UG/Stuka & Panther/Skandalo in Mexico, LU preview, LWC

Titan ramp dive
Titan ramp dive

CMLL (TUE) 05/17/2016 Arena México [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Demus 3:16 & Mercurio b Aéreo & Último Dragóncito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:32. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Metálico b Flyer, Metatrón, Robin LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:51. Rudos took 1/3. Metatron replaced Star Jr.
3) Soberano Jr. b Sangre Azteca [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:23. Soberano won via small pacakge.
4) Blue Panther Jr., Oro Jr., The Panther DQ El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:31. Straight falls, with Skandalo feuding with Panther and unmasking him in the second fall.
5) Bobby Z, Mephisto, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:39. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Máscara Dorada, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:17. Tecnicos took 2/3. Ultimo Guerrero bullied Stuka, Stuka beat him in the end.

This show died in the first hour and never really recovered. Skandalo losing his mask to The Panther as a retirement makes some sense on paper, but I’m not sure I’d like to see that two month feud. There wasn’t much of an indication they’re going that way, CMLL just has no real reason to do a Skandalo feud except for him to lose his mask right now.

Ultimo Guerrero has a championship and Stuka makes as much sense as a challenger as anyone, but there were no challengers. Like Monday night in Puebla, the main eventers just got out of there as quick as possible without saying anything.

There is no ELITE show today. They’ve moved to Saturday, at least for the moment. Today, Press Conference Wednesday, would make sense for an ELITE press conference to explain what’s going on, but there’s no sign of one happening.

Today’s Lucha Underground episode is “Crime and Punishment”, the 17th of the season. Matches on the show

  • Daga vs Kobra Moon vs Mascarita Sagrada vs Argenis
  • Marty the Moth vs Killshot (teased by this extra promo)
  • A Gift of the Gods match

There’s a preview vignette that starts to address the Cage/Chavo issue over who has a Medallion.

Over at Roster Resource, they list all the Lucha Underground luchadors sorted by tiers of importance. There’s no one they rank in tier one in a match tonight. There’s only a couple people in tier two. This show features the a lot of the bottom half of the roster by any measure, with people who’ve only lost feuds or haven’t been put in them. It doesn’t mean the show will be bad – people given opportunities usually do pretty well on Lucha Underground – but it’s interesting to see if the ratings reflect the lack of star power or if the week to week variance is shown to be more random noise than actionable information.

Eric has a preview of the show.

Rey Mysterio & Johnny Mundo were at the Univision upfront yesterday, taking photos with invitees. Univision owns 5% of El Rey and they appeared to be the (sole) representatives from the channel, but there was no news about the channel. Univision itself announced a deal with Netflix, but maybe not the one you’d expect: the TV network will be airing Netflix’s originals Club de Cuernos (soccer drama) and Narcos (drug drama) after they’ve aired on Netflix. Mysterio’s been doing press for Lucha Underground all week: this twitlonger post has links to his interviews with ESPN & SI.

AAA announced the third women’s team for the Lucha World Cup: a Team Canada, with Taya, KC Spinelli and TNA’s Allie. “TNA’s Allie” actually appeared with that name for the first time a few minutes after she was announced on the team; she debuted with the new name on last night’s TNA show, and is better know on the indies as Cherry Bomb. (She’s married to “TNA’s Braxton Sutter”, also better known as Pepper Parks, and it’s possible he’ll end up on one of the men’s teams.) Spinelli, like Taya, is a Lance Storm trainee who appeared on the World of Hurt reality show and has wrestled in Canada and in the US for women’s promotions.

Seven of the twelve teams are now complete. It seems like the LWC strategy is to announce a new name or trio every evening to keep people talking about it. Tonight would be a good night for the US people from Lucha Underground or Rey Mysterio’s team.

There’s also an AAA interview with Fabi Apache talking about wanting new challenges and the tag titles being that challenge.

TNA announced Tigre Uno/Extreme Tiger has signed a new contract. There’s no details. There’ are reports TNA is trying to sign their wrestlers to exclusive contracts, which might mean he’d be prevented from working ELITE or elsewhere in Mexico. It wouldn’t be in Tiger’s interest to sign a deal like that – he’s working a lot more in Mexico than he is in TNA due to their limited schedule – so there must be something else going on.

Psicosis II/Ripper took Infector’s mask in a cage match in Estado de Mexico on Sunday.

Caristico, Negro Casas and (a) Hijo del Rey Misterio defeated Rush, Mr. Elektro, and Fuerza Guerrera in Monterrey by DQ, when Rush unmasked Caristico. The DF trio of Flamita, Metaleon, and Golden Magic beat the northern trio of Laredo Kid, Ultimo Ninja and Ninja Jr., and the two teams fought post match suggesting a rematch. The Arena Coliseo Monterrey matches are airing on about a two week delay, so those matches may air the weekend of May 28th, but it’s always subject to change with Monterrey.

LuchaWorld has an interview with Oriental.

Apolo Valdes writes about intergender wrestling.

Llaves and Candados say they’re back on 06/26 in Monterrey. They’re teasing Rush versus Konnan Big, without using either name.

Casandra talks about her title defense this weekend.


IWRG (SUN) 05/22/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Astro & Rocket vs Galaxy & Hip Hop Man
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Emperador Azteca, Hijo del Alebrije
3) Dinamic Black vs Cerebro Negro
4) Imposible © vs Freelance [IWRG IC Light]
Imposible 13th defense
5) Danny Casas, Hijo De Dos Caras, Ultramán Jr. vs Electroshock, Fuerza Guerrera, Toscano

Electroshock is listed under his AAA name, which is probably a mistake. Ultraman and Fuerza haven’t been here for a while. Imposible has been here for a while, and is giving Freelance a second chance in a row. Tercera is a prelude to a title match if Dinamic Black can win.

CMLL on 2016-05-06 

Volador has no time for Cavernario's silliness
Volador has no time for Cavernario’s silliness

Recapped: 05/16-17/2016

What happened: Rey Escorpión seemed to cause problems between La Mascara & Rush, but was dumped to the side at the end. The first two matches had botched finishes due to referees counting unplanned eliminations, and the third had a pointless DQ.

What was good: The semimain was the best match, with some of the undercard derailed by the bad finishes (and the main event hurt by feed issues.)

Where can I watch it: It’s on rockerGamer30’s channel. (more…)

CMLL Arena Mexico: 2016-05-17 

He's back
He’s back

Recapped: 05/17/2016

What happened: Both Skandalo/The Panther and Ultimo Guerrero/Stuka feuded, though it’s unclear if either of those are meant to have a shelf life past this show.

What was good: Nothing really stuck out as good. There were stretched of good stuff in the later matches, but there was a lot of boring wrestling around it.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s Youtube channel. (more…)

Marco defeats Rush, Hijos del Infierno & Tortuga Ninjas still champions

still champ
still champ

CMLL (SUN) 05/15/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Esto es Lucha GDL, Fuego en el Ring]
1) El Diplomático b Micro
2) Fugaz & Johnny Dinamo b Carlo Roggi & Mr. Apolo
3) Capitán Cobra, Cosmos, Reyko b Gitano, Linterna, Relámpago
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Kempo Dragón & Príncipe Kisho b Gallo & Vaquero Jr.
Sinaloa outsiders took 1/3. Kisho was eliminated, but pulled Gallo’s mask from the outside and Kempo got the pin. Kempo’s normally a tecnico and noted they didn’t win cleanly, but still wanted a shot at Gallo & Vaquero’s Pacific Coast tag titles, held by Vaquero & Gallo.
5) Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Ráfaga DCOR Joker, Maléfico, Sádico
Team Joker took fall 1, Team Rafaga took fall 2, and both sides battled outside after dives for the very rare main event draw.

Not even sure last time a show ended with a draw. Esto es Lucha GDL notes Kisho & Dragon got in trouble with the boss of the Sinaloa luchadors about something they did here. I guess it could just be part of the storyline about the cheating, but it doesn’t read that way.

IWRG (SUN) 05/15/2016 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Adrenalina & Fireman b Aramis & Atomic Star
2) Avisman & Hip Hop Man b Astro & Omega
3) Dinamic Black, Emperador Azteca, Freelance b Cerebro Negro, Killer Jr., Trauma II
straight falls. Trauma II replaced Herodes Jr. Dinamic Black wants a shot at Cerebro Negro (for the title he never lost), but Cerebro wants a super libre match first
4) Leo, Mike, Rafy © b Factor, Rayan, Spector [EdM Trios]
first defense
5) Canis Lupus, Danny Casas, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Hijo De Dos Caras, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Trauma I
Trauma I attempted to give Canis Lupus a martinete again, but Lupus fouled him and got the win. Everyone fought post match.

They’re going somewhere with the heavyweights feuding, but not sure where. No next card announced yet.

CMLL (MON) 05/16/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Akuma & Espanto Jr. b Black Tiger & Millenium la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:12. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Hombre Bala Jr. & Star Jr. b Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
17:51. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Astral, Eléctrico, Shockercito DQ Espíritu Maligno, Mini Joker, Saurón la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:08. tecnicos took 2/3. Sauron beat Astral, but decided to keep putting holds on him until he was DQed. Sauron wants a minis title shot.
4) Boby Z, King Jaguar, Kráneo b Fuego, Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr. la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:24. Rudos took 1/3. King Jaguar & Bobby Z replaced Morphosis & Olimpico, Soberano (in a plain black mask & Mephisto’s pants) replaced Super Porky.
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © b Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. [MEX TRIOS] la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:24. Hijos del Infierno took 1/3, the last with Mephisto beating Angel de Oro. 4th defense.
6) Marco Corleone b Rush la mejor LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE MAYO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:32. Rush won the first, got intentionally DQed in the second, and was beat in the third.

So, we have to have an unhappy conversation about Rush. We don’t even know if there’s something going on with Rush, so the unhappiness could just be getting concerned about something that’s not existent, not true. Still, Rush losing cleanly to one friend Marco here, the end of the Ingobernables setting up a singles match with Rush’s other friend La Mascara, and (at least) a short term run getting team with his father can be interpreted as Rush checking items off his CMLL bucket list, not so different from La Sombra’s single matches before he left town. It does not mean Rush is going to WWE, but it’s a possibility now worth considering as things go forward. It’s seems like something happened in the last month, with the Maximo/Marco vs Rush/Mascara program seemingly swapped out for Mascara/Rush, and an offer to go elsewhere is one of many possible reasons.

I don’t claim to know anything about this – I was very wrong about the trios title change last night – but I’m just pointing it out as something to keep an eye on.

(There’s not even any point in really asking Rush about it, because Sombra insisted there was nothing to him going to WWE until the day he showed up in Florida, though Rush deserves the chance to deny rumors all the same.)

Tonight’s CMLL main event is a reunion of Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero, best tag team of the early 2000s but mostly having gone separate ways for the last decade. They team with Gran Guerrero to take on Stuka, Mascara Dorada and Volador, in Volador’s final match before heading to Japan. Dragon Lee is listed as returning to action, after a 23 day injury break, teaming with Blue Panther & Guerrero Maya Jr. versus Mephisto, Vangellys and Bobby Z.

The fourth match includes the Dinamita kids (Sanson & Cuatrero) teaming with Skandalo against Oro and the panther kids. Soberano, probably in his own mask and gear this time, takes on Sangre Azteca in a lightning matches. The segunda match, with Flyer, Robin and Metaleon against Arkangel, Metalico and Canelo Casas and the opener, Ultimo Dragoncito & Aereo vs Demus 3:16, & Mercurio, don’t seem to offer much new or interesting, so maybe you’d like to tune in a little late. (Edit: Wait, Metaleon? That’s new. He’s in for Star Jr.) The show itself is scheduled to start at 7:30pm, and stream on CMLL and YouTube.

Kronosport posted Lady Maravilla’s message about leaving AAA, and it’s not totally clear if she left AAA or if AAA let her go after reading it. (Also, Facebook translates róster to rooster, which is not correct but definitely funny.) She was only rarely used on TV, as AAA have moved away from doing may all women matches. I think they’re down to Taya, Faby Apache, Mary Apache, Lady Shani, La Hiedra as regular, with La Hechicera working occasional house shows, Keira occasionally listed on shows and very occasionally working those shows, and Sexy Star technically employed.

Maybe Lady Apache too, since she’s at least in for the Lucha World Cup. Her photo isn’t on the website, but she talked positively about her participation with +LuchaTV in a video posted today. Could be as simple as they haven’t gotten a recent photo to use yet – they need the green X-Men gear. She’s going to have a busy weekend if her team makes the final: Saturday in Puebla, Sunday in San Francisco for PWR and Sunday back in Mexico City.

Blue Demon was officially added to the Mexico Leyendas team. It’s strange whatever deal needed to be done wasn’t done in time for the press conference last Wednesday, and that the name wasn’t held off until whatever thing they’re doing to announce the rest of the show, but it won’t make much of a difference. LA Park has some thoughts about another member of that team: “if La Parka is a legend, I’m a super mega legend.” (La Parka says he’s not a legend.)

+LuchaTV has an interview with Bobby Z, Dragon Rojo and Polvora hyping themselves as a great trio, so maybe Rey Escorpion really is going with Rush & Pierroth and those three are the Revolucionarios now. Or maybe they’ll change their mind next week. Polvora’s beard is out of control.

There’s also a Mangifico & Templario interview when they say they’re from Ultimo Guerrero’s school, so Magnifico II is training with the same guy as his brother. Maybe Magia Blanca hasn’t been used yet because they’re waiting for Magnifico II to get approved to debut? (But then, no one’s of the trainees are going anywhere.)

A Lucha 2000 interview with Tiago, the ex-Mini Charly Manson, includes him mentioning that he’d be open to fighting minis, but wants to move to the normal division.

El Pancracio has a few articles on Kato Kung Lee: a 2006 interview about his career (his name came about from a EMLL programing department screw up), about his struggle with illness for the last years of his life  and about him being honored at the latest Expo Mascaras.

Chairo 4 06/19 Arena Naucalpan
1: Impulso vs Freelance, hair vs hair

LuchaWorld has this week’s KrisZ’s news update and this week’s PosterMania.

Box Y Lucha is offering discounts for renewals. I finally renewed my subscription yesterday. I could’ve saved $16 if I had waited a few hours.

Sololucha is selling Lucha Underground merchandise in Japan. It looks like mostly the same stuff as in the US, so they’re just importing it.

Lucha Underground Executive Producer Eric Van Wagenen’s other show, the Apprentice, returns in January 2017. LU episodes seem to be finished (with all the extra work done after the live event is finished) a few weeks before they appear, but I wonder if they’ll just keep going and finish off many season 3 shows this fall so Van Wagene can shift to the Apprentice when that show airs.

WillyWanka has a highlight package of Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner.

Kcidis draws Los Ingobernables breaking up.


CMLL (MON) 05/23/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & Astro vs El Malayo & Guerrero Espacial
2) Oro Jr. & Soberano Jr. vs King Jaguar & Policeman
3) Astral vs Saurón [lightning]
4) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
5) Dragón Lee, Titán, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
6) Atlantis, Carístico, Negro Casas vs Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy, Mephisto [Relevos Increíbles]

Astral/Sauron don’t have their title match, but do have a singles match. Main event has some interesting combinations, and the top three could all be good matches.

new video releases for weekend of May 14-May 15th

it's a Copa Higher Power week
it’s a Copa Higher Power week, so I can just pick a random spot in a video and find a GIF

YouTube playlist:

This might be the last week of mediafire links. They’re discontinuing their desktop sync client in July, and their web upload client has always taken about 10-15x longer to upload files. I’m considering moving to unless someone has a better idea. (I’m using Dropbox for other uses and don’t want to mix these files on there.) I’m unsure of when I’ll switch, but it doesn’t make sense to keep putting them up on the service I won’t be using.

I subscribed to Mediafire a year, so the links will continue to work until January. You can always ask for the videos or download them off YouTube after that point.

There’s more Azteca HD episodes below, and I added some late last week if you missed them. Kamaitachi/Dragon Lee was 3 GBs alone.

I missed out on most of this week’s AAA episode; it aired much later than usual on one channel I record, and not at all the other. The PROESA episode was a repeat. The IWRG show started early, but it seemed like we caught most of the match. (more…)

CMLL Puebla: 2016-05-16

still didn't work
didn’t quite work

Recapped: 05/16/2016

What happened: Marco Corleone defeated Rush in the main event (though Rush gave away the middle fall with a DQ.) Hijos del Infierno kept the trios titles.

What was good: The main event was the best match on the show, with the two prior make it just past the good line for me.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube now, and will be on 52MX a couple weeks from now.


05/29 AAA TV Lineup (Pachuca)

AAA TV (SUN) 05/29/2016 Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
1) Atomic Boy, Dinastía, Pimpinela Escarlata, Venum vs Apache, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown, Soul Rocker
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs La Hiedra & Taya
3) Aerostar, Drago, Fénix vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin [#1 Contenders, AAA TRIOS]
4) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Damián 666, Halloween, Nicho el Millionario
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Texano Jr. vs ? & Hernandez
6) Psycho Clown vs Pentagón Jr. vs Pagano

Air Date:  06/11 & 06/18

AAA has a spot show in the same city two days later. That’s an unusual scheduling choice. I suspect that other show might be quietly rescheduled.

Also, the TV show revealed Verano de Escandalo will take place on 06/19 in Monterrey. That’s a little bit of an interesting choice in venue, since some of the guys in Monterrey AAA might go to for help for local promotion are now doing a podcast with Konnan. Maybe everyone can just work together amicably.

They stopped putting the silhouette that gave away the mystery person! Now maybe just stop doing mystery person? It probably should be Cage or Mesias and it’d be odd for them not to just be listed. Still seems like they’re headed to Wagner/Parka/Texano vs Team Trump, which doesn’t seem like a big match for a PPV main event. (Maybe a six way instead?)

The finish in the third match feels telegraphed by Averno & Chessman already having an opponent for the tag titles. Xinetez/tecnicos should be good the second time. I don’t like La Hiedra’s odds in the second match, or Argenis’ crew in the fourth match.

Pagano probably should be getting a Latin American championship shot by beating Psycho Clown – and Psycho seems like the odd man out by winning his feud with Dr. Wagner, so maybe he’s a long term part of this feud

Other quick AAA notes:

  • the tickets for Puebla 06/03 Lucha World Cup first round are running 220 to 1210 MXPs ($12 to 66 USD). Show listed as starting 8:30pm, which means it’s going to be a very late night.
  • the Mexico 06/05 Lucha World Cup final has a start time of 4pm. That’s early for an AAA show.
  • There’s a nice look back at AAA 1992 posters, as part of a piece writing about the 24th Anniversary of the promotion. Dorian Roldan mentioned to +LuchaTV that AAA is planning for something big for the 25th Anniversary. That’d be a change; there’s no bigger difference between the two promotions than CMLL building it’s whole year to it’s birthday and AAA typically just mentioning their own relatively quietly. (But getting 1992 posters is cool to me.)
  • Edit: Kronosport says Lady Maravilla quit AAA. Her Facebook is mostly friends only, so I don’t see a message saying that but it’s probably there.

It’s unclear if there’s another taping between this show and Verano de Escandalo; it really depends on if they’ll be airing the Lucha World Cup as part of normal TV. It feels like there ought to be another one, because the Verano de Escandalo card doesn’t feel like it’s taken shape much at all, but we’re also a month away from the show in real time. Might as well take one guess at the card:

random mixed tag
random other match
Los Xinetez (c) versus Aerostar, Fenix, Drago for the AAA Trios Championship
Averno & Chessman (c) versus Faby Apache & Mary Apache for the AAA Tag Team Titles
Psycho Clown, Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagon versus Pagano, Nicho, Damian, Halloween
La Parka, Dr. Wagner, Texano Jr. versus Hernandez, Cage, Mesias

Again, it’s missing a big match; it feels more like a TV taping than a major show. Maybe something will happen yet.

05/14 AAA TV Results (Orizaba) – Psycho Clown added to LWC

photo by AAA

AAA TV (SAT) 05/14/2016 Plaza de Toros La Concordia, Orizaba, Veracruz [AAA]
1) Faby Apache, Mary Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata, Venum b Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Mamba
Unlisted bonus match; may air. Faby & Mary got the win for the team.
2) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown b Daga & Joe Lider
Nicho cost Joe Lider the match, with Murder Clown getting the win.
3) Psycho Clown b Ricky Marvin, Nicho el Millionario, Hijo de Pirata Morgan [Lucha Libre Victoria World Cup qualifier]
Winner joins Pentagon Jr. & Texano on the AAA team. Dropped to the third spot. Psycho Clown came out before the match, asked Marisela to be in the match, and was granted a spot. Nicho beat Pirata and Psycho, and Psycho beat Nicho with help from Daga & Lider. Pagano threatened Psycho after the match.
4) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Taurus b El Elegido, Garza Jr., Niño Hamburguesa
Taurus beat Hamburguesa with a superplex.
5) Hernandez & Zorro b La Parka & Texano Jr.
The Xinetez attacked Texano at the start of the show, with Zorro saying they were allied with Team Trump. Parka made the save. Hernandez was the mystery person (and presumably part of Team Trump as well.) Texano beat Zorro, but still refused to be friends with La Parka.
6) Averno & Chessman © DQ Argenis & Australian Suicide [AAA TAG]
3rd defense. Rematch from the last taping, which had a controversial DQ. Averno tricked Copetes into DQing Argenis again. Avenro issued an open challenge to any challenger, but was dismissive when Faby & Mary unexpectedly accepted the challenge.
7) Pagano b Psycho Clown [hardcore]
Pagano won with a Spanish Fly thru a table on fire and a heel ref.

Air Date: 05/28 & 06/04

It’d be disingenuous to complain about the results for this taping because it wasn’t like I was all that interested in the lineup either, and they simply did what you’d assume they would do for the show. Even Psycho Clown being added to the World Cup qualifying should’ve been figured out ahead of time, since there was that Record article listing the trio originally in the qualifying match, and the three guys put in the match never really made sense. (It leaves the selection team as Texano, Psycho Clown and Pentagon, as close as they can get to repeating last year’s team with Hijo del Fantasma out of action.)

AAA’s pushing the main even as one of the most impressive matches of the year. The photos and text show it to be what you’d expect from Pagano, and something along the lines of Psycho’s recent matches with Dr. Wagner. Those matches haven’t worked for me and I suspect this won’t be anything different, but AAA seems invested in Pagano to a higher level than most of the people working there, and they might as well let him do his style of match if they’re in on him. I don’t have much issue with the result and it sounds like it might have been the usual heel referee meaningless outcome anyway.

The Twitter live post mentioned the tag match ended in DQ. It’s not mentioned elsewhere, so I’m not quite sure how Averno & Chessman pulled it off. It’s strange to do a match with a confusing DQ, then do a rematch with a DQ, and that’s apparently the end of the feud. (If you can’t beat Argenis, who can you beat?) The Faby/Mary challenge will go fine, could possibly just be a solution for Angelico & Jack being out, and makes sense given they’re treated as so more important than the other woman. That, not intergender, feels like the bigger long term problem here: there’s exactly three women around who are taken seriously, AAA won’t book any of those three women against each other in titles matches (for reasons), and so it’s nothing but meaningless tag matches. It’s no different than the CMLL minis division, except AAA’s women division has people who are actually over (Faby, Taya) so they might as well pull them into places where that overness is useful. It’s good they came up with an idea, but it’s a problem they’ve been unable/unwilling to get anyone other woman over to face them, or to just have them face off.

The pro-intergender message here does fall a little flat in the greater context. It’s hard to make the case Faby & Mary should be able on the same level as the men at the same time as the same promotion is running a tournament where the women (including Faby & Mary) and men are specifically being kept separate from the men.

(Again, I’d guess this is just something to fill a spot for Verano de Escandalo. Maybe, in theory, they’re thinking this as a way to save bigger matches for TripleMania – but since all the regular midcard AAA feuds seem to get pushed to the side for the guest stars at TripleMania, it seems unlikely to be going that way.)

Apache didn’t annoy Venum. Maybe they forgot. Maybe we’ll never know why this is happening. Not sure if there’s four matches one of these weeks, or if they’ll just make on a UTDN/YouTube exclusive.

Next taping is – the next post, actually.

strong Lucha Memes show, FULL, Puebla preview


photo by Black Terry Jr.
photo by Black Terry Jr.

FULL (SAT) 05/14/2016 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring]
1) Charly Madrid, Saru, Shadow Boy b Black Rider, Pequeño Black Warrior, Tupac Amaru
Expanded to a trios. The mini on the losing side is sometimes listed as Pequeno Guerrero. It’s definitely a bald Pequeno Black Warrior in his Warrior gear, but maybe trying to avoid using the name.
2) Lady Apache & Reyna Dorada b Ludark Shaitan & Quimera
Quimera replaced Vaquer
3) Ángel Del Amor, Decnnis, Zumbido b Hijo De Luzbel, Hijo del Fishman, Veneno
Hijo de Luzbel replaced Sucesor. Straight falls.
4) Cien Caras Jr., Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Scorpió Jr., Silver Kain bAlan Stone, Hijo De Dos Caras, Hijo de Máscara Sagrada, Huracán Ramírez
5) Grond XXX, LA Park, Súper Porky, Tinieblas Jr. DQ El Hijo del Solitario, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Pirata Morgan, Rey Bucanero
Tinieblas and Solitario are feuded.

This went from two shows to one show to one not well attended show.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 05/15/2016 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring]
1) Freelance b Aramis Freelance vs Aramis | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
bonus match. Money thrown in.
2) Eterno b Tequilita
3) Marcela b Princesa Maya
4) Trauma I & Trauma II b Alberto Dos Rios & Silver Star (Nuevo León) Silver Star y Alberto Dos Rios vs Trauma I y Trauma II | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
good match
5) Hechicero b Virus Virus vs Hechicero | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
great match
6) Caifan b Dr. Cerebro Caifan vs Doctor Cerebro | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
great match

Mexico City defeats Monterrey 3-2. Caifan & Dr. Cerebro talked about a rematch after the main event. That match, Hechicero/Virus and the opener sound like the best matches. There’s a highlight reel of the whole show here.

There’s no full results from the DTU show, but the most notable thing is Jinzo’s changed his name again. He’s going to use Ronnie Mendoza now.

No results from IWRG yet. +LuchaTV posted all the results except the Tortuga Ninja/Comando Elite title match, the cruelest of omissions.

Tonight’s Puebla show (apparently? maybe?) has the end of the Rush versus Marco Corelone feud, since Rush is now busy with La Mascara. Rush and Marco meet in the main event tonight, a rematch from last month in Puebla. It could be a newsworthy show, with the Hijos del Infierno defending the national trios title Angel de Oro, Stigma, and Stuka. Since Mephisto just won a title and Angel de Oro lost one, a title change seems more likely or not to rebalance the belts. (It’s not a great reason to do a title change but it’s the kind of way CMLL does them.)

The undercard has a minis versus Puebla trios, the Batillon taking on Hombre Bala & Star Jr., and Black Tiger & Millenium vs Akuma & Espanto Jr. in the opener. The show starts at the usual 9pm time. I was thinking of not watching the show live because I’m so far behind on other stuff, but this seems like a show tough to skip.

Chilanga Mask returns on 06/05 in Arena Jose Suliaman/Solidaridad
1: Extreme Tiger vs Caifan
2: Makabre vs Shiryu Dragon vs Aeroboy vs Wotan
3: Laredo Kid vs Ultimo Ninja vs Astro

Kato Kung Lee is on the cover of this week’s Box Y Lucha.

An article about the atmosphere of a Tuesday night show in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara.

Laredo Kid will face DJZ on May 28th in Cleveland’s AIW.

NOAH mentions their wrestlers going to the Lucha World Cup.

Alberto says he’s on both WWE tour of Mexico, despite not being listed on the preview picture. Kalisto is doing promotion work for the shows this week, so he’s surely on the tour as well.


CMLL (SUN) 05/22/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Tapatío vs Quca
2) El Yaqui & Fugaz vs Carlo Roggi & Exterminador
3) Capitán Cobra, Explosivo, Star Black vs El Gitano, Mr. Brisa, Thunder Boy
4) Gallo & Vaquero Jr. vs Kempo Dragón & Príncipe Kisho
5) Mágico, Nautilius, Omar Brunetti vs Furia Roja, Maléfico, Ráfaga

Missed this one last night. Semimain is a rematch. Exterminador hasn’t been around since the end of last year.

Atlantis keep his title, AAA TV upcoming schedule, Elite makes changes

photo by Black Terry Jr.
photo by Black Terry Jr.

CMLL (SUN) 05/15/2016 Arena México
1) Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia b Acero & Aéreo
2) Dinamic Black, Hombre Bala Jr., Starman b Grako, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca
Dinamic Black, in ELITE of late and originally a CMLL trainee, made his debut on official CMLL (replacing a new? Mano Negra Jr.). Grako also debuted in this match. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Oro Jr., Tritón b El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Máscara Dorada, Rey Cometa, Volador Jr.
Luiciferno replaced Cavernario early in the week.
5) Atlantis © b Rey Escorpión [MEX LH]
Atlantis took falls 2/3 (Atlantida) to retain. 3rd defense.

Expected outcome in the main event and no other apparent storyline. Grako appears to a vague cowboy gimmick, or maybe the same bit as Bobby Z plus a mask. Dinamic Black started in IWRG in 2009. It’s a long journey to get where you want to be, sometimes.

Black Terry Jr. has photos of today’s Lucha Memes show. Probably should have more details on that one tomorrow, but it sounds like the big matches went very well.

This week’s AAA TV is up. I’ll go over it again when I post about the TV results and next taping, but the important details are

  • AAA TV taping in Pachuca on 05/29
  • Verano de Escandalo in Monterrey on 06/19
  • LWC was already announced for 06/03 & o6/05…
  • which means the next LU tapings will be June 11 & 12 and June 25 & 26, unless AAA double books a weekend again.
  • LU tickets are usually announced two Mondays in advance, but they wouldn’t do it on Memorial Day – keep your eyes open around May 31st.

There’s likely another taping between Pachuca and Monterrey.

There is now a show on the Arena Coliseo schedule: Arkangel will have another Anniversary show at the building on July 16. They held one in the same building five years priorMatches announced so far are a trainee battle royal (same as the one Flamita was in five years ago), Mima Shimoda, Dallys and Reina Isis in a women’s match, and Arkangel, Okumura and Toscano versus Stuka, Titan and Gallo. A full card will come out closer to the show.

I’d bet they’re back in Coliseo before this date, but it’s good to put it out there just to make it less of an issue. CMLL seems to pick certain people’s anniversary’s to celebrate: they wrote up Okumura’s anniversary, but there’s only a handful of other guys who get mentioned.

AIW, which is starting to becoming a confluence of US indie wrestling and Mexican lucha libre with the guys they’ve brought in lately, announced Flamita would be debuting on June 17th, outside of Cleveland. It’s a Friday night show; I’d find a way to be there for sure if it was Saturday.

Pentagon is swinging back thru the midwest in late July. The video of his appearance in Chicago’s AAW includes a bonus promo where he challenges Sami Callihan for a title match on July 23rd. They didn’t mention that before the live audience – they’ve got a show in June first, and they rightly didn’t want to steal the attention from Ciampa after the main event – and I can only imagine how unglued that place would’ve come if they announced it. That match is going to sell a lot of tickets.  A week later, Pentagon’s also advertised for July 20th in South Bend

Segunda Caida watches some tournament lucha and a late 2014 Traumas vs Navarro/Terry match.

Mini Charly Manson/Tiago talks about leaving AAA and his name change to promote his Cara Lucha appearance.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update with a recap of Konnan’s last podcast.

RobViper has highlights of early March 2010 CMLL

Super Libre talked a lot about the LLF show in Guadalajara.


CMLL (FRI) 05/20/2016 Arena México
1) La Vaquerita & Lluvia vs La Comandante & Tiffany
2) Esfinge, Fuego, Tritón vs Hechicero, Puma, Tiger
3) Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Cavernario, Misterioso Jr., Pólvora
4) Ángel de Oro vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
6) Pierroth, Rey Escorpión, Rush vs La Máscara, Shocker, Terrible

They’ve gotten Rush & Mascara on opposite sides after the breakup much quicker than they put them on the same side when they got together. Rey Escorpion might be the new third member on the Rush/Pierroth side going forward (and maybe it was no concidence Bobby was back to teaming with Polvora & Dragon Rojo this week.) Semimain is almost a replay as this past week’s match, without Volado and Gran Guerrero. Cometa/Cavernario resume in the tercera, and the second match is way too good to be a second match. It should be a Tuesday main event.

ELITE (SAT) 05/21/2016 Arena México
1) Dr. Karonte Jr., El Hijo del Medico Asesino, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Dinamic Black, Emperador Azteca, Tritón
2) Dalys © vs La Jarochita [CMLL WOMEN]
3rd match show
3) Shu el Guerrero & Súper Astro vs Blue Panther & Fuerza Guerrera [Copa de Maestros Elite 2016]
4) Carístico vs La Máscara, Atlantis, Mephisto, Argos, Valiente, Toscano, Ángel de Oro, Puma, Golden Magic [ELITE MIDDLE, cibernetico]
new title
5) Rush vs Último Guerrero, LA Park, Cibernético, Máximo Sexy, Súper Crazy, Diamante Azul, Hijo De Dos Caras [ELITE HEAVY, Elite Battle]
new title. Royal rumble rules?

The first Saturday card. It’s billed as a Championship Saturday, which is why that tag match is a Copa and why Jarochita is getting a title shot. (Though that one opportunity does seem to validate her decision to jump to this promotion.) There’s no particular explanation in the lineup the top two matches are going on what this means for the not-present Liga Elite show. On their Facebook, Elite quickly mentions these titles are independent of Liga Elite. That doesn’t quite make sense, because the tournament’s was announced as for the heavyweight and that’s brought up on the show weekly. Maybe I’ll have to go back and see if stopped talking about it this week. The show is still listed as airing on Azteca7.

I’m thinking the new plan is most likely to run Elite every other Saturday and stretch the TV out over two weeks, with Sabado Retros on most every other Saturday (and Elite free to run spot shows on those days.) There’s definitely two weeks of material on this first show. Changing to a show every week would mean the Liga Elite format lasts until this time next year, which just doesn’t seem slightly realistic. They may not have planned that out yet, but I wouldn’t count out that tournament finishing as originally announced.

(If they’re not doing Liga Elite, do they keep bringing in Lashley? If they’re not going to keep bringing Lashley, did they know that when UG submitted him clean in his second match? Did Cage end up with the best possible outcome by staying with AAA in a major role?)

CMLL (SUN) 05/22/2016 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Artillero & Inquisidor
2) Ciclón Ramírez Jr., Soberano Jr., Starman vs Fujin, Nitro, Retro
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Súper Porky, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Luciferno, Vangellys
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee vs Ephesto, Kráneo, Mephisto

Never have I been happier that Sunday’s shows aren’t taping days. Diamante Azul returns to regular CMLL action (maybe, tough to tell with him.) Super Porky maybe wrestles in the semimain. Misterioso and Sagrado, given as much an onscreen burial as CMLL gives out, in that tercera. Ciclon Ramirez Jr. – who randomly showed up in Dragon Gate of all places for a tryout – makes his CMLL debut. Retro also debuts, and that name has shown up on a couple shows in Neza.