TripleMania Twitch notes, IWRG

IWRG (WED) 08/23/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Dinámico, Dranzer, Puma de Oro b Bambino, Fly Tiger, Kraken
2) Guerrero 2000, Tromba, Voltan b Fireman, Príncipe Mexica, Príncipe Omi
3) Fly Star, Voltar, Vórtize b Adrenalina, Araña de Plata, Keshin Black
4) Celestial Boy, Chicanito, Odín, Shadow Boy b Black Puma, Lunatik Xtreme, Orión I, Orión II
5) Acero, Súper Brazo Jr., Warrior Jr. b Alas de Acero, Hijo Del Bombero Infernal, Kanon
6) Ángel Oriental, Aramis, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Dinamic Black, Power Bull, Skanda b Aero Boy (Arena 23 De Junio), Centella Salazar, Danny Barrio, Homerito, Payachucho, Richy Beda, Último Conde, Xcorpio [Torneo FILL]
Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Cuautitlan (Robin Maravilla). Black Dragon beat Xcorpio for the win.

Gym FILL gets a win after losing a couple of these to Indy Nation. I wonder if a year long league of these school versus school matches would generate some interest; 6-8 schools, maybe everyone gets home and home and a big winner at the end. It requires way too much organization for indie lucha libre to ever actually happen.

Very close to calling this Aero Boy “Fake Aero Boy” just to make my life more amusing.

Kevin Gill and Gabriel Ramirez will be the English language announcers for TripleMania. Ramirez runs Pro Wrestling Revolucion in California. Gill calls those shows, other wrestling promotions, and also is part of Konnan’s podcast. I’d expect they’ll be professional announcers, a step up already, but I have no idea about their product knowledge. TripleMania’s big matches aren’t hard to get up to speed, but it’s a deceptively tough show to call – the Torneo Triplemania will have roughly a million people involved, and even I’m not claiming to know all the people in the La Llave a La Gloria matches. The ladder match has 3 people involved, but about 8 different angles and a bunch of people who could run in for different reasons. Prepping foreign language announcers is not a big priority for any wrestling promotion, so I hope they’ve done their homework.

The Twitch event page for TripleMania in English has a couple of unexplained details about the lineup. The La Llave a La Gloria competition will be two matches. (With 14 people, maybe that’s an atomicos and a trios.) Pagano vs Mesias is listed as an Ultimate Consequences match, whatever that means. The main event seems to have a little more consequence. Even that lineup doesn’t know who’s going to be the GFW team.

They also have a list of matches scheduled to air on the marathon. This is the list, but hold up after reading it

  • Triplemanía I: Perro Aguayo vs. Máscara Año 2000, mask vs hair
  • Triplemanía IX: Hijo del Perro Aguayo vs. Héctor Garza Vs Heavy Metal vs. Latin Lover
  • Triplemanía XVII: Dr. Wagner Jr. vs. El Mesias – AAA Mega Championship match
  • Triplemanía XVIII: La Parka vs. L.A. Park – Winner uses “La Parka” name
  • Triplemanía XXI: Cibernético vs. Hijo del Perro Aguayo, hair vs hair
  • Triplemanía XXII: Taya vs. Faby – Reina de Reyes Championship match
  • Triplemanía XXIV: Psycho Clown vs. Pagano, mask vs hair

Ok, now that you’ve scrolled past the list, know that’s probably not the full list. AAA says it’ll actually be a top 20 TripleMania matches of all time marathon, which means a lot more matches will be airing and probably none of them in full. There are some weird picks up there, but if they’re breezing them in about 90 second each, it doesn’t matter as much that you’re showing a match where La Parka got clowned.

The preview makes it sound like the English announcers will be calling these matches too, which hopefully will be taped in advance if true or they’ll have a gigantically long day.

AAA announced Aida Cuevas will sing the national anthem at TripleMania. She’s a famous Mexican singer who also has a new album coming out a couple days after the show.

Lucha Underground is now available on DVD and BluRay – in Germany, only. Lucha Underground’s Facebook current says Ultima Lucha starts on Wednesday, September 23rd. There is no Wednesday, September 23rd. They mean the 27th. El Rey announced some new programming which starts Septmber 5th, but there’s still no word on Lucha Underground’s future.

Vampiro, King Cuerno and Drago were added to the October Tokyo AAA/LU shows. AAA still has not acknowledged these shows as happening.

Puma, Misterioso, Soberano and Fuego had a match in a tiny ring at a bartending contest. The match starts about 24:00 in.

Low Ki is still being advertised as coming in for the 09/02 The Crash show, which may not turn out to happen. He seemed to be coming in thru GFW, only he’s not in GFW any more after the latest set of tapings.

The REINA International Junior championship – the one Keyra had – will now be decided in Japan in a match on 09/15 between La Jarochita and Kaho Kobayashi.

Real Aero Boy talks about how got into lucha libre.

CultIcon continues his best of TripleMania countdown.

Segunda Caida has a quick review of Terrible Cererbos vs Ninja Turtles.

The new edition of AAA Zona Ruda has the Perros del Mal as guests.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-19 

thanks for coming, Pimpinela

Recapped: 08/21/2017

All matches were taped from Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon on 07/16/2017


Australian Suicide, Mamba, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown beat Bengala, El Elegido, Estrella Divina, Marty The Moth
(10:47, Murder Clown splash Elegido, ok, via luchalibreaaatv
gif: 1412/2100

Kevin Kross beat Máscara de Bronce
(1:26, Kross exploder suplex, n/r, via

gif: 3126/3217/3320

Argenis, La Parka, Psycho Clown beat Averno, Chessman, Dr. Wagner Jr.
(9:13, Psycho Clown torito Chessman, ok, via

What happened: 

Suicide seems to be doing well

There’s frequent promos for Wagner/Psycho airing on Televisa. Dr. Wagner was unbothered by the loss, and unmasked Psycho Clown for the umpteenth time. He got off pretty easily, maybe it’s all the practice.

The Kross/Bronce segment starts with Pimpinela being brought to be praised for her 30 year career and her win over Mamba. Pimpinela barely getting to talk before Kevin Kross attacks her. I have no idea why. Mascara de Bronce runs out face Kevin Kross, and of course gets knocked down to start the match. Pimpinela rolls out of the ring and ceases to exist. Kross only takes offense from Bronce when he’s not paying attention, and eventually just no sells a tope. He kicks the (new) ref after the match too.

Bronce gets tossed

Divina & Mamba were friends last time we saw them, but are enemies here. Marty was a rudo when we’ve see him. Elegido gets the only noticeable crowd response. Not sure what causes Bengala to bleed early, but he spends the match with it coming of it his mask, and Suicide rubs it all over himself during the early beatdown. This matches ten minutes and then, after trying hard to win the match, Marty attacks Elegido from behind for no particular reason and the match ends about 15 seconds later.

Noti AAA had Vampiro raving about La Llave a La Gloria and all the positive feedback of his changes, and Psycho Clown meeting with players on Club America.


Suicide springboard DDDT

This was a rather nothing happening show to be the last show many people will see prior to TripleMania. They did the token Wagner/Psycho feuding in the main event but that didn’t even come off as a big deal. The other matches had nothing to do with anything going on Saturday. This is a great test case for nothing really mattering, because they did nothing here.

The main event was an ordinary trios match, with La Parka seemingly getting as much time as Psycho Clown, though they did get around to Psycho/Wagner at the end. It didn’t feel as big as it should, but I supposed it doesn’t really matter at this point. Averno & Chessman stooged well for Parka – it’s like working with a less mobile Super Porky, Averno has this down. Psycho’s looked good and was pretty over, there just wasn’t the anticipation moments when he and Wagner were in you’d expect for a big match. Argenis was also there.

Mascara de Bronce is on the wrong ride

Kross/Bronce was not really a match in the usual sense. Kross just squashed Mascara de Bronce in a way where Bronce is pretty exposed as nothing more than an unimportant object for Kross to toss around. I wish they would’ve done more to make Kross more interesting before they decided to make him the top rudo or their version of Brock Lesnar on their roster, but there we are.

The atomicos seemed to be a dare to see what would happen if they dropped Marty in the weirdest possible match. He did far more teaming with Elegido against the Clowns than you’d expect, but maybe it makes more sense if you knew it was just a setup for Marty to attack Elegido. This also felt pointless and not very good. Suicide & Bengala were very good against each other, even though Suicide should be about half blind with his bandanna pulled down to Gedo levels. The exoticos were OK, but this match is a waste of time.

Lucha Underground 3×32: The Cueto Cup

this destroyer is good only because of Prince Puma’s sell


Sexy Star and Veneno went to a no finish in a mask versus mask match (0:51, whatever)

Prince Puma beat Pentagon Dark to win the Cueto Cup (9:34, 630 senton, good)

Johnny Mundo beat Rey Mysterio to retain the Lucha Underground championship (18:04, fin de mundo, good)


bad times for Mundo

Johnny Mundo is still Lucha Underground champion. Dario Cueto banned all people on the “roster” from participating. The concept of a set “roster” in Lucha Underground is hard to fathom, given the owner didn’t even know who Veneno was last week and Matt Striker referenced Super Fly disappearing from the show. In this case, that very special word choice meant Dominic could show up to get some revenge on Mundo before being chased away by security, and that Dario himself pulled out the ref to cost Rey the match. They wasted no time with Rey getting his revenge, but Mysterio landing the 619 on Cueto left him open for a Mundo belt shot, and Mundo landed the find the Mundo a moment later. Striker sold this as a travesty.

Prince Puma defeated Pentagon Jr. in a competitive match to win the Cueto Cup. Vampiro celebrated with Puma after the match, making their private alliance very public. Vampiro rooted for Puma during the match. By virtue of these outcomes, Prince Puma will face Johnny Mundo for the championship as the main event of Ultima Lucha 3.

The Sexy Star/Veneno match barely got going before Joey Ryan ran out, and ripped off Veneno’s mask. The announcers focused on Veneno being exposed as Ricky Reyes, and not about a DQ being called. Referee Justin Borden was busy with Sexy Star and didn’t see the mask being removed. Borden  did appear to very quickly (thru editing) count Reyes out, and that’s likely how the result that occured in the building. Striker, in an obviously post edited line for TV, instead said the match was thrown out. His later lines talking about Veneno/Reyes as if he had lost the match and his real identity needed to be announced were left in. Reyes beat up Ryan, but Ryan got in a foul and escaped with the Veneno match.


nice reversal into the backbreaker

Lucha Underground usually delivers on big shows. They failed tonight.

The Sexy Star/Veneno segment was outrageously terrible, just a thumb to the eye of the viewer. There was no reason for it to be a mask match, just like there wasn’t really any reason for Johnny’s whiny heel agent to call Sexy Star’s title reign terrible. They know why they did what they did, but it came off like they were still ticked off about the reactions to Sexy Star’s title reign and the Sexy Star/Super Fly and decided to take it out on everyone else. They delivered a “mask vs mask” match which was among the most ill considered segments, up there with the Angelico/Ivelisse match. At least with that one, they realized what they had enough to try and tone it down in editing (didn’t work). This one could’ve been fixed easier. It would’ve been only a few minutes instead of an aggravating bit if they edited out the mask vs mask stipulation, but instead we were treated to a booking tantrum in the place of actually good wrestling.

(This was the first time Dario Cueto was acting way out of character; the Dario Cueto of the last three seasons would’ve have let a mask/mask match end without a finish, and he would’ve humiliated Cortez himself. It also made no sense for Joey Ryan to go out of the way disrupt this match when he and Dario were the ones who came up with it. This didn’t make any sense.)

Pentagon & Puma was good, and would’ve been a nice treat as a random match in the middle of the season. They got in a lot of big spots, the crowd was totally into it, and they got a decent amount of time. The match was good, and probably would appreciated even stronger out of context. There were problems with it in context; it didn’t feel like a big match, a tournament final at all. Finisher kick outs are over done in general, but this was definitely the time for guys surviving something beyond what they normally do, and what we got instead was the normal build up to a normal finish. Puma winning clean and as fairly as season one with the 630 senton didn’t really fit the long and incessant story they’ve been telling about Puma falling under Vampiro’s spell. There needed to be something underhanded, something that compromised him or justified his new outlook, like using the cement block on Mil Muertes, but he instead just won the same way he would’ve won before the skinny jeans, and the angry man who’d been breaking everyone’s arms quietly walked away. It felt wrong.

(Striker and Vampiro had a very bad night, but this also feels like one of those things where complaints only get them to push back harder. Lucha Underground is intensely loyal to people who were with them from the start and I don’t expect any change if there’s a season 4, but I also think they’d be crazy to keep going with these two.)


The title match was a really solid match between two guys who work together well. Mundo comes off as a champion here and Rey put in a really strong effort for his biggest match on the show so far. It went a bit long; it probably would’ve helped both matches if they took a few minutes out of the middle of this one and tacked it on the end of the Cueto Cup. The production wasn’t at their usual level; both big Mysterio dives were shot in ways where it was hard to see what was going on, at least on the SD version I get. And then that finish.

Nothing about it made sense. Nothing about earlier made sense: why would Johnny Mundo want interference banned when he wins all his matches by interference and none of the técnicos ever interfere in his match? Why would Dario ban Worldwide Underground if he wants Rey to lose? Why would Dario scheduled Rey in the first place in the title match if he didn’t want him to win the title, and then wait 15 minutes to cost him it? Why did he lecture Matanza about letting go of his hunger for revenge on Rey and then attack Rey? I’m sure some of those things will be answered in the next few weeks, but I’m guessing not a lot of it will.  The answers to those questions are going to have to overwhelmingly satisfying to make up for the very unsatisfying finish to a match that’s been built to for months. And it’s going to have to make up for the usual heel owner bit, making Dario a lot less interesting in the process. There was nothing they were building towards, nothing they were paying off with this finish, just the usual played out swerve for the sake of doing a swerve.

(And, this is another reason that Sexy Star/Veneno match was so dumb. If you know Mundo/Rey is going to have a disappointing finish, the last thing you need is another terrible ending earlier in the show.)

The storytelling on this show was bad. The work in the matches was generally really good, and people defending this show will point to that work as a reason not to trash this show. There’s also the reasoning to wait and see how this will pay off. I’m in no danger of not watching the last handful of episodes here, but we’ve waiting nearly three months for this and the pay off really wasn’t worth it. This show has done a great job of elevating the wrestler’s performances with their story telling on other shows, but they let them down on this show.

how this show felt

great match roundup, week of 2017-08-12

wrestling is crazy

Six recaps in a week either feels likes I’m making progress or feels like I have too much time.

this week

Lucha Underground has two slightly disappointing matches and they’re still among the best thing this week. Standards are different.

I finally broke down and added more IWRG stuff to watch, just as soon as the other IWRG stuff was actually watched. I’ve got a The Crash show lined up next – though not sure how I’m going to work it in this week.

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Prince Puma vs Fénix [Cueto Cup] and in a tournament semifinal match Lucha Underground: 2017-08-16 2016-06-11
good Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker for the AAA World Trios ChampionshipAAA Worldwide en Monterrey Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-12 2017-07-16
good Princesa Sugehit © vs Zeuxis for the Mexican National Women’s Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-14 2017-08-14
good Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-14 2017-08-14
good Drone vs Puma in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 15 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-15 2017-08-15
good Pentagón Dark vs Mil Muertes [Cueto Cup] and in a tournament semifinal match Lucha Underground: 2017-08-16 2016-06-11

Other things watched (sometimes really fast)

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © for the AAA World Tag Team Championship AAA - Cuervo y Escoria vs. Texano y Fantasma - 16 de Julio 2017 (posted by Luchamania Monterrey)AAA Worldwide en Monterrey Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-12 2017-07-16
ok Fiero & Retro vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 15 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-15 2017-08-15
ok Astral & Robin vs Cholo & Espíritu Negro LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 18 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-18 2017-08-18
ok Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 18 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-18 2017-08-18
ok Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs La Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 18 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-18 2017-08-18
ok Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr. in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 18 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-18 2017-08-18
ok Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Ephesto, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 18 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-18 2017-08-18
ok Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 18 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-18 2017-08-18
below average Sexy Star vs Faby ApacheLa HiedraLady ShaniGoya KongBig Mami in a AAA’s Reina de Reinas Tournament match AAA - Sexy Star nueva Reina de Reinas, Ataque Kevin Kross - 16 Julio 2017 (posted by Luchamania Monterrey) AAA Worldwide en Monterrey Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-12 2017-07-16
not rated Millenium & París vs Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella RojaLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-14 2017-08-14
not rated Espíritu Maligno & Lestat vs Disturbio & Metálico LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-14 2017-08-14
not rated Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Sam Adonis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-14 2017-08-14
not rated Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles matchLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-14 2017-08-14
not rated Metatrón, Oro Jr., Star Jr. vs Canelo Casas, Nitro, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 15 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-15 2017-08-15
not rated Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 15 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-15 2017-08-15
not rated Blue Panther, Carístico, Titán vs Luciferno, Mr. Niebla, Pierroth LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 15 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-15 2017-08-15
not rated Mistico, Rush, Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 15 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-15 2017-08-15
watch later Alas de Acero, Aramis, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Dinamic Black, Eterno, Golden Magic vs Fly Star, Fly Warrior, Fulgor I, Fulgor II, Glenn Calavera, Jerry Calavera, Mr. Leo, Séptimo Rayo [Copa Higher Power] Indy Natión vs IWRG ¡¡¡ TORNEO FILL COMPLETO !!! (posted by Estrellas del Ring)Indy Nation vs IWRG (rematch) from IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-12 (posted by thecubsfan) IWRG vs Indy Nation, Copa High Power en la Arena Naucalpan (posted by IWRG tv) IWRG vs Indy Nation, por la Copa High Power en la Arena Naucalpan (posted by +LuchaTV) IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-12 2017-08-09
watch later Emperador Azteca © vs Arez for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship Emperador Azteca © vs Arez for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship (posted by thecubsfan) Emperador Azteca vs Arez CAMPEONATO WELTER INTERCONTONENTAL DE LA IWRG (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Emperador Azteca vs Arez, Campeonato Intercontinental Welter (Resumen) (posted by mluchatv)Emperador Azteca vs Arez, Campeonato Intercontinental Welter en IWRG TV (posted by iwrgtv) Emperador Azteca vs Arez, Campeonato Intercontinental Welter IWRG (Lucha Completa) (posted by +LuchaTV) IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-12 2017-08-09
watch later Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera EMPERADOR AZTECA ES VAPULEADO POR EL HIJO DEL PANTERA (posted by hector godfrey) Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera (posted by thecubsfan) Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera, en IWRG TV (posted by IWRG tv) Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera, IWRG Arena Naucalpan (Lucha Completa) (posted by +LuchaTV) IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-15 2017-08-13
watch later Black Dragón vs Gallo Frances for the mask Black Dragon vs El Gallo Francés, máscara contra máscara en IWRG (Lucha Completa) (posted by +LuchaTV) Black Dragon vs El Gallo Francés, máscara vs máscara en IWRG TV (posted by IWRG tv) Black Dragón vs Gallo Frances, mask vs mask (posted by thecubsfan) Gallo Francés vs Black Dragón ¡¡¡¡ MÁSCARA vs MÁSCARA !!! (posted by Estrellas del Ring)LE QUITO LA MÁSCARA AL EMPERADOR AZTECA AL GANARLE EL HIJO DEL PANTERA (posted by hector godfrey) LUCHA MASCARA DE BLACK DRAGON Y MASCARA DEL GALLO FRANCÉS EN LA ARENA NAUCALPAN (posted by hector godfrey) IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-15 2017-08-13

TripleMania to air for free on Twitch, huge Lucha Underground episode tonight

Mistico doing the other Mistico’s plancha

CMLL (TUE) 08/22/2017 Arena México
1) Apocalipsis & Cholo b Bengala & Sensei LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca b Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Starman LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Drone, Fuego, Stigma LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
rudos took 1/3
4) Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3
5) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Valiente b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
6) Último Guerrero b Mistico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
UG took 2/3, using the ropes to win the third fall

I’ve only seen the main event, which was good. The rest of the show got better than usual reviews.

They appeared to have Tirantes wearing a body camera on the show. Maybe highlights will turn up later. The referee cameras haven’t turned out well in the past, but those have been higher up (like glasses) and maybe a different angle will make it work.

It sounds like the Guadalajara bus broke down on the way back to Mexico City.

CMLL has an introduction to Flip Gordon. The Anniversario match will be his first match in CMLL.

TripleMania on Twitch

Twitch & AAA announced TripleMania will air on the streaming video platform on Saturday for free. They’re going to do seven hours of a live show, with both Spanish and English commentary. The show will began at 5pm Central Time with a 2 hour pregame show (a “best of TripleMania” marathon.) The show is scheduled to start at 7pm CT and run until midnight.

The Spanish language stream:

The English language stream:

No one is specifically mentioned as English language announcers. There’s also no word if the show will be live only, or if will be available to be watch after the fact. It’s possible with Twitch and it’s also definite that someone (not me) will upload the thing to YouTube the moment it’s done anyway, so I’m assuming it’ll be an option.

(a quick What Is Twitch aside: Twitch became famous as a super popular video game streaming platform. They restricted it to only games for a while, and have started to open it up to other types of programming in the past year. That means wrestling program is so novel that this announcement has been picked up by places that don’t cover wrestling like Engadget and Venturebeat. You do not need a Twitch account to watch the video, you just need to go the page and it’ll be normal streaming video. If you have some device which casts video to your TV, you probably can do that with Twitch as well. Twitch streams may include commercials and ads, and AAA may make some of the money from them.)

(a quick schedule aside: Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner is scheduled to happen after Mayweather/McGregor. The idea is to let people in Mexico see both on Televisa, and so will you if you choose so.)

The preshow bit is a Very Good Thing. I don’t know that you or I actually need 7 hours of TripleMania (or of any wrestling show), but I love the idea because it gives them two hours to make sure the feed is actually running before something new actually happens. We’ve seen problems in that area many times before and any precautions are great news. AAA could really use TripleMania being a good show, in the ring and in the presentation.

As part of their tapings, GFW mentioned TripleMania (or highlights) will air on Impact at some point.

Lucha Underground

Lucha Underground 3×32 has “the Cueto Cup”. This is not a season finale, but it is one of the bigger shows in the history of the show

  • Sexy Star versus Veneno in a mask vs mask match (clip)
  • Pentagon Dark versus Prince Puma in the Cueto Cup final ((clip)
  • Rey Mysterio versus Johnny Mundo (c) for the Lucha Underground Championship

The winner of the Cueto Cup final will face the winner of Rey/Mundo on Ultima Lucha. The people who’ve seen the mask match have indicated expectations should be set very low. I have not seen this episode (though I believe it did make it to torrents this week), but I did see a clip from a vignette in Dario’s office which will convince you it was taped in the last few months, not last year.

Look at that list of names again: the two biggest ex-WWE stars on the show are having a match, the two biggest “homegrown” stars are having a match and their most favorite female star putting up her mask. Sexy Star/Veneno hasn’t really gotten more than 10 seconds of attention (they weren’t even part of last week’s brawl), but Mysterio/Mundo and Pentagon/Puma have had nearly 3 months of build. It’d be tough to draw up a bigger non-Ultima Lucha one hour TV show.

I’m not a really big believer in the importance of the week to week Lucha Underground ratings. The numbers are so low that most of the week to week variation is more about the margin of error than what happens. (That’s why they get tossed off with a single tweet and not mentioned here.) Still, if Lucha Underground is every going to pop a number based on a show, it’s this show: it’s got big names, a good build and is coming off a hot segment to end last week’s episode. No one’s knows the definite future of Lucha Underground, and one rating number shouldn’t define it’s future, but this does seem like a situation where really good viewership might be a point in favor of continuing and a disappointing number might lower the value people are willing to pay for a season 4.

Lucha Underground t-shirts are now available on Walmart.

Other News

Reforma has a video of Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner hanging out in Cancun the last couple of days.

Pagano was on Record duty today. Pagano, Fantasma and Texano did not appear on last night’s Impact tapings, the last of the set. Which was weird, since the AAA wrestlers would’ve worked well on a taping being marketed as Latin Night. I’m thinking they must’ve have flown back to Mexico yesterday, either for press or for a walkthru.

Revista Sidi has an interview with former DTU/Queretaro luchador Money Pack. He was doing well with the group until disappearing after 2010 and only returning for a few matches. The article reveals he was traveling to get English lessons, feeling that he should learn because he had a chance to wrestle internationally, only to be hit by a taxi and break many bones in his foot. He’s clearly frustrated with those who still have the opportunity to wrestle but don’t put in the same effort he believes he would’ve given.

Roberto Figueroa makes the case that weird matches like the upcoming Revolucha main event (Huracán Ramírez, Mistico II, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Jeff Jarrett, MVP, Sam Adonis) draw a lot of interest. This might be right, I hear there’s a weird fight on Saturday that has some interest. But it’s going to be so bad.

DTU announced changes to their card on Saturday. Crazy Boy & Halloween are part of Torneo TripleMania, so Black Fire and Aeroboy have been added to the card to replace them.

Todo x el Todo put their entire poster for their 09/23 Tulancingo show, but hasn’t actually listed

The Gladiatores interviewed Pimpinela, Mr. Aguila and Halloween at the AAA media day.

LuchaTalk has RobViper as a guest to preview TripleMania.

The latest +LuchaTV podcast has Dr. Wagner Jr. & Sharlie Rockstar as guests. They mention Kojima is sticking around after the Gran Prix, thru the Anniversary show.


IWRG (SUN) 08/27/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Celestial Boy vs Power Bull
2) Demonio Infernal, Hijo Del Bombero, Shadow Boy vs Lunatic Xtreme, Skanda, Toxin
3) Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera
4) Bombero Infernal, Chico Che, Leo, Rafy vs Eterno, Gallo Frances, Internacional Pantera, Kanon
5) Danny Casas, Golden Magic, Villano III Jr. vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Trauma I, Trauma II
6) Mr. Electro vs Villano V Jr. [IWRG IC HEAVY]
2nd defense

That main event – well, match three in the Azteca/Pantera sequence look sfun.

CMLL (TUE) 08/29/2017 Arena México
1) Fiero & Sangre Imperial vs Grako & Templario
2) Astral, Pegasso, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
3) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
4) Titán vs Pólvora [lightning]
5) Dragón Lee, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Rey Bucanero
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Pierroth, Rush

Another promising looking Tuesday card. Titan & Polvora have been great before.

CMLL (TUE) 08/29/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mágico & Neutrón vs Relámpago Azul & Thunder Boy
2) Oro Jr., Robin, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Metálico, Raziel
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
4) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Sam Adonis vs Shocker, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Juice Robinson, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin

One last appearance for the foreigners here before the Gran Prix.

TxT (SAT) 09/23/2017 Palenque de la Feria, Tulancingo, Hidalgo
1) ? vs ??
local luchadors
2) Ángel Blanco Jr. © vs El Bandido (Indie) [WWA WELTER]
3) Crazy Boy, Fishman Jr., Rayman vs Canek Jr., Cien Caras Jr., Heddi Karaoui
4) El Dandy, El Hijo Del Santo, Mil Máscaras, Santo Jr. vs El Hijo del Solitario, Satánico, Silver King, Silver King Jr.

Full card for Hijo del Santo’s celebration of 100 years of his father. El Dandy has been lured out of retirement one again. Bandido is getting all the title matches, which speaks well for him, but I assume they’re saving that title change for Santo Jr.

This show was originally supposed to be in Mexico City, in the city square Zocalo. It sounded like Hijo del Santo couldn’t get a deal done, but they could’ve found another venue to hold it if they had to have it in Mexico City. I wonder if there might also be a desire to keep holding off Santo Jr.’s debut in the capital, because reviews of his performances still are not strong.

2017 watch later catch up, part 5 of ∞

definitely a Copa Higher Power

This turned it an “all Naucalpan, all the time” group – mostly because I’m way behind on adding indie matches to my watch list.

Trauma I & Trauma II vs Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
(IWRG, 04/23, 19:27, ok, via

I didn’t get much out of this one. This match was trying to be a lot od different, a technical first fall, brawling later on, and it didn’t feel particular good in any way. It didn’t feel like there was much drama most of the way, though finally unlocked near falls in the end. It was a slower worked match and they tossed away the second fall in a fashion more like CMLL. This was more about establishing the champs as for real by having beat the team everyone in IWRG thinks is the best, and it seemed like it was a fun match in person based on how everyone reacting, but there’s better matches to watch with everyone. This was not bad but wasn’t interesting.

Terrry gets the pin easy

Negro Navarro beat Zack Sabre Jr.  
(Lucha Memes @ Naucalpan, 04/28/2017, 15:37, arm trap hammerlock neck crank, excellent, via

It Took forever for me to get to this match but it was worth the wait. Navarro/ZSJ worked on a simple level of two guys with similar idiosyncratic styles but from different backgrounds figuring out what they could do with and to each other, and it worked on a slightly more complex level of Sabre coming to Mexico and meeting an old man who can confound Zack at the game he thought he mastered. Touches like ZSJ thinking about grabbing the ropes but refusing – he’s not going to lower himself to that sort of easy out because he’s sure he can find a way out like he always does until he’s so frustrated by Navarro that he does it without thinking. This plays out like the wrestling version of the young chess grandmaster going down to the park to glorious destroy everyone, only for an old man to school him. ZSJ’s fit after the match is him knocking the chess pieces to the ground in disbelieving anger over what just happened, while Navarro is just having a fun time grappling. The emotion they show is just as well executed as the holds.

Special credit should go to the production here; all the handhelds are appreciated but these matches look so much better professionally shot. The intricate stuff both men were doing would not have come across as well off someone’s phone in the first row. You need to get I tight and you needed to see everything. JMG’s comparing one of ZSJ’s hold to an amazon snake constricting the life out of Navarro was a great visual metaphor.

The second toughest part of this match was deciding where to put it; I’m think it probably won’t make my top 10 at the end of the year but I liked it a lot. The actual toughest past is, as with many Navarro matches, trying to figure out what to write down as the hold he used at the end.

always time for back bend submissions
how did he not dislocate his shoulders
cradle out of nothing

Climax vs Aramis
(Arena Naucalpan, 05/03/2017, 7:40, good, via
IWRG tv)

I picked this one out to see Aramis but this turns out to be much more of a Climax exhibition. He takes most of the offense, with some nice agile spots and unexpected judo spots, if that’s even the right martial art. He was using Aramis’ momentum against him, which is an interesting idea for lucha libre, and cranking his arm while covering him. Aramis was faster and smoother, but both guys can probably flesh out what they’re doing a little better. Aramis’ chained northern lights suplex looked cool, but just stopped with Climax blocking it in a way that made it look like nothing had happened. Aramis’ submissions at the end came off as harsh. Nothing earth shaking here but a nice exhibition of what this Climax could do, before he disappeared back into the void.

Climax escape
Aramis tope con giro

Freelance vs Eterno
(IWRG, 05/05, 8:35, good, via
IWRG tv)

The Freelance exhibition matches seems to be fewer and fewer in IWRG as time goes by, but this was a thoroughly enjoyable one. Eterno is just here to make sure Freelance almost but never quite dies, while Freelance takes all the scary backdrops and crazy dives they can do. There was a headscissors spot that looked both very cooperative and still insane. There was Freelance maybe suffering a shoulder injury, or maybe working one for reasons impossible to understand. This wasn’t a complete match or anything, but it was a usual spectacle out of him.

Eterno defies the laws of physics
Freelance into the crowd, check


Team FILL (Ángel Oriental, Aramis, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Kanon, Keiser Drago, Power Bull vs Team Lucah libre Boom (Aspirantito Jr. (Guerrero), Boxter, Fandango, Kilvan, Kronoz, Toxin, Tromba, Yoruba) [Copa Higher Power]
(IWRG 05/17, Arena Naucalpan, 43:51, good, via
IWRG tv)

LLB vs IWRG fit the usual Copa Higher Power mold: some really strong sequences and some iffy moments. The big brawl into the crowd and the dives in the middle of it separated this from most of the others ones, but also seemed to cause it to go a lot longer without getting to eliminations; this wouldn’t have been hurt by going 8-10 minutes shorter. On the upside, +LuchaTV giving graphics for each elimination made this a lot easier to follow than the usual AYM presentation. Helped that they actually could ID the people in the match. Demonio Infernal like hitting people very hard and likes being hit very hard. Angel de Oriental and (I think) Baxter had the iffiest sequence in the match and Angel didn’t come across too well. Toxin & Aramis got a lot of time at the end, almost a singles match on their own. Aramis looked really good, Toxin seemed to slow down a lot after the Spanish Fly on the floor but came back strong at the end. It didn’t look especially safe at times but this was entertaining if long.

Diablo throws himself into a double stomp
Demonio Infernal running Fire Driver
Tromba and Aramis, head to head

Imposible © vs Súper Mega for the IWRG Rey del Ring
(IWRG @ 06/04, 14:19, ok, via
IWRG tv)

My plan of watching all the Imposible singles match takes an ugly turn. This didn’t start good, didn’t get better, and then thankfully ended. Super Mega appeared to legit bounce his head off the mat on the second fall finishing powerbomb. He reacted big, putting his hands behind his head and shaking it about, which also meant he wasn’t close to be pinned while he was counted for three. He later missed on his giant tope, wiping out badly. He was messed up enough that the rest of the match was slow and sloppy, but it also wasn’t so great before that point either. That missed dive should show up on spot of year countdowns (good or bad), but the rest isn’t worth your time. This is on the low end of OK.

Super Mega’s usual crash and burn

CMLL on 2017-08-18 

Monito splash

Recapped: 08/20/2017


Astral & Robin beat Cholo & Espíritu Negro
(11:39 [4:43, 2:07, 4:49], 1/3, ok, via 

Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma beat Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr.
(11:39 [4:43, 2:07, 4:49], 1/3, ok, via

Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat La Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis
(10:32 [3:10, 2:11, 5:11], 2/3, ok, via

Stuka Jr. beat Dragón Rojo Jr. in a lightning match
(6:37, torpedo plancha, ok, via

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. beat Ephesto, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto
(9:24 [3:35, 5:49], 1 DQ/2, ok, via

Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven beat Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr.
(8:55 [2:22, 1:32, 5:01], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

he’s going to get better at this or break his legs, one of the two

The main event was the debut of Juice Robinson and the return of Matt Taven before the Gran Prix. The foreigner were slightly rudo, and the crowd was totally behind the Mexicans.

Gran Guerrero unmasks Niebla Roja in the first fall, and does it again in the second fall without Edgar noticing. Niebla Roja returns to the back to get a new mask while the rudos take advantage of the numbers. They don’t actually go for the pin or anything, that’d be crazy. Niebla Roja returns with a stage dive onto Gran Guerrero and ends the fall cleanly defeating his rival.

Sugehit & Zeuxis feuded all match, switched masks during the match, and Sugehit took Zeuxi’s mask afterwards.

Robin appeared to suffer a right knee injury in the third fall, but returned and finished the match


I think Sugehit might have lost this one

The main had some timing and positioning issues that made it look off at times. There was nothing deadly, and it wasn’t just with Taven & Robinson; Valiente nearly got in the path of Diamante Azul’s big clothesline, and the Mexican tecnicos weren’t as good doing the usual Marco corner punch bit as the rudos have been. Everyone was just not used to wrestling each other, which means it’s a good thing they’ve got a couple weeks to work this out before the big match. The effort was there, especially with Taven and Juice trying to fit in (even if it wasn’t already working), so they should get there by 09/01 and nothing was so bad that it would turn people off this idea.

The semimain served it’s purpose in building up the Anniversary main event, it was a borderline match. Angel de Oro & Soberano looked impressive on their big spots. Making this the semimain helped out too; the two guys feuding came off as the most important people and weren’t overshadowed this time. The second fall was laid out really well to set up Niebla Roja looking like a star, better than they’ve done so far. He was very emotional in his post match promo and could use to show more of that in his matches.

Stuka/Dragon was a turn taking lightning match that didn’t do much for me. They did bigger stuff early on, but then went back to the usual trios moves with these guys. Stuka’s doing the superplex to a suplex spot a lot and I’m not a fan. This was fine for a what it was but nothing needed to see.

Niebla Roja plancha

This woman’s match was a regular. Sugehit & Zeuxis are doing more brawling to signify how close they are to the mask match. It makes sense in that context but it’s not what they do best. Not sure how Sugehit and Zeuxis can end up wearing each other’s masks and it not be a DQ for someone, but I’m thinking about it too much. Everyone else was their usual self, which wasn’t enough to make for a good match.

Ordinary match, one where I had to double check who won a couple days later because it was just sort of unmemorable. Rudos were more giving than usual, técnicos did their normal stuff as well, nothing really jumped out. Universo is not as exciting as his cousins so far. It would probably be a good idea if Stigma had a second finisher so he didn’t have to awkwardly load much bigger guys on his back.

The técnicos tried a bit more than we see in the opener, especially Astral in the first couple falls. His attempts at fancy moves still look clunky and sometimes slow, but it’s more interesting than what we’ve usually got from these. These two rudos are mostly fine about taking offense from the tecnicos but don’t have show a wide variety of stuff they can do on their own, which creates some dead teams when they take over.

cool opener dives?

Marco still heavyweight champ, Mexico vs the World, 09/02 The Crash

this was not a good night for dive catching

CMLL (MON) 08/21/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Astro, Asturiano, Meyer b El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana, Joker LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Espanto Jr., Rey Apocalipsis b Arkalis, Astral, Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Juice Robinson, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Rush LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Volador didn’t get along with his partners the entire match. Rush fouled Juice, then Volador joined in stomping down the foreigners post match.
5) Marco Corleone © b Diamante Azul [CMLL HEAVYLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3rd defense. Marco took 1/3 to retain

Matt Taven refused to tag Volador early, but Volador acted like a rudo the rest of the way and it was weird to have all the Mexicans beating up the outnumbered foreigners. Main event seemd fine.

Tonight’s CMLL main event is a reliable Japanese match. Mistico and Ultimo Guerrero have been opponents on the FantasticaMania tours, and again when they were part of at trios for the best of Super Juniors. They’ve done that singles match less in Mexico.

2013-04-16 (Guadalajara): Ultimo Guerrero beat Mistico
2015-03-23 (Puebla): Ultimo Guerrero beat Mistico by DQ (unmasking)
2016-01-24 (Tokyo): Mistico beat Ultimo Guerrero (NJPW World)
2016-10-14 (Mexico City): Ultimo Guerrero beat Mistico in a Universal tournament first round match

This Mistico has never beaten Ultimo Guerrero in a singles match in Mexico. Mistico is a lot better (and healthier) luchador than he was two years ago, and this should be a great showcase for him. I’m not sure if he’ll break that 0 for Mexico though.

Angel de Oro, Titan and Valiente take on Felino, Mr. Niebla and Negro Casas in the semifinal, which should be alright. The matches below it could be great: the Panther Brothers team with Stuka against the NGD, and Puma, Tiger and Virus face Drone, Fuego and Stigma in a likely fast paced match. The opening two matches aren’t much, but the last 1h30m of this show should be pretty watchable. It’ll air on CMLL’s YouTube channel starting at 7:30pm.

Guadalajara has a 5v5 cibernetico as a preview for the Gran Prix. The CMLL team this time is Diamante Azul, Euforia, Rush, Volador Jr. and Pierroth (not in the Gran Prix, apparently not Puerto Rician any more) vs Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven and the returning Michael Elgin. Elgin returned last night. Dragon Lee, who is actually in the Gran Prix, is in the semimain instead. This would be an easy show to put up on YouTbe for a small fee, but you all are going to have to wait until to see if I do it. Maybe I’ll ask $1 for it and send it to Satanico.

CMLL Anniversario tickets are on sale. The listed tickets run from 2352 MXP ($133USD) to 363 MXP ($20.50). Those tickets only include the lower bowl. The upper section will be cheaper. The high end is up 400 pesos from last year’s show, which is surprising to me given the advertising lineup. They’re still cheaper than the recent big years

Most expensive ticket in pesos, Anniversario show

2017: 2352 (Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero)
2016: 1989 (La Mascara/Dragon Lee)
2015: 3724 (Atlantis/La Sombra)
2014: 3724 (Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero)
2013: 2995 (Volador/La Sombra w/tease of Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero)

CMLL has an article on their luchadors doing well in England. Rey Bucanero & Ultimo Guerrero defeated the Briscoes on the last night of the tour, while Mistico & Titan lost to a Los Ingobernables del Japan team.

SuperLuchas has an obituary for Gran Nikolai.

Psycho Clown and Dr. Wagner are in Riviera Maya for a press event to promote TripleMania and the resort weekend on the 16th. Lady Shani was handing out Record papers today. +LuchaTV has an interview with Perros del Mal from last week’s press conference.

The TripleMania reair on UTDN is listed for 3 hours. It seems unlikely they’ll be able to fit the full show (probably with commercials) in a three hour time slot. It’ll either go much longer, or it’ll be edited down to just the big matches they can fit.

Mini Abismo Negro raves about wrestling on TripleMania in Japan in 2000.

Lucha Memes on 09/03 in Coliseo Coacalo
1) Keira vs Makabre
2) Silueta vs Diosa Quetzal
3) Drako, Corsario Negro Jr. vs Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid
4) Aeroboy vs Virus – new

A generic Sexy Star interview includes her saying she never considered giving up wrestling.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and the latest Lucha Report.

Segunda Caida reviews matches from CMLL 08/11.

CultIcon starts a countdown of part one of top 25 TripleMania matchespart two of that countdown, and previews tomorrow’s Lucha Underground.


CMLL (MON) 08/28/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Astro & Meyer vs Ares & Joker
2) Millenium & Rey Samuray vs El Malayo & King Jaguar
3) Drone & Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
4) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Negro Casas
5) Diamante Azul, Euforia, Rush, Último Guerrero, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin, Sam Adonis [cibernetico]

CMLL is going to do versions of the Gran Prix in every location (which seems like it might hurt the slight iPPV business a little bit.) This is the 6v6 version, and indicates both Kojima and Kenny King aren’t due in until the show. Semimain looks fun, and the undercard is full of tag matches CMLL wouldn’t book if they didn’t have so many people in the main event.

The Crash (SAT) 09/02/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Lowki vs Laredo KidKeyraDezmond XavierDesi DerataÚltimo Ninja
scheduled to appear, no match announced.
2) Jonathan, K-Mikc, Sombra De Plata vs Mirage, Skalibur, Viento
3) Bestia 666 vs Jack Evans [super libre]
4) Ortiz & Santana vs Dave Crist & Jake Crist and Arkángel Divino & Black Boy and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Último Maldito [GFW TAG]
5) Oráculo vs Black Danger [mask]
6) Carlito & Daga vs La Máscara & Rey Escorpión (Indie) and Garza Jr. & M-ximo

The big matches had been announced earlier, but the lineup for the tag match is new. Arkangel & Maldito are going to get a chance to do their stuff in a big match.

This is not the full card, since there’s a whole lot of people without matches and Low Ki’s not exactly coming to Tijuana to work an opener. Desi Derata is a person I did not know, but appears to be a west coast basekc aisd women wrestler. Maybe her versus Keyra and the others in a four way, but I think they’d just announced that if it was happening.

I’m not sure which Sombra de Plata this is – there’s none wrestling in Tijuana, though there are a couple elsewhere. K-Mikc is probably a mispelling of absurdly named Mexicali luchador “Kamik-C”.

This is listed as being taped for GFW. I suspect it’s not the whole show that’s airing on Impact, but the GFW tag match and maybe whatever Xavier & Lowki end up doing, but the hope is they tape the whole thing and it gets posted or sold somewhere.

A Jack Evans match airing on Impact would be interesting because he’s a guy who quit was fired by AAA while still under Lucha Underground, and we’re only seeing people who are still on good terms with AAA or Crash people who never were on LU as part of the deal so far.

new lucha videos for the weekend of August 18th, 2017

Late Monday IWRG was a repeat, as will be normal the next month.

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-15
taped 2017-08-13 @ Arena Naucalpan – YouTube/Mega
1) Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro vs Argos & Dr. Karonte
2) Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera
3) Dinamic Black, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras vs Herodes Jr., Internacional Pantera, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
4) Black Dragón vs Gallo Frances for the mask

AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-19
taped 2017-07-16 @ Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon – YouTube/Mega
0) El Monje, El Potro, Hator vs Black Soul, Eclipse, Genocida
1) Bengala, El Elegido, Estrella Divina, Marty The Moth vs Australian Suicide, Mamba, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
2) Kevin Kross vs Máscara de Bronce
3) Argenis, La Parka, Psycho Clown vs Averno, Chessman, Dr. Wagner Jr.

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-08-19
taped 2017-08-15 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara  – YouTube/Mega
1) Lady Maravilla, Silueta, Skadi vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
2) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, Fuego vs Hechicero, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr.
3) Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Shocker, Terrible

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-08-19
taped 2017-08-11 @ Arena México – Mega
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
2) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
3) Diamante Azul vs Rush

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-08-15 

just a normal Tuesday sunset flip powerbomb to the floor

Recapped: 08/20/2017


Apocalipsis & Inquisidor beat Fiero & Retro
(13:36 [6:20, 3:33, 3:43], 1/3, ok, via

Canelo Casas, Nitro, Sangre Azteca beat Metatrón, Oro Jr., Star Jr.
(16:41 [8:35, 2:23, 5:43], 2/3, n/r, via

Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa beat Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
(16:07 [4:11, 6:13, 5:43], 1/3, n/r, via

Drone beat Puma in a lightning match
(7:41, quebrada, good, via

Blue Panther, Carístico, Titán beat Luciferno, Mr. Niebla, Pierroth
(8:11 [2:29, 2:23, 3:19], 2/3, n/r, via

Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero beat Mistico, Rush, Valiente
(9:04 [3:33, 5:31], 1/2, n/r, via

What happened: 

Drone tope

Último Guerrero and Mistico feuded, UG getting away with a fairly blatant mask pull to win. This set up a singles match for next week.

The opener is Retro’s streaming debut, though he’s another one of those guys who’ve been on the fringes since last spring before disappearing for a while.


Puma diving elbow

The lightning match is a big move fight, Drone going for the dives early and Puma stopping him, until he finally gets them and Puma has to go at that level too. It’s a swiftly moving match, maybe too much at times – not a lot of stuff has as much as impact as it should because they’ve got to get on to the next thing. (The ten minute limit forces the pace, but sometimes it’d be much better if they could go 12 when they need to go 12.) It’s also maybe a little rapidly back and forth than it needs to be, when the impact of those moves could’ve added up a bit if someone was able to get in a few in a row. Still, it’s a lot of fun stuff in a short spurt of time, and I like that Drone is using the moonsault instead of the low impact double knees as his finish.

Fiero looks agile, is able to do a few spots that wows people even in the context of a limited opener. He’s going to have to escape these matches to go anywhere, but there’s some hope there.

Retro is much bigger than I realized, noticeably a head taller than everyone else in this match. He moves awkwardly and didn’t show much except a lot of one foot dropkicks. He looks like he hasn’t had many matches, but spent a lot of time arguing with the referee. He didn’t show much of the classic style they’re going for.

Fiero springboard moonsault