como estaz 4×12: marzo

Rob & talk about the upcoming CMLL & AAA big shows, other upcoming events in lucha and good matches we’ve seen lately. Well, he’s seen lately, I’m busy watching Puebla. The podcast goes about 110 minutes. Rob’s connection has some problems in the first part of the podcast and drops out a couple times. It’s better later, though I didn’t do a great job of mixing it. It’s still OK.

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Cavernario/Cometa set, Mephisto can’t stop unmasking Caristico, The Crash to CDMX

photo by CMLL/Alexis Salazar

CMLL (TUE) 03/07/2017 Arena México [R de Rudo]
1) Shockercito & Stukita b Mercurio & Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Cancerbero, Metálico, Raziel b Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Robin LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3
3) Canelo Casas, Puma, Skándalo b Blue Panther Jr., Star Jr., The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Puma replaced Okumura on Friday. Team Casas took 2/3.
4) Virus b Pegasso [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Virus submitted Pegasso in less than 5 minutes.
5) Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora b Blue Panther, Titán, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Revolucionarios took 1/3.
6) Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas b Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Rey Cometa LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cavernario won in straight falls to set up a title match next week

Everyone’s mostly just happy that we’re getting Cavernario/Cometa again.

CMLL (TUE) 03/07/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Difunto & Joker b Magnum & Neutrón
2) Bengala, Magnus, Starman b Akuma, Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio
3) Dalys © b Marcela [CMLL WOMEN]
Dalys took 1/3 to keep the title. 8th defense, 3rd straight against Marcela. Said to be a good match.
4) Hechicero, Kráneo, Ripper b Ángel de Oro, Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr.
5) Carístico, Mistico, Valiente DQ Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Mephisto unmasked Caristico & Mistico for the DQ.

CMLL doing about the same feud in Puebla and Guadalajara at the same time.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara announced they’ll be running their own Homenaje a Dos Leyendas on March 21st (Tuesday), where Americo Rocca will be honored. Some Mephisto/Caristico match would fit for that show. I still suspect Puebla’s running Policeman/Espiritu Negro soon (03/20) as their own H2L match, maybe with that trios title match.

On Sunday in Tijauna, Maximo lost to Principe Arandu in the main event trios match. Arandu cheated and used a foul to win, but it still sets up a CMLL Heavyweight Championship match on 04/02.

The Crash announced they’re running Mexico City on 04/05. Rey Mysterio Jr., Cody Rhodes, and Penta el Zero M are announced (and Rey Fenix mentioned this on his Instagram, so put him down as a maybe.) April 5 is a Wednesday, and running a midweek show seems like a way to get these guys on what appears to be later notice than usual. No venue was announced. Cody is working for NJPW, so this another NJPW wrestler working for The Crash instead of CMLL, and now even in CMLL’s home. I think we should just assume CMLL doesn’t care until something comes of it. On the other hand, Crash running Mexico City makes it less likely CMLL guys will return to working those shows any time soon.

Sexy (Star) Dulce says she’s stopping wrestling…after WrestleMania weekend until her first boxing match. She wants to concentrate on boxing leading into her first fight, so she is taking it seriously. Maybe the important info from this is Sexy lists her upcoming date as including Tijuana, which points to her as being the opponent for TNA’s Brooke on The Crash’s 03/25 show as suspected.

Today is International Day of Women. As every year, there’s an interview with CMLL luchadoras about what it’s like to be a women wrestler. As ever year, a luchadora (Zeuxis this year!) notes they don’t get the same spots as men even when they’re having as good or better matches and hopes some day they’ll get to main event a show (outside of a cage match.) As every year, I think CMLL probably should’ve done this already. The Zeuxis/Sugehit title change on a Arena Coliseo show that had nothing else going on obviously should’ve been a main event, if for marketing purposes if no other reason. I think CMLL’s slotting in matches is more based on more general closeminded approach than only sexism – the minis get the same treatment, I’m writing this before next Tuesday’s car is out and there’s a good shot Cavernario/Cometa won’t be main eventing either – but I’d also bet that’s part of it.

Shocker doesn’t sound close to returning; he says he’s two weeks away from the last operation he needs.

Santo Jr. continues to wrestle occasionally in away from Mexico City indies; his trio beat an Angel Blanco Jr. in Cuernavaca on Sunday in his first noted match this year. It sure seems like the plan is to get him ring time before he comes to the capital, but no idea what happens then. He’s wrestling Laredo Kid outside of Denver next month.

Lucha Memes is back in Arena Naucalpan on March 26th for Chairo9. They’re running a lot of shows in a short amount of time, but have managed to keep people interested so far.

The combined Lucha Libre Boom & La Lija de La Justica show on 04/08 in Arena Lopez Mateos will have a Dr. Wagner vs LA Park match, the first since Wagner signed to face Psycho Clown (and not LA Park) in a mask match.

Mistico will be on Discovery Mexico’s Mexicano, a car restoration show in their upcoming season. They’ll be converting a 2005 Mustang into a “Misticmovil”.

Did you know: Angelito was retied from CMLL because he was too young.

Io Shirai says Lucha Underground told her she’s welcome back whenever she wanted. I takes Google Translate to read, but she talks about the dive off the office as part of a larger interview (and photo shoot.)

LuchaWorld had the latest Lucha Report.

Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Underground Season 3 episode 10.

Rush defeats UG, Cavernario/Cometa in trios tonight, RIOT

RIOT (SAT) 03/04/2017 Arena Femenil, Monterrey, Nuevo León [LuchaMania Monterrey]
1) Psicótico b Muerte Extrema
Psicotico won via plancha
2) Dulce Kanela b Larry Miranda
Dulce won via Skayde Special.
3) Kaientai & Lord Byron b Chik Tormenta & Tony Rodríguez
Tony brought Chik Tormenta as his surprise partner. The Unmexicans still ended up winning. They praised Tormenta, but then surprise attacked her again.
4) Low Rider b Séptimo Dragón, Sammy Guevara
Turned into a three way with Guevera added. Low Rider did a diver off the upper level. Rider pinned Sammy after Jack hit Sammy with a crutch.
5) Alas de Acero, Aramis (Estado de México), Iron Kid (Estado de México) b Erick Ortiz, Kamikaze, Kratoz
moved to the main event after Jack/Sammy was canceled. Monterrey trio is going with “Los Mismos de Siempre” (off Facebook commentators complaining Riot books these same guys always.) Kamikaze beat Iron Kid with what sounds like a really good match.

They offered refunds for Jack not wrestling, but it looks like they still had a big turnout.

This should eventually turn up on Powerbomb.TV, as they slowly roll out more video. Powerbomb.TV starting adding Black Terry Jr. video yesterday, with a bunch of IWRG videos and an RCH show from 2015.

CMLL (MON) 03/06/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, Culticon, NTX]
1) El Malayo & Guerrero Espacial b Hijo de Centella Roja & Vega LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Vega’s first match here since the end of November.
2) Hijo del Signo & Policeman b Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Espiritu appears to be a tecnico for at least the moment.
3) Canelo Casas, Sangre Azteca, Virus b Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora b Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Titan left on a stretcher after taking the Super Polvora Driver.
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Dragón Lee DQ Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Mephisto fouled Caristico. Caristico wanted a title match or at least a rematch.
6) Rush b Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush snuck in a foul on Ultimo Guerrero.

Main event was better than the previous matches have been, thought not must see. It’s the first time Rush has beaten Ultimo Guerrero in a singles match in four years, and he’s had plenty of chances in that time. Caristico setting up a trios title shot of his own is a negative indicator for the Panthers’ chances of winning on Saturday.

Today’s CMLL show seems to continue a build to Rey Cometa versus Cavernario. It doesn’t really make any sense for Cavernario to be getting a title shot, Cometa beat him cleanly last week, but Cometa doesn’t get into main events unless they’re doing a feud. (Maybe they forgot Cometa is champion again and think they are building up a title match correctly!) They’re the focus of CMLL’s preview and I don’t think anyone would object to a singles match between the two even if it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Tonight, Cometa teams with Dragon Lee & Atlantis to take on Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero and Cavernario.

Titan & Triton team up for one may be the last times for the moment  – Triton is advertised in Chicago on April 9th, so he probably finishes up in Mexico by the end of the month and will be in the US for months. They partner with Blue Panther against the Revolucinarios. The lightning match will be Pegasso versus Virus, which might be as good as the other top matches. The tercera has the Panther kids & Star Jr. vs Skandalo, Puma and Canelo Casas. There sure would be a lot more good matches in CMLL midcards if Canelo Casas was good, or if he was replaced by someone better. Robin, Flyer and Principe Diamante take on Raziel, Cancabero and Metalico. The show opens with a minis match, Pierrothito & Mercurio versus Stukita and new champ Shockercito

CultIcon also previews this show, which airs on YouTube at 7:30pm.

Guadalajara has the Dalys/Marcela title match, which probably should be another Dalys title defense.

CMLL says Retro replaces Marvel on Saturday. Retro had one match last May, was introduced on CMLL Informa, and disappeared from CMLL until now.

There’s a rumor going around about Arena Mexico adding a permanent bar/restaurant. Apolo Valdes referenced it on Twitter this weekend, and Tercera y Definitiva writes about it on their blog. It’s nothing more official than a rumor right now. It would be a Freedom Sports Bar, a chain in Mexico. Sports arenas having bar areas is now pretty common in the US, and some of those stadiums keep the bars open even when the team isn’t playing. It’s not common for lucha libre at all; I remember stories of arena run small restaurants being set up at Arena Naucalpan and Arena Azteca Budokan, and I don’t think either of them are still around. The Tercera y Definitiva column points out a sports bar could be, like the Turiluchas bus, something that encourages people who may not be as big fans of lucha libre into checking out a show.

A sports bar wouldn’t even necessarily have to be inside the Arena Mexico structure. There’s plenty of non-wrestling store space in that block, and I suspect the Lutteroth family owns the entire block. They could also convert some of the upper sections that are not really used more than a handful of times a year into something else that might make money the whole year. It’d also give the building an attraction for lucha fans when they’re not running shows and that may be something they’re already considering; earlier this year, CMLL filed a trademark for “Museo del CMLL de lucha libre”. They could probably fit a small museum into a restaurant, or maybe make the restaurant itself a museum. But it’s important to

+LuchaTV posted the complete Veneno vs Danny Casas vs Chicano hair match from Sunday.

A Sam Adonis article in the Economist. A Sam Adonis feature is coming up on Vice. There are Sam Adonis content everywhere.

At the Arena Azteca Budokan show this past weekend, Zorro & Cibernetico each offered the Hijo de Rey Misterio Rebelion and Radicals shirts, and he turned them both down. Maybe offering shirts will be the storyline bit of 2017 like it was in about 1997.

Hernandez, LA Park & Rush defeated Masada, Chavo Guerrero and Carlito in Monterrey on Sunday. (They changed the teams around a little bit.) LA Park & Rush got along well enough that Rush suggested they team against foreigners again.

El Tijuananese interviews Golden Magic and Ronnie Mendoza, both whom are hoping to wrestle internationally this year. I had heard Mendoza was going to WWE a long time ago, but he sounds like a guy who expects to be in the indies for the time being and not tied to a company.

126f has highlights of the Penta Zero M & Bestia 666 vs Rey Fenix & Daga match from Mexicali.

The Winter Palace has a new podcast talking to Dr. Lucha about Homenaje a Dos Leyendas.

RobViper has a music video of Elite 06/16/17.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and the new edition of Lucha Clasica for premium subscribers.

+Lucha’s new podcast has Super Fly, Garza Jr. and Princesa Sugehit as guests.

An article on a mother and daughter who wrestle in Veracruz.

KCRW has an audio story on Casandro.

A visit to Black Cuellar’s school in Puebla.


CMLL (MON) 03/13/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel vs Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Tigre Rojo Jr.
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis
3) Drone, Esfinge, Lestat vs Puma, Skándalo, Tiger
4) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Titán vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Ripper
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Dragón Lee vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Main event is the expected rematch; the rudos are really out gunned. The semimain might be the last Pierroth/Azul trios – except for the months of rematches we’ll get. Lestat gets to be in a promising match, which would be even more promising without Skandalo. (Was Stigma busy?)

IWRG (SUN) 03/12/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Cadilac vs Power Bull
2) Kanon vs Vórtize
3) Átomo & Shadow Boy vs Atomic Star & Chavela La Atrevida
4) Pantera I & The Tiger vs Hip Hop Man & Relámpago
5) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © vs Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera [IWRG IC TAG]
first defense
6) Negro Navarro, Trauma II, Veneno vs Chicano, Danny Casas, Golden Magic
7) Herodes Jr., Silver King, Trauma I vs Imposible, Mr. Electro, Tigre Del Ring

I have no idea who’s a tecnico or a rudo here, but Chicano being on the opposite side of former tag partner Veneno is notable. Tigre del Ring gets into a main event really quick. Chavela is usually spelled “Chabela” and – like Chicano and Tigre del Ring – from Chihuahua. Looks like no Wednesday show this week.



new lucha videos for the weekend of March 3th, 2017

YouTube playlist

No Sunday IWRG; AYM aired a repeat Monday night. I’ll post it if it shows up later.

03/04 & 05 WWC: Cloud Drive

03/04 ELITE: Cloud Drive

CMLL on 2017-03-03
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-03 @ Arena México
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Nitro
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán vs Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
5) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Valiente vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush
6) Volador Jr. vs Yoshitatsu

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-03-03
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-01 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Celestial Boy, Dinamik Kray, Haziel vs Águila Enmascarada, Black Puma, Keshin Black
2) Águila Oriental, Fireman, Omega vs Atomic Star, Odín, Power Bull
3) Kanon, Leo, Mike, The Tiger vs Blue Monsther, Eterno, Picudo Jr., Vórtize
4) Adrenalina, Alas de Acero, Alfa, Aramis, Araña de Plata, Black Dragón, Shadow Boy, Skanda vs Black Warrior Jr., Fandango, Lunatik Boy, Lunatik Extreme, Lunatik Fly, Neza Kid, Quetzal, Tromba [Torneo FILL]

AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-04
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-11 @ Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estadio de México
1) Atomic Boy, Bengala, Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce vs Dave The Clown, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman and Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria
3) Angélico, La Parka, Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-03-04
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-20 @ Arena Puebla
1) Blue Panther Jr., The Panther, Tritón vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
2) Ángel de Oro, Máximo Sexy, Valiente vs Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
3) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Yoshitatsu

AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-04 

super legdrop

Recapped: 03/04/2017

What happened: Monster & Murder betrayed Dr. Wagner. It wasn’t built to in the match or explained after, and Wagner won anyway thanks to them attacking Psycho Clown too. Perhaps if AAA keeps trying mystery angles, one will pay off.

A new look Cuervo & Scoria won a tag match. (The words Xinetez and Zorro are now on the forbidden list.) Soul Rocker cheated to beat Bengala. AAA announced some of the Rey de Reyes matches.

Tirantes was the referee in all three matches and played a neutral referee this week.

There were 26:01 of match time on this show, up about a minute from last week. There were 16:57 of entrance time on this show.

What was good: I liked the three way tag match with no reservations. The opener wasn’t as good as those have been and the main event was a typical AAA main event.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my channel, but looks much better on AAA’s channel. (more…)

Guadalajara, IWRG, Rush vs UG tonight in Puebla

CMLL (SUN) 03/05/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Guerrero de la Muerte b Micro
2) Carlo Roggi & Destructor b Avispón Negro Jr. & El Yaqui
3) El Divino & Javier Cruz Jr. b Demonio Rojo & Gran Kenut
referee was helping the rudos
4) Kempo Dragón, Sky Kid, Smaker b Mr. Trueno, Príncipe Kisho, Rey Trueno
First match for both Sinaloa guys since October.
5) Explosivo, Omar Brunetti, Star Black b El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
Explosivo snuck in a foul on Sanson. Tecnicos will get a title shot next week.

The Dinamitas appear to be Mexico City full time now, so a trios title change seems likely.

IWRG (SUN) 03/05/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring]
1) Átomo b Shadow Boy
2) Kanon vs Picudo Jr.
match not mentioned in the results
3) Black Dragón & Pantera b Black Terry & Diablo Jr.
Dragon pinned Terry. Pantera asked for a title shot and Diablo agreed for next week.
4) Relámpago © b Apolo Estrada [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
first defense. Relampago was bloody and had his mask ripped but kept his title.
5) Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II b Herodes Jr., Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Tigre Del Ring (Chihuahua)
Navarros got along, their opposition did not. Trauma II’s first match here in months due to a leg injury. Debut of Tigre del Ring.
6) Mr. Electro b Hip Hop Man
Electro snuck a beer bottle to Hip Hop Man’s head to win.
7) Danny Casas L Veneno, Chicano [hair]
Chicano beat Veneno first, then Veneno took Danny Casas’ hair.

I held off doing this post to get that Kanon & Picudo Jr. result but that’ll have to wait until later. Veneno beating Danny Casas is a bit of an upset. Hip Hop Man posted a photo of the cut on his head from Mr. Electro’s bottle. Apolo Estrada teased a ex-WWE joining his Insoportables group – Medico Asesino, I’m guessing. This all should air tonight on AYM.

Today’s Arena Puebla show has a Rush versus Ultimo Guerrero match. They had this same match in this same building four months. They’ve had this match in Arena Mexico since, and one in Arena Coliseo that hasn’t aired. Ultimo Guerrero always wins these, and these are just sort of OK of late. It’ll probably be OK again. There are other matches on the card that look better: Atlantis, Carisitco and Dragon Lee take on the Hijos del Inferno. (On Twitter, Caristico says his finish is now known as La Caristica.) The Revolucionarios take on Angel de Oro, Stuka and Titan in another match that’ll be good with some time and effort.

The rest of the card is not as promising. Soberano, Star and Stigma team up to take on Virus, Sangre Azteca and Canelo Casas, where some of the rudos are a challenge. Last week’s issues between Policeman & Espiritu Maligno leads to a tag match with the usually boring Black Tiger and Hijo del Signo. The show opens with Malayo & Guerrero Espacial facing Hijo de Centella Roja and Vega, in Vega’s first match here since November. He hasn’t been working much elsewhere, so he may be coming back from injury.

CultIcon has a preview of the show. It’ll air 9pm this week.

Next week it’ll be different. This will come up constantly for the next month, but this is your first notice that Daylight Savings Time starts this weekend in the US. It does not start in Mexico until April 2nd, so all shows airing from Mexico (except border towns like Tijuana) will be airing one hour later for four weeks starting on Sunday.

AIW had Gringo Loco on their podcast, talking about being dead for seven minutes after his heart attack, and lighter stories about wrestling in Mexico. He mentions DJZ is responsible for getting him back into wrestling after Mexico and getting him into AIW.

At Segunda Caida, Matt D defends Volador versus Yoshitatsu. I think he’s right that it would’ve been better if they just did a straight comedy match that he might do with Maximo instead of Volador trying to do the Volador match, but I also think the fans where whistling pretty strongly at the match in the second fall and is giving Tatsu credit for story telling he wasn’t trying to do.

AAA posted a Super Fly profile that hasn’t aired on TV yet.

+LuchaTV posted a new edition of Aqui esta la Lucha.


CMLL (SAT) 03/11/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Leono & Marvel vs Camorra & Cholo
2) Astral, Oro Jr., Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Espanto Jr., Nitro
3) Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Sangre Azteca, Skándalo, Tiger
4) Ángel de Oro, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs Mr. Niebla, Sam Adonis, Terrible
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © vs Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther [MEX TRIOS]
10th defense

Here’s the thing: CMLL is not going to a book a rudo vs rudo title match unless forced, because they are so far in the box that they don’t know there is a box. However, if the Panthers get the title win here, we might actually get the the Puma, Tiger, Negro Casas title match because then tecnicos will have the belts. And I think that’s a decent possibility.

CMLL (SUN) 03/12/2017 Arena México
1) Sangre Imperial & Starman vs Apocalipsis & Artillero
2) Eléctrico, Fantasy, Último Dragóncito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico
3) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Metálica, Zeuxis
4) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol vs Mr. Niebla, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone vs Kráneo, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Yea, they’re doing Dragon Lee vs Niebla Roja on the non-televisa show again. Oh well.

CMLL (SUN) 03/12/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Sugar vs Quca
2) Cosmos & Johnny Dinamo vs Relámpago & Thunder Boy
3) Mágico & Metatrón vs Évola & Gran Kenut
4) Esfinge, Smaker, Tritón vs Difunto, Espectrúm, Maléfico
5) El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón © vs Explosivo, Omar Brunetti, Star Black [OCCIDENTE TRIOS]
third defense

Triton & Esfinge are surprise inclusions for the local show. And I guess Metatron too, but I forget Metatron exists.

MDA (SUN) 04/02/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Extreme Boy & La Gaviota vs Chica de Arabia & Mini Bengalí
2) Babe Fox & Faceman vs Gallardo & Jesse
3) Hijo de LA Park & Saru vs Karateka Jr. & The Tiger
4) Douki vs Sam Adonis
5) Último Dragón & Xtreme Tiger vs Laredo Kid & Rey Horus
6) LA Park vs Rush vs Lashley vs Diamante Azul (CMLL)

what has Lashley got himself into? Why does Diamante Azul exist? Not sure how much to expect from Ultimo Dragon but that’s an creative semimain. Sam Adonis gets a Monterrey match, though they still haven’t figured out to book him against Mexicans.

03/05 AAA TV Results (Apizaco)


AAA TV (SUN) 03/05/2017 Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala [AAA]
1) Argenis, Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido b Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra
Argenis beat Parka Negra
2) Súper Fly b Bengala [no dq]
Moved down to the second match. Aerostar appeared, but he was still in a sling and not medically cleared. Vampiro appeared to put Bengala in the match instead.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota, Soul Rocker b Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum
Moved up to the third match. Carta beat Mascara de Bronce
4) Angélico & Australian Suicide b Dark Cuervo & Joe Lider, Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan [#1 Contenders, AAA TAG]
The announced Cuervo & Zorro and Bengala & Lider teams were merged into one (and Escoria was there to interfere), but Angelico still pinned Lider for the win.
5) Faby Apache b Ricky Marvin © [AAA TRIOS]
This was originally a lumberjack match with all three Apaches versus all three OGT. Instead, it was announced Mary Apache (car accident?) and El Apache (personal issues) were out of action. Averno offered Faby a singles match with Ricky Marvin, where Faby would win the trios titles if she won but would have to retire if she lost. (It’s listed as championships vs careerS, so Faby may have put the entire families’ career on the line.) Faby accepted and defeated Marvin to win the trios titles. The Apaches are eight champions, Faby & Mary the first women to win the titles. OGT lose the titles on their second defense (first on TV).
6) Texano Jr. © b Dr. Wagner Jr. [AAA HEAVY]
Scheduled as a three way with Psycho Clown, but Psycho didn’t appear. Vampiro instead made a singles match, with Texano’s title on the line. Late in the match, Psycho Clown appeared in the crowd bloodied, and that distracted Wagner to give Texano the win.

Air Date: 03/11 & 03/18 – this starts airing this upcoming. weekend

AAA is a promotion that seems to pride itself on taking things slowly, and saving’s it peak moments for a few shows a year. Until this show, where the seven months build to Faby & Mary finally getting the best of OGT happens in a spur of the moment match. I guess it possible that AAA was changing so many matches that they felt they had to do something big to make up for it, but some of those changes (like Psycho not being in the main event) seem to be AAA choices. It’ This is just random, and make all the slow story telling frustrating when the payoff is something given a segment of set up.

Speaking of long storytelling going no where, The photo of Hijo del Tirantes raising Faby Apache’s arm to signify victory is amazing. Though not for the “women wins men’s title!” bit AAA is going with. Hijo del Tirantes has been making Faby Apache’s life for years, and has been directly been heavily feuding with her for the last few months, as one of the focal points of the TV show. Suddenly, in Cuautitlan, on the TV airing this week, Hijo del Tirantes is a neutral referee with no explanation. Faby’s greatest enemy could’ve cost her career (and maybe her families careers too), but we’re supposed to not think about that because – uh, AAA’s decided to go in a direction? AAA just couldn’t be bothered to have another referee to do the match? I dunno.

Look, I don’t want to see Hijo del Tirantes as a heel referee. The end result here is good. Just, don’t expect people to take your storylines seriously when you can’t be bothered to tell endings to them. To be fair, it’s probably not an ending, and Hijo del Tirantes will be back being a heel referee sooner or later, and none of this will ever make sense. It is so dumb that I’m spending so many words on something not making sense in AAA because that’s the default position and expecting things to change is not smart. I can’t help myself.

(Theory: Did Vampiro come in with a booking change? Because this seems like a booking change. There’s noticeably nothing on this show that built up Rey de Reyes in anyway; the only thing they accomplished was to make you think Super Fly vs Aerostar wouldn’t be happening. Vampiro’s noticeably all over this show, when authority figures haven’t been a big presence on AAA TV of late. AAA switching from going out of their way to remove Pentagon, Daga and Garza off their lineups to changing half their TV lineup and not telling anyone is also suspicious.)

AAA’s sparse on Mary & Gran Apache’s status. Presumably they’re coming back soon if they’re being included in the trios title team, but this was so spur of the moment that I wouldn’t be sure they’ll ever defend the belts until they actually do. Again, Gran Apache hasn’t been seen in a match on December 3, is a guy in his 50s who’s spent his life doing professional wrestling, and I hope he’s OK.

Angelico seems like he’s out of country starting in April, so I suspect he and Suicide’s title shot will be the new long running plot line that AAA’s forgotten. Maybe they can actually just add them to the tag title match in Neza.

Joe Lider is 2 for 2 on taking the pins since the Rebelion left, and they didn’t even need to have him in the match this time. Texano/Wagner sounds interesting until the finish. Let’s all assume Wagner beat up Psycho and never think about it again.

On the Ciudad Juarez show last night, it was announced Verano de Escandalo would take place on June 4th. That’s about halfway between Rey de Reyes and TripleMania. Who knows what’ll happen then.

Next show is Rey de Reyes on 03/19.

great match roundup, week of 2017-02-25

The Panther tope

These are the shows I watched this past week. (This is me remembering to post this on a Monday)

The week started being frustrated with boring shows. It didn’t end boring. I’m already getting behind on doing indie posts in between these, maybe I’ll work on that this week.

recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-03-03 2017-03-03
good Aerostar & Argenis vs Carta Brava Jr. & Súper Fly Aerostar & Argenis vs Carta Brava Jr. & Súper Fly (posted by thecubsfan)La caída de Aerostar en Cuautitlán - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Febrero 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-02-25 2017-02-11
good Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero, Ripper, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-02-28 2017-02-28
good Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán vs Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán vs Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-03-03 2017-03-03

other matches watched

Shockercito new champ, Infernales/Panthers, Lee/Niebla

photo by CMLL/Alexis Salazar

CMLL (SAT) 03/04/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala, Leono, Sensei b Apocalipsis, Cholo, Grako
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Akuma, Artillero, Inquisidor b Astral, Príncipe Diamante, Sangre Imperial
Rudos took 1/3. Money thrown in.
3) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr.
4) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Panthers took falls 2/3 and asked for a title shot. Rudos said OK
5) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Marco Corleone DQ La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush
Angel de Oro replaced Valiente. Tecnicos took 2/3, the last when Rush fouled Marco.

The Casas family is owed a title shot and has repeatedly beaten the Panthers, I don’t think there’s a been a miscarriage of justice which was so obviously going to happen. Tiger, Puma and Negro Casas are never getting that title match.

CMLL (SUN) 03/05/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Grako, Hijo del Signo, Metálico b Flyer, Magia Blanca, Starman
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely b Reyna Isis, Tiffany, Zeuxis
3) Shockercito b Pierrothito [CMLL MINI]
Shockercito took falls 1/3 to win the vacant title (Astral moving up divisions.) Shockercito becomes 14th champion, wins the belt for the first time.
4) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. b Rey Bucanero, Sam Adonis, Terrible
Adonis choked out Marco with his flag after the match.
5) Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Mistico DQ Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
Tecnicos took 2/3. Niebla Roja unmasked Dragon Lee for the DQ.

Niebla Roja/Dragon Lee is a match they’ve already done on Coliseo where we didn’t see it (may have been taped for Retro but never aired), so I’ll be actually disappointed if they’re doing it again on another non-TV taping. The media attention on Sam Adonis does not look to be dying down, maybe CMLL will actually do something with him.

I tried to figure out what I should write about, and then I remembered I had a list of things that were going to happen this week. Let’s just use that!


  • Dragon Lee defeated Will Ospreay in Ring of Honor in what was said to be an excellent match, though a little overshadowed by other news on the show. The show will be a $15 VOD available on ROH’s site at some point, and they’re obviously setting up something to give Dragon Lee a win. Long term, this year’s NJPW BOSJ is going to be the best junior tournament NJPW’s ever run.
  • The Brazo de Plata tribute/benefit show was well attended, though I think every single match on the card was changed (to the point where I’m not entirely sure I have the correct results); even the autograph signing was changed, with Texano replacing Goya Kong. Porky was seen walking around with a cane, which means he probably hasn’t yet got the leg operations he needs, but maybe this’ll help.
  • HUMO’s women show saw Lola Gonzalez, Marcela and Diabolica (Monterrey/Tiffany’s mom version) honored. The one notable result saw Vaquerita defeat Keira, which may set up a REINA title match between the two.
  • RIOT in fact did not have the Jack Evans versus Sammy Guevera match; Jack is still on crutches. Sounds like the crowd took the change well. I haven’t see results from the show yet, just a crazy dive.
  • Fenix did not win the AAW title, losing to Sami Callihan when Sami pulled off his mask again. Show was generally good.


  • AAA’s show had a lot of changes! That’ll be a different post, kind of concerned I’m going to miss something before we see the official results.
  • Danny Casas ended up with his head shaved in IWRG. More details on that show tomorrow.
  • Virus vs Dr. Cerbero sounds like the standout match from the Lucha Memes show. Black Terry Jr. has photos of that shows.

AAA’s posted this week’s TV show.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Dragon Rojo is scheduled to defend the CMLL Middleweight title on next Sunday in Arena Pavillon del Norte, which would be his 18th known defense.


Lucha Memes (SAT) 03/25/2017 Arena Coliseo San Ramón, Puebla, Puebla
1) Astrolux vs Black Metal (Estado de México)
2) Toxin Boy vs Arkalis
3) Prayer vs Virus
4) Sammy Guevara vs Impulso
5) Centella de Oro vs Hechicero (CMLL)

There’s little chance we’ll see this, but Centella de Oro was always interesting when he was still wrestling in Arena Puebla so that main event sounds good.

Volador defeats a joke(r), CaraLucha, busy weekend of shows

I don’t even know

CMLL (FRI) 03/03/2017 Arena México [CMLL, ESTO, R de Rudo, thecubsfan]
1) Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Nitro b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Nitro (posted by thecubsfan)
11:53. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. b Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado (posted by thecubsfan)
12:15. Tecnicos took 1/2.
3) Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora b Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora (posted by thecubsfan)
15:03. Revolucionarios took 1/3.
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán b Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Titán vs Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón (posted by thecubsfan)
18:49. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Valiente b La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Valiente vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush (posted by thecubsfan)
8:45. Tecnicos took 2/3, the last when Azul blocked a Pierroth foul and fouled Pierroth himself. Los Ingobernables destroyed and unmasked him after the match just the same.
6) Volador Jr. b Yoshitatsu Volador Jr. vs Yoshitatsu (posted by thecubsfan)
12:05. Volador took 2/3 in a match where Yoshitatsu spent much of the match goofing around and trying to play an over the top heel character.

Tirantes story is he got a cramp. I think Tirantes thought Tatsu wasn’t going to bother to kick out, or La Mascara was on the very wrong side of the ring.

Yoshitastu said he would like to come back to CMLL and challenge Maximo for the heavyweight championship. Tatsu is essentially a comedy wrstlers at this point so maybe they could figure out something would work, but last night’s match was so bad that he really shouldn’t be allowed back. Problem is, if CMLL was concerned about having bad matches in big spots, we wouldn’t be getting Diamante Azul versus Pierroth.

Cara Lucha (FRI) 03/03/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Kronosport]
1) Astrolux & Torito Negro b Black Metal & Moria
2) Keira b Lady Maravilla, Chik Tormenta
Match was billed with a mystery person teaming with Tormenta. They weren’t there, so it became a three way instead.
3) Sky Man b Saturno [MUCHAS LUCHAS CHAMP]
said to be a great match
4) Glen Calavera & Jerry Calavera b Brian Villa & Willy Banderas and Corsario Negro & Drako and Crazy King & Makabre [super libre]
The Calavera brothers beat Crazy King & Makabre to win after the other teams were eliminated. The Neza Kings attacked the Calaveras after the match.
5) Black Terry & Toxin b Demus 3:16 & Yoruba [Juventud y Gloria, semifinal]
Terry & Toxin face Ultimo Guerrero & Templario in the final.
6) Hijo de LA Park & LA Park b Black Tauro (Elite) & Daga
Park beat Daga after an exchange of low blows.

The reviews are really strong on Sky Man & Saturno (the former Quien Pinta por la Corona winner). Black Terry & Toxin vs Ultimo Guerrero & Templario sounds like a good tournament final.

Triton says he’s got his work visa for the US and will be headed back to Chicago. Not sure when he’s going. He’s booked in Mexico at least thru next Saturday.

+LuchaTV has posted both the Centvrion & Mr. Leon vs Metaleon & Latigo tag title match and Arez vs Belial vs Impulso complete from the last WMC show in Arena San Juan. I’ve heard the tag title match didn’t go particularly well, in part due to the ropes. I was thinking of the wrong week.

The big shows are later this month, but there are many lucha shows of note this weekend:




LuchaRama says they’re running on April 8th at FARO de Oriente in Mexico City.

Pro Wrestling Revolution is bringing Penta el Zero M to northern California.


CMLL (FRI) 03/10/2017 Arena México
1) Fuego & Soberano Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
2) Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
3) Stuka Jr. vs Bobby Villa [lightning]
4) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
6) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

This is a better all around card than last week – Fuego & Soberano are luxuries for an opening match, Volador in a 4th match is odd – though they’re not doing much to build up anything for H2L outside the mask match. Matt Taven isn’t booked yet after all, and the Sky Team are facing the Guerreros. Main event is a rematch of this week’s semimain.