I’ve made some changes. Guadalajara is added back to the list because I can record it and so I can actually keep track of what airs. I can’t do that with the LATV or Titanes en el Ring CMLL shows, so I’ve removed them. The actual static page has the full list of shows I know exist (or might have existed) but I’m not listing up there. And, yes, I know Guadalajara actually airs on Thursday but I can’t get that one and it’s old news by the time this post goes up.
This is still longer than usual because CMLL is airing Sunday’s show on YouTube. It’ll be three straight days of CMLL streams due to the Dia de Muertos shows, plus the usual Friday night show. CMLL’s added an important match to each show: Valiente/Volador on ClaroSports, Rush vs Ultimo Guerrero on Sunday, the Sky Team defending against the illogical trio of Euforia, Gran Guerrero and La Mascara in Puebla, and the Hijos del Infierno defending against the illogical team of Mistico, Mascara Dorada and Diamante Azul on Tuesday.
I’m still getting a feel for how CMLL Retro is going to work. They haven’t had near as many boxing shows at Coliseo in recent months, so they’re going to slip farther and farther behind if they’re breaking up each taping into two shows. When we were there, it appeared they recorded the whole show, which means a lot of stuff is getting unused. Maybe they don’t tape every week? Maybe it’s just not going to matter because everything is so disconnected anyway.
Lucha Underground‘s preview mentions the loser leaves town and dial of doom matches. There’s at least one more match.
Sunday’s Arena Naucalpan show is another indy promotion taking over the building. AYM now hasn’t aired the last few and I wouldn’t bet on them not airing it again. Gives me more chances to get the FILL show, I guess. (The feed is still not working right.)
IWRG (WED) 10/26/2016Arena Naucalpan [The Gladaitores]
1) Canario & Fly Tiger b Bambino & Último Caballero
2) Lilith Dark, Omega, Voltar b Bomberita, Charly Boy, Oficialito
3) Cadillac, Keshin Black, Kira b Fireman, Keiser Drago, Shadow Boy
4) Bombero Infernal, Picudo Jr., Skanda b Leo, Mike, Teelo Picudo snuck in a foul on Leo.
5) Ahijado de la Muerte, American Star, Cósmico, Luis Cirio, Luis Cirio Jr., Manny Cirio, Pequeño Unicornio, Tony Cirio Jr. DQ Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal,Dragón Fly, Hijo del Alebrije, Hip Hop Man, Kanon [Torneo FILL] Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Arena 2 de Junio (Tony Cirio). Hip Hop Man replaced Aramis. Black Terry forced Atomic Star to apologize for betraying FILL against the LLB team before they started. The match ended with Luis Cirio faking a foul from Black Dragon for the DQ win. Team Arena 2 de Junio invited IWRG to their arena for the rematch.
IWRG people work Arena 2 de Junio fairly frequently, so I suspect that rematch is actually happening. Picudo Jr. is a sneaky good choice to lose next week’s Castillo del Terror (assuming he’s even in the match!)
Marty Martinez defeated Ivelisse (4:11, half nelson suplex, OK)
Texano beats Cage (7:35, small package, good)
Johnny Mundo (11:26, knucks to the face, below average)
“This is incredibly wrong. I’m not feeling this at all.”
That’s how Vampiro ended the show. He was saying it because he was appalled with the result of the main event. I concurred with the sentiment if not the reasoning, but we’ll get to that.
The show was built around Sexy Star versus Johnny Mundo. Sexy earlier confidently informed Dario she’d cash in the Gift of the Gods title next week to fight Matanza, and considered Johnny Mundo no more than warmup match. She was unconcerned when Dario informed her Fenix, Drago and Aerostar would be banned from the match. The match told a different story: Mundo absolutely dominated her for the early portions of the match. Sexy mounted a minor comeback, then referee Marty Elias was taken out on a Mundo airplane spin. Things degenerated from there.
Sexy immediately got the visual pinfall on Mundo, with Striker pushing that Sexy had a count of nine. She got only a count of two when Elias recovered. Mundo then accidentally speared Elias, leaving him out of action for minutes. Sexy quickly got another visual win, a submission choke with Mundo tapping out then starting to pass out until Jack Evans and PJ Black made the save. They took out Sexy with double superkicks and a swinging gate bomb (!), with backup referee Rich Knox sliding in to count, but only getting two. Evans & Black pulled out Knox and took him out with another double superkick. (The announcers were surprisingly unbothered by this, simply speculating that third ref Justin Borden was too smart to come out and get similarly taken out.) The Mack made the save and helped Sexy clear house, for another two count when Marty recovered. Marty took away a chair from Mundo, Mundo pulled out brass knucks from his trunks, and punched Sexy Star in the face for the three count. Vampiro declared this victory null, void and utterly meaningless, while Mundo celebrated with his first ever Lucha Underground singles championship. Sexy won’t be cashing in next week, and it remains to be seen if Mundo will.
The other big item was handled in an abbreviated Mysterio/Cueto vignette (which seemed to be join in progress – by the show or by El Rey, it wasn’t clear.) Rey said much the same he said to Chavo Sr. last week – Rey’s got big things to do in Lucha Underground and he doesn’t want to waste his time fighting Chavo Jr. again, so one of them has to go. Rey wants to stay, but proposed making a loser leaves lucha match next week to get rid of Chavo. Dario was fine with this. This seems to contiue a pattern of a match being announced for the following week each week.
One more match which appears to be coming, but we don’t know when, is Prince Puma versus Mil Muertes in a Grave Consequences match. To close the show, Vampiro congratulated Puma on beating Mil last week, but told him it wasn’t enough. Mil “sent Konnan to an early grave” by putting him in the casket way back in Season 1, and the only way Puma would ever make it even is to do the same to Mil. Puma was a little skeptical, noting Vampiro didn’t like Konnan at all. Vampiro emphatically agreed, but insisted he always respected Puma. I’m not sure about even that much; it’s clear Vampiro (and probably “Vampiro Vampiro and not “Ian Vampiro”, if there’s a distinction) is manipulating an easily fooled Prince Puma, but Vampiro’s ultimate goal aren’t clear.
We did find out someone’s ultimate goal. Dario caught up with Councilman Delgado, who revealed their big boss has fully descended. They both thought this was great news and I don’t know enough to disagree with them. Delgado explained more, and what I got from this is the big boss needs a new body to inhabit – some god is inhabiting Matanza’s body, now they need another one. Dario was one step ahead of the game here, explaining he had a couple candidates, really strong and powerful people, and he was having them determine who would be the host. Yea: the “ultimate opportunity” for the Cage/Texano feud is the winner rents out their body to an all powerful (possibly evil) god. Delgado handed over a mysterious package, probably having to do with making this happen, and definitely being the other gift of the gods referenced in the episode title. In the ring, Texano beat Cage to make the series two wins for Cage and one win for Texano, but I’m no sure either guy can actually ‘win’ this situation.
The opener was another woman vs man match; the women went 0-2 tonight on the scoreboard. Ivelisse lost much cleaner to Marty. Mariposa got involved, but Marty was too much crazy person for Ivelisse to handle. (Or for Melissa, who Marty creeped on before the match; the cameras shot her reacting negatively to Marty during the match too.) After the match, and for no apparent reason, Ivelisse’s new boyfriend Jeremiah hit the ring and attacked both Moths. This worked for about 30 seconds before the numbers got to him, and Ivelisse reluctantly made the save. Jeremiah and Ivelisse ran off the Moths, but Ivelisse was rather upset with Jeremiah for getting involved and continued to let him know after they had left the Temple. Jeremiah revealed Dario had offered to let him fight at the Temple – “It’s always been my dream to hurt people!” – and Ivelisse eventually was worn down enough to agree to it. The “good guys” on this show have remarkably bad instincts on who to trust – but then they’re in an underground fighting league run by Dario Cueto so they’re made many bad choices already.
Paul London revealed he was “found” by the Rabbit Tribe. He’s been the voice over all this time. They’re coming soon. OK.
I need to break things up here. Let’s do a one off feature
Things Matt Striker Actually Said
“raven haired Ivelisse” – Ivelisse currently has red hair. Ravens are black.
“The flame burns on the porch of destruction.”
noted they had done too many sports puns, immediately does a sports pun
“I don’t need to do the math for you” – he immediately then did the math
“Sexy Star is what Lucha Underground is all about.”
Striker didn’t have the line of the night. That’s either Vampiro’s line at the end of the show, or this one to send it to the first match:
“If you are a fan of intergender wrestling, you don’t have to wait until the main event!”
Never has there been a more blatant trolling line on a wrestling show. That line was written to anger people. I haven’t been on Twitter tonight, but I’m assuming it worked as planned. The small issues is this entire show felt like a troll. If last week was everything people love about Lucha Underground, this was pretty close to everything that turns (some) people off from Lucha Underground. Vaguely distressing intergender wrestling, check! Unreal and sometimes hard to follow sci fi plotlines, check! Sexy Star being treated as a super wrestler while having bad matches, check and double check! The announcers, who treated the first half of Texano/Cage with disinterest because of the obvious certainty of the outcome, don’t even make the list this week. Striker’s line about Sexy Star being what Lucha Underground is about felt distressingly accurate during this show.
That main event. I don’t know. I think Sexy Star wouldn’t have put Sexy Star as over as strong Lucha Underground put her over tonight; they went over the top to make you know the result didn’t matter and Sexy is as great as ever. I kind of understand why, I know what’s coming and why they don’t want to diminish her going into it, but then maybe they shouldn’t have laid out a match where Mundo basically humiliates Sexy Star for about five minutes until the ref goes down. It was clear, not just from a “yow, Sexy Star’s offense looks bad and she’s taking way too many steps” reality view that Sexy Star is not in Johnny Mundo’s league, but the match itself was so the opposite of the Sexy/Jack match for a long time. Sexy didn’t seem credible, and she didn’t come off as sympathetic – not while trying to be strong in the skit with the vignette, not by whining to the referee about not getting the three count. (The announcers tried to cover for Sexy Star’s early ineptitude by explaining Sexy doesn’t really get going until she gets hit, but if the concept is that the domestic violence survivor only can find strength when she’s physically attacked – no no no this is a terrible concept, I need a new paragraph to cleanse myself of this.)
There’s obviously something Lucha Underground sees in Sexy Star as a face, but they’ve failed to communicate that in her actions and are relying on people projecting their own feelings onto her. That’s really hard for me to do with the last decade plus I’ve seen of Sexy Star. This was supposed to be a moment where we hated Johnny Mundo for stealing the title away from victimized Sexy Star, but the difference in talent between them is so obvious and the match itself was so ridiculous that I just hated the whole thing.
(Having the Mack make the save was a nice touch, anyway.)
This show can be bipolar. Vampiro leading into the opener by pushing the idea of this great intergender concept, and the story of the match itself being a win for Marty because he’s much bigger and a man and maybe making Ivelisse wrestler intergender (or at least people twice her size) is really actually dumb – which way did they want it? Ivelisse did pin Mil, on a surprise roll up after interference spot went bad (something that could’ve been referenced here but was not), but that’s now even more clearly positioned as a fluke. And, in the end, it’s clearly set up where Ivelisse is going to need Jeremiah’s help to win this battle against the Moths, because she’s not enough to do it on her own. I’m not sure what the alternative is (Ivelisse choking out a still hurt Marty in the first match, Mariposa beating Ivelisse in the second to make it more about numbers), but if the concept of the intergender is that the women are just as capable as the men, then this episode was fighting back against that concept. Ivelisse wasn’t as good as Marty, Sexy Star wasn’t as good as Mundo until she was suddenly overwhelming much better than Mundo. The words don’t match up to the acts if you pay attention.
Cage and Texano got the most time so far, and smartly used the early portion to brawl outside instead of going for lots of near falls. It was going to get the crowd to care for a while because the outcome isn’t in doubt – that’s why you make these 1-1 after two matches, so there’s only one dead match instead of two – but they did enough that the fans got into by the end. The announcers themselves went from a little bit of goofing around and not being into it (I’m pretty sure Vampiro pronounced both guys to be the least nervous in the first two minutes) to enjoying the last few minutes. These matches aren’t knocking me dead, but they are improving. The fifth match should be something, which I wasn’t sure about before.
I wish the announcers would find something else to talk about than hooking the leg. It’s so repetitive, it doesn’t help the wrestlers get over the match, and it’s so repetitive.
The vignettes were all generally good. I don’t have a big problem with the god possessing the winner of the Best of 5 deal, but I could only think about how that was going to push people’s buttons while watching it. Prince Puma’s was portrayed as someone Konnan could manipulate in season 1, so Vampiro doing the same isn’t a stretch. There’s still more Rabbit Tribe footage in the trailer that we haven’t seen, so I don’t actually have much hope we’ll see them soon. I wish there was some follow up on the Killshot bit from last week, but that’s the issue with having only 44 minutes to work with a week. (Still, I’d been happy to take a couple away from that main event.)
CMLL (TUE) 10/25/2016Arena México [CMLL, Culticon]
1) Shockercito & Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico tecnicos took 1/3
2) Lluvia, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi b La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany tecnicas took 1/3.
3) Kráneo, Pólvora, Ripper b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther Guerrero Maya Jr. replaced Rey Cometa. Rudos took 2/3.
4) Misterioso Jr. b Atlantis, La Máscara, Valiente, Gran Guerrero, Johnny Idol, Vangellys, Stuka Jr., Bobby Z, Blue Panther Jr., Hechicero, Esfinge[NWA LH, cibernetico, #1 Contenders] No battle royal, tecnicos vs rudos. Eliminations: Esfinge (Bobby Z), Vangellys (Valiente), Blue Panther (Gran Guerrero), Bobby Z (Atlantis), Gran Guerrero (Valiente), Stuka (La Mascara), La Mascara (Atlantis), Atlantis (Hechicero) and Valiente (Hechicero, hooking the ropes with his legs for leverage), leaving Hechicero as the (a bit surprise) winner. Hechicero faces Rey Bucanero next week.
5) Diamante Azul, Máscara Dorada, Mistico b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto Tecnicos won in straight falls and challenged the rudos to a trios title match. The rudos said no. (It’s happening.) Mascara Dorada challenged the rudos to a 3v3 mask match. (Not happening.)
Hechicero invaded the announce area and stood on the table to stare Rey Bucanero down after his win. Bucanero was doing commentary and got the crowd on his side. Later, Hechicero got the promo backstage.
The chances of that tecnico team becoming trios champions is roughly about zero (and would be even without Mascara Dorada being otherwise signed.) You’d like Dorada’s run to end with a big match, and that’s kind of a big match, but we still have no idea.
AAA JAPAN (WED) 10/26/2016Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan [AAA]
1) Dinastía, Kenzo, La Hiedra, Pimpinela Escarlata b Mamba, Mini Abismo Negro, Sumire Natsu, Toshizo La Hiedra replaced Faby Apache
2) Ikuto Hidaka & Masato Tanaka b Angélico & Hijo del Fantasma Hijo del Fantasma replaced Jack Evans.
3) Drago b Aerostar, Taiji Ishimori Drago pinned Aerostar
4) Daga & Taya b Aja Kong & Australian Suicide Daga beats Suicide again
5) Pagano b Psycho Clown hardcore match, with a barbed wire board coming into play
6) Akebono, Marufuji, Rey Mysterio Jr. b Brian Cage, Pentagón Jr., Texano Jr.
AAA posted the January 2010 taping from Ecatepec. This show had a memorable destruction of the Vipers 2.0, who won by DQ after La Secta wouldn’t stop beating them. IIRC, half were never seen again, and the other half had one more match.
An article on the Blue Demon Televisa TV show mentions the series is “10% reality, 90% fiction”. This is explained as a positive thing. This is not trying to be like the movies, but a fictionalized take on what the real life of Blue Demon could’ve been life (so he won’t be walking around fighting zombies in his mask, but unmasked and less zombies.) The show was originally hyped as airing on Televisa itself and may still, but that article instead mentions as a November 11th start date on Blim, a Televisa owned Netflix competitor (generally seen as weaker for having a small library.)
UNAM will have another lucha libre lecture on 10/28, entitled “La lucha libre en la actualidad” with Lola Gonzalez, Lady Apache and Dr. Jekyll. I think “La Actualidad” means “currently.” Both Gonzalez and Apache have had fascinating careers, but I’m not sure they’re great guests to talk about lucha currently unless a time machine is involved. The lecture will be at 1:30, there will be a women’s wrestling show at 3pm. I’m pretty sure I couldn’t get RobViper to go back to UNAM for this one.
We still don’t know when Dorada is finishing. Mick Foley was in Mexico doing press for the December tour, and he has no idea either. But, if by some chance, this is the last night for Dorada, he’s going to leave CMLL and join WWE by being literally dragged to hell. Dia de Muertos is amazing.
I’ve talked myself into believe Hechicero is a slight favorite. He’s the Dia de Muertos spokesperson this year, which always seemed to work out will for Ultimo Guerrero. Bucanero only got this title because Diamante Azul was leaving, they haven’t had much of an idea for it since and Bucanero really shouldn’t be doing singles matches at this point. (I’m shocked he got up to four defenses.) Also, Hechicero is cool like I used to think Rey Bucanero was cool so I’m not thinking about this at all rationally. This title match would be happening the same time as Game 6 of the World Series, so it could be a spectacularly happy day or an all time crusher. Can’t wait!
Hey, another women’s match in Arena Mexico. I mean, if you want to think about it optimistically, there was a complaint that there’s too much CMLL to follow and CMLL’s helpfully taken care of that by making the first half of their cards really skippable. So much less CMLL to watch.
CMLL (TUE) 11/01/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Metatrón & Neutrón vs Demonio Rojo & Mr. Trueno
2) Magnum, Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Joker, Puma, Tiger
3) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Bobby Z, Sam Adonis, Virus
4) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy vs Cavernario, Euforia, Gran Guerrero
5) Rush vs Shocker
Guadalajara gets it’s own Dia de Muertos show, though I don’t think Shocker is cosplaying as a zombie. He’s just a little slow. This is where I need that scary dream vignette where Shocker’s nightmare is becoming ugly.
MDA (SUN) 11/27/2016Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Lady Jaguar & Sexy Piscis vs La Gaviota & Lady Flammer
2) Ángel Dorado Jr., Babe Fox, the Tiger (Tamaulipas) vs Jesse, Pequeño Tekilita, Tekilita
3) Epydemius, Hijo de LA Park, Ninja Jr. vs Androide, Diluvio Negro I, Diluvio Negro II
4) Súper Muñeco, Súper Muñeco Jr., Súper Pinocho vs Coco Amarillo, Coco Azul, Coco Rojo
5) Groon XXX, Mr. Elektro, Xtreme Tiger vs Antifaz, LA Park, Lizmark Jr.
6) Delta vs Galactar [mask]
Delta’s favored to win the mask match, but it’s not impossible that he’s decided to leave wrestling after leaving CMLL and this is the end. Galactar has been getting the better of Delta all the time until now, so it’s like 90% chance Delta is going to win this, but that’d usually be 95% or 98%. Fourth match is of note, because Box Y Lucha says Super Muneco & Super Pinocho are having problem as a team.
Top 4 matches aired last night, but the AYM feed was barely working. It’ll air on TV on AYM and LAS over the next week. Hair match sounds worth checking out.
CMLL (SUN) 10/23/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Johnny Dinamo b El Diplomático Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Mr. Brisa & Relámpago b Cosmos & El Alteño Rudos took 1/3.
3) El Divino, Sky Kid, Smaker b Demonio Rojo, Gran Kenut, Thunder Boy Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Évola b El Yaqui Evola took 1/3, cleanly. Sets up a hair match next week.
5) Joker, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno b Metatrón, Nautilius, Neutrón Rudos took 2/3
Evola’s won all the matches leading up to the hair match, which usually means one outcome.
CMLL (MON) 10/24/2016Arena Puebla [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo]
1) Astro, Black Tiger, Meyer b Espíritu Maligno, Guerrero Espacial, Policeman Black Tiger replaced Zaeta Roja.
2) Pegasso, Soberano Jr., Star Jr. b Ares, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr. Pegasso replaced Hombre Bala Jr.
3) Bobby Z, Felino, Pólvora b Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma, Stuka Jr.
4) Negro Casas, Shocker, Vangellys b Atlantis, Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, La Máscara b Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. straight falls, leading to a trios title match.
I haven’t watched this yet and reports from people who watched it live suggested I probably shouldn’t bother. It was a quick show (1h45m) and none of the matches were particularly good and some where not good. Going for a random trios title match instead of Casas/Atlantis is disappointing. I think maybe we’ve reached the point where they’re just not going to do occasional Casas matches; a scheduled Casas/Arandu match in Tijuana this weekend suddenly became an Casas/Arandu/Maximo match instead.
Tonight’s CMLL Arena Mexico card has a Mascara Dorada, Mistico and Diamante Azul against Mephisto, Ephesto, Luciferno trios main event. The CMLL preview pushes it as a Dorada/Mephisto direct issue, though a trios title match would make more sense (as they already have a singles match next week and why is Luciferno even here if not for the trios titles.)
The semimain is a little less certain. It’s a cibernetico for a shot at Rey Bucanero’s NWA Light Heavyweight Championship. The 12 people involved are Atlantis, La Máscara, Valiente, Gran Guerrero, Johnny Idol, Vangellys, Stuka Jr., Bobby Z, Blue Panther Jr., Hechicero, Esfinge, and Misterioso. It’d make most sense for the winner to be a tecnico challenger, and someone who’s not otherwise getting a big match or isn’t already a champion, which would cut the list due to Johnny Idol and Stuka Junior. However, CMLL introduced Hechicero as the spokesperson for the Dia de Muertos shows, and he’s not even been on any of the announced lineups yet. There’s an outside chance he might get his chance here.
The tercera has Drone, Guerrero Maya (sub for Rey Cometa) and the Panther versus Kraneo, Ripper and Polvora. The second match is a women’s match with Princesa Sugehit, Lluvia, Skadi versus Tiffany, La Comandante, and Seductora – you may want to watch that with your hands in front of your eyes. Shockercito & Ultimo Dragoncito versus Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Nitro is the opener. That’s the third time we’ve seen that rudo team in six weeks.
The show airs at 7:30pm CT on CMLL.com/YouTube. I’m pretty low on the first two matches, but would probably try to watch this one live if there weren’t other things going on.
The 10/23 Arena Jose Sulaiman (Monterrey) show had the Santos versus Silver Kings match that’s going around venues in the country. Attendance didn’t seem great (though that building’s had worse for ‘big’ shows.) Finish was Silver King coming in and attacking Hijo del Santo, because Hijo del Santo had earlier demanded Super Parka unmask since Santo had long ago beaten him for the mask. The problem with that is Santo also beat Silver King for his mask long ago, and Silver King just wrestled in his mask without issue. Anyway, they seemed to be teasing Santo/Parka in a hair match.
Diamond Stars Wrestling (Japan) has a REINA-CMLL International (Women’s) Champion versus NWA Women’s Championship match where they’re pushing there will be no draws and someone will end up with both belts. Neither person is all that lucha related, but there’s a decent chance this is the end of the REINA-CMLL belt and I’m always happy when a CMLL belt might go away. (If it doesn’t, it would probably mean the NWA is the possession of a CMLL title.)
IWRG (WED) 10/26/2016Arena Naucalpan
1) Bambino & Último Caballero vs Canario & Fly Tiger
2) Lilith Dark, Omega, Voltar vs Bomberita, Charly Boy, Oficialito
3) Fireman, Keiser Drago, Shadow Boy vs Cadillac, Keshin Black, Kira
4) Leo, Mike, Teelo vs Bombero Infernal, Picudo Jr., Skanda
5) Aramis, Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Dragón Fly, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon vs Ahijado de la Muerte, American Star, Cósmico, Luis Cirio, Luis Cirio Jr., Manny Cirio, Pequeño Unicornio, Tony Cirio Jr. [Torneo FILL] Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Arena 2 de Junio (Tony Cirio)
I added this to the database a few days ago but it didn’t make it here. The unexpect Cirios appearance on the regular card look like they were a setup to this match.
The Sky Team defend against random challengers, in a defense which would tie the (known) record number of trios title defense. I could swear we just saw the fourth match, only with Ultimo Guerrero in there. Third match will have weird finishes. Second match has the latest return of Lestat, who hasn’t been around since December and only been listed a few times on Puebla indie matches.
Stuff missing: Elite didn’t post their show on their website. IWRG aired, but it was unwatchable on the internet stream. It may air on TV this week and I’ll try to get it that way.
Stuff added: the Guadalajara stream is now airing Tuesday shows on Saturday nights. (They’ve been airing them for a couple years, but the stream wasn’t airing them.) Hopefully I’ll have them going forward. Also, I guess I forgot to put the PROESA matches on YouTube last week.
CMLL Lucha Libre Retro: 2016-10-21
taped 2016-09-03 @ Arena Coliseo Cloud Drive
1) Soberano Jr., Starman, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Skándalo
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Titán vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Kráneo
CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-10-21
taped 2016-10-21 @ Arena México Cloud Drive
1) Eléctrico & Último Dragóncito vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Metálica
4) Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Rush vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
CMLL Universal Block B
AAA on Televisa: 2016-10-22
taped 2016-10-14 @ Plaza de Toros Jorge Gutierrez, Tlahuelilpan, Hidalgo Cloud Drive
1) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs La Hiedra & Mamba
2) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Dizzy, Parka Negra, Súper Fly
3) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
CMLL Guadalajara: 2016-10-22
taped 2016-10-18 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Cloud Drive
1) Blue Panther, Esfinge, Johnny Idol vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
2) Dragón Lee, Máximo Sexy, Rush vs Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Último Guerrero
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2016-10-22
taped 2016-10-10 @ Arena Puebla Cloud Drive
1) Stigma, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Skándalo
2) Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy, Valiente vs Kráneo, Ripper, Sam Adonis
3) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Felino, Mephisto
PROESA on Efekto: 2016-10-22
taped 2016-09-11 @ Arena Azteca Budokan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México Cloud Drive
1) Avenger, Mitico, Mr. Bronce vs Estrella Blanca, Halcón 78, Reassy
2) As Charro & Cirjuano vs Siniestro & Tyson La Bestia
3) Canek Jr. & Fishman Jr. vs Anonimus & Licar
Noches de Coliseo: 2016-10-23
taped 2016-10-16 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey Cloud Drive
1) Delta vs Galactarin a bull terrier match
2) LA Park, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Stuka I vs Jerry Estrada, Máscara Sagrada, Rush
I actually watched the highlights videos before writing about this. Hooray for basic competency. Hechicero/Guevera sounds like it got the best reviews live. The trios match translates to highlights the best, because it appears nothing but craziness. It’s also the CMLL guys getting to do a 100% more than normal; if you’re frustrated by seeing them have ** matches with Arkangel & Nitro forever, maybe you’ll want to check that out (or maybe you won’t because it’ll make you depressed.) Looks like a pretty good crowd.
A running theme in the WON’s coverage of the Crash (covered more now because Konnan is booking for them) is how they’re not high on using the CMLL guys because they didn’t want to lose or do much with the indie guys. That hasn’t been the case in Lucha Memes in the past, and it does look like the CMLL guys worked very hard in the matches with Black Terry Jr. highlights. On the other hand, CMLL luchadors used to (surprisingly) lose a bit here. They did go 4-0 last night. Maybe a booking idea, maybe CMLL people putting their foot down.
From one promotion booking CMLL luchadors in more interesting matches than CMLL to another. NJPW & CMLL announced the dates for the annual tour.
01/13 Friday: Osaka (EDION Arena Osaka)
01/14 Saturday: Ehime (Ehime World Trade Center)
01/15 Sunday: Kyoto (KBS Hall)
01/16 Monday: location to be announced – NJPW doesn’t list this one
01/20 Friday: Korakuen Hall
01/21 Saturday: Korakuen Hall
01/22 Sunday: Korakuen Hall
A ten day trip is the longest tour so far, and it’d be the most shows of that Monday show is happening. Kind of think it will be, because it’s a long gap of doing nothing if they’re just running the weekends. Tickets start to go on sale for the Osaka show on the 11/05 PPV, which is probably why they’re announcing it now (and it’s about when they announce it every year), but it does come just happen to come a couple days before the AAA show in Japan for people who are deciding how to spend their lucha dollars in Japan. Ehime is a new location for the tour, replacing Kōchi.
The Korakuen Hall shows are definitely to be on NJPW World. The other tour stops were not, but aired on Samurai TV and made their way to the internet. The list of talent usually goes out in mid November, around the time the tickets go on sale for the general public (11/15 in Osaka, 11/21 elsewhere) and we usually get the matches a couple days after the Tokyo Dome show. The Sunday main event is usually the biggest match on the tour. KUSHIDA signaled he’d like to defend the IWGP Junior championship against Volador back at the Super J tournament. Assuming KUSHIDA is champion and healthy in January, I’d guess that’s title match is the main event.
There’s a Puebla show tonight! The main event is the Sky Team teaming up before Valiente & Volador face off in the CMLL Universal on Friday. They take on Euforia, Gran Guerrero and La Mascara. It’s possible they could set up a trios title match, but it seems more likely the feud already was started in the semimain. Negro Casas fouled Atlantis last week, and they rematch with the same other four: Johnny Idol, Maximo, Sam Adonis and Shocker.
The undercard matches might be good? They look better than usual. Guerrero Maya, Rey Cometa and Stigma face Bobby Z, Felino and Polvora in the tercera. Ares, Rey Apocalipsis, and Toro Bill are scheduled to face Star Jr., Soberano Jr. and Hombre Bala Jr., but Hombre Bala Jr. doesn’t exist any more. 50/50 if Drone wrestles instead or if they just send Flyer or Robin instead. Opener is Astro, Meyer, Zaeta Roja vs Espiritu Maligno, Guerrero Espacial, and Policeman.
The show will air on CMLL.com and YouTube at 9pm as usual.
This came out late last week but I haven’t had it up until now. The main event is notable; Rocky Lobo is leaving in a few months and will likely not be tag team champion when he goes, and Dragon Rojo & Polvora have been regulars and winning a fair amount in DTU. A title change here actually seems more likely than not.
Black Terry Jr. posted video of the injury: Fly Warrior & Rey Fenix were rope walking at the same time (!) and it didn’t end well. Main event was said to be pretty good up until that point (and the results may have just been to get out of the match at that point.) There’s a hospital across the street from Arena San Juan and he was taken there, but there’s no update on how he’s doing. Even with that main event, attendance doesn’t look good for the promotion again.
I want to save the Lucha Memes show tomorrow in hopes people will write more about it so I can take from them and sound smart. All the expected good matches delivered, so that’s a strong sign.
CMLL (SUN) 10/23/2016Arena México [CMLL]
1) Fantasy & Stukita b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia
2) La Jarochita, Lluvia, Princesa Sugehit b La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis tecnicas took 1/3
3) Bobby Z, Pólvora, Vangellys b Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Rey Cometa Rudos took 1/3
4) Mistico, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. b Felino, La Máscara, Mephisto Tecnicos took 1/3
5) Mr. Niebla, Pierroth, Rush DQ Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles] Team Rush took 1/3, the last via foul on UG. They set up a singles match next week.
Ultimo Guerrero versus Rush wasn’t particularly great last time they did it, and they ran it two years ago when they started this concept. CMLL doesn’t like to mix up the matches all that match.
LU noon (SUN) 10/23/2016 Arizona State Fair, Phoenix, Arizona [PWPonderings]
1) Son of Havoc b Jack Evans the top rope broke in the first 90 seconds of the match and the rest of the ropes did not look much better. They finished the match and fixed the ropes.
2) Ivelisse b Mariposa, Taya
3) Johnny Mundo b Cage [falls count anywhere] Taya helped Mundo win.
LU 3pm (SUN) 10/23/2016 Arizona State Fair, Phoenix, Arizona [PWPonderings]
1) Drago b Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr.
2) Kevin Kross b Ricky Mandell
3) Pentagón Dark b Mil Muertes [no dq] Vampiro was scheduled to be ringside enforcer, and was even announced as doing by Melissa Santos, but wasn’t part of it – he was seen working on the show at other points
Attendance looked around 300, more for the second show than the first, but probably also a lot of people going to both shows. The fair itself didn’t seem super busy, and this audience seemed mostly fans of a low rated TV show who only knew about this show via social media. I think it’s a good number, given the context. The flipside is they brought 15 wrestlers + 1 Melissa + how many production people for a $0 gate. It’s more people working the show than I would’ve guessed and not as profitable as they could’ve made it, if that was the goal. I don’t think that’s the goal. I’m not entirely sure of the goal of a Lucha Underground event, which is normal. Hopefully Cricket’s brand was properly activated (?)
Suicide & Garza Jr. are not in Season 3 of Lucha Underground as far as I know. Kross was part of dark matches during the season and is signed (which often means that person will turn up in vignettes around the end of the season.) Ricky Mandell was on the show this season, even as Ricky Mandell, but I’d suspect half the people watching the show don’t remember him. That LU brought in new/unknown people to fill out the card and made sure no one worked twice was a real surprise; if you’re going to these shows, expect the people working the early show aren’t going to be around for the second one.
The event also included a museum of Lucha Underground props and costumes, and a merch stand. It sounded like there were some shirts and not much else (so a lot like the set up at the Temple.)
AAA posted this week’s TV show. Pagano, Dinastia, Mamba and Hijo del Tirantes have made it to Japan. Texano talked to Record about the tour and says he knows it won’t be the last trip and hopes it become three or four shows a year. Those who worked the LU shows sound like they’re flying out of Los Angeles tomorrow (which might explain sending Suicide – but then wouldn’t you send Daga too instead of Garza? I’m over thinking this.)
ELITE (FRI) 10/28/2016Domo del Deportivo Plan Sexenal, Distrito Federal
1) Hijo del Pantera & Mr. Leo vs Belial & Impulso
2) Emperador Azteca & Heddi Karaoui vs Imposible & Metaleón
3) El Bandido, Golden Magic, Zumbi vs Hijo De Dos Caras, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Karonte Jr.
4) Cibernético & Taurus (ex-AAA) vs Chicano & Mr. 450
5) Xtreme Tiger vs LA Park [Liga Elite]
6) Carístico vs Rey Escorpión [Liga Elite]
Caristico gets his match with Rey Escorpion, which is one of the bigger matches they’ve been setting up. (A mask/hair match with those two would probably be a good idea.) Xtreme Tiger/LA Park seems less smooth. They need to add more people to the “Liga Elite” matches; they’re down to combination of Caristico, Tiger, Rey Escorpion, LA Park, Cibernetico and Blue Demon, which isn’t enough and produces some not great matches.
I’d assume the Chicano in the semimain is the Puerto Rico one, since he’s teaming with Mr. 450. He was “Camacho” when he was around for the international tournament. Opener, with the Indystructibles showing up, looks like it’ll be a lot of fun.
CMLL (SAT) 10/29/2016Arena Coliseo
1) Acero & Fantasy vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Cancerbero, Canelo Casas, Raziel vs Artillero, Hijo del Signo, Inquisidor
3) Oro Jr., Pegasso, The Panther vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
4) Blue Panther, Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Kráneo, Ripper, Sam Adonis
5) Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible vs Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Valiente
Drone in the semimain, when Hombre Bala probably would’ve been in the tercera. He definitely seemed ranked above the Panther. That semimain is the best match on the show. No idea why they’re having rudos/rudos against each other, unless there was a dare to book the match I’d be least interested in watching. It could just be a numbers things; guessing lots of the next week is based on Dia de los Muertos outfits.
CMLL (SUN) 10/30/2016Arena México
1) Acero, Astral, Stukita vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia
2) Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Morphosis, Tiger
3) La Jarochita, Lluvia, Silueta vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
5) Rush vs Último Guerrero
Not a great show outside the main event (if they feel like it) and maybe the second match.
CMLL had Hechicero introduce the Dia de Muertos concept and he’s not on any of the shows. Maybe he’s a evil god on Friday (or maybe he’s in route to ROH.) He had previously been announced for a show in Xalapa on 10/30.
It was askeddemanded I write about the women. I guess I can.
Women’s matches per CMLL Arena Mexico card, by month:
August: 7 shows without women’s matches, 5 shows with women
September: 8 shows without women’s matches, 5 shows with women
October: 4 shows without women’s matches, 8 shows with women
What happened? It’s not like the division suddenly caught fire with great matches. That match up there for Sunday has a good chance of being the same update of a 2.5 star/ok encounter as basically every other trios match they run. It’s not like there’s a hot angle, or even any angle at all – there’s been nothing until Marcela/Dalys was restarted a couple days ago, and there were more women’s singles matches in August (2) than there’s been in the following two months (0). Even fans of the women would probably say they’ve seen enough trios matches and would like something beyond that.
I think some tie up with the Kimberly Clark sponsorship, which seemed to begin in September, is a weird/obvious but possibility, but CMLL hasn’t even slightly hinted at any “we’re putting more women’s matches on to appeal to women to sell women’s products” concept. It’s possible I’m looking too narrow and women are in Arena Mexico because they haven’t been used in Puebla or Guadalajara as much, but it wouldn’t explain why the women are suddenly in the third match and not the second. It’s possible there’s some earlier deficit being fixed (like how Adonis/Idol seemed to be not used for a month and then were seemingly booked on every show for two weeks.) Whatever it is, it’s gone on too long to be an accident, and it’s not been really for the benefit of these shows. I’d like matches that are good, and I’d like matches which might go somewhere at some point. CMLL hasn’t had enough of either the last couple months.
CMLL (SUN) 10/30/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Micro vs Guerrero de la Muerte & Quca
2) Black Sugar & Johnny Dinamo vs Destello & Destructor
3) Capitán Cobra, El Alteño, Fugaz vs Gran Kenut, Linterna, Mr. Brisa
4) Explosivo, Magnum, Star Black vs Espectrúm, Furia Roja, Sádico
5) El Yaqui vs Évola [hair]
I couldn’t identify Yaqui in a lineup, but he’s a favorite to beat veteran rudo Evola.
DTU (THU) 11/17/2016Arena Aficion
1) Masizito & Porrito vs Erwing & Irving
2) El Exótico vs Lokillo, Moria, Niño De Cobra, Rey Celestial
3) El Gio & El Junior vs Rey Infierno & Tony Iron and Ángel o Demonio & Ovett
4) Gallego & Mr. Cóndor vs Jimmy & Kevin
5) Dalys & Zeuxis vs La Magnifica & Zuzu Divine
6) Cíclope & Crazy King vs Diva Salvaje & Yuriko
7) Dragón Rojo Jr. & Pólvora vs Drastik Boy & Ronnie Mendoza
8) Flamita, Hormiga, Mistico II vs Aeroboy, Black Fire, Negro Casas
Hormiga & Black Fire started a feud for Fire’s Alto Impacto championship on the DTU show this weekend, so that’s probably the actual finish of the main event. Mistico & Flamita versus Aeroboy & Negro Casas is just a nice bonus. Dragon Rojo & Polvora have been regulars here.