Friday night results, loaded Three King’s Day CMLL card

Volador meets the fans

CMLL (FRI) 12/30/2016 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, thecubsfan]
1) Hijo del Signo & Metálico b Flyer & Robin
17:24. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Tritón b Nitro, Sangre Azteca, Virus
13:52. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Rey Cometa b Sagrado [lightning]
7:36, Cometa winning with a standing Spanish Fly
4) Blue Panther Jr., Drone, The Panther b Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
14:42. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr. b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
12:55. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
10:58. Tecnicos took 2/3. Cavernario replaced Mr. Niebla on Tuesday.

Big looking crowd from what we could see on Claro, but they never did the big sweeping pan camera shots normal for a 10,000+ show. It didn’t look that occupied in the upper levels when we could see them, which – along with some social media searching and rash judgments based on crowd shots – suggests this was a heavy tourist crowd in for the weekend to have fun. They got a fun show: tecnicos won just about everything, and the last couple matches were especially crowd pleasing. CMLL’s ability to draw tourists is an advantage over every other promotion in the world and it helped them last night. Not much happened, but not a lot needed to happen.

It does leave CMLL in a weird situation where the worst two attendance numbers in this couple weeks stretch appear to be last Sunday’s big show and possibly this upcoming Sunday’s show. Like last week, tickets prices are more expensive for the Sunday show than usual. Tickets are 180 to 680 for Maximo/Mascara (which aren’t moving much), compared to 50 to 250 for the following Sunday. They’re also more expensive than next Friday’s CMLL card, which is a bonkers lineup. I usually save the lineups for later, but this is the biggest thing going on today.

CMLL (FRI) 01/06/2017 Arena México
1) Estrellita, La Vaquerita, Marcela vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
2) Rey Cometa vs Cavernario
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger
4) Volador Jr. vs Mephisto
5) La Máscara & Rush vs Marco Corleone & Máximo Sexy
6) Valiente vs Último Guerrero
7) Atlantis, Carístico, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja

Informa said this show, on Three King’s Day, would have rematches from the best of 2016. I didn’t believe them. They aired the promo last night hyping those matches. Still didn’t believe them. I am looking at the actual lineup right now. Still a little unsure! No, really, this is a card unlike any thing CMLL has done. Three singles match on a non-tournament show, seven matches entirely, just a show where they did all star matches instead of just trying to fill dates for undercard wrestlers, this is unlike anything I’ve seen out of CMLL ever. It’s going to be one of the best Friday night shows CMLL runs all in 2017; only Anniversario and Dos Leyendas have a sure bet to beat it. I have no idea if this is a one off holiday idea, or if it’s the annual attempt to experiential in the first quarter of the year before giving up the rest of the time, or if it’s something more. I just really hope next Sunday does well because I want more like this.

(To beat up the poor dead horse a little more, this is a much better card than either of the two Sunday holiday shows at a cheaper price.)

I’d suspect those singles matches will be one fall matches just to fit them all in. Or they’ll be effectively one fall matches. Not going to be too bothered by Casas, Puma & Tiger not getting their tag title shot because I’d rather see the Panther rematch again. I’d rather see Cometa/Cavevernario again too and I’d hope they’d set up a title match. They probably won’t: this’ll be the last Friday show before the FantasticaMania crew head to Japan. Those FantasticaMania lineups will come out early this same morning, so Friday’s going to be a busy day.

Maybe connected to all of this, maybe not: Leo Riano’s column talks about hopes for 2017, and mentions Sofia Alonso is now in charge of CMLL marketing. I’m guessing Paco Alonso’s daughter, but it’s not said.) He hopes she’ll be part of “modernizing” the company. (This is not the same Alonso/Lutteroth family member who’s been part of their cultural projects.) I’m not sure how much to make of this, because titles for children of business owners sometimes can be pretty important sounding and not amount to all that much, but Paco Alonso passing administration of his lucha libre company down to his children sounds like a logical end game. We just don’t know when it would happen. Maybe just one more thing to keep an eye on in 2017.

Maximo says he’s nervous going into Sunday’s match with Mascara 2000. He notes the Dinamitas wrestled a very different style than he did today, and hopes his cardio will give him an edge. CMLL has not said if Sunday’s show will be streaming. NJPW says they’ll have it streaming, and CMLL’s streamed every time NJPW has so far. I suspect CMLL is concerned that the stream will hurt attendance and isn’t going to advertise it, but it’ll still be broadcast tomorrow.

DTU talks about their 2016, says they plan on doing more iPPVs in 2017.

CultIcon finishes up his top 50 luchadors of the year list.

In Reynosa, Perfil was declared the best luchador of the year by Panther Promociones. The mask match between Imagen II and Magnifico was the best match of the year.

A new arena is opening in San Luis Potosi on Sunday with X-Fly in the main event.

CMLL on 2016-12-30 

Friday night fights

Recapped: 12/30/2016

What happened: Nothing really. There were a lot of tourists in attendance and they worked a very tourist friendly show with no angles. Maybe the only thing that happened was the CMLL promo announcing Cavernario/Cometa, Último Guerrero/Valiente, Mephisto/Volador and Casas/Tiger/Puma vs the Panthers for next week. That’s way too good to be true.

What was good: I liked the main event and the lightning match was good too. This was a generally easy to watch show.

Where can I watch it: I’ve likely put up the links to the matches on Twitter by the time you see this, though the second match was messed up by some stream issues. (more…)

CMLL Friday preview, Tuesday GDL results


CMLL (TUE) 12/27/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Star Black & Vaquero Jr. b Carlo Roggi & Linterna
Tecnicos took 2/3. Star Black replaced Magico.
2) Cancerbero, Joker, Raziel b Magnum, Marvel, Star Jr.
Rudos took 1/3. Marvel’s first match since September.
3) El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, Pegasso
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Kráneo, Pólvora, Ripper b Drone, Stuka Jr., Tritón
Rudos took 2/3.
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. b La Máscara, Shocker, Terrible
Tecnicos took 2/3.

No angles in Guadalajara or Arena Mexico on Tuesdays this week. That’s strange, even for CMLL.

No real stories coming into tonight’s show either. Caristico’s on the show, but Ultimo Guerrero is not. The women did their cage match followup this past Tuesday, and Maximo and Mascara 2000 are held off until their match on Sunday.

The main event is Carsitico, Valiente and Volador Jr. versus Cavernario, Felino and Negro Casas. That could be a pretty good match, the best on the show, depending on how serious they take it. CMLL pushes the now decade old issue between Caristico & Casas as the selling point. TGR unites to fight Angel de Oro, Marco Corleone and Stuka in the semimain match. The Panther brothers team with Drone to face the remaining Invasors – Kraneo, Olimpico and Ripper – in the fourth match. CMLL’s ignored the Caristico/Histeria mask match so far, but maybe he’ll show up with that mask tonight.

Rey Cometa versus Sagrado is the lightning match. Like the main event, that will be good if they go for it. Pegasso, Star Jr. & Triton face Nitro, Sangre Azteca and Virus, which probably won’t be good. It’s kind of amazing Virus is still so motivated compared to other guys stuck in the same role as him. Flyer & Robin are supposed to take on Metalico & Hijo del Signo in the opener, but Signo’s was pulled from his last show so he’s not a certainty.

The show airs at 8:30pm on, as normal. I’m not sure if I’m going to be around to watch it or even record it, but I should have a recap sometime over the weekend.

CMLL has notes on Reyna Isis’ return and Dalys’ title defense.

In Arena Aficion on Tuesday, La Hechicera & Super Fly defeated Big Mami & Joe Lider, which somehow set up a cage match with all four on 01/17. Maybe more people will be added because a four person cage match is odd, though that’s how they’re advertising it today. Hechicera works some AAA spots shows (though seemed to be fewer this year) and would be the likely loser if no one else was added.

On Informa, CMLL announced the 01/06 show (next Friday) will have rematches of some of the best matches of the year in “some form” – so probably a La Mascara/Dragon Lee main event trios. The show also had Black Terry & Negro Navarro, who said they’d be on the Arena Coliseo shows when they resume on 01/07.

AAA’s poll for best tecnico of the year has Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. (who never turned tecnico but just woke up one day and was one), La Parka and Aerostar. I would command you to go vote for Aerostar to mess with the results, but Psycho’s running away with it.

CultIcon and TKD review last night’s Lucha Underground.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Luchas 2000 855 has Caristico unmasking Histeria and their year end review.

CultIcon has 30 to 21, and 21 to 10 in his top 50 countdown.

Segunda Caida reviews LA Park vs Rey Escorpion.

CNN Espanol has a story on Los Cholita of Bolivia, but it appears to use the same photos from articles from a couple years ago (so it might just be entirely recycled.)

02/10/2017 AAA TV Lineup (Cuautitlan)


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1) Bengala, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker 
2) Dinastía & Octagoncito vs Mini Abismo Negro & Mini Psycho 
3) Aerostar & Argenis vs Carta Brava Jr. & Súper Fly 
4) El Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin 
5) Daga & Pentagón Jr. vs El Mesías & Pagano 
6) Angélico, La Parka, Psycho Clown vs Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown

Air date: 02/18 and 02/25, or thereabouts 

What can you say about this AAA lineup that can’t be said about any other one? The main feuds are still the same. There’s still no sure fire great matches, but the undercard matches might be ok. There’s still people who aren’t intersting and it’s still the same people. Not much is changing.

Maybe that’s the story. The old AAA frustration is how they would do a lot at the big shows and not a lot inbetween. Maybe the newer AAA is doing the same, but the only big show is TripleMania. Wagner versus Psycho was announced a year ahead of time, and they might have been able to do the same with the Apaches and OGT. They’ve not moved that feud along an centimeter since TripleMania. The mystery person diversion was dropped on the last two tapings, like so many other AAA mysteries, so perhaps nothing is coming from that.  They’re now doing the trios match they advertised in October in February, and maybe they’ll get around to a title match in March. That doesn’t leave much time (at least by AAA pace) to start another feud. It’s a 18 month build to Faby and Mary vs Averno and Chessman, or Faby vs Tirantes, or some such, only it’ll be more like a three month build with 15 months of running in place. Even if the destination was attractive, the journey is not.

The third match is related to the cage match at Guerra de Titanes and the apuesta match at Rey de Reyes. AAA has me rooting for Argenis vs Carta not because it’s the best match, but because it’ll be an actual surprise. Not a good idea to root for those things, but Carta being in the match might finally solve the Carta Brava identity controversy.

Angelico in a main event seems like such a positive thing, execpt it’s fairly obvious he’s not going to get to do most of what he can do. Maybe he’s got a secret comedy side? 

Dave being in the main event is fairly ridiculous. He is easily the worst guy on the whole show. Any one of the rudos in the opening match would do better in that spot. You could take any indie guy in that spot and they would do the same or better, because that’s what AAA has done. It’s also the same problem with Parka Negra: AAA’s done nothing to make people care about them, they’re just dropped into top matches without explanation. No one is getting over that way unless they’re an incredible worker, and that’s not Dave.

Maybe AAA believes they can annoint anyone a star by just putting them on TV. They could point to Pagano, who is clearly their 2016 success story, but Pagano got a cool introduction, time to talk, and an indie rep. The people they’ve introduced since have not gotten any of that. The biggest challenge AAA has in 2017 is to make new stars to replace those they’ve lost, and ust placing people in main events is not enough. 

On that note, and noticing Johnny Mundo is not around after Guerra de Titanes, Petagon has to win that title match. Not only win, but win clean, and win dominantly. (Go watch his AAW title win, where he beat up Callihan’s entire crew by himself before winning without any controversy, and steal all that.) Pentagón is the rare modern lucha protagonist who the crowd won’t boo for being successful, and AAA must take advantage of it when they can. Mundo will be fine if he’s gone for months anyway. Same thing at the top here” Psycho has to start beating everyone not named Wagner, or they’re wasting a year of build. AAA needs to be more afraid of missing star making chances than losing people.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2016-12-27 

gringos doing silly things in Mexico, the norm

Recapped: 12/27/2016

What happened: Nothing. Vaquerita got a revenge win on Zeuxis, but that’s pushing it.

What was good: The women’s match was good and the semimain was enjoyable.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

Lucha Underground 3×17: The Gauntlet

Texano and Cage


Jeremiah Crane beat Mil Muertes (1:55, kick to the head, not rated)

Angelico & Son of Havoc beat Jack Evans, PJ Black (5:43, twisting 450 splash, ok)

Texano [2] beat Cage [2] (2:15, powerbomb, not rated)

Cage [3] beat Texano [2] (13:39, Drill Claw, great)


Cage is the winner of the best of five series between himself and Texano. It was a much different feeling victory than the two Cage had gotten before, with Cage having to fight uphill to clinch in the fifth match. Cage first lost a quick fourth match, a bit by fluke. A turnbuckle pad came off as Cage pulled Texano out of the corner, and Texano later caused Cage to fall face first on the steel. Cage bled and had concussion like symptoms and Texano was able to beat him swiftly with a powerbomb. Dario surprised both men by ordering them to have their fifth match right away, in a no DQ match. The two brawled around the ring, into the crowd, and with a chair – both men taking an unprotected shot to the skull – with Texano getting in most of the offense and Cage looking unusually vulnerable. Cage survived, finally defeating Texano with a brutal Drill Claw.

this is not a GIF, this is Vampiro’s HOF performance

Dario might have made the fifth match tonight because he was so excited to have a winner. He was interrupted looking into the mystery box earlier in the show, and had Cage come in his office to receive that prize after the match. Cage wasn’t unimpressed to find out he had been fighting for a mystery box, and unimpressed when Dario revealed the titular Gauntlet was the prize. Cage tried to walk out without it – “I’m not that much of a Renaissance fair guy” – but Dario pleaded with him to try it on. Cage gave it a shot, the gauntlet lit up with a power, Cage used it to lift Dario up in a choke lift, and decided he was going to keep it after all. Once he wasn’t dying, Dario seemed pleased with the outcome.

Texano probably had second thoughts after the loss. Not just in the way he lost, but that he passed up a chance to get Famous B and Brenda in his corner for his match. Famous B offered his services, pointing out the crowd wasn’t behind Texano and believing he could change that. Texano wanted B to get lost, but seemed to believe a little bit of what he was saying.

The opener, Mil Muertes versus Jeremiah Crane, ended up as a backdrop for a return. Prince Puma made his first appearance in the Temple since Mil put him in the casket by hitting Muertes with a cane to give Crane a quick win. (An undeserved one too, since Mil was dominating it.) Prince Puma did his usual flips into a pose after the match, but posed facing Vampiro instead of on the logo. Vampiro had been out of sorts during the match, so he knew it was coming. We did too: the show actually started with a new darker Prince Puma in Vampiro’s dojo, pledging to make Vampiro his new maestro.

Crane should’ve consulted the Ouija board closer before taking this match

The middle match turned out to be less notable for storylines than for real drama. PJ Black & Jack Evans defeated Son of Havoc & Angelico in a match that never really got going, and seemed to have a section of the rudos beating up Son of Havoc edited out. The bigger problem took place about four minutes in, when Angelico went for a springboard knee, crushed Jack and landed awkwardly. Angelico’s elbow was obviously messed up by the landing, and the others just went to a finish as quick as possible. What wasn’t as obvious right away was Jack’s jaw was injured on that same spot, if I have the story right. He still finished the match, but you can see him point to it right after. Both men will appear again on this season – through the magic of taping out of order, a mute Jack has already been on this show this year – but there’s a lot less Angelico going forward.

We go forward, because we have no choice. And going forward, we’ve got two matches for next week. The Mack versus Johnny Mundo will take place, as well as Sexy Star versus Mariposa. Sexy Star had a present delivered to her, via a chatty and Mundo-obessesed Ricky Mandell, which of course turned out to be another spider. Sexy’s convinced it’s Mariposa behind this, so she got the match.

The potentially biggest news happened in a late commercial break. The January 11th show is now the midseason finale. And that’s all we know about that.


Jack & Angelico

That last thing first. When you’re a type who thinks they’ve got a lot of it figured out, something you’re not at all expecting really sticks out. I feel like I know a lot about Lucha Underground, but had no idea they were doing a midseason finale. Which sure sounds like a midseason break. Which sounds not great, both in that I really want my Lucha Underground right now and that I wonder a bit about my Lucha Underground going forward.

The series has taken time off before. They held off the first Aztec Warfare for a couple weeks, but that was a case where they specifically didn’t want to burn new shows on Christmas Eve and New Year’s Eve. There’s no major holidays coming up on Wednesdays in January that I can come up with. LU knew of that hiatus in advance, they had Dario mention it in a promo taped on the show months before it happened. There doesn’t seem to be the same mention here, and LU people have specifically talked about airing all 40 episodes in a row.

I have a good sense of what’s airing over the next three episodes. If I’m right, there’s a happening at the end of episode 19 and episode 20 is a special episode. You could definitely look at them, squint a little, and see 19 as a break point and 20 as a hot one to have people anticipating for a little while. Still, there’s been no sign this was coming. The way this was mentioned outside of the show, in El Rey commercial, suggests this wasn’t something LU planned themselves. They’ve taped 40 episodes, 21 left to air after this finale. They’ll air the shows eventually. This is curious and a little bit concerning. It’s not “sound the alarms” concerning, but definitely “fingers on chin, looking pensive” concerned.

That news overshadowed the show for me, and maybe only me, but it was a decent show to overshadow. Crane/Mil was disappointingly short (and you’d think a guy who thinks he had the answers would’ve known that already, but nah.) The tag match was the match I was least looking forward to on the season, and one where I thought they might just cut it out given what happened. It sucks seeing two of your favorites going down. Jack’s around more than Angelico, and Angelico chasing down Mundo had such promise. Guess we’ll need patience for that too.

the end

The first Cage/Texano wasn’t much either, and this was not looking like a good in-ring show at that point. They redeemed it quite a bit by the main event. Striker was pushing the idea of this being a great best of five, which is his job but in no way felt true. The fifth match alone didn’t bring up everything else. If they found a way to start the fifth match with the same wounded Cage as we saw here, I don’t think anyone would’ve missed much of the other four matches. Still, this match was a lot of fun, in both guys getting to use the full Temple playground to work a different fight than the ones they had done up to this point. They did well working off the Cage injury story to make him the sympathetic face, though his reaction to the power glove suggests they’re going back the other direction. That’s a wait and see, but weird (ironic?) that Cage won a power up in a match where he looked underpowered.

A lot of what Famous B said about Texano in Lucha Underground – “You’re not just translating to the audience, you’re not connecting with them…they don’t care about you, they’re not invested in you” – rang true, even if it’s also like something some dork might have said in blog somewhere. Where Texano has delivered is in his big singles matches: he was really good Alberto, and he was really good here. I’m not sure Famous B is the right guy to get people invested in you, since it doesn’t seem like it’s working out too well for Dr. Wagner, but making it clear they’re still going somewhere with Texano after his lose was a good idea.

The turnbuckle bit in the fourth match was great. Not just because they smoothly snuck it in, but because Vampiro’s forced confusion about what had just happen. I don’t if Vampiro actually came up with the idea for that spot, but never had a man sounded more like he wanted you to notice something he was pretending he didn’t notice.

This was not the my most favorite episode of this show, but I guess I got to appreciate them while I still can.

Caristico picks a date for his apuesta match with UG, LU preview & notes, Tuesday results

proud CMLL school graduates

CMLL (SUN) 12/25/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, Domingos Familiares, Fuego en el Ring]
1) Destello & Destructor b Capitán Cobra & Micro
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Fugaz, Sky Kid, Smaker b Linterna, Mr. Brisa, Relámpago
Relampago replaced Mr. Apolo. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Gran Kenut, Joker, Mosco X Fly b Javier Cruz Jr., Metatrón, Tritón
Tecnicos took 2/3, Cruz submitting Kenut, setting up a mask vs hair match.
4) Exterminador & Maléfico b Esfinge & Gallo
Rudos took 1/3 to set up a tag title match.
5) Frezzer L Neutrón, León Blanco, Mr. Trueno, Nautilius, Pitbull I, Magnum, Star Black, Infierno, Ráfaga [cage, mask]
Order of escape: Leon Blanco, Nautlius, Pitbull I, Magnum, Rafaga, Neutron, Mr. Trueno, Infierno (who most people thought was going to lose, especially being the last rudo left.) Match came down to tecnicos Star Black & Freezer, with Star Black getting the win via his Estrella Negra. Furia Roja, Freezer’s unmasked brother, came to the ring and attacked Star Black for unmasking his brother, with the winner of cage match actually being unmasked in the scrum. Security finally got Furia Roja to back away, but Furia Roja wouldn’t leave until his brother was unmasked. Freezer is Diego Omar Lemus Pérez, 23 years old, 5 years a wrestler.

That post match bit sounds like a great angle or someone losing their mind. Sometimes it can be both.

CMLL (TUE) 12/27/2016 Arena México [CMLL, ESTO, thecubsfan]
1) Acero & Fantasy b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:45. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Stigma b Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Inquisidor LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:55. Tecnicos took 1/3
3) Estrellita, La Vaquerita, Marcela b Amapola, La Comandante, Zeuxis LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:42. Tecnicas took 1/3, Vaquerita defeating Zeuxis.
4) Okumura b Puma [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Okumura replaced The Panther on Tuesday.
5) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa b Bobby Z, Sam Adonis, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Valiente b Ephesto, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.

Like in Puebla on Monday, crowd was up for no apparent reason except it being a holiday week where people are off from work and looking for things to do. It wasn’t just more Mexican fans, but it looked like more foreigners too, and felt like one of the louder Tuesday shows in a long while. Adonis came out with his Trump USA flag and got booed very loudly. This is the second straight week where CMLL hasn’t booked an ongoing program.

I’ve watched about half the show (not the whole show no matter what mislabeled recap you saw this morning.) Don’t watch the first two matches. The women’s match was actually good.

This news is a few days late, but we’ve finally got the post match interviews from CMLL’s Friday show. As you’ll recall, the (unofficial) stipulation was that Caristico would get a mask versus hair match with Ultimo Guerrero if he won. Caristico won, and CMLL cut away from the show before either match could talk about that stipulation, and might have not allowed talk at all in front of the crowd. Backstage, the message was clearer. Carsitico said he’d like to have the match at Homenaje a Dos Leyendas. Ultimo Guerrero declared he said he’d do the match if Caristico won, but never said when, just that it’ll happen some day. CMLL has downplayed this entire thing, which very much suggests this is an idea Caristico is pitching CMLL and nothing that’s been confirmed. File it in the back of your head for March, but don’t count on quite yet.

Today’s Lucha Underground episode is “The Gauntlet”, the 17th episode of the season. This sounds like a companion to episode 2, “The Amulet”. Maybe we’ll get a full outfit if the show lasts long enough. Matches announced:

  • Cage [2] versus Texano [1], match 4 in their best of five
  • Angelico & Son of Havoc versus PJ Black & Jack Evans
  • Jeremiah Crane versus Matanza (video of beginning)

There’s at least a fourth match which will also air today, based on the way events progress on the taping. The tag match is notable moment for negative reasons that we can’t talk about until after it airs. The show preview also talks about a luchador returning to the Temple for revenge. Could be Prince Puma. Could be Officer Reyes. Could be Super Fly! (It’s probably not Super Fly.)

Lucha Underground lead writer Chris DeJoseph was on Kocosports’s Lucha Underground video review this past week. It was a good conversation, though no huge revelations. DeJoseph and Van Wagenen seem to try to wait for episodes where they have a good story about to do these sort of interviews. Last week’s LU episode has the bathroom fight between Fenix & Aerostar versus the Snake Tribe. DeJoseph talked about watching them, led by vignette director Skip Chaisson, film the scene for hours, going home, coming back in the next day, and finding them still filming that scene. He estimated the filming of that segment took eight hours over two days. This tells me I do not have the patience to work on a TV show, because that sounds like forever for what seemed to be a three minute scene. Another great random factoid is Kobra Moon’s throne was created “by the guy from GWAR.”

There were some of the usual topics. DeJoseph was asked basically “why Sexy Star?”, and said she has an amazing amount of chemistry, she connected well with her audience, and her character is just cool.  He also did the usual defense of women fighting men, though noted he prefered it more when they were doing wrestling moves than men punching women in the face or sexual stuff. When DeJoseph came on board, El Rey had the concept of 7 tribes of luchadors and people representing each tribe, and it was up to him and his staff to fill in anything else. He knows how they’d get back to that idea if they had to end it, but it didn’t sound like he was going to have to do that any time soon. DeJoseph mentioned, in the context of the wrestlers having say in their programs, that Marty and Killshot’s feud was originally going to end in Season 2, but the wrestlers thought they could do more with it and so it lasted to their big Season 3 match instead.

AAA apparently has a TV taping on 02/24 in Queretaro. The last TV runs out at 02/18, so there’s a taping before that still missing. I’m going to have to make that chart already.

There’s a Super Calo Jr. reality show web series on YouTube.

El Sol de Tlaxcala catches up with Templario, who’s said to be the first luchador from that area to make it to Arena Mexico. He’s 23 years old and has been wrestling for 9 years.

Apolo Valdes looks back at the year in lucha libre.

CultIcon goes thru 40 to 31 in his top 50 of the year.

Box Y Lucha notes Villano III won the UWA Welterweight Championship today, which actually conflicts with the information we’ve had before on the first title change for that tile. Box Y Lucha is usually correct. I wish I could get Box Y Lucha to write more in depth about these things instead of just single interesting factoids, but I should be grateful for that alone.


CMLL (MON) 01/02/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano & Zaeta Roja vs Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr.
2) Arkalis, Millenium, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Policeman
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Disturbio, Sam Adonis, Skándalo
4) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Máximo Sexy vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas
6) Volador Jr. © vs La Máscara [NWA WELTER]
13th defense

Volador/Mascara feels like a feud we’ve seen a lot of, but we haven’t actually seen the singles match all that much in singles matches this year: just the double countout in Liga Elite, and Volador getting the win in the Universal tournament. They just did this match on a Sunday, but most of us didn’t see that, and this is actually the first time Mascara is challenging Volador for this title.

CMLL (TUE) 01/03/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Estrellita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Seductora, Metálica, Reyna Isis
3) Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Okumura, Skándalo, Virus
4) Tritón vs Sagrado [lightning]
5) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Ripper
6) Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero

The usual bit of grab bag ok matches. Nothing in the top four looks for sure promising or a disaster. Sagrado is the best rudo in a lot of matches, and a full match between him and Triton would be interesting. They should have enough time to put something together in a lightning match.

Reyna Isis, who you may have forgotten exists, is back from an extended trip to Japan. Nothing to do with anything but I wonder if Sanely masks eventually replace the Sexy Star masks as the go to mask purchase for casual women fans at Arena Mexico. There were some last night in the crowd and it made me think about the possibilities.

CMLL (TUE) 01/03/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Capitán Cobra & Fugaz vs Destello & Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Robin, Sensei, Star Black vs Cancerbero, Ráfaga, Raziel
3) Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Valiente vs Bobby Z, Pólvora, Vangellys
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Mistico vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Shocker

Caristico & Shocker repeat from last night, so that might be the new feud. Shocker and Caristico have never had a singles match. I’m fascinated by the idea of them trying to have one in 2017.

On the other hand, Dinamitas against Blue Panther Jr. rematch, so maybe there’s a local trios title defense coming.

Cholo de Tijuana (FRI) 01/06/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) ? & ?? vs ??? & ????
2) ? & ?? vs ??? & ????
3) Amazona, Clásico, Dinastía Silver, Zaeta vs Cholo De Tijuana II, Furia Salvaje, Lady Lee, Memo Velaquez
4) Arandú, Black Silver, Enigma, TJ Boy vs Destroyer, Iron Boy, Luminoso, Viernes 13
5) Rey Hechicero vs Caifan
6) Hijo de LA Park, Octagoncito, Rey Horus vs Bestia 666, Demus 3:16, Steve Pain
7) LA Park, Máscara Sagrada, Súper Muñeco vs Damián 666, Histeria, Pakal

Cholo de Tijuana shows usually don’t make it out complete anywhere – though Histeria/Caristico did – but I think I’m required to point out any Rey Hechicero/Caifan card. Also, that semimain is weird but good. All the Tijuana promotions seem to be pushing each other for better cards; if you’re the Crash, you probably want to tour because running more shows will help, but also your big shows will stand out more away from TJ.

CMLL Puebla: 2016-12-26 

a Pegasso dive because why not

Recapped: 12/27/2016

What happened: Dalys defeated Marcela (again) to keep CMLL Women’s Championship. Mascara beat Volador to set up his own title match next week.

What was good: The women’s title match was the best match on the show, though found plenty of flaws.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel and matches will air on 52MX in a couple weekends. (more…)

01/27/2017 AAA TV Lineup (Toluca)


AAA TV (FRI) 01/27/2017 Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México
1) Dinastía, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce vs El Apache, Mini Psycho Clown, Soul Rocker
2) Big Mami & Faby Apache vs Goya Kong & Lady Shani
3) Aerostar, Argenis, Drago vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Súper Fly
4) Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
5) Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr. vs Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
6) Hijo del Fantasma, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. vs Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Pagano

Air Date: I don’t want to make the 2017 chart yet, but let’s say 02/11 & 02/18.

This taping was actually mentioned on this week’s AAA TV, but I wasn’t paying close enough attention to the recap show and no one else picked up on it. Lineup was posted on an AAA Toluca page, and AAA’s officially announced it since I noted it on Twitter. AAA traditionally runs shows in Toluca and Ecatepec early in the year. They held off Toluca until March last year, but are back on a more normal schedule.

This follows Guerra de Titanes and implies not a lot is going to be changed by that card. The two titles could change hands without affecting anything, but the the caravan is staying on the same general path. Maybe Fantasma might finally admit he’s a tecnico by this point. AAA’s 2016 TV was boring and repetitive in between big shows, and this

The main event is nearly a repeat of the Guerra de Titanes main event, only with Fantasma in for Parka (so it’ll be a better match.) Perhaps Texano might have a title program by this point.

Dave the Clown is a semimain guy because he had a clown gimmick and is tall and it was easier to let him use him than give anyone else a clown gimmick. Or at least that’s what it comes off as. The good thing is it keeps him away from catching flyers for this show, though the Perros are going to have their work cut out for them. This is a rematch from Juarez, where the Perros won but got beat up afterwards. It probably won’t go any better for them here.

The positive is there are matches which actually have a chance to be good, and that’s a change from a lot of recent AAA TV. Match 2 has no hope – I called the Goya/Mami feud – but 1/3/4 all might work out. Garza Jr. looks like the 2017 replacement for Jack Evans, after he was the 2016 replacement for Fenix. Both are asking a lot and I’m not sure he’s really delivered in AAA yet, but I can see what they’re going for. Tercera is the new Aerostar, Argenis, Drago trio against some familiar opponents. That’s probably also building up the Aerostar/Super Fly rematch, unless AAA pulls a surprise and puts Carta Brava in there or something like that. The show opening with young high flyers against good opponents. Mini Psycho Clown challenged Dinastia back in October, and AAA’s found time to include three other title matches with no particular build or reason to exist since. Maybe they’ll get around to it by June? I shouldn’t complain, this is more than what we’ve gotten for the last couple months.

Back to back weekends of tapings means AAA is either changing the way they air these things (unlikely) or they’re going to have another big (three week-ish) break before the next set.

great match roundup, week of 2016-12-17

Titan leaps into trouble

do you like recaps of mediocre CMLL shows? I have the content for you.

This is late and slight. I used all the extra time to do nothing in particular. Infierno en el Ring counts as next week. AAA was Star Battle, already recapped once but the grades will turn up again.

rating matches TV Show taped
good Angélico & Hijo del Fantasma vs Ikuto Hidaka & Masato Tanaka Angélico & Hijo del Fantasma vs Ikuto Hidaka & Masato Tanaka (posted by thecubsfan) Star Battle Japan en AAA Worldwide - Diciembre 2016 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2016-12-17 2016-10-26
good Drago vs Aerostar, Taiji Ishimori Drago vs Aerostar vs Taiji Ishimori (posted by thecubsfan) Star Battle Japan en AAA Worldwide - Diciembre 2016 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2016-12-17 2016-10-26
good Psycho Clown vs Pagano Psycho Clown vs Pagano (posted by thecubsfan) Star Battle Japan en AAA Worldwide - Diciembre 2016 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2016-12-17 2016-10-26
good Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Hechicero, Puma, Tiger LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2016-12-19 2016-12-19
good Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2016-12-20 2016-12-20
good Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Luciferno, Pólvora Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Luciferno, Pólvora (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2016-12-23 2016-12-23
good Carístico vs Último Guerrero Carístico vs Último Guerrero from CMLL on 2016-12-23 (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2016-12-23 2016-12-23

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