2017 Homenaje a Dos Leyendas results

THERE IS NO OFFICIAL LIVE STREAM. I’ll point to live stuff I can find on Twitter as it comes up, but it probably won’t last long.

Results here as the night goes on.

CMLL (FRI) 03/17/2017 Arena México
Homenaje a Dos Leyendas, 2017 (Villano III & Salvador Lutteroth)
1) Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis b Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit
Estrellita was streteched out after crashing on a dive attempt. Zeuxis wore a Trauma-like mask in honor of trainer Negro Navarro.


2) Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Titán b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja
tecnicos took 2/3



3) Kráneo, La Máscara, Rush b Atlantis, Carístico, Marco Corleone
Rudos took straight falls, Rush pinning Marco with help from Mascara


4) Último Guerrero © b Matt Taven [NWA MIDDLE]
Ultimo Guerrero took falls 1/3 to keep the title. 10th defense.

5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. © b Hechicero, Luciferno, Mephisto [CMLL TRIOS]
Hechicero replaced Ephesto the night before the show. Sky Team took 2/3, Valiente beating Luciferno in the decider. Ninth defense.


Villano III was honored

6) Diamante Azul b Pierroth [mask]
Azul took falls 2/3 to keep his mask (and only seemed to lose the first one by DQ.) Rush interfered, which eventually led to Maximo, La Mascara, Terrible and Marco fighting. All were sent to the back, and Diamante Azul won seconds later. Pierroth gave his info as Arturo Muñoz, 47 years and 26 years as luchador. (The age seems to be a work.) He attacked Diamante Azul and unmasked him. Azul put on Pierroth’s mask and they brawled after the match.




Homenaje a Dos Leyendas tonight, The Crash CDMX card revealed

I still can’t believe this is a thing that is actually happening (and I’m not even sure it’s the worst major lucha show of the week)

IWRG (WED) 03/15/2017 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Guerrero 2000 b Fly Star
2) Lunatic Extreme, Odín, Ovett b Adrenalina, Atomic Star, Vórtize
Ovett & Odin replaced Lunatic Boy & Lunatic Fly
3) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Shadow Boy b Araña de Plata, Keiser Drago, Power Bull
4) Black Dragón, Cadilac, Danny Casas DQ Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
Hijo del Diablo fouled Danny Casas, who was a replacement Chicano
5) Demonio Infernal, Heddi Karaoui, Relámpago b Emperador Azteca, Freelance, Pantera I
Rudos took 1/3, Demonio beating Pantera and demanding a title shot.

Ovett’s last match on an IWRG show is 1998 – at least under that name.

Today’s the day. Pierroth & Diamante Azul will finally have their mask match. It’s not exactly a anticipated mask match. Dreaded seems more accurate. I wrote (way too much) about this match and the rest of the show in a preview going up soon on Voices of Wrestling, and my theory is the best chance of this match being good is being the style of match CMLL hates, an out of control brawl where the rules are generally thrown out the window. CMLL teased this possibility last week with the potato chip result and the brawling in the crowd. On Informa, Maximo, Terrible and Marco Corleone said they’d back up Diamante Azul on this show because they’re sick of Los Ingobernables. It’s an Informa angle so nothing may come of it, but lots of people interfering and counter interfering is what this match needs. If CMLL leaves Pierroth and Diamante Azul by themselves, they’ll fail, and CMLL will have failed them.

The big news going into the show tonight is the change in the semimain. Ephesto is out. He missed Tuesday’s show in Guadalajara because he underwent surgery on Wednesday after suffering blood poisoning. I wonder if it’s something like his appendix bursting, which would cause that issue. CMLL’s said he’ll be out a month, and Hechicero will replace him tonight. I think that actually helps the match a lot. The chances of the Sky Team losing the trios titles is about extremely low with a makeshift team, but it was never all that high to begin with.

Ultimo Guerrero is hoping the people cheer for him against the foreigner tonight. He’ll probably get his wish. Matt Taven has arrived for that title match. (Okumura was there to meet him, a surprise.) CMLL hasn’t said how long he’s sticking around, but it can’t be more than two weeks since Taven’s booked on the ROH WrestleMania show. That doesn’t seem quite long enough to do a title win and lose it back the next week, but CMLL could still just figure out how to get the title back later. It’s not a great chance for a title change, but more likely than in the other title match.

Today’s show will honor Villano III, and his mask match with Atlantis 17 years ago. In a media session a couple weeks ago, Villano III says he does not believe Atlantis was better than him, but just more prepared on that specific day.

The show starts at 8:30pm local, which is an hour later if you changed your clocks this weekend. It’s not airing officially live, though I suspect there will be video feeds in the wild and will be posting about them on Twitter as a find them. CMLL has said they’ll have the show up after it airs, which could mean anything with CMLL. For the anniversary show, CMLL put it up around 2AM local time. It then got locked down by YouTube because they were using copyrighted music on paid content. I wouldn’t recommend waiting up until the early hours to see if they’ve got this one figured out.

Lucha Underground starts on Tele 5 in Germany on May 1st. It replaces RAW on the station.

AAA & Perros del Mal are holding a memorial mass for Perro Aguayo Jr. on Tuesday morning. It’ll be the second anniversary of his death.

Hechicero also replaces Diamante Azul in Monterrey on 04/02, facing LA Park, Rush and Lashley in the main event of the MDA show.

Lector 24 writes about Duck Black Jr. losing a title match to Green Demon, from the standpoint of all the regulations which were broken during the match which should’ve meant Duck Black Jr. should’ve been still champion. (Assuming they’re not just making up the regulations.) It was a three fall match that went to a draw and was restarted for a fourth fall, so they’ve got a point.

Cara Lucha is teasing another Bestiario, their talent search contest. Wasson won the first one, with the idea he’d be a regular Cara Lucha participant. He hasn’t been, but Cara Lucha explains it because he’s injured.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Sorpresa Es Lucha talks about some recent lucha libre matches they’ve seen.

Soul Rocker & Dave the Clown were part of a cancer awareness event.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of Usted Queria La Lucha w/Atlantis and Atlantis Jr. as guests.


The Crash (WED) 04/05/2017 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) Arkángel Divino, Black Boy (Baja California), Zumbi vs Astrolux, Black Danger (Baja California), Último Maldito
2) Sexy Dulce © vs Keira, Santana Garrett, Lady Maravilla, Candy White, Laurel Van Ness [The Crash WOMEN]
3) Rey Horuz vs Laredo Kid, Mr. 450, Séptimo Dragón, Último Ninja, DJZ [#1 Contenders, The Crash CRUISER]
4) Jack Evans, Máscarita Dorada, Willie Mack vs ACH, Bestia 666, Black Tauro (Elite)
5) Daga vs Sami Callihan vs AR Fox vs Extreme Tiger
6) Blue Demon, Brian Cage, Garza Jr. vs Bobby Lashley, Carlito, Jeff Cobb
7) Penta Zero M, Rey Mysterio 619, The King (Fenix) vs Cody Rhodes, Katsuhiko Nakajima, Matt Sydal

The Crash has come to Mexico City. It’s going to be a card Mexican fans will like for the avalanche of star names, it should do well with crowd size,  and the ticket prices are high enough that they may not lose their house on it. That’s good. “Having a better show than AAA in AAA’s building” is also a thing, and they’re probably do OK there. They messed with AAA by booking Astrolux in an opener, so that’s a win already.

At the same time, this card does seem like so much overkill, 40 people on a card where about 20 would’ve meant the same thing, and everyone’s value reduced by being lumped together in matches with a lot of people when most of them are much better as singles. The people who like to see Bobby Lashley did not become a fan of him because of his work in trios matches. Same for Jeff Cobb or ACH or Matt Sydal. The Crash model is PWG and super indies of that mold, but that only seems to extend to talent selection – the matches themselves are still the same lucha libre filler six man format with people less experienced in doing them. PWG doesn’t bring in Pentagon to have whatever matches, they bring him in to have specific dream matches. Cody Rhodes, Matt Sydal and the NOAH champion is a trio no one thought they’d ever see, but that’s only because it’a a collection of three random outside of the WWE people, not because there’s any reason to see them together. And yet they kind of have to be a team, because there’s so many people on this show.

I like trios matches in CMLL. CMLL is the most antiquated promotion in the world. The Crash is trying to be cool and new and should be the least CMLL thing possible. Stop doing so many trios matches.

(I’m not sure who the people in Mexico are who are a fan of Carlito and why he keeps getting picked for these shows. At least Demon is over with a fanbase who might not otherwise be interested. Maybe there’s some WWC tie up? Good for Carlito for getting his money.)

The other thing that frustrated me, as far as making the same mistakes other people do, is why have a title called “cruiserweight championship” when there are at least 13 different cruiserweights on the show who are in matches higher up than the cruiserweight #1 contenders match. I know “the midcard title of guys who like but don’t think are top stars” is long for a name, but that’s how it’s being used. Either make titles things that can be in the main event or semimain, or don’t bother to have them at all.

I think this show will be a short term success and people should absolutely go – I’m disappointed that there’s apparently zero movement on officially taping and selling these things and I’ll be scouring for handhelds as usual, because I’d like to pay to see it myself. I’m just concerned about the problems The Crash lasting for the long haul. Good luck trying to figure out how to top this for the second show when you’ve already given so much the first time out.

lucha TV preview for weekend of March 17th

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No one knows exactly when the CMLL VOD will be released or what it will cost. It probably won’t be much, it probably will be just after the show ends – but it’s lucha libre and digital media, and CMLL could just put up Wednesday without blinking an eye. I would recommend not staying up until the wee hours to see if they put it up.

AAA leads into Rey de Reyes with a match with none of the people on the show, a six man match with one person on Rey de Reyes and a stipulation that seems to conflict with a match on that show, and a mystery angle in the main event which may be completely ignored the day later and has nothing do with the match any of them are having on a show. I don’t know.

I also don’t really have a good feel for Elite, who seems to be stretch out the TV as long as possible to no real end.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-03-14 

Rey Cometa sends Cavernario back to the stone age

Recapped: 03/15/2017

Show Data: All matches aired live from Arena Mexico. You can view the show on their YouTube channel. Also, we learned this week the mysterious MegaSports show that no one has ever seen is airing this show, so this show will air in front of a tiny audience at some point.

Match Results:

Eléctrico & Fantasy  beat  Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico (falls 1/3, 14:54 [7:34, 3:30, 3:50], good)

Drone, Metatrón, Starman  defeated  Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Nitro (falls 1/3, 19:34 [10:02, 3:23, 6:09], ok)

Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus defeated Esfinge, Fuego, Tritón (falls 2/3, 15:45 [7:11, 2:14, 6:20], ok)

Olímpico, Sam Adonis, Vangellys defeated Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol (falls 1/3, 13:45 [5:24, 3:19, 5:02], ok)

Rey Cometa ©  defeated  Cavernario for the Mexican National Welterweight Championship (20:51, great)

  1. Rey Cometa Spanish Fly (4:03)

  2. Cavernario cavernaaria (1:44)

  3. Rey Cometa Canadian Destroyer (15:04)

Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. defeated  Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible (falls 2/3, 6:23, ok)


thru the corner tope

Rey Cometa cleanly defeated Bárbaro Cavernario to keep the welterweight title. Cavernario was stretched out after the match (in what appeared to be the usual selling of a Destroyer in a big spot.) Drone replaced Magnus in the second match.


change of direction headscissors

Comera/Cavernario was another strong chapter in their rivialry. It was full of big dramatic moments in the match, even while leaving some of their most dangerous spots in the back. They’re skilled enough to cycle things out and showcase other spots – Cometa’s rolling cutter felt knew, the superplex hadn’t been a big part of their previous matches but got over well here as a near fall. They set up the new set up for the cavernaria in the last match, used it in the first fall, and used it as a fake out again near the end. They’re also better at selling than they get noted for; Cometa’s worn down by the end of a match, crumpled in the corner after a particularly hard Cavernario chop. This had the big dives, and they all look spectacular. It just didn’t have the crowd reaction. This was a match the Tuesday crowd didn’t seem to have a strong connection with, and it took them a while to really get into it where it might have gotten a longer and bigger reaction on a Friday. It didn’t quite feel as good as their best work, but it’s a fine follow up to the match they’ve done before. Hopefully this leads to more for them both, even if it’s not against each other.

One of the advantages to this new format is I don’t feel the necessity to save five different versions of “this was a forgettable B-show match, but [A] and [B] did something good.” That’s particularly useful on this show, which felt kind of dead outside the title match. It wasn’t helped by running very long (with Arkangel’s match going a lot longer than needed, as always), but the effort wasn’t particularly strong. Half the people in the fourth match looked like they’d rather be doing anything else, and it was hard to miss.

this was a nice strong moment from Electrico

The opener actually felt technically good, with Pequeño Nitro & Electrico having a few really good sequences. I couldn’t get into it himself – I’ve been numbed by the unending minis openers – but it was the obvious exception of people working harder than usual and might work better out of context.

Esfinge & Triton have a bunch of tag team spots, but seem to be running out of time to actually get a 2v2 match from CMLL unless Esfinge’s also going to Chicago. Drone being stuck back exactly where he was as Hombre Bala was some good gallows humor. Canelo looked halfway decent with him, but that’s a mirage. Starman’s finish is named the Starman Crash, and I didn’t even come up with that one.

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this was not a strong moment from Olimpico
Cavernario collapses Cometa

Stuka/Hechicero, Dorian on LU, the Crash Tijuana lineup

CMLL (TUE) 03/14/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Joker & Rey Trueno b Destructor & Magnum
Destructor replaced Sky Kid. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Oro Jr., Star Black, Star Jr. b Difunto, Hijo del Signo, Metálico
tecnicos took 1/3
3) Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther b Puma, Sansón, Tiger
Sanson replaced Okumura (still not back from injury). Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Titán b El Cuatrero, Forastero, Hechicero
tecnicos took 2/3, Stuka beating Hechicero in the third. Stuka asked for a title shot and Hechicero agreed.
5) Carístico, Mistico, Valiente b Felino, Luciferno, Mephisto
Felino replaced Ephesto. Tecnicos took 2/3. Caristico beat Mephsito, but there were no challenges.

That’s a sudden left turn from Caristico/Mephisto. Hope Ephesto is around tomorrow.

Dorian Roldan did a round of interviews following the release of Lucha Underground on Netflix. MedioTiempo asked him if the wrestlers who left AAA would still be back in Lucha Underground by season 4. Roldan said Season 4 taping was a long time away, but all talent was welcome. It’s better Dorian says that than not, but it still sticks out that Dorian avoids mentioning the talent who left by name when talking about the stars of the show with PubliMetro (with the noticeable exception of Sexy Star.) In that interview, he mentions Netflix had the option to pick up season 3, and he guesses that will happen around the time they start taping Season 4. In previous interviews, Eric Van Wagenen had at least implied Lucha Underground held that option on season 3, or at least had the power to renegotiate the deal. Dorian told Notimex he believes WWE created a television program on Wednesdays just to compete again him; it reads like he means NXT (which started weekly before LU), but I think he means the Cruiserweight Classic.

For what it’s worth, this week’s WON mentions Paul London scouting talent for a Season 4 of Lucha Underground while in Germany for WXW this weekend, with the idea of taping this fall. Fall would be earlier than last “early 2018” rumor. I do not take rumors of a Seaosn 4 tape date seriously, for bad or for good, until they’re very close and something has actually been announced.

On +LuchaTV’s podcast, Demus said he heard a rumor that CMLL might be removing the minis division and moving all the wrestlers to the regular division. I suspect this is mostly wishful thinking, there’s no other sign of this and yet it’d be really good news for the guys going nowhere in that group. The central point behind it is right – no one really noticed when Robin worked a minis match this past week, because he (and others like Stigma) are the same size as most of the minis. I wouldn’t count on this happening though.

On CMLL Informa, Rey Cometa thinks he’s only got about seven or eight years left in him. He’d be 40 or 41 by that time.

Plantilla Deportiva says they’re no longer covering CMLL. In a video, their director explained CMLL has decided to reduce access for digital media, and they decided that was unfair and left.

Principe Sugehit says she’s defending the national women’s title for the first time this Sunday in Arena Coliseo Monterrey. She doesn’t mention an opponent, but ERLL’s Facebook reveals it’ll be Zeuxis.

WWE revealed Chik Tormenta is trying out with them. She’s likely a candidate for their women’s tournament, taking place a couple months from now.

FULL sent out a press release officially announcing it’s Alberto based tour. He’s being listed as “El Patron Alberto”, which might be because AAA trademarked the Alberto el Patron version. He’s wrestling on 05/19 in Toluca, 20 in Puebla, 21 in Mexico City, 26 in Queretaro (new), 27 in San Luis Potosi and 28 in Monterrey. Only the 21st show is Distromania and it’s the big show of the tour.

SuperLuchas has launched a new podcast with a Super Crazy interview. They actually have an audio feed for the audio podcast, I’m so happy.

The Super Apuesta Podcast talks about El Faraon vs Pirata Morgan

Taya says she’s not concerned who she faces this weekend, because she always win.

ESPN Lucha Libre visits the lucha exhibit at the Metro Guerrero station. They’re thrilled that it’s been up for months with no vandalism.


The Crash (SAT) 03/25/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Mirage & Oraculo vs Black Danger & Último Maldito
2) Máscarita Dorada vs Séptimo Dragón
3) Flip Gordon & Mr. 450 vs Arkángel Divino & Black Boy
4) Bestia 666, Extreme Tiger, Laredo Kid vs Dezmond Xavier, Famous B, Shane Strickland
5) Garza Jr. & Sami Callihan vs Black Taurus (Elite) & Bobby Lashley
6) Daga & Rey Mysterio 619 vs Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson

Full card for the show. They could’ve probably done well with just the main event, yet added a lot of people in the undercard. Sami Callihan debuts here, the 10th Lucha Underground wrestler not based in Mexico to choose this promotion over AAA.

Xavier is an flyer from Ohio who’s been a raising touring indie star the last couple years and is debuting in PWG in a couple days. (He’s a guy who’d fit in a theoretical LU Season 4.) Flip Gordon is lesser known guy working the east coast indies. Neither guy is going to sell tickets on the poster to this audience their first time out but should be help the matches be exciting.

Mr. 450 is just back from his knee injury this weekend in WWC and should start popping up in Mexico again. Arkangel & Maldito being in different matches is strange.

DJZ, Robbie E and Brooke had all been announced for this show, with only Bobby Lashley from Impact still on the show. I guess plans changed.

The Crash is teasing news later today. I have some theories, but I lean towards them just announcing the Mexico City card too.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-03-13 

I love this cradle so much

Recapped: 03/14/207

Show Data: All matches aired live from Arena Puebla. You can view the show on their YouTube channel (and, as always but not always mentioned, some of the matches from this show will begin to air on 52MX two Saturday from now.)

Match Results:

Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel defeated Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Tigre Rojo Jr. (falls 2/3, 10:08 [6:17, 1:06, 2:45], OK)

La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis vs Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely (falls 2/3, 11:17 [5:39, 2:23, 2:51], OK)

Puma, Skándalo, Tiger beat Drone, Esfinge, Lestat (falls 2/3, 15:20 [5:10, 2:57, 6:12], OK)

La Máscara, Pierroth, Ripper beat Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Titán (falls 1/3, 7:48 [2:17, 2:20, 2:47], OK)

Atlantis, Carístico, Dragón Lee beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto (falls 2/3, 12:20 [1:52, 3:12, 7:18], OK)


Sanely had a tough day

Caristico beat Mephisto cleanly with La Caristica in the main event. (The Caristica is his Mistica; the announcers haven’t picked up on his move name change.) Caristico pointed out Mephisto had defeated him before, but felt he earned another title shot based on the win. Mephisto screamed to agree.

Pierroth pinned Diamante Azul in a third fall of a trios match, maybe for the first time.

Zexuis defeated Princesa Sugehit in a trios mask. She challenged for a title match. Sugehit agreed and raised it to a mask match. (They’re having a match, but not with any of those stipulations.

Espiritu Maligno & Policeman continue to feud, though Policeman also continues to win every single match.


noooo Ripper

Main event was a typical b-show trios main event, with the two guys feuding doing a lot and the other guys just doing about a minute each. Next week’s match could be good but this wasn’t.

It wasn’t until the semifinal where I realized one of the biggest matches of the year is going to be built around a front slam as a near fall. What a weird feud.

The tercera was alright, best match of the night, but never seemed to hit a high gear. There are better matches with those people. The important thing here is I’m tried of moves and sequences having no names and I’m going to start (resume?) assigning names to things until someone stops me. That Tiger/Puma trademark -cracker ending sequence? It’s now Muerto a Muerte in my notes, because they’re mauling the técnicos to death.

The women’s match was one of those which really make you fear for the future if/when Zeuxis leaves. The four supporting people in this match were not any good. Sanely’s whiff on a springboard was the ‘highlight’, but Seductora struggled noticeably all the way thru and the others weren’t saving thing. It’s to the point where it’s getting hard to put Zeuxis in a wider context; the gap between her and some of the others in this division is so wide, it’s hard to how much is her being really good and how much is the bar being so low.

Policeman suddenly having a nightstick to bring to the ring and deciding it was a good idea to hit Espiritu Maligno was strange. It did give us the great visual of Raziel & Policeman trying to keep Tirantes from calling the fall by showing Espiritu out of the ring while blocking Tirantes’ path. It didn’t work. Having Espiritu lose every fall is odd, maybe someone decided he was a mini wrestling in the main division.

Dragon Lee

AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-11 

new champion

Recapped: 03/13/2017

All matches taped 03/05/2017 in Plaza de Toros Rodolfo Rodriguez el Pana, Apizaco, Tlaxcala. Full epsiode is on AAA’s channel.


Argenis [O], Big Mami, Dinastía, El Elegido beat Dave The Clown, La Hiedra, Mini Abismo Negro, Parka Negra [X] (moonsault, 7:02, ok)

Super Fly defeated Bengala (powerbomb, 5:09, good)

Faby Apache beat Ricky Marvin © to win the AAA World Trios Championship (Chessman chair show→inside cradle, 4:32, good)

What happened:

a nice Abismo/Dinastia sequence

Faby Apache (and presumably Mary Apache & El Apache) are the new AAA Trios Champions. Faby won the titles for her team all by herself, defeating Ricky Marvin in an impromptu one on one match. Announcer Jesus Zuniga, as part of many moments on the show where he spoke for Vamprio, explained the scheduled Apaches vs OGT match was off because Apache was away with “personal issues” and Mary had been hurt in an accident. (One very short clip of Mary in ambulance was shown twice; it appeared to be something filmed from a previous angle being reused.) Averno – not Vampiro – proposed Faby put up her and her families’ career for a shot at ‘their dream’, the AAA trios championship. Faby accepted without hesitation, and won when Chessman accidentally hit Marvin with a chair. OGT seemed slightly upset with each other after the match, but not to the point of breaking up (at least yet.)

Super Fly defeated Bengala in another match announced by Announcer Jesus Zuniga as being a decision of Vampiro when Aerostar was ruled unable to compete. Super Fly earlier said he’d been looking all around for Vampiro to ask him about this match and could not find him anywhere. Everyone was certain Aerostar would still compete at Rey de Reyes, though Super Fly believed Aerostar wasn’t as much hurt as scared of him.

(AAA hyped both of these matches as if they would happen as scheduled during the show, a break from times where they’d give away the changes in the lineup screen.)

Texano Jr. visited the AAA offices in his own search to find Vampiro. He did not find him, but found a closet marked as Vampiro’s office. Inside was a note and a candle. The note explained Texano would have to defend his heavyweight title against Psycho Clown & Dr. Wagner. Texano was displeased to read that, and more so when the light mysteriously blew out.

More La Llave de la Gloria footage was shown, with Villano coaching and in-ring highlights shown. Some of the eventual ‘winners’ in this round (Papillon, Douki, Hanaoka) got interview time, though the winners haven’t been announced on the show yet.

The Lucha Retro segment was on the first Relevos Mixicos de Locura match, as an innovative match part of AAA’s 25 year history

Carta Brava Jr., who talks to the son of the original who accompanied his fathers to all his matches. Calls out Argenis.

The técnicos won an atomicos opener.


moonsault looked better than the landing

Vampiro! Vampiro! VAMPIRO! Not five seconds afrer the opening mentioned, the announcers screaming about an announcement Vampiro made. Super Fly’s promo was tangentially about Aerostar ducking him, but pointedly about Super Fly not being able to find Vampiro. Bengala doing well in the match was about Vampiro putting him into that position. Vampiro was put over in the NotiAAA. Vampiro was specifically the one for knowing the Apaches weren’t there. Texano had to find Vampiro’s office and it was another Vampiro mystery, with Vampiro’s non appearance the real biggest story of the show. Vampiro!!!

This was way too much Vampiro. It would be way too much anyone. They sure seemed to set up Vampiro as the biggest and most important person on the show, which might even work in the short-term but doesn’t address any of their long term issues. There hasn’t been any show domination like this on AAA TV since Konnan and the Roldans were at their most visible, and even then it seemed to be split among them. This was all a lot of attention one one guy, including in some parts (like announcing the people who were missing the show) were it didn’t seem to be needed.

Vampiro not actually being on-screen, but being refereed to as some all-powerful Oz, doesn’t make it better. And Vampiro as a mysterious shadowy guy doesn’t work when we’re seeing him as just a normal wrestling dude in the La Llave de la Gloria segments. I’m guessing they purposefully lead the show off with that segment to get it as far away from the spooky message at the end, but those two concepts can’t really work on the same show together.

Maybe this was one just one weird taping and it’ll get better on a more normal show (or after they actually watch this show.) There are more changes on there than Vampiro. Both the Super Fly/Aerostar and Apaches/OGT feud got video packages to make it clear how things got to this point, and Super Fly got an actual in ring promo before a match. I’m sure this isn’t right, but it feels like Super Fy hasn’t done a promo since season 1 of Lucha Underground (and he seems much more confident in his role here than there.) The Apaches/OGT video package even made a note of Secta’s win last week, so it doesn’t just feel like a random outcome that was never mentioned again.

The Hijo del Tirantes deal deserves it’s own space. It’s clear this week that not only has he been told not to do rudo referee spots, everyone’s been told to treat him like he’d never done one. The announcers stay away from the obvious Faby/Tirantes issues and even Faby’s in the same spot. There was a moment in the Marvin/Apache match where the crowd that Faby got a three count. It was two, a fair two, the crowd was just a bit anxious to see her win, but any count where the fans disagree with Tirantes is usually a moment for Faby to get in Tirantes face for a reaction. She just moved right along this week. I’m really fine with no more rudo referee spots, it’s what I’ve wanted all along, but I still feel cheated there’s this years long story about Tirantes cheating Faby and the payoff is everyone agrees to never talk about it again. I’m cautious at asking for even more Vampiro, but there needs to be some in front of the camera bit where Tirantes is told to knock it off to mirror whatever’s clearly happened behind the scenes. Right now, we’re mostly expected to forget something that’s been a focus of the promotion for years.

Bengala sliding headscissors

The Super Fly/Bengala was the most effective match of the show, with Bengala looking good in a rare singles chance for him and Super Fly getting the clean win he needed. It lacked a bit in drama; Super Fly won on the first big move he tried, and Bengala never felt that close to winning. (A problem here is even I can’t remember what Bengala’s using as a finisher, it doesn’t come up much.) Super Fly seems much more comfortable as a rudo now than he even did a few years ago, and there’s reason to have hope for the mask match.

Faby/Marvin had drama, but the stakes didn’t mean anything. I don’t believe the fans really thought for a second Faby was at risk of losing her career, because she didn’t spend a second thinking about it herself. OGT freaked out about losing their trios titles for minutes, selling the idea it meant a lot to them. The crowd got into the idea of Faby defeating a man in a singles match, but the idea of winning titles for her not present family members didn’t mean anything. Remember, this match was never supposed to be a title match – it was a lumberjack match of all things – so everything about the stipulations for this match was strange in the recap and just as strange on TV. The one difference on TV is it came across like they were opening the door for the OGTs to be done soon. That’d be quick, it’d make sense to take the titles of them while they could, but I’m not sure. The match itself was alright and helped by the energy, with the short time making it feel like a midstoryline Lucha Underground match than anything AAA usually provides.

Super Fly/Bengala also felt different from what normally airs on TV, which was a nice change from the opening atomicos. That followed the same formula as usual, including the super rushed heel beatdown segment in the middle of the match. Everyone seemed motivated to work really hard, but that didn’t mean it looked all that good. Elegido was the leader in doing a lot without doing much well, but Argenis ending moonsault looked particularly poor. Big Mami seemed to get a lot more attention than Dinastia, a worrying development. Mami even got to do her comedy back bridge spot while didn’t get to do his cool one.

Lucha Underground on Netflix, Cometa keeps his title over the caveman

Cometa & Cavernario

CMLL (TUE) 03/14/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Fantasy b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Drone, Metatrón, Starman b Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Nitro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Drone replaced Magnus. tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Esfinge, Fuego, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Olímpico, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Rey Cometa © b Cavernario [MEX WELTER] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cometa took falls 2/3 to win in a very good match. First defense after Cometa won the title from Cavernario last June.
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. b Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 14 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cometa & Cavernario is worth going out of your way to watch, as usual. It wasn’t as nuts as some of their matches but still pretty entertaining. Cometa winning is a nice surprise. In a better world, Cometa is defending this title against the Sagrado/Tiger/Pumas of the world, and Cavernario has a bigger title. In this world, I’m just happy to have this match.

Lucha Underground is on Netflix, if you are in the US, Canada or Latin American markets. (If you’re in places like the UK, Australia or Brazil, you’re still out of luck unless you want to run a VPN. Also, my secret shame is I’ve never subscribed to Netflix.)  It’s the first two seasons in HD, exactly as hyped on the day Lucha Underground said it’d be released. This is a good day for Lucha Underground. TV Insider has an interview with Johnny Mundo about what the show could mean for the series.

One surprise is there’s Spanish language commentary for both seasons. This bit leaked out yesterday afternoon – this article previewing the series mentioned there was second season Spanish commentary. I almost wrote something correcting it because, as well all know, Lucha Underground stopped recording sections in Spanish after they stopped airing on Unimas. Apparently, we (I) don’t know anything, because Season 2 does indeed have a second language track. It’s a mishmash: there’s voice actors dubbing over the parts of the wrestlers and for the on camera desk shots of Striker & Vampiro, and then Jose Manuel Guillen and Bernado Guzman of +Lucha taking over the actual play by play of the matches. I kind of want to see it to see how they’d call the bigger matches.

(aside 1: It was always a bit short sided not to continue recording segments in Spanish – this show probably needs to air in the native language of lucha libre if it’s going to succeed – but LU’s bank accounts are not infinite and it might have been a tradeoff to use that money on other things. Still, it seems like something that should come back in season 4.)

(aside 2: people think I do a lot of stuff. No, the +LuchaTV crew really does a lot of stuff. Jose is doing commentary for the English version of CMLL that’s airing in Canada and the Spanish version of AAA’s Lucha Underground, that’s a real rarity and would be busy enough for most people. That crew is also producing multiple video shows a week for their YouTube channel, doing a podcast, going to multiple shows and editing highlights packages, producing paid content, and probably ten other things I don’t even know about. It’s not just two guys, or two guys and one Monje, it’s a crew of people working on the project now who deserve to share in some of the credit, but the project is responsible for a tremendous amount of important lucha libre content. I don’t know how long it can last this way, someone big is going to notice what they’re doing and give them and offer just to work on their stuff someday, but +LuchaTV feels like the most irrepalacable part of the lucha libre landscape at the moment for how many different parts of it they affect.)

The Mistico & Stuka vs Sam Adonis and Ultimo Guerrero match in Orlando on 04/01 is off. This doesn’t affect the CMLL people appearing for Ring of Honor (and doesn’t have anything to do with ROH also using CMLL people.)

At the BARACAL show honoring the original Pierroth, he stated he approved of the new Pierroth using the name. This is the usual bit of a older luchador licensing his name out to someone else, which probably helps the original Pierroth given his medical issues.

Llaves y Candados announced in a video that their ColiseoMania 5 (04/09) top matches will be a main event of Garza, Rey Mysterio and Penta el Zero M against Nicho, Damian and Bestia, and a semimain of Zorro & Daga against Sammy Guevara and a international surprise. Rey Fenix was said to not be on the card this time due to other commitments.

Vampiro was interviewed by his local Thunder Bay paper about his new role with Lucha Libre FMV. He explains he was the perfect person for the position, and will still be spending time in his hometown doing community work and with his martial arts school.

Lector 24 interviews Black Terry, who calls himself a teacher and not a maestro – he helps people get better, he’s not perfect.

The latest +LuchaTV podcast has Texano, Demus and Iron Kid as guest. They’ve also posted Saturno vs Skyman from Cara Lucha, which is said to be really great.

Impact Wrestling has an article on Garza Jr. & Laredo Kid. Mostly Garza Jr., they can’t figure out anything about Laredo Kid because he’s a masked man. Their debut match airs tomorrow on Impact.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Segunda Caida reviews Hijo del Santo vs Negro Casas from 1997.

The FULL show this weekend in Cuernavaca drew 2,500.

Super Fly says Monterrey will see Aerostar’s face.

CMLL’s written a history of Homenaje a Dos Leyendas main events or at least the ones they feel like bringing up. FWIW,

Electrico, Silueta and Demus talk about their trip to Puerto Rico.


IWRG (SUN) 03/19/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Shadow Boy vs Araña de Plata
2) Kanon vs Skanda
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Eterno, Hip Hop Man, Keshin Black, Vórtize [lumberjack]
4) Black Dragón vs Demonio Infernal
5) Heddi Karaoui, Relámpago, X-Fly vs Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Nigma
6) Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Killer Jr., Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Danny Casas, Hijo del Alebrije, Bobby Lee Jr., Silver King Jr., Argos, Diablo Jr., Hijo de Pirata Morgan [Rebelion de los Juniors]
winner gets a shot at the IWRG Junior de Juniors title, held by Herodes Jr.

Silver King Jr., Argos and Bobby Lee Jr. make appearances here to round out the all Junior elimination match. Fourth match is a rematch of a mask match.

CMLL (TUE) 03/21/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Cholo & Inquisidor
2) Magia Blanca, Sangre Imperial, Starman vs Nitro, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Virus [lightning]
5) Luciferno, Mephisto, Pólvora vs Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Once you get past the really not good first two matches, this is a pretty strong card. Maya/Virus is the eye catching match, but the maine vent has a good mix and the tercera has the Dinamitas against Blue Sr. and a couple of good stand-ins for his sons. The semimain rudo vs rudo match up only makes sense if they’re setting up the Casas family finally getting their – NAH.

CMLL (TUE) 03/21/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
***Homenaje a Dos Leyendas: Salvador Lutteroth & Ringo Mendoza***
1) Capitán Cobra & Fantástico vs Linterna & Mr. Apolo
2) Marcela, Silueta, Skadi vs Amapola, La Seductora, Tiffany
3) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Johnny Idol vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
4) Hechicero © vs Stuka Jr. [NWA LH]
5) Diamante Azul, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

Matt Taven is staying for more than just the weekend. Last week’s Caristico/Mephisto feud didn’t stay, with a sudden left turn into a Hechicero title match instead. That means the Hijos del Infienro might actually be giving up their titles on Friday before the Casas get that shot.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 03/26/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Baby Star, Dragón Negro, Magnético vs Demasiado, Pituso, Vengador Radioactivo
2) Demus 3:16, Mercurio (CMLL), Pierrothito vs Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid
3) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Totem I & Totem II
4) Puma (CMLL) & Tiger vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako
5) Black Terry & Negro Navarro © vs Hechicero & Virus [Arena Coliseo TAG]
2nd defense
6) Dragón Lee & Soberano Jr. vs Sádico & Sammy Guevara
7) Atlantis vs Último Vampiro

Full card for Chairo9 already. Atlantis vs Ultimo Vampiro is a unique match. Semimain could be outstanding. Title match should be fun too, because Negro Navarro appears to be a big Hechicero fan.

great match roundup, week of 2017-03-04

Inside the blog: I stayed up very late to finish the Martes post on Thursday, but didn’t switch from Draft to Scheduled so it was all for naught. Also, it’s a Martes recap so it’s always for naught. Maybe I’ll change things up a bit just to see if I can do this better.

Lot of good stuff and some “eh, good enough” stuff.

rating matches TV Show taped
good Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman and Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria AAA Worldwide en Cuautitlan Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Marzo 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman and Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria (posted by thecubsfan) AAA on Televisa: 2017-03-04 2017-02-11
good Rush vs Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 6 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-06 2017-03-06
good Blue Panther Jr., Star Jr., The Panther vs Canelo Casas, Puma, Skándalo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-07 2017-03-07
good Blue Panther, Titán, Tritón vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 7 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-03-07 2017-03-07
good Fuego & Soberano Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado Fuego & Soberano Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-10 2017-03-10
good Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-10 2017-03-10
good Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-10 2017-03-10
good Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-03-10 2017-03-10

Other matches watched


Cometa/Cavernario tonight, Puebla results, Vampiro head of talent for LLFMV

triple dive

CMLL (MON) 03/13/2017 Arena Puebla [CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva]
1) Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel b Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis b Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Zeuxis challenged Sugehit to a title match for next week
3) Puma, Skándalo, Tiger b Drone, Esfinge, Lestat LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) La Máscara, Pierroth, Ripper b Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Dragón Lee b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 13 DE MARZO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Carsitico challenged Mephisto to a title match for next week.

Sounds like the third match is the one worth checking out. They stayed away from doing the trios title match next week. If they do the same in Guadalajara, the Infiernos might actually be giving up the trios titles.

Today’s Arena Mexicos show has Rey Cometa versus Barbaro Cavernario. It’s a solid bet to be great, every match they’ve had has been great. It’s for Rey Cometa’s Mexican Welterwerweight championship. It was Cavernario’s title, Cometa seems to have only won it to put doubt in the outcome of their hair match last year. That didn’t quite work, and CMLL’s done nothing with Cometa since, so this is probably Cometa’s last moment to have a great singles match for a while. He’ll probably wrestle like it, and Cavernario will be as crazy as usual. It should be a good time. If you’re a person who doesn’t like to watch the entire Tuesday Arena Mexico show, this match should take place after 10pm CDT (US).

It should be the main event. It’s not the main event, because a pointless Marco, Volador and Maximo versus Mr. Niebla, Terrible, Rey Bucanero trios is the main event. The crowd will like that match, but it seems likely to be a sub 10 minute rushed thru match because it will be hard to follow the title match. (It’s a Tuesday main event, so it might have been the same otherwise.) The fourth match is Angel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Guerrero Maya Jr. versus Vangellys, Olimpico and Sam Adonis. Triton, Esfinge, and Fuego against Virus, Misterioso and Sagrado. Magnus makes a streaming show, but with Sensei, Metatron, Arkangel, Nitro and Canelo Casas. Electrico & Fantasy take on Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Nitro to open the show.

CultIcon also previews the show. Like last night, the CMLL stream now starts an hour later, starting at 8:30pm.

Vampiro is now also the Head of Talent Relations for Lucha Libre FMV, Lucha Underground’s parent company, as part of the AAA side handling the wrestling end of the promotion. The job description is “scouting and development, live event coordination, and communication with leagues owners FactoryMade Ventures, Lucha Libre AAA and Promociones Antonio Peña, S.A. de C.V. in Mexico. He will also oversee Lucha Underground talent schedules, travel, and negotiation with 3rd party promoters.” What this means is anyone’s guess; we haven’t really seen anything come of Dorian Roldan being in put charge a couple months ago. In theory, you’d need to go thru Vampiro to booking Lucha Underground wrestlers, but they’ve been getting booked out on their own for years now. Vampiro would seem to be the point man in setting up live shows and seemed to be involved in that end already.

IWRG’s Dragon Fly says he’s heading to Japan soon, though he doesn’t say who he’s with or when he’s going. The Gladiatores also has an interview with Chicano, who introduces Tigre del Ring, Chabela la Atrevida and Atomo as part of his Chiwa Team (as luchadors from Chihuahua.)

Octagon says 2017 is the year he and Fuerza Guerrera will have their mask match, making this the 27th straight year where Fuerza & Octagon were definitely going to have their mask match.

California indie wrestlers Dicky Mayer and Adrian Quest saying they’re wrestling on DragonMania (which turns out to be May 27th this year.)

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

Paste Machine writes about Maximo.

+LuchaTV has a sit down with Diamante Azul.


CMLL (MON) 03/20/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Meyer, París, Vega vs King Jaguar, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr.
2) Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray, Zaeta Roja vs Cancerbero, Policeman, Raziel
3) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis [lightning]
4) Lestat, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Kráneo, Luciferno, Morphosis
5) Diamante Azul, Mr. Niebla, Terrible vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Mephisto © vs Carístico [CMLL WELTER]
5th defense

I guess you can’t have a Homenaje a DOS Leyendas when they’re only honoring one; CMLL says this show will honor Salvador Lutteroth (and no one else.) Caristico just lost this title match in Arena Mexico and doesn’t seem to have much better odds in Puebla. The lightning match could set up a title match next week, or just go nowhere. Espiritu & Policeman remain on the show, on opposites of matches.

Lestat now escaping the locals opening matches two weeks in a row, and even while Stigma is around. And Morphosis is back for the first time since Histeria lost his mask. Morphosis is Histeria. I know I’m excited to see if CMLL will let someone who lost their mask put one back on. Hey, look, Pierroth.