AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12

Machine lariat!

Recapped: 09/13/2015

What happened: Daga & Steve Pain cost Angelico & Jack a win, but they sort of also cost Lider & Pentagon the win and there’s some tension inside Perros del Mal. Myzteziz and Rey Mysterio started feuding in main events and I’m sure that’ll end up well. There’s a mystery person stalking La Secta, an angle I had completely forgotten existed when I finally put up this recap.

What was good: Everything! The opener was great (and a surprising Australian Suicide focused match), and the three way tag and the main event were good as well.

Where can I watch it: It’s up on AAA’s YouTube channel.

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lucha TV preview for the weekend of October 24

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Cadena3 is listed up there but this may just a memorial. Maybe the show returns in January when the channel returns under a new name. Maybe it gets shifted over to a new network quickly. No one knows and we may not know until someone stumbles onto the show randomly (because it’s not like anyone involved is sure to promote it.)

AAA starts a run of one taping per event episodes (which means the main guys make appear more frequently.) Tomorrow’s taping that was going on while Myzteziz was showing up in Arena Mexico. Beyond the matches, this is the first show after Heroes Inmortales so they might start to announce when/where Guerra de Titanes will be held

The time change only really affects CMLL on Puebla and IWRG on this week; they’ll both start around 11pm Eastern on Monday if you’re in the US. (Also, change your clocks on Sunday.) It’ll also push back Noches de Coliseo, but that airs at a random time as it is.

This is a strangely busy week for Heddi Karoui singles matches, between ClaroSports.com and IWRG.

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great match roundup for week of 2015-09-12

This week is pretty much all internet shows and AAA, though the Tuesday show had a good minis match too.

I believe this will be the last normal week where I’ll have four recaps still to post. Puebla and the iPPV weren’t recapped live, though I think I might have written or talked about the Anniversary show a bit. I will probably change how I’m doing these if C3 is really done Friday, because it’ll just be AAA that I’m not recapping live.

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Atlantis vs La Sombra for the mask CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
great Australian Suicide, Súper Nova, Venum vs Carta Brava Jr., Machine Rocker, Súper Fly AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12 2015-08-31
great Astral © vs Mercurio for the CMLL World Pequeño Estrellas Championship CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
good Angélico & Jack Evans vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoriaand Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr. AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12 2015-08-31
good Fénix & Rey Mysterio Jr. vs El Mesías & Myzteziz AAA on Televisa: 2015-09-12 2015-08-31
good Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Okumura, Puma CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
good Astral, Asturiano, Eléctrico vs Espíritu Maligno, Pierrothito, Saurón CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
good Dark Angel vs Princesa Sugehit in a lightning match CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
good Esfinge, Fuego, The Panther vs Disturbio, Puma, Virus CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
good Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
ok Pegasso, Starman, Stigma vs Canelo Casas, Nitro, Raziel CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
ok Fuego, The Panther, Tritón vs Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys CMLL on CadenaTres: 2015-09-12 2015-09-08
ok Molotov, Starman, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar, Policeman CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Atlantis, Mistico, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Rey Escorpión, Terrible CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2015-09-14 2015-09-14
ok Dark Angel vs Princesa Sugehit CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
ok Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Dragon Lee, Mistico, Valiente CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18
ok Shocker, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. vs Marco Corleone, Rush, Thunder in a relevos increíbles match CMLL iPPV: 2015-09-18 2015-09-18

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no Dia de Muertos lineup, Cuatrero & Sanson, CadenaTres, Alberto, DST

Monday’s Puebla show started with the ring announcer promoting the items for yesterday’s CMLL Informa, including “todos los detailes” for the Dia de Muertos shows. Apparently, all the details meant the costuming perpetration and not any of the matches. Nothing was announced, not even that it’s on iPPV. Ultimo Guerrero did appear as scheduled, inventing a lawsuit against Thunder and Tony Salazar (as head of security) that’ll never be mentioned by anyone else. Alfredo has a recap of what was talked about. They also interviewed Stukita, Mercurio, Zeuxis, Hechicero and Aguila Solitaria.

Besides not mentioning the Dia de Muertos, Informa did not mention Cuatrero and Sanson were introduced to the press as new members of CMLL. Those are the two (actual) sons of Cien Caras who regularly wrestle in Arena Lagos in Aguascalientes and have appeared in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara occasionally. They were certain to be coming to CMLL at some point, because of their family and their size, and hopefully will be good. They both appeared as part of the tribute to Cien Caras as the 2014 Homenaje a Dos Leyendas. Sanson is Cien Caras’ original name, Cuatrero means “rustler” (in the horse sense.) This Sanson is 19, and his brother Cuatrero is 21, and they’ve both been wrestling since September 2010. They started out training under Universo 2000 and have been training with Ultimo Guerrero and Virus in CMLL. There’s no official start date, just that they’ll be turning up soon.

CMLL Informa also didn’t mention the annual mass for Oro, which will be held this Saturday at Arena Coliseo (at 5:30, so a couple hours before the Retro show.)

This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentions Alberto el Patron has told people he’s taking all of December off to spend time with his family. That sounds like a great parental move, but it also has led people to speculate he’s not coming back to Lucha Underground (which is otherwise noted as more likely not) and maybe might not be taking bookings as part of a move back to WWE. (Again, there’s no mention of an AAA contract.) The WWE stuff is speculation plus talk of his name coming up within WWE, but that might WWE just coming up with ideas to entice him to come back. If Alberto is not working in December and Alberto is on Guerra de Titanes, then Guerra de Titanes is late November this year (or Alberto’s making one exception.)

There’s no update on the CadenaTres situation. The network hasn’t commented on the stories of it’s imminent closure. The frequency won’t be going dark. It’s being handed over to an all news channel owned by the same people (which is already airing, but with lesser availability until now.)  The bigger idea is that CadenaTres’ parent company won a contract to put in new TV towers across the country to launch themselves a national network when everything is ready – maybe in January or March or April – with a new name and look. If the lucha show was profitable enough and they wanted to, they could definitely move it over to news channel for now or bringing it back when they relaunch. My thinking is if they wanted to keep the same programming, they wouldn’t be letting everyone go, they’d just be keeping them all around for a few more months and relaunching then. The strange thing is you can find recent interviews with the people who run the parent company stating that CadenaTres was going to be that national network (and challenging TV Azteca and Televisa stations.)

This is now less an issue with CMLL apparently no long on CadenaTres, but Daylight Savings Time starts in Mexico (and much of the world) on Sunday, and not in the US until the week after. I’ll go over this again on the TV preview post, but this means the Dia de Muertos show will not start until 10:30 pm Eastern Time on 10/30. Maybe take a siesta beforehand? This appears to be a live only show too.  (Likewise, next week’s Puebla show will not start until 11pm ET.)

+LuchaTV has highlights of Rush versus Herodes Jr. in Arena Chilpanicngo. Herodes Jr. doesn’t seem to be working a completely full schedule, but he’s kept pretty busy since leaving CMLL and is getting matches (like this one) he wouldn’t have if he was still a segunda/tercera guy in CMLL.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and(Ultimo Guerrero coming up with his own angles)

Centella Roja said he’d be training and working small shows for 25 year before making his debut at Arena Puebla on Monday.

Low Rider promo from Japan. He’s on the next RIOT (Monterrey) show.

Plantilla Deportiva has a video interview with Kamaitachi.

Am.Com.MX talks to Leon luchadora Baby Angel.

Hijo de Rey Misterio is the headliner on a couple of shows in the Chicago area this weekend, including a show on Sunday about 10 minutes away from me. I guess I could go. I still haven’t decided if I’m going to CHIKARA on Friday, Sunday is too far away to make decisions.

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CadenaTres to shut down Friday; CMLL Tuesday shows no longer broadcast?

Cadena Tres, a Mexico City based network with affiliates elsewhere in Mexico, will cease operations and shut down on Friday according to a report. The channel has broadcast CMLL’s Tuesday night shows on Saturday nights since late in 2007. They’ve also aired Todo x el Todos shows in the past.

PublicMetro has the story based on a RadioFormula report earlier today. Cadenas Tres has not confirmed the story, and did not tell anything to it’s employees, but did indicate the shut down date to others. Employees are now hinting at the upcoming end and hoping it’s not the end, and there’s always at least a shot at reversal until they shut it off.

CadenaTres is currently CMLL’s only show transmitted over the air in Mexico City. CMLL’s only Mexico City television presence in their home town would be on cable networks 52MX and which are not available on all cable/satellite systems. CMLL’s reach in Mexico City is not good and this greatly reduces it.

These shows are all the ones which air on Time Warner Sportsnet Deportes in the US. That US company appears to buy bunches of episodes from C3. Those episodes will still be sitting in a vault somewhere, so maybe some one in some parent company will still be around to sell them, but it’s most likely the TWSD show will soon go into reruns before vanishing.

This news is surprising to me and seems like it must’ve surprised people involved. CMLL’s test stream for Tuesday night included the CadenaTres announcers calling the show as if normal, for a show which is not going to air unless plans change. (This story would’ve been known when CMLL Informa was on the air today but, as is usual, they did not acknowledge it.)

Cadena Tres was the only CMLL show not produced by CMLL itself. It’s possible this weekly card will no longer be transmitted on any network, though it’s likely they’ll continue recording it. They could have the Tuesday show take over the Claro Sports “Titanes en el Ring” broadcast (currently airing Sunday matches, which it’s expected to drop when Elite takes over that live event.) Alternatively, it’d probably be easier for everyone to YouTube stream the Tuesday Arena Mexico shows than the Monday Arena Puebla ones. Or they could just find another network to take the show; there’s a lot of little networks willing to take lucha libre if you can keep producing it.

Tuesday shows have been the least exciting CMLL shows for quite a while, but there’s still a few good matches which sneak thru. This is two hours less of lucha every week.

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CMLL iPPV price set (for now), Zeuxis keeps her title, Thunder versus Kraneo happening

photo by Alexis Salazar, CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 10/20/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia b Acero & Angelito
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Hijo del Signo b Metatrón, Oro Jr., Soberano Jr.
Isis interfered to help Arkangel win.
3) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso
4) Zeuxis © b Princesa Sugehit [MEX WOMEN]
Zexuis’ 2nd defense.
5) Ángel de Oro, Okumura, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Okumura replaced Dragon Lee (mentioned as injured) and had errors leading to his team losing.
6) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Super Porky, Titán, Volador Jr.

CMLL ended up airing the first two matches on cleeng. I recorded the show but did not (and still have not) watched my recording. I saw some people saying it was buffering and slowing down on them, and I saw others saying it was working fine. I did look around enough to confirm they’re not using YouTube; what they are using seems to be as secure as the AAA iPPVs.

Zeuxis used a New Move to win, as pictured above. (Maybe they realized too many people were doing the package piledriver? Though Rey Escorpion seems to be gone again.) The Yahoo! recap notes it Ricky Marvin’s Santa Maria.

CMLL knew Dragon Lee probably wasn’t going to wrestle all day – he didn’t the previous night – and they’re in Mexico City so they could literally call up any tecnico on their roster and ask them fill in. Guadalajara had a rudo/rudo match so there were plenty of not booked tecnicos around. They decided just throwing a rudo was good enough. Bleh.

CMLL (TUE) 10/20/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara[Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Omar Brunetti & Vaquero Jr. b Joker & Sádico
Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Cancerbero, El Chakal, Raziel b Hombre Bala Jr., Magnum, Súper Halcón Jr.
Rudos took 2/3
3) Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany b Estrellita, La Vaquerita, Marcela
Rudas took 2/3.
4) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Thunder b Kráneo, Morphosis, Ripper
Thunder pulled of Kraneo’s mask and pinned him for the win. This sets up a singles match next week.
5) Atlantis, Mistico, Valiente b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Tecnicos took 2/3.

Arena Coliseo Guadajara’s Twitter and Facebook posted live results, which might be the first time they’ve done that since the last management change. Kraneo versus Thunder will be Thunder’s first singles match ever in CMLL. I think it’s going to be better than the inevitable match with Ultimo Guerrero: doing Kraneo’s spots (and comedy) requires less than Ultimo Guerrero’s match, it’s likely to be a shorter match and 2015 Kraneo is just a lot more fun to watch than most of 2015 Ultimo Guerrero.

After yesterday’s iPPV trial, CMLL’s cleeng site now lists the 10/30 Dia De Muertos show as $6. (It was $5 last night. Guess you got to get in early?) $6 doesn’t include any fees cleeng adds in, but is almost exactly 100 pesos so that’s probably how they got the number. The card is supposed to be announced tonight on CMLL Informa.

It seems like CMLL’s not doing Thunder/Ultimo Guerrero for the main event. Thunder’s having the singles match with Kraneo on 10/28 and some match with him is happening on Puebla on 11/02. Three singles matches in a short time would be asking too much. It seems more likely these are all practice runs for a December (or later) mask match. That seems to leave Sombra/Volador, but we’ll find out more later today.

As Chui keeps bringing up in the comments and I keep forgetting to bring up here, AG (Alex Garcia) Studios owns a piece of the ZZInc promotion doing the Que Vida La Rey tour of shows next month, and part of Lucha Underground. Maybe there’s a connection between those events and the shows? Maybe it’s just same people sharing resources? Maybe this is another indication that Rey’s going to LU? (Maybe they’re vaguely referred to Mexican investors that needed to be convinced LU was going to ever make money?)

Bio of Ciudad Victoria interview Dinky El Duende.

Segunda Caida reviews Espectro Jr., La Fiera, Satánico vs Black Magic, Love Machine, Último Dragón

Lineups

IWRG (SUN) 10/25/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Kanon & Omega vs Atomic Star & Picudo Jr.
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy vs Diablo Jr. I, Ram El Carnero, Vortize
3) Diva Salvaje, Freyser, Hijo del Pantera vs Apolo Estrada Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Oficial AK47
4) Golden Magic, Pantera, Súper Nova vs Canis Lupus, El Golpeador, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
5) Veneno © vs Heddi Karaoui [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
first defense

No Wednesday show this week. Karaoui probably the favorite to win this title because why not.

indy (SUN) 10/25/2015 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Desafio & Gato Fantasma vs Koko Viper & Potro Jr.
2) Ángel Dorado, Ninja Jr., Rico Rodríguez vs Baby Chavez, El Ninja, Obsesión
3) Diluvio Negro II, El Divo, Orquídea Negra vs Difunto I, Memo Valles, Vaquero Romo
4) Emperador Azteca (IWRG) & Metaleón vs Imposible & Roger Boy
5) Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro vs Galactar & Silver Star
6) Último Guerrero vs Caifan
7) Atlantis & Octagón vs Mr. Niebla & Satánico

Loaded up show going against Wagner vs LA Park vs Pagano in Arena Jose Suliman the same day. UG & Caifan will have all the chops.

CMLL (TUE) 10/27/2015 Arena México
1) Leono & Robin vs Apocalipsis & Cholo
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Shockercito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico
3) Blue Panther Jr., Delta, Fuego vs Okumura, Sangre Azteca, Virus
4) Rey Cometa vs Puma [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Dragon Lee, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Atlantis, Mistico, Titán vs Cavernario, Kamaitachi, Mr. Niebla

That main event is so close to being really good. I’m weirded out when Kamaitachi and Dragon Lee are in different matches. The CMLL recap heavily speculates about Okumura becoming a tecnico; he’s back to being a rudo.

Lightning match is the first Rey Cometa/Puma match in about three years. There’s been six of them announced and we only have results for three of them, but the only time Puma’s known to have beaten Rey Cometa in a singles match is the mask match. There’s very limited chance we’ll get to see that match.

CMLL (TUE) 10/27/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Nautilius vs Relampago & Thunder Boy
2) Frezzer, Magnus, Soberano Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Maléfico
3) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Thunder vs Kráneo
5) Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible vs La Máscara, Máximo, Super Porky

This card is an exhibit of CMLL having a lot of not good wrestlers. People who were never good, people were really quite good who are now no longer good, people who might be good if they still care, people put in positions where it’s impossible for them to be good. It’s really running the gamut of bad. There’s a lot of good wrestlers in CMLL but there’s a lot of guys who aren’t much good but also aren’t going anywhere.

The actual text lists “Maximo Sexy” as the name of the guy in the main event. Changing the name of a guy who’s been on top for 12 years and currently is heavyweight champion seems like an insane thing to do, but we just got Boby Z so who knows.

ELITE (THU) 11/05/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) ? vs ??
2) ? vs ??
3) Estrellita & La Vaquerita vs Chik Tormenta & La Pantera
4) Black Terry & Negro Casas vs Fuerza Guerrera & Satánico
5) Mr. Águila & Shocker vs Laredo Kid & Zumbi
6) Máximo & Místic 2.0 vs La Sombra & Rush

Bringing in Laredo Kid to put him against Shocker seems odd but whatever. The poster, commissioned and paid for by the promotion that is centered around Mistic 2.0, spells his name “Mistik 2.0” and everyone thought this was a good idea to send out. I give them six months.

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Mazatlan defeats Guadalajara, Sombra/Shocker, Que Viva el Rey tour

CMLL (SUN) 10/18/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Meteoro b Guerrero de la Muerte & Quca
2) El Yaqui & Nube Roja b El Chakal & Mr. Apolo
2v2 hair match challenges followed the match.
3) El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
Mr. Trueno snuck in a foul on Cuatrero.
4) Kempo Dragón, Mario Mora, Príncipe Kisho, Relámpago de Mazatlán, Terremoto King Jr. b El Divino, Frezzer, Magnum, Neutrón, Pepe Aguayo [cibernetico]
Guadalajara versus Mazatlan. Pepe Aguayo replaced Esfinge (double booked.) Match came down to Kisho and Divno, with Kisho cleanly winning with a casita for the visitors.

The best part of this week’s Super Libre was the Mazatlan guys making fun of Esfinge for working in Mexico City instead. The outsiders keep winning over the locals in the feud.

CMLL (MON) 10/19/2015 Arena Puebla [CMLL, me]
1) Asturiano, Centella Roja, Paris b Ares, El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 19 DE OCTUBRE DE 2015 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Flyer, Lestat, Star Jr. b Espanto Jr., Inquisidor, Molotov LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 19 DE OCTUBRE DE 2015 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3. Molotov feuded with Flyer.
3) Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Stigma b Kamaitachi, Nitro, Okumura LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 19 DE OCTUBRE DE 2015 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Stigma replaced Dragon Lee. Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero DQ Boby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Thunder LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 19 DE OCTUBRE DE 2015 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Boby Z replaced Rey Escorpion (who may be gone again.) Guerreros won 2/3, the last via Thunder foul to UG. Euforia & Gran Guerrero demanded a rematch.
5) Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible b La Máscara, La Sombra, Marco Corleone LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 19 DE OCTUBRE DE 2015 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3, Shocker blocking a casita on Sombra and hooking the ropes to stay on top for the pin. This set up a singles match between them next week.

Show was not very interesting and promised not so interesting things for next week. Opener was the best match on the show.

The Centella Roja moved older than a usual debuting luchador. There’s a Centella Roja and a Centella Roja Jr. who wrestle in Puebla. I would’ve assumed it was the son, but it looked more like the father. He did not look good.

The Guerreros were tecnicos last night, and are rudos tonight in Arena Mexico. Ultimo Guerrero, Euforia, Gran Guerrero take on Titan, Volador and Super Porky, with the preview focusing on Volador against Ultimo Guerrero. Zeuxis defends the national women’s championship against Princesa Sugehit earlier in the show, and seems likely to keep the title.

The opener, Angelico & Acero versus Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Violencia, will air live tonight according to CMLL. It’s said it’ll air on CMLL.com, but there’s no more info on it right now. The CMLL Cleeng site lists a sign up for tonight, but CMLL hasn’t made it clear you’ll need to sign up. We’ll see what happens.

A press release announced AAA & promoter Icon Star were working together for weekly Thursday AAA events in Zapopan (just outside of Guadalajara) running from 11/05 to 12/10. The press release mentions lucha libre classes and VIP access. AAA hasn’t said anything about this, but Joaquin Roldan is mentioned as talking at the press conference.

AAA did send out an interview with Pentagon Jr. pushing a tag title rematch. Maybe we can pencil that for Guerra de Titanes.

Box Y Lucha #3208 has Ciberentico saying he’s with AAA. Also, Mistic 2.0 stuff.

Luchas 2000 #795 has more Mistic 2.0 stuff, and also Sin Cara and Hijo del Santo. There must be some people who don’t follow lucha closely who were very confused by Mistic & Sin Cara being on the same cover.

MDA/FULL says the Mistic 2.0 show with no location on 11/15 will now officially be in Arena Jose Sulaiman in Monterrey. They’re giving presale access to people who come to their 10/25 show.

Elite Lucha Libre has a poster out for their 11/01 Guadalajara show. Laredo Kid, who’s been in AAA recently, is pictured.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and this week’s PosterMania.

RobViper has a music video of 05/05/15 CMLL.

Lineups

CMLL (MON) 10/26/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger, Centella Roja, Starman vs Hijo del Signo, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr.
2) Pegasso, Stigma, Tritón vs Cancerbero, Espíritu Maligno, Tiger
3) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Super Porky vs Felino, Hechicero, Negro Casas
4) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero vs Boby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Thunder
5) La Sombra vs Shocker

Shocker has never beaten La Sombra. That match probably won’t be so good.

Tercera has the right people to have a good match, and the right people to have a bad one. That’s a pattern on the show – second match has the best match to be decent.

DTU (THU) 11/05/2015 Arena Aficion
1) Erwin, Irving, Luigi vs El Maszito, El Porroito, Megra Liz
2) ?, Chica Ye-Ye, El Exótico vs El Chato, El Junior, Lady Maravilla
3) Hormiga vs Black Fire, Miedo Extremo, Aero Boy, Chico Che
4) Ángel o Demonio & Ovett vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako
5) Lanzeloth & Pesadilla vs Jimmy & Kevin
6) Drastik Boy, Suicida, Tony vs Flamita, Freelance, Rocky Lobo
7) Violento Jack vs Cíclope [Rancho de Texas, DTU CHAMP]

Flamita (and Drastik) returning back to DTU after Dragon Gate. That semimain should be good, and a pretty big match for Tony. Cara Lucha also announced Flamita on 11/07. Flamita was working tons of indies last time thru, and probably will be again when he comes back. He’s listed back in AAA on 11/056, which might affect who else is on this card.

ZZINC (SUN) 11/22/2015 Auditorio Jose Maria Morelos y Pavon, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
1) Rey Mysterio Jr. vs El Patrón Alberto, Blue Demon Jr., Johnny Mundo, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Drew Galloway, Brodus Clay, Dos Caras Jr., Fenix (AAA), Drago (AAA), Magnus, Willie Mack,El Mesías, Jack Evans, Angélico, Australian Suicide, Sonjay Dutt, Sanada, Steve Pain, Mickie James

This is one of a four new cards from this concert promoter that turned up recently. The Que Viva el Rey tour is currently 11/07 in Veracruz, 11/19 in Leon, 11/20 in Morelia, 11/21 Queretaro, 11/22 in Aguascalientes, and 11/27 in Merida. The 11/20-11/22 shows are extra interesting because Ricochet just implied he canceled off another indie show because he was working Lucha Underground that weekend, and there’s about 10 different people who worked Lucha Underground on booked in Mexico that weekend. This look like hard shows to cancel or postpone.

The Merida show lists Myzteziz on the poster, and the promoter said he’d still be appearing on that show. Maybe he will, but that would cause me to be less certain about the promoter.

It seems a safe bet to rule out any of those cities for Guerra de Titanes.

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CMLL Puebla: 2015-10-19 

Thunder is back!

Recapped: 10/19/2015

What happened: The Guerreros and Revolucinarios had a match, which will set up the same match next week. Shocker & Sombra had a trios match, which will set up a singles match next week. Centella Roja debuted. None of this was good.

What was good: None of this was good, are you paying attention? I liked the opener but others found it sloppy. The rest of the show was easy skippable

Where can I watch it? It’s on CMLL’s YouTube.

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CMLL to air Dia de Muertos show on cleeng (for a mystery amount of money)

I saw that still this morning, figured it was the same Dia de Muertos promo, and didn’t bother watching it. That was not the right move. CMLL announced they’ll be back on cmll.cleeng.com to stream the 10/30 (Friday) Dia de Muertos show.

You can not sign up right now. Right now, it’s a 10/20, 7:30pm show listed. CMLL separately announced the Tuesday opener will be streaming on the internet. This is that, and a test to see if whatever they’re doing will work for the PPV.

It’s unclear how much the iPPV will cost. The video doesn’t mention a price. The cleeng site gives the impression that it’ll be free, but that’s because it’s only showing the test broadcast. The last show was $10 USD plus fees.

It’s good for CMLL is trying this out whatever they’re doing it before doing it for ‘real’. It’ll help convince them if they can secure access. Most people, fresh off seeing the Anniversary show for free, will probably wait about 15 minutes into the Dia De Muertos broadcast to see if it’s also available for free. If it’s not, most of those will people probably just go onto do something else because it’s already 15 minutes into a show. The numbers for this show are going to be way down from last time, and not just because it’s no longer an Anniversary show. It’s the price of breaking trust.

It’s too bad, because these Dia de Muertes shows were visually interesting last and much more of a show than a normal Friday night card. They had big singles matches last year and might again this year. (Watch for an angle on Friday?) It’s a little close to the Anniversary show, but this show otherwise makes sense as a the sort of special attraction you could get people to pay to see.

CMLL hasn’t said anything besides the video. The thing I’m most sure about is CMLL announcers will spend the next week and a half plugging this thing between every single fall of every single match, so we’ll probably find out a little bit more on tonight’s Puebla show.

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