12/18 news

Not much news; just roundups of previously mentioned lineups. There’s a note that Tigre Metalico and Tigre Blanco are the current Mexico State (EdM); I have Rayo Tapatio I & II as champions, but I might have gotten those belts confused with another. No idea when/where they would’ve won those belts.

The Ultimo Guerrero/Dr. Wagner match will take place as the main event of Tuesday’s Arena Coliseo show. It’ll likely be on the CMLL mothership and not GdR. They’re going to run shows as scheduled on Christmas and New Year’s.

The pictures from this week’s Arena Mexico show are up on CMLL.com. Check out Atlantis and his new red & black mask.

12/17 news

Three minutes to spare.

CMLL (FRI) 12/16 Arena Mexico Results [ova]
1) Leono, Chamaco Valaguez Jr., Starman b Hooligan, Super Comando, Artillero
2) Satanico, Felino, Sagrado b Hijo de Pierroth, Okumura, Ohara
3) Blue Panther, Hijo de Lizmark, Ultimo Dragon b Pierroth, Mascara Ano 2000, Apolo Dantes
4) Hijo de Perro Aguayo, Hector Garza, Terrible b Atlantis, Tarzan Boy, Rey Bucanero
Damian 666 distracted the GdA trio and Hector low blowed Atlantis for the win.
5) Averno, Mephisto b El Hijo Del Santo, Negro Casas [CMLL TAG]

indy (FRI) 12/16 Centro Deportivo Roma de Tuxtla Gutierrez Results [KrisZ]
1) Pinguito, Guerrerito Zulu b Destructor, Remolino Negro
2) India Sioux, Josseline b Lady Metalica, Flor Metalica
3) Dos Caras Jr., Murci Jr. b Imposter, Olimpico
4) Mistico, El Ninja b Jaguar de Chiapas, Ultimo Guerrero

CMLL (SUN) 12/18 Arena Solidaridad Lineup [lo mejor de la lucha]
1) ? vs ?
2) Al Barone, Memo Valles, Koko Viper vs Gato Volador, Halcon Maltes, Venum
3) Indomito vs Monje Negro Jr. vs Estrella Dorada Jr.
4) Heavy Metal, La Sombra, Silver Star vs Diluvio Negro I, Caifane I, Caifane II

CMLL (SUN) 12/18 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Celestial vs Flama
2) Exterminador & Metro vs Mr. Trueno & Fraile de la Muerte
3) Ringo Mendoza & Nube Roja vs Asesino & Angel Blanco Jr.
4) Mr. Niebla, Brazo de Plata, Rayman vs Terrible, Bestia Salvaje, Cesar Dantes
5) Chris Stone vs Okumura vs Danger [hair]

CMLL (TUE) 12/20 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Thunderboy vs Furia Nazi [10min]
2) Idolo vs Depredador [10min]
3) Gro. Samurai vs Mr. Power
4) Ringo Mendoza & Nube Roja vs Asesino Negro & Malefico
5) Mr. Niebla & Rayman vs Terrible & Cien Caras Jr.

Marcela was succesful in her CMLL Women’s Championship defense in Arena Neza on Thursday, though it doesn’t sound like it was clean.

Today’s TV

Galavision was the expected episode.
05/31 Alan Stone, Texano Jr., Chris Stone b Nitro, Arkangel, Loco Max [coliseo]
06/03 Damian/Halloween/Terrible b Universo2K/Satanico/Magica
06/03 Mistico/Metal/Negro b Perro/Garza/Pierroth
06/03 Groon/Park/Wagner DQ GdI (Ultimo, Rey, Olimpico)

GdR #4
12/11 Arena Coliseo: Rayo de Jalisco b Canek
12/09 Arena Mexico: Dos Caras Jr., Hijo de Lizmark, Ultimo Dragon b Kenzo Suzuki, Olimpico, Mascara Ano 2000

I must’ve done something very wrong in my life. (Shooting the guy in Reno?)

According to this post on LuchaWorld, these are the matches which aired on the CMLL mothership this week:

5) Averno, Mephisto b El Hijo Del Santo, Negro Casas [CMLL TAG]
3) Blue Panther, Hijo de Lizmark, Ultimo Dragon b Pierroth, Mascara Ano 2000, Apolo Dantes
2) Satanico, Felino, Sagrado b Hijo de Pierroth, Okumura, Ohara
4) Hijo de Perro Aguaio, Hector Garza, Terrible b Atlantis, Tarzan Boy, Rey Bucanero (probably)

GdR promised a match with Dos Caras Jr., Dr. Wagner, Ultimo Guerrero, and Lizmark Jr. next week. The only DF match Dos worked this week was the main event of the Tuesday Arena Coliseo show:

5) Dr. Wagner, Dos Caras Jr., Hijo de Lizmark b Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero, Olimpico

I’m guessing either the second or third match from Sunday’s Arena Coliseo event to go with it.

12/16 news


Ovaciones is not working when I checked just now, but if I recall correctly, it was just build for the Arena Mexico main event. While Mephisto had a point that he and Avenro do team more often so they should keep the belts, I think there might be something going on with Santo’s status with the company. CMLL was persistent in mentioning that Santo was only going to work specific dates, and he’s not only stuck around a month longer, but he’s also on every Arena Mexico show (which have been also been extended.) I don’t know if this means Santo will be a regular, even after the winter break, but I think it’s a sign CMLL would have no problem bringing him into defend the tag titles sometime in the future. Since they’re CMLL belts, it doesn’t really make a difference if that time is next spring or 2007.

This would be the biggest win of Averno and Mephisto’s career if they pulled it off, and they have no particular momentum going into it. I expect Negro and Casas to win the belts for a third time tonight, but it’s not a complete Universo/Halloween lock.

KrisZ reports Super Parka in jail, having gotten in a fight with her daughter’s boyfriend after the boyfriend got into a fight with his daughter. Super Parka doesn’t think it’s serious, and expects to be out jail in time to make his bookings on Sunday.

Found a link – KrisZ on F4D has Ultimo making the UWA Heavyweight Championship challenge to Wagner. I’m focused on this match because if Dr. Wagner Jr. and Ultimo Guerrero meet in a match in the next 15 days which makes TV (and challenges on Tuesday sometimes turn up a special main events on Sunday), everyone’s gotta to reconsider their Lucha MOTY.

I haven’t gotten back to anyone about GdR DVDs, because I want to make sure I actually get this weekends episode recorded (and don’t know exactly how I’m going to do it – where is that darn VCR remote?) before I start making solid promises. As a quick blanket statement, if you’ve asked so far, I’ll get you the DVDs

Cards and results to finish this out:

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12/15 news

Ovaciones redesigned their site; the lucha story index is http://www.ovaciones.com/deportivo/menus/lucha.html. The whole site is loading incredibly slow, and I hope they get that fixed. On the upside, everything does look nicer, and that’s what a redesign is all about. Perhaps as a special gift to us all, we finally have AAA results!

AAA (SAT) 12/10 Monumental Bullring Results [ova]
1) Kaoma Jr., Tito Santana, Rio Bravo, Oscuridad b Rey Cometa, Laredo Kid, Hombre Sin Miedo, Principe Zafiro
2) Mini Abismo Negro, Jerrito Estrada, Mini Psicosis b Mascarita Sagarada, Ocatgoncito, Mascarita Sagrada Jr.
3) Shika b Chaman [second’s hair]
4) Cinthia Moreno, Oriental b Tiffany, Gran Apache [MEX MIXED TAG SF]
5) Chessman, La Diabólica b Estrellita, Billy Boy [MEX MIXED TAG SF]
6) Cinthia Moreno, Oriental b Chessman, La Diabolica [MEX MIXED TAG Final]
7) Intocable, Zorro, Electroshock b Pirata Morgan, Charly Manson, Zumbido
8) Shocker b Sangre Chicana [hair]
9) La Parka II, Latin Lover, Abismo Negro b Cibernetico, Cuervo, Escoria

The press had been talking about Abismo Negro turning tecnico all week, so that’s not a surprise. Cuervo and Escoria make reasonable cult members but odd main event particpants. They announced on the show that all the Sagrada’s would be getting new gimmicks in the near future. Shocker vs Sangre was a bloody battle.

CMLL (TUE) 12/13 Arena Coliseo Results [CMLL]
1) Mesala, Caligula b Rayo Tapatio I, Rayo Tapatio II
2) Stuka Jr., Trueno, Sensei b Apocalipsis, Ramstein, Flecha
3) Metro, Virus, Pantera b Nitro, Hooligan, Loco Max
4) Satánico, Black Warrior, Brazo de Plata vs Dr. X, Sangre Azteca, Pierroth
Pierroth replaced Emilio, Dr. X replaced HsN. Hope Safari feels better.
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., Dos Caras Jr., Hijo de Lizmark b Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero, Olimpico
WO.com report had Ultimo challenging Wagner to a title match post match.

CMLL (TUE) 12/13 Arena Aficion, Pachuca, Hidalgo Results [ova]
1) Hidroman, Aspid vs Hijo de Medic’s, Tigerman
2) Cerebro Negro, Braulio Flores b Titan, Mensajero de la Muerte
3) el Hijo del Gran Markus, Gran Markus II b Tony Boy, Araña Cibernética
4) Emilio Charles Jr., Bestia Salvaje b Felino, Texano Jr.
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., Dos Caras Jr. b Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero

CMLL (THU) 12/15 Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Antaris, Pulsar vs Cirio I, Cirio II
2) Stuka, Trueno vs Apocalipsis, Ramstein
3) Universo 2000, Mascara Ano 2000, el Hijo de Cien Caras vs Head Hunter I, Brazo de Plata
4) Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Olimpico vs el Hijo del Santo, Dr. Wagner Jr., LA Park

Accion this week had highlights from the CMLL main event atomico (looked fun), and AAA clips from their Central American tour (small building.)

Veneno won back the IWRG Heavyweight Championship this past Sunday in a three way with former champion Cyborg and Bestia Salvaje.

IWRG says it’ll have it’s last show of the season on 12/20, with a 10 way cage of death mask match.

el Halcon net #49 is up.
– Pictures from Villano III & Maximo at the DragonDoor show.
– Interview with Angel Blanco Jr. He was trained by Diablo Velasco for 3 years, and later by Texano, Flash, and his brother. He’s been wrestling for 13 years. His debut match was in a trios match, against Sangre Astros, Angel Azteca and Atlantis teaming wiht Hijo del Angel Blanco (his brother) and Angel Blanco Jr. (cousin) for the CMLL Trios Titles. Are you confused? I’m totally confused. Angel Jr. unconfused by explaining his father would not let him use that name until he first finished becoming a CPA, and after, he wanted to make his debut under that name with his father, but Angel Blanco Sr. passed away before it could happen. His goal is to make it in CMLL full time.
– Final part of the Ocampo Eddie bio, from ’03 on.
– Interview with Mini Olimpico. He doesn’t want to ever turn rudo. When Olimpicito won the CMLL Mini Championship (of which he’s currently still champ), he didn’t actually get the belt – Pierrothito forget to bring it. It took him 8 days to actually get it. Olimpico has defended the belt five times in two years – I think he says he’s beat Pierrothito, Mini Violencia and Ultimo Dragoncito in defense.
– Interview with the CMLL Barber! His actual name is Alfonso Penaloza. He just happened to fill in one day in 1990 when someone was sick, and the position stuck. He hasn’t kept count, but he figures he’s at 90. It’s tough when the fans protest his hair cuttery because an injustice has gone on, but he’s got a job to do.
Poster of Tarzan Boy.
– LLF recap and anniversary show preview.
– Nominees for the Adiccionj Luchistica awards. I love how one of the Best Fight/Feud nominees is “Atlantis vs being a rudo”.

awards pushed back? and other insanity

thecubsfan has finally gone insane: Anyone subscribe to Figure 4 Daily? Did you hear the show with KrisZ? I heard it myself, and – well, I don’t know how to explain this without sounding crazy, but I’m 72% sure Bryan got myself and KrisZ mixed up for at least the first five minutes of the conversation. The first question was about the luchaWiki, and while KrisZ has an account and made some edits (I think) and been plenty helpful be doing the news/results he does, but it’s odd first topic for him yet a better topic to ask thecubsfan, since I just squeezed in a plug at the end of my interview back whenever, and plugged it here in talking about that interview.

(It’s a PERFECT topic for Jose, who Bryan or someone should get on to talk about having dinner with famous lucha people, if nothing else. That’s a money half hour interview right there.)

There were other things too, but that one was easiest to explain. The interview was good, and it’s a worthwhile listen, but I need to know if that actually happened or if I’m hallucinating weird things (again.) You know, just to get orientated. This has been bugging me for days now.

non-content about content: Things have been a bit quiet of late, updatewise. I’ve been working on a minor project that I hope to have done by 2006, but right now, it’s only a bunch of ill thought out programming no one’s seeing. I do plan on doing some updates to the wiki tomorrow if all goes well (and so it shall not.)

Last year, the Tapatia award voting opened up on the 26th, and I’ve started to write an actual preview/primer a couple of times with that date in mind. Since I started watching Guerreros del Ring, I’ve been thinking it might be worthwhile to push everything back in to January (probably not even starting prelims till 01/04.) While I don’t think anything that happens in the next two and half weeks is going to dramatically change things, we (or at least I) am getting more a couple more weeks of TV of 2005 TV in 2005, so we might as well take it into account.

The downside is everyone may be sick of awards by January, and I wouldn’t blame you. So someone can feel free to shoot this down or suggest an alternative. I love alternatives.

DVDs for, well, uh, um…: This is beyond stupid.

See, I’ve got this DVD writer, and I’ve got blank DVDs, and I’ve got these lucha episodes which are current yet apparently scarce enough to be of some value, and apparently I don’t have enough stupid projects. Assuming I can master the skill of “pressing the record button in a timely matter”, I think I can handle making 3 episode blocks of GdR, if there was any interest.

The thing is – and this is the great beyond – I have absolutely no idea what I’d want in exchange. I don’t want to make money off this site in any fashion (a policy that hasn’t come up much, admittedly), so that’s out. I’ve got tapes here, tapes on the way, and no idea when I’ll watch any of them, so I don’t really like that idea. That’s the basic problem – I may have a supply, but I don’t have a clue what to demand.

I’m just going to leave it open. If you’re a regular and really want some DVD-Rs (which may or may not work – hey ROBERT), e-mail me and maybe we can work out some easy terms. If you’re a person I don’t know, then you probably need some awesome offer or I’m not going to work up the effort to respond, much less make anything. If you’re a beautiful stranger who’d like to make some sort of lewd offer, I’ll print it out and put it on my refrigerator. Or maybe I’ll rethink this when I wake, and this paragraph will just mysteriously disappear tomorrow (wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened this week.)

No GdR recap today; maybe I’ll pull myself together for it on Thursday.

Lucha Times

Normal times all around.

Saturday: The anticipation for Groon is killing me.

Sunday: The main event trios sounds neat, but it aired on a weird delay and taping got screwed it the first time. Must remember not to delete!

GdR: They plugged the Ultimo/Ultimo trios match

12/14 news

Ovaciones didn’t update at all today and neither has CMLL, so no Tuesday Coliseo results as of yet. Four days later, still no AAA results from the big show.

IWRG (MON) 12/08 Arena Naucalpan Results [KrisZ]
1) Frisbee b Kid Tiger
2) Super Colt & Zaiyer b Gran Cuchillo & Panterita
3) Kaleth, Nemesis, Pirata Morgan Jr. b Metro, Suicida, Ultra Mega
4) Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Veneno b Andy Barrow, Cyborg, Masada
5) Pierroth, Hijo del Pierroth, Pierroth Jr., Pierroth II b Bestia Salvaje, Damian 666, Head Hunter I, Scorpio Jr.

If you’re up for very bloody Head Hunter I pictures, check the IWRG results page. (EWWWWWWWW.)

CMLL (MON) 12/12 Arena Puebla Results [KrisZ]
1) Blue Center & Iron vs Ares & Espiritu Maligno
2) Furia Chicana, Siki Osama Jr., Toro Bill vs the Tiger, Tigre Rojo, ?
3) Hijo del Texano, Maximo, Sagrado DQ Arkangel, Enterrador 2000, Maniacop
4) Blue Panther, Brazo de Plata, La Mascara DQ Misterioso II, Olimpico, Pierroth
5) Atlantis, Mascara 2000, Universo 2000 b Dr. Wagner Jr., Heavy Metal, Negro Casas

indy (MON) 12/12 Tejano Saloon, Pharr, Texas Lineup [KrisZ]
1) Mercurio Jr. b Poder 7
2) el Astro & Marvin b Duelo & Wolverine
3) Black Cougar & Halcon de Oro Jr. b Mercenario & Zarco
4) Corazo de Barrio & Halcon de Oro b Asterisco & Gato Volador
5) Hijo del Santo & Tigre Universitario b Maniaco & Pirata Morgan

AAA (SUN) 12/11 Arena Coliseo de Monterrey Lineup [KrisZ]
1) Dragon Jade & Dragon Ninja b Anibal el Vampiro & Ave Negra
2) Ares, Medico, Zumbido b Angel de Amor, Konnan Plus, Pancho Tequilla
3) Incognito, Pimpinela Escarlata, Sangre Chicana Jr. DQ Antifaz del Norte, Corazon de Barrio, Hator
4) Sangre Chicana b Shocker and Pirata Morgan [bull terrior]
Sangre Jr. and Zumbido both got involved in the match.

IWRG (SUN) 12/18 Arena Naucalpan Lineup [iwrg]
1) ? vs ?
2) Ultramega & Antaris vs ? & ?
3) Dr. X, Apocalipsis, Loco Max vs ?, Dr. Cerebro, Cerebro Negro
4) Suicida vs Pirata Morgan Jr.
5) Mistico, Felino, Negro Casas vs Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero, Canek

ONAC (FRI) 12/23 Auditorio de Tijuana Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Cinico vs Dementor vs TJ Crazy
2) Black Spider & X-Torm vs Angel Negro & El Diablo [Zona X]
3) Bino Gambino vs Thunderbird [EWF International]
4) TJ Boy & Arandu vs Titanik & Morvius [X-LAW Tag]
5) Super Crazy & Nicho vs Crazy Boy & Chuck Palumbo

Now that’s a unique main event. X-Mas break for the Mexicools, so I guess they’re free to do it? Don’t tell anyone so we’re sure they won’t get in trouble.

Apparently, the Observer says the 12/02 Arena Mexico (Halloween/Universo hair match) drew 17,000. All I can tell you is there were plenty of open seats during the opener I saw on GdR (recap to come today or tommorow), but that’s about normal during the opener.

Speaking of wild observer news, Dave says CMLL wants to book Brock Lesnar. But it’s still far from happening. If it does happen, I think they need to treat him like Giant Silva (and when you look at him in the ring with the lucha guys, he will look as tall as Giant Silva), and he counts for two men in every match.

The dark match on this weeks Arena Coliseo show was Blue Angelo & El Redentor b Bacteria & Comando Mega.

Safari & Sangre Azteca in NJPW full results (his collection of masks by wearing each one. (You must login to see the pictures.)
– Links I should’ve added sooner: Lo Mejor de La Lucha, and offical sites of El Hijo Del Santo and Fureza Guerrera

Lucha Times and boring junk to come. And maybe that recap.

12/13 news

indy (SUN) 12/11 Arena Solidaridad Results [KrisZ]
1) Aguila del Norte & Chako b Loco Corona & Norteno Jr.
2) Coco Viper & Venum b Mercurio & Pegasso
3) Al Barone & Aurora b Halcon Maltes & La Justiciera
4) Maniaco, Memo Valle, Monje Negro Jr. b Estrella Dorada Jr., Gato Volador, Indomito
5) Caifane Rockero I & Caifane Rockero II b Silver Star & La Sombra
6) Heavy Metal, Hijo del Santo, Mascara Sagrada b Diluvio Negro I, Hector Garza, Super Park

YCV (SUN) 12/11 Poliforum Zamna, Merida, Yucatan Results [KrisZ]
1) Black Poison, Mutante b Panther Boy, Panther Boy Jr.
2) Espanto I, Buitre Lee, Estrella Celeste b Rey Persa, Azhor, Guerrero Blanco
3) Averno, Mephisto b Proverbio, Dr. Siniestro [super libre]
4) Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Hector Garza, Tarzan Boy b Negro Casas, Dr. Wagner Jr., Mistico
5) Felino, La Mascara b Olimpico, Rey Bucanero

It sure looks like Maximo was the guy listed as Equis in the Arena Mexico segunda. That’s odd.

Ovaciones is the normal Tuesday Aficion preview, and a interview with Mephisto about Friday’s main event. Mephisto figured Negro and Santo will be their most difficult defense ever, but thinks his superior teamwork with Averno will give them the edge. Mephisto, demon from hell, wishes all the fans a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

The Black Tiger/LA Park mask match in Torreon, which was originally mentioned to be “sometime in spring ’06”, and then moved up to 12/25, will now possibly move back into early ’06. In the latest Lucha2000 (via box y lucha foro), Black Tiger mentioned being in a car accident where he hurt his nose, and required surgery. Tiger is not sure if he’ll be ready for the 25th, but promises they’ll move the show back by no more than a month if he can’t go. (This explains why he’s not on the Torreon show this week.)

No full results from the show, but the sons of Cien Caras beat Flash I & II in Guadalajara this past Sunday for the Western (Occidente) tag team championship.

Box Y Lucha #2744 is up.
– poster are pictures of Latin Lover from the Teleton.
– Latin Lover says this year has been the best year of his life, what with becoming famous and all. He’s going to be part of a weekly (Saturday) TV show soon.
– Diana La Cazadora is a traffic reporter in her other job. She was trained to wrestle by Bello Canibal, Carnicero Aguilar, and Centurion Negro. She hopes she makes it back to Arena Mexico more often next year.
– At the year end Televisa network party, they’re having their own mini-Dancing With The Stars contest with representatives from all their divisions – the winning division getting a car raffled off for their group. AAA announcer Arutro Rivera will help represent the Special Events division, and he talks about
– Averno & Mephisto figure teaming and winning often before will give them a edge of Santo & Casas this week. Casas & Santo feel they were robbed of the titles last time they lost them, so they’re destined to win them back here. (If I recall correctly, they actually lost the titles in a clean, though nearly neckbreaking, loss to Rey and Ultimo.)
– Halloween breaks his silence and talks about his fight. One of the bits in this article is that he was so hurt, he didn’t want the fans to remember him like this, so he refused to let Box Y Lucha take his picture. (And then he showed up on the CMLL show.) Halloween says his knee went out in the second fall (which could be true, but watching the Sunday show this weekend, I recalled his knee went out in that match to, so it’s a problem that’s been around for a while.) His recovery timeline is mentioned here as one year, and he sounds very depressed about it. “This has been the best 18 years of my life, and if I never come back, remember me as someone who gave it my all” kinda thing.
– Marcela talks about her last trip to Japan. Nothing much new there, except she felt she got more respect because she was champion and tried to represent the belt as best as she could.
– Emilio Charles Jr. says he’s happy with what he’s accomplished, having spent most of the year outside of Mexico City. The highlight for him, of course, is beating Satanico for his hair. Emilio also says the Taliban is broken up, because he’s busy and Scorpio seems to be out of CMLL and Bestia is in a Guadalajara a lot, so it’s hard to get together.
– Box Y Lucha talks to a 12 year old kid who is running his own kids promotion (for three years!) in Monterrey. Sounds like a backyard deal, except they have an actual ring and occasionally have concessions. That’s still crazy.
– Head Hunter I was a big fan of Abdullah the Butcher, and that’s why he wanted to get into wrestling. While he’s always listed as from the Dominican Republic, and was born there, he and his brother (II) grew up in the US. They trained with Black Gordman, and debuted in 06/85 in New York, debuting in Mexico in 1990.
– Rambo’s weekly story from his days on the road