great match roundup, week of 2017-11-04

Templario

That was an unhealthy amount of CMLL. It would’ve been too much if it was a good week of CMLL. It was definitely not; most everything was boring. Two of the three matches I actually liked, I had seen live. (And I’m not sure what I meant to rate that women’s match anyway.)

This was the week where I was in Mexico, so I added all the matches I saw in Mexico to the ratings database – though I’m not sure you’ll ever see them since I don’t have them showing up any place but the wrestler pages. And the MOTYC list, I guess. Maybe I should fix that someday.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
good Rugido & Solaris vs Bronco González Jr. & Chicano AAA Worldwide en Metepec Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA)Solaris y Rugido VS Chicano y Bronco Gonzales Jr (posted by ENTRE SEGUNDA Y TERCERA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-04 2017-10-20
good Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas in a lightning match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-06 2017-11-06
good Magia Blanca & Robin vs Akuma & Templario LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-10 2017-11-10
good La Jarochita, Lady Maravilla, Marcela vs Amapola, La Metálica, Reyna Isis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-10 2017-11-10

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa vs La Hiedra & Villano III Jr. AAA Worldwide en Metepec Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Niño Hamburguesa y Big Mami VS La Hiedra y Villano III Jr (posted by ENTRE SEGUNDA Y TERCERA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-04 2017-10-20
ok Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzeloth vs Ángel Mortal Jr., Australian Suicide, Tiger Boy AAA Worldwide en Metepec Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Hijo del Vikingo, Lanzelot y Angelical VS Australian Suicide, Angel Mortal Jr y Tiger Boy (posted by ENTRE SEGUNDA Y TERCERA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-04 2017-10-20
ok Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, La Parka vs Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown AAA Worldwide en Metepec Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) La Parka, Cuervo y Scoria VS Murder Clown, Dave The Clown y Monsther Clown (posted by ENTRE SEGUNDA Y TERCERA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-04 2017-10-20
ok Oro Jr. & Príncipe Diamante vs Akuma & Espíritu NegroDOMINGO FAMILIAR FUNCION DE DIA DE MUERTOS 5 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-05 2017-11-05
ok La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany DOMINGO FAMILIAR FUNCION DE DIA DE MUERTOS 5 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-05 2017-11-05
ok Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado DOMINGO FAMILIAR FUNCION DE DIA DE MUERTOS 5 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-05 2017-11-05
ok Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Luciferno DOMINGO FAMILIAR FUNCION DE DIA DE MUERTOS 5 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-05 2017-11-05
ok Carístico, Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr. vs Ephesto, Kráneo, Mephisto DOMINGO FAMILIAR FUNCION DE DIA DE MUERTOS 5 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-05 2017-11-05
ok Lestat, Rey Samuray, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Fuerza Chicana, Perverso, Policeman LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-06 2017-11-06
ok Drone, Johnny Idol, Stigma vs El Malayo, Olímpico, VirusLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-06 2017-11-06
ok Mistico, Niebla Roja, Valiente vs Kráneo, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-06 2017-11-06
ok Eléctrico, Stukita, Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-07 2017-11-07
ok Esfinge vs Disturbio in a lightning match Disturbio Cmll vs Esfinge. Match Relámpago (posted by Princesa Dorada) MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-07 2017-11-07
ok Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, La Metálica, Tiffany MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-07 2017-11-07
ok Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-07 2017-11-07
ok Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-07 2017-11-07
ok Esfinge, Oro Jr., Pegasso vs Hijo del Signo, Nitro, RazielLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-10 2017-11-10
ok Niebla Roja vs Stuka Jr. in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-10 2017-11-10
ok Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Puma, Sam Adonis, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-10 2017-11-10
ok Marco Corleone, Mistico, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Sansón, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 10 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-10 2017-11-10
below average El Mesías vs PaganoJoe Lider [death match] El Mesías vs Pagano vs Joe Lider [death match] (posted by thecubsfan) Pagano vs el Mesías vs Joe Líder en lucha extrema en Héroes Inmortales XI (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Pagano vs Mesias vs Joe Lider (LUCHA EXTREMA) (posted by Juan Zárate) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-04 2017-10-01
below average Bengala & Sonic vs Artillero & Grako MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-07 2017-11-07
not rated La Vaquerita, Lady Maravilla, Sanely vs La Comandante, Reyna Isis, Tiffany LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-06 2017-11-06
watch later Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible © vs Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly for the Mexico State Tag Team Championship  (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Campeonato de Tríos del Estado de México: Los Mariachis vs Dinamic Dragons (posted by IWRG tv) Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible © vs Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly [EDM TRIOS] (posted by thecubsfan) Mariachis Locos vs Dinamic Dragons, Campeonato de Tríos del Estado de México (posted by +LuchaTV) IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-11-06 2017-11-05

The Crash/Konnan, UG beats Rush in Puebla, UG faces Rush today

the finish

CMLL (MON) 12/04/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, CulticonWrestling With GIFs]
1) Fuerza Chicana & Guerrero Espacial b Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Cancerbero, El Perverso, Raziel b Espíritu Maligno, Millenium, Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Espiritu Maligno attacked his partners after communication problems during the match, and gave the rudos a free win. He seems to be feuding with Tigre Rojo in particular.
3) Cuatrero, Hechicero, Sansón b Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys b Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Sam Adonis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6) Último Guerrero © b Rush [NWA MIDDLELA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14th defense. UG took falls 1/3, the last via ref bump, foul, and fast count.

UG/Rush was fine but really short. The finish was totally screwy, and I’d expect about the same today.

The rest of today’s card includes a trio of foreigners – Adonis, Idol and Okumura – facing the current CMLL World Trios champions – Valiente, Volador and Mistico. That would be a really odd title match, but it does have a story with Idol turning heel, and the hook of the Mexican champions defending the world titles against people from other parts of the world. The national trios champs, NGD, face Niebla Roja, Titan and Stuka in the fourth match.

The fourth wheel of the Dinamtias, Universo 2000 Jr., teams with Tiger & Disturbio against Fuego, Pegasso and Stigma. Starman, Oro Jr. and Fiero face Nitro, Raziel and Hijo del Signo in more build to the not yet announced 12/25 cage match. Fiero being in this program means he’s gotten booked a lot more often of late. CMLL’s preview listed Sangre Imperial & Sensei against Espanto & Coyote as the opener, but the actual lineup page reveals Retro is in for Sensei. The show is airs at 7:30pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Guadalajara has had a lot changes, mostly because CMLL moved some people to Arena Mexico. Whatever’s up with Kraneo is still going on, because he was also pulled from the main event tonight, but this building is pretty good at announcing changes and announced these. (It may just be in part of how it works; by now, they know who’s actually on six hour bus ride to Guadalajara and who’s not making it.)

The new main event is Caristico, Marco, Soberano vs Shocker, Mr. Niebla, Pierroth. The big match is Puma defending the Occidente Light Heavyweight title against Esfinge, where the local Esfinge is a heavy favorite. Esfinge previously beat Puma to win the Copa Junior back in early 2016, and Puma beat Esfinge in Arena Coliseo in 2015 when they were doing the heavy single match format.

Misterioso says he’s not going to be in a cage match on 12/25 – he’s going to be on vacation instead.

CMLL Informa will have Atlantis this week, so we should get some idea about his return date.

Today’s Wrestling Observer Radio reports that, in addition to the Arolucha issue, the Crash lost trust in Konnan after he had a meeting with Dorian Roldan. Impact set up the meeting, to try to get the promotions working together probably so it would be easier for Impact to work with both of them, but the story is Konnan didn’t tell The Crash about it and they found out second hand. Dorian, thru Lucha Libre FMV, has been actively threatening lawsuits against Rey Fenix & Penta 0M and the people who create artwork for them, and there’s been no sign of that ceasing lately. It doesn’t look like they made any progress about getting all along.

LA Park posted on Facebook that he heard the people of The Crash held a vote about letting Konnan stay or cutting him, and “everyone” but Rey Mysterio wanted Konnan to go. It’s unclear who would be in “everyone”. It’s unclear if LA Park is just telling a story here; for a long time he didn’t want any part of The Crash, then suddenly started showing up on shows the last month or so, and that’s probably when this situation started.

The usual thing that happens in this situation is Mount Konnan erupts, and we all watch the explosion from a safe distance, dodging the fall out. This time, Konnan’s not said much. He’s replied to a few people on Twitter, pointing them to his podcast for more info. That’ll be out Thursday. He’s mostly looking forward, telling people he’ll work with them again. Maybe Konnan isn’t burning a bridge because he thinks it might still be repaired, maybe he’s being careful not to do anything that might endanger getting the guys he wants on the Arolucha show.

Garza Jr., Damian 666 and Bestia 666 put out video statements saying they were sticking with The Crash even with Konnan leaving. There’s a statement attributed to Penta noting he and Fenix came to The Crash on their own (not via Konnan), and will continue to be independent. I can’t find where that originally comes from, but that matches what I’ve heard privately. Rey Mysterio is the other key person to hear from on this. I don’t see a comment from him, but there were photos of him with the new The Crash Heavyweight championship belt – a belt with his mask design alluded to in the center and photos of Perro Aguayo Jr. and Eddie Guerrero, so a title intended for him all along.

Everyone’s being very clear that the The Crash WrestleCon show is still on – the promotion moved fast there to make sure that didn’t change, it’s part of their US plans – and the The Crash show at the ExpoLucha show is also still on. None of the wrestlers are being pulled from AroLucha on Sunday, and none of the The Crash lineups are changing.

At this point, no one seems to have to choose between Konnan and The Crash. What we’ve learned about The Crash over the last two months is they can run more than a dozen shows in Tijuana a year, but they’re not strong enough in the rest of the country yet to run anything close to full time. There’s going to be plenty of dates for people to work both (and plenty more places), if both sides allow them.

AAA announced Blizzard/World of Warcraft will be a sponsor on their 12/09 charity show in Mexico City. In addition, they’ll use GoPro cameras a part of a sponsor deal, and Epson will be contributing as well.

A local paper says AAA sold out their TV taping in Arena Xalapa. The promotion was saying they filled the building and it looked pretty close to that in photos.

Hijo del Fantasma is tired of feuding with Texano Jr. (Which is a reason against dragging this out until TripleMania.)

Black Terry Jr. has a video of his trip to Monterrey to see NGX.

Microman Fever translates a El Dandy story.

Violento Jack is heading to New Jersey’s GCW on 01/20/18.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

MasPorMas talks to the UNAM professor who founded the “Academia Mexicana de Altos Estudios en Lucha Libre.”

Lineups

ELITE (FRI) 12/08/2017 Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautilan, Estado de México
1) Dr. Karonte & El Rielero (Jalisco) vs Ciclón Ramírez Jr. & Huracán Ramírez Jr. and Emperador Azteca & Fly Warrior and Metaleón & Mr. Leo
2) Bandido & Xtreme Tiger vs El Cerrajero & Heddi Karoaui
3) Dragón Dorado & Octagón vs Fuerza Guerrera & Fuerza Negra
4) Garza Jr. & Sharly Rockstar vs ? & Zorro
5) Blue Demon Jr. & Golden Magic vs Mr. Electro & Trauma II and Cibernético & Hijo De Dos Caras

One of these matches may be part of their Copa Junior tournament, but it’s tough tell based on how the poster is put together. Maybe the four way tag match.

Elite mixes in “young” people in the main event by putting in the same indie guys as always. It’s at least a try. Dos & Golden seemed to getting attention in the prior version of this group.

I’d assume Trauma I is the back up mystery guy if whoever it’s supposed to be doesn’t show up.

Still no sign of the TV deal. I’m sure it’s happening really soon.

CMLL (MON) 12/11/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & París vs Fuerza Chicana & Policeman
2) Lestat & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Hijo del Signo & King Jaguar
3) Astral, Asturiano, Pegasso vs Cancerbero, Espíritu Maligno, Raziel
4) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr. vs Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis
5) Mistico vs Negro CasasVolador Jr.MephistoDragón LeeRey BucaneroNiebla RojaGran GuerreroValienteFelino [Reyes del Aire VIP]

That’s a weird rudo side for a high flying cibernetico, but they’re going for bigger names becuase it’s a VIP show.

Adonis/Idol/Okumura appears to be a regular rudo trio (at least this week.) Espiritu Maligno has returned to the rudo side after 9 months on the tecnico side.

CMLL has occasionally held Reyes del Air ciberneticos in Puebla:

2009/10/12: Volador Jr. (over Mephisto)
2012/10/15: Valiente (over Dragon Rojo jr.)
2014/08/04: Rey Escorpion (over Mascara Dorada)

new lucha videos for the weekend of December 1st, 2017

I got IWRG working again for a small amount of money. I also taped the Cancun show, which started earlier than they had announced (so I might have missed half of it.)

Lucha Libre Cancun: 2017-12-01 – Mega/YouTube
taped 2017-12-01 @ Salón Colonos, Cancún, Quintana Roo
1) Caballero Galáctico, Guardián, Lunatico vs Corsario Jr., Invencible Jr., Tizoc
2) Súper Muñeco & Súper Ratón vs Súper Pinocho & Supersonico

AAA on Televisa: 2017-12-02
taped 2017-11-19 @ Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
0) Lady Shani vs Venus for the mask  – Mega/YouTube

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-12-02
taped 2017-11-28 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara – Mega/YouTube
1) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Metálica, Reyna Isis
2) Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Titán vs Puma, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
3) Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-12-02
taped 2017-11-24 @ Arena México – Mega
1) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
2) Dragón Lee & Puma vs Forastero & The Panther [Copa Dinastia] and in a battle royal match
3) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Pierroth vs Felino, Puma, Tiger [Copa Dinastia] and in a tournament semifinal match
4) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther [Copa Dinastia] and in a tournament semifinal match
5) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Dragón Lee, Mistico, Pierroth [Copa Dinastia] and in a tournament final match

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-12-02
taped 2017-11-26 @ Arena Naucalpan – Mega/YouTube
1) Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. © vs Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
2) Mr. Electro, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Fandango, Villano IV, Villano V Jr.

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-12-04
taped 2017-12-03 @ Arena Naucalpan – Mega/YouTube
1) Diablo Jr., Dinamic Black, Emperador Azteca vs Centvrión, Fly Warrior, Séptimo Rayo
2) Sharly Rockstar, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Rokambole Jr., Villano IV, Villano V Jr.
3) Spector & Teelo vs Black Dragón & Rayan and Liderk & Mike in a relevos suicidas match
4) Mr. Electro vs Ray Mendoza Jr. for the hair

 

2017 watch later catch up, part 8 of ∞

this was much better than the rest of his match.

Súper Astro Jr. vs Rey HorusLaredo KidGolden MagicFlamitaJack EvansÚltimo NinjaXtreme Tiger
(Tortas Super Astros @ Arena Naucalpan on 05/24, 11:29, good, via
Videoblog Tortas Súper Astro)

They finally got Golden Magic cheered in Arena Naucalpan. They just needed to give the crowd someone else to be angry about. This entire match was built to big Super Astro Jr. spots and he had a rough night. I appreciate the effort of trying to make a new guy a star, but I’m not sure it would’ve worked regardless: the fans didn’t see Super Astro Jr. at the level as the other guys at the start and his botches in key moments just confirmed their beliefs. His tope was awesome, and he got thrown around well, but he stuck out in this match in a bad way and it would’ve been an easy recommendation without him. It’s a really fun match if you’re looking for multiman action, and the dive train is among the best I’ve seen this year. Production is goofy; they have two cameras, but aren’t big on switching back and forth on them for key moments. Rey Horuz looked like a standout (and his split mask looked cool), Último Ninja looked good, and I wish we’d got more of them and less of Astro.

Ultimo Ninja did some cool things, part 1
part 2

Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Terry 2000 vs El Bandido, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Sádico
(AULL @ Arena Lopez Mateos on 06/13, 21:59 over 3 falls, good, via
hector godfreyhector godfrey)

A strong match in front of a very loud crowd. Sadico looked like one of the fastest and cleanest wrestlers around in this match. Bandido, Golden Magic and Emperador Azteca had some moments too. The finishing spot was good, it was just missing a little more drama before the end. And maybe it would’ve been cooler if the crowd dive was on the camera side.

Sadico makes use of the ramp

Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Freelance beat Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera, Pantera I
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 06/04, 12:05, good, via
thecubsfan)

This match doesn’t seem much early, as anything good is canceled out by some communication issues. It gets better when Cerebro Negro decides to start punching the heck of tecnicos, then just goes wild in the second fall and end of the third. This is much more a random really hot TV match than a must see year end match. Still, it’s not particularly long and goes crazy for a few moments, an easy use of time. It’s also the year contribution to my (probably misguided) belief that Hijo del Pantera is at least top 50 guy in Mexico who we only see about six times a year.

required Freelance moonsault into the crowd GIF
cameraman had zero idea this was coming

Demus 3:16 vs Impulso
(RCH @ Arena Naucalpan on 06/02, 11:18, good, via
+LuchaTV)

Some matches don’t really have much of a story. This match definitely has a story! Impulso’s plan is to find high places and leap off them onto Demus any chance he gets. Demus has spent the last many years fighting tiny guys who attempt similar things, so sometimes that works out well for Impulso and sometimes it works out very poorly. The match ends perfectly in that story. Not working so perfectly is how obvious Impulso is at blading. He’s actually sort of hilarious transparent at getting his blade ready to cut, then cutting this forehead while the chair is on him. You’re going to see it unless you put both hands over your eyes. Usually there’s a cut away there. This is a pretty fun match while it lasted. There’s a post match brawl to set up a match that isn’t happening (this is RCH’s last show!), so the finish in the match is coming maybe a little sooner than you’d expect.

Impulso into the crowd
Impulso to the floor

Keira & Lady Maravilla vs Alas de Acero & Iron Kid
(Lucha Memes @ Coliseo Coacalco on 05/21, 12:15, great, via
+LuchaTV)

What Happened:

This is an elimination match, which I forgot until the match kept going, and maybe people in the match also forgot until it kept going.

Review: Keyra and Lady Maravilla take a break from destroying each to beat up two of the Kamikazes, who give it back as much as they get. This is the usual Mexican Strong Style match with two women who aren’t doing a lot of flying but more than willing to make it up with suplexes and hard shots. This gets uncomfortable, not just in men slapping women sense, but in the no one seemingly taking much care of each other at times. Iron Kid drops Maravilla really awkwardly, then she gets two bad shots from Alas de Acero near the end, but she gets in shots earlier. The lack of sharpness plays into the out of control feeling of the match, as out of control as some of the dives felt. The match is dinged a little by the initial finish coming out of nowhere, and the second elimination feeling tacked on and unnecessary. Still, unless men versus women violence makes it tough for you to enjoy a match, this is one definitely worth your time.

all kinds of spins
Keyra armdrag
the good part about watching lucha matches much later is you can be certain no one died during them

Yoruba vs Lunatik FlyArezFlyer for the KDR Universal Championship
(KDR @ Gimnasio Hercules on 05/27, 14:23 seen, good, via
Estrellas del Ring)

What Happened:

There’s a lot of versions of this match. The longest version is the Estrellas del Ring one, but they do condense the match at points.

Review:

There’s a minute or two stretch here where Arez just takes over the match: meets a dive with a chair, finishes that guy off violently, brings the other two back in and takes them out for a while. He’s just missing his own dive from being all you need to see off Arez. He looks dominant when he’s meant to be and on another level than everyone else here. Of course, that means it’s about it for him in a multiman elimination match. The match loses something without him and with it being slowed down for the final two. Even with dead parts being cut out, it feels like it drags a bit to get before the finish. This one does come thru much better in video than it would on GIFs, with a lot of hard chops early on and near the end. Crowd reacts better to the finish than I thought they would.

they don’t call him “Sane Ideas Fly”
Arez spike

Kasai in NGX & DTU, The Crash in Ecatepec, Mr. Electro loses (again)

photo by Black Terry Jr.

NGX (SAT) 12/02/2017 Gimnasio Nuevo León Unido, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)MedioTiempo]
1) Epydemius b DemenzíaGnostico
Gnostico replaced Alberto Dos Rios
2) Core & Psicótico b Sick Boy & Skam 13 and Dash & Lord Byron
3) Cachorro Zapata & Caifan b Caifan II & Hechicero
Caifan II replaced Difunto, and Hechicero was the surprise lucahdor
4) Ricky Marvin b Último NinjaXtreme Tiger
Ultimo Ninja replaced Funny Boy. Xtreme Tiger hurt a leg.
5) Joe Lider & Jun Kasai b Pagano & Violento Jack

NGX’s 15th anniversary show. Semimains sounds like it went well and the main event had the hardcore stuff you’d expect. There’s two gyms/basketball courts in this building. The Crash ran the bigger one, they ran the smaller one. It didn’t seem like a much bigger turnout than in the other venue, but it is a nicer venue.

The Crash (SUN) 12/03/2017 Centro Civico Nueva Aragon, Ecatepec, Estado de México [+LuchaTV]
1) Black Metal, Látigo, Tiago b Astrolux, Kalibus, Torito Negro
Calibus replaced Pegasuz.
2) Keyra © b Lacey Lane [The Crash Women]
fourth defense.
3) Astrolux, Jack Evans, M-ximo b Bestia 666, Luke Hawx, Mr. 450
Fenix & Flamita appeared earlier in the show (after the opener?) saying Flamita was injured and unable to wrestle, but they would give Astrolux a big chance by taking his spot. Astrolux’s team won, but he was attacked by the Rebelion Amarilla after the match.
4) Daga & Rey Fénix b Skayde & Solar I
Skayde replaced Black Terry (injury.) Fenix challenged Solar and Daga challenged Skayde to title matches.
5) LA Park, Penta 0M, Rey Mysterio Jr. b Carlito, Garza Jr., La Máscara

I guess this is the last show of the previous era, but I’m not sure Konnan was actually at any of the shows this week, and they had already started to tell people he was out. I don’t expect big changes, but everything has kind of taken my a surprise. At any rate, this run of shows went out strong – Ecatpec looked as full as it is on an AAA taping, which a loud crowd.

Rey Mysterio Jr.’s status going forward is one of the bigger question marks. He and Konnan have been close for his entire career, and would seem to stick with Konnan if he’s forced to choose, but who knows at this point. He’s The Crash’s heavyweight champion, and it looks like people with The Crash are subtly making it clear he’s still with them, so maybe people will be allowed to work both. Rey’s next scheduled The Crash show is the 12/15 show in Teziutlan, Puebla.

I’d assume Flamita’s injury is why he missed shows all week, but at least they gave it an explanation this time.

DTU (SUN) 12/03/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [+LuchaTV, DTU, R de Rudo]
1) Adrenalina Fly & Kevin b Angelito Mágico & Lokilo and Billy Gamer & Toto Gamer and Devit Rodríguez & Hard Boy
Lokillo’s team took the pin.
2) Corsario Negro Jr. b Fly StarBlack Fire
no Dr. Polux.
3) Jimmy b MoriaDrastik BoyMickey MidasCobre
Jimmy pinned Moria, asked for a shot at his DTU Alto Impacto title.
4) Paranoiko & Tóxico b Mr. Cóndor & Rocky Santana and Makabre & Último Gladiador
Paranoiko pinned Mr. Condor.
5) Ovett b KastigadorHormigaExoticoVengadorÁngel o DemonioCamuflajeHalloweenJuniorSúper Mega
People from each side were added every 30 seconds. Cerebro Negro helped out the X-Law team and Ovett got the pin. Draztick Boy & Crazy Boy were also involved. Crazy Boy challenged Ernesto Ocampo
6) Violento Jack b Jimmy Lloyd
7) Crazy King & Jun Kasai b Cíclope & Miedo Extremo
said to be a good extreme match. Kasai pinned Ciclope.

Seemed like they drew a good crowd for this show. Kasai goes 2-0 on the weekend.

The X-LAW/DTU stuff seems to have nothing going on for a while, then they jump a head, then nothing going on again. I would probably fail in trying to identify which people are on the X-LAW side and which people are on the DTU side. There should be more on DTU’s upcoming year end show in Arena Afiicon

IWRG (SUN) 12/03/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatoers]
55th Anniversary of Promoting in Mexico State
1) Alas de Acero b Demonio InfernalSkandaLunatic XtremeKanon
Kanon replaced Atomic Star.
2) La Maligna, Lili Dark, Ludark Shaitan b Dulce Luna, Lady Cat, Mary Caporal
La Maligna was the surprise luchadora. Mary Caporal replaced Diosa Atenea.
3) Alas de Acero, Dr. Cerebro, El Bandido b Aramis, Freelance, Imposible
Alas de Acero & Bandido replaced Toxin & Fandango (who had declared IWRG was his new home after his debut last week.) Cerebro pinned Imposible and wants a shot at the Rey del Ring title.
4) Centvrión, Fly Warrior, Séptimo Rayo b Diablo Jr., Dinamic Black, Emperador Azteca
Fulgor I ran into help the rest of Indy Nation. Another masked man joined them for the victory celebration, but attacked Indy Nation instead, then revealed himself to be Bandido. He said he was putting together a trio of himself, Ciclon Ramriez, and Emperador Azteca (ELITE?) to stop Indy Nation.
5) Sharly Rockstar, Trauma I, Trauma II b Rokambole Jr., Villano IV, Villano V Jr. Highlights Rocambole Jr Villano V Jr y Villano IV vs Hermanos Trauma y Charly Rockstar (posted by thegladiatores.com)
This Rokamble Jr. is the former Kaving. Trauma/Sharlie won in straight falls when Sharly snuck in a foul on Villano V.
6) Black Dragón & Rayan L Spector & Teelo and Liderk & Mike [relevos suicidas]
The Comando Elite and the Turtles didn’t want to fight their usual partners. Mike & Liderk escaped the match first, then Spector & Teelo. Black Dragon & Rayan will now face off in a mask match on 12/17.
7) Ray Mendoza Jr. DQ Mr. Electro [hair]
Electro was DQ for accidentally hitting the referee with a chair shot. Sharlie Rockstar argued in favor of his brother to no success.

This is the 7th straight hair match loss for Mr. Electro. I probably should’ve noticed that pattern. I definitely have noticed the pattern of bad IWRG finishes; no one just pins or submits someone without the referee getting involved. Rockstar getting involved could point at the next match; it doesn’t really make sense for Ray Mendoza Jr. to come out of retirement just to win. I guess it doesn’t have to make sense.

Black Dragon is the overwhelming favorite against Rayan. The Indy Nation vs Bandido’s Bandits feud would have me very interested if things were followed up here. (Where did the Capos disappear too?)

Ultimo Guerrero makes the 14th defense of the NWA Middleweight Championship against Rush tonight in Arena Puebla. Neither man appears to fit the definition of a middleweight, but it does not matter. This is their 13th singles match; Ultimo Guerrero leads 9-3, though Rush won the last one earlier this year in Puebla. (It’s the 6th one they’ve had in Puebla alone.) UG & Rush have had some good matches, and are usually a better mix when they work a brawl and with Rush as the rudo. A title match feels like it could lean more to UG’s usual checklist. Rush is a wildcard, which might be a good thing this time. A title change is unlikely. Rush & UG splitting their two matches this week seems very likely.

The semimain has Marco, Valiente and Caristico against Euforia, Gran Guerrero and Sam Adonis in the semimain. Titan teams up with Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja to face Bucanero, Terrible, and Vangellys. The best undercard match look to be Cuatrero, Sanson and Hechicero facing Esfinge, Fuego & Stigma in the third match. Cancerbero & Raziel are with the locals in the early matches, teaming with Perverso, MIllenium and Tigre Rojo Jr. The Centella Rojas face Fuerza Chicana & Guerrero Espacial in the opener. The show will stream at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel as always.

Sam Adonis is off Sunday’s Arena Mexico card, because he’s working in California. Dragon Lee & Mistico are also working that same show in California, but haven’t been removed. Sensei must be out hurt, because he’s off Tuesday (Sensei in), and Saturday (Magia Blanca in).

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

FULL announced a benefit show in Tlaxcala on 01/06.

A Santo exhibition has opened in Puebla. It runs thru January.

The battle rap show is said to have sold out Arena Mexico.

Konnan’s out at the Crash

Konnan’s run with The Crash has ended. He’s no longer with the Tijuana based promotion after being added as the creative lead and onscreen authority figure just over a year ago. The Crash had been telling people who work for them that Konnan was out for days, but it’s unclear if they told Konnan until now. Konnan’s social media account (which is sometimes managed by others) had still been pushing The Crash on social media thru last night’s show in Ecatepec, though he was not seen in front of the crowd on the Tijuana show. The Crash is not running again until the 15th, so they decided to officially announce the change.

The press release isn’t up in Spanish on Facebook, and 411 Mania had the English version.

The Crash Lucha Libre brand is known for the way we treat people and value each and every single person that works in this company. Bettering the economical and habitual needs. Showing the support for each element and giving opportunity to new talent. In this way, the value and professionalism shown between each of its partners. Not being able to comply to the Crash Lucha Libre code of ethic, is something that we do not tolerate in this company. With that being said, We now announce that Carlos Santiago Espada “Konnan”, will no longer be working with The Crash. We thank him for the time and support and wish him the best in his future endeavors. We will be announcing the dates for 2018 with the best matches and our debut in the United States.

The Crash’s Code of Ethic is a new one on me, but it’s a kinder way of saying Konnan screwed up with them something major.

Konnan’s wrestling history is dotted with bad breakups with promotions, but seemed to be on good terms with The Crash. I was there just a few weeks ago in Naucalpan, and he seemed to be happy with what was going on. Usually, it’s Konnan getting annoyed with the promotion he’s working with and starting the break up, but I just say him in Nacualpan about three weeks ago and he seemed to be happy with The Crash. This time, it was the promotion who decided to break up with him. The story I’ve heard is The Crash were caught off guard by Konnan’s new job announcement as the lead writer of AroLucha. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reported Konnan informed Impact Wrestling of this new job, and that group gave their approval. The Crash said is saying Konnan didn’t actually tell them of this new job, they found out around the same time everyone did, and they’re not ok with it. Very much not ok with it, apparently.

Arolucha is trying to start a US lucha promotion the same time The Crash is trying the same, and Konnan working for Arolucha could be seen as working against The Crash. Neither are really sure bets to make it in a crowded US market, but The Crash has at least built up some name value and would seem like the better bet of the two if you had to choose. It’s surprising Konnan would choose Arolucha over the Crash, but it’s possible he just thought he could do both and never got to make that choice.

This leaves a lot of questions going forward. The most pressing is Arolucha debut on Sunday; if The Crash had a problem with Konnan working that show, will they have a problem with luchadors who work that show? Will everyone just be allowed to work wherever, or will there be some split of “Konnan’s guys” and “The Crash’s guys” that’ll cause both promotions to change going forward? Start up wrestling promotions have a low rate of success as it is and “Arolucha” doesn’t seem like something worth going to war over, but there’s obviously strong feeling here.

This also seems to change affects The Crash’s relationship with other companies. Konnan was the point person for the relationship with Impact, though only Garza Jr. seems to be working both places at the moment. Does this actually help the CMLL relationship, since it seemed like it was more of a Nacho de la O deal and Konnan’s not beloved by the people of Arena Mexico? Does it even help the AAA/Crash relationship? AAA’s taking their anger out on Fenix and Penta, but it always comes off like they’re really angry at Konnan and those just are the guys they can get to easier. (Or, with no other big promotion to go to in Mexico, does Konnan and AAA mend fences themselves? Or does he just stay out of Mexico for the moment and focus on Arolucha?)

That Arolucha taping is Sunday. I’d suspect we’ll get a Konnan podcast or three before then.

1992 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

I added 1992 lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio (and an increasing amount from elsewhere), to the luchadb database over the last week. They’re integrated the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. We’re six weeks away.

year events
1985 150
1986 154
1987 152
1988 176
1989 189
1990 169
1991 175
1992 183

I’m really surprised the number is up, because there were problems by the end of the year. The total amount of lineups must be up, but the actual number of visual cards seemed really down. There seems to be a seasonal reductions at the end of the year, but the Thursday Arena Olimpico Laguna card stops getting posted in the lineup (and there’s rarely an article on those), and Sunday shows disappear. I’ve started 1993 already and it’s even more dim.

posters per year
1990: 114
1991: 81
1992: 64
1993: 14

Maybe I’ll probably will find stumble on a few more, but hopefully they’ll have write ups. These are always going to be missing events, but it’s going to be missing more events.

Maybe the overall total doesn’t go down because the paper is more consistently covering a wider area. The El Siglo de Torreon paper now contains local mini papers for Durango and for Saltillo among others. There’s often a weekly article for a show for Arena Oberos or another local building, though the cards aren’t listed complete.

1992 is the first year of AAA, which runs often in the area (including that Arena Olimpico Laguna lineup) and shockingly seems to have the steadiest shows of the bunch. Some shows with CMLL talent completely fall apart with people no showing, and they’re looked at having a bad year.

Curiously, the Andrade brothers – Brillante, Diamante and Zafiro – are wrestling in their new masked gimmicks prior to AAA’s existence. Unless Pena was planning on bringing them in long in advance, it comes off that they changed characters on their own to give themselves a fresh look in the area. Their father, El Moro, had changed to being the masked Mr. Atlantic sometime late in his career seemingly for those reasons. He passes away during this calendar year.

There’s not a lot of local news. The future Ultimo Guerrero & Luiciferno are tag team champions most of the year. They’re among the top local acts even at this point, and being put in matches with Mysterio & Psicosis says that people thought they were good workers at that point. There’s an alternative universe where Flanagan & Super Punck they get swept into AAA (with new gimmicks, of course) and their careers look play out very differently.

There’s disappointingly little coverage of the start of AAA. There’s not many wire stories, and it seems to catch the wrestling scene in this part of the world by some surprise. Maybe it’s because their guys had been more going to El Toreo; there’s a big story about their short lived TV deal over one, two parts.An article on a new promotion (AAA) forming mostly focuses on where this leaves the national titles. Antonio Pena’s name is not mentioned, but Juan Jose Torres Landa is mentioned as the president of the DF Lucha Commission. A long delay in wire stories turning up in Torreon leads Pena’s name to not come up until a story explaining the plan of the promotion in June. and one about Konnan’s upcoming last show until weeks after it happens. It doesn’t become a bigger locally story until Blue Panther jumps to AAA. Tickets for the first AAA show in Torreon proper sell out two days in advance of the show, though the costs of bringing in national luchadors is going up (plans instead of buses!) and other locations have to compete with local wrestlers.

Earlier, fans, and commission are angry when a 06/13 show advertised with Octagon & Fuerza has both of them no show. This looks like people being brought in thru EMLL who jumped to AAA, but it’s not clear now and it definitely wasn’t made clear to the fans. Televisa is blamed. There’s also issues with people working 3 shows on the same day.

A running story revolves around lucha union head Manny Guzman, who appears to be traveling around the country of Mexico to rally support. He visits Torreon at least once, maybe twice, meeting their local union to try and convince them to stay with him. AAA forms it’s own union which saps Guzman of money and power. The original leaders are said tobe, Secretary General Fuerza Guerrera, Secretary Interior Ice Killer, Treasury is El Magnate (haha) Records is Rambo, Honor y Justice is Halcon, General Coordinator Hijo del Diablo, Women Vicky Caranaza, Techinical Solar I, Public Relations Octagon, International Relations Dory Dixon, Work Jusiticero, Union advisor Tio Sam, and Minis & Micros Goliath. Manny Guzman says the AAA union is not valid and legitimate. The luchadors who left his union will have to pay 10 million pesos to come back into their union – except the stars will have to be 25 million. Guzman says the benefits of being in the union including 2 millions pesos per year for retirement and company support. To my knowledge, this does not happen.

Monclova luchdaor Jose Issac Cortes Martinez, 24, passed away during a match. Cortes passed away in the ring at Deportivo Mario Ayala in Monclova. Cause of death was not immediately known; he was struck in chest and suddenly fell dead in the ring. He was wrestling Baby Martinez (Jose Zaragoza Perez Tutuvieta, 22 years), who was detained by the police until they were sure it wasn’t responsible.

Local Issues

General History

Luchador of the Week type short bios/interviews

 

AAA in Xalapa, CMLL weekend results

AAA TV (SAT) 12/02/2017 Arena Xalapa, Xalapa, Veracruz [AAA]
1) Eslabón Perdido, Poseidón, Rey Infierno ?? Kid Lobo, Samuray, Vengador Jr.
local/dark match
2) Ángel Mortal Jr., Chicano, Pardux b Angelikal, Fetiche, Hijo Del Vikingo
Fetiche (who was a rudo up to this point anyway) betrayed his tecnicos teammates, with Mr. Aguila and Khan del Mal in attacking them. It appears the Perros del Mal are taking him on, with the rudo team possibly joining as well.
3) Argenis, Estrella Divina, Faby Apache, Lady Shani b Australian Suicide, Goya Kong, Hahastary, Mamba
Moved down a spot. Hahastary replaced Ayako Hamada (in Japan), Goya Kong was the mystery (?) women on their side, and Argenis replaced Lanzeloth. Tecnicos took the win despite Faby and Shani having problems. Faby was antagonistic to Shani with their title match coming up (at some point.)
4) Big Mami b Villano III Jr.Bengala
scheduled as a Villano 3 Jr. & La Hiedra vs Big Mami & Nino Hamburugesa, but Nino Hamburugesa was missing (!?!) and Bengala changed it (???) to a three way. Villano III & Bengala fought by themslves and Big Mami got the Splash win.
5) Histeria & Psicosis b Dave The Clown & La Parka
Dave & Parka did not get along
6) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown © b Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria [AAA TAG]
2nd defense, 1st on TV. Dave & Parka both got involved. Clowns won but were attacked and unmasked by the Vipers, who declared themselves the next challengers.
7) Dr. Wagner Jr., Hijo del Fantasma, Psycho Clown DQ Hernandez, Rey Escorpión, Texano Jr.
Rudos were DQed (attacking Tirantes, excessive violence), and took out security before Vampiro got them to stop.

Not exactly sure when this will air. It’s the next taping after the current Juarez one finishes next week, but they have a break coming up soon. Normal order has it 12/16 and 12/23, but they might go into the usual 3 weeks best of programming on 12/16 (& 12/23 & 12/30) instead.

Faby going ruda is probably for the best for the match up with Shani, though it’s going to be hard to get a Mexico City crowd to root against her.

AAA’s been careful about not adding anyone new to Los Perros del Mal after Perro passed away, likely feeling there’d be some backlash to doing that. Some of the advantage to bringing back an Ayako Hamada or Mr. Aguila is adding to that group with already endorsed members. They could always have Kahn create an offshoot group, so the new guys are adjacent to but not actually part of Perros del Mal. If they actually make them part of the group, I wonder if there will be some backlash, or if people have moved or if all of this so under the radar that no one will really care.

AAA also knew for weeks that Ayako was in Japan and wouldn’t be making this show, but didn’t feel the need to announce a change that wouldn’t have hurt ticket sales at all.

CMLL (SAT) 12/02/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Sangre Imperial & Sensei b Apocalipsis & El Coyote
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Fiero, Magnus, Robin b Camorra, Inquisidor, Maquiavelo
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Hijo del Signo, Metálico, Nitro b Oro Jr., Star Jr., Starman
Rudos took 1/3, using the ropes to win. Starman & Signo continued to feud.
4) Eléctrico © b Pequeño Nitro [MEX LIGHT]
Fourth defense. Big Nitro and Robin were seconds, and Nitro interfered enough that he was thrown out of the math. Electrico took 2/3 to win.
5) Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr., Titán b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. DQ Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Mephisto faked a foul from Volador to draw the DQ.

No title change is no big surprise. Main event is actually going somewhere. Might not be the only one.

CMLL (SUN) 12/03/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Magia Blanca & Retro b Cholo & Yago
Yago replaced Coyote. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Fiero, Pegasso, Starman DQ Cancerbero, Raziel, Templario
Starman won fall 1 over Raziel, Starman was DQed for unmasking Raziel in the second, rudos were DQed for unmasking Fiero. More unmasking followed between the six luchadors who had been feuding.
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther
Straight falls, with Johnny Idol turning on his team again.
4) Niebla Roja, Titán, Valiente b Okumura, Pólvora, Shocker
Shocker replaced Dragon Rojo Jr. on Tuesday. Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
tecnicos took 1/3.

Johnny Idol is going to be turning on his teams for a while.

CMLL’s not added anyone new to the (not yet announced) 12/25 Infierno en el Ring match, it’s still those same six guys. They’ve done six man cage matches before, but with much bigger names.

The rap battle seems like it drew pretty well, and it was a good idea to move this show for a night. Arena Coliseo might have a longer future if CMLL can rent out their other arena for events.

The Crash in Ecatepec also looks like it did very well, maybe a sell out. I’ll go over those results, DTU, IWRG and NGX tomorrow.

Mexican channel Space announced they’ll be debuting a new lucha libre drama, “La Ultima Caida“. It’ll be a 10 episode series, focusing on fathers and sons in wrestling. No air date is mentioned. It’ll be taped in Mexico City and Queretaro. One of the stars is Arnulfo Reyes, who was the henchman Checo in the Blue Demon series.

AAA has this week’s TV show up.

Lucha Sorpresa has some recent lucha recommendations.

DoradaFan has highlights of 11/14 & 11/17 CMLL.

Segunda Caida reviews Solar & Super Astro vs Black Terry & Virus.

Lineups

CMLL (SAT) 12/09/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Sonic vs Apocalipsis & Grako
2) Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei vs Artillero, Inquisidor, Metálico
3) Guapito & Microman vs Mije & Perico Zakarías
4) Drone, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Luciferno, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
6) Volador Jr. vs Mephisto

Don’t do the middle rope spot, Mephisto. Third time is not the charm, CMLL can’t afford a broken Volador.

Microstars are back, at the site of the one rudo win.

CMLL (SUN) 12/10/2017 Arena México
1) Astral & Magnus vs Camorra & Cholo
2) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela vs Amapola, La Comandante, Tiffany
3) Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther vs Puma, Tiger, Vangellys
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Stuka Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Sam Adonis, Último Guerrero
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Negro Casas

Look, Johnny Idol is a tecnico again. Caristico & Mistico are enemies on Friday, friends on Sunday.

CMLL (SUN) 12/10/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Eclipse Jr. vs Paymon
2) Último Ángel vs Frenético
3) El Alteño, Omar Brunetti, Star Black vs Frezzer, Maléfico, Nautilius
4) Gran Kenut & León Blanco © vs Príncipe Kisho & Terremoto King Jr. [PC TAG]
5) Tritón vs Mr. TruenoMágicoExterminadorExplosivoSádicoBlack SugarEl ChakalEl DivinoDifunto [OCCIDENTE MIDDLE, #1 Contenders]

I’ve been so successful in phasing out the Sunday Guadalajara stuff that no one noticed or cared, but it’s back because so is Triton. He’d said all along he’d be back in Mexico in December, it is December, e is back in Mexico. No idea if he’s staying, and it doesn’t look like he’s on the main CMLL roster yet.

The other thing here is there’s an Occidente Middleweight title match coming up right after I pointed out how the Occidente titles never get defended. (Joker’s the middleweight champ, he’s a rudo, so Triton is the most logical challenger.)

It’s my second favorite moment of things that are maybe not actually responses to something I’ve written but sure feel like it, right behind AAA posting a video on Twitch saying they were coming back to that service “really soon”. I’m sure they have that intention, but a lucha promotion (or other lucha service) saying “really soon” just triggers me at this point. I’ve been told “really soon” by so many people about so many things – “we’re getting TV really soon”, “we’re going to make it easy to get merchandise really soon”, “it’s all going to be on a video service to make it easy to watch really soon” – and none of it happens. The only thing that happens is some time goes by and I hear “really soon” again. I’m sure it’s never meant as a lie, but it feels like 85% of “really soon” lines turn out to be just that sort of false promise, and one that no one involved in telling seems as disappointed by telling. It’s great AAA wants to be back on Twitch, but give me a date and give me a explanation if doesn’t happen, don’t waste any one’s time with a “really soon” that can’t be trusted.

The Crash (FRI) 12/15/2017 Arena Neza
1) Sky Man & Torito Negro vs Pegazus & Tromba
2) Aramis, Astrolux, Black Boy vs Látigo, Tiago, Toxin
3) Keyra © vs Christi JaynesLacey LaneMima Shimoda [The Crash WOMEN]
4) Flamita & Séptimo Dragón vs El Bandido & Laredo Kid
5) Daga vs Trevor Lee vs Willie Mack vs Neza Kid
6) Ricochet & Sammy Guevara vs Penta Zero M & The King
7) Blue Demon Jr., Heavy Metal, M-ximo vs Bestia 666, Garza Jr., Mr. 450

This is a #hottake that no one’s going to read because it’s way down here, but The Crash is foolish if that’s the actual card order. It’s not a match quality issue. This is a statement about who the company actually sees as it’s bigger stars: the Lucha Brothers, or a part time Demon, a one time Metal and M-Ximo. The main is the Demon match because 20 years of Demon matches have talked people into believing he should be in the main event. That’s in the best interest of Blue Demon, but not in the best interest of the promotion.

There’s a lot of matches to get excited about, but everyone turning up who’s supposed to has made me a little leery of getting my hopes up (and, as always, there’s no official way to even see it.)

Mima Shimoda makes her debut, and Trevor Lee is back. He’s not particularly listed as a Impact wrestler, so I wonder if this is on his own and not the continuation of the angle they ran in Tijuana to set up a title match with Daga.

It’s one of those things I haven’t written about because it’s tough to find a way to write about nothing happening, but all the Impact stuff in Mexico – with The Crash and with AAA – seems to have gone cold . Impact is still taping stuff with other promotions. I wonder if it was just an expense issue, since everyone from these groups are still were being used on Impact’s own TV.

LDLL The Crash (MON) 12/25/2017 Salón Citlalli, Ecatepec, Estado de México
1) ? vs ??
2) Torito vs ToxinPegazus
3) Arez vs FlamitaAstroluxLátigo
4) Skayde vs Pequeño Black Shadow
5) Black Terry vs Daga
6) Rey Fénix vs Penta 0M

“The Crash” logo is big on the poster, but it looks like it might be someone else may actually be promoting this one. Whatever the deal is, it’s an interesting card.

One of my favorite things to bring up on the podcast is how Fenix and Penta have never had a singles match in Mexico. Whoever’s behind this show is finally killing that meme dead. They may kill each other dead too.

someone tape this show for Powerbomb.TV or Highspots thank you.

Niebla Roja wins (disappointing) Copa Jr., Nicho returns in TJ, Elite

Monito

The Crash (THU) 11/30/2017 Arena Aficion [@LuchaParaTodos, Cuadrilatero TV]
1) Kastigador, Toto, Vengador b Astrolux, Látigo, Torito Negro
2) Cíclope & Miedo Extremo b Pegazus & Tiago and Cobre & Príncipe Cometa
Cometa replaced Jimmy.
3) Bestia 666 & Drastik Boy b Bugambilia & Jimmy
Jimmy & Bugambilia replaced Flamita & Willie Mack.
4) Bandido (Indie) b Látigo
5) Daga & The King DRAW Black Terry & Solar I
Terry suffered a shoulder injury.
6) Penta Zero M DQ RushGarza Jr.La Máscara
Pierroth got involved, which might have caused the DQ.

Building looked about half full; I suspect DTU will end up drawing better for their own year end show in this building in a couple weeks. CuadrilateroTV says Black Terry suffered a shoulder dislocation. It was initially thought he might need an operation, but the doctor fixed it and he’ll only need some rest.

The Crash (FRI) 12/01/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [126F, San Diego Red, The Crash, @JorgeGCRR]
1) Aramis (Estado de México) & Toxin (Estado de México) b Arkángel Divino & Black Boy
Money thrown in. Aramis pinned Arkangel.
2) Christi Jaynes, Keyra, Lacey Lane b Black Danger, Jonathan, Último Maldito
crowd was strongly behind the women against the men. Money thrown in.
3) Jack Evans b Hijo de LA ParkJoey RyanLuke HawxViento
Billed as a trios, but no Famous B, so they just made it a 5 way.
4) Damián 666 & M-ximo DQ Black Taurus & Pierroth
Garza ran in and piledrived Damian for the DQ. Daga & Fenix got involved in the post match and cage match challenges followed.
5) Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson b Daga & The King
Daga replaced Flamita. Finish saw the Bucks land the Meltzer Driver on Daga, then Fenix roll up Matt Jackson. Referee counted three, but only for the Bucks.
6) La Máscara & Rush b LA Park & Nicho el Millionario and Bestia 666 & Garza Jr.
Nicho made a surprise return, taking Daga’s place and wearing his Psicosis gear. After the match, Rush said he only wanted to defend his hair against LA Park’s mask, which Park brushed off – he felt he had Rush beat in Arena Mexico and CMLL stopped the match to save him. Park teased restarting the LWO (!?!) with Psicosis.

Looked like another full house or close to it. They’re still really strong in Tijuana, where they’ve had a year of good shows (as opposed to just debuting and not being known well everywhere else.) They teased the cage match in January heavily enough that I guess that might actually be happening. Semimain was said to be very good but the finish was strange.

ELITE (FRI) 12/01/2017 Deportivo Pavón, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo]
Attendance: 650
1) Hip Hop Man & Mosca (Argentina) b Rocky Lobo & Saru
2) Villano V Jr. b Gallo Tapado Jr.León Dorado Jr.Jaque Mate Jr.
Gallo Tapado Jr., Leon Dorado Jr., Jaque Mate Jr. replaced Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Super Muneco Jr., and Super Tapatio Jr.
3) Dr. Karonte Jr., Hijo De Dos Caras, Tyson La Bestia b Alas de Oro, Dragón Dorado, Golden Magic
Dos cheated to win.
4) Bandido © DRAW Xtreme Tiger [ELITE WELTER]
3rd defense? No details on the draw. Tiger wanted a rematch.
5) Trauma I & Trauma II b Sharlie Rockstar & Zorro
No Ultima Ninja. The match was changed around to have Zorro & Sharlie teaming, only they didn’t get a long and that caused them to lose.
6) Mr. Electro b CibernéticoBlue Demon
Mr. Electro got the win after Hijo de Dos Caras and Golden Magic both were involved.

That’s a decent turnout considering the WWE show (which seemed to draw well), the CMLL show (which did not), and even AAA running in Neza (which was around half full, about what you’d expect.) The results don’t interest me much; the last four finishes being interference, team break up, draw, and rudo cheating doesn’t seem inspired. There were cameras at ringside shooting the show, but I guess I don’t know if they were Azteca or +LuchaTV or someone else. Elite didn’t appear to give any date of when this would air on TV Azteca, or say much at all.

CMLL (FRI) 12/01/2017 Arena México [ClaroOvacionesthecubsfan]
1) Shockercito & Stukita DQ Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:45. Tecncios took 2/3, the last by DQ when Mercurio tossed Shockercito over the top rope.
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Astral, Pegasso, Stigma LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:28. Rudos took 1/2, the last when Pegasso unmasked Raziel.
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Silueta b Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Seductora replaced Zeuxis early in the week. 13:44. Tecnicas took 23/.
4) Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
17:06. Rudos took 1/3.
5) Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Marco Corleone, Titán, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:09. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Niebla Roja b CarísticoNegro CasasVolador Jr.MephistoMisticoShockerDragón LeeEuforiaSansónStuka Jr.Felino [Copa Jr. VIP] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
27:45. Sanson replaced Dragon Rojo on Tuesday (injury). Cibernetico sides were tecnicos vs rudos. Eliminator order: Stuka (by Euforia), Felino (Dragon Lee), Dragon Lee (Sanson), Euforia (Caristico), Shocker & Volador were DQed, Negro Casas (Caristico), Mistico (Sanson), Sanson (Caristico), Caristico (Mephsito) and Mephsito (Niebla Roja.) Roja landed badly twice in the last couple minutes but seemed OK after the match.

There are some CMLL shows you might as well skip. This is one you definitely should skip. The undercard was largely boring when it wasn’t bad, and the main event was a sloppy disappointment that nearly completely derailed. Mephisto needs to stop going to the second rope because it’s not working out for the people he’s with. Caristico mentioned he was hurt on Twitter after this match, which is probably mean to be his explanation for his own shaky performance. CMLL’s pushing Niebla Roja stronger after the Anniversary show (which is more a reflection about how badly that was messed up), and they have him doing every Hector Garza spot they can think of.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara has a Facebook post up teasing the son of a legend debuting soon. The commenters think it’s Atlantis’ son, and they might be right.

Shows of note this weekend

Saturday

  • AAA tapes in Xalapa. AAA’s matches haven’t changed as much from their lineups on the last couple tapings, and there’d will be two title matches if that holds up here. Villano III & La Hiedra, who previously lost to Big Mami & Nino Hamburguesa in a non-title match, will challenge for the mixed tag titles. Cuervo & Scoria will get a rematch for the regular tag title against Murder & Monster Clown. The main is listed as a trios, combining the three main feuds: Psycho/Escorpion, Fantasma/Texano, and Wagner/Mundo (using Hernandez as a stand in.) This is the second to last taping of the year, with another to come in two weeks.
    • FWIW, last week’s TV announced Guerra de Titanes would be in Mexico City in January, but didn’t give a location or a date. Still guessing the weekend of the 21st in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera.
  • Arena Coliseo has a very rare defense of the Mexican Lightweight title. Electrico figures to retain over Pequeno Nitro, but CMLL hasn’t made it mean anything to anyone besides those two people.
  • Jun Kasai has the first of his two matches in Mexico in Monterrey’s NGX. He teams with Joe Lider to face Pagano & Violento Jack, which is why Pagano is not part of the TV taping.
  • The finals of the Matematico nuevo valores tournament happens in Mexico City. I am not sure who’s left, but I know the Furia de Titanes Facebook page was covering this with (live?) video last round, so it might be something easy to watch.
  • The same luchadors who were in New York last night head to New Jersey today.

Sunday

An interview with Zacatecas referee El Coyote.

Lineups

CMLL (FRI) 12/08/2017 Arena México
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Euforia, Hechicero, Pólvora
4) Dragón Lee vs Titán [lightning]
5) Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Marco Corleone, Negro Casas, Valiente [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero vs Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

The semimain is along the lines of Relevos Incredibles we’re used to this year: listed as one, but just really Los Ingobernables versus some tecnicos. The main event is the old version we used to get, which usually set up things. This is at least a tease of Mistico/Caristico again.

Titan has never had a singles match with this Dragon Lee, but he did long ago have one with the original that was pretty fun. This should be too.

The Shockercito/Mercurio feud is interesting, because I thought they had hit their limit of apuesta matches. Maybe a third one on the Friday before Three Kings Day (01/05)?

MDA (SUN) 12/17/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Greco Baez vs Vazco Jr.
2) Black Raider vs Baby FaoxRey PanteraQuinto Elemento [Copa Rey Orion]
3) El Bandido (Indie) © vs The Tiger [WWA WELTER]
first defense
4) Makabre & Toscano vs Furor & Galactar
5) Xtreme Tiger vs Ninja Jr.
6) El Hijo Del Santo & Laredo Kid vs La Máscara & Zorro

This is a very random lineup; I think there must be another show pulling away talent from this one, because the main event just looks weird. The WWA Welter is the Todo x el Todo belt, so Santo being in the main event is probably why Bandido is defending it here.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-01

Zacarias

Recapped: 12/01/2017

Matches: 

Shockercito & Stukita beat Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
(13:45 [4:21, 3:41, 5:43], 2/3 DQ, below average)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus beat Astral, Pegasso, Stigma  
(12:28 [8:14, 4:14], 1/2 DQ, ok)

Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Silueta beat Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany
(13:44 [5:49, 3:55, 4:00], 2/3, below average)

Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys beat Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
(17:06 [5:19, 4:33, 7:14], 1/3, ok)

Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Marco Corleone, Titán, Valiente  
(11:09 [4:38, 0:35, 5:56], 1/3, ok)

Niebla Roja beat Carístico, Negro CasasVolador Jr.MephistoMisticoShockerDragón LeeEuforiaSansónStuka Jr.Felino for the Copa Jr. VIP
Arena México, 12/01/2017

  1. 07:39 Euforia armtrap armscissors Stuka
  2. 09:35 Dragon Lee hanging double stomp Felino
  3. 14:18 Sansón powerbomb backbraker Dragon Lee
  4. 15:00 Caristica on Euforia
  5. 16:54 DQ Shocker
  6. 16:54 DQ Volador
  7. 18:00 Carístico casita Negro Casas
  8. 19:00 Sansón torture rack Mistico
  9. 23:22 Carsitico pin Sanson
  10. 23:56 Mephisto Devil’s Wings Caristico
  11. 27:45 Niebla Roja inverted campana Mephisto

What Happened:

Mistico had one big spot in the match

Niebla Roja has two bad falls near the end of the main event. There was no Casas/Adonis interaction.

Again, no Kraneo, but Mije comes out anyway in the match Kraneo was booked for (and mostly stood there without doing anything.)

The rudos went after Pegasso’s mask often during the segunda match. Pegasso unmasked Raziel for the DQ. No one else seemed to be added to the match.

Stukita eliminated Pequeño Olímpico, then Mercurio tossed Shockercito over the top onto his partner for the DQ. It appeared this was meant to be the start of a feud.

Review:

this was good

This show needed a strong main event to save it. It got anything but that. The Copa Jr. VIP was good in segments – Dragon Lee and Euforia had a great exchange, Volador had some good moments while he was on – but was already tending to disappointing territory before the last few minutes. Niebla Roja took a bad accidental fall on his head to the floor, then an even worse one on his neck in the middle of the ring. I’m not sure if he thought (like everyone else) Mephisto was going for a Devil’s Wings and got a powerbomb, or if he was just completely out of it after the first move. I do know this is the second time this has happened this year, after Matt Taven had near about the same thing happen with him and Mephisto. The goal of this match was to give Niebla Roja a big win, and there’s definitely a story you could tell with him surviving near death to win the match, but they moves were so obviously screwed up (and they’re so bad at improving) that they had to pretend everything was fine and to go the normal finish right away. It clearly was not fine.

It wasn’t fine before that moment. Carístico wrestled as if he was spooked by the WWE being back in town, making more errors than he had since leaving that ring. He still got most of the eliminations, oddly being pushed far ahead of CMLL’s own Mistico now. An awful double elimination spot saw Volador get disqualified for superkicking Tirantes after Shocker slightly pulled him in the way. Tirantes didn’t bother selling the kick, instead ceasing on his spotlight to gesture wildly and make himself the center of attention as always. He later accidentally counted down Niebla Roja for three, which caused the crowd to be a little stronger against the técnico as he was trying to win the match. Sansón got some big wins but also seemed not completely sharp. And CMLL’s transparent ambition to turn Niebla Roja into a Garza – he debuted the stripping spot in this match – is a bit out of a turn off. I guess a borrowed personality is better than none, but Roja’s added nothing new to the concept, and came off as an uninspiring cover band in a wrestling world where two other people (Garza Jr., La Mascara) are already playing those same songs.

The semimain was the match that got shorted on time because the the rest of the matches were much longer than they needed to be. This was the run of match, made worse because the rudos aren’t good with the most athletic stuff the técnicos can do. Niebla’s backwards fall to the floor is going to hurt him a bunch one day and isn’t getting a reaction now. Monito & Zacarias were the highlight of this match, even while doing their same stuff as usual.

a few seconds of Euforia & Dragon Lee

The fourth match was a fine enough match, but my interest in the show had been pretty well killed by the undercard. It wasn’t helped by Tirantes having one of his more involved performances, but this is one which felt like the peak was everyone attacking Adonis and then it just kept going longer. Some of the better spots were after that moment, but a show that was dragging could’ve used a fast paced match at this point. This would’ve been better on a different show.

The show really dragged for the first three matches. The women’s match wasn’t any good and the crowd let them know. Tiffany is painfully slow. Maravilla did 90% of the work for a headscissors she was in. There were few good moments, and the only positive is they weren’t actually blowing moves.

The second was clearly going two falls, if only because they were going way too long to go to a third one. It was strong build to a Raziel/Pegasso feud, which probably ever lead to a singles match and may not even exist a month from now. Los Cancerberos looked like a well oiled team at parts, which is odd only in that they barely ever get to team as a trio. I was bored during this match.

The minis opener felt like they were trying, but working at a slow pace. Stukita can take over a match at times, but he didn’t have that level of performance here. Mercurio didn’t bite anyone, so that was a plus, but he’s not as quick at the multiple headscissors as Demus. This didn’t separate itself from the average minis match and it wasn’t really clear why they bothered with that DQ finish. It didn’t accomplish much, except start out the show with two in a row.

if you made it this far, here’s Monito