the show as well.

Cibernetico headlines a show Saturday, in San Luis Rio Colorado, Sonora. He’s oddly listed as WWA Champion here; he’s a former champion, they got confused.

Sydney Morning Herald has a brief guide of things to do while in Mexico City, including going to Arena Coliseo.

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10/11: last Thursday’s results, bodybuilding

IWRG (THU) 10/04 Arena Naucalpan [the gladiatores]
1) Rockero del Diablo b Latin Brother
2) Golem & Samba b Judas el Traidor & Nemesis IWRG
3) Mascarita Sagrada & Voladorcito b Bracito de Plata & Pentagoncito
4) Black Terry, Enfermero Jr., Yamato b Fantasma de la Opera, Filoso, Freelance
5) Electroshock, Villano III, Villano V b Bogeman, Negro Casas, Negro Navarro

CMLL (THU) 10/04 Arena Neza [the gladiatores]
1) Hombre Bala Jr. & Super Tri b Dr. Karonte Jr. & Sakura
2) Apocalipsis, Artillero, Ramstein b Buho, Rayo Tapatio I, Rayo Tapatio II
3) Gitanito, Pequeno Violencia, Pierrothito b Bracito de Oro, Fantasy, Pequeno Olimpico
4) Euforia, Nitro, Nosferatu b Leono, Mictlan, Tigre Blanco
5) La Mascara, Sagrado, Shocker b Averno, Black Warrior, Tozcano

Ramstein beat Rayo II with a foul. Gitanito beat Mini Olimpico the same way. Shocker kept escaping Warrior moves in the main event, so Warrior booted him for the DQ.

CMLL held it’s annual bodybuilding contest. Winners were

Women: Dark Angel (Medussa was runner up – and it seems those were the only two who particpated)
Minis: Mini Damian 666 (Celestial 2nd, Electrico 3rd – Mr. Aguilita, Pierrothito, Pequeno Black Warrior also participated)
Novice: Sensei (Sombra 2nd, Metalico 3rd – Espiritu Maligno, Meatlico, Hijo de Canek, Loco Max and La Mascara also participated)
Intermediate: Sangre Azteca (Diamante Negro 2nd, Fabian El Gitano 3rd – Sagrado, Nitro, Polvora, Bacteria also)
Mr. CMLL/Adavanced: Ogun (Moltov 2nd, Okumura 3rd – Mascara Ano 200 Jr., Molotov also)

Mini Damian and Dark Angel are repeat winners. There’s controversy over that last winner, because Ogun is an instructor (surely in bodybuilding) and so he’s got an advantage here. That seems like lesser participation than last year. SuperLuchas has the photos.


  • El Sol de Tijuana reports on Demon vs Espectro Jr.
  • Universo writes a Santo vs LA Park article, with no new info.
  • Tribuna de San Luis writes about an AAA show this Saturday, though doesn’t mention a definite match

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  • 10/13-15 Lucha Times

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    AAA US: last show before Verano de Escandlo. Marvel at how Charly Manson and Chessman can manage to lose to Mesias despite having the numerical advantage! Be shocked how the Sect finally gets to pin a team on the final TV taping before they main event a major show!

    FSE US: Mascara Purpura vs Emilio Charles Jr. with mask and hair on the line. It must be a big match, they’re replaying it again two hours later – and again the next day!

    There’s a bunch of reruns on FSE this week for whatever reason. Old episodes air Monday at 4 and midnight (assuming baseball ends on time – it won’t), Wednesday at 6pm and Friday at 7:30 (again assuming baseball gets done at the right time.) They’re listings are a week off again, and it’s probably not worth the effort to figure which is which – they’re usually newish episodes.

    CAN52 US: Women’s Trio, Garza/Villanos vs Guerreros


    FSE MEX: Infernales vs a tecnico trio not including Mictlan or Stuka! Also Blue Panther versus Guerreros/Warrior

    AAA MEX: taping in between Verano and the Pena Memorial. Extrem Tiger’s last match with the Mexican Powers, Zorro’s first match as a rudo.

    CMLL MEX: Top 3? That’s what it usually is. Mistico/Negro/Shocker vs the Guerreros SHOULD mean something.

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    10/10: Espectro Jr., Nuevo Laredo, Coliseo, Oaxaca

    Espectro Jr. (II – Antonio Pena was the first to use that name) is Jose Elias Pincenno, from Guadalajara, 55 years old and 34 years a luchador. (choko01 @ box y lucha) For his ring entrance, they carried a coffin into the ring, and Espectro opened it
    from inside.

    AAA (MON) 10/08 Cancha de Futbol Rap Nuevo Laredo [RFC]
    1) Halloween, Pirata Morgan, Xtreme Tiger b Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Juventud Guerrera
    2) Hombre Sin Miedo b Maravilla Lopez [mask]

    Not sure of Maravilla Lopez’s name

    CMLL (TUE) 10/09 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
    1) Polvora & Vaquero b Astro Boy & Trueno
    2) Bam Bam & Pequeno Olimpico b Pequeno Violencia & Pierrothito
    3) Felino, Mascara Purpura, Maximo b Misterioso Jr., Texano Jr., Virus
    4) La Mascara, Sombra, Volador Jr. b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
    5) Heavy Metal, Rey Bucanero, Sagrado b Damian 666, Mr. Aguila, Terrible

    Mini rudos won the first fall of their match but got DQed for excessive violence. Tecnicos won falls two and third. After the match, Bam Bam challenged Mini Violencia to a hair match!

    CMLL (TUE) 10/09 Oaxaca [Noticias-Oax]
    1) Challenger Jr., Endeavor, Jungal 3000 ?? Laco el Loco, Vuelo Espacil, Zorro Jr. (local)
    2) Bam Bam & Celestial DQ Mini Damian 666 & Mini Halloween
    3) Astro Boy & Stuka Jr. b ? & Skandalo
    4) Maximo & Valiente b Misterioso II & Virus
    5) Mistico & Ultimo Guerrero DQ Dr. Wagner Jr. & Texano Jr.

    Ultimo fouled Wagner and faked a foul for the win. Wagner vs UG for the UWA title was announced for 10/24, with the promoter’s hair (with Wagner) vs a fan or a ref’s hair (with UG.) Mini Familia was DQed for excessive rudoness.

    That date doesn’t seem right.

    CMLL (SUN) 10/14 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
    1) Quazar vs Milenio
    2) Antrax & Evola vs Depredador & Exterminador
    3) Dos Caras Jr. & Rey Bucanero vs Gallo & Leon Blanco and Atlantis & Olimpico and Malefico & Pierroth and Rayman & Sagrado and Mr. Aguila & Terrible and Mascara Ano 2000 & Universo 2000 and Infierno & Toxico [torneo]

    CMLL (TUE) 10/16 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
    1) Thunder vs Impostor
    2) Estrella de Jalisco vs Fraile de la Muerte
    3) Metatron vs Danger (Guadalajara)
    4) Magnum vs Mr. Trueno
    5) Sagrado vs Mascara Magica
    6) Blue Panther & Rey Bucanero vs Damian 666 & Mr. Aguila
    7) Dos Caras Jr. & Marco Corelone vs Atlantis & Terrible

    Ovaciones writes about the TNA Mexico shows on 12/14 (Arena Monterrey) and 12/15 (Cuatro Caminos) and they’ve got the anniversary/birthday stuff everyone else had last week.

    ESTO has an article on the Pena memorial show. You can see Mascarita Sagrada in the photo gallery, but I still have no idea who’s in the suit. My best guess is it’s the original, based on Konnan being on the original’s mySpace friends list, but I’m just fishing for answers.

    The Detroit lucha show got written up in the Metro Times (thanks mikeinformer)

    Guerreros del Ring #108 has El Matematico on the card.

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    10/20 AAA TV Lineup (Orizaba, Veracruz)

    Previous: 09/30 (Tabasco), 10/07 (Pena Memorial Show), 10/18 (Aguascalientes)

    AAA TV (SAT) 10/20 Plaza de Toros La Concordia, Orizaba, Veracruz
    1) Billy Boy, Fabi Apache, Mary Apache vs Cinthia Moreno, Oriental, Rossy Moreno
    2) Alan Stone, Chris Stone, Super Calo vs Decnis, Scorpio Jr., Zumbido
    3) Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Juventud Guerrera vs Extreme Tiger, Halloween, Nicho
    4) Alebrije, Elegido, Intocable vs Abismo Negro, Histeria, Psicosis
    5) Gronda II, La Parka Jr., Octagon vs Electroshock, Mesias, Zorro
    6) Charly Manson, Chessman, Cibernetico vs Kenzo Suzuki, Konnan, X-Pac

    Projected Air Date
    Mexico: 11/04
    US: 11/24

    So Konnan’s returning the ring for real here. I guess maybe he’s returning for real the show before, but you think they might want to advertise it. They didn’t for the Pena show, but I’m not so sure how much wrestling he actually did there.

    So what’s the odds Gran Apache makes an appearance for that opener? 100%? 1000000%? When’s the last time Mari Apache wrestled?

    I was hoping Electroshock was a one shot. BOOOOOOO.

    While Konnan in the ring makes the show newsworthy, AAA seems to be back in a holding pattern till the Guera de Titantes card is announced.

    Announced Upcoming Taping
    – 10/26: ?

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    10/18 AAA TV Lineup (Aguascalientes)

    Previous: 09/16 (Guadalajara, VdE), 09/30 (Tabasco), 10/07 (Pena Memorial Show)

    AAA TV (THU) 10/18 Aguascalientes
    1) Cinthia Moreno & Sexy Star vs Fabi Apache & La Diabolica
    2) Angel, Pegasso, Pimpinela Escaralata, Super AAA vs Jesse, Nygma, Polvo de Estrellas, Yurkio
    3) Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Juventued Guerrera vs Decnnis, Scorpio Jr., Zumbido
    4) Aero Star, Rey Cometa, Super Fly vs Extreme Tiger, Halloween, Nicho
    5) Elegido, La Parka Jr., Laredo Kid, Octagon vs Abismo Negro, Histeria, Mr. Niebla, Psicosis II
    6) Charly Manson, Chessman, Cibernetico vs ?, Mesias, Zorro

    Projected Air Date
    Mexico: 10/28
    US: 11/17

    AAA’s website just lists the town, as if they themselves have no idea what building this show is at.

    Lots of factions reunited here – all of the (important) Vipers around at the same time, plus the non-broken members of the Air Force, Mexican Powers, Familia de Tijuana, Guapos, even the Night Queens. We’re just missing the Stones, the Sect and most of the Foreign Legion and those latter two could use a break. Doesn’t immediately look like they’re advancing anything, though.

    I’d guess the mystery guy in the main event is just because they’re figuring out who’s available – X-Pac or Killings or Kenzo – and not much of a surprise. (Or Electroshock, I blanked him out.)

    Announced Upcoming Taping
    – 10/20: Orizaba (coming soon!)
    – 10/26: Veracruz?

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    10/09: Coliseo, Puebla, Wagner


    CMLL (SUN) 10/07 Arena Coliseo []
    1) Bracito de Oro & Pequeno Olimpico DQ Mr. Aguilita & Sombrita
    2) Fabian el Gitano, Leono, Tony Rivera b Dr. X, Hooligan, Super Comando
    3) La Mascara, Sombra, Volador b Euforia, Nosferatu, Satanico
    4) Blue Panther, Dos Caras Jr., Marco Corelone b Black Warrior, Sangre Azteca, Toscano
    5) Atlantis, Olimpico, Ultimo Guerrero b Hector Garza, Villano III, Villano V

    Guerreros won the main event clean. The recap teases Satanico/La Mascara directly, rather than a trios feud, which sounds actually possibly. They’re still not facing next week, so it’s probably not going anywhere. In the opener, Aguilita fouled Bracito de Oro.

    CMLL (MON) 10/08 Arena Puebla [hugo999]
    1) Toro Bill & Toro Bill Jr. b Legionario & SWAT
    2) Blade, Negro Navarro, Siki Osama Jr. b Batman, Centella de Oro, Tigre Rojo
    3) La Mascara, Mascara Purpura, Stuka Jr. b Euforia, Nosferatu, Satanico
    4) Blue Panther, Sagrado, Volador Jr. b Sangre Azteca, Toscano, Universo 2000
    5) Atlantis, Black Warrior, Ultimo Guerrero b Marco Corelone, Rey Bucanero, Shocker

    Panther replaced Dos Jr. Toro Bill Jr. yanked Legionario’s mask and pinned him in the opener.

    Arturo Rivera’s column mentions he has no idea why Latin Lover didn’t show up to the Pena show. No one’s come forward with a reason so far, he just didn’t show.’s recap doesn’t mention Latin Lover at all, so he’s probably dead to them again.

    Arturo also says Dr. Wagner’s upset about concession sales being shorted at a show his brother was promoted.

    Laredo Kid’s injury is a fractured tibia – reports vary if he’ll be out three months (January) or six (April).

    CMLL WAGNER (SAT) 10/27 Poliforum de la Feria Torreon [el siglo de Torreon]
    1) Maquina 27 & Rey Tempestad vs Jerry Brown & Semental
    2) Brillante I & Espacial vs Dimante Negro & Moro Jr.
    3) Hijo del Soberano, Sexy Piscis, Super Nova vs Espanto V, Sexy Francis, Virus
    4) Mascara Purpura & Silver King vs Hooligan & Mr. Mexico
    5) Hijo de Lizmark & Terrible vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Negro Casas

    As Chui called, this is why the AOL anniversary show is pushed back a week. Wagner’s still using CMLL talent for his shows, and the article mentions plans to work both nationally and internationally.

    (Strong Style Spirit) NJPW wrestler Wataru Inoue is headed to Mexico. He wrestled briefly in Mexico in 2002, including the epic Giant Silva vs Giant Singh trios.

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