IWRG, CMLL, NJPW in Mexico,

IWRG (THU) 11/12 Arena Naucalpan [Al Filo del Ring]
1) Dinamic Black vs Comando Negro
2) Eragon & Star Boy b Epidemia & Heavy Boy
3) Bushi, Chico Che, Freelance b Avisman, Cerebro Negro, Gringo Loco
4) Arlequin Amarillo, Arlequin Negro, Arlequin Rojo b Jack, Trauma I, Trauma II
5) Hijo del Lizmark, Ultramán Jr., Zatura DQ Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro

Lizmark fouled 911, then faked his own foul to get the win. He’s a tecnico here, or at least that was the thought. Arlequin Negro replaced Arlequin Verde; no word on how that changed the betting line in Vegas.

Judging from the pictures on CMLL.com, Sunday’s special discounted Arena Mexico show did not draw at all. That shot is worse than most, but it does seem like CMLL’s reached the point where people aren’t even showing up for the cheap shows. Next Sunday Arena Mexico show is 12/13.

SuperLuchas says NJPW officals (president Naoki Sugabayashi, referee & booker Tiger Hattori – I didn’t know he was booker) are in Mexico this week to talk to CMLL about plans for 2010. According to the article, it’s CMLL who is looking for longer tours for it’s wrestlers, because flying a guy out and back for one show is expensive. Always figured it was the other way, where CMLL didn’t want to lose a Mistico for a week or two, but maybe it’s not been there call. The hope is there’d be much more cross pollination between the two companies next year, but they’ve clearly got to work on a few things.

AAA has a special sneak peak of the AAA movie today. It’s taking place at an unnamed mall in Mexico City, which makes it tough to actually go to. But they may have info today.

Al Filo del Ring posts a YouTube clip of Cibernetico singing with a band on a morning show. I think Cibernetico is a better wrestler than he is a singer.

Cesar looks at the CMLL comeback of the year and the CMLL concept of the year. I refuse to acknowledge end of the year awards in November!

Dark Angel and her TNA tag team partner Taylor Wilde will be participating in 2009 Freestyle Fitness contest.

Alex Koslov posted Alex Koslov’s golfing bit from AAA TV.

Diamo del Sur (via Zarco @ box y lucha) writes about retired wrestler Japaones Volador.

Ohtani’s Jacket checks out last week’s IWRG show. With a whole batch of lucha libre carrying Spanish language channels getting picked up many places around the country over this month, we’re about to see an increase in lucha libre ripped to YouTube and elsewhere. (If nothing else, I’ll probably end up doing it. Assuming Comcast gives me those channels Thursday.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

AAA #908 (10/17)

taped 09/26/09

Decnnis, El Elegido, Gronda II vs Gronda, Joe Lider, Nicho el Millionario in a hardcore cage match – a garbage match, with everything that means. If there was an explanation for Decnnis turning rudo, I missed it – though, I also missed the point of the clock bit until the end of the show, so someone feel free to explain this to me. I’ll be thrilled.
Extreme Tiger vs Sugi San, Jack Evans, Teddy Hart, Rocky Romero for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship in a ladder and tables match – better than I thought it’d be, but there were too many of this very similar matches in too short of a time for any of them to feel special.
Dr. Wagner Jr. vs El Mesías for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship (and part 2) – not the brainless match from Verano, but I didn’t really get into as much as TripleMania. It wasn’t as intense at the end. It’s funny – it’s not like they haven’t been pushing Mesias absurdly hard since he turned tecnico, but it’s only been since Wagner showed up that the crowd started to turn on him for it. AAA makes it more and more clear that Wagner is supposed to be a rudo, and the fans react by booing Mesias even more. Wagner feuding with the Legion makes sense, if only for getting the crowd to react a way they want and expect.

Another thing I’m completely lost on – did they set up this match by saying any WagnerManaicas getting involved would be fired? Did they changed and I missed it, or did they just ignore their own stips?

France, Guadalajara, Los Renegados?

CMLL EFM (SAT) 11/14 Beauvais, France [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Hiroka b Marcela
2) Misterioso II & Nitro b Sagrado & Stuka Jr.
3) Hijo del Fantasma & Valiente b Dragon Rojo Jr. & Sangre Azteca

France! Sangre Azteca says they drew 3,000, despite rain, a world cup qualifier for France, and a boycott. Apparently, other promoters had been spreading word that these would not actually be the wrestlers, but locals using their gear and pretending to be them. Not so much, but they canceled a preliminary match between French wrestlers just to make it clear it was an all Mexican show. Three match show seems short, but 3,000 sounds pretty good (more than they were drawing in Spain, IIRC.)

CMLL (SUN) 11/15 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring, MT, superluchas]
1) Nocturno b Templario
2) Relampago Azul b Siki Osama
3) Angelo & Astaroth b Ebola & Exterminador
4) Mascarita Dorada, Meteoro, Saturno DQ Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito
5) La Sombra, Strong Man, Volador Jr. b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
6) Egipcio L Gallo, León Blanco, Ráfaga, Neutrón, Samurai, Magnum, Infierno [cage, mask]

I think I have it in reverse corner of escape there. Final three were Gallo, Leon, and Egipico. Leon left his rival (at least from earlier this year) in the cage to escape. Egipico pinned Gallo for a three count…but his feet were on the ropes, and the commissioner ran in to order the restart. Gallo rallied for the win. Egipico, correctly predicted as the loser a couple weeks ago in the Box Y Lucha foro, is Luis Francisco Villareal, 33 years old, 14 years a wrestler, and a student of Gran Cochisse.

Mini rudos got DQed when Damian pulled Dorada’s mask. Rudos destroyed the tecnicos after the match.

Also, a random appearance of Puebla’s Siki Ozama.

Like perhaps you, I spent some time after last night’s posts trying to figure out – if not Vangelis, who else? There’s really just not that many unmasked rudos running around CMLL at the moment.

* Black Warrior already lost in this feud, and is hanging out in the Bermuda Triangle.
* Heavy Metal is barely around and seems not in anyone’s plans.
* Loco Max can’t be taken serious enough
* Negro Casas just lost his hair, and doesn’t fit with Texano & Terrible
* Satanico’s retired in Mexico City, and should be teaming with other people too

That’s pretty much the list, unless you want to start reaching down to the likes of Escorpion (was in a major hair match this time last year!) and Disturibio.

There’s actually one more real candidate – or at least was. This morning, Cesar’s got a post up saying Hijo de Lizmark was the original choice for a new trio with Texano & Terrible, called Los Renegados. Except, Negro Casas is said to have intervened and Hijo de Lizmark helped make his case by being his flaky self. Now, they may try to launch Los Renegados again, just with Vangelis in that spot. I think I’d rather have Vangelis than Hijo del Lizmark, actually.

Catch up of some Fuego en el Ring links I missed over the last week:
Brazo de Plata & Maximo talk about Porky’s return to GDL. Maximo says they’re going to Japan in March. I’d bet that’s the Dradtion group.
– Ultimo Guerrero explains why he never goes on these tours: Ultimo Guerrero is so good, it costs too much to book him. But he’s hoping the tours are successful, so they bring more money for the likes of him, Atlantis, Mistico, etc. UG hopes to have 12/10 off, to rest up for the big Laguna vs GDL match on 12/11 as part of the Guadalajara Lucha Libre Festival.

Cesar gives credit to Maximo for surpassing his own character yesterday.

AAA has Extreme Tiger and Ozz, signing autographs.

Cronicas y Leyenda looks back at Villano III vs Signo from 1977.

Box Y Lucha 2948 has La Parka Jr. ready to unmask Dr. Wagner. I believe that’ll be a double main event with Fuerza & Octagon.

Okumura beats Maximo, Octagon talks his futbol career

CMLL (SUN) 11/15 Arena Mexico [Cesar]
1) Astro Boy, Delta, Sensei b Puma King, Semental, Tiger Kid
2) Bam Bam, Bracito de Oro, Shockercito b Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
3) Terrible, Texano Jr., Vangelis b Máscara Dorada, Rouge, Toscano
4) Shigeo Okumura b Máximo [hair]
5) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, Shocker b Felino, Negro Casas, Ray Mendoza Jr.

Cornermen were Naito & Super Brazo. Maximo took the first, Okumura won the second. Okumura faked a low blow in the third, Tigre Hispano started to fall for it…but Maximo picked him up and kept wrestling. Maximo battles, still lost clean with a reverse DDT.

The Japanese all remain with their hair; back when this was announced, that was the reason why this seemed like the best possible chance for a Okumura win. Still, it’s a significant upset. Also, perhaps the tag match for the end of the year isn’t as set as we’d think – Okumura still has his hair, so they could make it a trios. CMLL prefers doing apuesta matches that are all hair or all mask, not mixing the two. All the sudden Vangelis being in Friday’s match may have some extra meaning, as crazy as the idea of Vangelis in a major main event sounds. I don’t think that’s the outcome here, but it’s not impossible either.

Okumura goes to 1-2 in apuesta matches, winning his first hair match (and the first one out of the cage – maybe that was his weakness.) Maximo loses his hair for the second time in 8 months (previously to Texano, in GDL.)

Octagon tells Reforma how he could’ve been on the America team. See, he was a fantastic soccer player when he was young, so he competed in a tryout camp when in 1976. Of the 1,500 people in the camp, only 5 were selected to move on to the academy, and Octagon was one of the five. However, his partners had always taught him the importance of education, so he decline the invitation to finish his school. After Octagon earned his law degree in 1982, he tried out again, but the young kids had passed him by. Like many a failed athlete, he became a wrestler instead. This is an incredible story, and I mean that in all the meanings of the word incredible.

You know, that story sounds actually completely plausible after I just suggested Vangelis in the main event of one of CMLL’s major shows. I take it all back!

Box Y Lucha looks back at Korean luchadors.

Cesar previews Tuesday and Friday‘s cards.

DJ Spectro looks back at Volador & Misterioso

SuperLuchas #340 has Mistico losing his title to Tiger Mask. Nice work on the cover to make it look like Mistico lost to a martinete, a horribly illegal move. Also, the odd IWRG/Mexican Trios angle continues with Fantasma talking about how the IWRG guys definitely can ask for a title shot against the CMLL guys. I’m totally intrigued not even exactly about where this is going, but the idea that it might be going anywhere at all.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

11/17-23 CMLL Lineups

CMLL (TUE) 11/17 Arena Mexico
1) Apolo Estrada Jr. & Corazón de Barrio vs Camorra & Zayco
2) Astro Boy, Delta, Trueno vs Bronco, Calígula, Méssala
3) Fabián el Gitano, Flash, Rouge vs Arkangel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Pólvora
4) Máximo, Metro, Toscano vs Euforia, Nosferatu, Vangelis
5) Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero vs Blue Panther, Máscara Dorada, Shocker

More Negro/Dorada. On Tuesday’s lineup, they spell his name “Rush.” On Sunday’s, it’s Rouge. Maybe there are two! I’m scared.

CMLL (FRI) 11/20 Arena Mexico
1) Guerrero Maya Jr. & Metálico vs Disturbio & Semental
2) Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata vs Puma King, Skándalo, Tiger Kid
3) Euforia vs Máscara Dorada [lightning]
4) Blue Panther, La Sombra, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Virus
5) Naito, Shigeo Okumura, Yujiro vs Terrible, Texano Jr., Vangelis
6) Místico, Shocker, Strong Man vs Averno, Felino, Negro Casas

Vangelis? With two Hijos de Avernos in the semimain and one in the main? Have they forgot Terrible & Texano are in the group? Possibly!

I think I just suggested Vangelis in the main event. Maybe I need to rethink this. Anyway, remember how they had to give Okumura the Gran Alternativa to justify him being in the semimains with No Limit – does this mean that didn’t work and Vangelis is on his level, or it didn’t have to happen since they can just book anyone in meaningless extra man in feud positions.

(At some point, I promise to you I will get over Okumura winning the Gran Alternativa. It just might take until the next one.)

There are good matches, but is there anything else going on here? Not so much. Judging from the comment on the news page, they may be wanting to get Mistico some Friday wins to make up for losing the IWGP title. You know what might work? Doing the Leyenda de Plata tournament.

CMLL (SUN) 11/22 Arena Mexico
1) Rayo Tapatío I & Rayo Tapatío II vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Mima Shimoda, Yezca, Zeuxis vs Dark Angel, Estrella Mágica, Star Fire
3) Dr. X, Hooligan, Loco Max vs Pegasso, Rey Cometa, Starman
4) Máscara Dorada, Máximo, Rouge vs Euforia, Pólvora, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, Místico vs Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Toughest match for Dark Angel – this one with 4 novatas, the one where she had 2 rudas on her team and was facing 3 rudas (what happened to the Zorras, anyway?), or any match with the Beautiful People?

No Brazo de Plata and Strong Man this week. They’re only two feuds away from being done for the year.

11/13 Arena Mexico results (No Limit vs Terrible/Texano?), links

CMLL (FRI) 11/13 Arena Mexico [SuperLuchas, Cesar, ESTO]
1) Escorpion & René Guajardo Jr. b Bengala & Súper Camaleón
2) Estrella Mágica, Lady Apache, Lluvia b Amapola, Mima Shimoda, Yezca
3) Ángel de Oro b Arkangel de la Muerte [lightning]
4) Ephesto, Mephisto, Virus b La Máscara, La Sombra, Máximo
5) Shigeo Okumura, Tetsuya Naito, Yujiro b Averno, Terrible, Texano Jr.
6) Héctor Garza, Místico, Strong Man b Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Clean tecnico win in the main event. Mistico got Ultimo Guerrero with La Mistica.

Ola Amarillo took the semimain in straight falls. Okumura got the pin on Averno in the first, Yujiro fouled Texano and got away with it for one pin in the seond fall, and Terrible got fouled and rolled by Naito while complaining about it. This led to Texano & Terrible challenging No Limit for a hair match, which sure sounds like the last major main event of the year. No date was put to it here, but figure it happening the first or second Friday on December.

Mima Shimoda fell to Lluvia in the women’s match for the deciding pinfall. On her blog, Mima says she’s got to visit the dentist after getting hurt in that match.

Nothing much of note elsewhere. Cesar says all the matches were good.

Hans Greeman has a collection of 20 full & partial 2001-2003 lucha libre posters, as an illustration of deisgn. For our purposes, it has a couple interesting lineups – do we have the wrong date for Brazo de Platino‘s mask loss?

Box Y Lucha looks back at Dizzy Gardenia Davis.

Cronicas y Leyendas writes about La Guerrilleras and Ultraman 2000.

No lineups.

Mexico Preview, Perros del Mal, AAA movie (but not that one), IWRG tournament, Vampiro

Preview of tonight’s Arena Mexico show: ESTO, Notimex, SuperLuchas.

Not a lot new; more Ultimo Guerrero vs Strong Man, more Hijo de Avernos/No Limit. There should be something new coming out of it – either one or both of those feuds should probably announce a date for their big matches.

Perros del Mal is back on TV. Sort of. They’ve announced on their facebook that they’ll be airing at different times in different cities; I assume this is just a second half of hour of the previous taping.

The list

Veracruz Canal 5: Saturday, 18:20
Monterrey Canal 34: Saturday, 17:30
Guadalajara Canal 4: Saturday, 18:00
Puebla Canal 3: Saturday (?), 18:20

No mention of Mexico City. They all seem to be regional Televisa stations. It’ll be neat for the people who get to see it, but I can’t believe it’ll have any affect on their business. (Website STILL not updated.) Oh well.

Will AAA’s plans reinvigorate the concept of lucha libre films? There’s talk in this article of putitng AAA stars in real movies, saying people don’t want to see luchadors face vampires or monsters, but social issues. Isn’t the big bad guy in the anime a giant evil robot, and most of the characters spend the movie traveling thru time? Shouldn’t someone have done the slightest bit of research to see WWE hasn’t made money from it’s film division? What is clear is, sometime a couple years ago, someone in AAA made a checklist of everything WWE tries, and is just crossing things off.

Anyway, the goal is to produce a new movie by the end of 2010. Adjusting that for AAA standards, that probably means mid of 2011. There’s absolutely no mention of the movie they’re currently working on and advertising, which is very odd.

IWRG will be running a torneo El Pirata Moreno sometime next month.

La Columnaria Blog has a story on Vampiro’s appearance on V3 television. Vampiro talked about his life, like having to wrestle 37 matches in one week at his peak. The recap goes straight from cutting off his braids to joining the Guardian Angels, so it must’ve been a short one.

The Color + Design Blog has color themes based on lucha libre.

La Parka Jr. visited a Make a Wish kid. AAA will be doing autograph signings

Ohtani’s Jacket enjoys the high quality and quantity of mat work in Blue Panther vs Atlantis from the Cops Victoria final in 1997.

LuchaWorld has the newest Slammin’ Stan Episode 19. I’m a little behind on listening, but I can not believe Kurt Brown has not heard the William Shatner album. I don’t know if Kurt would totally hate it or totally love it, but he would definitely have strong feelings about it.

AAA (FRI) 11/13 Centro Deportivo y de Convenciones, Minatitlan, Veracruz [Diario de Listmo]
1) Fabi Apache & Sexy Star vs Goddess & Tiffany
2) Jack Evans & Marco Corleone vs Electroshock & Teddy Hart
3) El Mesías & La Parka Jr. vs Cibernético & Silver King

Article about AAA with a CMLL picture – drink!

CMLL (MON) 11/16 Arena Puebla
1) Mr. Rafaga & Siki Ozama Jr. vs Black Tiger & Centella de Oro
2) Escorpion, Espiritu Maligno, Karisma vs Delta, Sensei, Trueno
3) Euforia, Pólvora, Virus vs Leono, Pegasso, Rey Cometa
4) Máscara Dorada, Shocker, Toscano vs Naito, Shigeo Okumura, Yujiro
5) Místico, Strong Man, Volador Jr. vs Averno, Terrible, Texano Jr.

Okumura’s first match after triumphantly beating Maximo. (Or losing to Maximo, maybe.)

CMLL (FRI) 11/20 Arena Neza [Mr. Reyes]
1) Brazo de Platino, Super Brazo, Turbo vs Black Killer, Black Thunder, Demonio Negro
2) Mascarita Dorada & Pequeño Olímpico vs Pequeño Damian 666 & Pequeño Warrior
3) Dark Angel & Lady Apache vs Amapola & Princesa Sujei
4) Felino, Negro Casas, Texano Jr. vs La Máscara, Místico, Volador Jr.

Interesting not only that they’re running here (which they flirt with every so often), but that they’re running a Friday night show here. Going to be busy night for some people.

thoughts on Konnan on F4D

(interview was subscription only @ f4online. go sign up.)

There really wasn’t a lot of news – some confirmation of what we’ve heard elsewhere (though often that’s because it was previously Konnan’s words coming out of other’s mouths) – just a lot of Konnan’s thoughts about things. It really wasn’t the MMA/Boxing discussion I thought – no pick for anything on Saturday!

Konnan also didn’t seem plugged into with the day by day for AAA; obviously he goes to tapings, he probably watches the TV, and he definitely has influence on the stylistic direction of the promotion, but there were bits where someone who’s more intimately involved with AAA might know stuff Konnan wasn’t sure of or had wrong. Konnan (and Bryan) were unsure if the Lucha Libre Premier show on Fox was airing in the US (it’s not), talked about all the shows having one match of minis, one match of women, one match of hardcore, one match of something else (may be the ideal, but doesn’t usually happen that way.)

There’s just three points of what he said I thought worth making

– Either’s a misunderstanding, a disconnect, a strawman argument being used, but I don’t think most people actually have a problem with AAA trying to be WWE like. They’ve been trying to be WWE like for over a decade, it’s really not a big change.

What people are actually complaining about is AAA coming off a like a third-rate WWE knockoff. There’s too much trying to repeat angles seen on TV elsewhere three years ago, except done half as well, because they’re not executed as well, or they’re forgotten about halfway thru (are Nicho & Lider still taking jobs?), or they’re completely missing the context that made them work in the first place (DX was a heel stable, people only started cheering them because they were so good at it.)

Why watch a third rate WWE when the actual one airs? People have been very clear on voting with their remotes on that one. It’s not even like a third rate WWE is an innovate idea. They have in the US too, they call it TNA, they also air “shoot” vignettes that turn out to be fake, and they also get about 40% of the audience who watches WWE. You’ve got to be something new, something different, nothing just something else.

There’s also the whole confusing thing about the new writers and Moody Jack taking over Creative from Doain. They might have different people at the wheel, but if you ignored the production, any episode I’ve seen this month could’ve aired any other time this year, or maybe in the last couple, whenever else Konnan and Roldan were feuding. There’s the same bad pacing, there’s same characters turned and dropped without an attempt an explanation (all that TV time on Gato/Pimpi and it just stops after the date), there’s the same guys in the spots. You could point to little touches, like the clocked being lifted from 24 for one episode, but the show’s laid out the same as it always was.

– There’s a lot of circular and specious reasoning that one could have fun with, if arguing with Konnan about near irrelevant things is what you wanted to accomplish with your life. Like

Konnan, while talking on a show solely listened to by people who read/write stuff about wrestling, noted early on how irrelevant the opinions of fans who go read/write stuff about wrestling on the internet. Later, he hyped the hipness and plugged-in news of the new AAA writers by mentioning how they’re all about the internet.

Konnan justified the amount of foreigners in AAA by saying they’re all over, and proved this by talking about how each guy was over. Either he got lost on his way to his point, or he just didn’t have one to say, and it was goofy.

– I hope, when the history of lucha libre gets written for all us who are too dumb to be fluent in Spanish, it’s not all based on Konnan’s view of history. Over the course of his appearances, Konnan’s description role in the formative years of AAA has seemed to grow. No one’s denying he had a big part in it, but it seems to get a little bigger every appearance, not too dissimilar from Hulk Hogan’s stories of WrestleMania III. This time, we heard the previously untold story of how Antonio Pena actually got cold feet about leaving CMLL and was going to go back, only Konnan and Octagon told him they were going to form a promotion without him, and Pena decided to with them after all.

That story may be true – a lot of smart people seem to trust what Konnan says, and they’d definitely know better than I. Still, a lot of the stuff he says sets off every BS alarm in my head. It may be entertaining, but that doens’t mean I believe him without someone else verifying. (And then there’s stuff I couldn’t find myself believing even it could be verified – the bit where he said he’d never used drugs before WCW was a reminder that wrestlers define “drugs” a whole lot different than the average person.)

Konnan may well have been the Forrest Gump of the last twenty years of lucha libre, running into one generational importance moment into another and having big impact along the way, but I wouldn’t have believed Gump’s story on it’s own either. I need a second viewpoint…but since Konnan is the only one who talks to the likes of pointless people on the internet, it may be all we have.

(Not to mention – Konnan knows a lot about the life of Konnan. Konnan may know/care little about what happened in Lucha Libre from the day WCW stopped Promo Azteca to the day he came back. Wasn’t at all surprised he didn’t know who Path Finder – he quite likely never actually seen Path Finder. Still, very funny.)


I posted over on F4 that I found the show entertaining, because it was. I wasn’t alone on that, but I’m thinking I may have been one of the few who found entertaining in a DDP-sort of fashion than the gospel.

Konnan would like everyone who hasn’t watched AAA in a while to give another shot. Let me know how that goes.

Mexico, GDL, Culican, links


CMLL (TUE) 11/10 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Apocalipsis & Ramstein b Principe & Trueno
2) Diamante, Leono, Tony Rivera b Bronco, Dr. X, René Guajardo Jr.
3) Flash, Rouge, Stuka Jr. b Loco Max, Nitro, Skándalo
4) Sagrado, Toscano, Valiente b Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Héctor Garza, Máscara Dorada, Shocker b Atlantis, Felino, Negro Casas

Dorada got Negro again, which sets up a Welterweight title match next week. Dorada will be carbo-loading all week to bulk up from Super Lightweight. I’m thinking some good pasta meals, maybe steak and potatoes, ice cream – got get on those 10 extra pounds from making weight on Sunday at Super Lightweight to making weight here at Welterweight. Or does Dorada just walk around at Welterweight and drop down to Super Light? Can Fuego or someone ask for me? That’d be great.

CMLL recap oddly mistakes Skandalo for Shocker. Who should be offended there? There’s also pictures on the news page of wrestler at the opening of Rosalio Vera’s photo exhibition, and Shocker looks 300 years old for some reason. You fill in the reason here.

CMLL (TUE) 11/10 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Thunder Boy & Virgo b Katana & Titanio
2) Acertijo & Ebola b Metatrón & Nube Roja
3) Drago & Mr. Trueno b Astaroth & Hierro
4) Metal Blanco, Metro, Palacio Negro b Ángel del Mal, Arkangel de la Muerte, Rey Trueno
5) Blue Panther, Brazo de Plata, Máximo b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

Billed as the first team up of Porky & Maximo since Porky’s been back. Nothing storyline wise.

AAA GLOBAL (SUN) 11/08 Parque Revolucion de Culican [Noroeste]
1) Monster Truck, Muralla Negra, Vampiro Infernal b Kempo Dragon, Psiclope, Relampago
2) Aerostar & Fabi Apache b Billy Boy & Sexy Star
3) Extreme Tiger b Joe Lider [AAA CRUISER]
4) Cibernético & El Elegido DQ Chessman & Zorro

Ciberentico turned on Elegido. So I guess he’s still a rudo?

LuchandoLibre posts more pictures of “Alebrije” helping building houses and is pretty sure it’s a new one.

Reforma via WagnerMania has an interview with Dr. Wagner, who complains the new place is too late the old place: they won’t let him take the Parka’s mask, management doesn’t promote him enough, blah blah blah.

AAA talks to Rocky Romero about his ROH trip. It’s Alex, Rocky, Teddy and Jack going. Rocky says he wants a singles match with Alex on the New York show, and that they’ll only be in the US for a few days before coming back.

El Mexicano has an interview with Blue Demon Jr., talking about his career and wrestling being ruined by television.

The Gladiatores have video interviews with Chico Che and Gringo Loco about last week’s hair match.

Record posts an interview with Jushin Liger, presumably from their magazine. Liger calls Mexico his second home and declares he’ll take the title back from Misico (so, this is clearly a while ago.)

A Masked Repbulic press release on SuperLuchas says they’ve hired Konnan, and will create Konnan shirts and gear. I’m sure they’ll be very popular in the comment section of this site.

Cronicas y Leyendas has part 3 of a series on Rey Misterio Jr.

R de Rudo has a bio of Halloween.

Kcidis posts a video of Santo and others in action from the movie “Santo y el Aguila Real”.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

AAA CANTU (MON) 11/16 Arena Cuatro Camino de Nuevo Laredo [RFC]
1) Angeluz & Super Boy vs Crazy Warrior & Mini Rio Bravo
2) Mari Apache & Street Boy vs Black Mamba & Tiffany
3) Babe Rap, Estrella Universal, Hombre Sin Miedo vs Joe Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana
4) Alan Stone, Joe Lider, Máscara Púrpura vs Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown

Mascara Purpura has been working around here for a while, but this placement adds to the rumor of him joining this promotion. Welcome to AAA, now lose to the Psycho Circus! What an odd trio.

Joe Bravo is either a typo or they’ve decided to just change Rio Bravo II’s name to something else. Something else weird, but something else.

11/14-15 Lucha Times


AAA-US: Try 2 – Marco/Chessman, Psycho Circus actually on TV, and Hermandad vs Air Force.

52MX: Tuareg vs Flash/Horus/Metro, plus Panther/Maximo/Valiente vs No Limit/Sangre Azteca

CMLL: just 90 minutes, so just top 3. Strong Man back against UG, Avernos vs Japan.

AAA-MEX: WagnerManiacs vs Mesias & Friends, Zorro reunited with the Legion, Mantra’s debut.

CMLL-FOX: This week, 2:30 pm on Saturdays. Looks to have the Armed Forces/Escorpion vs Diamante/Maya/Starman, plus Porky vs Avernos

AAA-FOX: Last week is a new episode, so this probably is a repeat, with the mixed tag and Wagner/Jack vs Alex/Teddy

C3: usual top 4, with Dorada vs Negro in trios.

Puebla: TVC Deportes doesn’t have the time for this show up yet. A match with Horus (getting hurt every time) and Fabian seems like an easy way to drop.