CMLL Puebla: 2017-05-29 


Recapped: 06/02/2017-06/04/2017


Asturiano & Zaeta Roja beat Guerrero Espacial & Rey Apocalipsis (14:39 [6:15, 2:51, 5:33], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Ares & Metálico beat Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno (19:10 [8:36, 4:34, 6:00], 2/3, viaVideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Fuerza Chicana beat Lestat, Rey Samuray, Starman (15:09 [7:22, 3:46, 4:01], 1/3, viaVideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Stigma, Stuka Jr., Valiente beat Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón (14:00 [6:48, 3:56, 3:16], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Rush beat Mr. Niebla (12:02, 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

  1. Rush senton (1:34)

  2. Mr. Niebla middle rope senton (3:02)

  3. Rush corner dropkick (7:26)

Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Niebla Roja beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (9:04 [2:03, 2:24, 4:37], 2/3 DQ, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

What happened:

Puebla action

Último Guerrero ripped up and unmasked Niebla Roja again. UG still wants him to stop wearing it. Niebla Roja wanted a rematch for next week.

Niebla kicked out of the first fall pin, but they counted it anyway. Rush beat Niebla clean in the third, and left Niebla without his mask before taking a bow on the ramp.


Niebla spinng forearm

With this show, I watched Rush/Mr. Niebla live, watched the first half of the show days later, and watched the second half of the show days after that. It really wasn’t work looking at three times, it was another show where it’s OKs all the way down only because it’s not worth thinking deeper.

The main event was hot for it lasted. Niebla Roja convinces me he might be able to have a good match with Ultimo Guerrero every time he does the spinning forearm, which looks a lot better than the spinning headscissors. Euforia actually dropped Mistico on a dive, so he’s now like 2499 for 2500.

Niebla/Rush was about as good as it’s going to be with Niebla working a normal match, which is no great praise. Niebla didn’t seem to be out of sorts but Rush didn’t seem to trust him to do much – even on the usual argument to set up a surprise cradle spot, Rush kept looking back to make sure Niebla would actually be there. Rush was not going full out, but he was trying, you don’t do a big senton to nowhere unless you actually want the match to be good. This one just felt like not a lot to it by the second time I watched it.

Rey Samuray

The fourth match was the most complete trios match with a surprise result, but nothing really worth going back for at this late date. The Dinamitas looked good for their time, but didn’t do much they don’t normally do. It was a surprise result for me because I’m just expecting the regular trio to win, but the técnicos are higher regarded. Stigma getting Sansón up for the Stigmatica should be impossible. Mascara 2000’s looking backwards, carefully rolling out of the ring bumps still kill me. Stuka’s suplex onto someone nearly killed one of the NGD. Tecnicos struggled with the usual double corner moonsault spot. Valiente never wins with the springboard reverse tope he finishes with her here, maybe he was just switching it up since he could’ve just as easily won with one of his submission if the usual Valiente Buster was going to a problem.

My only notes on the tercera were that Lestat & Rey Samuray looked good and no one else did.

The mat work in the second match was fine but it came in the killer long first fall and then the match just went on and on. There’s no reason early matches need to be going 19 minutes, none of them benefit from it.. Metálico, as guy who entertains beyond just his matches, might be a more valuable guy with Maximo gone, but he’s got to add more to what he’s doing in the ring to match his entrance and it might be too late for him anyway.

I was set to actually give a Good grade to the opener after two falls, and then they had a deadly boring third fall in usual CMLL opener style. I don’t know why the rudos took the match so far down, except that must be the law. Asturiano is really good and Zaeta Roja didn’t seem that far behind him tonight, and I wish we could see what they could do in an actual feud rather than the batch that are always in them. They looked super in the start of the second fall and generally felt like they were doing much better stuff than we usually get in this spot. Rey Apocalipsis looked wild and out of control whenever he was on offense, forcing in spots that weren’t really working, but at least he could keep up with the técnicos better than the DF early rudos.

Niebla & Rush struggle

CMLL announces Gran Prix (w/NJPW & ROH) for 09/01, El Rey on LU

CMLL will hold another Gran Prix on September 1st. It was announced on Informa yesterday, with people from NJPW & ROH scheduled to participate. No names were announced.

CMLL likes to spread out major shows, so a Gran Prix on 09/01 suggests the CMLL Anniversary show is probably 09/22 and 09/29. (If they can announce the Gran Prix, it’d be smart if they announce that date as well.)

Also on Informa, Flyer revealed was designed by Volador, who based off the Komachi character he played in Japan. (This is the Mistico version of that character, you can see the resemblance.)

Marisela (& Antonio) Peña’s father, Don Polo Peña, passed away. This is the second member of the family to pass away in a short time, which much me very rough. Zorro mentions Don Polo helped him early in his career.

ESPN has an interview with Daniel Tibbetts, El Rey president, on Lucha Underground. It goes about 2,000 words and I’m not sure they nail him down to saying anything definite, it’s the usual “we’re high on the show but we absolutely do not want to talk about season 4 until after season 3 is over” and “all options are open (for PPV)” that doesn’t really say anything and gives you a sneaking feeling there’s not a big plan here. Saying they don’t want to talk about Season 4 until after Season 3 means we’re not going to have any resolution about where this is all going until well into pumpkin spice time. Tibbetts thought Lucha Underground going on hiatus was great, but then he’s also probably the guy who made that decision.

Powerbomb.TV announced they’ll present their own championship on Sunday’s show.  They’re planning on a tournament that’ll reach into Mexico, the US and Canada and will announce details during the show.

The Mi Pasion x Lucha Libre says Lucha Memes drew 1,300 people. They say that little it’s a disappointment given the card, but 1,300 fans for an indie show is only a disappointment in Mexico, everyone else it’s a big success. EDIT: Lucha Memes says the total was 2,115, which is even better.

Dragon Lee tells Superluchas he’s looking forward to his match with Juventud Guerrera on June 22nd, though he’s not much of a history guy and doesn’t watch a lot of stuff from before he got into wrestling. SuperLuchas has an article about the press conference for that Super X show.

Mascara & Maximo are working in Guatemala this weekend.

Lucha Memes on 06/18 in Coliseo Coacalco

  1. Iron Kid vs Demus

The Seattle Times writes about Lucha Libre Volcanica.

Atlantis, Oriental, Zumbido, Solar, Cinthia Moreno, Ludark are headed to Spain for shows on June 23 & June 24th.

The new Lucha Talk talks about Lucha Underground, X-Law, Verano de Escandalo and more.

TKD and CultIcon review this week’s Lucha Underground.

The Gladiatores interviews Roxana Cantu, Nuevo Laredo lucha promoter working with AAA (and rare promoter who happens to be a woman.)


IWRG (SUN) 06/11/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Kanon vs Vórtize
2) Aramis & Climax Jr. vs Demonio Infernal & Lunatic Extreme
3) Látigo vs Freelance
4) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Villano III Jr.
5) Gallo Frances, Internacional Pantera, Pantera I vs Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
6) Heddi Karaoui vs Negro Navarro
7) Imposible, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Black Warrior, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro

Traumas versus Black Warrior continues. Gallo Frances is working with Heddi Karaoui on other indie shows. This is is Latigo’s first IWRG match almost since he was still a Tortuga Ninja; he’s back representing Indy Nation.

DTU (THU) 06/29/2017 Arena Aficion
1) Erwing, Irwing, Luigi vs Billy, Hard Boy, Macizito
2) Astrolux, Kid Cometa, Kingston, Tiburón, Toto vs Black Metal, Drolux, Pardux, Tony Iron, Voldemort
3) Aeroboy, Cobre, Moria vs ?, ??, Mike Segura
4) Jimmy & Kevin vs El Exótico & Pesadilla and Gio & Junior
5) Crazy King vs Markus Crane, Pólux Jr., Corsario Negro Jr.
6) Paranoiko & Tóxico vs Ángel o Demonio & Ovett and Halloween & Súper Mega
7) Cíclope & Miedo Extremo vs Jimmy Lloyd & Matt Tremont

DTU just ended their last tour and already has card out for the next. The Hidalgo shows are the ones which +LuchaTV usually makes the trip, so this has a better chance of turning up than the Queretaro show the next day. Lloyd, Tremon, and Crane are in from Game Changer Wrestling, while Mike Segura and Super Mega join in as X-LAW reps with two more to be announced.


Lucha Underground 3×21: Sudden Death

slow motion Puma absurdity


Johnny Mundo beat the Mack in a falls count anywhere match for the Lucha Underground championship (9:42, sunset flip powerbomb on chair, great) – 3rd defense

Drago, Vibora and Pindar beat Aerostar, Drago and Fenix (c) for the LU Trios Champs (5:34, Drago splash Aerostar, ok) – champs fall on 3rd TV defense, Reptile Tribe is 7th Champs

Prince Puma beat Mil Muertes in a Boyle Heights street fight (11:36, brick to the head, great)


Johnny Mundo crowd dive

It took ten extra minutes, but Johnny Mundo is still Lucha Underground champion. Mundo survived the Mack and a falls count anywhere stipulation being added on at the last second by Dario Cueto. This match was even more of a brawl than last week, with both men taking advantage of the rules to win it on the outside. Mundo took advantage of the rules also by having Worldwide Underground interfere. It played out a little like last week, only Son of Havoc wasn’t around to help and Taya was – she saved Mundo from being suplexed out of the ring onto chairs, and Mundo powerbombed Mack onto those same chairs to retain the title.

Mundo’s celebration lasted all of one shower. While he was taking it, Dario announced Mundo’s next challenger will be Rey Mysterio. Mundo admitted he was worried when it was announced, sure it would be his toughest challenge yet and went to get training immediately. (Like, even before he put on some pants.) Dario says Matanza was specifically not getting the title match because of embarrassing the family “two weeks ago” by taking the backdrop thru the ceiling from Rey, and Rey’s performance there got him the title shot.

That title match won’t happen for some time. It’ll be the same show as the Cueto Cup final, the culmination of a 32 man single elimination tournament that’ll take place over the next many weeks. It’s unclear if Matanza was meant to be excluded from the tournament as well (but it definitely won’t include Rey & Mundo since they’ve got the title match.)

Prince Puma crowd div- wait no

The other two matches were about people moving to the dark side. Fenix & Aerostar had rescued Drago last time we saw them, but he didn’t seem to understand what was going on. Tonight’s match confirmed he’d been brainwashed by Kobra Moon, betraying his teammates at his first chance and handing the match to the Reptile Tribe. Drago actually switched corners during the match and tagged himself in, so it looks like the champs are Drago, Pindar and Vibora with Kobra Moon leading things from the outside.

Prince Puma also gave into his dark impulses. Or, maybe “Octavio”, since that’s what Rey called Puma early in the show. Rey tried to convince Puma that Vampiro was no good for him and using him, but Puma was too far gone, too haunted by his death and Konnan’s death. A spooky Vampiro told Rey to stay out of it. Puma wore black for the match and made a point of using weapons when possible. He had the match won when Catrina hit him with the stone. Vampiro, who was silent when he wasn’t rooting for Puma from the desk, handed Puma a brick. Puma considered the act, and still smashed into Mil Muertes’ head to get the win. Vampiro seemed satisfied with the action as much as the result.

We didn’t get a peak at anyone else this week. Ricky seems to be now firmrly in Worldwide Underground as Johnny’s lackey, not just a fan acting on his own. Jack Evans was very quickly referenced as having suffered some accident to explain why he hasn’t been part of these segments.


Aerostar being Aerostar with an old friend

This was one of the top “end of chapter” shows they’ve had on Lucha Underground. It reminded me a lot of episode 20 in the first season, because it also had a Prince Puma street fight (with Cage), plus the blowoff bull rope match for the AAA title with Texano & Alberto, and Son of Havoc breaking up with Ivelisse in his match with Angelico. We got another really strong title match, and a split that hopefully will work as well as that one. The matches were just as good too. That season 1 episode felt like a leveling up point, where they went from a show that was doing very good to one that felt like The Best Show Going. There wasn’t the same momentum going in to tonight’s show, but it very much felt like Lucha Underground doing what it does at it’s best.

This street fight felt a lot different than the one Puma had with Cage, and a different from the other limited rules match earlier in the night. Puma/Cage was Puma at this incredible athletic best, and definitely his coast to coast flipping dropkick was an amazing athletic feat, but this one was just as much about Puma giving in to Vampiro’s teachings. In the end, it’s Vampiro winning with Puma as his vessel and I’m not sure how good an idea that is long term, but they executed it well. Puma was more viscous, less playing to the crowd, not showing off and posing like the pre-death Prince Puma. It wasn’t over the top, and there was still plenty of the good old Puma/Muertes fabulous chemistry too. This match was about Puma, but Mil Muertes reminded everyone what a tremendous destroyer he can be, just walloping Puma at times to put a stop to his big moves. Catrina’s rock shot near the end didn’t look great, didn’t have the impact of something that was knocking Prince Puma off his feet, but it’s a minor gripe in a typically very strong match between the two. This is obviously a rivalry LU is going to keep revisiting from time to time as long as either man is around, and hopefully we get one more look at it before anything changes there.

this is a finish

Mack/Mundo 2 (1.5? Still 1.0?) was a lot of fun. Dario deciding Mack deserved an edge and Falls Count Anywhere didn’t really make sense, at least not the way he explained it, but it allowed them to have more fun with the Temple than they had even last week. They definitely had people believing a title change on that powerbomb, and I think people would’ve been completely satisfied with this match if it was the only one they had. The one negative is it felt a little bit like last week because of the interference spots, except that was a bit more entertaining interference. It made sense they’d be there, and Taya being the difference fits with the story they’ve been telling, but it did take a little bit away from the match.

This looks like the end for Mack’s title chase with the tournament coming up, but he delivered big time these two weeks. (I don’t want to re-litigate this, but it’s impossible to compare the kind of title matches when Sexy Star was around the title and the matches they’ve had the last two weeks, it’s not even close.) Mack didn’t seem to be a focus the last couple seasons, but hopefully this got him bigger into future plans

The trios title match was the least of the three matches to no surprise. They did do the extended Aerostar/Vibora sequence hope for since Reptile Steve Pain showed up here, and it was as great as it was in AAA. Maybe it might convince someone to put it together again elsewhere. That was pretty much all the match; Fenix did some stuff with Vibora, but it seemed edited or carefully shot (cutting away from Vibora taking the head kick was the peak) to hide his struggles. The mist looked as bright green as I’ve seen it, convincing me they worked some Hollywood magic to spruce up the usual bit. Dragon, Fenix and Aerostar was a predictably fun team, but who knows if we’ll actually see them all together again. Melissa sadly announcing the new champs was a nice touch.

I do have some trepidation about Cueto Cup and the next few weeks. 32 people in a tournament, assuming they’re doing a tournament in a normal fashion, means they’ve got a lot of matches to get thru for the next while. The good side is everyone should make an appearance over the next four weeks alone, since 32 people not including Rey and Mundo (and maybe Matanza?) means pretty much everyone on the roster has to be in this thing. Everyone getting a chance to do something is very much the Lucha Underground way. The concerning side is there’s probably not going to be time for the giant size matches we got on this show, and shows with these sorts of matches are Lucha Underground at it’s best.

That’s the next couple weeks. This week was great.

underappreciated huge move in a match with a lot of them

Marco Corlelone new heavyweight champion, Volador/Cavernario, LU preview

new champ/photo via Marco Corleone’s twitter

CMLL (TUE) 06/06/2017 Arena México
1) Artillero & Espanto Jr. b Bengala & Sangre Imperial LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Acero, Aéreo, Eléctrico b Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3
3) Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tencicos took 2/3
4) Titán b Ephesto [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther b Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
6) Cavernario, Negro Casas, Shocker b Stuka Jr., Valiente, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Shocker replaced Mr. Niebla. Negro Casas replaced Felino. Cavernario submitted Volador.

I’ve seen none of this so far but it sounds like they’re setting up Volador/Cavernario. Not next week, they’re doing another trios setup first.

CMLL (TUE) 06/06/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Nautilius & Ráfaga b El Alteño & Star Black
Match dropped from the poster with the lineup, then took place anyway. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Cosmos, Shockercito, Stukita ?? Mercurio, Micro, Relámpago Azul
Micro, normally a tecnico, replaced Pierrothito on 06/01. Tecnicos took 1, rudos took 2/, no finish mentioned.
3) Puma, Sangre Azteca, Tiger b Magnus, Star Jr., Starman
4) Marco Corleone b Mr. Niebla, Rush, Gran Guerrero, Pierroth, Terrible, Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Bucanero, Kráneo, Euforia [CMLL HEAVY, cibernetico]
Cibernetico for vacant championship (Maximo firing). Sides were Gran Guerrero, Euforia, Terrible, Pierroth and Rush against Marco Corleone, Rey Bucanero, Mr. Niebla, Dragon Rojo and Kraneo. Eliminations: Dragon Rojo (Pierroth), Gran Guerrero (Rush), Euforia (Kraneo), Pierroth (Niebla), Kraneo (Terrible), Rush (Marco), Niebla (Terrible), and Marco beat Terrible to win the title. He’s the 19th champion, first foreigner to hold the title in 20 years, and it’s his first singles title win in Mexico. It was also his first shot at the heavyweight title.

There’s fan Periscope video of the title change here; since the Guadalajara show is only aired locally, it might be the only video of it we get to see. (They should air highlights on Informa today.) The crowd reacted big to both Marco pinning Rush and Marco winning the title. I did not see it coming, and still thought Terrible was winning when it went to the final two. Marco’s frequently the most over guy on shows and it makes sense for him to be heavyweight champion. It’s a nice achievement for him, a guy who probably was tabbed to to be a future heavyweight champion from early in his career and finally being able to achieve it.

CMLL’s preview for Saturday’s title match says it’s a 1v1 tournament until they determine a new Light Heavyweight match. CMLL also changed the lineup page to say it’s a cibernetico. I think it’s probably a cibernetico, but maybe they’re also actually giving out the title on Saturday.

Universo 2000 is in the hospital after suffering a heart attack Tuesday. The Dinamitas talked about the situation after their match last night, and were heading to Leon to check on him. He suffered a heart attack last year as well, but was said to be recovering fine. Unvierso was originally reported in grave conditions, but is said to be stable now.

Sanson and Ultimo Guerrero talk about advancing in the Gran Alternativa; Ultimo Guerrero is one of Sanson’s trainers.

Lucha Underground has episode 3×21 tonight, “Sudden Death”. Matches announced on the show

  • Johnny Mundo (c) vs the Mack for the Lucha Underground championship (starts the show, must be a winner)
  • Prince Puma vs Mil Muertes in a Boyle Heights Street Fight (listed only in the TV preview, not yet online.)

LU’s also mentioned Dario will have an announcement which will affect the second half of the season. It is not another hiatus. They also released a Kobra Moon promo, where she says she’s coming for the trios titles. It’s either this week or rather soon.

Kortiz Kaving will now be known as Villano V Jr., after a video where Ray Mendoza Jr. handed over the name to his son. The original idea was all the Villano kids would have to create their own names after the sons of Ray Mendoza had to create their own but the idea changed. Kortiz Kaving hasn’t wrestled since breaking his leg last September, but he’ll retun  with the new name on July 2nd in IWRG. I’d assume this means Kaving Kortiz may eventually become Hijo de Villano V.

On Juventud Guerrera’s TV show, Sharlie Rockstar said Elite would return in August. It would be incredibly rare for a promotion to stop existing for 10 months and then come back.

The Arena Mexico Freedom is offering children’s birthday parties and discounts if you’re bringing a guest.

+LuchaTV has their latest podcast with Villano V & Juventud Guerrera.

LigerFever recaps the latest Podcast Boom

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania  and the latest Lucha Report.

Herodes talks about his post wrestling career as a massage therapy.


CMLL (MON) 06/12/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Flyer, Meyer, París vs Joker, King Jaguar, Policeman
2) Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray vs Ares, Disturbio, Hijo del Signo
3) Drone, Esfinge, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado
4) Atlantis, Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone vs Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Ripper
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Caristico talked about putting this together on Informa and they’re actually teaming one time. Probably no more than once because it’s CMLL.

This will be the 4th straight week where Ares will appear after not appearing since February. Tigre Rojo Jr. gets a shot in a real match.

CMLL (TUE) 06/13/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia
2) Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Star Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Fuego vs Misterioso Jr. [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, Titán vs Hechicero, Morphosis, Rey Bucanero
6) Stuka Jr., Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

Morphosis getting regular bookings again. This is surprisingly on the second time Fuego & Misterioso Jr. meet in a lightning match (Misterioso won in 2015), though they also meant during an En Busca de Un Idolo (Fuego won).

Revolucha The Crash (SUN) 07/09/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Jerrito Estrada & Mini Hator vs Mini Bengalí & Mini Difunto
2) Golden Boy & Rey Demonio Jr. vs Erika Sotelo & Larry Miranda
3) Demus 666 & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Arez & Rico Rodríguez
4) Cibernético & Sharlie Rockstar vs Damián 666 & Zorro
5) Bestia 666 vs Daga, Willie Mack, Último Ninja, Sammy Guevara
6) Garza Jr. & Penta 0M vs La Máscara & M-ximo

Llaves y Candados is now promoting as Revolucha for reasons I don’t quite understand. They’re also back in Arena Coliseo Monterrey after saying they’d run this show elsewhere. Everything is a mystery. Demus 666 appears to be Demus 3:16 under his old mentor’s numbers.

CMLL (TUE) 06/13/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Rielero vs Exterminador & Maléfico
2) Cosmos, Eléctrico, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Relámpago Azul
3) La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Running two women’s matches on Tuesday sometimes mean a rather dire lineup. Newcomer Rielero makes a Tuesday show already.

CILL & GALLI: 2017-06-03

So, sometimes I actually leave my computer screen to go lucha shows. Usually, this happens on a Sunday – but by the time I get home, I’ve got to rush to write a post among a dozen other things. Videos go up on YouTube channel and the results are tucked into the database but I never actually saying much about at the shows. Since my life appears to exist solely to find more content for the website, I’m going to see if I can write a little bit about the couple I saw this past weekend.

CILL (SUN) 06/04/2017 Sierra de Aurora, Aurora, Illinois [thecubsfan]
1) Payaso Loco b Ricky Vidal
Payaso won by convinced Ricky he had a shoe untied and backsliding him
2) Pato 1, Pato 2, Pato 3 b Atómico Jr., Galáctico Kid, Penagono Jr.
Atomico Jr. got a three count on one of the ducks, but insisted it wasn’t three. Pentagono won with a Canadian Destroyer.
3) Furia Roja & Golden Dragón b Pat Monix & Storm Grayson
sort of tecnico/tecnico match. Golden Dragon won via DDT.
4) El Traidor, Fúnebre, Mr. Brisa DDQ Águila Oriental, Atómico, Ojo Blanco
Appeared as if the promoter had enough of the match after too much crowd brawling and called for the DDQ, but possible that was the intended finish of the rudo/rudo match.
5) Mojo Mcqueen, Skayde, Slayer b Billy Star, Golden Star, GPA
turned into a three fall match, with Skayde taking falls 1/3 (the third with Golden Star taping out for about 20 seconds before the referee thought to call it.)
6) Gringo Loco, Penta 0M, Skayde Jr. b Aeroboy, Eros, Tritón Gringo Loco, Penta 0M, Skayde Jr. vs Aeroboy, Eros, Tritón (posted by thecubsfan)
Penta fouled Aeroboy for the win. Skayde Jr took Aeroboy’s mask, and they agreed to a mask match on the 25th.

I did not know this existed. I would’ve missed it if Aeroboy hadn’t mentioned it on Twitter. I feel like there’s a point in there somewhere.

This was scheduled to be a 12:30 doors open/1:30pm start. It’s an indie lucha libre so I knew enough not to arrive a moment before 1:30 – but if I was actually smart, I wouldn’t have shown up until like 2. The show didn’t get going until nearly 2:30. We all sat in the hot dance hour for a hour, waiting and sweating and listening to very loud music and being told the wrestlers were finally on their way. Their was a Skayde seminar scheduled for 9am and I’m thinking it might have gone long. It also may just be against the luchador code to work a show before 2pm. They did seem to be telling the truth about the guys not being there, and the main eventers had to rush to set up the merch right after the show before they lost everyone.

After the hour wait, the opener was a comedy match with heel stalling and comedy. It was a tough sell. The crowd wasn’t all that reactive on the show, having stewed in the heat so long that they weren’t all that interested in reacting to a guy spinning around on the mat by himself. The first couple of matches were kids still trying to figure lucha libre and their trainers masquerading as clowns and ducks (and a Ninja duck) and not everything worked out well.

Pat Monix has a (his?) phone number on his trunks & Storm Grayson (ex-Rey Furia) has “SLUT” on his. You’d think that means they’re doing some sort of evil womanizing gimmick, but they mostly played it straight here and only a little stronger on the second show. There’s some context I’m totally missing. Mr. Brisa is a name you might have seen in the Arena Coliseo Guadalajara results. I’d seen the mask, but I only realized I’d never really seen him before when this large heavy man came out wearing it. I’m not sure exactly what the deal was with the finish, if the promoter had enough or if the referee had actually counted them out, but he hadn’t been counting any of them out.

The fifth match is the best match I didn’t have room to record this weekend. It was also one where it didn’t appear to be a three fall match until the moment the tecnicos were pinned in the first match without getting any sort of comeback. Golden Star, especially when he’s wearing the green Mexico jersey all weekend, could finish well in Super Crazy look alike competition. Triton had told people he was heading back to Guadalajara for a family issue, and maybe he still is, but I was surprised to see him still around at this point. The main event was leaning towards people having fun rather than a super serious match, but they still Penta get in a lot of his usual big spots and Triton pulling out the springboard moonsault. The garbage can shots were also great, because they sounded so huge while also probably not hurting nearly that much. Catching Pentagon get bowled over by one out of the corner of my camera was a highlight of the night.

I was surprised by the mask challenge: Aeroboy’s not losing his mask just as he’s starting to make US progress, but Skayde Jr. isn’t going to work well as Skayde Jr. without that mask. Maybe he just keeps wearing it anyway, but I feel like there’s out coming. I’ll probably be back on the 25th to see.

Crowd had to be around 80. I wonder if AAA points out shows like this to their wrestlers, ‘warning’ them this would be their fate if they left AAA like Penta. But then, Penta seemed pretty content being there, and maybe that’s a sign about how things were in AAA if he’s probably happier working in front of 80 instead of the thousands AAA drew that day in Juarez.

Penta murdering people, as usual

GALLI (SUN) 06/04/2017 Arena GALLI, Villa Park, Illinois [thecubsfan]
1) Galactic Kid b Atómico Jr., Pentagono Jr.
Galactic Kid win via DDT on Atomico Jr. Pentagono may have been hurt on a superplex/powerbomb spot right before the finish (finish looked improvised.)
2) Ojo Blanco & Traidor b Atómico & Golden Dragón
Traidor won with super DVD. Ojo Blanco announced as from LA.
3) Furia Roja © b Elliot Paul [GALLI JUNIOR]
Paul went for a belt shot but Roja speared him for the win.
4) Venus b Chico Suave, Zen, Draconis, Fly Star
Fly Star from Mexico was added to the match. Venus won with a sort of leg lariat.
5) Eros, Golden Star, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Fúnebre, Mr. Brisa, Slayer Eros, Golden Star, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Fúnebre, Mr. Brisa, Slayer (posted by thecubsfan)
Maya beat Slayer with a reverse tope.
6) Guerrerito & Imperio Azteca © b Pat Monix & Storm Grayson [GALLI TAG]
Monix & Grayson’s antics annoyed friend?/manager? Chico Suave. He attacked Grayson, blaming him for the loss, then betrayed Monix as well. They called Suave back to the ring, but were jumped and destroyed by Skayde Jr. & Gringo Loco.
7) Aeroboy & Mojo Mcqueen b Skayde & Skayde Jr. Aeroboy & Mojo Mcqueen vs Skayde & Skayde Jr. (posted by thecubsfan)
Skayde fouled Aeroboy, and Skayde Jr. pulled the trunks on the pin, then unmasked him again.
8) GPA b Barry Ryte © [GALLI CHAMP] Barry Ryte © vs GPA [GALLI CHAMP] (posted by thecubsfan)
3rd and last match. Ryte never seemed to get control of the match at any point without his manager interfering. After every trick in the book, GPA was too busy caning the manager handicufed to the ropes only for Ryte to foul him and drop him with his finisher for the title change.
9) Billy Star b Penta Zero M, Gringo Loco, Isaias Velazquez, Carnalito Penta Zero M vs Gringo Loco vs Billy Star vs Isaias Velazquez vs Vaquerito (posted by thecubsfan)
Isaias Velazquez and the debuting Carnalito (claimed to be from Mexicali) were additions. Elimination order: Carnalito, Velazquez, Gringo Loco and Penta 0M, with Billy Star pulling off the win. Post match set up Fenix/Penta vs Billy Star/TBA for September.

Again, I was smart enough to realize there was no way GALLI was going to start on time either and I should go eat dinner rather than hurry to the show. However, had I really been smart, I would’ve just taken the quick trip home and freshened up first. There was plenty of time, another 45 minute wait even after I took my time getting there, and lots of heat. (VIP ticket purchases got a giant fan pointed at them, us commoner did not.) I did get to literally sit in the shows at the farthest possible point away from the ring to be hard to find, so at least it was ideal conditions for me. This was closer to 200 (and at higher prices counting the VIP tickets), just about as much as their current set up is going to fit.

My hot take is Atomico Jr. is the best of the luchadors who are not old enough to get a learner’s permit, but he seemed to be quite angry about whatever went wrong on the finish. Ojo Blanco looked more like a Gato Blanco based on his gear and didn’t really impress. Venus is an exotico and the most popular person in the match. I have no idea how Fly Star ended up in Chicago and being added into a multiman match suggests he just kind of was there and they decided to give him a match. He only got to do a little. Guerrero Maya Jr. was surrounded by people looking for photos and merch when I got there – someone’s watching the YouTube streams or the TV shows on small networks, even if it doesn’t seem like it where we travel. He was the best guy in his match by far and it felt like he should’ve gotten more, but being able to sneak him onto a show with a The Crash guy was probably asking enough. (And then there was a long enough intermission that it felt like it could’ve been a seperate show.)

I expected the tag team title match to be better than it was and I was not as positive on the ex-Rey Furia as the last time I saw him, but this was also a match to set up an angle which might end up changing the character. Gringo Loco and Skayde Jr. looked awesome destroying them. Aeroboy & Skayde’s match here repeated the same ground as the match in Aurora, but I might have been the only person to pay for both so that’s probably the way to go. Maybe you can say the same for the GPA/Ryte match – I was hoping for a taste of what current indie style match GPA had done in Freelance, but this was more like an 80s territory title match with the heel getting nothing in that wasn’t set up by his manager doing something. It worked better for the crowd than it did for me. GPA losing the “no rematches” match and stopping in front of the set to look at the crowd made me wonder if he wasn’t going to be around GALLI as much for the immediate future. I dunno.

I was running out of space when the main event came around, so I waited until Penta to save a few minutes and start with the last guy. Carnalito came out after him. I’ve never seen Carnalito before, don’t have in my database. He was advertised as a debuting guy from Mexicali, but I had this very strange feeling I’d seen someone a lot like him before. I’ve racked my brain from the start of the alphabet to the very end, and I definitely can’t say who it is he reminds me. Carnalito was entertained for the short time he hung around in the match I hope we see him again someday. Isaias was good too, but it was really mostly Gringo, Penta and Billy in the end. Gringo must be going to whoever DJZ uses for haircuts, because the work he had going on looked amazing. Billy had a crazy headscissors that didn’t go right, but he some spectacular stuff go right. I think he was just as good in the afternoon match, but the crowd was more into here because it was him and Penta at the end. Penta deserves credit for putting over a guy that not a lot of people outside the Chicago lucha scene know of, and it definitely made me want to come back to see the tag match they set up.

Billy Star reminds me of seeing Samurai del Sol on these shows. He could do spectacular things, and you could knock him for his size or for not being clean in his moves all the time, but he stood out. Same with Billy Star. You may remember him as the Bandolero who showed up in the spectacular lucha match last year in AIW; AIW’s podcast later mentioned they wanted him back, but he wasn’t interested in the long drives to do it. He seems to be on just about every lucha show I end up going to, and I end up wondering what he far he could go if he wanted that. I’m not sure really how much I should be criticizing someone for lack of ambition given I’m writing a blog about lucha libre for free, but I think more highly of his prospects than mine. If he’s happy just doing what he’s doing, he should keep doing it, but it just feels like there’s something there being missed out on.

UG punishes Niebla Roja again, new CMLL heavyweight champ tonight?, next Crash lineup

classic UG

CMLL (MON) 06/05/2017 Arena Puebla [CultIcon, DeporPuebla, Efekto, El Popular]
1) Astro, Meyer, París b El Perverso, Guerrero Espacial, Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Astral, Espíritu Maligno, Magnus b Ares, El Malayo, Joker LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) King Jaguar, Olímpico, Virus b Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
King Jaguar replaced Toro Bill Jr.
4) Atlantis, Titán, Valiente b Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Niebla Roja DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tencicos took 2/3. UG fouled Niebla Roja.

Today’s CMLL show has Volador Jr. returning to Arena Mexico (this time for sure), teaming with Valiente and Stuka against Cavernario, Negro Casas and Shocker. Shocker is replacing Mr. Niebla, because they forgot Niebla was pulled into the Guadalajara heavyweight championship match. Negro Casas is replacing Felino because I dunno, but it does put the tag team champions on the same team for the first time since October. The last tag team title program CMLL ran was Casas/Shocker versus Volador/Valiente, maybe they’re setting it up again.

The best match on the show might be another Panthers/Dinamita match, with Cuatrero, Sanson and Mascara 2000 being the Dinamita group. Titan/Ephesto is the lightning match that’ll probably end sadly. Fuego, Idol and Stigma take on Misterioso, Sagrado and Virus. There’s a minis match and a typical opening match. It’ll air on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 7:30pm.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara has the ten person heavyweight cibernetico, which they say will determine the champion, not the final two advancing to next week. So does CMLL’s Facebook. I hope they’re right, it’s a much better finish to a match that way. Rey Bucanero, Dragon Rojo, Kraneo, Gran Guerrero are in it but have no chance. Euforia, Pierroth and Mr. Niebla all feel like long shots (and I wish I could totally rule out Pierroth winning but it seems more plausible than the other two.) Rush, Marco Corleone and Terrible are the favorites. CMLL is booked as if Rush is actually the heavyweight champion so he should have the title, but CMLL titles rarely make total sense.

This lucha tag match at Powerbomb.TV‘s Break the Barrier show this Sunday is now Puma & Felino vs Guerrero Maya Jr. & Skayde. This is the match which was first announced as Puma & Tiger versus Traumas. This show is a special situation, they’re trying to get eyeballs on their VOD network by running a show with people you might see on that network, but I can not imagine ever running a show because it seems incredibly stressful for the payoff. I mean, I’m really happy people do it (including people who may not be all that happy with me at the moment), but lucha promoters are only slightly less insane than lucahdors. Every other match on the show seems to not have had this drama, it’s the lucha one causing the issue.

The situation with the Traumas hasn’t really been talked about much – I heard Adam Lash talk about it on We Don’t Know Wrestling last week and you should listen it to if you want to understand the sequence of events. I was asked about the Traumas when they were being brought up, and said I’d heard no more about the kidnapping/assault accusations Trauma II’s ex-girlfriend made since that it was reported. Only, I didn’t really know enough of what I was talking about, since Powerbomb.TV was later told other information which caused the Traumas to be replaced. I don’t know the information, just that there’s something backing up that original story which is getting people to back away from using Trauma II. If Trauma II did attack his ex-girlfriend, then I wouldn’t want him on my shows either and there’s a lot bigger problems here than wrestling. If he didn’t, he’s going to have to do something to prove his innocence to English speaking promoters if he wants to be get booked there going forward. Trauma II will probably be continued to be booked in Mexico whatever comes of this, which could a whole other ineffective digression in itself.

The Powerbomb.TV show is just a $15 ticket if you’re near Old Forge, Pennsylvania on Sunday. It’s also going to stream live, starting at 2pm, on’s network. is $10 month/$100 a year, but they also offer a 10 day trial where you’re not even asked about your billing info. They’d like you pay for the service and I think you should if you enjoy it, but any new user could sign up this week, and get the stream live on Sunday before deciding if they want to subscribe.

the Houston Press has a really good story on lucha libre, focusing on the local scene and the growing lucha shows in the US. It’s long but worth your time. There’s a lot of talk about the real injuries from lucha, including the mention of a Houston luchador death from a couple years ago that I don’t think I heard of before.

Wrestle-1’s Kohei Fujimura is headed to Mexico starting on June 9th. He did an interview talking about how he’d like to return to Japan as a masked man. No promotion is mentioned, but I guess we should be on the look out for a new name showing up in IWRG.

Black Boy & Flamita defeated Daga & Hijo del Pirata Morgan in Tijuana. Arkangel kept The Crash Junior championships over Latigo & Mirage.

RobViper has highlights of CMLL C3 02/24/15.


The Crash (FRI) 06/23/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Black Danger vs Oraculo
2) Rey Horus © vs Matt Sydal, Lio Rush, Sami Callihan [The Crash CRUISER]
3) Douglas James, Flip Gordon, Jack Evans vs Bestia 666, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mr. 450
4) Jeff Cobb & Keith Lee vs Brian Cage & Willie Mack
5) Penta Zero M & The King vs La Máscara & M-ximo
6) Daga vs Garza Jr., Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario [hair, cage]

The main event is billed as a tag match but only one person is losing their hair (so it’s a four way.) Nicho getting one last payday before his operation seems like the most likely option.

Maximo is “M-ximo” here. Interesting he changes his name and La Mascara has not. The fourth match has a lot of large men who like to do an occasional flip. Second match looks good, should probably not be the second match.

In theory, when Konnan said The Crash wanted to work out what they were going to do for video (TV, YouTube, iPPV, whatever) by next month, he meant by this show. In reality, I’m not really expecting anything it until it happens.

new lucha videos for the weekend of June 3rd, 2017


CMLL on 2017-06-02
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-06-02 @ Arena México
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Violencia
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Virus
3) Rey Cometa vs Dragón Rojo Jr. in a lightning match
4) Hechicero, Pierroth, Rush vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
Gran Alternativa

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-06-03
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-05-30 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Astral, Magnus, Star Black vs Metálico, Nautilius, Sangre Azteca – no start
2) Marcela, Silueta, Skadi vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora – no finish

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-06-05
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-06-04 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs El Hijo del Diablo, Eterno, Oficial 911
2) Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Freelance vs Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera, Pantera I
3) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Oficial AK47 & Oficial Fierro for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship and in a Number One Contenders Match match
4) Imposible © vs Súper Mega for the IWRG Rey del Ring

indie roundup: Memes, DTU, AULL, IWRG, Leyendas Inmortales

photo by Black Terry Jr.

DTU G21 (SUN) 06/04/2017 Gym Municipal, Irapuato, Guanajuato [DTU]
1) Electrik Boy, Irving, Luigi b Billy, Erwin, Hard Boy
2) Astro Latino & Toto b Drolux & Sirius
3) Angelux b Speed Demon, Gremlin, Loco Latino
4) Pesadilla b Camuflaje, Flayer Boy, Pardux
5) Jimmy & Kevin b Kastigador & Vengador and Chica Ye-Ye & Lokillo
Jimmy & Kevin earned a title shot at Dragon Rojo & Polvora for the DTU NEXO titles.
6) Cobre & Drastik Boy b Jason Cade & Trey Miguel and Crazy Boy & Moria
7) Dr. Pólux, Dr. Pólux Jr., Ovett b Cíclope, Crazy King, Miedo Extremo
Dr. Polux Jr. promised a big victory on the next DTU tour. X-LAW attacked Los Macizos again, with Pesadilla betraying DTU to join them.

Not much of note from the SLP show – except for Dezmond Xavier being a Nerd for the night. I too forgot Polvora & Dragon Rojo were the DTU tag team champions. With that match set up, whatever Dr. Polux is up to and the X-LAW stuff, it seems like DTU is busy all the sudden.

Lucha Memes MDA (SUN) 06/04/2017 Arena Puebla [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)]
1) Arkalis, Millenium, Mini Multifacético, Prayer, Rey Apocalipsis, Rey Samuray b Alas de Acero, Aramis (Estado de México), Arez, Belial, Impulso, Iron Kid (Estado de México)
2) Ángel de Oro & Soberano Jr. b Sadico & Xtreme Tiger
Sadico replaced Rey Horuz (missed flight)
2) Keira & Lady Maravilla b Marcela & Zeuxis
3) Felino & Fuerza Guerrera b Bobby Jack & Toro Bill Sr.
4) Black Terry & Negro Navarro © b Blue Panther & Octagón [Arena Coliseo TAG]
4th defense. Money thrown in.
6) Hechicero (CMLL) b Satánico
good match. Hechicero wants the rights to create his own Los Infernales. Satanico was not in favor of that idea.
7) Último Guerrero b Último Dragón
Guerrero cheated to beat Dragon on the show honoring him.

I think there was some concern about how they would draw in running in this building for the first time, but it looks like it went pretty well in the photos. I almost 100% certain I didn’t understand the Hechicero/Satanico angle right, but know it must be going somewhere because Hechicero brought up it earlier in the weekend too.

AULL (SAT) 06/03/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring, R de Rudo, SuperLuchas]
1) Dante, Euro, Filder b Príncipe Mexica, Súper Astro Jr., Súper Terry
2) Keira b Lady Maravilla, Diosa Atenea [AULL WOMEN]
new title. La Magnifica was announced but didn’t appear. Keira is new champ, adding it to the Crash & CMLL-Reina titles she holds.
3) Máscarita Sagrada 2013 & Mini Rey Misterio b Mini Psicosis Ripper & Pentagoncito
4) Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Terry 2000 b El Bandido (Elite), Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Sádico
Terry 2000 beat eternal rival Sadico. Money thrown in.
4) Black Terry & Negro Navarro b Caifan & Dr. Cerebro
Money thrown in.
5) Dos Caras Sr., Huracán Ramírez, Octagón DQ Canek, Fuerza Guerrera, Villano IV
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. b Blue Demon Jr.
Dr. Wagner Sr., Blue Demon Sr. and the Guzman family was honored on the 50th anniversary of the promotion. Babe Richard was referee. Wagner wore his classic white outfit for the win. Wagner cheated to beat Demon. They teased a mask match, with them agreeing it’d have to wait until after TripleMania.

First a few big shows Arena Lopez Mateos is holding for it’s 50th Anniversary. They’re never going to get noticed because they’re not a big promotion, but it’s probably one of the longest currently running promotions in the world. It’s just hard to stay in business that long.

The Mascarita Sagrada, teaming with Mini Rey Misterio/Octagoncito AAA, appears to be the Mascarita Sagrada who was most recently in AAA as well. It’s the Sagrada who’s been in Lucha Underground, who suffered a serious knee injury on the last day of Season 3 taping. It’s great that he’s back and interesting it’s on an indie show with another AAA mini who’s kinda of working his own schedule. AAA’s rarely using the minis on TV nowadays and I wonder if they’re allowing them to work their own dates.

IWRG (SUN) 06/04/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Power Bull b Shaolin
2) Atomic Star & Lunatic Extreme b Kanon & Keiser Drago
3) Apolo Estrada Jr., Argos, Demonio Infernal b Leo, Rafy, Teelo
4) El Hijo del Diablo, Eterno, Oficial 911 DQ Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly
Oficial 911 returned to replace Pirata Morgan. Eterno & 911 were DQed – maybe for not catching a dive? Diablo said he’s going after Black Dragon.
5) Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Freelance b Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera, Pantera I
best match of the night
6) Trauma I & Trauma II b Oficial AK47 & Oficial Fierro [IWRG IC TAG, #1 Contenders]
winners get a shot at Diablo Jr. I & Black Terry. Oficial 911 fouled Trauma I to give his partners the win.
7) Imposible © b Súper Mega [IWRG Rey del Ring]
first defense. Imposible took 2/3 in another bloody match.

I feel like all the Oficials announced they were retiring at one point. I don’t mind that they’re still here.

LI (SUN) 06/04/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [+LuchaTV, Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) La Pantera & Princesa Tiger b Estrella Explosiva & Súper Estrella
2) Avispón Negro Jr., Flash I, Flash II b Évola, Ráfaga, Ráfaga Jr.
Evola fouled Flash II, but Flash I cardled him for the win.
3) Canek Jr., Hijo del Fishman, Villano III Jr. b Payaso Cocolores, Súper Muñeco, Súper Pinocho
Super Pinocho betrayed Super Muneco once again.
4) Hijo del Lizmark, Rayman, Súper Astro DQ Cien Caras Jr., Máscara Año 2000, Mr. Águila
Mascara fouled Rayman
5) Canek & Máscara Sagrada DQ El Fantasma & Rayo de Jalisco Jr.
Mascara 2000 & Cien Caras Jr. ran in for DQs.

Two straight DQs and a team breaking up isn’t something I’d be that interested in a show, but then this show wasn’t for me with any sort of finish.

Dick Togo & Douki beat Dr. Cerbero & Hanaoki in Coliseo Coacalco.

There will be a Mesias tribute show in Puerto Rico on 09/23. Rey Mysterio, Cage, MVP and Ivelisse are also appearing. Hugo Savinovich is promoting under the same Wrestling Superstar name they’ve used in Chile.

Adrelina has a nice video story on an Arena Mexico maintenance man.

Silueta won in the main event of REINA’s 06/04 show.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

Puebla residents complain about too much trash being left around Arena Puebla after shows.


CMLL (SAT) 06/10/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Astral, Pegasso, Starman vs Disturbio, Nitro, Virus
3) Ángel de Oro, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
4) Carístico vs Johnny Idol, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr., Misterioso Jr., Cavernario, Ripper, Drone, Blue Panther, Pólvora [CMLL LH, semifinal]

I think tomorrow’s match in Guadalajara is not going to determine a champ, but this one I know is not – it’s listed specifically that way. Caristico would normally be the overwhelming favorite but the next big win Caristico gets in CMLL will be the first one since his return. If CMLL’s going with Niebla Roja, he might as well keep winning here.

It is interesting that CMLL’s putting these tournaments on what appear to be two of the least important shows they book. They’re obviously busy on Friday, but it doesn’t appear there was anything happening on the other Arena Mexico shows.

CMLL (SUN) 06/11/2017 Arena México
1) Leono & Sensei vs Apocalipsis & Cholo
2) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Skadi vs La Comandante, Metálica, Tiffany
3) Blue Panther Jr., Drone, The Panther vs Cuatrero, Sansón, Universo 2000 Jr.
4) Blue Panther, Dragón Lee, Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Ephesto, Luciferno
5) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible

Case in point. Last Sunday’s finish was on Niebla Roja & Euforia and they’re not back. TGR is back though. Universo gets the third man spot in NGD on this show. CMLL’s not really good at booking four person teams. Or five person teams, I guess.

CMLL (SUN) 06/11/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Patriarca & Mr. Ángel vs Destello & Destructor
2) El Alteño, Explosivo, Johnny Dinamo vs Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
3) El Rielero, Magnum, Vaquero Jr. vs Difunto, Joker, Sádico
4) Black Sugar, El Divino, Fantástico, Tigre Blanco vs Gran Kenut, Guerrero de la Muerte, Linterna, Thunder Boy
5) Star Black vs Nautilius [mask]

Nautilius betrayed Star Black about a month ago, and it seemed to be headed to a mask match right away.

06/04/2017 Verano de Escandalo Results (Soul Rocker & Carta Brava unmasked)

Soul Rocker/Carta Brava (photo by AAA)

AAA TV (SUN) 06/04/2017 Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua [AAA, MT, Record]
1) Máscara de Bronce b Hernandez
Mascara de Bronce asked to cash in his mega title shot on this show. Johnny Mundo wasn’t actually there, but Hernandez showed up instead with the idea that Mascara de Bronce wasn’t worth Mundo’s time. It didn’t appear the title was on the line, it’s unclear if the title shot was on the line. Bronce won, but Hernandez took the suitcase with the title shot anyway.
2) Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth b Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
Lanzeloth replaced Ricky Marvin, but Marvin was said to still be around (not around here, but they’re keeping his feud going.) Averno fouled Lanzleot for the win.
3) Pimpinela Escarlata b Mamba [hair]
listed as a bull terrier match, not a bull terrier match
4) Hijo del Fantasma DRAW Kevin Kross, Texano Jr. [cage]
Texano and a cage was added to the match. Unlike every other cage match in AAA, the cage match here was to decide a winner by first person out. Fantasma & Texano left at the same time, so Vampiro declared they’ll have a three way with Mundo for all the tiles at TripleMania. Hernandez distracted Kross from escaping for no clear reason. Vampiro took the case back from Hernandez and handed it to Mascara de Bronce.
5) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria b El Mesías & Pagano © and Aerostar & Drago and Australian Suicide & Bengala [AAA TAG]
Bengala & Suicide are still partners despite Suicide appearing to attack Bengala twice and were added to this match for no clear reason. Mesias & Pagano fall on first defense. Cuervo & SCoria are now the 20th champions. Mesias destroyed Pagano after the match.
6) Carta Brava Jr. & Soul Rocker L Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown and Monsther Clown & Murder Clown [mask]
announced to be a tag team mask match instead of a singles match. Wagner & Psycho beat Carta Brava & Soul Rocker. Carta Brava is Sergio Marca, 15 years a wrestler. Soul Rocker is Ignacio Patino, 15 years old (the former Tito Santana.)

Air Date: July 1 & 8, maybe.

AAA’s pictures make the arena look full, but other shots show rows of empty floor seats. They look partly occupied early on, then not at all later on when everyone smartly moves up.

I said AAA had 2 of 6 advertised matches last night, but I did forget that the Pimpinela/Mamba match was listed as a bull terrier match for reasons no one ever knew. I guess you can call it 1 of 6. I don’t understand why this feud happened, since it never meant anything except to the few people who remember Mamba taking Pimpinela’s hair four years ago.

Top two matches were predictable outcomes, but at least in the ways that made the most sense. The Poder del Norte team only seemed to exist as a way to have a main event for this show while they were running out the clock to Wagner/Psycho, but I’m not sure they ever got them to the point where people really card. it’s a win for those guys, even if they didn’t care, since it was incredibly unlikely they’d get a main event mask loss on AAA TV prior to this.

Pagano getting destroyed in his hometown is straight up WWE booking, so no big surprise it’s being done in AAA now. Just like the main event, the tag team title stuff was just something to buy some time because TripleMania is the only show that AAA really cares about this year, and the title change was just a fake out to see if they could convince the fans of some other outcome. (Like with Poder del Norte, I don’t think it actually worked.) I dread whatever death match he and Mesias are going to have in August. I’m not a fan of going back to Cuervo & Scoria because they weren’t that good as a champs before and there’s some added benefit to keeping the belts on Aerostar & Drago if they’re the guys AAA is trying to send elsewhere as a stars.

You can tell this is being written by someone who doesn’t watch a lot of lucha libre, because they didn’t do the cage match rules the lucha way, they did them in a way that actually makes sense. Again, the draw to set up a three way match is a repeated WWE trope being used here. I never could figure out how Kross was supposed to fit all their TripleMania plans and it doesn’t seem like they did either if he’s maybe feuding with Hernandez.

Maybe it comes off better on TV, but the Mascara de Bronce/Hernandez thing comes off as something specifically written so Vampiro can come off as the big hero. I’m not sure why you would need to write that – I think people would assume ego, but it’s also possible they’ve got the Vampiro rudo turn planned (main event of TripleMania?) and they’re having him be an over the top hero to make it all the more shocking when he costs Psycho (or I guess Wagner, but Psycho) his mask.

working TripleMania 25 card for August 27, version 1.0. Italics indicate match not official.

  • Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., mask vs mask
  • Johnny Mundo (c) vs Hijo del Fantasma vs Texano Jr. for all three AAA championships
  • a dream battle royal with Lanzelot and TBA
  • probably Mesias vs Pagano in an extreme match
  • maybe Faby Apache vs Taya for the Reina de Reinas title
  • maybe something with the OGT vs Parka/Argenis/Ricky
  • perhaps Aerostar, Drago, Raptor versus Poder del Norte for the AAA Trios Championship
  • possibly Big Mami & Nino Hamburguesa versus Venum & TBA for the AAA Mixed Tag Champion

No idea where Kross fits. No idea where Angelico fits, and he’s supposed to be back by July. Maybe they have a match? No idea, but they’re already running out of room and Impact (& NOAH?) guys are also going to need a spot. If Mascara de Bronce was a smarter ex-goat boy, he’d ask for his title match on this show. He may still lose but he’ll get to be on TripleMania and it’s not clear he’ll be on otherwise. How did Lanzelot end up with a better spot here than his borther Dinastia, who seemed to be the one who got him in?

Next taping is two weeks from today in Nuevo Laredo.

CMLL returns to Azteca (US), Hijo del Infierno remain trios champions

Lucha Azteca

CMLL (SAT) 06/03/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Acero & Aéreo b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Sanely b Amapola, La Comandante, Reyna Isis
3) Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa, The Panther DQ Forastero, Sagrado, Sam Adonis
Adonis fouled Rey Cometa
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Valiente b Dragón Rojo Jr., Morphosis, Pólvora
Morphosis’ first proper CMLL match since November (so also the first since he lost his mask.)
5) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja b Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero

An all tecnico night. I’m suspicious Cometa & Adonis may just be working their own feud without CMLL being aware, but it’s better than doing nothing.

CMLL (SUN) 06/04/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Akuma & Inquisidor b Príncipe Diamante & Sangre Imperial
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca b Robin, Sensei, Starman
Rudos took 1/3, keeping the incredible success of Cancerbero & Raziel going
3) Pólvora, Ripper, Sam Adonis b Flyer, Stuka Jr., Titán
Flyer replaced Johnny Idol. Rudos took 2/3,
4) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © b Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger [MEX TRIOS]
11th defense. Casas family attacked the champs before the photo. Champs rallied to take 2/3, the last with Mepshtio beating Negro Casas.
5) Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja DQ Cavernario, Euforia, Shocker
Euforia fouled Niebla Roja

Disappointing but not surprising outcome. Puma has a YouTube channel now, maybe the match might turn up on there.

CMLL Friday night shows have return to Azteca (America). They’ve taken back the Lucha Azteca spot, which aired the matches up until September last year. It’s actually even better than it was before, because they had slipped to being a month behind when they aired and now are only about eight days back, the previous Friday’s show. There were rumors of this for about a week, but it wasn’t clear which Azteca station was getting it. It appears to only be Azteca in the US right now, and not Azteca in Mexico (which would obviously mean a lot more.)

Elite is the show being replaced here, and it’s unlikely we’ll hear any more about Elite outside of many their title belts floating around the indies. The promotion hasn’t existed in any meaningful way since the December tapings, and closed up their office some time back. They were really done by the time CMLL broke with them, and there was never at time it seemed to be going great for them – ok, maybe, but they gave themselves a tough task (running odd days shows at Arena Mexico when there’s already so many) and even being on Azteca7 didn’t seem to help them all that much. The good sign here is at least the US Azteca station liked lucha enough to bring back the CMLL show. There’s no guarantee the Mexico station will feel the same with having the sort of control of production that CMLL’s unlikely to give to them.

The Crash says they raised what they need for Nicho’s surgery and more with their show on Friday and it’s just now up to the doctors to set a date. They also announced the June 23 show will have an apuesta cage match and Lio Rush will debut.

Black Terry Jr. has photos from The Crash show on Saturday in Tijuana and the Arena Lopez Mateos show from Saturday. I’ll write about that show in more detail, as well as DTU, AAA and the shows I actually went to tomorrow.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.