CMLL Puebla: 2017-09-18 

Flip doesn’t know Titan did this for years and the rudos are ready for it

Recapped: 09/30/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla


Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika beat Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja
(15:21 [7:00, 5:22, 2:59], 2/3, n/r, via

Disturbio & King Jaguar beat Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno  
(14:35 [9:13, 2:41, 2:41], 1/3, n/r, via

Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat Dalys, La Comandante, Zeuxis
(10:28 [2:52, 2:21, 5:15], 2/3, ok, via

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Esfinge, Stigma, Stuka Jr.  
(14:20 [5:09, 2:36, 6:35], 2/3, ok, via

Carístico, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. beat Kojima, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
(12:11 [4:11, 2:46, 5:14], 2/3, ok, via

Gran Guerrero beat Niebla Roja 
(9:56 [3:52, 6:04], 1/2, ok, via

What happened: 

how rude

Gran Guerrero winning in straight falls was to set up a title match. They agree to it after the match, but it doesn’t happen (at least here) due to the earthquake.

Princesa Sugehit & Zeuxis continue to feud in their match, and that one does seem like it’s hanging around during the earthquake.


NGD have had enough these triple dives

Guerrero & Niebla came out with great energy, but the action just wasn’t that compelling to me. Niebla Roja kept it to the basic stuff, and it’s really Gran Guerrero who’s trying to established himself by trying to separate a bit more from his brother. (At least in moves, if not style; he’s getting his own submission like UG has his Stretch, but it’s something being used the same way.) An unmasked Niebla Roja should have more to offer than he showed here.

The semimain was a long way to go for a foul finish, though it at least was one they were setting up during the show. It felt like most of the guys were taking it easy and this didn’t live up to the names involved. Kojima still didn’t fit in here, but he seems like he’s having a fun time. Wrestling should be fun so that’s nice to see.

this didn’t go well

The NGD were entertaining in the fourth but didn’t have much to work with. Stigma and Esfinge were up and down, and they were a reminder of how lucky we are that the Cien Caras kids are turning out to be really good. The rudos seemed to do more mat work early on than usual, and their finish on Esfinge looked really good. Stuka does just enough masked that I wonder if he’s going to turn out to be a surprising charismatic guy if he ever loses that mask.

The women’s match was the usual post mask match feuding, with the loser getting the win back clean. Zeuxis & Sugehit are still going full speed with good chemistry, and I’m hoping they get another title match out of this. Dalys royally screwed up on a hair grab of Sugehit and they just repeated the spot. Maybe she’s tougher to grab with the mask. Dalys generally didn’t have a good night, was one of the weaker points of the match, and was a reason I only had this OK. This was a higher OK than usual, if you’re looking for CMLL women’s matches to watch.

NGD put a stop to Esfine

Soberano outdoes Cavernario, CMLL returns to Arena Mexico, FantasticaMania


CMLL (MON) 10/02/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial, Policeman b Arkalis, Black Tiger, Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Lestat, Príncipe Diamante, Star Jr. b El Malayo, Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Princesa Sugehit & Sanely b Dalys & Zeuxis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sugehit beat both Zeuxis & Dalys to set up a title match with Dalys.
4) Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Stigma b Cuatrero, Sansón, Virus LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Soberano Jr. © b Cavernario [MEX WELTERLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
first defense
6) Euforia, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero DQ Flip Gordon, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush fouled Marco for the DQ

Soberano and Cavernario ended up doing All The Moves in their match. It was fun. Attendance seemed soft, but it’s hard to tell with Puebla since it seems to vary on it’s own.

Today is CMLL’s first show in Arena Mexico in 17 days. They ran last on the day after the Anniversary show, then the following Tuesday show was cancelled due to the earthquake and they’ve been shut down since. Last night’s Puebla show was treated ike a regular show, and I’d expect this to be pretty much the same.

There’s less going on with this show too, even with CMLL trying to set up as a big deal. Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero rematch in the trios main event. Their title match in Puebla was canceled, so it’s always possible they may restart it on these shows. Volador, Marco, Cavernario and Euforia round out the match. Rey Cometa, Stuka and Titan take on Dragon Rojo, Polvora and Felino in the semimain. Guerrero Maya & Tiger face off in the lightning match, in what’s a first time ever singles match.

Sugehit & Zeuxis wrestle again, with Vaquerita, Marcela, Seductora and Tiffany as the partners. Templario moves up to the segunda to team with Arakngel & Metalico against Astral, Pegasso and Starman. A minis opener, Electrico & Ultimo Dragoncito versus Pequeno Olimpico & Pierroth, opens the show.

The show airs at 7:30 pm on YouTube


NJPW & CMLL announced the 2018 FantasticaMania tour. The tour expands to an eighth show next January.

01/12 (Friday): Nagoya
01/14 (Sunday): Kyoto
01/15 (Monday): Takamatsu
01/16 (Tuesday): Osaka
01/17 (Wednesday): Toyama
01/19 (Friday): Korakuen Hall
01/20 (Sunday): Korakuen Hall
01/21 (Monday): Korakuen Hall

Takamatsu & Toyama are new stops this year, replacing Ehime from last year. The Korakuen Hall shows always end up on NJPW World, and often does the tour starting one. The rest may air on SamuraiTV. These shows will generally start very early that morning in Central Time.

The list of participants is usually revealed during during the later portion of NJPW’s Power Struggle tour. It came out on 10/30 last year on one of their Korakuen Hall shows, and they have shows scheduled there 10/29 and 10/30. I have no inside information but I suspect the Dinamitas will debut on this show. There should be CMLL appearances in NJPW before then, with the annual junior tag team tournament coming up.

Mil Mascaras is wrestling in Japan on 10/27 (Tokyo) and 10/29 (Osaka).

I Don’t Know What Category This Goes

That program sure sounds like Lucha Underground. There is supposed to be some sort of resolution on Season 4 (at least as far as El Rey is concerned) this month. There’s not that many lucha libre wrestling programs that are casting people.

Except, LU people have said it would take 4 months from them to start taping from the time they got the green light, and taping this year went out this window months ago. It could be the information on the casting is wrong. It could be people involved in wrestling and TV not telling the complete truth. It could be an entirely different lucha libre show.

Part of me hopes it’s not another show, I can’t handle 2x the craziest LU’s already giving me. Part of me figures LU S4 getting leaked out ahead of time by production would be the way it happens.

Sean Ross Sapp writes for Fightful, so I guess watch there for more info. This is a good sign but don’t go planning trips to the Temple quite yet.

UPDATE: Eric Van Wagenen says this is not Lucha Underground. Who is it?

Other News

If you got the Masked Republic Lucha Loot box for September, you got a DVD with The Crash show from September 09/02. It does not include the opening match, but it has the rest of the show shot from a hard camera. This is the show with the LAX/OVE/Divino & Black Boy/Pirata & Maldito four way tag title match which aired in highlights on Impact, and had the Oraculo/Black Danger mask match. It’s good The Crash is doing this, though it’d be better if it was made more available. (I wonder if this video is now also on Konnan’s Patreon; I was under the impression it was just handheld early bit haven’t heard in months.)

SoCalUncensored has a review of the Heroes of Lucha Libre show.

Riot’s 11/04 show in Arena LLF has it’s first match

Nicho is listed on a 12/18 Generacion 21 show. (No location listed, usually Irapuato.) That’s about when he was expected to be back from his knee surgery.

When Karonte unmasked in Monterrey, he gave his info as Isidro Márquez Estrada, 62 years old, 40 years a wrestler. He’s not retiring but hinted he will be soon.

Box Y Lucha #3303 has CMLL resuming in Mexico City. It looks like they ran classic content inside for the lack of anything going on, which makes it more interesting than usual.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update and this week’s Poster-Mania.

TKD reviews this week’s Lucha Underground.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of their podcast, with Lanzeloth and Mascara 2000 Jr. as guests. He says the men in black with him of late are not Dinamtias. Fresero Jr. is also on talking the Lucha Memes match, with the idea they’re setting up a match with him and Caifan.

Shocker has a new restaurant.

Huck Magazine has photos of older luchadors. Everyone likes shooting Fray Tormenta.


CMLL (MON) 10/09/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Astro & Meyer vs Joker & Sombra Diabólika
2) Oro Jr. & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Inquisidor & Rey Apocalipsis
3) Dalys © vs Princesa Sugehit [CMLL WOMEN]
12th defense
4) Esfinge, Pegasso, Stigma vs Cuatrero, Sansón, Virus
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Euforia, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero vs Rush, Sam Adonis, Terrible [Relevos Increíbles]

Esfinge & Stigma keep facing Cuatrero & Sanson, which probably should set up an Arena Coliseo Tag Title Match. Only, the main event is setting up Rush/Marco, and the semimain has the Sky Team teaming up for the first time since their last title defense in March. CMLL can’t be setting up all those title matches.

The match between the world champ and the national champ not even making the top half of the card says about where CMLL has the women slotted.

new lucha videos for the weekend of September 29th, 2017

IWRG feed remains broken. AAA feed cut off during the main event. The extra match they aired was the Llave match from last week.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-30
taped 2017-09-04 @ Palenque Inforum, Irapuato, Guanajuato – YouTube/Mega
1) Mini Psycho Clown © vs Dinastía for the AAA World Minis Championship
2) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs EC3 & James Storm
3) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr.Rey Escorpión

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-09-30
taped 2017-09-26 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara – YouTube/Mega
1) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
2) Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Luciferno, Mephisto, Pierroth
3) Flip Gordon vs Último Guerrero

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-09-30
taped 2017-09-16 @ Arena México – YouTube/Mega
1) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
2) Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero for the mask

great match roundup, week of 2017-09-09

people walking

This week

The CMLL Anniversary show, which seems ages ago now, was a Saturday show so it’s part of next week’s group of matches. This AAA TV week was the first of two on TripleMania and I’ve already done those (and haven’t added them to TV chart yet.)

As I’m writing this, 1AM on Monday, I’ve caught up with all the TV, just short one more indie catch up post. It’s not a lot to catch up with, given how many shows were not around, or had recaps I’ve already posted. It goes roundup->recap->roundup->recap->roundup this week, if I can bother to finish things off.

My MOTYC list is updated. I’ve relying heavily on Rob’s list and this list to find interesting Mexican indie matches I’ve forgotten, so you should check them out too.

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Billy Star & DJZ vs Penta el 0M & Rey Fénix (US)and Gringo Loco & Skayde Jr. Billy Star & DJZ vs Penta el 0M & Rey Fénix (US) vs Gringo Loco & Skayde Jr. (posted by thecubsfan) Penta El 0M/Rey Fenix vs. DJZ/Billy Star vs. Gringo Loco/Skayde Jr. - GALLI 9/10/17 (FREE MATCH) (posted by Fake Fights & Missed Flights) Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-09-10 2017-09-10
good El Gallito & Microman vs Chamuel & Mije LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12 2017-09-12
good Pentagón Dark vs Dragón Azteca Jr. [Aztec Medallion] Lucha Underground: 2017-09-13 2016-06-12
good Matanza vs Rey Mysterio Jr. Rey Mysterio vs. Matanza Cueto - Lucha Underground ep. 335 (posted by El Rey Network) Lucha Underground: 2017-09-13 2016-06-12

Other stuff watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Golden Dragón & Slayer vs La Máscara & Máximo Golden Dragón & Slayer vs La Máscara & Máximo (posted by thecubsfan) Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-09-10 2017-09-10
ok Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11 2017-09-11
ok Ángel de Oro, Kráneo, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Johnny Idol in a relevos increíbles matchLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11 2017-09-11
ok Carístico, Octagón, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11 2017-09-11
ok Retro & Sangre Imperial vs Templario & Yago LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12 2017-09-12
ok Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Luciferno, Tiger, VirusLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12 2017-09-12
ok Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Shocker LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12 2017-09-12
ok Cage, Fénix, Prince Puma, Sexy Star vs Johnny Mundo, Marty Martinez, PJ Black, Taya Lucha Underground: 2017-09-13 2016-06-12
not rated Centella Roja, Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer vs Ares, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11 2017-09-11
not rated Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Disturbio, Espanto Jr., King Jaguar LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 11 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-11 2017-09-11
not rated La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Metálica LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12 2017-09-12
not rated Drone, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-09-12 2017-09-12

Heroes Inmortales, Lucha Memes, CMLL returns to Puebla

photo by Black Terry Jr.

AAA TV (SUN) 10/01/2017 Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí [AAAEl Express]
Heroes Inmortales, XI
Attendance: 8250
1) Ashley, Pardux, The Tigger b Ángel Mortal Jr., Chicano, Hahastary
Ashley beat Hahastary with a destroyer
2) Lanzeloth b Johnny Mundo ©Máscara de BronceVenumHijo Del VikingoSolarisDragón SolarVillano III Jr.AngelikalTiger Boy [AAA CRUISER]
Lanzeloth (in a new mask) beat Villano III Jr. to win the title. Mundo falls on his fourth defense
3) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker b Aerostar, Drago, Raptor[AAA TRIOS]
final match of five match series. Aerostar dove off the lights again (and wasn’t caught as well this time.) Poder del Norte got help from OGT to win, taking the last 3 matches of the five match series. The tecnicos complained to Vampiro, who put both trios in the dome cage match later on.
4) Lady Shani b Ayako Hamada [Reina De Reinas]
Shani beat Ayako to win the vacant title. Antonio Pena was honored after the match.
5) Hijo del Fantasma b Johnny Mundo ©La ParkaRey EscorpiónPsycho ClownHernandezPsicosis IIMambaMurder ClownDark CuervoMonsther ClownDark ScoriaEstrella DivinaHisteria IIMarty MartinezPimpinela EscarlataDave The Clown [AAA LA, Copa Antonio Pena]
Psycho, Fantasma, Texano and Escoria were dropped into the match on 09/07, with Dinastia and Wagner removed. A skit earlier in the night saw Vampiro suspend Texano (for threatening Fantasma Sr. on the last show?). Royal rumble rules with the last two going to a pinfall. EC3 and Eddie Edwards were scheduled but didn’t appear (and AAA had quietly stopped listing them days before.) Rey Escorpion cheated to throw Psycho Clown out, but Psycho came back to do the same to him. Fantasma beat Mundo with the Thrill of the Hunter. Mundo falls on his sixth defense. Fantasma was presented with both a Cup and the title, only for Texano to attack him and walk off with both and the title.
6) Tito Santana L ArgenisLanzelothRicky MarvinAvernoChessmanSúper FlyMocho Cota Jr.Carta Brava Jr.RaptorDragoAerostar [domed cage]
Poder del Norte & the tecnicos were added to the match. OGT, Argenis, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin, the six the match was built around, were the first six out. Poder del Norte tried handcuffing Raptor to the cage, but Aerostar, Lanzeloth & Argenis came back in and freed him. Match came down to Drago escaping and leaving Tito behind. Tito’s lost his mask and his hair within four months.
7) Johnny Mundo © DQ Rey Wagner [AAA HEAVY]
Tirantes declared all weapons were illegal in this match (when are they not?), and Mundo framed Wagner for using a weapon to win by DQ. Sixth defense; Mundo keeps one of his three titles.
8) Pagano b El MesíasJoe Lider [death match]
everyone bled

This will start airing two weekends from now. The paper had the building as 75% full, which is where I’m guessing the number. It looks about right from the photos.

It sounded like the cruiserweight match was good, but no sense on much else. Aerostar really needs to stop doing those falls. The idea of the main event was 100% to make up for the TripleMania match being lackluster, but there’s nothing besides the blood to show what they did. AAA had said prior to TripleMania that HOF inductions would be happening at this show. AAA says lots of things.

Do you remember how the Best of Five series started? Poder del Norte beat Raptor, Drago and Aerostar via foul, and Vampiro declared there would be seriousness in title match going forward and so they’d have a serious best of five. The serious best of five ended with Poder del Norte winning because someone else cheated for them. Vampiro came out, did nothing. Vampiro – the on screen character of Vampiro – comes out of this looking really dumb and ineffectual. He should have a talk with whoever’s writing his bits.

Poder del Norte won match 4 with foul too, which didn’t seem to be a problem. And the heavyweight championship changed hands on a bad referee call. If you’re looking for logic or any consistency with storytelling, AAA’s definitely not the right place for you.

If you are looking for Johnny Mundo to make guest appearances every few months, AAA is right for you. Mundo’s not in Metepec, and not on the Xalapa poster right now. Unless he shows up in Ciudad Juarez, he’s probably not going to be part of this cycle of TV either but will remain champ until then. It’s hard to figure who’s going to beat him. They dropped the Kross turn cold. Psycho seems paired off with Rey Escorpion away from this. If Wagner was going to win, he probably should’ve won here (but that doesn’t mean he won’t.) Pagano? I would hope they wouldn’t book Vampiro to win the heavyweight champion but I can hear you saying they would.

The dome cage finish is a terrible bait and switch, the worst of AAA booking. The original two teams, plus La Parka, had been feuding all summer, they did a very bloody angle on TV last week, and the payoff was – nothing at all? believe us them when they promise to really do it next time? part of a long term issue with trusting this promotion that led to Wagner/Psycho not doing as well as they hoped? the norm? Probably just the norm. AAA is obviously trying to borrow a lot from Lucha Underground, but I don’t remember many LU feuds ending with one team winning the big match and then losing to the same team an hour later. It works so much better when someone really wins and someone really loses, not when all the wins are split so no one’s better than anyone else.

EC3 and Eddie Edwards not being there probably meant little to the fans, given how little AAA’s tried to explain who these people are, but was also AAA advertising people they had known or decided wouldn’t be there. Edwards was long ago announced as being in NOAH at a date that would make appearing here impossible, and Vamp gave the impression he didn’t EC3 want back on the Ring and RockstAAArs show. AAA knew this ahead of time well enough not to mention either of them in their preview of the Copa Antonio Pena, so I don’t think this necessarily says anything about their relationship with Impact. It’s probably more a statement about AAA’s perennial disorganization, which led them to teasing a Twitch stream they weren’t going to do. No one’s less concerned with living up to their words than AAA.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 10/01/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr.R de Rudo]
1) Notoryus Fly & Psycho Kid b Ciclón Infernal & Súper Dragons
2) Aramis b Sansón
Aramis asked for a (trios?) title shot.
3) Titán (CMLL) b Imposible
a rainstorm hit the show during this match
4) Tiger b Impulso [falls count anywhere] Impulso vs tiger (posted by Cada vez Hay mas lucha)
Tiger submitted Impulso on the outside (the first fall attempted anywhere beyond the ring) for the win.
5) El Bandido DCOR Soberano Jr.
Not the title match had been advertised – Soberano didn’t bring his title, claimed he’d come back to defend it some other time – and both men battled outside for the non-finish. Soberano cut up a hand during the match and needed it patched up during (and after) the match.
6) Caifan b 19 Y 1/2Gato De EcatepecFresero Jr.Garrobo PunkHomriga AtomicTortuguillo NinjaSúper PandaSkarletGolden and 10 other people [Memes Rumble]
Caifan returned to win.

This show got savaged by rain that hit during the Titan/Imposible match and turned the ringside area into a mudpit. Everyone likes Coacalo but I think a 300~ seat indoor arena in the Mexico City area that anyone could use would be of great use. Also would be great use would be the CMLL talent being more interested in working these matches; the effort level was said not to be great this time around, and the attempts at trying to mix things up with different stipulations seems to be mostly ignored by the luchadors.

I’m not there, and I can’t watch these shows because they’ve decided to make them not available, but there’s an unmissable lesser amount of enthusiasm around these shows compared to a year ago, both from the wrestlers and the fans. I totally goofed by forgetting to list this show among the weekend shows, it definitely belongs there as much as the other indies shows, but no one else noticed and brought it up to me. That probably says more about the number of people are actually reading this site and how closely they pay attention to any of it, but last year I would’ve gotten questions about when it was happening, the chances of it turning on YouTube, and so on. I’m not getting those this year. You can make money without having buzz, but the buzz – at least on this side of the border – has escaped Lucha Memes’ reach at the moment.

I wrote trios for Aramis’ title shot, but I guess it could be the Coliseo Tag Titles too.

Lucha Memes announced matches for 10/22 in Puebla’s Arena La Loma

IWRG (SUN) 10/01/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Vórtize b Ángel Oriental
2) Chico Che & Súper Brazo Jr. b Ovett & Tackle
Tackle had problems with Ovett after the loss. Everyone in this match keeps having problems with each other.
3) Rayan, Spartan, Spector b Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly
Comando Elite win in their return.
4) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Violencia Jr., Vórtize b Imposible, Pantera I, Veneno
the mystery Men In Black from last week helped Mascara get the win over Veneno. Vortize replaced Heddi, worked twice.
5) Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. b Trauma I & Trauma II
Traumas weren’t happy after they lost.
6) Bombero Infernal b Eterno © [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
Bombero took falls 1/3. Eterno falls in his first defense, losing the title to his rival.

IWRG’s Castle of Terror, a cage match of masked wrestlers where one will be back, is coming up at the end of the month. That makes it a little interesting the masked Comando Elite have shown up here. I am not interested in Mascara’s storyline.

Long time Monterrey wrestler Karonte (no relation to the Caristico family) lost his mask in a three way to Difunto I in a three way match Diluvio Negro. His name is Isidro Marquez Estrada. They ran this as opposition to the Santo show, and didn’t draw well

CMLL starts to return to normal tonight in Arena Puebla. All the shows are back to the days and places you expect them starting tonight, and the Monday, Tuesday and Friday streams are back as usual.

Tonight starts off in Puebla, the usual 9pm CT show on YouTube. The big match is scheduled to be Cavernario challenging Soberano for the Mexican Welterweight Championship. Caverarnio lost this title to Rey Cometa in March, CMLL never booked a rematch while Cometa was champ, but Cavernario will get a rematch against the new champ. Last week’s canceled show would’ve had Cavernaio & Soberano facing off in trios, so they’re running this match even though they didn’t run the angle to build it up. Or at least the plan is to run this match; the hand injury Soberano picked up last night has a chance of changing those plans.

The main event is Euforia, Marco Corleone, Ultimo Guerrero versus Flip Gordon, Pierroth and Rush in an incredible partners match. This will be Flip’s last streaming appearance, as he’s back in Guadalajara for his final day tomorrow. Cuatrero, Sanson and Virus face Angel de Oro, Esfinge and Stigma, which would be the third straight week Esfinge & Stigma would’ve faced the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Champions if not for the cancellation. Likewise, Sugehit & Sanely face Dalys & Zeuxis for what would be the third straight show if last week’s show happened. It’s easy to come up with title matches out of all three of those setups, but it’s no more than one is likely to happen.

Local vampire Lestat teams with Principe Diamante & Star Jr. against Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar and El Malayo, while Arkalis, Black Tiger and the returning Flyer (last stream July 18th) take on Fuerza Chicago, Guerrero Espacial and the returning Policeman (last stream June 19th) in the opener.


CMLL (SAT) 10/07/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Sensei vs Camorra & Espíritu Negro
2) Fiero, Magia Blanca, Retro vs Artillero, Espanto Jr., Inquisidor
3) El Gallito, El Guapito, Microman vs Chamuel, Mije, Perico Zakarías
4) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Sam Adonis, Shocker
6) Dragón Lee, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Back to Arena Coliseo. Guapito makes his wrestling debut, which makes me question his impartiality.

CMLL (SUN) 10/08/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Magnus vs Apocalipsis & Cholo
2) Pegasso, Robin, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Disturbio, Puma, Tiger
4) Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Pólvora
5) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero meet here. These are pretty much normal cards.

The Crash: 2017-06-23 

this is my favorite Rush match

Recapped: 09/29-30/2017

All matches took place at Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California on June 23rd.

Long review short: had this aired on TV (or iPPV or whatever), this would been seen as one of the better lucha shows of the year. It’s missing the one breakout match, but the semimain isn’t far off. Everything but the cage match is good, and the cage match at least has big spots.


Oráculo beat Black Danger  
(6:58, Canadian Destroyer, good, via MegaKakashi619)

Lots of action match. This match is a brawl on the opposite side of the side of the ring from MegaKakashi, so his handheld isn’t really useful for the first half of the match. The best option is 126f’s edited video, but of course it’s edited video.

Oraculo tries a lot of spectacular stuff but it doesn’t come off clean. His opening tope con giro is short, there’s a high knee later where the clapping motion he does to create sound is more obvious than the impact of the knee. The moonsault he does later looks good. Oraculo is much more the moves guy of the two. Black Danger is fine at setting him up and tossing Oraculo around, but doesn’t show a lot of emotional or come across as a personality at all. The most you get out of him is holding his head after a near fall.

this is not a fun ride
Oraculo Moonsault

Rey Horus © beat Matt SydalLio RushSami Callihan to keep The Crash cruiserweight championship
(15:20, casadora bomb on Lio Rush, great, via MegaKakashi619)

A really great all action match, with the three outsiders (including the one heading to WWE not long after this), all giving full effort for a spot fest. Horuz is obviously going to win from the start as the only regular here, but a common thread of Crash shows is how hard the outsiders generally work on these shows. That’s not the norm for foreigners visiting Mexico, but Rush, Sydal and Callihan are going full speed the whole way. Lio Rush sticks out the most, with the big frogsplash at the end super impressive, but the others aren’t far behind. This would be an easier recommendation with a professional camera version available, since a lot of action isn’t really watchable thru the only full version available. It’s also a match that people who follow the US indies may see as covering familiar ground and less interesting as a result.

I had this noted as “Sami clothesline” but it’s really Sydal being a nutcase
pizza DDT

Douglas James, Jack Evans, Joey Ryan beat Bestia 666, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mr. 450
(18:24, Evans bridging backslide Bestia 666, good, via MegaKakashi619)

Fine enough trios match that seemed to go on for a long time, longer than it needed to be. Action was generally strong, and it’s one of those matches where enough was done that I left obligated to call it good even though nothing about it strongly appealed to me personally. Joey Ryan doesn’t fit in the match much, especially on what turns out to be the técnico side, but this is also a crowd that wants to see famous pots and he’s definitely got one of those. Mr 450 nearly pulled a Rey Escorpión, almost throwing Jack to the floor on a corner powerbomb.

always stay aleart in the front row
Jack gets a better hold of the ropes than Dorada did

Jeff Cobb & Keith Lee beat Brian Cage & Willie Mack
(15:48, Cobb German suplex Brian Cage, good, via MegaKakashi619)

The all heavyweight spectacular didn’t seem to be getting over to the crowd early on (and maybe not as much as hoped by the end.) They were doing impressive stuff, but the crowd just seemed to see it as stuff, and no really defined rudo/tecnico sides made it a tougher sell. The dive sequence, or really Keith Lee waiting to let people think about the dive he was about to do, seemed to pick up things and the fans got into it for the next few minutes. Still, this seemed like something that would’ve gotten over better elsewhere. Props to the teams for color coordinating.

Lee does it
somehow even the GIF has an edit

Penta Zero M & The King  beat  La Máscara & M-ximo
(13:00, Fenix top rope double stomp/Penta package piledriver on La Mascara, great, via MegaKakashi619)

Notes: Rey Escorpion debuts, running into help Maximo & La Mascara. It doesn’t work, but they beat up Penta & Fenix after the match.

Review: La Mascara & Máximo worked so hard in their first match here outside of CMLL, harder than either man worked in Arena Mexico outside of the biggest matches, and they’re still completely outclassed by Fenix & Penta in this match. Those guys own freelance journies have made them as sharp as a blade’s edge, with Fenix especially having the confidence to try big moves I’m not sure he would’ve done before. This is still a workable matchup and a very watchable match, and Mascara & Máximo are over enough that it doesn’t matter if they’re not on the other guys levels. This is a hot start to this feud, enough here to make people want to see more. I’m not a fan of the “one team wins, other team beats them up anyway after” 50/50 finish normally, but I did really like Fenix kicking out after Rey Escorpión had helped Máximo & La Mascara get the edge. That kind of survival and the win that follows is something that top guys should get, and those two are clearly the top guys. There’s no real choice but to have the Ingober-indys attack them after to avoid killing off the feud after one night, and I’ll deal with the 50/50 in exchange for that kickout.

two for one
Maximo tried to meet them halfway
bad place to be

Nicho el Millionario lost to Daga, Garza Jr., Damián 666 in a cage match, losing his hair
(24:42, ok, via MegaKakashi619)

  1. Damian escapes (9:01)

  2. Garza escapes (11:38)

  3. Daga escapes (24:42)

Notes: Garza and Daga repeatedly have problems in the cage match. Garza cowardly hides on the apron and refuses to help while Nicho & Damian beat up Daga. Later, Daga accidentally this Garza with a chair. Daga regrets that and tries to encourage a disoriented Garza to climb out with him and leave Nicho behind. Garza insists on staying, then fouls Daga and betrays him while still being out of it. Garza fulls Nicho too, and takes out the ref for no reason reason before escaping. Nicho can barely move on one leg but Daga tries to give the win to him, but Nicho won’t accept it. They battle it out until Nicho falls into one weapon pit too much and Daga escapes.

Garza attacks Daga afterwards, which is the setup to the Rebellion being split into Red (tecnico) and Yellow (rudo) factions. Escorpion, Maximo and Mascara also join in, with Penta & Fenix eventually running them off.

Review: This is a lucha cage match. It’s not especially interesting. This one is really slow at times, especially when Nicho decides to spend a few minutes building contraptions instead of trying to win. It’s really more a long angle to set up the Rebellion turn that also happens to give Nicho a payoff. The bit of Garza betraying Daga gives this a story these matches don’t normally have, but the massive amounts of dead time for setting things up makes this a chore at times. This is available in 42 minute and 12 minute versions, and that’s a good impression of how much you can miss.

not Daga’s best plan
probably also not Daga’s best plan but at least it worked

CMLL in Guadalajara, Arena Mexico clearance, Heroes of Lucha Libre

CMLL (SUN) 10/01/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Rielero, Star Black, Vaquero Jr. b Frezzer, Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Eléctrico, Fantasy, Shockercito b Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico
Fantasy replaced Stukita
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. b Difunto, Forastero, Universo 2000 Jr.
Difunto replaced Cuatrero
4) Diamante Azul, Flip Gordon, Valiente DQ Cuatrero, Pierroth, Rush
Rush unmasked Azul for the DQ. Cuatrero replaced Sam Adonis
5) Carístico, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero

More or less a regular Tuesday Guadalajara show that happened to take place on Sunday, and would’ve been the thing going forward if they hadn’t gotten cleared. Didn’t look like they were taping it.

CMLL posted the official government report that cleared them to run shows. CMLL was saying they were cleared on Thursday, but that one isn’t dated until Saturday. (There’s at least some confusion; Arena Ciudad de Mexico was on the list of approved buildings next to Arena Coliseo, suggesting someone got the two buildings confused.) They’re back in Puebla on Monday and Arena Mexico on Tuesday.

I’m waiting for full results on AAA & Lucha Memes, like always. The big news from AAA is Mundo is apparently sticking around at least thru Guerra de Titanes, since he kept the heavyweight title after dropping the other two. Tito Santana lost his hair after his trio and the tecnico were added to dome cage match.

AAA’s upcoming schedule has changed. The tentative schedule they handed out at the start of the year had a 11/10 show scheduled for Ciudad Madero. TV has replaced that with an 11/19 show back in Ciudad Juarez. This is at least the third year straight AAA’s tried to run in Ciudad Madero and had to cancel, but at least it wasn’t Guerra de Titanes this year. (The city and area has been under siege from drug related violent crime which make running major shows unwise, much like Juarez was not long ago.)

Pushing back the taping date a week leaves AAA without TV for a week. I suspect that means the Lucha World Cup will air in Mexico on November 18th (about a month after it airs in Japan.)

There’s also a TV taping in early December, but where it is does not seem certain. It was originally Xalapa. Last week’s TV had it in Queretaro on 12/03. This week’s TV removed the Queretaro date, and AAA’s promoters in Xalapa say AAA’s taping there on 12/02. It could be the last TV taping of the year, or the last on to air this year. AAA’s held off Guerra de Titanes until January the last couple of years, and would then have enough TV (plus the usual 3 weeks of best of) to last to January 27th. That’s 4 tapings + whatever they tape in Japan possibly left for the year.

Camuflaje & Junior won the DTU Tag Team Titles. DTU’s hyped this as the promotion losing more titles to X-LAW, but they had already lost these to a CMLL team that had not been on a DTU show since November.

La Mascara won a three way over Penta & LA Park in Arena Lopez Mateos on Saturday.

Garza Jr. & Hi69 defeated Hajime Ohara & Ultimo Ninja in NOAH. This was the match where Fenix was originally supposed to be in before AAA said no, and one that was going to lead to more appearances here if it went well.

The Heroes de Lucha Libre show in Ontario, California drew 2,500. That’d be great for any non-WWE US promotion, though this one said they were going to draw four times that much. If they really budgeted for that much, they’re probably not feeling good (and we don’t know if 2500 paid.) They did appear to be taping the show, so perhaps it’ll turn up somewhere. Blue Demon, Tinieblas and LA Park beat Sam Adonis, Russian Hacker and Trumposo in the main event.

Dulce Garcia (Sexy Star) won her second match, a unanimous decision. This match aired on TV, but the attention and interest for it seemed small compared to her first match. It’s a single sentence in the round up of other matches by the promotion. I’m not sure if it’s TripleMania or just the lack of novelty after she didn’t seem special in her first fight, but it was a lot lesser of deal this time around

Lucha Underground has a promo with Marty Martinez, who is breaking up with Melissa.

El Universal visits a personal El Santo museum.


Mexa Wrestling (SAT) 10/21/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Toxin & Tromba vs Kastigador & Vengador
2) Kalibus vs CobreCentvriónRafyMetaleón
3) Atomic Star, Demonio Infernal, Dinamic Black vs Eric Ortiz, Kamikaze (Nuevo León), Kratoz (Nuevo Leon)
4) Eterno vs El Bandido
5) Flamita & Steve Pain vs Arez & Látigo
6) Daga & Xtreme Tiger vs Aramis & Fly Warrior

Full card for debut show of this promotion. These should be fun matches if they come off.

The Crash Revolucha (SUN) 11/05/2017 Gimnasio Nuevo Leon Unidad, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon
1) Arkángel Divino & Black Boy vs Astrolux & Sombra De Plata
2) Christi Jaynes, Diosa Quetzal, Keyra vs Black Danger (Baja California), Tiago, Último Maldito
3) Flamita, Flip Gordon, Último Ninja vs Laredo Kid, Mr. 450, Sammy Guevara
4) Jack Evans, M-ximo, Máscarita Dorada vs Bestia 666, Black Taurus (Indie), Demus 3:16
5) Brian Cage, Carlito, Willie Mack vs Hanson, Keith Lee, Raymond Rowe
6) Penta 0M, Rey Mysterio 619, The King vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

The Crash goes to Monterrey – and Garza Jr. isn’t booked, probably because he’s in Impact. Carlito looks a bit out of place in that semimain, but it’s a good card.

Flip being back on these shows is interesting. The Crash seemed to be under the impression they could no longer book ROH guys, until the Young Bucks read about it and said they could still work there.

CMLL Friday night return lineup announced, Heroes Inmortales Sunday


CMLL’s posted their lineup for next week

CMLL (FRI) 10/06/2017 Arena México
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Vangellys
3) Valiente vs Hechicero [lightning]
4) Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis [Relevos Increíbles]
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Soberano Jr. vs Luciferno, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero
6) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Último Guerrero

It’s leaning towards a regular show, with maybe the guys in the fifth match bumping out guys (or women) who would be in the second match. Getting the stars work is going to be the short term priority. They’re picking up as if they haven’t been missing for weeks, with the Negro Casas/Sam Adonis feud seemingly heading to a big match on 10/28 or 11/04.

CMLL’s not posted a lineup for Friday yet. They have put up the usual video preview, with Sagrado announcing Ultimo Guerrero, Mistico, Negro Casas, Dragon Lee, Barbaro Cavernario and Soberano for the show. Ovaciones says the planned main event is Caristico, Marco Corleone, and Diamante Azul vs Ultimo Guerrero, Gran Guerrero and Shocker.

CMLL’s also put up the Zeuxis/Princesa Sugehit mask match.

Heroes Inmortales is this Sunday. It does not appear to be streaming. AAA clearly told the announcers to push the idea of the show airing on Twitch, so something happened (or didn’t happen) this week. It will turn up on TV starting about two weeks from now.

The full card is here.  The listed start time is 6pm CT, which means 6:40 on AAA’s clock. AAA had said they were doing Hall of Fame inductees at this show prior to TripleMania, but there’s been no mention of those in the leadup. Some thoughts on the matches they did mention.

  1. The Reina de Reinas title has never meant as much to the fans as the person who’s holding it at that moment (usually due to promotional lack of interest.) It would probably mean a lot to Lady Shani to win but would not make her much bigger of a star to the fans if she did it like that. If Ayako is going to available for a while, or even just for the major shows, it’d be better for Hamada to win and Shani to chase for a while. If not, it’s not like Shani’s winning is any worse for that title than it was before. My hunch is Shani is going to win so AAA can say they’re getting it right now, but they would’ve largely missed the point.
  2. Likewise, the Cruiserweight championship doesn’t mean much because AAA’s given up on caring about it for months (years?) at a time. I feel the opposite of the women’s title situation here: Hijo del Vikingo should win it right away, to immediately establish him as someone fans need to pay attention too and not just one guy in pack of new names. There’s no one really to chase and AAA needs all the new names it can get. Mascara de Bronce seems more likely to win, but it would be counterproductive given how much he’s been destroyed on TV – it would make the Cruiserweight Title a jobber title, and there’s no need for that. Either way, the multiman match should be exciting, and Mundo losing a title here probably tells the tale for the rest of his title matches.
  3. There’s more interesting possibilities with Poder del Norte as trios champs – AAA has limitless combinations of tecnicos they could throw together as a team to face them – and I think they’re getting it as a reward for their mask loss. It would mean that no one’s in that Golden Opportunity had anything work out for them: Venum lost the mixed tag title match, Lanzelot lost in the Copa TripleMania, Raptor would lose his trios title match, and Mascara de Bronce never even got his shot.
  4. The Latin American Title match is the hardest one to pick. Texano & Fantasma don’t especially need it, though it would add to the importance of the championship if it was part of a feud that heated. Psycho Clown doesn’t really need it, and should be focusing on whoever wins the last title match. It could be a La Parka prize, it could be something sent to Impact as part of the cross over promotion. Escorpion and Marty are both doing a lot right now and wouldn’t be outrageous winners. I have no feel for this at all.
  5. Rey Wagner beating Johnny Mundo, giving AAA a setup to do another Wagner/Psycho match at Guerra de Titanes, seems like the easiest way to go. (It also leaves Mundo up to face Vampiro, or Mundo to just go home, or maybe both.) These two don’t seem like they’d mesh well on paper, but the crowd is going to be into Wagner anyway. Mundo should be able to hide in the other two matches but they’re asking a lot out of him.
  6. Lucha cage matches are dumb. Dome cage matches are dumb. I presume Ricky Marvin is losing because any other outcome would be dumb.
  7. Joe Lider has not won a match on AAA TV since April. I don’t think that’s changing, but it seems a pretty strong hint that AAA had no plans to put Lider on TV until their attempt at doing a draw/non finish at TripleMania bombed. Lider’s there to do stuff no one else would agree to do, and to let this feud keep going until Guerra de Titanes.

It’s another slow weekend. Today’s shows include

Sunday has

AAA Japan announced a bunch of matches for the 10/09 Lucha Underground show in Tokyo, prior to the World Cup

This show is expected to air as highlights on SamuraiTV. It’s unclear if it’ll air any other way.

In something just announced a couple days ago, Dulce Garcia (Sexy Star) has a boxing match tonight. It’ll air in Mexico on Televisa Deportes. She’s facing a 0-1 fighter who just fought about six weeks ago. People who know boxing say Dulce was unimpressive in her first match and needs to do better this time.

Lucha Underground has Catrina and Ivelisse promos for their match next week.

Rio Grande’s The Monitor has an interview with Penta Zero M before his match there against Ultimo Ninja & MechaWolf on 10/21.

Powerbomb.TV has a Puma King promo for his 10/22 match against John Silver.

Segunda Caida reviews a couple lucha matches from eariler this year.

lucha TV preview for weekend of September 29th

full size

I think I’m still out of sorts with CMLL shows to keep rhythm. Guess we see next week.

CMLL streams resume on Monday with a Cavernario/Soberano match that seems like it’s must see. Meanwhile, Flip Gordon makes his last streaming appearance on the rudo side of a Relevos Incredibles. Are they setting up a women’s title match in the undercard, or yet another Euforia/Marco title match?

AAA has an hour and change of TV you haven’t seen before getting to the Twitch streamed stuff. Rhythm seems off here, with four out of six weeks skippable because the shows have already aired in unedited form (though last week had a Dorian and Vampiro conversation.)

I don’t feel as strongly about the rest of Lucha Underground’s Ultima Lucha 3 as I did Fox/Killshot. There’s some really great matches still, and this week’s Fenix/Marty match is definitely going to bring out the emotions of the participants and the people watching. The issue is I think you didn’t have to watch the last 36 episodes to appreciate that match, while the stuff coming up is more rewarding to those who’ve watched all or most of the series so far.

Two IWRG shows this week would be exciting if the AYM feed wasn’t broke all week and I don’t know how to fix it on my end and I’m not sure if it’ll ever be fixed. It’s possible those uploads are done.

1990 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

the two young men in the main event would go onto have decent careers

I added 1990 lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio (but a few from Lerdo!), to the luchadb database over the last week. They’re integrated the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. I thought I was going to stop doing these for a while but it’s easy monotonous work that doesn’t require a lot of translation and I’m good at that.

Running total of recent events

year events
1985 150
1986 154
1987 152
1988 176
1989 188
1990 170


This year was tougher than the nearer ones. I have been search these lineups out by a text search thru their archive. Siglo’s text index is broken from July 16 to the end of the year leaving no way to search. I instead went thru every Thursday (for Arena Olimpico Laguna) and every Sunday paper to look for lineups, but I’m sure there were results, articles, and odd day lineups that I probably missed. On the other hand, this went quicker because I zeroed in on a year instead of doing five at a time, and I was usually doing those sort of check every Thursday/Sundays after the fact to find missing shows. It looks like 1991 won’t have the same problem.

My favorite bit, and one of the reasons why I really wanted to do 1990, was finding the first matches of Ultimo Guerrero. He started under the peculiar name of Flanagan, and he started out sooner than we knew. His first match is always said to be in September of 1990, but Flanagan starts appearing on AOL cards as early as June 24. He appears regularly, and quickly gets into a feud which leads to a minor (lightweight!) title match. That feud continues in a singles match the same day as the Asai/Casas match up there. The paper writes it up like so:

Un combate espectacular se anunica para el tercer turno de la tarde, y que en mano a mano se ven las caras Super Punck y Flanagan; un duelo de acróbatas que debera de resultar emocionante para el publico y en donde no existe un favorito.

Super Punck (or Super Punk) is the luchador who would later become Ultimo Rebelde, Hooligan and now Luciferno.  (I think the current Super Punk in the arena is possibly ex-CMLL’s El Rebelde, or some other relative.) Baby Ultimo Guerrero and Baby Luciferno in an acrobatic duel is amazing thought. The two started teaming together later in the year. They’re many years away from that team taking them to Promo Azteca and the rest of their careers.  Still, it seemed like at least the Dipp family booking Arena Olimpico Laguna figured out not-yet-Ultimo Guerrero was going to special from day 1 by the way they used him.

I kept track of a lot of articles. So many articles. I split them up into categories in case you’re interested in any of them.

Local Stories

General History

Luchador of the Week type short bios/interviews