CMLL on 2017-08-04 

NGD in motion

Recapped: 08/04/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico

Drone, Fuego, Pegasso beat Disturbio, Sagrado, Virus
(15:34 [5:25, 4:20, 5:49], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Better than the usual opener but still a bit shaky. First few minutes of the match were very slow, not as if Virus was ding tricky mat work but as if they were dedicated to standing the corner of the ring while something else was happening elsewhere that was distracting the crowd. It got better with Virus’ nifty reversal into a mecedora, and they picked up the action a lot I the second and third fall. There was a lot more action than usual in those falls, but some shaky moments too. A lot of seemed to be around, Sagrado, though it didn’t seem like he was always that responsible for it. Drone had an up and down match too.

don’t try the Gedo clutch on Virus

El Gallito & Microman beat Mije & Perico Zakarías
(12:18, Gallito submits Mije + Microman headstand splash Zacarias, good, via  VideosOficialesCMLL)

Lots of fun, and better timing than the last match. They ended it just as they started to run out of steam, and did a lot before it that entertained the crowd. The dives were wild, and not well caught, but they all lived. They do keep adding in a few new bits and aren’t even sticking to a set match at this point, which is probably unnecessary but nice to see. Crowd loved them.

sentoncito de la muerte
Micro dives

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., The Panther (17:53 [2:07, 3:07, 12:39], 1/3, great, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Chalk up another exciting NGD match. They got the advantage of being able to all out for a big show – it was Brillo Cometa level match – and some técnicos who were going just as hard as them. The Dinamitas are improving in every match, with the monkey flip spot looking much better than last week, and they’re not losing track of playing off the crowd while getting in all their moves. Soberano, Panther and Rey Cometa looked just as spectacular, and they keep taking it higher and higher in the third fall. They might have gotten a little bit too long for the fans in the building, but I enjoyed it, and this was the right night to do an epic match with these guys. They came off as guys to watch in front of a big crowd.

everyone frog splash
Sanson Bomb

Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone beat Hechicero, Pierroth, Rush
(10:40 [5:29, 5:11], 1/2 DQ, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL )

What Happened: Diamante Azul and Rush feuded, and Rush unmasked Diamante Azul at the end. Diamante Azul demanded a singles match with Rush next week, and a mask versus hair match. Rush was non committal to either, though the singles match is obviously happening.

Review: Another Rush & Pierroth match, though the crowd was more into everything than usual. Hechicero and Angel de Oro were really trying. Rush was not really trying. Diamante Azul seemed invested but not particularly good – he came up way short on his tope in the first fall. I don’t particularly want to see another week of this.

Diamante Azul is inescapable

Carístico, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(11:54 [2:40, 3:06, 6:08], 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

What Happened: Gran Guerrero & Niebla Roja feuded, with Gran getting away with ripping of Niebla Roja’s mask in the second fall.

Review: [good] the better performance, both in work and results, that Niebla Roja really needed in this feud. It may be too late, the crowd really saw them as the third most interesting airing and the challenge for the Anniversary match didn’t get the reaction they’d want for that sort of thing. Maybe they’ll still get there, maybe something else (Azul/Rush) will get added in, but this feels not that big. Volador & Euforia worked well together and Carístico had a better match here than he’s had for the last week.

Gran Gerrero powerbomb
Euforia snaps off a backbreaker

Sam Adonis beat Blue Panther, hair vs hair
(15:15, 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

  1. Sam Adonis Michinoku Driver (2:14)
  2. Blue Panther nudo lagunero (0:44)
  3. Sam Adonis Michinoku Driver w/ropes (12:17)

What Happened:

After a ref bump, Adonis used the Michinoku Driver to put down Blue Panther, and grabbed the ropes to hold on outside of Tirantes view. Adonis bragged about his win and threatened to unmask and shave all the legends. There were no seconds for the match and no one was obviously set up as the next person to go after Adonis, though there was a lot of talk about the Gran Prix on the show.

Review: [good] So, I just wrote about how CMLL was at least aware not to have Tirantes referee important matches, and here’s Tirantes refereeing an important matches. He didn’t appear massively screw up anything, but he did make himself the center of the show at times. The crowd want to kill him as much as Sam Adonis and he took some spotlight away from what they were trying to do.

What they were trying to do did work. This was the best match they’ve had, with some of the stuff that looked a little rough in earlier matches coming off smooth here. The crowd was wildly behind Blue Panther and against Adonis, the kind of one sided reaction that’s unusual for both CMLL and professional wrestling right now. This might be Blue Panther’s last main event singles match for all we know, and he did it in a way where the crowd was into all of his near falls and comebacks. Sam’s adapted to this environment well. They keep running that Gran Prix promo between matches, and Adonis is going to go from being just another guy to fill out the team last year to probably the biggest star on the World team to the Arena Mexico fans. This is an unexpected success story.

Panther crash and burn

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-07-25

super angel de oro

Recapped: 07/29/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico

What happened:

Rey Bucanero attacked Angel de Oro as soon as he was safely down the stairs for the main. Angel de Oro was fist out, so he head to wait for help to show up. Marco was in a little bit more of a rush than Volador. Rey Bucanero sneaks off Angel de Oro’s mask between the first and second fall. Tirantes doesn’t notice but we can see that Angel de Oro has a lot of hair. Oro did appear to the back to get a new mask, and came just in time to get a clean house on the rudos. Terrible pins Marco, Angel de Oro wraps Terrible in a huracanrana to tie, but trying to do the same on Rey Bucanero led to a powerbomb for the rudo win. Bucanero challenged to a title match next week.

Sagrado unmasked Stigma for the finish of their match. It went nowhere.


Apocalipsis & Yago beat Fiero & Sangre Imperial  
(11:30 [5:25, 2:23, 3:42], 1/3, ok, via 

Good on the sliding scale of Tuesday openers, as they did enough to actually get the crowd into it. This was a more active match than usual and had some highlights; Fiero’s third fall run really impressed the announcers. Sangre Imperial didn’t screw anything up but still looks slow. Yago did fine here, but he looks a little heavier than last year. He has Pentagon Jr.’s body and is doing a ninja gimmick, that’s going to be a problem once people notice Yago.

a Yago highlight

Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Sangre Azteca beat Astral, Oro Jr., Star Jr.
(17:14 [6:15, 5:40, 5:19], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Slightly better than usual because they kept it moving better, but it still wasn’t interesting. Astral’s backlflip escape doesn’t seem to work out for him ever.

Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther beat Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
(12:49 [3:23, 4:26, 5:00] , 2/3 DQ, via

Fine enough Tuesday match, with action if nothing we don’t see three times a week. Misterioso has lured Distubrio into his fall choking ways, that’s not good for him. The Panthers looked OK.

Sagrado does a lot of things

Rey Cometa beat Virus in a lightning match
(7:54, frog splash, good, via

A higher end lightning match. They battled dramatically for a win rather than just going thru their sets of moves. It wasn’t revolutionary in what they did and they weren’t doing all their biggest spots, but they were clean in what they did and maybe the last few minutes feel important. I got a Virus ringpost armdrg and that’s a lot.

Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
(14:12 [3:59, 3:14, 6:59], 2/3, good, via 

The semimain was a delight for Dragon Lee not understanding the concept of a B-show and just throwing himself all over the place for Dragon Rojo dropkicks. Everyone was giivng a little bit more than expected for this one and it made it stand out for a Tuesday show, but Lee really came out looking like a star. Idol did a lot in the third fall but still seems a step slow and I’d rather see Drone in his spot. The rudos attempting to destroy the Dragon Lee banner after the fact was amusing. I really need Dragon Rojo to stop doing the top rope double stomp.

Dragon Lee gets Vangellys

Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr.  
(4:12 [1:45, 2:27], 1/2, ok, via 

A super quick, a length unbecoming of what should be ending the show. (They ended early than usual too, so it wasn’t a timing issue.) They did do a lot for the time they had and I guess that’s better than standing around for a while, but there are people in this match who might have no have even bothered putting on their gear. Bucanero’s post match promo building up Angel de Oro as tecnico was good and I suspect that’ll be the same in their title match.

Adonis vs Panther tonight, Gran Prix, AAA/Colombia, Elegido


Tonight begins a run with a lucha libre event in Mexico City about every other weekend

08/04: Adonis vs Panther
08/12: La Llave a la Gloria Final – ok, this may only be a big deal to me
08/26: TripleMania
09/01: Gran Prix
09/16: Anniversario

There’s room for more, and it doesn’t count shows like The Crash (running tonight in Mexicali) or The Crash or Lucha Memes or MDA (all of which are tougher to count when we can’t count on seeing them.) On paper, this is the weakest of all the major shows – an unproven foreigner against a legend in the final moments of his career. In reality, this might have as loud as any of the shows.

Sam Adonis and Blue Panther main event tonight in a hair versus hair match. It’s Adonis’ first time in a singles main event in this building, and it’s been five years since Blue Panther had this sort of match. The crowd were reacting loudly to Adonis even before CMLL really started going anywhere with his pro-US act, and today’s the test to see if those reactions will turn into ticket sales. There’s mixed success with these sorts of characters, but it feels like this going to be a big deal.

+LuchaTV has an interview with the Panthers and a promo from Sam Adonis. Adonis saying this match is a battle between an idol of Mexican wrestling and Blue Panther is a troll line I would be proud of. The Panther & Blue Panther Jr. being part of the interviews is interesting; it’d make more sense for CMLL if one of the kids were the ones to get the big win over Adonis than a luchador closer to the end of his career.

That is the thing though: as a person who watches wrestling a lot, I’m pretty safely assuming Adonis is winning tonight because there’s more left for a second match and there’s no reason for him to lose before the Gran Prix. (Panther getting the submission win in the lead up is a signal too.) If you’re a casual fan just going to see the match, I think you’re absolutely expecting the Mexican to triumph over the loud American, and I wonder how they’re all going to react if/when that doesn’t happen. Mexican fans like booing Adonis because he’s a fun non-threatening guy to boo, but he might be a little bit more threatening if he takes a legend’s hair. I don’t expect a bad scene, but I do wonder if this going to light up this issue even hotter. The only people who are going to be busier than beer vendors are going to be the security people.

This match up still could use some support, and I had been expecting some sort of title match or other big singles match. CMLL went with the micros instead, and that’s probably the right call for this audience. This show should draw a lot of people who don’t closely follow CMLL but just know a heroic Mexican is going to try to take down an evil American. Those people aren’t going to be all that aware of the history of a Niebla Roja or the Princesa Sugehit/Zeuxis feud. Something with more universal appeal, like four tiny people in wacky outfits in a lucha libre battle is going to get over a lot easier with them.

ClaroSports has an interview with Zacarias, who thanks Ultimo Guerrero for bringing back micro matches.

This is a good show even beyond the two matches, with CMLL doing their usual big show loading up of the card. Fuego, Pegasso, and Drone face Virus, Sagrado and Disturbio in an opener that’s usually about the fourth match on a Tuesday. The NGD face Rey Cometa, The Panther and Soberano, which should be as good as last week’s match. Marco Corleone, Angel de Oro and Diamante Azul face Pierroth, Rush and Hechicero, which sticks out as odd on the card; maybe they just needed to get people on, or maybe they’re setting something up. The semimain is the weekly Niebla Roja/Guerreros match, with Roja teaming with Volador & Caristico against his old rivals.

CultIcon also previews this show. It’ll air on ClaroSports and Facebook normal; this probably could be an iPPV but it’s a free show.

Matt Taven told a fan asking if he’s coming to ROH UK tour that he’ll actually be in CMLL at that time. I think that may be the end my theory of a Ultimo Guerrero/Matt Taven Anniversario match. For one, Taven may not be going to the UK but Ultimo Guerrero is on that tour so it’s not like Taven is going to feuding with him at least at the start. For another, Taven would have to be around 5-6 Fridays for the Anniversario show, longer than he’s been in the past and longer than CMLL usually keeps people. Three Fridays, ending with the Gran Prix, is more normal. The possibilities which aren’t “Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero” for the Anniversary show are getting whittled away.

At any rate, that UK tour starts two weeks from today, so Taven and perhaps the other Gran Prix foreigners may start in CMLL on at least by the 18th. The G1 final is on the 13th so the NJPW would be free by then, though probably pretty tired. The next NJPW tour starts on 09/06, only a few days after the Gran Prix, so I could see those guys being saved for last to get a rest.

I think AAA’s trip to Colombia this month is off. AAA announced two tours of Colombia back in April, part of their press conference to announce their partnership with TNA/Impact/GFW. AAA said they’d be going to Bogota on August 8, 9 and 10, and Medallin in October. The Bogota trip were to be free shows as part of an annual summer festival. The program for the festival is out, and AAA is not listed. (An indie lucha group seems to be running earlier in the festival instead.) It could just not be in the program, but it’s also a tour AAA hasn’t talked about in months. They promoted their similar shows in 2015 pretty strong. AAA may have quietly canceled it a while back, and I’m just catching up to it now. Three shows at a free festival is not going to make or break AAA, but these shows seemed to be part of larger plan: AAA’s not had success moving northward, so maybe they could advance the other way instead to build a fanbase in South America countries. This seems a set back in that direction, and it makes me think about how all the countries Vampiro was hopeful about AAA being in (and probably just listing off the top of his head) were in Europe, not Latin America.

Humo announced they’re bringing in Kongo Kong on 09/02.

EMW says their next AAA show in Tijuana is on September 8th.

AAA put up the latest Zona Ruda, with Psycho Clown as guest.

IWRG has a new website!

Segunda Caida reviews the Blue Panther/Sam Adonis lightning match.

TKD reviews this week’s Lucha Underground.

Kcidis draws the Reina de Reinas match.

Sagrado and Disturbio playing ping pong.

Fuego en el Ring has their latest podcast.

An interview with Satillo luchador Boy Rocker Jr., who lost his mask to King Rap last December.


AAA TV (MON) 09/04/2017 Palenque Inforum, Irapuato, Guanajuato
1) Big Mami vs Ayako HamadaFaby ApacheLa Hiedra
2) Dinastía, Lady Shani, Máscara de Bronce vs Goya Kong, Marty The Moth, Mini Psycho Clown
3) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
4) Argenis, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
5) Texano Jr. vs Hijo del Fantasma
6) Kevin Kross & Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Pagano

AAA posted this lineup the same day as they posted a Q&A with Vampiro saying AAA will change lineups whatever, so this is sort of whatever. It’s also a taping after TripleMania and a month away, so the chance of it all going down like this is nil. Ayako & Marty being around are the things to take from it; I’d expect at least Marty to be in the Copa TripleMania.

After this card got announced, some Elegido fans complained about him not being used on TV tapings; Vampiro told them Elegido is injured, while Elegido RT-ed the people complaining about him not being used. Elegido’s been booked most weekends (though not this one), and is advertised on a show before this taping. Meanwhile, the local promoter of this taping says Elegido is no longer in AAA. This has been more than you need to know about El Elegido.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-07-24 

Zeuxis & Sanely have a hammer/nail rivalry 

Recapped: 07/25/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla

What happened: 

Volador wears a Ingobernables jersey and works rudo in the main event, but it dropped after this match. Rush puled Caistico’s mask to win, and a post match argument set up a match between them.

In classic Tirantes form, Shockercito kicks out at 2.9 on a sunset flip and Tirantes counts three and then mocks Shockercito for not kicking out. This sets up a title match for next week.


I had three separate GIFs of Tirantes doing something dumb on this show but I’ll just use this bump

Guerrero Espacial & Perverso beat Arkalis & París
(12:48 [5:31, 3:56, 3:21], 2/3, ok, via

Opener had better action and more of it than usual. Tecnicos looked really good in the first fall and rudos did more than the usual time killing. Arkalis did a nice bit of grabbing Guerrero’s arm and rolling him over in the first fall that came off as really slick. Not the greatest flow and this is an anti destroyer pick, but most watchable locals only match in a while.

Shockercito  beat Pierrothito in a lightning match
(7:38, sunset flip, good, via

match was a really good match in their usual style up until the screwed up finish. They both are good singles wrestlers who don’t get to do it much here and have a lot of stuff they can only break out in matches like this. From the opening comedy to Shockcercito’s big dive, this really works. Maybe this might be skippable because of that messed up finish and the fact they’re probably be better next week.

La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis
(12:29 [6:32, 2:56, 3:01], 1/3, ok, via Video: 

An alright women’s match that’s probably generous to be called OK but I don’t care. Vaquerita looked cooler in her white shirt than her normal outfit, which might say she needs a new outfit. That’s all the deep insight I have on this one.

Shockercito ha a good tope

Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(14:19 [4:21, 2:27, 7:31], 2/3, ok, via

Effective well worked match with lots of topes. Rudos were finishing out their run strong, looking good as a team and rolling along the match well. The técnicos didn’t stand out but did well. This was the second match of the night where no one understood what was going on because Tirantes messed up a count.

Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas beat Dragón Lee, Mistico, Titán  
(9:51 [2:55, 1:26, 5:30], 1/3, ok, via

This was not too far off from the previous match, but shorter and a less to it. Enjoyable but a good version of the usual match and just not enough of it to recommend. Not a bad effort by any means. Negro Casas versus everyone is good, but we haven’t got to see him much Titan of late and they did well n in the third fall too.

Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia vs Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(5:59 [2:51, 3:08], 1/2, ok, via

What we learned here is heel Volador wears his hair in a dumb pony tail. This is important info. Volador can also do headscissors while wearing a baseball jersey. I can wear a baseball jersey but can not do a headscissors. They got to next week’s match fine but this wasn’t exactly promising big things in it. The post match promos were good at least.

Casas/Lee is headlining Homenaje a Dos Leyendas 2018

lucha TV preview for weekend of August 3rd

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This week’s Lucha Underground is titled Bloodlines. The preview mentions Captain Vazquez gets a visitor. Maybe we’ll learn more about her mysterious bloodlines, or Dario’s since the FBI is mentioned as meeting him this week.

AAA this weekend has Sexy Star’s return. I’m just as excited as you are. What’ll be interesting to see is if they leave Vampiro’s speech burying Taya in there. It really doesn’t serve any purpose if Taya’s not coming back, it probably just antagonizes the relationship more if it’s aired, and it’s only purpose left seem to be make Vampiro into more of a hero. Admittedly, making Vampiro seem like a hero seems to be the #1 priority of AAA TV at the moment, but maybe they can let that one slide as not to antagonize the situation? They’re still going to look dumb if Mundo just is annoyed enough not to show up up at TripleMania to lose his title, and Mundo knows he’ll be brought back even if he does so because they brought back Sexy Star after she did the same thing.

Edit: I got ahead of myself. AAA this week is still finishing up Puebla, with Johnny Mundo/Texano, Psycho/Pagano and Wagner/Mesias.

Puebla has Stuka vs Mephisto, the most “alright” title match possible.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22

Super Fly helpfully leaps into death

Recapped: 07/23/2017

All matches were taped at Poliforum, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas on 06/19/2017


Estrella Divina beat Pimpinela Escarlata
(5:30, moonsault, below average, 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno & Súper Fly beat Argenis & La Parka
(5:47, Super Fly frogsplash Argenis, ok, Lucha Libre AAA)

Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Kevin Kross beat Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Psycho Clown in a relevos increíbles match
(16:42, Kross pin Fantasma after Texano interference, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

Kross suplex of the taping

Even though the main event has been hyped as a trios match for the rest of the show, there’s a graphic for Psycho Clown vs Kevin Kross. The rudo team all come separate, but the tecnico team enter with Psycho Clown. The rudos beatdown the tecnicos for two forever, with Pagano getting his knee wrapped. It lasts long enough that fans actually boo. Comeback finally comes after eight minutes.

After about 15 minutes, Kross and Fantasma were left in. Texano walked down to ringside with his bullrope wrapped around his hand as if a loaded glove, and punches Fantasma in the face with it. Kross was surprised, but cover for the pin. Fantasma and Texano brawl into the crowd, really doing a lot more grabbing and walking than brawling as far as we can see. Everyone else wander out to fight for no real reason – Marty is there, mentioned by name at the end this week. Sangre Chicana shows up to music and punches Averno for attacking Pimpienla (almost falling down in the process.) Wagner hand Psycho hit each other with a chair, and end up wearing each other’s mask for the laugh. Texano ends up with Fantamsa’s mask. This goes on and on and on.

Averno berates the crowd like usual before his match, before they cut back stage where Niño Hamburguesa and Argenis have found Parka laying on the floor. He’s apparently been attacked, though the OGT are all in the ring so maybe they didn’t do it? (At the end of the show, in the usual highlight package, there’s a shot of Vampiro leaving the room and waiving at the camera no – but it comes off more like an outtake than some teaser, especially since Parka’s standing away fine at that point.) Security checks on Parka, then tries to stop Argenis from going to the ring by himself confusingly. The OGT throw the mic to Argenis, who decides to fight 1 on 3 instead. It works, even though he keeps alive by getting a move here and there. Eventually Super Fly smacks him with a clothesline, and all three OGT wrestlers, including the guy in the match, stomp on Argenis. Chessman does leave, and Super Fly and Averno double team Argenis by themselves, but then he helps out when they go outside.

Super Fly is the coolest

Argenis gets a comeback and a near fall (which the OGT hasn’t bothered with), but Chessman comes into break it up. No DQ. That is Parka’s cue to hobble in and clear house, but Chessman breaks up his pin with a chair. No DQ. Averno fouls Argenis and Super Fly adds a frog splash to that to win. OGT unmask Argenis post match.

Divina attacks Pimpi on the outside to lead into the opener. About 5 minutes in, Pimpinela climbs to the top rope and falls down to the mat without anyone touching her or the ropes. Divina quickly tries a moonsault (that mostly misses) to win.

Arturo Rivera interviews Psycho Clown backstage (right in front of the flags of Joaquin and Antonio) to start the show. Psycho Clown is totally different from usual, with them playing up the Psycho part of Psycho Clown while talking about this rivals. There’s lots of dramatic breathing. Arturo is taken aback by Psycho’s action.

Noti AAA has Ashley & Black Fury talking about participating in La Llave de la Gloria (and thanking the sponsors) as they promote the final tyrout in Ceyala.

Jonny Mundo & Kross have a phone conversation to establish that Mundo wants Kross to win and Kross is frustrating with Mundo ordering him around so much. It’s one of those phone conversations they haven’t exactly been told what the person is going to say and it’s awkward. (Kross: “Stop calling!” Mundo: “Okay, you better be.”) By the end of the show, Kross has stopped answering Mundo’s calls.


I didn’t GIF Pimpinela falling again because it was too sad but this wasn’t much better and I have no idea why any of it aired

Just a totally skippable episode. Nothing really happens outside of Kross and Mundo teasing problems and AAA being unable to remember which briefcase is supposed to be for the title shot.

The main event was average, hitting all the normal beats, just much longer than usual because everything else went so short. The length didn’t really help it, and it didn’t help the brawl afterwards, it felt like both were really stretched out. (And, despite all that it felt like Fantasma was ignored to give plenty of time to Pagano & Psycho Clown.) It was another thing where they tried to get five angles done at once and got none of them over. Kross actually tried to do things during the very long beatdown, which was ineffective but appreciated.

The tag match was not a tag match but definite a waste of time. Argenis vs the two rudos were fun while it lasted; this would be a decent feud if not for LA Parka and for it not going anywhere at all. Super Fly looked great as usual and Argenis’s comeback bits made this more watchable than the usual one sided long rudo beatdown. The florescent OGT color scheme doesn’t work at all with Chessman’s look but Averno’s talked him into wearing it anyway.

this old legend nearly fell down throwing a punch and I think AAA is going to put him in a ring next month because it’s impossible to learn things

It’s not really a surprise Divina/Pimpinela was a match I didn’t like – the people who decided have very different criteria for what is a good idea to put on TV and believe Pimpinela is so over that the quality of the match isn’t much good. The surprise is how amazingly not over Pimpinela was, especially in strong base of Nuevo Laredo. She got a reaction for the entrance and a bit of one for the rope walk, but the crowd was so dead for the rest of this. It made the middling action look even worse, and Pimpi’s fall looked sad. Divina didn’t impress in this one, and a lot of that was on Divina’s own offense.

Dragons vs Mariachis, La Llave a La Gloria, Super Astros

IWRG (WED) 08/02/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV]
1) Tentáculo b Celestial Boy
2) Climax Jr. & Shaolin b Atomic Star & Lunatic Xtreme
3) Kempo Jr., Monaguillo, Warrior Jr. b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Kanon
4) Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Miss Gaviota b Acero, Picudo Jr., Samot[lumberjack]
Samot replaced Demonio Infernal, making his first appearance here since 2011.
5) Anubis Black, Leo, Rafy, Teelo b Eterno, Harry The Sick, Ovett, Taylor Wolf
Anubis Black’s first match here since 2015.
6) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly b Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
Dinamic Dragons took falls 2/3 and asked for a Mexico State trios title match after the win

That sounds like a good title match. Harry The Sick (or sometimes Harry Sick) is a Chilean in Mexico like Taylor Wolf.

Record says there are 49 men and 8 women who are advancing to the finals of the La Llave a la Gloria tournament, including the latest winners. That’s the count of only the people who advanced thru the tryouts (and is probably 1 high, if Dalton Bragg is still retired.) That would mean people who’s only link to the tournament was appearing on TV La Llave a La Gloria matches, like standout Hijo del Vikingo, are not among those battling for a shot at TripleMania. In reality, I think Record has no more idea of what’s going on here than we do and no one’s really going to understand the concept at any point. I still think it’ll be ok, because there’s enough good people in here that someone good will win a week from Saturday.

El Son de Leon has a nice interview with local wrestler Shiva, who talks about advancing in La Llave a La Gloria competition in Celaya, thanks the various people who trained him, and mentioned Internacional Pantera (II) talking to him about potentially going to Japan. The only problem is no one named Shiva is listed as advancing in the La Llave a La Gloria tournament from Celaya. He could be the mystery person, he could be listed under a different name, or maybe they just meant advancing from the morning workout to the matches, I have no idea. The date of the interview is before the winners were actually announced.

Vampiro answered some question from AAA fans on Facebook. They did not talk about the Johnny Mundo situation, which is probably for the best.

One of the questions Vampiro is asked is about the always changing taping lineups. Vampiro explains there have been drastic internal changes in AAA, promoters still want matches months in advance, but matches may change because of injuries or people going/not going to tapings or other reasons. The new philosophy of the company is it’s neccessary to change the matches. They know some people aren’t happy, but the feel they’ve been changing the matches for the better. This is along the same lines Vampiro has explained the situation on other shows. There’s not an explanation of why they advertise matches at all, but it’s implied to be a demand of the local promoter.

Vampiro’s also asked where he sees AAA in three years. He sees AAA opening a path to Europe (Italy, Spain, Russia, France, England mentioned), exchanging talent with GFW, Lucha Underground continuing, and going to Japan for the Lucha World Cup. Those are some good goals but they’d need to start soon on building their name up in Europe if they’d want to be successful there in a couple years.

R de Rudo says it’s actually Keira’s REINA title CMLL is deciding, with the idea they took it away because she’s The Crash champion. That’s a different belt than CMLL is advertising on CMLL’s website or what JCR mentioned on Informa, but R de Rudo may still be correct. The key is no one else understands the difference between these stupid and pointless title belts so it’s quite possible neither does CMLL. For what it’s worth, the cibernetico they’re doing this Sunday is one where the final two advance (and get booed for not having a final because this concept gets rejected by the fans every single time and CMLL doesn’t care.)

Super Astros on 08/18 in Arena Naucalpan has announced so far
Hijo de Alebrije, Astrolux, Pegazus vs Kratoz, Kamikaze, Demonio Infernal
Candy White, Diva Salvaje, Cinthia Moreno, Taylor Wolf vs Muneca de Plata, Rossy Moreno, Cerebro Negro, Demasiado
Eterno, Epydemius, Bobby Zavala vs Dr. Karonte Jr., Demus 3:16, Fishman Jr.
Bandido, Emperador Azteca, Ciclon Ramirez Jr. vs Metaleon, Templario, Imposible

That last match could be a CMLL match if CMLL used all the people who went thru their training school.

DJZ has been officially cleared to return to the ring after his injury on a The Crash show fourth months ago.

+Lucha has an interview with Raul Mendoza in WWE. I suspect he’s going to get (another) name before they really start doing things with him.

Volador talks about winning the Universal tournament.

Alberto is part of a FULL show on 09/17 in Tlaxcala.

CultIcon reviews last night’s Lucha Underground and writes about Blue Panther vs Love Machine in CMLL and the AAA rematch.

2017 watch later catch up, part 4 of ∞

starts off crazy, just gets more so

Hey, these are back. This is out of order from the TV show watch order but who cares, it’ll flow better this way.

Arez vs Belial vs Impulso in a three way apuesta match
(WMC @ Arena San Juan on February 26, 29:41, good, via +LuchaTV)

  1. Impulso Fire Driver Belial (23:54)
  2. Belial top rope double stomp Arez (29:41)

I’m probably going to be the low person on this match because match logic is a big deal to me and outweighed the action. I was so frustrated by the opening half of the match. So much time spent with two guys teaming up, than turning one each other when it didn’t really make any sense. It’s like there’s a timer the luchadors can see but we can not in the three ways, and they have to switch alignment as soon as it hits 0:00. There’s no more logic than that and it’s frustrating to watch – even more so when it’s elimination and there’s no reason to attack each other (maybe steal pins, but that’s about it.) Still, this did eventually settle down into something more conventional before the first elimination and the damage and blood leading up to it made those big moves feel more dramatic. I really liked it when it came down to Arez and Belial battling to service the last few minutes, though I think they were both so tired that it looked sloppy on it’s own. This was an ambitious effort that didn’t quite work for me but I appreciated the effort. It is getting to the point where I should probably stop reviewing three way matches because my reviews of them aren’t useful if it’s the same complaints over and over again.

Belial tope
Arez suplex into a driver

Chicano & Veneno © vs Black Terry & Diablo Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
(IWRG on February 26, 24:07 [13:57, 3:58, 6:12], good, via 

This was a rare all technical match, with need team event really hinting at being rudos and wrestling a clean title match all the way thru. Veneno is totally serious (probably too serious, maybe don’t need him bleeding off headbutts back and forth with Terry) and Chicano looked good; I was picking this one out more for the other two but they were their equal. There’s not as many highs and lows in this match, Chicano is somehow pinned after doing a move in the third fall, and the finish is typically bad IWRG stuff, but the action leading up that point a good use of time.

not sure we needed exactly this
a cool set up to a suplex leads to Chicano being pinned

LA Park & Rey Escorpión vs Daga & Penta Zero M
(AULL/Klandestino on March 1, 31:09 [8:23, 10:16, 12:30], good, via 

There’s a great bit of hilarity on insisting on doing a very traditional three falls match where you’re throwing entire rows of chairs at each other. This match seems to suffer for it by the end, as the match runs out of stream as the third fall goes along and probably would’ve been better without it. It’s got a usual LA Park screwy finish too. It’s great early on, with Penta get thrashed for quite a while and impressively so. He knows how to sell for those kind of brawls and set up the next big spot, something Daga is definitely not as good at (but obviously is going to get a lot of practice at as long as he’s in the indie matches.) LA Park worked hard, and Rey Escorpión is the right kind of partner for a match like this. There’s a great match here with a little editing.

it was one of these kind of matches
this Daga combo is cool and completely unrepresentative of the rest of the match

Sky Man vs Saturno [MUCHAS LUCHAS CHAMP]
(Cara Lucha @ Arena San Juan on March 3, 20:46, excellent, via

Esto es lucha libre – Saturno shows up here, absolutely kills it, and then disappears into the ether for the rest of the year. Saturno’s been well regarded by lightly seen by virtue of the Guadalajara indies being barely visible, but this caliber of match should’ve gotten him and booked anywhere. It’s the kind of match Sky Man and Rayo Star were trying to have when feuding, but Saturno’s just a bit better than them. Just a bit insane too; I don’t know if he knew this was his best shot to make a name for himself, but he’s clearly throwing everything into it from the opening moment, trying to kill Sky Man as much as he’s trying to kill himself. Sky Man meets Saturno on his level, trying to fight fire with fire. The match breaking down into a scrum of punches and gouging on the mat feels completely earned, and that hatred seems to flesh out the match a little bit more than just seeing the spots. Sky Man comes out the winner but it felt like he survived a war rather than conclusively won. This one of the matches of the year to watch.

Saturno throwing it all in this tope
Sky Man surviving

Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © vs Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
(IWRG on March 12, 24:33 [9:46, 7:54, 6:53], great, via 

I’m just going basically by date on my list, couldn’t remember why I wasn’t doing that before, and then realized it’s because I try to avoid seeing two similar matches in one recap. That’s the case here, as this is not that far off from the other Terry/Diablo tag title match. Those two play very slight rudos here, but it’s still a heavily technical match done in a similar style. This one had the big advantage of no Danny Casas, and I think the kids stood out well here. Diablo Jr. looks really smooth and has some great dropkicks, and Black Dragon impressed with his agility. I’m giving this one a better grade but there’s not a lot that separates the two, they’re both really solid action for an extended period of time, with a bit more drama in this one.

an explosive elbow drop
I didn’t mean for this match to be just Black Dragon GIFs but that’s the way it turned out

Imposible vs Emperador Azteca
(IWRG on April 23, 9:41, good, via 

This was much more of a crazy brawl than I would’ve thought, and one that gets better as it goes along (Azteca has a rough start.) I wanted more stuff in ring, but they were entertaining grabbing anything they could to throw at each other. This is a much more Emperador match than usual – no chair sit spot Imposible for one – and he shows some good life. The crowd is really loud for the finish, but it looked messed up, with Emperador clearly kicking out before three on a move that didn’t seem like the thing that would end a match. Emperador made challenges that made sense only if he won too, so it was probably not the designed finished.

no tope
yes tope con giro


Lucha Underground 3×29: The Hunger Inside



Fenix beat Pindar in a Cueto Cup quarterfinal (5:17, top rope double stomp, good)

Prince Puma beat Dante Fox in a Cueto Cup quarterfinal (10:55, 630 splash, excellent)

Johnny Mundo beat Dragon Azteca Jr. (8:53, Fin de Mundo, great)


don’t mess with Dante Fox

(This is another episode way way more GIFs than I could use; you can see them all here.)

The big news was at the end. Johnny Mundo defeated Dragon Azteca cleanly, then went to break his neck with a chair. Rey Mysterio made the save. Mysterio and Azteca got Mundo to back off and left, but Mundo snuck back – he noticed Rey’s family was sitting in the front row. Mundo and Dominic got into a war of words and Mundo called security on Rey’s son. Rey ran back out, and right into an ambush by the rest of Worldwide Underground. (They’d been banned from the match, but now the match was definitely over.) Worldwide Underground held Rey for a belt shot – but Johnny hit Dominic, with his buddies making Rey watch. Their match is now three episodes away.

Taya, Jack and PJ accepted that ban from the match because they were offered a spot in a 3v3 Azteca Medallion match next week by Dario Cueto. I’m not sure what or if Dario promised the same to other people, but there was a noticeable lack of in match interference on the show.

That meant Fenix didn’t have to deal with Marty or Mariposa in his match, and he was able to win and move to the semifinals with Melissa cheering him on. Pindar put up a competitive fight but ended up being no match. As Striker pointed out, Fenix was able to get a little bit of revenge for the Reptile Tribe winning the trios titles. We did catch the Moth later, stalking Melissa in the parking lot again as she and Fenix flirted. Marty’s decided he could break those two off if he could just take Fenix’s mask away.

There was similarly no interference in the Puma/Fox match, an incredible battle that had the crowd cheering for both men who currently posses questionable ethics. Dante Fox lost but was so over by the end that the crowd didn’t much care for Killshot attacking Dante after the fact for some revenge. Killshot confirmed it wasn’t over between them.

Dante Fox finds the most dangerous way to fall

Fenix and Prince Puma will face in the semifinals (in two episodes). They leave these matches for next week:

  • Pentagon Dark vs Texano in a Cueto Cup semifinal
  • Mil Muertes vs Jeremiah Crane in a Cueto Cup semifinal
  • PJ Black, Jack Evans, Taya vs TBA for 3 Aztec Medallions

The show featured a couple more plot check-ins. Matanza appears to be physically healthy as his fall thru the upper level, but Dario has some questions about his mental health. Dario feels his brother hunger for revenge on Rey led him to be weak minded enough to be thwarted again by Mysterio, and more failure will cause the Gods to cast Matanza aside or even destroy him.

Meanwhile, Captain Vazquez has noticed Councilman Delgado is very much dead and knows Cage did it, but she’s more focused on getting the gauntlet than the man himself. Officer Reyes/Cortez Castro/Veneno wants no part of that idea, saying no man alive could get that gauntlet off of Cage right now. Vazquez seemed to have a plan as she looked at her half locket.


watch where Dante’s head ends up

This was one of the best Lucha Underground episodes ever. Prince Puma versus Dante Fox might be the best non-stipulation match they’ve had on this show; I’m only not saying it absolute because I may have forgotten something, but it’s way up there.

The Lucha Underground taping situation makes the show unlike any other wrestling show. They don’t have the luxury of hearing criticism and adjusting their course, because these shows were taped months (over a year now!) before anyone saw them. This is one of those episodes that felt strangely like it broke thru the time barrier, as if they in 2016 traveled forward in time to 2017, heard people complaining about all the interference in recent episodes, and went back to 2016 to very specifically fix it. In reality, I think they must do a good bit of self-criticism (and maybe listening to some Temple regulars) to figure this stuff out. A big part of why this episode worked was that neccesary correction, that purposeful decision to keep the run-ins out of the matches. They still got the same stuff over – and the Mundo/Mysterio build was better for the way they had done it instead of Worldwide Underground just costing someone a match – but they did it while getting out of the way of the matches.

This was a great week to get out of the way of the matches! Pindar/Fenix was good and Pindar/Fenix was clearly the third best match on the show. I had a little bit higher hopes for it and it didn’t breakout Pindar (that went to someone else!) but got to show a lot more than he had leading into this point. He was finally a luchador who could do some nice stuff, not just Reptile Goon #2, and that’s important progress. He also meshed as well with Fenix as expected, and the double knee drop at the end looked devastating. There’s definitely more there if they go back to it, and I hope they do.

just screaming at this point

Johnny Mundo/Dragon Azteca was even more successful. It hearkened back to those first season Mundo vs X showcase matches, where someone new-ish would push Mundo for about 8 minutes in a fun match before he could put them down. Mundo’s more aggressive as a rudo and controlled a lot of the first few minutes, but Azteca pulled off super move after super move in rallying back. I don’t know that they ever quite got the point where Mundo ever felt truly in trouble, but Azteca showed more in this match than any one prior to it. The post match angle with Dominic was really well done; they probably didn’t need to spend more time on building that Rey/Mundo match, but this was the most effective thing they’ve done.

One of the most memorable moments of this episode was one of the few things which didn’t go well. The Temple crowd was so loud all show long, but so quiet when Killshot came out and dropped their guy Dante Fox. Because Dante really was the Lucha Underground Temple’s guy at that point. It’s tough to credit this as a breakout performance when Fox is breaking out every single match he’s in of late, but he looked every bit as good as Prince Puma in this match. And Prince Puma looked every bit as good anyone in the world this match. This was incredible fast and fluid and dangerous and impressive all at once, a match that you have to see to believe. It was just under 11 minutes, flew by, and packed in twice as much stuff in that time. Fox was so unbelievably good that he turned both the fans and the announcers away from the intended story (Dark Puma’s darkness is making him impossible to beat) into just rooting for Dante Fox to pull off the impossible upset. They really shouldn’t have been surprised as the reaction to Killshot, the last few moments of this match was Dante Fox heroically to keep going in the face of incredible punishment. Maybe the really great thing is they didn’t give Dante Fox the win quite yet, because a big part of the future should be Dante finally getting these sorts of wins.

The other vignettes were fine. The comedy around Jack being unable to talk with his mouth wired show was good (if a little hurt because he actually had his mouth wired shut.) I’m glad they finally got some plots touched on. The downbeat note is the reveal of three Medallions being given out next week. Nothing says the season is starting to wind down than Medallions being quickly handed in time to have a Gift of the Gods match as part of Ultima Lucha 3. The reality is there’s still plenty of episodes left, but I don’t even want to think about the end after a show like this.

just incredible

great match roundup, week of 2017-07-15

Dante Fox over the post

stuff I watched in this “week”

The Crash isn’t listed below but I did update the MOTYC so it’s thrown in there.

This is generally another week where there’s no reason to watch the Monday/Tuesday shows and yet I did for some reason. I think I probably underrated the Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero match but it’s nothing I’m going to think about the end of the year so it doesn’t much matter.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Prince Puma vs PJ Black [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-19 2016-05-14
good Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana © vs Aerostar, Drago, Raptor for the AAA World Trios Championship AAA Nuevo Laredo Junio 19 2017 El Poder del Norte vs Drago, Aerostar y Raptor (posted by Luis Ordonez) AAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
good Dante Fox vs Son of Havoc [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-19 2016-05-14
good Blue Panther Jr. & The Panther vs Puma & Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Blue Panther vs Sam Adonis in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Copa Natalia Vazquez LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Marty Martinez vs Texano Jr. AAA Nuevo Laredo Junio 19 2017 Texano vs Marty The Moth (posted by Luis Ordonez) AAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
ok Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa vs Lady Shani & Venum for the AAA World Mixed Tag Team Championship AAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
ok Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © vs Hernandez & Máscara de Bronce for the AAA World Tag Team ChampionshipAAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
ok Black Tiger & Meyer vs Fuerza Chicana & Rey ApocalipsisLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Astro, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito vs Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia vs Mistico, Pierroth, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Último Guerrero © vs Niebla Roja for the NWA World Middleweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Angelito & Fantasy vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Robin vs Akuma, Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Fuego, Oro Jr., Pegasso vs Disturbio, Nitro, Sangre AztecaDisturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 18.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 18.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Johnny Idol vs Vangellys in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Rey Cometa, Titán, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Hechicero, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Mistico vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
below average Astral, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar, Sangre Azteca LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
not rated Cage vs Pindar [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-19 2016-05-14