lucha TV preview for weekend of April 20th

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I’m all about scoops, so here’s something I’m probably not mentioning on Twitter for twelve or so hours: I am doing non-wrestling things on Friday night so you may be on your own for CMLL Claro. I’ll probably rig something up and attempt to remotely it remotely around 8:30, but no promises it’ll work. Hopefully, the stream just won’t be blocked and no one will miss me. The main event could be good and the Copa Juniors could be good, but it’s also not one of the more vital shows.

AAA in Neza seemed to be taped in order of how they planned to air, but San Luis Potosi looks more back to the normal mismatch. They taped five normal matches and one with locals, so there’s a chance AAA could shrink taping down to one week. I”m guessing the odd number matches will air.

IWRG is in a stretch of one week shows; there’s probably not a midweek one next week either since Memes is running on Friday.

If you’ve noticed this getting smaller, I’ve dropped the 52MX listings since I no longer have eyeballs on it. I expect it’ll continue to be the Puebla shows in edited form. We’re probably getting Puebla live only because they’re also taping it for TV; it’s too bad they don’t have a TV deal for the Sunday show.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-04-15 

we may need a new Mascara de Bronce

Recapped: 04/17/2017


All matches were taped at Arena Neza on March 31, 2017 and can be seen on AAA’s channel. There are also handheld highlights on Estrellas del Ring’s channel.

  1. Mamba defeated Estrella Divina (4:58, powerbomb, OK)
  2. Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria defeated Aerostar & Drago to win the AAA World Tag Team Championship (7:00, Cuervo crossface on Drago, OK)
  3. Australian Suicide, Dr. Wagner Jr., Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Psycho Clown beat Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Soul Rocker (6:48, Wagner casita Mocho Cota Jr., good)

What happened: 

this is apparently legal now, so does that mean LA Park really beat La Parka?

The main event is originally billed as a trios match with Lanzeloth, Mascara de Bronce (in a new and totally different outfit) and Australian Suicide against Nuevo Poder del Norte. About two minutes into the match, with the rudos in control, Dr. Wagner’s music played him to ringside. He didn’t actually get in the ring, just stood on the ramp watching as Psycho’s music also played and he came down to the ring. The match came to a stop as they face off, and then they both attacked the rudos who attacked him for a DQ. This was not a DQ. Monster and Murder Clown ran in, first throwing the referee to the floor, then attacking Wagner & Psycho (and also Carta Brava, for whatever reason.) Everyone brawled for about a minute before Vampiro made his own appearance, though he had to wait until the music kicked into his part to appear. Vampiro played to the crowd and made a 5v5 match, though Wagner wasn’t much interested in teaming with the técnico 4. Wagner eventually participated with no issues, but did steal the pin from Psycho Clown.

Lanzeloth tried

Aerostar, already hurting from his match with Super Fly, was attacked by Cuervo & Escoria in the locker room. Aerostar proceeds not not really sell the attack in any noticeable way – he’s not hurt, he’s not delayed to the ring, he doesn’t angrily go after the Sect, he just does his normal entrance. The rudos gave Aerostar a spike martinete late, then submitted Drago soon after. In true AAA form, the new champions haven’t even been handed their belts before they’re interrupted by Pagano’s (very well done!) music video. Pagano hands over the belts himself, mugs for the crowd, gets in his catch phrases, mocks the new champions to their faces, steals their champagne, and lays them both out when they try to come after him.

There’s a one second shot of Texano getting his neck looked at by a doctor. Texano is back wrestling on non-TV shows, so this injury can’t be as bad as it’s being teased

Estrella vs Mamba is explained was Vampiro ordered it. Both this and the first part of the main event were officiated by a new unnamed referee.

An argument between Super Fly & Ricky Marvin aired, which seemed to foreshadow Super Fly replacing him last week! It’s one week off, but I guess at least they filmed it.


quadruple tope

The main event was pretty fun, though I can only imagine what people at home thought when they started that trios match as the final match of the TV show and actually committed to letting it play out for a few minutes. (It’s the sort of slow play bit that AAA could use in other things and it was good to say it here.) The crowd was inescapably there for Wagner & Psycho and no one else, but having a hot match and hanging out with a top guys as near equals did a lot for the others here. The skinny flying técnicos got to do their flashy offense in a match that mattered to the crowd, and did not seem overshadowed at all. Nuevo Poder del Norte got beat, but they got in some on Wagner and Psycho and it didn’t feel just perfunctory. This was also just a really fun match for the time it lasted, and one the crowd actually cared about. This was totally enjoyable.

The tag title match never really found it’s rhythm, and just seemed awkwardly slower than expect at parts. Aerostar getting attacked and nothing really coming of it also threw me off, but I figured the two times the rudos got cut off going for a dive was going to lead to them finally hitting it on the third time as part of a really hot finish. And then Scoria & Cuervo did a totally illegal martinete, and did a sequence with Drago that seemed messed up, and somehow that was it. Cuervo & Scoria often seem like they could be good in trios and have a habit of not coming up big in big matches, and it happened again here. There was surprisingly little to this match and the crowd didn’t care about any part of it, even the martinete spot especially done to get heat. It seemed like it could’ve been a micing issue until Pagano came out, and then it was just clear the fans cared about that guy and not the rest of this. Same could be said about the people in charge. No one takes Cuervo & Scoria seriously to begin with, the tag titel win didn’t do much for them, and the bit with Pagano made sure everyone knew the new tag team champions were jokes. I don’t understand why AAA even bothered with this – they could’ve easily gone Aerostar/Drago vs Pagano/Mesias if they wanted. Maybe Cuervo & Escoria agreed to do some crazy stunt with Pagano coming up, maybe there’s some other reason that makes this worthwhile. It came off as a worthless waste of time here.

congrats to the new champs

Mamba/Divina was a short if moved filled take on a CMLL lightning match. (They could’ve gotten to a more normal CMLL length by doing the pointless mat work, but they skipped it.) This was billed, as if it was a surrpise match but they had clearly worked out it long in advance. Mamba gave Divina most of the match, getting in a few key shots and the powerbomb at the end, but Divina doing a lot of moderately agile spots without an issue. Divina wrestled fine for a (virtual) TV debut, good enough to be used more and with better potential for good matches than Pimpi, though not anything must see. Neither woman did the usual exotico spots, interestingly.

Daga debuts in AAW on Saturday, so here are some Daga matches to watch


Daga has his most high profile US indy match this Saturday in AAW in LaSalle, Illinois (about an hour or so outside of Chicago) against NJPW’s Michael Elgin. Daga’s been in AAA and had a small role in Lucha Underground, but isn’t as known as most of the Mexicans who came before him (Penta, Fenix, Aerostar, Drago, Fantasma) and hasn’t been as featured as Mil Muertes/Mesias, who’s also debuting Saturday.

Daga hasn’t shown the ability to connect with a crowd of Penta, and doesn’t wow you with flying moves like Fenix. Daga’s more a straight ahead MMA influenced striker, wearing his opponents down with kicks and elbows and chops and hopefully winning the fans over by his willingness to take the same punishment. In Mexico, he’s the very real black & white straight man who stands as a contrast to colorful and sometimes farcical opponents. In the US, where there a few less colors and a little less levity, he’s going to have to fight very hard to stand out. I think he can do it, but this is going to be test.

At the last AAW show, I was asked which Daga matches would be worth checking out before he debuted, to get a sense of how he wrestles. I immediately recommended the Fenix singles match from last year, arguably the best 2016 AAA match.

but the person had already seen it and I was stumped for a second answer. Which was not the greatest endorsement of a guy I like.

It’s not totally my falling as a lucha libre person – AAA seemed to think highly of Daga, but rarely scheduled him for singles matches. His only other AAA TV singles match was the apuesta match with Australian Suicide. That match was alright, but marred by usual AAA single matches issues. Daga’s had a few more singles since he’s left AAA (including one with ACH where ACH steals the show in usual fashion) but nothing that jumps to mind as a great exhibition for Daga.

Daga’s match with Texano in Season 2 Lucha Underground was great for both guys, but LU didn’t put that one online. You kind of have to go back all the way to his dream match against Davey Richards in 2011 for another spotlight singles match, who’s style Daga’s greatly resembles. (That’s also my guess why Elgin/Daga is the match; Elgin had some very highly rated matches with Davey Richards, so maybe Daga can recreate some of that.)

There’s plenty of other Daga of matches, if you’re willing to watch Daga matches where he’s not always the focus and there’s more people around. The four way for the AAA Fusion Championship wasn’t a 1 on 1, but was a pretty good match. It’s a shame the title didn’t amount to much.

There are plenty of tag matches from the last couple years though. Daga, Steve Pain and a changing third partner were a much enjoyed rudo trio in AAA in 2014-2015, and were part of a strong core of TV matches during that period

Daga & Steve Pain challenged Angelico & Jack Evans for the tag titles in 2014

They welcomed Fireball (Flamita) back to AAA in an superb TV match right before that year’s TripleMania.

they had a really good three way tag match with Angelico & Jack Evans and Pentagon & Joe Lider, which played off Daga’s split allegances in his own group and the Perros del Mal

and they meshed well with Australian Suicide & Speedball, in one of Mike Bailey’s last matches with AAA (and part of the long build to Daga/Suicide)

The best match of this run, at least to me, was an oustanding trios match with Aerostar, Bengala (Ricky Marvin) and Argenis, with Hijo del Pirata as the third rudo. This isn’t all Daga being great – Aerostar & Pain have an unreal chemistry and I’m disappointed we haven’t got to see them go one on one somewhere – but everyone comes out of this match looking good.

These matches are generally against smaller or same sized people, guys who don’t look a lot like Michael Elgin. (Not many people look like Michael Elgin!) Daga’s challenge on Saturday will be to adapt what he can do – the strikes might not be as effective against bulldozer, and he’s probably not going to take a headscissors. It’s going to be tough, but he’s got to not give up, and let the crowd know too that he’s to he’s going to keep fighting. Daga’s old catchphrase was #DagaEsLucha – Daga is Fight, and he’s got fight a lot on Saturday.

Ringo/Herodes benefit show in Coliseo, Mundo not in TJ, LU/Penta

CMLL (TUE) 04/18/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, CMLL]
1) Espectrúm & Sádico b Neutrón & Star Black
Star Black replaced Javier Cruz Jr.
2) Magnus, Oro Jr., Vaquero Jr. b Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Ráfaga
3) Marcela, Sanely, Silueta b Dalys, Metálica, Tiffany
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Valiente b Kráneo, Luciferno, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush b Atlantis, Carístico, Diamante Azul
Rush snuck in a foul on Diamante Azul

That set up Rush/Diamante Azul for next Tuesday in Guadalajara.

There’s a special one off Thursday show tonight in Arena Coliseo. It’s branded as a CMLL show and is promoted on CMLL’s site, but it may be more of a copromotion along the lines of Elite, since they’re doing a lot of things CMLL doesn’t. They’re running an unusual day, they’re running two kickboxing matches, and they’re bringing in people who don’t normally work CMLL. The goal of the show is honor Ringo Mendoza & Herodes Sr., both who’ve battled health issues during recent years. The main event is Rey Bucanero, Terrible and Ulitmo Guerrero versus Villano IV, Canek, and Rush. It’s notable Villano IV is included, since he was working with AAA in some capacity last we knew. There’s a special Solar & Blue Panther versus Negro Navarro & Black Terry match in the undercard. CMLL Informa proudly talked about how the show will not air on the internet – they think that’s going to get more people to show up instead of staying home, though it was only mentioned on the stream the fewest people watch – so there’s little chance we’ll see this card. People did do fancams of Elite shows in Arena Mexico before they got TV, but this is probably just going to be a lost show.

CMLL put up highlights of Barbaro Cavernario vs Dragon Lee. This is the footage Rosalío Vera seems to be shooting at ringside, so it’s possible he really just record highlights and not a complete match, but it also shows how it easy it would’ve been for them to stick someone at ringside with a camera.

AAA posted a video with Taya & Johnny Mundo explaining Mundo won’t be in Tijuana. AAA had originally announced Kross/Fantasma for Tijuana, then did a in-ring bit in San Luis Potosi last week where Vampiro made it Mundo versus Fantasma in a title match instead, and now are back to the original match. It’s weird, Mundo & Vamp and everyone involved probably should’ve known Mundo wasn’t going to be in Tijuana before they ran the angle to change the match, but they did it anyway. Maybe the idea is to get Mundo heel heat for backing out Whatever reason, Mundo is the first person who got one over on Vampiro in storyline (and pretty easily.)

+LuchaTV has an interview with Jeff Jarrett from the AAA press conference. AAA separates himself from most people in his position by naming many different AAA luchadors with ease. I’m sure that comes off as sarcastic but it’s actual praise. Ed Nordholm talked about the copromoted show, which will happen in North America.

This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentioned the meeting Eric Van Wagenen had with Penta, which EVW mentioned about a week ago. The added details here is Penta was offered a new & improved contract, with higher pay ($1500 per match) and a push as the main guy in the promotion. However, he would have to agree not to wrestle in CMLL, Impact and The Crash, and generally not for any promotion that works with Konnan. Pentagon is believed to still be under the original seven season deal, so he’s not close to leaving Lucha Underground even if he turns it around, and a contract based on matches worked only is worthwhile when Lucha Underground is actually running matches – even if Pentagon likes this deal, there’s no real incentive for him to sign (or reject) at this moment if it is as reported. This is a story that probably will go nowhere for months. CMLL & The Crash being on that list are people AAA are against, and LU itself doesn’t seem like a friend of Impact, but AAA does and it’s all very confusing.

El Rey announced a new chief marketing officer. El Rey’s marketing presence has been pretty minimal, maybe we’ll see more in that area.

MGM announced a deal of Women of Wrestling. The press release says the MGM is hoping to take advantage of it’s success with Lucha Underground to do more in wrestling. MGM’s success has been at getting LU distributed internationally, and I’d suspect part of the idea is to use the relationships formed getting LU in places to also offer WOW.

Vampiro is angry about something. My guess was people thinking Impact + AAA meant trouble for LU (which it doesn’t), but Vampiro’s not very specific. We did learn he will not be appearing on Impact.

Kushida was on Wrestling Observer Radio for an interview. He was asked his thoughts Dragon Lee (and Volador, but didn’t answer about him) and said he likes lucha libre, but sometimes lucha libre doesn’t have a story, and that Dragon Lee would need to wrestle more in US and Japan to learn that part and improve. I still think Dragon Lee’s immediate future is outside of Mexico, which is another reason it’s disappointing when matches like Cavernario/Lee aren’t captured – it’d be foolish to assume they’ll be happening forever.

MDA in Arena Coliseo Monterrey on 05/07

RIOT on 05/20 in Arena Femenil Monterrey

AAA posted this week’s Zona Ruda with Mamba & Lady Shani interviews.

Dr. Wagner & son head to women’s promotion Stardom for a special match on May 3rd. This will be Dr. Wagner’s first match in Japan in three years, after also doing a guest appearance in this promotion in 2014. A Black Tiger is listed on the other side in the mixed trios match, which could be Silver King. Nosawa would fit as well, since Wagner worked for Nosawa’s Tokyo Gurentai promotion that time and could again.

CMLL catches up on the current life of Soberano: waiting to find out who he’ll face in Copa Junior, popular in Japan, and feuding with Misterioso.

Matt Farmer put together a list of 1977 Arena Mexico & Coliseo lineups & results.

CultIcon writes about Magnus.

SuperLuchas has a transcript of a good interview with Mascara Sagrada, who talks his feelings on winning Fishman’s mask. They also start a look back at 1979 in lucha libre.

Funcion Esterlar has with Hijo del Coco Amarillo and Angel Siniestro Jr.


The Crash (FRI) 05/05/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Douglas James, Oraculo, Serpentico vs Black Danger, Jonathan, Último Maldito
2) Arkángel Divino, Astrolux, Black Boy vs Diamante (Elite), Famous B, Látigo
3) Garza Jr., Jack Evans, Último Ninja vs Bestia 666, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Jeff Cobb
4) Flip Gordon & Ricochet vs Mr. 450 & Sammy Guevara
5) Daga vs Zack Sabre Jr.
6) Penta Zero M & The King vs Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson

Full card for the Tijuana show. The two top matches are going to be the big deal matches, but 2/3/4 could all be pretty good. Latigo worked the The Crash show in Aguascalientes, and I believe this is Diamante’s debut with the promotion. Pirata gets into an actual match as well.

The Crash also appears to be recording something around it’s February show; maybe TV, maybe for YouTube? Hopefully soon, it’s a two month old show.

great match roundup, week of 2017-04-08

unusual counter

I don’t have anything to say and I want to get this out so I can move onto other things. I think I liked the Copa Junior match less than almost everyone. I am updating the MOTYC list. I haven’t gotten back to reviewing anything else.

recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Black Terry & Negro Navarro © vs Blue Panther Jr. & The Panther for the Arena Coliseo (DF) Tag Team Championship LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-04-11 2017-04-11
good Espíritu Maligno vs Policeman for the hair LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 10 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-04-10 2017-04-10
good Mistico, Titán, Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Niebla Roja LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 10 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-04-10 2017-04-10
good Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-04-11 2017-04-11
good Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-04-11 2017-04-11
good Soberano Jr. vs The Panther, Drone, Oro Jr., El Cuatrero, Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Espanto Jr. [La Copa Jr. Nuevo Valores] and in a tournament semifinal match 2017-04-13 CMLL Claro (Atlantis vs Ultimo Guerrero) (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-04-14 2017-04-14
good Último Guerrero © vs Atlantis for the NWA World Middleweight Championship 2017-04-13 CMLL Claro (Atlantis vs Ultimo Guerrero) (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-04-14 2017-04-14

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05/16 AAA TV (Pachuca) – Wagner/Psycho scheduled


AAA TV (TUE) 05/16/2017 Arena Aficion
1) Concord & Guerrero De Plata vs Bronco González Jr. & Hijo Del Vikingo
2) Lady Shani & Pimpinela Escarlata vs La Hiedra & Mamba
3) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown vs Carta Brava Jr. & Soul Rocker
4) Australian Suicide & Bengala vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria
5) Aerostar & Drago vs El Mesías & Pagano
6) Argenis, La Parka, Ricky Marvin vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
7) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr.

Air Date: 06/03 & 06/10. There’s over two weeks between this and the previous taping (Tlaxcala on the 29th) but the busy run of tapings in late March and April will stack up a big backload. As a result, this show won’t finish airing until 25 days after it tapes. This is the one and only taping in May, so that gap will shrink back down a bit.

It’s also a partial lame duck taping. AAA could still set up things on this show, but the first half of it won’t air until the day prior to Verano de Escandalo and the other half won’t air until after. There’s no real exceptional matches on paper, making this feel like a taping that’s going to be quickly forgotten.

Of course, the matches on paper are likely not to be the exact matches which happen. There are matches which flow into the current storylines – Ricky Marvin joining the tecnicos to fight OGT, Pimpinela and Mamba matched up – but there’s no telling if they’ll be changed. Cuervo & Scoria and Mesias & Pagano could be picking up wins before their match in Juarez, but then they could all end up in an atomicos for what we know.

The four guys in the opener are the same exact four guys as in San Luis Potosi, so they could be regular additions to the crew. Maybe we should give them one more appearance to be sure.

Next taping is June 4th in Ciudad Juarez for Verano de Escandalo. It’s still a long way from happening, but we may have a good idea of what’s the plan after Friday night’s show in Tijuana.

Maximo keeps title over Terrible, Dorian on AAA/Impact/LU, PowerbombTV

Maximo still champ

CMLL (TUE) 04/18/2017 Arena México [+LuchaTV, CMLL, CultIcon]
1) Akuma, Hijo del Signo, Inquisidor b Bengala, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito b Eléctrico, Fantasy, Último Dragóncito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Tiger b Pegasso, Soberano Jr., Starman LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Starman replaced Triton on Tuesday afternoon. Misterioso pulled Soberano’s mask off after teh match
4) Virus b Fuego [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
replaces a Sugehit/Zeuxis title match
5) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero b Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone, Mistico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Niebla Roja didn’t get along with his partners but they still won, taking falls 1/3. Roja cleanly beat Dragon Lee in the third but wouldn’t share the victory with his teammates.
6) Máximo Sexy © b Terrible [CMLL HEAVY] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10th defense. Said to be a good match. Maximo took 1/3.

The main event got good reviews. The semimain is watchable at least for the finish, where Ultimo Guerrero is a little amazed at Niebla Roja’s behavior; the Guerreros are going to tear Roja to shreds some day soon.

Okumura is recovering from his neck operation.

Medio Tiempo has an interview with Dorian Roldan up from yesterday’s press conference. Dorian says not to rule out Lucha Underground wrestlers from appearing in Impact Wrestling. That fits with what was presented yesterday, but does not fit with how Lucha Underground has handled this situation in the past.

Infamously, Hernandez tried to leave LU to rejoin Impact in 2015, told Impact he had gotten a release from LU, wrestled on their tapings, and then was fired (and all the footage deleted) when LU legally informed Impact that Hernandez was still under contract to them and not allowed to appear. This would be more a willing copromotion than that, for sure, but I’m not sure the situation has changed all that much. Eric Van Wagenen, in recent podcast appearances talking about Pentagon and other’s situations, said everyone is welcome back for season four just as long as they do not appear on another US TV show. He was more emphasizing the welcome back part of that equation, but we’ve got one person in a position of power saying there’s just one rule, and another person saying they’re going to break that one rule. I dunno.

The one thing that has changed since the Hernandez stuff is Dorian Roldan is now VP of all the wrestling side of Lucha Underground, so maybe that gives him more power in making these decisions? Or maybe it’s only covering live events and MGM and other investors would still have power over TV appearances? Remember, the other Impact/LU incident was Marty Elias getting blurred out on Impact when they showed part of a The Crash show. That wasn’t really an AAA issue, and I don’t think AAA wanted it to be an issue since they were working on their own deal with The Crash, but there wasn’t much AAA could do about it. AAA hasn’t seem to be able to make all the LU decision in the past. Maybe there’s some deal here – AAA doesn’t get in LU’s way of using Pentagon/Sexy Star/etc, LU gives AAA a pass on doing minor stuff with Impact – but it’s AAA, so I default back to not believing they’ll be able to actually do these things they’re talking about doing until it actually happens.

I have very limited interest in going to C2E2 this weekend for the Lucha Underground panel – it’s $35 and parking to hear stories I’m pretty sure I’ve heard on podcasts already – but one reason to go is because Van Wagenen & Roldan are both on the panel and maybe they’ll figure this out in real time on the stage. Or maybe they won’t and that’ll be fun too. (That panel will actually be people asking Rey, Mundo, Taya, Melissa and Vampiro why they’re so awesome and they will thank the fans for calling them awesome.)

Dorian said the alliance between Impact & AAA isn’t competition to LU. He sees LU as a TV show and a different product. The Dorian interview also mentions AAA (or maybe LU?) will soon be airing in parts of Africa. No specifics there, but just an example of how they’re trying to expand around the world, in addition to their efforts in the US.

Hijo del Fantasma said the usual things about the alliance with Impact Wrestling. He seems to think Jeff Jarrett’s wrestling and would like to face him. La Parka thought the same in a Record article not posted online. Jarrett wasn’t specifically announced as wrestling and hasn’t wrestled much since taking back over Impact, but it wouldn’t be a surprise if he was in the ring at TripleMania given his history.

Both Luciferno and Hooligan are scheduled in the main event of tomorrow’s Arena Olimpico Laguna, which is a little odd since Luciferno is the former Hooligan. Maybe he gave his son the Hooligan character.

DTU announced Jimmy Lloyd and Markus Crane for their June/July tour.

MDA in Arena Coliseo Monterrey on 05/07

Powerbomb.TV on 06/11 in Old Forge, PA (and streaming live on their network)

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Super Apuesta Podcast talks about Super Porky vs Rey Escorpion (the super libre plus match)

Hetzza took the loss in a three way title match, after taking a pinfall loss in a tag match the day before. Her trip to Stardom is probably going to more successful as a learning experience than with victories.

An interview of Ciudad Victoria’s Rocker Boy, a 41 year old luchador who’s a 26 year vet.

Ex-CMLL mini and alleged age faker Angelito has resurfaced wrestling in Oaxaca for Kid’s Day.

Gringos VIP were reunited.


IWRG (SUN) 04/23/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Signo Arkano vs Keiser Drago
2) Aramis & Kanon vs Atomic Star & Lunatik Xtreme
3) Pantera I vs Hip Hop Man
4) Black Dragón, Bobby Lee Jr., Hijo del Alebrije vs Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Picudo Jr.
5) Imposible vs Emperador Azteca
6) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Eterno, Hijo de Pirata Morgan
7) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © [IWRG IC TAG]
second defense

No Wednesday show this week.  The Traumas beat the champs back on the 5th so an IWRG title match makes some sense. Imposible in a title match is probably good news.

CMLL (TUE) 04/25/2017 Arena México
1) Flyer & Magnus vs Canelo Casas & Espanto Jr.
2) Oro Jr., Starman, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) The Panther vs Sagrado [lightning]
4) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys vs Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr.
5) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Johnny Idol vs Gran Guerrero, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Niebla Roja repeatedly beating Dragon Lee while breaking up with his partners would be an amusing development. Lightning match could be good. Magnus & Stigma booked on a Tuesday means they’re probably not wrestling on Friday (and so aren’t winning their Copa Junior block.) at least Magnus made the Copa Junior, Flyer couldn’t get even get that.

CMLL (TUE) 04/25/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Sky Kid & Smaker vs Joker & Sádico
2) Acero, Cosmos, Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio, Pierrothito, Relámpago Azul
3) Pegasso, Rey Cometa, The Panther vs Forastero, Puma, Tiger
4) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Sam Adonis
5) Diamante Azul vs Rush

I’m OK with missing the main event. The tercera sounds good except for The Panther having to be in two places at the same time. I wonder if it’s a Blue Panther Jr. sub (and so he’s not actually wrestling Friday) or if they just put in a name for Triton.

AAA & Impact talk their alliance, Maximo versus Terrible tonight, Chairo10


Impact & AAA

AAA’s press conference today was focused on their international plans.

The main part of the press conference featured guests from Impact Wrestling. Bobby Lashley, Eddie Edwards, Davey Richards, and Moose (who was there) were announced as appearing on TripleMania, and Jeff Jarrett said one of the Impact titles would be defended at TripleMania on August 26th. (Lashley is the current heavyweight champion, though that could obviously change. Edwards & Richards were a team which recently broke up.) They made sure to say the matches had not been determined. It was also announced AAA luchadors will appear on Impact Wrestling’s Slammiversay PPV on July 2nd. Hijo del Fantasma & La Parka attended the press conference, but they were again careful to say it had not been determined who would appear.

There was as much focus on the out of the ring alliance as the interchange of talent and titles. Dorian talked about Fight Network and Impact Wrestling’s reach around the world, with the idea that they’d help AAA get similar distribution. Jarrett and Ed Nordholm spoke about cross branded shows, and the press release is even more specific about it: there’s plans to tour together this fall. It’s not made clear where they’d be doing touring . (SuperLuchas got the impression it would be Mexico, +LuchaTV got the impression it’s in the US. The latter makes more sense but no one said.) AAA will help Impact’s TV show get into Latin America & South America, while Impact/Anthem will get AAA’s show into other countries.

The phrases “The Crash” and “Lucha Underground” were not said during the press conference, of course. AAA going in with Impact on tours would seem to take their attention and interest away from running Lucha Underground live shows. Or does that even matter – can AAA use the Lucha Underground name or characters on their own for shows if it’s not on TV? I don’t even know at this point. There’s definitely a reading of this that’s not positive for LU – or for the guys who left, because this would give AAA enough bodies not to have to concern themselves with the Pentagons and the Sexy Stars for now – but I don’t know if necessarily turns out that way. Plenty of LU fans are upset or concerned on Twitter, while Vampiro’s noting his role in Lucha Underground and saying this is a great day for everyone. (Vampiro also may be pitching the LU live shows as ‘Vampiro Invasion Tours”.) My take away is there’s a lot of competing interests and it’s hard to figure out how they’re all going to work in concert, which was kind of my belief before all of this.

The Fight Network might want to start their part of the deal with AAA with giving more prominence to AAA on their own network or making sure it’s airing; it appears to be off the schedule now. I don’t want to over state my own importance in this, but there are groups lesser tied to internet visibility that make a greater effort to remind people like me that they exist. The concept that this AAA show is important and valuable is a big part of this alliance, but no one involved is promoting it as important and valuable on an English language side. It should be a situation me and people with similar interests as me are getting weekly reminders about this show in Canada, even if we can’t get it. As it right now, I don’t know if the AAA show in Canada still exists unless Rob mentions it on Twitter. That’s should be an easy thing to fix, and a good barometer of how hard they’re working at this.

There were also talk of other international dates for AAA. They’ll go to Bogota, Colombia on August 9, 10 and 11th and Medellin on dates in November. AAA ran shows at the Palacio de los Deportes in 2015 as part of an annual fesival and had wanted to return; Dorian’s mentioned the potential of Colombia as a new market for AAA and running live shows there is part of it. If they can get into Colombia, they may be able to open the door for Impact as well.

There was also a surprise announcement of AAA returning to October. Their show last year drew well, but there were rumors of finance issues behind the scenes. Hayashi helped put that show together, so him showing up The Crash was interrupted as a signal he wouldn’t be working with AAA any more. The shows also seemed to be put on with help for Akebono, who’s currently having some very serious medical issues. AAA did not mention who they’d be working with this time

Dorian Roldan’s title has changed to Executive VP of Enterprise Development for AAA. It’s the saddest way to change a job, and Dorian talked about his father at the start of the press conference.

Of note, this was a press conference on AAA’s international aspirations and there was no mention of the Lucha World Cup. I think that’s as close a confirmation to it not happening. The thing is, I thought it wasn’t happening because they didn’t have partners in Japan and with Impact, but they’ve got the Impact relationship back and they apparently have a Japan relationship. It’s always been Victoria who paid for it, and maybe that’s the issue? I dunno. But I don’t expect to see it in 2017 since it hasn’t been mentioned.

CMLL (SUN) 04/16/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Domingos Familiares]
1) Quca b Micro
2) Black Sugar & Capitán Cobra b Destello & Destructor
3) Gran Kenut & Payaso Infernal b Dark Fire & El Alteño
Infernal & Fire were in fron Sinaloa for the first time in over a year.
4) Nautilius & Star Black DQ Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
Rey Trueno saved his brother with a mask pull and a foul on Star Black, drawing the DQ and setting up a rematch next week.
5) Omar Brunetti, Sky Kid, Smaker b Frezzer, Furia Roja, Mosco X Fly
X-Fly’s first match here since New Year’s Day

That tag match in the semimain is this week’s semimain event.

CMLL (MON) 04/17/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & Vega b El Perverso & Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito b Astro, Eléctrico, Último Dragóncito LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Drone, Espíritu Maligno, Stigma b Disturbio, Olímpico, Policeman LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Kráneo, Ripper, Sam Adonis b Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy, Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico b La Máscara, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dragon Lee landed on his head on his dive at the finish of the match, which left Mistico & Caristico both very concerned. Dragon Lee seemed fine and somewhat confused why his teammates were worried.
6) Rush DQ Atlantis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Atlantis took 2/3, the last when La Mascara ran in for the DQ and beat down.

Rush/Atlantis was good, seemed worth rewatching. Which is good since I’m going to do that.

Maximo versus Terrible for the heavyweight championship headlines tonight’s Arena Mexico show. Maximo won this title back from Terrible two years ago in a great match and they had a good rematch later in 2015. Maximo finds another level in title matches, and Terrible’s a guy who seems to have potential to do more than what CMLL’s given him the last couple of years. This match should at least be watchable and might even turn out to be the best CMLL match of the week.

The semimain will probably be more angle than match, as Niebla Roja teams with Ultimo Guerrero for the first time since he started having problems with the other Guerreros. Those two and Euforia will face Dragon Lee, Marco and Mistico. Fuego and Virus have a lightning match. They’ve had many. Since 2012, this is their eight lightning match. Fuego has won the last six, most recently in July.

Misterioso, Sagrado and Tiger take on Pegasso, Soberano and a mystery person in the tercera. CMLL’s preview continues to falsely advertise Triton in the spot even though there’s no chance he’ll be there; he’s still in Chicago. The question now is if the people in charge have even noticed Triton is gone and will have someone on his level as a replacement (a Panther or Esfinge) or haven’t noticed at all and will have to call in the first person who can make it to the show with their gear. Edit: I forgot to change the whole paragraph when they finally out Starman in the spot. Triton being replaced by Starman, a guy who’s been in the same spot for twenty years, is a strong indication Triton made the right move. Once that’s sorted out, that match should be more about the Misterioso/Soberano issue.

Electrico, Fantasy and Ultimo Dragoncito face Pierrothito, Mercurio and Pequeno Nitro in the minis purgatory division. Sensei, Bengala, and Principe Diamante take on Akuma, Hijo del Signo and Inquisidor in a rare opening trios. (If the main event is a singles, they add people into the card elsewhere.)

CultIcon also previews the show. It airs at 7:30pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Guadalajara has a Ingobernables versus Atlantis, Caristico and Diamante Azul main event.

Fiero and Cholo replace Sangre Imperial & Templario on Tuesday. Fiero’s yet another guy who debuted and then disappeared off the face of the earth who’s making returning.

A CMLL article randomly teases Zeuxis versus Princesa Sugehit for the Anniversary show in September. I don’t trust CMLL to even remember that feud in September. All I got out of this isn’t not happening any time soon and the red filter they used on the picture is really cool for that shot.

Okumura was scheduled to have neck surgery earlier today. The CMLL/NJPW partnership is working here: NJPW’s doctors are helping to evaluate his neck injury. Okumura is planning to recover in the hospital, then return to Mexico and send CT scans back to his doctors in Japan every month. He hopes to return to CMLL by the end of the year (and be in the ring for next year’s FantasticaMania), but there was concern this injury could end his career.

After his win on Sunday, Dragon Lee told the press he’ll have a surprise in coming days. That’s the generic thing luchadors say all the time, but I suspect it’s the BOSJ announcement in this case.

Generic article to hype Friday’s AAA taping in Tijuana. It sure seemed like AAA added Johnny Mundo this show, but they’re not mentioning it at all in the advertising for the show. Mundo would seem to make a difference in Tijuana (close enough to get people to come down from the US) and in general (or why would you be making him triple champ), but they’re still using the old poster which doesn’t have him on it.

The early poster for Verano de Escandalo doesn’t seem to reveal any matches (and still has Texano with the belt he doesn’t have.)

Ducle Garcia’s debut boxing opponent was revealed by Cancha last night: Yaneli Hernández, in a four round fight. It looks like Hernandez has been training for a fight for a while on her Facebook, so it’s possible everyone involved knew what the match was and it was just kept quiet until now for their own reasons. Hernandez has a 6-16 record on BoxRec, having lost her last seven bouts including one just six weeks ago. Her last win was over a women who came into the match 0-1 and hasn’t fought again. I don’t think anyone expected the ex-Sexy Star to face tough competition in her first match, and it’d be unfair to her if she had to with her lack of experience. As bad as that record is, there’s not many women who are boxing in Mexico at that weight, though there’s a very obvious money fight if Dulce Garica can win a few fights.

RIOT announced a new show on 05/20 (Lo Mismo Pero Com Mas Sillas – The Same But With More Chairs) in Arena Femenil Monterrey

Jimmy Lloyd was announced for DTU’s June/July tour.

RobViper has a music video of 08/21/16 ELITE.

+LuchaTV’s podcast has Reyes de Biutiful as guests, so it’s a merging of the lucha podcasts.

LuchaWorld has the latest Poster-Mania.

AAA’s put up this week’s episode.


CMLL (MON) 04/24/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Lestat, París, Zaeta Roja vs El Malayo, Guerrero Espacial, Sombra Diabólika
2) La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Soberano Jr. vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
4) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Reset week. Usual bit of names in the main event which could set up a singles match. Sugehit & Zeuxis again in the women’s match.

Lucha Memes MDA (FRI) 04/28/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid vs Baby Star, Dragón Fly, Galactar
2) Titán (CMLL) vs Rey Horuz
3) Zack Sabre Jr. vs Negro Navarro
4) LA Park vs Súper Mega
5) Rush vs Black Terry

Full card for Chairo 10. The opener should be fun and they’re overall going with a shorter card than usual. Those four singles matches are all big enough to be a main event on their own.

new lucha videos for the weekend of April 14th, 2017

This is the last week for WWC & 52MX. I’ve canceled the TV package which includes both shows. The 52MX shows can be seen quicker and in better quality on CMLL’s own YouTube channel. WWC is also now uploading their shows in better quality on their own YouTube channel.

I’ll continue on with shows I get off internet feeds: CMLL’s Friday night show, AAA’s show, and IWRG’s show. I’ll resubscribe to that package if a new show with original content turns up on a channel.

YouTube Playlist

04/15 & 04/16 WWC:  Cloud Drive

CMLL on 2017-04-14
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-04-14 @ Arena México
1) Shockercito, Stukita, Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito
2) Soberano Jr. vs The Panther, Drone, Oro Jr., El Cuatrero, Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Espanto Jr. [La Copa Jr. Nuevo Valores] and in a tournament semifinal match
3) Ángel de Oro vs Hechicero in a lightning match
4) Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Mephisto, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
6) Último Guerrero © vs Atlantis for the NWA World Middleweight Championship

AAA on Televisa: 2017-04-15
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-31 @ Arena Neza
1) Mamba vs Estrella Divina
2) Aerostar & Drago © vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
3) Australian Suicide, Dr. Wagner Jr., Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Psycho Clown vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Soul Rocker

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-04-16
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-04-03 @ Arena Puebla
1) Espíritu Maligno, Fuego, Pegasso vs Disturbio, Policeman, Sagrado
2) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
3) Atlantis, La Máscara, Rush vs Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-04-17
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-04-16 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Herodes Jr. © vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan for the IWRG Junior de Juniors Championship
2) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. vs Trauma I, Dr. Cerebro, Freelance, Pantera I, Gringo Loco, Apolo Estrada Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Leo, Bobby Lee Jr. in a cage match and in a tournament semifinal match
3) Trauma II vs Villano IV, Cerebro Negro, Black Terry, Veneno, Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible, Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Diablo Jr. in a cage match and in a tournament semifinal match
4) Freelance vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Veneno in a cage match and for the mask and for the hair

Freelance loses his hair (again), Atlantis/Rush tonight in Puebla

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 04/16/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Skanda b Lunatic Extreme
2) Aramis b Shadow Boy
3) Danny Casas & Heddi Karaoui b Black Dragón & Demonio Infernal
4) Herodes Jr. © b Hijo de Pirata Morgan [IWRG JUNIORS]
second defense
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. L Trauma I, Dr. Cerebro, Freelance, Pantera I, Gringo Loco, Apolo Estrada Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Leo, Bobby Lee Jr. [cage, semifinal]
Gringo Loco made his return to IWRG after 6.5 years, replacing super Mega.
6) Veneno L Trauma II, Villano IV, Cerebro Negro, Black Terry, Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible, Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Diablo Jr. [cage, semifinal]
Hip Hop Man was kicked out of the match for not having enough hair to lose a hair match, and Hijo del Alebrije replaced him.
7) Freelance L Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Veneno [cage, mask, hair]
Match was supposed to be Mascara Ano 2000 Jr. & Veneno, but Freelance attacked Veneno when eh tried to escape for no known reason. Freelance climbed in, and ended up being the last guy in when Veneno & Mascara escaped. Mascara gets credit for the win, and wants a direct match with Veneno.

This is Freelance’s second hair match here in Arena Naucalpan about 10 months (though the other show wasn’t an IWRG show.) Freelance was there, could’ve just lost one of the cage match and lost his hair, but IWRG decided to break their own rules – because they’re saving the big Veneno/Mascara 2000 Jr. match for another day, I guess. Freelance and Veneno weren’t even feuding, and no one really has a reason why Freelance came out. IWRG didn’t defraud anyone, because it’s not like they were promoting a specific final match, and they do these things because they believe their audience likes this sort of controversy. I hope they’re right for their sake but it looks silly from out here.

Today’s Arena Puebla show has an Atlantis versus Rush in a singles match. Atlantis is fairly consistent in singles matches, while Rush is fairly inconsistent. They could get a lot of drama out of it but it’s unclear strong the match will be.

Caristico, Mistico & Dragon Lee try teaming up again after Friday night, with more coherent opposition: Negro Casas, Mascara and Ultimo Guerrero. This should be the showcase match people were looking for Friday, though may not all out because it’s a Puebla show. The rest of the show is a random trios matches which might be good but without a sure bet and a lot of questionable people. Johnny Idol, Maximo & Titan take on Kraneo, Ripper and Sam Adonis. Espiritu & Policeman meet after their hair match, with Drone, Stigma, Disturbio and Olimpico fitting in. Astro, Electrico and Ultimo Dragoncito take on Joker, Pequeno Nitro and Pierrothito in a minis trios. The show opens with Arkalis & Vega against Perverso & Rey Apocalipsis

CultIcon also has a preview. The show airs at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube page.

Jeff Jarrett is in Mexico for meetings. A Twitter account says he’s there for a TripleMania press conference tomorrow; it’s a random account, so I’m not sure it’s correct, but it makes some sense. Not even neccesarily about Jarrett wrestling on TripleMania, but Jarrett had success promoting a NJPW show as a PPV, AAA would like to be back on US PPV, so maybe there’s a match there. He might also be interested in bringing in AAA luchadors for the Impact wrestling tapings this week (and navigating the thorny issues of who’s allowed to work and how close they work with The Crash & LAX guys.)

Okumura is under going neck surgery today. There’s no word on how long he’ll be out, but they’ll probably know more after surgery.

MDA & Lucha Memes announced a combo show on 05/07 in Monterrey, which probably pairs with the show in Naucalpan on 04/28.

A video feature on Rey Bucanero’s lucha libre school teaching children.


CMLL’s changed Friday’s lineup. The Guerreros are out, and Sam Adonis, Mr. Niebla and Pierroth replace them in the semimain.

CMLL (SAT) 04/22/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. vs Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Templario
3) Dalys © vs Estrellita [CMLL WOMEN]
9th defense. Esterllita’s 3rd challenge
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Máscara Año 2000, Sam Adonis, Vangellys
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Marco Corleone vs Gran Guerrero, Kráneo, Mephisto

CMLL’s booked Marcela & Estrellita almost exclusively as Dalys’ challengers. Lluvia got a title shot, and Jarcohita got one on an Elite show, but that’s about it. If Esrellita wins, it’ll probably just be Dalys & Amapola as challengers.

CMLL (SUN) 04/23/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial vs Camorra & Templario
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Skadi vs La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany
3) Drone, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Metálico, Puma, Tiger
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

Templario works both weekend shows after not getting booked for six months. Metalico seems like he’s slightly getting moved up.

CMLL (SUN) 04/23/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Micro vs El Destructor
2) Capitán Cobra & El Yaqui vs Demonio Rojo & Thunder Boy
3) Black Sugar, Fantástico, Mágico vs Évola, Gran Kenut, Mr. Apolo
4) Nautilius & Star Black vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
5) Explosivo, Omar Brunetti, Vaquero Jr. vs Espectrúm, Exterminador, Maléfico

Semimain is a rematch from this past week.