CMLL Puebla: 2019-08-26

one arm but still catches

Recapped: 09/04/2019

Matches:

Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. beat El Perverso & Fuerza Chicana
(14:25 [7:07, 4:44, 2:34], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Amapola & Tiffany beat La Jarochita & Lluvia
(10:24 [4:11, 2:48, 3:25], 2/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Flyer, Niebla Roja beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Templario
(12:08 [3:24, 5:40, 3:04], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico, Dragón Lee, Hechicero, Stuka Jr., Terrible, Último Guerrero, Valiente beat Dark Magic, Jay Briscoe, Kenny King, Matt Taven, Mecha Wolf 450, Okumura, Oráculo in a cibernetico match
(21:03, good,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  • 7:02 Stuka torpedo splash Okumura
  • 7:57 Valiente tequila sunrise Dark Magic
  • 8:44 Ultimo Guerrero super powerbomb Oraculo
  • 10:07 Matt Taven frogsplash Terrible
  • 11:01 Kenny King kick to the head Stuka Jr.
  • 11:58 Dragon Lee reverse huracanrana
  • 13:58 Jay Briscoe Jay Driller Hechicero
  • 15:36 Mecha Wolf 450 splash Valiente
  • 16:33 Ultimo Guerrero front superplex Jay Briscoe
  • 18:10 Matt Taven Climax Dragon Lee
  • 18:59 Ultimo Guerrero Guerrero Special Mecha Wolf
  • 19:55 Matt Taven frog splash Ultimo Guerrero
  • 21:03 Caristico top rope senton con giro Matt Taven

Místico beat Soberano Jr.
(12:20, 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Mistico half crab (1:26)
  2. Soberano tornillo (0:27)
  3. Mistico La Mistica (10:27)

What happened:

Taven cleans out Dragon Lee

Soberano returned from the Super J Cup with no trophy but a giant brace on his left shoulder instead. He wrestled much of the match with his left arm tucked in and not operational, which may be a bit of the reason behind the short falls. Soberano’s checked on after a Mistico dive but allowed to continue, then needs medical attention once again following the finishing La Mistica.

Dr. Karonte’s memory is honored with a moment of applause before the match starts. Big Daddy was scheduled to be in this match, wasn’t here, and so Rey Bucanero just happened to get in a shoving match with referee Edgar which led to his ejection to even the sides.

Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja challenged for another tag title match, which the Guerreros accepted.

Thoughts:

Mistico/Soberano was good considering the situation and the limitations of the wrestlers but I’m not sure I’d consider it a good match overall. The first two falls were so nothing and the third fall sort of turned into indie highspots lucha clichés for lack of anything else to do. They got more out of it than they should’ve with Soberano working with one arm, but it came as sort of a lesser mimicry of the good Dragon Lee matches than anything interesting on its own. They were also not capable of weaving the shoulder injury into the story, with it only coming up on by accident on La Mistica. This was still good effort but I’m not sure it’s something to go out of your way to see except for the weirdness with the injury.

Flyer around a coupleof times

I’m watching things wildly out of order since the actual Gran Prix seemed more important in the moment. The review of that won’t pop up until after this, but the grade is about the same as the cibernetico here. This one is only 20 some minutes with a hotter crowd for most of the way. The Arena Mexico version if more relevant, but this is just about as good. Oraculo’s bump off Ultimo Guerrero’s powerbomb was crazy and I’m surprised they didn’t repeat that on Friday; there’s a lot here not repeated later and not just because there are slightly different guys. Matt Taven came off the best of the foreigners and I wonder if he would’ve won if not for Caristico’s father passing away.

The Guerreros had a fun trios match that weirdly died off in the last stretch as if everyone had used their energy up and they could only wander thru the comeback and the tecnicos winning. It seemed more the tecnicos since the rudos were busy jumping around everything into the finish. The tag title match is surely better, you don’t need to go back to see this.

Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. wore matching shirts and did some of their team work, but something still seems off between them. They were better coordinated than their rivals but didn’t appear to be friendly. They’re also slower than they used to be. Perverso doing lariats was amusing but otherwise I have no idea why a rudo/rudo match had to happen.

lucha TV preview for weekend of September 13th, 2019

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This appears to be the final week of Nacion Lucha Libre airing new matches. There’s just three left to air for the last taping. There’s no next taping announced; their internal schedule had them running in Puebla this weekend. Wrestling shows have gone into reruns and come back before. I wouldn’t bet on it here.

Volador vs Casas should be good on CMLL Marca.

AAA has a PPV on Fite, not sure if it’s come up.

great match roundup, week of 2019-08-17

flying Euforia

recaps

A desperate catch up begins! This is behind because of travel and going to wrestling shows I liked, as opposed to this stretch of CMLL. One good match in three shows is something.

The first of the two RIOT shows fits in this time period. Aramis/Latigo, whenever it turns up, is worth going back to check out from the first night. I liked both shows, the second show fits in the next week (and that gives me something to talk about beyond CMLL shows.)

All 2019 round-up posts2019 MOTYC list

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
good Ángel de Oro, Místico, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-08-23 2019-08-23

Other Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stigma vs Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Tiger LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-19 2019-08-19
ok Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-19 2019-08-19
ok Cuatrero, Forastero, Místico, Sansón vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-19 2019-08-19
ok Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Okumura, Sagrado, Virus LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-20 2019-08-20
ok Kráneo, Stuka Jr., Volcano vs Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-20 2019-08-20
ok Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. vs Dark Magic, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-20 2019-08-20
ok Carístico vs Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-20 2019-08-20
ok Sonic & Súper Astro Jr. vs Espíritu Negro & Hijo del Signo LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-08-23 2019-08-23
ok Átomo, Gallito, Microman vs Chamuel, Guapito, Perico Zakarías LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-08-23 2019-08-23
ok Audaz, Flyer, Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Hijo del Villano III LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-08-23 2019-08-23
ok Volador Jr. vs Sansón in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-08-23 2019-08-23
ok Cavernario, Diamante Azul, Último Guerrero vs Ciber the Main Man, The Chris, Valiente in a relevos increíbles match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-08-23 2019-08-23
not rated Asturiano, King Jaguar, Meyer vs Centella Roja, Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-19 2019-08-19
not rated Arkalis, Meyer, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs El Malayo, Hijo del Signo, Toro Bill Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-19 2019-08-19
not rated Angelito & Fantasy vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-20 2019-08-20
not rated Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante vs El Coyote, Grako, Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-08-20 2019-08-20

AAA NY/Space, Shocker, ROH/CMLL, Marcela title match determined

pictured: a match being made

There’s some AAA Invading NY news. It’s still not the full lineup. The show will air live on Space TV in Mexico, starting at 6 pm. It was already announced as airing on Azteca next Friday. Far more people are going to see this show on Space (and Azteca) than will on FITE.

The Space thing is interesting for me because there was a brief instant this morning where I thought I finally knew who was announcing this show in English. WON mentioned Hugo & Striker were announcing the show, which I thought meant in English since Striker doesn’t do Spanish commentary. Maybe the WON just meant they’d be there, but then there’s still no idea of who’s going to be working with Striker. Vampiro hasn’t indicated he’s part of this show as of yet.

Konnan’s Keepin it 100 also had some talk about the AAA Invading NY show. Kevin Kleinrock brought it up as AAA going to MSG and it was Konnan who shot that down. He noted they’re not going to the actual MSG, which meant the show is a personal disappointment. “There were a lot of factors why we couldn’t go there”, though none are specified. Moving it from MSG to the Hulu Theatre has scaled down the type of show they wanted to do. It’s also taken longer than they were expecting to get visas approved, so people who might have been on the show when it was originally conceived have been left off for one reason or another. Konnan said there are three wrestlers from Impact to be added, believing one of them was Sami Callihan. Callihan’s usual partners, Jake & Dave Crist, would make sense as the others but it’s not even hinted at.

The AAA in Puebla show was happier news. Konnan calls it a sellout. It seemed like the upper reaches of the building were a bit empty on Twitch. He feels the new Abismo & Octagon were nervous but got over well. He felt like those two and Bengala will big parts of the future of the company. Konnan expected to debut a couple of more new names and couple of minis as well.  AroLucha as comes up in passing. Konnan’s heard they’re still working on a deal, and has heard the same story for the last few months.

Shocker quietly disappeared from CMLL cards in May and hasn’t been on social media since around that time. He wasn’t seen around his food truck either, which led to a fair bit of wondering about what had happened to him now. Planchitas writes today that Shocker is in a rehab center and expected to stay for six months after falling off the wagon again. That would mean he’d be back out around Christmas. The rumors going around were “rehab” or “jail”, so ending up in rehab was the better option. Shocker’s battled alcoholism for years and had some strange public incidents which seem linked to it. He’s mentioned in interviews that his addiction issues grew around the short time he jumped to AAA, becoming so bad that he doesn’t even remember much from that year. It’s been a frequent issue since then, affecting him greatly professionally and personally. This isn’t his first trip to rehab and hopefully he’s able to learn enough to manage the situation better this time. I imagine it’s especially tough having an alcohol issue around lucha libre, where beer is everywhere.

CMLL’s Anniversario is a couple of Fridays away. CMLL’s been quiet on how it’ll stream live or if it’ll stream live at all. That’s typical for them; it sounds like they haven’t even told Claro yet about their plans. The Gran Prix was a delayed VOD and that’s still the best guess for the Aniversario. You will have another option: Ring of Honor is planning on adding the show to their Honor Club service on VOD. It’ll be a few day delay – ROH’s PPV and TV taping that weekend would take priority – but it is expected to be available early the following week. It will have English commentary, which seems like it’ll be the first time that’s been offered for a CMLL Aniversario card (but I need to research that; it’s aired in Japanese on both SamuraiTV & NJPW World.) The CMLL/ROH partnership seems to be growing. If Rush wins the Ring of Honor Championship on the upcoming PPV, expect CMLL to air footage of that title match.

In a minor note, Planchitas is critical of CMLL for not supporting Shocker and mentions he was offered a mystery spot on a July 2018 Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera show that he turned down. That was the first AAA vs ELITE show and the mystery spot was probably the main event ELITE spot that went to Puma King instead. It worked out for Puma great but I’m not sure Shocker would’ve had the same success. Shocker’s been one of the least mobile wrestlers in CMLL and the least mobile people in AAA have been weeded out over the last year and a half. I’m not sure working CMLL Tuesday shows is all that much better than ELITE barely running shows but it does seem like work.

CMLL’s been talking about Marcela defending the CMLL World Women’s Championship in Japan on 09/15 for a while, mostly in how it may affect the Aniversario card. They hadn’t named a challenger; AAA isn’t the only people apparently having trouble announcing matches. That challenger was announced today as Tsukushi, a 22-year-old wrestler who’s wrestled for Ice Ribbon in the past. She’s also worked in the past for REINA, and CMLL Lady’s Ring appears as if a restart of that promotion. I know nothing about her but people seem excited for her. Wikipedia also indicates she may have attempted to stab someone in the distant past, which sounds cool. It’s unlikely she’ll defeat Marcela but challenging for the CMLL’s Women’s Championship often leads to a CMLL visit. Tae Honma, who was in CMLL previously, faces Dalys on that show. Both Dalys & Marcela seem to be working for plenty of other promotions while they’re around Japan for about a week.

10/05 The Crash in Auditorio de Tijuana

The CMLL vs Hart Foundation match will not air on MLW TV. The Crash should probably ask to release it themselves. (They probably won’t.)

MLW announced Septimo Dragon has signed to a multi-year deal. Septimo worked on their most recent taping and Konnan talked about him as someone he’d wanted to work for a while. Dragon started out in Guanajuato, which has not been a hot bed of wrestling in recent years, and did what looks like a good of making connections to work in wider and wider areas. He’s been a regular for Mucha Lucha Atlanta that last couple of years and turns up on a lot of smaller US lucha libre shows.

Magnus & Black Danger (returning to his MLW name of Mega Danger) also worked the most recent MLW show. There is no mention of their status with the promotion. Magnus may be on break from CMLL. There was a story he was relocating to Texas for family reasons earlier this summer, but then he just kept on appearing on CMLL cards. He hasn’t been on a CMLL lineup since mid-August, so he might have made that move.

Ultimo Guerrero says the Aniversario final he wants to see is Negro Casas vs Big Daddy, with Casas winning. Casas would like to face Guerrero in the final.

Microman wants Guapito as the referee for his mask match and KeMonito as his second. Microman’s talked about KeMonito seconding him so often that it’s going to be weird if it doesn’t happen.

Karis La Momia Jr. says he’s focused on forging his own story right now, not following his father or getting into a feud with the LA Park kids.

Lineups

CMLL (SUN) 09/15/2019 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Kristal & Silueta vs Aradia Bartok & Valkyria
2) Fugaz, Johnny Dinamo, Principe Daniel vs Bobby Black, Demonio Maya, Mr. Apolo
3) Explosivo, Joker, Reycko vs Difunto, Rey Trueno, Sádico
4) Neutrón vs León Blanco [super libre]
5) Atlantis Jr., Gallo, Omar Brunetti vs Exterminador, Hijo del Villano III, Maléfico

Gallo & Brunetti are back under new (still unknown) management. I thought the Neutron/Leon Blanco mask match would be on this show but maybe they’re saving it for later in the month.

I may be getting names confused, but I believe Aradia Bartok is one of a couple of Arena Coliseo Guadalajara edecanes who trained to wrestle and have been working indie shows the last few months. Going from being an edecan in an arena to making your wrestling debut feels like it should be a big story (or a good way to do angle.) Women’s matches have been a rarity on these Sunday shows.

CMLL (MON) 09/16/2019 Arena Puebla
1) Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Ares, Black Tiger, Policeman
2) Lluvia, Sanely, Skadi vs Amapola, La Metálica, Tiffany
3) Rey Cometa, Stigma, Tritón vs Okumura, Olímpico, Perverso
4) Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Flyer vs Hijo del Villano III, Templario, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Místico, Terrible vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Soberano Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

Last week, this feud was Dragon Lee/Volador. This week, this feud was Casas/Terrible. Maybe it’ll end up back as Mistico/Soberano next week.

Triton is listed. He won’t be there and CMLL knows he won’t be there. They probably should send someone else, they probably won’t send someone else.

AAA , ELITE (FRI) 10/04/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Faby Apache & La Hiedra vs Diosa Quetzal & Rossy Moreno
2) Niño Hamburguesa & Pimpinela Escarlata vs Chico Che & Diva Salvaje
3) Carta Brava Jr. & Mocho Cota Jr. vs Imposible & Tritón
4) Joe Lider & Pagano vs Drako & Wotan
5) Argenis, Máscara de Bronce, Myzteziz vs Dr. Karonte, King Balam, Verdugo
6) Murder Clown & Psycho Clown vs Trauma I & Trauma II

AAA started posting the matches from the August Zumpango ELITE show on their YouTube channel. It probably should’ve been a clear indication they were going to keep running, as this lineup followed a bit after. There’s a lot of indie shows in Arena Naucalpan. This doesn’t seem particularly strong, but it does have Psycho Clown. The Lider/Pagano vs Drako/Wotan match is going to be something. Triton makes his debut as an “ELITE” luchador; I’m surprised Sangre Azteca isn’t there as well. I’m not sure if this is a new Mascara de Bronce or the old guy returned after a short departure.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-08-23

Mistico (& Euforia)

Recapped: 08/28/2019

Matches:

Sonic & Súper Astro Jr. beat Espíritu Negro & Hijo del Signo
(12:58 [6:33, 3:16, 3:09], 1 DQ/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Chamuel, Guapito, Perico Zakarías beat Átomo, Gallito, Microman
(5:16 [2:46, 2:30] , 1/2, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Hijo del Villano III beat Audaz, Flyer, Titán
(17:45 [5:25, 5:13, 7:07], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Volador Jr. beat Sansón in a lightning match
(7:28, DQ for foul, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Místico, Niebla Roja
(15:02 [6:03, 3:27, 5:32], 1/3, good,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cavernario, Diamante Azul, Último Guerrero beat Ciber the Main Man, The Chris, Valiente in a relevos increíbles match
(9:37 [2:11, 3:03, 4:23], 2 DQ/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Sonic around into a headscissors

This show felt like a backdrop to copious shots of the Gran Prix banners. It grew past distracting to annoying.

In the second fall, Ciber tried using The Chris’ cane, only for Edgar to take it away. Ciber tried to sneak in a foul while Edgar was dealing with it, only Ciber is slow and Edgar turned around in time to see it and call the DQ. The third fall finished while Ciber & UG were on the outside after a UG dive. There were no mic challenges.

Rudos sneak attacked Microman. Zacarias had a plastic water jug for some reason. Guaptio distracted referee MicroAngel from a Microman winning pin and Chamuel pulled off Microman’s mask to get the win. Microman and Guapito agreed to a singles match next week.

The rudos picked up an inexplicable excessive violence DQ in the start of the first fall of the opener. It appeared to be intended, though it came out of nowhere.

Thoughts:

Ciber getting out of the way

The main event could be worse, there’s been plenty of Ciber/UG matches that have been worse, though it’s only OK because the standards are so low. Seeing a fully tecnico Barbaro Cavernario was fun. Diamante Azul and Valiente on opposite sides would’ve been big if anyone cared about their tag team from just a few months, but I didn’t get the sense it did. Ending with no direct finish between UG and Ciber was very strange.

The semi-main was a lot of Gran Guerrero & Euforia doing their good tag team bits, including the same finish from the tag title match. I hope they’re inspired to change it up and don’t see it as a traveling show but it was still really well done here. Mistico & Terrible were feeling it too and it made for a more fun tag match than usual for this position.

I was a little disappointed by Volador versus Sanson. The action was there but the pace was slow. Pompin’s counts don’t help. Sanson’s injuries might also have been a reason. Ending on a random foul was a bit flat.

one more headscissors GIF

I watched the tercera, and then I went back and watched it at faster speed a couple more times because it was missing something and I still couldn’t really put my finger on it. Titan did his usual sequences, and Forastero & Cuatrero operated well as a two man team, and I guess there wasn’t really more than that. Hijo del Villano III feel really into the background; he doesn’t really have established stuff to do in every match like the Dinamitas have, and they just rolled on without him for the most part. It’s a good thing Audaz is a former cat because it took that sort of feline luck to land on his feet after his ramp running spot went wrong. It wasn’t a real strong match for him and I can’t recall much Flyer did outside of dives.

The Micros match was more of angle, with the tecnicos doing little until it was time for a finish. There was an Atomo dive that was a noble effort that didn’t get caught well by Guapito. There wasn’t a lot more. This served a purpose, CMLL actually did the singles match they set up, but you might as well watch that singles match instead.

I don’t know what the deal was with the opener. The first fall DQ was warranted because they shoved the referee but seemed a giant escalation out of nowhere. They did stage dives after the tecnicos had been beat up for a fall and a half in a way that didn’t seem to fit the match at all. The rudos then stayed in control to start the fall, if only because Astro’s spots required the rudos to do stuff to him, but in a way that didn’t feel natural. The “lucha libre doesn’t make sense” bit is usually said by people who can be quickly ignored but a lot of this didn’t fit together. Espiritu Negro is better than Signo, making Sonic look more fun than Super Astro Jr. for the first time. Sonic’s not bad but having someone who could take his headscissors (even if a little slowly) helped.

CMLL Mexico: 2019-08-20

nope

Recapped: 08/28/2019

Matches:

Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro beat Angelito & Fantasy
(13:10 [5:25, 3:49, 3:56], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

El Coyote, Grako, Nitro beat Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante
(12:09 [6:03, 2:19, 3:47], 1/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL

Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa beat Okumura, Sagrado, Virus
(17:28 [6:07, 4:29, 6:52], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Kráneo, Stuka Jr., Volcano beat Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
(14:17 [4:19, 6:43, 3:15], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. beat Dark Magic, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(8:45 [2:04, 2:12, 4:29], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico beat Terrible
(12:39, 2/3 DQ, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Terrible Clash (2:00)
  2. Caristico double arm cradle (3:04)
  3. DQ Terrible (7:35)

What happened:

La Comandante blocked a Caristico dive and was seemingly ejected by Rambo but stuck around. Maybe it was just a warning. Terrible unmasked Caristico for the DQ.

Rey Cometa crashed and burned on a headscissors attempt to the floor to end the tercera. He needed medical attention but was wrestling again a few days later.

Thoughts:

everyone lived

The main was a simple match worked for the tourist crowd, with Terrible being totally evil and dominating the match until heroic Caristico made his comeback. They didn’t do anything too complicated and still got the reactions they wanted out of a Tuesday crowd. It would’ve worked fine with an actual finish and felt flat ending on a mask pull instead.

Negro Casas can rescue a match only so often, leaving a lot of parts that didn’t quite work well with each other. Niebla tried his best with Soberano. I’m concerned Dark Magic tried his best with Dragon Lee, because they didn’t trust him to do anything much.

The idea of putting an inexperienced guy in a high position quickly is to make them a bigger star and have them work with more talented people for them to improve quickly. Neither is happening with Volcano, who had an embarrassing second fall stretch more normally found in a local indie. Stuka & Hechicero are usually great with each other and were much better than any other combination here.

There wasn’t much energy in the tercera and then Rey Cometa took himself out in the end so maybe you can skip that one easy. Really, if Cometa was going to get hurt in this match, I would’ve guessed it would’ve been on Sagrado’s terrible looking slam. Sagrado was good as a rudo at one point but I don’t know about now.

CMLL sets up Volador/Cavernario (Mexico) & Dragon Lee/UG (GDL) for next Tuesday, Cain/AAA

Adios Ticos

CMLL (TUE) 09/10/2019 Arena México [CMLL, Lucha CentralThe Gladiatores]
1) Pequeño Nitro & Pierrothito b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Disturbio, Espíritu Negro, Nitro b Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Pegasso, Star Jr., Stigma b Ares (Costa Rica), Escualo (Costa Rica), Kaiser (Costa Rica) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Rey Cometa b Pólvora [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rey Cometa won in 8:13.
5) Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys b Flyer, Kráneo, Stuka Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
6) Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla DQ Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cavernario faked a foul from Volador, setting up a singles match.

Rey Cometa talks about ending Polvora’s “win streak” and Barbaro Cavernario & Volador Jr. set up next week’s match. Sounded like a regular Tuesday show.

CMLL (TUE) 09/10/2019 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Mágico, Metatrón, Rielero b Exterminador, Maléfico, Ráfaga
tecnicos took 1/3?. Exterminador’s first match here since May.
2) El Coyote, Hijo del Signo, Sádico b Arkalis, Joker, Retro
rudos took 1/3
3) La Jarochita, La Maligna, Sonya b Amapola, La Metálica, Reyna Isis
tecnicas took 2/3, setting up a Jarochita/Metalica title match
4) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Diamante Azul, Dulce Gardenia, Soberano Jr.
rudos took 1/3.
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja
rudos took 1/3, UG stealing Dragon Lee’s mask to pin him. That set up a UG/Lee match.

Ultimo Guerrero and Dragon Lee would be a first time ever match. Dragon Lee has talked about wanting to face different people and it does seem like there’s a CMLL effort to accommodate that wish. Not sure if they have enough different people for it to last though.

Killer Kross talked to Sporting News about his current issue with Impact. He confirms he was booked on the New York show and then was unbooked once Impact came aboard. Kross says he’s spoken with everyone in AAA and he remains on good terms with them.

(Impact coming aboard the AAA NY show late is still confusing. Did AAA not know they needed a New York wrestling license until late? Did something else fall thru?)

Yesterday, Cain Velasquez was on ESPN’s Ariel Helwani’s MMA show. A lot of the lucha libre stuff had been talked about in previous appearances, though Velasquez gives credit to Psycho Clown for helping him learn the headscissors spots he did at TripleMania. He learned them the night before. Velasquez seemed to say his deal with AAA includes the provision that he can’t wrestle (or fight) anywhere else until after the LA show. That’s a pretty sweet deal for AAA.

At the end of the interview, Ariel asked him where he could watch the AAA in NY show. Cain Velasquez explained it would air on Twitch and free in Latin America. That’s how TripleMania aired and how most AAA shows are airing, but the AAA in NY (and LA) shows are airing on FITE TV for $30. Some goofball on Twitter last night pointed out AAA’s done a typically poor job of advertising this fact. In a remarkable coincidence, AAA started mentioning the PPV and RT-ing Fite’s mentions of the show today. There’s still not a lot of awareness about that showing being a PPV and not being on Twitch; maybe AAA ought to do some programming on Twitch Sunday to let people in the US know they need to buy it and to let the Mexican fans to know it won’t be airing until next week), if that’s allowable under their deal with Twitch.

The plan with this AAA show in NY was all along to get a strong walk-up. That needs some word of mouth in the area. Cain doing interviews this week is part of that plan. It’s a good start. Hopefully there are a lot more interviews this week if AAA is trying to attract a big crowd; Demon or Wagner or Taya should be in New York all weekend. From the outside, the AAA NY show instead feels like something AAA was very interested in first and now is doing just to count it among the accomplishments they’ve done, not because they’re particularly invested in making it a success. That’s probably not the case on the inside, there’s likely a cavalcade of people working hard so the AAA show comes together, but there are pieces missing on the promotional side. Today is Wednesday, nearly half the matches for Sunday are still not announced. There is apparently a card – Adrian Mendoza mentioned it looked good, Dave the Clown says he’s on the show, I guess both of those statements could be true – but it’s still not announced nearly 24 hours after that tweet saying it existed.

The producers of the upcoming documentary about Perro Aguayo mention they never got to talk to Perro Aguayo himself, despite working with the family on the film.

EMW as advertising Tiago on their 09/27 show representing AAA. The former Mini Charly Manson was with the Crash as recently as their July show.

Dark Scoria has opened a wrestling school in Durango. The cost is 50 pesos a week or 200 per month.

Hidalgo’s Jaguar Azteca has opened a burger restaurant.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and this week’s Lucha Report.

Lineups

IWRG (SUN) 09/22/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Chicanito vs Avisman
2) Puma de Oro & Shadow Boy vs Death Metal & Neza Kid
3) Atomic Star, Auzter, Mexica vs Ra-Zhata, Shil-Kha, Toshiharu
4) Dinamic Black, Freelance, Halcón Negro Jr. vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro
5) Capo del Norte & Capo del Sur vs Herodes Jr. & Hijo de Pirata Morgan and Black Warrior Jr. & El Hijo del Medico Asesino and Demonio Infernal & Eterno
6) Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible, Relámpago, Séptimo Dragón, Súpernova, The Tiger vs Ave Rex, Heddi Karaoui, Hip Hop Man, La Mosca, OT Fernandez, Zumbi

Hip Hop Man posted this one a bit early because it’s Hip Hop Man’s return from injury. (Unless he’s the mystery guy on the Argentina team this Monday.) The new evil ninja turtle will make a second appearance. If I know IWRG undercard gimmicks, there’s no telling if he’ll make a third.

CMLL Puebla: 2019-08-19

everyone slide kick

Recapped: 2019-08-27

Matches:

Centella Roja, Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis beat Asturiano, King Jaguar, Meyer
(13:36 [5:39, 3:24, 4:33], 1/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL

El Malayo, Hijo del Signo, Toro Bill Jr. beat Arkalis, Meyer, Tigre Rojo Jr.
(12:41 [6:42, 2:57, 3:02], 1/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Hechicero, Máscara Año 2000, Tiger beat Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stigma
(17:05 [6:18, 3:38, 7:09], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente beat Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
(10:11 [4:02, 2:17, 3:52], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Místico, Sansón beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match
(8:10 [4:07, 4:03], 1/2 DQ, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Mistico tossed his mask to Soberano Jr. when Los Guerreros had the second fall won. Edgar called the DQ. Soberano & Mistico continued to fight post matches, setting up a singles match

Thoughts:

Asturiano armdrag

The main event was the most exciting match on the show, with Soberano & Mistico clearly enjoying the chance to go at each other and Mistico getting to play rudo. It just really wasn’t a long match and the two trios existed mostly to set up the match-turning points without getting to develop much on their own. There’s a really satisfying 18-minute match possible and they got 40% of it here.

The other third and fourth matches were fine and not memorable. Stuka is trying to bring his flipping neckbreaker back. It looks good, he should stick with it, and he seemed like the best guy in the semi-main. This Atlantis appearance featured him shuffling around a lot because that was earlier on him. He’s also using a simple takedown as a finish, seeming because it doesn’t require him putting any weight on his legs or jumping. It’s not great.

Hechicero & Panther Jr. went for dramatics on their chop fight. It was alright, like the rest. Hechicero is the best at getting good things out of Panther Jr. but that’s not a surprise. Mascara 2000 attempted to take a dragon screw leg whip from Black Panther and almost lost what is left of his knee.

Puebla, Tuesday preview, Big Daddy

didn’t time to have a GIF

CMLL (MON) 09/09/2019 Arena Puebla [CMLL, Lucha Central]
1) Ares el Poblano, Black Tiger, Guerrero Espacial b Asturiano, Meyer, Millenium LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Ares (Costa Rica), Escualo (Costa Rica), Kaiser (Costa Rica) LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Hijo del Villano III, Perverso, Universo 2000 Jr. b Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Kráneo LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Perverso replaced Mascara Ano 2000. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Atlantis, Flyer, Titán b Hechicero, Templario, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. DQ Dragón Lee, Terrible, Valiente [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Terrible fouled Casas for the DQ.

The DQ came out of nowhere. No idea if it’s setting up that singles match. Dragon Lee/Volador probably couldn’t happen due to other bookings they have on Monday. Casas & Terrible don’t have Monday bookings yet I’ve got yet.

Arena Mexico tonight has Peste Negra versus Caristico, Valiente, and Volador. Last week’s show ended with Cavernario fouling Volador, which seemed like something just to build-up up the cage match announcement for the following day. It’s also possible CMLL just runs Cavernario/Volador randomly on Tuesday because it’s CMLL. Flyer, Kraneo, and Stuka Jr. face Hechicero, Vangellys and Rey Bucanero in the semi-main. Polvora has yet another lightning match, this time against Rey Cometa. The Costa Rica trio finish up their short stint with Pegasso, Star Jr. and Stigma today. The opening matches again include a minis match to open a show. It’ll stream at 7:30 pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Guadalajara has the Guerreros versus Angel de Oro, Dragon Lee, and Niebla Roja. They teased Ultimo Guerrero versus Dragon Lee there last week. A bigger than usual show next Tuesday as a delayed holiday celebration would make sense for both arenas. There’s been no announcement to that extent yet.

CMLL quietly removed Big Daddy from Friday night’s main event. Sanson will replace him. He’s only wrestled in AAA as part of the Gran Prix ciberneticos and last Friday’s semi-main. He may have as few three Arena Mexico matches in CMLL before main eventing Aniversario. It doesn’t appear to be injury because he’s appearing twice in Texas this upcoming Saturday. We just saw with MechaWolf that CMLL will find a spot for any foreigners who are in, so Big Daddy appearing on nothing but a Friday show suggests he’s just not around now. There’s no sign of any falling out between CMLL & Big Daddy, so I’m not sure this means much.

I don’t think current CMLL is capable of making someone a big star in two weeks and I don’t think he’ll be able to do it on his own in matches. Maybe it’s fine in the way that this already not great. Big Daddy remaining a mystery man will inflate the perception among fans that CMLL put him in the match so they can have a nobody lose, but that was already there and I’m not sure if it’ll affect ticket sales. It would help if they got him over as a threat but I don’t think CMLL is interested in doing that either.

Hijo de Mano Negra says he’s debuting in Arena Mexico soon.

Daga confirmed he’s signed with Impact, though that’s only for the US and he’s still with AAA in Mexico.

 

AAA posted a promo with Octagon Jr. introducing himself. He says he’ll be on the Morelia show and Heroes Inmortales. There’s a mystery tecnico teaming with Pimpinela and Faby Apache, so that’s probably it for Morelia. No mention of New York.

+LuchaTV has their newest podcast. They talk about the music replacements on Sunday’s AAA show around 1h25m, not really happy about the changes.

Lineup

CMLL (SAT) 09/14/2019 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Sonic vs Cholo & Yago
2) La Guerrera, La Vaquerita, Sanely vs La Infernal, La Seductora, Tiffany
3) Átomo, Gallito, Microman vs Chamuel, Guapito, Perico Zakarías
4) Audaz, Guerrero Maya Jr., Volcano vs Cancerbero, Dark Magic, Raziel
5) Carístico, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
6) Diamante Azul vs Negro Casas

This turned into Diamante Azul singles match weekend. I don’t think even Diamante Azul wants that.

CMLL (SUN) 09/15/2019 Arena México
1) Leono & Sangre Imperial vs Apocalipsis & Príncipe Odín Jr.
2) Angelito, Kaligua, Shockercito vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia
3) Blue Panther Jr., Dulce Gardenia, Rey Cometa vs Okumura, Sagrado, Virus
4) Stuka Jr., Titán, Valiente vs Ephesto, Felino, Hechicero
5) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Volador Jr. vs Mephisto, Mr. Niebla, Terrible
6) Diamante Azul vs Último Guerrero

There are not many options for lucha libre on 09/15 but maybe a museum would be better than another Diamante Azul main event.

IWRG (MON) 09/16/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Acero II & Águila Oriental vs Biosfera & Príncipe Jr.
2) Ángel Dorado I, Galactus, Spider Fly vs Especie Maligna, Voltar, Voltex
3) Ángel Estrella Jr., Dinámico, Noise Boy vs Canival, Carnicero, Güero Palma
4) Atomic Star, Auzter, Cheff Benito, Chicanito, Death Metal, Mexica, Puma de Oro, Rey Halcón vs ?, Adrenalina, Canibal Jr., Dragón Fly, Guerrero Olímpico, Historico, Marado, Voraz [Torneo FILL 85]
IWRG (Black Terry) vs Argentino (La Mosca)
5) Demonio Infernal & Eterno vs Fresero Jr. & Mr. Iguana
6) Aramis, Imposible, Relámpago vs Cerebro Negro, Fly Warrior, Hijo de Canis Lupus
7) Dragón Bane © vs Toxin [IWRG REY DEL AIRE]
6th defense

Top few matches should look good and you have a usually interesting Copa Higher Power.

TAO (TUE) 10/01/2019 Arena Querétaro
1) Traidor & Zarpa De Tigre vs Ángel Rebelde & Lobo Lafayette and Bon Dracker & Hijo del Mosco X-Fly and Galáctico Dragón & Natague [? TAG]
2) Drabek I, Drabek II, Ursus vs Rey Toro I, Rey Toro II, Rey Toro III
3) Dulce Gardenia, Goya Kong, Halcón Negro Jr., Máscarita Sagrada vs Coquito Amarillo, Hijo Del Picudo, Tifany, Yuriko
4) Lizmark Jr., Mr. Águila, X-Fly vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Ozz, Dark Scoria
5) El Hijo Del Santo & Laredo Kid vs Black Taurus (Indie) & El Hijo del Solitario

Still intrigued by Santo’s bigger schedule. I do wonder if there’s a choice not to wrestle in Mexico City because there are enough goofy promotions that one would pay him to do it if the price has suddenly come down. Independent Goya Kong can work against Tiffany where AAA’s Goya Kong could not.

Lucha Libre Vanguardia (THU) 10/03/2019 Autolavado VM, Tulancingo, Hidalgo
1) Caballero Atena & Dayami vs Guerrero Sagrado Jr. & Zuzu Divine
2) Falcón Fire, Gasparin, Lobo Blanco, Rey Dragón, Símbolo Azteca vs Dragón Boy, Freyzer, Jeff Killer, Josh Snipper, Mr. Chivo
3) Colmillo Blanco, Dragón Latino, Tarasco vs Amo de la Noche, Bobby Cruz, Némesis
4) Calibus vs Aramis vs Draztick Boy vs Juventud Aerea [AEREO NACIONAL]
5) Aero Boy & Violento Jack vs Cíclope & Miedo Extremo and Crazy King & Lunatik Fly

Violento Jack returns to Mexico for one night only to team with Aero Boy again. These Vanguardia shows are interesting but we’ve only gotten to see brief clips of the last two shows on +LuchaTV, including a Virus singles match.

AAA in Puebla results, new Octagon/Abismo/Bengala, MDA

probably not Triton

AAA TV (SUN) 09/08/2019 Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla [AAA, Lucha Central, thecubsfan]
1) Chik Tormenta, Low Rider, Toxin b Aramis, Draztick Boy, La Parkita  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
10:00. Toxin replaced Latigo (China). Tormenta beat Parkita with a powerbomb.
2) Bengala, Dinastía, Eclipse b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
9:43. The newest version of Begnala was the surprise wrestler. Mocha Cota frog splashes Eclipse.
3) Big Mami, Lady Shani, Octagon Jr. b Abismo Negro Jr., La Hiedra, Villano III Jr.  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
13:13. Debuts of Abismo Negro Jr. and the third Octagon Jr., with Octagon beating Abismo.
4) Ortiz (LAX) & Santana (LAX) b Laredo Kid & Myzteziz Jr. and Arez & Daga  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
11:00. Myzteziz Jr. replaced Hijo del Vikingo (still in cast). Earlier, Vikingo appeared to express his disappointment about being unable to wrestle in front of his hometown fans. Averno confronted him to reissue his trios title challenge then attacked Vikingo. Myzteziz & Parka made the save, only for Argenis to attack them with a chair and unmask Myzteziz. Argenis declared only his family has the rights to that mask. Argenis attacked Myzteziz again after this match, giving him a martinete.
5) Averno, Chessman, Texano Jr. b Aerostar, Murder Clown, Niño Hamburguesa  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
15:21. Texano pinned Murder Clown after a mask pull and a distracted by La Hiedra
6) Drago, Psycho Clown, Taya b Ayako Hamada, Blue Demon Jr., Rey Escorpión  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
16:41. Psycho Clown pinned Rey Escorpion with a torito after Dr. Wagner Jr. attacked Blue Demon, hitting him in the hand with a hammer.

It was a generally good show. The undercard was easily watchable, the main event wasn’t strong but Wagner did hammer a man’s hand. There was nothing must watch on it and it wasn’t the most crucial show. The OGTs are maybe getting a trios title shot, but that was set up already. Argenis may be feuding with Myzteziz but I don’t believe in Argenis feuds until they actually exist. LAX winning is sort of a build to the tag title match next but it wasn’t really treated that way on screen.

As would be expected, most of the talk about the show was about the “new” characters. The identities weren’t hard to figure out, and the reaction wasn’t much of a surprise. AAA sees these as roles people play, roles that they own and have invested in and want to stay an active part of their world. Calling Abismo Negro “Jr.” is the acknowledgment that it’s a new character, but this is part of the deal with AAA. If the promotion goes on long enough, there will one day be a Drago Jr., or a Lady Shani Jr., or even a Psycho Clown Jr.

Of course it’s not just AAA who does it. It’s the rejection of Mistico (II) as a character that makes wonder if it’s ever going to be a successful idea in today’s environment. AAA did pull off this replacement idea with La Parka Jr. and their success with that choice can be held up as proof it’ll work for others. It does seem more like one exception in a world of forgettable retreads and where hardcore fans are more knowledgeable and more willing to reject replacements, as they have with Mistico. La Parka has worked but it’s on example against a lot more AAA characters who were never as successful as those people who they replaced (like the second Psicosis) or had runs that have been completely forgotten (Ludxor & Venum).

Pentagon Jr. may be another exception of a AAA putting someone in an old gimmick and it very much working out on him. It’s arguable though; not much of what he became had to do with the Pentagon character, except for the martial arts aspect playing into his perfect personality vignette on Lucha Underground. Penta did end up an international star at the end, and that’s why those people who’ve taken on the new characters are making the same decision. I have no idea if was stated or just implied, but Octagon Jr.’s post-match interview about this being the moment to become an international star hints at the bargain made. Taking on the Octagon Jr. gimmick, given the history of that character specifically, is a big load. It’s one a Mexican wrestler might taken on if they were promised a bigger focus in AAA and the same chances to go internationally as Penta & Fenix got.

People are angry about Octagon Jr. coming back but at least they have a strong feeling about it. Bringing back the Bengala gimmick seems a particularly odd pick. Abismo Negro was a big star in AAA, Octagon was a big star and that seems wrapped up in a legal fight. Bengala, with both Ricky Marvin and Super Nova, topped out in the midcard. Though Bengala Nova hasn’t been on Twitch since January, it still feels like the gimmick needed to sit on a closet for a lot longer, because it’ll pigeonhole the new guy in the same spot.

Abismo Negro Jr. attempting to disguise his voice for his interview was fun. A daughter of Abismo Negro wrote on Facebook to make it clear Abismo Negro Jr. isn’t a family member. She isn’t happy about it though she doesn’t believe there’s anything they can do about it. She also says Abismo Negro designed the outfit. AAA’s side has always been that they came up with it.

I have no idea where these changes leave the trios titles. Octagon Jr. did not have a trios title last night, while Golden Magic definitely did in his Impact appearance taped a couple of weeks ago. It is strange Golden Magic was added to the Jinetes del Aire if he wasn’t going to be Golden Magic much longer, and that points to how quickly this was all probably decided. (In other words, AAA probably hadn’t figured out how they were handling the trios titles either last night, even as they were setting up a title match for them.)

The other big change from last night’s show was the music. Entrance music was changed for Psycho Clown, Drago, Los Mercenarios, Laredo Kid. Others, like Blue Demon & Dr. Wagner Jr., did not have their music changed. Widespread music change usually means some big scale music rights issues. AAA has always used real songs, which would not fly in the US but hasn’t seemed to be much of an issue for CMLL or AAA in Mexico. AAA was aware it was a problem outside of Mexico, replacing all music with a generic song on their YouTube channel for the last couple of years. It may have been a situation AAA was going to have to deal with on the US shows, but there wasn’t any urgency to make a change in Puebla. A lot of the new music was personalized, not the generic music they’ve been using on YouTube. That leaves open the possibility this was AAA deciding they wanted to own their own music, just like they owned the gimmick, rather than something forced on it. It’s a hard adjustment in many cases.

A photographer for Milenio was attacked by guards outside the Puebla show. It seems like they prevented him from getting into the building, he recorded it on his camera, and then they attacked him when he refused to delete it. I’d assume the guards work for the venue and not AAA, but it’s still something that gets connected back to AAA.

AAA announced Kenny Omega’s challenge against Fenix for the AAA Mega Championship would take place on 11/17 in Orizaba at Heroes Inmortales. A Daga/Drago match was also mentioned by the announcers though I’m not sure if that was definite.

The New York show was lightly promoted as well, with no real big push for it on Spanish commentary (but it sounded like there was more in English.) La Parka’s column, which seems partly fictional, has him writing it while waiting for his US visa. Cain Velasquez is going on an MMA show of note to promote the show. He seems like the only person who’s been out to promote the show so far.

It seemed odd that Super Fly, who is from Puebla, was left off this show. It turns out he’s in Colombia doing press for the AAA tour.

There are advertisements out for an AAA TV taping on 11/17 in Ciudad Juarez, which matches a date mentioned previously by +LuchaTV. The remaining unconfirmed tapings are 11/09 in Torreon, 11/30 in Veracruz and 12/14 in Ciudad Madero.

An AAA show in Tuxlta Guiterrez, Chiapas on Saturday drew 2,200, which looked to be a sell out.

Items besides AAA

MDA (SUN) 09/08/2019 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV]
1) Chef Benito & Chicanito b Mexica & Neza Kid and Celestial Boy & Shadow Boy and Shalom & Spider Fly [Copa MDA] Cheff Benito-Chicanito vs Neza Kid-Mexica vs Celestial Boy-Shadow Boy vs Shalom-Spider Fly (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
2) Fly Warrior, Iron Kid, Puma de Oro b Alas de Oro, Alas De Plata, Tromba Alas de Oro, Alas de Plata y Tromba vs Fly Warrior, Puma de Oro e Irón Kid con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
3) Astral b Freelance Astral vs Freelance mano a mano en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
4) Imposible & Sádico b El Divo & Hijo de Canis Lupus Imposible y el Hijo de Canis Lupus vs el Divo y Sádico en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
teams switched around
5) Aeroboy b Dragón Bane Aeroboy vs Dragón Bane mano a mano en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
Jack Evans was briefly listed in this match. Argenis ended up in AAA instead.
6) Penta 0M & Rey Fénix (LU) © b Jack Evans & Pagano [HOG TAG] MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by +LuchaTV) Penta OM y Rey Fénix vs Pagano y Jack Evans Campeonatos de Parejas HOG en MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Dr. Wagner was briefly announced, then replaced by Jack Evans hours later.

A lot of matches were said to be good and nothing great here instead. The main event wasn’t much but the turnout was pretty good.

CMLL’s Arena Puebla show has Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas & Volador Jr. against Dragon Lee, Terrible, and Valiente, a rematch from last week. Volador & Dragon Lee were feuding last week, though plenty of teases to matches have ended up elsewhere in Puebla this year. Atlantis is wrestling, for some reason, with Flyer & Titan against Hechicero, Templario, and Vangellys. The Panther brothers & Kraneo take on Hijo del Villano III, Universo 2000 Jr. and Mascara 2000 (also for some reason.) The Costa Rica luchadors from CWE return for a couple of shows, starting tonight against Drone, Fuego and Guerrero Maya.  The opener is an all locals affair. This streams at 9:00 pm on YouTube.

+LuchaTV has an interview with Hijo del Silver King from his debut, where he says he’s going to give people a lot to talk about. That’s proved to be accurate.

A stream of Soberano Jr. playing video games.

Lineups

AAA , EMW (FRI) 09/27/2019 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Rayo Star vs Jake AtlasFantastickDouglas JamesDrakeGriffSatana
2) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana, Último Maldito vs Arandú, Arkángel Divino, TJ Boy, Xtasis
3) Australian Suicide, Steve Pain, Villano III Jr. vs Hijo de Canis Lupus, Kamik-C, Skalibur
4) La Hiedra, Myzteziz Jr., Toxin vs Black Boy, Lady Lee, Mirage
5) Averno, Daga, Súper Fly vs Genio del Aire, Jonathan, Tony Casanova
6) Pagano vs Nicho el Millionario

This is the AAA vs indie themed show, which also seems to be dealing with less big names than usual.