lucha TV preview for weekend of September 7th

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Lucha Underground has the match they’ve been teasing for half the season (Rey/Matanza) and a tease for the match at the end of the season. One person on Puma’s side is an easy guess given who’s on the other side, while the other two are more random.

You probably can skip the next two weeks of AAA if you already watched TripleMania.

Down to one IWRG show for the time being.

CMLL Anniversario lineup, Niebla Roja resurfaces, AAA at Hard Rock

a photo of Niebla Roja

Hey, a CMLL Anniversario lineup

CMLL (SAT) 09/16/2017 Arena México
1) Blue Panther Jr., Stuka Jr., The Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
2) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
3) Kráneo, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
4) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis [mask]
5) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
6) Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero [mask]

CMLL, in CMLL wisdom, have put the poster out as an ad in a newspaper but have not yet released the card on their own.

To no great surprise, Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero remains the main event. Flip Gordon and Kojima, by virtue of being people the audience is unfamiliar with, are gifted semimain spots. Third match looks like Casas who’s the next legend Sam Adonis will be going after. Second match seems is a bit of a mixed bag: the NGD face more important people than usual, but not people who would necessarily be great at taking their offense. Opening should be pretty good. But, as usual, it feels like a much better card if they were intending to have a much better card. Like all CMLL big shows, this lives or dies based on people buying into the importance of the event and of the main matches. The Anniversario name will have to be the big draw because these matches will not be. I think Roja & Guerrero will do their best to put on a good match, but tickets are sold before the match happens, not after people find out how good it is.

Dragon Lee, Mistico and Soberano are the first names that come to mind about those left off the show. Niebla Roja mentioned on Informa that he thought at one point he’d face Dragon Lee on this show, so Dragon Lee went from possibility being in the main event to not being on the show. They could’ve been on here without changing anything. There’s really no reason they could’ve have had a seventh match – it’s a 5pm start, they’d still be done in plenty of time before the fight – except six matches is how they’re used to booking these things.

As mentioned above Niebla Roja was on Informa yesterday, his first public appearance in weeks. It’s a weird situation. Niebla Roja was there clearly to reassure possible ticket buyers he’d be on the Anniversario show. The problem is CMLL doesn’t acknowledge people missing dates, so they didn’t address the situation head on and the real reason he was there (and whatever reason he hasn’t been there lately) wasn’t referenced. Instead, he and JCR had a (typically useless) Informa conversation. Niebla Roja didn’t appear to be hurt, or at least was doing a good job of hiding it if he was. Niebla saying he always thought he would be in the main event of the show but the opponent changed along the way sure seems to indicate the outcome, and why it would be a bigger problem if he wasn’t ready for the match than Gran Guerrero.


Looks like Muchas Luchas (Guadalajara) has a show on 09/24, card to be announced soon.

Lucha Memes announced a 10/01 show for Coliseo Coacalco

Impact Wrestling has a video about DJZ returning to wrestle in Mexico at TripleMania.

TKD, now writing on his own blog, reviewed last night’s Lucha Underground. CultIcon also reviews last night’s Lucha Underground.

Segunda Caida reviews 08/25/17 CMLL.

Drago & Aerostar’s trip to Minnesota from last October is now up on YouTube.


CMLL (TUE) 09/12/2017 Arena México
1) Retro & Sangre Imperial vs Templario & Yago
2) La Vaquerita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Metálica
3) El Gallito & Microman vs Chamuel & Mije
4) Drone, Esfinge, Fuego vs Luciferno, Tiger, Virus
5) Dragón Lee, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Shocker

Micros on this show. Looks like the main event idea is supposed to be Casas/Shocker vs Azul/Stuka if Shocker shows up for a title match on 09/19, if Shocker can show up.

CMLL (TUE) 09/12/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Sugar & Mágico vs Difunto & Mr. Trueno
2) Astral, Robin, Star Black vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Sádico, Sangre Azteca
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Morphosis, Sagrado
4) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Gran Guerrero, Pólvora
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Kojima, Mephisto

Marco, Volador, Euforia and Kojima repeat from this week, so the singles match is in there somewhere. Niebla Roja scheduled to have what would be his first match in 29 days, but they’re also booking Morphosis so they can’t be trusted.

AAA TV (SAT) 09/23/2017 Hard Rock Hotel Riviera Maya, Playa del Carmen, Quintana Roo
1) Monsther Clown vs Murder ClownDark CuervoDark ScoriaMarty The Moth [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]
2) Súper Fly vs AvernoChessmanAustralian SuicideArgenis [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]
3) Drago vs AerostarLa ParkaMocho Cota Jr.Carta Brava Jr.  [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]
4) Texano Jr. vs Hijo del FantasmaEddie EdwardsJames StormEC3   [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal]
5) Lady Shani vs La Hiedra
6) Winner Of Match 1 vs Winner Of Match 2Winner Of Match 3Winner Of Match 4
7) Psycho Clown & Rey Escorpión vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Pagano

Air date for this looks like 10/07 & 10/14, but that’s guessing TripleMania airs for two weeks. Usual disclaimers about AAA lineups being meaningless applies, though this one has a better chance because it’s the vacation show (less pressure to do storylines) and because someone probably does have to win a golden guitar.

The Guitarra de Oro is normal Rey de Reyes but with one extra person. It’s a pointless tournament so La Parka is the early favorite. Argenis won a pointless tournament earlier so everyone really has a shot because it really doesn’t matter. Maybe some of the matches will be good? Most of them look OK.

EC3 on Twitter sounded like a man who never ever wanted to return to the country of Mexico after his experience getting home from Irapuato, but maybe they’ll talk him into a resort weekend. Eddie Edwards is currently the GHC (NOAH) Heavyweight Champion, which would normally mean he could absolutely not take a pin in this match.

Main event must be an unlisted incredible partners match because I can not imagine Rey Escorpion being a tecnico.

Lucha Underground 3×34: Career Opportunities

still my favorite camera angle


Drago beat The Mack for an Aztec Medallion (4:43, Dragon’s Tail, good)
Cortez Castro defeated Joey Ryan (13:02, fireman’s carry bomb onto riot shields, good)
Matanza beat Saltador Paul London & Mala Suerte (4:40, Wrath of the Gods on Saltador, ok)


An old issue was wrapped up, a new one was started, and a couple existing ones were made bigger, but the focus was mostly on lining up the pieces for Lucha Underground.

The big news came in a showdown between Prince Puma and Johnny Mundo. Puma was there to reveal his team for an atomicos match next week, but never got to it before Mundo interrupted. Mundo successfully baited a confident Puma into putting his mask on the line in their title match at Ultima Lucha 3. Dario put a stop to it – not because he didn’t like it, but because he already has a mask on the line (Fenix) and he didn’t want to seem like he was running out of ideas. Dario proposed putting Puma’s career on the line instead, and Puma agreed.

Dario was busy on the show. He also informed Rey of his match with Matanza next week’s, but told him to leave the building before Matanza’s match tonight. Rey didn’t like being ordered around, but relented when Dario threatened to fire Dragon Azteca if Rey didn’t bail. Matanza was in a bit more trouble than usual against the Rabbit Tribe, with the trio using confetti eggs to set up a London Shooting Star Press, but Matanza kicked out of that and destroyed them all. Rey threatened to end the Cuetos next week, but it’s hard to see how he’s going to pull that off – he holds that pin over Matanza, but only after a lot of people got in shots on Matanza.

check mate

Since Rey left, Dragon Azteca will still be with Lucha Underground to face Pentagon Dark for the final Aztec Medallion next week. Two more were given out on this show. Cortez Castro beat Joey Ryan to get one and possibly finally shut up (ex?) partner for a while. Drago won the other medallion, defeating The Mack with distraction help from Kobra Moon. The Mack attack attacked both of them post match, only for Pindar & Vibora to go after him. The Mack could use a couple of friends.

Rest of The Season guide

announced matches
episode 100 (September 13):

  • Rey Mysterio vs Matanza
  • Johnny Mundo, PJ Black, Taya, Ricky Mandel vs Prince Puma, ?, ??, ??
  • Dragon Azteca vs Pentagon Dark for the final Aztec Medallion

episode 101 (September 20):

  • nothing yet

episode 102 (September 27, Ultima Lucha Week 1)

  • nothing yet

episode 103 (October 4, Ultima Lucha Week 2)

  • Fenix vs Marty the Moth, mask vs hair

episode 104 (October 11, Ultima Lucha Week 3)

  • nothing yet

episode 105 (October 18, Ultima Lucha Week 4)

  • Johnny Mundo (c) vs Prince Puma, title versus career for the Lucha Underground championship

Matches teased but not Dario official:

  • Gift of the Gods match (Paul London, Mala Suerte, Saltador, Son of Havoc, Cortez Castro, The Mack, either Dragon Azteca or Pentagon Dark)
  • Mil Muertes vs Cage
  • Taya vs Sexy Star
  • Killshot vs Dante Fox
  • Ivelisse vs Catrina – announced at the start, not mentioned since Ivelisse was injured
  • the Mack and partners vs the Reptile Tribe for the Trios championship?
  • That Famous B/Texano thing is probably still happening

There’s things that are going to change; it’d be hard to have Ultima Lucha with Pentagon or Dragon Azteca not being involved. Matanza and Rey have a match next week but not the actual Ultima Lucha shows. Jeremiah Crane is out there as an important name who doesn’t have a spot. There were no vignettes on this show, perhaps they’ll have a bunch to start putting some of those matches down in pen next week.


Drago DDT

I didn’t get much out of this one and that was so much different than reactions I was reading that I wonder if it was me and not the show.

I think I’m least off from everyone on the Mack/Drago match, in that it’s hard not to have the same opinion on it: the few minutes they went were fine, wish they went a lot longer, another cheap distraction finish felt like the Cueto Cup was back, maybe it’s not great they didn’t go long if that was going to be the ending. The upside was they at least seemed to set up a direction for the Mack, who hasn’t had one since the Mundo matches. The Reptiles haven’t had much to do either, so it’s more just interesting figuring out who could be the Mack’s partners. He’s friends with Sexy Star, but she’s got Taya. He’s friends (or at least was at one point) with Killshot, but he’s got Dante Fox.

The Matanza/Rabbit Tribe is entirely dependent on how much time you’ve got for the Rabbit Tribe antics. I had a minimal amount of time. I was surprised how much they got on Matanza, even if it was 3 on 1. I expected them to be tossed around and destroyed impressively and quickly, and it took a while to get there. Everyone gets something in and the Rabbit Tribe had a lot of fun, but setting up a match the level of Rey/Matanza didn’t seem the right place for it – something more like Argenis/Fenix would’ve worked for me.

the spot whined about below

The police brawl played a lot more to the gimmick than last week’s biker brawl, but it felt to me like them just going from one pre-arranged scenery spot to another. Neither man is as exciting as Son of Havoc can be, but also neither man was all that much trying to win, instead just running through every cop joke spot they could think of. It felt too artificial at times, like when the riot gear guys suddenly stopped standing around the ring and got into a tight circle around Joey Ryan for no real reason (except the next spot was them getting spectacularly taken out.) I checked out around the time when a tazer shot to the groin was sold for the length of a crowd cut and was the set up for a donut toss, but it wasn’t getting me much before that. It wasn’t as fun or inventive as the Máscarita/Famous B brawl either, it just felt like stuff to me. And that’s to me – this match seemed to be way over with other people, so don’t let my disregard totally turn you away. I understand Cortez & Ryan did more and worked harder, but I still kind of enjoyed Mack & Drago more (at least up until the finish.)

The in-ring segments were fine. Except, the Dario/Rey one felt like one that was written up to be a Dario’s Office vignette, only they suddenly realized Rey wasn’t going to be available to film it so they reworked it as an in-ring skit. I have more I want to say about the main event, but not until it happens – I think I need to start writing a post about all the stuff I want to write but can’t for altering how you watch episodes. Let me just point out for context that when this was being taped (way back in early June 2016), the same stories about Ricochet leaving LU existed and this is an intentional wink at them. I may have not gotten into this episode, but I’ll at least say they had a pretty idea where they were going.

Heroes Inmortales lineup, LU, The Crash to WrestleCon

photo by CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 09/05/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Espíritu Negro & Grako b Fiero & Magia Blanca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Starman b Cancerbero, Forastero, Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Forastero replaced Arkangel
3) Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely b Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicas took 1/3
4) Misterioso Jr. b The Panther [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora b Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Johnny Idol LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3.
6) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. b Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Mr. Niebla replaced Shocker.

I didn’t see a thing from this show. Opener sounded like Fiero was back to normal. No angles at all.

I have been a bit too obsessed with the latest crazy GFW story this morning, but I assume this will have no short term affect with their relationships with AAA or The Crash in the short term. Sales or whatever else take time to happen if one is even going to happen here and they’ll probably continue working with the Mexican promotions in the meantime. AAA wrestlers continue to appear on Impact – Pagano debuts either tonight or rather soon.

WrestleCon announced The Crash will have a show in New Orleans on Friday of WrestleMania weekend. (That’s April 6th.) It’ll be their first show as part of the weekend and in the US at all. There have been attempts at an AAA or Lucha Underground or a The Crash show for years, so it’s an achievement to get it actually done. I’m figuring there will be a bunch of luchadors working shows that weekend, with CMLL wrestlers working at least the ROH shows and probably indie guys also appearing.

AAA on UDN switched to showing one hour highlights from past TripleManias with last night’s show. They aired matches from 2013 last night, which means probably the next three to finish the week and this year’s show to on Sunday. I wonder what they’ll do with 2015, since the big matches all involve people who are not working there and aren’t going back any time, but are big names.

+LuchaTV talks to Princesa Sugehit about her mask match. Here’s a thing I’m going to hide here: I have no strong feeling on who’s going to win that match. I had a strong feeling about Wagner/Psycho (and was totally wrong), and I have a strong feeling about Niebla Roja and Gran Guerrero (and may be wrong again!), but I don’t have any idea on the women’s one.

Tonight’s Lucha Underground episode is the 34th of the season, 99th overall, titled “Career Opportunities”. Matches announced on the show:

  • Cortez Castro vs Joey Ryan in a Five-O Street Fight for an Aztec Medallion (video)
  • the Rabbit Tribe vs Matanza

I believe there will be at least one more Aztec Medallion match on the show. There will also be Dario with an announcement for Rey Mysterio (recall, he hasn’t told Rey he’s facing Matazna next week) and Johnny Mundo adding something to his match Prince Puma.

CultIcon writes about the Cortez Castro/Joey Ryan feud.

The ROH London show with the Kushida/Titan match that got really strong reviews is up on ROH’s site as a $15 PPV. I think it’s up on NJPW World too, but only for people with Japanese IPs.

Puma King will be back on Powerbomb.TV as part of their 10/22 show, facing John Silver.

This week’s Zona Ruda has Dragon Solar & Ashley on as guests.

CMLL writes up Octagon’s debut. He’s on Informa today.

Gran Kenut & Leon Blanco won the Pacific Coast tag team titles.

The Gladiatores has interview with Eterno, Bombero Infernal, and Demonio Infernal following the hair match.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

The newest edition of Lucha Talk is up.


AAA TV (SUN) 10/01/2017 Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosi
1) Johnny Mundo © vs Máscara de BronceVenumLanzelothHijo Del VikingoSolarisDragón SolarHijo Del Villano IIIAngelikalTiger Boy [AAA CRUISER]
fourth defense
2) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker [AAA TRIOS]
final match of five match series
3) Johnny Mundo © vs La ParkaRey WagnerRey EscorpiónPimpinela EscarlataHernandezPsicosisMambaMurder ClownDark CuervoEddie EdwardsMonsther ClownEC3Estrella DivinaHisteriaMarty MartinezDinastíaDave The Clown [AAA LA]
sixth defense
4) Texano Jr. vs Hijo del FantasmaJohnny MundoKevin Kross [AAA HEAVY]
sixth defense
5) Argenis, La Parka Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly [domed cage]
6) El Mesías vs PaganoJoe Lider [death match]

Looks like I talked about this lineup but didn’t post it. We already know the original one was wrong, but it might be simple as a typo since Parka is already listed in the Latin American mess. I’m guessing this lineup was mostly figured out before TripleMania, but they’ve got large group matches all over the place after the large group match at TripleMania was a mess, and Mesias & Pagano main eventing after the TripleMania match was not any good. And I’m really not sure why Texano & Hijo del Fantasma needed to club each other in the head if they’re just doing a four way again.

WWE tropes, which seem heavily in play here, would suggest Mundo either keeps all three titles or loses all three titles, nothing in between. (It would be to AAA’s benefit to play up the idea Mundo’s leaving after this show.) Maybe Mascara de Bronce, La Parka and Kross as new champs? Dinasita being involved with Marty and in the Latin American division might be the promotion out of the near dead minis division we’ve hoped for. Guessing Ricky taking the loss in the cage match.

AAA in Irapuato, AAA in Univision Deportes, Octagon returns to CMLL with a win

this happened

AAA TV (MON) 09/04/2017 Palenque Inforum, Irapuato, Guanajuato [AAA]
1) Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Solaris b Ángel Mortal Jr., Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr.
Siad to be a great match. After the match, Pagano came to the ring and said everyone would see the real Pagano at Heroes Inmortales. A Pagano, Joe Lider and Mesias death match was announced for Heroes Inmortales
2) Lady Shani b Big MamiAyako HamadaFaby ApacheLa Hiedra [#1 Contenders, Reina De Reinas]
AAA declared the Reina de Reinas title was vacant before the match. Shani won a spot in the title match at Heroes Inmortaes (which suggests another challenger has been determined, or maybe will be decided in Hard Rock.)
3) Mini Psycho Clown © b Dinastía [AAA MINI]
Dinastia had the win but Marty got involved to help fellow clown Mini Psycho win via foul.
4) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker b Aerostar, Drago, Raptor
Poder del Norte tied the series 2-2, with the final at Heroes Inmortales.
5) Eli Drake © b Máscara de Bronce [GFW GLOBAL]
Mascara de Bronce challenged for a shot, lost.
6) Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly DQ Argenis, Lanzeloth, Ricky Marvin
bloody match. Super Fly tricked the referee into believing Ricky Marvin used a chair (and that was a DQ this night.) Vampiro set up a domed cage match for Heroes Inmortales for this six people, loser loses hair or mask.
7) EC3 & James Storm b Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr.
Fantasma & Texano couldn’t get along.
8) Dr. Wagner Jr. b Psycho ClownRey Escorpión
Psycho & Wagner started the show by talking about a rematch before Escorpion added himself to the match. Rey Escorpion fouled Psycho Clown and Wagner grabbed the pin. Kevin Kross attacked Psycho & Wagner after the match.

This taping looks like it’ll air on 09/23 and 09/30, but I’m just guessing at TripleMania being two weeks and no one’s said anything.

AAA’s only statement on the Sexy Star situation is mentioning the Reina de Reinas title is vacant. AAA’s wrestlers and staff have spent all night and morning stuck in buses due an accident on the highway, so it’s possible they might be planning to say more once they’re back in their offices. On the other hand, they’ve had more than a week to say something or simply decide what they were going to say when this came up, and “the title is vacant” is all they came up with. It took them a lot less time to figure out what they were going to say when they were taking this same title away from Taya.

Taking the title away from Sexy Star is a good thing, but it also feel like the minimum possible thing. AAA isn’t condemning her actions, they’re not disputing her version of events, they’re not making her apologize or apologizing for her, they’re not saying they won’t work with Sexy Star again, and they’re not promising to treating fellow wrestlers with a bit more respect. Sexy Star, like a lot of people in lucha libre, take championships far more seriously than they should. Taking the title belt away from her probably will hurt her, but she’ll also probably just walk around telling everyone she’s the real champ because that’s what she’s done the last two times she’s lost a championship without taking a pinfall. The next champion was almost certainly going to be “vacant”, with something like with The Crash title (Sexy works an injury so she’s eliminated without being pinned) being the best possible scenario. It’s good AAA seems to be disassociating themselves from Sexy Star, because anything less than this would’ve been endorsing her actions, but this as the total statement is underwhelming.

aside 1: and because AAA’s chosen to leave Sexy Star’s claims unanswered, they’re actually getting a fair bit of criticism from people who believe Sexy Star is in the right and is being unfairly maligned. Sexy Star is a popular and uplifting celebrity, so no amount of explaining is going to change the minds of some people who are deadset in believing it was a work (it was definitely not a work) or that Rosemary wasn’t really hurt (she definitely was hurt), but AAA’s decision to say nothing means they’re getting it from both sides today.

aside 2: I’m assuming Sexy Star has been stripped of the title but AAA doesn’t actually say that. It could be that she quit AAA again first, but I wouldn’t think AAA would strip her of the title if they were trying to still work with her. Shani winning the #1 contender’s shot too suggests AAA’s picked a side.)

AAA was interesting in talking about Heroes Inmortales, quickly setting up matches for that show. The local promoter for this show in Irapuato is also the local promoter in San Luis Potosi for Heroes Inmortales, and they released that lineup Sunday night before the matches were actually made on. That seems like it exposes the business more than talking about why Sexy Star’s armbar actual injuring Rosemary was a bad thing but whatever. Also, it’s AAA so the matches have already been changed.

Marty seems to be assembling all the Clowns for something. Pagano’s line about seeing his true colors leaves open the possibility he might be getting back involved with them too. The bigger news is AAA finally appears to have something for Dinastia. There’s no reason for Joe Lider to be in that match, nor did they really try to come up with one, it’s just about Joe Lider being willing to do some dumb stuff so that’s the match for him.

There’s not hint about who Shani will face. It’d be hilarious if it was Taya, but that seems unlikely. Maybe GFW could send someone, but maybe not given that’s how AAA is in that spot now anyway. (Rosemary vs Shani would also be hilarious.) Kobra Moon/Thunder Rosa has worked for AAA in Tijuana, maybe she could be brought in. It is possible AAA hasn’t worked this out yet and it’ll be one of the people who lost the #1 contenders match. It is noticeable this #1 contenders bit has come up multiple times in the last few months and Faby Apache never wins and never is involved in the title match, which would’ve been a certainty in past years.

AAA’s first show on Univison Deportes aired last night. If you didn’t see it, you didn’t miss a lot – they’re assuming people are coming in at a really low level of knowledge and had to be explained the basics about lucha libre and AAA before they do any more. It was mostly Univision Deportes hosts asking setting up brief questions and cutting to snippets of interviews with Psycho Clown, La Parka, Texano, Fantasma and Faby Apache explaining things along side footage from past TripleManias. The interviews must’ve been done a long time ago, because they also included Marisela, Dorian and Joaquin Roldan – the onscreen graphic noted Joaquin had passed away but it otherwise didn’t seem touched on. These one hour shows will air all week until airing a one hour version of TripleMania, explaining more about AAA as they go along. Univision Deportes being involved in producing the shows seems like a good sign for them being interested enough to pick up the show full time. It’ll probably be more on AAA delivering the show to them, which seems to have been a problem with the other international stuff they’ve done.

CMLL (MON) 09/04/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, CultIconNotimex]
1) Black Tiger, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr. b El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico b Asturiano, París, Último Dragóncito LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Paris replaced Astro.
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys b Ángel de Oro, Drone, Soberano Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Sam Adonis b Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, ValienteLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Mistico, Octagón, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 4  DE SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)

Octagon tried to put in a good first impression by trying, but wasn’t any good (and shouldn’t have been expected to be.) Octagon submitted UG for the win was astounding but I guess they didn’t give themselves any better options – Gran Guererro would be a worse choice and they they’re probably setting up something with Kojima.

Niebla Roja wasn’t on the show, isn’t on any show, but was announced for CMLL Informa. Good to know he’s alive at least.

Today’s CMLL show has a Diamante Azul, Caristico, Stuka versus Negro Casas, Shocker, and Terrible as the main event. Negro Casas & Shocker are the current CMLL tag team champions and yet this will be the first time they’ve been programmed together as a team in CMLL and made it to the match. (They teamed back in June when they were both subs.) Haha no, the preview actually lists Mr. Niebla replacing Shocker tonight. That team is cursed.

The semimain has Blue Panther, Angel de Oro and Johnny Idol vs Hechicero, Dragon Rojo and Polvora. The Panther faces Misterioso in the lightning match. The rest of the card has a women’s match, a usual second match, and Fiero returning from near death last year in the opener.

10/21 Lucha Libre y Pasion in Arena San Juan

IWRG says they won’t be running any Wednesday shows this month.

Silver King says Dr. Wagner should’ve fought harder to keep his mask, isn’t the international star he is. They’re not close right now.

LuchaWorld has the week’s Poster-Mania.

A new lucha libre museum is opening in Puebla.

Mexico state luchadora Miss Coral talks about women’s wrestling.


IWRG (SUN) 09/10/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Fly Tiger vs Power Bull
2) Demonio Infernal & Látigo vs Lunatic Xtreme & Skanda
3) Chico Che vs RafyToxinTackleSúper Brazo Jr.
4) Aramis, Bombero Infernal, Emperador Azteca vs Gallo Frances, Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera
5) Herodes Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 Jr. vs Black Warrior & Warrior Jr.
6) Imposible, Villano III Jr., Villano V Jr. vs Eterno, Súper Mega, Trauma II

Imposible and Villano III are feuding and teammates.

CMLL (MON) 09/11/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja, Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer vs Ares, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana
2) Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Canelo Casas, Disturbio, Espanto Jr.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Vangellys
4) Ángel de Oro, Kráneo, Valiente vs Cavernario, Diamante Azul, Felino [Relevos Increíbles]
5) Carístico, Octagón, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Kojima, Negro Casas

Main event feels like they were meant to have started a program last night and forgot. Not sure why the semimain is what it is.

I wonder if it’s a coincidence Octagon is getting booked in the building Tirnates seems to be running, since he’d know Octagon more recently than anyone else in AAA.

new lucha videos for the weekend of September 1st, 2017

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-09-02
taped 2017-08-29 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara – YouTube/Mega
1) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
2) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Sam Adonis vs Shocker, Terrible, Vangellys
3) Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Juice Robinson, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-09-02
taped 2017-08-25 @ Arena México – Mega
1) Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario in a lightning match
2) La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, La Comandante, Zeuxis
3) Diamante Azul, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. vs Juice Robinson, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin in a relevos increíbles match

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-09-02
taped 2017-08-30 @ Arena Naucalpan – YouTube/Mega
1) Celestial Boy & Vórtize vs Demonio Infernal & Toxin
2) Alas de Acero & Aramis vs Glenn Calavera & Jerry Calavera
3) Diablo Jr., Freelance, Golden Magic vs Fulgor I, Fulgor II, Mr. Leo
4) Dragón Fly, Emperador Azteca, Imposible vs Arez, Fly Warrior, Séptimo Rayo

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-09-04
taped 2017-09-03 @ Arena Naucalpan – YouTube/Mega
1) Demonio Infernal vs Lunatic Xtreme in a super libre match
2) Villano III Jr. vs Imposible
3) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. vs Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
4) Bombero Infernal vs Eterno for the hair

Octagon returns to CMLL, Sexy Star issues long non-apology, Eterno shaves Bombero

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 09/03/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)Estrellas del RingThe Gladiatores]
1) Fly Tiger b Guerrero 2000
2) Power Bull & Skanda b Ángel Oriental & Celestial Boy
3) Lunatic Xtreme DQ Demonio Infernal [super libre]
Demonio was DQed in what was advertised as a super libre match. They set up another one.
4) Gallo Frances, Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera b Aramis, Dragón Fly, Freelance
Dragon Fly replaced Hijo del Alebrije.
5) Imposible b Villano III Jr.
Villano III asked for a title shot despite losing.
6) Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. b Black Terry & Diablo Jr. [IWRG IC TAG]
Terry & Diablo fall on their 3rd defense. Warriors are new champs.
7) Eterno b Bombero Infernal [hair]

Eterno & Bombero seems as bloody as you’d expected.

Octagon returns to CMLL tonight in Arena Puebla. CMLL’s finally acknowledged it with an update; they note people didn’t believe this was true. That’s caused a little bit by CMLL not really talking about Octagon until now; he wasn’t mentioned on Informa, he wasn’t sent out for interviews, he hasn’t on any other shows. By the standards of a star returning to the company for the first time in 25 years, this has been handled strangely – it makes me wonder if there’s a chance this is just some sort of trial run before CMLL goes all in on Octagon. I dunno.

Octagon teams with Mistico & Volador to face Ultimo Guerrero, Gran Guerrero and Kojima. It’s the only notable thing on a pretty blah card. Sam Adonis & Blue Panther revisit their rivalry with Johnny Idol, Valiente, Cavenario and Mr. Niebla. Angel de Oro, Drone, and Soberano Jr. face Dragon Rojo Jr., Polvora, and Vangellys. Astro, Asturiano and Ultimo Dragoncito take on Joker, Pequeno NItro and Pequeno Olimpico in what looks like it might be the best match of the night. The all local opener includes Black Tiger, Lestat, Tigre Rojo, Malayo, Fuerza Chicano and Guerrero Espacial.

Sexy Star posted a statement on her Twitter, arguing that Rosemary never had paramedics attending to her or medical work done on her, so she could not have been actually injured, so everyone’s just bullying Sexy Star but she’s brave and she’ll stand up to everyone. I talked to people who were backstage at TripleMania, and that was a real injury. That statement GFW put out about how Sexy Star and AAA had apologized is funnier by the day, because Sexy Star is the farthest thing from apologetic and, if AAA has actually punished her at all, it doesn’t seem to have any affect on her.

LA Park accused Dr. Wagner of losing his credibility by losing his mask to Psycho Clown.

The Crash says their 11/03 Guadalajara show will be at Plaza de Toros Nuevo Progreso.

AAA returning to US TV, The Crash mask match, Hechicero beats Kojima

CMLL (SAT) 09/02/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Demasiado b Kairos
Debuts for both, who are said to be training in CMLL’s school.
2) Warrior Steel & Yago b Príncipe Diamante & Sensei
rudos took 1/3
3) La Vaquerita, Lady Maravilla, Skadi b La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany
Tenicas took 1/3. Skadi replacing Sanely.
4) Blue Panther b Vangellys [lightning]
5) Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Titán b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
tecnicos took 1/3
6) Carístico, Kenny King, Valiente DQ Kojima, Shocker, Terrible
tecnicos took 1/3. Terrible fouled Caristico.

I guess we know if Demsiado & Kairos (Jr.?) passed their test if they get used again.

The Crash (SAT) 09/02/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [@jorgeGCRR, 126f, The Crash]
1) Jonathan, Kamik-C, Sombra De Plata b Mirage, Skalibur, Viento
2) Desi Derata & Dezmond Xavier b Keyra & Laredo Kid
3) Homicide b Último NinjaEli Everfly
Homicide replaced Low Ki (quit GFW.)
4) Jack Evans b Bestia 666 [super libre]
Garza seconded Bestia. Jack brought Damian to counter. Pierroth tried to help Bestia win but failed. Pierroth and Damian had words post match. Konnan made Jack & Bestia sign their hair match contract for 11/04, and then tell Pierroth to get in a match and not just interfere.
5) Ortiz & Santana b Dave Crist & Jake Crist and Arkángel Divino & Black Boy and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Último Maldito [GFW TAG]
LAX beat Black Boy
6) Carlito & Daga b La Máscara & Pierroth and Garza Jr. & M-ximo
Pierroth replaced La Mascara. Worked as 4 vs Carlito & Daga, then Mascara & Maximo attacked Garza. Daga pinned Pierroth after Maximo kissed him by mistake. Damian attacked Pierroth after the match, then Mascara & Pierroth attacked M-ximo (kicking him out of the group to get back to a trio.) Daga and Garza exchanged challenges, with Garza calling Daga “steriod body” and Daga wanting a singles match next week.
7) Black Danger b Oráculo [mask]
Black Danger won with a piledriver, and joined Garza’s group. Oraculo was unmasked as Jose Rios, from Aguas Buenas, Puerto Rico, 10 years a wrestler.

Oraculo is also known as Jay Rios. If you’re following the Mae Young Classic, you’ve probably seen Mia Yim, and Yim talking about surviving domestic abuse. She never mentions the boyfriend’s name, but it’s widely understood to be Jay Rios. He’s confirmed he’s the person be mentioned, while denying the actual charges. I can’t claim to know exactly what happened, but I’m aware what tends to be the truth in these situations. It’s normally frustrating to follow The Crash, mostly about watching handhelds with people’s heads floating into frame. Oraculo being used here is frustrating in a entirely different way, and I’m happy that, should I ever get to it, I won’t be paying him or The Crash a single dollar for his mask loss.

The factions in the Crash appear to be

Rebellion RED: Pentagon, Fenix, Daga, Rey Mysterio, maybe Damian
Rebellion YELLOW: Garza, Bestia 666, Ultimo Ninja, Black Taurus, Black Boy
Ingobernables: Rush, La Mascara, Pierroth
tecnicos: Jack Evans, Mximo, other people

Matches 3&4 may turn up (as highlight packages) on Impact.

The Crash announced Rush vs Brian Cage for 09/07.

CMLL (SUN) 09/03/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Bengala & Flyer b Artillero & Espanto Jr.
2) Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito b Acero, Fantasy, Último Dragóncito
Fantasy replaced Stukita
3) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Felino, Luciferno, Puma
Puma replaced Ephesto. Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Marco Corleone, Mistico, Valiente b Gran Guerrero, Kráneo, Mr. Niebla
Tecnicos took 2/3. Valiente replaced the still missing Niebla Roja.
5) Diamante Azul, Kenny King, Volador Jr. DQ Kojima, Pierroth, Rush
tecnicos took 2/3. Kojima fouled Volador.

What do you think CMLL acknowledges first: Niebla Roja not wrestling on their shows or Octagon wrestling on their shows?

(In “this probably doesn’t meant anything BUT” news, Lucha Azteca has skipped airing the Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero match the last two weeks.)

Lucha Memes (SUN) 09/03/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV]
1) Judas el Traidor b Avisman
2) Silueta b Quetzal
3) Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid
2 v 3. Great match.
4) Hechicero b Kojima
Mima Shimoda seconded Kojima.
5) Makabre b Keyra
hard hitting match. Keyra was injured before the finish.
6) Virus b Aeroboy
good match

There’s no mention of how Hechicero/Kojima went, but at least Hechicero can say he got that win. The 2v3 match seems to have gotten the most praise.

AAA returns to US TV for the first time since June 4, 2011 on Monday. They’ll be airing on Univision Deportes every weeknight this week at 8pm CT with one hour introduction to AAA shows. TripleMania will air on the network at 10pm CT on Sunday. All shows are one hour. The weekday episodes are listed as “Lucha Libre AAA”, the Sunday show is just “TripleMania.” AAA had mentioned TripleMania would air on a Univison network back during the TripleMania press conference, but never had announced a date. There’s no mention on what exactly will air, except the broad idea that the weekday episodes are introduction shows. A one hour TripleMania broadcast probably means it’s just the Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner match, and the weekday stuff will probably build towards that.

AAA repeats on Univison Deportes in Mexico. It must be doing well given how often they show it and how they added the Zona Ruda companion show. That probably opened up a chance here: AAA’s US TV rights are still believed to be owned by Univision, and they’ve bee stuck without a home since Galavision got rid of them and all lucha libre programming. Probably doing well in the Mexico equivalent of this network got AAA this chance, and they’d be hoping this trial run is received well enough to get their TV show(s) a regular spot.

This move, like AAA-friendly Lucha Underground wrestlers working in GFW, is a sign that AAA is ready to move on from LU. The original idea was LU was going to be the only AAA in the US, and that’s obviously changed. AAA does not control the fate of Lucha Underground That appears to be in other people’s hands, and all AAA really can do is prepare for the possibility of LU not being around. It’d be nice if the same freedom to prepare for an uncertain future was extended to the wrestlers.

Hijo del Fantasma says he wants an apuesta match with Texano. Guess he saw that Wagner payoff. Hijo del Fatnasma says he has a bull terrier match with Texano on Monday. AAA is currently advertising a singles match with them, but not a bull terrier match. AAA & Vampiro have said a lot about how they have to put out those lineups in advance, and they’re changing them to make them better for the fans. I find it kind of garbage, but whatever, I’ll accept that garbage. Maybe AAA can’t put on accurate lineup six weeks in advance and the local promoters won’t just let them list talent appearing on the show. But, it’s not six weeks in advance now, it’s about 24 hours before the show. AAA by now has a lineup of matches that’ll actually take place – they’ve clearly told Fantasma his match. It exists: it’s probably printed out in someone’s office, it’s likely sitting in a folder on a bus going to Irapuato, it’s surely shared in a Whatsapp group chat. If it’s truly a better lineup for the fans, why is the correct lineup not being advertised? Why continue to sell tickets to fans tomorrow based on matches you know which may not be correct? This strategy hasn’t helped AAA at all, people not trusting AAA is probably a contributing reason to TripleMania didn’t draw as well as hoped, but there’s an unwillingness to learn from mistakes. If all it takes is one post on Facebook to help the trust you have with your fans, that doesn’t seem like a high price.

EC3, Eli Drake and James Storm are in AAA for the show. The idea of outside guys is to sell tickets and make your group feel like a bigger deal for having them.

AAA posted this week’s TV show. Angelico actually made TV!

Sensacional de Luchadores interviews Aero Boy about the start of DTU.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.


CMLL (SAT) 09/09/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Pegasso, Robin, Sensei vs Disturbio, George Kebrada, Sangre Azteca
3) Zeuxis vs Skadi [lightning]
4) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Nitro, Sagrado
5) Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Felino, Forastero, Sansón
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Diamante Azul vs Kojima, Mephisto, Mr. Niebla

George Kebrada is probably Jorge Quebrada, who seemed originally based in Arena Aficion before wrestling a little bit in Puebla this year. He’s only really wrestled a little bit in total this year, maybe spending his time in the CMLL gym instead. He’s shown up in FILL’s ciberneticos a couple times: he’s the unmasked guy here. My recollection is he does either an amateur or MMA style gimmick.

Terrible fouling Caristico goes nowhere. Niebla Roja is MIA and CMLL is sending Zeuxis into a match with The Crippler Skadi, that’s really brave or maybe a little foolish.

CMLL (SUN) 09/10/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Sangre Imperial vs El Coyote & Templario
2) Eléctrico, Fantasy, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
3) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Hechicero, Pólvora, Sagrado
4) Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Kojima, Negro Casas

they’re setting up Kojima/Volador for 09/17 on the show that doesn’t air any where.

CMLL (SUN) 09/10/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Amperaje & Micro vs Destello & Destructor
2) Cosmos, El Alteño, Tigre Blanco vs Carlo Roggi, Linterna, Relámpago Azul
3) Explosivo, Metatrón, Neutrón vs Difunto, Espectrúm, Joker
4) Omar Brunetti, Rielero, Vaquero Jr. vs Frezzer, Furia Roja, Maléfico
5) Star Black vs Exterminador [mask, hair]

well, Exterminador isn’t winning that

indy (SUN) 10/15/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México
1) Forastero vs Demonio BaltazarKaitoKarazuHazielGenio RojoRotterdamWallrusDinamic KingPoder GuerreroChicago RushArkonte
2) Adriano & Siniestro vs León Tatuado & The King Fire
3) Blue Panther Jr. & Virus vs Nitro & Sangre Azteca and Iron Love & Judas el Traidor and Jeque & Tony Rivera
4) Aramis vs ImpulsoWotanArezBelialJuana La LocaGoldenAeronixKalibusBlack Out [hair, mask]
5) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, La Seductora, Reina Isis
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Euforia, Último Guerrero vs El Golpeador, Negro Navarro, Súper Crazy
7) Daga vs Magnífico vs Eterno

The 20th anniversary show for the promotion sees former students Daga & Eterno return back for the main event. Reina Isis is also back by this point.

Diamante Azul wins Gran Prix, mask match in The Crash tonight


CMLL (FRI) 09/01/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CulticonPublimetroSuperLuchasthecubsfan]
1) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther b Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
20:02. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta
9:33. Rudas took 1/3. Zeuxis ripped up Sugehit’s mask after the first fall, Sugehit ripped up Zeuxis’ mask at the second fall. Neither waas involved in the finish.
3) Carístico, Mistico, Soberano Jr. b Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
10:37. Great.
4) Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Euforia, Mephisto, Rush, Último Guerrero, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Kenny King, Kojima, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin, Sam Adonis [Gran Prix]
54:17. Eliminations: Johnny Idol (via Dragon Lee), Sam Adonis (Volador), Euforia (Kenny King), Mephisto (Matt Taven), Marco Corleone (Rush), Dragon Lee (Juice Robinson), Kenny King (Valiente), Rush (DQ for attacking the ref), Matt Taven (Ultimo Guerrero), Valiente (Kojima), Juice Robinson (Volador), Volador (Elgin), Kojima (Ultimo Guerrero), Ultimo Guerrero (Elgin), Elign (Diamante Azul) leaving Diamante Azul as the winner.

Michael Elgin talked post match, and said that Diamante Azul was the rightful winner. Elgin looked like the best guy in the match, but the finish was done well enough that it was still OK.

It sounds like Matt Taven is OK. I have no idea how Matt Taven is OK after the middle rope Devil’s Wings went very wrong. It looked like he got driven right on his neck, and you could see everyone freak out when it happened – Tirantes looks like he was going to rush the ring to stop the match. Taven could see him talking to the doctors in the front row briefly after he got out.

Taven, Robinson and Elgin are headed home (though not for long before they’re back in their home promotions.) Kenny King appears to be around for just the weekend, and Kojima looks like he’s around until 09/16.

CMLL’s promo for the 09/16 show featured the two mask matches on equal footing. Meanwhile, Niebla Roja is mentioned in the video promo for next week, but is not on the actual card. Those promos are done about 9 days in advance, this one would’ve been done on the Wednesday prior to Niebla Roja starting to miss shows. There’s not much of a hint of what’s going on, and I don’t think most of the fanbase has even picked up that Niebla Roja is MIA yet, so it’s not like this is in danger of hurting ticket sales any more than the lineup is. +LuchaTV having an interview with Gran Guerrero, but not one with Niebla Roja, makes me think it’s not an injury, but that Niebla Roja is just out of town unexpectedly for whatever reason and will be back by 09/16. I’d still be amazed if the match didn’t happen, but it at least makes Friday interesting to see if they pull something else.

Shows this weekend


  • The Crash is in Tijuana, with the Oraculo vs Black Danger in a mask match. Local Black Danger is the favorite. The actual main event is Carlito & Daga vs Mascara & Escorpion (maybe) & Garza Jr. & Maximo. There’s a GFW tag team title match, with LAX (Ortiz & Santana), OVE (Dave & Jake Crist), Arkangel Divino & Black Boy, and Hijo del Pirata Morgan & Ultimo Maldito. Arkangel and Ultimo doing their spot should turn up on Impact. Bestia and Jack Evans have a super libre match to set up their hair match two months from now. There’s a bunch of people advertised who don’t have a match, and Homicide is apparently coming instead of Low Ki.
  • Coliseo has Caristico, Kenny King, and Valiente vs Kojima, Shocker and Terrible. They had Valiente & Kojima work a bit in the Gran Prix. This show also has the odd Kairos vs Demasiado opener.
  • Arena Lopez Mateos has a one night reunion of the Psycho Circus versus Dr. Wagner, Joe Lider & Patano.
  • Arena Neza has Hijo de LA Park & LA Park vs Dragon Lee & Rush.


On his Facebook, Vampiro mentions his return to the ring on Thursday. That’s a show in Aguascalientes, where he’s listed in a trios match. Vampiro mentions AAA does not want him to wrestle, but he feels he needs to as an executive he feels he has to, because that’s an usual belief. Vampiro guesses it’s been 7 years since he’s wrestled in Mexico; it’s more like 3.

Lucha Underground has an interview with Cortez Castro.

Psycho Clown has no problem taking HIjo de Dr. Wagner’s mask too.


CMLL (FRI) 09/08/2017 Arena México
1) Astral & Oro Jr. vs Akuma & Canelo Casas
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
3) Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis
4) Titán vs Rey Bucanero [lightning]
5) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Pierroth, Rush
6) Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Cavernario & Negro Casas teaming with Adonis is odd seeing how that ended last time. Lots of matches could be good here, maybe just not the opener.

DTU (SUN) 09/24/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Billy & Irving vs Erwing & The Black
2) Toto vs DroluxHard Boy
3) El Gio & El Junior vs D-Polux Jr. & Kingston
4) Ktb vs Crazy BoyHormigaCorsario Negro Jr.Príncipe CometaCobreBlack FireMoiraMr. InvisibleÁngel o Demonio
5) Camufljae, Lokillo, Mr. Águila vs Kastigador, Neza Kid, Vengador
6) Flamita vs Trey MiguelDrastik BoyPardux
7) Halloween & Sharlie Rockstar vs Ovett & Shlak and Crazy King & Demus 3:16

This is in Arena San Juan, so it’ll surely turn up on handhelds if not any way, and I really want to see that semimain.

CMLL on 2017-09-01 


Dragon Lee and Michael Elgin

Recapped: 09/01/2017


Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón beat Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther
(20:02 [7:50, 2:27, 9:45], 1/3, ok)

Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis beat Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta
(9:33 [2:05, 2:14, 5:14], 1/3, ok)

Carístico, Mistico, Soberano Jr. beat Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
(10:37 [1:33, 2:57, 6:07], 2/3, great)

Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Euforia, Mephisto, Rush, Último Guerrero, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Kenny King, Kojima, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin, Sam Adonis in a CMLL Gran Prix Tournament match
Arena México, 09/01/2017

  1. Dragon Lee Spanish Fly Johnny Idol (12:03)
  2. Volador top rope frankensteiner Sam Adonis (15:58)
  3. Kenny King springboard blockbuster Euforia (21:17)
  4. Matt Taven frog splash Mephisto (25:28)
  5. Rush corner dropkick Marco (28:27)
  6. Juice Robinson Pulp Friction Dragon Lee (31:08)
  7. Valiente Indian Deathlock Kenny King (32:17)
  8. DQ Rush (33:49)
  9. Ulitmo Guerrero Guerrero Special Matt Taven (36:04)
  10. Kojima lariat Valiente (36:49)
  11. Volador backcacker Juice Robinson (40:14)
  12. Michael Elgin bottom rope Falcon arrow Volador (41:52)
  13. Pulpo Guerrero on Kojima (44:12)
  14. Michael Elgin crucifix powerbomb Último Guerrero (46:53)
  15. Diamante Azul German suplex Michael Elgin (54:17)

What Happened:

Sanson gives The Panther a wild ride

The Gran Prix aired on iPPV. This was a little more buffering compared to the normal CMLL shows and the feed briefly went out at the start of the Gran Prix, but it was generally a satisfactory streaming experience.

he lived???

Matt Taven landed horrifically on a middle rope move with Mephisto. Mephisto seemed to think it was a Devil’s Wings and Taven turned over as if for a powerbomb, but mostly landed neck first. Everyone was obviously concerned and Taven seemed dazed at the moment, but rolled out, talked to the doctors, and continued on to take (designed) big painful moves later on. Volador seemed to kick out before the three count from Elgin. Edgar was very definite that he was eliminated. Rush got himself eliminated, like usual.

Zeuxis ripped up Sugehit’s mask in the first fall. Sugehit unmasked and ripped up Zeuxis’ mask. Neither were involved in the third fall finish. A promo for the 09/16 presents the Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero and Zeuxis & Princesa Sugehit match as two matches on the same level, and CMLL’s account retweeted a message saying the women should be in the main event. (I still don’t think it’s happening, but the people marketing the shows at least are aware of the conversation.)


I couldn’t figure out what grade to put this match, so I looked back at what I gave last year and decided this was close enough. I thought the Mexico vs the World bit actually came thru stronger last year, but there were more impressive individual performances. Michael Elgin completely stole the match, from his opening cartwheel out of a Volador headscissors to making Diamante Azul look impressive at the finish. His sequence with Dragon Lee was outstanding and I really want to see that match. Elgin has delivered in both tours he’s been in Mexico and is going to be a big star for CMLL every time he comes in. Taven should get a lot of credit for surviving and continuing to take even more crazy stuff. I’m reluctant to give Diamante Azul too much credit, but they did set up a lot moments for him to look like a powerhouse and he delivered on them. The German suplex came off big. Kenny King looked very good in his opening run with Dragon Lee, and less good with Euforia later. Kojima didn’t have a big influence on the match but what he did generally looked good and it was surprising to see him take the powerbomb. Idol out first was no surprise, but Adonis going out quick without being much part of this was a definite bit. This remains a fun concept which should continue as long as CMLL’s alliances are strong.

live how did he clear the ropes

The semimain was really short by these standards – they were clearly worried about time by this point – but they squeezed in a lot of impressive técnico stuff for the expected showcase. Anything that cut must’ve been for the rudos, but they still contributing to a clean feeling match. Each of the técnicos got a short fun exchange with Negro Casas, who made it feel like a big deal each time. Soberano’s tornillo was out of this world, not sure I’ve seen anyone do it just like he did it. The Cavernario spear into the spot is not new, but Mistico doing a flip to set it felt innovative and set up his offense well. There’s a better match here, which maybe we’ll see at some point, but there was enough interesting stuff to make it worthwhile.

The women had another solid match, with Sugehit & Zeuxis both ripping up mask and also doing a fair bit more in the ring. The crowd wasn’t into this a great amount (just Negro Casas showing up got a noticeably large attention), but they were respectful for sure. Dalys didn’t look good, feeling someone more performing as a wrestler than someone fighting. She also got the top rope snap back at her, which can’t be fun. Silueta’s double jump headscissors was nice.

double dives for all brothers

Disappointingly slow speed match, with the older men getting much of the spotlight and the early potions of the match seemingly worked around what they could do instead of the younger guys. They weren’t shut out, but it wasn’t the blowout match for a big show most of the way. The last few minutes did pick up the action a bit, but it felt like a lot of stuff around Blue Sr. & Mascara 2000. That’s a not great matchup and they weren’t as over as usual until Panther did his dive. The Panther standing in the path of his father’s tope didn’t really make any sense, but I guess it’s how they wanted to set up eliminations. Those eliminations were good and the last few minutes of the match were the best, just needed more before it.

Zeuxis tope