CMLL Puebla: 2015-09-07

war of 2015

Recapped: 09/07/201

What happened that mattered? Marcela kept the CMLL Women’s championship by defeating Zeuxis. Mr. Niebla outsmarted La Mascara to win the main events singles match via DQ. Rey Escorpion & Mistico feuded in the semimain, which could be setting up a singles match between them.

How can I watch? It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Should I watch? Maybe a little of it. I liked Marcela/Zeuxis more the consensus but it was still a bit disappointing. The segunda (36 minute mark), with another Rey Apocaplipsis/Toro Bill Jr. appearance was the best match on the show. Dragon Lee & Kamaitachi sat out most of their match, though they were great when they were in. Most of the rest were ordinary matches. Main event was predictably poor. (more…)

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LA Park off all CMLL lineups

The usual Monday lineup changes brought one big surprise: LA Park is no longer on CMLL lineups. The Familia Real main event this week now includes Valiente is no longer the main event. Shocker takes LA Park’s place two weeks from now on the Anniversary show. 

It’s unknown what caused the change. LA Park has been active on Twitter, but only RT every comment about him so who knows what he really thinks. It appears to be a CMLL decision. LA Park was fired previously for acting in ways CMLL did not want,  and maybe it’s as simple as Park doing or saying some CMLL did not want.

This hurts the Anniversary card, which was surprisingly unnoteworthy already. This also means the teased Rush/LA Park hair match is off. CMLL keeps bringing back Mr. Niebla after his issues and could always do same here but, for the moment, it seems like yet another bad exit from a promotion for LA Park.

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X-Fly wins again (?), Puebla preview, Yoruba & Kilvan

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 09/06/2015 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, IWRG]
1) Acero & Picudo Jr. b Black Niko & Kanon
straight falls
2) Atomic Star, Ram El Carnero, Vortize b Dragón Bane, Eternus, Omega
Main show debut for Eternus.
3) Emperador Azteca, Metaleón, Mr. Leo b Diablo Jr. I, Hip Hop Man, Imposible
money thrown in. Metaleon again challenged Imposible to a title match.
4) Hijo del Pantera, Pantera, Pantera I DQ Black Terry, Freelance, Mike Segura
Freelance’s first IWRG match since 2013. Pantera (II) may be known as Internacional Pantera now. Suicida hit the referee by mistake twice, earning the DQ on the second one.
5) X-Fly b Shu el Guerrero, Máscara Sagrada, Veneno, Rafy, Spector, Rayan, Hijo De Dos Caras, Relámpago, Negro Navarro, Súper Nova, Eterno, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Leo, El Golpeador, Danny Casas, Golden Magic, Canis Lupus, El Hijo del Diablo, Oficial 911 [Gran Cruzada]
battle royal rules. Winner gets a shot at the Rey de Reyes or a title shot against the champion of their division. Match came down to Shu el Guerrero (in his first IWRG appearance since 2011) & X-Fly, with X-Fly winning. He challenged Hijo de Dos Caras for the heavyweight title next week.

X-Fly is on a winning streak and going for the title. Doesn’t get bigger than that.

Today’s Puebla show has two singles matches. National champion Zeuxis challenges Marcela for the world championship in what’s nearly a two women Universal tournament. The outcome is not in doubt, but it’s one of CMLL’s best possible women’s singles matches and a treat after last week’s lackluster show.

(Reina International Juniors champion Silueta is the only other women’s champion – at least for now, she’s got a surprising title defense against Keira on Wednesday.)

The other singles match is La Mascara versus Mr. Niebla, which should at least be memorable. Maybe they’ll break out the casita driver again. The locals are back on this week’s show, including the Rey Apocalipsis/Toro Bill Jr. team. Show starts at 9pm CT, and will air on YouTube as usual.

Yoruba & Kilvan talk about their upcoming trip to Kageki Pro Wrestling in Japan. The promotion’s website lists them on 09/19 and 09/23 shows.

Black Terry Jr. has photos of yesterday’s ChilangaMask show.

Ultimo Guerrero is already defending his newly won NWA middleweight title, against Piloto Suicida in Arena Olimpcio Laguna this Thursday.

Segunda Caida reviews Hijo del Santo, Misterioso, Ultimo Dragon vs Emilio Charles JR., Fuerza Guerrera, La Fiera.

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AAA team wins King of Trios, Chilanga Mask, Crazy Boy out, DTU, CMLL


CMLL (SAT) 09/05/2015 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Cholo b Bengala
the Cholo Driver sent Bengala to the back on a stretcher
2) Robin b Inquisidor
Tiger Bomb for the win
3) Flyer DCOR Hijo del Signo
They were brawling outside after a dive when the referee reached 20.
4) Canelo Casas b Súper Halcón Jr.
Canelo won with a powerbomb.
5) Arkángel de la Muerte b Hombre Bala Jr.
6) Pierroth & Sagrado b Fuego & Tritón
7) Dragon Lee, La Máscara, Volador Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
Mascara beat Dragon Rojo with a casita, demanded a shot at Dragon Rojo’s CMLL middleweight title.

I’m okay with La Macsara & Dragon Rojo having title matches on the non-TV show.

CMLL (SUN) 09/06/2015 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Último Dragoncito b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Magnus, Oro Jr., Soberano Jr. b Akuma, Artillero, Súper Comando
3) Disturbio, Pierroth, Sagrado b Delta, Esfinge, Tritón
4) Dragon Lee b Virus [lightning]
Dragon Lee surprised Virus by brekaing out a casita to get the cradle win.
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja b Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán
6) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

Not much news on this one.

CMLL has an English language promo for the IPPV, which is more English language promotion than I’d expect. There’s no sign of any English language commentary or anything (and one of their English language commentators is going to be busy with her farewell match on the show!)

Dave Meltzer mentioned he heard the iPPV would NOT be available in Mexico. None of the advertisements for the show I’ve seen have indicated that – they’ve said it’ll be available all over the world. If you’re in Mexico and have successfully bought the iPPV, let me know.

I haven’t heard anything about VOD being available. Shows like this are already on VOD, but it’s the first time so nothing’s for sure. VOD always allows you to buy after the fact; if you’re going to be watching the ROH show or otherwise busy on 09/18, I’d just wait until you’re ready to watch to put your money down to be sure.

ChilangaMask (SUN) 09/06/2015 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV]
1) Karma b Black Drago
2) Dragón Fly & Hijo Del Angel b Astro Rey Jr. & Psycho Kid
Astro & Psycho laid out Dragon Fly & Hijo del Angel after the match, challenging Angel to a title match.
3) Silueta b India Sioux
4) Solar I & Tigre Universitario b Black Terry & Jeque
Solar replaced Caifan. Said to be a good match, though Tigre hurt his shoulder. (He was later spotted in the crowd at Arena Mexico, so it must’ve not been too serious.)
5) Pagano b Aero Boy, Violento Jack, Cíclope, Fly Warrior
Masada was scheduled but could not make it due to Visa issues. This match was changed to a five way, with Fly Warrior also replacing Ray Rowe. Elimination match, with Pagano beating Violento Jack after unmasking him.
6) Fly Star, Fulgor I, Fulgor II b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid and Arez, Belial, Impulso
Fly Star replaced Inmortal. Good match.
7) Raymond Rowe b Caifan
bonus singles match. Good match.

Rowe/Caifan is an interesting bonus match. Rowe’s won both his ChilangaMask matches so far. Caifan moves on from this singles match to one versus Ultimo Guerrero on the 09/20 ChilangaMask show.

Remember when Flamita was secretly listed on Verano de Escandalo’s lineup but also booked in the Mexico City area and we were trying to figure out if it would be possible to do make in Monterrey in time? Pagano decided to find out: after working the ChilangaMask show here, he was flying to Arena Coliseo Monterrey to fight LA Park & Nicho. That’s a man in demand. I’m amazed how much the extreme style guys can do, given that style has to be more punishing to your body. This seems like an especially long night for Pagano.

Paranoikio says he’s going to be running a benefit show for Crazy Boy soon and is looking for help. Crazy Boy went in for an unspecified surgery on Thursday, got out of the hospital on Friday, was in so much pain that he had to return on Saturday and is supposed to get out again after a day. Paranoiko says Crazy Boy is only making money via lucha libre and the medical treatment is costing a lot, so he’s hoping to help out. I’m not sure if this means Crazy Boy is off the DTU shows next week; I’d assume so but you never know.

Fenix, Aerostar and Drago won CHIKARA’s King of Trios, defeating the Young Bucks & AJ Styles in the final. This really surprised me; I actually thought they would be out first round and be used in the high flyers tournament on the second day. The AAA matches (one on each of the first two nights, two on the final) were said to be good. The shows are supposed to go up on CHIKARA’s website for viewing this weekend and a SD version of Day 1 is already up. CHIKARA’s been selling matches from their shows individually this year as well. Not sure if they’ll be doing it with this show.

On Saturday’s show, Fenix swore loudly in a promotion wearing the wrestlers are not supposed to use curse words. He apologized it before his first match, and was apologetic about it on Twitter earlier in the day. Judging from the little bit of Fenix we see on Twitter, he probably didn’t do it maliciously and was depressed after it happened. It appeared to be no big deal in the end.

Mascara Purpura participated in the Rey de Voladors tournament (losing in his semifinal) and in the tag team gauntlet (losing when partner Argos took the loss). It read like he did well in the flyer’s match.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

SuperLuchas looks back at the death of Salvadaor Lutteorth and Santo’s last Arena Mexico show, and the start of a middleweight tournament.

Ohtani’s Jacket reviews El Dandy vs Bestia Salvaje


DTU (THU) 09/17/2015 Arena Aficion
1) Chica Ye-Ye vs Joven Maravilla, ?, Perro Negro
2) Kevin vs Jimmy, Tony
3) Pesadilla vs Rocky Lobo, Lanzeloth, Artikus
4) Cerebro Negro, El Recio, Ovett vs Ángel o Demonio, Drako, Fantasma de la Ópera
5) Septimo Dragon vs Chico Che, Aero Power, El Exótico, Black Fire
6) Damián 666 vs Halloween, Psicosis I, One Man Kru
7) Cíclope & Violento Jack vs Aero Boy & Miedo Extremo

A lot of the partners fighting each other scourge, including the battle of the Nerds. Still a show I want to see.  Crazy Boy is not listed on this one, which makes more sense knowing about his surgery. (Though it makes it strange they didn’t know to take him off the show the day before.)

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Atlantis & LA Park win but lose thier masks, La Familia Real to main event Arena Mexico, AAA YouTube channel slightly alive

CMLL (FRI) 09/04/2015 Arena México [CMLL, R de Rudo]
1) Luciferno, Puma, Tiger b Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther
rudos took 1/3
2) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Kamaitachi, Mephisto
tecnicos took 1/3
3) Titán b Pólvora [lightning] PRIMERA LUCHA VIERNES 04 DE SEPTIEMBRE CMLL (1) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Titan won with his cradle in 7:34
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Super Porky b Boby Zavala, Rey Bucanero, Shocker SEGUNDA LUCHA VIERNES 04 DE SEPTIEMBRE CMLL (2) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas TERCERA LUCHA VIERNES 04 DE SEPTIEMBRE CMLL (3) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sky Team took 2/3
6) Atlantis & LA Park b Dr. Wagner Jr. & La Sombra CUARTA LUCHA VIERNES 04 DE SEPTIEMBRE CMLL (4) (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Atlantis & Park took falls 1/3. Finish was some accidental comedy. Sombra tried to get a pin with a cradle and the ropes, but Atlantis kicked out. Sombra argued with Tirantes, Atlantis tried for the same finish, but was nowhere near the ropes and had to let go of the pin to grab them. That was still enough for three. Wagner ran in and pulled off Atlantis mask, while Tirantes was arguing with Sombra. LA Park came in and took a weird route to run into Tirantes, then Wagner pulled Park’s mask too and cradled him. Wagner & Sombra pulled off Atlantis & LA Park’s masks post match and Sombra invited Wagner to the Ingobernables.

The post show interview seems to have left it as Dr. Wagner Jr. is invited to join the Ingobernables, Dr. Wagner likes the idea, but may not yet be an official member.

Earlier, Sombra said Atlantis isn’t old but he plans on retiring him.

The Sabado Retro main event is Dragon Rojo, Polvora and Hechicero vs La Mascara, Dragon Lee and Voldado Jr.

CMLL also confirms the Metalico versus Omar Brunetti match is set for September 15th, not the busier September 16th. (Maybe that’s the reason, people can pick up an extra day of work.) Metalico says, after he beats Omar, he wants to go after Blue Panther, Virus and Rey Cometa. A random list of people with no masks, basically.

AAA’s back to posting their TV shows on their YouTube channel, maybe. The Puebla part 1 show from a month ago went up last night. I hope they keep it up because that might be the only way to get it; I’ve tried about five different feeds this morning, and either they don’t work or AAA is being pre-empted for baseball.

ChilangaMask has a show on Sunday in Coacalco. The big match is a Masada & Aero Boy vs Pagano & Ciclope vs Ray Rowe & Violento Jack three way tag match.

Kcidis draws the Anniversary party waiting line.

Rush promo for Cara Lucha’s 9/16 show. How unlikely that they found him at the gym.

Mano a Mano interviews Zumbido.


CMLL (FRI) 09/11/2015 Arena México
1) Flyer & Robin vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito
3) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Rey Cometa vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Virus
4) La Máscara, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Cavernario, Hechicero, Negro Casas
5) Atlantis, Euforia, Último Guerrero vs La Sombra, Rey Escorpión, Thunder [Relevos Increíbles]
6) LA Park, Super Parka, Volador Jr. vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Marco Corleone, Rush

Super Parka returns to Arena Mexico for the first time since 2006 for the La Familia Real main event trio no one would’ve expected a few weeks ago. (Flyer’s even in the opener; maybe Hijo de LA Park will be lurking somewhere.) Teaming up the whole family is a special attraction, though it’s a bit odd to see it above the big mask match for next week.

Thunder returns from wherever he disappeared to one week early, as he and UG resume their feud with Atlantis & Sombra fighting one last time before the Anniversary show. Undercard has some promising matches, though the fourth would be so much better with anyone but La Mascara. All the Ingobernables are on this card, though they’re not teaming with each other.

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CMLL to air 82nd Anniversary show (Sombra/Atlantis) on their first ever iPPV

CMLL’s 82nd anniversary show, featuring Sombra versus Atlantis, will air as an iPPV $10 stream. (That’s about 170 Mexican Pesos.) It’s listed on their website, and you can order now. This is the first time CMLL has done an internet PPV, and the first time they appear to have done any sort of PPV since 2008.

The link on CMLL leads to a site named Cleeng, which primarily just processes payments. It’ll appears it’ll be CMLL who will be responsible for streaming. That’s worked perfectly when they’ve gone thru YouTube for CMLL Puebla shows, and it’s been a bit wavering quality on ClaroSports (though it’s never completely died.) It’s not clear what they’ll be using for these shows. Again, this is the first time they’re trying this, and we’ve learned there’s no guarantees on first times going well.

It’s slightly disappointing for those who’ve got to see the show for free in past years that it’ll be $10 this year, but it’s promising to see CMLL continue to put toes in the internet content business this year. $10 is cheap enough that any lucha fan won’t hesitate to get this show. It’s a low enough price that people who like to watch big shows from everywhere make give it as a try, though the dismal failure of TripleMania might make reasonable make some people hesitant to invest the time in watching this show, or even just watching the show live. (It’s not specifically said if the show will be available on VOD, though that’d be normal.)

CMLL announcing this two weeks ahead of suggests ticket sales continue to go well. The lineup isn’t as strong as it has in previous years, but it doesn’t seem to have slowed things down.

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09/10 AAA TV Lineup (Cancún)

AAA (THU) 09/10/2015 Plaza de Toros, Cancún, Quintana Roo
1) Argenis, Faby Apache, Goya Kong vs Apache, La Hiedra, Taya
2) Murder Clown & Psycho Clown vs Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr.
3) Drago, Fénix, La Parka vs Brian Cage, El Mesías, Hijo de Pirata Morgan
4) Angélico, Jack Evans, Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Joe Lider, Myzteziz, Pentagón Jr.

Air Date: 09/19 (everything else moves back a a week)

This didn’t appear to be a TV taping when they explained it at the press conference, but the poster says TV taping. It’s better than the Hard Rock show not being split into two tapings, but it’s also a couple of shows where not a lot will be happening. The Hard Rock lineup seems like the better one of the two; every match has at least one person who needs to be worked around.

The good news is, after a period where nothing much was going on with AAA, we’re in a period where there’s 3 tapings in 10 days and new matches airing on TV this weekend. Much more interesting.


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Friday preview, Mano Negra, Dark Angel, Boby Zavala

The Anniversary lineup is now set, which makes the next two Friday night shows exist just to preview that show. Tonight’s show has Atlantis & Sombra again meeting in the main event, this time with only LA Park & Dr. Wagner as partners. Rush gets the night off , and Volador drops to the semimain to team with the Sky Team against Peste Negra in a preview of another Anniversary match. There’s a few matches which have a chance to be pretty good – including Polvora versus Titan in a lightning match, the opener has the Panthers & Fuego versus Luciferno, Puma and Tiger – but this seems like a quiet show in terms of progressing any feuds.

The show will air on at 8:30 pm. You do not need a VPN/Hola to watch the show, it’s no longer region locked.

CMLL talked to Mano Negra about being a second to La Sombra to avenge his own mask loss to Atlantis. Mano Negra was asked about the same thing on CMLL Informa – these might be the same quotes – and said he’d be interested in helping Sombra unmasks Atlantis. The concept is Mano Negra wants revenge for losing his mask, but he’s masked in all the interviews he’s doing. It’s weird for me to do it that way, it kills the point. Anyway, this seems like a play directly to older fans; Mano Negra lost his mask to Atlantis 22 years ago and hasn’t been a full time CMLL luchador since 2002. You must have been following CMLL for many years to be invested in the Mano Negra/Atlantis feud.

Dark Angel seems to be doing a lot of press leading up to her farewell match. She’s interviewed ESTO talking about her farewell and is doing CMLL’s usual C3 TV interview. They’re sort of using Dark Angel farewell as the second draw on the show, in place of the usual hair or mask match. It’d be nice if they didn’t wait until she was leaving to give her a spotlight.

I thought maybe Boby Zavala was missing the Anniversary show due to his shoulder injury. The injury can’t be that bad, because he’s now on Tuesday’s lineup replacing Kamaitachi. It’s just appears to be another CMLL thing which doesn’t make any sense from the outside.

Cronicas y Leyendas hopes Atlantis uses a different move to win.

Tanahashi’s has a podcast where he talks to various NJPW people. He had the rookies on recently, and Yohei Komatsu mentioned he’d like to go to Mexico for his excursion. He’s the one who was in this year’s Best of Super Juniors. Kamaitachi is expected to return to Japan at the end of this year and the new rookie usually turns up around February, so maybe pencil Komatsu for turning up six months from now if he gets to pick. (He’s a rookie, so he may not.)

The SLP local promoters say the Heroes Inmortales card will be announced next week. The article implies the main event is Rey, Alberto & LA Park vs Cibernetico, Myteziz and Johnny Mundo – they’re all on the card, at least.

LuchaWorld has an interview with Volador Jr., where he talks about the reaction to his mask match, being unmasked, and the returns of LA Park & Dr. Wagner.

SegundaCaida reviews Corazon de Leon, La Fiera, Mocho Cota versus Bestia Salvaje, Emilio Charles Jr., and Mocha Cota.

SuperLuchas looks back at Pedro Nieves.

Rey Mysterio met with special needs children before the Tehuacan taping.

Yoruba explains why the teased hair match with Demus is not happening on CaraLucha’s September 09/16 show: he and Kilvan are heading to Japan.

Blue Panther talks about returning to Arena Olimpico Laguna for a couple of matches, declares Blue Panther Jr. and The Panther are not his sons, but the sons of lucha libre.

A TV story on Babe Face and his rice stand.

Birthday wishes for Black Terry.

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lucha TV preview for September 5


  • let’s hope they don’t edit Kamaitachi and Dragon Lee on CMLL Claro
  • AAA is finally airing something beyond TripleMania. Hooray. It’s probably a good show, though I have no idea what’s going to air.
  • Marcela vs Zeuxis on CMLL Puebla should be very good as well

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