Guerrero Maya on TerceraCaida, ChilangaMask, FantasticaMania, Fuerza/Octagon

Not much going on today. IWRG is still off midweek. CMLL has a show in Arena Xalapa with Estetas vs Averno, Dragon Rojo, and Rey Escorpion. AAA tapes Sunday.

This week’s TerceraCaida has Guerrero Maya Jr. talking about his career, including footage of one of his earliest matches as Samba. The after the cameras bit includes a Jose Manuel rudo turn.

The ‘all CMLL’ show from the FantasticaMania tour has made it’s way to DailyMotion. I haven’t watched it but reviews aren’t great; they used a smaller ring for the small building and it threw things off.

Fuerza Guerrera did an interview with Terra pushing the idea of doing a mask match with Octagon. Yes, the year is 2014. They’ve been teasing this match, off and on, for 23 years. I noticed the article because Octagon RT-ed it on Twitter. It’s never going to happen unless Fuerza is willing to lose his mask (Octagon’s unlikely to want to lose him and AAA may not want him to do it) and I’m not sure how big a deal it would be.

El Santo held his annual meeting at the Santo statue, along with a mass in his father’s memory. Besides the anniversary of Hijo del Santo’s death, yesterday was also Fray Tormenta’s 70th birthday.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

There will be a Mini Royal Rumble in Puebla on the 9th. Over 20 minis on a benefit show for Bracito de Plata.

A lucha libre art exhibition, with artwork and lectures, will open this Friday in Nuevo Laredo.

Eric R @ Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Azteca 02/01/13.

Interview with Coahuila luchador Tempestad, who mentions training with Tony Salazar & Demus.

Aspiring luchadors are being bullied in Uruapan.


CHILANGA MASK (SUN) 03/23/2014 Coliseo Coacalco
1) Robin (CMLL) vs Íkaro [lightning]
2) Astro Rey Jr. & Psico Kid vs Fulgor & Karma
3) Latin Dragon vs Arez, Mike Segura, Golden Magic, Tornado (DF), Magnifico, Dinamic Black, Zurdog, Freelance [Copa Tercera Caida]
third version
4) X-Torm & Zarco vs Dr. Cerebro & Eterno
5) Negro Navarro & Solar I vs Arkángel de la Muerte & Rey Hechicero
6) Black Terry vs Guerrero Maya Jr. [super libre]
7) Pirata Morgan & Rey Bucanero vs Trauma I & Trauma II
8) DJ Hyde vs Masada, Kaientai, Aero Boy
9) Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson vs Belial & Titán (CMLL) and Impulso & Rey Cometa

Full lineup for the show. Eterno replaces Cerbero Negro; the last mention I heard was he was still in the hospital but that was a while ago. (It also means AAA & CMLL luchadors on the same show though I’m not sure what Eterno’s official status is.) This is the announced card order but we’ve seen that change depending on if/when the CMLL guys need to get to their Sunday show. Very excited for a lot of this matches.

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-12-28


taped 2013-12-25 @ Arena Mexico

Zayco’s just passing thru

Leono & Metálico vs Akuma & Zayco: A routine opening match with one psycho Zayco bump to the floor. He should’ve just stayed on the floor and been counted out forever after that, but he came in in after a minute or so for some random near falls. No one showed much but this was a match to show a lot.


Demus escapes!

Astral, Eléctrico, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico: Felt like a more active minis match than other ones of late. Maybe it was the same amount of action in less time, but it was more fun match to watch . Finishing sequence was not good.

Molotov, Starman, Stigma vs Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Shigeo Okumura: Canelo pins captain Starman about 3 minutes into the second fall. Only, he’s clearly not supposed to have pinned him – Tirantes counted too fast, Starman didn’t get shoulder up. Tirantes tries to end the match, only the rudos argued they didn’t actually win the match! Everyone generally ignored Tirantes and went along to do get in their spots and luckily Tirantes went along with it (though he appeared to receive a loud message in his earpiece between falls – when he finally put it back in.) This aired! I’m glad it did because I don’t what I’d write about this match otherwise. I was unconvinced by Canelo Casas finish, or that it was a move at all.


Canelo Casas’ finisher

Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Valiente vs Euforia, Felino, Pierroth: Short match, even granted the problems of the online feed. (They didn’t seem to join this one so late, it was just a quick match.) Guys generally seemed to be trying while there were out there. Delta seemed slower than usual. Pierroth remains bad and not a good fit for this match. I’m not sure which match he’d be a good fit for, but I fear they’ll keep giving him matches until they figure it out.


Rey Escorpion is good

Atlantis, La Máscara, Titán vs Averno, Mephisto, Rey Escorpión: Normal build up trios match, focusing on Atlantis/Mephisto with the other four guys getting in spots in between. I would’ve liked to see a more full out match with these guys to make it memorable, but they were still fine at this level. The visual of Atlantis’s ripped mask still around his head as he wore the replacement one was nice.

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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-12-28


Triton Special


taped 2013-12-17 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Fuego, Gallo, Tritón vs Raziel, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura: Rapid sub ten minute match that was OK for the time. Crowd shot editing made it looks like Gallo blew his finish in the second fall, but it seemed fine in the replay. Raziel made a strong save on Triton’s moonsault, which did not go as far as either guy was expecting at first.

TRT Superbomb

taped 2013-12-22 @ Arena Mexico
Atlantis, La Máscara, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys: Standard semimain with the técnicos focused on more. Rey Bucanero looked hesitant at times in this return match, but still took Atlantis’ monkey flips. They seem to know they have something in Titan versus Terrible because they make sure to do it whenever they’re matched up. It’s really the usual minis técnico/rudo size dynamic with regular sized guys. Mascara was able to name all the members of TRT off the top of his head, one of the more impressive things he’s ever done.


Zacarias headscissors!

Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas: A good and very heated match. I don’t know how Negro Casas didn’t break himself in half for all time with the messed up sunset flip spot. I loved Negro using Volador’s hoodie against him, the parts with Zacarias were good, but mostly it just felt like they were having a fight for lots of this. Crowd was way into this, and Volador did get them back from totally booing him at first. Casas never just wins via foul, he wins via doing something to put the ref out of position and then fouling. It makes it feel more like he had a plan than he looked into a mistake.

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Team Skayde wins (sort of), Aguila/Volador (double), Peste Negra

CMLL (MON) 02/03/2014 Arena Puebla [El Popular, Periodico Enfoque, Porra Fresa]
1) Akuma, Cholo, Guerrero Espacial b Águila Egipcia, Meyer, Paris
Rudos took 1/3. First Guerrero Espacial appearance since October.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Nitro b Black Tiger, Milenium, Tigre Rojo Jr.
3) Misterioso Jr., Puma, Tiger b Stigma, Stuka Jr., Tritón
Best match of the night. Rudos took 1/3. Stigma was strechered out after taking the front cracker, back cracker, powerbomb series from the cats (and Misterioso dumped Stigma off the stretcher.) Rudos took the tecnicos mask after the match. Stuka got a new mask and challenged Misterioso to a mask match, and the rudos came back and took his mask again.
4) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys b Diamante Azul, La Sombra, Rush
Rudos took 1/3, Terrible beating Sombra.
5) Mr. Águila & Reaper DQ La Máscara & Volador Jr.
Mr. Aguila faked a foul for the DQ. Mr. Aguila appeared to be drunk again, and crowd totally turned on the match. Volador called him out about it while setting up a match with him next week.

Misteriso/Stuka stuff sounds like the mask challenge they do frequently and nothing meaningful. Same way with the main event, more or less.

CMLL (TUE) 02/04/2014 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Pequeño Halcón & Último Dragoncito b Mercurio & Pequeño Warrior
2) Oro Jr., Soberano Jr., Starman b Disturbio, El Rebelde, Hijo del Signo
3) Fuego, Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. b Espiritu Negro, Guerrero Negro Jr., Shigeo Okumura
Espiritu Negro’s Arena Mexico debut comes in a loss.
4) La Máscara b Vangellys [lightning]
Campana for the win.
5) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo b Euforia, Niebla Roja, Virus
Tecnicos took 2/3, Maya on Roja & Delta on Virus.
6) Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla b Rey Cometa, Rush, Titán
Peste Negra took 1/3, Niebla sneaking a foul in on Rush. No problems between Felino and the other two; it seems as Peste Negra has expanded rather than pushed out the Casas brothers. Other two matchups in this match were Cavernario/Cometa and Titan/Felino.

It looks like the main event is setting up a trios title match, which means Titan will be on this show forever. Sandra Granados is listed as writing the recap this time. It’s an evolving process.

CMLL (TUE) 02/04/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) El Divino & Virgo b Demonio Rojo & Exterminador
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Demus 3:16, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito b Astral, Eléctrico, Stukita
Rudos took 1/3, Demus Driver on Electrico. Electrico needed medical help.
3) Boby Zavala, Camorra, Sangre Azteca b Stigma, Stuka Jr., Tritón
Rudos took 1/3. Azteca took Triton’s mask and cradled him.
4) Morphosis, Mr. Águila, Olímpico b Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr.
Rudos took 1/3. Aguila won via foul.
5) La Sombra b Averno
Sombra took 1/3.

People seem to get stretched every time Demus does his double underhook piledriver, so either they’re really committed to getting it over or maybe he needs to stop breaking people.

Payaso de Plata, Skull Metal, Payaso Extreme (photo by Black Terry Jr.)

IWRG FILL (TUE) 02/04/2014 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Mercenario, Skanda, Ultimo Caballero b Black Niko, Chicanito, Voltar
2) Muerte Infernal, Psique, Versus b Payaso De Plata, Payaso Extreme, Skull Metal
3) Atomic Star, Electro Boy, Fulgor II b Galaxy, Hip Hop Man, Vampiro Metálico
Galaxy looked the best in the match, but was submitted by Electro Boy.
4) Emperador Azteca, Látigo, Picudo Jr. b Araña de Plata, Blue Monsther, Matrix Jr.
Blue Monsther’s 11th FILL show without making a main IWRG show.
5) Aztlan, Destino, Jorge Kebrada, Kanon, Onix, Operativo X, Prodigo, Vertize b Alfa, Dragón Celestial, Fulgor I, Imposible, Omega, Power Bull, Seiya, Sky Ángel [cibernetico]
Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Skayde. Aztlan snuck in a foul on Dragon Celestial for the win. Team IWRG complained to Skayde that cheating was no way to win such a contest – and Skayde agreed! Skayde said it was not professional and declined to accept the cup, proposing they have a rematch for it at some other point.

Today’s the 30th anniversary of El Santo’s death.

Rob has highlights of 11/22/13 CMLL.

Texano says Psycho Clown better get used to seeing Texano as champion because that’s not going to change for a long change. Texano also says he’ll be on Rey de Reyes, but has no idea if he will be defending his title or not. I know he’s a rudo, and I know recent history suggests otherwise, but shouldn’t the world champion presume (or even demand) he’s defending his championship on one of the biggest shows of the year? And now I’ll stop over analyzing throwaway articles.

Soberano Jr. says he was a big fan of Volador, so teaming with him to advance in the Gran Alterantiva was a dream come true. In that interview, Volador takes a shot at Sombra, than does the more normal talk about preparing for the winner of the next block.

Estrellas del Ring has interviews with Kamilion, Xena, Dark Lady, and Lady Monsther to hype the 02/15 LIF all women’s show.

Tony Boy defeated Koko Viper for his hair in Monterrey. I also learned from this recap that Orquidea Negra is the ex-Coco Rosa (Monterrey version.)

Ikaro vs Robin has been added to the March ChilangaMask show.

CMLL Gaceta notes Diamante Azul winning the Occidente Heavyweight Championship.

AAA looks back at people you may have forgot were in the Rey de Reyes.

The April lucha libre expo says it’s raising money to create an old luchador’s home.

A lucha libre promotion in Washington state is trying to get reclassified as entertainment so they don’t have to pay the high licensing fees for sports in the state.

Covers of this week’s lucha magazines.


CMLL (SUN) 02/09/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Raycko vs El Piraña
2) El Ídolo vs Satara
3) El Divino & Virgo vs Évola & Magnum
4) Esfinge vs Demonio Maya
5) Gallo, Sagrado, Smaker vs Cavernario, Maléfico, Sádico
6) La Sombra & Titán vs Averno & Mephisto

That’s probably a pretty good main event.

AULL (SUN) 02/09/2014 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Reina Del Sur & Shekinah vs Chica Pantera & Mosha Dark
2) Aeroflash, Sky Fly, Super Brazo Jr. vs Pantherman, Rey Criollo, Rey Hechicero (aull)
3) Chico Che, Hijo del Angel, Seiya vs Apolo Navarro Jr., Ave Negar, Dragon Yuki
4) Ángel de la Noche, Pegazus, Shibata, Spider Boy vs Coca Rosa, Dona Margara, La Chona, Yuriko
5) Iron Love, Robin Maravilla, Terry 2000 vs Federal I, Federal II, Federal III
6) Samael & Tormento vs Trauma I & Trauma I and Cerebro Maligno & Sepulturero I and Chucho el Roto & Yakuza [AULL TAG]
Samael & Tormenta are champions.

I don’t have results for the 2013-12-08 AULL show, but AK47 and 911 were supposed to defend the tag team titles against Samael & Tormento. That must’ve been when the Bastardos won these titles. This has been your AULL tag team title history update.

CMLL (MON) 02/10/2014 Arena Puebla
1) Bengala, Camaleón, Tigre Rojo vs Akrón, Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Negro Jr.
2) Metálico, Robin, Sensei vs Espíritu Maligno, Siki Ozama Jr., Toro Bill Jr.
3) Marcela vs Tiffany [lightning]
4) Stigma, Stuka Jr., Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Puma, Tiger
5) Marco Corleone, Rush, Thunder vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Volador Jr. vs Mr. Águila
listed as for the honor and glory

Actual correct lineup, though there’s still a little repeat from last week.

Obviously, I need a Espiritu Maligno & Espiritu Negro tag team at some point. Figuring out the third man is tougher. Kamaitachi?

CMLL (TUE) 02/11/2014 Arena Mexico
1) Leono & Magnus vs Akuma & Zayco
2) Dragon Lee, Flyer, Robin vs Canelo Casas, Guerrero Negro Jr., Herodes Jr.
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Goya Kong vs Amapola, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit
4) Sagrado vs Virus [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Tiger
6) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs La Máscara, Rush, Titán

Atlantida versus TRT is a sort of new match.

CMLL (TUE) 02/11/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Leo & Sky Kid vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Lady Afrodita, Lluvia, Marcela vs Dalys, La Seductora, Zeuxis
3) Stigma, Stuka Jr., Tritón vs Boby Zavala, Camorra, Sangre Azteca
4) Volador Jr. vs Mr. Águila
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Euforia, Shocker, Último Guerrero

A looooooong week for Volador Jr.

Lluvia missed a large chunk of 2012 and 2013 with a knee injury, returned for a few months last summer, but appeared in DF infrequently and quietly disappeared after last September. I was guessing the knee injury was too much to come back from, but it looks like she’s giving it another try. (Or they just really needed to find tecnicas to be able to run two trios matches on the same day while Silueta is out of town.)

great match roundup, week of 2013-12-28

Great/Excellent Matches

Shows Watched But Nothing Made The List
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-12-28
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-12-28
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-12-28

Matches To Watch Later
Got nothing.

Is this a useless post?
Yes, mostly

Are you done with 2013, finally?

Ha ha no. I’ve got 2 or 3 or 4 more catch up posts, and I’m finishing 2013 TxT for some reason, at some point.


AAA UTDN: 2013-12-26


Fenix crushing legdrop

taped 2013-12-08 @ Auditorio de la Gente, Tepic, Nayarit
Angélico, Fénix, Jack Evans vs Juventud Guerrera, Pentagón Jr., Steve Pain: Going to look great in the highlights, but had some noticeably not smooth parts. Guys have had better nights – Juvi seemed to be not on the same page with Jack or Angelico in particular, but Fenix wasn’t on target at times too. They’re doing difficult things and it sometimes seems like it’s unfair to criticize them because not all of them work, but when there’s not more to the match besides the difficulty in spots, then they’ve got to work. Mexican Powers got to get the big win without us actually having to see them in the match, so I consider that a victory.

Super Pain Cutter

Blue Demon Jr. vs Electroshock for the AAA Latin American Championship: exactly what you thought it would be. They did the technical title match they promised, except they’re not as creative or quick with the holds as the guys who are actually really good at it. It was still different from a normal AAA match, but really compelling in itself. Demon had interesting matches here in his Texano feud, but it hasn’t really worked as well with the other guys. He looked old here.

Jack double stomp moonsault

Cibernético, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, El Mesías, La Parka vs Daga, Jeff Jarrett, Parka Negra, Psicosis: A less organized version of the match from the previous taping, only with extraneous Mesías/Jeff Jarrett bits. They were pretty much having a separate match, Mesías getting the big win (that really should end Jarrett here unless they’ve got a new idea for him, and may actually be the end even if they didn’t know at the time.) The rest of the match was all over the place, which worked for the live crowd who just wanted to see something to happen but didn’t come together on TV. The post match was a dozen angles in one, with something that wasn’t that interesting before coming back again for no particular reason. AAA spent weeks hyping an important meeting between the rudos and Jeff Jarrett, and it doesn’t seem to have actually happened or have mattered at all. That’s not the biggest problem here, but I’m struggling to see the point of all that time on backstage meetings between the heels if the meeting they were leading up wasn’t about anything and if they were always on the same side all along. Or why this happened this week instead of the previous taping. This has been a lame mystery story (why is Perro with the técnicos? Oh, wait, he’s not, he just wanted to hit Cibernético with a chair but passed up a dozen other chances to do it) with an uninspiring payoff (all the heels who were already vaguely aligned are now strongly aligned and under old and not exciting management.) I’m happy with soap opera stories in lucha libre, but this barely qualified as a story.


This is a not a wrestling thing, but there were a lot of bad camera switches on this show – either times where they switched to a worse angle, or they stuck with a bad shot when they needed to switch. There’s been talk before about AAA running thru matches prior to the show to get the camera shots right, and both Jarrett showing up late and the match being changed around would have meant that couldn’t happen (or wasn’t as effective), but whoever was switching the shots here seemed surprised by usual things. The dive sequence near the end was butchered.

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Mr. Aguila trouble again, Electro Boy & Super Nova win El Protector

IWRG (SUN) 02/02/2014 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Cristal, Dama de Hierro (Mexico City), Látigo b Diosa Maya, La Sádica, Zurdog
First IWRG match of the year for the women.
2) Chico Che, Diva Salvaje, Miss Gaviota b Hijo del Fishman, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro
Fishman’s first match here since 2012.
3) Golden Magic b Oficial 911 [IWRG Rey del Ring]
Oficial 911 kept the point over recent rival Golden Magic. Second defense
4) Alan Extreme & Emperador Azteca b Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Centvrión, Dragón Celestial, Electro Boy, Imposible [El Protector, seeding battle royal]
5) Dragón Celestial & Relámpago b Centvrión & Hijo De Dos Caras [El Protector, quarterfinal]
6) Electro Boy & Súper Nova b Araña de Plata & Trauma I [El Protector, quarterfinal]
7) Atomic Star & Eterno b Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Imposible [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Eterno’s return from leg injury.
8) Emperador Azteca & Máscara Púrpura b Alan Extreme & Veneno [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Alan Extreme & Veneno, the actual IWRG tag team champions, lose in the first round to a team that’s never teamed before and may never team again.
9) Electro Boy & Súper Nova b Dragón Celestial & Relámpago [El Protector, semifinal]
10) Atomic Star & Eterno b Emperador Azteca & Máscara Púrpura [El Protector, semifinal]
11) Electro Boy & Súper Nova b Atomic Star & Eterno [El Protector, final]
Tag team partners collide! Both Eterno & Super Nova and Electro & Atomic are regular teams, and the younger guys are always wearing Eterno t-shirts. No one really wanted to do this match at first, but they eventually got into it. Super Nova beat Eterno & Electro Boy beat Atomic Star to win the tournament.

An atomicos with Nova/Eterno/Atomic/Electro would be a neat idea. They’ve already released next week’s card, and the rookies are in the tercera with other rookies from this tournament.

Mr. Aguila & Reapper beat Volador & La Mascara in Arena Puebla via faked foul, but the real story of the night was Mr. Aguila appearing to be wrestling in no condition again. Porra Fresa, on Facebook, notes Aguila’s bad performance and mentions Volador specifically blamed it on Aguila being drunk in a post match promo. El Popular seems to have a new person on the beat – they said Rey Bucanero was identifiable by his blue mask! – but even they noted the main event was bad and said the people turned on the match, rooting for Tirantes.

The Puebla lineup for next week has Aguila vs Volador (Aguila faked the foul to set it up.) Calling a guy drunk is a quite a way to build up next week’s show. CMLL seems to only sit out Mr. Aguila if he does this in a big match, so it’s possible he’ll be around for that match. And they don’t have any problem airing it, so it’ll turn up in about 2 weeks.

Lady Apache, Tania & Lola Gonzalez beat Miss Janeth, Rossy Moreno and Vicky Carranza in the main event of the all women’s show at Arena Lopez Mateos.

The best match on the Casanova promoted show in Monterrey this weekend was said to be Rico Rodriguez versus Ultimo Ninja. In an earlier match, Harry Boy looked like he could’ve suffered a severe injury taking reckless press slam to the floor from Dash, but he turned out to only be shaken up and suffered a wrist injury.

CMLL’s preview of tonight’s Nuevo Valores feud pushes 10th anniversary celebrant Guerrero Maya against Virus in the trios semifinal, teasing a mask versus hair match. That’s unlikely but please do it anyway. Main event is Rush, Titan and Rey Cometa versus Mr. Niebla, Felino and Barbaro Cavernario. Rush and Titan have teamed very rarely before this Nuevo Valores project, so I’m still suspecting a trios title defense every time they do – and the Peste Negra should have earned one by winning last week’s tournament.

Guadalajara has a Sombra vs Averno match tonight.

A DF show for 02/15 lists Mephisto vs Averno for the first time ever. I’m working on a project about singles CMLL matches (look for it next week?) and, as far as I can tell, that would indeed be the first time they’ve had a singles match. I can not imagine another promotion where two guys would successfully team for 13 years without ever breaking up or just being thrown against each for a one time gimmick match. (They have matched up in mixed sides tag matches.) I don’t think Averno and Mephisto should have a series of matches – who would possibly be the good guy? – but this has been an historically long partnership.

That show also has a Copa Tony Sugar, and DJ Spectro posted results from a 1959 Arena Coliseo show where Tony Sugar happened to be working in the segunda. Main event was Circulo Rojo losing his mask to El Rebelde; every name has been used by someone else first.

Guerrero Maya Jr. is giving away a mask to whoever sends in the best fan video or photo by Friday.

Cool photos of Dorrel Dixon, his gym and life.


CMLL (MON) 02/10/2014 Arena Puebla
1) Águila Egipcia, Meyer, Paris vs Akuma, Cholo, Guerrero Espacial
2) Black Tiger, Milenium, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Nitro
3) Stigma, Stuka Jr., Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Puma, Tiger
4) Diamante Azul, La Sombra, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Volador Jr. vs Mr. Águila

Uh, that’s the same lineup as last week except for the main event. Probably not right.

GDL Sunday?

01/31-02/02 lucha videos

Terra from Coliseo (Sunday) is still in baja quality. The alta recording came out 18 minutes shorter because of buffering issues, but I included it because why not. The HD recording came out 1 hour shorter. I did not include that.

No new IWRG; it was pre-empted by the Caribbean Series. There’s reruns this week but there’s no telling if they’ll actually air or be also pre-empted by baseball.

The one Noches de Coliseo match was actually a rerun so old I forgot it aired (and it didn’t have the dancing the first time.) Maybe the entire episode was a repeat from a year ago and that’s why they had the WWL commercial? That seems so possible.

YouTube Playlist: – seems low, maybe I forgot something?

02/01 WWC:
02/02 WWC:

02/02 Sobre el Ring:

02/02 La Lucha Se Le Hace:

CMLL on Terra: 2014-01-31
taped 2014-01-31 @ Arena Mexico
1) Stukita & Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Violencia & Pierrothito
2) Fuego, Súper Halcón Jr., Tritón vs Kamaitachi, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Marcela vs Dalys, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit

AAA on Televisa: 2014-02-01
taped 2014-01-25 @ Estadio de Beisbol, Guerrero Negro, Baja California Sur
Mini Chessman tribute
1) Faby Apache, Jennifer Blake, La Jarochita vs Mary Apache, Sexy Star, Taya Valkyrie
2) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Psicosis, Texano Jr.
3) El Mesías vs Fénix, Zorro, Silver King in a AAA’s Rey de Reyes Tournament match and in a tournament semifinal match
4) Cibernético, Jack Evans, La Parka vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Ozz, Dark Scoria

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-02-01
taped 2014-01-24 @ Arena Mexico
1) Máximo, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Misterioso Jr., Rey Escorpión – joined in progress
2) La Sombra, Rush, Shocker vs Averno, Mephisto, Negro Casas
3) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Niebla Roja, Reaper, Último Guerrero

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-02-01
Full Show:
taped 2014-01-21 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Fuego, Gallo, Magnus vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Bárbaro Cavernario, Nosferatu
taped 2014-01-26 @ Arena Coliseo
2) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
3) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-02-01
taped 2014-01-28 @ Arena Mexico
1) Flyer, Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Canelo Casas, Disturbio, Hechicero
2) Sagrado, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Vangellys
3) Delta & Tiger vs Cachorro & Herodes Jr. seeding battle royal
4) Black Panther, Blue Panther, Cachorro vs Cavernario, Herodes Jr., Mr. Niebla in a tournament semifinal match 
(both matches)
5) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger in a tournament semifinal match
6) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Cavernario, Herodes Jr., Mr. Niebla in a tournament final match (both matches)
Stellar Moments
7) Titán vs Virus for the Mexican National Welterweight Championship

Lucha Azteca (CMLL): 2014-02-01
Full Show:
taped 2014-01-17 @ Arena Mexico
1) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Super Porky vs Ephesto, Euforia, Pierroth
2) Estrellita vs Princesa Sugheit in a lightning match

3) Averno, Rey Bucanero, Terrible vs Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, La Máscara

CMLL on Terra: 2014-02-02
taped 2014-02-02 @ Arena Coliseo
Full Show Baja:
Full-ish Show Alta:
1) Bengala & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Magnus, Molotov, Sensei vs Artillero, Camorra, Súper Comando
3) Dragon Lee vs Hijo del Signo in a lightning match
4) Pegasso, Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Canelo Casas, Nosferatu
5) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger
6) La Sombra, Mistico, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión

CMLL Puebla: 2014-02-02
taped 2014-01-20 @ Arena Puebla
1) Águila Egipcia & Asturiano vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Metálico & Sensei vs Espíritu Maligno & Hijo del Signo
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Goya Kong vs Dalys, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit
4) Blue Panther, Super Porky, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pierroth, Pólvora
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, La Máscara vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
6) Shocker vs Rey Bucanero


CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-12-21


Tama Tonga is not nice!


taped 2013-12-13 @ Arena Mexico
Blue Panther vs Negro Casas in a lightning match: way more cut down on TV than I noticed (until I saw the clock at the end) – about three minutes loped off. Still a good match for the time, but the Terra match is the version you’d want. Finish still seems abrupt to me, it’s odd to see Panther lose so simply. It may be a coincidence, but it also looks like CMLL knew what they were doing with Negro the next few weeks (a plan!), as he gets a big win here going into the Leyenda de Plata and Volador feud. It may just be wonderful randomness too, but CMLL feels like someone’s thinking big picture lately. It’s so weird.

La Mascara, kind of a jerk

La Máscara, Rush, Valiente vs Tama Tonga, Terrible, Vangellys: By the numbers trios except for the Rush/Terrible segments. They didn’t start off well. Rush losing the first fall to a totally unconvincing Terrible dropkick was strange; I would think Rush actually got hurt, but Terrible hooks the leg like a real end of fall. They were much better together in the third fall, and their fights going away is the biggest downside to Rush ever turning rudo. (Terrible as a técnico seems doubtful.) This is the end of Tama Tonga’s 2013 run; he seemed a stronger rudo this time, but the feuds didn’t click as well as they should have. CMLL had two years of Lyger fall/winter visits and now two years of Tonga fall/winter visits; maybe it’ll be a new person in 2014, or maybe it’ll finally be the hair match.

psycho senton

Mistico, Titán, Volador Jr. vs Niebla Roja, Reapper, Último Guerrero: The effort to make Ripper look like a threat continues. It’s not helped when he screws up the big comeback spot and has to play random dead, and it’s not helped when it takes a mysterious second Ripper (never to be seen or explained) to give him the win, but I guess that’s the idea. Ripper’s crazy senton off the stage came out of nowhere. He needs to talk to Volador about timing those better, since he knows to wait in between falls to make sure nothing his happening. The other four guys were involved even less than the other four guys in the last match; there was one good Titan/Niebla Roja sequence and hopefully there’s more of that in 2014.

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2013 luchablog photolog data dump – 70s/80/90s lineups

Long time followers of the site, or maybe even long time follower of me on my internet, know what I’m actually good at doing. It’s not gathering relevant news accurately, it’s not having worthwhile opinions on wrestling (definitely not that one), and it’s not even recording things on my TV to put on the internet. My skills, such as they are, are “doing dumb stuff persistently over a long period of time.” I finished a project that required just that.

We were given an opportunity to photograph a ton of old lineup posters and magazines while in Mexico. I’ve spent the time since transcribing the photographs into text and pictures, and integrating that content into the luchawiki and the match database. There are a couple magazines I actually bought which I’m not sure I’ve added in yet, but everything else is in there. If you’ve seen something sourced as “luchablog photolog (some numbers)”, that’s what that meant. I’ve been also using the new data to fix the information I also have. There were 1,221 shows modified in some way, the vast majority of them added to the database.

I’m putting all that added information right here for download. All of those events have already been entered in the database and should be appearing on the various data pages, but this puts it in one easy place. I’m not sure if anyone besides a couple of German sites will use this information, but it exists for anyone to use in whatever way to can figure out.

I’ve done my best at trying to clean up the data, but there are surely mistakes. I’ve included match/event notes in the file. I haven’t included name/alignment metadata, because there’s not an easy way to express it and I’m not sure anyone else uses it. There probably should be some standard way to share all this information, but since I haven’t figured out what that is yet, this will have to do.

(There are plenty of errors – as I can now tell looking thru that file. Oops.)

  • if you’re going to write a post about what you’ve learned from lineups, you should probably write that post up when you’ve finished typing up the lineups, and not after you’ve added them to the database. It’s much fresher in your mind.
  • if ever you find yourself in a similar situation, where you have more magazines and posters available to you than time available – and you’re using a phone camera – I would recommend leaning towards photographing posters over magazines.The poster photographs were very successful; even if it turned out somewhat blurry, they were still big enough that I could figure it out. That wasn’t the case with magazines. I didn’t keep stats, but I’d guess maybe 4% of the posters photos were unusable, while 12% of the magazine photos were impossible to decipher after the fact.

    The other person taking photos did a much better job of taking photos, so it’s possible me or my camera were not good at this – though they smartly took photos of parts of pages while I tried to did whole pages. And the magazines are the only places where you’re going to find results, plus those full pages of cards which are such a great data mine

    We could’ve scanned things, but that would’ve taken much longer and we would’ve got a lot less done. (I’d really love to find a practical magazine scanner for my own collection, but have never had much luck.) The flip side of the blurry photos was the incredible speed and number of photos I was able to take – thanks to some awesome and very appreciated assistance, there were stretches where I was framing and snapping a new poster every 10 seconds. I might have been able to get a little better quality if I went slower, and I did help myself by starting to take a two shots at may posters, but I feel like we ended up with the most usable posters we were going to get.

  • Whoever decided that a standard poster should have the month, day, day of the week AND YEAR on it is among most favorite person in the history of the world. That person saved me so much time. There’s no obvious reason for the year to be there, except the handbills might have been posted or floating around for long enough to mistake one year’s for the next.A lot of them didn’t have it that way and working out the correct year was not impossible but often a struggle. Infrequent visiting foreigners were helpful. I had to take wild guesses on a few. Promotion affiliations are 90% my guessing. Promotions were (and are) downplayed on lineups, but top wrestlers associated with the promotions were pretty consistent. There were also other shows with both UWA and EMLL talent in the 80s, making any distinctions pretty pointless.
  • temerariosfor obvious reasons, a lot of the older info tends to be more UWA specific. Still, a lot of Mexico, Coliseo and other shows too. It was neat to find missing major building lineups, but I have this (perhaps disillusion) thought that someone’s kept track of all the Arena Mexico or El Toreo shows and that list will be shared with everyone at some point. We’re less likely to find similar items for shows out in the provinces, and so getting a piece here or there was always a good fine. I also saw the Los Temerarios logo so many times I almost put it on a magnet.
  • I am Team Arena KO Magazine. Definitely better than Box Y Lucha back in the day, better results, better lineups. (And all the Naucalpan info you want.) It is amusing and not all surprsing that Box Y Lucha’s Cartela section in the late 80s looks just about the same as it does today.
  • Villano II is the rarest Pokemon. Even when he was wrestling, he was not wrestling often.
  • We (and be we I mostly me “I”) treat it like a big deal when women are allowed to semimain or even main event major shows, as if it’s a break thru. It’s more of a return. Women’s matches were booked as such a big deal in 1987, after the ban on women wrestling in Mexico City was lifted. It didn’t happen as much in Arena Mexico, but they were booked as a hot new gimmick in B arenas – including plenty of arenas they could’ve been wrestling in before the ban was removed. The ban itself obviously hurt, but the surge in interest when the ban was removed was a nice silver lining. It didn’t sustain long but it must’ve been quite a time for those involved.On a lesser scale, you can see the same thing happen with the pre-mini dwarf wrestlers – they were around for a while, but got hot for a period as something different. You can see where an Antonio Pena might have figured they could do a lot with that type of characters if they were a bit more athletic.
  • Los Xaviers were the trio I was least familiar with who seemed to be booked the most. I remain confused by X/J being the same later and everyone who actually speaks Spanish is confused why I’m confused by that. Most set trios were usually just listed by the trios name, without specifying who was in that trio in the moment. It surely makes sense in context of the moment but becomes harder to decode after the fat. I spent considerable time looking up when the Arquero del Espacio changed members or figuring out what Los Tres Villanos happened to mean that month. (Usually 1/4/5, but these go back span enough to find 1/2/3 and recent enough for 3/4/5. Speaking of, Villano I was a guy who was around for a long time without a lot being written about him today.)
  • it’s crazy to see how busy things were in the 80s and early 90s. Sundays with shows in Arena Mexico, Arena Coliseo, Pista Arena Revolucion and El Toreo (all accessible from the DF metro!) were common. That’s a lot of fans going to shows and a lot of wrestlers getting work. There was a period of time where they were running Toreo multiple times a week; I find a lineup where they were adding Tuesday shows at this giant arena just to run the same Nuevo Valores shows CMLL is now running.
  • traveling thousands of miles to find lineups of shows a few miles (and a few decades) from my house was very weird.


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