great match roundup, week of 2016-09-10

you can easily imagine how this was originally Killshot grabbing the dog tags off the ladder and then double stomping Marty to death.
you can easily imagine how this was originally Killshot grabbing the dog tags off the ladder and then double stomping Marty to death.


Recommend Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great DJZ vs Gringo Loco for the hair Miscellaneous Live Recordings: 2016-09-11 2016-09-11
great Killshot vs Marty Martinez [weapons of mass destruction] Lucha Underground: 2016-09-14 2016-03-19

Everything else


Volador/Cavernario tonight, Angel de Oro to ROH, Lashley & Strong Man to Elite


The biggest match on this week’s show is the same match as last week. Cavernario and Volador have another singles match, this time for Volador’s NWA Historic Welterweight Championship after Cavernario got the win over Volador in the Reyes del Aire show. Both men did just about everything they can do last week, so the challenge will be find something else to do this week. (It should still be pretty good if they don’t, but it’s going tough to be unique.) Cavernario winning would mess up the Universal math, but there’s no sign of that happening any time soon and it may not be a concern at this point. Cavernario winning would also be an indication of how serious CMLL takes this feud; if Cavernario wins singles matches two straight weeks, they may actually be doing the teased hair match. (If he doesn’t, it just goes into the pile of feuds they can bring back some rainy day.)

Cavernario told ESTO he was surprised to make the Reyes del Aire final and was nervous going in. He also talked about working on his accounting degree: he plans on being a luchador for a long time, but wants a backup in case he ever can’t do it. He likes studying like he likes lucha.

There’s ongoing story line on the show, so the main event and second most hypest match is the Munoz brothers teaming up in the main event. Dragon Lee, Mistico and Rush take on Mephisto, Euforia, Ultimo Guerrero. The booking of that family has been inconsistent of late, even for CMLL. Dragon Lee and Rush were supposed to be on opposite sides after the Anniversary show, and they haven’t done anything with it for a month. Maybe it’ll make more sense after this match.

The rest of the show are matches, though generally OK to good looking matches. Atlantis, Valiente and Mascara Dorada face Dragon Rojo, Polvora and Felino (though CMLL’s own preview still lists Super Crazy.) The women’s match is Marcela, Lluvia and Princesa Sugehit against Dalys, Tiffany, and Amapola. Puma & Tiger continue to make a strange home in the segundas, teaming with Okumura against Hombre Bala Jr., Star Jr. and Soberano Junior. Ultimo Dragon & Fantasy vs Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Nitro is the opener.

CultIcon also previews the show. The show airs at 8:30pm on Clarosports. I’m not going to be around, but I’m going to try to somehow record this.

CMLL announced the dates for the Dia del Muertos shows. They seemed successful last year, and they’re going to double the amount of dates to see if it holds up. There will be themed shows on 10/25 (Tuesday), 10/28 (Friday), 10/30 (Sunday), and 11/01 (Tuesday.) The Friday show was an iPPV last year. It’d make sense for it to be again, but there’s not as strong a reason to buy it on Friday if the same concept is airing on two Tuesdays for free.

Elite also tapes today, with a main event of Caristico & Xtreme Tiger versus LA Park & Rey Escorpion taking place in Cuautitlan. The post-CMLL Elite TV has not been strong: the match quality has dropped with the lack of depth, and they’re really lacking any destination. The Liga Elite matches provided both good matches and at least a theoretical end point. It’s just matches to have matches, with even less of a focus on a direction than CMLL, and the matches have to be much better than they’ve been to make that work. Whoever’s putting the cards together doesn’t seem to have a great grasp on what combinations make for good matches, or lacks the available wrestlers to put together good combinations. The semimain is a good example of it: Black Tauro (ex-Taurus AAA) debuts and is really great against high flyers, but he’s facing Guapos Zumbido & Decnnis and Mr. Aguila. Aguila of a decade or more ago would be a great opponent for Taurus. The Aguilas of today are guys like Golden Magic, el Bandido and Ultimo Ninja, but they’re facing the problematic trio of Argos, Karonte Jr. and Hijo de Dos Caras. That main event is the best set up match, but also just happens to be that way because those are the top stars who are around this week.

La Parka and Hijo del Tirantes are very critical of Jack Evans’s critical comments of AAA. They specifically seem upset about Jack calling Parka a terrible wrestler (which Jack did somehow turn into a compliment about Parka still being way over despite it and how he had to learn from that.) Jack may have gotten himself into some serious trouble this time. There are people frustrated in post-Konnan AAA, but there’s also plenty who are happy with AAA and/or believe you should never be publicly critical of the company you work for.

Mascara Dorada suggested he’s now hoping to be in CMLL in November, which is a few weeks later than usual. Mascara Dorada has said he won’t be on 10/16 Lucha Libre Boom show in Naucalpan (it sounded like they never asked him). I wonder a bit about that lineup, since Septimo Dragon seems wrongly listed as well – he’s probably working the Mucha Lucha Atlanta show that day instead.

Angel de Oro is ROH’s surprise CMLL inclusion for their shows next week. He’ll face Nick Jackson, ACH and Kamaitachi in a four way in Chicago Ridge, then Kamaitachi one on one in Dearborn.

This is a less than inspiring choice for a long term diehard fan – Angel de Oro isn’t too popular, and is one of the guys most likely to have the same exact match every time out – but he did get over in his NJPW tour because it was all new to the fans. It’s also possible this was a last minute decision and they didn’t have a wide group of people to choose from: ROH needed to replace the mysterious Matt Sydal, and they may have not even considered a CMLL guy before Dragon Lee got over this past week. And it’s not like ROH is really marketing much towards CMLL fans in the first place – this is just scans as “random luchador!” for more people going to this show. Still, I’d probably go to the Chicago Ridge show if this was someone cool, and this is is not someone who’s going to get me to go. I could still watch Tanaka & Komatsu and ask them why they’re so scared of the Panthers that they left Mexico (not the real story).

I was on the Winter Palace talking about the latest stuff in lucha libre.

AAA posted photos from the Antonio Pena mass.

ROH says today they’ll a CMLL participant for their shows next weekend in Chicago and Dearborn. It’d be funny if it was just Triton, since he’s still in the area.

TKD and Voices of Wrestling have reviews of this week’s Lucha Underground.

Wrestling With Words also has reviews of Rey Misterio Heredero vs Imposible, Guerrero Maya vs Hechicero and Barbaro Cavernario vs Volador Jr.

LigerFever has started a tumblr to post all his translations.

Real Hero posted two recent Flamita match from Dragon Gate: an atomicos including Akira Tozawa and a trios match from 09/25.


ELITE (FRI) 11/04/2016 Gimnasio Agustín Millán, Toluca, Estado de México
1) ? & Lady Maravilla vs ?? & Muñeca De Plata
2) Ciclón Ramírez Jr., Hijo del Pantera, Jinzo vs Eterno, Fresero Jr., Imposible
3) Octagón & Xtreme Tiger vs Flamita & Fuerza Guerrera
4) Rey Escorpión vs LA Park [Liga Elite]
5) Blue Demon Jr. & Bobby Lashley vs Silver King & Strong Man
6) Carístico vs Cibernético [Liga Elite]

This is a month away, light years into the future for Elite, but tickets are already on sale so the lineup is as well. I say this every single time: Toluca is a great crowd for TV tapings. They’re getting a bizarre show. Caristico/Cibernetico is the biggest match Elite has to offer, and they’re in the main event. Bobby Lashley, last reported by Elite as unable to return to Mexico, is able to return to Mexico – and he’s facing Strong Man! I wasn’t even sure if Strong Man was still wrestling (he doesn’t turn up in results since 2014, hasn’t been in CMLL since 2011), but he was just featured in the Lucha Mexico documentary and I’d guess the connection is Shocker.

Flamita & Octagon on opposite sides of a match is interesting. I’m sure the idea is Octagon & Fuerza and Tiger & Flamita mostly work against each other, but I have some doubt that one is going to happen and will until it does.

CMLL on 2016-09-16 


Recapped: 10/03/2015

What happened:  CMLL honored legends by putting them in the ring. Many should’ve passed on that honor. Matt Taven debuted and cheated to beat Rush. Rey Escorpión had his last match as an Ingobernable, though no one knew it at the time.

What was good: The main event was the worst match on a major show in any promotion in the world this year.

I liked the two current day CMLL matches, and the third match was the most salvageable of the legend matches.

Where can I watch it: I watched it on RockerGamer’s channel. I think. (more…)

lucha TV preview for weekend of October 8th


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AAA starts to air Heroes Inmortales this week, though we won’t know whihc matches until they post the preview. 7 matches is usually one more match than they air over two weeks, which is now a bit concerning to a person who may have committed to writing about this show for another outlet. Maybe keep an eye on the YouTube channel.

CMLL on Tuesday is a good test for Diamante Azul. If you can’t have a good match with Rush, you may be beyond hope.

Lucha Underground’s preview also mentions Rey/Chavo stuff, and Havoc/Mascarita coming back for revenge on Wagner/Famous B.

For what it’s worth, Lucha Libre Retro is back on the Fox Sports Deports schedule, at least in some places, for Friday 10/15 at 9pm. That’s up against the normal Friday show.

Lucha Azteca7 Elite: 2016-09-10

Extreme Tiger cleans house
Extreme Tiger cleans house

Recapped: 10/03/2016

What happened: I finally got back to recapping after a break. Elite taped their first show outside of Arena Mexico, moving to Arena Naucalpan for what would be a two week stint. This is their first TV show without CMLL, which is not acknowledged during the show. The show generally feels like they’re just putting out a card to fill out TV time, and haven’t yet figured out how the show is going to work with most of the Liga Elite guys no longer available. (Even near a month later, it’s unclear if they’re figured it out.) This show is really not notable outside of it being the start of the post-CMLL era; nothing really happens besides Rey Escorpion showing up at the end and Octagon & Fuerza having another singles match. 

What was good: Nothing much. There were good spots, but the action never held up thru a whole match.

Where can I watch it: The YouTube Liga Elite channel. (more…)

Alberto, CMLL/ROH, Guadalajara results

CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno b El Divino & Nautilius
Truenos took 1/3.
2) Joker, Metálico, Sangre Azteca b Sensei, Soberano Jr., Star Black
Rudos took 2/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Sagrado b Esfinge, Fuego, Rey Cometa
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Dragón Lee, Máscara Dorada, Mistico b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 2/3. Mistica on Mephisto.
5) Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. b La Máscara, Negro Casas, Shocker
Tecnicos took 2/3, setting up a Valiente/Volador vs Casas/Shocker tag title match next week.

Super Crazy was listed on Monday and Friday’s CMLL shows. He’s now been replaced by Felino on both shows. No idea where he stands. La Jarochita also replaces Estrellita on Saturday..

The Alberto story remains strange. Yesterday, in Record, Leo Riano explained what happened with Alberto to his readers. In this version, Alberto and Paige are leaving the restaurant when a homeless guy attacked him with a knife and stabbed him twice. Alberto was able to stop the attacker even while being stabbed, but Paige got hit in the fight (though not stabbed), Alberto checked on her, and the attacker got away. Alberto & Paige were at the police office and got medical attention until 11 pm, and Alberto couldn’t make his 6pm flight to Monterrey.

There’s two differences which jump out from the MLW version. For one, Paige was not mentioned on that version. There is an explanation there – on his podcast, Dave Meltzer mentioned he was originally told Paige was there, and Court Bauer excluded from his story for whatever reason. (Maybe simply privacy, same reason other details could be left out.) The other difference is MLW’s version had Alberto’s car being hit by another car with the driver attacking Alberto, and this version has Alberto walking to his car and attacked by a homeless person. That one is hard to reconcile.

(The 6pm flight is weird too. AAA seems to allow expensive foreigners to fly in on the day of the show – it’s messed them up with Jeff Jarrett a couple of times – but that would mean Alberto would’ve been arriving during the show. And it’d suggest AAA either knew he didn’t get on the plane or gave up on him showing up really quickly after his flight came in, since they switched the matches around fairly quick. I think the flight time is most likely wrong.)

Meltzer notes that the San Antonio police seemed to not know anything about the story. Ryan Satin mentioned he was told there were no stabbing reports this weekend. PWInsider was told there was one stabbing that weekend but it wasn’t Alberto (though it’s always possible it could’ve not been in San Antonio itself.) Local San Antonio news says they asked police and were told they couldn’t find anything without an address. They asked Alberto and his agent for more info, and did not hear back. (I could understand wanting to keep it private, but they invited more speculation by going to their friends in the media to get their story out.)

SuperLuchas had a story about the five different versions of this story, and that’s before the Record story.

Alberto is scheduled to wrestle today in the UK. The Wrestling Observer also writes about Lucha Ilimitado’s own issues with working with Alberto for their 10/12 show in Yakima. Alberto had them change his flight three times, pulled out of the show just an hour after they changed it for a third time (Jeff Hardy replaces him against Rey Mysterio), offered to pay for the publicity materials as a make good, then never paid. There were promotion who had similiar problems with Alberto during his previous trip into the indies too, though obviously not everyone had a bad experience. Alberto seemed to have no problem working The Crash, even over AAA’s objections.

The WON mentions the original plan for the Rey Fenix/Mascara Dorada match was for Dorada to lose, but he refused. (It may have been his own decision, but WWE historically has pressured incoming wrestlers not to lose singles before they come in – that might have been the issue with the Cavernario match too.) When Dorada said no, Fenix also decided he wouldn’t lose, and that’s how they ended up with the double countout.

Dragon Lee noted on Informa that no one knew who he was when he came to ROH, but they were huge fans the next day. It was embarrassing how ROH decided to not to introduce Dragon Lee or promote his match with Kamaitachi at all. Maybe Dragon Lee opened more eyes than just the fans; ROH was asking people who else from CMLL they wanted to see yesterday, and said they were close to finalizing CMLL person for their 12/02 Final Battle show. Barbaro Cavernario, who was probably unaware of this conversation, said he was close to going to ROH. He would make sense as the pick.

(Dragon Lee is owed a TV title match, so it might be him too – but that also seems like a match that might play better on their WrestleMania weekend show. The WON review of the Lee/Fish match said it was not any good.)

IWRG is updating their Youtube channel for the first time in two years. They’re posting matches from when I was there, which is a while ago. It’d be great if they kept it up, since they’re going to get better looking footage than I can capture off of AYM’s low quality transmission.

Extreme Tiger vs Rey Fenix vs Fly Warrior was announced for 10/22 CaraLucha. He may be Rey Fenix, but everyone is using his Lucha Underground championship photo for posters.

Lucha Memes has a 10/23 show in Coacalco (Chairo Bill Vol 2)
1: Titan (or probably a replacement) vs Sammy Guevara
2: Impulso vs Mike Segura
3: Alberto Dos Rios vs Negro Navarro
4: Dragon Lee vs Ronnie Mendoza

Two things about names. One, CMLL trademarked Los Ingobernables and Dragon Lee on 09/02, the same day as the anniversary. That doesn’t mean a lot for making CMLL money, since they don’t do a lot of marketing, but it means someone can’t take those names elsewhere. Dragon Lee’s said he was invited to the CWC this past year; if he is again next year, he’d need a new name (like Dorada/Metalik.) It’d also make it impossible for Rey Escorpion to still be a Ingobernable in Elite (though he’s not trying to do that.) CMLL had long ago trademarked La Mascara.

Two, back in Mexico, we (or more Rob) actually asked Jinzo/Ronnie Mendoza/Raul Mendoza if being called three different names seemed like a big problem for him. He didn’t seem concerned, pointing out Lightning Kid/1-2-3 Kid/Syxx/X-Pac was known by different names and it worked out OK for him.

CultIcon reviews last night’s Lucha Underground

LuchaWorld has the latest edition of podcast and the news update.

AAA posted photos from the annual mass to remember Antonio Pena.

Hechicero says his goal is to headline an Anniversary show or a Dos Leyendas.

Ephesto wants the singles match with Johnny Idol!

Dragon Rojo writes about training the police.


Drago was added to 11/12 JAPW show in New Jersey. Aerostar was previously announced for that show, and both and Taya are on a show this Saturday in Minneapolis. Of the Lucha Underground group, we’ve seen Fenix & Drago work a lot of indies (and the most high profile ones), Drago & Aerostar get brought in a lot but more recently for smaller groups, and no one else from AAA really break out as of yet, at least thru AAA booking them. Taya, Angelico, Jack (& Rey Fenix now) seem to be booking themselves out and doing well, while guys like Texano, Mil Muertes/Mesias and Cuerno/Fantasma haven’t really gotten the benefit yet.

Thunder Rosa (Kobra Moon) and fellow California luchadora Holidead will participate in Stardom’s Goddess of Stardom tag league. The tournament runs from 10/23 to 11/11.

Lucha Underground 3×5: The Prince and The Monster

Matanza is sudden and strong
Matanza is sudden and strong


Ivelisse defeated Mariposa (6:16, sunset flip powerbomb, OK)

Cage defeated Texano (6:26, F5, good)

Matanza defeats Puma (12:57, Wrath of the Gods, great)


post match was more fun than the match
post match was more fun than the match

The Dial of the Doom was a big part of the show for the third time this season, though a little differently than before. Dario spun the wheel at the start of the show, and landed on Puma. He declared that would be the main event, not the immediate match the last two occasions. It was a main event quality match, both entertaining and Puma coming as close to a win as anyone besides Pentagon Dark. Puma landed the 630 in the corner, but was immediately speared by Mil Muertes. Dario ordered the referee to not call the DQ. Striker drew attention to how Matanza was slow to get up and might have not kicked out had their been a cover (and ignored how close he was to the ropes.) Matanza and Mil, meeting for the first time on this show since their Grave Consequences match, had a brief glare before Matanza finished off Puma himself. Vampiro continues to push the idea that Puma needs to get in touch with his dark side (not in those words) to reclaim his spot, but attacking Muertes to do so might have cost him the title here.

We’ll have to wait until next time to see who gets Puma’s spot on the wheel. Ivelisse got the Mack’s spot, but her name obviously didn’t come up. Instead, she had an ordinary match with Mariposa. Ivelisse won despite Marty interfering, and suffered an attack from the siblings after the match. Later, as Ivelisse was recovering in the locker room, her new boyfriend caught up with her – he missed her match, tried to cover by saying he figured she would be in main event, and threatened to break the face of the Martinez’s for attacking her. His name is Jeremiah (the debuting Sami Callihan) and he seems like a wonderful total scumbag. Ivelisse wanted him to stay out of it, to keep her Lucha Underground life separate from her real life, but I don’t think any of this is going to work out well for her.

also couldn't think of a lot to GIF in this one
also couldn’t think of a lot to GIF in this one

Cage beat Texano to go up 2-0 in their best of 5. It was more of a brawl, but Cage is dominant in the standings. He’s one win away from an opportunity. I guess Mundo is also one win away from an opportunity, but he can’t seem to get that right win and is upset about having to do it in the first place. For about the third time in five episodes, Mundo demanded Dario give him a title shot against Matanza or Sexy Star, and he got turned out down again. Mundo pointed out his team won the atomicos match, and Dario pointed out Jack actually got the win, so Jack will get a shot against Sexy Star next week. Mundo is less than thrilled with Dario’s booking.

The preview mention seeing the Rabbit Tribe. We got a vague :30 teaser for the Rabbit Tribe that seemed to have less info than the preview. The previewed mention a chilling message for Killshot. We got just that. Joey Ryan said a mystery man handed him an envelope to hand to hand to Killshot. (Given Joey’s current status quo, who knows about any of his stories.) Inside was simply a message saying “You Left Me For Dead.” Back in his intro vignette, Killshot mention he believed he was the only one of his unit to make it out alive from being a prisoner of war. Looks like he might have not been wrong on that one, or maybe not telling the truth.


Matanza kicks Puma's head off
Matanza kicks Puma’s head off

Main event really brought the show up. It was a very competitive and exciting match. I’m willing to trade Matanza’s reduced invulnerable for more of him just tossing people around like a ragdoll. Puma can be a pretty good ragdoll, and he can impressively knock Matanza around. They went 12 minutes and felt like they were just starting to get into an exciting end game; there’s a lot more here if they have a chance to get back to it. Mil costing Puma the match was a rare interference bit that got an actual angry reaction from the crowd. I think they’re ready to see that match.

The opener was perhaps Lucha Underground’s best argument yet for intergender wrestling, because the woman versus woman match wasn’t all that interesting. I rated it OK and that feels generous: it was a slower speed match than normal LU, the action wasn’t as good, and there were some noticeable edits/framing to hide some moves not looking good. Mariposa’s in storyline performance hasn’t been great – she’s in danger of Catrina sucking out her soul too – and her actual work on this show has been disappointing on this show. I still love the No Mas match, but nothing else has been much good. The promise of this being a mixed tag feud was not promising. (On the other hand, Jeremiah does seem like he’ll be entertaining at least – he had a pretty good sense of his character in his first time out.)

Cage/Texano was definitely better this time (though “This Is Awesome” chant four minutes in was a bit much, or we missed a whole lot.) The concept itself isn’t working as well this time. Drago & Aerostar were about on the same level when they did this. Cage has had title challenges on both seasons, Texano has…been on both seasons, and Cage dominating the series is re-enforcing those standings. Hopefully Texano’s inevitable comeback will give people a better reason to care about him and this series.

Matanza is sudden and strong
Matanza is sudden and strong
Puma is strong too
Puma is strong too

more on Alberto’s stabbing, Psycho Clown out, Zeuxis tries out for WWE, LU

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Akuma & Camorra b Bengala & Leono LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel b Oro Jr., Starman, Stigma LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther b Bobby Z, Vangellys, Virus LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Hechicero b Guerrero Maya Jr. [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Rey Bucanero, Sam Adonis, Terrible b Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
6) Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush DQ Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Titán LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 4 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
straight falls. Rush convined Tirantes to call Diamante Azul for a non-existent foul. Azul demanded a singles match next week.

I saw Hechicero/Maya. It was good. I’ll watch the rest later. (Well, some of it.) It sounds better than usual.

Lucha Underground 3×5 is called “The Prince and the Monster”. That’s unavoidably obvious. Matches announced

  • Texano [0] versus Cage [1] in the Best of 5 for an Ultimate Opportunity
  • Ivelisse vs Mariposa (we also meet Ivelisse’s new boyfriend)
  • Matanza Cueto vs [Dial of Doom winner] for the Lucha Underground Championship – Dario intro.

Killshot also gets “chilling news” and the Rabbit Tribe debuts. There’s about four matches left from the first weekend of tapings which could be added as a fourth match, but I suspect they’re just sticking to these three tonight.

The Dario intro reveals who is getting the spot. They also give the match away on Twitter. LU would really like you to watch this show this week. Maybe they’re making it more obvious due to the ratings slide? Maybe they’re just really excited about the match? Maybe it’s just random.

The Lucha Underground panel at the New York Comic Con mentioned a while a back is this Sunday at 5pm CT. This one will also be streamed live on the NYCC’s Twitch channel.

Today’s the 10th Anniversary of Antonio Pena’s death.

This week’s MLW Radio had a detailed recap of on the attack to Alberto Sunday. I summarized it here. As always, it’s best to listen to it yourself, about 26 minutes in.

The longer version of this story explains a few things that were unclear before, but there are things in the story that don’t quite add up to me. It’s explained Alberto didn’t contact AAA until the next morning because he lost his phone, but the report both has Alberto never getting that far away from his car (and phone?), and Alberto’s mentioned as wanting to charter a plane to Monterrey to make the show (but still couldn’t contact AAA?) Alberto is able to fight off and disarm a knife wielding maniac with his superior fighting skills, which is super hero stuff right there, but then maniac somehow just gets back in his car and leaves without anyone stopping him. There’s no details about attack or the car that hit Alberto, and there’s no news stories about this outside of the wrestling media that I can find. I know local newspapers are not in great shape, but Alberto is a celebrity who just got stabbed, an article about it would sell a few papers.

There could be great answers to all these questions, maybe things which just get confused in the trauma of the moment, and I’m not actually interested in playing CSI. Getting stabbed is not a good experience and I feel terrible for questioning the story of a person who got stabbed. The issue is, I had the feeling before that there’s parts of the story which aren’t being told and what I heard didn’t shake that feeling. (Somewhere in San Antonio, there should be a police report to clear this up – but one hasn’t been found. That’s concerning.)

At any rate, despite getting stabbed so hard that he could see his muscle come out of his arm, Alberto is planning to work his dates in the UK this weekend.

Zeuxis was among the participants in the recent WWE tryout. They’d apparently been aware of her for a while. She’s unlikely to be in trouble with CMLL if she let them know ahead of time (and she wasn’t booked on any CMLL shows this week, so that’s a positive sign.) WWE’s expected to run a women’s tournament similar to the recent CWC, and Zeuxis would be the best pick from Mexico (and maybe Puerto Rico) for something like that.

Psycho Clown says he suffered second degree burns from being put thru a table on fire at Heroes Inmortales, but is more hurt by Monster & Murder betraying him. He thought they would be a trio together until they all got old. The burns were so bad that Psycho Clown has to stay out of the ring for three weeks. AAA actually specifically notes he’s off the shows in Irapuato and Juarez this week, but, really, every spot show for months is main evented with some combination of Psycho Clown and Pagano (and Pentagon Jr. if he’s not in the US), including cards announced even after he was hurt. I have no real idea who replaces him; maybe Parka, but sometimes he’s headlining other AAA shows the same day.

Toscano is also out of action after surgery on 09/30. He doesn’t specify what was operated on. There’s no estimate of when he’ll be back, but he says it’ll be a long time.

Australian Suicide gives Daga credit for being the better man at Heroes Inmortales.

An Arena Mexico documentary, A Dos De Tres Caidas, airs Saturday on Canal 22 in Mexico at 10:30pm. The channel has a internet feed that’s region blocked. One of the directors of the film is Gala Lutteroth, daughter of Salvador Lutteroth. She notes the company her family owns was very open to working to with her.

Aerostar will debut in New Jersey on 11/12 for JAPW.

Mil Mascaras and Nosawa agreed to their IWA title match in Japan on 11/28. Mil was honored by Japan’s ambassador to Mexico, who said Mascara might be the most well known Mexican in Japan.

Kcidis draws the heroes of Heroes Inmortales.


IWRG (SUN) 10/09/2016 Arena Naucalpan
1) Máscara De Ángel vs Sombra Metálica
2) Demetrio & Hip Hop Man vs Black Dragón & Dragón Fly and Demonio Infernal & Skanda
3) Black Terry, Bobby Lee, Pantera vs El Hijo del Diablo, Eterno, Tyson La Bestia
4) Negro Navarro, Relámpago, Trauma I vs Devil Rocker, Machine Rocker, Soul Rocker
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Silver King, Trauma I vs Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible, Mr. Electro

A show! Definitely a show. Not even doing Trauma I/Canis Lupus this week. No Wednesday shows & no Sunday show the week after because Boom’s running instead.

CMLL (TUE) 10/11/2016 Arena México
1) Flyer & Leono vs Akuma & Camorra
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Oro Jr., Robin vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Nitro
3) Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther vs Disturbio, Okumura, Virus
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Rey Cometa vs Pólvora, Sagrado, Vangellys
5) Atlantis, Johnny Idol, Mistico vs Dragón Rojo Jr., La Máscara, Terrible
6) Diamante Azul vs Rush

Diamante Azul’s had a lot of singles match this year because he was briefly in Liga Elite (pushed as hard as Rey Escorpion), but this is his first ever singles match against Rush.  They’ve been mentioned as friends in the past. Azul’s gotten the worst of this feud, which means he’s incredibly likely to beat Rush here.

CMLL (TUE) 10/11/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Reycko vs Linterna & Sádico
2) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
3) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Luciferno, Misterioso Jr., Olímpico
4) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy vs Mr. Niebla, Pierroth, Último Guerrero
5) Negro Casas & Shocker © vs Valiente & Volador Jr. [CMLL TAG]
12th defense

If Casas & Shocker get the win here, they just have to beat the Mistico & Valiente combo to handle all three possible combination of the Sky Team. Dorada is on two straight cards days. He’s gotten farewell moments in Tijuana and Monterrey recently. This is either the last or next to week for him in Mexico if his estimate was accurate, and so these might be farwell appearances as well.

MDA (SUN) 10/16/2016 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Extreme Boy & the Tiger (Tamaulipas) vs Lince & Tormento
2) Última Sombra vs Gemelo Muerte [super libre]
3) Epydemius & Ninja Jr. vs Hijo de LA Park & Tekilita
4) Delta vs Galactar [bull terrier]
5) Heddi Karaoui, Intocable, Octagón vs Antifaz, Caifan, Fuerza Guerrera
6) LA Park, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Stuka I vs Jerry Estrada, Máscara Sagrada, Rush

Another busy MDS card, with some weird teams. I think they’re building to a Delta/Galactar mask match, but who knows if it’ll happen after the way they got on the last one.

Stuka/Estrada is a feud dating back to the 90s. Back when I had time to go back thru the early 2000s Torreon results a couple months ago, I noticed someone would always bring back that feud a few times a year. That was long after the big match, too.

great match roundup, week of 2016-09-03

La Mascara’s high mark

I spent ten minutes trying to figure where I left off, and I think I’m out of order now. Hope this is easier to figure out for you. I did get around to updating the great/excellent match list for the year.


rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero for the CMLL World Trios Championship CMLL VOD: 2016-09-03 2016-09-02
great Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas vs Atlantis, Carístico, Máscara Dorada CMLL VOD: 2016-09-03 2016-09-02
great Dragón Lee vs La Máscara for the mask CMLL VOD: 2016-09-03 2016-09-02
great Dragón Lee vs La Máscara CMLL Puebla: 2016-09-05 2016-09-05
great Matanza Cueto © vs Son of Havoc [LU CHAMP] Lucha Underground: 2016-09-07 2016-03-19
great Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Pentagón Dark Lucha Underground: 2016-09-07 2016-03-19

Other matches


Alberto explains his side of the story, Ultimo Guerrero out cheats Rush, indie lineups

CMLL (SUN) 10/02/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Domingos Familares]
1) Linterna & Mr. Brisa b Fugaz & Johnny Dinamo
Rudos took 1/3
2) Évola & Exterminador b Sky Kid & Smaker
Rudos took 2/3.
3) Explosivo & Reycko b Relámpago & Thunder Boy
tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Maléfico b León Blanco, Furia Roja, Neutrón, Ráfaga, Frezzer, Espectrúm, Gallo, Magnum, Sádico, Mágico, Demonio Rojo [Copa Tequlia Tapatio]
Leon Blanco replaced Vaquero Junior. Gallo’s first match here since May. Malefico submitted Frezzer for the win.

Malefico & Frezzer are both in the main event this upcoming Sunday, so it’s probably the start of the story.

CMLL (MON) 10/03/2016 Arena Puebla [CMLL, Culticon, Notimex, Plantilla Deportiva]
1) El Malayo & King Jaguar b Meyer & Zaeta Roja LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
King Jaguar replaced Policeman.
2) Black Tiger, Flyer, Soberano Jr. b Espanto Jr., Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma b Bobby Z, Okumura, Skándalo LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Johnny Idol, Titán, Valiente DQ Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Sam Adonis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3. Adonis fouled Idol.
5) Ephesto, Felino, Mephisto b Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Felino replaced Super Crazy, who has not appeared in either CMLL or Elite since the split. Felino hit Terrible with the toilet lid to set up the pin.
6) Último Guerrero b Rush LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 3 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
UG took 1/3, sneaking in a foul in the third.

I haven’t seen this yet. Culticon says the main event was good but never great, and felt short. Super Crazy seems to be around – he was RT-ing Tajiri stuff last night – but he didn’t make this trip. Crazy is also listed on Friday’s CMLL card, but he’s no sure bet to be on there either. His situation seems like Rey Escorpion’s: CMLL is the much better bet to stick around, but he’s probably going to be used in a much better position in Elite. Maybe the big news from last night’s show is someone reported the names of the new card girls.

Yesterday evening, Alberto el Patron explained he missed Heroes Inmortales because a knife wielding assailant attacked him in a parking lot. Alberto said, in statements in Spanish and English, he was eating a meal before going to the airport when he was attacked. Alberto posted photos of his wounds, which look ugly, but says he was not seriously hurt and plans on making his appearances this weekend in England. Alberto explained it was filing the police report which caused him to miss AAA’s show. Alberto apologized for missing the show and said he’d make it up soon. AAA, in a reversal from Sunday, is backing up Alberto’s statement and wrote a message of support and praise.

AAA’s message was posted shortly after Alberto’s, and Alberto’s messages on Twitter were sent as replies to AAA. It strongly suggests both sides had talked privately prior and coordinated their statements. They’re fine.

Getting attacked by a person with a knife is a pretty terrible thing to happen; luckily Alberto doesn’t seem badly physically or emotionally damaged. There is a nagging suspicion – not just here, but in many places – there’s more to this story than what we’re being told. Among other things, it’s strange in 2016 that it took a full day for Alberto to say anything. I think the reality is the story doesn’t matter as much as having one at all, and Alberto’s now going to be continued to be booked by all the same promoters just as if nothing happened. It’s pretty unfortunate position to be in to get attacked by a guy with a knife and have people being skeptical about your story, but I don’t think that disbelief will alter his career. Alberto will be back in AAA on 11/20, if not sooner, and will be working all his other dates.

Today’s CMLL preview hypes the heavyweight battle of Marco & Kraneo in the main event. I’m sure that’ll happen, but the angle last week was Rush & Pierroth cheating Diamante Azul, so that’s probably going to be the thing the match is focused on. I wonder if the people who write the previews spend a lot of time watching CMLL, or if they’re just as bored with things as the rest of us. Titan rounds out the match on the tecnico side.

Maximo, Angel de Oro, Johnny Idol take on Sam Adonis, Terrible and Rey Bucanero in the semimain. The match of the night will probably be the Guerrero Maya versus Hechicero lightning match. The Panther Family face Virus, Vangelys and Bobby Z in a tercera that’ll probably overachieve. Starman, Oro Jr. and Stigma face Arkangel, Raziel and Cancerbero in a segunda which will do the opposite of overachieve. Leono & Bengala versus Akmua & (sigh) Camorra are the opener you should do your best to avoid.

Culticon has a deeper look at the show. It will air at 7:30pm on & YouTube. I think I’m waiting until I get thru everything else to watch this show, but Hechicero & Guerrero Maya is hard to resist.

LuchaWorld has the latest News Update and this week’s Poster-Mania.

There’s a Lucha Underground panel at the New York Comic Con this Sunday, at 4pm local. It’ll also be streamed live on their Twitch channel.

Lucha 2000 #843 has an Antonio Pena remembrance right night to Rey Fenix on the cover.

Estrellas de la Lucha Libre #102 has Maximo and Marco looking for a new partner.

Fuego en el Ring talks to Rayman about his father reaching 40 years of wrestling.

CMLL recaps Dragon Lee’s trip to ROH: 2-0! US wrestling is easy.


ELITE (FRI) 10/07/2016 Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estado de México
1) Keira & Lady Maravilla vs Muñeca De Plata & Rossy Moreno
2) León Dorado Jr. & Mr. Leo vs Eterno & Fresero Jr.
3) Ciclón Ramírez Jr. & Zumbi vs Herodes Jr. & Samoano
4) El Bandido, Golden Magic, Último Ninja vs Argos, Hijo De Dos Caras, Karonte Jr.
5) Black Tauro (ex-AAA), Cibernético, Sharlie Rockstar vs Decnnis, Mr. Águila, Zumbido
6) Carístico & Xtreme Tiger vs LA Park & Rey Escorpión

No singles match this week, though everyone should be clammering to having matches with Black Tauro. Leon Dorado Jr. is a odd one – before last week’s Elite show, he only appeared on those short lived Lucha Attack shows (where he got a pin on Mr. Electro, so he’s not just a random rookie.)

CMLL (MON) 10/10/2016 Arena Puebla
1) Arkalis & París vs El Malayo & Fuerza Chicana
2) Millenium & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs King Jaguar & Policeman
3) Estrellita & Lluvia vs Amapola & Tiffany
4) Stigma, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Skándalo
5) Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy, Valiente vs Kráneo, Ripper, Sam Adonis
6) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Felino, Mephisto

Mascara Dorada! I remember that man. He’s around for at least one more week. Idol & Adonis have a rematch in the segunda.

AULL (SAT) 10/15/2016 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Príncipe Metálica & Rey Celestial vs Ironía & Rey Inmortal
2) Sanely & Silueta vs Chica Tormenta & La Magnifica
3) Dante, Euro, Filder vs Arez, Belial, Impulso
4) Ángel Del Amor & Yakuza vs Emperador Azteca & Multifacetico and Sádico & Yoruba [AULL TAG]
5) Dr. Cerebro vs Ángel o Demonio
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Extreme Tiger vs Caifan & Silver King

Being hyped as “Klandestino” and some new concept (though it looks like the usual UWE shows here without being called UWE.)

Can you name the current AULL Tag Team champions? How would you even find that information without hoping it’s updated on the luchawiki? It’s not on AULL’s site or their Facebook, and it’s not listed on their poster. My theory is if the promotion itself does not have a list of their champions somewhere easily found, they’re of no importance. (The champions appear to be Amor & Yakuza.)

AULL appears to have a TV show lately, or at least a YouTube channel posting it as a TV channel.

PROLLM (SUN) 10/16/2016 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México
1) Kaito & Notherdam vs Black Marvel & Mala Fama
2) Genio Rojo, Karazu, Lobo Escarlata, Orbit 2000 vs Bato Loco, Chicago Rush, Corrosivo, Diamond
3) Crisis, Iracundo, Silver Kain vs Demonio Baltazar, Macho IV, Macho V
4) Judas el Traidor vs Virus
5) Aramis vs Golden Cat, Dinamic King, Black Out, Haziel, Rocky Santana, Mr. Potro, Yakuza, Sepulturero, Herejía, Gallo Tapado Jr., Golden, Forastero, Juana La Loca, Gargola Extreme[cage, hair, mask]
Coacalco, Tlalnepantla, and Renegados in the match
6) Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Decnnis, Terrible, Veneno
7) Magnífico vs Tony Rivera [hair]

This is a road to the 19th Anniversary show, but looks like a pretty big show for the weekly Coacalco promotion. Video from these shows has lately been showing up on this YouTube channel, so maybe you want to ask them very nicely to put up more of this show.