IWRG (THU) 07/29 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring]
1) Dinamic Black b Carta Brava Jr.
2) Gemelo Fantastico I & Gemelo Fantastico II b Comando Negro & Magia Negra
3) Maldito Jr. & Samot b Diva Salvaje & Miss Gaviota
4) Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro, Oficial Marshal b Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro
5) Último Gladiador b Crazy Boy, Psicosis III, Chris Stone, Espíritu, Escoria, Oficial 911, el Ángel, Trauma I, Freelance, Suicida, Chico Che [IWRG IC HEAVY, #1 Contenders]
Poster said this was for a title shot, but there’s no mention of that in the recap and Ultimo Gladiador vs Silver King doesn’t make a lot of sense. Gladiador beat Trauma I to win, thought there was some miscellaneous cheating. Mike Segura was taken to the hospital after taking a move from Psicosis.
Oficial Marshall won in his debut, using a foul on Black Terry.
Previews of tonight’s Arena Mexico: Psicosis thinks the hospital should reserve a bed for Mistico after tonight’s match. SuperLuchas picks Ultimo Guerrero to win (and also says Ultimo Guerrero has his best year the last year – he has?)
I’m still leaning towards Sombra, but the Psicosis/Mistico is the bigger match. If it’s good, we’re seeing it again in about six weeks. If it’s not, no one has any idea what they’re doing in six weeks.
CMLL put up a list of current champions, which seems like something you might have wanted to even before you announced your tournament of champions. (It does seem like UG would be eligible for the tournament even if he didn’t have the heavyweight title.) They have also updated their champions page. It may be a typo, but Mascara Dorada is less super and now just the Lightweight champion. They have no picture of Metal Blanco. They acknowledge the existence of the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Titles, but have no picture of Stuka & Fuego. All the NWA titles are still listed as NWA titles.
This didn’t hold up as well when I watched it for the recap. The stuff I didn’t like (the announcing, for one) didn’t get any better than second time and there was choices that didn’t seem to make sense the second time.
It makes sense to have a fast paced trios to open the show, and it was good along those lines, but it was also six guys who were thrown out there with little introduction and disappeared back into the mist. Neutronic turned up in the main event but was not seen the following week, and Mascara Purpura was just seen in passing in a vignette. I know these people. If you’re reading this blog, you probably know these people, but anyone watching lucha for the first time needs it hammered home who these people are and while they should care, and probably shouldn’t be expected to remember them when they disappear for a couple weeks. You’ve got to make people appear to be stars, and stars don’t show up only every other week.
Same vein: there was also the odd choices of who got put over in the first couple of matches. Of the six guys in the opener, Mascara Purpura was treated as a big singles star, Neutronic had a role later in the show, PR Flyer & San Juan Kid are a set team and likely will either hold or challenge for the tag team titles, and yet it was Oriental & Limon who got the wins. Maybe the PR Powers get that win back down the road in the tag team tournament, but you can’t take the long road when kicking something like this off. 52 week contract with the network or not, you don’t have a 52 week contract with the fans, you can’t plan with the idea they’ll be around for a payoff six weeks down the road.
And then the mixed tag ended with Tigresa Caliente going over. Chi Chi got the win, but the vignette the next week set up Tigresa as the star of the duo. I dunno
Main event showcased the different between wrestling for the live crowd and for the TV audience. I don’t know if the rudo gesturing to the crowd for cheers works under any circumstance, but it definitely doesn’t if the crowd is being dubbed over anyway.
I think I’m missing my point here. (Maybe, like the announcers, I’m explaining something until I got distracted halfway thru.) None of this is big stuff. It’s all tweaking stuff, thinks that can be fixed and probably will be fixed with time. The larger point is I don’t think promotions like this have that sort of time. This would’ve been fine as week #13, but you’ve got to have a blowaway premiere, or the momentum built up to it is lost and very hard to get back. This show came off as something I wouldn’t mind watching again, but not something I needed to watch again. It wasn’t a failure, but I wasn’t surprised when half the people didn’t come back the next week.
Máximo, Místico, Shocker vs Atlantis, Jushin Lyger, Último Guerrero – Yea, so this was definitely better than the Guadalajara one, though the being the right match for the right crowd helped. This was just a trios to get everyone on the card that they needed to get on the card, doing the spot show match, and the crowd was actually pretty excited for Infierno en el Ring.
SuperLuchas actually caught up with the Dr. X fans. My theory was they were Dr. X family members, and they were under the belief he was losing his mask in this match, but the interview said they were just super Dr. X fans from Zacatecas or some place.
CMLL (TUE) 07/27 Arena Mexico [CMLL, @cmllmagazine]
1) Robin & Trueno b Disturbio & Semental
2) La Seductora, Princesa Sujei, Seuxis b Dalys la Caribeña, Lluvia, Marcela
3) Euforia, Raziel, Shigeo Okumura b Diamante, Pegasso, Rey Cometa
4) Hijo del Fantasma, Sagrado, Strong Man DQ Histeria, Jushin Lyger, Olímpico
5) Héctor Garza, Terrible, Texano b La Máscara, La Sombra, Máscara Dorada
Rudos winning the main events sets up a title match for next week.
Lyger fouled Fantasma for a DQ in the semimain.
Okumura replaced Virus.
Cesar has a really great post about How To Buy Tickets At Arena Mexico (and not from the ticket scalpers.) There’s pictures and trips and such, but it appears the important lesson is “go buy it from a music store that has a Ticketmaster hookup in advance, or at least realize there are ten different windows and you don’t have to stand in line for the most visible one.” It does seem like CMLL could use someone(s) standing outside the ticket windows, navigating people to shorter lines so they’re not as tempted to go to resellers.
AAA sent out a bunch of press releases to sites yesterday. The one which seemed to grab the most attention was AAA promising a surprise to help fight back against Legion & Los Perros at tonight’s taping in Toluca. The implication is it’ll be someone jumping sides or debuting in AAA, though my best guess is it’s simply Mesias returning to TV to set up the trios match for Verano de Escandalo.
AAA will be covering the taping on their Facebook account, and I’ll have a results post sometime tonight or tomorrow.
Remember the odd Traumas vs Negro Navarro & Paranoiko match, where Paranoiko walked off for reasons which were not particularly explained? Video has turned up that clues us in on an expected explanation. Keep scrolling down in that thread for a great, and similar, incident with the Traumas and the Gemelos. The Dinastia Navarro have a reputation for being, uh, demanding.
In other gossip from the Expo, but without the fun video evidence (so far), the WON reports AAA and Perro Aguayo Jr. are on shaky terms after Perro Jr. “showed up in bad condition and was slurring his words when he did the mic work during the [show ending] angle.” To defend Perro Aguayo Jr., I’ve felt the same way after sitting thru a complete AAA taping. I get commercial breaks, Perro might have indulged in adult beverages or something to cope.
Also, X-Fly challenged Vampiro to a fight.
That sentence needed to stand alone. Halloween & Damian are in AAA no matter whatever else happens, but everything else with the Perros is iffy.
The WON also the actual reasons AAA moved Verano de Escandalo from Monterrey was due to increased protection fees from drug cartels in the area. Every entertainment group has to pay up or risk being messed with (which makes one wonder about that shooting outside Arena Coliseo Monterrey a while back), and there’s not the same level of issues elsewhere.
Mascara Magica will protest his hair loss to the Guadalajara commission, angry they restarted the match when he cheated, but not with the tecnicos did. Metal Blanco says all that matters is they got the win.
The organizers of the Lucha Libre Expo says they’ll be back next year. Attendance was 6,547 for Friday (blamed on rain and “other factors”), 9,365 for Saturday, and 9,486 for Sunday for a total of 25,398.
Fuego en el Ring has the bio stats for Bestia 666, Damian 666’s son who debuted on the last Perros taping.
Super Crazy tells SuperLuchas that he was eventually paid what he as owed from EAW.
Am.com.mx has a story on Morelia luchador Orion. The only local wrestler this site seems to cover is Guerrero Universal, though usually without full lineups or context, and Orion is one of his students who’ve been wrestling in Arena Jalisco.
Juvi singing. I’ve told you all you need to know, you’re either in or you’re out.
LIMEX (SAT) 07/31 Teatro al Aire Libre Carlos Colrado
1) Aguila & Tristar vs Angel Guardian & Legendario Extremo
2) Aguila Tapada & Impostor Macabro vs Mr. Zebra & Super Pinocho
3) La Parkita & Mascarita vs Calaquita & Espectrito de Ultratumba
4) Super Muñeco, Super Pinocho, Super Raton vs Canek Jr., Coco Amarillo Jr., Coco Blanco
indy (SUN) 08/01 Arena Azteca Budokan
1) Rey Neza & Skyderman vs Golden Bull & Quinto Elemento
2) Genesis & Mini Oriental vs Dr. Jenkins & Mini Apache
3) La Chola, Rossy Moreno, Tiffany vs Flor Metalica, La Italiana, Vanelly
4) Cocolores, Gran Alebrije, Ultraman vs Histeria II, Monsther, Skándalo
5) Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Huracan Ramriez, Oriental vs Charly Manson, Mr. Águila, Olímpico
Hyped as first unmasked match for Oriental (though we know he already wrestled unmasked in Texas.) First in his home building, I guess. Mostly an Invader show, which makes Skandalo working the semimain interesting.
CMLL (MON) 08/02 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger & Stigma vs Sauron & Siki Osama
2) Dalys la Caribeña, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, Seuxis, Yeska
3) Fuego, Metro, Stuka Jr. vs Euforia, Pólvora, Virus
4) Blue Panther, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Místico, Rotoporky, Shocker vs Charly Manson, Héctor Garza, Psicosis
More Mistico/Psicosis in the main event.
I now believe they brought back the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Titles and then did nothing with them as an elaborate way of being annoying. Got to respect the long game. That tercera might be setting up a title match for the next Fan Appreciation show, but it’s more likely to be for the Mex Trios titles.
Is Silueta starting as a DF regular after losing her mask? That’s a new one.
Stigma, getting matches in back to back weeks, was interviewed in Luchas 2000. He’s yet another member of the Robles/Paniaco/Mar family, though who exactly he’s related to isn’t said. The interview makes it sound as if he’s a Puebla regular rather than a DF CMLL guy; he’s been training with Police Man and Toro Bill Sr.
CMLL (TUE) 08/03 Arena Mexico
1) Horus & Trueno vs Cholo & Zayco
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Metálico, Molotov vs Durango Kid, Puma King, Tiger Kid
3) Diamante, Fabián el Gitano, Rush vs Cancerbero, Euforia, Raziel
4) Hijo del Fantasma, Máximo, Sagrado vs Charly Manson, Histeria, Universo 2000
5) La Máscara, La Sombra, Máscara Dorada vs Héctor Garza, Terrible, Texano Jr. [CMLL TRIOS]
Fan Appreciation show, which is why they’re doing a title match. It’s not a good time to be doing it, with a title tournament going along.
No word on how a trios title change would affect the Universal tournament, which probably means we don’t have to worry about a title change. CMLL would have 15 champions – La Mascara (scheduled for the 08/06 block) & Sombra (could win this week’s block) would be out of titles, Terrible would have one. Or maybe my old theory about the Tuesday, Friday and Sunday shows being booked individually by people who have absolutely no idea what’s going on the other shows is actually slightly accurate.
Kinda hoping they were done with Universo. Guess not. Also returning is Guerrero Maya (actually, on Sunday); he’s been MIA for most of July.
CMLL (TUE) 08/03 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Meteoro & Nocturno vs In Memoriam & Nube Roja
2) Silueta vs Princesa Maya
3) Hierro & Leo vs Exterminador & Máscara Mágica
4) Delta & Valiente vs Shigeo Okumura & Yoshihashi
5) Místico, Rotoporky, Shocker vs Jushin Liger, Mephisto, Negro Casas
The people who last lost apuesta matches here – Silutera, Exterminador, Mascara Magica – all make their first appearance since on this show. None of the people who beat them are on the show.
IWL (FRI) 08/13 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Histeria II & Psicosis II vs Hijo del Cien Caras & Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
2) Ryan Taylor vs the PWG Champion from England
3) Chuck Palumbo vs Charly Manson
One EAW falls, another rises in it’s place. Lineup from here. There’s no PWG champion from England, unless we lost Davey Richards and Washington State in a war I slept thru. Their tag team champions are Paul London and Generico, and either of those doing a British gimmick in Mexico might be hilarious, but I don’t think that is what’s happening here. Maybe it’s Pac? I forget if he was on the poster that turned up earlier for this group.
I can not emphasize this enough: people on this show should ask for as much of your money as possible up front, and make sure you can get your own lodging/flight home if need be. Rule of thumb is if someone’s flying in one guy from the US, then they possibly could have a clue (no guarantee), but if they’re doing more than that, expect disaster. I’ve never heard anyone said a bad word about Chuck Palumbo, but I think they could put Chico Che in the same spot and draw just about the same amount (and the same TV rating), and they’re not paying Chuck Palumbo what they’d pay Chico Che. Even more true with the undercard.
They released a roster to 1up yesterday. There are slightly different rosters for the 360/PS3 version and the Wii(/PSP?/DS?) version. They’re a rare double fail.
Just 3 weeks ago, the official Facebook site for the game posted a roster, which is quite different from the roster linked above. There are 17 guys listed last time who are out of the game – the likes of Alex, Nicho, Teddy, Gladiador. Sorry, Crazy Boy, you’ll have to make yourself in the game. Their Facebook page has since deleted those roster pages (1, 2) from its site, but Google still has a cache of those pages (1, 2). My guess is the people who run the facebook are some PR team that copied a list off wikipedia, and maybe didn’t do the best job of checking to see if the list was actually right. Those pages are dated 07/10, so they probably pulled it a few weeks ago, decided to pretend they never existed, and so it’s just become evident now. Also, people really should stop trying to delete things on the internet, there’s always a copy floating around somewhere.
The other problem is the list of guys who are the PSP/360 version and not the Wii version. Assuming there’s reasoning to have different rosters (maybe they thought the Wii version would sell better with female wrestlers, though that doesn’t explain why Sexi Star wasn’t included), I’d figure the guys to get removed would be the ones who aren’t actually with AAA any more or aren’t on TV. Cut Charly, Psicosis, Gronda and maybe Alan Stone and they’d have the room.
They went a different route, cutting Silver King, Extreme Tiger, Jack Evans, and the guy on the cover of the video game, Dr. Wagner Jr. That is unfathomable, so much so that either that Wii roster is just wrong, or there’s some sort of DLC coming to add those guys very early on. That they left Doctor Wagner Junior out of the AAA video game on purpose with no plans to add him is impossible to believe.
(I’m still pre-ordering the game, when we’re a week or two away and they’re not moving it again, but I’m glad I’m getting the PS3 version.)
Four episodes in, and I’ve already lost my enthusiasm for this show. To be fair, the luchadors did first.
In a world where five of the six CMLL weekly events shows airs somewhere, covering 61% of the matches, you’re going to get repeats, you’re going to get matches which just aren’t as good as other ones, and you’re going to get non essential stuff. Guadalajara seems to hit all three; the top guys tend to take it easy; even if they didn’t, there was a match featuring three of these same four guys on another channel at the same time, and it was much better.
If you’re going to air lucha libre from Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, make it be of Guadalajara. TVC Deportes does a good job with Puebla, pretty much always including the locals match because it’s what make Puebla different than Puebla. I understand why you have to air Mistico if you have a match with them, but the most interesting thing on this show was how Gallo worked with the CMLL guys (pretty good, they made him look like he was on their level), and maybe the second most interesting thing was the video of the tercera (Neutron! Palacio Negro!) airing behind the announcers during their standup. If the semimains are going to be CMLL midcarders who don’t make enough of a different to main event, you ought to be airing the undercard matches of guys who might not be as complete but are working a lot harder.
AAA-US: Lots of pairs matches, Wagner/Parka vs Chessman/Park, 187 vs Hernandez/Zorro, plus Damian/Halloween return to face Jack/Rocky, and Alex/Christian vs Aero/Fabi for the mixed tag titles. Last TV match for the time being for Chessman, and the last match for Rocky – his turn on the next taping was cut from the Mexician airing.
The big news here is the show airs 2 hours earlier (unless you’re on the West Coast feed), which makes life a little easier for people who are also recording 52MX and Teleformula at the same time.
52MX: Minis match (Saturno’s annual appearance), plus Manson/Alebrije/Olimpico vs Panther/Dorada/Sagrado
CMLL-LATV: next episode in line is Double Dorada – the mini with Astral/Dragon vs Nitro/Violencia/Warrior, and the bigger one with Stuka & Metro vs Poder Mexica. Odds a new episode airs: 10%
CMLL-TF: Angels/Stuka vs Cancerbero/Okumura/Ysho, plus Maximo/Sagrado vs Garza/Texano. Never really understood how often Maximow as in Guadalajara until I started watching this show.
CMLL: hopefully just the Universal tournament and Mistico/Psicosis, though they squeezed another match in last year.
AAA-MEX: Expo taping, already. CiberClowns vs Legion, Electro/UG vs Wagner/Tiger, minis, people in no condition to perform on the microphones
CMLL-FOX: Tuareg vs Stuka/Fuego/Rush, where the feud set up is NOT for the Arena Coliseo Tag Team championship. Makes no sense to me. Also, Mistico/Shocker/Strong Man vs Averno/Mephisto/Lyger
Doesn’t look like there’s a Sunday replay this week.
C3: The Tuesday results I forgot to post today, including a set up for a trios title match next week.
Puebla: is this airing? I haven’t seen anything about it since it should’ve come back on. Main is Invaders vs Mistico/Mascara/Panther
Perros: see above, except I have no guess.
ACM: Next taping would be Aventurero/Hator/Estrella with title and hair on the line. No idea what’ll air.
CMLL-TFN: I think $tew said he did voice overs for Infierno en el Ring; this would be the week for that, and maybe Super Sky Team vs Atlantis/Niebla/UG
Alan Stone & Chris Stone vs Cuervo & Ozz: Worked better than last week, though they probably could’ve done this breakup without facing group every week. I liked the idea of angry/gullible Chris Stone being distracted by Hijo de Tirantes lies, that was a nice touch.
Heavy Metal, Octagón, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Electroshock, Silver King, Último Gladiador: I don’t understand why Electroshock & Metal were feuding before this match, but I understand why they might be after this match. Chris Stone and Heavy Metal both seem to be doing losing streak storylines at the same time, though at least they’re going different ways with it. It felt like they did what they usually do, but over a much shorter time, so I was okay with it.
Cibernético, Dr. Wagner Jr., La Parka Jr. vs Hernandez, LA Park, Zorro: This was just okay, and then had the brawl that had fifteen things going on with it to make it hard to follow (including Tirantes/Apache, which seems totally unnecessary unless Tirantes is wrestler or Apache is becoming a referee.) The three way title match setup is more apparent in retrospect, though I still don’t understand why Vampiro didn’t attack Silver King.
Konnan sometimes does that nerd thing where they’re so excited to share their knowledge on something, they blurt it out even though no one besides them actually cares at that moment. It’s so weird to think of Konnan as a nerd.
CMLL (TUE) 07/27 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring, SuperLuchas]
1) Relampago b Cerveruz
2) Ángel del Mal & Infierno b Angelo & Astaroth
3) Neutrón & Palacio Negro b Malefico & Mr. Trueno
4) Máximo, Rotoporky, Shocker DQ Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Bucanero
5) Metal Blanco & Stuka Jr. b Exterminador & Máscara Mágica [hair]
Rudos won the first, and were going to win the second when they got themselves DQed for pulling off the tecnicos match. In the third, Stuka was eliminated, then Exterminador, so it came back to the Magica/Metal feud it started with. Magica gave Metal a neckbreaker and pinned him and got the win.
Except the commission rep noticed Magica’s feet were on the ropes and ordered a restart. This time, they had a ref bump and Magica fouling Metal Blanco. Stuka jumped back in the ring, dropped Magica, did his splash, and put Metal Blanco back on top. Tecnicos won. Rudos walked off, but came back and got their hair cut off.
Maximo faked a foul from Atlantis in the semimain.
PWInsider says Lucha Libre USA episode #2 got a 0.09 rating. That’s half the number as last week, and half the average for the network. Bad sign.
Latin Lover says there’s on going litigation over his name, but he can use it while it goes on. He’s also recently moved to San Antonio.
Sangre Azteca is back in Mexico. Terrible and Texano say their are no challengers for their Occidente Tag Team titles, and they would be willing to face Hector Garza & Mr. Aguila in a battle of rudos for the World Tag Team titles.
CMLL PG (SAT) 08/07 Campo de Beisbol Veterans Feild
1) Rossy Moreno & Tiffany vs La Diabólica & Medussa
2) Corazón de Barrio, Rey Lanzer, Rossu vs Estrella Universal, Hator, Hombre Sin Miedo
3) Angel Blanco Jr., Histeria, Mr. Águila vs El Alebrije, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Intocable
4) La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Shocker vs Jushin Lyger, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi
5) La Sombra, Místico, Volador Jr. vs Atlantis, Averno, Héctor Garza
The usual monthly show from this group, but on the other side of the border, in Laredo, Texas. Hope there’s no problems with that. Super Sky Team together is a bit odd.