CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-08-16

recap

taped 2014-08-12 @ Arena México
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09/26 AAA TV Lineup (Zumpango)

AAA TV (FRI) 09/26/2014 Domo Deportivo Noe Hernandez, Zumpango, Estado de México
1) Niño Hamburguesa, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Carta Brava Jr., Mamba, Mini Charly Manson
2) Australian Suicide & Faby Apache vs Eterno & Sexy Star
3) Aerostar vs Hijo del Fantasma © [AAA CRUISER]
first defense for Fantasma
4) Angélico & Jack Evans vs Averno & Chessman
5) Bengala, Blue Demon, Fénix vs Daga, Pentagón Jr., Villano IV
6) Myzteziz & Psycho Clown vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo & Texano

Air date: 10/03 and 10/10?

The missing taping with the missing Aerostar match! Everything is coming together…except Fenix and Pentagon are off at least episode five of Lucha Underground.

If anything is going to happen for Heroes Inmortales, it should happen here. That may just end up a Alberto returns to SLP celebration.

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Lucha Underground Day 3/Day 4 tapings

LU (SAT) 09/13/2014 Lucha Underground Arena, Boyle Heights, Los Angeles, California

1) Hijo del Fantasma COR Martin Causas
Dark match, stopped early when Martin’s head hit the floor and split open. Vampiro and paramedics checked on him, but Martin indicated it was not as bad as it looked
2) Carnitas b Mariachi Loco
Carnitas is (maybe?) a new name for Mascarita Sagrada (original), who was wearing his normal outfit. Chavo Guerrero attacked the mini after the match.
3) Mil Muertes b Ricky Mandell
Muertes is seconded by Kartina (ex-Maxine) for his matches
4) Fenix (AAA) b Pentagón Jr., Drago (AAA)
best match so far of the taping

There’s obvious and definite push back against complaints thispromotion wasn’t lucha libre enough by putting the three (now free to work!) luchadors together in the main event. Everyone wins, since it was said to be an awesome match. Less obviously, there’s a lot less Chavo Guerrero Jr. – that run in is his only appearance on these tapings. (Though, unless they’re editing things around after the fact, Chavo as a rudo seems to mean there’s no chance this will be reworked into the first taping, so there’s a good chance of deja vu when other people watch those first two tapings and complain about the same things as people who read the results.)

The Carnitas name is mentioned in a twitter message. Possibly a joke?

LU (SUN) 09/14/2014 Lucha Underground Arena, Boyle Heights, Los Angeles, California
1) El Americano, Mariachi Loco, Mascarita Sagrada b Cisco, Cortes Castro, Mil Muertes
dark match
2) Sexy Star b Ivelisse Vélez
3) Fenix (AAA) b Pentagón Jr.
another great match
4) Drago (AAA) b Hijo del Fantasma
Fantasma was using a different name/mask here.
5) Johnny Mundo COR Big Zeke
Cisco & Cortes Castro ran in, causing their own man to be counted out. Mundo was put thru a table.

Best turn out for a show so far; whatever they did the last few days to get people to show up worked.

Not 100% sure on what name Fantasma used here and curious about him using a different name. Mesias not being Mesias can be justified by him portraying a different character and by wanting to get more masks on the show. If Fantasma was just here to give Drago a good win without losing as Fantasma, that makes sense (though people figured out it was Fantasma so it didn’t actually work.) If Fantasma is a regular masked character under a different name, then it’s just strange for a promotion that’s supposed to be an extension of AAA.

They’re off this weekend, and then back again on 09/27.

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09/14 AAA TV Results (Cancun)

AAA TV (SUN) 09/14/2014 Hard Rock Hotel Riviera Maya, Puerto Aventuras, Quintana Roo [AAA]
1) Dinastía, Jennifer Blake, Octagoncito b Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Psycho Clown, Taya Valkyrie
2) Aerostar, Angélico, Australian Suicide b Daga, El Apache, Hijo de Pirata Morgan
Angelico gave Hijo del Pirata the crucifix powerbomb and Aerostar added a tornillo for the win.
3) Psycho Clown b Chessman
Psycho beat Chessman. Seconds were Dinastia and Averno, and Averno attacked Dinastia during the match. Blue Demon made the save
4) El Patrón Alberto, La Parka, Myzteziz b Averno, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Texano Jr.
Alberto won with the armbar (“Rompe Destinos”) on Averno. La Sociedad attacked the tecnicos after the match, with Cibernetico and Demon making the save. Cibernetico said he was going to form a new group to counter La Sociedad (and it sounded as if Demon would be part of it.)

Air Date: 09/27

All tecnico victories on the vacation show. There were also others brought in during the weekend – Gronda, Electroshock, and Pasion Kristal appear in pictures – who did not appear on the show.

Cibernetico is going for some sort of record for most groups formed (but this is probably what he was taking about with the announced back in Pachuca.)

Next announced taping is 10/10, but they’d need to tape before that and might have announced one on TV this weekend. AAA TV did announce Heroes Inmortales in SLP this weekend.

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(year) 2001 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

I did this one too. The lineups have been added to the luchadb for a little while and there are results below.

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como estaz 2×3: Jeque’s quesadillas

On Sunday, we went to Coliseo Coacalco and Arena Naucalpan, and caught two fun shows with two different audiences (and one Hip Hop Man.)

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Podcast is about 30 minutes – I went too fast, but Rob carried things by actually describing the matches. There’s no show to go to tomorrow, but there probably will be a podcast at some point.

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all minis show, Salon Citlalli

CMLL (SAT) 09/13/2014 Deportivo Tabasco, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), thecubsfan]
1) Pequeno Angel Magica b Zurdoxcito
2) Angelito & Stukita b Acero & Aéreo
best match of the undercard
3) Tackle (DF) b Kenawe
4) Mini Apache, Pentagoncito Black, Senor Muertico b Agulita Magic, Gitanito,Mascarita Magica
5) Panterita & Tritoncito b Chaneque & Mini Pirata Morgan
6) Bracito de Oro, Bracito De Plata, Bracito De Platino b Fantasy, Pequeño Jaque Mate, Pierrothito [Copa Pequeno Estrella]
Masakrito appeared with his old partners but did not wrestle
7) Astral © b Demus 3:16 [DF LIGHT]
Astral retained the title.
8) Bam Bam, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito ?? Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
scheduled main event, unsure what happened.

 

indy (SAT) 09/13/2014 Salón Citlalli, Ecatepec de Morelos, Estado de México [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), thecubsfan]
1) Lokillo b Psique
2) Fly Star & Toxin Boy L Rayo Star & Sky Man and Arceus & Corsario Negro Jr. and Rayo Sonico & Stukita
Winning team was to go onto the main event. Stukita & Rayo team was eliminated first, then the other three teams were all counted out. Referee ruled all three teams would go to the main event.
3) Destructor & Skull Metal b Aero Dinamyc & Principe A.
Rudos snuck in a double team after one team was eliminted to win.
4) Felina Metalica & Krazy Star b Goya Kong & Lluvia and Reyna Obscura &Sherry
Eliminations went Reyna, Krazy (both at about the same time), Goya Kong, Sherry and Lluvia last when Krazy Star came back in and distracted the referee so Felina could pull Lluvia’s mask and pin her. Challenges set up a Goya/Lluvia vs Felina/Krazy rematch next week.
5) Pólvora & Tritón b Rayo Star & Sky Man and Fly Star & Toxin Boy and Arceus & Corsario Negro

The indy teams did tons of moves, while the CMLL team did much less and did not get along. They still won.

Haven’t seen full results yet, but Fenix vs Pentagon Jr. vs Drago main evented Saturday night’s Lucha underground show and was said to be a great match. The mystery of Hijo del Fantasma not being booked anywhere was also solved: he was also at those shows, and the idea of focusing on only five AAA luchadors seems to be out.

AAA tapes today in Cancun and has Alberto in his first post-WWE official match. Diamante Azul and Euforia have a title match in CMLL.

Cavernario explains why he’s going to win on Friday.

El Sabor del Ring has five reasons Ultimo Guerrero will win.

Cronicas Y Leyendas looks back at the EMLL 8th Anniversary main event.

LuchaWorld has Fusion Pro Wrestling results and KrisZ’s news report

Ohtani’s Jacket reviews some early 1990s El Dandy.

Como Estaz 2×2: Aereo’s bite

Saturday, we saw an all minis show and a kinda-of indies versus CMLL event. We talk about them for about 40 minutes, plus/minus unexplained breaks.

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There were a few more people around the microphone (/cell phone with a recording app); I did something to improve the volume but I’m not entirely sure it worked. Hopefully everything comes thru.

https://youtube.com/user/FollingDT is the Sky Stars channel.

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Ingobernables and Cavernario win prior to Anniversary show

photo by CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 09/12/2014 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro b Shockercito & Stukita
Rudos took 1/3
2) Misterioso Jr., Puma, Skándalo b Black Panther, Pegasso, Tritón
Rudos took 1/3
3) Cavernario, Pólvora, Rey Escorpión b Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
Rudos took 1/3 again, with Cavernario beating up Cometa early and beating him clean to end the match.
4) Fuego, Titán, Valiente b Ephesto, Hechicero, Niebla Roja
Fuego replaced Mascara Dorada (moved to different match) on Monday. Tecnicos tooks 2/3.
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Dorada replaced Dragon Rojo (who did appear on commentary). Tecnicos won in straight falls when Thunder attacked everyone, including catching Marco’s Air Italia and slamming him.
6) Diamante Azul, La Máscara, Rush b Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker
Tecnicos took 1/3 in a brawl.

Nothing changes for next Friday. Brazo de Plata is the Dragon Rojo replacement on Tuesday. Thunder deal came off like they were trying to not just turn him rudo, but make him a new top of the card rudo. I would guess more of the same next week.

Lucha Underground resumes taping today. Fenix, Pentagon and Drago are on the shows, but Ricochet/Prince Puma will not be – he’s off to Evolve for the weekend.

AAA’s TV will air Myzteziz vs Perro Aguayo Jr. today.

Electroshock and Gronda are at the Hard Rock Show in Cancun, even though they weren’t on the card. Guess they are now.

Lineups

IWRG FILL (TUE) 09/16/2014 Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Niko, Vardeus, Voltar vs Mercenario De La Muerte, Sexy Girl, Último Caballero
2) Chicanito & Vampiro Metálico vs Ciclon & Guerrero 2000
3) Black Cobra, Extraño, Galaxy vs Fly Boricua, Magnum 44, Mardux Jr.
4) Alfa, Omega, Sky Ángel vs Atomic Star, Hip Hop Man, Matrix Jr.
5) Chucho el Roto, Dante, Euro, Ironía, Sider, Sky Flay, Super Terry, Yakuza vs Andy Boy, Ciclon, Dr. Killer, Guerrero Mixtico, Haziel, Karate Kid, Orión, Tony Rivera [Copa High Power]
AULL vs Neza Boys
6) Anubis Black, Capitán Muerte, Emperador Azteca, Látigo, Metaleon, Power Bull, Saruman, Zurdog vs Alan Extreme, Apolo Estrada, Avisman, Canis Lupus, Eterno, Golden Magic, Imposible, Veneno [Copa HIgh Power]
FILL vs IWRG

A double Copa High Power show! There are so many interesting cards on Tuesday, and pretty much none on Monday and Wednesday. They’ll do well because it’s targeting the casual fans who will go to a show on a holiday, but the hardcore fan in me really wishes they’d spread those out a bit better.

Como Estaz 2×1: waiting for Hechicero

We’re back in Mexico, so the podcast makes an unlikely return.

Listen as we struggle with the combination of jet lag and a sometimes boring CMLL show!

Marvel at my inability to improve the sound quality!

Reply with your feedback below!

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(The como estaz tag should continue to work as a podcast feed for this show. Thanks for listening.)

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