12/16: Highlights, tv roundup

I haven’t found much news today.


highlights from Tuesday
Ángel Azteca Jr., Leono, Starman DQ Dr. X, Loco Max, Nitro
Ohara, Shigeo Okumura, Skandalo b Fabián el Gitano, Metálico, Stuka Jr.
Damián 666, Misterioso II, Mr. Águila b Alex Koslov, Sagrado, Valiente

Probably won’t be able to tape this next week.


CMLL: main event from Mexico, which seemed to be about usual. Only spot that suck out was Terrible catching Negro on his dive and ramming him back first into the post.

AAA: three way cage match from Leon. Cibernetico spears Mesias, chokeslams Zorro, stunners Mesias, and leaves when the Hell Brothers stop the Sect from interference. He hangs around to watch things at ringside, as the Sect and Legion fight each other at ring side for no particular reason. It’s mostly the Sect getting beat up by the Legion, with X-Pac and Electro stopping Mesais from getting out and Konnan bouncing around the likes of Cuervo with punches.

tv roundup

This is what I’ve got airing everywhere

CAN52: when I say “expected matches”, it’s lingo for “go look at what I posted on Wednesday, because I was right.”

12/07 Mexico Ephesto, Mephisto, Virus b Felino, Super Nova, Valiente
12/09 Mexico Dos Caras Jr., Marco Corelone, Volador Jr. b Texano Jr., Universo 2000, Villano IV


12/11 Mexico
Ángel Azteca Jr., Leono, Starman DQ Dr. X, Loco Max, Nitro
Ohara, Shigeo Okumura, Skandalo b Fabián el Gitano, Metálico, Stuka Jr.
Damián 666, Misterioso II, Mr. Águila b Alex Koslov, Sagrado, Valiente
La Máscara, Marco Corelone, Shocker b Olímpico, Sangre Azteca, Último Guerrero

Galavision CMLL – Mexico

12/14 Mexico
Felino, Heavy Metal, Rey Bucanero b Averno, Mephisto, Satánico
Atlantis, Lizmark Jr., Último Guerrero b Dos Caras Jr., Dr. Wagner Jr., Marco Corelone
LA Park, Negro Casas, Shocker b Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Terrible

Galavision AAA – Mexico
11/19 Leon
(not sure which matches)

Galavision AAA – US (Vuelta only)
11/11 Irapuato
La Parkita, Mascarita Divina, Octagoncito b Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Charly Manson, Mini Histeria
Cuervo, Escoria, Espíritu b Extreme Tiger, Halloween, TJ Extreme
Electro Shock & Zorro b Charly Manson & Chessman
Brazo de Plata & Super Fly b Antifaz, Head Hunter I, Ozz
Decnnis, Scorpio Jr., Zumbido b Alan Stone, Chris Stone, Super Calo
Zorro b Cibernetico

11/19 Coliseo
Euforia, Mr. México, Nosferatu b Fabián el Gitano, Leono, Mictlán
Felino, La Máscara, Negro Casas b Ephesto, Mephisto, Sangre Azteca

A Box Y Lucha poster mentioned the Pierroth/Park hair vs mask match (which turned in an extreme match) from Xalapa is being shown on the Llavaes show on Monday.

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12/14 AAA TV Taping Results (Chilpancingo)

Previous Tapings: 11/19 (Leon), 11/22 (Toluca), 11/30 (Madreo, GdT)

AAA TV (FRI) 12/14 Plaza de Toros Chilpancingo
1) Mini Charly Manson, Mini Dizzy, Octagoncito b Jerrito Estrada, Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Histeria
2) Crazy Clown, Killer Clown, Zombie Clown b Aero Star, Rey Cometa, Super Fly
3) Joe Lider, Juventud Guerrera, Taiji Ishimori b Alan Stone, Chris Stone, Super Calo
4) Casandro, Intocable, Mascara Divina, Pimpinela Escarlata b Jesse, Nygma, Polvo de Esterllas, Yuriko
5) Charly Manson & Chessman NC Extreme Tiger & Halloween
6) Electroshock, Head Hunter I, Kenzo Suzuki, Zorro b Cuervo, Escoria, Mesias, Ozz

Projected Air Date
Mexico: 01/13/08
US: 02/02/08

the Noti AAA Blog person posted these results on el Martiente, but I’m having a lot of trouble following them. It could very well be me today.

Zorro pinned Mesias in the main event. Mesais vowed revenge for Konnan turning on him.

Semimain just ended when they ran out of big moves to do, I guess. Extreme Tiger got hurt, which might have had to do with the lack of a finish.

Juvi pinned Alan in the tercera, which I hope is the start of a long term program and not just a dumb choice when Calo and Stone are standing right there.

Cometa hurt his knee in the segunda.

They’re now mirroring the main event scene in the minis, pushing Hell Brothers vs Vipers. I presume this means we’ll see Mini Chessman be a tecnico, if he returns. (He doesn’t really make sense as a tecnico, which makes me think he might not.)

Announced Future Dates
– none; they’re off till ’08.

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12/15: Mexico, lineups

CMLL (FRI) 12/14 Arena Mexico [ovaciones, ESTO, HesnupiH @ BOX Y LUCHA
1) Calígula & Méssala b Sensei & Tigre Blanco
2) Pequeño Black Warrior, Pequeño Damian 666, Pierrothito b Atomo, Mascarita Dorada, Tzuki
3) Felino, Heavy Metal, Rey Bucanero b Averno, Mephisto, Satánico
4) Atlantis, Lizmark Jr., Último Guerrero b Dos Caras Jr., Dr. Wagner Jr., Marco Corelone
5) LA Park, Negro Casas, Shocker b Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila, Terrible

Park’s team won the main in straight falls.

Ultimo Guerrero snuck in a foul on Wagner for the pinfall. Wagner left by an alternate path as to not cross ways with with Park between matches.

Tercera was said to be best of the night.

Mini Damian yanked Dorada’s mask to pin him, so that feud is underway. The resumption show figures to be on 01/18, and I think they’re on track for a title match there.

Ovaciones lists the crowd as over 8,000.

CMLL (TUE) 12/18 Arena Mexico
1) Super Camaleon & Super Tri vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Metálico, Starman, Tony Rivera vs Arkangel de la Muerte, Diamante Negro Jr., Dr. X
3) Flash, Stuka Jr., Super Nova vs Loco Max, Nosferatu, Virus
4) Heavy Metal, La Máscara, Valiente vs Mephisto, Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Villano III, Villano IV, Villano V vs Dos Caras Jr., Rey Bucanero, Volador Jr.

Good looking card, though the main event is not quite there.

CMLL (FRI) 12/21 Arena Mexico
1) Rayo Tapatío I & Rayo Tapatío II vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Pequeño Black Warrior, Pequeño Damian 666, Pierrothito vs Atomo, Mascarita Dorada, Tzuki
3) La Máscara, Sagrado, Volador Jr. vs Black Warrior, Misterioso II, Universo 2000
4) Heavy Metal, La Sombra, Negro Casas vs Atlantis, Averno, Último Guerrero
5) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila vs Dos Caras Jr., LA Park, Shocker

Perro Jr. is cleared to return for Friday at this point, so they’re not going to waste any time.

CAN52 listings will be up much later or tomorrow.

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12/14: Mexico preview, notes

CMLL (FRI) 12/14 Arena Mexico
1) Sensei & Tigre Blanco vs Calígula & Méssala
2) Atomo, Mascarita Dorada, Tzuki vs Pequeño Black Warrior, Pequeño Damian 666, Pierrothito
3) Felino, Heavy Metal, Negro Casas vs Averno, Mephisto, Satánico
4) Dos Caras Jr., Marco Corelone, Rey Bucanero vs Atlantis, Lizmark Jr., Último Guerrero
5) LA Park, Místico, Shocker vs , Héctor Garza, Mr. Águila
La Park’s revenge talk makes ESTO today as the main story of the show. Notimex hypes the return of Wagner. Ovaciones wonders if Wagner and Park will cross paths.

Atlantis’ new direct to video movie debuts before the wrestling tonight. Loco Max has a part in the movie.

ESTO writes about Mistico and Perro’s injuries. Nothing new about Perro, but they’re still one week away from getting a complete diagnosis for Mistico. On Wednesday’s Figure Four Daily (subscriber only – go subscribe), Steve Sims suggested the neck injury may not be as severe as advertised, but more so being used as a cover story to give Mistico some time off for general recovery.

Today’s also the last AAA taping of the year, though it won’t air until 2007. I’m still expecting everyone turning on Mesias, but I’ve been wrong about AAA lately.

OCESA, Mexico promoters of WWE events, released a list of scheduled participants, but this’ll surely be changed between now and 02/10. Tickets go on sale this weekend, so they’d just like people to be excited about it right now.

Ovaciones mentioned yesterday that Carlos Eilzondo, Arena Coliseo Monterrey promotion, was suing CMLL. He was part of the group when they changed from EMLL to CMLL and is upset about something or other – they’ve mentioned dues, but I think it’s more a power issue – but Arturo Rivera had mentioned this prior and nothing had come of it. Seems like nothing still is happening, because CMLL says they haven’t received word of a suit.

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12/13: notes

Mistico won luchador of the year at the Fox Sports awards. This airs on FSE this weekend.

La Park told Ovaciones today that he refuses to team with Dr. Wagner Jr. under any circumstances (and plans to still have a big match with Wagner soon). He’s just warning you, in case you were thinking about it. Don’t even team them up in Fire Pro or he’ll get mad at you.

(Park does not actually mention Fire Pro)

indy (FRI) 11/16 Arena Solidaridad [RFC]
1) Chica de Arabia, Mitsunory, Orquidea vs Atomo, Latino, Misionero
2) Caifan & Gato Volador vs Avenutrero & Silver Star and Apolo Estrada & Hijo del Apolo and Difunto I & Difunto II and Humberto Garza & Pancho Tequila and Mongol Chino & Potro and Principe Rebelde & Tacua and Bengali & Catts
3) Monje Negro vs Hator, Estrella, Diluvio Negro I, Diluvio Negro II, Vaquero [cage, hair, mask]

To me, the highlight of the last Arturo Rivera‘s column was Arturo just now finding out that Hator is out of AAA, and then relating a story about how Antifaz and Hator once accidentally got themselves booked on a show at a club – but it turned out to be a gay club.

AAA (FRI) 11/16 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [RFC]
1) Aguila Extrema vs Dr. Cianuro
2) Euforia (Monterrey) & Virtual X vs Dranser & Scravos
3) Hombre Sin Miedo & Iron vs Ramses & Sangre Chicana
4) el Ángel & Mascarita Sagrada vs El Brazo & Mini Abismo Negro
5) Alan Stone & El Alebrije vs Antifaz del Norte & Decnnis

Martha Villalobos is running an AAA awards show on 12/22 in Salon La Marka, according to Ovaciones.

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12/15-17 Lucha Times


AAA: A Christmas parade is scheduled for Saturday’s timeslot, and coincidentally repeats exactly where the overnight airing should be. Lucha de Vuelta is on the schedule, and we’ll presume the next episode airs there (Zorro vs Cibernetico, Zorro gets a title shot if he wins)

FSE-US: Fox Sports (Espanol) is running it’s award show Sunday night, in prime lucha time. They’ve moved lucha to the afternoon with a repeat overnight. Don’t have matches confirmed for this show, but it should be more Leono/Mexico build in the opener and the Villanos back together vs Koslov/Sagrado/Volador in the main.

Next week, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, they’re repeating two episodes a night (at 8 and 9 pm eastern). All episodes are in one run from the spring which definitely will include Stuka vs Jeque’s mask match and has either Leono/Mogur’s hair match or Texano’s rudo turn. The descriptions were wrong for so long, it’s tough to figure out how accurate they are now, but that’s the general time frame.

CAN52: Back to the normal four airings. Terror/Virus vs Felino/Valiente/Super Nova (who could make two shows this weekend) in the opener, and the main is heavyweights + Volador. (I guess Texano’s a LH?)


CMLL-MEX: No problem with Cadena3 running against this show this week, because the main show isn’t on till 7pm. 2 hour show, so probably 3 matches and no minis.

AAA-MEX: They’re finally just one show away from Guerra de Titanes. This one is the three way cage match.

FSE-Mex: Rudo Trueno in the main event!

Cadena3: top 3? I have no way of knowing at this point.

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Cadenatres video feed

If you (still) have real player installed, check http://www.cadenatres.com.mx/videos/pro_n/transmision.php; I don’t know how I missed it before, but Victor found the streaming link.

Keith said this show should be on at 4pm on Saturday. I’m not sure if I’ll be around for that, but if you watch it, let me know (and see if you can capture a copy.)

Hopefully we don’t kill the speed on that link with a billion people checking it at once.

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12/12: Mexico, Mini Cibernetico ’08

CMLL (TUE) 12/11 Arena Mexico
1) Calígula & Méssala b Rayo Tapatío I & Rayo Tapatío II
2) Ángel Azteca Jr., Leono, Starman DQ Dr. X, Loco Max, Nitro
3) Ohara, Shigeo Okumura, Skandalo b Fabián el Gitano, Metálico, Stuka Jr.
4) Damián 666, Misterioso II, Mr. Águila b Alex Koslov, Sagrado, Valiente
5) La Máscara, Marco Corelone, Shocker b Olímpico, Sangre Azteca, Último Guerrero

La Mascara beat Sangre Azteca with la campana and asked for a shot at the National Welterweight title. With Tuesday now being TV tapings, and cadenastres surely wanting feuds as much as anyone else, I think we’re going to see a more midcard title and hair feuds. It may be a good time to be a rudo with hair you’re not particularly attached to.

Leono replaced Trueno because I made fun of Leono yesterday. It’s all about vengeance. Starman got fouled in that match.

CMLL has announced the 01/04 (Fri) show will feature the 2008 Pequeno Reyes del Aire feud. Scheduled to complete:
– Mascarita Dorada
– Tzuki
– Bam Bam
– Shockercito
– Fantasy
– Pequeno Warrior
– Pequeno Halloween
– Pequeno Damian 666 (Mini’s title, last year’s winner)
– Pequeno Mr. Aguila
– Fire

That has possibilities.

Cibernetico is still being advertised for shows this month, including one next Wednesday in San Luis. The winner of the scheduled Mesias/Kenzo/Cibernetico three way wins a new Toyota car.

Crazy Boy hypes up his DTU “Descastre Total Ultraviolento” promotion, which will be running shows in Tulacingo starting this Friday. It sounds like they’re relying on internet word of mouth.

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12/11: Puebla, lineups

CMLL (MON) 12/10 Arena Puebla [hugo999]
1) King Jaguar & SWAT b Espiritu Maligno & Toro Bill Jr.
2) Black Terry, Blade, Siki Osama Jr. b Asturiano, Centella de Oro, the Tigre
3) Atomo, Mascarita Dorada, Último Dragón b Pequeño Black Warrior, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito
4) Dos Caras Jr., Heavy Metal, Rey Bucanero b Damián 666, Mr. Águila, Texano Jr.
5) Héctor Garza, Misterioso II, Terrible b LA Park, Negro Casas, Volador Jr.

Apparently there was a Toryumon Gym show on Sunday at Arena Mexico. Who knew? Looks like Atlantis defended the NWA LH title over Ultimo Dragon. Full results may turn up from Japanese sources later on.

Some lineups this week:

IWRG (THU) 12/13 Arena Nauclapan
1) Tortugillo Ninja II & Tortuguillo Ninja I vs Judas el Traidor & Nemesis IWRG
2) La Parkita, Pequeno Kato, Pequeno Volador vs Bracito de Plata, Espectrito I, Pentagoncito
3) Fantasma de la Ópera, Multifacetico, Ultraman Jr. vs Cerebro Negro, Oficial Fierro, Septiembre Negro II
4) Bogeman, Pantera, Veneno vs Kalimari, Masada, Yamamoto
5) Felino, Heavy Metal, Negro Casas vs Hijo del Cien Caras, Mascara Ano 2000 Jr., Pierroth

Okay, who’s Yamamoto and Kalimari? Naofumi Yamamoto? Yamato misspelled? I assume this is the usual Masada.

Interstingly, el Hijo del Santo is here on 12/20.

IWRG (SUN) 12/16 Arena Naucalpan
1) Halcon Salvaje vs Judas El Traidor
2) Gemelo Fantastico I & Gemelo Fantastico II vs Tortuguillo Ninja I & Tortuguillo Ninja II
3) Freelance, Golem, Multifacetico vs Capitan Muerte, Hijo de Mascara Ano 2000, Pumam King
4) Negro Navarro, Ultraman, Ultraman Jr. vs Kalimari, Masada, Yamamoto
5) Black Terry vs Fantasma de la Ópera [hair, IWRG IC WELTER]

Title change, I presume.

CMLL (SUN) 12/16 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Virgo vs Guero Loco
2) Estrella de Jalisco & Nube Roja vs Fraile de la Muerte & Impostor
3) La Sombra, Metal Blanco, Metalik vs Euforia, Malefico, Toxico
4) Blue Panther & Shocker vs Averno & Black Warrior
5) Brazo de Oro vs Emilio Charles Jr., Gallo, Mach I, Brazo de Platino, Ebola, Exterminador, Depredador (Guadalajara) [cage, hair, mask]


Guerreros del Ring #117 has bald Warrior and Bucanero

Noti AAA Blog posted photos of Guerra de Titanes.

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La Parka Jr. out 3 months, Cibernetico out 4 months

Arturo Rivera, in between talking much about the Teleton, mentions La Parka Jr. will be out three months and Cibernetico will be out four months.

Let’s recap
– Perro Aguayo is out at least two weeks (and, as Superluchas notes, is unlikely to return during the holidays)
– Mistico’s out for at least a month
– La Parka Jr., out
– Cibernetico, out

That’s the top 4 regular working tecnicos draws in Mexico, gone all at the same time for extended abscenes. (Perro’s a rudo, but close enough.) Who does that leave on top? Santo and Latin Lover aren’t working a regular schedule (at least yet.) Wagner and Park are just about to be regulars so I wouldn’t count them either. I guess Mesias may be a tecnico by the end of the week, but he’s not sticking around. Shocker? Konnan? Charly Manson? Chessman? Negro Casas? Octagon? Corelone? Elegido? Dos Jr.? Super Porky? Leono? Maybe not Leono.

This seems to be a bigger problem for AAA, even putting aside the length of absence. CMLL pushes a bunch of guys near the top, which hasn’t helped drawing of late but does allow them to deal with attrition better. AAA’s put everything into Cibernetico and Mesias. They weren’t the only guys pushed, but they were pushed so far and above everyone else that it’s a big drop off from there. La Parka Jr. was the only exception, thought that seemed more to be years of momentum and not anything particular they’ve done with him in the last 18 months.

CMLL will just run trios with the Guerreros and High Society and the high flying tecnicos and the other Perros and the old vets. They’ll draw 5,000 for Friday shows, under 2,000 for the other shows, shrug their shoulders and kill the time till they feel like ramping things up again. Pretty much the same thing they would’ve done with Perro and Mistico, actually.

AAA, I have no idea what they do. We all kinda figured it’d be a Konnan-centric winter into spring with Mesias in Puerto Rico, but he’s got to feud with someone. I guess we’ll just get Cibernetico talking and Charly and Chessman wrestling for him on the TV shows (which also isn’t much different than usual), but I don’t think there’s an easy fix for spot shows.

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