CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-15 

no one’s more surprised about Dragon Lee’s dive than the guy who was supposed to catch him

Recapped: 08/18/15

What happened? Nothing.

What was good? Nothing. This was a totally skippable Tuesday show.

Where can I watch? This is all in the 2015 August Week 3 playlist. 


lucha TV preview for weekend of October 3rd


  • I’m less sure than usual with AAA. A five match taping is normally one TV taping, but this also had a long La Sociedad segment (and a dark match with locals they could use to fill time.) Heroes Inmortales airs next, so either’s it going to be on free TV six or thirteen days after it takes place.
  • CMLL on Azteca has the mask match. They should just air that. They should definitely not air the semimain match. Now that I think again, they’re actually much more likely to air Dark Angel/Princesa Sugehit.
  • I feel like this should have a third bullet point but I can’t think of anything to say. Puebla locals matches may be good? It’s possible I won’t be around to record Claro Sports?

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-15 


Recapped: 08/19/2015

What happened? Thunder is still not wrestling but appearing after the match to beat up Ultimo Guerrero. 

What was good? Nothing stood out.

Where can I watch? This is all in the 2015 August Week 3 playlist.  (more…)

Shocker versus Volador, FILL defeats Karaoui

photo by Black Terry Jr.

CMLL (TUE) 09/29/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) El Tapatío & Star Black b Demonio Rojo & El Gitano
Gitano replaced El Chakal. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Ráfaga, Raziel, Rey Trueno b Hombre Bala Jr., Magnum, Súper Halcón Jr.
Rey Trueno replaced Rafaga. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado b Delta, Fuego, Rey Cometa
4) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Super Porky b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
Tecnicos took 1/3, Atlantida on Rey Escorpion.
5) Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker b La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr.
Rudos took 1/3. Shocker snuck in a foul on Volador.

So it’s Shocker & Volador are feuding here, which means Volador is going to have one of those weeks with multiple singles matches soon.

IWRG FILL (WED) 09/30/2015 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Ángel de la Noche, El Bambio, Fly Tiger b Gafe, Sexy Girls, Skanda
2) Boricua & Vardeus b Blue Metal & Chicanito
Boricua may have replaced Magnum 44 (reports differ)
3) Choly Boy, Guerrero 2000, Vampiro Metálico b Adrenalina, Demetrio El Gladiador, Voltar
Demetrio el Gladiador replaced Super Jack
4) Acero, Alas de Acero, Aramis b Atomic Star, Galaxy, Kanon
5) Aeroman, Black Drago, Blue Monsther, Dragón Fly, Hijo del Alebrije, Matrix Jr., Power Bull b Ekxux, Guerrero Del Espacio II, Guerrero Del Espacio III, Magnífico II, Violencia Jr., Voltan,Xandao [Copa Higher Power]
Torneo FILL XLV: FILL (Black Terry) versus Team Heddi Karaoui. Picka & Freiser were listed but did not wrestle. Blue Monther was the first eliminated. Match came down to Aeroman & Magnficio, with Aeroman getting in a top rope Canadian Destroyer. Referee counted three, though it looked like Magnifico got his shoulder up at 2. Terry & Karoui argued after the match.

The next lucha libre licensing exam in Naucalpan may be on 11/24. IWRG’s been advertising it pretty heavily on their Facebook.

Heroes Inmortales will be a conventional PPV in Mexico. Prices are 259 for SD, 337 for HD. That’s more expensive than iPPV (190), but HD is almost the same price as the iPPV in the US (320).

Molotov explained he turned rudo because Lestat had been disrespecting him for weeks. I don’t quite remember it happening that way. I think it more confirms Molotov has no social media accounts because he wouldn’t turned rudo far soon with due to the disrespect he already gets.

Lucha Libre London – the London shows with Santo and Todo x el Todo – are said to be returning on July 1st and July 2nd of next year.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Apolo Valdes looks at what’s next for AAA & CMLL.

Criterio Hidalgo talks to Campesino del Valle about his career and Gotita de Plata about his career. Gotita first got in the ring at eight, though as a mascot for his family members.

Titan wants another shot at the Welterweight championship.

ESTO interviews Felino.

DTU announced an end of October/early November weekend tour of Veracruz.

Funcion Estelar interview Perro Negro Jr.

The lucha libre erotica on 10/03 show will charge 350 for general admission, 750 for ringside and 3500 for VIP room access. That last one is more than it cost to go ringside at the anniversary show, for a show with Canek Jr. & Huracan Ramirez Jr. in the main event. The person putting on the show is an adult film producer, and I don’t think it’s not really the wrestling they’re selling.


indy (THU) 10/15/2015 Auditorio Morelos, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
1) ?? vs ?
2) Aliado de Dios & Látigo vs Diva Salvaje & Miss Gaviota
3) Demoledor, Fly Metalik, Fly Warrior vs Centvrión, Emperador Azteca (IWRG), Metaleón
4) Dos Caras Sr., Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras vs Aeroboy, Máscara Año 2000, Súper Nova
5) El Patrón Alberto & Hijo De Rey Misterio vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Extreme Tiger

Not a TV taping and not something I’d ever expect to see results from, but obviously a little interesting with Alberto and Wagner on the same side. (The poster does the usual misleading bit to make you think it’s Rey Misterio Jr. in the main event.) It’s unusual to have this level of card in this building and Alberto hasn’t been working many indy shows in Mexico.

AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-15 

don’t yell at Flamita

Recapped: 08/19/2015

What happened? This was a lame duck show before TripleMania, but it did feature the debut (under a new name) of Fireball. It’ll still be a while before we figure out if this is a footnote or a meaningful.

What was good? That Fireball match was great and worth watching. Not just because of the guy normally known as Flamita either: if we ever get a full year of Steve Pain, he’d probably get some awards. The rest of the show was nothing special.

Where can I watch? It’s in my playlist, and it’s now up on AAA’s channel (as Puebla Parte 2).


great match roundup for week of 2015-08-15

Back to being hilariously/pitifully behind.

rating matches TV Show taped
great Fireball & Ludxor vs Daga & Steve Pain AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-15 2015-07-10
good Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. © vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto for the Mexican National Trios Championship CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2015-08-15 2015-08-09
good Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Rey Escorpión, Terrible CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2015-08-15 2015-08-09
good Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa, The Panther vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-17 2015-08-17
good Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala in a En Busca de un Idolo match CMLL on 2015-08-21 2015-08-21
good La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente CMLL on 2015-08-21 2015-08-21
ok Dinastía, Mini Drago, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba, Mini Charly Manson, Mini Psycho Clown AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-15 2015-07-10
ok Goya Kong & Niño Hamburguesa vs Carta Brava & Taya Valkyrie AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-15 2015-07-10
ok Aerostar, Argenis, Myzteziz vs Averno, Chessman, Cibernético AAA on Televisa: 2015-08-15 2015-07-10
ok Marco Corleone, Máximo, Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-15 2015-07-31
ok Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-15 2015-07-31
ok Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero vs Kráneo, Rey Escorpión, Ripper CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2015-08-15 2015-07-31
ok Acero & Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-15 2015-08-11
ok Molotov, Oro Jr., Robin vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-15 2015-08-11
ok Dragon Lee, Rey Cometa, Valiente vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Luciferno CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-15 2015-08-11
ok Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpión, Vangellys vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-15 2015-08-11
ok Aéreo vs Pequeño Violencia for the hair CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2015-08-15 2015-08-09
ok Star Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr., Zaeta Roja vs Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar, Metálico CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-17 2015-08-17
ok La Máscara, Máximo, Super Porky vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-17 2015-08-17
ok Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-17 2015-08-17
ok Shockercito, Stukita, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia CMLL on 2015-08-21 2015-08-21
ok Fuego, Rey Cometa, Titán vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado CMLL on 2015-08-21 2015-08-21
below average La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-08-15 2015-08-11
below average Dark Angel, Estrellita, Lluvia vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-08-17 2015-08-17
not rated Dragon Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Último Guerrero CMLL on 2015-08-21 2015-08-21

Rudos win in Arena Mexico, Triton/Cavernario, lots of lineups

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 09/29/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Artillero & Súper Comando b Flyer & Robin
2) Okumura, Sangre Azteca, Virus b Oro Jr., Star Jr., Tritón
Star Jr. replaced Esfinge on Saturday.
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
Estrellita’s bridging cradle appears to be called Star Gate.
4) Titán b Kamaitachi [lightning]
Titan won with his Mistica into a cradle in what was said to be a good lucha.
5) Hechicero, Luciferno, Terrible b Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr., Valiente
6) Ephesto, Mephisto, Último Guerrero b Dragon Lee, La Sombra, Máximo
Rudos took 2/3. Sombra got his team DQed in the second fall by fouling Ultimo Guerrero and the rudos took the third via some sort of cheating.

This week’s lightning match hasn’t been posted either. Maybe the concept’s been dropped? That would be disappointing, especially for that match. The finish isn’t exactly clear, but Dragon Lee & Ultimo Guerrero repeat next week. I do not want to see that match.

No results from Guadalajara (for Sunday or Tuesday), but photos indicated the luchadors visited the local CRIT hospital earlier in the afternoon.

TKD posted the missing Cadena3 show from September 16th, including the Cavernario/Triton title match.

Chilanga Mask announced Aramis versus Dragon Lee as the first match for their 10/25 Coliseo Coacalco show.

Matt D @ Segunda Caida liked Negro Casas, Barbaro Cavernario, Kamaitachi vs Dragon Lee, Maximo, Blue Panther from Monday more than most of us.

UNAM is sponsoring a lecture on lucha libre tonight. Admission is free

Cronicas Y Leyendas has some Babe Face rice.

Super Angel took Rayo Mortal’s in Xalapa.

Luchador Aeronix is also a Red Cross paramedic.


IWRG FILL (WED) 09/30/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Ángel de la Noche, El Bambio, Fly Tiger vs Gafe, Sexy Girls, Skanda
2) Blue Metal & Chicanito vs Magnum 44 & Vardeus
3) Adrenalina, Super Jack, Voltar vs Choly Boy, Guerrero 2000, Vampiro Metálico
4) Atomic Star, Galaxy, Kanon vs Acero, Alas de Acero, Aramis
5) Aeroman, Black Drago, Blue Monsther, Dragón Fly, Freiser, Hijo del Alebrije, Matrix Jr., Power Bull vs Ekxux, Guerrero Del Espacio II, Guerrero Del Espacio III, Magnífico II, Picka,Violencia Jr., Voltan, Xandao [Copa Higher Power]
Torneo FILL XLV: FILL (Black Terry) versus Team Heddi Karaoui

Today’s FILL show. I wonder what happened to Guerrero del Espacio I. I also wonder if this is maybe how Magnifico II found his way into Todo x el Todo – he trains with Karaoui, Karoui works for Santo, Santo needed a young guy replacement for Boby Zavala.

IWRG (SUN) 10/04/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Kanon & Omega vs Acero & Adrenalina
2) Leo, Miss Gaviota, Mr. Leo vs Demetrio El Gladiador, Hip Hop Man, Ram El Carnero
3) Freelance, Pantera I, Relámpago vs El Golpeador, Oficial AK47, Rayan
4) Golden Magic, Hijo del Pantera, Pantera vs El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible, Trauma II
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., Heddi Karaoui, Hijo De Dos Caras vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Negro Navarro, Trauma I

Heddi was definitely a rudo when we saw him last, is now maybe a tecnico? maybe an incredible partners main event? (In other IWRG makes no sense, last week had a tease of a Leo/Imposible feud and now they’re in different matches. I think they’re considered about having any sort of continuity.) Dr. Wagner Jr. and Mascara 2000 Jr. once were a key match on a TripleMania, true story.

Demetrio’s name only turns up once before, teaming with Hip Hop Man in Coacalco last week. Maybe he’s also from Argentina? Miss Gaviota needs to change the name to Miss Leo for one night only.

CMLL (TUE) 10/06/2015 Arena México
1) Leono & Sensei vs Akuma & Cholo
2) Magnus, Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Nitro
3) Astral vs Pequeño Violencia [lightning]
4) Estrellita, La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit vs Reyna Isis, Tiffany, Zeuxis
5) Blue Panther, Esfinge, Rey Cometa vs Disturbio, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
6) Dragon Lee, Rush, Titán vs Boby Zavala, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

Semimain Esfinge is strange, but not as strange as fourth match Reyna Isis. Not sure why Pequeno Violencia is in singles matches.

CMLL (TUE) 10/06/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) León Blanco & Neutrón vs Furia Roja & Ráfaga
2) Lluvia, Marcela, Skadi vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
3) Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
4) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker

Main event is a rematch of last night’s main event.

RUDOS NEZA (SAT) 11/14/2015 Calle Xochimilco 254, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Mike Segura & Rayo Star vs Freelance & Sky Man [Relevos Increíbles]
2) La Jarochita vs Felina Metalica, Keira [NWG DIVAS]
3) Belial vs Pantera I
4) Fly Metalik, Fly Star, Obscuro vs Metaleón, Toxin Boy, Wasson [Copa Rudo Neza]
5) Fly Warrior vs Mr. Leo, Flamita, Drastik Boy, Impulso

The Rudos Neza fan group are putting on their own show as eight year celebration. Mexico is different.

That’s the first Flamita date I’ve seen for November. Dragon Gate has a week break after their 11/08 show in Kobe; maybe that’s his exit date? Flamita’s was part of their tag team tournament (did not win!) but has sort of been extraneous since they broke up the Millennials. No one’s said he’s leaving and he’s still getting wins on shows but you can see as him finishing up if you’re looking at it that way. (Still won’t be sure he’s in AAA until he gets booked on two straight tapings.)

Puebla results, Tuesday preview

CMLL (MON) 09/28/2015 Arena Puebla [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Asturiano, Black Tiger, Rey Samuray b Espíritu Maligno, Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar
tecnicos took 2/3
2) Lestat, Soberano Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. b Molotov, Nitro, Policeman
Molotov is a officially a rudo, and got away with a foul on on Lestat as Policeman distracted the referee. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Puma, Sangre Azteca, Tiger b Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Blue Panther, Dragon Lee, Máximo b Cavernario, Kamaitachi, Negro Casas
tecnicos took 1/3 in a disappointing match.
5) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 2/3, Mephisto fouling Volador in the third. Marco (who was all friendly with Volador) and Valiente asked for a trios rematch for next week.

First match was a lot of fun and it seemed like we were headed to a fun Monday night. And then the rest of the show happened and that was not the case. Recap is a couple posts below. Feuds seem to be dragging out longer right now (after happening instantly or not even bothering to feud before the title match.) My theory here is they want to hold off the title match until after the Universal tournament because Mephisto/Volador can’t really happen until Volador’s out of the tournament, but that doesn’t explain the other programs. Nothing really explains how Marco is being used.

Molotov had a great chance to make a new impression and did not take advantage of it. Maybe next week.

The random trios match generator working for CMLL came up with Dragon Lee, Maximo and La Sombra versus Ephesto, Mephisto, and Ultimo Guerrero for today’s Arena Mexico main event. Titan versus Kamaitachi will be the lightning match, which sounds great, only they didn’t put up the lightning match last week. Guadalajara has La Mascara & Marco teaming with the guy they beat up Friday, Volador Jr., versus Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas and Shocker.

Konnan Big’s able to be back in the ring after his dramatic and bad fall to the floor back in July. That sounds good! Konnan Big says he still has blod clots in his brain and was hoping the match didn’t make them worse. That sounds bad!

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and this week’s PosterMania.

Box y Lucha 3206 has a Heroes Inmortales PPV.

Cara Lucha has a promo with Joker for his match with Wasson. I would guess many of the Cara Lucha fans had no idea who Joker was before this match was announced, since CMLL locals from Guadalajara don’t get a lot of notice in Mexico City.

Taya talks about her title match, says she has no rivals. The last year may have proven her point.

XMW canceled their mystery show.

Baby Puma took Paty Rey’s hair in Nuevo Leon.

Lucha Libre in Japan

Silueta overcame getting in a tug of war over her sombrero to win her first match in REINA over Koharu Hinata on 09/27.


CMLL (MON) 10/05/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Meyer, Milenium, Robin vs Ares, Guerrero Espacial, Metálico
2) Black Tiger, Rey Samuray, Soberano Jr. vs Espanto Jr., Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr.
3) Dragon Lee, Lestat, Stigma vs Kamaitachi, Molotov, Policeman
4) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) La Máscara, La Sombra, Shocker vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]

Tecnicos got their rematch, but in the semimain. Main event is Sombra’s first match in Puebla since being unmasked.

I think Espanto Jr. might not totally be awful now. That second match is a good chance to prove it, because everyone else is definitely not awful. Third match would have a better shot if Molotov did anything. Opener are the first appearances for Meyer and Milenium in the YouTube era.

CMLL Puebla: 2015-09-28 

Asturiano on fire

Recapped: 09/28/2015

What happened? Mephisto fouled Volador after a short main event. Challenges indicated a rematch next week. Molotov debuted on the rudo side and continues to feud with Lestat. Kamaitachi argued with Barbaro for about three seconds after their loss, thrilling those of us who are convinced Kama is losing his hair before going back and willing to overread into any hint of a new feud.

What was good? Opener was strong and parts of the tercera were very good. The big matches had a very rushed/mailed in feeling.

Where can I watch this? It’s up on CMLL’s YouTube channel already.