Octagon wins again, Niebla Roja, LWC teams begin to be announced

proof of Octagon

CMLL (MON) 09/11/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, CultIcon]
1) Centella Roja, Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer b Ares, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Disturbio, Espanto Jr., King Jaguar b Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Tigre Rojo Jr.LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
King Jaguar replaced Canelo Casas (who’s missed his last two matches running)
3) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Ángel de Oro, Kráneo, Valiente b Cavernario, Felino, Johnny Idol[Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Johnny Idol replaced Diamante Azul on 09/07.
5) Carístico, Octagón, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Octagon submitted Negro Casas this week.

Octagon is not into falling down, which makes it tough to be a professional luchador. I assume him winning means that whoever’s making the decisions here has a lot of independence from CMLL; they could use that power in such better ways. This was not a good show.

Keyra and LA Park won new titles in Irapuato’s Generacion XX1.

This week’s +LuchaTV podcast has Niebla Roja as the guest, and they ask him if he’s hurt. He says he’s away from the ring due to personal issues, though he is rehabbing his neck and knee. The neck is from a Diamante Azul suplex, the knee is an older issue, but he believes he’ll be 100% for the Annviersario show. SuperLuchas, in a column pointing out problems with the Anniversary show, says Niebla Roja’s injury is actually an ankle injury.

Today’s CMLL card is juggled around a bit due to Diamante Azul not being around. (As far as CMLL is saying, he’ll still be back on Friday.) The big match hasn’t changed: Gallito & Microman face Chamuel & Mije in the tercera. The top half of the show all did change, with people being moved up to replace Diamante Azul. The main is Draogn Lee, Stuka, and Valiente against Cavernario, Negro Casas and Shocker. CMLL seemed to be setting up a tag title match with Casas & Shocker against Stuka & Azul but, with Shocker missing last week and Azul this week, who knows.

Drone, Johnny Idol and Titan face Rey Bucanero, Terrible and Vangellys, who hasn’t been successful in leaving this group. Esfinge, Fuego and Pegasso face Luciferno, Tigre and Virus. Comandante, Seductora, and Metalica take on Vaquerita, Sanely and Marcela (replacing Skadi.) The opener has rookies Retro, Sangre Imperial, Templario and Yago, with the rudos way ahead of the tecnicos. It’ll air on YouTube starting at 7:30, and the micros match should be up around 8:10.

AAA is having a press conference today for Heroes Inmortales. The latest lineup they announced changed – they’re running a Rey Wagner vs Johnny Mundo title match – but it might change a hundred more times. I can’t imagine Wagner is losing if they’re doing that match, and so Mundo going home empty handed seems more likely than keeping all the titles. Really doesn’t matter until the show starts.

Wednesday’s The Crash show in San Luis Potosi will include a Red Cross drive to help those affected by the earthquake this past Thursday.

NJPWWorld will air the 09/01 Gran Prix today (or maybe already has, time zones are tough.)

AAA Japan started announcing the Lucha World Cup teams. The big news is these are teams of two, not three as in past years. That explains a lot in how they’re getting it done: less people and partnering with NOAH

1: Mexico (AAA): TBA
2: Mexico (LU): TBA
3: USA (NOAH): Cody Hall & Quiet Storm
4: USA (LU): TBA
5: Japan (NOAH): Taiji Ishimori & HI69
6: International (IGF): TBA
7: International (LU): TBA
8: UK/New Zealand (FREE?): TBA

If Cody Hall & Quiet Storm are the US representatives, they’re just grabbing whoever’s already there for the non-Mexico/LU spots. They’ve announced Mil Muertes, Psycho Clown, King Cuerno, Drago, Sexy Star and Vampiro for the tour. Not sure if Vampiro is wrestling, not sure if Sexy Star will end up going. Cuerno & Mil might the Mexico LU team (Mil is from Mexico, Mesias is not) and Psycho & Drago as the AAA team.

Stukita is off to Japan.

HIjo del Fantasma faces EC3 this week on Impact for their Grand Championship. This title is decided in three 3 minute rounds, with 3 judges deciding the winner if no one wins in the time. Hector Guerrero will be one of the judges as an AAA representative (though he doesn’t seem to have any relationship with AAA other than they needed someone in that spot.)

MedioTiempo has an obit for Sultan Gargola and a list of the 30 masks lost at an Anniversary show. There’s a graphic going around showing all 30, but I’m not sure who came up with it and don’t want to give credit to the wrong person. All but the last few would be part of the mural in Arena Mexico.

SuperLuchas also has an obit for Sultan Gargola.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and the latest Lucha Report.

CultIcon starts writing about this history of CMLL.

Lucha Underground put up a trailer for it’s 100th episode.


CMLL (SUN) 09/17/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
2) Pegasso, Starman, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Puma, Raziel
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Dragón Lee, Flip Gordon, Rey Cometa vs Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
5) Carístico, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Rush

Both the unmasked people are scheduled to be back the next day. I assume This is the last day for Kojima too but he just seems to be hanging around.

No Saturday Coliseo card (since they’re running Arena Mexico), and the Sunday Guadalajara card is the Legends Inmortales show announced a while back. CMLL hasn’t mentioned either of these things on their website, which is normal.

new lucha videos for the weekend of September 8th, 2017

It’s not here, but there’s a couple matches from the GALLI show up on the YouTube channel too.

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-09-09
taped 2017-09-01 @ Arena México – Mega/YouTube
1) Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Euforia, Mephisto, Rush, Último Guerrero, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Kenny King, Kojima, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin, Sam Adonis in a CMLL Gran Prix Tournament match

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-09-09
taped 2017-09-05 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara  – Mega/YouTube
1) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Silueta vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Metálica
2) Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
3) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Kojima, Último Guerrero

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-09-12
taped 2017-09-10 @ Arena Naucalpan – Mega/YouTube
1) Chico Che vs LeoToxinTackleSúper Brazo Jr.
2) Aramis, Bombero Infernal, Emperador Azteca vs Gallo Frances, Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera
3) Herodes Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 Jr. vs Black Warrior & Warrior Jr.
4) Imposible, Villano III Jr., Villano V Jr. vs Eterno, Súper Mega, Trauma II

The Crash: 2017-06-02 

Fenix gets some help on this splash

Recapped: 09/09/2017

All matches were taped at Auditorio de Tijuana on June 2, 2017


Arkángel Divino © vs Látigo [The Crash JUNIOR]
(9:28, good, via

Felt like a CMLL lightning match of a few years ago, with a bunch of dives and some in ring action to space them out. (Usually didn’t have a C4 on the floor.) Latigo did a good job of working with Arkangel up until the finish, where the headscissors did not work at all. At least they kept the armbar on a while to make it look like that was the point. Arkangel doesn’t stick out as much without the super move he can only do with Último Maldito, but he did have a few other impressive spots and this was steadier than most singles matches they’d put out there for an opener.

Latigo’s corner tornillo looked nice.
a rare dive to this side of the ring

Oráculo vs Black Danger vs Jonathan vs Black Boy vs Último Maldito
(6:57, good, via

Usual Crash multman, where it has moments of looking really looking state of the art and moments where everything looks is missing. This time, it was the first few moments where everything seemed like it was clicking and things broke down a bit as they tired out. It didn’t go as long as other ones of these might, but they did mange to fit some good highlights. It’s hard to totally keep track of who is who given he video quality, but Jonathan is easy to ID because he’s the one with no mask and he did well, and I think it was Black Danger had a cool dive.

organized chaos to start the match

Flamita © vs Rey Horus [The Crash CRUISER]
(13:03, good, via

Flamita & Rey Horus worked the right match for the occasion. It’s rare to see rudo Flamita, but he did a great job with it and the crowd wanted to root for Horuz in this match when he finally made his comeback. They meshed pretty well together on their big moves. Thirteen minutes for a midcard singles match on The Crash show is an appropriate amount of time, but here it felt like way too soon. This was a borderline grade for me; they were getting to a great match but seemed cut short before they got there.

this is a simple senton done well and felt rudo-ish
Horuz over the post

Jack Evans & Zorro vs Bestia 666 & Hijo de Pirata Morgan
(9:00, good, via  

There was nothing extraordinary in this one, but it still was a solid indie lucha libre tag match. Bestia had a few misses and Pirata was probably not supposed to land really hard on his shoulder, but most things seem like they went like they planned. Bestia and Jack have good chemistry, though the crowd might not be behind who they want them to behind. Zorro seems a lot more interesting when you go months without seeing him: the cane shot flurry stands out as really good when you’re not numb to seeing it every other week. His dive was a surprise too.

Pirata lived
Jack twisting 450

Penta Zero M & The King vs Black Terry & Skayde
(15:02, great, via

What Happened: Máximo & La Mascara debut after the match to attack Penta and Fenix.

There were four men in the semifinal, all did pretty well, but Black Terry really shined. He took absurd amount of hard shots for a person of any age, and made his survival more convincing every moment. GIFs don’t really capture how hard those slaps and chops look, and he fought back harder. Fenix & Penta were obviously into working with the legends and gave them a lot, but Skayde & Terry felt like they belonged in there. The pace didn’t need to slow down to accommodate them, Fenix and Penta didn’t reduce what they did or tone done how they did it. The only thing was missing would’ve been a home crowd to root them on longer. (Terry/Penta in a singles match in Naucalpan would have crazy reactions.) It seemed like people were confused going into the finish and Terry might have been part of it, but it didn’t really matter much to me because his tough guy performance the rest of the match was so astounding to watch. The Mascara/Maximo bit was obviously the priority here but it was too bad it denied the a moment to give those guys an ovation before sending them off. This match had some flaws but is definitely worth a watch.

I’m not sure Skayde helped
Black Terry reclaims his move

Daga, Garza Jr., Rey Mysterio 619 vs Damián 666, Mr. Águila, Nicho el Millionario
(13:49, good, via
What Happened: Máximo, La Mascara and a masked X-Fly attack after the match, but X-Fly turns on Mascara and Máximo as do the rudos. After a standoff with the invaders, everyone ends up in the ring to honor Nicho for his final show before going in for surgery.

Review: The main event was more a legends tribute match than an interesting match on it’s own, a chance to do a little bit of Rey Mysterio/Nicho now because who knows where Rey will be by the time Nicho’s back in the ring. It was a slow paced match because Nicho’s not the only guy on his side not moving well, and it was mostly worthwhile for the nostalgia. Rey looked like the best guy in the match.

Mr. Aguila being weird
Daga & Garza do lame looking topes, Rey is much more cool

IWRG, GALLImania, Crash TV pilot?, Puebla

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 09/10/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), The Gladiatores]
1) Power Bull b Fly Tiger
2) Demonio Infernal & Látigo b Lunatic Xtreme & Skanda
straight falls
3) Leo b Chico CheToxinTackleSúper Brazo Jr.
Leo replaced Rafy and won.
4) Gallo Frances, Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera b Aramis, Bombero Infernal, Emperador Azteca
Hijo del Pantera will finally face Emperador Azteca for his title next week.
5) Herodes Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Black Warrior & Warrior Jr.
6) Eterno, Súper Mega, Trauma II b Imposible, Villano III Jr., Villano V Jr.
Super Mega wants a title shot at Imposible.

A lot matches to suddenly set up title matches because they suddenly decided they were doing the four title match show next week. Warriors might be tag champs because Black Terry will be in Japan then (and Negro Navarro isn’t around to lose the trios titles.)

GALLI (SUN) 09/10/2017 Arena GALLI, Villa Park, Illinois [thecubsfan]
1) Elliot Paul b Galáctico Kid
2) Matt Knicks & Stevie Fierce b Furia Roja & Pat Monix
Knicks and Fierce were representing Freelance, who were threatening a takeover
3) Atómico Jr. & Mr. Brisa b El Traidor & Pentagoncito Jr.
finish appeared to be messed up (Pentagoncito hurt?)
4) Golden Dragón & Slayer b La Máscara & Máximo Golden Dragón & Slayer vs La Máscara & Máximo (posted by thecubsfan)
Mascara betrayed Maximo
5) Guerrerito del Futuro & Imperio © b Atómico & Venus [GALLI TAG]
6) Barry Ryte © b Mojo Mcqueen [GALLI CHAMP]
set up a McQueen mask vs Ryte’s title match after a distraction finish.
7) Penta el 0M & Rey Fénix (US) b Billy Star & DJZ and Gringo Loco & Skayde Jr. Billy Star & DJZ vs Penta el 0M & Rey Fénix (US) vs Gringo Loco & Skayde Jr. (posted by thecubsfan)
Mascara got involved, but Maximo countered him out. Vague tease of Skayde Jr. vs Fenix if/when Fenix returns into 2018.

I went to this. They didn’t announce any of the matches ahead of time, but announced that Penta, Fenix, DJZ, La Mascara and Maximo would be on the show. I didn’t realize that was going to be the main event until they suddenly announced it was time for the last match and all those guys left. They totally went for it and did some insane things I was not expecting. My phone camera work doesn’t do the match justice, but it’s worth going out of your way to check out. DJZ pointed out Penta and Fenix (and really DJZ too) don’t really have to go 100% at these small shows, but they still do because that’s who they are. There was a vague idea of them coming back sometime in 2018; they set up something with Skayde, but it was less certain than last time around.

I think I’m taking my terrible video skills to Santo/Mysterio show in Cicero on Sunday, but we’ll see.

Johnny Mundo defeated Rey Horuz in the main event of the WUW show on Saturday. Drago vs Aerostar vs Willie Mack was said to be match of the night. Lady Shani picked up the win over Taya in what was said to be another good match.

Atomik Star & Eterno cheated to beat Hijo del Alebrije & Aramis in the debut show for Liga de las Sombras promotion in Coacalco. Celestial Boy suffered an injury on the undercard.

The Crash returns to San Luis Potosi on Wednesday. They drew really well there in their first time in a month ago. At the press conference for this show, it was announced this show would be a pilot for a TV show on Televisa. I’m skeptical: I think Crash already filmed a pilot some time back, and local promoters will often tease TV as a way of increasing attendance. Still, Televisa carried both AAA & CMLL for years, only dropping CMLL because (it was said) they didn’t do enough to modernize. The Crash is a more modern product.

The Octagon trial run continues in Puebla, teaming with Kojima & Volador against Gran Guerrero, Negro Casa and Kojima. The semimain is a strange relevos incredibles; perhaps they wanted to do something with DIamante Azul on the ‘rudo’ side, but now Johnny Idol’s there. He teams with Cavernario & Felino against Angel de Oro, Kraneo and Valiente.

Los Panthers and Stigma versus Misterioso, Sagrado and Vangellys are in the tercera and might be the best match of the night. The diabolical trio of Canelo Casas, Espanto Jr. and Disturbio face Arkalis, Rey Samuray and Tigre Rojo Junior. The opener has the Centella, Meyer, Ares, Perverso and Fuerza Chicano. It’s the normal 9pm start time.

DJZ posted videos talking about the Sexy Star incident and returning to Mexico after his injury.

Hijo del Santo and the TxT crew are headed to Madrid, Spain for a show on 10/07. Santo Jr., Silver King, Casandro, Laredo Kid, Bandido, Psicosis II, Hijo de Fishman, Octagoncito (I) and Mascarita Dorada are advertised.

DTU has a press conference to talk about their upcoming shows tomorrow at noon.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-08-22 

NGD foiled

Recapped: 08/26/2017

All matches aired live from Arena México


Bengala & Sensei beat Apocalipsis & Cholo
(12:37 [5:25, 3:23, 3:49], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca beat Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Starman
(14:09 [6:00, 3:27, 4:42], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Puma, Tiger, Virus beat Drone, Fuego, Stigma  
(12:42 [4:50, 3:20, 4:32], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(11:32 [4:07, 2:45, 4:40], 1/3, good, via  VideosOficialesCMLL

Ángel de Oro, Titán, Valiente beat Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(9:45 [2:58, 1:49, 4:58], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Último Guerrero beat Mistico
(13:24, 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Mistico torito (3:26)

  2. Último Guerrero reversed torito cradle (1:24)

  3. Último Guerrero cradle with ropes (8:34)

What happened:

Tiger superkick

Mistico thought he had the match won with a La Mistica, but Tirantes tapped him on the shoulder because UG had the ropes, not for the win. UG then used the ropes for a winning cradle.

Sangre Azteca hurt his right knee on his finish, but left on his own power.



Fuego beats Virus with a hold

Último Guerrero & Mistico was solid and uninspired, the usual playing of the greatest hits album. In a way, it’s more disappointing for Mistico. UG is what he is, but while Mistico seems to have gotten better and sharper, he’s still missing that blow out performance of a match to announce him as an upper level wrestler. He did some neat things, but nothing more than you’d see from a trios, and he didn’t show another gear here. It’s Tuesday, it may not have been the extra gear day, so not giving up hope. Fans are still digging the UG formula, even if I trouble appreciating it.

Negro Casas with this group of Peste Negra just makes me want to see Negro Casas against the tecnicos and nothing else. There wasn’t a lot else here, and there sure was a lot walking on the finish. Everyone kept it to the basics.

This Dinamitas/Panther match didn’t have as much craziness as their Friday matches, but they still worked effectively together. It was plenty enough for a good match if not a great one. I like how the NGD can easily switch from being one team of rudos all working the same way to being three individuals when it’s the time for that. Finish was super creative and well done.

The tercera was the usual fast paced cat match. Tiger seemed like he had more bigger moments than usual, especially looking sharp in the first couple falls. Puma also broke out a German suplex he usually doesn’t do.

CMLL weekend results

CMLL (SAT) 09/09/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Acero & Aéreo b Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
tecnicos took 2/3
2) Disturbio, George Kebrada, Sangre Azteca b Pegasso, Robin, Sensei
debut of George (Jorge) Kebrada. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Zeuxis COR Skadi [lightning]
Skadi was hurt early on, jumping off the apron for a double stomp to a hunched over Zeuxis and landing horribly, breaking one of her legs. CMLL results list Zeuxis as sneaking in at the 19 count. She is said to have also needed help after the match (though there’s no mention of it by CMLL and it doesn’t seem to be severe.)
4) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther b Misterioso Jr., Nitro, Sagrado
tecnicos took 1/3
5) Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr., Titán b Felino, Forastero, Sansón
tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Marco Corleone b Kojima, Mephisto, Mr. Niebla
Marco Corleone replaced Diamante Azul. Tecnicos took 2/3.

Skadi says recovering from her injury will be the biggest challenge of her career but she’ll be back. From what it looks like in pictures, that was a really bad idea of a move to try, especially given Zeuxis’ match on Friday. Skadi often seems to be dangerous to herself or others in matches. It’s terrible she got hurt, but it’s worse if not more was done to calm her down before it got to this point.

CMLL (SUN) 09/10/2017 Arena México
1) El Coyote & Templario b Bengala & Sangre Imperial
2) Eléctrico, Fantasy, Stukita b Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
3) Hechicero, Pólvora, Sagrado b Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
rudos took 2/3
4) Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush b Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Valiente
Rudos too 2/3. Angel de Oro replaced Diamante Azul on 09/07.
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. b Felino, Kojima, Negro Casas
tecnicos took 2/3.

CMLL seemed to up a Kojima/Volador match last week and again on Friday, but no particular mention of it in the results. Might turn up in the lineups anyway.

Former EMLL wrestler Sultan Gargola/El Macho passed away, according to El Pancracio

Lucha Memes announced a 10/01 show for Coliseo Coacalco

Tiger has a great match at Chairo show that never made the light of day, good to see him back here.

+LuchaTV put up Hechicero vs Kojima from the most recent Lucha Memes show.

An interview with Argenis has him saying La Parka is in the cage match with him and Bengala.  The way it was announced in Irapuato, it was Lanzeloth in the match, but the original poster has La Parka. Argenis is either ahead or behind on the storyline. It’s a AAA dome cage match so it probably doesn’t matter. Neither are losing and the match isn’t going to be any good.

MicromanFever transcribes Aeroboy talking about his partnership with Violento Jack.

Aqui La Lucha has a micro interview with Microman.

Dario Cueto has a top 10 countdown of his favorite things about Lucha Underground. It’s fun.

The Winter Palace has Dr. Lucha onto talk about the Anniversary show.

boring CMLL show, Fenix/Penta on iPPV tonight, Sexy Star says thing

he still does this very well

CMLL (FRI) 09/08/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Ovacionesthecubsfan]
11:12. rudos took 1/3.
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Puma, Tiger, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
18:28. tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. b Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:09. Straight falls. Cavernario & Casas didn’t get along with Adonis from the start and eventually betrayed him to set up the loss.
8:04. Rey Bucanero got his feet up on a Titan moonsault to set up the win.
5) Kojima, Pierroth, Rush DQ Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:48. Rudos took 2/3. Kojima faked a foul from Volador.
6) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone, Mistico LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:43. Rudos took 1/3. Gran Guerrero pinned Mistico with his finish for the win.

This show between the two big Fridays shows was about as skippable as it gets; a Tuesday night show on Friday. Even the good stuff was good stuff we’ve seen many times. They did a few things to hint at the Kojima/Volador and Adonis/Peste Negra stuff, but nothing so important that you’d actually need to see them. Do not go back and watch this if you missed it.

A group of CMLL luchadors, including Fuego, Titan, Soberano, Dragon Lee, Principe Diamante, Robin, Star Jr., Fiero and Fugaz, won a radio station sponsored soccer team tournament.

The CMLL bodybuilding contest will take place on 11/29.

Titan and Angel de Oro are part of an metro escalator campaign.

At the EMW/AAA show in Tijuana, Vampiro announced AAA’s talent search is unending and they’ll being having tryouts soon in the town. 126f pointed out it means AAA and The Crash will be fighting for the same prospects. We haven’t heard a detail about the new school since TripleMania.

Sexy Star says she’s saying goodbye to being Sexy Star. I guess that means she’s out of AAA, but none of Sexy Star’s words really mean anything.

It’s a slow weekend of shows, with most saved until next week



San Francisco’s APW announced Rey Mysterio Jr. & Juventud Guerrera vs Fenix & Penta on 11/10.

PWR will aslo have Negro Casas and Blue Panther in on 11/18.

Baby Rap took Indio Kikapoo’s hair in Arena Tigre Padilla.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Sensacional de Luchadors talks to Aeroboy about his team with Violento Jack.

Kcidis does a fine job of illustrating IWRG family troubles.


CMLL (SAT) 09/16/2017 Arena México
1) Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
2) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
3) Kráneo, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
4) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis [mask]
5) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
6) Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero [mask]

This is exactly the lineup that was in the paper on Thursday. The reason CMLL didn’t publish it on Thursday and didn’t publish it on Friday was not because they were scrambling to make changes, but because they don’t really care about this show and more than any other Friday.

Diamante Azul is still listed on the show. With CMLL, it’s still possible he’ll be taken out later.

MUCHAS LUCHAS (SUN) 09/24/2017 Arena Jalisco, Guadalajara, Jalisco
1) Dengue Asesino & La Tarakalosa vs Implacable & Mini Joe Lider
2) El Enviado & Seiya vs Rayo Star & Sky Man
3) Estrella Oriental vs Toxin [MUCHAS LUCHAS SUPERMO]
4) Caim, Draego, Randy vs Andy Boy, Guerrero Mixtico, Jerry Calavera
5) Brian Villa & Willy Banderas vs Demasiado & Diva Salvaje
6) Garza Jr. & Último Ninja vs Gallo & Makabre

Guadalajara’s super inide has a Monterrey vs locals main event.

The Crash (MON) 10/09/2017 Parque de Beisbol La Junta, Nuevo Laredo, tamaulipas
1) ? vs ??
2) Keyra vs Diosa Quetzal
3) Flamita vs Séptimo DragónÚltimo NinjaSombra De Plata
4) Keith Lee vs Brian Cage
5) Jack Evans, M-ximo, Willie Mack vs Bestia 666, Black Taurus (Indie), Pierroth
6) Daga & Penta Zero M vs Garza Jr. & La Máscara

The Crash’s debut here has Rebelion vs Garza & Mascara. I still don’t know who this Sombra de Plata is.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-08 

Titan into the first row

Recapped: 09/08/2017

All matches aired live Arena México


Akuma & Espanto Jr. beat Astral & Oro Jr.
(11:21, 1/3, ok)

Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Puma, Tiger, Virus
(18:28 [8:11, 3:37, 6:40], 2/3, ok)

Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. beat Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
(13:09 [6:40, 6:29], 1/2, ok)

Rey Bucanero beat Titán in a lightning match
(8:04, moonsault boot counter, ok)

Kojima, Pierroth, Rush beat Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. 
(10:48 [2:44, 1:35, 6:29], 2/3 DQ, below average)

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero beat Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone, Mistico
(11:43 [4:41, 2:15, 4:47], 1/3, good)

What happened:

Virus vanishes

Kojima & Volador feuded. Rush pulled the ref out to stop a Volador win, and Kojima faked a foul to win.

Sam and his partners didn’t get along from the start, and Sam was never much interested in the match as much as annoying his partners. Casas and Cavernario fought Adonis, and held him in place for Stuka’s splash. Everyone attacked Sam Adonis after the match.

Espanto Jr. replaced Canelo Casas. Akuma and Astral seemed shaken up after an Akuma third fall dive, though it might have just been mostly selling.


this is only this low because I always used it on Twitter

A largely boring show. The best matches were slightly different versions of matches we’ve seen many times. You can easily skip this one.

The main event was a good match in very much the normal fashion between the two teams. Like the other good match on the show, it picked up a lot in the third fall. Dragon Lee & Mistico doing crazy things were the highlights. Gran Guerrero pinning Mistico made sense in the building up, where few things have been logical. Not sure it’ll make much of a difference at this point, nothing on this show felt like it mattered.

The semimain has notably low effort, with Volador and Kojima the few people who felt into this at all, and most of that was them doing comedy bits. Valiente & Rush had an awful exchange where they were selling moves that were missing by miles. I hardly remember Carístico in this match, except for Pierroth failing to catch a dive like usual.

Astral tornillo

The lightning match was slow and mostly uninteresting, about what you would expect out of Rey Bucanero in a pointless singles match in 2017. Not sure why this match happened, not sure why Bucanero needed to win, not sure why I watched this. Titan going into the crowd was neat. That was all you need to see.

The tercera was just a weird waste of time, something that didn’t really work. The rudos spent most of the first fall doing the breakup, fought during the break, and then apparently felt a need to go thru a normal match so the técnicos could get in some spots in the second fall. They had made the ending pretty inevitable after the first fall, to the point where a second fall didn’t even seem to have a need, but they made it go long anyway. Sam Adonis getting destroyed was popular but it didn’t make for a good match.

Mistico usual crazy headscissors

The second match had slow first fall, with the crowd not feeling the Virus/Maya mat work (which may have caused it to end early) and the other exchanges not impressing. It picked up a little bit in the second fall and a lot in the third fall, which was good in itself. Still, there’s so many similar matches with that guys, this seems below average for them. Fuego looked like the best guy all match, and definitely the one the crowd was most into. The ending sequence with Drone & Virus was well done.

The still-new dives livened up what was a normal opening match; they put more creativity to them than much of their work inside the ropes. Oro looked worse than usual, Astral maybe slightly better.

Drone tope

Niebla Roja injuried?, Diamante Azul off cards, Ayako/Shani for Reinas title

tonight (mostly)

CMLL (TUE) 09/05/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Guerrero de la Muerte & Ráfaga b El Divino & Explosivo
rudos took 2/3
2) Flyer, Magnum, Príncipe Diamante b Artillero, Difunto, Metálico
Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Silueta b La Comandante, La Seductora, Metálica
Comandante replaced Zeuxis. Tecnicas took 1/3.
4) Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Team Rush took falls 1/3.
5) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Kojima, Último Guerrero
Tecnicos took 2/3. Euforia fouled UG.

Marco/Euforia title match here probably. A 09/16 mask match participant missing a show is nothing new (see section below), and not anything to be concerned about unless it happens again. Zeuxis’ next match is Saturday in Arena Coliseo.

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports Niebla Roja has been out of action due to injury. Ernesto Ocampo of SuperLuchas confirms the story. Where they differ is the WON report believes Roja will wrestle his mask vs mask match on the Anniversary show but not be 100%, while Ocampo believes Niebla Roja may not be able to wrestle on the Anniversary show. (The sentiment from others is Roja will wrestle.) The specific injury is not mentioned in any report, with Ocampo only saying it happened on apron spot with Gran Guerrero.

The last streamed match we saw Niebla Roja in was the Friday August 25th show and he did not appear to suffer an injury in that match. However, Niebla Roja also wrestled in the main event on the next night on a private sponsor show (DHL) which only the people in the building saw and would’ve seen an injury. He hasn’t wrestled since. Niebla Roja appeared on CMLL Informa this past week, surely in response to people noticing he was missing matches, but didn’t directly address the situation. The WON says he’s expected to do something with Gran Guerrero tonight to hype the match.

I can’t write about this any more without addressing the elephant in the room, so if you really don’t want a major spoiler, maybe you need to skip the rest of this and check out for a week. Niebla Roja, as best as any one knows, has been long planned to be the loser of the mask match. Mexico people are probably going to be upset about me pointing this out, but Roja himself gave the game away on Informa. He mentioned the original plan for a Dragon Lee/Niebla Roja match before it switched it to Gran Guerrero (and you can go back and look to see that happening, with Niebla Roja oddly pinning Dragon Lee a couple times in singles matches right before and as the Roja turn stared.) Maybe you could believe him beating Gran Guerrero, but he wasn’t ever going to take Dragon Lee’s mask. And that’s why this is a potentially a gigantic problem – CMLL can’t just put someone else in Niebla Roja’s place, because they would need someone who’s specifically willing to lose their mask right now with no build. Angel de Oro would make a bit of sense as Niebla Roja’s brother sticking up for him, but would he want to give up his entire future masked career on short notice? The simplest solution for CMLL is to be quiet about this as possible, put Niebla Roja out there to have match, and just not worry about the quality. That’s what they’ve done so far, and it a lot easier than getting someone agreeable to replacing Niebla Roja.

(Moving the match down doesn’t seem a great solution; Gran Guerrero’s the other half of this because he’s the guy CMLL picked to elevate as a top guy, and being bumped down to the fourth match would send the message he’s not a top guy. But the chances of Sugehit & Zeuxis blowing away the main event, causing more people to be upset they weren’t in the main event, and CMLL being goaded into giving the luchadoras more of a chance going forward seem to have gone up.)

Another possible replacement for Niebla Roja might have been Diamante Azul, according to Ocampo. And, as you likely recall, CMLL did briefly throw out the idea of Diamante Azul versus Rush on 09/16. That didn’t happen, and Diamante Azul on the Anniversario show at all isn’t going happen. Yesterday, CMLL on Facebook mentioned Diamante Azul was off all weekend cards, announcing a bunch of replacements. This is unusual but welcome behavior for CMLL, who don’t announce lots of replacements. CMLL claimed Diamante Azul was off because he had a family emergency in France. La Aficion reported late last night Diamante Azul had declined to participate on the Anniversario show too. They didn’t specify France as the reason, and phrased it in a way as if Diamante Azul had rejected appearing on that show, not that he was suddenly unable to appear on them. The trip home to France might be all there is to it, I don’t know that there’s necessarily anything more to it. However, with CMLL being shady about the Niebla Roja situation, it’s easy to wonder if there might be a bigger story here too.

CMLL didn’t say Diamante Azul was pulled from the Anniversary show, because they never officially released the Anniversary show lineup yesterday. While it did appear in a newspaper, CMLL itself never published it as they had told the media would be happening on Thursday. It may be as simple as figuring out who goes in Diamante Azul’s spot, or maybe more will be happening. Ovaciones has a story saying the card will be officially announced today, but it is still not out as of the time I write this.

All that CMLL drama is behind the scenes. Tonight’s show looks pretty drama free in terms of ongoing issues, but those backstage things a bigger deal. The main of Los Guerreros versus Dragon Lee, Mistico and Marco should be pretty good, but what Niebla Roja does or does not do is going to overshadow it. There’s normally not a big difference between Niebla Roja walking out on the ramp to distract Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja actually getting in the ring to attack him, but those are meaningful differences tonight.

Volador, Valiente and now Caristico (replacing Azul) will take on Kojima, Pierroth and Rush. Titan and Rey Bucanero will have their second ever singles match as tonight’s lightning match; Bucanero won the match they had last year.

The story match of the night is probably the third. Last time Cavernario, Negro Casas and Sam Adonis were a team in Arena Mexico, Sam Adonis ended up running away from a horde of angry Mexicans. Peste Negra and Adonis got along better in Puebla, but Negro Casas is a legend and Sam Adonis says he’s going after Mexican legends, so this might not go well for the rudos. They face Rey Cometa, Soberano and Stuka tonight.

Drone, Fuego and Guerrero Maya face Puma, Tiger and Virus in what should be another good match. Astral & Oro vs Akuma & Canelo Casas probably won’t be as good, but will open the show

This is a free stream; CMLL’s back on ClaroSports this week, and will post the show on their YouTube channel about a half hour after it finishes.

AAA announced Ayako Hamada won a multiwoman match on an Aguascalientes spot show, making her the other participant in the match for the Reina de Reina championship with Lady Shani. Those are the two women who were in the TripleMania match with Sexy Star and Rosemary. They’re probably in the title match again because AAA thinks they’re the more qualified people, but it also is AAA taking clear sides over what happened in that TripleMania match. In Irapuato, it was said that title match would take place at Heroes Inmortales. 3 days later, the date and location is said to be determined.

(Serious question: did AAA drop the #1 title shot briefcase angle? No one – no Kross, not Bronce – has had one at the last three TV tapings. They spent a whole lot of time on that to not at least write it out somehow, and no one cares about AAA storylines because they so often just vanish with no explanation like this. If you start to tell a story, you’re obligated to finish it or no one’s going to want to hear your stories.)

AAA wrestlers are at the EMW show in Tijuana tonight. AAA house shows usually don’t mean anything, but they did announce Vampiro would be there and Vampiro did an angle at the show last night. Maybe they’ll do something more here. Vampiro did post video of him from last night’s Aguascalientes show., but it’s nothing interesting unless you want to see about a few more minutes of Vampiro waiting to the ring, and then four minutes of Vampiro doing stuff before the match starts.

AAA in Japan has announced the eight team concepts for the 10/10 Lucha World Cup

  1. Mexico (AAA)
  2. Mexico (LU)
  3. US (NOAH)
  4. US (LU)
  5. Japan (NOAH)
  6. International (IGF)
  7. International (LU)
  8. UK & New Zealand team

AAA in Mexico still is not acknowledging these shows, even saying they had nothing to announce about them when specifically asked. This lineup seem like someone’s worked all the individuals who are on the teams, but some deal must not be done if AAA is not talking about these shows. They’re nearly a month away, there shouldn’t be any question about everyone being on the same page. I’m not saying they’re not happening, but I’m saying to make sure you can get a refund for anything you spend on these in case they go away.

The WON says Garza Jr. & Ultimo Ninja will be going to NOAH. Ninja replaces Fenix, thanks to AAA “warning” NOAH that the MGM part of LU would come after NOAH for using Fenix. That never made sense, LU/MGM didn’t have a problem with Cage working for NOAH, and Fenix was eventually able to get LU/MGM to send a statement proving they weren’t going to have a problem with Fenix working for NOAH, but NOAH had already moved on.

lucha TV preview for weekend of September 7th

full size

Lucha Underground has the match they’ve been teasing for half the season (Rey/Matanza) and a tease for the match at the end of the season. One person on Puma’s side is an easy guess given who’s on the other side, while the other two are more random.

You probably can skip the next two weeks of AAA if you already watched TripleMania.

Down to one IWRG show for the time being.