Como Estaz 2×2: Aereo’s bite

Saturday, we saw an all minis show and a kinda-of indies versus CMLL event. We talk about them for about 40 minutes, plus/minus unexplained breaks.

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There were a few more people around the microphone (/cell phone with a recording app); I did something to improve the volume but I’m not entirely sure it worked. Hopefully everything comes thru.

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Ingobernables and Cavernario win prior to Anniversary show

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CMLL (FRI) 09/12/2014 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro b Shockercito & Stukita
Rudos took 1/3
2) Misterioso Jr., Puma, Skándalo b Black Panther, Pegasso, Tritón
Rudos took 1/3
3) Cavernario, Pólvora, Rey Escorpión b Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
Rudos took 1/3 again, with Cavernario beating up Cometa early and beating him clean to end the match.
4) Fuego, Titán, Valiente b Ephesto, Hechicero, Niebla Roja
Fuego replaced Mascara Dorada (moved to different match) on Monday. Tecnicos tooks 2/3.
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Dorada replaced Dragon Rojo (who did appear on commentary). Tecnicos won in straight falls when Thunder attacked everyone, including catching Marco’s Air Italia and slamming him.
6) Diamante Azul, La Máscara, Rush b Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker
Tecnicos took 1/3 in a brawl.

Nothing changes for next Friday. Brazo de Plata is the Dragon Rojo replacement on Tuesday. Thunder deal came off like they were trying to not just turn him rudo, but make him a new top of the card rudo. I would guess more of the same next week.

Lucha Underground resumes taping today. Fenix, Pentagon and Drago are on the shows, but Ricochet/Prince Puma will not be – he’s off to Evolve for the weekend.

AAA’s TV will air Myzteziz vs Perro Aguayo Jr. today.

Electroshock and Gronda are at the Hard Rock Show in Cancun, even though they weren’t on the card. Guess they are now.

Lineups

IWRG FILL (TUE) 09/16/2014 Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Niko, Vardeus, Voltar vs Mercenario De La Muerte, Sexy Girl, Último Caballero
2) Chicanito & Vampiro Metálico vs Ciclon & Guerrero 2000
3) Black Cobra, Extraño, Galaxy vs Fly Boricua, Magnum 44, Mardux Jr.
4) Alfa, Omega, Sky Ángel vs Atomic Star, Hip Hop Man, Matrix Jr.
5) Chucho el Roto, Dante, Euro, Ironía, Sider, Sky Flay, Super Terry, Yakuza vs Andy Boy, Ciclon, Dr. Killer, Guerrero Mixtico, Haziel, Karate Kid, Orión, Tony Rivera [Copa High Power]
AULL vs Neza Boys
6) Anubis Black, Capitán Muerte, Emperador Azteca, Látigo, Metaleon, Power Bull, Saruman, Zurdog vs Alan Extreme, Apolo Estrada, Avisman, Canis Lupus, Eterno, Golden Magic, Imposible, Veneno [Copa HIgh Power]
FILL vs IWRG

A double Copa High Power show! There are so many interesting cards on Tuesday, and pretty much none on Monday and Wednesday. They’ll do well because it’s targeting the casual fans who will go to a show on a holiday, but the hardcore fan in me really wishes they’d spread those out a bit better.

Como Estaz 2×1: waiting for Hechicero

We’re back in Mexico, so the podcast makes an unlikely return.

Listen as we struggle with the combination of jet lag and a sometimes boring CMLL show!

Marvel at my inability to improve the sound quality!

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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-08-16

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taped 2014-08-05 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
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great match roundup, week of 2014-08-16

Great/Excellent matches
AAA on Televisa: 2014-08-16
Angélico vs Hijo del Fantasma, Australian Suicide, Fénix, Bengala, Jack Evans, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr., Daga ©, Bengala for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship: [GREAT]
Psycho Clown vs Texano Jr., hair/mask: [GREAT]

Shows Watched But Nothing Made The List
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-08-16
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-08-16
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-08-16
AAA on Televisa: 2014-08-16

Matches To Watch Later
IWRG Zona XXI: 2014-08-16
taped 2014-08-13 @ Arena Naucalpan
Golden Magic © vs Canis Lupus for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship:
Alan Extreme, Black Terry, Metaleon vs Ironía, Spider Boy, Yakuza [captains hair]

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Mexico preview, IWRG lineup

The focus of tonight’s Arena Mexico card is on next week’s semimain. La Mascara & Rush team with Diamante Azul to face Shocker and Negro Casas (tag team champs) along with Mr. Niebla to set up next week’s title match. Cavernario and Cometa meet in the tercera. Atlantis is not booked this week, while Ultimo Guerrero is in action in the semimain.

Well wishes for CMLL’s anniversary show include Tanahashi picking Atlantis to win (near the end)

Rob has highlights of this year’s Verano de Escandalo

LuchaWorld has a review of Block B of the CMLL Universal tournament and 50 to 40 on the best of 2013 list.

Segunda Caida reviews Negro Casas, Shocker, Terrible vs Máximo, Rey Escorpión, Rush in a relevos increíbles match

Starfire lost to Io Shirai in her second Stardom 5GP match.

Atlantis says he always knew they’d have the mask match this year after last year’s near miss.

There’s a new (small) El Santo statue in Mexico CIty

La Parka met a giant 11 year old.

Lineups

IWRG (SUN) 09/14/2014 Arena Naucalpan 
1) Alfa & Omega vs Anubis Black & Araña de Plata 
2) El Divo & Silver Star vs Freyser & Hip Hop Man 
3) Dr. Cerebro, Kenshi Kabuki, Relámpago vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo 
4) Hijo De Dos Caras, Súper Nova, Veneno vs Demon Clown, Eterno, Oficial AK47 
5) Cien Caras Jr., Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 Jr. vs Canis Lupus, Trauma I, Trauma II

Rudos contra rudos in the main event.

09/12-14 lucha times

This might be the last post before I leave for Mexico. (Except for the 15 I just wrote up.) Again, I’ll do my best to record and upload anything, but no promises – less promises than usual, anyway.

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== AAA ==

AAA-Televisa: Part 1 of Pachuca. Myzteziz/Perro probably deserves a week of hype, so maybe Super Fly/Aerostar this week?

== CMLL ==

FOX2: Ingobernables versus Peste Negra, Rey Cometa versus Cavernario

52MX: Atlantis, Valeinte, Volador vs Euforia, Rey Escorpion, Ultimo Guerrero

Claro: Diamante Azul, Mascara Dorada, Valiente vs Euforia, Ephesto, Mephisto

C3: Super Porky, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible

TVC Deportes (Puebla): Next in line is the Electrico/Espiritu Maligno title match

Lucha Azteca: CMLL Universal final airs this week.

Terra Sunday: Diamante Azul vs Euforia

== Other ==

Noches de Coliseo: probably reruns

IWRG (LAS/AYM): Diva Salvaje, Relampago, Veneno vs Canis Lupus, Eterno, Oficial Ak47

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Heroes Inmortales in SLP, lumberjack fight in IWRG, Lucha Underground

IWRG (WED) 09/10/2014 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring]
1) Galaxy COR Matrix Jr.
Matrix was hurt and strechered out.
2) Alfa & Omega b Atomic Star & Capitán Muerte
3) Apolo Estrada Jr., Dragón Celestial, El Divo b Guerrero Mixtico Jr., Hip Hop Man, Picudo Jr.
Apolo Estrada replaced Silver Star (and “El Divino” was Monterrey’s El Divo.) Guerrero Mixtico Jr. and Picudo replaced Rayan and Spartan.
4) Chucho el Roto, Ironía, Yakuza b Alan Extreme, Imposible, Miss Gaviota
Miss Gaviota & Alan Extreme replaced Kenshi Kabuki & Metaleon. Team AULL wins again.
5) Diva Salvaje, Relámpago, Veneno b Canis Lupus, Eterno, Oficial AK47 [lumberjack strap]
luchadors in the match got annoyed with being strapped so much by the lumberjacks, so they stole the strap and attacked the lumberjacks. Tecnicos beat the rudos in the ensuing chaos.

A show! A show with a lot of replacements.

Taya posted her schedule for the next month or so on Facebook (screen captured here). She’s working the 10/10 Tlahuelilpan taping, and also the 10/12 Heroes Inmortales show in San Luis Potosi. That’s the first I’ve seen of a date/location for Heroes Inmortales, but it was expected AAA would start talking about it this weekend on TV. There’s nothing apparent for the show: they’ve got Cancun, a mystery taping and Tlahuelilpan left prior to it, but I’d bet on another random tournament.

This week’s Tercera Caida is up. They had Extreme Tiger as guest for the after the show segment.

Llaves and Canados/ColiseoMania has announced future shows on 11/02 and 11/30.

Arkalis talks about his upcoming Puebla debut.  He mentioned being trained by Massenger Z, Malayo, Centella de Oro, and more recently Skayde and Black Tiger.

The LLF Extreme show featured good matches and a TLC match which ended in a double pin draw somehow.

Maki Narumiya, who recently traded back and forth the REINA International Junior title with Silueta, and Makoto announced they’d be coming to CMLL on 10/12. They’ll be around for a couple of weeks.

The Wrestling Observer, who’s take on the Lucha Underground project makes me look sunny and optimistic, found out the names some of the various characters. Ricky Reyes will be Cortez Castro, Lil Cholo will be Cisco and Esekiel Jackson is using Big Ryck. The evil management figure’s name remains unknown, with the best guess is he’s an actor they brought in (and can be assumed not to be wrestling if that’s the case.) It also mention some deal was worked out to allow Ricochet to continue working Evolve shows. (It’s unmentioned if it extends to Japan.) It had a different more specific version of the end of the second episode: Chavo Guerrero Jr. runs off non-Mesias, lays out Demon, lays out referee one, lays out referee two, lays out B-Boy, lays out Famous B, lays out Sexy Star, goes back to beat up Demon and then sits in a chair and laughs as the show apparently ends. That does seem the right moment to laugh.

PWInsider says Matt Striker and Ivelisse Velez, who both appeared on the first set of Lucha Underground tapings, did sign contracts and are pulling out of conflicting indy dates. They also mention Brian Kendrick was offered a deal but turned it down. The WON is under the impression that everyone else who rumors but who didn’t show up just did not sign a deal. Meltzer is harsh on this point, pointing how much money was spent on the set and how much it costs to tape one episode a night (instead of two or three and doing less dates) and yet apparently were cheap when it came to spending on talent.

Pentagon, Drago and Fenix’s happy messages on Twitter confirm what I’ve heard elsewhere, that they’ll actually get to wrestle this week. The one (largely unintentionally) advantage of doing only one taping a night is there’s only two weeks where those guys do not appear, not a month or two. I’d still mess around with the airing to make sure their are two actual luchadors doing lucha libre on the main event of the first show of something Lucha Underground.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida really liked the Virus/Dragon Lee lightning match.

Atlantis/UG, Mephisto/Valiente, holiday lineups

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 09/09/2014 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Flyer & Star Jr. b Akuma & Espanto Jr.
2) Cachorro, Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. b Disturbio, Hijo del Signo, Nitro
Starman replaced Hombre Bala Jr.
3) La Comandante, Tiffany, Zeuxis b La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit
Zeuxis replaced Seductora.
4) Sagrado DQ Fuego [lightning]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sagrado pulled Fuego’s mask for the DQ.
5) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, La Sombra b Boby Zavala, Hombre sin Nombre, Vangellys
La Sombra replaced Dragon Rojo (injury) on Monday. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Stuka Jr., Super Porky, Valiente b Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
Tecnicos took 1/3, Valiente beating Mephisto.

Looks like Mephisto/Valiente may be back on, but they have to set it up for a few weeks again (for whatever reason.) Also looks very odd Sombra wasn’t put in the main event and Stuka or Porky put down.

CMLL (TUE) 09/09/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Infierno & Ráfaga b Metatrón & Virgo
Rudos took 2/3.
2) Astral, Bam Bam, Último Dragoncito b Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito
Pequeno Nitro replaced Olimpico. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Dragon Lee b Virus, Olímpico, Smaker, Esfinge, Raziel, Omar Brunetti, Arkángel de la Muerte, Sky Kid, Cancerbero [cibernetico]
GDL vs DF. Eliminator order went (vaguely): Sky Kid, Arkangel, Omar, Raziel, Esfinge, Olimpico and Smaker got each other DQed and Dragon Lee defeated Virus to win. (No idea when Cancerbero went.)
4) Kamaitachi & Okumura b Gallo & Tritón
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Atlantis, Rush, Titán b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Tecnicos took 2/3, Atlantis sneaking off UG’s mask to beat him for the win.

Might as well pull UG’s mask while you still can!

CMLL preview of the Anniversary card says the Rey Cometa and Cavernario feud will finally come to an end. It just started, as far as they were concerned (but the idea here is they were feuding around the anniversary show in Guadalajara, also not reported on.) Also, all the blame for the ever shifting Puebla tag team tournament is put on Rush for challenging the tag team titles – although that doesn’t actually explain why Rush just can’t get multiple tag team title shots.

Black Terry Jr. posted highlights of Arez vs Keira, Belial & Impulso vs Dragon Lee & Star Jr. and the CMLL women’s four way.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida writes about Villano IV vs Chessman.

The CMLL minis are promoting their free all minis show this Saturday.

The Legends Imperial group promoted their 09/16 show.

A preview of the 09/16 ChilangaMask show in Arena Queretaro. Tickets go on sale for that one today and the promotion says they’ll be running Monterrey in upcoming months.

Arena Queretaro says AAA’s coming there on 10/15. It’s not clear if it’s a taping.

The full poster for the 09/28 ColiseoMania show includes Mascara Purprua and Big Neurosis added to matches.

DTU announced it’s next set of shows will be 09/26 in Tulancingo, 09/27 in San Miguel Cerezo, Hidalgo and 09/28 in Poza Rica, Veracruz

Segunda Caida watches Atlantis, Rush, Titán vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Demo reel for a CMLL Guadalajara show for OchoTV

Luchadors from AAA, CMLL and the indies were brought together to talk about lucha libre and music.

Lucha libre commission news: a promotion accuses the one in Tijuana of corruption, another news report notes there isn’t a sanctioned one in Queretaro.

Joe Lider says it was just a matter of time before he stopped dancing and changed sides.

The Gladiatores interviews Alberto el Patron about returning to Mexico and racism.

There’s a lucha libre movie festival in Colombia.

Lineups

CMLL (TUE) 09/16/2014 Arena México
1) Robin & Sensei vs Cholo & Guerrero Negro Jr.
2) Oro Jr., Starman, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Canelo Casas, Raziel
3) La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Silueta vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
4) Pegasso vs Virus [lightning]
5) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tritón vs Ephesto, Hombre sin Nombre, Rey Bucanero
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Titán, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Niebla Roja

That main event is not going to work unless Dragon Rojo recovers fast. Brazo de Plata is the biggest name tecnico who’s not booked anywhere yet, so probably here.

CMLL (TUE) 09/16/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Brillante, El Divino, Índigo vs Artillero, Disturbio, Súper Comando
2) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Maléfico, Ráfaga, Skándalo
3) Boby Zavala & Olímpico © vs Sky Kid & Smaker [OCCIDENTE TAG]
first defense
4) Diamante Azul, Dragon Lee, La Sombra vs Cavernario, Hechicero, Negro Casas
5) Atlantis vs Último Guerrero
billed as their final match before the hair match

Ah, the tag title defense. Should’ve guessed that. That semimain could be really good. The main event, probably not.

That’s 3 CMLL shows on one day. For fun (????), I figured out who’s working where. Who’s not working at all: Acero, Aéreo, Akuma, Ángel de Oro, Angelito, Apocalipsis, Arkángel de la Muerte, Astral, Bam Bam, Bengala, Brazo de Plata, Camorra, Demus 3:16, El Rebelde, Electrico, Esfinge, Espanto Jr., Espiritu Negro, Fantasy, Felino, Flyer, Fresbee, Gallo, Goya Kong, Hijo del Signo, Hombre Bala Jr., Inquisidor, Kamaitachi, Kráneo, Leono, Magnus, Marcela, Mercurio, Metálico, Metatrón, Molotov, Morphosis, Mr. Águila, Mr. Niebla, Nitro, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito, Pólvora, Princesa Sugheit, Psicosis, Puma, Ramstein, Shigeo Okumura, Shockercito, Skadi, Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stukita, Súper Halcón Jr., Tiffany, Tiger, Último Dragoncito, and Zayco.

top six stories of the last two weeks

  1. Lucha Underground started taping. There was a lot going on here. There was drama around the contracts given out; in the end, some of the rumored wrestlers either didn’t sign or just didn’t appear on the first two tapings. It was not a great weekend for luchadors: Drago, Fenix and Pentagon Jr. all missed the first two set of tapings due to visa problems, and Blue Demon was said to hurt his knee in a match with Chavo Guerrero. Mesias, as a surprise, did appear under a mask. With everyone else out, Demon, Chavo, Prince Puma (Ricochet) and Johnny Mundo (John Morrison) were the biggest stars on the first set of tapings. Fans who attended the shows were told they would have to sign non disclosure agreements; every match leaked out right after the taping anyway, and it was unclear how many people there were actually fans. (There were claims of the crowd being filled with “extras”, a producer said there were no “seat fillers.”) That’s generally the way you can sum up up the weekend: if you were there (and especially if you were involved with the production), you came away really happy with the main events on both shows and happy with the possibilities. If you were just reading the results on the internet, it came off as another doomed project in the mode of WSX or Lucha Libre USA and far away from the AAA invasion of the US it was billed to be. Tapings resume this weekend, with the Mexicans on the show this week.
  2. CMLL announced the full 09/19 anniversary card. The surprises included a Cavernario versus Rey Cometa hair match, which is a feud that’s been happening on the live shows but had not been shown on TV or publicized by CMLL in any other fashion (but is still happening to draw extra people to the show somehow.) It should be a great match, anyway. The other big news was the absence of Sombra, who defeated Volador for his mask last year. There’s no sign of injury (like Dragon Rojo) or not being available (like Dark Angel) to keep La Sombra off. In fact, it looked like CMLL was planning on putting Sombra in a trios title match as recently as last week, then shuffled around the card for whatever reason. Everyone in the potential trios title match still made on the card except Sombra. There’s probably something more to this but no one’s saying (and Sombra’s just RT-ed fan complaints about him being left, saying nothing on his own.) CMLL announced a press conference to talk about the card, then canceled it a day later because they may be shuffling it around again. CMLL announced the show would air on TV Azteca, then announced the deal was not done yet. Terra (not CMLL) announced the show would air on their website. No one’s retracted that one yet.
  3. Alberto el Patron will make his AAA in ring debut in Cancun this weekend. Alberto told the media his lawyers found the WWE non-compete contract unconstitutional, and he’ll be wrestling right away. Alberto did not appear on the Lucha Underground tapings, but it does appear he’s taking US indy bookings soon (and at high prices.)
  4. Ultimo Guerrero beat La Sombra to win the Universal championship. This was the expected outcome after the mask match was announced. Maybe more importantly, Ultimo Guerrero matches continue to be on autopilot.
  5. The first Myzteziz/Perro match in six years ended with a foul. They’ve picked right up where they left. This time, evil referee Rafael el Maya DQed Myzteziz for a supposed foul on Perro. The other singles match on AAA’s taping in Pachuca saw Super Fly also get DQed for purposefully fouling rival Aerostar. Joe Lider turned rudo on the tapings, joining Perros del Mal.
  6. Thunder returned to CMLL, turning rudo. Super Libre said he’s been training with Satanico, who had his work cut out for him. Thunder was gifted a spot on the Anniversary show over dozens of more deserving people for no obvious reason.
  • AAA and phone company NYXMobile announced a deal for AAA branded phones. They go on sale this weekend.
  • Astral won the CMLL minis championship, ending Pequeno Olimpico’s four year (and mostly quiet) title reign.
  • Marco & Rush won Block A of a tag team title shot tournament in Puebla, which then became a tournament for a trophy instead. They’ll face Block B winners Terrible & Rey Escorpion this Tuesday.
  • Dragon Rojo announced he’ll be out indefinitely due to a knee injury.
  • Alan Xtreme lost his hair in Naucalpan after the Neza Boys won via nefarious means.
  • Malefico took Exterminador’s hair in Guadalajara.
  • Hijo de Dos Caras kept the IWRG Heavyweight title in Naucalpan over Demon Clown. Demon Clown early won a strange ladder match earlier in the week

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