Porky returns in GDL, Gran Davis Jr., Bucanero

CMLL (TUE) 10/20 Arena Mexico [ESTO]
5) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto DQ Naito, Ray Mendoza Jr., Yujiro

More tomorrow, I hope.

CMLL (TUE) 10/20 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Acertijo & Ebola b El Divino & Saturno
2) Ángel del Mal & Drago b Hierro & Palacio Negro
3) Lady Apache & Marcela b Hiroka & Princesa Blanca
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Máximo b Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Black Warrior, Terrible, Texano Jr. b Brazo de Plata, Héctor Garza, Shocker

Porky is back. And on the losing side. Texano got in a foul on Garza.

Semimain ended with Sangre and Mascara in the ring, and you can put the rest together. Saturno took himself out on a dive in the opener, leaving his partner to go 1 on 2.

Wrestler Gran Davis Jr. was murdered this past week. He’s been wrestling in Laguna recently (including in a couple hair matches last month, as well as working as butcher, and is the son of the famous referee. Gran Davis Jr., who also wrestled as Tor-Ver, was really Osvaldo Patino Cabrera, 34 years old. He was one of three men who’s bodies were found dumped in a box outside of a school. Osvaldo and another man where last thought to be going to a bar, riding in the third man’s taxi. The news reports say there were signs of torture.

Rey Bucanero will not be back until 2010. Rey tore his ACL in his left knee hurt back in May, and was expected to be out over six months, so this is a slight push back. Bucanero explains the doctor will probably clear him to return in December, but it’ll take a while to get back in ring shape, so he may not make it back in 2009. Rey wants another match with Ephesto so they can go all the way to the outcome. In the mean time, he’s promoting another nightclub show on 10/30 in Tecamac.

Is this AAA’s twitter account? Or someone else pretending? Or will this be already clear by the time I posted it? Need to update the links to add on

Bolivian Wrestling has photos of South American champion Javier Lee.

R De Rudo has photos of a Matematico exhibition at Blue Demon Jr.’s gallery. That mask at the end with 6s for eyes and 8s for noses and mouths is the best.

The governor of Colima honored wrestler TNT, at a presentation of a documentary about TNT’s life.

Hijo del Santo spoke about ocean conservation at the California Science Cetner yesterday. There’s video at the link.

El Sol de Tulancingo profiles retired wrestler Sombra del Peru.

Box Y Lucha #2944 has Black Warrior bald.

Luchas 2000 #492 has Warrior bald and Dragoncito hurt. Dragoncito hands, arms, and face all look burnt or bruised – he looks in rough shape. There’s also an interview with Cassandro where he accuses TNA of being homophobic, and Leobrado Magadan’s column where he rips Dos Caras Jr. and WWE for having him wrestle unmasked in FCW.

CMLL (MON) 10/26 Arena Puebla
1) Karisma & Policeman vs Asturiano & Centella de Oro
2) Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia vs Bracito de Oro, Eléctrico, Shockercito
3) Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca vs Máximo, Metro, Rouge
4) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto vs Blue Panther, Máscara Dorada, Valiente
5) Ray Mendoza Jr., Terrible, Texano Jr. vs La Sombra, Strong Man, Volador Jr.

CMLL’s started to refer Electrico as “Pequeno Electrico” the last week. Nothing like being your own mini.

10/23 AAA/LLP Lineup (Mexico City)

AAA (FRI) 10/23 Teatro Condesa, DF []luchalibreaaa]
1) Jennifer Blake, Octagóncito, Rocky Romero vs Decnnis, Mini Abismo Negro, Sexy Star
2) Fabi Apache & Pimpinela Escarlata vs Polvo de Esterllas & Rain
3) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Jack Evans vs Alex Koslov & Teddy Hart
4) Cibernético, Electroshock, Kenzo Suzuki vs El Elegido, El Mesías, Marco Corleone

Lucha Libre Premier #2
MEX: 11/08?, 11/22?
US: uh, never?

This looks like the next Lucha Libre Premier taping. It’s theatre instead of a normal buidling (though not one I can seem to find on Google.) It’s four matches, the same as the last FSE taping and unlike the normal shows.

AAA hasn’t announced a additional Saturday taping, so maybe they’re going to do tapings more often? Or maybe they’ll figure that out as they go. Since every new show gets reaired the following week, this could last them a month.

Jennifer Blake on the tecnico side of the opener makes no real sense – that should be Goddess or Cinthia or Mari – but I’d guess they’ve decided that if they’re paying for her to be there, they need to use her. Wagner being a tecnico on occasioan is not new, but Cibernetico still appears to be on the rudo side.

3rd match could be pretty fun.

Puebla results, Porky in GDL

CMLL (MON) 10/19 Arena Puebla [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Black Tiger & Lestat b Fuerza Chicana & Siki Osama
2) Delta, Diamante, Horus b Disturbio, Durango Kid, Escorpion
3) Amapola, La Nazi, Princesa Sujei b Lluvia, Marcela, Star Fire
4) La Sombra, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
5) Shocker, Strong Man, Toscano b Atlantis, Karisma, Último Guerrero

Karissma, not seen here since May, replaced a MIA Mr. Niebla. Strong Man took out UG with a powerbomb again. Volador, feuding with Averno on Fridays, pinned Mephisto.

SuperLuchas notes CMLL’s altered lineup for tonight’s Guadalajara lineup.

CMLL (TUE) 10/20 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Saturno vs Acertijo & Ebola
2) Hierro & Palacio Negro vs Ángel del Mal & Drago
3) Lady Apache & Marcela vs Hiroka & Princesa Blanca
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Máximo vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Brazo de Plata, Héctor Garza, Shocker vs Black Warrior, Terrible, Texano Jr.

The big news is Super Porky has been added to the main event. It was originally a tag match, and Black Warrior is added to the rudo side. SuperLuchas notes, with the addition of Porky, Super Porky and soon Val Venis, CMLL has bulked up it’s heavyweight division (in the strangest, most eclectic way possible.) I would guess Brazo de Plata doesn’t work that IWRG and Perros date. This seems like a late change, because ESTO has an article up promoting Sunday’s show as his debut.

Besides the great stuff with Dragon Rojo, Misterioso, Stuka, and Fantsama in France and Monaco, Ras de Lona mentioned Blanca suffered a waist (maybe tailbone) injury in her title match with Lady Apache. It sounded like she was going to be out a while, so I’m surprised to see her listed here.

Ovaciones also notes IWRG will be reopening up a restaurant on the outside of Arena Naucalpan. It’ll be renamed in honor of Adolofo Moreno, who passed away last year.

Fuego en el Ring has an interview with Dragon Rojo, who has nothing against the people of Guadalajara, but wants them to know the wrestlers from La Laguna are clearly better. He unmasked Mictlan and will do bad things to Mascara Dorada if the lightweight champ crosses him. Angel de Oro is less interesting.

An artist blog has illustrations of Kid Salvaje, a lucha libre spin on Where The Wild Things Are. There’s no publisher, but the art looks great.

Al Filo del Ring writes about what tickets give the rights to the fans to do and what they do not.

Kcidis has defeated Black Warrior and a cheery Monito.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update

10/19 AAA TV Results (Leon)

AAA TV (MON) 10/19 Domo de la Feria de Leon [luchalibreaaa]
1) Mascarita Divina, Mini Charly Manson, Octagoncito b Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Histeria, Mini Psicosis
2) Jennifer Blake & Rain b Fabi Apache & Mari Apache
3) Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario b Decnnis & Extreme Tiger
4) Marco Corleone, Pimpinela Escarlata, Súper Fly b Rió Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana
5) Cibernético, Kenzo Suzuki, Zorro b El Mesías, Jack Evans, La Parka Jr.
6) Dr. Wagner Jr., Electroshock, Silver King, Último Gladiador DQ Alex Koslov, Chessman, Konnan, Teddy Hart

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#911)
US: 11/01
Mexico: 11/14

A minimal of notable events here.

Mini Charly picked up the win on Mini Psicosis in the minis match.

With no Nikki Roxx, the women’s match was changed to a tag. Rudas won, but Goddess turned up to attack them post match.

Guapito is using a walker, after the Herminadad killed him in the cage match. Decnnis vowed revenge, and got killed. So did Tiger.

4th match was just a match. AAA recaps are high on Pimpi this weekend.

Mesias, who was too hurt to wrestle on Saturday, is noted as being in perfect physical condition in the semimain. Hmmm. Cibernetico worked as a rudo and was booed, but his team still won when Zorro caned Parka and Hijo de Tirantes allowed it. Did Zorro only get a win so they could point out how Hijo de Tirantes is rudo again? I know that’s a vastly cynical way of looking at the series of events, but I think I shall go with it.

Chessman isn’t definitely stated as being in the Legion, just being allied with them here. Main event turns into a hardcore brawl, and Konnan gets his team DQed by fouling Wagner and pulling his mask.

After the match, Konnan cut a promo on Cibernetico. His point this time seems to be “Cibernetico is a star, because Mexicans don’t know who real stars are (me)”. Cibernetico, now cheered by the crowd, came out to brawl, but security kept them separated. You don’t want people fighting on a lucha libre show. Actually, I’m not sure you want those two fighting at all, but I don’t think we can avoid that.

AAA ends the recap saying the non-fight left the audience wondering what would happen if “the two biggest icons in the history of AAA” were to fight. I can’t decide who should feel most dissed by that hype – Parka? Octagon? Misterio? Maybe they should go with the two biggest rudos in the history of AAA, because at least Abismo isn’t around to be offended.

It doesn’t get said enough, but it is pretty great to get same day (even live!) taping results. I’d hope they’d mention the taping on Friday. If they even have a taping on Friday; Ovaciones today says it’s October 31st, which makes me wonder about the 10/30 taping. Confused.

Tuesday shows back to Coliseo, Guadalajara, Coacalco, AULL, lineups

DJ Spectro says CMLL wil be moving Tuesday shows back to Arena Coliseo. I haven’t seen this mentioned elsewhere,

Tiger Blanco/CMLL
Tiger Blanco/CMLL

but this would be surprising. CMLL has seemed to move away from running shows at Arena Coliseo, despite horrible attendance for most Tuesday shows. The only reasons I could ever come up with for running Arena Mexico is CMLL either makes more money with the same attendance in Arena Mexico than in Coliseo (because there rarely was a crowd that would’ve sold out Coliseo), or that Cadena3 specifically requested Arena Mexico for TV reasons. Whatever the reason, something had to change. This does not seem like it’s in effect for tomorrow’s show, and I don’t see any indication of a change on CMLL.com

You know, that paragraph up there assumes they’re running shows at Arena Colieso and not Arena Mexico. More I think about it, less safe I feel about that assumption. It’d be really insane (and inane) but…

LuchaLibreUSA now lists the Dallas show as 12/03, instead of Thursday.

CMLL (SUN) 10/18 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Cometa b Principe Dylan
2) Relampago Azul & Skaxy b El Divino & Virgo
3) Egipcio & Leon Blanco b Rafaga & Samurai [Relevos Increíbles]
4) Metal Blanco & Neutrón CO Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
5) Blue Panther & La Máscara b Misterioso II & Sangre Azteca
6) Atlantis, Dragon Rojo Jr., Felino b Héctor Garza, Máscara Dorada, Shocker

Dragon Rojo Jr. snuck off Dorada’s mask at the end of the third fall, and pinned him for the win. Semifinal was clean for the tecnicos.

Egipcio and Leon Blanco worked together in the third match, so they won. After the match, Infierno ran in to attack Samurai, and Magnum got involved as well.

PROLLM (SUN) 10/18 Coliseo Coacalco [EdR]
1) Mr. Surf DRAW Cyrus
2) Jeque b Stigma, Eterno, Daga, Betos Boy, Lobo Metalico, Wotam, Forastero, Niebla Negra I, Niebla Negra II [cibernetico]
3) Ephesto, Euforia, Virus b Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata, Diamante
4) Mr. Niebla & Shigeo Okumura b Ephesto & Justiciero
5) Magnifico b Judas el Traidor [hair]

12th Anniversary show. Of course Magnifico (and his Bret Hart gear???) is winning on this show. Also, 300% more CMLL wrestlers than usual.

AULL? (SAT) 10/17 Arena Lopez Mateos [EdR, DJ Spectro]
1) Black Crazy, Rey, Spider Boy b Doom, Red Devil, Tormenta
2) Pendulo, Platino, Solar Jr. b Belcebu, Trauma I, Trauma II
3) Black Terry & Solar I DRAW Negro Navarro & Rambo
4) Hijo de Rey Misterio, Huracan Ramirez, Olímpico b Pierko el Boricua, Speulcro, X-Fly
5) Pierroth II L Canek Jr., Jaque Mate Jr., Fishman Jr., El Hijo De Huracan Ramirez, Septiembre el Terrorista, Gran Markus Jr., Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Hijo del Cien Caras [mask, cage]

Pierroth II is Isacc Pedro Gonzalez Nunez, 38 years old, from Sacramento, California. He’s had this gimmick for 5 years and, of course, is not related to Pierroth. He’s also changing his name to Anticristo – or what it was before he had the mask. Canek Jr. gets credit for the win.

AAA (SUN) 10/11 Poliforum Juan Gabriel, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua [KrisZ
1) Mini Histeria, Polvo de Esterllas, Sexy Star b Fabi Apache, Mascarita Sagrada 2007, Pimpinela Escarlata
2) Murder Clown, Psycho Clown , Zombie Clown b El Elegido, Extreme Tiger, Laredo Kid
3) Dr. Wagner Jr. b El Mesías, Cibernético [AAA HEAVY]

KrisZ has this as an ultra rare defense of this title off TV.

AULL (SUN) 10/18 Arena Lopez Mateos [EdR]
1) Dragon Chino & Super Halcon Jr. b Mr. Flama & Rey Kristal
2) Silver Cat I & Silver Cat II b Iron Love & Super Panda [AULL TAG]
3) Robin Maravilla, Sadico, Yakuza b Angel o Demonio, Leon Rojo, Ovett [AULL TRIOS]
4) Sepulturero I b Kung Fu Jr. [AULL HEAVY]

Night of champions, though no lightweight title defense. I thought there was supposed to be a main event trios, but Estrella del Ring says the Heavyweight title match was the main event.

SuperLuchas notes the Volador/Averno lightning match, with a 10 minute time limit, went 10:59.

Negro Casas talked to ESTO about his hair loss; he’s not considering it a defeat, because it was one of his best matches and was so tough.

Was there a reason for Sahori disappearing that I missed? She hasn’t been on a lineup since July.

There’s a cool lucha t-shirt for sale at that link.


CMLL (TUE) 10/20 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Meteoro & Saturno vs Ebola & Katana
2) Angelo & Magnum vs Acertijo & Drago
3) Hierro & Neutrón vs Ángel del Mal & Infierno
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Máximo vs Euforia, Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
5) Héctor Garza & Shocker vs Terrible & Texano Jr.

Terrible & Texano team up a lot here but never seem to defend their tag titles.

IWRG (THU) 10/22 Arena Naucalpan
1) Comando Negro vs Halcon 2000
2) Exodia vs La Rata
3) Bushi & Pendulo vs El Hijo del Diablo & Gringo Loco
4) Brazo de Plata, Chico Che, Suicida vs Black Terry, Pirata Morgan, Tóxico
5) Flor Metalica vs Atsuko Emoto [hair]

Random hair match. More of interest is Brazo de Plata working here, when he’s supposed to be working CMLL on Sunday. He probably needs to work, but working both isn’t usually allowed. Well, at least he’s not scheduled to work with the Perros, that’d be trouble.

CMLL (SUN) 10/25 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Idolo & Metatrón vs Nube Roja & Thunder Boy
2) Palacio Negro & Saturno vs Ángel del Mal & Exterminador
3) Asesino Negro & Leon Blanco vs Egipcio & Infierno
4) Dark Angel, Lady Apache, Lluvia vs Hiroka, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sujei
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Místico, Strong Man vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Exterminador is back for the first time in 4 months. Tercera is a rudo/rudo battle.

IWRG (SUN) 10/25 Arena Naucalpan
1) Dinamic Black vs Guizmo
2) Diva Salvaje & Miss Gaviota vs Carta Brava Jr. & Hijo del Signo
3) Chico Che & Hombre Bala Jr. vs Avisman & Fantasma de la Ópera
4) Flor Metalica, Josseline, La Diabólica vs Atsuko Emoto, Kyoko Kimura, Tomoko Nakagawa
5) Oficial 911 & Trauma I vs Black Terry & Negro Navarro and Sangre Chicana & Suicida and Oficial Fierro & Trauma II [Relevos Increíbles]

Four way random partners main event. Wonder where they’re going with it.

Perros (FRI) 10/30 Arena Morelos
1) Elvis Porky, LA Park, Super Parka vs Damián 666, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Halloween

HMMMMM. By tomorrow, there’ll be a Santo/Porky lineup.

10/18 Mexico Results, Perros del Mal

I’m going to save most things for tomorrow, but the two necessary things:

CMLL (SUN) 10/18 Arena Mexico [Cesar, DJ Spectro]
1) Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Universo 2000 b Bam Bam, Máscara Dorada, Pequeño Olímpico
2) Heavy Metal, Naito, Terrible b Metro, Toscano, Volador Jr.
3) Strong Man DQ Último Guerrero
4) Tigre Blanco L Pólvora, Ángel de Oro, Arkangel de la Muerte, Flash, Skándalo, Rey Cometa, Dr. X, Pegasso, Tiger Kid, Hooligan, Astro Boy [cage, mask]

The cage match is listed in reverse order of escape (so Astro Boy was out first, Hooligan, etc.) When it got down to the final for, Arkangel helped Polvora, then snuck out on him. Angel de Oro did something similar to Tigre Blanco. Blanco/Polvora had a four minute match, with Polvora hitting (I think) the wheelbarrow powerbomb for the win.

Tigre Blanco is Sergio Guzman Silva, 35 years, 15 years a wrestler, from Mexico City. He hid his face from the cameras and hurried to the back; I’d guess that means someone specific was supposed to get the first shot. A quick search on Google doesn’t turn up anything interesting for that name. As this was a Sunday show, and all the mags (and magazine shows) go to print on Saturday, it might be a bit before we get the picture and What’s Next interview.

Edit: SuperLuchas has Tiger Blanco unmasked.

Strong Man won in straight falls. He won the first fall clean, then hit his Strong Bomb in the second. Ultimo Guerrero threw his mask at him in desperation and Strong Man caught it, but referee Pompin saw UG throwing the mask and called for the correct disqualification. The story is Strong Man might not have gotten the pinfall win, but he otherwise dominated him. They’re getting behind him. Cesar says this was Strong Man’s best match since coming in.

DJ Spectro is low on this show, saying it came in under 2 hours and there was very little good wrestling. He also wonders if Heavy Metal was drunk in his match. I’d question the sobriety of who booked the match; why not get behind Volador 1/8th as much as they’ve gotten behind Strong Man, and have him win a couple matches leading up his big matches on Friday? It’s as if whomever is booking Sunday and Tuesday go out of their way to even out the results from the main show.

DJ Spectro estimates the crowd at 4,000, and that’s a pretty believable number given the crowd. Now, this same show in Arena Coliseo, with the 12 in the cage instead in trios matches, would’ve drawn 1/3rd to 1/4th that number, so maybe someone can claim it as a success. It certainly doesn’t look that way when they’re playing to 25% full buildings, while the WWE was around 95% for their shows here.

The other important news is the Perros del Mal show aired, with no commercials, at the announced 10:30 time. Alan mentions in the comments that it was 5th (Cassandro) and 8th (main) matches from the 10/11 taping, with teases for the 6th and 7th next week. No commercials means they’re buying the time, and there’s no a good history of buying TV time working out; their only shot is they impress Televisa with a strong ratings number for this spot. That’s going to be tough, given the promotion they did for the show.

Stuff which will have more detail tomorrow
– Pierroth II lost his mask in the big “2nd Generation” mask match; he’s the ex-Anticristo, of no relation to Pierroth
– IWRG has booked a completely pointless Flor Metalica vs one of the Joshi girls mask match for Thursday. I don’t think I’m running a poll.

12 Mask Match Preview

No point in doing a person by person why/why not preview. There’s zero story reason why one person should be the winner or one person should be the loser. It’s not even especially clear why these 12 men were picked for the cage match – why Flash and not Stuka? why Puma King and not Tiger Kid? why Tigre Blanco and not Metalico? why every masked Tuareg member but not Nitro? That last would’ve actually been an interesting idea – after months and months of Tuareg trios taking on tecnico trios, a cage match as the big blow off would’ve made a lot of sense. Unfortunately, this match isn’t about making sense – it’s about running competition against a show that had already almost sold out by the time they announced this match – so you really can’t expect much sense in the finish either. We can only base it on the reasons outside the ring, and we know very little of that.

Tiger Blanco is the obvious loser. Since his head injury (in 2004? – if only I remembered to write things on the wiki), he’s had long stretches of being out of the ring, and has openly talked about not being able to continue. Most of the wrestlers from his ‘generation’ have either made it to a significant level by now or are being phased out, and he’s definitely in the later group. In a year or two, Tigre Blanco might not be a big enough name to be in these sort of cage matches (he’s arguable the lowest ranked guy in the match) – this isn’t the best way to end a stage of your career, but it might be the best spot Tigre Blanco gets.

[poll id=”47″]However, CMLL has been pretty consistent in NOT having the most likely guy losing these cage matches. The last 4 cage match losers in Arena Mexico were Shockercito, Toscano, Heavy Metal, and Hijo del Lizmark, and none of those guys stuck out as the most likely going in. If they continue on with that booking, who else is possible?

The Tuareg: For what their roles are (experienced rudos helping younger tecnicos thru early matches), they really don’t have to be masked. If you take the long view, and there’s no reason you actually should here, it’d be better for them to be unmasked, so they could lose their hair every so often to a guy on the way up. Better than just having Loco Max do it.

Individually, it doesn’t work out as well. Hard to believe Dr. X was going to lose his mask in a match he didn’t even know was going to happen. Arkangel does enough stuff with Ultimo Dragon where being a masked rudo luchador probably means more than average for him. Skandalo is too young and probably on his way to more important things. Of the four in the match, Hooligan seems most likely to lose – he’s not around as much as the others – but there’s the unfortunate business of this not being his first mask.

Flash, Angel de Oro, Pesgaso, and Rey Cometa all make much more sense as masked. With Astro Boy, you could make the same case of being passed by as with Tigre Blanco – enough to make him the second most likely tecnico, but doesn’t seem like a strong bet with who he’s related to. Likewise, Tiger Kid losing his mask wouldn’t make any sense, unless we immediately found out he was actually Negro Casas Jr. or something like that.

Which leaves, unless I’ve skipped someone here, Polvora. He would actually make some sense. Polvora’s lost his old tag partner and could use an image overhaul. Unlike Tigre Blanco, Polvora losing could be the start of something new. I’m picking him, but I wouldn’t actually wager on it.

Picking a winner is even more random. If they were consistent from show day to show day, Angel de Oro would be the strong pick, but they’ve been doing the opposite; Volador’s feud with Ultimo Guerrero on Sundays is completely forgotten for Volador’s feud with Averno on Friday’s. This is pick a name out of the hat reasoning, so I’ll pick…Astro Boy. Hey, he’s got a movie out, it’s a good time.

A short note about Arena Mexico closing time

Mostly because I think we have this wrong. Or confused.

Yujiro & Warrior finished at 11:16
Ultimo Guerrero & Jushin Liger ended at 11:42
Mistico & Negro ended at 11:30, and they were still chatting in the ring as late as 11:36
Naito beat Toscano at 11:30
Villano V name was revealed at 11:14

Got these times off my twitter updates, so they’re probably a minute or two late. And I had to convert hourts a little bit. But the takeaway points are

– Yujiro and Warrior going short was a choice by someone, not a result of the rest of the show going long
– you could probably say the same about many other show main events
– I’m totally lost as to when the cut off time is (and so I may still be wrong about the first two points)

10/17 AAA TV Results (Cuernavaca)

AAA TV (SAT) 10/17 Auditoio Teopanzolco, Cuernavaca [luchalibreaaa]
1) Billy Boy & Sexy Star b El Brazo & La Hechicera
2) Cinthia Moreno, Fabi Apache, Mari Apache b Goddess, Jennifer Blake, Rain
3) Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario b Laredo Kid & Súper Fly
4) Marco Corleone DQ Chessman
5) El Elegido, La Parka Jr., Pimpinela Escarlata b Cuervo, Escoria, Ozz
6) Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown b Dr. Wagner Jr., Electroshock, Silver King

<A href=”http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/?page_id=4156″>2009 AAA TV Chart</a>
Projected Air Date (#910)
Mexico: 10/25
US: 11/07

2009 AAA TV Chart
Projected Air Date (#910)
Mexico: 10/25
US: 11/07

The episode of TV where they do all the angles for the next cycle. They got it out of the way quick.

To begin the show, Konnan offered to return Dorian – if Roldan reinstated Alex Koslov. I don’t know about you, but if that was my son, that would’ve taken .00001 seconds to decide. Of course, it goes on for the show.

Billy Boy & Sexi Star managed to win the battle of the couples.

No Nikki Roxx – Goddess was introduced as a member of the Legion instead. Fabi pinned Goddess clean with a German suplex, Blake and Rain turned on her, and the tecnicas made the save. This explains why she’s a tecnica, at least.

3rd match wasn’t on the lineup. Hijo de Tirantes is back to being a rudo. Roldan is supposed to fire him if he was a rudo again, but I bet this leads to Hijo de Tirantes joining the Legion again. Air Force got destroyed, no sense of any Super Fly rudo turn, except if he wants to be angry about taking the pin when Laredo was too busy being dead.

Right here, in turned into open mic night. First, it was Cibernetico responding to Konnan. Cibernetico brought up Konnan leaving in 1996 and trying to destroy the company, but Cibernetico stayed because he had principles, the same principles that caused him to leave when Konnan got in charge last year, and the same principles the people of Mexico have. Yea, he’s a tecnico again.

Next, Mesias appeared in street clothes, saying he was too hurt from the last taping to wrestle today. If you recall, that was the taping where he was hurt, told not to wrestle, and wrestled anyway. So either he got smarter in the last week (doubtful) or plans changed for the next match.

Instead of Mesias/Marco vs Chessman/?, they just did Marco vs Chessman with no mention of a mystery man. At the end of the match, a masked man – looking very similar to the masked man who kidnapped Dorian – fouled Marco. Unfortunately for him, the masked man did not have a sound exit strategy, and the AAA tecnicos cut him off before he could run away. The masked man was unmasked as Alex Koslov. Konnan appeared, threatening violence to Dorain if Alex wasn’t freed. Dorian is the 2009 version of Antonio Pena’s urn.

For reasons unclear to me, Ozz made friends with the tecnicos after taking the loss. Cuervo and Scoria got ticked and walked out on him. Of all the shows where the Dark Family were on the shows doing absolutely nothing of note, the show with 500 things is the time to do this bit?

Crowd was behing the WagnerManiacs in the main event. Silver King was left alone in the ring with one of the Clowns, but was distracted by Konnan, Rain and Blake, then beat for the win. Legion interference sets up Monday’s main event, but Clowns going with the Legion might actually be useful.

Mexico results, Box Y Lucha

CMLL (FRI) 10/16 Arena Mexico [box y lucha, SuperLuchas, ESTO]
1) Molotov & Starman b Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Amapola, Hiroka, Princesa Sujei b Estrella Mágica, Lluvia, Marcela
3) Hijo del Fantasma, Stuka Jr., Valiente b Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
4) Volador Jr. b Averno [lightning]
5) Místico, Shocker, Strong Man DQ Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
6) Yujiro b Black Warrior [hair]

Main event went under 7 minutes (the 11:15 time limit in action)

Box Y Lucha posted a lot of articles on Friday, including interviews with Dr. Wagner Jr., Tirantes, Psicosis II, Xtreme Tiger, Sexi Star, Hiroka, CMLL trainee Acuarius, CMLL trainee Insolito, and Chipas area champ Rey Persa. Plus, Villano III talks about learning to stick up wounds.

Newspaper rankings for AAA wrestlers have Sexi Star 1st, evil Zorro 5th, and good Zorro 10th.

DJ Spectro has a good post about the different types of referees.


CMLL (TUE) 10/20 Arena Mexico
1) Apolo Estrada Jr. & Sensei vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Dr. X, Hooligan, Nitro vs Astro Boy, Guerrero Maya Jr., Starman
3) Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito vs Bracito de Oro, Eléctrico, Mascarita Dorada
4) La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Toscano vs Felino, Heavy Metal, Virus
5) Naito, Ray Mendoza Jr., Yujiro vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

The segunda has 3 of the 12. I’ve been leaning towards Hooligan as my pick for loser, but would he really just show up 2 days later without a mask? (Yea, maybe.) Minis match has a good spot though not the best lineup. They haven’t done No Limit/V5 vs Avernos before – usually they’re together. Hmmm.

CMLL (FRI) 10/23 Arena Mexico
1) Yezca & Zeuxis vs Estrella Mágica & Lluvia
2) Pequeño Damian 666 vs Bam Bam [lightning]
3) Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca vs Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara, Valiente
4) Naito, Shigeo Okumura, Yujiro vs Black Warrior, Blue Panther, Héctor Garza
5) Averno vs Volador Jr. [NWA MIDDLE]
6) Místico, Shocker, Strong Man vs Atlantis, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

How do they determine which middleweight title it is? Coin flip? Does Averno just reach into a dark closet, and it’s whatever title he pulls out.

Lots of rematches – 3, 4 (maybe it’ll be Garza/Panther? vs No Limit – building new stars!!), 5, 6, and they’ve done the lightning match before. That opener is also exciting for all the wrong reasons.

CMLL (SUN) 10/25 Arena Mexico
1) Inquisidor & Semental vs Bengala & Trueno
2) Amapola, La Nazi, La Seductora vs Estrella Mágica, Marcela, Zeuxis
3) Leono, Starman, Tony Rivera vs Arkangel de la Muerte, Loco Max, Skándalo
4) Máximo, Sagrado, Valiente vs Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura
5) Brazo de Plata, Héctor Garza, Shocker vs Naito, Ray Mendoza Jr., Yujiro

And, he’s back. There was some talk that AAA had taken ownership of “Brazo de Plata” (and “Super Porky”), and CMLL was staying away from all ex-AAA guys who didn’t own their names. Doesn’t appear to be the case, but it’s something worth watching.

Poder Mexica should not be succesfully teaming with Okumura.

We can add Arkangel and Skandalo to those working the next week, which leaves:

  • Flash
  • Tiger Kid
  • Ángel de Oro
  • Pegasso
  • Tigre Blanco
  • Rey Cometa
  • Pólvora

None of those 7 are scheduled for Puebla. We don’t have a Tuesday lineup for GDL yet.

Actual News Item: CMLL.com confirms that Misterioso II is in and Black Warrior is out of Poder Mexica. No mention of where this leaves the Mexican National Trios Titles.