CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-10-04


taped 2014-09-26 @ Arena México

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Guadalajara to Fridays, Veneno loses his hair, Traumas vs Terry/Navarro

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 12/07/2014 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring, Semiotica del Deporte]

***52nd Anniversary of Lucha Libre in Estado de Mexico***
1) Metaleón b Araña de Plata
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo b Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, Liderk, Rayan
3) Chicano, Trauma I, Trauma II b Dr. Cerebro, Emperador Azteca, Negro Navarro
The Traumas went after their father their whole match and more after the match. Black Terry tried to calm them down and the Traumas attacked him too.
4) Canis Lupus & Eterno b Danny Casas & Oficial 911 [super libre]
Everyone bled. Danny Casas turned on 911 after mishaps earlier in the match.
5) Cien Caras Jr., Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Máscara Año 2000 b Hijo De Dos Caras, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Súper Nova
Rayo/Mascara Sr. challenges, as usual.
6) Toscano b Veneno [hair]
Mascara Ano 2000 and Rafy were seconds – except Rayo de Jalisco replaced Rafy at the last second. Veneno bled a lot. In the last fall, Mascara attacked Toscano and Veneno covered him for an apparent three count, but Rayo alerted the referee to the cheating. Veneno argued the decision and Toscano cradled him for the win. Toscano took 2/3.

At least as far as I can figure, this is the first time Veneno has lost his hair in 10 years. I feel like we must be missing one because it seems crazy. It’s also the first time Toscano has won a hair match in 8 years. They probably should’ve built that up for more than three weeks.

There are a lot of good bloody pictures in Black Terry’s photos, but I thought maybe they were too much for a Monday morning. Traumas force feeding Navarro popcorn is good family fun. That tag match should be good.

There are rumors about Bellator (MMA) having interest in El Patron Alberto fight for them. (Wrestling Observer mentioned this in passing this week. On one hand, lots of money. On the other hand, how does Alberto have time to do everything he’s already doing? Serious training for a MMA fight would take him out of active lucha libre participation. But again, lots of money makes a compelling case.

Alicia unmasked Lady Jaguar in Monterrey.

The Lucha Underground ladder match is said to be a 22 minute segment. That’ll be great, just be ready for five breaks in the first 38 minutes. (And also Super Fly debuting this week with his mask.)

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

Segunda Caida reviews Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero, Hombre sin Nombre, Virus

CMLL’s highlights of Friday’s show indicate the top 3 matches will air.


IWRG (WED) 12/10/2014 Arena Naucalpan
1) Vampiro Metálico vs Power Bull
2) Galaxy & Sky Ángel vs Payaso De Plata & Payaso Extremo
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Anubis Black, Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Hip Hop Man
4) Danger King, Dr. Cerebro, Orión vs Black Terry, Dragón Celestial, Metaleón
FILL vs Sexy Gym comes to the main show.
5) Eterno, Oficial 911, Veneno vs Canis Lupus, Chicano, Danny Casas

Main event doesn’t quite make sense unless Canis and Eterno broke up and I missed it. Always possible.

CMLL (FRI) 12/12/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Dr. Frezzer & Explosivo vs El Yaqui & Furia Nazi
2) El Divino, Ídolo Jr., Javier Cruz Jr. vs Chakal, Jocker, Sádico
3) Esfinge, Exterminador, Magnum vs Maléfico, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
4) Boby Zavala & Olímpico vs Gallo & Omar Brunetti
tag champs in non-title action
5) La Máscara & La Sombra vs Rey Bucanero & Terrible

Changes! Last night’s Guadalajara show was apparently the final Sunday show* and the secondary Guadalajara show will now be on Fridays. The Sunday shows have lately only had six DF luchadors, which is the same case here. I’m not sure if Friday vs Sunday makes a difference, but the new (mystery) person in charge is making changes. The knock off of this is the CMLL luchadors who would be working this shows are now available to work other places on Sunday (and there aren’t as many other possible shows to be working on Friday nights.)

The problem is all of those four guys are also in the Friday night Arena Mexico main event. It’s not possible to work both of those shows. I assume they’re getting pulled from Arena Mexico but nothing’s been said as of yet.

* – until they change their minds about this.

Idolo Jr. is a new name here.

CMLL (SUN) 12/14/2014 Arena México
1) Bengala & Sensei vs Akuma & Inquisidor
2) Dark Angel, Lluvia, Marcela vs Amapola, Dalys, La Seductora
3) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Titán vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Dragón Rojo Jr. vs Pólvora [lightning]
5) Máscara Dorada, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Vangellys
6) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Máximo vs Negro Casas, Shocker, Thunder

A show. Dragon Rojo versus Polvora is just the Hat at work; they’ve completely forgotten the Revolucionarios, much less that they broke up.

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-10-04


taped 2014-09-30 @ Arena México
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Terrible (and the top rope) defeat Marco Corleone

Soberano Jr./CMLL on Terra

CMLL (SUN) 12/07/2014 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Eléctrico & Fantasy b Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pierrothito Electrico & Fantasy vs Pequeno Universo 2000 & Pierrothito, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Cholo, Hijo del Signo, Ramstein DQ Oro Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr.Oro Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr. vs Cholo, Hijo del Signo, Ramstein, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Rudos won when Ramstein handed his mask to Star Jr.
3) Dark Angel, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit DQ Amapola, La Comandante, Tiffany  (posted by thecubsfan)
Marcela replaced Estrellita (injury.) Tecnicas took 1/3, the last when Amapola refused to stop throwing Marcela around by her hair. Good match from what was able to be seen.
4) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Hombre sin Nombre, Kamaitachi, Sangre Azteca  (posted by thecubsfan)
Sangre Azteca replaced Okumura on Monday. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., La Máscara b Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Pólvora Atlantis, Dragon Rojo Jr., La Mascara vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Polvora, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Terrible b Marco Corleone Marco Corleone vs Terrible, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Terrible took 1/3, the last when Marco collapsed while running the ropes and Terrible covered him. Marco was stretched off.

The word on Twitter is the rope snapping into his neck caused Marc0 to lose feeling. They’re able to capture it on the replay. That jolt to his neck left him unable to move; he was fine a few minutes later but they were smart to just end the mach when they did. It’s too bad, because it was looking like a good match and that’s obviously not the finish they had in mind. There was another escape drill – this time earthquake – right after the show and it just was an eerie way for things to end.

Same deal with the Terra feed as usual in Arena Coliseo: really spotty for the first half of the show and then pretty steady after that. This is the last Sunday Arena Coliseo show until mid January, so it shouldn’t be a problem for a while. Women’s match seemed good from what we could see, and the segunda continued the feud there.

All my GIFs from the show.

Rob has a music video of 08/08/14 CMLL 

BxB Fly has music videos of 09/22/14 Puebla, 09/23/14 Guadalajara and 09/28 Coliseo

DoradaFan has a music video of 09/23/2014 CMLL.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update another episode of the podcastthe return of Vandal’s Musings and a recap of Lucha Azteca 11/22.

Segunda Caida enjoyed Blue Panther vs Ephesto from June but not the 10/11 Lucha Azteca I warned them about.

The debut episode of Fuego en el Ring radio had Cien Caras & Hechicero as guests.

Dinamic Black talks about his mask match with Guerrero WMC next Saturday.

Sabor el Ring talks two of the about 100 fans who are still coming to Arena Coliseo San Luis Potosi shows at the end: people who’ve been coming for 20 years, once who’s a wife and mother to luchadors on the show.

An article claims Mexican luchadors are the worst paid but best wrestlers in the world. Not the best at getting themselves paid, I guess.

A column talks about luchadors from the 80s and 90s as the last great luchadors. Everyone today sucks! This has become a depressing links section.

A New York Daily News article on Lucha Underground lists the current capacity as 450 people.

R de Rudo interviews Hell Boy.

Lucha Libre in Japan

12/06 NOAH: Super Crazy, FUNAKI & Scotty 2 Hotty [O] b Yoshinari Ogawa, Zack Sabre Jr & Pesadilla [X]

That match actually happened.


Weren’t posted! Check back tomorrow.

12/07 AAA TV Results (Guerra de Titanes 2014)

AAA TV (SUN) 12/07/2014 Auditorio Benito Juárez, Zapopan, Jalisco [AAA]
***Guerra de Titanes, 2014***
1) Dinastía © b Mini Charly Manson [AAA MINI]
Dinastia fifth known defense. Mascarita Sagrada & Mini Psycho Clown were seconds and interfered. Good match.
2) Sexy Star & Taya Valkyrie b Faby Apache & Ivelisse
Sexy pinned Faby (with Taya’s help.) Another pull apart brawl after the match.
3) Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr. b Fénix & Myzteziz and Angélico & Jack Evans © [AAA TAG]
Fenix & Myzteziz missed stereo tope con giros thru a table and Lider & Pentagon beat Jack to win the titles. Pentagon & Lider are 13th Champions. Pentagon now holds half of both tag titles (Mixed w/Sexy Star.) Jack & Angelico fall on fourth known defense.
4) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown © b Averno & Chessman [AAA TRIOS]
Cibernetico was missing from the match for unclear reasons. Clowns beat Chessman and Cibernetico showed up a couple minutes after the match. Psycho Circus eight known defense.
5) Aerostar b Súper Fly [mask]
Seconds were Nino Hamburguesa and Hijo del Fantasma. Tirantes started at referee, but Joaquin replaced him with Piero. Aerostar did a dive off the light tower onto all three, then later beat Super Fly for the win. Super Fly is Erick Aguilar Muñoz, 10 years a wrestler, from Puebla.
6) El Patrón Alberto b Texano Jr. © [AAA HEAVY]
Mesias and Perro were seconds. Plenty of weapon usage. Tirantes started as ref in this one too, but Alberto took him out with a superkick. Piero replaced him. Texano tried to counter the armbar with a foul again, but Alberto blocked it and armbared him for the win and title change. Alberto is the 12th champion and first person to have won both the AAA & CMLL Heavyweight titles. Texano falls on his 14th known defense.

Air Date: 01/03 and 01/10, though it might sneak up on YouTube prior that that.

Top two matches sounded particularly good, but the entire show seems to have come off well. Aerostar/Super Fly is being called a MOTYC level match and the main event was what it needed to be. The Fenix/Myzteziz wipe out spot in the tag match is crazy.

Not mentioned in the results was another Perros del Mal/Konnan promo segment, promoting how they had almost all the titles (as a tease in them stealing the main event, I’d guess.) The main event ended with all the tecnicos celebrating with Alberto, as a mirror version of that earlier segment.

No one seems to know what the deal is with Cibernetico showing up late. If it’s an angle, and it’s probably an angle, they didn’t get it over on the PPV or in the results. Maybe there’s some backstage vignette which will fill in the blank, but it didn’t go anywhere here. The Sociedad Ultimatium didn’t seem to go anywhere too, so something unrevealed that connects the two is possible. There also wasn’t the big angle to set thing up for 2015, though Alberto/Perro and Myzteziz/Fenix for the tag titles are obviously out there, and they’re setting up something for the women. Their post match fights feel like teases to a hair match, but I can’t imagine any of those four being thrilled with that idea.

This did only air on PPV; even finding pirated feeds was a problem. (That also might suggest not a lot of people bought this, but those kind of things only take one of the right people to get a feed.) No word on the attendance yet. Show started about 15 minutes after the top of the hour and they finished the main event just a few minutes before 9pm CT – Psycho, Mesias and Alberto were posing on the stage as Sky cut away.

Unsure if we’ve got another taping in 2015. I haven’t seen one mentioned yet on TV, but they were locked in on Guerra de Titanes this week. Next week will make it clear.


2014 Guerra de Titanes preview

Guerra de Titanes is tonight at 6pm CT, and they’re usually pretty good at starting . It’s only legally available on conventional PPV.  It should turn up on TV in January though I’m not sure about the timing. I’ll attempt to do some sort of live results on Twitter.

1) Dinastía © vs Mini Charly Manson [AAA MINI]

This will work good as opener; Diniasta is all about quick action and that works for this spot. These two have worked well together at other times. The finish might be more about balancing the rest of the show – there’s going to be a lot of other titles change, but there’s also going to be a lot of rudo wins, and either thing might affect the finish. I figure Dinastia just keeps being champion.

2) Ivelisse & Faby Apache vs Sexy Star & Taya Valkyrie

Probably time for the rudas to get one back, since Ivelisse has won both times so far. Whatever the next big match is here is still a while away so it’s more about having a good match than an outcome. They didn’t quite have a good match in DF, maybe this will go better.

3) Fénix & Myzteziz vs Angélico & Jack Evans © and Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr. [AAA TAG]

The idea of handing over the tag team division to Myzteziz is a good one. It’ll add value to these championships, give AAA another feud they can move in and out of the main event, and keeps Myzteziz special instead of just being the odd main out in the Mega title/Perros storyline. I’m just not sure if they’ll end up winning the titles here. The top two matches look to be happy results and this is one where AAA could more easily push off the big win for another day without damaging the tecnicos. Pentagon & Lider picking up the titles in some Perros del Mal chicanery, laying the ground work for the tease of the same later on, fits the night.

4) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown © vs Averno, Chessman, Cibernético [AAA TRIOS]

This feud almost seems to have taken a step back to Konnan demanding the Hell Brothers sign up for his side. Cibernetico has laughed off the idea of joining La Sociedad, and the drama is more in how they’ll respond. Costing the Hell Brothers this match is a good start. It’d also explain why they’ve done this feud so many times on TV already if both sides were just doing a one show program and moving on to other sides afterwards. There’s been nothing about this feud which makes me want to see more of it.

(This also seems a good place to ask “what happened to the Electroshock storyline?” Last time we saw him on TV, he was contemplating retiring. He’s still on spot shows, but did his TV character retire? Did it just go in the “Billy el Malo’s protege” waste bucket of forgotten ideas? Could he come back with a new look tonight?)

5) Aerostar vs Súper Fly [mask]

It would be the ultimate troll move to people who read this website for Aerostar to get a real TV push only to lose his mask. I don’t think AAA is in the business of being trolls, but there is a little reason to be concerned. The good guy usually loses falls in every match but the last one in AAA feuds (see the next match) and Aerostar actually won the last match. Still, Super Fly’s back on TV to have a good match and to lose his mask, and both figure to happen here. Super Fly’s moved on an Aerostar dive and tried to set him ablaze with his own fire can in the buildup, and at least one of those figure to happen again here.

6) El Patrón Alberto vs Texano Jr. © [AAA HEAVY]

This should be a coronation. AAA will stand for Alberto Alberto Alberto. There might be some difficulty down the road with this: if Alberto is working as many places as he says he’s working next year, AAA might have as much problems getting dates on him as they seemed to have with Blue Demon Jr. That’s a problem for another day; there’s no way Albert loses all the matches in this feud unless he’s retiring tomorrow. Texano’s twice escaped Alberto’s armbar and uppercut fouled him, so that’s what Alberto has to survive here.

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Felino loses his hair to Rey Bucanero at Infierno en el Ring, Lucha Underground holiday schedule

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 12/05/2014 Arena México [CMLL, MT, Terra]
***Infierno en el Ring, 2014***
1) Pegasso & Tritón b Canelo Casas & Disturbio
Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Kamaitachi, Okumura, Virus
Tecnicos took 2/3
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Super Porky, Titán b Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Vangellys
Tecnicos took 2/3 with Porky/Kraneo comedy. Mistico appeared after the match to announce he would be returning (soon?)
4) La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Valiente DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Thunder
2/3 for the tecnicos, the last when Thunder pulled Mascara’s mask for the DQ.
5) Felino L Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr., Terrible, Shocker, Bárbaro Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Máximo, Blue Panther [cage, hair]
They fought for three minutes before escapes were allowed. Order of escape: Shocker, Terrible (about the same time), Blue Panther, Maximo, Ultimo Guerrero, Marco Corleone, Voldaor, and Barbaro Cavernario. That left Rey Bucanero and Felino left in a rematch of 2011 Anniversary cage match. Bucanero beat Felino this time for Felino’s first hair loss.

The finish of the cage match was all about symmetry with the previous cage match, but it seems like a waste to have Rey Bucanero winning cage matches at this point in his career. Knee injuries and a long time of lucha libre has caught up with Bucanero and it’s likely this is the last major hair match he’ll win. This seems like a setup to Bucanero losing his hair sometime in 2015 – maybe Cavernario avenges his partner – but a month or two of Bucanero heavy matches are going to be a tough ask.

When CMLL mentioned Mistico appeared on the show, I was expecting to read a return date announced. Doesn’t appear like one was specified, they just had him out there to say hello in front of (what they hoped to be) a bigger audience.

Kcidis draws a bald Felino. CMLL posted the dance number from last night. This was a really quick show, clocking in at just over two hours.

Lucha Azteca may be pre-empted today. It’s still showing up in my guide, but other people have noticed that it’s missing from their Azteca station this week. I think it depends on east coast/west coast feed; Azteca is airing the second division promotion final tonight (with Apolo Valdes’s favorite team!) and that may have caused the show to get bumped on the west coast. Or maybe everywhere, who knows.

A preview for the next two weeks of Lucha Underground reveals the 12/17 show is called a “Unique Opportunity.” It’s the show with the two 10 man matches, a battle royal and an elimination match. They also mention the ladder matches goes twenty five minutes long. There’s always hyperbole in these things, but that’s still going to be quite a match.

That preview also confirms the show will be off on 12/24 and 12/31 and will be back on 01/07. People with Lucha Underground had said that was the plan months ago, it’s not new but something most people aren’t yet aware of. I keep thinking (and saying) this looks like a Unimas thing, but I’m thinking over it again and not so sure. It is Christmas Eve and New Year’s Eve on El Rey, but it’s only December 27th and January 3rd on Unimas, and I’m not sure there’d be holiday programming on both those days. It’s probably just not wanting to run episodes on El Rey during the holidays. I’m not sure what will air on Unimas.

Daga is listed as working the 12/25 Arena Azteca Budokan AAA spot show, so he may be back soon. There’s also a surprise luchador working the main event.

Perro Mocho Jr. took “Cotty” Santiago’s hair on the Xalapa DTU show. I’m not quite sure why he has no S in Mexico but Mexico is weird.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Alberto talked about the soon to be closed Arena Coliseo San Luis Potosi in his brief trip back to the city earlier this week. He hoped it’d be replaced by something better.

Texano says he’ll stay megachampion tomorrow.

Segunda Caida reviews Mistico vs Volador II.

Hidalgo luchador Principe Diamante was honored.

Pagano & Sick Boy talk about their feud with Nicho.


CMLL (FRI) 12/12/2014 Arena México
1) Acero & Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr., Tritón vsCancerbero, Nitro, Raziel
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Super Porky, Titán vsEphesto, Mephisto, Pólvora
4) Valiente vs Bárbaro Cavernario [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Máximo, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Marco Corleone vsShocker, Thunder, Último Guerrero

Sombra’s back, so the modifed Ingobernables are back as well. Valiente/Cavernario should be fun.

Video promo.

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-10-04


taped 2014-09-23 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
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Infierno en el Ring, Octagon

Today is CMLL’s Infierno en el Ring. Hooray? Breaking down the ten people in the cage

no chance they’re losing their hair

Shocker – two hair loses in a year is a bit much
Volador Jr.
Marco Corleone
Ultimo Guerrero

Very Small Chance

Barbaro Cavernario – this would be so dumb but I can’t rule it out becuase he’s so new
Terrible – he loses all the time so it’s not out of character but would seem such a waste

Decent Chance

Blue Panther – the other two are so obvious that they may got in another direction just as a surprise
Rey Bucanero – lost in these before!
Felino – to be honest, amazing he’s gone this long without losing his hair

I’ve been think it’s finally Felino’s turn since they started in this direction. This whole thing is the illusion of putting on a big show without the actual effort of one, and that fits 2014 Felino well. Volador or Maximo getting a win makes some sense, but I like the idea of normal partners Cavernario and Felino being stuck in the cage together at the end and Barbaro getting the big win.

Felino says he’d like to face Rey Bucanero, Maximo or Blue Panther at the end.

Octagon, making appearances to theoretically promote FULL shows, says he’s going to sue AAA for rights to the Octagon name and wrongful termination. Wrongful firing is especially strange because he was quite upset with AAA at the start of the year and it sure sounded like he wanted to quit and not work there anymore. Even if it was a firing – which it probably wasn’t – AAA would’ve been in their right to stop working with a guy who was performing like Octagon. AAA’s been quiet on the Octagon situation previously probaby. because the public would tend to take the side of a famous luchador against them. However, if AAA went public on the problems with Octagon, Octagon would end up looking very bad. I don’t think anything more is going to happen.

ChilangaMask and the Tigre Rojos announced they’ll be running a show in Puebla’s Arena Coliseo San Ramon next month.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Rob has a music video of AAA 08/06/14.

Saeta Morelense Jr. lost his mask in Cuernavaca.

Fuego en el Ring premieres it’s radio show this Sunday at 3pm on 1370 AM in Guadalajara. There’s a stream of that station here.

Lucha Libre in Japan

12/05 NJPW: Rob Conway [O] & Jax Dane b Tetsuya Naito & La Sombra [X] [WTL]
Naito & Sombra fall to 4-3. After tie breakers, that means they’re the usual CMLL position of fifth. Sombra is in the semifinal atomicos on Sunday before returning to Mexico. Sombra’s atomicos match from the day before is here.

AAA on Televisa: 2014-10-04

flipping spinning DDT


taped 2014-09-14 @ Hard Rock Hotel Riviera Maya, Puerto Aventuras, Quintana Roo
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