03/14-15 Lucha Times


AAA-MEX: Zorro/X-Pac, Chessman/Mesias.

FOX/LATV: Women’s match, the never ending battle between Tiger and Angel here, Guerreros vs Panther/Mictlan/Sagrado

52MX: Felino/Skandalo/Vangelis vs Fabian/Leono/Stuka and trios title feud

CMLL: Galavision lists this as 3h45 minute show. That can not possibly be correct. Top 3, unless they start moving around things because they have no TV for next week.

AAA-MEX: Chessman (and Konnan) vs Mesias, DMEX vs HF2

C3: Infernales/Okumura vs Flash/Pegasso/Stuka should be good. Plus unmasked Fire.

CMLL LATV #133 (02/21)

taped 02/15, 02/13, and then 02/15 again

Mini Halloween and Mr. Aguilita will be missed. Halloween’s the better guy, but Aguilita’s the nicer surprise as a random guy on the indies working the gimmick who just got an in because they happened to need that gimmick, but proving he deserved to be there. A successful lucha career is a much about making the right decisions at the right time as it about talent, so here’s hoping they’ve made the right decision by going to the Perros. (Nino de Acero, not going to miss so much.)

I’m always befuddled when I read about Arena Coliseo and Arena Mexico having different fan bases. There are people who swear this is true and I do not dispute them, they surely know better than me, but for a US fan who’d go to shows an hour or more away, just going across town (a very large town, but still) seems a small deal. It’s just a different way of viewing wrestling, I guess, which means there were people probably getting a good look at Bam Bam vs Damian who didn’t see their Coliseo matches last year, and those people got a quick stripped down version to the highspots. The other matches were better (and since you’re reading this online, it’s not too hard to go track them down on my DailyMotion account), but if you hadn’t seen those, this was still pretty good.

Just to be clear, I’m not complaining about the Dos/UG title match not happening because I have any desire to see it. I got my fill of that match here, though I’m confused on how Dos being disinterested definitely being a rudo since he was doing plenty of it here.

03/11: Monterrey, Mexico

AAA (SUN) 03/08 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [RFC]
1) Iron Xtreme b Rey Dragon
2) Aguila Azteca & Relampago Azul b Epidemius & Invasor
3) Rio Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana II b Aguila Extrema, Guerrero Blanco, RDN
4) Ejecutor & Mr. Secuestro b La Momia & Virtual X [AAA NORTH TAG]
5) Hombre sin Miedo, May Flowers, Pimpinela Escarlata b Decnnis, el Brazo, Escorpion Negro Jr.

New AAA North tag champs.

CMLL (TUE) 03/10 Arena Mexico [ESTO]
1) Puma King & Tiger Kid b Rayo Tapatio II & Sensei
2) ElectricoShockercitoUltimo Dragoncito b FirePequeno WarriorPierrothito
3) EuforiaNosferatuShigeo Okumura b FlashPegassoStuka Jr.
4) Dragon Rojo Jr.FelinoSangre Azteca b Mascara DoradaMictlanSagrado
5) Hector GarzaHijo del FantasmaVolador Jr. b Lizmark Jr.Mr. NieblaRey Bucanero

Rey Bucanero replaced Black Warrior. Something’s obviously up with Warrior, at a bad time.

Ovaciones skips coverage of this show for an interview with Ultimo Guerrero about next Friday’s match. Need to figure out if EstadioW is still doing broadcasts of the show, now that I think about it. Not a lot new in the interview.

Episode #36 of Ras de Lona has highlights of the minis cage match.

ESPN Deportes previews Rey de Reyes, though with the old lineup. LuchandoLibre looks next month’s Pierroth tribute show.

El Sol de Hidalgo profiles local DTU wrestler Drastick Boy

WrestlingObserver has their AAA Recap.

LuchaWorld has Robert on Arena Coliseo Monterrey 04/13/03 and GdR 11/10, GdR 11/17 and FSE 11/18.

AAA #873 (02/21)

taped 01/25

The clipping is back, since this is strangely back to a 2h30m show in the US, but it seems like either they’re doing a better job working the match the length it’ll get on TV, or a better job of editing. It’s still troubling in some matches, but they’re at least giving everything six minutes.

It was nice to see the minis on TV, though this wasn’t the best tecnico group. Dorada looked better than he has previous at least. This was really just time killing to set up the Abyss/Abismo stuff but it was still okay.

The whole Vampiro title strip bit came off as lame and rudo-ish, but maybe it works better with people who more have a more unconditional love of Vampiro. My unconditional love seems to be reserved for the Clowns. If we got to bisect AAA, I’d like to the Clowns, Poder del Norte and the Morenos/Billy as my rudos, and the Airforce, Gato and the Apaches for my side. I’d be kinda shot on tecnicos (and make no money) but it’d be great fun.

I got Teddy Hart working with Gronda II. What more could someone want?

Air Force in the semimain! Everything is right in the booking now forever and ever. (Or just for one day.)

The Mesais push is still too much for me, and it’s kinda dumb to spend all that time building up Hermandad just to kill them off here, but AAA’s crowd isn’t rejected it and I suppose that is what is important. I shouldn’t really complain when they bundle guys I’m not interested in together instead of spreading them out around the card.

CMLL Puebla #23 (02/14)

taped 02/08. Five matches.

Nothing that interesting here. I thought the opener was good, but I wasn’t expecting to be the best match. Probably should know better.

Main event – I sure hope this was edited, because it’s pretty pathetic any other way. You can’t do a five minute match as your main event, that’s just absurd. Why bother even showing up at that point? I’m presuming they would’ve skipping showing it if didn’t set up something next week, but I would be fine not seeing Garza/Guerrero. (And, as it turns out, I can’t because it hasn’t turned up.)

03/10: Juarez, notes

AAA (SUN) 03/08 Ciudad Juarez [albert cerda]
1) Astro Boy (Juarez), Rey Halcon, Stigma b Espectro III, Hannibal, Hermes Jr.
2) Chucky, La Perucha, Samurai b el Tirburon, Rafaga, Romano
3) Mascarita Sagrada 2007 & Octagoncito b Mini Abismo Negro & Mini Histeria
4) Laredo Kid & Super Fly b Jack Evans & Teddy Hart
5) Killer Clown, Psycho Clown, Zombie Clown b Cuervo, Escoria, Ozz
6) Vampiro NC Mesias

Vampiro & Mesias talked about how great each other guy was and how they’re friends now but they’re being forced to fight here. Then they had a street fight around the building, and everyone else ran in for the NC. And then Vampiro and Mesais talked about how great each other was. Next big show in Juarez is 03/22: Perro Jr. vs Santo vs Cibernetico, and Olimpico/Super Crazy vs Halloween/Damian 666.

Ovaciones has a big story on a Dos Leyendas change: Black Warrior out, Misterioso II in. No champions vs champions match for sure. Ovaciones isn’t quite sure why there’s the Sub. Warrior’s scheduled to work tonight in Arena Mexico.

AAA notes Mini Charly Manson & Mini Chessman fell apart as a team at a spot show on 03/06 and challenged each other to title and hair matches. And they’ll probably still be teaming tomorrow, but they act like one of those matches may actually happened.

AAA also says they’re running Arena Lopez Mateos on the 4/4 with Wagner & Silver King vs Zorro & Konnan. Wagner repeats to Al Filo del Ring this doesn’t mean he’s going to AAA full time (regardless of Luchas 2000 cover implies.)

TelevisaDeportes says Mima Shimoda is headed back to Japan until 04/02.

Al Filo del Ring also has interviews with Intocable & Zumbido about their hair match 10 days from now and Cibernetico about not going back to AAA.

Celebrating the International Day Of Women, Dos de Tres looks back at the history of women’s wrestling. Al Filo del Ring has an interview with Cinthia Moreno, who makes the saliant point: “Women get one day? Women should get EVERY day.”

CMLL must’ve belatedly put out a press release about the show airing in Spain, because it got picked up in Televisa Deportes and Ovaciones.

LuchandoLibre previews next Saturday’s Gronda benefit show

Box Y Lucha lists a show on 03/15 with Messala putting his mask against whatever title Cuchillo has (it’s not listed.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and Robert on IWRG 11/01/2007, and GdR 10/27 and 11/03 and FSE 11/04/07 and a video clip of Sergio el Hermoso & Bello Greco vs Fujiwara and Kimura

AAA #872 (02/14)

taped 01/18/09

I had to recap this show twice, and didn’t think as much of it the second time.

The Poder Norte/Fuerza Aerea match was full of holes on a second look.

Morenos/Billy vs Apaches was good both times thru, drama wise.

DMex vs Legion also stole it’s story well, though I don’t know why X-Pac didn’t hit Zorro with the cane in the end. (Besides the story said he couldn’t.)

They tried to go all out for the atomicos match. Not everything worked but it was afir effort anyway.

main event was the Mesias show. I could do without it, though it wasn’t outrageous until he killed Black Abyss

03/20 AAA TV Lineup (Madero)

AAA TV (FRI) 03/20 Centro de Convencions de Ciudad Madero [KrisZ]
1) Aerostar & Fabi Apache vs Cinthia Moreno & Oriental
2) Abismo NegroGato EvereadyUltimo Gladiador vs Black AbyssHisteriaPsicosis II
3) ? & La Parka Jr. vs Konnan & Silver King
4) Charly MansonEl MesiasX-Pac vs ChessmanElectro ShockZorro
5) Alan Stone vs Crazy BoyAlex KoslovLaredo KidSuper FlyBilly BoyEscoriaJack EvansExtreme TigerTeddy HartJoe LiderNicho el Millionario? [AAA CRUISER, dome cage]

A new day! A new era! Up is down, down is up, the high flyers are on top, the heavyweights are pushed all the way down to the (uh) semimain, Abismo Negro is teaming with Gato Eveready! I give this three weeks.

“Cruiserweight” doesn’t really mean much in lucha libre. There is a Mexican National Cruiserweight championship but it’s never really gotten traction – La Parka Jr. won it before he was La Parka Jr., which kinda proves the point. Cruiserweight is the WCW buzzword, and so that’s what’s being used here but middleweight would mean more. Eh, small battles not worth fighting.

What’s more amusing is the ever so rare 13 man match! Some people go for even numbers, some go for multiples of threes, but AAA blazes it’s own trail. Even better, it’s in a dome caged – so there isn’t a winner in the traditional sense (just the second to last loser) – I wonder if this is meant to be seeding or something?

Plus, they’ve stacked the deck in Block A. Not sure if I could come up with 13 for Block B, but I’ll try

1) Aerostar
2) Oriental
3) Gato Eveready
4) Ultimo Gladador
5) Histeria
6) Psicosis II
7) Espiritu
8) Rocky Romero – is he someplace else right now? Seems to be MIA.
9) Angel
10) Cuervo
11) Ozz
12) Tiger Cota
13) Tito Santana
(also: Rio Bravo, Argenis, Decnnis, Nemesis, Chris Stone, Dizzy, Jessy, Gallego, Ricky, Chiva?, maybe X-Pac if we’re supposed to think of him as a cruiserweight, guys like Yuriko, Nygma, Black Abyss, Angel Mortal may work too if you stretch)

Okay, that’s not so bad number wise. Name wise, it still doesn’t work and I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s only one block.

The ? guy here would seem to be Shiima Xion. Based on the numbers, it’d make more sense for him to be a tecnico, but I don’t think they think like that.

Everything else is holding in place from Rey de Reyes: Charly/Electro, Mesias/Chessman, Zorro/X-Pac, Parka/Silver, Konnan/? (Vamp unless plans change again), Abismo/Abyss, Fabi/Cinthia.

03/15 AAA TV Lineup (Guadalajara – Rey de Reyes)

Update 3: Lineup Changed 03/09

AAA TV (SUN) 03/15 Plaza de Toros Nuevo Progreso
1) AerostarFabi ApacheGran Apache vs Billy BoyCinthia MorenoTigre Cota
2) Abismo Negro vs Latin LoverOzzBlack Abyss [torneoRey de Reyessemifinal]
3) El Elegido vs Alan StoneSilver KingJoe Lider [Rey de Reyestorneosemifinal]
4) Octagón vs Súper FlyElectro ShockNicho el Millionario [Rey de Reyestorneosemifinal]
5) La Parka Jr. vs Super PorkyEscoriaKenzo Suzuki [Rey de Reyestorneosemifinal]
6) Alex KoslovCharly MansonX-Pac vs Jack EvansTeddy HartZorro
7) Vampiro vs Konnan [seconds hair]
8) ? vs ????????? [Rey de Reyesfinaltorneo]
9) Mesias vs Chessman [AAA HEAVYcage]

– As listed on the ticketmaster page, Kenzo Suzuki has taken Psycho Clown’s spot in the tournament

– no more mystery tag; Zorro teams with the HF2 against Charly and 2/3rds of D-Mex. This dovetails nicely with the Cibernetico rumor

– opening match trio confirmed, Tigre Cota in place of Oriental

Update 2: I failed at reading – main event is a cage match. Not that it’ll keep anyone out.

BTW – since we all knew CMLL was announcing their main event today, why announce Rey de Reyes? Really now.


AAA TV (SUN) 03/15 Plaza de Toros Nuevo Progreso
1) Abismo Negro vs Latin Lover, Ozz, Black Abyss [torneo, Rey de Reyes, semifinal]
2) El Elegido vs Alan Stone, Silver King, Joe Lider [Rey de Reyes, torneo, semifinal]
3) Octagon vs Super Fly, Electro Shock, Nicho el Millionario [Rey de Reyes, torneo, semifinal]
4) La Parka Jr. vs Super Porky, Escoria, Psycho Clown [Rey de Reyes, torneo, semifinal]
5) ? & Charly Manson vs ?? & Zorro
6) ? vs ??, ???, ???? [Rey de Reyes, final, torneo]
7) Vampiro vs Konnan [seconds hair]
8) Mesias vs Chessman [AAA HEAVY, cage]

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#880, #881)
Mexico: 03/22, 03/29
US: 04/11, 04/18

(match order not guaranteed.)

Look at all those new people on top! I don’t know about you, but I’ve thought “??” has long been underutilized by this promotion and I’m just thrilled for him to get a shot at working fourth from the top.

I’m shocked and amazed and also pretty happy that everything I thought was going to happen in the tournament appears to be happening:

– Parka and Silver King are clearly winning their brackets.
– Black Abyss playing the role of Mr. Niebla and taking Abismo out of the tournament just like last year (but a round early) is in play, and Ozz is surely a pinball for Latin Lover.
– the two rudos who I thought might sneak thru are in the same group! You know, this sounds like a reversal of everything I’ve said for the last six or so months, but I would actually have Electroshock beat Super Fly. Unless you’re going to have Super Fly win the whole tournament (which I’d also be fine with), there’s no point of finally giving him the win only for him to lose later in the show.

Silver King, who I panned when he was announced firt, is clearly now the leading candidate to take this. I’m mocking the concept, because I won’t believe until I see it, but if they truly want to put new people on top (and also grease the skids for a certian person to show up here), Silver King’s the guy most set up for it.

Charly & Zorro’s tag is listed as “HELL RADICAL BROTHERS”. They might as well use blinking text to make it clear we’re to expect Cibernetico to return here. Zorro’s spot is surely the random foreign guest start of the evening.

Vampiro & Konnan might not be the worst match of the year – then again, it might! – but it’ll defintely be the one with the most shortcuts and gimmicks used to hide these two. (Even though Jack & Teddy aren’t booked, I wonder if they might get to show up just to take all the bumps here like in the Latin Lover match.) I guess we’re getting Vampiro out of retirement because the stip was “Roldan can pick anyone he wants to represent him”, so the Legion gave him their okay to use Vampiro for this match. For the rest of them, I dunno. As much as the skuttlebutt has hinted the end of the Legion around this show, I’m not as sure right now and wouldn’t be surprised to see a Chessman run-in to cause Vamp to lose and to set up those matches.

I hope the Mesias/Chessman matches they’ve been doing are really good, because I don’t have any desire to see that match at Rey de Reyes right now. Maybe they’ll change my mind.

Original Entry:

At Plaza de Toros Nuevo Progreso in Guadalajara. No lineup announced yet.

(this is just a post to keep track of the Rey de Reyes entrants. I’ll edit them in as they’re announced, and repost this when the lineup comes out.)

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#880, #881)
Mexico: 03/22, 03/29
US: 04/11, 04/18
very much guess work, but no sooner than these dates.

Rey de Reyes participants have been announced, one a day, starting on 02/03.

  1. Silver King (2/3)
  2. Alan Stone (2/4)
  3. Octagon (2/5)
  4. Super Fly (2/6)
  5. Black Abyss (2/8)
  6. Dark Scoria (2/9)
  7. Abismo Negro (2/9)
  8. Electroshock (2/10)
  9. Joe Lider (2/11)
  10. TBA
  11. TBA
  12. TBA
  13. TBA
  14. TBA
  15. TBA
  16. TBA