Saturday, I got home in the evening, not feeling well, and noticed my computer said it was running low on hard disk space. I thought to myself “that’s probably something I should take care of (tomorrow)” and went to bed very early. I woke up the next morning to find out my computer was actually out of space entirely, having filled up during the airing of the CMLL Guadalajara show. It’s an MP4 recording so, if it doesn’t close cleanly, it’s completely unplayable. This happens one way or another every six months, I spend most of a day trying to find a way to save it, and I usually just end up very frustrated. The Puma/Esfinge match is in here, but I can’t get to it.
No midweek IWRG this week (AAA show instead). AAA repeated Dave/Parka as their extra match. Not much else.
CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-12-09
taped 2017-12-01 @ Arena México – Mega
1) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Silueta vs Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany
2) Marco Corleone, Titán, Valiente vs Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mr. Niebla
(6:50 [2:35, 4:15], 1/2 DQ, ok via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero
(11:43 [5:12, 3:56, 2:35], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ephesto fouled Stuka in the semimain. That didn’t go anywhere. That’s it.
Marco is the right main eventer for these Tuesday shows. He gets over really easy with the casual fans, and those fans in generally seem to react the intended ways for the matches. A lot of the match, especially the first fall and third fall, was getting the crowd to react to spots and it all worked for them. He should on Tuesday shows a lot, though maybe that doesn’t work out financially. Niebla Roja had better chemistry than Negro Casas than Gran Guerrero. It’s Casas, everyone’s good with Casas, but there’s nothing left over from the Anniversario show. There wasn’t much there to begin with, and Niebla’s essentially a new person now.
The semimain is a by numbers quick match, with not much to it. It’s interesting they were going with a Stuka/Ephesto direction. If it was meant to be going anywhere (doubtful because neither man has a title), it was dropped to do the Johnny Idol heel turn again. Mr. Niebla took a Titan diving headscissors to the floor and it want perfectly fine.
The técnico/tecnico lightning match didn’t feel much different than usual. Neither guy hinted toward being a rudo, but no one really plays strong rudo in these anyway, and they did the same set up of dives and not many near falls as they’d do in any other lightning match. Pegasso reacted well to Fuego anyway. Pegasso’s 450 splash causing his downfall was a nice touch, but they really botched Fuego’s cradle as the finish. They really should’ve gotten up to do something more rather than end it like that.
The women’s match starts with a sequence where Reina Isis or Silueta seems to forget what they’re doing. It improved, but never that better. Silueta would be a lot better if she was a little bit faster.
The second match might be a bit of a sliding scale for the second match, but it came off as fun when I watched it. One of the downsides to getting to see so much of CMLL is you see guys very early in their careers quite a bit, and those first years of performance can solidify an opinion of a wrestler that’s tough to shake. Akuma started appearing on these shows at 17, wasn’t much of a guy, and was easy to right off as a someone who would never been a guy. Either something’s clicked with him in the last six month or so, or it took me a while to notice, but he’s a much better rudo now, with him and Flyer matching up very well in the third fall. He’s still only 22. Robin looked more agile than ever here; he hasn’t done that ramp armdrag much, and I can’t recall the cool dive he did either. These guys have been in the opening matches for so long that it’s going to be tough to get the fans to take them as something else, but at least there’s a chance for some good matches with the Fiero/Templario class that’s coming. Even Astral, looking every bit like a man who’s two days away from his biggest competition of the year, still was moving around fine and pulling off good highspots. This is not must see, but it was fun and hopeful.
Mini opener was an ordinary match. Stukita has added a dance to his ole waves. Mercurio can do a lot of stuff when he wants to. He doesn’t want to often. Pequeño Olímpico is at better shape at his age than I will be, but I am not trying to be a professional athlete so I’m not sure that’s a fair comparison.
Attendance seems was very slight; maybe a little bit better than those first pictures but also maybe struggling to reach 100 people. No one draws well going against the LigaMX final, but it also suggests no one really cares all that much about these guys right now. People will show up next week because it’s a mask match, and maybe they’ll show again if they’re really doing Capos versus Piratas in an apuesta match, but IWRG’s hasn’t been able to turn any of their local guys into big stars of late (probably because their booking is so random week to week.)
Negro Casas is off this week’s CMLL’s bookings. Polvora takes Casas place in the Reyes del Aire tournament tonight in Arena Puebla, with Euforia (Tuesday in Guadalajara), and Shocker (Friday) and Okumura (Sunday) on the other shows. This seems like a replay of the build up to the Anniversario show, where Niebla Roja went missing due to injury and CMLL talked around the situation while hoping/planning on him being back in time. I suspect Negro Casas will still get to the ring on 01/01. It’s possible they might have just decided that the buildup they did to this point was good enough and it was better to get Casas some rest before the big match. The Guerrero/Roja feud suffered for not having Roja around, but the dynamic is different here – Sam Adonis just needs to be someone the fans want to see beat – and it shouldn’t hurt CMLL as much this time around as long as Casas can make the match.
Today’s CMLL show has a match billed as the Rey del Aire VIP. It doesn’t come off as that way: Polvora, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Gran Guerrero, Felino and even Niebla Roja are not guys who would be thought of as kings of the air. It’s helpful to have some rudos who are good at catching dives in this, but it comes off as a normal cibernetico with a better than average name. The winner should come from the Mistico, Volador, Dragon Lee and Valiente group (and it seems like time for Dragon Lee to get a win.)
Soberano probably should be in that match instead of Niebla Roja. Instead, Soberano teams with Angel de Oro & Marco against the new evil trio of Sam Adonis, Johnny Idol and Okumura. Astral, Asturiano and Pegasso face Cancerbero, Raizel and Espiritu Maligno. Pegasso, Raziel and Cancerbero are all in the 12/25 cage match. Lestat & Tigre Rojo team up to face Signo & King Jaguar, and the show opens with Arkalis & Paris against Fuerza Chicana & Policeman.
The show will air on CMLL’s YouTube channel like normal. They’ll be on their next week too. The 12/25 and 01/01 shows are still on at schedule, but at an earlier time and presumably not going to be streamed.
Goya Kong says she fractured her fibia and tibia, so she’s not going to be back soon. She thanks AAA for all the support on social media. That’s notable compared to past stories when AAA’s been accused of not supporting injured luchadors.
Dalys beat La Vaqueritain a lightning match
(7:20, spinning side slam, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Virus beat Fuego, Stigma, Stuka Jr.
(12:22 [3:26, 5:43, 3:13], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(14:08 [5:20, 1:24, 7:24], 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Máscara Año 2000, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero beat Niebla Roja, Rush, Valiente
(9:43 [2:45, 1:39, 5:19], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
Both UG and Rush have their feet in the ropes on the finishing pin, but Tirantes never even looks in the direction of the pin as he counts.
Pequeño Nitro is a late sub for Pierrothito – so late, they actually just place Pierrothito’s music for him.
The main event wasn’t long, though it was freshened up a little by Rush actually being in the técnico side. He still wrestled like a rudo, but Rush getting annoyed at someone else’s shenanigans is always a good deal. Niebla Roja and Mascara 2000 engaging in a pose off was odd, and so was them playing it out like Mascara was some giant and Roja a tiny guy. Valiente and Negro Casas were technically in the match.
There’s probably a MOTYC coming at some point in the next 12 months out of NGD versus Soberano, Dragon Lee, and whoever they find as the sixth man. This wasn’t that match. It had nothing to do with Angel de Oro, who’s perfectly fine as a third man, but just the usual ceiling of a normal b-show match. Still, even with those limits, you can tell these guys were enjoying working with other and smoothly going from one thing to the next. They did about half of what they could do and it was still a pretty entertaining match. Dragon Lee scares me when he gets really excited to do something, but the tope con giro to the floor went fine.
The fourth match lacked a lot of the usual energy in these things, especially on the técnico side. Stigma’s tope was a nice way of breaking the usual formula, but it’s not a good sign when he’s clearly the one most into the match in his trio. Fuego messed up the thru the legs top for the first in forever, that’s about how that one went.
I guess you ought to give everyone tries at singles matches to see if something comes from them. Nothing much came from the women’s match, and the crowd wasn’t much outside one near fall. Dalys can’t help but make the matches look choreographed at times, taking the intensity down and making it clear she’s getting in position for moves.
The dives at the end of the minis match woke me up, from a show that was becoming really boring to watch. I’m not sure how much it really woke up because it looks I never finished this paragraph.
The opener had a lot of mat wrestling and none of the Vega high spots I wanted to see. Millenium’s 450 is an excuse to mark this as OK, but it’s not really that good.
ELITE (FRI) 12/08/2017 Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautilan, Estado de México [+LuchaTV]
1) Hijo del Alebrije b Halloween Jr., Climax Jr., Rambo Jr. [Copa Jr.] match full of accidents
2) Emperador Azteca & Fly Warrior b Dr. Karonte & El Rielero (Jalisco) and Ciclón Ramírez Jr. & Relámpago and Metaleón & Mr. Leo Relampago replaced Huracan Ramirez.
3) Heddi Karaoui & Imposible b Bandido & Xtreme Tiger Imposible replaced Cerrajero. Karaoui defeated Bandido to set up a title match.
4) Fuerza Guerrera & Fuerza Negra b Dragón Dorado & Octagón Fuerzas fouled Octagon & Dorado to set up the win. One of the ring posts broke during the match and the ring remained broken the rest of the show.
5) Garza Jr. DQ Sharly Rockstar Zorro, and whoever his mystery partner was, did not appear, so Garza and Sharly faced off instead of teaming. Garza faked a foul.
6) Cibernético & Hijo De Dos Caras b Blue Demon Jr. & Golden Magic and Mr. Electro & Trauma II Espiritu (a Radical!) helped Cibernetico & Dos win. Trauma & Blue Demon teased a singles match.
The entrance setup ELITE had for this show looked major league, they at least look like they’re making an effort to try different matches (Trauma/Demon) and, as best I can tell in the photos, they drew a decent amount of people for the venue. Show doesn’t sound like it went too well, though, with those last three matches having no chance with the broken ring (and maybe not having a great chance anyway.)
I’d say the second match is the only one you probably need to check out on TV, but there’s still no announcement of when that’ll be happening. They’ve said they’ll be on Azteca, but there’s no sign of a start date, and this is going anywhere without one of those. No next show has been announced either yet, and they had announced this one before the last one happened. They probably have four hours of TV taped between these two shows (assuming they want to even use the broken ring matches), so there’s no real need for more TV, but a steady amount of news or plans are the only way we can tell if a promotion is still alive these days.
AAA (SAT) 12/09/2017Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [@ZonaRudaTDN, The Gladiatores, AAA, MT, Record, Televisa]
1) Ángel Mortal Jr., Australian Suicide, Estrella Divina b Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzeloth Suicide pinned Vikingo
2) Dinastía, Faby Apache, Niño Hamburguesa b Goya Kong, Mamba, Mini Histeria Goya suffered a foot (ankle?) injury on a dive
3) Joe Lider, Parka Negra, Súper Fly b Aerostar, Drago, Raptor
4)Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, La Parka COR Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
Aerostar did a light tower dive onto the rudos to get them counted out
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Psycho Clown b Averno, Chessman, Texano Jr.
Marisela Pena said all the ticket revenue would go to rebuild the two schools. No exact amount was announced. They kept the building dark, but it looked far from full. Still probably helped raise some money.
They were pushing the sponsors hard, with a World of Warcraft on the apron, giant Epson prints of La Parka and Dave the Clown bookending the entrance, and GoPro cameras everywhere – it looked like they even had one on Hijo del Fantasma’s son head when he came to the ring to celebrate with his father after the main event.
Vampiro was right: it did seem like they were taping the show for TV because they had commentators. I should never doubt Vampiro! Who knows when/where it would air – maybe that’ll also be something with GoPro.
The lineup was different than had been originally announced, but the last posters they put out had the correct lineup. Wish that could happen a bit more often.
I have been making the reasonable assumption AAA is back in this same building in mid January for Guerra de Titanes. However, AAA didn’t announce that at the show, and they’re still listing the vague “Guerra de Titanes – Enero de 2018, CDMX” on TV. Maybe they just think it’s over a month away and too soon to promote, but it seems kind of strange since most who’d come out to this show would want to come back for the bigger show if they knew when it was happening.
It was really weird that DTU was posting live results from Cancun, when almost no DTU shows ever have results. (The Sunday results made it one match before vanishing, which is normal.) It made a little more sense when Reed & Midas won the tag team titles. They were already scheduled to face Jimmy & Principe Cometa in Arena Aficion, and that’s likely a title match now.
CMLL (SAT) 12/09/2017Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala & Sonic b Apocalipsis & Grako tecnicos took 2/3
2) Artillero, Inquisidor, Metálico b Flyer, Magia Blanca, Príncipe Diamante Magia Blanca replaced Sensei on Monday. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Guapito & Microman b Mije & Perico Zakarías Chamuel was referee for this one fall match.
4) Ephesto, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado b Drone, Pegasso, Rey Cometa Ephesto replaced Luciferno. Rudos took 1/3.
5) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente Rudos took 1/3.
6) Volador Jr. b Mephisto Volador took 2/3, with CMLL saying this was one of the best matches of 2017 and money was thrown in.
I can kinda imagine what Volador/Mephisto must’ve looked like, and it getting MOTYC talk, and not being as into as that, so I’m OK missing it. (I suspect it looks a lot like their matches in Mexico and Guadalajara. from earlier this year.)
CMLL (SUN) 12/10/2017Arena México [CMLL]
1) Astral & Magnus b Camorra & Yago Yago replaced Cholo on Tuesday.
2) Amapola, La Comandante, Tiffany b La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela
3) Puma, Tiger, Vangellys b Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther Rudos took 1/3. Idol didn’t get along with The Panthers and cost them the match. The Panthers attacked Idol after the match but Sam Adonis made the save and they took the Panther’s masks.
4) Felino, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Stuka Jr. Felino replaced Sam Adonis on Monday (who was there anyway, so I dunno.) Rudos took 1/3.
5) Ephesto, Mephisto, Negro Casas b Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico Mistico & Caristico did not get along, causing their team to lose.
It’s happening. Crowd was lower than usual with the final of the LigaMX season going on at the same time.
AroLucha (SUN) 12/10/2017 Nashville Fairgrounds Sports Arena, Nashville, Tennessee [JAMESESORRELLS]
1) Willie McClinton b Mr. 450 Willie McClinton is Willie Mack. Mack won clean with a 450 splash.
2) Máscarita Dorada b Demus Mascarita was sitting in the front row while the show was being introduced, but Demus attacked him to start their match. Dorada got the win.
3) Keyra & Lacey Lane b Taya & Vanilla Vargas Reby Hardy introduced herself as the (heel) authority figure over the women. She setup this match as the person who got the pinfall facing the person who didn’t take the pinfall on the other team “next week”. Keyra & Lane both have Varagas pinned, but Lane stops pinning before the three count. Keyra & Taya will face off for the women’s title next week.
4) James Storm b Trey Miguel Trey Miguel appeared unannounced, insulted the crowd and made an open challenge. James Storm appears as a surprise and beat him.
5) MVP DQ Sammy Guevara MVP was DQed for pulling the ref in front of a Guevara dropkick.
6) Hurricane Helms, Jack Edwards, Máximo b Daga, Garza Jr., La Máscara Jack Edwards is Jack Evans. Maximo pinned Daga
7) Penta 0M & Rey Mysterio Jr. b John Hennigan & Rush A video was shown of Rush & Johnny attacking earlier in the day. Rey started the show in the ring and was confronted by John & Rush again, with Penta making the save but refusing a handshake from Rey. Rey beat John.
Show got strongly favorable reviews on Twitter, with the main event seemingly getting over really well and people liking the action on the rest of the show. A guy like James Storm really appealed to the Nashville crowd – he started out there and was there forever as part of TNA – but the flip side is there’s not a whole lot of lucha in Arolucha. There were 22 wrestlers on the show, and only about half are people would generally associate with lucha libre. (Let’s count: Mascarita, Demus, Keyra, Maximo, Daga, Garza, Mascara, Penta, Rey and Rush for sure. You can debate if Taya or Jack count too at this point and I’ll count them as half a point each to make it simple.) There’s a trend of promotions using the word “lucha” to sound exotic cool, or to align them as part of a specific market that might be in more demand than the general wrestling audience. Their social media presence leading into this show has 100% felt that way, just people who didn’t know the first thing about lucha libre promoting a show because they see that as the hot thing at the moment, and they got Konnan as much to be their shield against negative accusations as anything else he might offer. I’m kind of a billion different thoughts on this show at once.
as a fan of lucha libre: James Storm vs Trey Miguel and MVP vs Sammy Guevara don’t sound much lucha libre
as a person who likes good wrestling: yes, please give me Trey Miguel & Sammy Guevera matches please (though these two matches in particular don’t sound like much)
as a dispassionate business observer: “Miguel” and “Vargas” and “Guevera” also sound Hispanic enough that some geek in a suit in a TV network boardroom isn’t going to blink twice
as a person with a slight sense of history: better this than booking Blue Demon Jr. vs Chavo Guerrero Jr. matches in a misguided attempt at authenticity.
It comes off more like reuniting old TNA friends, or The Crash friends, more than trying to do lucha libre itself. But, given the people in charge, that’s probably exactly what should be expected out of this whole thing. And I suppose none of this matters, because who knows who’ll be back if/when they actually run again. Juventud Guerrera seemed to say he’ll be part of Arolucha next year, which suggests they have more dates set up even though they say don’t have a TV deal. That’s optimistic. They did not announce another show in the building today, but they definitely left excited about the possibility.
The women’s match was streamed on Facebook. Looks like they’re setting up Taya/Keyra as the Taya/Ayako replay that never was. Also looks like they’re setting up Reby in the very played out authority figure role, which is the thing everyone is going to blame Russo for.
Vince Russo and the Harris Brothers were spotted during the show. I do not like those three people from what I know of them. They appear to be both prone to saying really dumb things, and show signs (some physical!) of being racists. I don’t really want to support anything they’re involved in, and I’m disappointed people I like are working with them, even while acknowledging a) there’s not many people to choose from and b) the only difference between these guys and (some) others are that these guys were dumb enough to publicize their dumb behavior and others are better at hiding it. Part of me would like them to come out and do the whole “I’m sorry, that was messed up, here’s how I learned from my mistakes” and part of me wouldn’t believe it even if they said it. So I don’t have a great ending here, other than this is a lucha libre thing, and I cover lucha libre things, so Arolucha will be a thing I’ll be covering, but I needed to put this paragraph here just to make it clear I was aware of all this (and maybe in case you weren’t.)
CMLL (SAT) 12/16/2017Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
2) Astral, Retro, Sangre Imperial vs Apocalipsis, Artillero, Camorra
3) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Sanely vs Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Blue Panther Jr. vs Hechicero [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis
If it streamed, I would watch the fourth match with popcorn, hoping Hechicero twisted him into a pretzel shape. And then Panther would probably win to set up a silly title match.
Sometimes I forget Camorra is still a thing. And there he is. He hasn’t appeared on a streaming show since April.
CMLL (SUN) 12/17/2017Arena México
1) Astral & Magnus vs Akuma & Grako
2) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Tiger, Warrior Steel
3) Fiero, Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr., Starman vs Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Nitro, Raziel, Templario [cibernetico]
4) Ángel de Oro, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Felino, Forastero, Negro Casas
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Terrible, Último Guerrero
I give myself no credit for correctly predicting the cibernetico. It was too easy.
Warrior Steel is back again. My theory, crazy as it may be, is they don’t book him much because they don’t want to put a guy that big in openers but he doesn’t have the tenure to work second matches.
CMLL (FRI) 12/08/2017Arena México [thecubsfan]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico b Shockercito & Stukita 12:36. Rudos took 1/3. Mercurio beat Shockercito to set up a title match next week.
2) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. 12:26. Rudos took 1/3, then Misterioso took Oro’s mask.
3) Euforia, Hechicero, Pólvora b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa 14:14. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Dragón Lee b Titán [lightning] 8:30. Dragon Lee won via (slightly messed up) Dragon Driver.
5) Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis b Marco Corleone, Negro Casas, Valiente [Relevos Increíbles] 6:34. Adonis was DQed in the first, won the second fall cleanly, and snuck in a foul on Casas in the third.
6) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero DCOR Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles] Mistico’s team (rudos) took first, Caristico’s team took second, both teams were counted in the third. UG & Caristico wanted one more fall, Terrible wanted a rematch next week. Terrible must have the power because that’s what they’ll do.
Better show than last week doesn’t really say anything. I enjoyed Dragon Lee/Titan and the main event, though both didn’t reach their ceiling.
It’s too late to really do more than – no sense previewing things with AAA & CMLL’s shows for the night are running. There’s two notable events coming up in the next few hours in the US, anyway.
Arolucha taped tomorrow night, and finally officially revealed Vince Russo is working for their company. That got the mostly negative reaction everyone involved knew it would, didn’t really need to be announced, and they did so anyway. They’re not a company that seems all that concerned with their social media public perception.
Heroes of Lucha Libre runs it’s second show in Ontario, California tonight. There are photos of the set up on Instagram, and it looks like the level of full arena set up you’d expect from a major league promotion. They drew surprisingly well the first time out. They do not appear to be doing the same the second time, but it’s early.
Both are longshots at getting TV deals. People are trying this because the perceived payoff is gigantic, but so are the odds of making it. It’s probably more likely these turn up on as digital releases on some streaming service than a TV deal (that’s what happened with most of Lucha Libre USA, that’s what happened with Jeff Jarrett’s GFW.) ELITE did get that TV deal, and it went nowhere with it. Meanwhile, we know The Crash are trying and AAA are probably trying again and CMLL’s probably always has an hour more TV to sell off if anyone’s interested: this is a far more crowded market than just Lucha Underground. I understand the jackpot people are seeing, but every one of these attempts is a pretty expensive lottery ticket.
Main event points towards a Caristico/Mistico match as soon as 12/22, but it’s not real until it’s on a lineup. Semimain continues Casas/Adonis. Fourth match might be pretty good.
It has been nearly 10 years since the last CMLL minis title defense on a Friday night in Arena Mexico. The last was Mascarita Dorada against Pequeno Damian 666 back in January of 2008. That match was third on the card. This is second. I wonder what the point is of a title, or even a division, if it’s being defended second on a card with not much special going on. That’s CMLL saying to the world that they don’t value those guys all that much.
Opener has four of the ten in the cage match on 12/25. We know 12/22 will have the Leyenda de Azul cibernetico, but there’s a decent chance of a cibernetico with everyone in the cage match on the Sunday 12/18 show. That’s the usual pattern.
Dragón Leebeat Titánin a lightning match
(8:30, Dragon Driver, good)
Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonisbeat Marco Corleone, Negro Casas, Valientein a relevos increíbles match
(6:34 [1:49, 1:33, 3:12], 2/3, ok)
Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrerowent to a draw against Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr.in a relevos increíbles match
(13:47 [2:22, 2:12, 9:13], Team Mistico won first + Team Carístico won second + double count out of the ring in the third, good)
Volador’s team wrestled as rudos, with Mistico going after Caristico’s mask. Carístico was the only person who really tried to get in to beat the 20 count but it was not to be. Último Guerrero and Mistico challenged the opposition to settle things with one more fall, but Terrible wanted a rematch next week.
Adonis was disqualified in the first fall for excessive violence, pinned Casas clean in the second, and snuck in a foul on the third. Adonis hyped the hair match on 1/1 after his win, then fought Casas more.
Mije was with Euforia (so Kraneo was probably booked for his spot at some point.)
Misterioso is hurt in the second fall when Pegasso’s 450 splash lands badly on one of his wrists.
Mercurio challenged Shockercito to a title match next week, which Shockercito accepted.
The main event could’ve had more technical moments given who was involved, and there definitely were times where wrestlers playing unusual roles for the night had trouble making it work. (Soberano didn’t get as much help here as he might from the Dinamitas.) Still, it was overall an interested and heated match. There was great chaos at the beginning, the silliness of Carístico & Soberano raising the roof for Último Guerrero and big action moments like the dive sequence. It remains weird that the guy CMLL’s picked as the rightful Mistico is the rudo here, even to Carístico calling him a pirated version of Mistico. Still, it’s well established that the crowd is going to pick the original over the replacement, so they might as well go with it. The fans got into that rivalry again, and CMLL’s taking their time going to that match. It could happen in two weeks, and it could be very big whenever it happens.
The semimain was really quick, but it actually accomplished something. That’s ahead of most. Crowd is into the Casas/Adonis stuff and the last run of the match was pretty good. They seem to be working better at this point. I barely even noticed Pierroth was in this match, always a victory.
Dragon Lee/Titan was a really nice change of pace from the undercard, with all the wrestlers involved really wanting to have a great match. It didn’t quite work – the opening exchange had a cross up, Titan slipped later trying an incredible escape, the finish didn’t look right – but there was enough that still went good that it easily interesting. The one thing both guys brought back from Japan over their many trips is a love of hard chop exchange and the occasional stomp to the head. They were brutal to each other at times while still keeping the idea of a técnico/tecnico matchup. This felt like just a small portion of what they could do in a longer match – we didn’t even get a Dragon Lee dive – but it was easily the best of the same style lightning matches that have cropped up in the last few weeks.
The tercera never really hit the heights it looked like it could on paper for any extended period. The ending dives were cool, Hechicero & Maya did some early good mat work, but Maya also was off later during the match. Cometa was unusually a non factor.
The second match was the typically alright match in this spot. Star Jr. & Virus had a really fast exchange, and the match rolled along nicely at times, but it didn’t come together to anything interesting. It was really weird having técnicos who are in the cage match and none of the rudos, and then have those técnico lose. Oro leans on the cutter spot too much.
There didn’t seem to be much juice to the Shockercito/Mercurio issue before the challenge. The opener was worked like an average minis match, and got over just as much as those have of late. The two man pedigree is a pretty heavy finish to be using in the first fall of the first match. On the other hand, the big offense by the rudo was one of the few notable things about the opener. Stukita seems to have been worn down by the CMLL machine a bit.
The episode is centered around an Australian Suicide/Lanzeloth cruiserweight title match. The layout of AAA show stayed the same (as it’s stayed for seemingly forever), but it seems like an attempt to tell a story from beginning to end in one episode, which definitely is different.
Prior to the opening tag match, Suicide interrupts Lanzeloth’s attempt at a generic promo to demand a title shot tonight if his team beats Lanzeloth’s team in the opener. Lanzeloth accepts, though adds on that Suicide will not get another shot if he loses this one.
Vampiro introduced a new sit down interview segment with Australian Suicide as new guest. (This felt like an attempt to recreate the Lucha Underground first season Vamprio sit down interviews.) They talk in English, subtitled in Spanish. Suicide talks about being rained in Australia but wanting to come to Mexico to be the best. He says AAA told him to put on the mask and how to act when he came to the group, but what we’re seeing now is the real him. He argues that he would be a better world champion than Lanzeloth, because Lanzeloth only wrestles in Mexico and Suicide’s wrestled around the world.
The title match is built around a knee injury. It’s nothing Suicide actively does, but instead caused when Lanzeloth flips to the floor. The injury comes and goes during the match. Lanzeloth catches Suicide with a cradle, against the momentum of the match that that moment.
There are other stories on the show. The intro to the show has a (unlabeled) clip from the July 15th episode of this show, where OGT stormed Poder del Norte’s locker room to demand a trios title shot after Santana & Brava lost their masks. Neither team has anything to do on this show, but Poder del Norte come out post match to protest the existence of the tecnicos/tecnicos match, and OGT come out to attack them. It turns into a 12 man brawl.
The women’s match had Shani take out both Hahastary & Ashley with a dive, leaving the other three women in the ring. As Faby went up for a moonsault onto Hiedra, Villano III Jr. ran in (right in front of the ref, no DQ) and dropkicked Big Mami out of the ring. Hiedra pulled Faby off the ropes into a powerbomb for the win. Even though the one and only time we saw Hiedra & Villano III Jr. together ended with them breaking up, it appears they’re still together.
Texano explains that the fans taunting him are as dumb as the dummies he’s found. He’s the rightful champion, and the better luchador than Hijo del Fantasma. Texano gets into an argument with a dummy he think is calling him a liar (with the voice helpfully supplied by Zuniga) and demands his trophy.
They push the next day’s Juarez taping during the show, including Wagner looking for revenge on Mundo for faking the DQ in their title match.
There is no story to Chicano and Ashley being on different sides than usual. Ashley is probably a numbers thing, Chicano might just be the guy they wanted to take Suicide’s finish.
The atomicos was exciting early, but increasingly sloppy as it went by, with more missed spots than you’d want for something that was this short. The Tigger Boy had a rough match, though I’m not sure if it’s him or he just gets stuck with the tricky stuff. The big move firework spot was done really fast, though ending with the reverse huracanrana that didn’t go well was a downer (and Angelikal just roll out without getting hit after it didn’t make a lot sense.) The shooting star press breakups looked amazing, but also looked like they were landing on people in awkward and pinfall fashion. Vikingo is the most eyecatching of the eight guys here. Angel Mortal catching Hijo del del Vikingo was impressive but takes a little too long to get to the powerbomb, and the camera losses them for part of it.
The men’s trios match is the superior of the two highspot tag matches. There’s nits to be picked, but it’s a lot more solid match while keeping the excitement level up. Even beyond the moves themselves, stuff like breaking up every cradle with another cradle was good. Argenis throwing people around as counter to all the flying moves gave the match something different. The biggest problem is this just wasn’t long enough, and using the time for an OGT/Poder del Norte promo was not the a less exciting use of time.
The women’s match was alright, with the usual flaws. Big Mami has poor timing at times, but I was impressed that at least one of the two headscissors Hahastary tried with her worked. It really is asking too much to expect those spots to go right for her, and the double boot spot with Faby later on was similarly comedic. It’s like AAA or Big Mami can’t bring themselves to admit that there’s some stuff the other women do that she does not do as well. Hiedra appears to be 90% cleavage at this point. Ashley shows no hidden ruda characteristics – she waves to the crowd after every move – but she and Hahastary did not feel out of place here. Hahastary seemed to work well with both Shani & Faby in limited time.
There was some good action here, though the story took away from the potential of the match. Lanzelot sold his knee fine and this audience is more willing to buy into that story, but it hurts the concept when he has to suddenly feel a lot better so he can pull off his offense or get in position for Suicide. They at least had Suicide keep hammering on the bad knee, but these guys just doing big spots for ten minutes would’ve been fine with me. The finish, getting beat by a weak cradle while being in control, makes Suicide look like a chump who shouldn’t be getting any more shots, but they could’ve given Lanzeloth a stronger win to establish him. He needs to come across as the best cruiserweight after not sticking up out really into this leadup, and he’s coming off like a fluke. Suicide looked like the better guy most of the match, with his tornillo coming off really good. The only way he’s not getting a shot is if he’s leaving AAA too, but I hope he gets more things to do in between his inevitable inclusion in a multiman match.
On this Friday’s show, CMLL does not have a tournament. I know, I’m surprised too. They still managed to make a strange card.
The main event has Caristico, Soberano and Ultimo Guerrero facing Mistico, Terrible and Volador. There are some possibly good matchups with rudos and tecnicos mixed together, but the draw is the first and second Mistico on opposite sides. CMLL heavily teased that dream feud back in the Leyenda de Plata, and it’s one fans have asked for ever since Caristico returned to the promotion two years ago. Their similar styles suggest they may not actually have a great match, but it’s one people would pay to see regardless. It’s really more a question of is CMLL is willing to actually do the singles match. I’ve been skeptical about CMLL doing it, mostly because it’s easy to be skeptical about CMLL doing big things, but that Leyenda de Azul match on 12/22 at least opens the door. A whole bunch of rudos in one match means there will likely be some tecnico/tecnico match as balance. Caristico/Mistico could be that match 0 but so could Caristico/Volador.
The semimain continues the Casas/Adonis feud towards their 01/01 hair match. Pierroth, Rush, Marco and Valiente fill out the match. The fourth match is the first time ever Dragon Lee/Titan match, which should be the best match of the night and possibly the best lightning match of the year. Like Caristico/Mistico, it’s two tecnicos, but they seem like they’re better at adapting to different setups.
Drone, Guerrero Maya and Rey Cometa take on Euforia, Hechicero and Povlora, in a match that seems like it should be higher than than third. Oro, Pegasso & Star face Misterioso, Sagrado & Virus. The opener has Shockercito & Stukita vs Pequeno Olimpico & Mercurio, which might be following up on the Shockercito/Mercurio feud from last week.
The bigger CMLL event is the thing happening prior to the show. The 85 Years of Lucha Libre book will be officially released in Arena Mexico at 7. The build up will include red carpet appearances by various retired luchadors, some of whom will be signing copies of the book for fans. The book will be on sale only in Arena Mexico for the month of December before a wider release in January. It’s unclear if it’ll be available internationally online, but I’d wait a month to find out and find out a little more about what’s in the book.
There was also a press conference for the XFL (MMA, not American football) show in Arena Mexico on Saturday.
Elite runs in Cuautilantoday, though (much like Lucha de Barrio), it seems like it slipped beyond notice on week 2. The main event is an odd three minute tag, w/Blue Demon & Golden Magic vs Mr. Electro & Trauma II vs Cibernetico, & Hijo de Dos Caras, an attempt to bring the Golden Magic/Dos Caras feud to the main stage.
The Tennessean has an interview with the owners of Arolucha, who reveal there’s a lot less going on with Arolucha than we might think. They have no TV/streaming deal, and it doesn’t sound like they’re even particularly close to one; there’s a mention they’ve talked to a couple people, but that’s it. This taping is happening Sunday mostly just so they can have some footage they own to take around to distributors.
My assumption is there’s no real reason to run additional until they get that TV deal so, even if the taping goes really well for the live audience, we probably won’t be hearing from Arolucha again for a while. TV takes time; as we’ve seen with The Crash, it can take forever. This would also explain why the only people who the promotion seems to be promoting in association with this show are the Harris Brothers – probably none of the actual wrestlers are under contract. They may use the same people if they get that TV deal, or they may have moved on to other things.
They’re pushing the idea it’s going to be family friendly, with no barbed wire and no swearing. This is where everyone points out that family friendly lucha libre often involves grandmothers swearing at rudos, but this is more a pitch towards networks and sponsors who want to associate themselves with that kind of identity and to differentiate themselves from Lucha Underground, which is the only other group they appear to recognize as competition. It also makes it an odd pick to have Konnan’s as lead writer (and possibly Vince Russo lurking in the background) for something aimed at being family friendly. He can do it, but it’s a different than what you’d expect they’d be aiming for when Konnan’s announced as part of the project.
Anyway, bottom line: Arolucha show will happen on Saturday, we’ll make too much of the attendance or the matches or whatever storylines they do or do not run, and there’s good chance none of it will matter because they won’t run again until they get a TV deal. The show itself should be good, I’d go if I was around, but it’s just a lottery ticket right now.
Vampiro seems under the impression tomorrow’s charity benefit show is a TV taping. It hasn’t really been announced as one as best I can tell, though Televisa Deportes is giving away tickets to it and I would expect parts of it to be filmed to promote the charity work. I suppose they could stream it online if they wanted, but there’s been no indication of that.
AAA posted Drago on Zona Rudo. There’s also a 22 minute video of Vampiro interviewing Bengala, but it turns out it’s also the match from TV included too. I don’t think I could watch a 22 minute Vampiro interview of Bengala in Spanish but I was fascinated with the idea it existed.
There must be some story about players in the Ascenso MX league (the second level of Mexican soccer), because there’s an article on Universal noting those aren’t the only athletes enduring bad conditions while ownership does a great deal better: AAA wrestlers taking 12 hour bus rides to shows gets a mentioned. AAA wrestlers have mentioned this to be the case, or worse situations where they take bus rides back from a far away spot show to Mexico City, and don’t have any time to do anything but get on another bus to get to another far away spot shot for the next day.
Daga is going to have a busy day, with this match and one scheduled versus Black Terry in Ecatepec a few hours later.
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentioned Angelico will not actually be on that those Lucha Underground themed shows in Australia, and Mil Muertes/Mesias is not expected to be healthy by then (January 19-21.)
El Sol de Tlaxcala has an interview with Drako of La Fortaleza. He says he started out as Drago until the former El Toreo Drago put a stop to that. Drako says the indie scene is in a good way, with preliminary guys 100 to 300 pesos for openers and semifinal guys getting 500 pesos.
Two weeks finished off in one, that’s good. Not watching things fast enough to keep up and there will probably be another break with no recap next week, that’s not good.
A long list. This is the second weekend of my trip, sot here’s a lot of stuff I put up on YouTube getting grades. I can’t remember what I thought of the market show and should’ve written down something earlier. They were fun live, I remember that much.
The Flamita/Mr. 450 vs Willie Mack/Fenix match isn’t below because I didn’t record it myself and my system isn’t great for things that didn’t air somewhere, but it was a Great match, better than anything actually on the list.
Astrolux, Atomic Star, Pegazus vs Black Dragón, Látigo, Tiago
Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-11-11
Arkángel Divino, Black Boy, Black Danger, Último Maldito vs Aramis, Dinamic Black, Fly Warrior, Toxin
Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-11-11
Magnus & Último Dragón vs Diamante & Sam Adonis
Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-11-12
Alex Segura Jr., Ancla, Centella, Fly Warrior vs Fly Star, Mini Black Shadow, Obscuro, Toxin
Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2017-11-12
Arkángel Divino, Black Boy (Baja California), Último Maldito vs Arez, Kronoz, Látigo