taped 2015-03-17 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
CMLL (TUE) 05/12/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Apocalipsis & Inquisidor b Bengala & Leono
Leono and Bengala screwed up, losing to their loss.
2) Acero, Fantasy, Shockercito b Mercurio, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
Acero replaced Stukita. Mercurio tried to foul Shockercito, but Shockercito blocked it and pulled him in a reinera for the win.
3) Boby Zavala, Sangre Azteca, Tiger b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Stigma
4) Ángel de Oro b Ripper [lightning]
Mecedora in 9:15
5) Ephesto, Hechicero, Vangellys b Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr.
Stuka Jr. replacd Valiente on Monday. Ephesto trpaped Maya with his cradle.
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Valiente DQ Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
Valiente replaced Rush on Monday. Straight falls, Shocker fouling Maximo in the second.
Hechicero put Stuka in a new hold (above) and asked the fans to come up with a name for it. La Warlock? It seems like both big Shocker (vs Maximo, for the heavyweight title) and small Shocker (the mini vs Mercurio, who’s hair has been getting longer) in the near future. Only one of those feuds actually continues next week though.
The big news from the show is probably the announcement of the 2015 En Busca de un Idolo. There had been rumors CMLL was skipping that competition this year. CMLL had updated the website for that competition about a month ago with the smallest of teases, so it might have been in the planning stages for a while. Esfinge’s vague comment about upcoming tournaments he wanted to be in might also have been about this. We don’t know anything about the competition, especially including if it’ll still air on Terra, outside of the Twitter message announcing it. The timing suggests a video promo aired during the show last night, and CMLL Informa will probably at least reair that.
Today’s Lucha Underground is episode 27, “Ancient Medallions”
- Aerostar vs Jack Evans
- Fenix vs Sexy Star vs The Mack vs Killshot vs Cage vs Cuerno vs Pentagon Jr. for a Medallion
- Alberto el Patron vs Hernandez, winner is #1 contender
Opener is Jack’s debut. He’s not quite the same guy he currently is in AAA. There’s 14 hours left this season, still a lot of time, but you’ll see the start of some stories which will take them all the way to the season finale. (It feels like LU had their top 3 matches for that finale nearly 4 months from now figured out before this block of episodes – before episode 25 – but there are seeds of things even earlier.) The Medallion storyline starts to move characters on one path, and events in the main event will move a lot of characters in different directions.
There’s a Dario office scene released early, but it’s actually more for building to next week’s episode – the trios champions find out a match they’ll be having on 05/20. There’s also a clip of Fenix and Catrina, which is also a preview of upcoming attractions.
This is the first appearance for Sexy Star & Pentagon Jr. since their singles match, and for Mack since the trios tournament wrapped up.
Texano, Psycho Clown and Fantasma insist the importance of representing Mexico in the Lucha World Cup has gotten them to work together in the cup, though Texano says he’s back to feuding with Psycho Clown as soon as it’s over.
Rey Escorpion says he wants a hair match with Ultimo Guerrero, and also claims he, Polvora and Dragon Rojo are getting a new team name this time around.
FULL held a press conference at Carpa Astro to promote their TV taping on Thursday. That’s an old Mexico City stop in the 80s and early 90s; I want to say CMLL event taped TV there once in the early 90s. It’s fitting for the FULL show, another with luchadors from the 80s and 90s. It was announced as the first of four shows at the facility, adding it to Gimnasio Agustin Milan in Toluca as a regular stop for the promotion. +LuchaTV has words about the show from Tinieblas, as part of a ton of new videos on their channel.
CaraLucha announced Volador Jr. will be part of their 05/30 show. CMLL’s own preview for Friday’s Leyendas de Plata is “Mephisto vs Volador!!! and some other people.” +LuchaTV is doing a series on all the Bestiario I contestants: they’ve got Wasson, Puma Galactico, Pegazus, Centella Atomica, Principe Aereo and Heredero Maya so far.
There are many lucha libre shows as political rallies for local candidates in the lead up to the next Mexican election. This one had Blue Demon Jr. and Huracan Ramirez.
SuperLuchas looks back at shows from May 12.
DJ Spectro writes about Rene Guajarado, Alberto Munoz and Sangre Chicana & MS-1 vs Fishman & Perro Aguayo Jr.
Matt D & Segunda Caida writes about Rey Bucanero & Ultimo Guerrero vs Hijo del Santo & Negro Casas from November 2001.
El Popular talked to Delta and Guerrero Maya Jr., who wants to win a mask or a hair.
CMLL (TUE) 05/19/2015 Arena México
1) Metatrón & Molotov vs Espanto Jr. & Inquisidor
2) La Vaquerita & Skadi vs Reyna Isis & Tiffany
3) Hombre Bala Jr., Soberano Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Puma, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Virus [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Fuego, Stuka Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Ephesto, Hechicero
6) La Sombra, Máximo, Mistico vs Shocker, Terrible, Vangellys
More Maximo/Shocker, but the minis are off for a challenging women’s match. Maya/Virus in a lightning match is always good, and the tercera looks promising as well.
CMLL (TUE) 05/19/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Linterna Verde Jr. vs El Chakal & Évola
2) Flyer, Magnus, Pepe Aguayo vs Canelo Casas, Metálico, Sádico
3) Blue Panther Jr., The Panther, Tritón vs Kamaitachi, Okumura, Tiger
4) Blue Panther, Super Porky, Valiente vs Kráneo, Morphosis, Rey Escorpión
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Rush vs Ephesto, Euforia, Mephisto
Ingobernables against a rudo trio they don’t usually face. Tercera could be good.
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2015-03-28
taped 2015-03-17 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Negro Casas & Shocker © vs Marco Corleone & Rush for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship: [good]
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-03-28
taped 2015-03-24 @ Arena México
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2015-03-28
taped 2015-03-20 @ Arena México
Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi for the mask: [excellent]
Máximo & Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero & Terrible for the hair: [good]
This was also the week with the Perro Aguayo Jr. tribute show, which was very well done.
Shows Watched But Nothing Worthwhile
Matches To Watch Later
CMLL (SUN) 05/10/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Dinamo b Relampago
Dinamo got the surprise win in his debut.
2) Meteoro & Star Black DCOR El Piraña & Guerrero de la Muerte
No one could return back to the ring in time after tecnico dives, so this was the second DCOR in three weeks.
3) Évola & Gitano b El Divino & Reycko
Evola replaced Thunder Boy, Reycko replaced Metatron.
4) Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno b El Chakal, Joker, Sádico
5) Gallo, Pepe Aguayo, Virgo vs Exterminador, Maléfico, Ráfaga
Exterminador beat Virgo, setting up a title match next week.
CMLL (MON) 05/11/2015 Arena Puebla [Periodco Enfoque]
1) Black Tiger & Robin b Ares & Hijo del Signo
2) Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar, Metálico b Flyer, Lestat, Soberano Jr.
Soberano Jr. suffered a left knee injury fighting Metalico.
3) Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Morphosis, Pierroth, Sangre Azteca
4) Ángel de Oro, La Máscara, La Sombra b Kráneo, Rey Escorpión, Ripper
5) Negro Casas, Shocker, Último Guerrero b Atlantis, Máximo, Rush
Negro Casas replaced Mr. Niebla. Shocker beat Rush, setting up a singles match next week.
Today’s CMLL main event is Terrible, Shocker, Rey Bucanero versus Maximo, Marco Corleone and Valiente. The last luchador is a change; this was originally scheduled to be a rare Rush appearance on Tuesady in Arnea Mexico. Stuka Jr. is added to the card to take Valiente’s spot in the semimain, and Acero replaces Stukita in the minis match. Lightning match is Angel de Oro versus Ripper.
Guadalajara has the Arena Coliseo champions Misterioso & Sagrado taking on the Occidente Tag Team champions Gallo & Esfinge. They’re not going to be combined the two barely useful championships, for this is CMLL, with only the local titles on the line.
No mention, as far as I could tell, of Lucha Underground at the Univison upfront. The second season on Unimas and El Rey remains up on the air, but it doesn’t seem like the hope of moving to a bigger network worked out. Again, it didn’t seem like something that was particularly realistic at this point in time.
Box Y Lucha returned to publishing this past week. Interestingly, it was the box (Mayweather/Pacquiao) which seems to have gotten them to publish an issue. Maybe they’ll do another one this upcoming weekend with Canelo.
Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Mamba & Diva Salavje vs the Apaches with Taya as ref and Black Mamba wrestling in an earlier six way match.
SuperLuchas looks back at Babe Face vs Gran Hamada.
Pequeno Joker took Brole Extreme’s hair in Puebla.
Chiapas referee Ardilla Voladora passed away.
IWRG (SUN) 05/17/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Aeroman & Alas de Acero vs Araña de Plata & Atomic Star
2) Canon & Dragón Celestial vs Picudo Jr. & Pleve
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Electro Boy, Imposible
4) Hijo De Dos Caras vs Black Terry, Metaleón, Hijo de Pirata Morgan,Danny Casas, X-Fly, Relámpago, Mr. Leo, Emperador Azteca, Hip Hop Man, Súper Nova, Veneno, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Eterno, Canis Lupus, Golden Magic, Máscara Sagrada, Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Pantera I, Pantera II [Guerra Revolucionaria]
luchadors become lumberjacks with straps when they’re eliminated from the match
IWRG’s back after mysteriously taking a week off and not airing a new TV episode in a couple weeks. This poster is missing the AYM logo – looking back, it seems like that’s been missing the 05/03 show. Not a good sign.
CMLL (MON) 05/18/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Leono & Sensei vs Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr.
2) Black Tiger, Lestat, Starman vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Furia Chicana
3) Estrellita, Goya Kong, Marcela vs Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
4) Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Titán vs Hechicero, Morphosis, Ripper
5) La Máscara, La Sombra, Marco Corleone vs Rey Escorpión, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Rush vs Shocker
All the Ingobernables on one show, which is probably bad news for Shocker. This would be a great build for an atomicos if CMLL did atomicos. Shocker has never beaten Rush in a singles match: they’ve had four other ones, including 2 in Puebla, and Rush has won every time.
Reyna Isis would make her debut here too; seems like she might be picking up regular bookings going forward, maybe because Comandante is in Japan.
Segunda would be Furia Chicana’s first appearance here since 2010, and that was a one off. He hasn’t been a regular since 2008.
AAA did not record, but it’s been up on their channel for days. Noches was a repeat. I have some old C3 from September included.
YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYyNnOBGWP7Q-oTv_WbpWzGcezKFSdkTe
Nothing actual news to talk about, so let’s wildly speculate about Lucha Underground’s future.
Tomorrow is Univision’s announcement of shows for next season. There’s been a fueled thought (mostly publicly from the WON, but Meltzer probably is passing along other people’s thoughts here) that Lucha Underground needs to get on Univison to thrive or maybe even live. It’s easy to see why this would be a huge help for Lucha Underground: Univision would be a much bigger network, would mean Lucha Underground would automatically get more eyeballs, and would pay more for the television show. There’d probably be a new group of network people getting involved in the production of the show, but it’d be a fair tradeoff for being secure.
It’s a lot harder to figure out why Univison would want Lucha Underground. It’s a tremendous leap from Unimas and El Rey to one of the biggest entworks in the country, a channel which can easily produce it’s own content and doesn’t need to repurpose shows from other networks. People generally don’t understand how large Univison is now and how unlikely it be for a network that size to pick up lucha. If it was suggested TNA or WWE had to get a weekly show on NBC to survive everyone would scoff, and Univison does better numbers among 18-34s than NBC (and even CBS) some weeks. Lucha Underground is doing OK numbers for Saturday afternoon on a secondary network sandwiched between reruns of decade old action movies, but they’re not exactly at all the numbers which gets a show called up to the bigger network. If Lucha Underground shows up Univison, it’s because they’ve convinced the right person to take a specific and strong interest in the promise of the show, despite not currently having the numbers they need. It’s lottery ticket odds, with the same sort of payoff.
At the same time, I’m not not convinced that it’s Univsion or bust. I think it’s Univison in the US or Televisa in Mexico or a bunch of other networks or some big presenting sponsor or some production cut backs or a combination of all these things or bust. The only requirement is they find some way to turn a profit on this show. Mark Burnett said as much a month ago in an interview about all his TV shows; they’ll keep going forever as long as his production company is making money running them. There’s a lot of ways to do it, they’ve still just got to get one of them to work, and there are glimmers of hope Lucha Underground could make it work. LU has dropped the ball on making money from fans*, but they seem to have improved on making money from other businesses. I figure most of you who are watching the show are finding illegal uploads on YouTube** where the commercials are cut out, but the quality advertisers for the show have greatly improved since the first episode. The shaky hair replacement products are pretty much gone, and the brand name car parts, cell phone and beer commercials are in their place. It’s so much better than the commercials I see on pretty much any other lucha libre show. People are able to sell Lucha Underground as a product, it’s just a matter of being able to sell to (enough of) the right people.
Univison’s already released the new shows they’ll announce tomorrow, for Unimas and Univison. El Rey is mentioned in passing but not for any show notes. Lucha Underground is not mentioned anywhere, but it’s not a new show and so wouldn’t normally come up. The Unimas new shows seem to be moving away from it’s current male/action focus, which doesn’t seem like good news for a wrestling show. Maybe the most distressing thing I’ve read in that is Univison is trying to make the word “billennial” happen. Let’s not do that.
If I had to make a prediction by arbitrarily picking numbers as a way to fake authority, these are the numbers I’d pick
5%: Lucha Underground announced as airing on Univison in some form
35%: mentioned/shown during the presentation in some other way that suggests they’re getting a second season
60%: Lucha Underground not mentioned at all, fate still unknown.
- If you want to buy a Fenix, Pentagon or Drago shirt, you can’t on LU online store but there’s a limited amount available released tonight at 8pm ET on LuchaShop.com.
** Hulu and t-shirt sales aren’t generating $20 million, but maybe enough to pay for one production person?
Local paper preview for tonight’s Arena Puebla show thinks Mr. Niebla is still wrestling in the main event. That’s a lot easier to predict – CMLL is willingly advertising someone who they know won’t appear, have probably told him not to show up, have already figured out who’s going to replace him and just aren’t going to tell anyone.
Former AAA luchadora Kaguya retired on Saturday. It’s actually simply the masked Mio Shirai, retiring her short lived Mexican gimmick in a match versus Ayako Hamada as part of a longer retirement tour, but the presentation included a message from Dorian Roldan noting Kaguya was AAA’s first masked luchadora from Japan.
A Mother’s Day interview with Dr. Wagner and Silver King’s mom. Good photo.
Hijo del Fantasma, at an AAA show in Ensenada, said AAA deserves credit for coming up with with new ideas.
CMLL (SUN) 05/17/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Explosivo & Meteoro vs Guerrero de la Muerte & Relampago
2) Frezzer, Linterna Verde Jr., Star Black vs El Piraña, Gitano, Thunder Boy
3) Hijo del Calavera & Metatrón vs Pitbull I & Pitbull II
4) Esfinge, Gallo, Magnum vs Maléfico, Ráfaga, Sádico
5) Virgo © vs Exterminador [OCCIDENTE MIDDLE]
first defense. This title has changed hands the last five times it’s been defended in this building.
A Sunday Guadalajara show with no new people is about as rare as a successful Occidente title defense.
CMLL (SAT) 05/09/2015 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Leono b Apocalipsis
Leono won via motocicleta
2) Flyer b Súper Comando
Super Comando replaced Disturbio on Monday. Fly won with a submission, something he’s not know for.
3) Sangre Azteca b Stigma
Sangre won with an anti-air dropkick and a submission.
4) Puma b Tritón
Puma double powerbomb for the win.
5) Morphosis & Ripper b Dragón Rojo Jr. & Guerrero Maya Jr.
Straight falls, with Dragon taking Maya’s mask after the match to complete he return to the rudo side.
6) Ángel de Oro, La Sombra, Valiente b Ephesto, Luciferno, Nitro
Sombra worked poorly with his partners, as always, but they still won. Nitro replaced Mephisto.
7) Máximo © b Rey Bucanero [CMLL HEAVY]
Seconds were Valiente and Rayo Fulminante. Maximo took falls 1/3, the last with a Kiss of Death, for his first defense. Money thrown in.
Dragon Rojo’s tecnico stint lasted ten months. A lot of that was injury time. Guess it’s a good thing Escorpion and Polvora never got a new partner, would’ve been awkward. (Poor Boby.)
AAA The Crash (FRI) 05/08/2015 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [The Gladiatores]
1) Eternus & X-peria b Dementor & Sargon
2) Cardenal Jr., Mirage, Star Dragon b Black Danger, Búfalo Ayala, Destroyer
3) Black Boy & Rey Horuz b Bestia 666 & Mosco Negro and Daga & Steve Pain [The Crash TAG]
Daga & Steve Pain reunited Anarquia, but lost. Black Boy & Rey Horuz are the first champions.
4) Pentagón Jr. b Ángel Metálico © and Drago and Zarco [The Crash Cruiser]
Angel Metalico (champion) and Zarco were taken out when they went thru a table. Pentagon beat Drago to win the title. e dedicated the win to Hijo del Perro Aguayo.
5) Hijo del Fantasma © b Fénix [AAA CRUISER]
Texano seconded Fantasma and helped him during the win (finished via cradle piledriver.) Fantasma’s fourth defense. The Perros del Mal, including Kahn, brought out a giant picture of Perro as part of a cermony to honor him after the match.
6) Brian Cage, El Mesías, Texano Jr. DQ Angélico, Blue Demon Jr., Psycho Clown
Rudos took 1/3, Mesias knocking down the referee and faking a foul from Demon.
First show for the promotion back in Tijuana after Perro’s death. Can’t tell how well they did in the photos. The Tijuana newspapers who wore extensively about Perro’s death gave the show normal levels (very little) of coverage – not even the standard “here’s how things have changed since the last show” article. It does point towards any momentum for changes in lucha libre commissions to be just about extinguished.
Pentagon now has three different belts in hand, and this one might also show up on AAA TV.
CMLL (SUN) 05/10/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Bengala & Magnus b Camorra & El Rebelde
2) Estrellita, Goya Kong, Silueta b Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany
Moms Silueta, Estrellita and Tiffany took photos with their children before the match. First Estrellita Arena Mexico match in nearly three months; she’s been busy with her dancing show.
3) Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado b Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther
Pierroth surprised Fuego in the third with a powerbonb for the win.
4) Vangellys b Titán [lightning]
Vangellys beat Titan in 8:24
5) Blue Panther, Marco Corleone, Máximo b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
6) Felino, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr.
Ultimo Guerrero replaced Barbaro Cavernario on Monday. Negro Casas replaced Mr. Niebla on Sunday. Ultimo Guerrero used the ropes to beat Volador.
Mr. Niebla’s last Arena Mexico match took place in the main event last Sunday. (He also wrestled the next day in Puebla.) That Niebla Arena Mexico match was edited out of the Claro Sports broadcast, which is very unusual on CMLL broadcasts. They didn’t cut out any of Mr. Niebla’s recent no condition appearances, so it could be for other reasons here, but it’s at least a little curious. It did end up leaving Cavernario/Titan with 27:25 of TV time, so no one is complaining.
The Lucha World Cup iPPV site is up, and it looks like the cost will be $19 USD. That’s nearly twice the price of Rey de Reyes. It’s probably a more expensive show than Rey de Reyes, but I’d also guess they’re still experimenting with finding out how much they can charge for these. Same provider as last time (which went well.) Not sure if they’ll be raising the price on the day of the show, as they did with Rey de Reyes, but you should prepare as if they will. On the other hand, the FAQ still says the show will disappear from on demand seven days after the show but the Rey de Reyes VOD is still available six weeks later.
Argos, and only Argos so far, turned out to be the exchange to TNA in return to for the US promoting being part of the Lucha World Cup. Argos hasn’t been on AAA TV in ten months, seemingly losing his already fringe TV role when AAA dropped Consejo as a group, but will be on TNA’s TV in May. Argos, at least at the moment, seems like a guy unlikely to be used on Lucha Underground any time soon, which may have been the reason he was picked to go to TNA. In a show taped on Saturday for May 22nd, Argos was in a six way #1 contenders match.
Fuego en el Ring said Arena Coliseo Guadalajara is working on broadcasting their shows live locally. It appears a one hour show of Guadalajara lucha is airing on local channel 4 on Saturday mornings currently, having started last week.
Vanely won the WWS championship on Saturday, right before she heads to Europe to represent the promotion. Former champ Starfire (I think) vacated the title before heading to Japan, and Vanely says she’ll give her a match for the title.
Lizmark Jr. won the AIWA Heavyweight Championship, though it’s probably more newsworthy for being Hijo del Dr. Wagner’s first match since injuring his elbow in a match a few weeks ago.
Mr. Aguila, who’s gone missing from CMLL since March, missed a scheduled match in Cicero, Illinois on Saturday.
Arena Azteca in Torreon very quietly had an AAA vs CMLL match, by including locals Stukita and Machine Rocker in a normal main event trios. Fake Gloria Trevi was probably the draw.
SuperLuchas looks back at Andre el Gigante visiting UWA in 1992, just as AAA was about to start.
RobViper has a music video of 01/23/15 AAA in Naucalpan.
Segunda Caida reviews PWR 05/09/15.
CMLL (SAT) 05/16/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Molotov vs Cholo
2) Sensei vs Espanto Jr.
3) La Vaquerita vs Reyna Isis
Isis’ Coliseo (and CMLL Mexico City) debut
4) Pegasso vs Okumura
5) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Sagrado
6) Dragon Lee & Tritón vs Hechicero & Kamaitachi
7) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
Ingobernables/TGR is a bit bigger name match than usual for this show. Semimain could be a great match if they’re up to it, and Maya/Sagrado should be good as well.
CMLL (SUN) 05/17/2015 Arena México
1) Magnus & Metatrón vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Flyer, Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel
3) Tritón vs Okumura [lightning]
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther Jr., Valiente vs Ephesto, Kráneo, Luciferno
5) La Sombra, Rush, Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) La Máscara, Máximo, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Shocker
The following week is the Lucha World Cup, and it would be usual for CMLL to make a token effort at competing. Top two matches make no sense the way they have them set up. It’s possible there’s some juggling because Mr. Niebla was supposed to be doing something (with Volador?) and now he’s not around. The rudo sides are broken up the same way they’ve been on Tuesday when they’ve set up the tag title feud, so it’s possible the new idea is Maximo & Volador challenging Negro Casas & Shocker on the 24th.