AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-28 

Australian Suicide

Recapped: 02/01/2017

What happened: Averno & Chessman got a cheap victory over the Apaches yet again. The slight difference this time it was the Xinetez who helped them, either turning back rudo or remaining rudo the entire time but having a mystery plan. Aerostar & Super Fly were the final two in a cage match and will meet at Rey de Reyes in a mask/hair match.

AAA did their best to edit Daga out from existence in the cage match.

There’s a tremendous amount of time spent on video packages to start the show and a replay the Psycho/Wagner press conference. If you’re not interested in all of that, you need to

What was good: Both matches were better than expected but neither was satisfying.

Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel.


2016 watch later catch up, part 13 of 13

be careful with your purses near Diablo

In this post

  • Rayo Star © vs Sky Man [Mucha Luchas SUPREMO], Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 08/20/2016 
  • El Hijo del Diablo vs Blatck Terry hair vs hair, Arena Naucalpan, 10/23/2016 
  • Puma King & Tiger Casas vs Neza Kid & Ronnie Mendoza, Arena Neza, 12/17/2016 
  • Leo, Mike, Rafy © vs Cerebro Negro, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro for the Mexico State Tag Team Championship, Arena Naucalpan, 12/21/2016 

And that’s it. I don’t plan on doing any more 2016 stuff (outside of Lucha Underground matches.) I’ve updated the 2016 MOTYC list one last time. By my count, I wrote about 1390 lucha matches  (up from 1194 last year), 109 (8%) were rated Great, 24 (2%) were rated Excellent. I don’t know what those numbers mean, but I’m fairly certain they are numbers. 

Rayo Star © vs Sky Man [Mucha Luchas SUPREMO]
Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México, 08/20/2016
FollingDTRUDO VISION+LuchaTVEstrellas del Ring

  1. Sky Man headscissors into seated toe hold (2:33)

  2. Rayo Star top rope frankensteiner (4:42)

  3. Sky Man Spanish Fly (7:01)

Winner: Sky Man
Match Time: 14:16

Review: [good] an athletic match, which is to be expected with these two guys, and one without a lot of serious errors, which is better than expected for these guys. Still, it seemed a slower match than usual, with a lot of time setting up spots and not a lot of build. They two big near falls before the finish were kind of more impressive than the finish itself, but those too suffered from spots being done for the reason than it was that guys’ turn. They can play a lot of great notes but still haven’t grasped how to put a song together (and don’t have someone to help them.) This was far smoother than expected with these guys, but they need to regularly work with better guys to take the next step up.

double rotation headscissors
of course there’s a balcony dive with these two
well timed lo mein pain

El Hijo del Diablo vs Black Terry for the hair
Arena Naucalpan, 10/23/2016
Estrellas del Ring+LuchaTV+LuchaTVIWRG tv

  1. Black Terry nudo (2:21)

  2. DQ Black Terry [excessive violence] (3:59)

  3. Hijo del Diablo martinete (10:13)

Winner: Hijo del Diablo (2/3)
Match Time: 16:33
Notes: Acero hands Diablo a guitar about nine minutes into the third fall, which he swings at Terry but hits the referee instead. Terry fouls Diablo walks around a bit, then covers. A second referee comes in, but Diablo kicks out at two. Acero distracts the referee, and Diablo gives Terry a martinete for the win.

Review: [good] It’s at this point where I can’t totally remember if I’ve seen this before, or if I just saw Diablo throwing the purse into the stands in clips. I don’t remember seeing the guitar bit before. This match, at least this time didn’t work for me. Terry destroys Diablo with brawling that didn’t always look good, but was so one sided that Terry came off like the rudo. Only, Diablo’s clearly the rudo in the end. It also felt a long and slower than the match needed, and it’s only affect was to get both guys to bleed (but the match went long enough that blood was dried by the time they got to the end.) I’m not sure how Diablo isn’t disqualified for hitting the first referee when he wakes up after the match. This was good but nothing to go out your way to see.

devastating plywood
referee is more blinded than hurt by the guitar wrapped around his head

Puma King & Tiger Casas vs Neza Kid & Ronnie Mendoza
Arena Neza, 12/17/2016
Adrian Martinez

Winner: Ronnie & Neza (Ronnie Spanish Fly TIger)
Match Time: 8:32 (joined in progress)

Review: [good] a medium level sprint; it’s better than you’d expect given the 5% attendance turnout but still something well short of the biggest/bestest match with all these four guys. (The ever mysterious Neza Kid doesn’t take out any seats with his dive.) The CMLL cats seem to flow better with Ronnie than Neza Kid, but the match is at a good level whichever guys is in it. There’s just not a lot to this one. Another good match but not anything you need to go out of you way to see.

a nice moonsault by the mysterious Neza Kid
Tiger roll counter dropkick

Leo, Mike, Rafy © vs Cerebro Negro, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro for the Mexico State Tag Team Championship
Arena Naucalpan, 12/21/2016
thecubsfanEstrellas del Ring

  1. rudos

    • Oficial Fierro powerbomb Leo (7:09)

    • Cerebro Negro floataround DDT Rafy (7:14)

  2. Tortuga Ninja

    • Leo huracanrana Fierro (4:18)

    • Rafy huracanrana AK47 (4:18)

    • Mike Cerebro huracanrana Negro (4:18)

  1. Tortuga Ninja

    • Mike splash Fierro (5:11)

    • Leo inside cradle Cerebro Negro (5:15)

    • Rafy inside cradle AK47 (5:15)

Winner: Tortuga Ninjas (2/3)
Match Time: 16:47

Review: [good] an entertaining comedy match, with the Turtles getting in some of their usual spots and playing off other ones. It never hits a competitive level for a great title match, but it’s solidly entertaining match with the rudos stooging around and the Turtles looking unbeatable when they have things going their way. I didn’t watch nearly enough 2016 Ninja Turtles but it’s nice to end with an easy to watch match.

Tortgua loose into the crowd
hiptosses for everyone
Teelo on a roll

Diamante Azul/Rush in Puebla, Bucanero/Stuka? tonight, Yoshi Tatsu in Coacalco

CMLL (MON) 02/06/2017 Arena Puebla [CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva]
1) El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, Perverso b Arkalis, Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Dalys, La Seductora, Zeuxis b La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Okumura, Puma, Tiger b Drone, Esfinge, Soberano Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla b Máximo Sexy, Stuka Jr., Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Mr. Niebla replaced Negro Casas. Stuka was stretchered off after a knee injury.
5) Diamante Azul, Euforia, Valiente DQ Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles] LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE FEBRERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush fouled Azul.

Third match is the match worth watching on the show.

Stuka appeared to be hurt on a plancha in the second fall of his match. That’s an issue more than usual because Stuka’s getting a rare three fall singles match tonight against Rey Bucanero. We’ve seen guys leave matches with injuries and then show up fine soon after, but this is a quick turnaround in what looked like it would be a tough match normally. CMLL hasn’t said anything about Stuka being replaced, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be a sub. (Stuka’s also weirdly booked in Guadalajara too, and someone’s definitely replacing him.)

There’s also got to be something up with Negro Casas, since Niebla’s replacing him in multiple places this week. That includes the main event tonight, with Niebla teaming with Felino & Ultimo Guerrero versus Carsitico, Maximo and Volador Jr. in the usual go home happy main event. There’s some maybe good stuff in the middle of the card. Drone, Guerrero Maya, and Soberano face Hechicero, Misterioso and Vangellys, and the Panthers & Stigma take on Skandalo, Virus, and Sagrado. The second match of the doomed is Oro Jr., Pegasso and Starman against Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo and Metalico; we’re spared Arkangel this week. The partnership of Acero & Aereo, who really need a team name, take on Pequeno Nitro & Pequeno Olimpico.

CultIcon has a preview. The show airs on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 7:30pm.

Guadalajara has a main event for the national trios titles, with the Hijo del Infiernos against Atlantis, Angel de Oro and Titan. A title change would be a surprise but can’t be totally ruled out.

Black Terry Jr. has photos from Sunday’s DTU show in Tulancingo. They seem to have drawn very well.

ESPN Mexico had a nicely lengthy interview with Atlantis. Not a lot of new info about his career but it’s a good recap. His sons come up. He’s got two, one 20, one 18. Both trained with Ringo Mendoza for a few years, but the older one is interested in other things besides lucha libre. The younger one was the one seen at Arena Coliseo but is also years away from debuting. Atlantis wants to retire someday with zero warning, which is the way I want to go too.

Lucha Memes 02/19 in Coliseo Coacalco
1: Totem I & II vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako 
2: Ronnie Mendoza vs Hechicero
3: Diva Salvaje & Demasiado vs Baby Star & Black Metal
4: Astrolux vs Demus 3:16
5: Yoshi Tatsu vs Aramis 

Lucha Memes promoter Dhani had to put up a video explaining why they were bringing in Tatsu and not Liger or Tanahashi, which seems like a ridiculously thing to have to answer. (They’re bringing in Tatsu because he’s in Mexico thru CMLL and the only way to get people from NJPW is when CMLL brings them in.) He does say Tatsu is in Mexico for only two weeks, which is going to crush the hopes and dreams of the NJPW fans and I could not be happier.

03/31 Revolution Pro (in Orlando) has Zack Sabre Jr. vs Penta el Zero M

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania and this week’s Lucha Report.

Lucha Va Voom’s promoters talk about reaching 15 years of running the company with this weekend’s Lucha Va Voom show.

Box Y Lucha 3270 has Diamante Azul on the cover.

Telemundo Dallas has a story about an aspiring local luchador who doubles as a painter.


CMLL (MON) 02/13/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja & Flyer vs Ares & Guerrero Espacial
2) Asturiano & Black Tiger vs Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr.
3) Lestat & Rey Samuray vs Disturbio & Policeman
4) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma vs Okumura, Pólvora, Sagrado, Skándalo, Virus [cibernetico]
5) Rush vs Diamante Azul
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, La Máscara, Negro Casas

Rush/Diamante Azul was awful last time and Puebla probably won’t make it better. Main event looks good (if Casas is there and not replaced by Niebla) and the cibernetico should be fun.

MDA (SUN) 03/05/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) La Chocolata & Sexy Piscis vs Chica de Arabia & La Gaviota
2) Babe Fox & Extreme Boy vs Gallardo & Mini Bengalí
3) Tekilita & the Tiger (Tamaulipas) vs Faceman & Vazco Jr.
4) Hijo de LA Park & Quinto Elemento vs Galactar & Ninja Jr.
5) LA Park, Masada (Texas), Rush vs Carlito, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Hernandez

That’s a very strange main event with guys who don’t exactly make sense together, but these shows seem to be more about names than good matches.

new lucha videos for the weekend of February 3rd, 2017

I didn’t get AAA this week because of a recording issue, but it’s already up on their YouTube channel.

YouTube playlist: Cloud Drive

02/04 & 02/05 WWC: Cloud Drive

02/04 Elite (best of episode): Cloud Drive

CMLL on 2017-02-03
Cloud Drive – matches 1 and 3 did not record complete
taped 2017-02-03 @ Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Shockercito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. vs Disturbio, Okumura, Virus
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
4) Titán vs Cavernario in a lightning match
5) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2017-02-04
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-01-23 @ Arena Puebla
1) Esfinge, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
2) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Diamante Azul vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
3) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs La Máscara, Máscara Año 2000, Vangellys

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-02-04
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-01 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Odín & Shadow Boy vs Araña de Plata & Keiser Dragón
2) Alfa, Aramis, Omega vs Adrenalina, Avisman, Diablo Jr.
3) Black Dragón, Dragón Fly, Pantera I vs Hip Hop Man, Mosca (Argentina), Pibe Alfajor
4) Chicano, Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Eterno

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-02-06
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-02-05 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Dragón & Dragón Fly vs Hip Hop Man & Pibe Alfajor
2) Eterno vs Demonio Infernal
3) Cerebro Negro © vs Mosca (Argentina) for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship
4) Danny Casas, Dr. Cerebro, Villano IV vs Herodes Jr., Negro Navarro, X-Fly
5) Mr. Electro & Pirata Morgan vs Golden Magic & Pirata Morgan Jr. in a relevos suicidas match

2016 Lucha Libre Win/Loss Records

I got these done a little earlier than usual, but then I’ve been busy with other posts.

Year (2009 on) Shows Matches
2009: 2368 shows, 10169 matches (+9 events from last year)
2010: 2590 shows, 11270 matches (+10)
2011: 2721 shows, 12044 matches (+17)
2012: 2890 shows, 13147 matches (+69)
2013: 2840 shows, 13419 matches (+116)
2014: 5551 shows, 25264 matches (+1)
2015: 6381 shows, 28863 matches (+56)
2016: 7032 shows, 31988 matches

Please note that I’ve already found at least one more 2016 since writing this post. No way the year total 7000 again any time soon. We’re on a pace for about 6000 right now. The increase is mostly because KrisZ was searching for posters, isn’t now, and surely is better for them. Promoters are getting slightly better about just uploading a card, but wrestlers are terrible at and so a lot of stuff will be missed. There’s probably a point where all this information isn’t even useful in bulk, and that’s likely a point I passed long ago.

All this date is available on here, if anyone needs it.

Most Matches

2008: Ultimo Guerrero (228)
2009: La Parka Jr. (211)
2010: Mistico (204)
2011: Último Guerrero & La Mascara (188)
2012: Último Guerrero (189)
2013: Último Guerrero (205)
2014: Atlantis (215)
2015: Atlantis (207)
2016: Atlantis (217)

217 Atlantis
216 Máximo
216 Último Guerrero
210 Volador Jr.
194 La Máscara
191 Psycho Clown
189 Mistico II
182 Valiente
171 Rush
169 Mephisto

Psycho Clown is the real notable inclusion. AAA luchadors never make it in this list. They seem to work less regularly and their lineups are harder to fine. Those AAA lineups turned up more in 2016, and the fewer AAA main eventers meant Psycho Clown was working a lot. The most in 2015 for AAA was Pentagon Jr. at 144, so that’s an increase of a month full of matches. Pagano, Monster and Murder Clown are all grouped around at 157.We will all be long gone from this world, not even a memory, and Atlantis will still be wrestling 200 matches a year. Still, Atlantis might only be the top of the list because Volador was in NJPW for three weeks. These numbers are never completely accurate and always missing small shows that aren’t advertised anywhere online (or maybe anywhere at all when it comes to CMLL private shows); the top four probably should thought of as a tie.

Aeroboy had the most of luchadors who were primarily indie wrestlers at 126. (Mascara Sagrada Jr. is technically higher, but it’s either the two different sons getting billed with the same name, or the ex-AAA wrestler and usual Billy Boy partner using the name too.)

Most Wins

2008: Blue Panther (97)
2009: Mistico (110)
2010: Mistico (128)
2011: Ultimo Guerrero (90)
2012: Atlantis (93)
2013: La Mascara (102)
2014: Atlantis (99)
2015: Volador Jr. (113)
2016: Volador Jr. (120)

120 Volador Jr.
101 Atlantis
093 Máximo
093 Mistico II
093 Valiente
086 Último Guerrero
085 Stuka Jr.
079 Carístico
079 Marco Corleone
074 Ángel de Oro

It’s the usual CMLL top 10, almost all tecnicos and one Ultimo Guerrero. Psycho Clown led AAA luchadors with 44, which illustrates the reporting difference between the two main promotions. If he was a CMLL wrestler, he’d be one behind Puma and tied with Astral. Trauma I is just behind with 43 wins. Flyer won 48 times, which tells you a lot about how much wins mean in CMLL.

Most Losses

2008: Averno (84)
2009: Negro Casas (86)
2010: Negro Casas (75)
2011: La Mascara (72)
2012: Ultimo Guerrero (79)
2013: Ultimo Guerrero (84)
2014: Ultimo Guerrero (82)
2015: Ultimo Guerrero (80)
2016: Ultimo Guerrero (91)


91 Último Guerrero
84 Mephisto
80 La Máscara
72 Máximo
68 Euforia
67 Negro Casas
67 Volador Jr.
67 Ephesto
65 Rush
64 Terrible

And this is the usual inverse to the wins list: rudos who wrestled a bunch, and tecnicos who wrestled the most. (Atlantis is just off the list at 63.) Next time UG’s on Informa, someone should ask him about having the most loses in lucha libre five years running. I bet that’ll go great.

Mamba won 11, lost 44 (most of AAA), had 1 draw and had 83 matches without a confirmed result. Trauma I & Emperador Azteca both have 36 losses, the most in indies, because they were in places where results turn up.

Best Win % (with at least 10 known results)

2008: Psycho Clown & Zombie Clown (100%)
2009: Psycho Circus (100%)
2010: Tondar (GDL) (100%)
2011: Mini Monster Clown (90%)
2012: Rayo de Oro (Guatemala) (97%)
2013: Tinieblas Jr. (90%)
2014: William Rock/Pequeno Violencia (92%)
2015: Súper Muñeco (93%)

84.62% Huracán Ramírez
83.33% Sky Kid
81.08% Electrico
80.95% Octagón
80.00% Avispón Negro Jr.
80.00% Miss Gaviota
80.00% Gemelo Muerte I
80.00% Matanza
79.63% Astral
79.41% Pimpinela Escarlata

“Huracan Ramirez” is multiple people using the same name.  Avispón Negro Jr. is a Arena Coliseo Guadalajara opening match tecnico who’s never been in angle. Matanza’s numbers only include Lucha Underground matches which have aired so far.

Worst loss % (with at least 10 known results)

2008: Carrona (0%)
2009: Espectrito (0%)
2010: Metailk II (GDL) (11%)
2011: Akron (13%)
2012: Mini Talisman (8%)
2013: Estrella De Fuego (5%)
2014: Psicosis I/Nicho el Millionario (0%)
2015: Lady Shani (5%)


10.53% Nahual (Morelos)
12.50% Paranoiko
13.04% Pequeño Universo 2000
15.63% Mr. Apolo (Jalisco)
16.28% Pequeño Nitro
16.67% Power Bull
16.67% Mariposa
17.07% Lady Shani
17.65% El Chacal (Jalisco)
17.86% Último Gladiador

Nahual is part of a trio with locals Hechicero & Raksas in Cuernavaca. Mr. Apolo is Avispon’s rudo opposite, though they don’t seem to have faced all that much (and Apolo hasn’t been around since November.) Power Bull mostly shows up IWRG FILL shows. Poor Mariposa picked up losses in the Lucha World Cup too. Hooray for Shani getting a modicum of wins in 2016.


IWRG results (Argentina wins), Puebla preview

IWRG (SUN) 02/05/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Araña de Plata b Aramis
Arana de Plata declared himself #1 contender to Relampago for the middleweight title
2) Black Dragón & Dragón Fly b Hip Hop Man & Pibe Alfajor
3) Eterno DRAW Demonio Infernal
both guys submitted each other at the same time
4) Mosca (Argentina) b Cerebro Negro © [IWRG IC WELTER]
Mosca won the title. Arana de Plata was Cerbero’s second, but purposefully hit him with a chair to set up Mosca’s win. Arana de Plata unmasked to reveal it was actually Hip Hop Man under the mask. Cerebro Negro loses the title on this second defense.
5) Danny Casas, Dr. Cerebro, Villano IV b Herodes Jr., Negro Navarro, X-Fly
Villano IV submited Negro Navarro. Danny Casas replaced Heddi Karoaui.
6) Máscara Año 2000 Jr. © DQ Trauma I [IWRG Rey del Ring]
Second defense. (Estrellas del Ring has Mascara 2000 Jr. winning the IWRG Juniors title instead?) Negro Navarro got caught hitting Mascara to cause his son to win.
7) Mr. Electro & Pirata Morgan b Golden Magic & Pirata Morgan Jr. [relevos suicidas]
Mr. Electro beat Golden Magic, then Pirata Morgan defeated his son. Pirata Jr. & Golden Magic will have an apuesta match on 02/12. The Piratas beat up Golden Magic after the match, with Herodes Jr., Mascara 2000 Jr. and Mr. Electro trying to make the save. Villano IV and Negro Navarro attacked them. Pirata said Villano IV and Navarro were now together as Los Consagrados.

Negro Navarro, Villano IV and Pirata Morgan against Herodes Jr., Mascara 2000 Jr. and Mr. Electro is not a feud for me. On the other hand, everyone’s going to show up to yell at Golden Magic again next week and that’ll be fun. Pretty strong evil plan for Hip Hop Man.

Today’s Arena Puebla show has a promising tercera. Puma, Tiger and Okumura take on Drone, Soberano and Esfinge. The Casas kids are usually good, Drone & Soberano are usually good, and the other guys can usually be pulled along in good matches.

The rest of the show, I’m not sure about. the main event is Rush, Volador and Pierroth against Diamante Azul, Euforia and Valiente. The Diamante Azul & Pierroth feud was dreadful on Friday. They’ve got better people around them but it’s also a Monday ngith in Puebla. Maximo, Stuka and Titan versus Negro Casas, Felino and Cavernario could be a good match, but it’s probably more likely an easy crowd friendly match. The women are in the segunda, with Vaquerita, Jarochita and Marcela against Dalys, Zeuxis and Seductora. The six random people picked for the opener are Arkalis, Hijo de Centella Roja (first match without his father), Meyer versus Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, and Perverso. Chicana’s been around forever, but the others are young guys who might be motivated to do something.

CultIcon has a preview of the show. The show airs on CMLL’s YouTube at 9pm.

AMW says their show of random indie matches will now be on Green TV, Saturdays on 9pm. The channel does stream free on the internet (and AMW started to put up their episodes.) It’s unclear when that starts; they’re not on the website’s schedule right now. The promotion was airing on EfektoTV until the end of the year, but had been in reruns for months. There was an AMW show this weekend, so they might have new content whenever they turn up.

La Rebelion are going to Monterrey on 02/20 for a a fan meeting.

Psycho Clown & Pagano are coming to New York on 03/25 (which is a different show from Psycho Clown coming on 02/18.)

MedioTiempo writes about the Pentagon/Fenix trademark situation.

great match roundup, week of 2017-01-21

The last two weeks of FansticaMania meant I liked a lot. Still searching for the first Excellent match but a lot of Good matches all around. Even in AAA! I think this the fewest percentage of matches below the cut line since I’ve started to do this.

Down to four shows a week, which means I’m going to try and make doing a bonus recap/catchup as part of the rotation, but we’ll see. Just catching up on recaps this point was a pain.

Good or better matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Atlantis vs Rush NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
great Máximo Sexy © vs Hechicero for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
great Mistico vs Euforia NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
great Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
great Mephisto © vs Carístico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship Mephisto © vs Carístico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscara de Bronce vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscara de Bronce vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown (posted by thecubsfan) Lucha inicial de Chilpancingo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Enero 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21 2016-12-17
good Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Súper Fly Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Súper Fly (posted by thecubsfan) Lucha semifinal desde Chilpancingo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Enero 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21 2016-12-17
good Stuka Jr. vs Okumura NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Kushida, Ryusuke Taguchi, Soberano Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Okada, Will Ospreay NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good David Finlay, Dragón Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson, Titán vs Bushi, EVIL, Hiromu Takahashi, Naito, Sanada NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Mistico & Volador Jr. vs Euforia & Último Guerrero NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Jushin Liger, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask vs Hechicero, Okumura, Raziel NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Dragón Lee & Titán vs Bushi & Hiromu Takahashi NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Juice Robinson, Máximo Sexy, Ryusuke Taguchi vs Ephesto, Okada, Will Ospreay NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Atlantis, David Finlay, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kushida vs EVIL, Naito, Rush, Sanada NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Pegasso, Stigma, Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, VirusLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-01-24 2017-01-24
good Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Ripper, Sam Adonis, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-01-24 2017-01-24
good Shockercito & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio Shockercito & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27

Everything else:


Volador defeats Rey Fenix, CMLL weekend results

photo by Black Terry Jr.

CMLL (SAT) 02/04/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pierrothito b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito
2) Artillero, Hijo del Signo, Nitro b Flyer, Sensei, Star Jr.
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Valiente b Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
Tecnicos took 2/3
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]
UG snuck in a foul on Rush. Rush wants a rematch.

UG vs Rush is an odd rudo/rudo match to do, but one they’ve done in the past.

Cara Lucha (SAT) 02/04/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Imperio Negro, Samael, Ying Sang b Caballero De Plata, Estrella De Oro, Hijo de Clímax
2) Hermano Calavera I & Hermano Calavera II b Drako & Sádico
3) Templario © b Corsario Negro Jr. [CaraLucha The Best] Templario vs Corsario Negro Jr. (campeonato) | Cara Lucha | 04-02-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
first defense. Said to be good match.
4) Black Terry & Toxin b Rayo Star & Titán (CMLL) [Juventud y Gloria, quarterfinal] Titan y Rayo Star vs Black Terry y Toxin | Cara Lucha | 04-02-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
Good match. Terry & Toxin face Demus 3:16 & Yoruba on a future show
5) Volador Jr. b Fénix El Rey Volador Jr. vs Fenix | Cara Lucha | 04-02-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial) Volador Jr. vs Rey Fénix, mano a mano inédito en Caralucha (4 Febrero 2017) (posted by +LuchaTV)
Good match (though maybe not better than that.) Volador challenged Fenix to a mask vs hair match.

Add these three matches to the already long list of matches I want to see but haven’t gotten around to enough to have a coherent opinion.

CMLL (SUN) 02/05/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Leono, Magnus, Marvel b Akuma, Apocalipsis, Inquisidor
Would’ve been Espiritu Negro first match here since August, but Akuma replaced him. Magnus’ first match here since November.
2) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther b Cancerbero, Canelo Casas, Skándalo
3) Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr.
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
5) Carístico DQ Negro Casas
Caristico took 1/3, the last with a foul.

This show, which actually had a worthwhile main event, is not on VOD after last week’s one mysterious was on VOD. On the other hand, the DQ finish makes it not that worthwhile.

AAA put this week’s TV show up. This is great, because my recording failed. Those singles title matches did not air. I think that means they’re not official title defenses by normal AAA standards. (That is not important AT ALL to anyone but me.)

Roshfrans revealed their AAA tie up project will be announced on Tuesday. Konnan thinks it’s another talent search in the vein of Quien Pinta para la Corona.

The press release announcing Dorian Roldan as GM of Lucha Underground showed up in Mexico this weekend. Not sure what took so long.

Fresero Jr. posted a photo of him at the TV Azteca office, saying Lucha Elite would be coming back soon.

Penta and Daga are in Texas on 02/15.

Lucha Memes 02/19 in Coliseo Coacalco
1: Totem I & II vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako 
2: Ronnie Mendoza vs Hechicero
3: Diva Salvaje & Demasiado vs Baby Star & Black Metal
4: Astrolux vs Demus 3:16 – oh no Astrolux is going to die

02/09 in Tier 1 in New York will have Rey Horus vs Penta el Zero Miedo.

04/01 Wrestling Revolver in Orlando will have Rey Fenix & Penta el Zero M vs Brian Cage & Sami Callihan

04/01 SHIMMER in Orlando will have Dulce Garcia.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Sexy Violeta talks about getting into wrestling.

Ultimo Guerrero posted a video that references a meme I don’t know, I assume. Still kind of funny.


CMLL (SAT) 02/11/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Leono vs Akuma & Sangre Imperial
2) Flyer, Magnus, Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
3) Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Skándalo
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Mistico vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
5) La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

More loaded Saturday card this year. Main event is a rematch, which maybe means the Rush/UG match on 02/18.

CMLL (SUN) 02/12/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca & Marvel vs Artillero & Camorra
2) Astral, Star Jr., Starman vs Disturbio, Okumura, Virus
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón vs Bobby Z, Forastero, Sam Adonis
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino, Pólvora
5) Mistico, Titán, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Kinda-Sky Team vs Guerreros in the main event. Whatever reason is causing Johnny Idol to miss Tuesday’s show isn’t affected his other matches. Bobby Z still being listed as Bobby Z, FWIW. Astral getting a more normal match on his second appearance.

CMLL (SUN) 02/12/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Micro vs Destructor & Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Capitán Cobra, El Alteño, Fugaz vs Carlo Roggi, Linterna, Mr. Brisa
3) Flash II vs Maléfico, Vaquero Jr., Ráfaga, Smaker, Difunto, Explosivo, Relámpago, Star Black, Rey Trueno [Copa Guadalajara, cibernetico]
match in honor of Guadalajara reaching 475 years.
4) Frezzer & Furia Roja vs Joker & Sádico [hair]
2 hairs vs 2 hairs

That rudo/rudo feud ending in a hair match had been clear for a while, but it being 2v2 is a little bit of a surprise. Frezzer just lost his mask and this looks like a ending for him his brother Furia Roja, but smaller shows are more likely to surprise.

Zorro to the Crash, CMLL Torneo Increible de Parejas, Diamante Azul/Pierroth

Titan takes out both cave creatures

CMLL (FRI) 02/03/2017 Arena México [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Eléctrico & Shockercito b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. b Disturbio, Okumura, Virus
12:41. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
Revolucionarios took 1/3.
4) Cavernario b Titán [lightning]
Cavernario at 9:44, just before the time limit.
5) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy b El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
15:53. Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Volador Jr. DQ La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]
6:04. Ingobernables were DQed in the first fall after taping Diamante Azul to the ropes. They tied him to the ropes in the second fall, but he ducked out of his mask to foul Pierroth and get the pin. Ingobernbales beat him up again after the match.

I liked the lightning match and what I could see of the tercera. (I didn’t put the link up there because my copy is not useful.) The main event was painful.

CMLL made a couple changes to Tuesday’s Arena Mexico card. Mr. Niebla replaces Negro Casas in the main event, and Soberano Jr. gets a fourth match appearance when he replaces Johnny Idol.

The Crash news

The rest of the lineups are below, but there’s big news in this one

The Crash (SAT) 02/25/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Flamita © vs Séptimo Dragón [The Crash CRUISER]
2) Arkángel Danger, Black Boy, Oraculo vs Black Danger, Tiago, Último Maldito
3) Masada (Texas) & Nicho el Millionario vs Aeroboy & Violento Jack [rancho de texas]
4) Jack Evans, Máscarita Dorada, Willie Mack vs Bestia 666, Juventud Guerrera, Laredo Kid
5) Rey Horuz & Ricochet vs Daga & Fénix El Rey
6) Blue Demon Jr., Garza Jr., Zorro vs Brian Cage, Eli Drake, Jeff Jarrett

Zorro, who’s been in AAA since 2000, appears to have quit. He hasn’t directly confirmed it, but posted an inspirational message on Instagram hinting at it and RT-ed people asking him about this lineup. Zorro’s currently not booked on anything with AAA except for the March TV in Tlaxaca (where Scoria could easily replace him), so they may have known this was a possibility. Adictos el Deportes mentioned he was outside of AAA contract and working on a new one earlier this week. Guess they didn’t get the deal done.

Zorro’s one of the luchadors most associated with AAA, but he actually got his national start under that name in Promo Azteca, just before Konnan started there. He’s also had a stint in CMLL, and used the Zorro name before he came to AAA. It’s also, of course, a character created in 1919 that exists in many other forms besides a profesional luchador. AAA did register “EL ZORRO (EL PROFETA)” way back in 2011, but I don’t think they’d be able to actually stop him from using the name, assuming they could stop anyone from using any name.

Jeff Jarrett isn’t the only guy from TNA, with Eli Drake (as seen in past Lucha World Cups) joining him. Random Trivia: Drake was in Todos x el Todos doing the same Border Patrol sort of gimmick he’ll be doing here, but got a WWE developmental deal. They replaced him in the trio with Brian Cage, in his first Mexico City appearance. That match probably won’t be great but will get good heat.

Blue Demon Jr. did an interview where he says he doesn’t plan on retiring until he at least reaches 40 years of wrestling. He’s 51 now, so he’d be 59 years old at that point. He’s not much good now, so he’ll be – well, whatever. They’re remodeling the Blue Demon store near Arena Mexico and he was signing autographs there last night.

The semimain looks awesome and would sell the show on iPPV alone. Opener should be good. Rancho de Texas (barbed wire) is not my thing but they did get the right people for it.

Fenix says he’s going to wrestle under the name REY FENIX, all caps, no accent marks, and he’s getting everything registered. Or maybe REY FENIX (US) and REY FENIX (EURO). Or maybe everyone’s just going to keep calling him Fenix and AAA will just send legal notes but not actually do anything.

Everything Else

CMLL Coliseo tonight has Euforia, Gran Guerrero and Ultimo Guerrero against La Mascara, Pierroth and Rush in a rudos vs rudos main event.

CaraLucha has the Volador vs Fenix first time ever singles match, as well as Templario defending the “CaraLucha The Best” title against Corsario negro Jr., and Rayo Star & Titan vs Black Terry & Toxin in their veterans/youngsters tournament.

Arena Lopez Mateos has a Rey Hechicero & Solar I vs Caifan & Negro Navarro maestros main event

Emperador Azteca didn’t make the CHIKARA show today, but Fly Warrior replaced him. He did well for himself in a four way elimination match, even while being the second guy out.

Los Revolucionarios said Bobby Z’s name will now be Bobby Villa, in honor of Pancho Villa. I thought they were joking around, but it may be an actual name change.

WWS Women’s Champion Keneisha Moon retired on Tuesday’s Arena Aficion. She just started two years ago, and just won their title on January 14th.

Hiromu Takahashi did a Japanese language interview talking about his experiences in Mexico. He says he worked up to 9 matches a week at times, and didn’t really get/like the style until he matched up with Dragon Lee and it clicked.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of Aqui esta Lucha, talking with LA Park among the highlights.

LuchaWorld has the latest edition of the podcast.


CMLL (FRI) 02/10/2017 Arena México
1) Astral & Príncipe Diamante vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
3) Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs La Máscara, Ripper, Rush
4) Carístico & Mephisto vs Cavernario & Volador Jr. and Kráneo & Marco Corleone and Diamante Azul & Pierroth and Ángel de Oro & Rey Bucanero and Máscara Año 2000 & Máximo Sexy and Puma & Rey Cometa and Blue Panther & Tiger [natl pi, seeding battle royal]
5) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
6) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
7) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
8) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
9) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, quarterfinal]
10) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, quarterfinal]
11) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, semifinal]

The Torneo Increible de Parejas is back! It’s probably still going to be full of five minutes matches with at least 25% of the partners betraying each other in terrible action. This week will be especially bad because everything is about that Azul & Pierroth team. (Notable, the Panther/Ripper thing seems to have been dropped at the same time that started. Maybe it’ll be back, but I dunno.)  This is good news, only in that I got a ticket for AAW, not sure if I’d be able to use it if CMLL had something worthwhile next Friday. They most definitely will not, it’ll be the second part of this mess. Caristico/Mephisto, Cavernario/Volador, Azul/Pierroth are the teams with actual chances.

Astral makes his CMLL debut by…teaming with the other guy who was just in the minis division who has lost every single match since he’s been moved up. It may be a long road for Astral to get anywhere.

IWRG (WED) 02/08/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Kanon vs Acero
2) Omega vs Adrenalina
3) Diablo Jr. vs Aramis, Araña de Plata, Alfa, Shadow Boy
4) Black Dragón, Chicano, Pantera I vs Hip Hop Man, Violencia Jr., Vortice
5) Dragón Fly vs Demonio Infernal
6) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Miss Gaviota, Nigma

Tortugas Ninjas vs Exoticos. Demonio Infernal gets a big match against the guy who unmasked him. Guessing the other Argentina guys are finishing up this weekend if not on these cards.

Muchas Luchas (SAT) 02/25/2017 Arena Roberto Paz, Guadalajara, Jalisco
1) Black Golden, Implacable, Paymon Dark vs Ivan Drago, La Trakalosa, Nexus Fly
2) Estrella Oriental vs Rey Plata
3) Alex & Demasiado vs Crazy King & Histeria 2.0
4) Brian Villa & Willy Banderas vs Joker & Sádico
5) Rayman vs Gallo
6) Makabre vs Black Terry

Guadalajara’s super indie returns with come Jalisco vs CMLL matches. (The main event is one too, if you think of Arena Coliseo Tag Champ Black Terry as a CMLL guy for the moment.)


CMLL on 2017-02-03 

Dragon Rojo blasts his hat off

Recapped: 02/03/2017

What happened: a Los Ingobernables continues to feud with Diamante Azul, only this time Azul abandoned his mask to foul Pierroth and get the win. The Revolucionarios won again as a team, continuing their win streak since adding Bobby Z (who was joked to be Bobby Villa on the night.) My internet went out a couple times and I missed portions of the show.

What was good: Titan/Cavernario was really good and what I saw of the the Revolucionarios trios was pretty good. The main was bad.

Where can I watch it: The matches I have complete will be on my Twitter feed and I’ll track down the other ones elsewhere. (more…)