Mariachis versus Insoportables, Dos Leyendas, lots of links

IWRG (WED) 02/03/2016 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Alas de Acero & Aramis b Ángel De La Muerte I & Ángel De La Muerte II
2) Dragón Fly, Fireman, Omega b Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Vampiro Metálico
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy b Avisman, Hip Hop Man, Vórtize
4) Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible b Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Hijo del Alebrije, Pantera I
Los Mariachis Locos got another win, but the Insoportables ran out to attack them post match. That led into the main event.
5) Apolo Estrada, Canis Lupus, Eterno b Argos, Emperador Azteca, Pantera I
Canis Lupus is officially part of the Insoportables now. Pantera I was a last second sub for Danny Casas and worked two matches in a row. Rudos took 1/3, the last by Apolo & Eerno cheating Argos. Los Mariachis Locos attacked them post match.

A logical feud set up in IWRG! I wonder what will get changed before they actually have the big match

CMLL held a brief press event yesterday officially announcing Salvador Lutteroth and Lizmark are those honored at Homenaje a Dos Leyendas on March 18th. CMLL’s press release writes Lizmark was under consideration for the honor in other years, and there’s no other option this year. Lizmark was honored as part of a group of past stars in 2010, which would’ve been his last time in rena Mexico.

This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentions Lucha Underground officials met with WWE officials in December “regarding talent”, but it didn’t go anywhere. LU’s Eric Van Wagenen previously mentioned WWE’s Canyon Ceman was an old friend, so I wonder if that’s how it came about. Ceman and HHH were the WWE officials.

+MasLuchaTV has launched a new YouTube, Esto Es Lucha!  It’s a PTI/Around the Horn like discussion show about a different topics. Apolo Valdez and Dhani Ledesma joining Bernado and Jose Manual (and el Monje) to talk about the best show and luchador of 2015 among other topics.

Cara Lucha, who’s been dormant since their New Year’s Day show, announced their next show as February 21, with a tease of DTU participation.

The Queretaro Hurracarrana column says Elite may be running a show in Queretaro in March. As they noted in the column, that’s where the last iteration of Elite crashed and burned after a show fell apart minutes before it was supposed to happen.

Revolution Pro Wrestling announced Ricochet for their April 16 show, which probably rules that weekend out at as a Lucha Underground taping. (Though, the LU story was the wrestlers weren’t told the tape dates yet, so maybe not 100% confirmed.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and extensive picks for the best of 2015.

RobViper has highlights of July 31, 2015 CMLL.

The Tag Rope has an interview with Pentagon Jr. about Lucha Underground.

Proyecto Suplex writes about the lessons learned from maestro matches.

Criterio Hidalgo interviews Ram el Carnero, who debuted in IWRG last year and has been wrestling since 2011. He’s still only 17.

There’s a benefit show for Pato Soria with CMLL luchadors on 02/27 in Mexico City.

Mascara Dorada talks about his time in NJPW and his interest in going to WWE in a video interview with Plantilla Deportiva. He also did a (text) interview with MiedoTiempo. Dorada says his new move is called the Dorada Driver. NJPW seemed to be calling it the Dorada Screwdriver and I’m tempted to stick with it because it’s slightly more colorful.

Espanto Jr. wants to join a faction, hopes to win En Busca de un Idolo in 2016. These are not great ideas.

El Diario de Coahuila has a profile of Monterrey luchador Sergio Romo Jr.

Dia HEARTS, the faction Flamita was most recently aligned with in Dragon Gate, lost a losing unit must disband match today.

The NFL’s Houston Texans and Oakland Raiders are expected to play a game in Estadio Azteca this year. The date has not been announced. That’ll probably bring a good amount of US tourists, which probably means a good weekend for lucha.

03/04 AAA TV Lineup (Toluca)

03/04 Toluca

AAA TV (FRI) 03/04/2016 Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México
1) Goya Kong, Mascarita Sagrada, Niño Hamburguesa vs El Apache, Mini Psycho Clown, Taya
2) Aerostar & Drago vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Taurus
3) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro
4) Pentagón Jr. vs Hijo del Fantasma, Fénix, ? [AAA Rey de Reyes, quarterfinal]
5) El Mesías vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Texano Jr. [bull terrier]

Air Date: 03/12 – probably one week with the opener being left off.

The main event and the tercera feel like Dr. Wagner is suddenly going to be elevated to the main event title match and Psycho’s going back to challenging for the trios titles. Could just be a fakeout. It’d be disappointing to see Psycho relegated, but Wagner versus Texano versus Mesias is a better draw than Texano versus Mesias.

Full Rey de Reyes blocks:
1: Dr. Wagner Jr., Blue Demon Jr., Garza Jr., Taurus (02/06)
2: Villano IV, Electroshock, Chessman, Jack Evans (02/19)
3: La Parka, Psycho Clown, Averno, Zorro (02/19)
4: Pentagon Jr., Hijo del Fantasma, Fenix, ? (03/04)

It’s possible Pentagon and Fantasma will be coming into this match having met in the mixed title match on the previous taping. The mystery man silhouette appears to be Flamita/Fireball again. The Toluca crowd is always great, and that match is a match of the year candidate on paper. Pentagon seems unlikely to advance because he’s got the tag title match. Whoever else wins this block needs to win Rey de Reyes or come very close. AAA needs new top stars and their best candidates are pretty much all in one block.

The segunda also looks very good. I’m wondering if Anarquia might be another one of those storylines that have been dropped with the the creative change, since Hijo del Pirata Morgan has been pulled out of the faction at the times to feud with Electroshock. There seemed to be two different directions for him at once, and it seems an easy guess Konnan was behind the one that had him part of a trio that was having good matches.  Daga is actually pictured on the poster, but not in the match – maybe they were short one tecnico for this one?

Next taping has to be Rey de Reyes. (Which might mean we know the card before we know who’s advanced to the final of the tournament.) Given the SLP taping on the 23rd and when AAA will need TV, Rey de Reyes is March 13th if they run on a Sunday night as usual for a big show.

Edit: RobViper reminds me Drago, Fenix and Pentagon are already booked in Atlantis Atlanta on 03/13. Maybe it’s Friday the 11th? The Tampico promoters, the people who were originally going to have Guerra de Titanes, had that show scheduled on a Friday. They hinted they were getting Rey de Reyes as a makeup, and promoters usually schedule on a certain day of the week.

Lucha Underground 2×2: The Dark and The Mysterious

the matches

best sequence of Killshot’s night

Johnny Mundo defeated Killshot (Fin de Mundo, 4:23, OK)
the Mack defeated PJ Black (Stunner counter, 6:45, OK)
Prince Puma & Pentagon Jr. [O] defeated the Disciples of Death (Siniestro de la Muerte, Barrio Negro, Trece [X]) (Puma 630 senton with Pentagon stealing the pin, 7:36, good)

the developments

The main plot followed up on the events from last week. Puma & Pentagon Jr. were paired up in two versus three handicap match. In the locker room, Pentagon thanked Puma for assist in helping him break Mil Muertes arm last week, hoped Puma would do the same with the Disciples so their arms could be broken, and then promised to do the same to Puma. Puma didn’t like this idea, and they fought to a quick indecisive finish. Puma and Pentagon Jr. did win the handicap match despite Pentagon being a poor teammate. They did get it together, and they were aided by two of the Disciples taking each other on a misaimed dive spot. Puma and Pentagon’s fight resumed after Pentagon Jr. stole the pin. Pentagon tried to break Puma’s arm, but Puma got away. Both men made it clear they want Mil Muertes, but equally have problems with each other. For his part, Mil Muertes was back on his throne this week, but his broken arm was in a sling. (There was no hint he might be giving up the belt.)

Vampiro appeared to be conflicted and confused by the Pentagon Jr. thing. He didn’t like it when Striker would ask questions about their relationship (and if Vampiro orchestrated the attack on Muertes last week – Vamp deflected that), but he also didn’t like it when Striker would say negative things about Pentagon.

forget "big man"; the Mack is agile for a man of any size
forget “big man”; the Mack is agile for a man of any size

Everyone’s gunning for Muertes. The opening segment of the night saw Johnny Mundo pick up a win over Killshot (though it took an unseen foul) and issue his own title challenge. Mundo was interrupted by Cage, who added his name to the mix of challengers. Mundo and Cage had an argument over this – and over Cage beating Mundo back in Season 1. Mundo backed off for a fight, tried to sneak attack anyway, and was knocked away. Cage came off as the less detestable of the two.

The night featured a lot of Season 2 characters being introduced. PJ Black, possibly inhabited by the spirit of a wolf, fought off luchador bikers in a vignette but didn’t have the same success with the Mack. Kobra Moon got her own debut vignette and will be on next week’s show. To close out the show, the hooded man from the end of last season (and from the very first segment of the first show) was formally revealed as Dragon Azteca Jr. His new mentor explained he was trained by Dragon Azteca as well, was off the mask but went a different path, but will pass that training onto Azteca Jr. That new mentor is Rey Mysterio Jr., making his first on screen appearance.

(Dragon Azteca Jr. seemed to change people in season one, but now is clearly Tijuana luchador Rey Horuz, the former second Hijo de Rey Misterio. That adds some metatext to this plot.)

There was also a check in on Marty the Moth and Sexy Star. They’re in a new location than the end of Ultima Lucha, with Marty in normal people (normal preppy people)’s clothes, but still obsessed with moths and Sexy Star. Sexy is still locked up. Marty did say “they” would eventually bring Sexy back to the temple, though Marty’s sister remained unseen.

Pentagon was a little amped up
Pentagon was a little amped up


The second episode seems to be the tough one. The second episode of the first season was one of the roughest of that season, and this felt like a marked step down from the first episode. That first episode set a high bar, but this one still felt off by normal measures.

The Killshot/Mundo match appeared to be heavily edited. There were abrupt jumps between spots, and Striker was pushing this as a great Killshot performance when the match was two minuted old and he’d been on offense for maybe 45 seconds on it. It only went about four minutes total and the announcers were reacting to a much longer match. Mundo had a few matches against guys who haven’t been in the big title picture during season 1 (Angelico and Aerostar are the first I can think of) and those matches felt more substantive and just plain better than this one. Killshot hasn’t really connected at all yet. It seems like there’s more plans for him – those military vignettes should air at some point – but he’s missing the match to go along with it.

another day, another springboard SSP
another day, another springboard SSP

PJ Black’s vignette was great in it’s over the top Lucha Underground style. The rival bikers taking off their helmets to reveal lucha masks was so ridiculous it was right in the usual style. (Like wise, the Kobra Moon vignette was fun – laser sounds for punches – though her character was less clear.) The match itself against the Mack was missing something. I liked it more than opener easily, but it never clicked for me and the character came off weaker after it. Vampiro being unimpressed with the Darewolf nickname and not knowing much about him only kind of works if Vampiro is impressed by Black by the end of the match. The Mack won, and Vampiro wasn’t impressed, so I dunno what we were doing here. (“Darewolf” is not great, but it’s better than “Black To The Future” – especially when you’re facing The Mack.) Black wasn’t helped by Killshot using Black’s 450 as a near fall in the last match. I understand they want surprises on this show, but Black didn’t get to do his big move (which some else did), he didn’t get any other memorable spot (Mack got that), he was billed as the ‘other’ South African whose cool nickname from the vignette was silly in the match, and he also lost. This was not a successful segment.

(Flipside argument: El Rey aired a very nice Black History Month video right before the Mack’s match, including clips of the Mack in action, and I was suddenly dreading Lucha Underground having their only two black luchadors be used as enhancement talent.)

Main event felt very WWE, with the feuding top guys beating the midcard tag team champions even though they’re still feuding. The difference here is it was even 2 on 3, though they at least set up a sensible finish where the Disciples took each other out and it was suddenly the Puma/Pentagon team that had the numbers. Still – felt like there should’ve been some talk about two guys beating the trios champions, who could’ve been trios champions had they just dragged a third person out of the crowd to stand on the apron all match. The announcers avoided that topic at all. The commentary for that match sounded very post produced, as if they were retaping it to try to get something (Vamp/Pentagon?) more in the direction they wanted. There was a lot more talk about Vamp being in the mental hospital in that match than the entire first episode too.

sweet dive out of Siniestro de la Muerte anyway

I did like some stuff on this show! Context aside, the main event match was fun and easily the best match on the show. The intro vignettes were good. So was the Pentagon/Puma bit to start the show. And ending with the Rey reveal felt like a big moment.

When you look back at it – this was not a show with a superb match and this was a not a lot happened that you needed to see. They added some new pieces to the game, but they didn’t advance most of the ones you were interested in last week. Cage/Mundo was set up for down the line. Mysterio debuted, but in a 20 second bit which is only important if you missed the hype for Mysterio debuting (and the plot there was covered better in the comic book last week.) Puma/Pentagon/Muertes is going on, but you knew that last week. The Fenix/Cuerno story and the Ivelisse/Havoc/Angelico stories took a week off. If you took a week off too, you’ll probably be OK. It’ll probably be better next week.

I always like this escape into a headscissors

LU episode 2, boring CMLL show, Konnan talks about AAA changes, Jarochita & Argos

CMLL (TUE) 02/02/2016 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Cholo & Espanto Jr. b Metatrón & Sensei MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:54. Rudos took 2/3.
2) El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo b Hombre Bala Jr., Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:05. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Tritón MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:17. Cancerberos took 1/3.
4) Hechicero b Delta [lightning] MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:45 via conjuro.
5) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Super Porky b Felino, Ripper, Tiger MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:54. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Thunder DQ Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Niebla Roja MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 2 DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:44. Revolucionarios took 1/2, then last when Thunder tossed his mask to Niebla for the DQ.

Another pointless Tuesday show. I liked Hechicero/Delta but I always like Delta Hechicero. Cuatrero & Sanson are nice additions because they’re better than the Arkangel/Nitro class of guys who’d normally be in that match. Their match wasn’t Good, but there’s a promise of them being there in a few months. Really, that’s the same thing with Fujin and Raijin, who will give CMLL some different and likely better match ups than the status quo. It’d be much better if CMLL actually booked interesting matches or put people in positions to have them, but slight turnover of the roster can help where nothing else is happening (and CMLL’s best ‘booking’ trend of the last few years has been adding new talent to the mix.)

Fujin and Raijin are supposed to be on today’s CMLL Informa at 5pm CT. It’s their only streaming appearance in the near future: they’re working only Tuesday Guadalajara shows and Sunday Elite shows so far, and almost every other show is steamed. The other guests are Lluvia, Shocker, Okumura, Kamaitachi, and Mascara Dorada.

Lucha Underground has (kind of) announced three matches for tonight’s episode, ”

  • Johnny Mundo versus Killshot
  • PJ Black (debut) versus The Mack
  • Pentagon Jr. in action

That’s the complete list of matches. Pentagon Jr.’s match will be set up during the show. PJ Black is WWE’s Justin Gabriel, originally from South Africa. There may be one more debut behind the scenes on this show; one of these characters has a new associate but they’re not seen in front of the crowd for a few more weeks.

On this week’s MLW Radio, Konnan says he’s out as booker in AAA. He’s still with the company as a road agent, and he came up with finishes for Guerra de Titanes, but the matches and storylines currently on are the work of Dorian and Joaquin Roldan. This is a fluid situation that’s changed a few times: he’s made it clear prior that the TripleMania card and the original December Guerra de Titanes card were not his, but the Heroes Inmortales show in between did include his storylines. (It did come off like a permanent change this time.) Konnan’s not a big fan of what was done instead, but he also sounds like a man who was tired of the stress of the position. Here’s a rant, started off by Konnan noting people ask him for jobs in creative all the time and Konnan explaining creative is not just putting names together in matches:

When you actually get in that position – first of all, why have so many people failed in that position, have you ever asked yourself that question? I mean, why have so people fai-because there’s so many inherent politics and filters and bullshit and shit beyond your control, plus the fact you got to keep – how many people are on your roster, you’ve got to keep twenty, thirty, forty, fifty people happy – everyone’s got to be happy.

You’ve got guys that don’t like each other, you guys that stand you up for money, you got guys that want extra money to do a job, you got guys that who want to hook up their friends, you got your boss who doesn’t like a certain guy or certain idea, you got so many variables that come in to making shit work. Then, if you use certain guys, it’s because you like them. And if you don’t use certain guys, it’s because you hate them.

According to Konnan, the Fenix/Mesias storyline and also the Pentagon/Jack one (which was supposed to lead to mask versus hair) are both dead. The Australian Suicide/Daga one is expected to continue. Konnan said there was a lot on Guerra de Titanes that didn’t make sense to him. He thinks it was silly to have Angelico & Jack vacate the tag titles when Angelico’s going to be back in a month and while they’ve had many other championships go undefended for months. He thought the trios title match was strange, with two teams who hadn’t teamed ever and one team that had teamed for three months, instead of any sort of normal team. He didn’t understand why they were going with Mesias and Texano as a feud when both have been rudos are in the same faction. (Averno & Chessman are confirmed to be out of La Sociedad though.) Konnan wasn’t harsh or loud in his criticism, but just didn’t think it made sense.

With all that said, Konnan felt Guerra de Titanes did well live, and credits it to the product being hot because he doesn’t think the specific lineup was all that good.

Konnan says Rey isn’t returning to AAA until some money issues are worked out, and remains open to a part time schedule with WWE but has no interest in a full time return similar to Alberto del Rio. Konnan uses Rey’s experience with the Five Star Wrestling tour in the UK as an example of promoters being dumb today, pointing out a lot of stuff mentioned in the Observer that they did that made Rey look bad.

Konnan was more harsh towards two people who left AAA:

Konnna says La Jarochita told the press Taya was getting paid more than other girls and it’s because she’s Konnan’s friend. Konnan says he doesn’t decide the pay at all in AAA. Jarochita complained when she started about not being used right, but Konnan says she came in super out of shape (“you came in fat”) and wore outfits that exposed it. “Now that you’re in CMLL, see if you can get by on your wrestling talents, and not trying to sleep around like you did in AAA with who you thought had power.”

Argos said Konnan stopped young guys from getting over. Konnan mentions Dinstia, Fenix, Daga, Taya off the top of his head as young people he didn’t stop. Konnan tells the classic Argos story: he and Semental had a tryout before an AAA show, and Konnan was very impressed with both. Except, once Argos was a tecnico on his own away from Argos, he was falling down all the times in matches and it turned out Semental had just been awesome in that match. (Konnan rates Semental as one of the top 5 bases in AAA.) Other wrestlers told Konnan that Argos was hard to deal with, and didn’t want to work with him because he was too focused on getting his own stuff in. (Those people would tell Konnan, not Argos, who remained oblivious.) Argos started to gain weight, so Konnan tried turning him rudo to see if that would work any better, and it did not. Argos just isn’t any good, so he didn’t get pushed – Konnan points out Elite isn’t even putting him that high and thinks he probably wouldn’t be used at all if not a favor for Myzteziz.

In a fun fact, Konnan says Perro Aguayo Sr. & Jr. used to call Texano and Silver King “big cassette and little cassette”, because they used to watch all the VHSs they could get from Japan to get ideas. It’s quite noticeable there’s been no talk about Lucha Underground TV on these podcasts; there’s even open to talk about it when Melina’s time there comes up, and both hosts kind of step around it. Maybe they’re just not interested in it this season.

In an interview from Guerra de Titanes with +LuchaTV, Sexy Star talks about being disappointed with missing the show and isn’t sure how soon she’ll be back. She does say it might be quick, and it apparently was so – she did wrestle on last weekend’s Lucha Underground tapings.

There’s Elite show in Juarez on 03/27 – or maybe 03/20, depending if you’re looking at Aereo’s comment or the poster. That’s a Sunday, so it joins the 02/21 Sunday in Monterrey where Elite is listed some place besides Arena Mexico.

03/12 RIOT card so far
Unmexicans vs Compadres Extremos
Alberto Dos Rios vs Psycko Kid
Tony Rodriguez vs Rico Rodriguez
Kratoz vs Kamikaze (ex-Viento Divino) – new

It looks like one of the Incontenibles took Arana Negra III’s mask in Arena Lopez Mateos. This was Arana Negra III’s debut match.

AAA’s uploaded their version of Guerra de Titanes part 1.

Segunda Caida reviews Virus vs Rocky Romero

Atomic Star talks about winning El Protector for the third time.

The boxing, lucha and MMA regulations are being updated in Ensenada.

Skayde Jr. talks about the show he’s promoting outside of Chicago with Atlantis & Octagon on Sunday, straight up against the Super Bowl. Good luck.


IWRG (SUN) 02/07/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón & Kaling Black vs Adrenalina & Vampiro Metálico
2) Astro, Emperador Azteca, Súper Astro Jr. vs Balak, Hip Hop Man, Novasonic
3) Diva Salvaje, Dr. Cerebro, Pantera I vs Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
5) Danny Casas, Dragón Fly, Hijo De Dos Caras, Veneno vs Atomic Star, Heddi Karaoui, Herodes Jr., Trauma I
6) Hijo del Pantera & Pantera © vs Negro Navarro & Trauma II [IWRG IC TAG]

Navarros won in straight falls this past weekend to set up that match. Semimain has the finalists from El Protector to continue the Herodes/Dos feud. Some new names listed in the early matches (and Kaling Black is making his once a year appearance?)

CMLL Elite (SUN) 02/07/2016 Arena México
1) Centvrión & Fly Warrior vs Artillero & Cholo
2) La Jarochita & Rossy Moreno vs Amapola & Dalys
3) Dinamic Black, Fuego, Metaleón vs Fujin, Heddi Karaoui, Raijin
4) Golden Magic & Tritón vs Puma & Tiger
5) Juventud Guerrera, Super Crazy, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Máscara Dorada vs Cibernético, La Máscara, Mephisto

You can tell Elite isn’t booked by CMLL’s normal crew because they actually use the Ingobernables as rudos. There are some promising matches.

Fujin & Raijin making their debut against two indie guys and teaming with the French MMA guy is so CMLL on the non-TV show.

The last match I have with Rossy Moreno in Arena Mexico was Febuary 23, 1990. There’s plenty of missing gaps in the early 90s, but we’re talking something like 25 years between matches in this arena. She’s another person who was working on the Todo x el Todo shows previously.

CMLL (TUE) 02/09/2016 Arena México
1) Flyer & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Artillero
2) La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Reyna Isis
3) Súper Halcón Jr. vs Disturbio [lightning]
4) Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., Stigma vs El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo
5) Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
6) Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

There’s no match that I think it’ll be better than OK on this show. That’s depressing.

CMLL (TUE) 02/09/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mágico & Magnum vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
3) Fuego, Titán, Tritón vs Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Dragón Lee vs Cavernario, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy vs Euforia, Kráneo, Último Guerrero

Meanwhile, Fujin & Raijin stay off the streaming shows for the moment. Their match look better than every match on this Arena Mexico, and this is the better card easily.

CMLL Arena Mexico: 2016-02-02

Cholo Driver
Cholo Driver

Recapped: 02/02/2016

What happened: Thunder cheated to beat Mr. Niebla in the main event trios. And that’s it – unless they’re bringing that back another week, there’s no new program set up.

What was good: Hechicero/Delta lightning match was the best match on the show. The rest was forgettable.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel.


Volador/Casas in Puebla, Joker wins in Guadalajara, Lucha World Cup

CMLL (SUN) 01/31/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Diplomático & Guerrero de la Muerte b Johnny Dinamo & Micro
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Javier Cruz Jr. & Linterna COR Demonio Rojo & Quca
Lintera replaced Capitan Cobra, Quka replaced Mr. Apolo. Quka was eliminated last, couldn’t return after a Lintera tope.
3) Cancerbero & Raziel b Esfinge & Gallo
Rudos demanded a tag title match.
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Magnum, Neutrón b Kempo Dragón, Príncipe Kisho, Ripper
Tecnicos took 2/3, Neutron beating Ripper after they had feuded.
5) Joker b Omar Brunetti [OCCIDENTE MIDDLE, final]
Joker took 2/3, the last with a piledriver variant, to win the vacant title.

Joker seems like a good choice for champion here – and if he doesn’t go to Mexico City, maybe he’ll defend the championship at some point.

CMLL (MON) 02/01/2016 Arena Puebla [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Asturiano & Black Tiger b Ares & Espíritu Maligno LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:25. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr. b Magnus & Metatrón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:53. Batallon de la Muerte took 1/3.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Delta, Stigma b Boby Z, Pierroth, Sagrado LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:17. Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Ángel de Oro, Titán, Tritón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:27. Rudos took 1/3, the last when Mephisto stole Angel de Oro’s mask and pinned him.
5) Rush b Thunder LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6:45. Rush took 1/3, the last when Thunder fouled Rush.
6) Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero b Dragón Lee, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DEL MUNDO EN VIVO 1º DE FEBRERO DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:41. Rudos took 1/3. Atlantis & La Mascara were replaced by Dragon Lee & Mascara Dorada late Monday (hours after the lineup went up.) Negro Casas sort of powerbombed Volador and put his feet on the ropes for the win. Volador demanded a one fall match with Negro Casas – which happened for a bit, including the crowd counting three after Volador nailed Casas with the running kick to the head. Volador dumped Casas to the outside to end the fight.

The Casas/Volador bit is carry over from Friday. Dorada and Dragon Lee looked good as long as the match lasted, but the ending came off a bit flat. The postmatch seemed like an attempt to salvage the bit.

Rush/Thunder felt like CMLL booked the match, then immediately regretted it. Rush did not mail it in, but this was not a high priority match.

Mephisto/Angel de Oro felt like the start of a title feud. Oro was making title motions before the match – the Hijos del Infierno are still Mexican trios champions, but it felt more like Oro might defend his.

Enuhito says he’s been told the plans for the Lucha World Cup are an expanded two day event in June. It’ll include a Women’s version of the tournament and the number of organizations participating will increase. Last year’s competition got great press for AAA, and it would make sense to do it again. The logistics of getting enough promotions involved is always going to be the challenge.

CMLL Arena Mexico has Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, and Niebla Roja versus Dragon Rojo Jr., Polvora and Thunder as the main event. That sounds terrible! The show is scheduled to stream Tuesday night at 7:30pm on CMLL’s website (thru YouTube), but it’s not a good card at all and the main event is pretty bad. Maybe the semimain will be good if people keep replacing Super Porky, since the rest of the match is Fuego, Guerrero Maya, Felino, Ripper and Tiger. The lightning match is a Hechicero singles against Delta. Those don’t look bad, but the Tuesday shows seemed to have a lesser effort level than other days of the week.

Guadalajara has a more interesting card. Mascara Dorada returns to his home arena to team with Maximo & Volador against Ephesto, Euforia and Mephisto. Rush takes on Kraneo in what is sure to be an entertaining battle. Raijin and Fujin debut, teaming with Okumura vs Esfinge, Rey Cometa and Stuka. That’s a spot higher in the card than the previous debuts been, but it might simply be because the segunda is a minis match on this show.

recent NJPW trainee debuts:
2014-01-31 Arena Mexico (2nd): Kamaitachi, Sangre Azteca, Okumura defeated Fuego, Super Halcon Jr., Triton
2012-02-05 Arena Coliseo (3rd): Misterioso, Namajague, Okumura vs Black Warrior, Sagrado, Sangre Azteca

Rey Mysterio talks about Lucha Underground, and the time Fenix didn’t meet him.

Llaves y Candados announced Rush vs Cibernetico vs Konnan Big is actually happening on 02/28. They teased this match last week.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and this week’s Poster-Mania.

RobViper has highlights of 07/28/15 CMLL.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Black Terry vs Solar, the IWRG opener, and drunk woman at the IWRG show.

Zeuxis talks about her title defenses and her match on the 02/20 show at Gimnasio Hercules.

Psycho Clown wants a match with Dr. Wagner after betraying him in the tag match. They certainly seem to build a mask match here.

This week’s Box Y Lucha includes a Mr. Niebla & Zacarias poster.


No Coliseo show on Saturday. There’s a boxing show instead.

CMLL (MON) 02/08/2016 Arena Puebla
1) París & Zaeta Roja vs Guerrero Espacial & Saurón
2) Arkalis & Meyer vs Akuma & Espanto Jr.
3) Black Tiger, Pegasso, Starman vs Fuerza Chicana, Metálico, Policeman
4) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Tritón vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas [lightning]
6) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero

Volador/Casas having a lightning match that lasts eight minutes is probably better than a three fall match last eight minutes.

CMLL Puebla: 2016-02-01

Dorada is back
Dorada is back

Recapped: 02/01/2016

What happened: Negro Casas cheated to defeat Volador. Volador wants a singles match still. The big Thunder/Rush battle ended in under seven minutes with Thunder fouling Rush. Mephisto cheated to beat Angel de Oro, which might be a start of a program there.

Oh, and Mascara Dorada is back.

What was good: I liked the opener and the main event, and there were good moments in other matches. There’s no stellar match, but this was one of the better Puebla shows in a while.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel. Some matches will air on 52MX on 02/13


Atomic Star & Herodes Jr. win IWRG’s El Protector, Ultimo Dragon show, Puebla

Los Mariachis Locos

Ultimo Dragon Gym (SUN) 01/31/2016 Domo del Deportivo Plan Sexenal, Distrito Federal [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), The Gladiatores]
1) Ikar & Sonic b Daisuke Hanaoka & Fire Man
2) Princesa Sugheit b Reyna Isis
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Patán, Skándalo b El Padrino, Fiero, Súper Ciudadano
Dragon Rojo switched places with Canelo Casas.
4) Solar I DRAW Black Terry
Solar replaced Blue Panther. Double pin finish.
5) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Último Dragón bArkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Terrible[Copa Nipro]
Canelo Casas switched places with Dragon Rojo. Angel de Oro replaced Valiente.

Solar/Terry is probably fine, but Panther/Terry was the most interesting match on this card.

IWRG (SUN) 01/31/2016 Arena Naucalpan [@naoki909, +LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)]
1) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Rey Paloma b Guerrero 2000, Power Bull, Vórtize
Rey Paloma is an indy wrestler from Japan, has been in BJW among other plaecs.
2) Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible b Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro © [EdM Trios]
Title change! Diablo’s team are the Maricahis Locos IWRG had been teasing, and they won the titles by taking falls 2/3. Champions fall on their 3rd defense. Best match of the night.
3) Negro Navarro & Trauma II b Hijo del Pantera & Pantera
Navarros won in straight falls.
4) Emperador Azteca & Hip Hop Man b Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Dragón Fly, Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon [El Protector, seeding battle royal]
a battle royal to determine brackets for IWRG’s annual rookie/veteran tournament.
5) Adrenalina & X-Fly b Kanon & Toscano [El Protector, quarterfinal]
6) Atomic Star & Herodes Jr. DQ Hijo de Mascara Sagrada & Máscara Sagrada [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Atomic Star faked a foul to draw the win.
7) Dragón Fly & Hijo De Dos Caras b Hijo del Alebrije & Veneno [El Protector, quarterfinal]
8) Hip Hop Man & Trauma I b Danny Casas & Emperador Azteca [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Trauma I fouled Danny while Hip Hop Man beat Azteca
9) Atomic Star & Herodes Jr. b Adrenalina & X-Fly [El Protector, semifinal]
X-Fly bled after a Herodes chair shot.
10) Dragón Fly & Hijo De Dos Caras b Hip Hop Man & Trauma I [El Protector, semifinal]
11) Atomic Star & Herodes Jr. b Dragón Fly & Hijo De Dos Caras [El Protector, final]
Herodes again asked for a title match with Dos, and Dos said he’d have to win clean one on one first.

Past winners
2010: Dr. Cerbero & Hijo del Signo
2011: Scorpio Jr. & Comando Negro
2012: X-Fly & Imposible
2013: X-Fly & Carta Brava Jr.
2014: Super Nova & Electro Boy
2015: Negro Navarro & Metaleon
2016: Herodes Jr. & Atomic Star

Atomic Star lost in the finals with Eterno in 2014, lost in the first round with Eterno again in 2015. I guess he got a better partner! Hijo del Diablo seems to have come out with the more successful trio in the Gringos VIP split.

Lucha Underground sent out a press release confirming the Season 3 renewal. The interesting bit is they say the Season 3 won’t start until early January 2017. That’s a much longer break than I would’ve assumed – around six months after Season 2 ends. It’s likely (whenever they start), it’ll be another season where the season will be mostly or all taped before it airs. It also definitely shifts the plan away from doing PPVs and other TV-like live events; it’s not going to work to do a PPV if everything on both sides of it has been taped for months.

This would also mean anyone under contract for three seasons – Pro Wrestling Sheet said this is the case with Prince Puma back in the fall – probably wouldn’t be a free agent until summer of 2017 if the contract doesn’t expire until the episodes all air. (There was some founded speculation this would happen much sooner over the weekend.) On the other hand, if LU does start taping – and finish taping – season 3 in 2016, that’d leave Ricochet to spend a lot of 2017 in NJPW if he’d like.

Some of those who went to Ultima Lucha 2 got a physical copy of the first Lucha Underground magazine. The back cover has a teaser for the next issue (out in a week and a half or so), which seems to be a Mil Muertes, Catrina, Disciples focus.

Today’s Puebla show has Rush versus Thunder in a real wrestling match. I endorse rioting if Rush loses in straight falls like Euforia did on Friday. Main event is Mascara Dorada’s first match back with CMLL, teaming with Dragon Lee & Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero and Ultimo Guerrero. That may continue the focus on the Casas/Volador issue from Friday, but Puma and Tiger aren’t scheduled to be in Puebla today. Maybe Casas can recruit Rey Apocalispis & Toro Bill, who wrestle a segunda against Magnus & Metatron. Show starts at 9pm as usual.

Promo from Okumura, Kamaitachi and the new kids. They’re clearly not going to be masked.

LuchaRama announced their next show for 02/27.

Segunda Caida reviews Negro Casas vs Tarzan Boy


CMLL (SUN) 02/07/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Linterna vs Black Sugar & Quca
2) Explosivo & Star Black vs Mr. Apolo & Mr. Brisa
3) Cosmos, Frezzer, Magnum vs Espectrum, Gran Kenut, Thunder Boy
4) Mágico, Rey Cometa, Valiente vs Furia Roja, Joker, Maléfico
5) Esfinge & Gallo © vs Cancerbero & Raziel [OCCIDENTE TAG]
2nd defense

Should be a successful defense for the locals. Tercera is Espectrum’s first match in many months.

Lucha Underground Season 3 official, CMLL weekend results

photo by CMLL

CMLL (SAT) 01/30/2016 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Leono b Inquisidor
Leono won with a motocicleta
2) Espanto Jr. b Sensei
Sensei was stretchered out.
3) Hijo del Signo b Robin
Signo used a Cerrajera variant to win.
4) Raziel b Soberano Jr.
Raziel won with a nudo.
5) Dalys & Zeuxis b La Vaquerita & Skadi
Dalys & Zeuxis won with a code red and a La Roca.
6) Boby Z, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Máximo Sexy, The Panther, Titán
The Panther replaced Super Porky, who’s still not back. Rudos powerbombed all the tecnicos for the win.
7) Valiente b Niebla Roja
Valiente used the ropes to defeat Niebla Roja.

This has nothing to do with Valiente cheating to win, but I wonder if the return of Mascara Dorada will lead to another reconfiguration of the top tecnico trio. It’s a shame CMLL only feels like doing one of tecnico unit of any merit at a time, because there’s a bunch of guys who could use a group, but it like a waste not to have Dorada in something big.

CMLL ELITE (SUN) 01/31/2016 Arena México [+LuchaTV, KronoSport]
1) Astral & Último Dragoncito b Pierrothito & Principe Diamante
Tecnicos took 1/3. Principe Diamante is a rudo this week for whatever reason.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte & Heddi Karaoui b Bengala & Robin
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Argos, Karonte Jr., Magnus b Fuego, Pegasso, Tritón
Karontes worked as rudos, took falls 2/3.
4) Cavernario & Negro Casas DQ Juventud Guerrera & Super Crazy
Peste Negra took 1/3. Crazy got beat, came back in to attack Negro Casas. Usual hair match challenged followed
5) Euforia & Último Guerrero b Mephisto & Sharlie Rockstar
Guerreros took 1/3.
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Titán DQ Cibernético, La Máscara, Rush
Titan replaced Mistico. Ingobernables were DQed for excessive violence, then attacked referee Edgar.

Everyone wants a piece of Negro Casas. The good thing for him is the next apuesta challenge that goes anywhere on an Elite show will be the first one.

I’m starting to think that, unless there’s actual hard plans to do Rush/Cibernetico, they probably should just be allies. The three way feud has too many matches which don’t tell make sense (like this one.)

Argos had negative things about Konnan, claiming he favors his group of guys. There’s surely no favoritism in Elite, not at all!

Pro Wrestling Sheet reported Lucha Underground Season 3 was announced as greenlit at a talent meeting Sunday morning. The idea of a third season being secure had been floating around for a few months – Dr. Lucha had been saying so consistently, and Eric Van Wagenen had all but said it was already done way back in October – but official is better than assumed. No return date seemed to be announced. Dave Meltzer mentioned on his podcast and on Twitter that he had heard it’d be July (which would be around the end of Season airing.) People around the show had be talking a return for S3 as soon as April. There’s also no

The Pro Wrestling Sheet report also mentioned the talent was also told the show will be sold on iTunes “in a few months.” Hope that’s before the end of Season 2.

There was a problem with the Temple apparently being overbooked tonight for Ultima Lucha 2. People who understood they had seats for the show were bumped at the last second, seemingly for celebrity VIPs. It was also raining and those who are going to the shows are getting there early to make sure they’re on the list – it’s a tough long day to go home empty handed, especially on Ultima Lucha 2 day. The tickets are free, but the time isn’t. The situation could’ve been handled much better.

The impression is LU will be coming back to the Temple for Season 3. Their problem is the demand is many times the amount of seats they have. It looked packed inside the temple from the photos I saw Saturday and I suspect it’s the same thing Sunday; there’s not much they can do to get more people without moving or some sort of massive reconfigure.

The build to Ultima Lucha 2 had posters for the matches part of the event, so there are photos floating around with the lineup. You may want to be careful at looking things.

There was one other disappointment: TLN did start airing Lucha Underground tonight, but started with Season 1. It makes a certain sense, but people had been led to believe they’d be getting the same episodes as in the US on a few day delay (and even people with Lucha Underground had thought that was the plan.) Maybe it’s something that’ll be fixed next week, but probably you’ll have to go thru the first set before seeing the second.

Ultimo Guerrero defeated Pagano in Arena Neza Saturday night. The match was supposed to be a three way with Rush. On Facebook, Rush explained he did come to the arena, but there was an issue with the promoter and so he did not go to the ring.

The HUMO show today was supposed to have a Zeuxis, Dalys and Lluvia vs Keira, Lady Maravilla, and Mystique. Keira was said to be pulling out after making her AAA appearance last week. She was replaced by – uh, herself. CMLL team beat the sort of AAA team. The undercard was also very changed; when you’re listing Flamita and Super Crazy and end up with Pantera and Villano III, some chaos is happening.

Post match Friday, Volador Jr. claimed he’d have a big surprise from his family to counter the Casas family. Super Parka would not be a big surprise. LA Park would be a big surprise, so big I can’t imagine it actually happening. Maybe it’s Bruni?

Also, Euforia is not in a good mood after his match. No one was!

Tornado Negro II had his retirement match against Tijuana. He’d been feuding with Venum Black, so no surprise they ended up losing their relevos suicidas match and having a final hair match. During that match, Venum Black set up Tornado Negro in a chair for a tope. Negro moved, Black hit the chair and the floor. (This was a really dumb idea.) The match ended there, Tornado Negro coming back in to win by twenty count, but the story was Venom Black going into convulsions. Venom Black is standing a minute or so later (and more quickly recovered than you’d expect for a major head injury.) There’s video here of the whole thing.

Chairo 3 (03/06, Arena Naucalpan, Chairo Kingdom) card so far
Mascara Dorada vs Extreme Tiger, falls count anywhere
Super Muneco vs Maximo
Atlantis vs Caifan

ChilangaMask 03/20 3rd Anniversary card so far
los Caifanes vs Los Traumas
Tigre Universitario vs Jeque
Makabre, Shiryu Dragon vs Wotan, Impulso
Raymond Rowe will appear
El Sagrado & Sangre Fri & Dorado Jr. vs Aero Boy & Fulgor I & Fulgor II – new

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

FantasticaMania makes the cover of this week’s Box Y Lucha.


CMLL (TUE) 02/02/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Akuma & Bengala vs Demonio Rojo & Mr. Trueno
2) Cosmos, Shockercito, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pierrothito, Relampago
3) Esfinge, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Fujin, Okumura, Raijin
4) Rush vs Kráneo
5) Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Euforia, Mephisto

This didn’t appear on CMLL’s website, which I meant to ask about Saturday but never got around to. It was on the CMLL Magazine handout, which @LuchaFans helpfully shared.

IWRG (WED) 02/03/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Ángel De La Muerte I & Ángel De La Muerte II vs Alas de Acero & Aramis
2) Dragón Fly, Fireman, Omega vs Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Vampiro Metálico
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy vs Avisman, Hip Hop Man, Vórtize
4) Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Hijo del Alebrije, Pantera I vs Diablo Jr. I, El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
5) Argos, Danny Casas, Emperador Azteca vs Apolo Estrada, Canis Lupus, Eterno

A regular IWRG show on a Wednesday is odd.