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On Sunday, we went to Coliseo Coacalco and Arena Naucalpan, and caught two fun shows with two different audiences (and one Hip Hop Man.)

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Podcast is about 30 minutes – I went too fast, but Rob carried things by actually describing the matches. There’s no show to go to tomorrow, but there probably will be a podcast at some point.

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all minis show, Salon Citlalli

CMLL (SAT) 09/13/2014 Deportivo Tabasco, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), thecubsfan]
1) Pequeno Angel Magica b Zurdoxcito
2) Angelito & Stukita b Acero & Aéreo
best match of the undercard
3) Tackle (DF) b Kenawe
4) Mini Apache, Pentagoncito Black, Senor Muertico b Agulita Magic, Gitanito,Mascarita Magica
5) Panterita & Tritoncito b Chaneque & Mini Pirata Morgan
6) Bracito de Oro, Bracito De Plata, Bracito De Platino b Fantasy, Pequeño Jaque Mate, Pierrothito [Copa Pequeno Estrella]
Masakrito appeared with his old partners but did not wrestle
7) Astral © b Demus 3:16 [DF LIGHT]
Astral retained the title.
8) Bam Bam, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito ?? Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
scheduled main event, unsure what happened.


indy (SAT) 09/13/2014 Salón Citlalli, Ecatepec de Morelos, Estado de México [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), thecubsfan]
1) Lokillo b Psique
2) Fly Star & Toxin Boy L Rayo Star & Sky Man and Arceus & Corsario Negro Jr. and Rayo Sonico & Stukita
Winning team was to go onto the main event. Stukita & Rayo team was eliminated first, then the other three teams were all counted out. Referee ruled all three teams would go to the main event.
3) Destructor & Skull Metal b Aero Dinamyc & Principe A.
Rudos snuck in a double team after one team was eliminted to win.
4) Felina Metalica & Krazy Star b Goya Kong & Lluvia and Reyna Obscura &Sherry
Eliminations went Reyna, Krazy (both at about the same time), Goya Kong, Sherry and Lluvia last when Krazy Star came back in and distracted the referee so Felina could pull Lluvia’s mask and pin her. Challenges set up a Goya/Lluvia vs Felina/Krazy rematch next week.
5) Pólvora & Tritón b Rayo Star & Sky Man and Fly Star & Toxin Boy and Arceus & Corsario Negro

The indy teams did tons of moves, while the CMLL team did much less and did not get along. They still won.

Haven’t seen full results yet, but Fenix vs Pentagon Jr. vs Drago main evented Saturday night’s Lucha underground show and was said to be a great match. The mystery of Hijo del Fantasma not being booked anywhere was also solved: he was also at those shows, and the idea of focusing on only five AAA luchadors seems to be out.

AAA tapes today in Cancun and has Alberto in his first post-WWE official match. Diamante Azul and Euforia have a title match in CMLL.

Cavernario explains why he’s going to win on Friday.

El Sabor del Ring has five reasons Ultimo Guerrero will win.

Cronicas Y Leyendas looks back at the EMLL 8th Anniversary main event.

LuchaWorld has Fusion Pro Wrestling results and KrisZ’s news report

Ohtani’s Jacket reviews some early 1990s El Dandy.

Como Estaz 2×2: Aereo’s bite

Saturday, we saw an all minis show and a kinda-of indies versus CMLL event. We talk about them for about 40 minutes, plus/minus unexplained breaks.

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There were a few more people around the microphone (/cell phone with a recording app); I did something to improve the volume but I’m not entirely sure it worked. Hopefully everything comes thru. is the Sky Stars channel.


Ingobernables and Cavernario win prior to Anniversary show

photo by CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 09/12/2014 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro b Shockercito & Stukita
Rudos took 1/3
2) Misterioso Jr., Puma, Skándalo b Black Panther, Pegasso, Tritón
Rudos took 1/3
3) Cavernario, Pólvora, Rey Escorpión b Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
Rudos took 1/3 again, with Cavernario beating up Cometa early and beating him clean to end the match.
4) Fuego, Titán, Valiente b Ephesto, Hechicero, Niebla Roja
Fuego replaced Mascara Dorada (moved to different match) on Monday. Tecnicos tooks 2/3.
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Dorada replaced Dragon Rojo (who did appear on commentary). Tecnicos won in straight falls when Thunder attacked everyone, including catching Marco’s Air Italia and slamming him.
6) Diamante Azul, La Máscara, Rush b Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker
Tecnicos took 1/3 in a brawl.

Nothing changes for next Friday. Brazo de Plata is the Dragon Rojo replacement on Tuesday. Thunder deal came off like they were trying to not just turn him rudo, but make him a new top of the card rudo. I would guess more of the same next week.

Lucha Underground resumes taping today. Fenix, Pentagon and Drago are on the shows, but Ricochet/Prince Puma will not be – he’s off to Evolve for the weekend.

AAA’s TV will air Myzteziz vs Perro Aguayo Jr. today.

Electroshock and Gronda are at the Hard Rock Show in Cancun, even though they weren’t on the card. Guess they are now.


IWRG FILL (TUE) 09/16/2014 Arena Naucalpan
1) Black Niko, Vardeus, Voltar vs Mercenario De La Muerte, Sexy Girl, Último Caballero
2) Chicanito & Vampiro Metálico vs Ciclon & Guerrero 2000
3) Black Cobra, Extraño, Galaxy vs Fly Boricua, Magnum 44, Mardux Jr.
4) Alfa, Omega, Sky Ángel vs Atomic Star, Hip Hop Man, Matrix Jr.
5) Chucho el Roto, Dante, Euro, Ironía, Sider, Sky Flay, Super Terry, Yakuza vs Andy Boy, Ciclon, Dr. Killer, Guerrero Mixtico, Haziel, Karate Kid, Orión, Tony Rivera [Copa High Power]
AULL vs Neza Boys
6) Anubis Black, Capitán Muerte, Emperador Azteca, Látigo, Metaleon, Power Bull, Saruman, Zurdog vs Alan Extreme, Apolo Estrada, Avisman, Canis Lupus, Eterno, Golden Magic, Imposible, Veneno [Copa HIgh Power]

A double Copa High Power show! There are so many interesting cards on Tuesday, and pretty much none on Monday and Wednesday. They’ll do well because it’s targeting the casual fans who will go to a show on a holiday, but the hardcore fan in me really wishes they’d spread those out a bit better.

Como Estaz 2×1: waiting for Hechicero

We’re back in Mexico, so the podcast makes an unlikely return.

Listen as we struggle with the combination of jet lag and a sometimes boring CMLL show!

Marvel at my inability to improve the sound quality!

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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-08-16


taped 2014-08-05 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
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great match roundup, week of 2014-08-16

Great/Excellent matches
AAA on Televisa: 2014-08-16
Angélico vs Hijo del Fantasma, Australian Suicide, Fénix, Bengala, Jack Evans, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr., Daga ©, Bengala for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship: [GREAT]
Psycho Clown vs Texano Jr., hair/mask: [GREAT]

Shows Watched But Nothing Made The List
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-08-16
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-08-16
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-08-16
AAA on Televisa: 2014-08-16

Matches To Watch Later
IWRG Zona XXI: 2014-08-16
taped 2014-08-13 @ Arena Naucalpan
Golden Magic © vs Canis Lupus for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship:
Alan Extreme, Black Terry, Metaleon vs Ironía, Spider Boy, Yakuza [captains hair]


Mexico preview, IWRG lineup

The focus of tonight’s Arena Mexico card is on next week’s semimain. La Mascara & Rush team with Diamante Azul to face Shocker and Negro Casas (tag team champs) along with Mr. Niebla to set up next week’s title match. Cavernario and Cometa meet in the tercera. Atlantis is not booked this week, while Ultimo Guerrero is in action in the semimain.

Well wishes for CMLL’s anniversary show include Tanahashi picking Atlantis to win (near the end)

Rob has highlights of this year’s Verano de Escandalo

LuchaWorld has a review of Block B of the CMLL Universal tournament and 50 to 40 on the best of 2013 list.

Segunda Caida reviews Negro Casas, Shocker, Terrible vs Máximo, Rey Escorpión, Rush in a relevos increíbles match

Starfire lost to Io Shirai in her second Stardom 5GP match.

Atlantis says he always knew they’d have the mask match this year after last year’s near miss.

There’s a new (small) El Santo statue in Mexico CIty

La Parka met a giant 11 year old.


IWRG (SUN) 09/14/2014 Arena Naucalpan 
1) Alfa & Omega vs Anubis Black & Araña de Plata 
2) El Divo & Silver Star vs Freyser & Hip Hop Man 
3) Dr. Cerebro, Kenshi Kabuki, Relámpago vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo 
4) Hijo De Dos Caras, Súper Nova, Veneno vs Demon Clown, Eterno, Oficial AK47 
5) Cien Caras Jr., Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 Jr. vs Canis Lupus, Trauma I, Trauma II

Rudos contra rudos in the main event.

09/12-14 lucha times

This might be the last post before I leave for Mexico. (Except for the 15 I just wrote up.) Again, I’ll do my best to record and upload anything, but no promises – less promises than usual, anyway.


== AAA ==

AAA-Televisa: Part 1 of Pachuca. Myzteziz/Perro probably deserves a week of hype, so maybe Super Fly/Aerostar this week?

== CMLL ==

FOX2: Ingobernables versus Peste Negra, Rey Cometa versus Cavernario

52MX: Atlantis, Valeinte, Volador vs Euforia, Rey Escorpion, Ultimo Guerrero

Claro: Diamante Azul, Mascara Dorada, Valiente vs Euforia, Ephesto, Mephisto

C3: Super Porky, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible

TVC Deportes (Puebla): Next in line is the Electrico/Espiritu Maligno title match

Lucha Azteca: CMLL Universal final airs this week.

Terra Sunday: Diamante Azul vs Euforia

== Other ==

Noches de Coliseo: probably reruns

IWRG (LAS/AYM): Diva Salvaje, Relampago, Veneno vs Canis Lupus, Eterno, Oficial Ak47


Heroes Inmortales in SLP, lumberjack fight in IWRG, Lucha Underground

IWRG (WED) 09/10/2014 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring]
1) Galaxy COR Matrix Jr.
Matrix was hurt and strechered out.
2) Alfa & Omega b Atomic Star & Capitán Muerte
3) Apolo Estrada Jr., Dragón Celestial, El Divo b Guerrero Mixtico Jr., Hip Hop Man, Picudo Jr.
Apolo Estrada replaced Silver Star (and “El Divino” was Monterrey’s El Divo.) Guerrero Mixtico Jr. and Picudo replaced Rayan and Spartan.
4) Chucho el Roto, Ironía, Yakuza b Alan Extreme, Imposible, Miss Gaviota
Miss Gaviota & Alan Extreme replaced Kenshi Kabuki & Metaleon. Team AULL wins again.
5) Diva Salvaje, Relámpago, Veneno b Canis Lupus, Eterno, Oficial AK47 [lumberjack strap]
luchadors in the match got annoyed with being strapped so much by the lumberjacks, so they stole the strap and attacked the lumberjacks. Tecnicos beat the rudos in the ensuing chaos.

A show! A show with a lot of replacements.

Taya posted her schedule for the next month or so on Facebook (screen captured here). She’s working the 10/10 Tlahuelilpan taping, and also the 10/12 Heroes Inmortales show in San Luis Potosi. That’s the first I’ve seen of a date/location for Heroes Inmortales, but it was expected AAA would start talking about it this weekend on TV. There’s nothing apparent for the show: they’ve got Cancun, a mystery taping and Tlahuelilpan left prior to it, but I’d bet on another random tournament.

This week’s Tercera Caida is up. They had Extreme Tiger as guest for the after the show segment.

Llaves and Canados/ColiseoMania has announced future shows on 11/02 and 11/30.

Arkalis talks about his upcoming Puebla debut.  He mentioned being trained by Massenger Z, Malayo, Centella de Oro, and more recently Skayde and Black Tiger.

The LLF Extreme show featured good matches and a TLC match which ended in a double pin draw somehow.

Maki Narumiya, who recently traded back and forth the REINA International Junior title with Silueta, and Makoto announced they’d be coming to CMLL on 10/12. They’ll be around for a couple of weeks.

The Wrestling Observer, who’s take on the Lucha Underground project makes me look sunny and optimistic, found out the names some of the various characters. Ricky Reyes will be Cortez Castro, Lil Cholo will be Cisco and Esekiel Jackson is using Big Ryck. The evil management figure’s name remains unknown, with the best guess is he’s an actor they brought in (and can be assumed not to be wrestling if that’s the case.) It also mention some deal was worked out to allow Ricochet to continue working Evolve shows. (It’s unmentioned if it extends to Japan.) It had a different more specific version of the end of the second episode: Chavo Guerrero Jr. runs off non-Mesias, lays out Demon, lays out referee one, lays out referee two, lays out B-Boy, lays out Famous B, lays out Sexy Star, goes back to beat up Demon and then sits in a chair and laughs as the show apparently ends. That does seem the right moment to laugh.

PWInsider says Matt Striker and Ivelisse Velez, who both appeared on the first set of Lucha Underground tapings, did sign contracts and are pulling out of conflicting indy dates. They also mention Brian Kendrick was offered a deal but turned it down. The WON is under the impression that everyone else who rumors but who didn’t show up just did not sign a deal. Meltzer is harsh on this point, pointing how much money was spent on the set and how much it costs to tape one episode a night (instead of two or three and doing less dates) and yet apparently were cheap when it came to spending on talent.

Pentagon, Drago and Fenix’s happy messages on Twitter confirm what I’ve heard elsewhere, that they’ll actually get to wrestle this week. The one (largely unintentionally) advantage of doing only one taping a night is there’s only two weeks where those guys do not appear, not a month or two. I’d still mess around with the airing to make sure their are two actual luchadors doing lucha libre on the main event of the first show of something Lucha Underground.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida really liked the Virus/Dragon Lee lightning match.

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