Lucha Azteca7 Elite: 2016-10-08
taped 2016-10-07 @ Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estado de México Cloud Drive
1) El Bandido, Golden Magic, Último Ninja vs Argos, Hijo De Dos Caras, Karonte Jr.
2) León Dorado Jr. & Mr. Leo vs Eterno & Fresero Jr.
3) Black Tauro (ex-AAA), Cibernético, Sharlie Rockstar vs Decnnis, Mr. Águila, Zumbido
4) Carístico & Xtreme Tiger vs LA Park & Rey Escorpión
Noches de Coliseo: 2016-10-09
taped 2016-10-02 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey Cloud Drive
1) Galactar vs Deltain a super libre match
2) Heddi Karaoui & Hijo de LA Park vs Caifan & Silencio
3) Dos Caras Sr., Hijo De Dos Caras, Mil Máscaras vs Canek, Tinieblas Jr., Tinieblas Sr.
IWRG Zona XXI: 2016-10-10
taped 2016-10-09 @ Arena Naucalpan Cloud Drive
1) Demetrio El Gladiador & Hip Hop Man vs Black Dragón & Dragón Fly and Demonio Infernal & Skanda
2) Black Terry, Bobby Lee Jr., Pantera vs El Hijo del Diablo, Eterno, Tyson La Bestia
3) Negro Navarro, Relámpago, Trauma I vs Devil Rocker (San Luis Potosí), Machine Rocker (San Luis Potosí), Soul Rocker (San Luis Potosí)
4) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Silver King, Trauma II vs Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible, Mr. Electro
IWRG (SUN) 10/09/2016Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), The Gladiatores]
1) Sombra Metálica b Máscara De Ángel
2) Demonio Infernal & Skanda b Demetrio El Gladiador & Hip Hop Man and Black Dragón & Dragón Fly
3) El Hijo del Diablo, Eterno, Tyson La Bestia b Black Terry, Bobby Lee Jr., Pantera Eterno is back after being banished for about three months (working opposition show.) Terry/Diablo appears planned on 10/23.
4) Devil Rocker (San Luis Potosí), Machine Rocker (San Luis Potosí), Soul Rocker (San Luis Potosí) DQ Negro Navarro, Relámpago, Trauma I Devil Rocker threw his mask to Negro Navarro to draw the DQ.
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Silver King, Trauma II b Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible, Mr. Electro Team Trauma took 1/3. Trauma II wants a title match with Imposible.
Imposible/Trauma II sounds like a fun idea. No IWRG Sunday with Boom running. No sign of a Wednesday show either.
CMLL has put Rey Cometa in the Universal tournament, replacing Barbaro Cavernario. In other words, they remembered the title change that happened in June. It’s embarrassing they forgot.
CMLL also apparently thought Angel de Oro would be back from Ring of Honor by Sunday’s show. He won’t be, and so Diamante Azul is now in the main event and Johnny Idol replaces him in the semimain. Fantasy replaces Astral on Saturday (Astral is still on Sunday, so it must be a date conflict and not an injury.)
Today’s Puebla show continues the Mascara Dorada awkward farewell tour, where we’re guessing when he’s leaving and CMLL’s doing their best not to acknowledge he is leaving. This could be his final match in Arena Puebla, or he could show up three more times before leaving, it’s all a little bit of a mystery. Dorada teams with Mistico and Volador against Ephesto, Felino and Mephisto. It’s 2/3rds of the world trios champions versus 2/3rds of the national trios champions.
The other member of the world trios champions, Valiente, teams with Maximo & Johnny Idol against Kraneo, Ripper and Sam Adonis. Adonis fouled Idol last week, which is all we’ve got for stories continuing on this show. Stigma & Skandalo continue their feud from the beginning of time (or at least the last couple years), teaming with Stuka, Titan, Misterioso and Sagrado. The women have a rare non-opener 2v2 match, with Estrellita & Lluvia facing Amapola & Tiffany. The first two matches are also 2v2 (CMLL mostly refusing to book 4v4), with the opener of Arkalis & Paris vs Malayo & Fuerza Chicana having a better chance of being watchable than Millenium & Tigre Rojo vs King Jaguar & Policeman.
The show airs at 9pm CT on CMLL & YouTube. This seems like a fairly skippable show, which some of the matches might still be good.
This week’s Estrellas del Ring team hypes the possibility of the Caristico & Mistico team. Maybe they can actually challenge for the tag titles after the Universal tournament is done.
This week’s MMM Show mentions that – at the LU taping – this past week’s Dial of Doom actually stopped on Dr. Wagner Jr., with a stage hand running/sliding over to push it to Prince Puma (as intended.) The crowd cracked up and Dario threatened to fire the stage hand. I didn’t catch it, but other people noted the wheel spin looked like it was done when fans weren’t there, and that’s probably why – they reshot it.
CMLL (SAT) 10/08/2016Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Robin & Templario b Rocky Casas & Yago Robin replaced Flyer. First match for the rudos in six months.
2) La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi b Dalys, La Seductora, Metálica Tecnicas took 1/3. Jarochita replaced Estrellita on Wednesday (and maybe is a tecnica now?). She beat Seductora with a escalera.
3) Blue Panther, Fuego, Titán b Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado Tecnicos took 1/3. Panther’s reached 38 years of wrestling.
4) Mr. Niebla, Olímpico, Rey Bucanero b Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. Rudos took 2/3
5) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Mistico b Ephesto, Luciferno, Shocker Tecnicos took 2/3.
A show which took place.
KDR (SAT) 10/08/2016Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)]
1) Rey Celestial b Estrella De Oro
2) Arceus, Lunatick Extreme, Lunatik Fly DQ Mike, Rayo Star, Teelo Arceus’ mask came off. Referee originally gave the wins into the Turtles.
3) Keira b Lilith Dark, La Magnifica
4) Ciclón Black DQ Criss Boy
5) Fly Warrior NC Black Terry Bonus match, but Black Terry was hurt after taking a Fly Warrior dive and colliding head first into a chair. Match was stopped with Fly Warrior apologizing to the fans. Terry was said to be stable after, but needed three stitches.
6) Corsario Negro, Drako, Látigo b Kilvan, Shadow, Yoruba Latigo replaced Toro Negro Junior. Demus & Akuma attacked La Resistencia after the match. Turned into a three way fight.
7) Extreme Tiger & Mr. Leo b Freelance & Rey Horuz
Black Terry was wrestling tonight in Naucalpan, so he must be OK.
Loaded show, but attendance was less than usual for the CaraLucha show. (They did seem to have sponsors, so maybe they didn’t get killed.) Weirdly, Toro Negro Jr. skipped out on his home arena show to be an extra guy on the Arena Neza show.
In the Arena Neza main event, Texano beat Pagano & Dr. Wagner by DQ when Monster & Murder Clown ran in. (Full results box.)
CMLL (SUN) 10/09/2016Arena México [CMLL]
1) Astral & Eléctrico b Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Violencia Pequeno Violencia replaced Pierrothito. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Robin Rudos took 1/3.
3) Amapola, La Comandante, Tiffany b La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Silueta Rudas took 2/3.
4) Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr., Titán b Bobby Z, Hechicero, Sam Adonis tecnicos took 2/3
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy b Shocker, Terrible, Vangellys Tecnicos took 2/3. Marco Corleone avoided a Shocker foul and pinned him.
Another show! CMLL’s recap teases Marco/Shocker as a hair match, but (spoiler) they’re not even matched up next week.
CMLL hasn’t fixed the Cavernario participation. Best theory I heard (which I’m stealing from Rob.) was CMLL’s randomly decided Reyes del Aire is a championship now. That would mean someone is getting bumped. It would still be very dumb, and dumber in a different way for CMLL not to bother to explain the obvious thing that needs to be explained, but fitting in with CMLL’s usual poor communication.
Carisitco was back wrestling today, so his injury on Friday must’ve not be too severe.
The updated poster for the Elite 11/04 Toluca show has a surprise luchador replacing Strong Man. Guess it could still be Strong Man, but probably not. Elite also hinted this week’s show would be back in Mexico City.
Lucha Underground’s NYCC Panel had a lot of stuff you may have previously heard/read in other interviews. The plan of taping for five months/touring for seven months brought up previously popped up here too, that sort of thing. I get frustrated reading about these big plans. I do understand these are things they are actually being worked on, that just talking about these plans will help them achieve them, and that the whole point of these sort of panels are talk about the plans for the future. (Vampiro and his vague posts of big news on Facebook is even worse.) But, as someone who follows this every day, it’s increasingly hard to take these ideas for the future seriously when they rarely appear as more than ideas for the future. Part of the job is talk about these plans, and people are going to keep asking, but it’s getting to the point where I’d rather never hear about LU’s plans for touring (to pick one) again – I just want to heard about if/when they finally have something set. They’re kind of the “boy who cried Netflix deal” at this point.
10/07 REINA?: Aoi Kizuki & Sumrise Natus beat Heidi Katrina & Reyna Isis.
CMLL (SAT) 10/15/2016Arena Coliseo
1) Astral & Último Dragóncito vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Fuego, Leono, Oro Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Virus
3) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Sanely vs Dalys, La Seductora, Zeuxis
4) Blue Panther, Esfinge, Johnny Idol vs Bobby Z, Felino, Sam Adonis
5) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Valiente vs La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Niebla Roja
A show! Maybe a storyline with Maximo in the main event. Idol & Adonis have gone to being forgotten to getting 3 matches a week. CMLL is weird.
CMLL (SUN) 10/16/2016Arena México
1) Bengala & Sensei vs El Coyote & Grako
2) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Starman vs El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo
3) Esfinge, Hombre Bala Jr., Stigma vs Bobby Z, Sagrado, Virus
4) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Rey Cometa vs Kráneo, Sam Adonis, Vangellys
5) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Marco Corleone vs La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
Caristico working a rare Sunday show. He’s usually booked somewhere else – and it sounds like he may already be booked in Naucalpan for Lucha Libre Boom, somehow the only guy who is double booked like that. The Shocker/Marco feud is randomly dropped.
CMLL (SUN) 10/16/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Micro vs Destello & Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Black Sugar & Capitán Cobra vs Gitano & Mr. Apolo
3) Frezzer vs Mágico
4) El Yaqui & Javier Cruz Jr. vs Évola & Exterminador
5) Flash II, Kempo Dragón, Star Black vs Joker, Príncipe Kisho, Terremoto King Jr.
Main event brings back the Sinaloa luchadors, on both sides of the match. Terremoto King hasn’t been around in a year. Semimain is billed as a rematch, tercera is an odd tecnico/tecnico match.
Heard the second and the semimain were great! Haven’t gotten to see it yet. I did manage to record most of the show remotely, but the feed went out at the end of the semimain and I didn’t get it working again until during the main event.
They did the hair match challenges after the semimain, and even Dave Meltzer thinks they’re going to do it. I’m skeptical: Volador would win the hair match and they would’ve saved his big win for that if it was coming any time soon. The main event, continuing a tease of a Dragon Lee & Mistico vs Rush & La Mascara feud from the Anniversary show, seems like the direction in the short term.
ELITE (FRI) 10/07/2016 Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Plantilla Deportiva]
1) Muñeca De Plata & Rossy Moreno b Keira & Lady Maravilla
2) León Dorado Jr. & Mr. Leo b Eterno & Fresero Jr. Mr. Leo & Leon Dorado Jr. are “Los Lion Brothers 4:20”. Leon Dorado Jr. is either Metaleon with a new name or someone joining the group, it’s not clear.
3) Herodes Jr. & Samoano b Ciclón Ramírez Jr. & Zumbi
4) Argos, Hijo De Dos Caras, Karonte Jr. b El Bandido, Golden Magic, Último Ninja
5) Decnnis, Mr. Águila, Zumbido DQ Black Tauro (ex-AAA), Cibernético, Sharlie Rockstar Cibernetico fouled Zumbido
6) LA Park & Rey Escorpión b Carístico & Xtreme Tiger Caristico suffered a leg injury.
There’s no update on how the seriousness of Caristico’s injury. He usually mentions he’s OK on Twitter after a scare and has not yet. They don’t seem to be doing any angles on these shows.
CMLL’s show today in Arena Coliseo has Atlantis, Mistico and Maximo against Shocker, Ephesto and Luciferno. Last week was a title match, so we’re back to square one on a feud and many people in the match have a title. The semimain also has champions, with Stuka Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., and Rye Comet taking on Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, and Olimpico. The tercera is Blue Panther, Titan, and Fuego against Disturbio, Misterioso and Sagrado, and those three matches might air on a Lucha Libre Retro show if the show itself ever starts airing. Of note, CMLL’s tonight doing a little bit of what people have begging them to do on Tuesdays – actually using some of the new people they’ve introduced to give new matches. Metalica and Jarochita are part of the women’s match. The opener is Robin & Templario against Rocky Casas & Yago.
A Televisa show, host by Denise Maerker, did a story this morning on the jail sentence of La Parka. The only problem is, it was a low level wrestler claiming to be La Parka, and not the long time AAA guy or LA Park. SuperLucha explains the whole thing. LA Park was very upset, since the guy was essentially pretending to be him.
CMLL (FRI) 10/14/2016Arena México
1) Astral & Eléctrico vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
3) Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., Máscara Dorada vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
4) Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 vs Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr.
5) Mistico vs Último Guerrero, Negro Casas, Máximo Sexy, Valiente, Cavernario, Mephisto, Shocker [CMLL Universal, semifinal]
Cavernario isn’t a champion. He lost his title to Rey Cometa in June. CMLL didn’t know this, which illustrates everything wrong with how they handle championships in this promotion. (Unless there was a plan to have Cavernario win last night and they changed their mind late.) They could leave Cavernario in the tournament and 90% of the people wouldn’t notice. Assuming everything stays the same, this is probably a rudo block. Ultimo Guerrero, Negro Casas, Mephisto all have good shots.
This would lave Dragon Lee, Dragon Rojo, La Máscara, Volador Jr., Rey Bucanero, Atlantis, Ephesto, and Luciferno as the other block on 10/21. Which means a tecnico, Dragon Lee, Volador or Atlantis. (Mistico vs La Mascara would be the one possible main event the other way.)
10/28, the final, is also a Dia del Muertos show. The winner gets the Universal championship, the loser will get dragged to hell. It might be an iPPV.
I can’t believe they brought the Dinamtias back. They were absolutely awful. CMLL could believe they were a draw on 09/16, but it’s hard to believe they would be so again after the reaction to the match. The opponents are interesting: I have no idea what Stuka is going to do there, but Marco in that match amusing. Long ago, Marco’s first feud with the promotion was against Universo 2000. There’s an infamous spot where Universo 2000 clumsily & dangerously hit Marco in the back of the head with a chair, causing him to bleed badly. There were very bad feelings after that, though it’s more than a decade ago now.
That match probably won’t be any good and the Universal tournament is never any good. The tercera should be good, but you should skip this show.
Full card for CaraLucha’s show next week. Main event is really the eye catching match, but the semimain makes me realize Rey Escorpion versus Fenix really needs to happen now that they’re both available.
The biggest match on this week’s show is the same match as last week. Cavernario and Volador have another singles match, this time for Volador’s NWA Historic Welterweight Championship after Cavernario got the win over Volador in the Reyes del Aire show. Both men did just about everything they can do last week, so the challenge will be find something else to do this week. (It should still be pretty good if they don’t, but it’s going tough to be unique.) Cavernario winning would mess up the Universal math, but there’s no sign of that happening any time soon and it may not be a concern at this point. Cavernario winning would also be an indication of how serious CMLL takes this feud; if Cavernario wins singles matches two straight weeks, they may actually be doing the teased hair match. (If he doesn’t, it just goes into the pile of feuds they can bring back some rainy day.)
Cavernario told ESTO he was surprised to make the Reyes del Aire final and was nervous going in. He also talked about working on his accounting degree: he plans on being a luchador for a long time, but wants a backup in case he ever can’t do it. He likes studying like he likes lucha.
There’s ongoing story line on the show, so the main event and second most hypest match is the Munoz brothers teaming up in the main event. Dragon Lee, Mistico and Rush take on Mephisto, Euforia, Ultimo Guerrero. The booking of that family has been inconsistent of late, even for CMLL. Dragon Lee and Rush were supposed to be on opposite sides after the Anniversary show, and they haven’t done anything with it for a month. Maybe it’ll make more sense after this match.
The rest of the show are matches, though generally OK to good looking matches. Atlantis, Valiente and Mascara Dorada face Dragon Rojo, Polvora and Felino (though CMLL’s own preview still lists Super Crazy.) The women’s match is Marcela, Lluvia and Princesa Sugehit against Dalys, Tiffany, and Amapola. Puma & Tiger continue to make a strange home in the segundas, teaming with Okumura against Hombre Bala Jr., Star Jr. and Soberano Junior. Ultimo Dragon & Fantasy vs Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Nitro is the opener.
CMLL announced the dates for the Dia del Muertos shows. They seemed successful last year, and they’re going to double the amount of dates to see if it holds up. There will be themed shows on 10/25 (Tuesday), 10/28 (Friday), 10/30 (Sunday), and 11/01 (Tuesday.) The Friday show was an iPPV last year. It’d make sense for it to be again, but there’s not as strong a reason to buy it on Friday if the same concept is airing on two Tuesdays for free.
Elite also tapes today, with a main event of Caristico & Xtreme Tiger versus LA Park & Rey Escorpion taking place in Cuautitlan. The post-CMLL Elite TV has not been strong: the match quality has dropped with the lack of depth, and they’re really lacking any destination. The Liga Elite matches provided both good matches and at least a theoretical end point. It’s just matches to have matches, with even less of a focus on a direction than CMLL, and the matches have to be much better than they’ve been to make that work. Whoever’s putting the cards together doesn’t seem to have a great grasp on what combinations make for good matches, or lacks the available wrestlers to put together good combinations. The semimain is a good example of it: Black Tauro (ex-Taurus AAA) debuts and is really great against high flyers, but he’s facing Guapos Zumbido & Decnnis and Mr. Aguila. Aguila of a decade or more ago would be a great opponent for Taurus. The Aguilas of today are guys like Golden Magic, el Bandido and Ultimo Ninja, but they’re facing the problematic trio of Argos, Karonte Jr. and Hijo de Dos Caras. That main event is the best set up match, but also just happens to be that way because those are the top stars who are around this week.
La Parka and Hijo del Tirantes are very critical of Jack Evans’s critical comments of AAA. They specifically seem upset about Jack calling Parka a terrible wrestler (which Jack did somehow turn into a compliment about Parka still being way over despite it and how he had to learn from that.) Jack may have gotten himself into some serious trouble this time. There are people frustrated in post-Konnan AAA, but there’s also plenty who are happy with AAA and/or believe you should never be publicly critical of the company you work for.
This is a less than inspiring choice for a long term diehard fan – Angel de Oro isn’t too popular, and is one of the guys most likely to have the same exact match every time out – but he did get over in his NJPW tour because it was all new to the fans. It’s also possible this was a last minute decision and they didn’t have a wide group of people to choose from: ROH needed to replace the mysterious Matt Sydal, and they may have not even considered a CMLL guy before Dragon Lee got over this past week. And it’s not like ROH is really marketing much towards CMLL fans in the first place – this is just scans as “random luchador!” for more people going to this show. Still, I’d probably go to the Chicago Ridge show if this was someone cool, and this is is not someone who’s going to get me to go. I could still watch Tanaka & Komatsu and ask them why they’re so scared of the Panthers that they left Mexico (not the real story).
ELITE (FRI) 11/04/2016Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México
1) ? & Lady Maravilla vs ?? & Muñeca De Plata
2) Ciclón Ramírez Jr., Hijo del Pantera, Jinzo vs Eterno, Fresero Jr., Imposible
3) Octagón & Xtreme Tiger vs Flamita & Fuerza Guerrera
4) Rey Escorpión vs LA Park [Liga Elite]
5) Blue Demon Jr. & Bobby Lashley vs Silver King & Strong Man
6) Carístico vs Cibernético [Liga Elite]
This is a month away, light years into the future for Elite, but tickets are already on sale so the lineup is as well. I say this every single time: Toluca is a great crowd for TV tapings. They’re getting a bizarre show. Caristico/Cibernetico is the biggest match Elite has to offer, and they’re in the main event. Bobby Lashley, last reported by Elite as unable to return to Mexico, is able to return to Mexico – and he’s facing Strong Man! I wasn’t even sure if Strong Man was still wrestling (he doesn’t turn up in results since 2014, hasn’t been in CMLL since 2011), but he was just featured in the Lucha Mexico documentary and I’d guess the connection is Shocker.
Flamita & Octagon on opposite sides of a match is interesting. I’m sure the idea is Octagon & Fuerza and Tiger & Flamita mostly work against each other, but I have some doubt that one is going to happen and will until it does.
What happened: CMLL honored legends by putting them in the ring. Many should’ve passed on that honor. Matt Taven debuted and cheated to beat Rush. Rey Escorpión had his last match as an Ingobernable, though no one knew it at the time.
What was good: The main event was the worst match on a major show in any promotion in the world this year.
I liked the two current day CMLL matches, and the third match was the most salvageable of the legend matches.
Where can I watch it: I watched it on RockerGamer’s channel. I think.(more…)
AAA starts to air Heroes Inmortales this week, though we won’t know whihc matches until they post the preview. 7 matches is usually one more match than they air over two weeks, which is now a bit concerning to a person who may have committed to writing about this show for another outlet. Maybe keep an eye on the YouTube channel.
CMLL on Tuesday is a good test for Diamante Azul. If you can’t have a good match with Rush, you may be beyond hope.
What happened: I finally got back to recapping after a break. Elite taped their first show outside of Arena Mexico, moving to Arena Naucalpan for what would be a two week stint. This is their first TV show without CMLL, which is not acknowledged during the show. The show generally feels like they’re just putting out a card to fill out TV time, and haven’t yet figured out how the show is going to work with most of the Liga Elite guys no longer available. (Even near a month later, it’s unclear if they’re figured it out.) This show is really not notable outside of it being the start of the post-CMLL era; nothing really happens besides Rey Escorpion showing up at the end and Octagon & Fuerza having another singles match.
What was good: Nothing much. There were good spots, but the action never held up thru a whole match.
Where can I watch it: The YouTube Liga Elite channel.(more…)