12/04 CMLL Arena Mexico lineup (Sin Salida)

CMLL (FRI) 12/04 Arena Mexico
1) Pegasso, Rey Cometa, Rouge vs Hooligan, Loco Max, Skándalo
2) Mascarita Dorada vs Pequeño Damian 666 [lightning]
3) Brazo de Plata, La Máscara, Máximo vs Felino, Misterioso II, Negro Casas
4) Héctor Garza, Místico, Strong Man vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
5) La Sombra & Volador Jr. vs Ephesto & Mephisto [CMLL TAG]
6) Terrible & Texano Jr. vs Naito & Yujiro [hair]

As it turns out, the tag team title match does make the card. Still seems odd to have two tag matches on top. CMLL did book Mistico on the show, so they’re going to do fine, it’s just an odd arrangement (unless they’re planning on the two winning teams meeting down the road.)

As usual with CMLL cards, not a lot going on besides the main event. Ultimo Guerrero, totally done with Guerreros del Atlantida, continues to team up with Atlantis as if nothing’s changed. 3rd match is a team of the Brazos, which will become a trend. Clearly comedy in that.

Understatement of the day: CMLL could’ve found someone better for that opener than Rouge.

Minis lighting match should be really good, and so should the tag title one. Just hard to get excited when thse shows have had a habit of not making TV, or not turning up until months later.

12/11 AAA TV Lineup (Madero, Guerra de Titanes)

AAA TV (FRI) 12/11 Centro de Convenciones, Ciudad Madero, Tamaulipas [Kapo86 @ SML]
1) Mascarita Divina vs Mini Histeria, Mascarita Sagrada 2007, Mini Charly Manson, Mini Psicosis, La Parkita, Octagoncito, Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Chessman [AAA MINI, battle royal]
2) El Elegido, Extreme Tiger, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Electroshock, Silver King, Último Gladiador
3) Jack Evans & Marco Corleone vs Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario [AAA TAG]
4) Fabi Apache vs Sexy Star [mask, hair]
5) La Parka Jr., Latin Lover, Octagón, Rocky Romero vs Alex Koslov, Chessman, Teddy Hart, Zorro
6) Cibernético vs Konnan [street]
7) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs El Mesías [AAA HEAVY]

2009 AAA TV chart
Projected Air Date (#917 & #918)
Mexico: 12/20, 12/27
US: 01/02, 01/09

The big show to end the year. Wagner/Mesias and Konnan/Cibernetico are as previously announced.

AAA’s twitter, when teasing the matches for this show (without actually listing them all yet), said there’d be an AAA vs Legion match for the 2010 Rey de Reyes title shot. Presumably, that’s match 5, though it’s not specified on the poster. This would seem to indicate Dr. Wagner isn’t losing and getting a rematch, though plans can change.

Not sure how good of an idea it is to set a challenger 4 months before the match, when all their post-title shot ideas are “run uneventful trios involving both wrestlers” and “run two uneventful triso matches, where each title match participant get to win a match.” Not the most compelling TV.

Of the 8, Rocky, Alex and Teddy have never been treated like contenders to the heavyweight title. Octagon in a 10-15 singles match at this point in his career would be a very bad idea. La Parka too, but that hasn’t stopped him before. There’s no telling if Latin Lover will still be around in March – he’s here and gone a lot, and you’d want the champion to be full time. Chessman got the shot last year at Rey de Reyes. I can’t see them doing Mesias/Chessman again, but they have set up a Wagner/Chessman match. Zorro has been completely marginalized since TripleMania, but they could always throw him in against either guy.

Fabi Apache and Sexy Star finally have their blow off match. When AAA brought in Rain, Jennifer Blade, and everyone else, it seemed like they were just going to let this drift away without resolving it. Instead, those women come off as a pointless digression thus far (why waste all that time on them without doing a big match? – they should’ve come in after this feud was done.) Aero and Billy are supposed to be in their respective corners, and all four of those people are supposed to be in hair/mask match just two days later in Guadalajara at the FMLL show. Probably going to be a bad weekend for one couple.

AAA should’ve taken the tag team titles of Lider & Nicho a long time ago, but they haven’t, so it’s fruitless to hope that they’ll do it now. Jack & Marco seem like an interesting team, it gives Marco something to do, and it breaks Jack out of facing the same guys every week.

Second match is usual WagnerManiacs vs AAA trios.

Opener is listed as a battle royal with the AAA minis title on the line. Mini Charly Manson is champ, but I suppose he makes up for not defending the belt in a year and a half by defending against 7 people at once. Math sorta works with that.

After this, it’s just the annual last taping of the year in Chilpanicgo, and they’re done until January.

12/06 AAA TV Lineup (Monterrey)

AAA TV (SUN) 12/06 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [RFC]
1) Laredo Kid, Mari Apache, Mini Charly Manson, Pimpinela Escarlata vs La Hechicera, Mini Abismo Negro, Tigre Cota, Yuriko
2) Aerostar & Fabi Apache vs Billy Boy & Sexy Star [AAA MIXED TAG]
3) El Elegido & Rocky Romero vs Alex Koslov & Kenzo Suzuki
4) Jack Evans & Marco Corleone vs Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario
5) El Mesías, La Parka Jr., Latin Lover vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Silver King, Último Gladiador

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#916)
Mexico: 12/13
US: 12/26

A little bit of action, as they scramble to get the undercard in place for Guerra de Titanes. In usual form, that means the angles to set up those matches will air after Guerra de Titanes is taped.

Main event we already knew.

Jack/Marco vs Lider/Nicho sets up a tag team title match for GdT, as you’ll see when we get to that lineup. They’ve been moving on that direction on TV, so it’s not a big surprise.

Wasn’t actually expecting Fabi & Aero to ever get around to defending those titles, so it’s nice that they do make the one logical defense they can before the whole thing is forgot. That too is setting up a match for GdT, and I bet you can guess it.

Five matches, so everything should air.

Mexico, Monterrey, Super Porky sponsored

CMLL (TUE) 11/24 Arena Mexico
1) Disturbio & Semental b Molotov & Súper Camaleón
2) Mima Shimoda, Princesa Sujei, Zeuxis b Estrella Mágica, Lady Apache, Lluvia
3) Euforia, Pólvora, Virus b Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata
4) Blue Panther, Brazo de Plata, Máximo b Felino, Ray Mendoza Jr., Shigeo Okumura
5) Máscara Dorada b Negro Casas

Dorada lost the first, but came back to win two straight. He’d like that title match now.

Tecnicos won the semimain in straight falls when the rudos got DQed in the first for excessive violence on Maximo.

AAA (SUN) 11/22 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Angel Dorado Jr. & Sky b Epidemius & TDN [AAA NORTH TAG]
2) Baby Rap, Laredo Kid, Máscara Púrpura b Golden Boy, Rey Demonio, Simbolo
3) May Flowers, Pimpinela Escarlata, Yuriko b Black Mamba, Caifan Rockero I, Rey Infernal
4) Sobredosis b Hombre Sin Miedo [NORTH MIDDLE]
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Electroshock DQ Nicho el Millionario & Ozz

Both title matches were title changes. Nicho pulled Wagner’s mask for the DQ.

On Google, “Cancerberos Infernales” translates to “Moderator & Software Editor”. See, Google takes user suggestions for translations, and probably could use a better approval algorithm for them. CMLL’s recap says the tecs won that, though a box y lucha post says Euforia got away with a foul to win, and has a picture of one of the Angels still selling the blow. EH.

Mima replaced Princesa Blanca in the second. And the whole rudo side changed in the opener.

AAA put a post up hinting about the matches at Guerra de Titanes. BUt the poster is already floating out there, so the hints aren’t really that necessary.

CMLL held another press conference today, which included the lineup for the 12/04 show. I’ll get to it in it’s own post, but the other news:

– Brazo de Plata is now being sponsored by Rotoplas, a water container and plumbing company. Apparently, their water tanks are everywhere. I am scared of the ideas you could come up with Super Porky and plumbing. He’ll have new gear.

– Christmas and New Year’s fall on Friadys this year. CMLL will be running special shows for those days, at an early 5pm start time. (Which means they’ll end about the time they usually start.) They’ll also have a special show on January 6th (3 Kings Day), and the Tuesday Arena Mexico show that week (11/28?) will be moved to Wednesday in Arena Coliseo.

Fuego en el Ring has an interview with Satanico about his career. Worth reading, even if I didn’t remember to pull a quote. They also to talk to Terrible, who likes hearing his name mentioned as going to Japan, but will not actually believe until he has the plane ticket in his hand. Smart man.

The Gladiatores has video interviews with Lady Apache and promoter Jose Contreras.

Cronicas and Leyendas looks back at Wolf Rubinskis, Estrella Blanca, and Tortugas Ninjas. Speaking of, the IWRG Turtle appears to be Leonardo.

Box Y Lucha talks to the Brazos (like the other interviews from a few weeks ago), Tirantes, Psicosis, Histeria about their names (same as usual – Psi and Histeria have started adding Xtreme to their names anyway), and the new Karis La Momia (who says he’s got permission from Parka.) Also, Villano III tells a story about how Kung Fu sleeping in his car before a show ended with Los Fantasticos being thrown in jail.

DTU posts promos from Shiima Xion and Drake Younger on Tercera Caida about the DTU/CZW show on Saturday.

CMLL (MON) 11/30 Arena Puebla
1) Milenium & SWAT vs Crazy Black & Toro Bill Sr.
2) Blue Center & Pegasso vs Fuerza Chicana & Policeman
3) Lady Apache vs Lluvia, Dalis la Caribeña, Marcela, Estrella Mágica, Hiroka, Zeuxis, Princesa Blanca, La Nazi, Princesa Sujei [#1 Contenders, CMLL WOMEN]
4) Héctor Garza, Místico, Shocker vs Terrible, Texano Jr., Vangelis
5) Averno vs Volador Jr. [NWA MIDDLE]

A lot of stuff packed in here for whatever reason. Mostly just the way the schedule works out.

Averno/Volador’s been set up the last few weeks. Vangelis teaming up with Terrible & Texano finally gets him a shot against Mistico. Vangelis’ whole deal for coming to CMLL was to get the Mexican Light Heavyweight title back from Mistico (Mistico still holds it, even if they forgot) – this is the first time they’ve met in 2 years.

Amapola hasn’t defended her belt since July, so it’s nice they actually are doing something with it. It doesn’t appear to take much to get a shot to become the top women’s wrestler in the world; forget all the others novatas, Dalis La Caribena has wrestled all of one match and is as close to the title as the national champ. Kinda surprising that Marcela & Hiroka are scheduled back working here but none of the guys from the France tour turn up.

indy (TUE) 12/01 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Infinito & Solovino vs Lover Boy & Sangre Negra
2) Aguila Extrema & Gato Fantasma vs Gemelo Muerte I & Gemelo Muerte II
3) Diluvio Negro II, Furor, Mongol Chino vs Bengali, Difunto I, Difunto II
4) Hijo del Ninja, Potro Jr., Silver Star vs Pierko el Boricua, Sergio Romo Jr., Zumbido
5) Ángel Dorado & Koko Viper vs Angel Night & Sky [Relevos Increíbles, hair, mask]

Two TV tapings and CMLL’s big show lineup to come.

more than you wanted to know about the CMLL bodybuilding contest

CMLL held it’s annual bodybuilding contest on Wednesday. If you want to know, it’s past the link.

The wrestling wise vital information is Dark Angel, Inquisador, Electrico, Molotov, and maybe indy mini Astral are supposed to get rewarded with a higher card position (it is going to be December soon, no one will notice.) Also, Ultimo Dragoncito is still not back in the ring, but apparently feels good enough to pose.


11/28-29 Lucha Times

box. Guess who STILL isn’t getting the newly available Latino channels? This guy right here. They were supposed to be on my cable system on Halloween. I’m all out of candy.

(Wait, no, Twix bars. Not a big fan of Twix.)

AAA-US: the amazing debut of Mantra (who hasn’t been seen since.) Mesias vs Wagner in a trios, Alex/Teddy/Zorro vs Marco/Pimpi/Rocky

52MX: CMLL Air Force vs Tuareg, Cancerbros vs Dorada/Maximo/Rouge

CMLL: top 3 means a No Limit/Terrible/Texano rematch, plus Guerreros/Niebla vs Strong Man/Shocker/Garza

AAA: Looks to be 2 hours slot, so figuring just the top 4. Maybe not even, depending on how much time went to the big Cibernetico angle. Low chance of the minis airing, high chance of the Mesias/Latin/Marco vs Lider/Konnan/Nicho trios.

CMLL-FOX: women, and Mistico/Garza/Panther vs Atlantis/Negro/UG

AAA-FOX: repeat of last week.

C3: top 4 from the results I hasn’t seen

Puebla: 3:30pm start this week, maybe with enough romo for all five.

Monterrey: Wagner/Electrshock vs Nicho/Ozz.

IWRG: they skipped a week last week, so now they’re six days behind – Dinamitas vs Angelico, Alebrije, Hijo del Lizmark

Puebla, Guadalajara, Mendoza

Negro Casas/CMLL
Negro Casas (and everyone else)/CMLL

CMLL (MON) 11/23 Arena Puebla [R de Rudos, sportimes]
1) Asturiano & King Jaguar b Ares & Sauron
2) Diamante, Guerrero Maya Jr., Lestat b Aguila Guerrera, Artillero, Súper Comando
3) Eléctrico, Mascarita Dorada, Shockercito b Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Warrior
4) Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Blue Panther, Brazo de Plata, Máximo
5) La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

Main event went less about 10 minutes. Straight falls for the tecnicos, setting up a Volador/Averno NWA Middleweight title match for next month.

CMLL (TUE) 11/24 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Metatrón & Nube Roja b Katana & Relampago
2) Metatrón & Saturno b Acertijo & Egipcio
3) Fabián el Gitano b Neutrón, Hierro, Palacio Negro, Horus, Arkangel de la Muerte, Ángel del Mal, Skándalo, Infierno, León Blanco [cibernetico]
4) Shocker & Toscano b Terrible & Texano Jr.

Shocker pinned Texano with a German suplex, then demanded a shot at the NWA Light Heavyweight Championship. That’s not the title that I thought they were headed towards, but OK. Texano accepted and it’ll be on for next week.

Fabian el Gitano beat Arkangel to win a random cibernetico. Arkangel losing to Fabian el Gitano is why the Tuareg can not be my group of the year.

CMLL (TUE) 12/01 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino vs Exterminador
2) In Memoria & Malefico vs Angelo & Metatrón
3) Acertijo, Asesino Negro, Drago vs Astaroth, Hierro, Metal Blanco
4) Brazo de Plata, Máximo, Sagrado vs Atlantis, Naito, Yujiro
5) Shocker vs Texano [NWA LH]

Beside the title match, this show is notable for CMLL moving closer to it’s goal of a full show of people with only one name. (Also, No Limit with their hair in GDL for the last time?)

All we need now is someone to challenge Mephisto for the NWA Welterweight Championship next week for the complete set. I nominate, uh…Metro! Why not.

CMLL’s posted photos but not results from the Arena Mexico show. Looks like usual attendance (bad.) I can work out the finishes to all the matches except the main event (which almost looks like Dorada won by countout.) It would seem like that’s the only one that should matter, but that’s sadly wrong – the Cancerberos lost to the Angels. They’re not going anywhere, and I’m starting to wonder if I should be mentally ranking the Tuareg ahead of them.

Tickets will go on sale for Terrible/Texano vs No Limit today. Prices are 40 to 400 pesos ($3.10 to $31.08USD), which seems significantly cheaper than comparable major shows. That’ll help.

The CMLL bodybuilding contest was supposed to be today, but I haven’t heard anything about it since it was announced. Presume it’s still on.

Ray Mendoza explains to R de Rudo that CMLL wanted Okumura in with No Limit for the hair match feud – because they wanted the Hijos del Averno to have an actual chance. The ex-Villano V would just wipe the floor with those guys.

SuperLuchas reposts a quote of Mistico sending well wishes out to Pierroth, while he was in town working Arena Isabel.

One of the writers for The Gladiatores got punched in the face at Arena San Juan Pantitlan show. That sucks.

AAA (SUN) 11/29 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [LMdLL]
1) Golden Boy, Rey Demonio Jr., Simbolo vs Angel Dorado Jr., Sky, Street Boy
2) May Flowers, Pasion Kristal, Yuriko vs Black Mamba, Caifan Rockero I, Rey Infernal
3) Joe Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana vs Aerostar, Babe Rap, Máscara Púrpura
4) Hombre Sin Miedo vs Sobredosis [mask]

Also, Lo Mejor de La Lucha has Latin Lover, Mesias, and La Parka Jr. vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Silver King, and Ultimo Gladiador as the main event of the 12/06 TV taping here. It’s the last taping before Guerra de Titanes, and that’ll be the last show of the year for the AAA affiliated Cantu promotion shows in Arena Coliseo Monterrey. They may have the full lineup tomorrow.

the top 6 stories of the last 2 week

  1. Dr. Wagner Jr. & Mesias to meet in a dome cage match at Guerra de Titanes, in Mesias’ last shot
  2. Texano & Terrible vs No Limit will meet in a hair match is set for 12/04
  3. Konnan and Cibernetico to have unsanctioned street fight Guerra de Titanes
  4. CMLL & NJPW talk about talent sharing in Mexico, including the 01/04 Tokyo Dome show.
  5. CMLL beats AAA in TV ratings, two straight weeks
  6. Okumura upset Maximo in a hair match on 11/15

Question of the fortnight: does CMLL even know they beat AAA in ratings two straight weeks?

More on those stories, and others, after the link

Coliseo, AAA taping schedule, LA Park

CMLL (SUN) 11/22 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Artillero & Súper Comando b Rayo Tapatío I & Rayo Tapatío II
2) Dark Angel, Estrella Mágica, Star Fire b Mima Shimoda, Yezca, Zeuxis
3) Pegasso, Rey Cometa, Starman DQ Dr. X, Hooligan, Loco Max
4) Máscara Dorada, Máximo, Rouge b Euforia, Pólvora, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, Místico b Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

CMLL’s recap says “if not for the loss, it would’ve been a perfect debut for Cancerberos.” That is true, but the loss takes away pretty much all of it. CMLL!

The recap says Mr. Niebla wrestled in the main event, but Negro Casas is in all the pictures. Oh well.

Rudos got DQed for taking Starman’s mask.

AAA’s listed it’s final TV tapings for the year. It’ll work something like this:

                  MEX   USA
11/20 Orizaba         11/29 12/12
??/?? ??????????      12/06 12/19 - nothing announced
12/06 Monterrey (ACM) 12/13 12/26
12/11 Madero          12/20 01/02
                      12/27 01/09
Best of #1?           01/04 01/17
Best of #2?           01/11 01/24
12/18 Chilpancingo    01/18 01/31

(They haven’t announced the Best Ofs, but let’s assume they just do them as they normally do. The Chilpancingo date is confirmed.)

Not sure what the deal is with the one missing taping; there’s nothing for the 12/06 weekend. They tape Arena Coliseo Monterrey the same day, but not until hours after the show airs. Either they’ve got one more they’re about to announce really soon, they’re planning on airing a rerun, or they know they’ll be pre-empted this weekend or next.

In CMLL, tonight’s the Mascara Dorada vs Negro Casas main event. ESTO has the preview.

The director of the CMLL France (EFM) tour says “it’s not been a total success, but a victory

In Reforma, LA Park wants to be credited as the best hardcore wrestler there is. He talks about traveling to ECW and WCW to face the best wrestlers in matches with barbed wire, fire, explosions, and tacks. I must’ve missed that Nitro. Park says extreme isn’t hitting someone with light tubes, it’s gotta be something where your life is in danger and the audience leaves happy. Park talks about how long the memories of his matches with Sabu & Sandman will last with his fans.

Cronicas and Leyendas looks back at Art Barr, 15 years later and Canek vs Inoki.

Des de Ringside talks to Pasion Cristal about his career.

DJ Spectro reposts his interview with Vulanco.

Penisular Quadrilaterial reposts their Box Y Lucha article about Yucatan wrestlers Rayo de Plato and Drako.

Kcids has sad Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero break up. The really crazy thing about this, if this sticks (not sure it will, what other rudos is solo UG going to be teaming up anyway?), we all they’d do the big split one day to get Atlantis back to the tecnico side, and perhaps to have UG get his mask. Guess not?

Random Fire sighting! Note, he’s wearing his mask. Apparently, a lucha libre match was part of Japanese day on a street in Mexico City. Shrug.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Ras de Lona #73 has tecnicos vs rudos in futbol!. This match pretty much illustrates the differences in ages between the two sids.

IWRG (THU) 11/26 Arena Naucalpan
1) Dinamita Kid vs Comando Negro
2) Eragon & Miss Gaviota vs ? & Vampiro Metálico
3) Exodia, Pendulo, Ultramán Jr. vs Dr. Cerebro, Gringo Loco, Oficial Fierro
4) Avisman vs Bushi [IWRG LIGHT]
5) Angelico, Pantera, Super Porky vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Oficial 911

Like Sunday for Rayo, this is for Panter’s 25 years of professional wrestling. He just hit 24 on 11/05.

indy (SUN) 12/13 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [LMdLL]
1) Angel Dorado Jr., Gato Fantasma, Sky vs Dralion, Furor, Lover Boy
2) Coliseo 2000, Gato Volador, Hijo del Ninja, Zodaico vs Astro Jr., Bengali, Dark Shadow, Koko Viper
3) Black Spirit, Diluvio Negro II, Potro Jr., Tigre Universitario vs Difunto I, Difunto II, Vaquero Romo, X-Fly
4) Hijo del Rey Misterio, Incógnito, LA Park vs Charly Manson, Damián 666, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo
5) Silver Star vs Diluvio Negro I, Pierko el Boricua [mask]

11/29 AAA Lucha Libre Premier (Six Flags Mexico)

AAA LLP (SUN) 11/29 Six Flags Mexico [AAA]
1) Fabi Apache, Jennifer Blake, Mascarita Divina vs Mini Histeria, Rain, Sexy Star
2) Marco Corleone, Pimpinela Escarlata, Rocky Romero vs Decnnis, Kenzo Suzuki, Polvo de Esterllas
3) Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Extreme Tiger vs Chessman, Teddy Hart, Electroshock
4) Alex Koslov & Cibernético vs Crazy Boy & Jack Evans

projected air date
Mexico: 12/05 (rerun on 12/12), 12/19 (rerun on 12/26)
US: does not air in the US

Had to make sure to use the colors here. In fact, had to throw in a couple more colors to point out the WagnerManiacs and the completely unclear status of Cibernetico at the moment.  These teams are completely divorced from alliances – that has to be the point, right? Even though there’s nothing on the website to actually point that out? Either that, or the CMLL match selecting hat has jumped. There’s not one match with everyone on each side getting along.

Relevant point standings, as counted by AAA

15 Jack Evans
15 Dr. Wagner Jr.
12 Pimpinela 
11 Marco Corleone
09 Elegido
09 Mesias

A wrestler can theoretically pick up a maximum of 7 points per show (3 points for the win, 3 points for the direct pinfall/submission, 1 point for the arbitrary Move Of The Show), leaving just these 6 as possible winners coming into this final taping. Obviously, Elegido’s not on the taping, so cut it down to 5.

Even more so, cut it to 4 – Mesias has no chance of winning. Even if Mesias picks up all 7 points, goes to 16 and everything else goes in his favor, he’ll still get passed by his partner Dr. Wagner Jr., who will get to 18 with a Mesias win.

As for the other four

– Marco has to get the direct pinfall to have a chance to take the championship, and Jack & Wagner have to lose their matches for Marco to do better than tying.

– If Pimpi gets the direct fall and the bonus ponus point, Wagner & Jack can’t simple have their teams win, but need to either pick a direct pinfall or a bonus point of their own.

– Jack & Wagner are about equal, and the favorites.

Jack seems like the best bet. He’s not stuck with a partner who he’s feuding with and has a good shot of picking up a bonus point. (Until they change the whole system again to give Mesias the win.)

Among the women…

06 Faby Apache
06 Rain
03 Mary Apache - not on this show
03 Koa - not on this show
02 Sexy Star
00 Jennifer Blake

Which ever side wins the opener is the high women. Blake and Star can’t catch up, with pushing Fabi & Rain higher past them.

The only minis who have points aren’t on this show. Perfect.