CMLL (FRI) 09/18/2015Arena México [CMLL, ESTO, SuperLuchas] 82nd Anniversary
1) Disturbio, Puma, Virus b Esfinge, Fuego, The Panther Rudos took 1/3
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo, Stuka Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión Tecnicos took 2/3
3) Dark Angel b Princesa Sugehit announced as mano a mano, not a lightning (10 minute time limit). Dark Angel’s farewell match. Dark Angel won with a reinera. She thanked the fans and Paco Alonso.
4) Dragon Lee, Mistico, Valiente b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas Tecnicos took 2/3 to loud boos
5) Shocker, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. DQ Marco Corleone, Rush, Thunder[Relevos Increíbles] Shocker replaced LA Park on 09/07, Marco Corleone replaced Dr. Wagner on 09/11. Team Volador took 2/3, the last when Rush got himself DQed. Volador challenged Rush to a hair match.
6) Atlantis b La Sombra [mask] Atlantis won Sombras mask, taking the first fall by DQ when Rush interfered, and the last by Atlantida. Sombra is Manuel Alfonso Andrade Oropez, 25 years old, from Gomez Palacio.
Main event was excellent and most watch. Fanbase didn’t exactly thing so; attendance was down to around 85%, with the biggest empty areas in the mid priced seats. The most expensive and the cheapest looked pretty much as sold out as last year, but the overall gate is going to be done.
Still, Atlantis defending his mask appears to be the best draw in CMLL (maybe in Mexico), and it would not be a surprise for him to keep doing it every year. No one else is coming close to the putting that many people in the building at those prices, the issue is finding people who might still make it feel like he’s in danger of losing. Ultimo did that last year, Sombra did that this year. The immediate post match idea seemed to be Rush versus Atlantis. Rush never losing his hair helps, but they’re going to have to keep building him over the next year to make it work.
Rest of the card was ok to good match which won’t be remembered much. Crowd did not treat Dark Angel’s retirement match as any big deal, it was the weakest reaction of anything on the show. Thunder was awful in person.
SuperLuchas has a lengthy interview with Dark Angel, talking about her time in Mexico and that chewed pencil. While she doesn’t plan to wrestle in Mexico again, she hopes to return on vacation to see her friends.
CMLL (FRI) 09/25/2015Arena México
1) Pegasso & Starman vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Fantasy, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico
3) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
4) Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero vs Pólvora, Rey Escorpión, Thunder
5) Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente vs La Máscara, La Sombra, Marco Corleone
6) Volador Jr. vs Rush
They’re wasting no time starting off Volador & Rush. It seems like it should be a while before the match actually happens, but anything is possible in a place where Sombra lost his mask off a month and a half build. This is only the second time they’ve faced; Rush defeated Volador via La Mascara interference last year.
CMLL (FRI) 09/18/2015 Arena México 82nd Anniversary
1) Disturbio, Puma, Virus b Esfinge, Fuego, The Panther
Rudos took 1/3
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo, Stuka Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
Tecnicos took 2/3
3) Dark Angel b Princesa Sugehit
announced as mano a mano, not a lightning (10 minute time limit). Dark Angel’s farewell match. Dark Angel won with a reinera. She thanked the fans and Paco Alonso.
4) Dragon Lee, Mistico, Valiente b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Tecnicos took 2/3 to loud boos
5) Shocker, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. DQ Marco Corleone, Rush,Thunder [Relevos Increíbles]
Shocker replaced LA Park on 09/07, Marco Corleone replaced Dr. Wagner on 09/11. Team Volador took 2/3, the last when Rush got himself DQed. Volador challenged Rush to a hair match.
6) Atlantis b La Sombra [mask]
Atlantis won Sombras mask, taking the first fall by DQ when Rush interfered, and the last by Atlantida. Sombra is Manuel Alfonso Andrade Oropez.
Sombra, Manuel Alfonso Andrade Oropeza, is the latest victim of Atlantis. The 25 year old lost his mask in the main event of the CMLL 82nd anniversary show in one of the best matches of the year.
The event seemed to draw slightly but noticeably less than last year. The show was viewed on iPPV but more than 10,000 people over the Internet, though few probably actually paid.
DTU (THU) 09/17/2015Arena Aficion [Black Terry Jr., Funcion Estelar]
1) Chica Ye-Ye, Joven Maravilla, Luigi b Gio El Malcriado, Lunatic, Perro Negro Debut match for Luigi, a kid Nerd. He did well.
2) Tony b Kevin and Jimmy Tony beat Kevin and then Jimmy to win the battle of the Nerds.
3) Pesadilla b Rocky Lobo, Lanzeloth No Artikus (personal issues). Lobo beat Lanzeloth with a springboard frog splash, Pesadilla beat Lobo with a double underhook piledriver
4) Cerebro Negro, Corsario Negro, Ovett b Ángel o Demonio, Drako Omega, Fantasma de la Ópera [Relevos Increíbles] Fun match with all six having good moments. Cerebro Driver on Drako for the win.
5) Septimo Dragon b Chico Che, Aero Power, El Exótico, Black Fire Chico Che beat Exotico with a splash (despite a messed up ref count), Septimo Dragon beat Aero Power, Black Fire beat Septimo Dragon, and Chico Che defeated Black Fire for the win.
6) Halloween b Damián 666, Psicosis II, One Man Kru Halloween beat One Man Kru in an extreme match. Halloween this was his final lucha extreme match in DTU.
7) Cíclope & Violento Jack b Aero Boy & Miedo Extremo crazy extreme match with light tubes, thumb tacks and boards. Ciclope beat Miedo Extremo after lots of black mist and a top rope light tube splash. Violento Jack offered Ciclope a no ropes barbed wire title match when they next return to Arena Aficion, and Ciclope accepted. Lots of big money thrown in.
Show was good and definitely worth the trip out to Pachuca (which looked like a nice city.) I liked the Dinastia Crazy match the most, but the fourth match really exceeded expectations. Main event was not my style, but they worked very hard. Money was thrown in on just about every match.
Today’s the Anniversary show, Sombra versus Atlantis. I wrote a preview over on Voices of Wrestling. The lineup is a disappointment, but the show should still be memorable. I picked Sombra over Atlantis in the preview. More and more people who we’ve asked in Mexico are picking Atlantis. Part of that is the way they’ve built it up, part of it are these are 20/30-ish people who’ve watched Atlantis since they were little and do not want to see him lose his mask (especially to a relative newcomer like Sombra; I’m feeling they would’ve been more OK with Ultimo Guerrero winning.)
Internet in Arena Mexico at a packed show has always been horrible for me, so probably no coverage during the show. I may sneak in a Periscope while we’re walking around the stands before the show. A new podcsat will come out sometime early tomorrow morning.
The show will air on iPPV for a listed $10USD (but really more like $12 when they tack on fees.) CMLL has said there is no VOD. I’m not sure if I believe them, but I wouldn’t suggest you order hoping for that. I hope this works great, but it’s the first time out and there’s always an issue on the first time out.
I spotted a video billboard advertising the CMLL iPPV a far distance away from Arena Mexico yesterday, so I suspect it’s being advertised a little bit around town. A short news feature on Dark Angel’s retirement was among the the items airing on the TV screens on the subway. Mexico City feels too big (and CMLL not big enough) for the Anniversary show to become the major thing in the city for even a day, but they do seem to be getting a respectable amount of media attention going into show. I’m not sure of a sell out until we get to the building; there are still tickets on sale this afternoon, but they tend to sell a lot in the hours before the show.
Atlantis (with KeMonito!) made his scheduled appearance in Villahermosa yesterday. He told the interviewer that he’d definitely retire – if he won the lottery with the CMLL luchadors on the tickets. He doesn’t want to think or talk about what he might do if he loses the mask match.
People who aren’t as excited for the Dark Angel farewell match seem to include Marcela, who’s quoted as saying Dark Angel was good but not really that good and was lacking some humility. Marcela also claimed Dark Angel was just like any other foreigner who came to Mexico just to springboard into a better position elsewhere. Ten years seems like an awful slow springboard. Marcela’s next quote is about how she’s thrilled to be working in the United States herself.
Mr. Niebla is thankful of being on the anniversary show, though he wish he had a title or an apuesta match.
AAA will record TV in Ciudad Juarez in November, according to a Facebook post. Rey Misterio will be on the card. It’d be unimaginable for AAA to tape there a few years ago. It’s their first taping in Juarez at all since 2002.
CMLL (TUE) 09/15/2015Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno b El Divino & Reycko
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca b Gallo, Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther DQ Boby Zavala, El Cuatrero, Sansón Esfinge and Boby are feuding, with Boby fouling Esfinge for the DQ.
4) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado moved down a spot.
5) Metálico b Omar Brunetti [hair] Zavala distracted the referee to allow Metalico to get in a foul for the win. Omar lost his hair for the first time..
6) Máximo, Super Porky, Valiente b Euforia, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
Thought there was a possibility the Gringos would lose their hair, because the Panteras have only been champs for a short time. Maybe they’ll have a rematch.
Cara Lucha (WED) 09/16/2015Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Furia de Titanes, KronoSport, thecubsfan]
1) Rey Fenix b Death Fly, Imperio Negro, Ying Sang, Balack
2) Centvrión & Látigo b Fly Warrior & Mr. Leo Fly Warrior replaced Metaleon. Great match. The Kriminal Boys welcomed Fly Warrior into their group after the match, but Fly Warrior rejected them. Centviron, Latigo and Fly Warrior attacked the Kriminal Boys and formed their own group, Mala Hierba.
3) Sky Man b Rayo Star, Principe Diamante Flyer did not show, so a tag match was turned into a three way. Principe Diamante was concussed early in the match and the match struggled until he was eliminated. Skyman beat Rayo Star for the win.
4) Aeroboy & Violento Jack b Fly Star & Toxin Hard hitting match, with the Compadres Extremos winning in the first three fall match of the night.
5) Centinela, Epydemius, Ultimo Ninja b Andy Boy, Danger, Guerrero Mixtico Danger & Mixitco came to the ring with the ERLL tag belts from Monterrey. Match halted after a Centinela handspring broke the top rope. Match resumed while the turnbuckle was still being fixed, and second fall was very bad due to nerves and not trusting the ropes. Third fall was good, with a huge dive train. Everyone fouled everyone else in the third fall after the ref went down, but the ref got up in time to see Mixtico fouled Centinela. Mixtico tried fouling referee Teddy, but he caught it and fouled Mixtico himself. The Neza Kings tried to taking the tecnicos masks and pinning them, only for Teddy to call the DQ. Epydemius and Ultimo Ninja challenged for a tag title match.
6) Pagano b Damián 666 and LA Park LA Park ripped CMLL in prematch mic work. Extreme match, where LA Park still got DQed for a foul. Pagano beat Damian after LA Park finally left.
LA Park’s promo:
LA Park seemed to be eliminated first so he wouldn’t get mobbed by the fans on the way out and wouldn’t have to talk to the press. (There was plenty there to do interviews, but he declined them all.)
ESTO has a take down of Park’s partner in crime, Dr. Wagner Jr. The article, which has no author listed, calls Wagner out for repeatedly leaving promotions on bad terms. It claims All Elite actually fired the both of them. All Elite did not have both of them on their most recent (and maybe last) Arena Mexico show. The article also says Wagner manipulated a new contract and a raise from AAA by teasing a return to CMLL in past years, and claims his appearances in CMLL ‘only’ raised attendance 20%.
It’s looking like we’re going to make it to the DTU show in Arena Aficion today. It’s the longest trip we’re taking this week and we’re not expecting to be back until early Friday, so probably no podcast until after the Anniversary show.
Mano Negra and Tiera Viento y Fuego still haven’t gotten over Atlantis taking their masks, hope Sombra beats him. Atlantis is asking for a no seconds match (which seems to be code for “no interference.”)
Sahori went off on the LLF promotion, saying the commission doesn’t regulate it, most of the luchdoras are untrained children, and implying the promoter takes advantage of his position. This happened after LLF canceled booking Sahori.
CMLL (MON) 09/21/2015Arena Puebla
1) Paris, Principe Diamante, Zaeta Roja vs Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr.
2) Lestat, Molotov, Oro Jr. vs Akuma, Metálico, Policeman
3) Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Disturbio, Kamaitachi
4) Dragon Lee, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Atlantis vs Rey Escorpión
Atlantis wanted a title match, Rey Escorpion wanted a super libre, no one gets what they want. Going to be tougher for Escorpion to win if he can’t pull the mask.
(I’m getting what I want – Toro & Apocalipsis, hooray.)
Principe Diamante on this show means someone thought he’s still in CMLL despite working the Puebla show. I’d say we will be able to quickly check to see if he’s still with the group, but it might not be the case if he’s out with the injury he suffered last night.
CMLL (TUE) 09/22/2015Arena México
1) Aéreo & Eléctrico vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Metatrón, Robin, Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Inquisidor
3) Flyer vs Súper Comando [lightning]
4) Blue Panther Jr., Delta, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
5) Blue Panther, Super Porky, Titán vs Kráneo, Morphosis, Ripper
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Ingobernables versus Pesta Negra. Flyer versus Super Comando should be pretty good, but this one I’m not sad about missing out.
CMLL (TUE) 09/22/2015Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Flash I & Flash II vs Exterminador & Maléfico
2) Oro Jr., Star Jr., Vaquero Jr. vs Apocalipsis, Camorra, Cholo
3) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
Rob and I return to the scratchy podcast format to discuss the Cara Lucha show from 09/16. Also, we throw in thoughts on the Anniversary show and Heroes Inmortales. Plus the most painfully meta opening you’ve ever heard and I try to figure out what Nelly is doing Friday night. Show runs 94 minutes.
Warning: Rob horrifies me by blurting out the secret identity of one of the IWRG Tortuga Ninjas. Small children and those with child may want to exercise caution on listening.
The only major show yesterday was Arena Coliseo Guadalajara’s weekly Tuesday show (not moved to Wednesday like most other shows.) In a little bit of surprise, Metalico took Omar Brunetti’s hair via foul in their big match. Metalico can’t quite be Pedro Infante bald, so this works out for me. (It also suggests Leono was the one scheduled to lose their hair in their weird feud, though it’s unclear why Metalico just couldn’t win both.)
Today’s CaraLucha show is one of many upcoming cards damaged by the fall out between CMLL and LA Park. My early impression is CMLL was making the indy promoters choose between them and Park; everyone’s ended up with Park, which might be support for the guy who got fired or CMLL not actually giving promoters a choice and just pulling everyone.
CaraLucha’s card now looks like this:
Cara Lucha (WED) 09/16/2015Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) ? vs ??
2) Centvrión & Látigo vs Metaleón & Mr. Leo
3) Rayo Star & Sky Man vs Flyer & Principe Diamante
4) Fly Star & Toxin vs Aeroboy & Violento Jack
5) Andy Boy, Danger, Guerrero Mixtico vs Centinela, Epydemius,Ultimo Ninja
6) Damián 666 vs LA Park vs Pagano
There are still interesting matches and the effort will be there to make up for what was missed, but it loses some of the excitement from not having Rush. Rush sent out a pro-CaraLucha message. The CMLL luchadors seem to dislike this decision as much as everyone else, but are being cautious not to go against their promotion.
Flyer would seem to be either not with CMLL or on such a limited schedule (like Principe Diamante) that they don’t prevent him from working these shows.
The Lucha Libre Boom show has also been changed. Only the main event, now full of Parks and Wagner family members, has been announced but the undercard probably will need some adjustments too.
Hey, it’s the big lineup were missing, with the heavyweight champion who’s also been missing. Alberto makes his first TV appearance since TripleMania in a title defense against Johnny Mundo. The two don’t have any special history in AAA (Mundo’s feuding with Rey before this and after this, judgin from the lineups), but feuded heavily in Lucha Underground. They had good matches there and this should be no different. It’s hard to imagine Alberto losing again in his hometown.
As with those upcoming tapings, there’s quite a few mystery people in this card. The one in the Copa Antonio Pena match could be about anyone. (We know Speedball is coming at some point, but that’d be a strange place to debut anyone since it’ll probably be on of those bigger names getting the win.) The one in the semimain – another Myzteziz/Mysterio trios – seems like opposition for Hijo del Fantasma. No idea on the women in the openers, though it’s slightly interested La Hiedra made the cut and no Apache did.
One more three way tag match, this time actually for the titles. I think this is just the start of continued drama between the teams. There was a tease of an issue between Daga and his Perros del Mal partners in Tehuacan, so they’re not necessarily going to be working together.
Not sure the reason of Drago & Fenix versus Cage & Mesias, except they’ve been seen together in combinations in other places and maybe it’ll work here too.
2, 3, 5 and 6 should all be very good, and it’s not impossible the other two could have some value. This is a good looking lineup.
No word if this’ll be an iPPV. It definitely won’t be a regular PPV, and it’s possible they might just not bother with anything after how last time turns out. It’ll be worth watching when it turns up on TV, at any rate.
CMLL (SUN) 09/13/2015Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Micro b Destructor & Quca Avispon and Micro were the tecnicos in this one.
2) Mercenario & Mr. Brisa b El Tapatío & Star Black
3) El Divino, Explosivo, Reycko b El Chakal, Gran Kenut, Relampago
4) Chica Tormenta & Silueta b La Pantera & Súper Estrella Silueta replaced Kendra (and sides were changed around) on Tuesday. Pantera and Super Estrella had problems, setting up a singles match next week.
5) Neutrón, Omar Brunetti, Vaquero Jr. DQ Joker, Sádico, Satánico Satanico replaced Rafaga, Omar Brunetti replaced Magnum on Tuesday. Rudos knocked down the ref, snuck in a fouls, and got DQed. Satanico told Omar that he’s rooting for him to beat Metalico for his hair on Wednesday.
CMLL (MON) 09/14/2015Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Astral, Asturiano, Eléctrico b Espíritu Maligno, Pierrothito, Saurón Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Molotov, Starman, Tigre Rojo Jr. b Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar, Policeman Tecnicos took 2/3
3) Dark Angel b Princesa Sugehit [lightning] Dark Angel won with the reinera despite Sugehit using ruda tactics. Dark Angel, in tears after the match, was presented with a cermonal flower in a glass.
4) Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, Stigma DQ Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado Stigma replaced Super Porky. Rudos fouled Stigma for the DQ.
5) Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora b Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Valiente
6) Rey Bucanero, Rey Escorpión, Terrible b Atlantis, Mistico, Titán Rey Escorpion beat Atlantis by mask pull, setting up a singles match between them (and not Escorpion/Mistico) next week. Escorpion wanted it to be a title match, Atlantis a super libre.
Half watched this show while packing. Angel/Sugehit or the opener might have been the best match. Strange they shifted the main event away from Mistico/Escorpion to Atlantis/Escorpion.
LA Park and Dr. Wagner are now vetoed from working on CMLL shows. CMLL evidently told indy promotions last night that they could either book CMLL wrestlers or LA Park & Dr. Wagner. It seems like each promotion is handling this differently; Lucha Libre Boom is using Park & Wagner, while Arena Queretaro sounds like they may be going with the CMLL guys for now. A lot of promotions are probably scrambling. The CaraLucha show on Wednesday, a day when a lot of guys are already scheduled to be elsewhere, is probably going to have the hardest decisions to male. Monday seems like CMLL’s big decision day, so maybe this was in the works for a while, but CMLL’s gone from being willing to book LA Park again to banning him completely in the course of seven days.
I’d bet LA Park wasn’t too bothered by getting fired from CMLL, feeling like the attention from the situation would get him booked more, but this stance seems to hurt him more. It also becomes another thing for people who don’t like CMLL to get angry about, another thing to distract people from the match they’re trying to build for Friday night.
Sombra notes Atlantis started out with a lot of big wins young and wants to do the same. Blue Panther talks about the feeling of winning and losing at the Anniversary show. Rush notes this is his fifth straight anniversary show.
IWRG (SUN) 09/20/2015Arena Naucalpan
1) Eternus & Omega vs Atomic Star & Ram El Carnero
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy vs Hip Hop Man, Imposible, Super Jack
3) Diva Salvaje, Golden Magic, Relámpago vs Canis Lupus, Eterno, Shu el Guerrero
4) Black Terry, Freelance, Suicida vs Apolo Estrada Jr., El Golpeador, Rayan
5) Danny Casas, Heddi Karaoui, Veneno vs Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II
Freelance and Suicida back and high on the card. El Golpeador is in a near top spot quick too.
indy (SUN) 09/27/2015Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Draego, Flash I, Flash II vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
2) Chica Tormenta & Pantera vs Felina Metalica & Súper Estrella
3) Hijo del Solar & Huracan Ramirez Jr. vs Canek Jr. & Hijo del Fishman
4) Groon XXX, Pantera, Rayman vs Fuerza Guerrera, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Mr. Águila
5) Canek, El Fantasma, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000
Another parade of indy guys on a special Sunday Guadalajara show. The poster actually says “Leyendas Inmortales” and it’s a lot of their guys, but I’m not sure it’s supposed ot be a show fro that promotion. (It also may be a meaningless distinction.)