CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX #237 (06/05/2010)

Arena Coliseo, 05/30/2010

Rush vs Pólvora, Sagrado, Nosferatu, Delta, Skándalo, Metro, Arkangel de la Muerte, Fuego, Dr. X, Hooligan, Rey Cometa in a cibernetico match and part 2: I tend to like ciberneticos more than most, so maybe you need to adjust your opinion, but I thought this was good. There was an iffy stretch in the middle, Nosferatu being the second to longest lasting rudo was strange and I’m still confused about the finish but there were plenty of fun stuff and they deviated from the pattern enough to make it surprising.

Arkangel was a secret amusing MVP of the match, both for his early wackiness and then for doing a set of near double pin spots to lead up the double pin spot. It’s the inescapable finish at that point, might as well play around with it.

Sagrado did a fine job of getting Delta to stay down and not jump back in the match. If his brain was scrambled enough to think that move was a good idea before he hit the ground, who knows what he would’ve tried later.

Rey Cometa is really good and we should be agitating for better spots for him.

06/19-20 Lucha Times


AAA-US: Hermandad/Parka vs Chessman/Hernandez/Kenzo. Mixed tag with Aero & Fabi vs Alex & Sexi should be good.

52MX: Mascara/Maximo/Valiente vs Invasors, Leono/Tony/Trueno vs Bronco/Durango/Inquisidor

LATV: if it’s new, a women’s trios + Poder Euforia vs Oro/Panther/Valiente

IWRG: a rerun


CMLL: Mex Trios match, return of Lyger, debut of Yoshihashi

AAA-MEX: the taping from this Wednesday, if they get it done quick enough. Hermandad/Cibernetico vs Hernandez/Park/Zorro

CMLL-FOX: Goya Kong’s debut, plus the Averno/Negro/Volador vs Dorado/Mistico/Aguila rematch. Only airs on Sunday this week.

C3: Ephesto/Panther, plus the Demus/Bam Bam feud continues

Puebla: off due to World Cup.

Monterrey: if it airs, maybe Park/Zorro vs Metal/Parka

Perros: off due to World Cup

CMLL-TFN: Shocker vs Dos Jr., this time for sure.

AAA on Televisa #941 (06/05/2010)

Arena Actopan, 05/19/2010

Mascarita Divina, Mini Charly Manson, Octagoncito vs Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Histeria, Mini Psicosis: reoccurring pattern of this show were matches that were not really good on their own but did the job in explaining the stipulation for TripleMania. Also, the winner of the preview match was usually the loser, like here where they did the couple ladder and chair spots and Mini Abismo won.

Cinthia Moreno, Fabi Apache, Mari Apache vs Jennifer Blade, Rain, Sexy Star: And here, where they talked about the maid outfit bit (and actually showed the post match bit of the rudas trying to dress Fabi in it on next week’s show), and yet the match wasn’t much good. I have not watched TripleMania at this point but I’m not expecting much.

Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario vs Silver King & Último Gladiador: a random collection of moves, in no particular order, with a overbooked finish. NEXT.

Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Electroshock in a cage match: I think I’ve written ten different variations of this, but it bears repeating: AAA ran a cage match to have interference, to build up to a straight match with no interference. Lucha cage matches remain usually awful

Cibernético, Heavy Metal, Nicho el Millionario vs Chessman, LA Park, Zorro: another angle instead of a match. It was very strange that they didn’t show Parka being arrested for gimmick infringement in the ring, but plenty of stuff about the build to this feud have been plenty weird.

06/16 AAA TV Results (SLP)

AAA TV (WED) 06/16 Auditorio Miguel Barragan de San Luis Potosi [DosDeTres, AAA]
1) Gato Eveready, Gran Apache, Relampago b Billy Boy, Decnnis, El Brazo
2) Cuervo & Escoria b Alan Stone & Chris Stone
3) Alex Koslov, Chessman, Kenzo Suzuki b Heavy Metal, Jack Evans, Pimpinela Escarlata
4) Electroshock & Último Gladiador b Dr. Wagner Jr. & Octagón
5) Hernandez, LA Park, Zorro b Cibernético, Joe Lider, Nicho el Millionario

2010 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#942)
Mexico: 06/20
US: 07/03

No Konnan on the taping, since he was at E3. No Perros, though they did not go unmentioned. LA Park did a promo (at least for Dos de Tres) saying he and Dorian were friends again and the Perros were coming in to destroy AAA. LA Park was in a good mood on the show, with AAA’s recap noting he was doing bits from his first run in AAA as La Parka. He also annoyed Marisela Pena enough that Pena threw a drink at him.  Park powerbombed Lider onto chairs to pick up the win.

Early on the show, Wagner was talking about winning the title and defending it against anyone, when he was interrupted Vampiro. Vampiro said Dr. Wagner Junior had hurt his knee many years ago, and wanted revenge. They brawled here. After the semimain, with Electroshock beating Wagner, Vampiro ran down again and attacked Wagner. Not sure how this will come off on TV, but this was kind of hilarious on Dos de Tres’ video, because security flooded the ring to presumbably keep them apart, except they all just stood in the ring and watched for a while until Vampiro pulled Wagner’s mask. Not sure if they came into the ring too soon or something else was supposed to happen. Electroshock was conflicted by the Vampiro/Wagner fight, leaving to the entrance then returning to do a lot of staring.

It seems like this is the setup for Vampiro challenging Dr. Wagner Jr. at Verano de Escandalo. You can see some logic in using Big Star Vampiro vs Wagner as a top match, especially on a show like this where they don’t have as long to build. The idea doesn’t hold up much past that – there are other guys who could’ve meant as much as Big Names and Vampiro/Wagner is going to be a poor match. AAA doesn’t seem to want to see Vampiro in the ring – he’s been pulled from more TV matches (2) than matches he’s actually had since coming back (1) – so putting him in a singles match is crazy.

With Electroshock hanging around and AAA loving to do multiman matches, it probably won’t be Vampiro vs Wagner one on one by the time the show runs around.

Chessman pinned Metal in the tercera.

Alan & Chris were having issues in their match and after their loss. I’m not sure the point of a breakup angle of guys who are barely on this show; even if one turns, it doesn’t mean much and it shouldn’t be expected to go anywhere.

There appeared to be no follow up to Relampago’s bit at TripleMania; he was the same opening card tecnico as he has ever been and got the pin on El Brazo. Maybe they taped something backstage, but if there’s nothing going on by Sunday’s taping, this has great possibilities of being a wacky lucha meme.

Perros, Oriental/Mistico, Copa Bobby Bonales

Perros del Mal have announced on their Facebook that they’re running in on Sunday’s AAA TV taping. 2010!

In Monday in Nuevo Laredo, Oriental pinned Mistico in a trios match after a foul.

More notes from the CMLL press conference: Estrellas del Ring has video, if you can’t wait for it to be clipped up on Ras de Lona. The Gladiatores recap explains Copa Bobby Bonales will not be a tournament, but simply a vote of CMLL wrestlers on – I guess whoever is the best wrestler, because that part isn’t clear.

This Sunday in Arena Neza, Ray Mendoza Jr. & Rayo Tapatio I meet where Rayo gets a mask vs hair mask if he wins, while Ray Mendoza gets not having to do that match if he wins. Also, Skayde defends the NWA Mexican Lightweight Championship, which is problematic in that Turbo is the lightweight champion (Skayde is the welterweight; it’s the same belt and they pretend they’re two different belts; NWA Mexico is serious!) but more problematic in that Ramstein can not even be considered a lightweight in a world with no actual weight divisions.

Mascara Ano 2000 says to Fuego en el Ring he wasn’t planning on returning to CMLL, but since Universo was going back, he decided to go with him. M2000 says he wasn’t doing more than basic training, but started getting a tan and taking training more seriously once he was back in CMLL. Remember, he was in IWRG until the moment he was in CMLL (and some moments after); here, Mascara says he has no plans to return to IWRG.

AAA is running a TV taping on 07/04 in Merida.

The Gladiatores has a two part video interview with Cassandro about his injury, rehab and benefit show.

DJ Spectro notes the 50th anniversary of Medico Asesino‘s passing.

Kcidis has Mistico trying to decide on who to feud with.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.


CMLL (TUE) 06/22 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Silueta vs Princesa Maya
2) Angelo & Virgo vs Drago & Ebola
3) Gallo, Metal Blanco, Palacio Negro vs Ángel del Mal, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
4) Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara, Máximo vs Mephisto, Terrible, Texano
5) Shocker vs Héctor Garza

Hector talks about how great he is (his mom is the most famous mom in Mexico, because her son is Hector Garza) to hype this match for Fuego en el Ring.

AAA Heroes en el Ring E3 Wednesday round up

* The game was part of a Konami showcase. AAA’s hype included La Parka, Elegido and Silver King doing a weigh in (?), then being interrupted by a promo on tape from Dr. Wagner, then getting into a random slap fight. This was all completely inexplicable to the people watching.

Sure looks like they had someone else in Silver King’s gear.

Today’s the day they’re doing the match for the cover. Wagner so definitely declared he would win in his promo, Parka seems the favorite again. Then again, the only guy who can promise a win as a rudo and actually get the win is Wagner.

* Hands on from CrunchGear

walking in to the game this morning I though, “Meh, hopefully it’s halfway decent.” I’m pretty sure I can say it’s quite a bit better than “halfway decent.” It’s fairly arcadey (as in a single big punch can send one guy over the ropes), but then again lucha libre itself is pretty arcadey, too.

* Operation Sports

I’m a big fan of wrestling and wrestling games, but I am not crazy about Lucha Libre at this point. I say that because the controls felt a little stiff, there seemed to be a lack of moves, and the wrestlers looked a little robotic when moving around the ring. For those who played TNA Impact, Lucha Libre seems to be falling into a lot of those same traps.

* Dave Meltzer stopped by the show (in LA for a MMA show, of course) and said the matches were real good, calling the minis match he saw *** 1/2 stars. Crowd likes the Psycho Circus; it’s the right audience for that crew. Konnan and Moody Jack were calling matches, which means they were in SLP at the taping last night. Dorian posted on Twitter that he and Wagner got into LA this morning.

* Rob says it’s Mascarita Divina in a Mascarita Sagrada suit. Sounds about right.

AAA on Televisa #940 (05/29/2010)

Gimnasio Jose Maria Arteaga, Queretaro, Queretaro, 04/30/2010

Aerostar & Relampago vs Billy Boy & Decnnis: I thought this was good, probably better than the next match if it had less Hilario. He just gives them excuses for lame finishes like this one. Given the volume of stuff on Parka/Park, it’d be nice if there was just one explanation about Relampago. Nothing here suggested he was just about to be a midcard rudo.

Extreme Tiger, Jack Evans, Rocky Romero vs Alex Koslov, Christopher Daniels, Joe Lider: This had some iffy moments but was largely pretty good. AAA actually having a plan for the random foreigner is a refreshing change of pace.

Cibernético, Heavy Metal, La Parka Jr. vs LA Park, Nicho el Millionario, Zorro: All angle, not much of a match. They did make Parka/Park seem like a big deal, and that’s sort of the point.

CMLL Press Conference notes (Niebla returns)

No big mask or hair mask was announced, and a lot of it was getting attention to matches that have been mention this week. There were a few surprises

  • The biggest surprise, and probably the biggest news, was the return of Mr. Niebla. Pesta Negra is reunited for the first time since February. CMLL says Mr. Niebla, who hasn’t been seen in a match since the end of March, has been in the United States rehabbing his knee for the last three months. No word on when he’ll have his first match.
  • The 2nd Copa de Bobby Bonales will take place on June 25th. The 1st Copa took place last year. I could not remember this, because it turns out the entirety of last year’s Copa was Bonales’ son giving Blue Panther a trophy. Unclear how/what this will be this year.
  • Hype for Mistico vs Mr. Aguila and Poder Mexica vs MSM Fly. Dorada, Stuka and Metro want a mask match, of course.
  • Taichi talked about returning to Japan (but promising revenge on Maximo), Sombra talked about the Best of Super Juniors and Lyger and Yoshihashi’s upcoming appearances were previewed.

Ephesto retains, Mistico challenges, Garza/Shocker, Terry/Navarro (by proxy), Record

CMLL (TUE) 06/15 Arena Mexico [@cmllmagazine]
1) Bengala & MetatrónArtillero & Súper Comando
2) Bam Bam, Eléctrico, Fantasy DQ Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia
3) Diamante, Sagrado, ValienteArkangel de la Muerte, Nosferatu, Virus
4) Brazo de Plata, Delta, MísticoAverno, Mephisto, Pólvora
5) EphestoRey Bucanero [CMLL LH]

Bucanero took the first, Ephesto the second. Ephesto managed to kick out after taking the Buca Storm and rolled up Bucanero with the Ephesto Cradle for the win. Awwww.

Mistico and Averno were left alone at the end of the semimain, and you know how that goes. To complete the return to 2005, Mistico challenged Averno to a shot at Averno’s [name redacted] World Middleweight Championship championship. All time, Mistico is 14-4 versus Averno in singles matches. In Averno’s defense, his last two wins were beating Mistico for this same title (in 2007) and retaining this title over Mistico (in 2008). This would be Averno’s first defense of the year. Probably his last.

Tecnicos minis won in straight falls, Demus being DQed for fouling Bam Bam in the second. Feels like we’ve got another match between those two coming up.

Metatron replaced Metalico.

CMLL (TUE) 06/15 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) RelampagoCerveruz
2) Ángel del Mal & InfiernoAstaroth & Magnum
3) Hierro & NeutrónEbola & Ráfaga
4) Ángel Azteca, Metal Blanco, RushCancerbero, Euforia, Raziel
5) Héctor Garza & Último Guerrero DQ Shocker & Toscano

Garza faked a foul to draw a DQ. This sets up a Shocker/Garza singles match next week.

IWRG FIL (TUE) 06/15 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del RingBlack Terry Jr. (flickr)]
1) Fly Star & Volaris b Silver Cat & Soldado de la Muerte
2) Flama Infernal, Mascarita de Oro, Sky Angel b Imperio Azteca, Imperio Negro, Serpierte Dorado
3) Dark Evil, Halcon 2000, Tonatiu b Dragon Fly, Guerrero 2000, Imperial
4) Eterno b Centella, Comando Negro, Alan Extreme, Dinamic Black, Hijo del Pantera, Keshin Black, Guizmo, Imposible, Luguer, Silver Boy, Smoke, Surdo, Aztlan [cibernetico]

Trainee show. Centella, Imposible, Luguer, Silver Boy, Smoke, Surdo and Aztlan are Negro Navarro trainees, the rest are from Black Terry’s class. Eterno beat Centella to win the trophy.

ESTO introduces Goya Kong, who says she just accompanied her sister to trainee with El Apache and ended up being a wrestler herself. Meanwhile, her sister was introduced on Ras de Lona months ago and still hasn’t debuted in CMLL.

CMLL Magazine says there’s a press conference today. Liger & Yoshihashi coming in figures to be a topic, as probably will Sombra’s BOSJ tour (his match versus Lyger is up now), the Father’s Day show, and maybe this Mistico/Averno title match. I’ll have a post on it later.

Record Luchas magazine has it’s latest edition up for free on their website in three parts: Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3. From reading the boards, it appears this is free because the magazine has been canceled and this issues wasn’t going to the printers. Record had a really good magazine (and it’s worth picking up if you stumble across old issues), focusing more on interviews and non-time specific articles since it came out monthly, but it’s a tough time for magazines.

Lucha Va Voom is in Chicago tonight for two shows at 7 and 10 Just like last time, I’ve ended up having other stuff to do on the same night and would be a couple hours late for the late show (so, no post about the AAA taping until late either), but if you’re not doing anything, it’s always worth checking out.

Jack Evans is learning Brazilian Luta Livre.

SuperLuchas has the new PWR Women’s Champion.

R de Rudo interviews El Italiana, who’s the daughter of a wrestler and says she’s the god daughter of Abismo Negro. She doesn’t have a driver’s license, which would seem to make it hard to work shows.


CMLL (MON) 06/21 Arena Puebla
1) Centella de Oro & Crazy Black vs Ares & Karisma
2) Pegasso, Rey Cometa, Sensei vs Loco Max, Nosferatu, Skándalo
3) Fuego, Metro, Valiente vs Euforia, Misterioso II, Pólvora
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Toscano vs Atlantis, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi
5) La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Jushin Lyger, Negro Casas, Universo 2000

Going to be tough for Negro Casas to get his title rematch if he’s teaming with Lyger the whole time.

CMLL (TUE) 06/22 Arena Mexico
1) Camaleón & Robin vs Disturbio & Semental
2) Dark Angel, Goya Kong, Lady Apache vs Amapola, La Comandante, Mima Shimoda
3) Bam Bam, Mascarita Dorada, Tzuki vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito
4) Delta, Toscano, Valiente vs Pólvora, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi
5) Máscara Dorada, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Super Porky vs Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Tzuki! It’s about five months to the day since Tzuki was either fired or put on Mr. Niebla suspension after he appeared in no condition to perform (but tried anyway) in a Puebla match. Hope he’s better, more for his sake, but also because that  looks like a pretty great match. Whatever they’re setting up with Bam Bam and Demus may be affect things.

Super Porky is listed under the Rotoporky name, for whatever reason.