TNA cancels Mexico shows

As announced on their website, the 12/14 Monterrey and the 12/15 Toreo de Cuatro Caminos show; they plan to run events in 2008 instead. Don’t be holding your breath for those. This would appear to be a failure on almost every level, but at least they figured it out 10 days before the shows and can limit the losses.

These were sold shows by TNA, so it’s more the local promoter’s fault (and loss), but you’d think they’d be more careful about their brand.

This is theoretically going to help out Santo’s show, except I think the people who were planning on going to TNA’s show were either hardcore fans of that promotion or those who go to every big show. It’s not going to hurt, at least.

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12/14 AAA TV Taping Lineup (Chilpancingo)

Previous Tapings: 11/19 (Leon), 11/22 (Toluca), 11/30 (Madreo, GdT)

AAA TV (FRI) 12/14 Plaza de Toros Chilpancingo [Mario Rivero @ box y lucha]
1) Mini Charly Manson, Mini Dizzy, Octagoncito vs Jerrito Estrada, Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Histeria
2) Aero Star, Rey Cometa, Super Fly vs Crazy Clown, Killer Clown, Zombie Clown
3) Joe Lider, Juventud Guerrera, Taiji Ishimori vs Alan Stone, Chris Stone, Super Calo
4) Casandro, Intocable, Mascara Divina, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Jesse, Nygma, Polvo de Esterllas, Yuriko
5) Charly Manson & Chessman vs Extreme Tiger & Halloween
6) Head Hunter I, Kenzo Suzuki, Konnan, Zorro vs Cuervo, Escoria, Mesias, Ozz

Projected Air Date – this is total guess territory, but the post does say this is for 2008.
Mexico: 01/13/08
US: 02/02/08

Such a weird show.

So the main event says the rudos have split into two factions, but I still expect someone them end up together. Maybe Mesias will get turned on, I dunno.

Chessman’s clearly falling from a high place (but that’s usual.) You know, if they wrestled that match straight, or at least much closer to it than the lightbulb tube breaking that I suspect, I might actually be looking for it. Instead, it’ll be all extreme and I’ll be fast forwarding.

Intocable vs the Night Queens is just going to be plain odd. So is the Bello Stones flipping back to the rudo side for no real reason, and Ishimori making another random appearance. I’m thinking the clowns in the segunda might just be the previous clowns, but we’ll see. Mini Charly is officially a tecnico. I wonder if Mascarita Divina will soon become a rudo?

Announced Future Dates
– none; they’re off till ’08.

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12/04: Mistico, Toscano, Santo


This post says Mistico was in a car accident last night. He suffered an ankle injury, but apparently it was minor enough that he wrestled later that night.

CMLL explained, to Notimex, Toscano was hurt last Thursday in Guadalajara. I have no idea who then worked on Sunday in Guadalajara, but let’s go with it. It’s a lower back injury, one that will only keep him out two weeks, but that’s enough to remove him from the end of year show.

El Hijo del Santo talked about his match at the WBC/CMB convention in Manilla to Notimex. Note that in this story, no one mentions the title belt is honorary. I’m not a big boxing fan, so it was only when I was watching the 24/7 specials last week when I realized Floyd Mayweather is part of the same promotion. (I think a unification match is order if Mayweather wins.) This article says Santo invited the WBC president to Todos X Todos, but I think he’ll surely have commitments in Las Vegas that night.

Ovaciones has interviews with Super Muneco and Mascara Sagrada. They both think they can win a mask match against their teammates (Fishman Jr. and Pentagon Black) if it comes to it.

All Tuesday Arena Mexico shows will be 2 for 1 from here on out.

Arturo Rivera mentions both Tiffany and Miss Janeth are new mothers. Congratulation to them. In other AAA hospital news, Cibernetico expects to get out today (new girlfriend Sabrina is there with him at the hospital) and La Parka should be home and rehabbing in a couple days.

AAA (SUN) 12/02 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [rfc]
1) Baby Fox & Scravos b Criminal & Iron Extreme
2) Aguila Extrema & Guerrero Blanco b Dranser & Virtual X
3) Fabi Apache & Mascarita Sagrada b Ayako Hamada & Mini Abismo Negro
4) Decnnis & Super Calo b Antifaz del Norte & Espíritu
5) Zorro b Alan Stone and Kenzo Suzuki [bull terrier]

AAA (SUN) 12/02 Plaza San Pedro, Puebla [morgan_alebrije @ box y lucha]
1) Amenaza Nortena L Triple X, Milenium, Gataca, King Vikingo, Sadico, King Dart, El Coronel [hair]
2) Joe Lider & Mexicano DQ Gallego & Mr. Cóndor
3) Alberije & Cuije b Chucky & Monsther and Guapito & Scorpio Jr. [AAA MASCOT TAG]
4) El Elegido, Estrellita, Gronda II DQ Histeria, Rossy Moreno, Sangre Chicana

Sangre Chicana replaced Mr. Niebla in the match, but Mr. Niebla did show and was the second for the trio team. His shoulder must be bugging him, but not so much that he can’t low blow Elegido. In the segunda, the Diabolicos got the DQed for hitting Joe Lider with a light tube. That’s a DQ now?

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12/03: Mexico, End of the Year change, Santo, IWRG, Guadalajara, Leon, El Paso, lineups

CMLL (SUN) 12/02 Arena Mexico [ovaciones]
1) Calígula, Hooligan, Méssala b Sensei, Sombra de Plata, Trueno
2) Shigeo Okumura, Skandalo, Virus b Metálico, Stuka Jr., Tigre Blanco
3) Amapola b Marcela [CMLL WOMEN]
4) Ephesto, Mephisto, Misterioso II b Felino, Sagrado, Volador Jr.
5) Leono b Mr. México [hair]
6) Místico, Rey Bucanero, Shocker b Black Warrior, Lizmark Jr., Olímpico

That’s Leono’s fourth hair match win of the year! No one cares. To be fair, no one cared about Amapola’s title defense or the preview of the End Of Year main event; under 2,000 turned out for this show. When they announced the double hair match, I thought it would draw a decent crowd for the match but was worried about the crowd they’d get for the lead up. That seems to be happening.

Lizmark Jr. is officially taking Toscano’s place in the Sin Limite main event. Toscano is listed as out due to injury, though there’s a report linked later mentioning ex-Tarzan Boy wrestling in Guadalajara just yesterday. There’s a few other subs:

CMLL (FRI) 12/07 Arena Mexico
1) Amapola, Hiroka, Medussa vs Dark Angel, Luna Magica, Marcela
2) Felino, Super Nova, Valiente vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Virus
3) Dos Caras Jr., La Sombra, Sagrado vs Damián 666, Mr. Águila, Terrible
4) Atlantis, Averno, Último Guerrero vs Blue Panther, Místico, Negro Casas
5) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo vs LA Park
6) Rey Bucanero & Shocker vs Black Warrior & Lizmark Jr. [hair]

Hiroka replaces Mima, Luna replaces Sahori, Mephisto replaces Misterioso II, Sagrado replaces Volador Jr. Those all can’t be injuries.

El Hijo del Santo made the rounds for interviews with the lucha magazines this week, as last second hype for Todos X Todos. Things are obviously still in flux with the show; in the Super Luchas interview, Santo talks about possibly getting the show on CAN52 or Fox Sports or other networks. It’s since come out that the show will be on Televisa, the one network specifically not mentioned. Things change.

Santo doesn’t want us to take the shifting names in the mask tournament as a bad sign; he says he had 20 men ready to go for the match, plenty of backups he was happy with if others couldn’t participate for whatever reason. In the SuperLuchas interview, Santo reveals he wanted to get old partner Octagon on the show, but AAA refused to allow him to work the show. Of the people who’ve pulled out, the only two Santo’s upset with is Angel Blanco Jr. (no real reason specified, but I imagine it’s “you’re Angel Blanco Jr., you’ve got nothing better to do”) and LA Park (who was just using Santo to leverage a good deal from CMLL, Santo figures.) Santo says Dr. Wagner approached him about working the show, but when Wagner said he could only work the show if AAA guys did not, Santo figured he was still a enough of a CMLL guy that it wasn’t wroth trying.

When asked, Santo picked Fishman Jr., Lizmark, Pentagon Black and Blue Demon Jr. as possible losers.

IWRG (THU) 11/29 Arena Naucalpan [superluchas]
1) Judas el Traidor b Latin Brother
2) Trauma I & Trauma II b Gallo Tapatio Jr. & Kid Tiger
3) Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Krator b Fabián el Gitano, Fantasma de la Ópera, Multifacetio
4) Bogeman & Negro Navarro DRAW Mascara Ano 2000 Jr. & Pierroth
5) Pantera, Ultraman Jr., Yamato b Damián 666, Hijo del Cien Caras, Villano III

Main event was supposed to build Negro Casas vs Villano III, the rematch, but Negro Casas wasn’t there and replaced by Yamato. Oops. Semifinal went DQ, DQ, DCO. Black Terry and Fantasma de la Opera still are feuding. Latin Brother was taken the hospital after a dive gone wrong.

IWRG (SUN) 12/02 Arena Naucalpan [ovaciones]
2) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro b Captian Muerte, Cyborg, Xibalva [EdM TRIOS]
3) Fantasma de la Ópera b Black Terry [IWRG IC WELTER]

Both championships are retained. They’ve got to be doing a mask/hair match soon, I hope. There’s no Thursday IWRG show this week, or they’re being very quiet about it.

CMLL (SUN) 12/02 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [MedioTempo]
4) El Gallo b Mach 1 [mask]
5) Alex Koslov, Dos Caras Sr., Rayman DQ Terrible, Texano Jr., Toscano

I don’t know why MedioTiempo has started putting up occasional Guadalajara results, but it sure is great. Gallo lost the first fall but took 2 and 3. Mach 1 is Juan Crecencio Segundo, from Toluca, 19 years a wrestler. Terrible yanked Dos’ mask in the main event.

CMLL (SAT) 12/01 Domo de la Feria de Leon []
4) Alex Koslov, Marco Corelone, Rey Bucanero b Damián 666, Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila
5) La Sombra, Místico, Sagrado b Atlantis, Averno, Último Guerrero

Show was on Saturday because Monday was booked for something else. Mistico beat Averno in the main event.

DELGADO (SUN) 12/02 El Paso, TX
1) Huniko b Rey America
2) Fuego & Rey Halcon b Asertijo & Atomo (local)
3) Nacho Libre & Spiderman b Rey Guerrero & Tiger Man
4) Nascar b Galactico [DELGADO]
5) Fishman Jr., Hurricane Hector, Rey Escorpion b Baby Solis, Magno, Vaquero (El Paso)

This was Magno’s third match of the day. Santo’s in next week.

This story has the headline “Blue Demon vs Blue Demon Jr., and yet has nothing to do with the wrestlers. Vastly disappointing.

The Globe and Mail has a two part story about going to Arnea Mexico and Arena Coliseo. Vampiro makes cameo appearances, and they give away Starman’s real name. He’s a trainer at a small lucha school.

Box Y Lucha has another video interview, this with Kato Kung Lee. He’s retired from the ring due to a blood clot. There’s also an Alex Koslov interview that’s a bit hidden.

Box Y Luchas #2847 has bald, bloody Scorpio Jr.
– Super Luchas #241 has Averno with the belt, Cibernetico going thru a table on fire, and Mistico, Octagon and Atlantis together (at an awards show.)

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11/02: GdT notes

Most of the news is additional details from Guerra de Titanes

– Ovaciones, via Arutro Rivera, reports Cibrenetico was hospitalized after the show. Mesias lit a table on fire and put Cibernetico thru it to retain the title. (video here.) Cibernetico was okay in the back for a bit, but later collapsed and was brought to the hospital and treated for first/second degree burns on his legs, back and chest. Marco Rivera posted Cibernetico’s out for fourty days, though he may only miss a week or two off TV with the way things work out. (So, by complete unfortuante accident, a Hell Brother will be selling a show ending injury.)

– Arturo Rivera says Electroshock and Charly Manson got into a fight after the show. Electroshock is said to have taken the worst of it, with one eye swelled shut. I assume this is an angle, because those two fued forever and a day.

– La Parka Jr. will undergo shoulder surgery on Monday. The Legion destroyed him up after the match, including Sabu giving him a chair senton.

– Mr. Niebla hurt a shoulder. Laredo Kid was still on crutches. Octagon took a martinete, so he may be out. Abismo Negro is due back in two weeks, and has dropped 15 kg (33 lb) in his time off.

Chui noted in the comments the next taping is 12/14 Chilpanicingo. Also, GdT airs in Mexico on 12/23, so my future episode projection looks okay, but the order may be off (see below)

Didn’t catch DeporTV before it got deleted. I’ll catch up with it whenever it gets posted.


CMLL’s had highlights of the title match. They did a whole “La Mistica reversed into Devil’s Wings reversed back into La Mistica but Averno gets the ropes” sequence. Averno completely and totally pulled off Mistico’s mask as a La Mistica counter, covering him just in time to conceal what he had done from Babe Richard. I have no idea what this will do for business, but there were many rudo fans jumping up out of their seats in jubilation at the finish.

AAA was Cibernetico/Charly vs Electro/Zorro vs Cibernetico/Zorro from Toluca, which jumps a couple tapings. I guess they opted to skip around because this was the show they did for the Teleton and this was Teleton week – maybe the other shows will be in the usual order. Parka is only visible as hanging out on the apron, and getting shoved into the seats by Mesias late. Chesssman runs into blow mist at the other two, and the Hell Brothers get simultaneous wins (including Cibernetico beating Zorro again.)

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11/30 AAA TV Results (Guerra de Titanes)

Previous Tapings: 11/15 (Xalapa), 11/19 (Leon), 11/22 (Toluca)

AAA TV (FRI) 11/30 Centro de Convenciones de Ciudad Madero, Tamaulipas [WiLLy_S @ Satanico’s Mansion]
1) Aero Star, Rey Cometa, Super Fly b Cuervo, Escoria, Ozz
2) Gran Apache & Mari Apache b Billy Boy & Fabi Apache and Espiritu & La Diabolica and Ayako Hamada & Mr. Niebla [AAA MIXED TAG]
3) Crazy Boy & Joe Lider b Charly Manson & Chessman and Extreme Tiger & Halloween and Sabu & Teddy Hart [AAA TAG, ladder]
4) La Parka Jr. & Octagón DQ Electro Shock & Kenzo Suzuki [MEX TAG]
5) Scorpio Jr. L Alan Stone, Super Calo, Intocable, Decnnis, Zumbido [cage, hair]
6) Mesias b Zorro and Cibernetico [AAA HEAVY]

Projected Air Date (#659)
Mexico: 12/23 (and 12/30?)
US: 01/12 (and 01/19?)

This is just off one poster’s (nicely detailed) results. Hopefully there’s more info to come from other sources.

Main event sounds like it turned into an elimination match, though I’m not totally sure. Cibernetico took out Zorro, the Sect ran down and helped Mesias beat Cibernetico. So the playoff turns out to be the same finish they’ve been doing all year. (Not sure if they did they revealed the Mesias/Konnan breakup was a fake, but that’d fit.) I don’t understand this decision at all, but they must feel there’s more mileage in this 18 month feud.

Order of escape from the cage match was Zumbido, Calo, Intocable and Decnnis. Alan beat Scorpio to take his hair.

Electro got his team DQed in the tag title match, fouling Octagon I believe. They did a big injury angle with La Parka Jr., and he should be out for a while.

Ladder match was a total US style spot fest. Charly Manson and Chessman were actually holding the ladder when Joe Lider climbed up to grab the belts at the end.

Before the mixed tag match, AAA announced Cinthia Moreno was unable to participate due to a spine injury. She and Oriental will get a shot at the titles win she’s healthy, and they were replaced by Espiritu and Diabolica. Apaches are new champions, so we’ve got lots more family feuding to come.

Air Force does want a shot at the Atomicos titles, but it wasn’t clear if it was accepted.

Announced Future Tapings
– none; it’s unclear if this means they’re done for ’07 or if they’ve just not got around to mentioning it.

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12/01: Mexico, GdT, IWRG, AULL, lineups

CMLL (FRI) 11/30 Arena Mexico [ovaciones, ESTO]
1) Starman & Trueno b Apocalipsis & Loco Max
2) Euforia, Nosferatu, Satánico b Fabián el Gitano, Flash, Mascara Purpura
3) Alex Koslov, Rey Bucanero, Shocker b Black Warrior, Lizmark Jr., Nitro
4) Dos Caras Jr., LA Park, Marco Corelone b el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Héctor Garza, Texano Jr.
5) Averno b Místico [NWA MIDDLE]

Yes, he won. Averno’s now beaten Mistico three straight times. He’s the 85th champion, and Mistico is down to ‘only’ the IWRG Super Middleweight and CMLL Welterweight titles. This is title change #6 of the month.

Averno won the first fall, Mistico won the second. In the third, Euforia (as Averno’s second) distracted Babe Richard, and Averno yanked Mistico’s mask and pinned him. Ovaciones insists that Averno didn’t need to do that to win, for what it’s worth. Mistico was livid after the match, ripping up Babe Richard’s shirt for making that call. Mask vs Mask challenges, as well.

Park got away with a low blow on Perro to get his team the win.

Toscano is out injuried. Nitro replaced him in his match. ESTO says Lizmark Jr. would replace Toscano in next week’s hair match if he’s unable to wrestle next week.

Partial GdT results, via ovaicones and a second hand superluchas report (since the site isn’t coming up for me)

AAA TV (FRI) 11/30 Centro de Convenciones de Ciudad Madero, Tamaulipas
2) Gran Apache & Mari Apache b Billy Boy & Fabi Apache and Cinthia Moreno & Oriental and Ayako Hamada & Mr. Niebla [AAA MIXED TAG]
3) Crazy Boy & Joe Lider b Charly Manson & Chessman and Extreme Tiger & Halloween and Sabu & Teddy Hart [AAA TAG, ladder]
4) La Parka Jr. & Octagón b Electro Shock & Kenzo Suzuki [MEX TAG]
5) Scorpio Jr. L Alan Stone, Super Calo, Intocable, Decnnis, Zumbido [cage, hair]

IWRG (THU) 11/22 Arena Naucalpan The Gladiatores]
1) Puma King b Rockero del Diablo
2) Golem & Kid Tiger b Trauma I & Trauma II
3) Fantasma de la Ópera, Gallo Tapado, Multifacetico b Oficial 911, Oficial Fierro, Radioactivo
4) Bogeman, el Hijo Del Anibal, Negro Navarro, Pantera b Cien Caras Jr., Damián 666, Mascara Ano 2000 Jr., Pierroth
5) Black Terry b Cerebro Negro [hair]

Black Terry got a little help from Fantasma de la Opera, who hit Cerebro Negro with a chair. Fantasma is saving Black Terry’s hair so he can win himself later on, we believe.

After losing, Pierroth challenged Negro Navarro to a hair match. Pierroth just lost his hair and is bald.

Trauma 2 and Golem got hurt in their match.

AULL (SUN) 11/25 Arena Lopez Mateos [the gladiatores]
1) Pequeno Demonio & Pequeno Rebelde b Rey Cristal
2) Blasfemia & Herejia b Militar & Star Cat
3) Misterio, Psicopata, Super Panda b Epitafio, Heavy Boy, Rey Crimen
4) Sadico b Yakuza [AULL LIGHT]
5) Villano III DRAW Mano Negra
6) Dr. Wagner Jr., Onita Santana, Sepulturero I DQ Atlantis, Robin Maravilla, Terry 2000 [ri]

Atlantis pulled Wagner’s mask in the main event. Villano and Mano Negra, pretending it was 1977 with masks and belts, pinned each other for double three count.

Expected title match happens on Tuesday.

CMLL (TUE) 12/04 Arena Mexico Lineup
1) Rayo Tapatio I, Rayo Tapatio II vs Super Comando, Artillero
2) Starman, Trueno, Molotov vs Messala, Caligula, Zayco
3) Mascartia Sagrada, Shockercito, Atomo vs Pierrothito, Pequeno Damian, Mini Black Warrior
4) Heavy Metal, La Mascara, Felino vs Satanico, Euforia, Nosferatu
5) Hijo de Lizmark, Mephisto, Sangre Azteca vs Volador Jr., Sombra, Valiente
6) Ultimo Guerrero, Atlantis vs Negro Casas, Blue Panther [CMLL TAG]

Next week’s end of the year lineup has one addition.

CMLL (FRI) 12/07 Arena Mexico
1) Amapola, Medussa, Mima Shimoda vs Dark Angel, Marcela, Sahori
2) Felino, Super Nova, Valiente vs Ephesto, Misterioso II, Virus
3) Dos Caras Jr., La Sombra, Volador Jr. vs Damián 666, Mr. Águila, Terrible
4) Atlantis, Averno, Último Guerrero vs Blue Panther, Místico, Negro Casas
5) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo vs LA Park
6) Rey Bucanero & Shocker vs Black Warrior & Toscano [hair]

CMLL Guerreros del Ring #106 has
11/23: Amapola, Medussa, Princesa Sujei b Dark Angel, Lady Apache, Marcela (repeat from main show)
11/25: Blue Panther, Marco Corelone, Rey Bucanero b Atlantis, Último Guerrero, Virus
Outside the ring: Damian 666

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11/30: Mexico preview, Cuernavaca

Tonight’s CMLL show.

CMLL (FRI) 11/30 Arena Mexico
1) Starman & Trueno vs Apocalipsis & Loco Max
2) Fabián el Gitano, Flash, Mascara Purpura vs Euforia, Nosferatu, Satánico
3) Alex Koslov, Rey Bucanero, Shocker vs Black Warrior, Lizmark Jr., Toscano
4) Dos Caras Jr., LA Park, Marco Corelone vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Héctor Garza, Texano Jr.
5) Místico vs Averno [NWA MIDDLE]

Mistico vs Averno in NWA Middlweight title matches:
01) 2005.01.01 Mistico b Averno – Arena Coliseo DF (Mistico wins title, becomes The Man)[NWA MIDDLE],
02) 2005.01.30 Mistico b Averno – Arena Coliseo De Guadalajara
03) 2005.02.11 Mistico b Averno – Arena Mexico
04) 2005.02.21 Mistico b Averno – Arena Puebla
05) 2005.10.16 Mistico b Averno – Arena Coliseo De Guadalajara
06) 2005.12.29 Mistico b Averno – Arena Isabel De Cuernavaca
07) 2006.01.16 Mistico b Averno – Arena Puebla
08) 2007.06.24 Mistico b Averno – Poliforum Zamna – Merida, Yucatan
09) 2007.06.30 Mistico b Averno – Arena Solidaridad
10) 2007.09.30 Mistico b Averno – Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
11) 2007.11.22 Mistico b Averno – Palenque Expomex, Nuevo Laredo

Averno just beat Mistico so totally clean last week, there’s no doubt he’s losing once again tonight. I think this feud is peaking or has peaked and, as sad as it might be, now’s the time they could get maximum value for doing the mask match. There’s no way they’re going to do it this year, though – it’s too late in the year, it’s not enough continuous build. (Maybe in March?) This seems like a way just to get one more strong turnout before the end of the season (and before they’re running every single show in the building.)

Tercera and semimian really should be switched and probably will be. The guys in next week’s main event shouldn’t be in the middle of the card.

I guess we find out if Flash is back or not tonight.

ESTO’s preview of tonight’s Arena Mexico show includes quotes from LA Park. He’s a tecnico tonight because he just likes switching sides a lot and he uses the “I only wanted to face Santo one on one line.” Looking back at it now, Park doing that same speech at the press conference had to be a escape plan in case he wanted out later. I don’t think Park knew he wasn’t going to do Todos X Todos at that point, but he sure set up an easy way out of it.

CMLL (THU) 11/29 Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca [strato_wagner @ Satanico’s Mansion]
1) La Máscara, Mascara Purpura, Valiente DRAW La Sombra, Sagrado, Volador Jr.
2) LA Park & Místico b Averno & Último Guerrero

I thought that semifinal was supposed to be a title match this time out, but apparently it was not, and they did another draw finish and challenge for a title match at the next show.

AAA (SUN) 12/02 Plaza San Pedro
1) Gataca vs Milenium, Triple X, Amenaza Nortena, King Vikingo, Sadico, King Dart, El Coronel [hair, mask]
2) Joe Lider & Mexicano vs Gallego & Mr. Cóndor
3) Alberije & Cuije vs Chucky & Monsther and Guapito & Scorpio Jr. [AAA MASCOT TAG]
4) El Elegido, Estrellita, Gronda II vs Histeria, Mr. Niebla, Rossy Moreno

CMLL (MON) 12/03 Arena Puebla [hugo999]
1) Asturiano & Centella de Oro vs Fuerza Chicana & Mr. Rafaga
2) Cerebro Negro, Furia Chicana, Toro Bill vs Black Terry, Policeman, Siki Osama Jr.
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Flash, Stuka Jr. vs Loco Max, Ohara, Shigeo Okumura
4) Universo 2000, Villano IV, Villano V vs Alex Koslov, Marco Corelone, Shocker
5) LA Park, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Héctor Garza, Misterioso II

ESTO’s notes article talks about Sombra winning the NWA Welterweight Title and guessing he might win Rookie of the Year. I can’t think of anyone else close.

Lady Apache was teaching self defense yesterday in Mexico City.

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Guerra de Titanes 9 preview

If there’s another 2007 taping for AAA, they’ve kept it awful quiet. This could be it for the year; ESTO’s preview seems to indicate that. Mesias is expected to go back to Puerto Rico until March after this show. Kenzo went back to Japan for a few months after last December’s CMLL show; even though he’s just back from a Dragon Gate tour, he might disappear agian until they start running regular TV.

1) Aero Star, Rey Cometa, Super Fly vs Cuervo, Escoria, Ozz

This is the only non-stip match on the show. When this was announced, I wondered why they wouldn’t just add Espiritu and another Air Force guy and make this for the Atomicos title. Now that I’ve had a month to think about it, I belive it’s non-title because they’d want to the Air Force to win if these two teams faced for titles, they’d want Laredo Kid to be on that title winning team, and he’s unlikely to be 100% (though he will be make an appearance higher up in the card.) So this is just a match to set up for that match, and I’d guess that means the tecnicos win.

2) Billy Boy & Fabi Apache vs Cinthia Moreno & Oriental and Gran Apache & Mari Apache and Ayako Hamada & Mr. Niebla [AAA MIXED TAG]

La Diabolica has found a spot for herself in this feud for unclear reasons, but I guess she could turn out to replace Cinthia Moreno if Cinthia’s too injuried to compete. (Cinthia hasn’t be wrestling that I’ve seen since 10/20, due to her shoulder injury.) It wouldn’t really make sense for Diabolica to team with Oriental (Estrellita or Sexi Star have to be available), but there are weirder things going on, on this very card.

This match is just another marker in the Apache/Billy Boy fued. It seems like they’re aiming for three straight years of Gran Apache vs Billy Boy in a hair match for Rey de Reyes, so the finish here is probably just supposed to set them up for the next four months. If Mari’s going to keep wrestling until then (and sometimes seems like she’d rather not), she and Gran Apache should take the belts to set up family rematches the rest of the way. If she’s not, then Fabi and Billy win the titles and defending against Gran Apache and random ruda of the moment. That empty spot would fit La Diabloica, so I’ll go with Billy and Fabi win the titles.

3) Charly Manson & Chessman vs Crazy Boy & Joe Lider and Extreme Tiger & Halloween and Sabu & Teddy Hart [AAA TAG, ladder]

Unless someone has actually seen Sabu and Teddy Hart in Madero, I don’t think you can be totally sure this match is going down as listed. It might, but those two have had issues. I’m hoping they do – never has a promotion and a wrestler been a better match than AAA and Teddy Hart. AAA frequentantly devolves into uncontrolled insanity, and so does Teddy Hart. And so is this match, probably.

Seeing as they’ve already started the Familia de Tijuana/lesser Hellbrothers feud – to explain why Charly and Chessman are even in this match – I think that’s the direction AAA’s coming out of this match. Remember when Charly said he was retiring after this year? Not so much now (unless he has another horrifying ladder spot here.) Mexican Powers probably would be just as happy facing Random US(/Canada) Indy Stars, and while I’m not sure if AAA will actually end up doing it, I’m sure they THINK they’re going to do it right now. They don’t have to have the belts for that, so they end up with Hellbrothers to set up the scene at the end of the show.

4) La Parka Jr. & Octagón (w/Laredo Kid) vs Electro Shock & Kenzo Suzuki (w/Konnan) [MEX TAG]

If you recall, the last time AAA tried to have a Mexican National Title match with a Japanese person, it was a cibernetico for the (then vacant) Mexican Middlweight Title and Nosawa back in 2005. The commission had previously put their foot down to force that title to be vacant and disallowed AAA from running the planned title match with Nosawa. I have no feeling if the comission will step in here, because it’s only been us message board poster types who’ve even commented about this issue. (Super Luchas noted the problem as well, but had no more answers than the rest of us.) If the comission does put a halt to this being a title match as listed, they could surely grab Espiritu and stick him in here, with Kenzo freely interfering.

I’ve had tecnicos winning all the matches to the point, and I think that’s the only reason I have to belive the rudos win, but that’s what I’m going with. These are mostly useless belts, a championship which was bordering on defunct until they turned up here, but they need to be taken off Parka and Octagon if they’re ever going to use them again. Parka is getting worse and needs a long break after this match (who knows if he’ll get it), so maybe they do another injury angle with him here.

5) Alan Stone, Intocable, Super Calo vs Decnnis, Scorpio Jr., Zumbido [cage, hair]

Normal AAA cage rules apply: “last person left in the cage, be they an announced particpant, a mini manager or a referee, is the one whom loses their hair.” Guapito and Chris Stone are announced to be ringside, Piero is probably the referee and those three all have as good or better chances of being the eventual loser than the six in the match. This is supposed to be AAA’s first six side cage match, which will eventually give Chessman more places to fall to his death.

Alan’s not losing. Intocable’s not losing. AAA’s done a lot of things, but I don’t think they’re capable of giving Decnnis a new gimmick, pushing him hard for four months, and then having him be a big loser, so he’s safe for now. All the other people, Calo, Scorpio, Zumbido, Chris Stone, Guapito and Piero are all reasonable choices. I figure on Intocable or Alan being credited with the win, which means it’s a Guapo who goes down, and I’ll guess Zumbido in a slight surprise. I’ve got nothing to back that up.

6) Zorro vs Cibernetico vs Mesias [AAA HEAVY]

I’d say Every Man For Himself, but it’s more likely Every Man In The Locker Room Runs In. I’m not totally clear if it’s meant to be one pinfall or elimination.

This is the end of Mesias, though probably not quite as specatuclarlly as last year. (Either that, or it’s the Legion’s turn to burn him alive.) I’d been writing earlier about what they can do with Zorro so we don’t even up with a Konnan in-ring dominated 2008. The best way to get there is Zorro winning the title, on the surface.

I’ve been rethinking this the last couple days, and I think I’m flipping on this. Protect Zorro if you can, but if the belt is supposed to denote The Guy, then it must be on Cibernetico at this point. The AAA fans who go to shows and watch their TV in Mexico clearly see the Main Man at a level above all others; Mesias has gotten enough on Cibernetico and talked about being the best enough that people could accept him as a reasonable competition for the top spot, but Zorro’s not there yet. If Zorro gets the title here, it’s just another random shiny piece of gold and AAA wasted their time with the tournament for the title and the build for this match. Zorro would even be better of winning the title down the road then winning it here.

Best possible finish is Zorro caning Mesias from outside the ring, and Mesias stumbling into the chokeslam for Cibernetico’s win. It sets up Mesias’ revenge and it gives Cibernetico and Zorro something to work with inbetween.

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11/29: Sunday card lineup, MS-2

There’s nothing going on today. What passes for Hot News is Carlito leaving WWE and possibly ending up in AAA (according to WON), though he wouldn’t show up till early ’08 if it even happens.

CMLL actually added two matches to Sunday’s card.

CMLL (SUN) 12/02 Arena Mexico
1) Sensei, Sombra de Plata, Trueno vs Calígula, Hooligan, Méssala
2) Metálico, Stuka Jr., Tigre Blanco vs Shigeo Okumura, Skandalo, Virus
3) Amapola vs Marcela [CMLL WOMEN]
4) Felino, Sagrado, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Misterioso II
5) Leono vs Mr. México [hair]
6) Black Warrior, Lizmark Jr., Olímpico vs Místico, Rey Bucanero, Shocker

Marcela getting a title shot is quite random, since they’ve been building up Lady Apache getting a title shot. This should be fun and probably make TV, I’m not complaining.

Ovaciones writes about MS-2 returning to the ring. The short blurb has MS-2 claiming to be the original, but I believe MS-2 was a name used by many local wrestlers, to be the partner of the night for MS-1. I’m not sure what’s going on here.

Ovaciones also has a note about AAA being recognized as the Sport of the Year by the National Magazine Circulation organization. I guess they’ve been selling the most copies? Or they’ve been selling a lot more than the 0 we were pegging them for this time last year. Estrellita was named luchadora of the year, and I can’t think of why that’d be true.

Super Amigos airs Saturday (and already aired Wednesday) in the Santa Fe Film Festival.

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