great match roundup, week of 2017-05-27

the return of LU is bad news for tables

watched this week

Lucha Underground is back and already has the best match of the week. This is not a surprise. I watched a lot of stuff that wasn’t particular good. Like all of AAA.

I’ve updated the MOTYC list too. I know there’s been a lot of forgettable stuff and neither CMLL or AAA has been at the top, but I usually have more excellent matches by now. It’s been slow going.

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great the Mack vs Johnny Mundo © [LU CHAMP] and [all night long] Lucha Underground: 2017-05-31 2016-04-24
good Esfinge, Oro Jr., Starman vs Puma, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 30 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-30 2017-05-30

Other Matches Watched

ok Australian Suicide & Bengala vs El Mesías & Pagano AAA Worldwide desde Tlaxcala Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA)Pagano y Mesías Vs Bengala y Australian en Tlaxcala - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-05-27 2017-04-29
ok Asturiano & Zaeta Roja vs Guerrero Espacial & Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 29 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-29 2017-05-29
ok Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno vs Ares & Metálico LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 29 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-29 2017-05-29
ok Lestat, Rey Samuray, Starman vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 29 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-29 2017-05-29
ok Stigma, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 29 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-29 2017-05-29
ok Rush vs Mr. Niebla LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 29 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-29 2017-05-29
ok Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 29 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-29 2017-05-29
ok Bengala & Leono vs Artillero & Hijo del Signo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 30 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-30 2017-05-30
ok Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 30 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-30 2017-05-30
ok Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 30 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-30 2017-05-30
ok Blue Panther, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 30 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-30 2017-05-30
ok Marco Corleone vs Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 30 DE MAYO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-05-30 2017-05-30
ok Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Violencia 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Virus 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Rey Cometa vs Dragón Rojo Jr. in a lightning match 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Hechicero, Pierroth, Rush vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Cuatrero & Esfinge vs Sansón, Star Jr., Forastero, Pegasso, Stigma, Espanto Jr. in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and in a tournament semifinal match 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Blue Panther & Pegasso vs Mistico & Star Jr. in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and [8f] 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Espanto Jr. & Kráneo vs Sansón & Último Guerrero in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and [8f] 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Stigma & Titán vs Forastero & Shocker in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and [8f] 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Atlantis & Esfinge vs Cuatrero & Máscara Año 2000 in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and [8f] 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Mistico & Star Jr. vs Sansón & Último Guerrero in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and in a tournament quarterfinal match 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Atlantis & Esfinge vs Forastero & Shocker in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and in a tournament quarterfinal match 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
ok Sansón & Último Guerrero vs Atlantis & Esfinge in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament match and in a tournament semifinal match 2017-06-02 CMLL Claro (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-06-02 2017-06-02
below average Mamba & Ricky Marvin vs Averno & Pimpinela EscarlataAAA Worldwide desde Tlaxcala Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Averno y Mamba Vs Marvin y Pimpinela en Tlaxcala - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-05-27 2017-04-29
below average Big Mami vs La Hiedra, Goya Kong, Lady Shani AAA Worldwide desde Tlaxcala Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA)Shani Vs Hiedra Vs Mami Vs Goya en Tlaxcala - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-05-27 2017-04-29
bad Psycho Clown vs Kevin Kross AAA Worldwide desde Tlaxcala Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Psycho Clown Vs Kevin Kross en Tlaxcala - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Mayo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-05-27 2017-04-29



Gran Alternativa continues tonight, Copa Bobby Bonales to return


CMLL’s Gran Alternativa continues tonight. The winner of today’s eight team block of rookie/veteran tag matches face Ultimo Guerrero & Sanson next week.

Most of the teams don’t look to have much of a shot, as always. At least one of Mephisto & Raziel, Astral & Valiente, Angel de Oro & Oro Jr., Akuma & Pierroth, and Canelo & Negro Casas will win a match because someone has to, but would be shocking finalists. Caristico & Soberano would normally be the overwhelming favorites, only it would both set up a rematch of the Copa Junior held just weeks ago. (Caristico doesn’t seem to get the big wins either in this CMLL run, but simply advancing to the final is not a big win, next week would be.) Flyer & Volador are a dark horse team; Volador’s one of the most important people in CMLL, but Flyer is one of the least important, rarely escaping the opening matches. Drone & Niebla Roja might be the smart pick, since it would continue the Roja/Guerrero issue and Drone’s used as high on the card than as any rookie here. He’s also been doing these forever.

Past Gran Alternativa experience:
4: Hombre Bala (2011 first round w/La Mascara, 2012 first round w/Marco, 2013 final with Atlantis, 2014 first round with Maximo)
3: Oro Jr. (2013 first round w/Mascara Dorada, 2014 semifinals w/Sombra, 2016 first round w/Valiente
2: Akuma (2013 first round w/Mephisto, 2014 first round w/Rey Bucanero)
2: Soberano Jr. (2013 semifinals w/Sombra, 2014 finals w/Volador)
1: Flyer (2016 quarterfinals, w/Atlantis)
1: Canelo Casas (2014 first round w/Negro Casas)
1: Raziel (2012, semifinals w/Volador)
0: Astral

ESTO has an interview with Mephisto and his rookie, 23 year vet Raziel. They think experience will give them the edge. I think they probably could’ve stuck an actual rookie in the match since they’ll only be around for maybe five minutes. This is Raziel’s only second Gran Alternativa – he was in the 2012 one prior.

It’s a packed show with four other matches. Dragon Lee returns to Arena Mexico tot team with his brother Msitico and Dragon Lee against the Guerreros in what should be a fast paced match. Guerrero Maya Jr. & Misterioso meet in the lightning match. (Maya won the one singles match they’ve had five years ago.) Sugehit & Zeuxis again face off in the women’s match, which feels like it should be going somewhere. A midcard title match next week could fit with a tag main event. Metalico & Arkangel take on Principe Diamante & Robin in the usual level of opener.

The show will air at 8:30 on ClaroSports and the MarcaClaro Facebook page.

David Aceves posted a photo of him with Sofia Alonso and a Copa Bobby Bonales, which occasionally pops up  in CMLL honor of his Aceves’ father. Bobby Bonales was an early luchador, Aceves was a silver medal. The Copa has a date of June 30, 2017, so I guess it’s happening in three weeks. It’s been less a competition and more just something awarded by Aceves in the past: Ultimo Guerrero was given it in 2013. Atlantis was given it in 2011.

DTU is running tonight in Tijuana. Ciudad Madero, a city AAA’s repeatedly tried to run a big show and been unable, will host a The Crash filled show today: Rey Mysterio, Daga & Garza take on Bestia, Damian and Psicosis in the main event.

IWRG has Festival de las Mascaras, on 07/02 Arena Naucalpan
1: Dragon Fly, Dinamick Black, Black Dragon vs Hip Hop Man, Pibe Alfajor, Mosca

Fuego en el Ring has the latest edition of their podcast.

LuchaWorld has their latest podcast and news update.

Zona Ruda had Averno cooking food on his grill and I’m clearly watching the wrong AAA show.

Kcidis draws the new CMLL champ


Lucha Memes (SUN) 06/18/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México
1) Alas de Acero & Aramis vs King Rocker & Rey Samurai
2) Arez, Belial, Impulso vs Blue Tiger, Hijo Del Vikingo, Perverso Jr.
3) Rey Apocalipsis vs Eterno
4) Sádico & Terry 2000 vs Multifacetico (Puebla) & Prayer
5) Toxin vs Arkalis
6) Iron Kid vs Demus 3:16

Quick turn around for Lucha Memes with an all indie crew. It’s kind of a home/home with the Arena Puebla show, with the first five matches all Mexico City/Mexico State versus Puebla. Hijo del Vikingo is the recent standout on AAA shows. Arkalis & Rey Samuray in an environment with no limits is interesting.

Lucha Memes also announced they’ll be putting together a Chairo show with the ROH/NJPW talent coming in for the 09/01 CMLL Gran Prix.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-05-30 

Soberano Jr.

Recapped: 06/06/2017


Artillero & Hijo del Signo beat Bengala & Leono (15:09 [6:15, 5:10, 3:44], 1/3, viaVideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis (12:11 [5:14, 3:38, 3:19], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Puma, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr. beat Esfinge, Oro Jr., Starman (13:55 [5:23, 3:17, 5:15], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, good)

Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado (12:02 [4:40, 3:37, 3:45], 1/3 DQ, via  VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero beat Blue Panther, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. (15:53 [6:04, 4:09, 5:40], 1/3, via  VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Marco Corleone beat Terrible (8:49, 1/3 via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

  1. Marco Corleone inside cradle (1:32)

  2. Terrible dropkick (1:20)

  3. Marco Corleone Aero Italiano (5:57)

What happened:

Univero’s finish is kind of like Canelo Casas’ finish, but actually good

Not much. Marco beat Terrible in the main event to end their feud for a moment. Sagrado unmasked Blue Panther Jr. for no real reason. Princesa Sugehit & Zeuxis feuded as always.



The usual forgettable Tuesday show overall, thought the main event felt a little different the usual. It was a lot more about the win and less about playing to the crowd, with Marco and Terrible taking some of their usual chemistry into a quick three falls match. There were more than a few spots that felt like it was a dry run for the cibernetico a week later, especially Marco pulling out the same cradle here that he’d use to win the title. They made it work for the time they had and it wasn’t far of from being good.

The rest of the bigger matches were about the same for me. The third one held together a little better than the two trios after it, and didn’t have a pointless DQ like the fourth match. Tiger & Puma looked very smooth in the match (the opposite of Oro Jr.) and made that match work. Universo 2000 Jr. looked alright, but he’s maybe a match higher than he should be at this point and not yet at the level of his cousins.

Soberano worked well with the semimain rudos. Mephisto’s obviously the big match for him, but I also wanted to see him work with Gran Guerrero – if only to see how far Gran Guerrero could throw him on his finish if he didn’t really care about hurting Soberano.

lucha TV preview for weekend of June 9th


I can probably leave the same description for Lucha Underground for the next month. A 32 person tournament means 16 first round matches, and 16 divides into 4 matches for 4 shows pretty well. I’m not entirely sure which ones air when, and the preview gives no clues.

CMLL Azteca probably has the first half of the Gran Alternativa tournament, while Claro has the second half.

AAA has the second half of the Arena Aficion show. They skipped over the Faby Apache/Ayako Hamada match last week, but hopefully will show it this week. We won’t see the matches from Juarez for quite some time.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-05-29 


Recapped: 06/02/2017-06/04/2017


Asturiano & Zaeta Roja beat Guerrero Espacial & Rey Apocalipsis (14:39 [6:15, 2:51, 5:33], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Ares & Metálico beat Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno (19:10 [8:36, 4:34, 6:00], 2/3, viaVideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Fuerza Chicana beat Lestat, Rey Samuray, Starman (15:09 [7:22, 3:46, 4:01], 1/3, viaVideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Stigma, Stuka Jr., Valiente beat Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón (14:00 [6:48, 3:56, 3:16], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Rush beat Mr. Niebla (12:02, 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

  1. Rush senton (1:34)

  2. Mr. Niebla middle rope senton (3:02)

  3. Rush corner dropkick (7:26)

Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Niebla Roja beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (9:04 [2:03, 2:24, 4:37], 2/3 DQ, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

What happened:

Puebla action

Último Guerrero ripped up and unmasked Niebla Roja again. UG still wants him to stop wearing it. Niebla Roja wanted a rematch for next week.

Niebla kicked out of the first fall pin, but they counted it anyway. Rush beat Niebla clean in the third, and left Niebla without his mask before taking a bow on the ramp.


Niebla spinng forearm

With this show, I watched Rush/Mr. Niebla live, watched the first half of the show days later, and watched the second half of the show days after that. It really wasn’t work looking at three times, it was another show where it’s OKs all the way down only because it’s not worth thinking deeper.

The main event was hot for it lasted. Niebla Roja convinces me he might be able to have a good match with Ultimo Guerrero every time he does the spinning forearm, which looks a lot better than the spinning headscissors. Euforia actually dropped Mistico on a dive, so he’s now like 2499 for 2500.

Niebla/Rush was about as good as it’s going to be with Niebla working a normal match, which is no great praise. Niebla didn’t seem to be out of sorts but Rush didn’t seem to trust him to do much – even on the usual argument to set up a surprise cradle spot, Rush kept looking back to make sure Niebla would actually be there. Rush was not going full out, but he was trying, you don’t do a big senton to nowhere unless you actually want the match to be good. This one just felt like not a lot to it by the second time I watched it.

Rey Samuray

The fourth match was the most complete trios match with a surprise result, but nothing really worth going back for at this late date. The Dinamitas looked good for their time, but didn’t do much they don’t normally do. It was a surprise result for me because I’m just expecting the regular trio to win, but the técnicos are higher regarded. Stigma getting Sansón up for the Stigmatica should be impossible. Mascara 2000’s looking backwards, carefully rolling out of the ring bumps still kill me. Stuka’s suplex onto someone nearly killed one of the NGD. Tecnicos struggled with the usual double corner moonsault spot. Valiente never wins with the springboard reverse tope he finishes with her here, maybe he was just switching it up since he could’ve just as easily won with one of his submission if the usual Valiente Buster was going to a problem.

My only notes on the tercera were that Lestat & Rey Samuray looked good and no one else did.

The mat work in the second match was fine but it came in the killer long first fall and then the match just went on and on. There’s no reason early matches need to be going 19 minutes, none of them benefit from it.. Metálico, as guy who entertains beyond just his matches, might be a more valuable guy with Maximo gone, but he’s got to add more to what he’s doing in the ring to match his entrance and it might be too late for him anyway.

I was set to actually give a Good grade to the opener after two falls, and then they had a deadly boring third fall in usual CMLL opener style. I don’t know why the rudos took the match so far down, except that must be the law. Asturiano is really good and Zaeta Roja didn’t seem that far behind him tonight, and I wish we could see what they could do in an actual feud rather than the batch that are always in them. They looked super in the start of the second fall and generally felt like they were doing much better stuff than we usually get in this spot. Rey Apocalipsis looked wild and out of control whenever he was on offense, forcing in spots that weren’t really working, but at least he could keep up with the técnicos better than the DF early rudos.

Niebla & Rush struggle

CMLL announces Gran Prix (w/NJPW & ROH) for 09/01, El Rey on LU

CMLL will hold another Gran Prix on September 1st. It was announced on Informa yesterday, with people from NJPW & ROH scheduled to participate. No names were announced.

CMLL likes to spread out major shows, so a Gran Prix on 09/01 suggests the CMLL Anniversary show is probably 09/22 and 09/29. (If they can announce the Gran Prix, it’d be smart if they announce that date as well.)

Also on Informa, Flyer revealed was designed by Volador, who based off the Komachi character he played in Japan. (This is the Mistico version of that character, you can see the resemblance.)

Marisela (& Antonio) Peña’s father, Don Polo Peña, passed away. This is the second member of the family to pass away in a short time, which much me very rough. Zorro mentions Don Polo helped him early in his career.

ESPN has an interview with Daniel Tibbetts, El Rey president, on Lucha Underground. It goes about 2,000 words and I’m not sure they nail him down to saying anything definite, it’s the usual “we’re high on the show but we absolutely do not want to talk about season 4 until after season 3 is over” and “all options are open (for PPV)” that doesn’t really say anything and gives you a sneaking feeling there’s not a big plan here. Saying they don’t want to talk about Season 4 until after Season 3 means we’re not going to have any resolution about where this is all going until well into pumpkin spice time. Tibbetts thought Lucha Underground going on hiatus was great, but then he’s also probably the guy who made that decision.

Powerbomb.TV announced they’ll present their own championship on Sunday’s show.  They’re planning on a tournament that’ll reach into Mexico, the US and Canada and will announce details during the show.

The Mi Pasion x Lucha Libre says Lucha Memes drew 1,300 people. They say that little it’s a disappointment given the card, but 1,300 fans for an indie show is only a disappointment in Mexico, everyone else it’s a big success. EDIT: Lucha Memes says the total was 2,115, which is even better.

Dragon Lee tells Superluchas he’s looking forward to his match with Juventud Guerrera on June 22nd, though he’s not much of a history guy and doesn’t watch a lot of stuff from before he got into wrestling. SuperLuchas has an article about the press conference for that Super X show.

Mascara & Maximo are working in Guatemala this weekend.

Lucha Memes on 06/18 in Coliseo Coacalco

  1. Iron Kid vs Demus

The Seattle Times writes about Lucha Libre Volcanica.

Atlantis, Oriental, Zumbido, Solar, Cinthia Moreno, Ludark are headed to Spain for shows on June 23 & June 24th.

The new Lucha Talk talks about Lucha Underground, X-Law, Verano de Escandalo and more.

TKD and CultIcon review this week’s Lucha Underground.

The Gladiatores interviews Roxana Cantu, Nuevo Laredo lucha promoter working with AAA (and rare promoter who happens to be a woman.)


IWRG (SUN) 06/11/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Kanon vs Vórtize
2) Aramis & Climax Jr. vs Demonio Infernal & Lunatic Extreme
3) Látigo vs Freelance
4) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Villano III Jr.
5) Gallo Frances, Internacional Pantera, Pantera I vs Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
6) Heddi Karaoui vs Negro Navarro
7) Imposible, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Black Warrior, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro

Traumas versus Black Warrior continues. Gallo Frances is working with Heddi Karaoui on other indie shows. This is is Latigo’s first IWRG match almost since he was still a Tortuga Ninja; he’s back representing Indy Nation.

DTU (THU) 06/29/2017 Arena Aficion
1) Erwing, Irwing, Luigi vs Billy, Hard Boy, Macizito
2) Astrolux, Kid Cometa, Kingston, Tiburón, Toto vs Black Metal, Drolux, Pardux, Tony Iron, Voldemort
3) Aeroboy, Cobre, Moria vs ?, ??, Mike Segura
4) Jimmy & Kevin vs El Exótico & Pesadilla and Gio & Junior
5) Crazy King vs Markus Crane, Pólux Jr., Corsario Negro Jr.
6) Paranoiko & Tóxico vs Ángel o Demonio & Ovett and Halloween & Súper Mega
7) Cíclope & Miedo Extremo vs Jimmy Lloyd & Matt Tremont

DTU just ended their last tour and already has card out for the next. The Hidalgo shows are the ones which +LuchaTV usually makes the trip, so this has a better chance of turning up than the Queretaro show the next day. Lloyd, Tremon, and Crane are in from Game Changer Wrestling, while Mike Segura and Super Mega join in as X-LAW reps with two more to be announced.


Lucha Underground 3×21: Sudden Death

slow motion Puma absurdity


Johnny Mundo beat the Mack in a falls count anywhere match for the Lucha Underground championship (9:42, sunset flip powerbomb on chair, great) – 3rd defense

Drago, Vibora and Pindar beat Aerostar, Drago and Fenix (c) for the LU Trios Champs (5:34, Drago splash Aerostar, ok) – champs fall on 3rd TV defense, Reptile Tribe is 7th Champs

Prince Puma beat Mil Muertes in a Boyle Heights street fight (11:36, brick to the head, great)


Johnny Mundo crowd dive

It took ten extra minutes, but Johnny Mundo is still Lucha Underground champion. Mundo survived the Mack and a falls count anywhere stipulation being added on at the last second by Dario Cueto. This match was even more of a brawl than last week, with both men taking advantage of the rules to win it on the outside. Mundo took advantage of the rules also by having Worldwide Underground interfere. It played out a little like last week, only Son of Havoc wasn’t around to help and Taya was – she saved Mundo from being suplexed out of the ring onto chairs, and Mundo powerbombed Mack onto those same chairs to retain the title.

Mundo’s celebration lasted all of one shower. While he was taking it, Dario announced Mundo’s next challenger will be Rey Mysterio. Mundo admitted he was worried when it was announced, sure it would be his toughest challenge yet and went to get training immediately. (Like, even before he put on some pants.) Dario says Matanza was specifically not getting the title match because of embarrassing the family “two weeks ago” by taking the backdrop thru the ceiling from Rey, and Rey’s performance there got him the title shot.

That title match won’t happen for some time. It’ll be the same show as the Cueto Cup final, the culmination of a 32 man single elimination tournament that’ll take place over the next many weeks. It’s unclear if Matanza was meant to be excluded from the tournament as well (but it definitely won’t include Rey & Mundo since they’ve got the title match.)

Prince Puma crowd div- wait no

The other two matches were about people moving to the dark side. Fenix & Aerostar had rescued Drago last time we saw them, but he didn’t seem to understand what was going on. Tonight’s match confirmed he’d been brainwashed by Kobra Moon, betraying his teammates at his first chance and handing the match to the Reptile Tribe. Drago actually switched corners during the match and tagged himself in, so it looks like the champs are Drago, Pindar and Vibora with Kobra Moon leading things from the outside.

Prince Puma also gave into his dark impulses. Or, maybe “Octavio”, since that’s what Rey called Puma early in the show. Rey tried to convince Puma that Vampiro was no good for him and using him, but Puma was too far gone, too haunted by his death and Konnan’s death. A spooky Vampiro told Rey to stay out of it. Puma wore black for the match and made a point of using weapons when possible. He had the match won when Catrina hit him with the stone. Vampiro, who was silent when he wasn’t rooting for Puma from the desk, handed Puma a brick. Puma considered the act, and still smashed into Mil Muertes’ head to get the win. Vampiro seemed satisfied with the action as much as the result.

We didn’t get a peak at anyone else this week. Ricky seems to be now firmrly in Worldwide Underground as Johnny’s lackey, not just a fan acting on his own. Jack Evans was very quickly referenced as having suffered some accident to explain why he hasn’t been part of these segments.


Aerostar being Aerostar with an old friend

This was one of the top “end of chapter” shows they’ve had on Lucha Underground. It reminded me a lot of episode 20 in the first season, because it also had a Prince Puma street fight (with Cage), plus the blowoff bull rope match for the AAA title with Texano & Alberto, and Son of Havoc breaking up with Ivelisse in his match with Angelico. We got another really strong title match, and a split that hopefully will work as well as that one. The matches were just as good too. That season 1 episode felt like a leveling up point, where they went from a show that was doing very good to one that felt like The Best Show Going. There wasn’t the same momentum going in to tonight’s show, but it very much felt like Lucha Underground doing what it does at it’s best.

This street fight felt a lot different than the one Puma had with Cage, and a different from the other limited rules match earlier in the night. Puma/Cage was Puma at this incredible athletic best, and definitely his coast to coast flipping dropkick was an amazing athletic feat, but this one was just as much about Puma giving in to Vampiro’s teachings. In the end, it’s Vampiro winning with Puma as his vessel and I’m not sure how good an idea that is long term, but they executed it well. Puma was more viscous, less playing to the crowd, not showing off and posing like the pre-death Prince Puma. It wasn’t over the top, and there was still plenty of the good old Puma/Muertes fabulous chemistry too. This match was about Puma, but Mil Muertes reminded everyone what a tremendous destroyer he can be, just walloping Puma at times to put a stop to his big moves. Catrina’s rock shot near the end didn’t look great, didn’t have the impact of something that was knocking Prince Puma off his feet, but it’s a minor gripe in a typically very strong match between the two. This is obviously a rivalry LU is going to keep revisiting from time to time as long as either man is around, and hopefully we get one more look at it before anything changes there.

this is a finish

Mack/Mundo 2 (1.5? Still 1.0?) was a lot of fun. Dario deciding Mack deserved an edge and Falls Count Anywhere didn’t really make sense, at least not the way he explained it, but it allowed them to have more fun with the Temple than they had even last week. They definitely had people believing a title change on that powerbomb, and I think people would’ve been completely satisfied with this match if it was the only one they had. The one negative is it felt a little bit like last week because of the interference spots, except that was a bit more entertaining interference. It made sense they’d be there, and Taya being the difference fits with the story they’ve been telling, but it did take a little bit away from the match.

This looks like the end for Mack’s title chase with the tournament coming up, but he delivered big time these two weeks. (I don’t want to re-litigate this, but it’s impossible to compare the kind of title matches when Sexy Star was around the title and the matches they’ve had the last two weeks, it’s not even close.) Mack didn’t seem to be a focus the last couple seasons, but hopefully this got him bigger into future plans

The trios title match was the least of the three matches to no surprise. They did do the extended Aerostar/Vibora sequence hope for since Reptile Steve Pain showed up here, and it was as great as it was in AAA. Maybe it might convince someone to put it together again elsewhere. That was pretty much all the match; Fenix did some stuff with Vibora, but it seemed edited or carefully shot (cutting away from Vibora taking the head kick was the peak) to hide his struggles. The mist looked as bright green as I’ve seen it, convincing me they worked some Hollywood magic to spruce up the usual bit. Dragon, Fenix and Aerostar was a predictably fun team, but who knows if we’ll actually see them all together again. Melissa sadly announcing the new champs was a nice touch.

I do have some trepidation about Cueto Cup and the next few weeks. 32 people in a tournament, assuming they’re doing a tournament in a normal fashion, means they’ve got a lot of matches to get thru for the next while. The good side is everyone should make an appearance over the next four weeks alone, since 32 people not including Rey and Mundo (and maybe Matanza?) means pretty much everyone on the roster has to be in this thing. Everyone getting a chance to do something is very much the Lucha Underground way. The concerning side is there’s probably not going to be time for the giant size matches we got on this show, and shows with these sorts of matches are Lucha Underground at it’s best.

That’s the next couple weeks. This week was great.

underappreciated huge move in a match with a lot of them

Marco Corlelone new heavyweight champion, Volador/Cavernario, LU preview

new champ/photo via Marco Corleone’s twitter

CMLL (TUE) 06/06/2017 Arena México
1) Artillero & Espanto Jr. b Bengala & Sangre Imperial LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Acero, Aéreo, Eléctrico b Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3
3) Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tencicos took 2/3
4) Titán b Ephesto [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther b Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
6) Cavernario, Negro Casas, Shocker b Stuka Jr., Valiente, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 6 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Shocker replaced Mr. Niebla. Negro Casas replaced Felino. Cavernario submitted Volador.

I’ve seen none of this so far but it sounds like they’re setting up Volador/Cavernario. Not next week, they’re doing another trios setup first.

CMLL (TUE) 06/06/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Nautilius & Ráfaga b El Alteño & Star Black
Match dropped from the poster with the lineup, then took place anyway. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Cosmos, Shockercito, Stukita ?? Mercurio, Micro, Relámpago Azul
Micro, normally a tecnico, replaced Pierrothito on 06/01. Tecnicos took 1, rudos took 2/, no finish mentioned.
3) Puma, Sangre Azteca, Tiger b Magnus, Star Jr., Starman
4) Marco Corleone b Mr. Niebla, Rush, Gran Guerrero, Pierroth, Terrible, Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Bucanero, Kráneo, Euforia [CMLL HEAVY, cibernetico]
Cibernetico for vacant championship (Maximo firing). Sides were Gran Guerrero, Euforia, Terrible, Pierroth and Rush against Marco Corleone, Rey Bucanero, Mr. Niebla, Dragon Rojo and Kraneo. Eliminations: Dragon Rojo (Pierroth), Gran Guerrero (Rush), Euforia (Kraneo), Pierroth (Niebla), Kraneo (Terrible), Rush (Marco), Niebla (Terrible), and Marco beat Terrible to win the title. He’s the 19th champion, first foreigner to hold the title in 20 years, and it’s his first singles title win in Mexico. It was also his first shot at the heavyweight title.

There’s fan Periscope video of the title change here; since the Guadalajara show is only aired locally, it might be the only video of it we get to see. (They should air highlights on Informa today.) The crowd reacted big to both Marco pinning Rush and Marco winning the title. I did not see it coming, and still thought Terrible was winning when it went to the final two. Marco’s frequently the most over guy on shows and it makes sense for him to be heavyweight champion. It’s a nice achievement for him, a guy who probably was tabbed to to be a future heavyweight champion from early in his career and finally being able to achieve it.

CMLL’s preview for Saturday’s title match says it’s a 1v1 tournament until they determine a new Light Heavyweight match. CMLL also changed the lineup page to say it’s a cibernetico. I think it’s probably a cibernetico, but maybe they’re also actually giving out the title on Saturday.

Universo 2000 is in the hospital after suffering a heart attack Tuesday. The Dinamitas talked about the situation after their match last night, and were heading to Leon to check on him. He suffered a heart attack last year as well, but was said to be recovering fine. Unvierso was originally reported in grave conditions, but is said to be stable now.

Sanson and Ultimo Guerrero talk about advancing in the Gran Alternativa; Ultimo Guerrero is one of Sanson’s trainers.

Lucha Underground has episode 3×21 tonight, “Sudden Death”. Matches announced on the show

  • Johnny Mundo (c) vs the Mack for the Lucha Underground championship (starts the show, must be a winner)
  • Prince Puma vs Mil Muertes in a Boyle Heights Street Fight (listed only in the TV preview, not yet online.)

LU’s also mentioned Dario will have an announcement which will affect the second half of the season. It is not another hiatus. They also released a Kobra Moon promo, where she says she’s coming for the trios titles. It’s either this week or rather soon.

Kortiz Kaving will now be known as Villano V Jr., after a video where Ray Mendoza Jr. handed over the name to his son. The original idea was all the Villano kids would have to create their own names after the sons of Ray Mendoza had to create their own but the idea changed. Kortiz Kaving hasn’t wrestled since breaking his leg last September, but he’ll retun  with the new name on July 2nd in IWRG. I’d assume this means Kaving Kortiz may eventually become Hijo de Villano V.

On Juventud Guerrera’s TV show, Sharlie Rockstar said Elite would return in August. It would be incredibly rare for a promotion to stop existing for 10 months and then come back.

The Arena Mexico Freedom is offering children’s birthday parties and discounts if you’re bringing a guest.

+LuchaTV has their latest podcast with Villano V & Juventud Guerrera.

LigerFever recaps the latest Podcast Boom

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania  and the latest Lucha Report.

Herodes talks about his post wrestling career as a massage therapy.


CMLL (MON) 06/12/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Flyer, Meyer, París vs Joker, King Jaguar, Policeman
2) Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray vs Ares, Disturbio, Hijo del Signo
3) Drone, Esfinge, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado
4) Atlantis, Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone vs Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Ripper
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Caristico talked about putting this together on Informa and they’re actually teaming one time. Probably no more than once because it’s CMLL.

This will be the 4th straight week where Ares will appear after not appearing since February. Tigre Rojo Jr. gets a shot in a real match.

CMLL (TUE) 06/13/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia
2) Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Star Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Fuego vs Misterioso Jr. [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, Titán vs Hechicero, Morphosis, Rey Bucanero
6) Stuka Jr., Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

Morphosis getting regular bookings again. This is surprisingly on the second time Fuego & Misterioso Jr. meet in a lightning match (Misterioso won in 2015), though they also meant during an En Busca de Un Idolo (Fuego won).

Revolucha The Crash (SUN) 07/09/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Jerrito Estrada & Mini Hator vs Mini Bengalí & Mini Difunto
2) Golden Boy & Rey Demonio Jr. vs Erika Sotelo & Larry Miranda
3) Demus 666 & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Arez & Rico Rodríguez
4) Cibernético & Sharlie Rockstar vs Damián 666 & Zorro
5) Bestia 666 vs Daga, Willie Mack, Último Ninja, Sammy Guevara
6) Garza Jr. & Penta 0M vs La Máscara & M-ximo

Llaves y Candados is now promoting as Revolucha for reasons I don’t quite understand. They’re also back in Arena Coliseo Monterrey after saying they’d run this show elsewhere. Everything is a mystery. Demus 666 appears to be Demus 3:16 under his old mentor’s numbers.

CMLL (TUE) 06/13/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Rielero vs Exterminador & Maléfico
2) Cosmos, Eléctrico, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Relámpago Azul
3) La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Running two women’s matches on Tuesday sometimes mean a rather dire lineup. Newcomer Rielero makes a Tuesday show already.

CILL & GALLI: 2017-06-03

So, sometimes I actually leave my computer screen to go lucha shows. Usually, this happens on a Sunday – but by the time I get home, I’ve got to rush to write a post among a dozen other things. Videos go up on YouTube channel and the results are tucked into the database but I never actually saying much about at the shows. Since my life appears to exist solely to find more content for the website, I’m going to see if I can write a little bit about the couple I saw this past weekend.

CILL (SUN) 06/04/2017 Sierra de Aurora, Aurora, Illinois [thecubsfan]
1) Payaso Loco b Ricky Vidal
Payaso won by convinced Ricky he had a shoe untied and backsliding him
2) Pato 1, Pato 2, Pato 3 b Atómico Jr., Galáctico Kid, Penagono Jr.
Atomico Jr. got a three count on one of the ducks, but insisted it wasn’t three. Pentagono won with a Canadian Destroyer.
3) Furia Roja & Golden Dragón b Pat Monix & Storm Grayson
sort of tecnico/tecnico match. Golden Dragon won via DDT.
4) El Traidor, Fúnebre, Mr. Brisa DDQ Águila Oriental, Atómico, Ojo Blanco
Appeared as if the promoter had enough of the match after too much crowd brawling and called for the DDQ, but possible that was the intended finish of the rudo/rudo match.
5) Mojo Mcqueen, Skayde, Slayer b Billy Star, Golden Star, GPA
turned into a three fall match, with Skayde taking falls 1/3 (the third with Golden Star taping out for about 20 seconds before the referee thought to call it.)
6) Gringo Loco, Penta 0M, Skayde Jr. b Aeroboy, Eros, Tritón Gringo Loco, Penta 0M, Skayde Jr. vs Aeroboy, Eros, Tritón (posted by thecubsfan)
Penta fouled Aeroboy for the win. Skayde Jr took Aeroboy’s mask, and they agreed to a mask match on the 25th.

I did not know this existed. I would’ve missed it if Aeroboy hadn’t mentioned it on Twitter. I feel like there’s a point in there somewhere.

This was scheduled to be a 12:30 doors open/1:30pm start. It’s an indie lucha libre so I knew enough not to arrive a moment before 1:30 – but if I was actually smart, I wouldn’t have shown up until like 2. The show didn’t get going until nearly 2:30. We all sat in the hot dance hour for a hour, waiting and sweating and listening to very loud music and being told the wrestlers were finally on their way. Their was a Skayde seminar scheduled for 9am and I’m thinking it might have gone long. It also may just be against the luchador code to work a show before 2pm. They did seem to be telling the truth about the guys not being there, and the main eventers had to rush to set up the merch right after the show before they lost everyone.

After the hour wait, the opener was a comedy match with heel stalling and comedy. It was a tough sell. The crowd wasn’t all that reactive on the show, having stewed in the heat so long that they weren’t all that interested in reacting to a guy spinning around on the mat by himself. The first couple of matches were kids still trying to figure lucha libre and their trainers masquerading as clowns and ducks (and a Ninja duck) and not everything worked out well.

Pat Monix has a (his?) phone number on his trunks & Storm Grayson (ex-Rey Furia) has “SLUT” on his. You’d think that means they’re doing some sort of evil womanizing gimmick, but they mostly played it straight here and only a little stronger on the second show. There’s some context I’m totally missing. Mr. Brisa is a name you might have seen in the Arena Coliseo Guadalajara results. I’d seen the mask, but I only realized I’d never really seen him before when this large heavy man came out wearing it. I’m not sure exactly what the deal was with the finish, if the promoter had enough or if the referee had actually counted them out, but he hadn’t been counting any of them out.

The fifth match is the best match I didn’t have room to record this weekend. It was also one where it didn’t appear to be a three fall match until the moment the tecnicos were pinned in the first match without getting any sort of comeback. Golden Star, especially when he’s wearing the green Mexico jersey all weekend, could finish well in Super Crazy look alike competition. Triton had told people he was heading back to Guadalajara for a family issue, and maybe he still is, but I was surprised to see him still around at this point. The main event was leaning towards people having fun rather than a super serious match, but they still Penta get in a lot of his usual big spots and Triton pulling out the springboard moonsault. The garbage can shots were also great, because they sounded so huge while also probably not hurting nearly that much. Catching Pentagon get bowled over by one out of the corner of my camera was a highlight of the night.

I was surprised by the mask challenge: Aeroboy’s not losing his mask just as he’s starting to make US progress, but Skayde Jr. isn’t going to work well as Skayde Jr. without that mask. Maybe he just keeps wearing it anyway, but I feel like there’s out coming. I’ll probably be back on the 25th to see.

Crowd had to be around 80. I wonder if AAA points out shows like this to their wrestlers, ‘warning’ them this would be their fate if they left AAA like Penta. But then, Penta seemed pretty content being there, and maybe that’s a sign about how things were in AAA if he’s probably happier working in front of 80 instead of the thousands AAA drew that day in Juarez.

Penta murdering people, as usual

GALLI (SUN) 06/04/2017 Arena GALLI, Villa Park, Illinois [thecubsfan]
1) Galactic Kid b Atómico Jr., Pentagono Jr.
Galactic Kid win via DDT on Atomico Jr. Pentagono may have been hurt on a superplex/powerbomb spot right before the finish (finish looked improvised.)
2) Ojo Blanco & Traidor b Atómico & Golden Dragón
Traidor won with super DVD. Ojo Blanco announced as from LA.
3) Furia Roja © b Elliot Paul [GALLI JUNIOR]
Paul went for a belt shot but Roja speared him for the win.
4) Venus b Chico Suave, Zen, Draconis, Fly Star
Fly Star from Mexico was added to the match. Venus won with a sort of leg lariat.
5) Eros, Golden Star, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Fúnebre, Mr. Brisa, Slayer Eros, Golden Star, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Fúnebre, Mr. Brisa, Slayer (posted by thecubsfan)
Maya beat Slayer with a reverse tope.
6) Guerrerito & Imperio Azteca © b Pat Monix & Storm Grayson [GALLI TAG]
Monix & Grayson’s antics annoyed friend?/manager? Chico Suave. He attacked Grayson, blaming him for the loss, then betrayed Monix as well. They called Suave back to the ring, but were jumped and destroyed by Skayde Jr. & Gringo Loco.
7) Aeroboy & Mojo Mcqueen b Skayde & Skayde Jr. Aeroboy & Mojo Mcqueen vs Skayde & Skayde Jr. (posted by thecubsfan)
Skayde fouled Aeroboy, and Skayde Jr. pulled the trunks on the pin, then unmasked him again.
8) GPA b Barry Ryte © [GALLI CHAMP] Barry Ryte © vs GPA [GALLI CHAMP] (posted by thecubsfan)
3rd and last match. Ryte never seemed to get control of the match at any point without his manager interfering. After every trick in the book, GPA was too busy caning the manager handicufed to the ropes only for Ryte to foul him and drop him with his finisher for the title change.
9) Billy Star b Penta Zero M, Gringo Loco, Isaias Velazquez, Carnalito Penta Zero M vs Gringo Loco vs Billy Star vs Isaias Velazquez vs Vaquerito (posted by thecubsfan)
Isaias Velazquez and the debuting Carnalito (claimed to be from Mexicali) were additions. Elimination order: Carnalito, Velazquez, Gringo Loco and Penta 0M, with Billy Star pulling off the win. Post match set up Fenix/Penta vs Billy Star/TBA for September.

Again, I was smart enough to realize there was no way GALLI was going to start on time either and I should go eat dinner rather than hurry to the show. However, had I really been smart, I would’ve just taken the quick trip home and freshened up first. There was plenty of time, another 45 minute wait even after I took my time getting there, and lots of heat. (VIP ticket purchases got a giant fan pointed at them, us commoner did not.) I did get to literally sit in the shows at the farthest possible point away from the ring to be hard to find, so at least it was ideal conditions for me. This was closer to 200 (and at higher prices counting the VIP tickets), just about as much as their current set up is going to fit.

My hot take is Atomico Jr. is the best of the luchadors who are not old enough to get a learner’s permit, but he seemed to be quite angry about whatever went wrong on the finish. Ojo Blanco looked more like a Gato Blanco based on his gear and didn’t really impress. Venus is an exotico and the most popular person in the match. I have no idea how Fly Star ended up in Chicago and being added into a multiman match suggests he just kind of was there and they decided to give him a match. He only got to do a little. Guerrero Maya Jr. was surrounded by people looking for photos and merch when I got there – someone’s watching the YouTube streams or the TV shows on small networks, even if it doesn’t seem like it where we travel. He was the best guy in his match by far and it felt like he should’ve gotten more, but being able to sneak him onto a show with a The Crash guy was probably asking enough. (And then there was a long enough intermission that it felt like it could’ve been a seperate show.)

I expected the tag team title match to be better than it was and I was not as positive on the ex-Rey Furia as the last time I saw him, but this was also a match to set up an angle which might end up changing the character. Gringo Loco and Skayde Jr. looked awesome destroying them. Aeroboy & Skayde’s match here repeated the same ground as the match in Aurora, but I might have been the only person to pay for both so that’s probably the way to go. Maybe you can say the same for the GPA/Ryte match – I was hoping for a taste of what current indie style match GPA had done in Freelance, but this was more like an 80s territory title match with the heel getting nothing in that wasn’t set up by his manager doing something. It worked better for the crowd than it did for me. GPA losing the “no rematches” match and stopping in front of the set to look at the crowd made me wonder if he wasn’t going to be around GALLI as much for the immediate future. I dunno.

I was running out of space when the main event came around, so I waited until Penta to save a few minutes and start with the last guy. Carnalito came out after him. I’ve never seen Carnalito before, don’t have in my database. He was advertised as a debuting guy from Mexicali, but I had this very strange feeling I’d seen someone a lot like him before. I’ve racked my brain from the start of the alphabet to the very end, and I definitely can’t say who it is he reminds me. Carnalito was entertained for the short time he hung around in the match I hope we see him again someday. Isaias was good too, but it was really mostly Gringo, Penta and Billy in the end. Gringo must be going to whoever DJZ uses for haircuts, because the work he had going on looked amazing. Billy had a crazy headscissors that didn’t go right, but he some spectacular stuff go right. I think he was just as good in the afternoon match, but the crowd was more into here because it was him and Penta at the end. Penta deserves credit for putting over a guy that not a lot of people outside the Chicago lucha scene know of, and it definitely made me want to come back to see the tag match they set up.

Billy Star reminds me of seeing Samurai del Sol on these shows. He could do spectacular things, and you could knock him for his size or for not being clean in his moves all the time, but he stood out. Same with Billy Star. You may remember him as the Bandolero who showed up in the spectacular lucha match last year in AIW; AIW’s podcast later mentioned they wanted him back, but he wasn’t interested in the long drives to do it. He seems to be on just about every lucha show I end up going to, and I end up wondering what he far he could go if he wanted that. I’m not sure really how much I should be criticizing someone for lack of ambition given I’m writing a blog about lucha libre for free, but I think more highly of his prospects than mine. If he’s happy just doing what he’s doing, he should keep doing it, but it just feels like there’s something there being missed out on.

UG punishes Niebla Roja again, new CMLL heavyweight champ tonight?, next Crash lineup

classic UG

CMLL (MON) 06/05/2017 Arena Puebla [CultIcon, DeporPuebla, Efekto, El Popular]
1) Astro, Meyer, París b El Perverso, Guerrero Espacial, Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Astral, Espíritu Maligno, Magnus b Ares, El Malayo, Joker LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) King Jaguar, Olímpico, Virus b Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
King Jaguar replaced Toro Bill Jr.
4) Atlantis, Titán, Valiente b Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Niebla Roja DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 5  DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tencicos took 2/3. UG fouled Niebla Roja.

Today’s CMLL show has Volador Jr. returning to Arena Mexico (this time for sure), teaming with Valiente and Stuka against Cavernario, Negro Casas and Shocker. Shocker is replacing Mr. Niebla, because they forgot Niebla was pulled into the Guadalajara heavyweight championship match. Negro Casas is replacing Felino because I dunno, but it does put the tag team champions on the same team for the first time since October. The last tag team title program CMLL ran was Casas/Shocker versus Volador/Valiente, maybe they’re setting it up again.

The best match on the show might be another Panthers/Dinamita match, with Cuatrero, Sanson and Mascara 2000 being the Dinamita group. Titan/Ephesto is the lightning match that’ll probably end sadly. Fuego, Idol and Stigma take on Misterioso, Sagrado and Virus. There’s a minis match and a typical opening match. It’ll air on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 7:30pm.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara has the ten person heavyweight cibernetico, which they say will determine the champion, not the final two advancing to next week. So does CMLL’s Facebook. I hope they’re right, it’s a much better finish to a match that way. Rey Bucanero, Dragon Rojo, Kraneo, Gran Guerrero are in it but have no chance. Euforia, Pierroth and Mr. Niebla all feel like long shots (and I wish I could totally rule out Pierroth winning but it seems more plausible than the other two.) Rush, Marco Corleone and Terrible are the favorites. CMLL is booked as if Rush is actually the heavyweight champion so he should have the title, but CMLL titles rarely make total sense.

This lucha tag match at Powerbomb.TV‘s Break the Barrier show this Sunday is now Puma & Felino vs Guerrero Maya Jr. & Skayde. This is the match which was first announced as Puma & Tiger versus Traumas. This show is a special situation, they’re trying to get eyeballs on their VOD network by running a show with people you might see on that network, but I can not imagine ever running a show because it seems incredibly stressful for the payoff. I mean, I’m really happy people do it (including people who may not be all that happy with me at the moment), but lucha promoters are only slightly less insane than lucahdors. Every other match on the show seems to not have had this drama, it’s the lucha one causing the issue.

The situation with the Traumas hasn’t really been talked about much – I heard Adam Lash talk about it on We Don’t Know Wrestling last week and you should listen it to if you want to understand the sequence of events. I was asked about the Traumas when they were being brought up, and said I’d heard no more about the kidnapping/assault accusations Trauma II’s ex-girlfriend made since that it was reported. Only, I didn’t really know enough of what I was talking about, since Powerbomb.TV was later told other information which caused the Traumas to be replaced. I don’t know the information, just that there’s something backing up that original story which is getting people to back away from using Trauma II. If Trauma II did attack his ex-girlfriend, then I wouldn’t want him on my shows either and there’s a lot bigger problems here than wrestling. If he didn’t, he’s going to have to do something to prove his innocence to English speaking promoters if he wants to be get booked there going forward. Trauma II will probably be continued to be booked in Mexico whatever comes of this, which could a whole other ineffective digression in itself.

The Powerbomb.TV show is just a $15 ticket if you’re near Old Forge, Pennsylvania on Sunday. It’s also going to stream live, starting at 2pm, on’s network. is $10 month/$100 a year, but they also offer a 10 day trial where you’re not even asked about your billing info. They’d like you pay for the service and I think you should if you enjoy it, but any new user could sign up this week, and get the stream live on Sunday before deciding if they want to subscribe.

the Houston Press has a really good story on lucha libre, focusing on the local scene and the growing lucha shows in the US. It’s long but worth your time. There’s a lot of talk about the real injuries from lucha, including the mention of a Houston luchador death from a couple years ago that I don’t think I heard of before.

Wrestle-1’s Kohei Fujimura is headed to Mexico starting on June 9th. He did an interview talking about how he’d like to return to Japan as a masked man. No promotion is mentioned, but I guess we should be on the look out for a new name showing up in IWRG.

Black Boy & Flamita defeated Daga & Hijo del Pirata Morgan in Tijuana. Arkangel kept The Crash Junior championships over Latigo & Mirage.

RobViper has highlights of CMLL C3 02/24/15.


The Crash (FRI) 06/23/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Black Danger vs Oraculo
2) Rey Horus © vs Matt Sydal, Lio Rush, Sami Callihan [The Crash CRUISER]
3) Douglas James, Flip Gordon, Jack Evans vs Bestia 666, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mr. 450
4) Jeff Cobb & Keith Lee vs Brian Cage & Willie Mack
5) Penta Zero M & The King vs La Máscara & M-ximo
6) Daga vs Garza Jr., Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario [hair, cage]

The main event is billed as a tag match but only one person is losing their hair (so it’s a four way.) Nicho getting one last payday before his operation seems like the most likely option.

Maximo is “M-ximo” here. Interesting he changes his name and La Mascara has not. The fourth match has a lot of large men who like to do an occasional flip. Second match looks good, should probably not be the second match.

In theory, when Konnan said The Crash wanted to work out what they were going to do for video (TV, YouTube, iPPV, whatever) by next month, he meant by this show. In reality, I’m not really expecting anything it until it happens.