great match roundup, week of 2017-10-14

one more time

this week’s recaps

And that’s the last Lucha Underground review, for now or forever. I’m writing this on Tuesday night and I’m tempted to make some wild prediction for this post which won’t turn up until Friday – but you probably won’t trust I didn’t edit anyway. I hope everyone’s resolved by the time you read this either way.

I really liked Volador/Carsitico and I’m still probably the low man on it. (I was astounded when I saw the WON give it 4.5 stars.) I like to be able to explain why I grade different matches differently. I’m not sure how well I do it, or how interesting I make it. Sometimes, it’s just a feel. Mundo/Puma just felt different than this particular Caristico/Voaldor for me.

There was a lot of watchable stuff this week. It probably affected the ones I didn’t like; standards are high.

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Johnny Mundo © vs Prince Puma [LU CHAMP] Lucha Underground: 2017-10-18 2016-06-26
great Cage vs Jeremiah CraneMil Muertes [Guantlet of the Gods] Lucha Underground: 2017-10-18 2016-06-26
great Pentagón Dark vs Prince Puma © [LU CHAMP] Lucha Underground: 2017-10-18 2016-06-26
great Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-20 2017-10-20
great Carístico vs Volador Jr. in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-20 2017-10-20
good Drago vs Marty The MothTexanoAustralian Suicide[Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament final matchRing Rock StAAArs 2017 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Septiembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-14 2017-09-23
good Cuatrero & Sansón © vs Esfinge & Stigma for the Arena Coliseo (DF) Tag Team Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-16 2017-10-16
good Marco Corleone © vs Rush for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-16 2017-10-16
good Matanza vs Dragón Azteca Jr. in a cage match The Monster Matanza VS. Dragon Azteca Jr. - Ultima Lucha Tres, Part IV (posted by El Rey Network) Lucha Underground: 2017-10-18 2016-06-26
good Drago vs King Cuerno AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-09
good Marty Martinez & Son of Havoc vs Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori[Lucha World Cup] and in a tournament quarterfinal match AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10
good Andrew Everett & DJZ vs Aerostar & Drago [Lucha World Cup] and in a tournament quarterfinal match AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10
good Andrew Everett & DJZ vs Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori [Lucha World Cup] and in a tournament semifinal match AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10
good Angélico vs King Cuerno AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10

other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Lady Shani vs La Hiedra Ring Rock StAAArs 2017 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Septiembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-14 2017-09-23
ok Psycho Clown & Rey Escorpión vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Pagano Ring Rock StAAArs 2017 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Septiembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-14 2017-09-23
ok Asturiano, Eléctrico, Stukita vs Guerrero Espacial, Joker, Mercurio LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-16 2017-10-16
ok Carístico, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-16 2017-10-16
ok Astral, Magnus, Metatrón vs Espanto Jr., Grako, NitroLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-17 2017-10-17
ok Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-17 2017-10-17
ok Drone vs Raziel in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-17 2017-10-17
ok Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero, Puma, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-17 2017-10-17
ok Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja vs Cavernario, Euforia, Felino LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-17 2017-10-17
ok Pagano & Psycho Clown vs Cody Hall & Quiet Storm[Lucha World Cup] and in a tournament quarterfinal match AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10
ok Pagano & Psycho Clown vs Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori [Lucha World Cup] and in a tournament final match AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10
ok Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-20 2017-10-20
ok Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible in a relevos increíbles match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-20 2017-10-20
ok Diamante Azul, Mistico, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-20 2017-10-20
below average Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja vs Ares & El Perverso LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-16 2017-10-16
below average Lestat & Millenium vs El Malayo & Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-16 2017-10-16
below average Angelito & Fantasy vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 17 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-17 2017-10-17
below average Vampiro vs Mil Muertes AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-09
below average Mil Muertes & Vampiro vs Kendo Kashin & Nosawa[Lucha World Cup] and in a tournament quarterfinal match AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10
below average Pagano & Psycho Clown vs Kendo Kashin & Nosawa[Lucha World Cup] and in a tournament semifinal match AAA on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 2017-10-10
not rated Oro Jr. & Star Jr. vs Disturbio & Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-20 2017-10-20

AAA Lucha World Cup on SamuraiTV: 2017-10-20 

wipe out

Recapped: 10/25/2017

This year’s version of the Lucha World Cup broadly fit the previous versions: some patriotism and some good matches, though nothing out of this world. It still was the weakest of the three: moving it to Japan and a small half full arena robbed the show of it’s atmosphere, which was the best thing the competition had going for it.

The format change hurt too: the best match on the show (Impact vs NOAH) felt like it had a lot left into it when they hit the 10 minute limit, and the pace of the other matches were hurt. This was also the weakest team AAA: Psycho Clown gets over but doesn’t wrestle interesting enough to make for three good matches (though the issues with the second one didn’t have much to do with him.) There’s nothing must see on this show, but there were a few nice novelty matches, including the two Cuerno matches shown. There was also a lot of stuff I didn’t really care for, and I didn’t realize how much until I looked back at this later.

Matches: 

Most matches appeared to be edited a slight bit. Time is indicated in the results

The broadcast opens with clips from the Lucha Underground show, with the briefest of highlights of the three undercard matches (or the entrances, in the case of the Psycho Clown match.) The first two matches aired in full are from that show at Shinkiba 1st Ring on October 9th.

King Cuerno beat Drago
(7:07 shown/8:29 in full, Thrill of the Hunt, good)

CMLL lightning style match, with both guys getting in their big moves in a hurried pace. Camera wasn’t quite up to where it needed be, because Cuerno’s tope went straight into the darkness. Didn’t seem the smoothest thing, something prior to the finish looked like I went wrong, but gave the fans a lot of both guys and worked well.

nice having a ramp again

Vampiro no contest Mil Muertes
(9:48 w/no official time, Nosawa & Fujita run in to attack both, below average)

What Happened: Vampiro repeatedly leaves and comes back to get the reaction. He’s worth studying to get down all the old pro moves.

Mil had the Flatliner set up when Nosawa and his partner hit the ring to attack them, and build up Nosawa/Vampiro for tomorrow. Vampiro, who’s already scheduled to team with Mil tomorrow, asks Mil to be his partner tomorrow. Mil says yes.

ReviewThis match really wasn’t what it should be, but then it never was going to be what it should be. It should’ve been the monster Mil Muertes destroying whoever happened to be in his path, which just happened to be Vampiro. Vampiro’s not a guy who can take an entertaining destruction, and probably wouldn’t want to anyway. Instead, this was a mostly 50/50 match with Mil Muertes wrestling as Ricky Banderas wearing an odd match. The match would’ve been better for a Puerto Rician tribute show than a Lucha Underground one.

10 minutes was too long to go for these guys; Vampiro looked like he was leaning on Mil to stand up after three. Some of it was selling, but it was clearly not all that way. His pescado was not the best idea, sitting up and grabbing his arm after taking a suplex on the ramp, the top rope twisting senton was surprisingly good, but this was just a lot of Vampiro. Mil did wear down armbars instead of dominating, and no one much liked the run-in.

I can’t believe someone who did this
also did this

The rest of the broadcast was from Korakuen Hall on October 10. Almost all matches were from the Lucha World Cup. The singles match was not, and the trios match was not shown (though they were included in the opening presentation of all the countries.)

Pagano & Psycho Clown beat  Cody Hall & Quiet Storm in a Lucha World Cup quarterfinal
(9:00/9:07, Psycho Clown top rope low blow headbutt Cody Hall, ok)

Very tall Cody Hall and not very tall Quiet Storm didn’t visually fit together, and they also didn’t work well as opponents to these técnicos. This one got a decent amount of time but there wasn’t a lot to it.

dives
nope

Kendo Kashin & Nosawa beat Mil Muertes & Vampiro    in a Lucha World Cup quarterfinal
(4:14/6:09, DQ Vampiro [Nosawa fakes being hit by a chair, below average)

They didn’t do a whole before the lame DQ finish, Vampiro seemed to do most of it, and the rudo faked DQ bit didn’t seemed earned at all. AAA’s had bigger names in this LWC competition in the past and I can’t recall a more copout finish.

Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori beat Marty Martinez & Son of Havoc in a Lucha World Cup quarterfinal
(8:00/8:11, Isihimoi pin Haovc, good)

This quarterfinal was a solid match. Son of havoc’s signature spots looked impressive (and got him a medal.) Marty could’ve felt out of place, but really didn’t. The match lacked the intensity of a big match but still worked for an odd ball match up in this competition. If nothing else, this match helped me learn that Son of Havoc wrestled as Raptor in NOAH for a tour, so I hope there’s a Raptor/Raptor match someday. Finish looked awkward, Ishimori didn’t really get his knees up to block the SSP in time.

This won dive of the night

Andrew Everett & DJZ vs Aerostar & Drago  in a Lucha World Cup quarterfinal
(6:59/7:51, Andrew Everett 630 senton on Drago, good)

This had all the Aerostar weirdness you want, slip included. The knee dive stood out, but he was trying a bunch of other stuff, to the point where Aerostar Tries Idea was the dominate story of the match. Everyone had ideas and it didn’t totally mesh together at times because they were trying so hard to do stuff that might not work, one that’ll look a little cooler in GIFs than in real life. It was interesting as a highlight reel, just with some of the unsteadiness that happens in this competition.

knee springboard tope con giro
DJZ with the springboard double armdrag
completely abnormal

Pagano & Psycho Clown beat Kendo Kashin & Nosawa  in a Lucha World Cup semifinal
(4:51/5:14, Psycho Clown pin Nosawa after Vampiro chokeslam, below average)

Psycho and Pagano got their finish working better the second time, but the brawl here wasn’t anything special again. Crowd wasn’t that into this despite the biggest técnicos being involved, and Nosawa & Kashin didn’t show anything. Psycho knows how to work the crowd into caring, but the action is just not much if you don’t care.

Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori beat Andrew Everett & DJZ in a Lucha World Cup semifinal
(11:28/12:11, Ishimori Salida del Sol DJZ in 1
st overtime, good)

What Happened: Time runs out as DJZ & Everett have Ishimori isolated in the ring, though they’re not that close to beating him. DJZ and Ishimori wrestle the overtime period

Review: This was the best match in the tournament. The AAA/Impact match had bigger highspots, but this match was smoother all the way thru. Team NOAH looked more impressive than in the opener and this one had more direction, with the NOAH team getting in a couple of hot tags and being cut off going for the finish. The overtime worked really, just all big moves, near falls and drama. There’s clearly a better match possible without the 10 minute time limit format – they needed about 2 more for the finish they wanted – but this was about as good as possible with that ceiling.

DJZ DDT
Impact double dive (some sequences sped up)

King Cuerno beat Angélico  
(8:41/11:08, Thrill of the hunt, good)

The Cuerno/Angelico came off as a better version of Cuerno’s match with Drago. It was a little bit lower, owing to the time, and hit the really big spots, but they had space for sequences leading into the big moves. Angelico hasn’t been around so much that stuff like the Jackie Chan kick seem fresh all of the sudden, and he kind of showed a rudo edge at times during this match. Cuerno did a better job of staying in character than Mil Muertes.

night 1 tope went into darkness, night 2 tope had a fan step in the way.
“oh, right, he does that”

Pagano & Psycho Clown beat Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori  in a Lucha World Cup final

(6:38, Psycho Clown Canadian Destroyer HI69, ok)

Review: This was their best to the Psycho/Pagnao efforts, even though it still is up and down. They were more interesting on offense – or at least Psycho was. Pagano could’ve been anyone, and didn’t really stand out outside the Air Raid Crash on the apron. Strictly enforcing the rules hurts him, but he didn’t feel as big a presence as usual. Psycho can get over doing not much, Pagano needs his toys to do so. AAA is way into Pagano so he got the spot, but someone else would’ve had better matches. He did the Maximo like top rope tope con giro here, and that was nice. Ishimori and HI69 going for the same tag team finish but never hitting it was a great running bit,. It probably would’ve gotten a good reaction if it finally worked, and there was plenty of time for it to happen. I’m sure they were all tied, but a sub seven minute match as a main event fells really minimal. Ishimori getting the vote for best wrestler makes since, but he actually stood out as more impressive in previous editions.

definitely should’ve been a DQ
Psycho takes one step on the ropes, about as close as he’s getting to the Maximo big match dive

Dia de los Muertos, The Crash Anniversary tour begins, AAA in Queretaro, Castillo de Terror

CMLL tonight

IWRG (THU) 11/02/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Guerrero 2000 & Lunatic Xtreme b Alas de Acero & Shadow Boy
2) Lady Cat & Ludark Shaitan b Dulce Luna & Lili Dark
3) Pantera I © b Arez [IWRG IC Light]
3rd Defense
4) Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly, Eterno, Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible, Rafy b Heddi Karaoui, Hip Hop Man, Pantera del Japon, Pleitto Castillo, Taylor Wolf, Veneno
Imposible beat Hip Hop Man to win.
5) Black Warrior, Capo Del Sur, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Mr. Electro, Trauma II, Villano V Jr.
6) Spartan L La MoscaTrauma ICapo Del NorteLeoBlack DragónAramisDiablo Jr.Violencia Jr.Warrior Jr. [Castillo del Terror]
Spartan lost his mask to Black Dragon. Spartan is Victor Montes Martinez, from Acapulco, 43 years, 23 years a wrestler.

Spartan losing his mask now only is a surprise in that they didn’t find some way for all the Comando Elite to lose their masks at the same time. Arez losing terceras is a bigger surprise. Black Dragon, the hot IWRG rookie of the moment, is definitely not a surprise as a winner.

Travel Notice

I’m leaving for Mexico tomorrow morning, and will be there going to shows until 11/12 (the following Sunday.) I’ll be doing some of this stuff, and probably some podcasts, and maybe even other stuff, but I’m also trying to take it a little easier than usual. It probably won’t work and you’ll have 50 new posters on the lucharbot like normal but who’s to say.

CMLL

Today starts a big weekend, with CMLL, AAA and The Crash all busy. CMLL’s going to be the easiest one for you to follow, so it’s a good place to start. Tonight is the first of three Dia de los Muertos themed shows, where CMLL dresses the arena as if in an underworld theme. One or more wrestlers will stand on the stage in costumed as this year’s god, directing other wrestlers (all disguised in different costumes than usual) to drag the losers away to Hell as a punishment for their failure. It’s a quite a visual, and definitely worth checking out if you haven’t seen this show before. CMLL does a lot of local media promotion of these events, and the pageantry of the event alone should lead to one of the biggest non-apuesta turnouts of the year. CMLL’s Dia de los Muertos shows are not the Anniversario or Homenaje a Dos Leyendas in terms of turnout, but they’re probably doing the best of that second tier (and paying for the artists and design may be cheaper than paying for a mask or hair loss.)

The lineup is worth a watch even without the extra presentation, and that presentation doesn’t weight down the matches all that much. The big happening on the show is the Rey del Inframundo cibernetico. It’s designed to be the first of an annual competition, with whoever winning the belt this year possibly defending it next year. It’s a stacked group of eight – Valiente, Mistico, Soberano, Diamante Azul, Hechicero, Sanson, Cuatrero, and Forastero – where the biggest problem is that it comes on the heels of CMLL just doing another one of these. Hechicero’s arguable the least pushed of all the guys right now (maybe he’s ahead of Forastero), but he’s been used as the spokesperson for this Dia de los Muertos shows and stands a better chance of pulling off a big win anyway.

The actual main even is interesting, because it’s the Guerreros versus three tecnicos who do not get along at all. Caristico & Volador have spent the last couple of weeks taking shots at each other, and no one likes Rush. CMLL’s really not followed up on Volador & Caristico having issues since the Leyenda de Plata, but there’s a chance something more might happen between them or El Ingobernable.

The rest of the card includes Dalys defending the CMLL women’s championship against Marcela, the same match they did almost exactly one year ago. That show wasn’t the Dia de los Muertos show, but it was a Dalys successful defense and everything indicates this will be the same. Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja team with Stuka to face Cavernario, Negro Casas and Shocker. Puma, Tiger and Virus are usually a good trio, and they take on Drone and the two luchadors going to ROH, Esfinge & Rey Cometa. Astral & Robin face Artillero & Espanto in the opener; I think the Robin/Flyer/Magnus team got one match as a unit after they announced their group and haven’t even been together in openers since.

One last time: this show will air one hour later than usual if you didn’t change your clocks last week. Here in the US Central Daylight Time, that means it’s a 9:30pm start.

Wrestling With GIFs has a preview/introduction for everyone in the Rey del Inframundo match.

The Dia de Muertos shows continue this weekend. There may not be a show a month from now, though. Red Bull Batalla de Los Gallos announced they’ll be holding an event on 12/03 in Arena Mexico. That’s an international rap battle competition, and it’s on a Sunday at the traditional time for those shows. Not sure if that means more people will go to Guadalajara for the day or if they’ll run a show Coliseo or if they’ll just have the day off.

Esfinge expressed surprise that Esfinge was going to Ring of Honor.

The Crash

The Crash’s adventurous 11 shows in 13 days tour kicks off tonight in Guadalajara. The big show is tomorrow in Tijuana, and that’s the only one sure to make video. It looks like there’s a few changes on these lineups; Shane Strickland appears to be replacing Keith Lee, Lacey Lane will be in for Diosa Quetzal and I believe Rey Fenix is off the TJ show because AAW has him listed. (He wasn’t ever booked on tonight’s show.) Tonight’s Guadalajara show has a Flamita versus Sammy Guevera match, following up on a three way match with Rey Horuz in PWG that was said to be great.

Bernardo Guzman writes about the Crash’s big tour. I’ve written a lot about turnout, but the other thing to see is how the wrestlers hold up. These guys are wrestling a hard style and running as many days as the Crash is expecting to run is going to be a big workload. I’m sure they’ll do their best to manage the workload, and it’s a helpful to have different people main eventing in different places to keep people fresh and allow others to pace themselves.

Tickets for The Crash’s show as part of WrestleMania weekend are now on sale.

AAA

AAA is taping tonight in Queretaro. This is a show that was moved from their normal building to a much smaller one. No one reason was given; ticket sales are always the easy guess, but it’s possible something else was going on (AAA’s capable of concealing how full buildings are and changing locations is a nuisance, they wouldn’t be making this change unless they had to.) As always with 2017 AAA, there is a lineup, and we have no idea how many of the matches on the card will happen. It may be all of them, it may be none of them. It was one last time.

The listed main event on the announced lineup is three way with Texano Jr., Psycho Clown and Rey Escorpion. It’s supposed to be for Hijo del Fantasma’s Latin American championship, only Texano stole it from Fantasma seconds after he won it and still has it at last check. Escorpion & Psycho are also feuding, so the logical bit would be Texano getting the match with Fantasma. It’s AAA, so anything could happen, including a four way with everyone involved.

The other title match on the card is scheduled to be OGT challenging Poder del Norte for the AAA Trios Championships. Poder del Norte won the belts outright back on Heroes Inmoratles thanks to help from the OGT, who challenged for a shot after. OGT actually first asked for a shot way back in May, it’s come up a couple times and they may finally have the rudo vs rudo match here. (It seems like the OGT storylines get the most follow thru of everything in AAA. That was the same show where the briefcases were handed out, and we’ve seen how that’s gone.)

The rest of the show has matches. Some of them look pretty good. But there’s no telling if any of them are happening so we’ll move on.

Mesias isn’t on the card, and probably won’t be in action for a while. Puerto Rico’s Contralona mentions he underwent double knee surgery on Thursday. All wrestlers seem to have knee problems, but ones which require double knee surgery could explain why he’s not looked like himself in the ring for quite a while. It might explain the strange ending to his TripleMania match (which might have been a knee going out for real), and why his Heroes Inmortales match didn’t air. He was not moving well on the Lucha World Cup, but he was still wrestling as recently as this weekend’s run of sorta-Martinez shows in the US. No idea when he’d be back.

Everything else

I’ve failed to keep you updated on the happenings of Enamorándonos, an Azteca 7 show in Mexico that started as a dating show to have drifted into a typically strange Mexican variety show. (I fail on most Mexican cultural things, as non-Mexican not living in Mexico. This one of the twelve times a day where I wonder why I’m the one doing the and not the million people more qualified.) This seems like Multimedios’ Noches de Futbol, which started as a vaguely soccer related show and had signing & dancing contests and luchadors acting in skits last time I started it. Anyway, this was the show Dragon Rojo has been training a clown to fight Shocker, which is why neither has been around CMLL at the moment. The clown Oskarin won by DQ after being handcuffed to the ropes and other stuff happened, just watch it for yourself. This led to evil Shocker getting into an argument with special guest Cibernetico, and the two agreed a of match on 11/26 in Juan de la Barrera. A Shocker/Cibernetico match does not sound like something that will be getting a lot of stars (unless there’s a negative sign in front of them) but I’m curious to see if they can draw off this TV show. It worked for Noches de Coliseo, when they put Multimedios celebrities in the ring, but also people also bitterly complained it killed the wrestling business in Monterrey. I think the wrestling business tends to kill the wrestling business, but I guess we’ll see.

There was a Dia de Muertos altar put together by the local commission and arenas in Ciudad Juarez. Ari Romero, Fishman, Eddy Guerrero, and many more were remembered.

Caristico replaces Mistico against Sam Adonis on the 11/26 lucha libre show in Palmetto, Florida.

Heroes of Lucha Libre runs a second show in Ontario, California on 12/09. The main event is Rayo de Jalisco & Tinieblas vs Cibernetico & Trumposo, and Mistico & Dragon Lee face Sam Adonis & Russian Hacker in the semimain. The opener is Pierrothito & Demus taking on Octagoncito and Mini Rey Mysterio (the second Octagoncito), which sounds like it should be pretty good. It’s a bit of a surprise they’re running a second show after the first one didn’t draw close to what they were publicly expecting. Either they set the bar higher than it really needed to be or they’re pretty well funded.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Lineup

IWRG (SUN) 11/05/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Full Contact vs Skanda
2) Lunatic Xtreme vs Demonio Infernal
3) Hijo del Alebrije vs Cerebro Negro
4) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Liderk, Rayan, Spartan, Spector
5) Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible © vs Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly [EdM Trios]
first defense
6) Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. vs Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan Jr. and Trauma I & Trauma II
7) Emperador Azteca, Villano IV, Villano V Jr. vs Capo Del Norte, Capo Del Sur, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.

Missed this yesterday. The Diablos won the belts back in April, celebrated big, and never got around to defending them. Title change is possible.

lucha TV preview for weekend of October 27th

full size

CMLL Claro is the last stream that’s going to be affected by the time difference, at least for about five months. The show starts one hour later this week and this week only. It should be a show worth staying up for, but you can always watch it on YouTube the next day.

Not on the schedule, but there’s a chance the CMLL Sunday show ends up airing with no notice. They aired Dia de Muertos special in 2016, but not 2015. It’s a 5pm CT start if it airs, and it’s an ordinary looking show.

CMLL GDL has a Ultimo Guerrero vs Volador match this week. I’ll be trying to upload stuff from Mexico, but no idea if it’ll work.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-20 

Caristico gets back to his people

Recapped: 10/24/2017

Matches:

Disturbio & Sangre Azteca beat Oro Jr. & Star Jr.
(12:42 seen, 2/3, not rated, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Misterioso Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado beat Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Rey Cometa
(13:26 [5:49, 2:45, 4:52], 1/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr.
(18:25 [5:32, 3:22, 9:31], 1/3, great, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis in a relevos increíbles match
(8:59 [1:38, 7:21], 1/2, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero beat Diamante Azul, Mistico, Valiente
(9:50 [3:05, 2:12, 4:33], 1/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Volador Jr. beat Carístico in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match
(23:40 [3:04, 2:13, 18:23], 1/3, great, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Volador backcracker (3:04)

  2. Mistico torito (2:13)

  3. Volador top rope huracanrana (18:23)

What happened:

like old times

Carístico made a point of handingVolador the plaque himself and kneeling and bowing in front of him after the man event. Volador, who worked slight rudo during the match, kind of blew him off. Carístico seemed to be waiting for Volador to give him a handshake or something and Volador just left to go hang out with the fans. CMLL weirdly switched to playing Caristico’s music and the fans react to something. If it was Volador acknowledging Carístico, we were never shown it.

Sam Adonis taped Negro Casas to the ropes in the first fall, and shoved Tirantes for the first fall DQ. Adonis tried faking a foul in the second, but was caught and disqualified.

Thoughts: 

matador de leones

This was the Volador big spot match, but with the opposite crowd of usual. There definitely was a vocal part of the audience back to see their Mistico in a big match, they cheered their guy (outcheering the Volador fans early, 50/50 later) and Volador went a touch rudo. It wasn’t totally a peak Mistico match, Volador got his own stuff in and didn’t feed Carístico in an Averno like fashion, but it did feel a like throwback to an earlier time in moments. Both men took advantage of the emotion to deliver a strong performance. It got a little shaky late, but only after they had been given a lot. The fans desperately cared about who would win or lose this match, which is not something true about most CMLL matches. (The tournaments are too much, but those finals are the most often produced that emotion this year.) I got sucked in more by this match even though the work wasn’t as spectacular as the NGD trios, and I’d put it easily ahead of that match for me.

The semimain was alright, but lacked some sort of excitement outside of the diehards in for the main event booing Mistico. Classic match where everything was performed generally well but I can’t imagine remembering much about it a week from now. Diamante Azul being strong enough to toss the Guerreros around around and then not strong enough to properly toss Mistico for his headscissors was odd.

still hilarious

The Negro Casas/Sam Adonis feud needs something to liven it up. It’ll do fine, just like this match was fine. This just feels like a repetition of what Adonis has been doing for months with a different legend. It feels like they’ve cut down the Trump/patriotism aspect of the rivalry, where Blue Panther being defending the honor of the Mexican people was part of what drove the public reaction in the first feud. This match had some production issues near the end. Terrible had a great tope and Rey Bucanero flew in the crowd and we only saw only about half of either.

NGD and the Angels had an another exciting athletic match. The match was lifted by the spectacular técnico spots, but it really felt like the young rudos were holding it together at part. Soberano had some shaky moments while also pulling off crazy high spots. He’s the right mix of wildness to Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja’s predictability. Soberano’s tornillo is looking better every time, and the triple dive spot was nicely done. The breakup via move sequence was also pretty inventive. The big NGD matches tend to have more sequences and team spots than the most trios matches; not sure if that’s them, or if they’re such a focus that people are helping them include it, but it gives the matches a bigger feel. This was spectacular enough that it was worth a watch, though close to the borderline.

Volador stage dive

The segunda match was the normal second/third match with this group, plus some comedy. Sagrado is the tannest man alive. Others are as tan, but no one could be more than that he looked here. Cometa missing his sunset flip and crawling back was hilarious. So was Misterioso and Guerrero Maya going to do the star and then realizing they were on opposite teams. This match wasn’t anything special but it still was enjoyable.

The opener is missing a fall. The stream was not working on Friday, and that’s probably a result of CMLL trying to restart it to get it working. The video jumps about 9:48 but the same people stay in the ring so it’s not totally apparent anything’s missing until the next fall starts with the third fall sign. What we saw of the match was missing any excitement and sometimes sloppy. Everyone seems to mess up a spot right before the finish. This probably would’ve gotten a weak grade if aired in full.

Atlantis return plans, Naito & Takahashi one night in CMLL, Castillo del Terror

Today is IWRG’s annual Castillo del Terror show. IWRG shows are usually Wednesdays, but it’s a day late so the death of someone’s mask can align with the Dia de los Muertos. This cage match has been most notable for the way the results have happened rather than the results themselves. The 2015 cage match had el Golpeador accidentally fall of the side of the cage too soon, which should’ve meant intended winner Golden Magic lose his mask. IWRG went with the idea Magic won and Golpeador lose anyway, and the fans blamed Magic instead of Golpeador or the promotion. IWRG “fixed” this issue in 2106 by having Zatura dive off the top of the cage, sell an injury, and then everyone else left at the exact same time. Who knows what they’ll try in 2017.

the people in this cage match, grouped by chances they’ll lose their mask

Nope: Trauma I, Leo, Black Dragón, Aramis, Diablo Jr., Warrior Jr.
Long shot: La Mosca, Capo Del Norte
Maybe: Spartan, Violencia Jr.

Those young guys are going to be behind forever and are some level pushed. La Mosca is probably going home to Argentina at some point so losing his mask in this wouldn’t be as big deal, though still seems unlikely. The Capo gimmicks fit the mold of short term IWRG gimmicks where they’ll just stop existing after three months, but that time isn’t up yet. Spartan & Violencia fit the usual loser mold, recognizable figures from IWRG past who suddenly start showing up about a month before this match.

Arena Lopez Mateos has Rush & Pierroth against the LA Parks today.

At the end of yesterday’s Informa, CMLL announced Tetsuya Naito & Hiromu Takahashi (Kamaitachi) will be returning to CMLL for one night only, Sunday November 12th. (NJPW confirmed this later that night.) I believe they’re wrestling in the UK the days prior and the next NJPW tour starts day later – this is sort of a long layover in Mexico City on their way back home. Sunday CMLL shows are not streamed; even this upcoming Sunday show, the special Dia de Muertos show, has not been mentioned to be streamed. Naito CMLL matches have turned up on NJPW World at times, and it’s probably a better chance it’ll eventually turn up there than CMLL breaking from their normal practices.

In Japan, Naito’s been arguing the World Tag League, that next tour, is boring and so he has to make up for the poor effort of NJPW by creating his own drama. (NJPW fans seem to agree the WTL is boring.) Naito teases a big surprise partner every year as that missing hype. Two years ago, it was probably supposed to be Sombra, but it turned out to be EVIL since Sombra went to WWE. Last year was Rush’s return to NJPW. Rush makes the most sense again this year. Pierroth would be bad but hilarious. A new Ingobernable would be big news, especially since Rush has seemed to be pretty set on Los Ingobernables in CMLL being only him and Pierroth since La Mascara was fired. I don’t expect big things in the match itself because of the setup, but there’s a chance of a notable angle out of it.

Mr. Cacao will be on the 11/14 Tuesday show, and only that show. You’ll get to see that one

Atlantis talked with PubliMetro yesterday, which was billed as his first interview since being injured. His knee operation was on July 30th, and he’s hoping to return to the ring in late November or early December. He’s targeting a 2018 debut for his son; Atlantis wanted to help train him, and can’t do it until he’s healthy. Atlantis also teases a big project to be announced near the end of the year and to take place next year.

The director of Mexico’s Cineteca Nacional, the national institute in charge of preserving and honoring Mexico films, was asked if the organization would be honoring El Santo for his 100th birthday. The director said no, because Santo’s movies are bad. He acknowledged they were popular and made money, but felt they had no artistic value. You can imagine how well that one’s going over. Update: The reaction was strong enough that Cineteca Nacional is backing away from the statements of director and talking about honoring el Santo after all.

It’s way under the radar, but Volador Jr. is in the main event with recent AAA Llave a la Gloria winner The Tiger in Monclova today.

Wrestlers for The Crash will be on 12/25 show in Salon Citlali. Penta, Fenix, Latigo, Astrolux, Flamita, Arez, Black Terry and Skayde are among those on the poster; this is probably just using people who are already in Mexico City on that day.

Soberano hopes to be the first King of the Underworld.

Dave the Clown was the guest on this week’s Zona Ruda.

Segunda Caida resumes it’s watching of Lucha Underground again. More characters have been killed off in their reviews of this show than actually on the show at this point.

A new episode of Lucha Talk is up. I wish I could take credit for the title.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-10-17 

sure, a Raziel highlight.

Recapped: 10/23/2017

Matches:

Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia beat Angelito & Fantasy  
(13:16 [4:16, 4:09, 4:51], 2/3, below average,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Astral, Magnus, Metatrón beat Espanto Jr., Grako, Nitro
(14:22 [6:55, 3:49, 3:38], 1/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
(13:10 [6:47, 2:39, 3:44], 2/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Drone beat Raziel in a lightning match
(7:29, rope flip moonsault, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. beat Hechicero, Puma, Tiger
(17:47 [5:30, 3:53, 8:24], 2/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cavernario, Euforia, Felino beat Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja
(8:37 [4:59, 3:38], 1/2, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

no

Rudos won the main event in straight falls, with Cavernario beating Niebla Roja to set up a title match next week.

Thoughts:

The main event was the standard build up for a title match. Niebla Roja seems more comfortable unmasked and Cavernario’s post match promo was good, but there didn’t seem any special connection between the two of them during this match. Hopefully there will be more in the title match.

The semimain was easily and obviously the match of the night. They got as much time as anyone and made twice as good use of it. The rudos are as good at bumbling around to make the tecnicos look good as anyone: the third fall sequence with Maya in particular came off great. The técnicos bring great energy and it works perfectly for these crowds. This was just missing a bit more drama and bigger moves in the third fall to make it stand out more.

still no

The lightning match was the usual greatest hits bit with not much in between. Drone’s dives look good, Raziel’s top rope Falcon Arrow looked great, but there’s not much more to get out of it than the Gifs.

Isis came back from Japan with something to prove against Marcela, and then messed up a sunset flip. What can you do. She’s consciously trying to be more aggressive and it’s not really happening but it doesn’t matter. Wish they could’ve don more than 3 seconds of Maravilla vs Amapola.

this angle makes it look more devestating.

Grako was off in space for the first fall. Tecnicos were not solid and this match wasn’t exciting outside the last few seconds. The end of match sliding out of the ring felt like the dive ban was still back on.

Angelito’s new gear looks nice. His speed climbing to the top rope could stand to improve. Violencia violently botched something in the second fall, and messed up again in the third fall.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-10-16 

Cuatrero is done messing around

Recapped: 10/17/2017

Matches:

Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja  beat  Ares & El Perverso
(13:46 [7:12, 3:15, 3:19], 1/3, below average, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

El Malayo & Fuerza Chicana beat Lestat & Millenium  
(9:35 [4:30, 2:35, 2:30], 1/3, below average, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Asturiano, Eléctrico, Stukita beat Guerrero Espacial, Joker, Mercurio
(15:46 [7:14, 3:25, 5:07], 2/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cuatrero & Sansón © beat Esfinge & Stigma for the Arena Coliseo (DF) Tag Team Championship
(17:27 [6:40, 2:44, 8:03], 1/3, good, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico, Mistico, Volador Jr. beat  Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
(11:29 [3:48, 6:06, 1:35], 1/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Marco Corleone © vs Rush for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship
(9:47 [0:18, 2:20, 7:09], 1/3, good, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. DQ Rush belt shot (0:18)

  2. Rush corner dropkick (2:20)

  3. Marco Corleone back suplex side slam (7:09)

What happened: 

fun for all

Rush took the belt away from Marco and the commission during the title match presentation (though this was a battle), and hits Marco in the head with it. Marco’s bleeding near his eye next time we get a good look at his head; he got his hands up, but it looks like the belt wrapped around his arm and still struck him in the head. Rush is immediately disqualified in fall 1, but goes after the cut anyway. Rush stays in control thru the second fall, and Marco fights back in the third to keep the title.

Volador and Mistico didn’t want anything to do with Caristico during the match, even refusing to come back after Carístico was beat in the second fall. Volador stole Caristico’s pin in the third fall. They attacked and unmasked Carístico after.

The Dinamitas retained their title. Esfinge needed medical attention after attacking a Cuatrero crucifix powerbomb for the finish. It didn’t seem like a bad landing and could’ve just been selling the finish.

Hijo de Centella huts an ankle on an moonsault to end the second fall and is not a big part of the rest of the match.

Thoughts: 

an accidental version of the comedy rope running spot

The main event worked much better than expected, in part because the opening belt shot worked better than expected. The story of Rush ambushing Maroc and Marco having to fight his way back from a Rush beating to keep his title was a solid one, and the accidental blood made it even more dramatic. It didn’t feel like a usual match from either, there was more thought into it and definitely more effort than usual on Rush’s side. It’s still brief compared to a normal title match and Tirantes getting involved to stop Rush didn’t really help anybody, but the attempts to make Marco title matches interesting are working.

The semimain was more story telling of everyone hating Carístico that a match. In typical CMLL form, they missed the moment where Volador and Mistico actually attacked Carístico, but it was good otherwise. It sure is going to be weird when they go back to teaming like usual after this, but I still believed that would happen at this point.

Esfinge is not smooth

The Coliseo tag team title match was sloppy and not interesting for two falls, with the big moves in the third fall making it more watchable more than what preceded it. Stigma and Esfinge come off as knock off wrestlers from a promotion trying to imitate CMLL, doing a lot of spots bigger stars already do, but doing them with the polish or snap that makes those top guys better. Cuatrero angrily German suplexing Stigma for pinning his brother was pretty great.

Malayo stretches Asturiano

The comeback spot in the third fall of the minis match was super contrived by Asturiano & Stukita go to do splashes on the ramp and that was cool. I have no idea what Joker’s finish on Asturiano was supposed to be.

Opener was boring. The older Centella Roja isn’t good, and the third fall seemed like they gave up whatever they had planned once the younger Centella was hurt between falls. The segunda boring rudos / Millenium was also is not good. Neither worth was watching. It didn’t feel as bad as hyped on Twitter but I could not wait until moving onto something else.

CMLL Tuesday results, notes

don’t try to out corner charge Zeuxis

CMLL (TUE) 10/31/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Flyer & Magia Blanca b Apocalipsis & Cholo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
2) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita DQ Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
straight falls. Pierrothito unmasked Stukita for the DQ.
3) Zeuxis b Lady Maravilla [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Zeuxis won with La Roca in 8 minutes.
4) Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado b Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3, only losing the second by DQ.
6) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3.

The only thing I’ve seen is Zeuxis/Maravilla, which was exactly what you’d want out of that match.

Texano says he’s on Friday’s Queretaro show. My assumption that AAA was promoting the main event without mentioning him because he wouldn’t be there is wrong.  Your guess is as good as mine what the AAA matches will be.

Lucha Memes 11/20 Arena Naucalpan (Chairo 11) matches

The Crash says the Young Bucks are coming back soon. There’s no word on when.

The latest +Lucha podcast has interviews Jack Evans, Dragon Fly and Ricky Marvin.

Lucha Sorpresa has some recent lucha match recommendations.

Powerbomb.TV has started to upload content from Smart Mark Video. One of the shows up today includes a Mike Quackenbush vs Hijo del Santo match.

LuchaWorld has the latest news report.

Puebla’s lucha libre expo will be on 11/18 & 11/19.

NGX will have Jun Kasai vs Pagano on 12/02 in Monterrey.

Lineups

CMLL (TUE) 11/07/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Sonic vs Artillero & Grako
2) Eléctrico, Stukita, Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
3) Esfinge vs Disturbio [lightning]
4) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, Tiffany, Zeuxis
5) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero

Main event could be good, and there’s more names than usual on Tuesday, but there’s no big match on this Dia de Muerto show (as on Sunday.) Opener is Sonic’s streaming debut. Stukita and Pierrothito repeat after this week’s DQ.

CMLL (TUE) 11/07/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Tigre Blanco vs Guerrero de la Muerte & Ráfaga
2) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Lady Maravilla vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Reyna Isis
3) Fuego, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Puma, Sagrado, Tiger
4) Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Soberano Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Sam Adonis
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Also a show.

great match roundup, week of 2017-10-07

this is so late that these guys team is almost done

included in this group

It’s November and I’m posting the second week of October stuff. So it goes. GIF burn out is real. It looks like I actually had this specific post ready on October 17, but it took me two weeks to finish the Crash stuff. I guess you’re getting what you pay for.

This was the Leyenda de Plata week, which was really good. Taya/Sexy Star was better than Dalys/Sugehit live but I think the TV version was worse? I don’t know, it’s a long time ago. The real thing TV couldn’t capture is how cathartic it was to see Dante Fox & Killshot win together 24 hours after seeing them tear each other apart.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Carístico & Volador Jr. vs MephistoMisticoCavernarioNegro CasasDragón LeeSansónSoberano Jr.ForasteroGuerrero Maya Jr.VirusTitánPumaThe PantherTiger in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13 2017-10-13
good Dalys © vs Princesa Sugehit for the CMLL World Women’s Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09 2017-10-09
good Esfinge, Pegasso, Stigma vs Cuatrero, Sansón, Virus LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09 2017-10-09
good Sexy Star vs Taya [last luchador standing] Lucha Underground: 2017-10-11 2016-06-26
good Drago, Pindar, Vìbora © vs Dante Fox, Killshot, the Mack[LU TRIOS] Lucha Underground: 2017-10-11 2016-06-26
good Son of Havoc vs Pentagón Dark in a ladder match and [Gift of the Gods] Son of Havoc vs. Pentagon Dark - Lucha Underground; Ultima Lucha Tres (posted by El Rey Network) Lucha Underground: 2017-10-11 2016-06-25

Other things recorded

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Drago vs AerostarLa ParkaMocho Cota Jr.Carta Brava Jr. [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal] Ring Rock StAAArs 2017 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Septiembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07 2017-09-23
ok Monsther Clown vs Murder ClownDark CuervoDark ScoriaMarty The Moth [Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament semifinal match Ring Rock StAAArs 2017 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Septiembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07 2017-09-23
ok Súper Fly vs AvernoChessmanAustralian SuicideArgenis [Guitarra de Oro] and in a tournament semifinal match Ring Rock StAAArs 2017 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Septiembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07 2017-09-23
ok Texano Jr. vs Hijo del FantasmaEddie EdwardsJames StormEC3 [Guitarra de Oro, semifinal] Ring Rock StAAArs 2017 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Septiembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-07 2017-09-23
ok Astro & Meyer vs Joker & Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09 2017-10-09
ok Centella Roja & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Inquisidor & Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09 2017-10-09
ok Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Hechicero, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09 2017-10-09
ok Euforia, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero vs Rush, Sam Adonis, Terrible in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 9 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-09 2017-10-09
ok Bengala & Flyer vs Apocalipsis & Artillero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10 2017-10-10
ok La Vaquerita, Lady Maravilla, Marcela vs La Comandante, Metálica, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10 2017-10-10
ok Rey Cometa vs Pólvora in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10 2017-10-10
ok Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Máscara Año 2000, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10 2017-10-10
ok Cavernario, Felino, Terrible vs Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10 2017-10-10
ok Drone & Esfinge vs Cancerbero & Raziel LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13 2017-10-13
ok Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Luciferno, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13 2017-10-13
ok Diamante Azul, Kráneo, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Rush, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13 2017-10-13
below average Valiente vs Pierroth in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-10-13 2017-10-13
not rated Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado Disturbio Cmll presentación (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll, Sagrado y Misterioso Jr vs Fuego, Pegasso y Esfinge 1a caída (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll, Sagrado y Misterioso Jr vs Fuego, Pegasso y Esfinge 2a y 3a caidas (posted by Princesa Dorada) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 10 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-10 2017-10-10
watch later Flyer, Magnus, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Robin, Star Jr.vs Esfinge, Explosivo, Mágico, Omar Brunetti, Star Black, Vaquero Jr. in a cibernetico match Mexico City vs Guadalajara cibernetico from CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-10-07 (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-10-07 2017-10-03