lucha TV preview for weekend of December 25th

20151224ltFriday’s CMLL show is an $10 iPPV and starts at 5pm local time, three and a half hours than usual. The PPV is not expected to have any VOD, so only buy it if you know you’ll be around.

Lucha Azteca will have the Dragon Lee/Kamaitachi match, if you’ve somehow missed it so far.

LATV is following the Titanes en el Ring/ClaroSports airing order and they aired a repeat this week.

Only 1 IWRG show this week, since ChilangaMask is the midweek show..

great match roundup, week of 2015-12-04

This was a quick week! Not a good week by any means, but quick.

Previous recaps for this week: 12/07 Puebla and 12/11 CMLL on Claro, were both weren’t much good

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Aéreo, Dragón, Latino vs Centinela, Mr. Alfa,Pagano AAA on Televisa: 2015-12-05 2015-11-15
ok Garza Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro AAA on Televisa: 2015-12-05 2015-11-15
ok Blue Demon, Electroshock, La Parka vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Taurus AAA on Televisa: 2015-12-05 2015-11-15
ok Black Tiger, Flyer, Magia Blanca vs Akuma, Ares, Espíritu Maligno CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-12-07 2015-12-07
ok King Jaguar & Lestat vs Disturbio & Policeman CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-12-07 2015-12-07
ok Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Canelo Casas, Okumura, Skándalo CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-12-07 2015-12-07
ok Ángel de Oro, Dragon Lee, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-12-07 2015-12-07
ok Marco Corleone vs Shocker CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-12-07 2015-12-07
ok Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Kráneo, Ripper, Último Guerrero CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-12-07 2015-12-07
ok Astral, Eléctrico, Shockercito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pierrothito CMLL on 2015-12-11 2015-12-11
ok Máximo Sexy, Mistico, Rush vs Ephesto, Euforia, Kamaitachi CMLL on 2015-12-11 2015-12-11
below average Bengala & Soberano Jr. vs Akuma & Canelo Casas CMLL on 2015-12-11 2015-12-11
below average Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Super Porky vsMisterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado CMLL on 2015-12-11 2015-12-11
below average Shocker, Terrible, Último Guerrero vs Kráneo, Ripper, Thunder CMLL on 2015-12-11 2015-12-11
bad Super Parka vs Negro Casas in a lightning match CMLL on 2015-12-11 2015-12-11

CMLL announce 01/01 iPPV with 2 hair matches, implicitly urges you not to buy tomorrow’s show

This promo is on CMLL’s YouTube channel, though it’s partially hidden at the moment.

In case you can’t see it, they’re advertising Super Parka versus Negro Casas and Kamaitachi versus Maximo in hair matches. (They’re two separate hair matches.) These matches have been built up over the last few weeks and one or both were expected to take place on the 01/01 show for a while. I also had a feeling that it would be an iPPV – that seems like the plan for all big Friday night shows going forward – and this confirms it. Maximo has come thru in all of his big matches in 2015, and I expect he’ll start off 2016 the same way with Kamaitachi. I have no such hope for Negro Casas versus Super Parka, which has been poor at every turn.

CMLL’s issued a press release hyping these matches, and giving an explanation for the missing Thunder/Ultimo Guerrero match. The story is both men did sign the contract for the match, but Thunder asked CMLL for more time to “prepare better” for the match and CMLL postponed the match to an indeterminate match in the future. Ultimo Guerrero would seem to have a sizable problem with this, but there’s no comment for him.

(In reality, why would they put Thunder in the match and then only figure out at the last second that he’s not good enough to have it? It’s not like he’s just now not been any good. It also seems incredibly doubtful he’ll be any good later. It does appear to be the Dos Leyendas match, which is a waste of an even bigger show.)

I believe the info on this iPPV wasn’t originally supposed to be out yet. The iPPV page lists it as canceled (with no price) and the video is now unlisted on YouTube. Announcing a show on next Friday on iPPV where there’s two apuesta matches makes it pretty hard to sell this Friday’s iPPV. The two losers on New Year’s Day will be a bigger names than whoever loses on Christmas Day, as well.

If you just want to see all the CMLL you can see, or don’t really mind paying $10 for an average show, or if you’re someone who’s life decisions has led them to writing about lucha libre on a daily basis, buying tomorrow’s iPPV is for you. If you just want to see a cage match, then maybe you’re better off skipping Friday’s show and watching the cage match on Monday. If you just want to see a big apuesta match, you’re better off waiting a week and watching a much better one. The only draw on Friday is to find of it’s Super Comando who gets unmasked or if it’s someone random.

Angelico out six weeks, Rey to appear less in AAA?, LU to Texas?

random Alushe gif

CMLL (TUE) 12/22/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Capitan Cobra, Magia Blanca, Robin b Cholo, Mercenario, Mr. Apolo
2) Estrellita, Lluvia, Silueta b Dalys, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis
Tecnicos took 1/3, with Lluvia submitting Zeuxis. Lluvia wants a title shot. Zeuxis accepted for next week and told Lluvia to prepare well.
3) Boby Z, Kamaitachi, Skándalo b Delta, Esfinge, Rey Cometa
4) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Kráneo, Ripper
Blue Panther submitted Kraneo after Kraneo accidentally splashed Ripper.
5) Marco Corleone b Último Guerrero
Ultimo won the first fall by using the ropes. Marco rallied back to win fall two, then beat UG with his own trick to win the match.

The recap says the main event was Ultimo’s last challenge prior to facing Thunder in the hair vs mask match. So maybe it’s happening – but it’s also in the Guadalajara recap so they possible have no more idea than we do (and no one would’ve thought to cut it out.)

No shows today due to it being Christmas Eve. There never is – the idea is everyone’s going to spend tonight with their families and/or in church, so it’s not a great idea to run. (I think I’m spending the night watching Elite handheld videos by myself, which is nearly the same thing.) Tomorrow is far busier.

Angelico’s been off a few AAA shows of late, including being replaced by Fireball in Tepic over the weekend. He explained the situation on Facebook: he’s out of action with an injury, and will not be able to wrestle for six weeks. (MedioTiempo pointed this out first.) Six weeks would take him into February – past the rescheduled Guerra de Titanes, and past the last six tapings for season 2 of Lucha Underground.

Angelico was involved in Lucha Underground storylines. There’s an obvious way to extract him from them immediately if needed, though it requires finding things to do for people and changing some planned outcomes. They could also try to work around it. Ivelisse did finish out the first season of Lucha Underground with a bad injury, but she was also out for months after that. (She did a great altruistic act, but it seems unfair to hold everyone to that standard.) At least they’ve got a couple weeks to figure this out.

In AAA, Angelico’s also in the middle of things, tag team champion with Jack Evans. They were scheduled to defending the tag titles against Pentagon Jr. & Joe Lider and Averno & Chessman at the first attempt at Guerra de Titanes. It’s unknown what will be on the January version of that card, but it probably wasn’t going to be the same anyway: Pentagon and Drago were previously booked to appear in the UK that weekend, so they can’t be in Mexico City unless those bookings are canceled. AAA’s reluctant to advance storylines outside of major shows, so that tag title match will probably be kicked down to Rey de Reyes in March.

Angelico doesn’t say when the injury took place. He worked the 12/19 (Saturday) LU taping but didn’t appear on the Sunday show. He hasn’t wrestled on a show since. He wasn’t the person everyone was worried about getting hurt on those tapings (and that person is said to be good to go when they start up again) and it could’ve just as easily happened on a small show we didn’t hear about sometime after.

Another person who might not be on Guerra de Titanes card is Rey Mysterio Jr. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter says Rey’s contract expires at the end of the year, and he’s planning on working in AAA a lot less in 2015. AAA is hoping to get him in for the big shows, but even that’s not a sure thing. Mysterio is said to be focusing on Lucha Underground going forward, trying to stay home more and stay healthy. It’s unclear where this leaves the heavyweight championship or future plans; as recently as the Juarez TV shows, AAA was still strongly hinting towards Rey vs Mundo in a mask vs hair match, which likely was (and may still be) the plan for 2016 TripleMania main event.

It’s notable that the three big names AAA brought in over the prior year – Rey Mysterio, Myzteziz and Alberto el Patron – all were not resigned or weren’t offered a contract. That seems to mark the period as some level of failure: if people on both sides felt like it was working out, it’d still be happening. Now, guys like Fenix and Psycho Clown who had little to do in 2016 are pretty much now the lead faces. The Observer pushes the idea that the big feuds now are Mesias/Fenix, Daga/Suicide and Jack/Pentagon, which matches what they’ve done on screen but also leaves guys like Mundo and Cage without an obvious enemy. Maybe Mundo’s scaled back to only come in when Rey does as well.

The Observer says AAA is hoping to get Speedball Mike Bailey, Willie Mack and Mr. 450 in again next year. I’ve heard from other sources that Bailey is not expecting to work much more AAA going forward.

For what it’s worth, Arena Naucalpan is advertising renting out it’s arena and says it has room for 1900 people. That’s a little smaller capacity than we’ve had previously.

PWInsider says Lucha Underground wrestlers are being told they may need to get out (or rearrange) their WrestleMania weekend bookings to be free to work Lucha Underground shows instead. That would be the first non-Temple shows for the promotion. The report is clear that no shows have been set yet but that this is a plan LU is working on. Lucha Underground running WrestleMania in Texas made sense from the moment WWE announced they were going to be there a couple of years ago, but getting a venue anywhere near WWE’s seems to require the indie groups a year of lead time. Putting something together in four months or less, as their first outside shows, is going to be a challenge. I’m a bit skeptical of this coming together, but, when it comes to Lucha Underground, that usually means it’s going to happen.

The one thing that might be in Lucha Underground’s favor is they did have some conversation and work about moving the entire show to Texas during the period before Season 2 was greenlit. Maybe they’ve just got a spreadsheet somewhere with all the numbers on where they’d run and how much it’d cost and decided they might as well use the info.

(This might be the thing that’d actually get me to go to WrestleMania.)

In an interview with some of the cage match participants, the Panther says he’s staying in the cage as long as Super Comando does, not wanting to miss his change to get his rival’s mask. Super Comando plans on leaving The Panther totally decimated. Fuego also says he’ll put up his hair in Puebla should he lose his mask on Christmas Day. I wonder what happened with Lestat that he didn’t end up in the Puebla cage match instead of Fuego working two of them.

Keira notes most people can’t imagine a independent luchadora winning a CMLL championship, but feels that’s mostly because it’s rare a CMLL luchador would actually put a title on the line outside of CMLL. Keira points out she’s faces Marcela before and actually defeated here, so she’s not intimidated going into tomorrow’s title match on the Chairo II show. In another interview, Keira says she hopes to join CMLL and wrestle in Arena Mexico in 2016. (They haven’t used indie luchadoras on the Elite shows, but she’d be an obvious pick if they do.) She’s also looking to face Io Shirai, Star Fire and Magnifica.

This is from weeks ago, but I’m just noticing now: 126F had an interview with Santo Jr. (Nieto el Santo), who says he’s currently 178 cm and 94 kg. (5′ 10″/207 lb.) He feels that size will cause him to wrestle as a heavyweight, and he expects to start doing that in 2016. He feels his style will more resemble the original El Santo than his father.

DTU says they’ll be back in Arena Aficion on New Year’s Day, with a Violento Jack versus Miedo Extremo #1 contenders match. Miedo Extremo says he never thought he’d lose his mask on the DTU Anniversary show.

Pagano says a 12/27 show at Ciudad Juarez’s Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos (with a Juarez vs CMLL/Laguna theme) is canceled, but they’ll be running a free show at a different venue instead.

RobViper has highlights of 06/28 AAA

Segunda Caida has random CMLL reviews.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Pagano and Nicho will have a match on 01/17 that they’re teasing will be career versus career.

Apolo Valdes looks back at the year of lucha libre.

2015 watch later catch up, part 10 of ∞

turtle destruction

Matches in this post

  • Golden Magic © vs Trauma II for the IWRG Junior de Juniors Championship
    Arena Naucalpan, 10/11/2015
  • Carístico & Volador Jr. vs La Máscara & Rush
    Arena México, 10/25/2015 
  • Alas de Acero, Aramis, Black Drago, Dragón Fly, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon, Látigo, Power Bull vs Ángel Dorado, Ángel Dorado Jr.,Cruz Del Silencio, Emperador Sayri, Hades, Obituary, René Rocks, Toro Machine [Copa Higher Power]
    Arena Naucalpan, 10/28/2015 
  • Leo, Mike, Rafy vs Centvrión, Fly Warrior, Látigo
    Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 11/07/2015 
  • Aramis, Fly Star, Toxin vs Magnífico I, Magnífico II, Templario
    Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 11/07/2015 
  • Carístico vs Ángel de OroCavernarioHechicero
    Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 11/07/2015 


Dragon Rojo remains Rey of middleweights, Guerra de Titanes tickets

photo by CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 12/22/2015 Arena México
1) Akuma & Apocalipsis b Leono & Sensei
Added to the show on Saturday.
2) Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pierrothito b Astral, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito
Rudos took 2/3. Pierroth beat Astral
3) Disturbio, Okumura, Virus b Magnus, Metatrón, Oro Jr.
Oro replaced Soberano on Saturday. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther DQ Hechicero, Mephisto, Misterioso Jr. Sangre Azteca
Hechicero & Misterioso replaced Epehsto & Luciferno on Saturday, then Sangre Azteca ended up in Misterioso’s spot on Tuesday. Tecnicos took 2/3. Mephisto fouled Maya for the DQ.
5) Dragón Rojo Jr. © b Titán [CMLL MIDDLE]
Dragon Rojo took 1/3, the last with a top rope stomp, to keep the title again. 13th defense. Dragon Rojo has reached 1496 days as champion, and will pass Satanico for longest time champion if he holds it on February 28 (1562 days).
6) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Thunder b La Máscara, Super Porky, Valiente
Thunder and Terrible replaced Felino & Vangellys on Saturday. Thunder defeated Valiente. Mascara didn’t get along with his partners.

It’s conceivable Rojo won’t defend the title again before March, so he may already have the record.

Tickets for AAA TV’s 01/22 taping at Guerra de Titanes will go on sale on Friday. They’re running from 185 up to 597 mexican pesos. ($10.77 to $34.75 USD). The Ticketmaster site lists the show as Guerra de Titanes. They didn’t mention that name on TV this past week, but maybe they will next week. No idea if it’s getting the same lineup as original show. Neither Rey nor Mundo are on the poster, but the poster looks like a filler graphic until they can announce the real lineup. (On the other hand, if they were just running the same card out, it would’ve been easier just to place a new date/location on the old art and send it in.)

I’d assume AAA is still running something called Guerra de Titanes in December. Calling this show Guerra de Titanes means they’re going to have two shows called “Guerra de Titanes 2016”. Short term thinking.

All of the FantasticaMania shows will air on TV in Japan, either on Samurai TV or TV Asahi. NJPW World hasn’t listed their broadcast schedule as of yet. (It’s worth reminding that NJPW World will charge you on the first of every month, no matter when you subscribe – if you’re thinking of subscribing for FantasticaMania or the 01/04 show, wait until the calendar turns over.)

Sharlie Rockstar ran in on a match in Cuernavaca on a three way with Pagano, Damian and Angel o Demonio, setting up a Pagano/Sharlie match on 01/14.

Fuego notes that he somehow got booked into both cage matches.

Segunda Caida reviews La Sombra & Volador Jr. © vs Heavy Metal & Negro Casas for the CMLL Tag Team champions.

RobViper has highlights of 06/23/15 CMLL.

Yahoo! Deportes/Gonzalo has his photos of the year.

Miedo Extremo talks about losing his mask.

El Pancracio looks back at their last interview with Lizmark.


CMLL ELITE (SUN) 12/27/2015 Arena México
1) Estrellita & La Vaquerita vs Amapola & Zeuxis
2) Emperador Azteca & Oro Jr. vs Karonte Jr. & Skándalo
3) Guerrero Maya Jr. & Rey Cometa vs Trauma I & Trauma II
4) Super Crazy vs Felino
5) Black Warrior, La Máscara, Rush vs Cibernético, Mephisto, Sharlie Rockstar
6) Carístico & Mistico vs El Cavernario & Negro Casas

An Elite show after all. Plans changed. At least it makes sense to me why Caristico & Mistico are together, and a tag team title match on one of these shows seems likely (if they can find Shocker.)

Black Warrior came to this promotion as a partner of Cibernetico, is now against him, there’s no explanation. Strong booking.

Tercera could be pretty good.

CMLL (TUE) 12/29/2015 Arena México
1) Flyer & Leono vs Akuma & Camorra
2) Starman vs Arkángel de la Muerte [lightning]
3) Astral, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
4) Hombre Bala Jr., Oro Jr., Stigma vs El Cuatrero, Okumura, Sansón
5) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Boby Z, Pierroth, Sagrado
6) La Máscara, Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr. vs Kráneo, Mephisto, Ripper

In more changed plans, Cuatrero and Sanson are debuting a week before they were supposed to start.

It’s strange Arkangel and Starman are in the segunda for a lightning match; that’s usually only done when it’s a couple of rookies. Based on last night’s finish, it looks it’s being done here because Astral’s defending the minis title as the 01/05 (almost Kid’s Day) big match. CMLL could put one of the apuesta matches also on that show, but that’s not what they’ve done of late.

(And there’s a good chance 01/01 and 01/05 will be better shows than 12/25.)

CMLL (TUE) 12/29/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Nautilius vs Joker & Sádico
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca, Virus
3) Zeuxis © vs Lluvia [MEX WOMEN]
Zeuxis’s third defense
4) Blue Panther, Esfinge, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Atlantis, Super Porky, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

I guessed right on Zeuxis/Lluvia! It’s good to have something in this section correct. Actually hoping it turns up on YouTube.

ILLM (SUN) 01/17/2016 Salón Citlalli, Ecatepec, Estado de México
1) Rayo Star vs Arceues
2) Ancla & Lady Marvilla vs Moria & Sanely
3) Wotam vs Teremoto Negro Jr.
4) Corsario Negro Jr. & Felina Metalica vs Keira & Toxin Boy
5) Arez vs Sharlie Rockstar vs Fly Warrior

The Sharlie Rockstar return tour continues.

AAA on Televisa: 2015-11-28 


Recapped: 12/16-17/2015

What happened: This show took it’s toll on people. Johnny Mundo bloodied Rey Misterio in the main event, then beat him with a foul. An Australian Suicide and Daga post match brawl left Daga with a black eye.

What was good: Everything! You really want to see the middle trios match, but this was a real good show of wrestling matches.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my channel, but go watch AAA’s HD version instead. (This is Xalapa week 2.)


CMLL to run free cage match days after pay cage match, Dragon Rojo/Titan tonight

I’m really starting to wonder about IWRG referees

IWRG (SUN) 12/20/2015 Arena Naucalpan [Mano a Mano, The Gladiatores]
Arena Naucalpan 38th Anniversary
1) Fresero Jr., Leo, Mike, Teelo b Avisman, Diablo Jr. I, Hip Hop Man, Violencia Jr.
Fresero replaced Rafy (got moved up.) Avisman was knocked out by a Fresero german suplex. He was out for a while and exited the match after he recovered. Tecnicos still won.
2) Imposible © b Pantera I [IWRG IC Light] Imposible © vs Pantera I for the IWRG Intercontinental Lightweight Championship (posted by thecubsfan)
11th defense
3) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Negro Navarro, Pirata Morgan, Trauma II b Danny Casas, Rafy, Toscano, Veneno Danny Casas, Rafy, Toscano, Veneno vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Negro Navarro, Pirata Morgan, Trauma II (posted by thecubsfan)
Rafy replaced Mr. 450. Danny Casas attacked his partner Toscano, setting up a hair feud.
4) Hijo De Dos Caras b Trauma I [IWRG IC HEAVY] Hijo De Dos Caras vs Trauma I for the IWRG Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship (posted by thecubsfan)
first defense. Dos took 1/3.
5) Apolo Estrada & Eterno b Black Terry & Dr. Cerebro [hair] Black Terry & Dr. Cerebro vs Apolo Estrada & Eterno, hair vs hair (posted by thecubsfan)
The new Insoportables win their first big match. Rudos took fall 1, tecnicos took fall 2, and the third fall came down to Eterno & Terry (who started this whole feud.) Eterno and the referee got into a struggle over a chair, which ended up smacking Terry in the head. Eterno covered for the win. Terry & Cerbero got their heads shaved. Apolo & Eterno challenged for a trios title match.

That finish is something. Black Terry Jr. has slow motion highlights of the show. I wrote more about this show yesterday, and this post is going to be long enough as it is.

CMLL (SUN) 12/20/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Fuego en el Ring]
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & El Tapatío b Black Sugar & Guerrero de la Muerte
Avispon is a tecnico now.
2) El Divino & Reycko b Demonio Rojo & El Gitano
3) El Yaqui & Vaquero Jr. b Carlos Rogi & Exterminador
Vaquero used the ropes to beat Exterminador
4) El Alteño, Javier Cruz Jr., Nube Roja DQ El Chakal, Mr. Apolo, Sádico
Rogi & Exterminador ran in for the DQ. Yaqui & Vaquero Jr. ran in for the save, challenging for a cage match (which will happen next week.)
5) Volador Jr. b Terrible
No Shocker or Maximo, so they had a singles match instead of sending extra people. Volador took 2/3 to win their first ever singles match.

I’d guess one of Shocker or Maximo couldn’t make it to Guadalajara on Sunday so the other didn’t bother, but it’s strange they wouldn’t just send a replacement. Singles match might have been a better deal anyway.

CMLL (MON) 12/21/2015 Arena Puebla [@therealfredo, CMLL]
1) Black Tiger, Meyer, Paris b Ares, Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 21 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015 22:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Black Tiger replaced Astro (moved up a match). Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Astro, Eléctrico, Shockercito b Demus 3:16, Mini Joker, Saurón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 21 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015 22:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Astro replaced Asturiano. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) King Jaguar b Stigma, Skándalo, Policeman, Rey Cometa, Okumura, Disturbio, Espíritu Maligno, Fuego, Canelo Casas [cibernetico] LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 21 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015 22:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sides were predetermined as Canelo, Disturbio, Okumura, Policeman, Skandalo vs Espiritu Maligno, Fuego, King Jaguar, Rey Cometa and Stigma. Order of elimination went Canelo (by Fuego), Fuego (Okumura), Disturbio/Espiritu double elimination, Okumura (Rey Cometa), Policeman (King Jaguar), and Skandalo & Stigma were counted out. Stigma & Skandalo brawled on the outside for much longer than a 20 count before they were finally counted out (which sounds very unusual for a designed countout, which are usually pretty telegraphed by the referee.) King Jaguar was the winner. Stigma & Rey Cometa talked about a cage match involving everyone, which will happen next week.
4) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy DQ Felino, Negro Casas, Thunder LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 21 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015 22:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Thunder returned, replacing Mr. Niebla. Tecnicos took 1/3, the last with Negro Casas pulling off La Mascara’s mask for a DQ. This seemed to set up a match next week.
5) Último Guerrero © b Atlantis [NWA MIDDLE] LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 21 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2015 22:00 HRS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
UG took 1/3 to keep the title. Rhird defense for Ultimo Guerrero

I didn’t watch the show (maybe I will?) but the joy of social media is I could still heckle CMLL’s booking from a long way away. As a promoter, it makes no sense to run a big gimmick match for $10 on Friday and run the same big gimmick match for free four days later. You’re kneecaping your own product, telling your potential consumers that it’s not a good idea to pay for your product. CMLL gives away a tremendous amount of content for free (and doesn’t shut down other people who are giving it away for free), possibly more than any other wrestling company in the world.

If you want to get people to actually pay for something, you’re got to make it much more special than the stuff they can get for free. The Anniversary iPPV was obviously special. The Dia del Muertos show had a special look (and would’ve been seen as even more special if found a way of explaining it would be the last Volador/Sombra match.) An Infierno en el Ring card around a cage match could be special, but they’ve done anything possible to make it not special. The card is not special, four trios matches of middling quality and the same importance. Caristicio’s first match back on a normal CMLL show could’ve been special, but they wasted that last week (and did nothing to make you want to see him again – the strong Caristico stuff is limited to Sundays.) Cibernetico is having his first match, but the allure of seeing Cibernetico has nothing to do with him actually wrestling matches and he’s probably not going to be a big difference maker. And now, they’ve announced that you can just wait a few days and get the same sort of cage match a few days later. The Arena Mexico show has the bigger names, but it’s not as though the Arena Mexico cage is built around main eventers on Friday and Arena Puebla has scrubs. CMLL has treated the vast majority of their luchadors like interchangable action figures, especially the midcard guys, and is under the belief that they still can charge $10 more for one group than the others. This is an erroneous belief.

As a viewer, it makes no difference on Friday what other shows are getting cage matches. You’re going to get the same quality of the matches for your $10. It’s actually a great situation for the average person, because CMLL’s actions actually turn out to be fan friendly in the short term (on purpose or not). CMLL could’ve and maybe should’ve just waited one extra week to run the Arena Puebla cage match, saved it to be a sort of Kid’s Day special, and then maybe you’d have a extra people buying Friday’s show not realizing another cage match was coming soon. Again, CMLL’s really great giving away their content for free in a way no one else really does – they could’ve also just said next week’s Puebla show wouldn’t air on the internet, and so you’d have to get the iPPV to watch a cage match. Instead, you can pick and choose and watch what you want and pay for what you want.

My problem is more about the long run, as it always tends to be. A company so blind not to see the problem of running matches like this, a company so lazy not to come up with a better way of handling this, is pretty of creatively rotten. It’s not that we don’t know that, in a hundred other ways, but it’s aggravating that such when an obvious problem that had to be seen by so many people isn’t handled in a remotely logical fashion. I’m sure this is not one person’s fault – I’d guess the person who decided to put Friday’s show on iPPV had no idea there was going to be a cage match in Puebla, because CMLL comes off as internally fractured and uncommunicative – and one dumb episode like this isn’t going to mean much. (If the Anniversary show did 1,200 buys, what’s the guess here? Maybe 300 buys as a guess before but 200 now, so it’s only a $1000 difference?) In the long run, these sort of unforced errors add up. CMLL (and other places) note how they’re at a disadvantage to other wrestling promotions around the world for reasons outside of their control, and they’re completely right about having those sort of disadvantages. At the same time, they also seem to make a lot of their own disadvantages for themselves, just not taking care where care is needed. You’ve got to be “really good” when you’re the underdog if you’re going to succeed, and there’s a lot of of settling for “good enough” with CMLL (and other places.) Good enough will keep you around, but it also probably won’t be keeping talent around you should be, or won’t be bringing in the talent you could be, and might just be slowly withering away. None of that is good news for a viewer, who wants to see more than “good enough.”

If you’re someone who reads this site every day, you’re probably invested in finding out if Panther or Puma or Super Comando or Pegasso or someone else loses their masks on Friday night. If you’re someone who only pays anything to lucha when someone else points you towards it, then Friday’s definitely isn’t a show I would point you towards. I’d say to just watch Monday night and save the money.

Anyway, what’s also interesting here is how much CMLL still books the different locations as if they’re events only the people who go to the show are aware of; this is like old US territory booking where the despised heel would fall in a loser leaves town match on each city on the local circuit before moving on to another group. The cage match bit sticks out because it’s a cage match, but it’s no different from CMLL running three title matches in four days, after no title matches for weeks. Maybe there’s some arcane rule in the way they pay people that it’s much easier to do it like this, but it (like a lot of other things) comes across as super dated.

I’m slowly grasping that this is a topic only I care about, but Thunder versus Ultimo Guerrero absolutely has to happen on 01/01 if Ultimo Guerrero and Thunder were healthy enough on this show. They’ve already said they were doing, and there’s no excuse for it not to happen if they’re both healthy (and I want it over and done with already.) If they promised one of the other guys a hair match, make it a second match on that card or push it to the 01/06 show instead. I still have no idea why Thunder misses so many shows (for all we know, it may not be his fault), but you’ve got to either do it right now while he’s still around or treat Thunder like Mr. Niebla and never trust that you can build to a big mask match with him again. Please don’t bail on it now and bring it back in March.

Today’s CMLL show has Titan versus Dragon Rojo Junior for the CMLL Middleweight Championship. Dragon Rojo has held the championship for an astounding four years. Some of that is CMLL being high on him some of it’s Rojo being injured for long periods of time and CMLL not being concerned about this belt to strip it from him. Titan is part of FantasticaMania, and luchadors going to FantatiscaMania tend to pick up belts to help fill out the big matches for those cards. At the same time, CMLL always has seemed very high on Dragon Rojo and this might be the exception. I’m not sure what the outcome will be tonight.

This match would’ve been a tremendous extra value for Friday’s iPPV. It’s kind of an important match between two upper level guys and has a pretty good shot of being more entertaining than anything currently scheduled on that show. It’s probably not on that show because Titan and Dragon Rojo are headed home for Christmas and won’t be in Mexico City for that show. (I’m guessing that’s would prevent the Maya/Panther vs Misterioso/Sagrado match from being on that show, if CMLL even wanted to do that.)

I’m not even sure if the match will air on TV: CMLL’s switched content around on the Titanes en el Ring/Claro Sports TV show a few times. It’s looking like they’re broadcasting Friday night matches as of late. (LATV gets it’s matches from those shows, so it won’t air on that show unless it airs on Titanes.) I’m sure it’ll be taped but it might just sit in a vault or computer folder for the rest of time. Here’s a better idea: CMLL should just advertise that they’ll air that title match on the iPPV after the main event. Yea, everyone will know the finish by then, but most  people who are going to buy the show are used to watching lucha libre on a delay, and Titan/Rojo is strong enough that it might mean a hundred or so people on the fence would go ahead and buy the show if that was their only way of seeing the match.

Tonight’s CMLL main event will have Super Porky carrying Valiente, La Mascara, Terrible, Rey Bucanero and Thunder completely by himself. Tercera looks good with Fuego, Maya and Panther against Hechicero, Mephisto and Misterioso. I again have doubts any of this will air anywhere, but I’d go if I was a little bit closer.

Guadalajara has another singles main event tonight, Marco Corleone vs Ultimo Guerrero. I had a sneaking suspicion they’re setting up a Lluvia/Zeuxis title match in the undercard, and we’ll find out if I’m right whenever the results turn up.

CMLL has a story about Bushi becoming CMLL Welterweight champion. They had a brief bit on Facebook yesterday, and this just expands on that: Mascara Dorada wants his rematch at FantasticaMania. It’s the first time CMLL’s acknowledged the existence of the NJPW Ingobernables’ faction, and they mention Bushi using a foul to win. Maybe also slightly interesting they’re calling him Bushi, since he was using Bushiroad on his CMLL trip. Anyway, Dorada says he wants to complete his year by coming home champion and I’d guess that’s the big idea here. Dorada started this one year loan to Japan by losing to a masked Ingobernables in Korakuen Hall (Sombra) and looks to end it by defeating a masked Ingobernable in Korakuen Hall (Bushi.) The win is to prove his growth. I wish it was a bigger win.

CMLL also has an article up talking about the Arena Coliseo tag team title change. They’re really talking up the Misterioso/Maya long chop fight on this show. The Panther talks about the taking the momentum from this win into the cage match; what goes unsaid is these two guys will go from being partners on Saturday to sort of enemies on Friday. Maya says he’s happy to have his belt back. If Super Comando & Artillero are ever going to get an Arena Coliseo team title match, now’s the time.

The GoMask! promotion debuted on Sunday in Arena Jardines (same arena that’s hosted Ichiban and Fusion promotions in the past, and it appears similar to those.) Scheduled main event was Fenix & Drago vs Pentagon & Daga. Carxyus has a recap: Fenix showed up crutches saying he couldn’t wrestle, Pentagon attacked Fenix anyway, Arez made the save and Argenis replaced him in the actual match. Arez didn’t otherwise appear on the show outside of getting involved in the main event angle. The tecnicos despite two referees (Hijo del Tirantes and a local tecnico referee) battling, then the Perros destroyed all the tecnicos (Arez, Fenix and the referee too) after the match.

Kronoz, who was part of AAA’s Holocausto before suffering an ankle injury this June, appeared in a trios match on that show. That’s the first time I’ve seen him back. He was across from Dark Dragon Jr. Pentagon Jr. was previously Dark Dragon, and Kronoz was a Pentagon’s trio partner in his identity before that one, so it’s probably not some coincidence, one of their relatives in the new identity.

Furia de Titanes has an article distancing themselves from the article they posted last week claiming Lizmark wasn’t really a cliff diver. As best I can understand from the correction, and other people probably know better, the comments attributed to Dr. Karonte were said years ago in general discussion (probably not on the record) and they didn’t ask Dr. Karonte those words attributed to him after Lizmark died.

A different article on that site talks about Charly Manson/Sharlie Rockstar’s return from prison. The explanation for his early release is that inmates are allowed to go up for parole after they’ve fulfilled 3/5ths of their sentence, and taking part in organized activities like working, education, or sports. When Manson said starting a sort of wrestling school in prison helped him out, I guess he didn’t meant it just figuratively.

I have a column on Voices of Wrestling preview the big Christmas shows.

It looks IWRG is doing Facebook polling for it’s annual awards (or just is asking their fans what they think.) Power Bull, Atomic Star and Muerte Infernal are mentioned for new rudo, while Aramis, Voltar and Alas de Acero are mentioned for new tecnico. No sign of the usual year end holiday party.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and this week’s Poster-Mania.

Cien Caras says he’ll return to Arena Mexico again – as a fan. He sounds (here and in other interviews) like he’d be happy not wrestling again, but his brothers are more invested in finally getting revenge on Rayo.

Fuego en el Ring has an interview with Magia Blanca.

Debate has an interview with Sinaloa’s Mr. Iguana.

SuperLuchas writes about Guadalajara’s Demonio Rojo.

R de Rudo has post match (but still pretty bloody) post match interviews with Ciclope and the unmasked Miedo Extremo.

La Parka talks about his year and plans for 2016.

A Box y Lucha commission may be soon formed in Boca del Rio, Veracruz.


IWRG (SUN) 12/27/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Fireman & Rocket vs Hip Hop Man & Matrix
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy vs Avisman, Picudo Jr., Vortize
3) Argos, Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Hijo del Alebrije vs El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible, Violencia Jr.
4) Danny Casas vs Toscano
5) Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro © vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Canis Lupus, Eterno [EdM Trios]
second defense

The trios title match reminds me there’s been no mention of the idea of doing Mexico State singles matches tournaments since the original announcement some months ago. They were supposed to start in January.

They’re hurrying to Danny Casas/Toscano; there’s usually a big show early in January so a hair match soon is not of the question. I guess Argos is a tecnico in IWRG. I’ve got the Matrix linked as Bombero Infernal, but it’s likely one of his sons.

CMLL (MON) 12/28/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Astro, Meyer, Zaeta Roja vs El Malayo, Guerrero Espacial, Mini Joker
2) Black Tiger, Millenium, Starman vs Cancerbero, Fuerza Chicana, Raziel
3) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Kráneo, Mephisto, Ripper
4) La Máscara vs Negro Casas
5) Stigma vs Espíritu Maligno, Fuego, Rey Cometa, King Jaguar, Skándalo, Okumura, Policeman, Disturbio, Canelo Casas [cage, mask, hair]

Cage matches with masked guys and unmasked guys almost always mean the unmasked guys are losing and are probably slightly less draws because of it. That’s why the Friday show is all masked guys, even though Okumura was also involved in that feud at points. I guess there’s a chance Skandalo could lose his mask if that was the purpose behind his return. Rey Cometa losing his hair as a payday to make up for losing all those months is also possible. The locals guys are still more likely, with King Jaguar, Policeman and Espiritu all having lost apuesta matches before. This one feels more wide open than the Friday match: Fuego’s not losing, Stigma’s not losing (might be winning), and Disturbio is the only other one I’d be very shocked if he lost because of his last few months of success.

Under/over La Mascara/Negro Casas is 9 minutes and 30 seconds. They should give in and make more of these singles matches actual lightning matches.

Invasors have been good opponents for the Sky Team and Mephisto fits in better with them than Olimpico or Morphosis. First two matches have changes to be good.

great match roundup, week of 2015-11-28

one more look at this

I’d catch up quicker if I kept posting recaps (and/or just skipped the other matches.) I feel like I have a pretty good shot of being caught up with watching AAA by the end of this week, though it may take a bit longer to post everything.

This was a pretty good week: 11/30 Puebla was pointless, but 12/04 ClaroSports had the latest Dragon Lee/Kamaitachi match. The longer Kamaitachi is in Mexico, the less likely it seems we’ll get another one of those in Japan – the NJPW guys usually disappear for a little while – so that might be the last one of those for quite a while.

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Fireball vs Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Steve Pain AAA on Televisa: 2015-11-28 2015-11-06
excellent Dragon Lee © vs Kamaitachi for the CMLL World Super Lightweight Championship CMLL on 2015-12-04 2015-12-04
great Fénix, Psycho Clown, Rey Misterio Jr. vs Johnny Mundo, Low Ki, Pentagón Jr. AAA on Televisa: 2015-11-28 2015-11-06
good Faby Apache, Goya Kong, Pimpinela Escarlata vs La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Mamba AAA on Televisa: 2015-11-28 2015-11-06
ok Bengala, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Canelo Casas, Okumura, Skándalo CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-30 2015-11-30
ok Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Super Porky vsKráneo, Ripper, Shocker CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-30 2015-11-30
ok Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-30 2015-11-30
ok La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vsAmapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis CMLL on 2015-12-04 2015-12-04
ok Ángel de Oro, Máximo Sexy, Super Porky vsEphesto, Kráneo, Luciferno CMLL on 2015-12-04 2015-12-04
ok Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero vsCavernario, Mephisto, Thunder CMLL on 2015-12-04 2015-12-04
below average Magia Blanca, Metatrón, Meyer vs Artillero, Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-30 2015-11-30
below average Lestat, Oro Jr., Starman vs Disturbio, King Jaguar, Policeman CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-11-30 2015-11-30
below average Oro Jr. & Soberano Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte & Canelo Casas CMLL on 2015-12-04 2015-12-04
below average Mistico, Super Parka, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Shocker CMLL on 2015-12-04 2015-12-04
watch later Eterno vs Black Terry IWRG Zona XXI: 2015-11-28 2015-11-25
watch later Caifan vs Aero Boy, Ultimo Ninja [submission] Noches de Coliseo: 2015-11-29 2015-06-28
watch later Black Terry, Dr. Cerebro, Hijo del Pantera vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Canis Lupus, Eterno IWRG Zona XXI: 2015-11-30 2015-11-29