AAA in Xalapa, CMLL weekend results

AAA TV (SAT) 12/02/2017 Arena Xalapa, Xalapa, Veracruz [AAA]
1) Eslabón Perdido, Poseidón, Rey Infierno ?? Kid Lobo, Samuray, Vengador Jr.
local/dark match
2) Ángel Mortal Jr., Chicano, Pardux b Angelikal, Fetiche, Hijo Del Vikingo
Fetiche (who was a rudo up to this point anyway) betrayed his tecnicos teammates, with Mr. Aguila and Khan del Mal in attacking them. It appears the Perros del Mal are taking him on, with the rudo team possibly joining as well.
3) Argenis, Estrella Divina, Faby Apache, Lady Shani b Australian Suicide, Goya Kong, Hahastary, Mamba
Moved down a spot. Hahastary replaced Ayako Hamada (in Japan), Goya Kong was the mystery (?) women on their side, and Argenis replaced Lanzeloth. Tecnicos took the win despite Faby and Shani having problems. Faby was antagonistic to Shani with their title match coming up (at some point.)
4) Big Mami b Villano III Jr.Bengala
scheduled as a Villano 3 Jr. & La Hiedra vs Big Mami & Nino Hamburugesa, but Nino Hamburugesa was missing (!?!) and Bengala changed it (???) to a three way. Villano III & Bengala fought by themslves and Big Mami got the Splash win.
5) Histeria & Psicosis b Dave The Clown & La Parka
Dave & Parka did not get along
6) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown © b Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria [AAA TAG]
2nd defense, 1st on TV. Dave & Parka both got involved. Clowns won but were attacked and unmasked by the Vipers, who declared themselves the next challengers.
7) Dr. Wagner Jr., Hijo del Fantasma, Psycho Clown DQ Hernandez, Rey Escorpión, Texano Jr.
Rudos were DQed (attacking Tirantes, excessive violence), and took out security before Vampiro got them to stop.

Not exactly sure when this will air. It’s the next taping after the current Juarez one finishes next week, but they have a break coming up soon. Normal order has it 12/16 and 12/23, but they might go into the usual 3 weeks best of programming on 12/16 (& 12/23 & 12/30) instead.

Faby going ruda is probably for the best for the match up with Shani, though it’s going to be hard to get a Mexico City crowd to root against her.

AAA’s been careful about not adding anyone new to Los Perros del Mal after Perro passed away, likely feeling there’d be some backlash to doing that. Some of the advantage to bringing back an Ayako Hamada or Mr. Aguila is adding to that group with already endorsed members. They could always have Kahn create an offshoot group, so the new guys are adjacent to but not actually part of Perros del Mal. If they actually make them part of the group, I wonder if there will be some backlash, or if people have moved or if all of this so under the radar that no one will really care.

AAA also knew for weeks that Ayako was in Japan and wouldn’t be making this show, but didn’t feel the need to announce a change that wouldn’t have hurt ticket sales at all.

CMLL (SAT) 12/02/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Sangre Imperial & Sensei b Apocalipsis & El Coyote
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Fiero, Magnus, Robin b Camorra, Inquisidor, Maquiavelo
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Hijo del Signo, Metálico, Nitro b Oro Jr., Star Jr., Starman
Rudos took 1/3, using the ropes to win. Starman & Signo continued to feud.
4) Eléctrico © b Pequeño Nitro [MEX LIGHT]
Fourth defense. Big Nitro and Robin were seconds, and Nitro interfered enough that he was thrown out of the math. Electrico took 2/3 to win.
5) Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr., Titán b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. DQ Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Mephisto faked a foul from Volador to draw the DQ.

No title change is no big surprise. Main event is actually going somewhere. Might not be the only one.

CMLL (SUN) 12/03/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Magia Blanca & Retro b Cholo & Yago
Yago replaced Coyote. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Fiero, Pegasso, Starman DQ Cancerbero, Raziel, Templario
Starman won fall 1 over Raziel, Starman was DQed for unmasking Raziel in the second, rudos were DQed for unmasking Fiero. More unmasking followed between the six luchadors who had been feuding.
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther
Straight falls, with Johnny Idol turning on his team again.
4) Niebla Roja, Titán, Valiente b Okumura, Pólvora, Shocker
Shocker replaced Dragon Rojo Jr. on Tuesday. Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
tecnicos took 1/3.

Johnny Idol is going to be turning on his teams for a while.

CMLL’s not added anyone new to the (not yet announced) 12/25 Infierno en el Ring match, it’s still those same six guys. They’ve done six man cage matches before, but with much bigger names.

The rap battle seems like it drew pretty well, and it was a good idea to move this show for a night. Arena Coliseo might have a longer future if CMLL can rent out their other arena for events.

The Crash in Ecatepec also looks like it did very well, maybe a sell out. I’ll go over those results, DTU, IWRG and NGX tomorrow.

Mexican channel Space announced they’ll be debuting a new lucha libre drama, “La Ultima Caida“. It’ll be a 10 episode series, focusing on fathers and sons in wrestling. No air date is mentioned. It’ll be taped in Mexico City and Queretaro. One of the stars is Arnulfo Reyes, who was the henchman Checo in the Blue Demon series.

AAA has this week’s TV show up.

Lucha Sorpresa has some recent lucha recommendations.

DoradaFan has highlights of 11/14 & 11/17 CMLL.

Segunda Caida reviews Solar & Super Astro vs Black Terry & Virus.


CMLL (SAT) 12/09/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Sonic vs Apocalipsis & Grako
2) Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei vs Artillero, Inquisidor, Metálico
3) Guapito & Microman vs Mije & Perico Zakarías
4) Drone, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Luciferno, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
6) Volador Jr. vs Mephisto

Don’t do the middle rope spot, Mephisto. Third time is not the charm, CMLL can’t afford a broken Volador.

Microstars are back, at the site of the one rudo win.

CMLL (SUN) 12/10/2017 Arena México
1) Astral & Magnus vs Camorra & Cholo
2) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela vs Amapola, La Comandante, Tiffany
3) Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther vs Puma, Tiger, Vangellys
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Stuka Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Sam Adonis, Último Guerrero
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Negro Casas

Look, Johnny Idol is a tecnico again. Caristico & Mistico are enemies on Friday, friends on Sunday.

CMLL (SUN) 12/10/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Eclipse Jr. vs Paymon
2) Último Ángel vs Frenético
3) El Alteño, Omar Brunetti, Star Black vs Frezzer, Maléfico, Nautilius
4) Gran Kenut & León Blanco © vs Príncipe Kisho & Terremoto King Jr. [PC TAG]
5) Tritón vs Mr. TruenoMágicoExterminadorExplosivoSádicoBlack SugarEl ChakalEl DivinoDifunto [OCCIDENTE MIDDLE, #1 Contenders]

I’ve been so successful in phasing out the Sunday Guadalajara stuff that no one noticed or cared, but it’s back because so is Triton. He’d said all along he’d be back in Mexico in December, it is December, e is back in Mexico. No idea if he’s staying, and it doesn’t look like he’s on the main CMLL roster yet.

The other thing here is there’s an Occidente Middleweight title match coming up right after I pointed out how the Occidente titles never get defended. (Joker’s the middleweight champ, he’s a rudo, so Triton is the most logical challenger.)

It’s my second favorite moment of things that are maybe not actually responses to something I’ve written but sure feel like it, right behind AAA posting a video on Twitch saying they were coming back to that service “really soon”. I’m sure they have that intention, but a lucha promotion (or other lucha service) saying “really soon” just triggers me at this point. I’ve been told “really soon” by so many people about so many things – “we’re getting TV really soon”, “we’re going to make it easy to get merchandise really soon”, “it’s all going to be on a video service to make it easy to watch really soon” – and none of it happens. The only thing that happens is some time goes by and I hear “really soon” again. I’m sure it’s never meant as a lie, but it feels like 85% of “really soon” lines turn out to be just that sort of false promise, and one that no one involved in telling seems as disappointed by telling. It’s great AAA wants to be back on Twitch, but give me a date and give me a explanation if doesn’t happen, don’t waste any one’s time with a “really soon” that can’t be trusted.

The Crash (FRI) 12/15/2017 Arena Neza
1) Sky Man & Torito Negro vs Pegazus & Tromba
2) Aramis, Astrolux, Black Boy vs Látigo, Tiago, Toxin
3) Keyra © vs Christi JaynesLacey LaneMima Shimoda [The Crash WOMEN]
4) Flamita & Séptimo Dragón vs El Bandido & Laredo Kid
5) Daga vs Trevor Lee vs Willie Mack vs Neza Kid
6) Ricochet & Sammy Guevara vs Penta Zero M & The King
7) Blue Demon Jr., Heavy Metal, M-ximo vs Bestia 666, Garza Jr., Mr. 450

This is a #hottake that no one’s going to read because it’s way down here, but The Crash is foolish if that’s the actual card order. It’s not a match quality issue. This is a statement about who the company actually sees as it’s bigger stars: the Lucha Brothers, or a part time Demon, a one time Metal and M-Ximo. The main is the Demon match because 20 years of Demon matches have talked people into believing he should be in the main event. That’s in the best interest of Blue Demon, but not in the best interest of the promotion.

There’s a lot of matches to get excited about, but everyone turning up who’s supposed to has made me a little leery of getting my hopes up (and, as always, there’s no official way to even see it.)

Mima Shimoda makes her debut, and Trevor Lee is back. He’s not particularly listed as a Impact wrestler, so I wonder if this is on his own and not the continuation of the angle they ran in Tijuana to set up a title match with Daga.

It’s one of those things I haven’t written about because it’s tough to find a way to write about nothing happening, but all the Impact stuff in Mexico – with The Crash and with AAA – seems to have gone cold . Impact is still taping stuff with other promotions. I wonder if it was just an expense issue, since everyone from these groups are still were being used on Impact’s own TV.

LDLL The Crash (MON) 12/25/2017 Salón Citlalli, Ecatepec, Estado de México
1) ? vs ??
2) Torito vs ToxinPegazus
3) Arez vs FlamitaAstroluxLátigo
4) Skayde vs Pequeño Black Shadow
5) Black Terry vs Daga
6) Rey Fénix vs Penta 0M

“The Crash” logo is big on the poster, but it looks like it might be someone else may actually be promoting this one. Whatever the deal is, it’s an interesting card.

One of my favorite things to bring up on the podcast is how Fenix and Penta have never had a singles match in Mexico. Whoever’s behind this show is finally killing that meme dead. They may kill each other dead too.

someone tape this show for Powerbomb.TV or Highspots thank you.

Niebla Roja wins (disappointing) Copa Jr., Nicho returns in TJ, Elite


The Crash (THU) 11/30/2017 Arena Aficion [@LuchaParaTodos, Cuadrilatero TV]
1) Kastigador, Toto, Vengador b Astrolux, Látigo, Torito Negro
2) Cíclope & Miedo Extremo b Pegazus & Tiago and Cobre & Príncipe Cometa
Cometa replaced Jimmy.
3) Bestia 666 & Drastik Boy b Bugambilia & Jimmy
Jimmy & Bugambilia replaced Flamita & Willie Mack.
4) Bandido (Indie) b Látigo
5) Daga & The King DRAW Black Terry & Solar I
Terry suffered a shoulder injury.
6) Penta Zero M DQ RushGarza Jr.La Máscara
Pierroth got involved, which might have caused the DQ.

Building looked about half full; I suspect DTU will end up drawing better for their own year end show in this building in a couple weeks. CuadrilateroTV says Black Terry suffered a shoulder dislocation. It was initially thought he might need an operation, but the doctor fixed it and he’ll only need some rest.

The Crash (FRI) 12/01/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [126F, San Diego Red, The Crash, @JorgeGCRR]
1) Aramis (Estado de México) & Toxin (Estado de México) b Arkángel Divino & Black Boy
Money thrown in. Aramis pinned Arkangel.
2) Christi Jaynes, Keyra, Lacey Lane b Black Danger, Jonathan, Último Maldito
crowd was strongly behind the women against the men. Money thrown in.
3) Jack Evans b Hijo de LA ParkJoey RyanLuke HawxViento
Billed as a trios, but no Famous B, so they just made it a 5 way.
4) Damián 666 & M-ximo DQ Black Taurus & Pierroth
Garza ran in and piledrived Damian for the DQ. Daga & Fenix got involved in the post match and cage match challenges followed.
5) Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson b Daga & The King
Daga replaced Flamita. Finish saw the Bucks land the Meltzer Driver on Daga, then Fenix roll up Matt Jackson. Referee counted three, but only for the Bucks.
6) La Máscara & Rush b LA Park & Nicho el Millionario and Bestia 666 & Garza Jr.
Nicho made a surprise return, taking Daga’s place and wearing his Psicosis gear. After the match, Rush said he only wanted to defend his hair against LA Park’s mask, which Park brushed off – he felt he had Rush beat in Arena Mexico and CMLL stopped the match to save him. Park teased restarting the LWO (!?!) with Psicosis.

Looked like another full house or close to it. They’re still really strong in Tijuana, where they’ve had a year of good shows (as opposed to just debuting and not being known well everywhere else.) They teased the cage match in January heavily enough that I guess that might actually be happening. Semimain was said to be very good but the finish was strange.

ELITE (FRI) 12/01/2017 Deportivo Pavón, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo]
Attendance: 650
1) Hip Hop Man & Mosca (Argentina) b Rocky Lobo & Saru
2) Villano V Jr. b Gallo Tapado Jr.León Dorado Jr.Jaque Mate Jr.
Gallo Tapado Jr., Leon Dorado Jr., Jaque Mate Jr. replaced Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Super Muneco Jr., and Super Tapatio Jr.
3) Dr. Karonte Jr., Hijo De Dos Caras, Tyson La Bestia b Alas de Oro, Dragón Dorado, Golden Magic
Dos cheated to win.
4) Bandido © DRAW Xtreme Tiger [ELITE WELTER]
3rd defense? No details on the draw. Tiger wanted a rematch.
5) Trauma I & Trauma II b Sharlie Rockstar & Zorro
No Ultima Ninja. The match was changed around to have Zorro & Sharlie teaming, only they didn’t get a long and that caused them to lose.
6) Mr. Electro b CibernéticoBlue Demon
Mr. Electro got the win after Hijo de Dos Caras and Golden Magic both were involved.

That’s a decent turnout considering the WWE show (which seemed to draw well), the CMLL show (which did not), and even AAA running in Neza (which was around half full, about what you’d expect.) The results don’t interest me much; the last four finishes being interference, team break up, draw, and rudo cheating doesn’t seem inspired. There were cameras at ringside shooting the show, but I guess I don’t know if they were Azteca or +LuchaTV or someone else. Elite didn’t appear to give any date of when this would air on TV Azteca, or say much at all.

CMLL (FRI) 12/01/2017 Arena México [ClaroOvacionesthecubsfan]
1) Shockercito & Stukita DQ Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:45. Tecncios took 2/3, the last by DQ when Mercurio tossed Shockercito over the top rope.
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Astral, Pegasso, Stigma LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:28. Rudos took 1/2, the last when Pegasso unmasked Raziel.
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Silueta b Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Seductora replaced Zeuxis early in the week. 13:44. Tecnicas took 23/.
4) Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
17:06. Rudos took 1/3.
5) Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Marco Corleone, Titán, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:09. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Niebla Roja b CarísticoNegro CasasVolador Jr.MephistoMisticoShockerDragón LeeEuforiaSansónStuka Jr.Felino [Copa Jr. VIP] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
27:45. Sanson replaced Dragon Rojo on Tuesday (injury). Cibernetico sides were tecnicos vs rudos. Eliminator order: Stuka (by Euforia), Felino (Dragon Lee), Dragon Lee (Sanson), Euforia (Caristico), Shocker & Volador were DQed, Negro Casas (Caristico), Mistico (Sanson), Sanson (Caristico), Caristico (Mephsito) and Mephsito (Niebla Roja.) Roja landed badly twice in the last couple minutes but seemed OK after the match.

There are some CMLL shows you might as well skip. This is one you definitely should skip. The undercard was largely boring when it wasn’t bad, and the main event was a sloppy disappointment that nearly completely derailed. Mephisto needs to stop going to the second rope because it’s not working out for the people he’s with. Caristico mentioned he was hurt on Twitter after this match, which is probably mean to be his explanation for his own shaky performance. CMLL’s pushing Niebla Roja stronger after the Anniversary show (which is more a reflection about how badly that was messed up), and they have him doing every Hector Garza spot they can think of.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara has a Facebook post up teasing the son of a legend debuting soon. The commenters think it’s Atlantis’ son, and they might be right.

Shows of note this weekend


  • AAA tapes in Xalapa. AAA’s matches haven’t changed as much from their lineups on the last couple tapings, and there’d will be two title matches if that holds up here. Villano III & La Hiedra, who previously lost to Big Mami & Nino Hamburguesa in a non-title match, will challenge for the mixed tag titles. Cuervo & Scoria will get a rematch for the regular tag title against Murder & Monster Clown. The main is listed as a trios, combining the three main feuds: Psycho/Escorpion, Fantasma/Texano, and Wagner/Mundo (using Hernandez as a stand in.) This is the second to last taping of the year, with another to come in two weeks.
    • FWIW, last week’s TV announced Guerra de Titanes would be in Mexico City in January, but didn’t give a location or a date. Still guessing the weekend of the 21st in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera.
  • Arena Coliseo has a very rare defense of the Mexican Lightweight title. Electrico figures to retain over Pequeno Nitro, but CMLL hasn’t made it mean anything to anyone besides those two people.
  • Jun Kasai has the first of his two matches in Mexico in Monterrey’s NGX. He teams with Joe Lider to face Pagano & Violento Jack, which is why Pagano is not part of the TV taping.
  • The finals of the Matematico nuevo valores tournament happens in Mexico City. I am not sure who’s left, but I know the Furia de Titanes Facebook page was covering this with (live?) video last round, so it might be something easy to watch.
  • The same luchadors who were in New York last night head to New Jersey today.


An interview with Zacatecas referee El Coyote.


CMLL (FRI) 12/08/2017 Arena México
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Euforia, Hechicero, Pólvora
4) Dragón Lee vs Titán [lightning]
5) Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Marco Corleone, Negro Casas, Valiente [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero vs Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

The semimain is along the lines of Relevos Incredibles we’re used to this year: listed as one, but just really Los Ingobernables versus some tecnicos. The main event is the old version we used to get, which usually set up things. This is at least a tease of Mistico/Caristico again.

Titan has never had a singles match with this Dragon Lee, but he did long ago have one with the original that was pretty fun. This should be too.

The Shockercito/Mercurio feud is interesting, because I thought they had hit their limit of apuesta matches. Maybe a third one on the Friday before Three Kings Day (01/05)?

MDA (SUN) 12/17/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Greco Baez vs Vazco Jr.
2) Black Raider vs Baby FaoxRey PanteraQuinto Elemento [Copa Rey Orion]
3) El Bandido (Indie) © vs The Tiger [WWA WELTER]
first defense
4) Makabre & Toscano vs Furor & Galactar
5) Xtreme Tiger vs Ninja Jr.
6) El Hijo Del Santo & Laredo Kid vs La Máscara & Zorro

This is a very random lineup; I think there must be another show pulling away talent from this one, because the main event just looks weird. The WWA Welter is the Todo x el Todo belt, so Santo being in the main event is probably why Bandido is defending it here.

CMLL on 2017-12-01


Recapped: 12/01/2017


Shockercito & Stukita beat Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
(13:45 [4:21, 3:41, 5:43], 2/3 DQ, below average)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus beat Astral, Pegasso, Stigma  
(12:28 [8:14, 4:14], 1/2 DQ, ok)

Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Silueta beat Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany
(13:44 [5:49, 3:55, 4:00], 2/3, below average)

Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys beat Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
(17:06 [5:19, 4:33, 7:14], 1/3, ok)

Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Marco Corleone, Titán, Valiente  
(11:09 [4:38, 0:35, 5:56], 1/3, ok)

Niebla Roja beat Carístico, Negro CasasVolador Jr.MephistoMisticoShockerDragón LeeEuforiaSansónStuka Jr.Felino for the Copa Jr. VIP
Arena México, 12/01/2017

  1. 07:39 Euforia armtrap armscissors Stuka
  2. 09:35 Dragon Lee hanging double stomp Felino
  3. 14:18 Sansón powerbomb backbraker Dragon Lee
  4. 15:00 Caristica on Euforia
  5. 16:54 DQ Shocker
  6. 16:54 DQ Volador
  7. 18:00 Carístico casita Negro Casas
  8. 19:00 Sansón torture rack Mistico
  9. 23:22 Carsitico pin Sanson
  10. 23:56 Mephisto Devil’s Wings Caristico
  11. 27:45 Niebla Roja inverted campana Mephisto

What Happened:

Mistico had one big spot in the match

Niebla Roja has two bad falls near the end of the main event. There was no Casas/Adonis interaction.

Again, no Kraneo, but Mije comes out anyway in the match Kraneo was booked for (and mostly stood there without doing anything.)

The rudos went after Pegasso’s mask often during the segunda match. Pegasso unmasked Raziel for the DQ. No one else seemed to be added to the match.

Stukita eliminated Pequeño Olímpico, then Mercurio tossed Shockercito over the top onto his partner for the DQ. It appeared this was meant to be the start of a feud.


this was good

This show needed a strong main event to save it. It got anything but that. The Copa Jr. VIP was good in segments – Dragon Lee and Euforia had a great exchange, Volador had some good moments while he was on – but was already tending to disappointing territory before the last few minutes. Niebla Roja took a bad accidental fall on his head to the floor, then an even worse one on his neck in the middle of the ring. I’m not sure if he thought (like everyone else) Mephisto was going for a Devil’s Wings and got a powerbomb, or if he was just completely out of it after the first move. I do know this is the second time this has happened this year, after Matt Taven had near about the same thing happen with him and Mephisto. The goal of this match was to give Niebla Roja a big win, and there’s definitely a story you could tell with him surviving near death to win the match, but they moves were so obviously screwed up (and they’re so bad at improving) that they had to pretend everything was fine and to go the normal finish right away. It clearly was not fine.

It wasn’t fine before that moment. Carístico wrestled as if he was spooked by the WWE being back in town, making more errors than he had since leaving that ring. He still got most of the eliminations, oddly being pushed far ahead of CMLL’s own Mistico now. An awful double elimination spot saw Volador get disqualified for superkicking Tirantes after Shocker slightly pulled him in the way. Tirantes didn’t bother selling the kick, instead ceasing on his spotlight to gesture wildly and make himself the center of attention as always. He later accidentally counted down Niebla Roja for three, which caused the crowd to be a little stronger against the técnico as he was trying to win the match. Sansón got some big wins but also seemed not completely sharp. And CMLL’s transparent ambition to turn Niebla Roja into a Garza – he debuted the stripping spot in this match – is a bit out of a turn off. I guess a borrowed personality is better than none, but Roja’s added nothing new to the concept, and came off as an uninspiring cover band in a wrestling world where two other people (Garza Jr., La Mascara) are already playing those same songs.

The semimain was the match that got shorted on time because the the rest of the matches were much longer than they needed to be. This was the run of match, made worse because the rudos aren’t good with the most athletic stuff the técnicos can do. Niebla’s backwards fall to the floor is going to hurt him a bunch one day and isn’t getting a reaction now. Monito & Zacarias were the highlight of this match, even while doing their same stuff as usual.

a few seconds of Euforia & Dragon Lee

The fourth match was a fine enough match, but my interest in the show had been pretty well killed by the undercard. It wasn’t helped by Tirantes having one of his more involved performances, but this is one which felt like the peak was everyone attacking Adonis and then it just kept going longer. Some of the better spots were after that moment, but a show that was dragging could’ve used a fast paced match at this point. This would’ve been better on a different show.

The show really dragged for the first three matches. The women’s match wasn’t any good and the crowd let them know. Tiffany is painfully slow. Maravilla did 90% of the work for a headscissors she was in. There were few good moments, and the only positive is they weren’t actually blowing moves.

The second was clearly going two falls, if only because they were going way too long to go to a third one. It was strong build to a Raziel/Pegasso feud, which probably ever lead to a singles match and may not even exist a month from now. Los Cancerberos looked like a well oiled team at parts, which is odd only in that they barely ever get to team as a trio. I was bored during this match.

The minis opener felt like they were trying, but working at a slow pace. Stukita can take over a match at times, but he didn’t have that level of performance here. Mercurio didn’t bite anyone, so that was a plus, but he’s not as quick at the multiple headscissors as Demus. This didn’t separate itself from the average minis match and it wasn’t really clear why they bothered with that DQ finish. It didn’t accomplish much, except start out the show with two in a row.

if you made it this far, here’s Monito

CMLL on 2017-11-10 

Templario’s move needs a name

Recapped: 11/22/2017


Akuma & Templario beat Magia Blanca & Robin  
(11:02 [4:43, 2:56, 3:23], 1/3, good, via

Esfinge, Oro Jr., Pegasso beat Hijo del Signo, Nitro, Raziel
(18:30 [7:23, 5:18, 5:49], 1/3, ok, via

La Jarochita, Lady Maravilla, Marcela beat Amapola, La Metálica, Reyna Isis
(12:19 [5:38, 2:27, 4:14], 1/3, via

Niebla Roja beat Stuka Jr. in a lightning match
(8:03, rolled thru plancha, ok, via

Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas beat Puma, Sam Adonis, Terrible
(12:09 [5:07, 7:02], 1/2 DQ, ok, via

Marco Corleone, Mistico, Valiente beat Cuatrero, Sansón, Último Guerrero
(9:40 [4:20, 2:03, 3:17], 2/3, ok, via

What happened: 

Metalica Stampede

Puma is a late replacement for Shocker, and not really happy about his partners beating up on Negro Casas, but it doesn’t really affect the match. Sam hits Casas with the flag pole for the second fall DQ, then uses the flag itself to choke Casas over the ropes. Niebla breaks the flagpole over Adonis’ back to break it up.


The main event was the usual B-show main event on a Friday. Really quick with each guy going thru their highlights but not ever getting into too deep. Cuatrero and Sansón fit in fine and gave Marco two new tall guys to deal with. Mistico’s reaction came thru positive on TV, a little kinder than in person. The finishing sequence was a nice visual.

Raziel finishes Esfinge

The Casas/Adonis stuff acme thru stronger in this match than the recent ones. I think they’re just getting better at figuring out how to play off each other. Adonis is selling a bit bigger and doing more comedy, Casas seems more engaged. The match itself wasn’t much, there wasn’t a lot here beyond the feud, but it felt more successful. Referee Edgar didn’t seem at all clued into the post match stuff; Adonis has to shove him a couple times to get him to take a bump, Edgar gets back up right after anyway, and tries to break up the choke bit before it gets going. Puma was a definite upgrade to this match: I can’t see Cavernario trying to do the thru the post tope on Shocker.

The lightning match was just a Niebla Roja showcase, coming off as if Stuka Jr. had been a last minute substitute for a rudo than the planned opponent all along. CMLL is weirdly pushing Niebla Roja better after he lost his mask than before it with these sorts of wins, but the match itself, also showed how few things he still does on offense. Stuka didn’t do much himself, but that was the idea.

operacion dragon

The women’s match had more action than usual, especially when the production could keep up with it. The double finish in the first fall looked better in the building, while the cameras missed Maravilla’s suplex. Likewise, Marcela’s double knee drop on Reina Isis looked brutal in person and goes without much notice here. There’s probably a really good match where Maravilla and Metálica forearm each other hard and supelxes each other all over the place that we’re never going to see in CMLL. The dive train seemed screwed up – how did they have three rudas dive before the second tecnica?

The second match was the first one I saw full live, and it seemed like a funnier than expected match. It’s the best difference from seeing a show live and seeing it on tape about two week later. This felt like guys having an ordinary match on the second viewing. Oro’s moonsault looks good, Raziel almost kills Esfinge on his finish, and the match moves faster than usual, but it doesn’t come off near as noteworthy.

Maravilla wipes out the field

I missed most of the opener live, but it came off a lot more fun than the usual opener on video. This was young guys trying stuff, and that’s kind of what I want out of openers. Templario has a lot of offense he hasn’t had a chance to get in other shows, from the looks of it. This was a Fiero-level “next hyped star” performance out of him. Using the ramp for cartwheels is an interesting idea. Magia Blanca continues to slightly improve, and I’m not just talking about ditching the bad looking top. Robin’s probably never getting a push because he’s been an opening match guy for so long but things like his bottom rope springboard con giro are starting to convince me he might have be able to do something. Akuma’s leaping into the ring Destroyer really needs the right opponent to look good.

a long leap on this dropkick

CMLL, Elite and WWE all in Mexico City tonight, Young Bucks/Fenix/Flamita in Crash

indy (THU) 11/30/2017 Arena Coliseo [@OficialRDR]
1) Chapulín Negro, Magnífico, Pilatos b ?, Barrio Latino, Zoom Driver
losing side not confirmed.
2) Alas de Oro & Súper Bólido b Águila Del America & Fuerza Negra
3) Gallero, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 Jr. b Hijo del Pantera, Hijo del Solar, Súper Astro Jr.
4) Cuatrero, Forastero (CMLL), Sansón b Ojo De Tigre, Pantera II, Súper Astro Sanson, Cuatrero y Forastero vencen a Super Astro, Pantera y Ojo de Tigre (posted by R de Rudo)
5) Blue Panther, Canek, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. b Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000, Satánico

Couldn’t tell how well this was attended, but it sounded loud when they brought out everyone to honor Ubrought out everyone to honor Universo 2000. Edit: I thought he was there, but I have may assumed wrong.

The Crash (WED) 11/29/2017 Auditorio Miguel Barragan, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí [El Sabor del Ring]
1) Keyra & Tiago vs Lacey Lane & Pegazus and Christi Jaynes & Zumbi
Lacey Lane replaced Vanilla Vargas.
2) Hijo de LA Park, Jack Evans, Máscarita Dorada vs Black Taurus, Demus, Luke Hawx
Hijo de LA Park replaced Willie Mack, Luke Hawx & Demus replaced Angel Fashion & Mike Mendoza.
3) Bestia 666, Garza Jr., Mr. 450 b Bandido (Indie), Damián 666, M-ximo
Bandido & Damian replaced Hijo de LA Park & Laredo Kid, Mr. 450 replaced Black Taurus.
4) Flamita b Rey Fénix (US) REY FENIX VS FLAMITA (posted by Juan Zárate)
lots of money thrown in.
5) La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush b Daga, LA Park, Penta Zero M LA PARK, PENTA ZERO M Y DAGA VS RUSH, PIERROTH Y LA MASCARA (posted by Juan Zárate)
usual challenges followed.

I haven’t tracked down complete results from Arena Aficion. Turnout didn’t look great; they were co-promoting with DTU and seemed to draw just about the same as DTU does.

The Crash heads to their home base in Tijuana tonight. The announced main event is Daga & LA Park vs La Mascara & Rush vs Bestia & Garza, but the big draw might be the Young Bucks returning to the promotion to take on Flamita & Rey Fenix in the semimain. That’s probably the best match happening anywhere tonight. The Crash runs their angles for their Tijuana audience. The last show had Volador appearing, which we know won’t happen tonight because he’s in Arena Mexico (and that bit hasn’t been followed up anywhere in the last month.) The show will probably be up as handhelds on YouTube over the weekend and on Konnan’s Patreon in the next week or so.

Meanwhile, in Mexico City, there’s three shows of note on the same night. WWE comes to town, Elite resurfaces, and CMLL decides to run another tournament (in response to any of this) tonight.

It’s been 378 days between Elite TV tapings. Elite’s last notable show was November 18, 2016 in Arena Naucalpan; there were some shows branded as Elite shows in the months after, but they’ve mostly ceased to exist then. Luchadors with the promotions would insist Elite was coming back soon for months, and ELITE even announced a undated Night of Champions show at one point, but it appeared the promotion had closed up shop. Word started to go around about their resurrection early November, and they make their return tonight in Mexico City’s Deportivo Pavon.

The new run of ELITE shows are billed as “Street Lucha Libre”, leaning into running smaller arenas by going with a more underground field. They’re also billing these as still being in on TV Azteca. The TV network has said nothing about the promotion coming back to their channel, and the promotion has said nothing about when these shows would air. The old Lucha Azteca page is still there, without hype for a return. I’m skeptical they’re actually going to be on TV, but we’ll have a better idea after this show. This group doesn’t seem to have much of a chance without a TV deal, but that TV deal wasn’t enough to keep them afloat last year either.

The card itself is nothing special, disappointingly normal and looking like many of the indies who focus on ex-AAA/CMLL names. The main event is Cibernetico vs Mr. Electro vs Blue Demon. Cibernetico is the ELITE Heavyweight champion, but he’s never defended it. The semimain is Sharlie Rockstar & Ultimo Ninja vs Zorro and a partner to be named; it’s a little notable Ninja is here and not the Crash, but they don’t seem to be using him in Tijuana. Bandido defends the Elite Welterweight Championship against Extreme Tiger in the best looking match on the show. There are some interesting wrestlers in the undercard, but nothing that jumps out as a match.

If this airs on TV, we’ll obviously see it then. Even if it doesn’t, there’s a good chance someone will be recording it from the seats or ringside. Elite’s already pushing next week’s show in Cuautitlan, though they’re not announcing matches.

WWE also makes it’s annual return to Arena Ciudad de Mexico tonight. AJ Styles defends his world title against Jinder Mahal in the main event. Tye Dillinger, Shinsuke Nakamura and Sin Cara challenge Baron Corbin for the WWE US Championship, which is being billed as Sin Cara trying to win the title in his home town. I think they’re doing the bit where he’s supposed to be the original Sin Cara, who is really from Mexico City. This Sin Cara freely talks about being from Ciudad Juarez and honors Juarez legend’s Cinta de Oro’s with an allusion to his mask, so it’s weird. He also never much wrestled in Mexico City: I can find four matches for him in the city itself before he went to WWE, and tonight will be his fifth match for WWE in Ciudad Mexico. Nakamura’s actually wrestled in Mexico City a lot more than this Sin Cara.

Tickets from this show is 320 to all the way up to 12,780 MXP for the closest seats. (That’s 17 to 686 USD!) The ticket website doesn’t show any full sections, but they look pretty full.  The WWE tour goes to Merida on Saturday, and Monterrey on Sunday.

CMLL has it’s traditional Friday show. CMLL might be running a tournament to get a lot of big names on the card against the WWE. Or they might be running a tournament because that’s just what they’ve done. This is the eighth Friday night show since the earthquake, and five of those have had at least part of a tournament.

Tonight’s contribution is the Copa Junior VIP, a 12 man match with top second generation wrestlers. (At least in theory; Stuka Jr. is Stuka’s brother.) There’s a lot of fun wrestlers involved, and also Shocker is there. There’s no real favorite, because it’s hard to figure this meaning anything, but the match itself could be any good. The one bit everyone’s waiting for is Sam Adonis to somehow get involved in a match he’s not part of, to get Negro Casas eliminated and continue the build to their spot.

Marco, Titan and Valiente take on Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero and Terrible in the semimain. Adonis’ match on the card teams him with Vangellys & Hechicero against two of his rivals (Blue Panther & Rey Cometa) along with Guerrero Maya Jr. Tonight’s women’s match is Dalys, Tiffany and Seductora against, Marcela, Sileuta and Lady Maravilla. The tecnica side looks solid there, but not so much the rudas.

The other news on the show might come from the segunda. Cancerbero & Raziel went after Pegasso’s mask in previous matches, and they’re match up again. We’re still waiting to find out who else will be pulled into the 12/25 Infierno en el Ring cage match, and either Astral & Stigma could be added from the tecnico side. Virus will team with his allies on the rudo side. The opener is a minis match, Stukita & Shockercito facing Mercurio & Pequeno Olimpico. The show starts at 8:30 on ClaroSports and Facebook, and it will pop up at some point on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

CMLL’s Soberano Jr., Angel de Oro & Akuma join a bunch of indie names on shows in New York and New Jersey this weekend. These shows were thought off at one time, but appear to still be on.

Lucha Memes 12/25 in Coliseo Coacalco

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Segunda Caida reviews some midcard CMLL.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-11-07 

the soliders from hell seem biased

Recapped: 11/21/2017


Artillero & Grako beat Bengala & Sonic 
(12:31 [5:31, 2:50, 4:10], 1/3, below average, 

Eléctrico, Stukita, Último Dragóncito beat Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
(12:11 [5:26, 2:57, 3:48], 2/3, ok, via

Esfinge beat Disturbio in a lightning match
(6:41, Nudo Egipico, ok, via

Dalys, La Metálica, Tiffany beat Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta
(14:40 [6:49, 3:02, 4:49], 1/3, ok, via 

Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vbeat Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
(11:15 [5:18, 1:11, 4:46], 2/3, ok, via

Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero beat Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente 
(8:21 [2:06, 1:49, 4:26], 1/3, ok, via 

What Happened:

Monito splash

Everything after match two was in the Dia de los Muertos setup, with losers being dragged away.

Terrible and Último Guerrero wrestle the main event in their evil gold outfits, as they’d been working as a solider and the king all night prior. The other guardians had been helping the rudos all night, and come into the Guerrero huddle dance between the second and third fall.


The main event felt like a minimal performance given who was involved, with everyone doing a fraction of what they normally do. The crowd was enough into this show to still be into this match and the rest. Still, there was no urgency to have a great match on today’s show even in those that a halfway decent lineup. This finish was dive run right into the submission. The only point to this match was to get the rudo win so all the guardian could come in and pose with Último Guerrero, and they did that.

Stukita with a slightly bigger splash

Seeing Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja three straight shows is not particularly interesting. It was alright, the crowd was very into Diamante Azul. Shooting Barbaro Cavernario’s fall ending dropkick thru a cloud of smoke is probably the worst Dia de la Muertos related camera choice they’ve made on these three shows. At least they got a replay.

What I learned from the women’s match is Dalys wins a lot. Tiffany looked terrible. Metálico is still working out how to give people the Air Raid Crash or Marcela has no idea how to take it. (She did have an idea to get the win one move later.)

The lightning match was a standard two dive, a bunch of pinfall attempts outing. Disturbio is being booked higher of late, but gets less chance to do the personality stuff that made him stick out earlier. He still reacts to the match, which is more than you can say for Esfinge.

Sonic mortal

The mini rudos realized you can trip Stukita after the second moonsault. This is a great leap in knowledge. The rest of the match didn’t feature any other great leaps of knowledge, was about normal for the minis in this spot, but lacked any excitement. Stukita shows dedication thru a wide variety of masks.

Artillero & Bengala literally walking thru the opener was embarrassing. Grako did nothing worth remembering. I didn’t have trouble identifying Sonic on indie shows but, in this match, his mask looks like Flyer is doing some fusion with Avern. I won’t be checking him out much if he gets stuck in more matches like this, but he seemed fine here.

lucha TV preview for weekend of November 30th, 2017

full size

You have two chances to see Rush/UG this week, but you probably already know that.

AAA starts with the Juarez taping. They split the taping directly in half with the last taping, which would make Dave/Parka the main event this week.

I still have IWRG on there despite having no idea how if I’ll get it. Eh.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-11-06 

an early match highlight!

Recapped: 11/20/17


Lestat, Rey Samuray, Tigre Rojo Jr. beat Fuerza Chicana, Perverso, Policeman
(16:06 [7:08, 5:14, 3:44], 1/3, ok, via

La Comandante, Reyna Isis, Tiffany beat La Vaquerita, Lady Maravilla, Sanely 
(13:39 [5:59, 4:08, 3:32], 2/3, n/r, via

El Malayo, Olímpico, Virus beat Drone, Johnny Idol, Stigma 
(14:56 [7:12, 2:44, 5:00], 1/3, ok, via

Negro Casas beat Volador Jr. in a lightning match
(6:19, casita, good, via

Kráneo, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Mistico, Niebla Roja, Valiente 
(10:34 [2:10, 2:38, 5:46], 1/3, ok, via 

What happened: 

Negro Casas beating Volador set up a title match the following week.


never go casita for casita with Negro Casas

The main was nothing much. A highlight of the first fall was Kraneo covering Valiente for about 10 seconds before Tirantes could be bothered to count. Kraneo inviting himself to Niebla Roja’s pose off at least made Niebla Roja interesting. Roja did more in the Sunday match and that wasn’t a lot. Mistico and Valiente weren’t much in, the rudos bumbled a bit, but this really wasn’t much by main event standards.

In CMLL, you really only can get your finisher once. Negro Casas plays by slightly different rules: you can really only escape the casita once, but he’s going to beat you with it gets another chance. The lightning match was not very long and didn’t have a lot big moves, but it was well worked while it lasted. It’s fun to see Negro Casas in this way, but it’s nothing huge.

Not much to stay about the tercera. The finish of the first fall was built around Drone’s finishing move taking way too long and Johnny Idol not being good, so points for accuracy. Drone using the over the top ramp splash was good. Malayo didn’t stick out in his big opportunity.

The opener went very long, enough for the técnicos to try to have big moments but not enough for them to actually pull them off. Perverso is now looking the best of this rudo batch. Samuray’s springboard fail was sad. The triple finish was a neat idea.

Bucanero summarizes what it feels like to watch this show

IWRG, The Crash, Universo benefit show, Dragon Lee & Titan to ROH


IWRG FILL (WED) 11/29/2017 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Dinámico, Dranzer, Pumita b Craken, Dragón, Sumed
Craken replaced (?) Crimen.
2) Celestial Boy, Fly Tiger, Voltar b Black Puma, Chicanito, Guerrero 2000
3) Adrenalina, Keshin Black, Power Bull b Dragón Orus, Haziel, Orión
4) Hijo Del Bombero, Kanon, Súper Brazo Jr. b Atomic Star, Dragón Infernal, Leroy
Dragon Infernal replaced Toxin. Atomic Star was hurt.
5) Mike, Rafy, Teelo, Toto b Eterno, Fireman, Ovett, Skanda
Toto replaced Teelo. Fireman replaced Lunatik Extreme.
6) Ángel Drago, Atomic Fly, Cadilac, Cremosito, Death Metal, Marduk, Mr. Snake, Taurino b Alas de Acero, Ángel Oriental, Aramis, Avisman, Black Dragón, Diablo Jr., Lunatik Extreme, Shadow Boy [Copa High Power]
FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Zeus (Oficial 911). Lunatik Extreme replaced Demonio Infernal. Gym Zeus won via foul but the referee might have seen it and ignored it.

The video feed I was using for IWRG seems to be dead for good. I can pay for something that’ll allow me to at least watch AYM, but I’m not sure if it’ll let me to record or if I want to be paying for IWRG. I might get bored and try to figure it out.

Good video of Flamita/Rey Fenix match from last night’s The Crash show in San Luis Potosi is up on YouTube. La Park/Daga/Penta beat Los Ingobernables in the main event. Please thank the guy who uploaded if you watch it.  I think The Crash has a more entertaining product than AAA and AAA’s TV hasn’t been good, but any TV on Televisa is better than no TV at all. Weak AAA turnouts are still out performing more loaded Crash shows.

The Crash is in Arena Aficion tonight, a DTU co-promoted show. The main event is a four way with Penta, Rush, Garza and La Mascara, with Daga & Fenix vs Black Terry & Solar.

There’s also a show in Arena Coliseo, a benefit show for Universo 2000. He suffered heart problems a few months ago, is doing better, but still needs expensive surgery and this show is to help pay for that. The main event will be his brothers Mascara 2000 & Cien Caras teaming with Satanico against Rayo de Jalisco, Canek and Blue Panther.

CMLL made another couple changes today. Johnny Idol is back on Tuesday after all to follow up on his rudo turn, replacing Negro Casas in the semimain. That puts Idol across from Valiente, who was somehow booked in Mexico and Guadalajara at the same time. Caristico’s heading to Guadalajara now and Mr. Niebla joins him, replacing Rush.

ROH announced Dragon Lee & Titan will team with Flip Gordon to challenge the Young Bucks & Adam Page for ROH six man titles on their 12/15 (Friday) PPV. That match should be pretty good. CMLL’s confirmed Dragon Lee & Titan will be on the TV taping the next day as well, which is being held on the former ECW Arena.

Lucha Memes year end show is 12/25 in Coliseo Coacalco. First match announced

They also posted a video of Gato de Ecatepec Jr., which would lead you to believe he’s coming soon.

Torreon’s Arena La Rosita is closed until March. The promoter says they don’t draw well because it’s too cold (and it’s an outdoor arena.)

CultIcon has a running diary of the CMLL bodybuilding contest. Astral won 10,000 pesos (over $500 USD) for winning Mr. CMLL.

DJ Spectro says Tijuana luchador Indio Toro has passed away.

Guatemalan luchador La Arana passed away a few days ago.

Hijo del Vikingo was the guest on Zona Ruda.

UNAM will have a Santo film festival 12/06 to 12/10.

Maxilar in Tijuana has Alberto el Patron (& Dos Caras & Hijo del Do Caras) vs Dr. Wagner Jr. (& Hijo del Dr. Wagner & Tinieblas) on 12/15.

Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Underground 3×22.

The new episode of Lucha Talk is up.

Lucha de Barrio sent out an interview with Pakal, building up his match with Black Taurus on this most recent episode.

The people behind 126F are doing their own podcast now too. It seems only available on YouTube and isn’t on it’s own playlist, which I do not like, but it seems only 30 minutes long, which I very much like.

Black Terry talks about a dangerous time in lucha in Laredo.

CMLL Domingo Familiares: 2017-11-05 


Recapped: 11/20/2017

The CMLL Sunday Arena Mexico is usually not aired, but they make an annual exception for the Dia de los Muertos show.


Oro Jr. & Príncipe Diamante beat Akuma & Espíritu Negro
(10:06 [4:35, 2:07, 3:24], 1/2, ok, via

La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
(12:09 [5:14, 3:40, 3:15], 1/3, ok, via 

Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado
(10:55 [4:38, 1:58, 4:19], 1/3, ok, via

Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Luciferno
(8:39 [2:39, 1:56, 4:04], 2/3, ok, via

Carístico, Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr. beat Ephesto, Kráneo, Mephisto
(13:42 [4:22, 5:19, 4:01], 1/3, ok, via

What Happened: Matches 3 on are played with Dia de Los Muertos rules.

Espíritu and Oro went to a double pin (so a double pin on back to back shows after none for months.)


this didn’t seem fun for Jarochita

How many different ways can I say “an average match”?

The main event was rote – if you’ve seen Mephisto & Marco do the height gags, you’ve seen a lot of this – but the only match to really feel like it got a decent amount of time. Soberano & Carístico used it to showoff a bit, and it kind of turned into the best match of the night. Not that means much, this was a match of short fights taking a big backseat to the pageantry, and absolutely none of this is worthwhile seeing after the fact. This main event at least did get the crowd going better than the rest of the card.

The semimain looked like the most promising match on paper but never really got to an interesting level. The Chavez brothers didn’t do much special, the rudos control didn’t last long, and it ended quick. Short matches were the order of the day, and this one didn’t crack 10 minutes.

this did look like fun for Jarochita

Panther matches have a way of just continuing to keep going and eventually getting good for it. This match was a whole bag of nothing for 2.5 falls, and then it got a little bit better for the last few minutes. In no way should this encourage you to watch this show, and it’s just about what you’re going to get with these guys all the time and is pretty much a waste of time, but it didn’t annoy me.

The women’s match fits in the category of matches with few errors but also few moments of actual excitement. They ran thru the usual offense for the usual amount of time and it was alright, I guess. There’s no evolution to these matches, just varying level of performances. It’s a small pool of women, and it sometimes sticks out that they’ve never try any team work spots except for two people doing the same move at the same time. Jarochita and Isis are bad together, though it did lead to Jarochita hitting Isis really hard by accident twice in the last ten seconds. She’s got to get a lot better at the moonsault or has to get rid of the moonsault; no one’s impressed by a crummy looking moonsault in 2017.

The opener was short, but better for it. They had to keep moving. The técnicos got in a few high spots, the rudos didn’t waste too much time, and it didn’t overstay it’s time while still not offering a whole. Oro is usually a level ahead of these guys and didn’t really show much more than the other three, which is not exactly a great thing.