From the pre-TripleMania taping. As requested by Ayako #1 Fan Tim a while back.
AAA TV (FRI) 08/08 Centro de Convenciones, Ciudad de Madero [DR.COLOSO.IV @ LMdLL]
1) Argenis, Babe Rap, Billy Boy vs Rio Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana II
2) Mascarita Divina vs Mini Kenzo Suzuki [AAA MINI, torneo]
3) Super Fly vs el Ángel, Gato Eveready, Extreme Tiger, Aerostar, Ultimo Gladiador, Teddy Hart, Escoria, Jack Evans
4) Fabi Apache, Gran Apache, Mari Apache vs Cinthia Moreno, La Hechicera, Oriental
5) Brazo de Plata, El Alebrije, El Elegido vs ?, Decnnis, El Brazo
6) Alan Stone, La Parka Jr., Mascara Divina vs ?, Histeria, Psicosis
7) Chessman & Cibernetico vs Cuervo & Mesias and Kenzo Suzuki & Zorro
Projected Air Date (#849)
Things I clearly didn’t understand until now: this show is the start of The Road To Verano de Escandalo (and not the show itself), and Alas de Oro is coming much sooner than I thought. Not sure a month and a half of Chessman/Cibernetico teaming but not getting along is what I want, but I’d take it to get the high flyer tournament sooner.
There’s a bit of info on the ?s. The Viper is a “Junior of a Legend”. Tinieblas Jr. probably would already have that spot but said no. Hijo del Solitario, perhaps?
The ? in the other match is a yet-to-be-revealed Guapo. The post says he’s from Puerto Rico.
I take back what I said about the lack of new AAA wrestlers – Mini Kenzo! Also, if they’re sprinkling these out at one a week until Verano de Escandalo, that probably means we have four tapings to go.
Being that low really does suck for Billy Boy.
I’m testing a couple of things today, while I’m out and unable to fix them. And probably exposing the number of people who actually read this website. All fine ideas. New Posts are below this one!
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Better late than never. I don’t when tomorrow’s update will turn up, but it won’t be at least until afternoon. Some other posts will go up before then, if I get to them tonight.
CMLL VIP (SUN) 08/03 Gimnasio Nuevo Leon [RFC]
1) Diana La Cazadora & Justiciera vs Perla Negra & Princesa Sujei
2) Super Muneco, Super Pinocho, Super Raton vs Coco Amarillo, Coco Blanco, Tramposo
3) Angel Blanco Jr., Antifaz del Norte, Averno vs Hijo de Trueno, Sagrado, Volador Jr.
I believe this is a benefit show for Caifan, but I may be confused
As listed above, add Antifaz to the AAA departure list. Again, it’s another veteran midlevel guy thinking he’d be better of booking his own schedule.
I think I’ve done a poor job of explaining my opinion on this going back to The List, so let me try it again: I think it’s a significant issue for AAA to be suffering this midcard drain, because they’re losing a lot of experienced guys who can put together good matches (Antifaz may not fit in there) and not really replacing them. At the same time, the vast majority of these guys going shouldn’t have an effect on attendance in the short turn. Of all who’ve left, I’d only count Intocable as a draw (Alan is taking his spot, but I don’t think he’s as over with that audience yet), and Mr. Niebla as an asset (mostly due to the effort AAA put in to rebuild him from scratch, and being a name wrestler willing to drop his mask.)
indy (THU) 07/24 Arena Olimpico Laguna de Gomez Palacio [el Siglo de Torreon]
1) Autentico & Escriba Jr. vs Chakor & Jerry Brown
2) Dragoncito & Payasito vs Pentagoncito & Ricky Estrada
3) Dorado Jr., Piloto Negro, Tuno Negro vs Escriba, Sangre Negra, V57
4) Conflictus, Piloto Suicida, Virtual X vs Dr. Cianuro, Espanto V, Mr. Guerrero
Conflictus is billed as a star from CMLL, but hasn’t been working under that name in Mexico City as far as I can tell. A wrestler by that name worked in GDL in ’06, maybe that’s it.
El Hijo del Santo made the back cover of today’s Ovaciones. Saturday’s the 66th anniversary of El Santo’s debut, so they talked to his son. A lot of it’s about the Lucha Libre London/Europe tour, and not much you haven’t read already. There’s a bit about his CMB championship – he’s planning his first defense in October in Cancun (no opponent mentioned – I’m holding out for Floyd Mayweather) and he’ll be at the CMB convention in China in November. They’re talking about more weight divisions (Santo is welterweight champ) being unrevealed soon. I found it interesting it was Santo’s WWA title that he and Demon traded on the tour, since that title had been put on the shelf since the CMB one was unrevealed. Perhaps the CMB actually does somewhat control Santo’s belt, so he had to use another one to do the title program?
(Reforma via Jazzo) Metalik is out a week after suffering a knee injury in Puebla. Sounds like they feared it was much worse.
(MT) La Mascara crowed about his team’s win Tuesday, while Hijo del Fantasma challenged any trio to take a shot at their belts.
After his success in the Gran Alternativa, Ultimo Guerrero says Dragon Rojo Jr. could become a member of the Guerreros del Atlantida. They’ll keep on watching him and seeing how he does, but UG figures Dragon is on the way to becoming a star. I think UG just likes the idea of having a Dragon on his side for once. Naturally, Dragon Rojo is thrilled with his prospects.
SuperLuchas is teasing a Lucha Libre Fan Fest this September in Mexico City.
The Southtown Star writes about GALLI‘s shows in Joliet and Chicago Heights, IL this weekend. (No mention of the Berwyn show?) I think I may just be sleeping in this weekend.
A new restaurant in Philadelhia called Distrito is themed after the DF, including 600 lucha libre masks.
(grumpy section ahead!)
CMLL got around to posting Wagner/Perro today. Dollar late/short. Let me point you to Reyes del Aire 2005 instead.
411 Mania posted this article on the AAA shows in LA this weekend. I don’t got all night, so let me just grab four of the dumb parts.
“AAA holds their first US Tour in over a decade this week”
They ran Texas last year. They taped TV in Houston in 2000.
“AAA used to regularly hold shows in the LA Sports Arena back when stars like Rey Mysterio Jr., Juvenstud Guerrera, Eddie Guerrero, Psicosis, and Konnan were big stars in Mexico and prior to ECW and subsequently WCW’s raping of their talent roster.”
Way to skip over Promo Azteca
“assumed Super Fly was either the aging WWF legend or the super concentrated date rape drug I bought in Tijuana….I mean the…antihistamine I bought in TJ…legally….over the counter…to give that one Sorority girl who kept saying, “oh my GOD, I am SOOOOO drunk”. I’m sure she felt just fine in the morning. I’m also not familiar with Dark Cuervo unless his tag team partner is Coke.”
Translation: I have no idea what I’m talking about, couldn’t be bothered to find out who these people are, and will now be acting like I know what I’m talking about for the next eight paragraphs. Yay internet writing in 2008.
“But you know, maybe I’m wrong, maybe the fact that the information I have says to look on Ticketmaster for tickets and that they don’t even show the event on-line means that everything in the entire arena is sold out. then again,”
Took me about a minute to find the ticket link. By the way, you still can buy 4 tickets together in Row 21 as of Thursday night.
That’s just four. There’s probably four more better if I broke it down, but reading the article again angers me greatly. Such idoicy. To bookend this post with me trying to make previously alluded to things clear: if I’m already writing all of this stuff about lucha libre for zero apparent return, I’m probably really available to write about it for your site too. If not me, there’s other smart people you ought to be using. But whatever you do, writing clueless posts about lucha libre is about as bad as not writing at all. And not writing about lucha libre isn’t pretty pathetic in itself – it’s defies all reason sites like PWTorch write gobs about shows which draw around 200 and are only eventually seen by a few thousand, while completely ignoring promotions where 16,500 people turning out can cause a 20+ plus comment debate about it being a disappointment. Stop living in your bubbles.
In the meantime, I gotta figure out how to block 411mania from my Google News feed.
AAA TV (THU) 07/31 Gimnasio Agustin Millan, Toluca, Estado de Mexico [luchalibreaaa]
1) Mini Charly Manson vs Jerrito Estrada [AAA MINI, torneo]
2) Estrellita & Sexy Star vs La Diabólica & La Hechicera
3) Cinthia Moreno & Oriental vs Gran Apache & Mari Apache
4) el Ángel, Gato Eveready, Super Porky vs Killer Clown, Psycho Clown, Zombie Clown
5) Crazy Boy & Ultimo Gladiador vs Jack Evans & Teddy Hart
6) El Elegido, Gronda II, La Parka Jr. vs Electro Shock, Head Hunter I, Kenzo Suzuki
2008 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#848)
There’s gotta be another match to be announced, right? No Hell Brothers, No Sect, lots of midcarders missing. Matches 2-4 all feel like a normal second match, the semimain feels like it should be third on the card, and the main looks like a semimian. You can either look at this as AAA pulling a CMLL Sunday Coliseo lineup (where a highlight match is kept quiet until they run the taping before – Chessman & Ciber are teaming in Queretaro, after all) or just a plain lame card.
Is Kenzo Suzuki the best wrestler in the main event? I mean, that’s a crazy theory, but it’s definitely arguable. I guess the idea here is they’re hyping on the new look for Gronda, but I don’t know who still cares about him. (Not AAA, or they would’ve kept booking him.)
In fact, I’d just make Teddy & Jack vs Crazy & Ultimo the main event. The other match isn’t going to be hurt by being a semimain and Teddy and Jack are hot enough that it may make all four guys seem like a bigger deal. But then, I would’ve put the tag team titles on the team that’s been treated like the best tag team (instead of the team that either loses or doesn’t appear on TV) so they’d be on the line here, and AAA’s not following that line of thinking either.
Porky’s losing streak goes on. At least for one day, Gato Eveready is actually now doing the best of the ex-Barrios. A women’s tag and a mixed tag is a stretch (as is using La Hechicera at all.) Oriental and Cinthia face the mixed tag champs yet again in a non-title match, and one would hope they win one of these.
Unlike all the other recent tapings, only one mini tournament match announced here. This would leave AAA with 5 wrestlers in the second round, which makes no sense at all. Mascarita Divina seems to be missing from this tournament – maybe they can’t find a rudo mini to face him? Also looks like Mini Charly Manson’s tecnico turn may be meant to stick, though Mini Chessman’s seems to be a rudo.
Three CMLL Minis matches should make air this week. (Actually four, but no one’s getting both Fox Sports.) Plus, the AAA minis turn up in on Mexico’s AAA airing. Meanwhile, the only women who turn up are in one mixed tag. I dunno what it means.
AAA-US: post TripleMania – Ozz vs Chessman, Legion vs tecnicos, Morenos return
CAN52: Mini Violencia/Warrior/Pierroth vs Dorado/Dragon/Shocker + sorta-High Society vs sorta-Pesta Negra
FSE-US: Bam Bam/Dorado/Olimpico vs Mini FdT
CMLL: listed at 1:45, but who knows if they’ll get in more than the Gran Prix and Mistico/Perro
AAA-MEX: #1 contenders match, and the AAAs Mini tournament starts
FSE-MEX: Minis match, Alex/Shadow/Volador vs Warrior/Olimpico/Sangre
Cadena3: Trios champs in action
LyC: Hator/Herodea/Tineiblas vs Aventuerero/Romo/Tigre
CMLL (MON) 07/21 Arena Puebla [El Sol de Puebla]
1) Cerebro Negro, Espiritu Maligno, Negro Navarro b Blue Center, the Tiger, Toro Bill
2) Asturiano, Flash, Metalik b Euforia, Nosferatu, Skandalo
3) Policeman b Centella de Oro [hair]
4) Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara b Heavy Metal, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas [CMLL TRIOS]
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., La Sombra, Shocker DQ el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Terrible, Texano
This was the 55th anniversary show for the building. jcmorales @ box y lucha says there were numerous injuries on the show. (Oddly enough, Metalik isn’t mentioned as one, though he didn’t work the next day.) Perro yanked Wagner’s mask for that DQ. This is the first time the trios belts have been successfully defended twice in a row since 2004, and the first time they’ve been successfully defended twice in the same month since 1997. Policeman is unstoppable.
CMLL (TUE) 07/22 Arena Mexico [CMLL, SoloLuchas, Avellaneda @ box y lucha]
1) Sensei & Trueno b Semental & Zayco
2) Mascarita Dorada, Pequeño Olímpico, Último Dragoncito b Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Halloween, Pequeño Warrior
3) Arkangel de la Muerte, Euforia, Nosferatu b Axel, Máximo, Stuka Jr.
4) Grey Shadow, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Olímpico, Rey Bucanero, Sangre Azteca
5) Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara b Heavy Metal, Misterioso II, Mr. Niebla
Trios champs are unstoppable (at least by Pesta Negra.) Bucanero yanked Volador’s mask to escape a loss in the semifinal. Stuka replaced Metalik in the tercera, and Arkangel seemed messed up after Maximo powerbombed him for the win. Looks like Pequeno Warrior completely missed catching Ultimo Dragoncito on his Asai moonsault, and Dragoncito was stretched out. Mini Halloween and Trueno also were hurt in their matches. Update: Trueno is in the hospital, suffering from a skull fracture. Youch.
The second match for Verano de Escandalo has been announced – Alas de Oro #2. Participants:
– Super Fly
– Jack Evans
– Teddy Hart
– Ultimo Gladiador
– Gato Eveready
– Xtreme Tiger (2007 winner)
Yes. It is disappointing we only have 2 Air Force guys left from last year’s 5, but I think there’s other guys who can pick up for them.
AAA also says Gronda is coming back with a new look at the 07/31 taping Auditorio Agustin Millan in Toluca. (Which also annouonced they’re taping on that day.) Their RSS feeds still don’t work.
SuperLuchas: “Will Rey Misterio return to AAA if WWE doesn’t give him the contract he wants?”
thecubsfan: “No.” Surely he’ll be back in AAA, but not while WWE is willing to give him a long contract, and not for anything close to full time (maybe special appearances at major shows, but not the weekly grind.)
(Reforma via Jazzo) Negro Casas likes the idea of facing Mistico in a hair vs mask match. Metal/Negro vs Mistico/Garza would work for him too. Negro would like to face pretty much any good fighter. Damian 666 is specifically not counted as a good fighter.
Dr. Wagner Jr. visited a childern’s hospital.
The radio ads for AAA’s California shows are on the promoter’s website.
On their page for the event, AAA lists the minis tournament matches as Octagoncito vs Mini Chessman and Mini Dizzy vs Mascarita de la Muerte.
In Ovaciones, there’s a small note about an association of luchadors who are forming a group to promote occasional events called APLEXMEX. I am skeptical of any group with a eight letter abbrevation, and of any with this roster: Universo 2000, Cien Caras, Mascara Ano 2000, Hijo de Cien Caras, Cien Caras Jr., Mascara Ano 2000 Jr., Enrique Vera Sr., Enrique Vera Jr., Super Astro, Mogur, Emilio Charles Jr., Audaz, Solar, Ultraman, Shu el Guerrero
Emilio isn’t retired! Who knew.
In ESTO, Mistico expands his plans beyond simply learning Kung Fu during this downtime in China. He’s also going to break Mil Mascaras’ record for interntational touring. Mistico’s planing on going to Europe in October, is looking to go thte US sometime soon, and wants CMLL to run a World Tour. He’s also proud of being “the first luchador to ever go to the Olympics”. I’m thinking there’s a slight chance a luchador might have made the trip to 1968 Olympics.
Jorge Martinez, the local CMLL promoter in Mazatlan, is retiring. They say it’s a health issue while also hinting at some business issue. Marcelo Lopez will take over for him, with the first show on 09/20. Lopez had wrestled as Furia Blanca (maybe this one?, worked as a referee and promoter. The local AAA promoter attended the press conference and it sounds like they’re working together to spread out their events.
Colorado will is using luchadors as part of it’s Get Ready To Buckle Up campaign. The pro-seat buckling luchador looks a bit familiar. I like how they worked the shoulder strap into the outfit.
Maximo is excited to go to Spain.
Diario de Cuyo talks to one of the announcers of Argentina’s 100% Lucha, in their third year of this incarnation.
Ohtani’s Jacket writes about the Damiancito el Guerrero cibernetico.
CMLL (SUN) 07/20 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Fraile de la Muerte & Valentin Mayo b Idolo & Thunder Boy
2) Metatron & Samurai b Exterminador & Rafaga
3) Guero Loco & Máscara Mágica b Gallo & Tony Rivera
4) Axel & Rayman b Cien Caras Jr. & Toscano
5) Atlantis, LA Park, Rey Bucanero b Ephesto, Mephisto, Terrible
Tony Rivera and Guero Loco (who won in straight falls) are building towards a hair match.
CMLL (TUE) 07/22 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Egipcio b Impostor
2) Depredador (Guadalajara) b Virgo
3) Palacio Negro b Ebola
4) Malefico b Magnum
5) Cien Caras Jr. & Infierno b Casanova & Tony Rivera
6) Toscano & Último Guerrero b Alex Koslov & Marco Corelone
7) Atlantis b Shocker
Atlantis got Shocker clean with the Atlantida. Ultimo pinned Marco, with Toscano helping UG get his feet on the middle rope for leverage. Cien Caras snuck in a foul on Tony Rivera.
CMLL (SUN) 07/27 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Idol vs Fraile de la Muerte
2) Metal Blanco, Oro II, Samurai vs Depredador, Extermiandor, Rafaga
3) Casanova, La Máscara, La Sombra vs Cien Caras, Euforia, Sangre Azteca
4) Tony Rivera vs Güero Loco [hair]
5) Blue Panther & Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Negro Casas & Último Guerrero
CMLL (TUE) 07/29 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Carlo Roggi vs Azazel
2) Palacio Negro vs Ebola
3) ? & Palacio Negro vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
4) El Gallo, Leon Blanco, Tony Rivera vs Cien Caras, Máscara Mágica, Toxico
5) Rayman & Sagrado vs Misterioso II & Mr. Niebla
6) Alex Koslov & Místico vs Black Warrior & Rey Bucanero
The AC Tag Title match was pretty good. It wasn’t MOTYC, but for where these guys are in their careers, they ought to be pretty happy with it. It did fall apart at the end of the third fall with Flash’s injury (that dive sequence didn’t look right, and the announcers brushing over the non-elimination when that was a plot point in the fall before stuck out), but they did a lot better with the time given than a lot of other CMLL showcase matches.
Don’t have much time today, so I’m zooming thru this and hoping I didn’t miss anything big.
IWRG (SUN) 07/20 Arena Naucalpan [Sololuchas via KrisZ]
1) Destello & Eragon b Comando Gama & Judas el Traidor
2) Crazy Star & Enigmatica b Fugitiva & Tormenta
3) Black Terry, Oficial 911, Oficial Fierro b Coco Verde, Cocochips, Cocolores
4) Negro Navarro, Septiembre el Terrorista, Veneno b Centauro, Cinclon Gonzalez, Super Astro
5) Multifacético, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Super Calo b El Hijo del Solitario, Hijo del Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000
Rayo and Solitario teased a never-going-to-happen mask match.
Semirelated: Hablando de Catch posted photos from inside Arena Naucalpan.
Some additional notes from the AAA taping, from their own results:
– Zorro wanted to wrestle, but could not provide proof he was cleared to wrestle, so Roldan banned him.
– Super Porky is sad because he’s lost so much lately. (He’s lost 3 matches in a row. Eh.)
– No mention of how many wins the Psycho Circus is at now, but they’re still undefeated.
Segments were 5 minutes each, which sounds unreasonable long. It may have just been for the first few eliminations. Match went:
Start: Mesias and La Parka
Black Abyss entered
Black Abyss went out by La Parka
Alan Stone entered
Joe Lider entered
Ozz went out by La Parka
Zorro made his entrance, was not allowed to wrestle, and Konnan hit the ring
Konnan threw out everyone but Mesais, but this didn’t count for some reason and so everyone came back in
Kenzo and Head Hunter entered together
Alan and Lider got Head Hunter out
Mesais got Alan out
Kenzo “german suplexed Joe Lider out of the ring”
Parka got Kenzo
Mesias yanked Parka’s mask enroute to throwing him out
Chessman threw out Mesias to win the match.
AAA also reposted it’s calender section, including lineups with all the events. There’s probably something interesting in here if I had time to look – later? (The RSS links? STILL DO NOT WORK.)
This week’s Figure Four Weekly says Friday’s Arena Mexico show – I don’t know if you remember, but it’s the one with Perro and Wagner in the main event – drew a disappointing 14,500. Who do you want to blame? Or should you just wait until this upcoming Friday’s attendance and get some more evidence?
Don’t worry, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. says he’s coming back to Arena Mexico in October. I remember him giving out return dates before which didn’t happen, so wait to panic. It would figure to have some bring back the legends show in the new couple of months. Rayo did miss the Lucha Libre London/Spain tour, which may or may not be connected.
Box Y Lucha #2880 has Perro pinning Wagner, with the headline asking if he’ll join the Perros. There’s articles talking about a couple past Gran Alternativa winners – Misterioso II talks about being a success (need to change the wiki!*), Tigre Blanco is accused of not being one.
*- No, don’t really
Cesar @ Box Y Luchas says Shocker may be turning rudo again.
SuperLuchas also has a post on Lucha Libre in Peru that I need to take a closer look at when I have time. If someone ever wanted an easy, singluar way to contribute to the luchawiki, adding information about lucha libre in other Latin American counties whenever it pops up here would work. It’s in the Things I Mean To Do But Never Do pile.
Ovaciones isn’t working for me today. I think it’s them, unless someone’s been downgrading Adobe Flash on my computers without telling me.