07/31 CMLL Infierno en el Ring Lineup, other notes

CMLL (FRI) 07/31 Arena Mexico [ESTO]
1) Flash, Metalico, Stuka Jr. vs Euforia, Skandalo, Virus
2) Hijo del Fantasma, La Mascara, Sagrado vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
3) La Sombra, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Ultimo Guerrero
4) Shocker vs Hector Garza, Toscano, Negro Casas, Black Warrior, Terrible, Texano Jr., Naito, Yujiro, Shigeo Okumura, Blue Panther, Maximo, Ray Mendoza Jr., Heavy Metal, Mictlan [cage,hair]

They ran 5 matches on the cage match show last year, but then there’s more people in the cage this year. I guess we’ll see, but I kinda expect this to be it.

Non-cage matches could be good, but don’t look particularly special. And the cage match is the cage match. I’m wondering if I should bother with live coverage on this show.

Mexico preview, Acapuclo, pre-Expo notes

CMLL (FRI) 07/24 Arena Mexico
1) Astro Boy & Sensei vs Artillero & Super Comando
2) Angel Azteca Jr., Angel de Oro, Tigre Blanco vs Euforia, Loco Max, Skandalo
3) Mascara Dorada vs Dragon Rojo Jr. [lightning]
4) Blue Panther, Hector Garza, Toscano vs Naito, Ray Mendoza Jr., Yujiro
5) La Mascara, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Atlantis, Negro Casas, Ultimo Guerrero
6) Shocker vs Texano Jr. [NWA LH]

Previews: Notimex, Reforma via Manana, Record, and Ovaciones, ESTO. Everyone focuses on the big title mathc, though at least one notes Mistico has a five week winning streak on the line.

Texano is 4-1 in Arena Mexico singles matches, winning the G1 Juniors tournament back in 2005, and losing the Universal championship a month ago. Shocker is 15-14. He’s won masks and hairs, and he’s defended titles, but he’s never won a singles title in Arena Mexico.

Texano losing two straight big matches would kind of establish him as a bit lower than they seem to want. Plus, he ought to have some back up here (even if none of the other Avernos are booked) to help him sneak by. I think he’s retaining, what do you think?

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CMLL (WED) 07/22 Arena Coliseo Acapulco [Eventa Acapulco]
1) Guerrero & Titere b Factor Miedo & Fenix
2) Lady Apache & Marcela b Amapola & Princesa Sujei
3) Angel de Oro, Angel de Plata, Maximo b Hooligan, Misterioso II, Skandalo
4) Hector Garza, Mistico, Toscano DQ Ephesto, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
5) La Sombra & Volador Jr. b Averno & Mephisto [CMLL TAG]

Rudos won the first fall. In the second, the recap notes there were 2 or 3 points where the rudos had a tecnico pinned, the ref counted 2 and stopped for a kickout, except the tecnicos never actually kicked out. Kinda turned the crowd on the tecnicos. Negro yanked Mistico’s mask in the semi main.

The movie about Solar is one of the highlights of today’s opening day of the Lucha Libre Expo. Solar also main events Pancracio show. Originally, he was supposed to face Negro Navarro, then Villano III, but Villano’s out with an injury and it’ll be Black Terry instead.

ESTO mentions a Hijo de Lizmark film. Sounds like a good idea, probably disappears in the end.

Proyeccion Luchistica talks to Hijo del Fantasma about his title win.

Cesar updates the records for all 15 in the cage match.

SuperLuchas previews their booth at the Expo (starting today), and announces ticket prices for the X-LAW show.

Segunda Caida checks out IWRG 07/09/09.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update from Wednesday and Thursday, plus Rob on C3 from 05/31/08.

07/25-26 Lucha Times


AAA: Shiima Xion’s first (and last?) AAA match. Cibernetico/Mesias partnership has the same lifespan.

52MX: Women’s trios (a bad looking one) and a random grab bag men’s trios.

LATV: I think there’s a pattern! Which would mean Lady Apache/Amapola title match.

CMLL: Title match, trios match with six guys in next week’s cage match, and the lightning match between last year’s two Gran Alternativa finalists. Guess is, it’s not a coincidence we’re getting that specific match this week, and CMLL’s doing this year’s tournament sometime really soon.

I’m going to guess they’re skipping the semimain this week, because that makes sense as a main event for next week’s TV show, if they’re not showing Infierno en el Ring. Which I’m not even sure off.

Anyway, next week’s early guess:

07/17 Mexico: Mascarita Dorada b Pequeno Warrior [lightning]
07/10 Mexico: Mascara Dorada, Maximo, Valiente b Misterioso II, Shigeo Okumura, Virus
07/24 Mexico: Mistico/Mascara/Volador vs Atlantis/Negro

Both main lucha shows start at 4 and run for two hours this week.

AAA-MEX: Electro/HX vs Ciber/Parka/Marco, Charly/Jack vs Chessman/Teddy. Chessman & Teddy should really be a regular team. Also, Team Kenzo.

FOX: Tuareg vs Fuerza Leono + Atlantis/Niebla/Negro vs Garza/Mistico/Toscano

C3: Fantasma/Averno, setup for another title match and the cage match

Puebla: with six matches, I can be twice as wrong. The two singles matches seem gimmies, so I’ll also pick Avernos vs Panther/Dorada/Sagrado, and Minis vs Locals

Monterrey: I forget to watch and they drop my name?

AAA #891 (06/27)

taped 05/25, aired 06/27

Fabi Apache, Gato Eveready, Mascarita Sagrada 2007, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Billy Boy, Mini Histeria, Polvo de Esterllas, Sexy Star – this is the week where someone decided captains rules needed to be emphasized again. May want to start by making it slightly more clearer (at least on TV) who the captains are. This was good, anyway.

Alan Stone, Crazy Boy, Extreme Tiger vs Rio Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana II – Poder del Norte was not bad, but they’ve had better nights. The post match angle was kinda weird; you’d figure everyone would be happier to get a title shot than feel miffed about how many other people would be getting it.

Chessman & Teddy Hart vs Jack Evans & Vampiro – a long angle disguised as a match. Turn still feels rushed. Jack being killed twice in two weeks and still finishing this match (and showing no ill effects later) is about normal for AAA beatdowns.

Charly Manson, Rocky Romero, X-Pac vs Escoria, Ozz, Zorro – quite the cane shot by Zorro. I can’t believe that feud didn’t just end at TripleMania.

Alex Koslov, Dr. Wagner Jr., La Parka Jr. vs Electro Shock, Konnan, Silver King – new Cruiserweight champ loses in first match. Shocking! If Konnan’s not writing this, do you think he loses his mind when such WCW-rific stuff goes down?

Tuesday GDL results, Infierno en el Ring semimain

CMLL (TUE) 07/21 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Katana & Milenio b Astaroth & Thunder Boy
2) Angel del Mal & Drago b Magnum & Metatron
3) Mascara Magica & Mr. Trueno b Gallo & Leon Blanco
4) Flash & Metro b Nosferatu & Skandalo
5) La Mascara & Toscano b Terrible & Texano Jr.

Mascara & Toscano beat the local tag champs clean, which ought to get them a shot. They’re quite a duo.

Skandalo replaced Euforia.

Gallo and Leon Blanco had issues in their match, with Gallo coming off as a rudo.

CMLL (TUE) 07/21 Arena Mexico
1) Bengala & Molotov b Caligula & Messala
2) Bronco, Dr. X, Vangelis b Angel de Plata, Guerrero Maya Jr., Metalico
3) Lady Apache, Lluvia, Marcela b Amapola, Hiroka, Yezca
4) Felino, Heavy Metal, Ray Mendoza Jr. b Hector Garza, Mictlan, Sagrado
5) Hijo del Fantasma b Averno [CMLL MIDDLE]

Didn’t have the first two match results previously. Marcela challenged Amapola to a title match after the tercera.

CMLL not only confirmed the 15 men in the cage for Infierno en el Ring, but announced the semimain, Mistico, Sombra, Volador vs Ultimo Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Atlantis.

AAA had an article about the Mesias’ luggage being lost on his flight back for Puerto Rico (so he was wearing more random stuff on the 07/19 taping), but the article is missing from the site. The article that still is up wonders if Yakuza could be the team to beat the Psycho Circus

ESTO has a preview of the Lucha Libre Expo. Getting back to the discussion in the comments, my point about AAA not needed to do a TV taping wasn’t as much about AAA’s popularity as the expo’s popularity. The once a year uniqueness of the event is something rarely more important than TV cameras. Unless it’s a morbid turnout, no one’s really keeping track of how many people sit around the main ring, they’re counting how many people by tickets for the entire days worth of activities and crediting them all to whoever’s running that day.

There’s an investigation going on in Nuevo Laredo, because someone broke the rules and two lucha shows were run against each other, a few yeards away from each other. They probably should’ve known this in advance, but now is the time for each side to blame the other. The article has a picture of the show with Juvi & Pirata Morgan, which seems to have little attendance. That was probably not helped by the other show being a free shows.

Mesias hypes Verano de Escandalo to Televisa Deportes.

Cesar notes the lack of work for those who’ve left CMLL and good wrestlers need to be able to wrestle different styles for different companies.

The Gladiatores has an interview with Rey del Ring winner Ricky Cruz. Veneno’s site has pictures of him in the Rey del Ring match.

Kcidias has not one, but two new toons.

CMLL (TUE) 07/28 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Hierro & Novato vs Milenio & Skaxy
2) Acertijo & Malefico vs Idolo & Metal Blanco
3) Casanova & Gallo vs Asesino Negro & Satanico
4) Mictlan & Sagrado vs Misterioso II & Shigeo Okumura
5) Hector Garza & Toscano vs Naito & Yujiro

Sunday’s UG/V5 match here is non-title.

07/26 AAA TV Lineup (Lucha Libre Expo)

AAA TV (SUN) 07/26 Centro Banamex [LuchandoLibre]
1) Rio Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana II vs Atomic Boy, Gato Eveready, Laredo Kid
2) Billy Boy & Sexy Star vs Aerostar & Fabi Apache
3) Crazy Boy, Rocky Romero, Ultimo Gladiador vs Kenzo Suzuki, Oriental, Sugi
4) Extreme Tiger, Mesias, Octagon vs Alex Koslov, Joe Lider, Nicho el Millionario
5) Charly Manson, Dr. Wagner Jr., Jack Evans vs Chessman, Cibernetico, Teddy Hart

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#900)
Mexico:  08/09
US: 08/29

We’re told this is a TV taping. We were told that last year, but, hey, it’s not like they’ve announced any other TV taping at this point. This looks like it could be a taping, outside of Octagon actually wrestling on TV.

Cibernetico and Alex’s turns appear official here. So sweet to see Cibernetico and Chessman reunited together.

Seems like the rudo teams in 3 and 4 should be swapped – shouldn’t Alex be facing Rocky and Sugi be facing Tiger? Oh, we’re headed to a multiman match probably.

Opener should be loads of fun.

Title Changes in CMLL this year

Had a question about this in email. This is the list, not in any particular order

  • Ephesto beat Rey Bucanero for the CMLL LH title
  • Hijo del Fantasma beat Averno for the CMLL Middlweight Title
  • Mascara Dorada won a cibernetico for the CMLL Super Lightweight Title
  • Sombra & Volador beat Averno & Mephisto for the CMLL Tag Team Titles
  • Hijo del Fantasma, Hector Garza, La Mascara beat Negro Casas, Ultimo Guerrero, Atlantis for the CMLL Trios Title
  • Negro Casas defeated Mistico for the CMLL Welterweight Title
  • Texano Jr. upset Atlantis for the NWA LH Title
  • Mephisto beat Sombra for the NWA Welterweight Title
  • Poder Mexica beat Volador, Sombra, and Sagrado for the Mexican Trios Titles
  • Princesa Blanca defeated Marcela for the Mexican Women’s Title

That’s 10 title changes, which seems like a lot. Since EMLL switched to CMLL and introduced it’s own set of titles, it’s the six highest year of title changes in CMLL rings.

20 title wins in 1992
18 in 1993
17 in 1991
16 in 2007
13 in 1994
11 in 1997, 1998
10 in 2001, 2004, 2009

1991-1993 had the first champions being decided for all the CMLL titles, most of the Mexican National Titles in CMLL possession before AAA took some with them, and plenty of title changes resulting from that split.

If title changes continue on this pace this year (?), they’ll end up 18. No title has changed titles twice, but there is a tag team title match supposed to go down tonight in Acapulco.

Titles changed on paper, or CMLL titles changed outside of CMLL are not counted. CMLL Japan titles and the Arena Coliseo titles are skipped. (1998 would be higher if they were included.) You can see my (quick, probably including a typo) work here.

Fantasma beats Averno, 2 more for the cage, one of the minis killers caught.

CMLL (TUE) 07/21 Arena Mexico [ESTO]
3) Lady Apache, Lluvia, Marcela b Amapola, Hiroka, Yezca
4) Felino, Heavy Metal, Ray Mendoza Jr. b Hector Garza, Mictlan, Sagrado
5) Hijo del Fantasma b Averno [CMLL MIDDLE]

Fantasma took falls two and three with bridging pins, though Averno controlled most of the match. Averno congratulated him after the match. Fantasma is the 14th champion, now a double CMLL champ (Trios, Middleweight.) Averno will have be content with the title he doesn’t defend.

ESTO’s article says Ray Mendoza (in for Lizmark Jr.) and Heavy Metal have been added to the cage match. Eh. The report last Saturday was that a poster said 14 people in the cage, and Maximo & Okumura make the most sense. Edit: Fuego en el Ring says Maximo & Okumura are officially in. Edit 2: CMLL confirms those four, plus Panther, and adds Mictlan to the match for absolutely no reason. That’s 15!

One of the two women accused in killing La Parkita & Espectrito II has been arrested. Estela Gonzalez (BBC version), nicknamed “La Tia” and 65 years old, was found in Mexico City. She was using one of the minis cell phones (these are not criminal masterminds) and the police traced the calls. They’re still working on tracking down the other.

(Strong Style Spirit) Mistico is getting an IGWP Junior Heavyweight title shot on 08/15. They’ll team on the 08/13 show, then fight on 08/15. No Negro Casas after all; Okumura goes worth to work the openers of both shows. The August 15th show is also the last day of group play in the G1 tournament, so it’s going to be a pretty busy show. My thought, yesterday before this was even announced, is Mistico is not going to Japan to lose.

Fuego en el Ring talks to Oro II and his photoshopped head about working the show in Lagos de Moreno next wednesday. As I’ve finally realized, this is the Oro IIthe original Plata, who was Oro II for a while. It sounds like it’s just a one time deal, but they’re hoping it’ll open the door to more.

Azazel wants a rematch with Palacio Negro, and blames the referee for fast counting him down.

Box Y Lucha posted a bunch of articles
Espectrito talks about he and his brother’s careers.

– Columnist is annoyed with rudos teaming up and going 3 or 4 on 1 tecnico during matches. They’re not following the rules!

Lizmark explains he’s doing a retirement tour. Cien Caras is still on his. Lizmark talks about Hijo de Lizmark (“I do not know how his career is taking”) but no mention of Lizmark Jr.

Elegido says he’s fully dedicated to wrestling. Or at least only doing his dancing in the wrestling ring, because he’s turning down Intocable offer to do some show. Elegido would like to team up with Alan Stone and challenge for the tag titles. Alan Stone, Gronda II, almost the same.

Sexi Star says it’s a matter of time before she poses for a men’s magazine.

Konnan blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. “The Mexican wrestlers who come here must format your hard disk to adapt” is a great strange translation. US wrestling is like a completely different operating system. I think the indies run on Ubantu.

Sangre Chicana would like to wrestle in Arena Mexico again, and bring along his son. Chicana thinks he’s got ‘pnly’ 2 or 3 more years left.

Villano III talks about having a show in the middle of nowhere, and the ring not showing up. To prevent a riot, they just got a canvas and wrestled on the floor of the arena.

Cotorreando con Box Y Lucha talks to Shiima Xion among others.

LA Park is bored by light tubes. Yet another thing we have in common.

Mini Mascara Ano 2000, seafood cook.

Televisa officallys launches Televisa Deportes Networks tomorrow. Lucha libre is mentioned in the list of programming, but no specifics. This would be a fine time to be starting another AAA show, but that is just random speculation.

Proyeccion Luchistica also has the map of the lucha libre expo layout. Looks like there’s still an open table for me to buy. (Maybe not.)

Slam writes about Blue Demon in Toronto.

El Pancracio has the definitive picture of Naito falling asleep at the press conference. Must’ve been just worn out from training so much.

The new episode of Slammin’ Stan is tomorrow night.

Ovaciones website seems MIA at the moment.

Averno defends a title against Fantasma (but which one?), other notes

Previews of tonight’s CMLL show: ESTO, Ovaciones. Ovaciones has the NWA belt being on the line here. ESTO just says the middleweight title, as does the note on the Ras de Lona preview. CMLL.com says the CMLL title.

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If you ever wanted to make a point about how little these titles mean, you probably would point to a situation where no one even knows what title it is, and it doesn’t really make any difference. Whoever wins the title tonight is a double champion, and that won’t mean much either.

Fuego en el Ring talks to Ultimo Guerrero about his success this year. UG says Ultimo Guerrero may be more famous than he was when he started out 12 years ago, but he’s the same guy he’s always been when he takes off the mask, and the bigger star you become, the more humble you need to be. Does this mean Artillero gets to be a jerk?

The Kataharis lucha libre exhibit is now in Puebla.

Veneno in a movie. Guadalajara wrestlers go to NASCAR Mexico. Some of those same wrestlers participated in an a 8KM Race. Palacio Negro won among the wrestlers (35 minutes, 10 minutes behind the winner), then won the cage match later the same day. Order of finishes were Palacio Negro, Skaxy, Cosmico, Saturno, Rafaga, Magnifica, Angel del Mal, Metal Blanco, Gallo, and Leon Blanco.

Cesar wonders why CMLL is not bringing in anyone from TNA, suggests how Friday shows could be tighter and better paced out, and wants new rivalries between prelim and main event guys, even if it means tecnico/tecnico and rudo/rudo. On the last one, while I think the type of people who read this blog would generally be excited for something like the Romanos vs Averno & Mephisto or Super Comando & Artillero vs Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero (though maybe not so much for Trueno/Negro Casas), my guess is the general public will look at them as non-competitive unimportant match and not turn out for them. Plus, those matches are interesting because they’re different, but after a while of doing them, they won’t be different much any more. CMLL could definitely use more meaningful and interesting matches, but CMLL needs to do more than one quick feud per show to make things meaningful, instead of just scrambling for a big main event every so often. I totally agree that the lightning matches should be leading to something or more meaningful than just an extra match they do each week and almost never follow up on, but that goes for a lot.

Kcidis has looks at Infierno en el Ring.

The new edition of Ras de Lona is up.

Luchas 2000 #479 has the 9 men in the cage match, plus the new young Lizmark Jr.

Ohtani’s Jacket watches Dinastia Navarros vs Cerebro Malignos without knowing the thrill of the IWRG/Super X feud.

LuchaWorld has Robert on AAA 05/25/08 and CMLL 05/24/08, as well as KrisZ’s news update.


CMLL (WED) 07/22 Arena Coliseo Acapulco
1) Angel de Oro, Angel de Plata, Maximo vs Hooligan, Misterioso II, Skandalo
2) Hector Garza, Mistico, Toscano vs Ephesto, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
3) La Sombra & Volador Jr. vs Averno & Mephisto [CMLL TAG]

You know, CMLL could create a page on their website and just put up the graphics of their lineups, instead of having people randomly stumble upon them while checking out message boards. It’s an idea.

07/19 AAA TV Results (Zapopan)

AAA TV (SUN) 07/19 Auditorio Benito Juarez, Zapopan
1) Gran Apache, Mari Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata b Cinthia Moreno, Pasion Kristal, Polvo de Esterllas
2) Aerostar & Fabi Apache b Billy Boy & Sexy Star [lumberjack]
3) El Elegido & Gronda II b Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario
4) Sugi & Teddy Hart b Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero and Extreme Tiger & Jack Evans
5) Killer Clown, Psycho Clown, Zombie Clown b Dr. Wagner Jr., Laredo Kid, Marco Corleone
6) el Mesias b Cibernetico, La Parka Jr., Kenzo Suzuki, Electro Shock, Chessman, Charly Manson, Silver King, Octagon, Zorro [battle royal, #1 Contenders, AAA HEAVY]

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#898)
Mexico: 07/26
US: 08/15

Order of entry in the main event: Mesias, Silver King, Chessman, Zorro, Charly, Kenzo, Octagon, Parka, Electro, and Cibernetico. Order of elimination went Zorro, Charly (by Chessman), Kenzo (missing a kick on Octagon), La Parka (by Cibernetico), Silver King (Cibernetico), Electroshock, Octagon, and Mesias threw out both Cibernetico & Chessman to win. First in, last man standing. You know, kids, if you ever love someone the way AAA loves Mesias, go ahead and marry them. Wagner showed up after the match so he and Mesias could do variations of the same promos they’ve done since March.

Zombie got pinned in the semimain, but was not the captain. Killer fouled Marco for the win. The Clowns are barely hanging on to continue their win streak each time.

Not really clear if the three way tag got switched to a tag match, or even really who won the match. AAA recap says the rudos won, and also mentions Alex is a rudo, but Rocky is not. Based on how things have been going, Sugi probably pinned Tiger, but that’s never a sure thing. The story of the match was not the fast paced action, but Tirantes being an evil rudo referee (17 years running!) Joaquin Roldan fired him after the match.

digression: el Blazer’s listed name by taping:

07/12: “Suguy”
07/17: “Suguy San”
07/19: “Sugi San”

if he sticks around for a year, he might end up being “Fred”

Gronda & Elegido beat La Hermandad, which we can only hope means a ***** tag team title match at Verano de Escandalo.

Next taping is (maybe) the Lucha Libre Expo. Hopefully we’ll get an updated card. Don’t think Vampiro’s working the show.