Lucha Times, Requests

Lucha Times is up. Vague reason to be worried about inaccuracies (aka reason #21231 why their .com staff doesn’t appear to be on the ball): Galavision’s schedule has Sunday’s date as 3/1, not 2/29.

After reading KrisZ’s lucha news and rereading, I see now that I completely missed on noticing that the title of the “Rey wants a rematch” section indicated that would happen on 3/19. Which leaves Shocker/Vampiro, and I dunno. The recap of last Friday’s show goes for a “Shocker kept missing rudos and hitting Vampiro, Vamp took offense, rudos collected on it.” So who knows where/if it goes anywhere.

Going back to vague for a second, I’m kinda thinking I need to act some sections for the unaccustomed CMLL-type person to better get a grip on what’s going on. The flaws in this idea are
– I never hear from people who are unfamliar to CMLL, so I’m not really sure what they need. Or maybe they’re content with what they have, even.
– But then I don’t hear from anyone. Well, Joe and Homer, but I hold them down by quickly pushing their posts to the bottom of the screen. And Rob. And we’re happy to have you, Rob.

In this vien, I drew up that site FAQ over there. First draft.

The other thing is, I think the being able to connect a face and a name would be a bunch of help if you’re a person who knows only one of those at best. La Arena has done this, but it suffers from being outdated. The problem isn’t clipping head shots:

Rey Bucanero
Ultimo Guerrero
Tarzan Boy

It’s getting shots that aren’t just cropped parts of copyrighted images posted elsewhere on the ‘net. (Rey and Ultimo courtesy, Tarzan courtesy And stealing images off the net and pretending they’re you’re own is not a wise idea.

If anyone realllly wanted to help by finding some free for public use shots of faces and such (or, since it at least wouldn’t be stealing directly from someone else’s photowork, screen cap some good profile shots from TV) and send them my way, I’d love to use ’em.

Is there any chance jtron reads this? Is there any chance that OMLL tape he was talking about before is done and I can see? Curiosity’s sake, at least.

#115 up

Last week’s show (#115 on your scoreboard) went up sometime yesterday. I didn’t like the show, yet somehow gave it a 2. Gooooo abusing the system.

It looks like they did a late in the week switch on Lucha de Vuelta, because it’s started airing at 12 CST. This is probably why I should wait till past Monday to update those things. Doesn’t look like we’re getting any more of CMLL this time around then the one match show they did orginally.

Thanks for the bio info, Rob.

Next big CMLL card announced

March 19th, CMLL will hold “Tribute to Two Legends” at Arena Mexico. The legends? Santo (I) and Salavador Lutteroth (founder of CMLL).

The match that’s be signed for the show so far is Hijo de Perro Aguayo/Terrible vs Cien Caras/Mascara 2000, hair/hair, which is a result of the Aguayo/Guapos vs Capos feuding of late. While I’m not going guess a winner (well, yet), I would assume that the outcome of the match will say a lot about Perro Aguayo Sr.’s future; if they really are still building to an Aguayo/Universo rematch, Capos will take this one. floats a couple ideas around for a second big match. Rey Bucanero is mentioned as being back within days and still considering himself a tag team champion, so there’s a GdI/Park/Shocker rematch looming at some time. As an alternate idea, the company site also notes that 3/19 is almost a year to date of the last Shocker/Vampiro hair/hair match, and Vampiro wasn’t getting along this week when teaming with Shocker. (Somehow, they have news about the show up, but no results. Eh.)

This is me just pulling something out of thin air, but – also has a bit about young guys being prominetly involved in the 3/19 show, and it’s the show is a tribute to Santo AND we haven’t had a Leyenda de Plata Cibernetico in some time, so…

In actual news, Olimpico didn’t get along with partners Felino and Virus last week in Arena Mexico – so he’s apparently decided to join the rudos. He’ll be teaming with Crazy and Zumbido, taking on the Mexican Trios champions Volador, Sagrado and Safari this week in a non-title match.

The main events in Arena Mexico are the usual riffs off the last few weeks action – Vampiro/Shocker/Park vs Ultimo/Tarzan/Warrior in a rematch from last week, Aguayo/Terrible/Negro (playing the part of Mascara Magica) vs Universo/Mascara 2K/Apolo.

Arena Coliseo Wednesday’s main event this week will be a Satanico (c)/Mepshito CMLL Welterweight Title match, as that feud continues to be featured outside of Arena Mexico. Coliseo de Puebla has an intriguing Blue Panther vs Ultimo Guerrero (c) match for the CMLL LH Title on Monday. And tommorow’s Guadalajara’s main event is Terrible vs Tarzan Boy.

CMLL Recap #114 is up, featuring Virus’ SL Title win and Atlantis vs Perro for the Tohoku JR Heavyweight Title.

AmDragon in CMLL?

trying to hype up Guadalajara shows more (the results are not listed on…

I think I meant “now”. Because they are there now – go to, scroll all the way to the bottom and check ’em out. Unlike the photos for Arena Mexico (and formerly for Arena Coliseo), they’ve got pencil sketches that may or may not actually depict the action. The results are more prose than press release, which is always nifty. Averno did not win the Welterweight Title, as obvious from Mephisto’s mentioned challenge. I’m almost getting the impression that the Infernales broke up because they’d get more main events that way.

This isn’t NJPWBlog, but it’s an interesting note that American Dragon and Heat will be in the US on 3/6 for a NJPW-US Toukon 2 show (as are CMLL irregulars Nosawa, Masada and Bobby Quance so far.) Dragon was speculated to be visiting CMLL in the spring, and since he’ll be on the next NJPW tour and the one after that, if he was actually going to be in Mexico City, it’d probably work best logisitcally for him to go around the time he’s in LA. That means he either shows up the next two weeks (2/27, 3/5, assuming he’s working Arena Mexico), as he’s scheduled back in Japan on 3/12.

Which is a long winded saying either you hear about AmDragon showing up soon, or file Danielson’s appearance with Lyger’s speculated match last in the pile of intersting rumors that never materalized.

Eh, this post sucked. Scroll down and read Joe’s. How we end up posting in the same half hour, I dunno.

The FIX is in…

A few news and notes:

Interesting result from 2/17 at Area Coliseo. Mephisto beat Satanico in a four way match (Averno & Negro Casas were the other two participants). After the match, Mephisto challenged Satanico to a CMLL Welterweight Title match.

I can’t find the result, but I’ll go out on a limb and say el Santo kept his mask in the mascara contra mascara match against Hijo del Cobarde. Here’s a (slightly outdated) look at Santo’s history in stip matches.

The Do FIXER stable (Magnum TOKYO, Genki Horiguchi, Ryo Saito, Susumu Yokosuka, and K-NESS) from Toryumon will be coming in sometime in May to do some work for EMLL. Not sure how many shows they’re doing, but they’re also working for Toryumon Mexico and IWRG.

In the most mind boggling match in a while, at the 2/13 XLUM show in Tijuana, the main event was a ladder match between Black Tiger, Dr. Wagner, and Pierroth Jr. Yes, Pierroth in a ladder match. Even better, there was $5000 in US money suspended over the ring. Black Tiger ended up winning only to be attacked by Nicho and Rey Mysterio Sr. Wagner made the save.

I leave with with a quote from this week’s Figure Four Weekly:

“Pierroth announced he would be forming his own his own university to compete with Shocker’s Guapo University. I can only imagine the folks that would choose Pierroth’s school over Shocker’s.”


Uh, not exactly midweek, is it?

At any rate, #113 is done. I’m considerably less hyped about it after watching it with a closer eye – which happens, but always is disappionting display of judgement – but I think the whole concept worked together to make it a 3. By the skin of it’s teeth.

EDIT: It’s not there. I could’ve sworn I put it there. It’ll be up around 4:30p CST.

I’ll update the index later – it’s done, just not done where I can get it and I don’t want to redo things.

Lucha Times is updated. I guess I skipped an episode on Vuelta? I’m confused, but I think I’m back on track. Assuming they air the complete CMLL episode, they’ll be a Capos match that I didn’t recap, but shouldn’t be that great. I’ll take a look at it anyway.

I noticed on the Saturday episode this week, they started teasing Averno and Mephisto having a problem with Satanico, about a couple weeks before we heard about it or it actually happened. I think it’s a nice touch, but kinda amusing in the light that for US audiences (somewhat by accident, because they skipped on episode), they won’t have shown any of the build up for (seemingly more important) Arkangel/Angle Azteca mask/mask in two weeks. Goofy.

Feuds of note:

  • Arena Mexico continued a semi-final focus on Capos vs Aguayo/Guapos last Friday. During the match, Universo took out Mascara Magica with his Tombstone piledriver, and Magica will be out at least a week. Post match, Perro Sr. showed up to back up his son (though still saying he’s not returning), and Perro Jr. and Terrible challenges Mascara and Cien to a double hair/hair match. They said no, but that’d be an intersting stake match in that I’m not totally sure who’d win. Rematch this week, with Porky replacing Magica.
  • Averno got a shot against Satanico for his Welterweight Title last night in Guadalajara, but I haven’t seen a result turn up yet. It’d be awful nifty if the purpose of giving it to Satanico was to transition it to Averno and, with Apolo booking, they’re trying to hype up Guadalajara shows more (the results are not listed on…but always bet on the title staying put. Averno/Satanico is also scheduled to main event Arena Puebla Tuesday, and may happen a third time on Tuesday in Arena Coliseo (a rematch from the previous week), where both ex-Infernales, Satanico and Negro Casas are scheduled to compete in a four man main event tournament.
  • Terrible will have a chance to prove that “no changes” axiom wrong, as he gets another shot at the CMLL LH Title and Ultimo Guerrero in Arena Lopez Mateos de Tlanepantla this Wednesday.
  • Dr. Wagner and Atlantis have a single match in San Juan Pantitlan, in the buildup to a mask/mask somewhere before the end of time. Maybe.
  • Arena Mexico’s main events seem to be in a holding pattern around the previous tag team title issue, waiting for Rey to get back to continue. Last week, it was Ultimo/Tarzan/Warrior (replacing Violencia as “guy who might be the fourth member of GdI”) beat Shocker/Park/Rayo. This week, they’ll swap Vampiro for Rayo and try it again.
  • On an indy show in Juarez, El Hijo Del Santo puts up his mask vs Hijo del Cobarde. Early vegas line has Cobarde’s odds of winning at 1000000000000000000000:1. Which is generous.

Guapos 2004

Only news I’ve got is a preliminary list of people involved in this year’s Guapo U dealio:

Many Cirio
Tony Cirio
Luis Cirio
Ram Diessel
Misterioso II
Marco Rivera
Brazo de Plata Jr.
Alan Stone
Loco Max (same one)

There’s supposedly more names to be announced next week as well. That’s 13 right there, so I wonder if they’ll be cutting down the list right away.

I hope Nosawa gets to hang around a while in this.

Lucha times is updated. Saturday’s day time showing is a one hour deal, so set your VCRs for the late night version if you need to get everything. No split feed this week.

Recaps will be midweek-ish.

someone nail those chairs down

So, I still haven’t watched last week’s TV, but I was just watching this week’s show over lunch. Which was last week’s show that they skipped.

You’d think doing a tournament with 3 rudos and 1 tecnico, and having the focus of the tournament turning that only tecnico even more rudo, would be nutty. But you’d be very wrong. It was a fun group of three matches, and while the individual ratings I give ’em later might not seem impressive, taken as a whole it’s easily my favorite CMLL main event in a while.

The only problem is that they ended the show right after that, 20 minutes to the hour. No idea what’s up with that. I think we missed a Pierroth/Capos/Silva match, so perhaps that wasn’t really a problem.

Hey, now that I’ve waited, I can recap these in order. Awesome.

Didn’t do news this week because there was no time, but also because there wasn’t much news to do. Pierroth is threatening to form his own University. Safari took Lizmark’s place in the Arena Mexico main – looks like Lizmark didn’t show, but no idea why. They could be starting a Guapos/Capos feud, based off of the Guapos backing Aguayo against the guys who took out his dad.

Guapos make terrible mistake

This isn’t the new Guapo U class (which, like all second seasons are hyped, has a Much Better Turnout Than Last Time), which will probably take six months to go anywhere, but something far more sinster.

The Guapos are taking in the CMLL Mascot and making him their own mascot de Guaponess. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

So if I’m leading with that, you know that there’s not much for me to hit here. Dr. x and Mr. Power had a Mexican Welterweight Title match last night in Arena San Juan Pantitlan but I haven’t seen results as of yet. It’s also the Mexican Welterweight Title, which I only remember because it does seem to get brought up once a year.

Arena Mexico’s show looks good, but probably no big news coming out of it. Main’s Atlantis/Panther/Lizmark vs Tarzan/Ultimo/Warrior, with a semi main of Guapos vs Capos.

Apolo Dantes will be taking over as booker of Arena Guadalajara shows. Probably not concidentally, their Sunday show lineups have been added to This weekend’s main event is a one fall match between Dr. Wagner and LA Park.

Lucha Times is updated. I expect to have last weekend’s CMLL up here around tommorow, this time.