CMLL CAN52 GdR #104

CMLL CAN52 Guerrero del Ring #104, taped 11/09 and 11/11, aired 11/17

Opener was not only cut down but the finish was so random. It was not as if Misterioso was screwed by the ref and was going for revenge or as if Misterioso was trying to kick Volador and got the ref. He just kicked the ref in the head! I do not think this is going anywhere – it was a ref bump for the sake of a ref bump in the last place you would expect it.

Main event was less cameraman shenanigans but more Monito shenanigans. Funny that the only one not making the hair challenges was Shocker.

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11/19: Xalapa, Coliseo, Monterrey

CMLL (THU) 11/15 Arena Xalapa [EL SANTÓN @ box y lucha]
1) Gabriel o Gabriela & Gore b Crazyman & Rey Garfio Jr.
2) Caballero Negro Jr., Guerrero del Infierno, Perro Mocho Jr. b Cosmos, Jaguar, Samuray
3) La Sombra, Sagrado, Volador Jr. DRAW Mascara Purpura, Stuka Jr., Valiente
4) Blue Panther, Mistico, Rey Bucanero b Averno, Black Warrior, Ultimo Guerrero
5) LA Park b Pierroth [hair]

Main event was a total hardcore match – barbed wire, lightbulb tubes, fire – everything CMLL complains about AAA, actually. You can see pictures if you scroll thru that thread. ESTO has a post match photo. Blue Panther replaced Shocker. Tercera went to a draw, and the two teams agreed to a title match.

CMLL (SUN) 11/18 Arena Coliseo [ovaciones]
1) Atomo & Fantasy b Fire & Pequeno Black Warrior
2) Lady Apache, Luna Magica, Marcela b Amapola, Hiroka, Mima Shimoda
3) Euforia, Mr. México, Nosferatu b Fabián el Gitano, Leono, Mictlán
4) Felino, La Máscara, Negro Casas b Ephesto, Mephisto, Sangre Azteca
5) Dos Caras Jr., Marco Corelone, Shocker b el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Terrible, Texano Jr.

Ovaciones says Perro let his teammates do all the work in the later stages of the main event. I don’t know if that means he bailed on them, or if it was just business as usual. Mr. Mexico snuck in a low blow on Leono to continue that feud. They made challenges for next Sunday, and I’ll get to that in a sec. Lady Apache got a bit of revenge on Amapola.

CMLL (SUN) 11/25 Arena Coliseo
1) Sombra de Plata & Trueno vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Lady Apache, Marcela, Princesa Blanca vs Amapola, La Seductora, Rosa Negra
3) Fabián el Gitano, Leono, Mascara Purpura vs Euforia, Mr. México, Nosferatu
4) Alex Koslov, Rey Bucanero, Sagrado vs Villano III, Villano IV, Villano V
5) Blue Panther, Marco Corelone, Negro Casas vs Atlantis, Olímpico, Último Guerrero

This is the final show in Arena Coliseo until construction is finished. I presume they decided to hold Mexico/Leono over for one week to have a notable match to push for the first Sunday show in Arena Mexico. (They may have failed at ‘notable’, but what are you going to do.) Seems like they’re setting up an Amapola/Apache rematch on this day of the week. I should probably note the Villanos are back together.

AAA (SUN) 11/18 Expo Feria Durango
5) Antifaz del Norte, Batman del Futuro, Hijo del Soberano b Drako, Ghefar, Sangre Chicana

Intocable was supposed to be in the main event (instead of Batman del Futuro), but was said to be injuried in Salamanca. Everyone with a ticket stub can use it for a free ticket to the AAA show next month in town (with Octagon, Martha Villalobos, and Nygma.)

AAA (SUN) 11/18 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [RFC]
1) Dranser & Euforia (Monterrey) b Scravos & Shenky
2) Dr. Cianuro, Guerrero Blanco, Virtual b Baby Fox, Criminal, Iron
3) Mari Apache & Mini Abismo Negro b Mini Chessman & Sexy Star
4) Rey Cometa & Super Fly b Guerrero Negro Jr. & Sangre Chicana Jr.
5) Espíritu & Ozz b Crazy Boy & Joe Lider

CMLL (MON) 11/19 Arena Puebla
1) Blue Center & King Jaguar vs Espiritu Maligno & Karisma
2) Centella de Oro, the Tigre, Tigre Rojo vs Fuerza Chicana, Mr. Rafaga, Siki Ozama
3) Mascarita Dorada, Shockercito, Tzuki vs Mr. Aguilita, Pequeño Damian 666, Pierrothito
4) La Sombra, Sagrado, Volador Jr. vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
5) Marco Corelone, Místico, Rey Bucanero vs Atlantis, Black Warrior, Olímpico

Hmmm, Mexican Trios champions teaming up in the semimain against a team which would sure work as challengers. Maybe we get a title match here too.

CMLL VIP (SAT) 12/08 Velvet Mexico [TAKER @ el Martinete]
1) Sombra 2 & Trueno vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Luna Magica & Marcela vs Amapola & Hiroka
3) Stuka Jr. & Valiente vs Nitro & Volador Jr.
4) La Sombra & Sagrado vs Mephisto & Misterioso II
5) Místico, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero vs Atlantis, Averno, Black Warrior

Who’s Sombra 2?

AAA (MON) 11/19 Arena Cuatro Caminos [RFC]
1) Martha Villalobos & Sexy Star vs Lady Star & Xochitl Hamada
2) Insolito & Maravilla Lopez vs Rio Bravo & Tito Santana II [AAA NORTH TAG]
3) Hermano Diablo I, Hermano Diablo II, Hermano Diablo III vs Baby Rap, Sangre Chicana Jr., Sky
4) Hombre Sin Miedo, Juventud Guerrera, Octagón vs Antifaz del Norte, Fuerza Guerrera, Pirata Morgan

El Siglo de Torreon has notes form Gran Markus’ funeral, and quotes from Felino and Mascara Ano 2000

Mr. Reyes @ box y lucha (and other places!) has pictures from this week’s AULL show. Recap coming in thegladiatores.

Man robs 7-Eleven in ‘Nacho Libre’ mask” – actually, looks like a Rey Misterio mask, but all lucha masks are now Nacho Libre masks to US media. I did not commit this crime. Just thought I’d mention that.

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11/18: Neza, highlights

CMLL (THU) 11/15 Arena Neza [heri99]
1) Angus & Hijo de Acero b Crismar & Renegado
2) Rayo Tapatío I & Rayo Tapatío II b Pólvora & Vaquero
3) Ohara, Shigeo Okumura, Súper Comando b Ángel Azteca Jr., Metálico, Stuka Jr.
4) Pequeño Olímpico b Gitanito [mask]
5) Damián 666, Mr. Águila, Terrible DQ Ephesto, Mephisto, Universo 2000

Mask win was not with controversy, as Gitanito may have had his foot on the ropes on the final pin, but the ref did not see it. Gitanito – this one, at least – is Cristian Armando Hernandez Garcia, 13 years a wrestler, from Mexico City. That name doesn’t turn up anything in luchawiki and there are no pictures yet. The recap says this match was taped for the satellite shows – maybe it’ll turn up in clip form, like the minis hair match?

Universo fouled Mr. Aguila in the main event.

Speaking of mini identities, speculation is the new Mini Black Warrior is the old Mini Psicosis

Accion highlights:

CMLL: Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero Averno vs Mistico, Blue Panther, Dos Caras Jr., heavy on the Mistico highlights. Averno reversed La Mistica into a faceslam for the clean clean clean win. Averno’s gotta be losing in a major way soon; I was thinking we might actually get the mask match for the Year End Show, but I don’t think they’ll do that and a hair match. Perhaps Mistico goes thru Averno to get back to four titles instead.

AAA: Cibernetico, La Parka Jr. vs Mesias, Zorro from Veracruz. We get one armdrag before the run-ins. Mesias is making full use of his belt (by hitting people with it). Hijo de Tirantes gives it to the tecnicos by DQ.

Someone at Azteca America fixed the DeporTV copy protection issue. Thanks!

2) Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito b Pequeño Olímpico, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito
Olimpicito schools Mini Damian, but his partners drop the ball and get beat for a fall. And that’s all they show of that one, huh.

5) Marco Corelone, Místico, Valiente b Black Warrior, Sangre Azteca, Último Guerrero
Picked up during a beatdown, with Corelone taking UG’s headstand sit, Valiente taking Sangre’s low blow dropkick, and Corleone taking the GdI sit on the outside. Mistico takes nothing and starts the comeback with avoidance to set up a Corelone plancha Valiente starts giving everyone a backbreaker, and the tecnicos line up the rudo for the Superman dive. Moving onto another fall, Corleone tosses Evil Monkey around, Mistico sends out Sangre with a headscissors, Mistico sends UG out and follows with a headscissors. Valiente defeats Sangre clean with a seated armbar, and the other tecnicos clear out the other rudos.

Only two matches. That’s odd. FWIW, the camera position this week often stared across the ring towards the CMLL announce desk. There didn’t appear to be anyone sitting there.

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CMLL 12/07 main event is Warrior/ToscanoLizmark Jr. vs Shocker/Bucanero confirmed what was mentioned on the TV show over the weekend: the 12/07 CMLL End Of Year Main Event is Shocker and Rey Bucanero vs Black Warrior and Toscano. You could say this feud has loosely been going on for a while (at least Rey vs Tarzan), but it’s mostly something they’ve just thrown together this week. CMLL’s not definitive on the match having one or two hairs on the line, but I assume it’s two.

I think Black Warrior is losing his hair. They MIGHT do good business for the match (and the match might be good), but I don’t think the lead up feud or the rematches are going to mean anything.

Edit: In case you’ve missed the updates on the main page, Lizmark Jr. is in for Toscano.

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11/15 AAA TV Taping (Xalapa)

Previous: 10/20 (Orizaba, Veracruz), 10/26 (Ciudad Veracruz), 11/11 (Irapuato)

AAA TV (THU) 11/15 Estadio Beisbol Colon de Xalapa [AAA]
2) el Ángel, El Brazo, Super AAA b Barba Roja, Billy Boy, Hijo de Pirata Morgan
3) Ayako Hamada, Fabi Apache, Mari Apache b Estrellita, Linda Star, Sexy Star
4) Escoria, Espíritu, Ozz b Aero Star, Rey Cometa, Super Fly
5) Scorpio Jr. & Zumbido b Alan Stone & Intocable [bull terrier]
6) Electro Shock & Zorro b Charly Manson & Chessman
7) El Elegido, La Parka Jr., Octagon, Super Porky DQ Head Hunter I, Konnan, Mesias, X-Pac

Projected Air Date (#656)
Mexico: 12/02
US: 12/22

Octagon was the surprise guy. I dunno why they just didn’t list him. The main event (rudos running in for the DQ) is hyped by AAA as build for Parka/Octagon defending the Mexican National tag team titles against Kenzo and Electro, neither of whom were actually in this match. Kenzo was replaced by Head Hunter I for reasons unknown.

This was all backdrop for Konnan and Mesias verbally turning on each other. Mesias is unhappy he’s now defending the AAA title against two guys instead of one – he would’ve been happy to give Zorro a shot, but not while he’s giving someone else one. Konnan doesn’t trust Mesias because…I have no idea. Well, in storyline anyway – I believe it was KrisZ who mentioned Mesias is expected back in Puerto Rico from December to April, just like last year. This split sure seems to set up Banderas being written out of AAA – he drops the title, Legion drops him and no coffin getting burned this time. The question becomes – who wins the title?

On one hand, you’d like the good guy to end up winning the feud over the bad guy, so we’d otherwise expect Cibernetico to win here. On the other hand, if you ever going to go with Zorro, you get no better chance than Zorro beating Cibernetico here – Cibernetico has a different guy to chase for a while, and Mesias has an obvious feud when he comes back.

You could also put it, and this should save Bihari one comment, is if Zorro wins the title at GdT, he’s the lead guy in the Foreign Legion. If Zorro turns on Mesais, and that shot directly leads to the finish, that may work too. Anything else, with Mesais gone and Zorro blowing his shot, the Legion becomes all about Konnan.

There are, in fact, other things to briefly discuss
– Semimain was all about putting people thru wooden objects.
– Decnnis interfered in the tercera to help the Guapos win.
– Sect destroyed Aero Star, and he got stretchered. I guess this is why that match isn’t for the titles – they lost!
– Linda Star is a replacement for a injured Cinthia Moreno. Rudas somehow got along to win. Post match, Fabi Apache was jumped by La Diabolica. I have no idea why. Best instant crackpot idea: remember when they were building Diabolica vs Martha and it was pretty evident which way that one was going? That fued seems to be dead from a TV perspective, but maybe Diabolica’s still willing to sell her mask and they’ve found a better person for it. This idea falls apart when you try to figure out WHEN it’d happen.
– whomever was supposed to be Gato Eveready was replaced by whomever is currently Super AAA. Perhaps the same person?

Upcoming tapings
11/19 Domo de la Feria, Leon
11/30 Centro de Convenciones de Ciudad Madero

(I’m trying a new format; notes from the preview appear past the jump and comments are carried over from the original post)


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11/17: Mexico, lineups, CAN52


CMLL (FRI) 11/16 Arena Mexico [ovaciones, superluchas, ESTO]
1) Rayo Tapatio I & Rayo Tapatio II b Polvora & Vaquero
2) Loco Max, Nitro, Virus b Metalico, Neutron, Super Nova
3) Sagrado, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Ephesto, Mephisto, Misterioso II
4) Amapola b Lady Apache [CMLL WOMEN]
5) Black Warrior, Lizmark Jr., Toscano b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Sombra
6) Atlantis, Averno, Ultimo Guerrero b Blue Panther, Dos Caras Jr., Mistico

In the main event, Averno pinned Mistico (which Ovaciones notes as “Mistico lost, again”.) They talked title match and mask match after, but neither is on the lineup for next week.

Semimain set up a Shocker/Bucanero vs Warrior/Toscano hair feud. Shocker and Rey make sense, but wasn’t it just last week that CMLL was discussing the potential greatness of Black Warrior & Lizmark Jr. as a tag team?

There was a moment of applause for Gran Markus.

Lady Apache took the first fall, but Amapola rallied back to win two and three clean with backcrackers. (Yay!) Match went 9 minutes, by far the shortest one on the show. Marcela, Dark Angel, and Diana were mentioned as future challengers.

Virus threw Metalico over the top rope to the floor in their match, and Metalico landed bad enough that he needed to be helped to the back. Tecnicos wanted a DQ, didn’t get it, and ended up losing.

In case you didn’t think Arena Mexico was running enough lucha events, there’s a special music/lucha libre combo show Sunday. SuperLuchas wrote about it earlier in the week, MedioTiempo writes about it today, but neither seems sure about the matches. Mistico, Dos Caras Jr., Volador Jr., Blue Demon Jr., Averno, Lizmark Jr., Black Warrior, and Perro Aguayo Jr. are listed as appearing; maybe it’ll just be one atomicos and lots of Mexican rap.

Arturo Rivera writes about that show in his column. He also says Mascarita Dorada should be happy with his first match not airing on TV, as Mini Black Warrior couldn’t hold up his end of the match.

Medio Tiempo has a Gran Markus obit.

CMLL (TUE) 11/20 Arena Mexico
1) Electrico & Fantasy vs Fire & Pequeño Violencia
2) Luna Magica, Marcela, Princesa Blanca vs Hiroka, La Nazi, Mima Shimoda
3) Metálico, Mictlán, Tigre Blanco vs Diamante Negro Jr., Nitro, Skandalo
4) Pequeño Olímpico vs Pequeño Damian 666 [CMLL MINI]
5) Felino, La Sombra, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso II, Ohara, Texano Jr.
6) Alex Koslov, Blue Panther, Negro Casas vs Atlantis, Olímpico, Último Guerrero

This will be (known) title shot #4 for Mini Damian 666. I think this is going to be the last one he needs. Note Ohara and Sombra will continue feuding in the semimain.

CMLL (FRI) 11/23 Arena Mexico
1) Astro Boy & Starman vs Calígula & Méssala
2) Dark Angel, Lady Apache, Marcela vs Amapola, Medussa, Princesa Sujei
3) La Máscara, La Sombra, Mascara Purpura vs Ephesto, Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
4) Dos Caras Jr., Marco Corelone, Volador Jr. vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Villano IV, Villano V
5) Místico, Rey Bucanero, Shocker vs Averno, Black Warrior, Toscano

Both feuds presented this week return for next week, so there may be some actual legs to them. Maybe they’re the actual 12/07 matches?

This is Villano IV’s return to Arena Mexico following his knee injury.

Tercera could be fun. Segunda is Amapola facing likely challengers – we’ll see if they’re going straight to a rematch.

CMLL CAN52 Guerreros del Ring #103 has
11/09 Mexico: Alex Koslov, Felino, Volador Jr. DQ Misterioso II, Olímpico, Sangre Azteca
11/11 Coliseo: Damian 666, Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Mr. Aguila b Negro Casas, Shocker, Volador Jr.
feature: Mini Pierroth in the gym

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AAA #620 (Rey de Reyes)

AAA #620, taped 03/18, aired in the US 04/04

I do not remember the opener well, because I recapped it three months ago. That seems fair, because you all probably saw this show seven months ago.

This was not the Billy/Apache match to go out of your way to see.

Vipers match was a normal Vipers match.

Scott Steiner must now hate lucha libre. None of the guys were taking moves like he was expecting, and Cibernetico was remarkably awful near the end.

I do greatly appreciate Rey de Reyes making sense for the first time in years. it was an average match, but I love getting actual logic in AAA. Now, if only the two fueds they were pushing actually got to a resolution.

Next up in the “get all the old lucha libre of my Tivo” project is the May 12th show. Maybe next week.

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11/16: Mexico preview, (last week’s) Neza & Naucalpan

CMLL (FRI) 11/16 Arena Mexico
1) Rayo Tapatio I & Rayo Tapatio II vs Polvora & Vaquero
2) Metalico, Neutron, Super Nova vs Loco Max, Nitro, Virus
3) Sagrado, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Misterioso II
4) Lady Apache vs Amapola [CMLL WOMEN]
5) Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Sombra vs Black Warrior, Lizmark Jr., Toscano
6) Blue Panther, Dos Caras Jr., Mistico vs Atlantis, Averno, Ultimo Guerrero

We’ve got five matches who don’t matter a bit and the big TITLE MATCH. Ovaciones says this is Lady Apache’s seventh defense, but only lists four of them – the same four as on the luchawiki! Eyes on your own paper! In all the massive prematch hype, they’re pretty much respectful of each other but confident of their victory.

ESTO could’ve picked a picture where it didn’t look like they were falling asleep. Just saying. Anyway, I’m rooting for Amapola so much here that I can’t separate that to objectively have a pick on this match. If you’re rooting for Dark Angel, I think you’re rooting for an Amapola title win, so Sarah might get a shot (after six months of Lady Apache challenges.)

In Other Action, the main event is a pseudo rematch of the tag team title match, as well as Averno vs Mistico. There may be something tangible breaking out from that main event: CMLL announced the year end show will be on 12/07, and we don’t have a Perro/Shocker match to head in direction. CMLL will only have two more Friday’s to set stuff up after this show, so things really have to start in motion.

The year end show being on 12/07 means we’re going to have a lot of filler weeks. Oh well.

ESTO writes about CMLL and others aiding out flood victims with food and other supplies. As part of those efforts, wrestlers will be standing in front of Arena Mexico to accept donations, and those who donate will get a free ticket. If that’s correct, Arena Mexico should have a huge house tonight.

Mr. Reyes has photos from last night’s Arena Naucalpan and the aftermath of Mini Olimpico’s mask win (yes, he did win), but I’m still looking for a name or photo of unmasked Gitanito. Haven’t see AAA TV results yet either.

CMLL (THU) 11/08 Arena Neza [The Gladiatores]
1) Dare Devil & Super Tri b Silver Black & Zakura
2) Rayo Tapatio II & Tiger Kid b Polvora & Zayco
3) Celestial, Mini Olimpico, Ultimo Dragoncito b Gitanito, Mini Halloween, Mini Mr. Aguila
4) Fabian el Gitano, Leono, Stuka Jr. b Dr. X, Loco Max, Mascara Ano 2000 Jr.
5) Arkangel, Olimpico, Ultimo Guerrero DQ Felino, Rey Bucanero, Valiente

UG tossed his mask to Bucanero for the DQ.

IWRG (SUN) 11/11 Arena Naucalpan [the gladiatores]
1) Puma King b Latin Brother
2) Tortuguillo Ninja I & Tortuguillo Ninja II b Trauma I & Trauma II
3) 911, Oficial Fierro, Radioactivo b Filoso, Kid Tiger, Sentado
4) Bogeman, Negro Navarro, Pantera b Damián 666, Enterrador, Pierroth
5) Black Terry & Cerebro Negro b Fantasma de la Ópera & Freelance [ri, losers advance]
6) Fantasma de la Ópera b Freelance [hair]

Sucks to be Freelance. Radioactivo yanked Kid Tiger’s mask to pin him. Negro Navarro might have hurt his arm in the semimain

AAA (MON) 11/12 Arena Cuatro Caminos de Nuevo Laredo [RFC]
3) Charly Manson b Zorro
4) Cibernetico, La Parka Jr., Octagón b Cuervo, Escoria, Ozz

indy (SUN) 11/18 Arena Solidaridad [aguilera @ LMDLL]
1) Pancho Tequila, Potro, Rey Infernal vs ?, Aventurero, Silver Star
2) Difunto I & Difunto II vs Caifan Rockero I & Gato Volador [FILL TAG]
3) Estrella Dorada, Hator, Monje Negro vs Diluvio Negro I, Diluvio Negro II, Sergio Romo Jr.

This show is being taped for TV Azteca

The Gladiatores also have interviews with Damian 666 and Los Traumas (who appear to be masked?) Anyone ever listen to these?

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Gran Markus (1938-2007)

The original Gran Markus, Juan “Johnny” Chavarría Galicia, passed away yesterday. (La Aficion and Siglo de Torreon report ) He’d be battling diabetes for a number of years, which had ended his career. He’d been unable to walk since July. The Aficion article lists his age as 64, the wiki has him as 69.

Gran Markus was part of the famous La Ola Blanca with Dr. Wagner and Angel Blanco, and the last living member. He’d also had success wrestling in Texas during his career, arguably a bigger star there than in Mexico.

Markus leaves no children behind – the other people using the name are unrelated to him.

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AAA #650

AAA #650, taped 10/07/07, aired 11/10/07

Three matches in three hours is excruciating. This time, it’s not even recaps to fill it up, just matches going long and entrances going super long. There’s no commercials live, so maybe it was only a couple hours for them but it was still way to stretched.

After the comedy of the first couple trips outside, the reality of how dumb the stip was for the match borne out. Stips are not supposed to hurt the match, but the eight people on the ring spent the middle third of the match avoiding the stip coming into play, and the last third ignoring it to get dives in.

The extreme was the usual extreme match. The only things that stick with me are the spots that go wrong. I hope Nicho has a better thought out entrance when he’s a surprise debut again in eight months.

I’m equally as bored with dome cage matches. Zorro getting help from the rudos to get revenge on Chessman makes sense, next week’s surprise being shown does not, but that’s AAA for you. Maybe they should have flipped episode order here.

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