Link is right now. I am a moron.

taped 05/05, aired 05/13

Was this the Coliseo show with the really low attendance? This felt like a show with low attendance, and everyone taking it down a gear. It wasn’t mailing it in, but it wasn’t full speed otherwise.

Infernales came off in ring better in their first match, though they’re still being booked as dominant here. Nosferatu definitely looked more Chamaco Valaguez like here.

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05/18-20 Lucha Times

AAAUS: Not quite sure what’s going on here.

– Saturday’s afternoon airing and the east coast Sunday airing is shown as going only 1:30
– the overnight airing and the west coast Sunday airing is shown as going only 3:00

I presume the full scheduled show airs somewhere, but we may lose a week or get bumped back.

CAN52: Probably the AMex opener and Coliseo Main event. Sure getting a lot of the New New New New Infernales on the B-Shows.

FSE: Women’s trios, and a random group for the main event.

AAAMEX: The just compelted 05/12 taping.

CMLLMEX: Tiny Tecnicos vs Loco/Mexico/Nitro, Leyenda de Plata, Wagner/Atlantis.

Unless something unexpected happens, the Minoru Suzuki/Takayama trios match will not air anywhere. It’s in the dead spot.


05/20 AAA TV Taping Lineup (Morelia, Michoacan)

Update: The Mexipowers/Sect match is now for the Atomicos titles, as anticipated. Also, Aero Star continues filling it for the MIA Rey Cometa.

Previous: 04/27, 05/06 (lineup), 05/12 (lineup)

Odd that AAA posted the TV taping for two weeks from now, and not the results from last night yet. Eh.

AAA TV (SUN) 05/20 Plaza de Toros Palacio del Arte de Morelia, Michoacan
1) Gallego, Mr. Condor, Toxico vs Payaso Negro I, Payaso Negro II, Payaso Negro III
2) Mascarita Divina & Mascarita Sagrada vs Mini Abismo Negro & Mini Histeria
3) Pegasso, Aero Star, Super Fly vs Alan, Decnnis, Gran Apache
4) Cuervo, Espiritu, Ozz, Scoria vs Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Juventued Guerrera, Psicosis [MEX ATOMICOS]
5) Intocable, Laredo Kid, Zorro vs Abismo Negro, Kenzo Suzuki, X-Pac
6) Cibernetico vs El Mesias

Air Date
Mex: 05/27
US: 06/16

Chessman (named spelled wrong on AAA’s site) and Konnan are seconds for the main event. I presume this match means Chessman loses the match the week before. This show is subtitled Gran Tracion. Judging by last year, this means NO ONE TURNS. I dunno.

Interesting to see Juvi still with the Mexican Powers here. That’s about all I got.

Next Tapings
– 05/26 Minatitlan, Veracruz
– 05/30 San Luis Potosi

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05/16: Coliseo (last weeks), Monterrey

No word on last night’s Coliseo – Ovaciones has the AAA tapings results we’ve already covered – or word if/how Mistico wrestled last night. We do have some catchup…

CMLL (TUE) 05/08 Arena Coliseo [Super Luchas]
1) Pequeño Damian 666 & Pequeño Halloween b Electrico & Fantasy
2) Arkangel de la Muerte, Jeque, Nitro b Sensei, Starman, Trueno
3) Ogun, Stuka Jr., Tony Rivera b Loco Max, Misterioso II, Ohara
4) Damián 666, Halloween, Mr. Águila b Metro II, Mictlán, Sagrado
5) Atlantis, Jushin Liger, Último Guerrero b Dos Caras Jr., Lizmark Jr., Último Dragón

CMLL (SUN) 05/13 Arena Coliseo [KrisZ]
1) Sensei & Trueno b Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Brillante, Leono, Tigre Metálico b Loco Max, Mr. México, Nitro
3) Lady Apache, Luna Magica, Marcela b Amapola, Hiroka, Mima Shimoda
4) Felino, Heavy Metal, Sagrado b Ephesto, Mephisto, Misterioso II
5) Averno, Black Warrior, Último Guerrero b Dr. Wagner Jr., Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero

indy (SUN) 05/20 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [rfc]
1) Mercurio & Virtual X vs Ben Hur & Guerrero Negro Jr.
2) Karis & Orus vs Ramses (ACM) & the Mummy
3) Estrellita, Hombre Sin Miedo, Octagoncito vs Hechicera, Mini Chessman, Rey Infernal
4) Angel, Brazo, Pimpinela vs Aventurero, Hator, Histeria
5) Alan Stone vs Charly Manson

CMLL (SUN) 05/20 Arena Solidaridad
1) ? & Mascarita Sagrada vs Bracito de Plata & Mini Hator
2) Vaquero Romo vs Gato Volador & Mongol Chino
3) Ohara & Okumura vs Caifan I & Estrella Dorada Jr.
4) Cobarde & Satanico vs ? & Blue Panther
5) Fabian el Gitano, Groon XXX, Marco Corelone vs Electroshock, Sangre Azteca, Texano Jr.

That is an incredible tecnico trio.

(the Californian) This year’s Salinas Valley Fair will include lucha libre matches on Friday. Looks like APW, according to the website.

FSE put a press release trumping it’s ratings. Lucha libre gets a very small mention.

IWRG’s site is still down.

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05/30 AAA TV Taping Lineup (San Luis Potosi)

Previous: 05/12, 05/20 (lineup), 05/26 (unannounced)

AAA TV (WED) 05/30 Auditorio Miguel Barragan [el Sol de San Luis Potosi]
1) Aero Star, Laredo Kid, Pegasso vs Miedo, Payaso, Terror
2) Billy Boy, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata, Sexy Star vs Apache, Fabi Apache, Mini Chessman, Polvo de Estrellas
3) Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Juventud Guerrera, Psicosis II vs Alan, Decnnis, Extreme Tiger, Fuerza Guerrera
4) Alebrije, Elegido, Super Porky vs Abismo Negro, Head Hunter I, Kenzo Suzuki
5) Charly Manson, Chessman, Cibernetico, Zorro vs Cuervo, Escoria, Mesias, Ozz

Air Date
Mex: 06/10
US: 06/30

This is good timing, need a new AAA thread to provoke another long argument. You know how you can tell you have too many people on your roster? Everything’s an Atomicos.

Extreme Tiger is the worst possible Super Calo. They actually don’t list Psicosis II on the tecnico team, but I’m assuming that’s not a handicap match.

Doesn’t seem like anything’s going on here, but maybe the taping in between will make this one more interesting.

Next Tapings
– unknown

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05/15: Mistico to return tonight?, La Parka Jr. to return tommorow?, Puebla, Magazines

Ovaciones reports Mistico will wrestle tonight in Palenque de la Feria de Celaya, Guanajuato. This is far ahead of the most optimistic return, which means all that praying paid off for Mistico or he decided “screw it” and is going to be wrestling in pain for quite some time.

The lineup is something like

CMLL (TUE) 05/15 Palenque de la Feria de Celaya
1) ? & Ultimo Dragonicto vs Mini Damian 666 & Mini Halloween
2) Dark Angel & Lady Apache vs Amapola & Princesa Sujei
3) La Mascara, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Damian, Halloween, Mr. Aguila


According to an interview with the promoter in El Sol del Bajio, La Parka Jr. will defintely return for his show tomorrow in Ceyela. I guess no one wants to miss a date in that town?

A post on Box Y Lucha says Pimpinela will be out 2-3 weeks due to injury.

PYVC (SUN) 05/13 Poliforum Zamna de Merida [Yukacoolgráfico @ elmartinete]
1) Buitre Lee & Dr. Siniestro b Panther Boy & Rey Persa
2) Espartano, Lizmark Sr., Proverbio b Blade, Cachorro, Chupacabras
3) Black Soul b Titanick [OLX HARDCORE]
4) Dr. X, Eclipse, Mictlan b Cachorro Jr., Pierroth, Pierroth Jr.
5) Damián 666, Halloween, Universo 2000 b Marco Corelone, Super Parka, Villano III

This was supposed to have a Hijo del Solitario vs Villano III super libre bout, but Solitario hurt (arm? shoulder? something where he needed to use a sling!) and Villano III replaced Shocker, who appears to have gone AWOL. They did offer refunds for those who wanted, but judging from the pictures, they didn’t draw that much to start with.

CMLL (MON) 05/14 Arena Puebla [hugo999 @ box y lucha]
1) King Jaguar & Super Star b La Mafia & Mr. Rafaga
2) Fuerza Chicana, Toro Bill, Toro Bill Jr. DQ Forajido, SWAT, the Tiger
3) Loco Max, Misterioso II, Virus b Centella de Oro, Leono, Tigre Rojo
4) Damian 666, Halloween, Mr. Aguila b Ares, Fureza Chicana, Sangre Azteca
5) Averno, Mephisto, Texano Jr. b La Mascara, Rey Bucanero, Volador Jr.
6) Marco Corelone, Negro Casas, Ultimo Dragon b Atlantis, Jushin Liger, Ultimo Guerrero

4th match was an unannounced random bonus match. I think Marco pinned Guerrero, but whatever happened, it sets up a singles match for next week.

Ovaciones says El Hijo del Diablo will replace Lizmark Jr. in Coliseo tonight. Which means Diablo, who hasn’t worked CMLL in as long as I can recall, is lined up to work as a tecnico. Strange. I’m thinking that was a typo.

A blog entry on Milenio complains about the state of lucha libre. Hector Garza is quoted as complaining that wrestlers don’t need to know how to fight and just need a pretty face, a good body and know how to dance. Sure sounds like he’s talking about himself, based on his recent work.

Luchas 2000 #368 is all highlights from their show.
Guerreros del Ring #87 has Mascara Sagrada on the cover
El Halcon Net #90 has interviews with Santo, Texano Jr., and Brillante, and the first part of a story about Gimnasio Ham Lee. Brillante is 17!

Canek chats on Box Y Lucha tomorrow.

IWRG’s site is still down. No Sunday or Tuesday Coliseo results.

Can someone explain the Dr. Morales/Brazos thing?

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05/12 AAA Taping Results (Apizaco, Tlaxcala)

Previous: 04/20, 04/27, 05/06

AAA TV (SAT) 05/12 La Plaza de Toros Monumental, Apizaco, Tlaxcala [, Villano de la Atlantida @ box y lucha]
1) Némesis AAA, Path Finder, Takeda b Ari Romero Jr., Sangre Chicana Jr., Tigre Cota
2) Aero Star, Laredo Kid, Pegasso, Rey Cometa b Alan, Decnnis, Gran Apache, Super Calo
3) Kenzo Suzuki b Chessman
4) Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Juventud Guerrera, Psicosis II b Cuervo, Escoria, Espíritu, Ozz [MEX ATOMICO]
5) El Elegido, Super Astro, Super Porky, Tinieblas Jr. b Abismo Negro, Alliens, Antifaz del Norte, Histeria
6) Cibernetico & Zorro b Head Hunter I & X-Pac

Air Date
Mex: 05/20
US: 06/09

Lots of injury/missing subs.

Main event was change to a pairs tag, with other people dropping down to fill in below (Kenzo) or out selling injuries (Charly – who ended up interfering anyway to help his team win.)

Alliens filled in for Mr. Niebla in the semimain (no reason given.) Abismo beat Porky with a top rope splash.

When the title match ended, the Sect were announced as winners. One had snuck in a foul for the winning pinfall, “which all had seen, except Hijo de Tirantes”. Joaquin Roldan overturned the decision, declaring the Sect must win the titles cleanly or not at all – this counts as not as all, so the Mexican Powers are still champions (and still together.) I guess this explains why these two teams were scheduled to rematch next week, and perhaps that’ll become another title match.

Kenzo replaced Muerte, who’s left shoulder was hurt from his match last week.

Segunda was changed to a rematch of the previous week (Calo added, Pegasso and Aero Star replacing Cometa.) Apache beat Laredo Kid with a superplex. Laredo sure takes a lot of pinfalls for the pushed member of the group. Super Fly was hurt during the match.

Path Finder (II) and Takeda replaced Aero Star and Orion.

Next Tapings
05/20 Morelia
– 05/26 Minatitlan, Veracruz
– 05/30 San Luis Potosi

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05/14: Toryumon, IWRG cage of death, scattered results and lineups

TORYUMON GYM (SUN) 05/13 Arena Mexico [ovaciones]
1) Bryan Lee & Toshiya Matsuzaki b Arkangel de la Muerte & Daisuke Hanaoka
2) Hiroka & Mima Shimoda DRAW India Sioux & Marcela
3) Amigo Suzuki & Hijo de Fantasma b Dr. Karonte Sr. & Negro Navarro and Gino Gabino & Joe Potter
4) Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Platino, Passion Hasegawa b Casanova Italiano, Hiromi Horiguchi, Shigeo Okumura
5) Ohara b La Mascara [NWA WELTER]
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Negro Casas b Hirooki Goto & Jushin Liger
7) Kazuchika Okada, Marco Corelone, Mil Mascaras, Ultimo Dragon b Minoru Suzuki, SUWA, Ultimo Guerrero, Yoshihiro Takayma

Title match went 27 minutes. Corelone replaced Mistico. Video highlights are here, via Black Terry Jr.

(Strong Style Spirit No lucha guys in this year’s NJPW Super J tournament. I guess it’s better than getting my hopes crushed again. Hirooki Goto is also not scheduled, so he’ll be around for a while longer.

IWRG EXPO (SAT) 05/05 Centro Banamex [Alfonso Lizarraga @ The Gladiatores]
1) Samba & Venom b Avisman & Macho II
2) Coco Blanco, Coco Rojo, Coco Verde b 911, AK 47, Fierro
3) Mascara Ano 2000 Jr., Villano III, Villano IV b Fabain el Gitano, Mascara Sagrada, Negro Navarro
4) Halcon Salvaje L Veneno, Pierroth Jr., Enterrador 2000, Villano V, Bestia Salvaje, America Salvaje, El Dandy [cage, mask]

Veneno unmasked Halcon Salvaje, who’s Mateo Alcantara Villafuerte, 14 years a wrestler from Mexico City. Gladiatores has tons more from the Expo, if you’re looking.

AAA IDS Lineup (THU) 05/10 Plaza de Toros La Comiteca de Comitan [El Heraldo De Chipas]
1) Astro Azul, Divino, Spike b Furia Infernal, Tigre Jr. (Guatemala), Trivial
2) Cinthia Moreno & Sexy Star b Fabi Apache & Tiffany
3) Capitan Furia, Mexicano, Terrorista b Alan, Billy Boy, Decnnis
4) Brazo de Plata, Oriental, Super Calo b Alliens, Chris Stone, Espiritu
5) Alebrije, El Elegido, Intocable b Alan Stone, Scorpio Jr., Zumbido

They built up a Terrorista/Super Calo feud thru the show, with Calo wanting to replace Billy in the Barrios Boy match but Terrorista refusing to allow it to go down, and Terrorista showing up to attack Super Calo in the semimain. Tiffany hurt her shoulder in the second fall of her match. This seems to be a continuing interview.

AAA (SUN) 05/13 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [RFC]
1) Ben Hur & Euforia (Monterrey) b Panterita del Ring & Rey Imagen
2) Karis, Orus, Virtual X b Apolo Negro, Ares, the Mummy
3) Cinthia Moreno & Oriental b Monje Negro Jr. & Rossy Moreno
4) Crazy Boy & Psicosis II DQ Aventurero & Laredo Kid
5) Alan Stone, Antifaz, X-Pac b Charly Manson, Chessman, Octagon

CMLL LLA (SAT) 05/12 Arena Monterrey [RFC]
1) Electrico & Mini Fantasy b Mr. Aguilita & Pierrothito
2) Astro Boy, Maximo, Stuka Jr. b Arkangel, Loco Max, Virus
3) Mephisto, Misterioso II, Tarzan Boy b Alex Koslov, Lizmark Jr., Silver King
4) Atlantis, Averno, Ultimo Guerrero b Dr. Wagner Jr., Rey Bucanero, Shocker
5) LA Park, Super Parka, Volador Jr. b Damian 666, Hector Garza, Mr. Aguila

Lots of subs on the show, with Mistico, Perro and Negro Casas all missing, and the announced women’s trios opener instead turning into a minis tag. Attendance was 7,500, lower than the last show.

Marco Corelone is interviewed in the Miamia Herald and comes off very well, like a man who has a plan. (thanks to mike informer)

(Milenio Mexico City) Blue Demon Jr. is opening a store, although he’s hyping it as a cultural gallery, complete with his own artwork.

(Cambio Sonora) A new local group called Liga Municipal de Lucha Libre is starting in Hermosillo.

Notiver has an interview with police officer who’s a part-time wrestler. He says he wrestled as Bronco in Veracruz, and is now under a different mask.

Luchas 2000 #367 has Mistico’s injury.
Box Y Lucha #2818 has Ultimo’s Gran Prix win.

Some random lineups for this week:

CMLL (MON) 05/14 Arena Puebla [hugo999]
1) King Jaguar & Super Star vs La Mafia & Mr. Rafaga
2) Forajido, SWAT, the Tiger vs Fuerza Chicana, Toro Bill, Toro Bill Jr.
3) Centella de Oro, Leono, Tigre Rojo vs Loco Max, Misterioso II, Virus
4) La Mascara, Rey Bucanero, Volador Jr. vs Averno, Mephisto, Texano Jr.
5) Atlantis, Jushin Liger, Ultimo Guerrero vs Marco Corelone, Negro Casas, Ultimo Dragon

So Liger was staying till Monday but didn’t work Coliseo? (I think, haven’t seen those results.) I guess he just didn’t want to work a double shot on Sunday, which seems fair.

CMLL (TUE) 05/15 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Virgo vs Milenio
2) Exterminador vs Fraile de la Muerte
3) Golden vs Imposter
4) Ebola vs Depredador
5) Metalik vs Infierno
6) Gallo, Magnum, Rayman vs Euforia, Nosferatu, Satanico
7) Blue Panther & Vampiro vs Emilio Charles Jr. & Terrible

IWRG (THU) 05/17 Arena Naucalpan
1) Aguila Oriental vs Golem
2) Ave Fenix & Bacteria vs Macho II & Nemesis IWRG
3) Fabian el Gitano, Freelance, Turbo vs 911, AK47, Fierro
4) Dandy, Negro Navarro, Tony Rivera vs Enfermo Jr., Mascara Ano 2000 Jr., Pierroth Jr.
5) Black Warrior, Dr. Cerebro, Stuka Jr., Suicida vs CIMA, Don Fuji, Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi [copa High Power 2007]

911, AK47, Fierro are the latest iteration of the Oficials. Not sure where CIMA is the rest of the week. Everyon needs a vacation.

indy (THU) 05/17 Arena Olimpico Laguna de Gomez Palacion [Siglo de Torreon, Milenio Torreon]
1) Mago I & Scriba Jr. vs Fuego & Insolito
2) Aspid & Ricky Estrada vs Camorra & Moro Jr.
3) Angel de Oro, Indomable, Sexy Piscis vs Guerrero Inca, Piloto Negro, Sexy Francis
4) Hijo de Santo & Solar vs Espanto V & Mano Negra

It occurs to me that this is exactly the sort of booking Blue Demon Jr. gets, and that’s the danger of Santo’s standoff.

indy (SAT) 05/19 Deportivo Moctezuma
1) Aguila Oriental vs Golem
2) Ninja de Fuego & Pegaso (indy) vs Comando Mega & Volcan Negro
3) Antaris, Hombra Arana, Kung Fu Jr. vs Kraneo, Rambo Jr., Vampiro Metalico
4) Avisman & Kid Tiger vs Bacteria & Celestial [ri, losers advance, mask, hair]
5) Alex Koslov & Marco Corelone vs Misterioso Jr. & Universo 2000

This might be an IWRG show? It looks like that sort of lineup, but IWRG’s site is still down so I dunno. Bacteria and Avisman are the two unmasked guys in this match, I believe.

IWRG (SUN) 05/20 Arena Naucalpan
1) Antaris & Ave Fenix vs Avisman & Vampiro Metalico
2) Coco Rojo, Coco Verde, Cocolores vs 911, AK47, Fierro [super libre]
3) Hijo de Anibla, Mascara Sagrada, Veneno vs Pierroth II, Pierroth Jr., Takeda
4) Villano III, Villano IV, Villano V vs ?, Hijo de Cien Caras, Mascara Ano 2000 Jr.

AULL (SAT) 05/19 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Tortugillio Ninja vs Pequeno Porro
2) Haku, Mr. Potros, Yakuza vs Angel de Fuego, Infierno, Kilvan
3) Epidemia & Robin Maravilla vs Dr. Karonte & Psicopata [AULL TAG]
4) Sepulturero I vs Hermano Sepulturero [name]
5) King Star Tiger, Mano Negra Jr., Terry 2000 vs America Salvaje, Rey Krimen, Sadico
6) Heavy Metal, Rey Bucanero, Ultimo Gladiador vs Hirooki Goto, Ohara, Okumura
7) ?, Dos Caras Jr., Vampiro vs ??, Hijo de Cien Caras, Mano Negra

This is a big anniversary show for the building. First show Vampiro’s been in out of Guadalajara since starting back up.

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05/13: Mexico, VIP, TV notes


CMLL (FRI) 05/11 Arena Mexico [superluchas, ESTO]
1) Euforia, Nosferatu, Virus b Brillante, Leono, Stuka Jr.
2) Averno, Black Warrior, Mephisto b Felino, Heavy Metal, Negro Casas
3) Último Guerrero b Dr. Wagner Jr., Dos Caras Jr., Sagrado, Atlantis, Lizmark Jr., Rey Bucanero, Olímpico, Marco Corelone, Jushin Liger, Alex Koslov, Último Dragón, Hirooki Goto, Minoru Suzuki, Pierroth, Shigeo Okumura [Gran Prix, ciber]

It did indeed turn out to be a ciberentico, and 45 minute one at that. As seems to be the more common practice of late, most everything before the first elimination was cut out on TV. Ocampo has the elimination order, and the story points were

– Sagrado replaced Shocker (no explaination no show yet again). They seemed to give Sagrado the push they would’ve given Shocker, lasting to the final three over much usual higher profile guys. Wouldn’t be a bad idea to continue this trend – I think I’d like to see a summer long Sagrado/Ultimo feud as much as the proposed Shocker/Ultimo one, and I’m not sure there’s much of a difference in drawing power at this point.
– Alex and Atlantis got the token double elimination, so they may still be tied to each other for future matches.
– Ultimo and Rey teamed up a bit before Rey got tossed
– Minoru Suzuki got DQed on interference (Takayama came in and helped put the boots to Ultimo); no surprise the Triple Crown champ wasn’t taking a pinfall here
– Corelone pinned Dos after the Superman dive, and they teased that as future feud
– Liger pinned three men (Rey, the Doc, Sagrado) but was beaten by Ultimo Guerrero via Guerrero Special for the win.

Ultimo’s the first two time winner and first back to back winner. I think this means he’s entitled a shot at Open the Dream Gate championship, but please note only I think that.

The feud that was set up out of all this was…Negro Casas vs Black Warrior. Not sure why no Ephesto, except they needed Warrior in there to start a quickie hair match, which somehow came out of an otherwise unremarkable semimain. No date was announced, so I’m somewhat iffy on this, but from the reports and CMLL’s news update on it, we’re evidently supposed to take this seriously.

Opener was said to be good. It looks like Virus may have an alliance with the newest Infernals.

VIP (SAT) 05/12 Roots Magic Club [ESTO]
1) King Fish, Leon Guerrero, Super Nino b Black Heart, Halcon Guerrero, La Mosca
2) Coco Amarillo, Coco Azul, Coco Rojo b Axxel, Caramelo, Super Muneco
3) Negro Navarro & Solar I DRAW Black Terry & Mano Negra
4) Blue Demon Jr., El Dandy, Último Dragón b Villano III, Villano IV, Villano V

Odd sounding show – it reads as if either the commissioners want to enforce their powers on smaller shows, or there was just strangess. The Cocos came out for their match wearing their masks, and the comissioner demanded them to take off their masks (and they did.) Villano III wore his mask out for his match, and the same thing happened. I dunno. Dandy and Villano III ran in after the third match to demand to be in the next maestro match, and this led to a classic style tournament being announced for a future show.

Next Week’s Cards

CMLL (TUE) 05/15 Arena Coliseo
1) Pequeno Olimpico & Tzuki vs Fire & Sombrita
2) Danger, Sombra de Plata, Trueno vs Arkangel, Dr. X, Jeque
3) Fabian el Gitano, Ogun, Valiente vs Hijo de Pierroth, Ohara, Okumura
4) Felino, Heavy Metal, Negro Casas vs Misterioso II, Texano Jr., Virus
5) Dos Caras Jr., Lizmark Jr., Marco Corelone vs Averno, Black Warrior, Mephisto

I’m good with this not being taped. This is the first time NJPW tag partners Negro and Texano will oppose each other.

CMLL (FRI) 05/18 Arena Mexico
1) Mini Fantasy & Ultimo Dragonicto vs Pequeno Violencia & Pierrothito
2) Hiroka, Mima Shimoda, Princesa Sugeith vs Dark Angel, Diana la Cazadora, Marcela
3) Minoru, Takayama, Terrible vs Dos Caras Jr., Marco Corelone, Ultimo Dragon
4) Hijo de Perro Aguayo vs Negro Casas, Felino, Tarzan Boy, Mephisto, Maximo, Alex Koslov, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr., Mascara Purpura [LdP, ciber]
5) Dr. Wagner vs Atlantis

I don’t like the tecnicos chances in the tercera. We’ll break down the Cibernetico later in the week, but I will note here that I expect Mistico to get pulled from the 05/25 cibernetico, much like Atlantis was last year.

CMLL (SUN) 05/20 Arena Coliseo
1) Astro Boy & Sensei vs Polvora & Vaquero
2) Tigre Blanco, Tigre Metalico, Tony Rivera vs Dr. X, Hooligan, Nitro
3) Brillante, Mascara Purpura, Mictlan vs Euforia, Nosferatu, Virus
4) Felino, La Mascara, Maximo vs Ephesto, Hijo de Pierroth, Pierroth
5) Atlantis, Olimpico, Ultimo Guerrero vs Hirooki Goto, Minoru, Takayama

Whichever show gets stuck with the semimain is the loser for sure. Note Virus teaming up with his new boys, and I believe it was Robert who noted it’s Euforia and Brillante should’ve worked previously, having started in the same area.

TV Round Up

AAA airings were as expected.

05/06: Dark Angel, India Sioux, Sahori b Hiroka, Princesa Sujei, Rosa Negra
05/11: Averno, Black Warrior, Mephisto b Felino, Heavy Metal, Negro Casas
05/11: Gran Prix

05/04: Euforia, Nosferatu, Satánico b La Máscara, Mictlán, Virus
05/06: Dr. Wagner Jr., Marco Corelone, Negro Casas b Atlantis, Olímpico, Tarzan Boy

05/06: Euforia, Nosferatu, Satánico b Felino, Mictlán, Tony Rivera
05/06: Alex Koslov, Neutrón (though the show open lists Maximo), Último Dragón b Mephisto, Misterioso II, Virus

Feature for both shows was various bits from the Lucha Libre Expo, but FSE started with a Warrior clip and GdR started with Mistico talking about his injury. Haven’t had a chance to watch any of the shows indepth yet.


CMLL: Gran Prix highlights.

AAA: Sect vs Mexican Powers from Oaxaca

IWRG’s site is still down.

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Joe Versus The World – 53: Alex Koslov & thecubsfan [lucha]

It’s a lucha double shot at JVSTW, as first CMLL star Alex Koslov joins us straight from Mexico City to discuss how he got into wrestling, training at the Inoki Dojo and going to Mexico, working the lucha style in front of huge crowds, thoughts on Mistico, Marco Corleone and others, and a lot more. Then the Cubs Fan joins us for a quick rundown of the big lucha headlines, including Mistico’s injury, Perro Aguayo Jr’s rising star, will Santo return? And much more, including is there crying in lucha?, mathematic luchadores, the evil couch, and much more! Over fifty minutes of lucha fun!

To listen to this show, right click to download the mp3 file here, subscribe to the RSS feed @, or add it to your iTunes Podcasts by clicking here.

We thank Alex Koslov for coming on the show.

thecubsfan has been on to talk about lucha in December, July, and last April.

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