“Los Luchadores”, AAA taping date change, Konnan/Dorian

needed a GIF
needed a GIF, this is a good GIF

Pedro Ocadiz, the composer of the song “Los Luchadores”, passed away. If you’ve heard a lucha libre song, you’ve probably heard that one: “El Santo, Cavernario, Blue Demon, el Bulldog” is the lyric from the chorus, and it’s go to song for any news feature lucha libre in Mexico. SuperLuchas reprinted an interview with him from a few years ago; he mentions he didn’t know “Bulldog” was the name of an actual luchador when he put him in the song, he just needed a word that fit.

AAA announced the Pachuca taping would be moving two days later, from Sunday at the bull ring to Tuesday at Arena Aficion. There was a AAA spot show advertised for that day already, so maybe this is some deal to replace that. AAA hasn’t taped in Arena Aficion since the early 2000s, and it might be the smallest venue they’ll run for TV in a long time. It seems a little bit smaller than Arena Naucalpan.

They’re also now listing Mesias in the luchador surprise spot, teaming with fellow Team Trump member Hernandez against Dr. Wagner & Texano Jr.

In that same arena on Tuesday, Canek defeated Mr. Jack for the IWL Heavyweight Championship. The idea is it’s El Fantasma’s title, but he was too busy in his job of Mexico City lucha libre commissioner to remain champion. (He was on the show; he could’ve easily defended it and lost in the main event.)

Yesterday’s Lucha World Cup was adding Lady Apache to Mexican Women’s Team. They also announced both shows would air on Samurai TV in Japan on June 19th. The first round is listed as a two hour slot. Still no official word on it airing in Mexico or the US.

Meanwhile, Sexy Star said she’s not part of the Lucha World Cup and not to ask her why because she doesn’t know. I think we can all come up with reasons AAA may not want to use her but, to be be fair, she’s usually used anyway.

On Tuesday’s MLW Radio show, Konnan talked about Dorian near the end. As SuperLuchas put it, Konnan called Dorian incompetent, talking mostly about Dorian being first years on the job. Konnan said he’d find Dorian playing Mafia Wars or Candy Crush instead of taking his job seriously, or leaving the office to catch a movie. Konnan blamed Dorian for the terrible deal with Lucha Libre USA, including the money AAA had to pay to finally get out of it, and for putting out the DVD wiht Hijo del Santo – Konnan’s bigger point was that Dorian would’ve been fired long ago if he wasn’t a family member. Konnan claimed he wasn’t bitter about leaving AAA.

(Konnan’s case about Dorian being immature would’ve been slightly stronger if he didn’t take a bong hit during the podcast which some how caused him to disappear for about 10 minutes.)

The WON mentions Court Bauer says he was not forced to choose between MLW/Konnan and AAA/LU. (He also said it himself on his podcast on Friday.) He says it did come up, but they had negotiated around it – Konnan going silent on the rare times they’d talk about AAA/LU in recent months – and it wasn’t the reason Bauer left. Bauer’s been hinting about a WWE/NXT deal this weekend on Twitter.

This week’s CMLL Informa mentioned Diamante Azul has not yet returned from France and would be back next week instead. I’m guessing they meant on Informa itself, and he’d still be back for his matches this weekend (there’s got to be more than one flight a week from France to Mexico), but he may be replaced. The hosts also calmed down concerns about Arena Coliseo, saying CMLL would be back running Sabado Retros next week.

A CMLL recap of the breakup of the Ingobernables has La Mascara pointing out he always had always went against his family in the Ingobernables but Rush wasn’t willing to do the same. More interesting, the recap explains people hate Comandante Pierroth because they see only Norberto Salgado as the only real Pierroth (as if this new guy’s gimmick is officially being a Fake Pierroth, which definitely wasn’t the way it started.) Meanwhile, Rush & Pierroth talk about how no one’s tough like in the old days.

The WON mentions Dragon Lee is not expected in NJPW’s Super J tournament – that’s the two night tournament being held in July and August, not the one Volador is in starting this week. My impression has been other people are being looked at being used as CMLL’s representative.

Sagrado & Misterioso are unhappy Pierroth called them lazy and out of shape, and want to go after his mask. That’s probably not happening. In the same vein, Rey Escorpion on Informa said he was unimpressed with Dragon Rojo & Polvora; he’s probably the third Ingobernable with Rush & Pierroth.

Silver King, who promotes in Torreon, announced he’s going to run a Copa Junior Elite. It’s the Elite name and same weekly league format, but they’re doing 2 points for a win like the Japanese leagues Silver King has been in. He’s splitting it into two groups. Group A has Hijo del Ninja, Silver King, Hijo de LA Park, Hijo de Fishman, Gran Kalifa Jr., Halcon Suriano Jr. and Stukita. Group B has Shocker, Dr. Wagner Jr., Hijo de Dr. Wagner Jr., Hijo del Espectro Jr., Hijo de Dos Caras, Hijo del Medico Asesino, Antrax Jr. It’s all the problems of the Elite tournament plus putting AAA & CMLL guys against each other plus doing it Torreon where many of those guys don’t live. And, it’s Torreon, where no one writes about results of shows, so it’d be tough to get over the concept even if everything else worked out. (It’ll probably not come up again.) They’re hoping for the final in September.

Leo Riano says Hijo del Fantasma’s injury was a fractured vertebra and a herniated disk. He’s due back in a month. He would’ve had a hard time getting into WWE with those injuries.

LigerFever translated Hechicero’s appearance on Divinas de la Lucha in five parts: one two three four five (or all in one part)

Segunda Caida reviews Rush versus Negro Casas from Elite.

Eric reviews last night’s Lucha Underground.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Aerostar was announced for AAW’s show on June 17th. That’s the same one with Drago/Chris Hero, and I’m betting they have a good opponent in mind for Aerostar too.

Pentagon Jr. will face ROH’s Raymond Rowe on 06/10 in Arlington, Texas.

Lucha Underground 2×17: Crime and Punishment

Moth Power
Moth Power


Daga [O] beat Máscarita Sagrada [X], Kobra Moon, Argenis (4:58, Thunder Rosa sit down Air Raid Crash→Daga elbow drop , OK)

Killshot beat Marty the Moth (7:08, storm cradle driver, good)

Chavo Guerrero [O] beat Aerostar, Texano, Joey Ryan [X], the Mack, Marty Martinez, Sexy Star (8:32, Cage Drill Claw->pin, good)


not sure how much longer Mascarita can survive Famous B's management
not sure how much longer Mascarita can survive Famous B’s management

Chavo Guerero is the new Gift of the Gods champion without having even won a Medallion match. Chavo was able to use Cage’s stolen Medallion after tricking Cage into stealing back a medallion sized washer instead. Dario ruled whoever place the Medallion in the belt got entry into the belt, so Cage was out of the match. There was no clear favorite in the match, and everyone eventually teamed up to take out Chavo, only for Cage to walk into the match and destroy everyone but Chavo. Chavo won the match and is indeed the Gift of the Gods champion – this week, and maybe this week only, since Cage revealed Dario had already given him a shot against the winner for the belt next week.

Marty tried confronting Killshot before their match, and ended up on his back. The match was no different, with Killshot pulling out his finish in an even match. Marty took this badly, attacking Killshot and taking his dogtags.

on target
on target

Kobra Moon was more interested in flirting with Daga than winning the match, even giving up the likely winning pin so Daga could take it instead. Daga didn’t appear too interested in anything besides the win.

Vampiro’s “recovery” strategy for healing Pentagon appears to be hurting Pentagon so much that he becomes immune to pain. This week, Vampiro hit Pentagon first with a cane, then a barbed wire bat, as the show ended.


The grades are all about the same, but Marty/Killshot was the best match of the night for me. The others had a few highlights that gave some value for them, these two guys did the best of putting together a match. They clicked well together with a few really impressive spots – Marty catching the dive looked really good, and Killshot’s offense looked sharp. The post match felt a little hammy but obviously the feud must continue.


The fans didn’t seem particularly into the Gift of the Gods match or rooting for any particular person to win, which hurt. They really seemed into the concept at Ultima Lucha. This match was left as a collection of big spots, some cute, but it didn’t overall feel on the level of the other massive man matches they’ve done. Chavo winning was a groaner, and can only salvaged by Cage destroying him next week. There’s decent hope of that – we are a long way from episode 2 LU lead rudo Chavo.

The four way was as good as it could’ve been expected to be when the random selection of people (and Daga & Argenis were better at working with Máscarita than most people they could’ve picked.) Not sure what to make of Kobra Moon & Daga, though between it and Joey & Sexy in the main event, we had two intergender “fights” that turned into something else.

My first thought when this was over was to check my notes and figure out how much longer we have of these Pentagon Jr./Vampiro vignettes. They are not working for me. Pentagon will get built up at the end, as everyone does, but they’re taking him way down before they get there. And the Ian/Vampiro thing is just all over the place’ maybe the idea is he’s now Vampiro all the time but pretending to be Ian at the Temple, but I’m not sure and I’m not sure I care all that much. I’d like to just get back to seeing Pentagon in the ring, soon.

This was one of the weaker episodes of the season; it’s felt like a lot of setup for things they’re going to payoff later, and the payoff episodes are the much better ones. There was nothing terrible on this one, but not a lot worth going back and checking out.

officer down
officer down

UG/Stuka & Panther/Skandalo in Mexico, LU preview, LWC

Titan ramp dive
Titan ramp dive

CMLL (TUE) 05/17/2016 Arena México [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Demus 3:16 & Mercurio b Aéreo & Último Dragóncito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:32. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Metálico b Flyer, Metatrón, Robin LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:51. Rudos took 1/3. Metatron replaced Star Jr.
3) Soberano Jr. b Sangre Azteca [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:23. Soberano won via small pacakge.
4) Blue Panther Jr., Oro Jr., The Panther DQ El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:31. Straight falls, with Skandalo feuding with Panther and unmasking him in the second fall.
5) Bobby Z, Mephisto, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:39. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Máscara Dorada, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:17. Tecnicos took 2/3. Ultimo Guerrero bullied Stuka, Stuka beat him in the end.

This show died in the first hour and never really recovered. Skandalo losing his mask to The Panther as a retirement makes some sense on paper, but I’m not sure I’d like to see that two month feud. There wasn’t much of an indication they’re going that way, CMLL just has no real reason to do a Skandalo feud except for him to lose his mask right now.

Ultimo Guerrero has a championship and Stuka makes as much sense as a challenger as anyone, but there were no challengers. Like Monday night in Puebla, the main eventers just got out of there as quick as possible without saying anything.

There is no ELITE show today. They’ve moved to Saturday, at least for the moment. Today, Press Conference Wednesday, would make sense for an ELITE press conference to explain what’s going on, but there’s no sign of one happening.

Today’s Lucha Underground episode is “Crime and Punishment”, the 17th of the season. Matches on the show

  • Daga vs Kobra Moon vs Mascarita Sagrada vs Argenis
  • Marty the Moth vs Killshot (teased by this extra promo)
  • A Gift of the Gods match

There’s a preview vignette that starts to address the Cage/Chavo issue over who has a Medallion.

Over at Roster Resource, they list all the Lucha Underground luchadors sorted by tiers of importance. There’s no one they rank in tier one in a match tonight. There’s only a couple people in tier two. This show features the a lot of the bottom half of the roster by any measure, with people who’ve only lost feuds or haven’t been put in them. It doesn’t mean the show will be bad – people given opportunities usually do pretty well on Lucha Underground – but it’s interesting to see if the ratings reflect the lack of star power or if the week to week variance is shown to be more random noise than actionable information.

Eric has a preview of the show.

Rey Mysterio & Johnny Mundo were at the Univision upfront yesterday, taking photos with invitees. Univision owns 5% of El Rey and they appeared to be the (sole) representatives from the channel, but there was no news about the channel. Univision itself announced a deal with Netflix, but maybe not the one you’d expect: the TV network will be airing Netflix’s originals Club de Cuernos (soccer drama) and Narcos (drug drama) after they’ve aired on Netflix. Mysterio’s been doing press for Lucha Underground all week: this twitlonger post has links to his interviews with ESPN & SI.

AAA announced the third women’s team for the Lucha World Cup: a Team Canada, with Taya, KC Spinelli and TNA’s Allie. “TNA’s Allie” actually appeared with that name for the first time a few minutes after she was announced on the team; she debuted with the new name on last night’s TNA show, and is better know on the indies as Cherry Bomb. (She’s married to “TNA’s Braxton Sutter”, also better known as Pepper Parks, and it’s possible he’ll end up on one of the men’s teams.) Spinelli, like Taya, is a Lance Storm trainee who appeared on the World of Hurt reality show and has wrestled in Canada and in the US for women’s promotions.

Seven of the twelve teams are now complete. It seems like the LWC strategy is to announce a new name or trio every evening to keep people talking about it. Tonight would be a good night for the US people from Lucha Underground or Rey Mysterio’s team.

There’s also an AAA interview with Fabi Apache talking about wanting new challenges and the tag titles being that challenge.

TNA announced Tigre Uno/Extreme Tiger has signed a new contract. There’s no details. There’ are reports TNA is trying to sign their wrestlers to exclusive contracts, which might mean he’d be prevented from working ELITE or elsewhere in Mexico. It wouldn’t be in Tiger’s interest to sign a deal like that – he’s working a lot more in Mexico than he is in TNA due to their limited schedule – so there must be something else going on.

Psicosis II/Ripper took Infector’s mask in a cage match in Estado de Mexico on Sunday.

Caristico, Negro Casas and (a) Hijo del Rey Misterio defeated Rush, Mr. Elektro, and Fuerza Guerrera in Monterrey by DQ, when Rush unmasked Caristico. The DF trio of Flamita, Metaleon, and Golden Magic beat the northern trio of Laredo Kid, Ultimo Ninja and Ninja Jr., and the two teams fought post match suggesting a rematch. The Arena Coliseo Monterrey matches are airing on about a two week delay, so those matches may air the weekend of May 28th, but it’s always subject to change with Monterrey.

LuchaWorld has an interview with Oriental.

Apolo Valdes writes about intergender wrestling.

Llaves and Candados say they’re back on 06/26 in Monterrey. They’re teasing Rush versus Konnan Big, without using either name.

Casandra talks about her title defense this weekend.


IWRG (SUN) 05/22/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Astro & Rocket vs Galaxy & Hip Hop Man
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Emperador Azteca, Hijo del Alebrije
3) Dinamic Black vs Cerebro Negro
4) Imposible © vs Freelance [IWRG IC Light]
Imposible 13th defense
5) Danny Casas, Hijo De Dos Caras, Ultramán Jr. vs Electroshock, Fuerza Guerrera, Toscano

Electroshock is listed under his AAA name, which is probably a mistake. Ultraman and Fuerza haven’t been here for a while. Imposible has been here for a while, and is giving Freelance a second chance in a row. Tercera is a prelude to a title match if Dinamic Black can win.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-05-06 

Volador has no time for Cavernario's silliness
Volador has no time for Cavernario’s silliness

Recapped: 05/16-17/2016

What happened: Rey Escorpión seemed to cause problems between La Mascara & Rush, but was dumped to the side at the end. The first two matches had botched finishes due to referees counting unplanned eliminations, and the third had a pointless DQ.

What was good: The semimain was the best match, with some of the undercard derailed by the bad finishes (and the main event hurt by feed issues.)

Where can I watch it: It’s on rockerGamer30’s channel. (more…)

CMLL Arena Mexico: 2016-05-17 

He's back
He’s back

Recapped: 05/17/2016

What happened: Both Skandalo/The Panther and Ultimo Guerrero/Stuka feuded, though it’s unclear if either of those are meant to have a shelf life past this show.

What was good: Nothing really stuck out as good. There were stretched of good stuff in the later matches, but there was a lot of boring wrestling around it.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s Youtube channel. (more…)

Marco defeats Rush, Hijos del Infierno & Tortuga Ninjas still champions

still champ
still champ

CMLL (SUN) 05/15/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Esto es Lucha GDL, Fuego en el Ring]
1) El Diplomático b Micro
2) Fugaz & Johnny Dinamo b Carlo Roggi & Mr. Apolo
3) Capitán Cobra, Cosmos, Reyko b Gitano, Linterna, Relámpago
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Kempo Dragón & Príncipe Kisho b Gallo & Vaquero Jr.
Sinaloa outsiders took 1/3. Kisho was eliminated, but pulled Gallo’s mask from the outside and Kempo got the pin. Kempo’s normally a tecnico and noted they didn’t win cleanly, but still wanted a shot at Gallo & Vaquero’s Pacific Coast tag titles, held by Vaquero & Gallo.
5) Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Ráfaga DCOR Joker, Maléfico, Sádico
Team Joker took fall 1, Team Rafaga took fall 2, and both sides battled outside after dives for the very rare main event draw.

Not even sure last time a show ended with a draw. Esto es Lucha GDL notes Kisho & Dragon got in trouble with the boss of the Sinaloa luchadors about something they did here. I guess it could just be part of the storyline about the cheating, but it doesn’t read that way.

IWRG (SUN) 05/15/2016 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Adrenalina & Fireman b Aramis & Atomic Star
2) Avisman & Hip Hop Man b Astro & Omega
3) Dinamic Black, Emperador Azteca, Freelance b Cerebro Negro, Killer Jr., Trauma II
straight falls. Trauma II replaced Herodes Jr. Dinamic Black wants a shot at Cerebro Negro (for the title he never lost), but Cerebro wants a super libre match first
4) Leo, Mike, Rafy © b Factor, Rayan, Spector [EdM Trios]
first defense
5) Canis Lupus, Danny Casas, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Hijo De Dos Caras, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Trauma I
Trauma I attempted to give Canis Lupus a martinete again, but Lupus fouled him and got the win. Everyone fought post match.

They’re going somewhere with the heavyweights feuding, but not sure where. No next card announced yet.

CMLL (MON) 05/16/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Akuma & Espanto Jr. b Black Tiger & Millenium la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:12. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Hombre Bala Jr. & Star Jr. b Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
17:51. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Astral, Eléctrico, Shockercito DQ Espíritu Maligno, Mini Joker, Saurón la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:08. tecnicos took 2/3. Sauron beat Astral, but decided to keep putting holds on him until he was DQed. Sauron wants a minis title shot.
4) Boby Z, King Jaguar, Kráneo b Fuego, Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr. la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:24. Rudos took 1/3. King Jaguar & Bobby Z replaced Morphosis & Olimpico, Soberano (in a plain black mask & Mephisto’s pants) replaced Super Porky.
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © b Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. [MEX TRIOS] la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:24. Hijos del Infierno took 1/3, the last with Mephisto beating Angel de Oro. 4th defense.
6) Marco Corleone b Rush la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:32. Rush won the first, got intentionally DQed in the second, and was beat in the third.

So, we have to have an unhappy conversation about Rush. We don’t even know if there’s something going on with Rush, so the unhappiness could just be getting concerned about something that’s not existent, not true. Still, Rush losing cleanly to one friend Marco here, the end of the Ingobernables setting up a singles match with Rush’s other friend La Mascara, and (at least) a short term run getting team with his father can be interpreted as Rush checking items off his CMLL bucket list, not so different from La Sombra’s single matches before he left town. It does not mean Rush is going to WWE, but it’s a possibility now worth considering as things go forward. It’s seems like something happened in the last month, with the Maximo/Marco vs Rush/Mascara program seemingly swapped out for Mascara/Rush, and an offer to go elsewhere is one of many possible reasons.

I don’t claim to know anything about this – I was very wrong about the trios title change last night – but I’m just pointing it out as something to keep an eye on.

(There’s not even any point in really asking Rush about it, because Sombra insisted there was nothing to him going to WWE until the day he showed up in Florida, though Rush deserves the chance to deny rumors all the same.)

Tonight’s CMLL main event is a reunion of Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero, best tag team of the early 2000s but mostly having gone separate ways for the last decade. They team with Gran Guerrero to take on Stuka, Mascara Dorada and Volador, in Volador’s final match before heading to Japan. Dragon Lee is listed as returning to action, after a 23 day injury break, teaming with Blue Panther & Guerrero Maya Jr. versus Mephisto, Vangellys and Bobby Z.

The fourth match includes the Dinamita kids (Sanson & Cuatrero) teaming with Skandalo against Oro and the panther kids. Soberano, probably in his own mask and gear this time, takes on Sangre Azteca in a lightning matches. The segunda match, with Flyer, Robin and Metaleon against Arkangel, Metalico and Canelo Casas and the opener, Ultimo Dragoncito & Aereo vs Demus 3:16, & Mercurio, don’t seem to offer much new or interesting, so maybe you’d like to tune in a little late. (Edit: Wait, Metaleon? That’s new. He’s in for Star Jr.) The show itself is scheduled to start at 7:30pm, and stream on CMLL and YouTube.

Kronosport posted Lady Maravilla’s message about leaving AAA, and it’s not totally clear if she left AAA or if AAA let her go after reading it. (Also, Facebook translates róster to rooster, which is not correct but definitely funny.) She was only rarely used on TV, as AAA have moved away from doing may all women matches. I think they’re down to Taya, Faby Apache, Mary Apache, Lady Shani, La Hiedra as regular, with La Hechicera working occasional house shows, Keira occasionally listed on shows and very occasionally working those shows, and Sexy Star technically employed.

Maybe Lady Apache too, since she’s at least in for the Lucha World Cup. Her photo isn’t on the website, but she talked positively about her participation with +LuchaTV in a video posted today. Could be as simple as they haven’t gotten a recent photo to use yet – they need the green X-Men gear. She’s going to have a busy weekend if her team makes the final: Saturday in Puebla, Sunday in San Francisco for PWR and Sunday back in Mexico City.

Blue Demon was officially added to the Mexico Leyendas team. It’s strange whatever deal needed to be done wasn’t done in time for the press conference last Wednesday, and that the name wasn’t held off until whatever thing they’re doing to announce the rest of the show, but it won’t make much of a difference. LA Park has some thoughts about another member of that team: “if La Parka is a legend, I’m a super mega legend.” (La Parka says he’s not a legend.)

+LuchaTV has an interview with Bobby Z, Dragon Rojo and Polvora hyping themselves as a great trio, so maybe Rey Escorpion really is going with Rush & Pierroth and those three are the Revolucionarios now. Or maybe they’ll change their mind next week. Polvora’s beard is out of control.

There’s also a Mangifico & Templario interview when they say they’re from Ultimo Guerrero’s school, so Magnifico II is training with the same guy as his brother. Maybe Magia Blanca hasn’t been used yet because they’re waiting for Magnifico II to get approved to debut? (But then, no one’s of the trainees are going anywhere.)

A Lucha 2000 interview with Tiago, the ex-Mini Charly Manson, includes him mentioning that he’d be open to fighting minis, but wants to move to the normal division.

El Pancracio has a few articles on Kato Kung Lee: a 2006 interview about his career (his name came about from a EMLL programing department screw up), about his struggle with illness for the last years of his life  and about him being honored at the latest Expo Mascaras.

Chairo 4 06/19 Arena Naucalpan
1: Impulso vs Freelance, hair vs hair

LuchaWorld has this week’s KrisZ’s news update and this week’s PosterMania.

Box Y Lucha is offering discounts for renewals. I finally renewed my subscription yesterday. I could’ve saved $16 if I had waited a few hours.

Sololucha is selling Lucha Underground merchandise in Japan. It looks like mostly the same stuff as in the US, so they’re just importing it.

Lucha Underground Executive Producer Eric Van Wagenen’s other show, the Apprentice, returns in January 2017. LU episodes seem to be finished (with all the extra work done after the live event is finished) a few weeks before they appear, but I wonder if they’ll just keep going and finish off many season 3 shows this fall so Van Wagene can shift to the Apprentice when that show airs.

WillyWanka has a highlight package of Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner.

Kcidis draws Los Ingobernables breaking up.


CMLL (MON) 05/23/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & Astro vs El Malayo & Guerrero Espacial
2) Oro Jr. & Soberano Jr. vs King Jaguar & Policeman
3) Astral vs Saurón [lightning]
4) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
5) Dragón Lee, Titán, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
6) Atlantis, Carístico, Negro Casas vs Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy, Mephisto [Relevos Increíbles]

Astral/Sauron don’t have their title match, but do have a singles match. Main event has some interesting combinations, and the top three could all be good matches.

new video releases for weekend of May 14-May 15th

it's a Copa Higher Power week
it’s a Copa Higher Power week, so I can just pick a random spot in a video and find a GIF

YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYyNnOBGWP7Slbrn-14UC0p3IdEuf4w5R

This might be the last week of mediafire links. They’re discontinuing their desktop sync client in July, and their web upload client has always taken about 10-15x longer to upload files. I’m considering moving to Mega.nz unless someone has a better idea. (I’m using Dropbox for other uses and don’t want to mix these files on there.) I’m unsure of when I’ll switch, but it doesn’t make sense to keep putting them up on the service I won’t be using.

I subscribed to Mediafire a year, so the links will continue to work until January. You can always ask for the videos or download them off YouTube after that point.

There’s more Azteca HD episodes below, and I added some late last week if you missed them. Kamaitachi/Dragon Lee was 3 GBs alone.

I missed out on most of this week’s AAA episode; it aired much later than usual on one channel I record, and not at all the other. The PROESA episode was a repeat. The IWRG show started early, but it seemed like we caught most of the match. (more…)

CMLL Puebla: 2016-05-16

still didn't work
didn’t quite work

Recapped: 05/16/2016

What happened: Marco Corleone defeated Rush in the main event (though Rush gave away the middle fall with a DQ.) Hijos del Infierno kept the trios titles.

What was good: The main event was the best match on the show, with the two prior make it just past the good line for me.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube now, and will be on 52MX a couple weeks from now.


05/29 AAA TV Lineup (Pachuca)

AAA TV (SUN) 05/29/2016 Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
1) Atomic Boy, Dinastía, Pimpinela Escarlata, Venum vs Apache, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown, Soul Rocker
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs La Hiedra & Taya
3) Aerostar, Drago, Fénix vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin [#1 Contenders, AAA TRIOS]
4) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Damián 666, Halloween, Nicho el Millionario
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Texano Jr. vs ? & Hernandez
6) Psycho Clown vs Pentagón Jr. vs Pagano

Air Date:  06/11 & 06/18

AAA has a spot show in the same city two days later. That’s an unusual scheduling choice. I suspect that other show might be quietly rescheduled.

Also, the TV show revealed Verano de Escandalo will take place on 06/19 in Monterrey. That’s a little bit of an interesting choice in venue, since some of the guys in Monterrey AAA might go to for help for local promotion are now doing a podcast with Konnan. Maybe everyone can just work together amicably.

They stopped putting the silhouette that gave away the mystery person! Now maybe just stop doing mystery person? It probably should be Cage or Mesias and it’d be odd for them not to just be listed. Still seems like they’re headed to Wagner/Parka/Texano vs Team Trump, which doesn’t seem like a big match for a PPV main event. (Maybe a six way instead?)

The finish in the third match feels telegraphed by Averno & Chessman already having an opponent for the tag titles. Xinetez/tecnicos should be good the second time. I don’t like La Hiedra’s odds in the second match, or Argenis’ crew in the fourth match.

Pagano probably should be getting a Latin American championship shot by beating Psycho Clown – and Psycho seems like the odd man out by winning his feud with Dr. Wagner, so maybe he’s a long term part of this feud

Other quick AAA notes:

  • the tickets for Puebla 06/03 Lucha World Cup first round are running 220 to 1210 MXPs ($12 to 66 USD). Show listed as starting 8:30pm, which means it’s going to be a very late night.
  • the Mexico 06/05 Lucha World Cup final has a start time of 4pm. That’s early for an AAA show.
  • There’s a nice look back at AAA 1992 posters, as part of a piece writing about the 24th Anniversary of the promotion. Dorian Roldan mentioned to +LuchaTV that AAA is planning for something big for the 25th Anniversary. That’d be a change; there’s no bigger difference between the two promotions than CMLL building it’s whole year to it’s birthday and AAA typically just mentioning their own relatively quietly. (But getting 1992 posters is cool to me.)
  • Edit: Kronosport says Lady Maravilla quit AAA. Her Facebook is mostly friends only, so I don’t see a message saying that but it’s probably there.

It’s unclear if there’s another taping between this show and Verano de Escandalo; it really depends on if they’ll be airing the Lucha World Cup as part of normal TV. It feels like there ought to be another one, because the Verano de Escandalo card doesn’t feel like it’s taken shape much at all, but we’re also a month away from the show in real time. Might as well take one guess at the card:

random mixed tag
random other match
Los Xinetez (c) versus Aerostar, Fenix, Drago for the AAA Trios Championship
Averno & Chessman (c) versus Faby Apache & Mary Apache for the AAA Tag Team Titles
Psycho Clown, Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagon versus Pagano, Nicho, Damian, Halloween
La Parka, Dr. Wagner, Texano Jr. versus Hernandez, Cage, Mesias

Again, it’s missing a big match; it feels more like a TV taping than a major show. Maybe something will happen yet.

05/14 AAA TV Results (Orizaba) – Psycho Clown added to LWC

photo by AAA

AAA TV (SAT) 05/14/2016 Plaza de Toros La Concordia, Orizaba, Veracruz [AAA]
1) Faby Apache, Mary Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata, Venum b Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Mamba
Unlisted bonus match; may air. Faby & Mary got the win for the team.
2) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown b Daga & Joe Lider
Nicho cost Joe Lider the match, with Murder Clown getting the win.
3) Psycho Clown b Ricky Marvin, Nicho el Millionario, Hijo de Pirata Morgan [Lucha Libre Victoria World Cup qualifier]
Winner joins Pentagon Jr. & Texano on the AAA team. Dropped to the third spot. Psycho Clown came out before the match, asked Marisela to be in the match, and was granted a spot. Nicho beat Pirata and Psycho, and Psycho beat Nicho with help from Daga & Lider. Pagano threatened Psycho after the match.
4) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Taurus b El Elegido, Garza Jr., Niño Hamburguesa
Taurus beat Hamburguesa with a superplex.
5) Hernandez & Zorro b La Parka & Texano Jr.
The Xinetez attacked Texano at the start of the show, with Zorro saying they were allied with Team Trump. Parka made the save. Hernandez was the mystery person (and presumably part of Team Trump as well.) Texano beat Zorro, but still refused to be friends with La Parka.
6) Averno & Chessman © DQ Argenis & Australian Suicide [AAA TAG]
3rd defense. Rematch from the last taping, which had a controversial DQ. Averno tricked Copetes into DQing Argenis again. Avenro issued an open challenge to any challenger, but was dismissive when Faby & Mary unexpectedly accepted the challenge.
7) Pagano b Psycho Clown [hardcore]
Pagano won with a Spanish Fly thru a table on fire and a heel ref.

Air Date: 05/28 & 06/04

It’d be disingenuous to complain about the results for this taping because it wasn’t like I was all that interested in the lineup either, and they simply did what you’d assume they would do for the show. Even Psycho Clown being added to the World Cup qualifying should’ve been figured out ahead of time, since there was that Record article listing the trio originally in the qualifying match, and the three guys put in the match never really made sense. (It leaves the selection team as Texano, Psycho Clown and Pentagon, as close as they can get to repeating last year’s team with Hijo del Fantasma out of action.)

AAA’s pushing the main even as one of the most impressive matches of the year. The photos and text show it to be what you’d expect from Pagano, and something along the lines of Psycho’s recent matches with Dr. Wagner. Those matches haven’t worked for me and I suspect this won’t be anything different, but AAA seems invested in Pagano to a higher level than most of the people working there, and they might as well let him do his style of match if they’re in on him. I don’t have much issue with the result and it sounds like it might have been the usual heel referee meaningless outcome anyway.

The Twitter live post mentioned the tag match ended in DQ. It’s not mentioned elsewhere, so I’m not quite sure how Averno & Chessman pulled it off. It’s strange to do a match with a confusing DQ, then do a rematch with a DQ, and that’s apparently the end of the feud. (If you can’t beat Argenis, who can you beat?) The Faby/Mary challenge will go fine, could possibly just be a solution for Angelico & Jack being out, and makes sense given they’re treated as so more important than the other woman. That, not intergender, feels like the bigger long term problem here: there’s exactly three women around who are taken seriously, AAA won’t book any of those three women against each other in titles matches (for reasons), and so it’s nothing but meaningless tag matches. It’s no different than the CMLL minis division, except AAA’s women division has people who are actually over (Faby, Taya) so they might as well pull them into places where that overness is useful. It’s good they came up with an idea, but it’s a problem they’ve been unable/unwilling to get anyone other woman over to face them, or to just have them face off.

The pro-intergender message here does fall a little flat in the greater context. It’s hard to make the case Faby & Mary should be able on the same level as the men at the same time as the same promotion is running a tournament where the women (including Faby & Mary) and men are specifically being kept separate from the men.

(Again, I’d guess this is just something to fill a spot for Verano de Escandalo. Maybe, in theory, they’re thinking this as a way to save bigger matches for TripleMania – but since all the regular midcard AAA feuds seem to get pushed to the side for the guest stars at TripleMania, it seems unlikely to be going that way.)

Apache didn’t annoy Venum. Maybe they forgot. Maybe we’ll never know why this is happening. Not sure if there’s four matches one of these weeks, or if they’ll just make on a UTDN/YouTube exclusive.

Next taping is – the next post, actually.