como estaz 2×8: ultimo evento

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Ultimo Guerrero gets Atlantis’ mask, kind of

CMLL (SUN) 09/21/2014 Arena Coliseo [thecubsfan]
1) Metatrón & Star Jr. b Akuma & Cholo
Tecnicos took 2/3, where Star Jr. was the best man in the match
2) Eléctrico, Stukita, Último Dragoncito b Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
Tecnicos took 2/3. Pierrothito took off Stukita’s mask in the second by accident, Dragoncito beat Pierrothito in the third.
3) Boby Zavala, Kamaitachi, Okumura b Fuego, Hombre Bala Jr., Pegasso
Rudos won, taking falls 1/3. Kamaitchi unmasked Fuego and covered him for the win.
4) Stuka Jr. b Hechicero [lightning]
Stuka torpedo splash in just over nine minutes
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Super Porky b Misterioso II, Pierroth, Sagrado
Tecnicos took 2/3 in a bit of a brawl.
6) Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Mephisto, Rey Escorpión, Último Guerrero
Tecs took 2/3. UG ripped a fan’s Atlantis mask during the match, and later fouled pulled Atlantis own mask for the disqualification. Volador got Atlantis a mask from a fan too but UG also destroyed it. Atlantis was given a third mask. The tecnicos covered him up and Ultimo Guerrero stormed out the front door (and to the WMC show…)

Fun show live. Crowd was very into the main event, with the support for Guerrero louder than Atlantis. Fuego and Kamaitachi looks like a fun feud.

Arena Coliseo was a fun venue to see lucha in; fans are loud and right on top of the ring. Also, if you are an autograph or photo hunter, the wrestlers enter right next to the fans. Get there early enough and you can see everyone.

(Terra will be up later.)

Next week’s lineup:

CMLL (SUN) 09/28/2014 Arena México
1) Robin & Sensei vs Akuma & Espanto Jr.
2) Cachorro, Pegasso, Starman vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Skándalo
3) La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Zeuxis
4) Fuego vs Kamaitachi [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Rey Cometa vs Cavernario, Hombre sin Nombre, Pólvora
6) Diamante Azul, Máximo, Rush vs Euforia, Terrible, Thunder

Fuego/Kamatachi happening. Maximo returns. Main event should be interesting for Thunder against those tecnicos.

Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero, other notes

update notes: one more podcast tonight whenever we get back from Arena Coliseo. Maybe a quick results post tonight depending on the time. Two more Lucha80s reviews should auto post in the next day or so, but probably not any news on Monday. The Tuesday video post is being pushed back to the evening to give me enough time to actually get it done.

Most of the links I have today are Anniversary reaction pieces. LuchaWorld has a recap of the Anniversary show from the stream and Phil did live reviews at Segunda Caida. All the videos I recorded are here.

Atlantis is thrilled to still be masked. Ultimo Guerrero says he isn’t going anywhere, and wanted to use the Atlantida during the match but never quite could get it. He’s also open to hair match feuds.

Black Terry Jr. has video of the finish and Rob has a ton of videos of the show on his Instagram.

La Copa, Cronicas y Leyendas and ESPN Deportes have articles about the meaning of the finish. Los Colisenos talks about where this places Atlantis in history, while La Cathedral calls it a one match show. SuperLuchas says Barbaro Cavernario is the future of CMLL. FWIW, the rumor going around Mexico is he’s back to the full “Barbaro Cavernario” name due to complaints from Cavernario Galindo’s family.

The Ultimo Guerrero/Atlantis results did make the cover of newspapers. No magazines out yet – they’re all supposed to be out on newsstands Monday morning, just before we leave.

Last night, Hechicero made a surprise appearance on the ChilangaMask show in Guadalajara to challenge Black Terry for a match. That’ll happen the next time they run in Monterrey, I believe. Hechicero took a 6 hour bus ride all the way to Guadalajara just to make the challenge, then took the bus all the way back. (CMLL luchadors are prohibited for working for anyone but Arena Coliseo Guadalajara in that town.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s Friday news update and KrisZ’s Saturday news update.

ProWrestlingWave says Mary Apache is coming to their 09/23 show.

Hijo del Fantasma says he doesn’t understand why Aerostar is getting a Cruiserweight title shot – he thought Aerostar gave it up to fight Super Fly instead – but he’ll retain the title anyway.

Ohtani’s Jacket writes about Villano III

80s Lucha DVD set, disc 2 (part 1 of 3)

Again, part of this project is you have to buy the DVDs, so I won’t be giving links to any of this. You’re also supposed to post your thoughts (which I’m doing, just not in the right place) and rank them all (which will require me finishing 8 more DVDs at a slightly faster clip.

This batch includes
Atlantis vs. El Satanico (1984)
Mocho Cota vs. Americo Rocca (1/27/84)
Mocho Cota vs. Americo Rocca (2/3/84)
Atlantis y Lizmark vs. El Egipcio y El Faraón (2/17/84)
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10/10 AAA TV Lineup (Tlahuelilpan)

AAA TV (FRI) 10/10/2014 Plaza de Toros, Tlahuelilpan, Hidalgo
1) Dinastía & Mascarita Sagrada vs Mini Abismo Negro & Mini Histeria
2) Jennifer Blake & Niño Hamburguesa vs Eterno & Taya Valkyrie
3) Australian Suicide & Jack Evans vs Joe Lider & Pentagón Jr.
4) Monsther Clown vs Chessman
5) El Mesías & Myzteziz vs Averno & Hijo del Fantasma
6) Blue Demon Jr. & Fénix vs Daga & el Hijo del Perro Aguayo

Air Date: 10/18 and 10/25? Maybe this gets compressed into one, because they’re starting to put up a backlog. AAA would be taping a month of TVs over three days (and not need to tape again until before the 11/15 TV show.)

This is in the odd position of taking place two days before Heroes Inmortales but not airing until after that show happens. That would seem to mean nothing important can happen here (and the lineup seems to say the same), but AAA has been building from TV show to TV show rather than live event to live event – most of the fans watching this show on TV won’t know what happened in Heroes Inmortales so they could set stuff up here. Or at least that’s the theory.

Fenix and Daga get a main event shot, while Myzteziz and Averno are relegated to the semimain for this show. This is listed as off weekend for Lucha Underground (and it’s probably no concidence this is when AAA is running two shows.)

Fantasma being booked for this show and Aerostar not seems to be a spoiler, but Aerostar’s career seems to be a spoiler.

Chessman seems to be fighting his way thru the Psycho Circus, from most ability to least (assuming the Murder Ckown match is happening next.) Tercera would be exciting if Lider and Eterno changed places.

Next taping is 10/12 in SLP for Heroes Inmortales, with Alberto del Rio advertised. I have not watched the last two weeks of TV yet (except for the Bengala match!) so maybe Heroes Inmortales matches are more evident on the program than the lineups. Right now, the only thing I can figure is something with Cibernetico’s new group and something with Alberto and Texano to get that going.

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CMLL 81st Anniversary Results (Atlantis defeats Ultimo Guerrero)

CMLL (FRI) 09/19/2014 Arena México [thecubsfan]
***CMLL 81st Anniversary show***
1) Blue Panther, Cachorro, Dragon Lee b Felino, Puma, Tiger Blue Panther, Cachorro, Dragon Lee vs Felino, Puma, Tiger, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Pompin was referee. Tecnicos took 1/3, with Cachorro and Dragon Lee defeating Puma and Tiger with their finishers (fujiwara, power-plex) in fall 3.
2) Zeuxis b Goya Kong, Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Amapola, Tiffany, Dallys la Caribeña [Copa 81 Aniversario] Goya Kong vs Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Amapola, Zeuxis, Tiffany, Dallys la Caribena [Copa 81 Aniversario], on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Edgar was ref. Order of elimination was Tiffany (via Sugehit), Estrellita (Amapola), Dallys (Goya Kong), Princesa Sugehit (Zeuxis), Goya Kong (Amapola cradle after a Zeuxis pin), Amapola (Marcela), Marcela (Zeuxis, her second package piledriver of the match) leaving Zeuxis as the surprise winner.
3) Máscara Dorada, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Thunder Mascara Dorada, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Thunder, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Tecnicos won in straight falls, taking the first clean and the second by DQ when Thunder press slamed Volador over the top rope. The rudos beat up the tecnicos (and QueMonito) after the match.
4) Cavernario b Rey Cometa [hair] Rey Cometa vs Cavernario, hair vs hair, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Cavernario took the first fall (despite a Cometa stage moonsault) with his pump splash. Cometa evened it with a 450 splash. After a long third fall with many big spots, Cavernario submitted Cometa to the cavernaria. The crowd was strongly in the match at the end despite being cold at the beginning.
5) Negro Casas & Shocker © b La Máscara & Rush [CMLL TAG] La Mascara & Rush vs Negro Casas & Shocker u00a9 for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Negro & Casas took falls 2/3 to retain their titles in the first defense. Rush & Mascara lost clean to the casita and the campana. No Sombra and no seconds on this show.
6) Atlantis b Último Guerrero [mask] Atlantis vs Ultimo Guerrero, mask vs mask, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Ultimo Guerrero won the first fall after a series of reversals ended with a cradle. Atlantis took the second with UG’s own Pulpo Guerrero. The third fall had a lot of dramatic two counts (on the usual Guerrero spots.) Atlantis teased a moonsault, UG stopped him and pulled him off for the Guerrero Special, Atlantis kicked out at two, UG ran into the Atlantida and dropped to his knees to submit Guerrero. Ultimo Guerrero was revealed as Jose Gutierrez Hernandez, 42 years old, 26 years a wrestler.

Results post in case you’ve spend the last 24 hours in a cave. Or so people can find this post later for whatever reason. I was there, it was a lot of fun and very loud – in ways 180 degrees different from last year – and would recommend you purchasing a time machine to buy a ticket and attend yourself. Barring that, there’s video links for all the matches (which will find their way to download links and safe for YouTube versions later on.)

I feel really good about the preview post I wrote: main event turned on the Guerrero Special kickout (and the insane crowd carried what was really close to a normal Ultimo Guerrero match into something far more unique) and the results of the undecard were all about putting over new people: Cavernario, Thunder, the kids in opener, and even Zeuxis. I had that one wrong; I would’ve rooted for her if I thought she had any sort of a chance, and she ended up being responsible for beating all the tecnicas except for Estrellita (who’s the person she’s actually feuding with now, how strange.) There was no angle at all in the tag team title match, just the old guys getting one over on Ingobernables.

My impression, from being there last year and this year in just about the same seats, was the building was definitely more full this year. This year had few open seats; the only areas which weren’t being used were those where the stage or a light blocked the view (and even then, there were people sitting where it seemed to me that they had to be partially obstructed.) There also seemed to be about a 100 people just standing behind the highest level of seats. CMLL wasn’t selling standing room, but the balcony sections were so packed that people rather leaned on the rail. I don’t have a ticket/gate number, but it seemed to me like they sold 100% of the tickets they could sell.

Terra broadcast seemed to have gone off with a hitch – except for cutting away after the musical perfocmance, but that whole thing (putting Sonora Dinamita on with little notice so early before the show time AND cutting away to tape the intros afterwards) did not seem thought on well. At least the part we cared about worked fine.

Next week’s lineup:

CMLL (FRI) 09/26/2014 Arena México
1) Esfinge & Oro Jr. vs Canelo Casas & Nitro
2) Dragon Lee, Fuego, Tritón vs Boby Zavala, Okumura, Virus
3) La Sombra, Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr. vs Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Vangellys
4) Volador Jr. vs Shocker, Mephisto, Felino, Misterioso Jr., Tiger, La Máscara,Guerrero Maya Jr. [Copa Jr., Copa Jr. VIP, semifinal]
5) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Valiente vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

CMLL’s burned thru their annual tournaments already: Leyenda de Plata, Leyenda de Oro, Reyes del Aires, Universal were already run. Super Halcon Jr. already won a very Tuesday-ish Copa Junior early this year, but they’ve decided to slap VIP on it and run it again for whatever reason. On paper, Volador, Shocker and Mascara seem to have chances at winning, but Shocker and Mascara really shouldn’t get a tournament invented just so they can win one and Volador has issues with Thunder (don’t we all) so maybe the winner is coming from another block.

No one knows what the deal is with Sombra, or at least no one’s telling.

2014 watch later catchup, part 5

In this one (the last for this stretch)

Alberto Dos Rios vs Charles Lucero (04-06, ACM)
Tony Rivera vs Black Terry, hair vs hair (04-06, IWRG)
Águila Egipcia & Black Tiger vs Ares & King Jaguar (02-24, PUEBLA)
Stuka Jr. vs Virus in a lightning match (03/24, PUEBLA)

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Como Estaz 2×7: Ultimo Guerrero vs Atlantis

Hey, there was an important mask match tonight. We are joined by Alfredo from LuchaMania Monterrey to recap the show for about an hour and a half.

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The video if the complete show can be found on DailyMotion.

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2014 watch later catchup, part 4

In this one:

Súper Nova vs Eterno [NWA OLD LH] (03-02, IWRG)
Silver Star vs Charles Lucero for the WWA World Middleweight Championship (ACM, 03/02)
Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Terrible for the CMLL World Trios Championship (Puebla, 03/03)
Black Terry, Dragón Celestial, Emperador Azteca, Fulgor, Imposible, Sky Ángel vs Aztlán, Cheyene Destino, Jorge Kebrada, Kanon, Skayde, Vortize [Copa High Power]: (IWRG, 03/12)

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final Anniversary preview notes, Hijo del Santo notes, Skyman

Today’s CMLL show will start at 7pm for a Sonora Dinamita performance. Unsure if that means the feed will now start as soon as that time; the wrestling will probably still not start until 8:30pm.

CMLL also sent out a listing of the biggest anniversary matches of the last 81 years. You can tell it’s a CMLL article because Black Warrior and Mistico is omitted and Blue Panther versus Villano V made it.

Atlantis says he’s nervous going into today’s match.

R de Rudo looks back at Atlantis’ five biggest wins. Sabor del Ring has five reasons why Atlantis will win. (They did the UG one earlier.)

CMLL took Volador of Tuesday’s Guadalajara show. Atlantis shifts over there from the Arena Mexico semimain, where Marco takes his place.

Cronicas and Leyendas looks back at Blue Panther and Atlantis’ feud and partnership. It looked like they would be the two who would one day have a big mask match at one point.

Los Colisenos declared the show a success earlier this week. My setup does not allow me to easily check the Ticketmaster map of available seats today, but others have said it looks more full now. This might turn out a show where the scalpers are more exposed than the promotion itself; there’s likely to be quite a bit difference between the number of tickets sold by CMLL and the number of people actually in the building.

There was confusion about who was in the opener last week becuase of an unclear line in a CMLL preview; a more recent one does list Dragon Lee (and not Black Panther) in the opener. Black Panther is not bad, but Dragon Lee is the one you want to see on this show. Enjoyed the line in that preview about women being an important part of lucha libre since 1935, somewhat sidestepping the part that people in charge let them be banned from wrestling in Mexico City for about 30 of those years.

ESPN Deportes has an interview with Skyman, of the insane missed dive from Arena San Juan Pantitlan a couple of days ago. He’s light on specifics, saying only that he’ll be out for a while but will return. Skyman says it was entirely his own idea and has clearly been told by many people that it was not a smart idea

Hijo del Santo was supposed to have a retirement match this month, but that hasn’t happened. Instead, the new dream plan is a series of retirement shows (including in Los Angeles) ending with a final mask vs mask match versus Hijo del Solitario in Mexico City. No dates even hinted at for any of this. The obvious hold up is finding promoters who can and will put those shows on, but Hijo del Santo is also waiting for his son to be ready to wrestle. He’s still training, and would be a bick part of any retirement tour.

WWE will start airing on Fox Sports Mexico starting with Raw on October 6th. It’s the beginning of a five year deal which will also include SmackDown, Main Event, NXT, Vintage Collection and other shows. This is for the cable rights. It’s TVC Deportes who are losing this shows, not Televisa (but all we’ve talked to about this seem doubtful confident Raw will be on over the air TV much longer.) CMLL is currently airing it’s Friday night matches on Fox Sport 2; it’s unclear if they’ll be bumped, but they’ve moved around a lot and this will not help their situation. There’s some domino action from this move: RAW was the highest rated wrestling show on TVC Deportes, who continue to lose programming since being pulled off a large cable/satellite in a carriage fee dispute. (That means they’re likely to give Puebla better spots, but may not be as likely to be sticking around as an entity.) It’s also been said that ESPN in Mexico may be interested in get their own wrestling program to counter.

The end of an article about the Wagner show in Torreon this past weekend includes a strange Electroshock quote where he says this was his last three falls in Torreon and probably his final match. No one’s quite sure what there is to this.

Rey Hechicero vs Caifan is now on YouTube. Well worth checking out. I believe the plan was for Dark Angel vs Princesa Sugehit from that show also to be put on the internet. 

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update for Monday and for Wednesday, this week’s Poster-Mania and a new editon of the LuchaWorld podcast. Vandall won, I better make sure that gets into the database.

Segunda Caida reviews one two more Rush/Negro Casas trios, Blue Panther vs Hijo del Santo and really liked Timmy Thatcher vs Blue Demon Jr.

Ohtani’s Jacket evaluates Hijo del Santo’s candiancy as the best of all time.

CMLL has Diamante Azul #1 on their top ten list and Hechicero as #10.

Money was raised for Fray Tormenta

Cassandro and friends were very over in Santa Fe.

Rafael el Maya has reached 43 years in lucha libre.

Myzteziz and La Parka were at the opening of a guitar art exhibit.

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