CMLL Puebla: 2017-03-13 

I love this cradle so much

Recapped: 03/14/207

Show Data: All matches aired live from Arena Puebla. You can view the show on their YouTube channel (and, as always but not always mentioned, some of the matches from this show will begin to air on 52MX two Saturday from now.)

Match Results:

Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel defeated Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Tigre Rojo Jr. (falls 2/3, 10:08 [6:17, 1:06, 2:45], OK)

La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis vs Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely (falls 2/3, 11:17 [5:39, 2:23, 2:51], OK)

Puma, Skándalo, Tiger beat Drone, Esfinge, Lestat (falls 2/3, 15:20 [5:10, 2:57, 6:12], OK)

La Máscara, Pierroth, Ripper beat Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Titán (falls 1/3, 7:48 [2:17, 2:20, 2:47], OK)

Atlantis, Carístico, Dragón Lee beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto (falls 2/3, 12:20 [1:52, 3:12, 7:18], OK)


Sanely had a tough day

Caristico beat Mephisto cleanly with La Caristica in the main event. (The Caristica is his Mistica; the announcers haven’t picked up on his move name change.) Caristico pointed out Mephisto had defeated him before, but felt he earned another title shot based on the win. Mephisto screamed to agree.

Pierroth pinned Diamante Azul in a third fall of a trios match, maybe for the first time.

Zexuis defeated Princesa Sugehit in a trios mask. She challenged for a title match. Sugehit agreed and raised it to a mask match. (They’re having a match, but not with any of those stipulations.

Espiritu Maligno & Policeman continue to feud, though Policeman also continues to win every single match.


noooo Ripper

Main event was a typical b-show trios main event, with the two guys feuding doing a lot and the other guys just doing about a minute each. Next week’s match could be good but this wasn’t.

It wasn’t until the semifinal where I realized one of the biggest matches of the year is going to be built around a front slam as a near fall. What a weird feud.

The tercera was alright, best match of the night, but never seemed to hit a high gear. There are better matches with those people. The important thing here is I’m tried of moves and sequences having no names and I’m going to start (resume?) assigning names to things until someone stops me. That Tiger/Puma trademark -cracker ending sequence? It’s now Muerto a Muerte in my notes, because they’re mauling the técnicos to death.

The women’s match was one of those which really make you fear for the future if/when Zeuxis leaves. The four supporting people in this match were not any good. Sanely’s whiff on a springboard was the ‘highlight’, but Seductora struggled noticeably all the way thru and the others weren’t saving thing. It’s to the point where it’s getting hard to put Zeuxis in a wider context; the gap between her and some of the others in this division is so wide, it’s hard to how much is her being really good and how much is the bar being so low.

Policeman suddenly having a nightstick to bring to the ring and deciding it was a good idea to hit Espiritu Maligno was strange. It did give us the great visual of Raziel & Policeman trying to keep Tirantes from calling the fall by showing Espiritu out of the ring while blocking Tirantes’ path. It didn’t work. Having Espiritu lose every fall is odd, maybe someone decided he was a mini wrestling in the main division.

Dragon Lee

AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-11 

new champion

Recapped: 03/13/2017

All matches taped 03/05/2017 in Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala. Full epsiode is on AAA’s channel.


Argenis [O], Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido beat Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra [X] (moonsault, 7:02, ok)

Super Fly defeated Bengala (powerbomb, 5:09, good)

Faby Apache beat Ricky Marvin © to win the AAA World Trios Championship (Chessman chair show→inside cradle, 4:32, good)

What happened:

a nice Abismo/Dinastia sequence

Faby Apache (and presumably Mary Apache & El Apache) are the new AAA Trios Champions. Faby won the titles for her team all by herself, defeating Ricky Marvin in an impromptu one on one match. Announcer Jesus Zuniga, as part of many moments on the show where he spoke for Vamprio, explained the scheduled Apaches vs OGT match was off because Apache was away with “personal issues” and Mary had been hurt in an accident. (One very short clip of Mary in ambulance was shown twice; it appeared to be something filmed from a previous angle being reused.) Averno – not Vampiro – proposed Faby put up her and her families’ career for a shot at ‘their dream’, the AAA trios championship. Faby accepted without hesitation, and won when Chessman accidentally hit Marvin with a chair. OGT seemed slightly upset with each other after the match, but not to the point of breaking up (at least yet.)

Super Fly defeated Bengala in another match announced by Announcer Jesus Zuniga as being a decision of Vampiro when Aerostar was ruled unable to compete. Super Fly earlier said he’d been looking all around for Vampiro to ask him about this match and could not find him anywhere. Everyone was certain Aerostar would still compete at Rey de Reyes, though Super Fly believed Aerostar wasn’t as much hurt as scared of him.

(AAA hyped both of these matches as if they would happen as scheduled during the show, a break from times where they’d give away the changes in the lineup screen.)

Texano Jr. visited the AAA offices in his own search to find Vampiro. He did not find him, but found a closet marked as Vampiro’s office. Inside was a note and a candle. The note explained Texano would have to defend his heavyweight title against Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner. Texano was displeased to read that, and more so when the light mysteriously blew out.

More La Llave de la Gloria footage was shown, with Villano coaching and in-ring highlights shown. Some of the eventual ‘winners’ in this round (Papillon, Douki, Hanaoka) got interview time, though the winners haven’t been announced on the show yet.

The Lucha Retro segment was on the first Relevos Mixicos de Locura match, as an innovative match part of AAA’s 25 year history

Carta Brava Jr., who talks to the son of the original who accompanied his fathers to all his matches. Calls out Argenis.

The técnicos won an atomicos opener.


moonsault looked better than the landing

Vampiro! Vampiro! VAMPIRO! Not five seconds afrer the opening mentioned, the announcers screaming about an announcement Vampiro made. Super Fly’s promo was tangentially about Aerostar ducking him, but pointedly about Super Fly not being able to find Vampiro. Bengala doing well in the match was about Vampiro putting him into that position. Vampiro was put over in the NotiAAA. Vampiro was specifically the one for knowing the Apaches weren’t there. Texano had to find Vampiro’s office and it was another Vampiro mystery, with Vampiro’s non appearance the real biggest story of the show. Vampiro!!!

This was way too much Vampiro. It would be way too much anyone. They sure seemed to set up Vampiro as the biggest and most important person on the show, which might even work in the short-term but doesn’t address any of their long term issues. There hasn’t been any show domination like this on AAA TV since Konnan and the Roldans were at their most visible, and even then it seemed to be split among them. This was all a lot of attention one one guy, including in some parts (like announcing the people who were missing the show) were it didn’t seem to be needed.

Vampiro not actually being on-screen, but being refereed to as some all-powerful Oz, doesn’t make it better. And Vampiro as a mysterious shadowy guy doesn’t work when we’re seeing him as just a normal wrestling dude in the La Llave de la Gloria segments. I’m guessing they purposefully lead the show off with that segment to get it as far away from the spooky message at the end, but those two concepts can’t really work on the same show together.

Maybe this was one just one weird taping and it’ll get better on a more normal show (or after they actually watch this show.) There are more changes on there than Vampiro. Both the Super Fly/Aerostar and Apaches/OGT feud got video packages to make it clear how things got to this point, and Super Fly got an actual in ring promo before a match. I’m sure this isn’t right, but it feels like Super Fy hasn’t done a promo since season 1 of Lucha Underground (and he seems much more confident in his role here than there.) The Apaches/OGT video package even made a note of Secta’s win last week, so it doesn’t just feel like a random outcome that was never mentioned again.

The Hijo del Tirantes deal deserves it’s own space. It’s clear this week that not only has he been told not to do rudo referee spots, everyone’s been told to treat him like he’d never done one. The announcers stay away from the obvious Faby/Tirantes issues and even Faby’s in the same spot. There was a moment in the Marvin/Apache match where the crowd that Faby got a three count. It was two, a fair two, the crowd was just a bit anxious to see her win, but any count where the fans disagree with Tirantes is usually a moment for Faby to get in Tirantes face for a reaction. She just moved right along this week. I’m really fine with no more rudo referee spots, it’s what I’ve wanted all along, but I still feel cheated there’s this years long story about Tirantes cheating Faby and the payoff is everyone agrees to never talk about it again. I’m cautious at asking for even more Vampiro, but there needs to be some in front of the camera bit where Tirantes is told to knock it off to mirror whatever’s clearly happened behind the scenes. Right now, we’re mostly expected to forget something that’s been a focus of the promotion for years.

Bengala sliding headscissors

The Super Fly/Bengala was the most effective match of the show, with Bengala looking good in a rare singles chance for him and Super Fly getting the clean win he needed. It lacked a bit in drama; Super Fly won on the first big move he tried, and Bengala never felt that close to winning. (A problem here is even I can’t remember what Bengala’s using as a finisher, it doesn’t come up much.) Super Fly seems much more comfortable as a rudo now than he even did a few years ago, and there’s reason to have hope for the mask match.

Faby/Marvin had drama, but the stakes didn’t mean anything. I don’t believe the fans really thought for a second Faby was at risk of losing her career, because she didn’t spend a second thinking about it herself. OGT freaked out about losing their trios titles for minutes, selling the idea it meant a lot to them. The crowd got into the idea of Faby defeating a man in a singles match, but the idea of winning titles for her not present family members didn’t mean anything. Remember, this match was never supposed to be a title match – it was a lumberjack match of all things – so everything about the stipulations for this match was strange in the recap and just as strange on TV. The one difference on TV is it came across like they were opening the door for the OGTs to be done soon. That’d be quick, it’d make sense to take the titles of them while they could, but I’m not sure. The match itself was alright and helped by the energy, with the short time making it feel like a midstoryline Lucha Underground match than anything AAA usually provides.

Super Fly/Bengala also felt different from what normally airs on TV, which was a nice change from the opening atomicos. That followed the same formula as usual, including the super rushed heel beatdown segment in the middle of the match. Everyone seemed motivated to work really hard, but that didn’t mean it looked all that good. Elegido was the leader in doing a lot without doing much well, but Argenis ending moonsault looked particularly poor. Big Mami seemed to get a lot more attention than Dinastia, a worrying development. Mami even got to do her comedy back bridge spot while didn’t get to do his cool one.

Lucha Underground on Netflix, Cometa keeps his title over the caveman

Cometa & Cavernario

CMLL (TUE) 03/14/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Fantasy b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Drone, Metatrón, Starman b Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Drone replaced Magnus. tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Esfinge, Fuego, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Olímpico, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Rey Cometa © b Cavernario [MEX WELTER] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cometa took falls 2/3 to win in a very good match. First defense after Cometa won the title from Cavernario last June.
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. b Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cometa & Cavernario is worth going out of your way to watch, as usual. It wasn’t as nuts as some of their matches but still pretty entertaining. Cometa winning is a nice surprise. In a better world, Cometa is defending this title against the Sagrado/Tiger/Pumas of the world, and Cavernario has a bigger title. In this world, I’m just happy to have this match.

Lucha Underground is on Netflix, if you are in the US, Canada or Latin American markets. (If you’re in places like the UK, Australia or Brazil, you’re still out of luck unless you want to run a VPN. Also, my secret shame is I’ve never subscribed to Netflix.)  It’s the first two seasons in HD, exactly as hyped on the day Lucha Underground said it’d be released. This is a good day for Lucha Underground. TV Insider has an interview with Johnny Mundo about what the show could mean for the series.

One surprise is there’s Spanish language commentary for both seasons. This bit leaked out yesterday afternoon – this article previewing the series mentioned there was second season Spanish commentary. I almost wrote something correcting it because, as well all know, Lucha Underground stopped recording sections in Spanish after they stopped airing on Unimas. Apparently, we (I) don’t know anything, because Season 2 does indeed have a second language track. It’s a mishmash: there’s voice actors dubbing over the parts of the wrestlers and for the on camera desk shots of Striker & Vampiro, and then Jose Manuel Guillen and Bernado Guzman of +Lucha taking over the actual play by play of the matches. I kind of want to see it to see how they’d call the bigger matches.

(aside 1: It was always a bit short sided not to continue recording segments in Spanish – this show probably needs to air in the native language of lucha libre if it’s going to succeed – but LU’s bank accounts are not infinite and it might have been a tradeoff to use that money on other things. Still, it seems like something that should come back in season 4.)

(aside 2: people think I do a lot of stuff. No, the +LuchaTV crew really does a lot of stuff. Jose is doing commentary for the English version of CMLL that’s airing in Canada and the Spanish version of AAA’s Lucha Underground, that’s a real rarity and would be busy enough for most people. That crew is also producing multiple video shows a week for their YouTube channel, doing a podcast, going to multiple shows and editing highlights packages, producing paid content, and probably ten other things I don’t even know about. It’s not just two guys, or two guys and one Monje, it’s a crew of people working on the project now who deserve to share in some of the credit, but the project is responsible for a tremendous amount of important lucha libre content. I don’t know how long it can last this way, someone big is going to notice what they’re doing and give them and offer just to work on their stuff someday, but +LuchaTV feels like the most irrepalacable part of the lucha libre landscape at the moment for how many different parts of it they affect.)

The Mistico & Stuka vs Sam Adonis and Ultimo Guerrero match in Orlando on 04/01 is off. This doesn’t affect the CMLL people appearing for Ring of Honor (and doesn’t have anything to do with ROH also using CMLL people.)

At the BARACAL show honoring the original Pierroth, he stated he approved of the new Pierroth using the name. This is the usual bit of a older luchador licensing his name out to someone else, which probably helps the original Pierroth given his medical issues.

Llaves y Candados announced in a video that their ColiseoMania 5 (04/09) top matches will be a main event of Garza, Rey Mysterio and Penta el Zero M against Nicho, Damian and Bestia, and a semimain of Zorro & Daga against Sammy Guevara and a international surprise. Rey Fenix was said to not be on the card this time due to other commitments.

Vampiro was interviewed by his local Thunder Bay paper about his new role with Lucha Libre FMV. He explains he was the perfect person for the position, and will still be spending time in his hometown doing community work and with his martial arts school.

Lector 24 interviews Black Terry, who calls himself a teacher and not a maestro – he helps people get better, he’s not perfect.

The latest +LuchaTV podcast has Texano, Demus and Iron Kid as guest. They’ve also posted Saturno vs Skyman from Cara Lucha, which is said to be really great.

Impact Wrestling has an article on Garza Jr. & Laredo Kid. Mostly Garza Jr., they can’t figure out anything about Laredo Kid because he’s a masked man. Their debut match airs tomorrow on Impact.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Segunda Caida reviews Hijo del Santo vs Negro Casas from 1997.

The FULL show this weekend in Cuernavaca drew 2,500.

Super Fly says Monterrey will see Aerostar’s face.

CMLL’s written a history of Homenaje a Dos Leyendas main events or at least the ones they feel like bringing up. FWIW,

Electrico, Silueta and Demus talk about their trip to Puerto Rico.


IWRG (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Shadow Boy vs Araña de Plata
2) Kanon vs Skanda
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Eterno, Hip Hop Man, Keshin Black, Vórtize [lumberjack]
4) Black Dragón vs Demonio Infernal
5) Heddi Karaoui, Relámpago, X-Fly vs Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Nigma
6) Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Killer Jr., Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Danny Casas, Hijo del Alebrije, Bobby Lee Jr., Silver King Jr., Argos, Diablo Jr., Hijo de Pirata Morgan [Rebelion de los Juniors]
winner gets a shot at the IWRG Junior de Juniors title, held by Herodes Jr.

Silver King Jr., Argos and Bobby Lee Jr. make appearances here to round out the all Junior elimination match. Fourth match is a rematch of a mask match.

CMLL (TUE) 03/21/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Cholo & Inquisidor
2) Magia Blanca, Sangre Imperial, Starman vs Nitro, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Virus [lightning]
5) Luciferno, Mephisto, Pólvora vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Once you get past the really not good first two matches, this is a pretty strong card. Maya/Virus is the eye catching match, but the maine vent has a good mix and the tercera has the Dinamitas against Blue Sr. and a couple of good stand-ins for his sons. The semimain rudo vs rudo match up only makes sense if they’re setting up the Casas family finally getting their – NAH.

CMLL (TUE) 03/21/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
***Homenaje a Dos Leyendas: Salvador Lutteroth & Ringo Mendoza***
1) Capitán Cobra & Fantástico vs Linterna & Mr. Apolo
2) Marcela, Silueta, Skadi vs Amapola, La Seductora, Tiffany
3) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Johnny Idol vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
4) Hechicero © vs Stuka Jr. [NWA LH]
5) Diamante Azul, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

Matt Taven is staying for more than just the weekend. Last week’s Caristico/Mephisto feud didn’t stay, with a sudden left turn into a Hechicero title match instead. That means the Hijos del Infienro might actually be giving up their titles on Friday before the Casas get that shot.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 03/26/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Baby Star, Dragón Negro, Magnético vs Demasiado, Pituso, Vengador Radioactivo
2) Demus 3:16, Mercurio (CMLL), Pierrothito vs Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid
3) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Totem I & Totem II
4) Puma (CMLL) & Tiger vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako
5) Black Terry & Negro Navarro © vs Hechicero & Virus [Arena Coliseo TAG]
2nd defense
6) Dragón Lee & Soberano Jr. vs Sádico & Sammy Guevara
7) Atlantis vs Último Vampiro

Full card for Chairo9 already. Atlantis vs Ultimo Vampiro is a unique match. Semimain could be outstanding. Title match should be fun too, because Negro Navarro appears to be a big Hechicero fan.

great match roundup, week of 2017-03-04

Inside the blog: I stayed up very late to finish the Martes post on Thursday, but didn’t switch from Draft to Scheduled so it was all for naught. Also, it’s a Martes recap so it’s always for naught. Maybe I’ll change things up a bit just to see if I can do this better.

Lot of good stuff and some “eh, good enough” stuff.

rating matches TV Show taped
good Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman and Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria AAA Worldwide en Cuautitlan Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Marzo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman and Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria (posted by thecubsfan) AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-04 2017-02-11
good Rush vs Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-06 2017-03-06
good Blue Panther Jr., Star Jr., The Panther vs Canelo Casas, Puma, Skándalo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-07 2017-03-07
good Blue Panther, Titán, Tritón vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-07 2017-03-07
good Fuego & Soberano Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado Fuego & Soberano Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-03-10 2017-03-10
good Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-03-10 2017-03-10
good Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-03-10 2017-03-10
good Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-03-10 2017-03-10

Other matches watched


Cometa/Cavernario tonight, Puebla results, Vampiro head of talent for LLFMV

triple dive

CMLL (MON) 03/13/2017 Arena Puebla [CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva]
1) Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel b Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis b Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Zeuxis challenged Sugehit to a title match for next week
3) Puma, Skándalo, Tiger b Drone, Esfinge, Lestat LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) La Máscara, Pierroth, Ripper b Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Dragón Lee b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Carsitico challenged Mephisto to a title match for next week.

Sounds like the third match is the one worth checking out. They stayed away from doing the trios title match next week. If they do the same in Guadalajara, the Infiernos might actually be giving up the trios titles.

Today’s Arena Mexicos show has Rey Cometa versus Barbaro Cavernario. It’s a solid bet to be great, every match they’ve had has been great. It’s for Rey Cometa’s Mexican Welterwerweight championship. It was Cavernario’s title, Cometa seems to have only won it to put doubt in the outcome of their hair match last year. That didn’t quite work, and CMLL’s done nothing with Cometa since, so this is probably Cometa’s last moment to have a great singles match for a while. He’ll probably wrestle like it, and Cavernario will be as crazy as usual. It should be a good time. If you’re a person who doesn’t like to watch the entire Tuesday Arena Mexico show, this match should take place after 10pm CDT (US).

It should be the main event. It’s not the main event, because a pointless Marco, Volador and Maximo versus Mr. Niebla, Terrible, Rey Bucanero trios is the main event. The crowd will like that match, but it seems likely to be a sub 10 minute rushed thru match because it will be hard to follow the title match. (It’s a Tuesday main event, so it might have been the same otherwise.) The fourth match is Angel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Guerrero Maya Jr. versus Vangellys, Olimpico and Sam Adonis. Triton, Esfinge, and Fuego against Virus, Misterioso and Sagrado. Magnus makes a streaming show, but with Sensei, Metatron, Arkangel, Nitro and Canelo Casas. Electrico & Fantasy take on Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Nitro to open the show.

CultIcon also previews the show. Like last night, the CMLL stream now starts an hour later, starting at 8:30pm.

Vampiro is now also the Head of Talent Relations for Lucha Libre FMV, Lucha Underground’s parent company, as part of the AAA side handling the wrestling end of the promotion. The job description is “scouting and development, live event coordination, and communication with leagues owners FactoryMade Ventures, Lucha Libre AAA and Promociones Antonio Peña, S.A. de C.V. in Mexico. He will also oversee Lucha Underground talent schedules, travel, and negotiation with 3rd party promoters.” What this means is anyone’s guess; we haven’t really seen anything come of Dorian Roldan being in put charge a couple months ago. In theory, you’d need to go thru Vampiro to booking Lucha Underground wrestlers, but they’ve been getting booked out on their own for years now. Vampiro would seem to be the point man in setting up live shows and seemed to be involved in that end already.

IWRG’s Dragon Fly says he’s heading to Japan soon, though he doesn’t say who he’s with or when he’s going. The Gladiatores also has an interview with Chicano, who introduces Tigre del Ring, Chabela la Atrevida and Atomo as part of his Chiwa Team (as luchadors from Chihuahua.)

Octagon says 2017 is the year he and Fuerza Guerrera will have their mask match, making this the 27th straight year where Fuerza & Octagon were definitely going to have their mask match.

California indie wrestlers Dicky Mayer and Adrian Quest saying they’re wrestling on DragonMania (which turns out to be May 27th this year.)

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

Paste Machine writes about Maximo.

+LuchaTV has a sit down with Diamante Azul.


CMLL (MON) 03/20/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Meyer, París, Vega vs King Jaguar, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr.
2) Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray, Zaeta Roja vs Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel
3) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis [lightning]
4) Lestat, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Kráneo, Luciferno, Morphosis
5) Diamante Azul, Mr. Niebla, Terrible vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Mephisto © vs Carístico [CMLL WELTER]
5th defense

I guess you can’t have a Homenaje a DOS Leyendas when they’re only honoring one; CMLL says this show will honor Salvador Lutteroth (and no one else.) Caristico just lost this title match in Arena Mexico and doesn’t seem to have much better odds in Puebla. The lightning match could set up a title match next week, or just go nowhere. Espiritu & Policeman remain on the show, on opposites of matches.

Lestat now escaping the locals opening matches two weeks in a row, and even while Stigma is around. And Morphosis is back for the first time since Histeria lost his mask. Morphosis is Histeria. I know I’m excited to see if CMLL will let someone who lost their mask put one back on. Hey, look, Pierroth.

new lucha videos for the weekend of March 10th, 2017

Last Sunday’s IWRG never aired; AYM and LAS just repeated the trainee show a few times instead. The only time I bother with Sobre el Ring is when I’m missing an IWRG episode, but that also seemed to be a repeat this week. Divinas de Lucha had AAA edecan Bere, FWIW.

YouTube: Playlist

03/11 & 03/12 WWC: Cloud Drive

CMLL on 2017-03-10
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-10 @ Arena México
1) Fuego & Soberano Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
2) Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
3) Stuka Jr. vs Bobby Villa in a lightning match
4) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
6) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-11
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-05 @ Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala
1) Argenis, Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido vs Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra
2) Bengala vs Súper Fly [no dq]
3) Faby Apache vs Ricky Marvin © for the AAA World Trios Championship

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-03-11
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-27 @ Arena Puebla
1) Fuego, Oro Jr., Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Puma
2) Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Mephisto
3) Carístico, Rush, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-03-13
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-03-12 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Pantera I & The Tiger vs Hip Hop Man & Relámpago
2) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © vs Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
3) Negro Navarro, Trauma II, Veneno vs Chicano, Danny Casas, Golden Magic
4) Herodes Jr., Silver King, Trauma I vs Imposible, Mr. Electro, Tigre Del Ring

lineups/results from Lucha Libre 89 to 100 added to the luchadb

a photo of El Santo from Lucha Libre 100

Still going thru old magazines, but sturck on the idea of adding any lineup/results I get every 10 issues. They were added on Thursday. I’m using my long forgotten tumblr account to post notes and snippets of issues if I see something interesting, though there’s not one there every week.

The biggest story around this time period is Mil Mascaras finally debuting in Arena Mexico. He’d been rejected for a license the year prior and had spend the time touring around Mexico. He’s immediately on top, teaming with the top tecnicos. Lucha Libre, who created the character and have been running ideas for his masks ever week for the last year, are strongly advocating for him as the soon to be greatest star of lucha libre. Interestingly, they’re saying that title goes from El Santo to Medico Asesino to Mil – Medico’s place in that linage has been forgotten as his promotion has faded into obscurity.

The Friday night shows are built around Rene Guajardo & Karloff Lagarde (as the lead rudos and team) and Ray Mendoza (as the lead tecnico, freshly promoted to that role), with others coming in and out. There’s a tease of a three way match, but instead Mendoza takes Lagarde’s hair on July 30th, and Guajardo avenges his tag team partner on August 20th. Both are said to be sell outs.

The strangest story to me is how Lagarde ends his seven year world welterweight championship reign. Huracan Ramirez wins the title for the first time in the now demolished Arena Isabel of Cuernavaca, on an anniversary show for the building. Except, Huracan doesn’t really win it as much as receives it, when Lagarde is disqualified in the third fall for excessive violence. Titles change hangs on DQs, so Huracan wins the belt because his opponent beat him too much. Such an odd way to do it, and they didn’t do it for a long reign – Lagarde wins the title back in the next few weeks after the ones I’ve covered here. Ramirez has a tour of Guatemala while he’s champion, maybe they simply wanted him to be champion while he was there.

You can see the ‘current’ Arena Mexico/Arena Coliseo lineups and results after the cut.


NGD stay champs in Guadalajara, Puebla preview

photo by Black Terry Jr.

CMLL (SUN) 03/12/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Black Sugar b Quca
2) Relámpago & Thunder Boy b Cosmos & Johnny Dinamo
3) Mágico & Metatrón DQ Évola & Gran Kenut
Evola unmasked Magico for the DQ.
4) Esfinge, Smaker, Tritón b Difunto, Espectrúm, Maléfico
5) El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón © b Explosivo, Omar Brunetti, Star Black [OCCIDENTE TRIOS]
In a surprise, the Dinamita kept the titles. Third defense.

That means the Dinamtias will probably be back on Sunday Guadalajara shows in the future (or those titles will just not be defended for two years, could go either way with Occidente titles.)

IWRG (SUN) 03/12/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)]
1) Cadilac vs Power Bull
2) Kanon b Vórtize
3) Átomo & Shadow Boy b Atomic Star & Chavela La Atrevida
debut for Chavela
4) Hip Hop Man & Relámpago b Pantera I & The Tiger
5) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © b Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera [IWRG IC TAG]
first defense
6) Chicano, Danny Casas, Golden Magic b Negro Navarro, Trauma II, Veneno
Golden Magic and Trauma II feuded.
7) Imposible, Mr. Electro, Tigre Del Ring DQ Herodes Jr., Silver King, Trauma I
Imposible was hurt and left the match in the first fall. Mascara 2000 Jr. just happened to be there (and in his gear!) so he replaced him. Silver King Jr. interfered to attack Mascara for the DQ.

Tonight’s Arena Puebla show has Atlantis, Caristico and Dragon Lee taking on the Hijos del Infierno in a rematch of last week. It seems like a setup to a trios title match, though they could pivot into it being for Mephisto’s title or just a non-title singles match. It does hint the Hijos del Infierno are both not winning the world trios title and not giving up their national titles (this has the markings of a thing we talk about for two weeks which goes nowhere), but we may have a better idea about that tonight.

The rest of the card is a mixed bag. The tercera has Drone, Esfinge and Lestat and Puma, Tiger and Skandalo. Skandalo’s not good, but he does seem to be less of a focus when Stigma isn’t in a match. This match comes off as if Lestat’s only getting this spot because Stigma isn’t around for whatever reason. The rest of the guys are good and could put together the best match of the night. The other stuff is not as interesting: another Diamante Azul/Pierroth trios in the semimain, a women’s tag match including some people who aren’t great, and an opening match focusing on the Espiritu Maligno & Policeman feud. They’re headed to a hair match soon, maybe as soon as next week.

CultIcon also previews the show. Tonight show starts four weeks of CMLL streams airing an hour later due to US starting Daylights Saving Time a month earlier than Mexico. That means tonight’s CMLL Puebla show will start 9pm locally, but 11 pm Eastern in the US, and 10pm Central.

On the latest Podcast Boom, Konnan claims AAA’s trying to get many veterans to join in. Konnan mentions the Mr. Aguila, Damian, Halloween, as he has on other podcasts, with the idea that the original Perros del Mal would be part of the group again to legitimize it. Konnan mentions LA Park, and Park has referenced rumors of him going to AAA on his Twitter (mostly on the idea he’d go if they gave him enough money, but it doesn’t sound close.) New Konnan claims this time is Maximo, La Mascara and Rush. Maximo’s had several times of coming close to leaving CMLL in the past, but has always been convinced to stay. (When he was in charge, Konnan himself was frustrated by these teases and said he’d no longer to talk to Maximo about coming to AAA after it fell thru last time.) Rush & La Mascara seem to have a lot of freedom in CMLL and would seem to have to be convinced AAA’s a much better deal. For what it’s worth, CMLL owns the rights to trademark for “Rush”. They filed for La Mascara in 2010 but it’s never been approved (maybe because other people used it longer before CMLL.) CMLL also files for Los Ingobernables in 2014, which hasn’t been approved yet. I don’t think there’s any real chance they’re going to AAA.

Dragon Rojo kept the CMLL Middleweight Championship over Delta in Arena Pavillon del Norte.

TKD reviews a disappointing July 11, 2015 Cara Lucha show.


CMLL (SAT) 03/18/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Mercurio & Pequeño Violencia
2) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Skadi vs La Comandante, Metálica, Reyna Isis
3) Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs El Cuatrero, Okumura, Sansón
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Matt Taven, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. vs Hechicero, Kráneo, Ripper

Matt Taven is sticking around at least all weekend. He’s also suddenly a tecnico, probably because he’s facing Ultimo Guerrero on Friday. Semimain should be really good. Okumura might be back from injury by this point.

CMLL (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena México
1) Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Robin vs Apocalipsis, Artillero, Inquisidor
2) Astral, Pegasso, Tritón vs Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
3) Drone, Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
4) Dragón Lee vs Niebla Roja
5) Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Terrible

Dragon Lee vs Niebla Roja on a not taped show for the second time. Opener might be a match Principe Diamante can win. Seems less likely for Astral.

CMLL (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. vs Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Black Sugar & Cosmos vs Destello & Gitano
3) Fantástico, Mágico, Tigre Blanco vs Évola, Linterna, Mr. Brisa
4) Difunto & Espectrúm vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
5) Magnum, Neutrón, Vaquero Jr. vs Frezzer, Furia Roja, León Blanco

Fantastico is a new name here (though there’s plenty of people who’ve used that name elsewhere.) Not sure why there’s a rudo vs rudo match, or if this is the old CMLL Tigre Blanco or if that name’s being recycled.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-03-07

Cometa & Cavernario

Recapped: 03/09/2017

What happened: Cavernario defeated Cometa in the main event to set up a title match between them next week.

What was good: I liked the third and fourth matches, and the main event was an effective set up for next week.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel. (more…)

Hijos del Infierno still champions, LA Park & Rush at it again

I haven’t seen this match yet, just tested the theory that I could pick a random spot and find something to GIF. (It took about 3 tries.)

CMLL (SAT) 03/11/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Camorra & Cholo b Leono & Retro
Retro replaced Marvel on Tuesday. It’s his first match in CMLL since May (when he was a rudo.) Rudos took 2/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Espanto Jr., Nitro b Astral, Oro Jr., Sensei
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Tritón b Sangre Azteca, Skándalo, Tiger
money thrown in.
4) Ángel de Oro, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. b Mr. Niebla, Sam Adonis, Terrible
tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto © b Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther [MEX TRIOS]
Hijos del Infierno took 2/3 to keep the titles. 10th defense.

CMLL’s recap says they’re still awaiting a ruling on if national trios titles will have to be vacant if the Hijos del Infierno win the world trios titles on Friday. They also say the rudos are probably winning, so they’re talking crazy. (The Hijos del Infierno are likely defending the natioanl trios titles on 03/19 in Arena Puebla.

BARACAL (SAT) 03/11/2017 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Ángel Del Amor & Mr. Leo b Centvrión & Violencia Jr.
Centvrion left on a stretcher.
2) Trauma I & Trauma II b Herodes Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
Trauma II was the surprise luchador (or just not cleared to wrestle when the card was announced.)
3) Hijo de LA Park & Hijo De Octagon b Hijo del Fishman & Silver King Jr.
Pierroth (Noberto Salgado) was honored after the match
4) Mr. Electro & Silver King DQ La Máscara & Pierroth
La Mascara replaced Dragon Lee.
5) LA Park DQ Rush
Rush fouled and unmasked LA Park, ref counted three before raising LA Park’s hand for the DQ win. Money thrown in.

+LuchaTV has already put up Rush vs LA Park, which is said to be very good. It doesn’t seem like anything else was worth seeking out. They drew about a half house, which doesn’t look great but is still a good number for an indie promotion running it’s first show. That would be the benchmark for The Crash’s first DF show in a vacuum, but coming in to the building AAA filled as the anti-AAA promotion changes the expectations greatly.

CMLL (SUN) 03/12/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Sangre Imperial & Starman b Apocalipsis & Artillero
2) Eléctrico, Robin, Último Dragóncito b Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico
Tecnicos took 1/3. Robin replaced Fantasy, unusually working as a mini.
3) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, Metálica, Zeuxis
tecnicas took 1/3, beating Zeuxis.
4) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol b Mr. Niebla, Terrible, Vangellys
tecnicos took 2/3
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone b Kráneo, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
Dragon Lee got revenge on Niebla Roja by unmasking him to pin.

They continue onto Dragon Lee & Niebla Roja. Maybe the singles match will be next week. We won’t know until later; the time change means the Saturday/Sunday lineups will be in Monday’s midday post instead of this one.

Black Terry Jr. has photos of the Saturday XMW show.

The Crash officially announced it’s alliances with Impact and NOAH. We’ll have to see if this leads anywhere before caring too much about it; it’s also hard to think of how many people work for either promotion who would be a big deal if they came to Tijuana. It’s probably more meaningful as a confirmation that other promotions thinking highly enough of The Crash to make deals with them, and that neither will be working with AAA going forward. Still no lineup yet for the 03/25 Crash show beyond the Young Bucks vs Daga/Rey match.

AAA’s posted this week’s TV show. The show ends with Texano finding a Vamiro mystery note. Vampiro explains not appearing in person on the taping was his idea – he wants to lean into buying a mysterious ghost/vampire character. (This is tougher to pull off when you’re normal Vamprio in the La Llave de La Gloria segments on the same show.)

AAA is getting a second TV show. Sort of. You may recall a couple shows called Zona Ruda during the holidays on Televisa Deportes in Mexico, pushing the TripleMania match and other AAA luchadors. The concept was successful enough to come back on March 27 at 10pm according to La Parka’s column.

Rey Fenix was announced for the Elite Night of Champions show in Aguascalientes show on 04/06. Elite, or what there is of it, and The Crash are the only two major Mexican promotions working together.

03/26 Lucha Memes (Chairo9) in Arena Naucalpan
1: Kamikazes del Aire (Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid) vs CMLL Rudo Minis (Pierrothito, Demus 3:16, Mercurio)
2: Totems (1 & 2) vs Traumas (1 & 2)
3: Puma & Tiger vs Corsario Negro & Drako
one singles match
two more tag matches
one more trios match

There are highlights of the The Crash show in Aguascaientes.

Ex AAA designer Oscar Garcia is now working with FULL.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

RobViper has highlights of Elite 06/25/16.

Ohtani’s Jacket reviews February 2000 CMLL and Satanico vs Tarzan Boy.

Segunda Caida reviews Aztec Warfare 3.

Will Ospreay beat Penta el Zero M in London, which I think means Dragon Lee is better than Penta el Zero M.